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01:48 <@notlarry> Dagmar,you up?
01:49 <@Evilpig> nope
01:50 <@notlarry> Probably playing wow
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07:57 <@I-MOD> Evilpig, how did the window mechanism replacement go?
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08:22 <@Evilpig> I-MOD: still waiting on my repair manual to finish downloading
08:22 <@I-MOD> wow
08:22 <@I-MOD> impressive
08:22 <@Evilpig> making sure it is something I can do myself without some funny tool before I buy the part
08:22 <@Evilpig> 90.1% complete
08:23 <@I-MOD> replacing the window motor and regulator assembly on my '90 civic was pretty easy, but i don't know about fords
08:23 <@Evilpig> no motor in mine
08:23 <@Evilpig> when I looked at it then regulator is in the hollow part of the door but I didn't see a way to open up that part of the door
08:24 <@I-MOD> for me, it was remove 3 screws, pop the door off, remove 3 bolts from the motor and detach the window from the regulator, remove the regulator/motor assembly, replace everything in the reverse order
08:24 <@I-MOD> Evilpig, there generally won't be a way to remove the metal paneling
08:24 <@Evilpig> I hope it's that easy
08:25 <@Evilpig> well the metal paneling is in the way
08:25 <@I-MOD> there should be some holes in the paneling toward the bottom
08:25 <@I-MOD> you have to slide it out there
08:25 <@Evilpig> there were two small entry ports in there and didn't look very accessible
08:25 <@I-MOD> at least, that's how mine was
08:25 <@I-MOD> i'd have to look at the door structure
08:26 <@I-MOD> mine didn't look accessible, either :D
08:26 <@Evilpig> hopefully this manual will be done soon and it will be just as easy as you say
08:26 <@Evilpig> bbiab.  moving the last server for the morning
08:27 <@I-MOD> have fun
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15:43 <@cordless> o.O
15:43 < Gawdzuki> cordy is sky in here?
15:43 <@cordless> no
15:44 <@cordless> he isn't on atm
15:44 <@cordless> I think Corydon76-dig goes to the consortium..
15:44 < Gawdzuki> where is it exactly?
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16:53 <@Evilpig> I hate packing.  I really hate packing someone else's shit AND moving it to another state for them
16:58 < fall0ut> I really really hate packing anything
16:59 < coil> fudge packing
17:02 <@Evilpig> I need to find my ghost CD and swap the 200GB drive in this for the 1TB drive I put in hers before I take it back
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22:15 <@sdodson> damnit, some asshat felt like it'd be a good idea to disable the scrolling features of the synaptic touchpads
22:15 <@sdodson> kill kill kill
22:18 <@tzanger> heh I am constantly disabling that "feature"
22:18 <@tzanger> actually I'm in a bit of a shit mood
22:19 <@tzanger> had a fight with the wife today and got so frustrated with her that I slammed the lid of my notebook down, I was gonna go tot he library or something to get the fuc out of the house
22:19 <@tzanger> ended up causing the hdd to panic
22:19 <@sdodson> synclient VertEdgeScroll=1 HorizEdgeScroll=1
22:19 <@sdodson> ^^^ FIXT
22:19 <@tzanger> it squeaked like I'd stepped on a mouse
22:19 <@tzanger> so now I'm backing up what I can of it and gotta buy another tomorrow
22:20 <@sdodson> tzanger: nice
22:20 <@tzanger> so far the errors detected were in shit that's older than the last backup which is fine
22:20 <@tzanger> sdodson: not really, no
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22:21 <@sdodson> I had a co-worker come to me "hey... know how to fix broken disks?" "Call IBM" "lets say... maybe it's something i caused by slamming my hand on my desk in rage" "Call IBM"
22:21 <@tzanger> heh
22:22 <@sdodson> "Call IBM,  also call CDW and order a solid state drive"
22:22 <@tzanger> I priced SSDs for replacement, too expensive
22:23 <@tzanger> I can get a 7200rpm 160GB hdd for CAD$50
22:23 <@tzanger> good enough for me
22:23 <@tzanger> actually 5400 same price (my current one is 5400) I'm wondering if there is appreciable battery life differences
22:25 <@sdodson> I don't need more than 40gb or so
22:26 <@sdodson> I have build farms and other crap to handle anything data intensive
22:26 <@tzanger> even a 40GB SSD is pricey
22:27 <@sdodson> orly?
22:28 <@sdodson> $170 for 64gb
22:28 <@tzanger> yeah that's over CAD$200 I bet
22:29 <@tzanger> yep 190
22:29 <@tzanger> plus tax and shipping
22:29 <@tzanger> depending on where you buy it
22:29 <@sdodson> http://www.50micron.com/?p=508 I question his definition of "Earthquake proof"
22:29 <@tzanger> the entire laptop was $600, not worth putting 1/3 that into a new drive
22:30 <@tzanger> the hdd was rated 320 (yes 320)G over 2ms when running
22:30 <@tzanger> I must have slammed it pretty good
22:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think SSD is much more secure
22:31 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: why?
22:31 <@sdodson> 320G over 2ms means shit to me.
22:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: If Scott M. can't get data off one after its been wiped I'd bet just about nobody can
22:31 <@sdodson> Stupid engineering asshats can't they just say "can survive a fall from the coffe table" or something?
22:32 <@m0j0-j0j0> he literally wrote the book on the subject.
22:32 <@sdodson> My impression of the talks that Scott has given is that SSDs are less predictable since the block operations you send to it don't map directly to locations on chip.
22:33 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: and every manufacture uses different table structures
22:34 <@sdodson> It's strange that we're taking the same source material and coming to dramaticaly different conclusions.
22:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> I talked to him a lot about it at PN, but I didn't see most of his talk
22:34 <@sdodson> My impression is that "oh hay, erase this block plz kthnx" is mostly useless with SSD
22:36 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: only until you write N blocks, where N is the number of free blocks
22:36 <@Corydon76-dig> To erase a block, you have to effectively shorten the life of the entire drive
22:37 <@sdodson> oh leet, these new boxes are both nehalemsn
22:40 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: That's assumed
22:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: the impression I got was that if you just write a pattern over the entire thing it's extremely difficult to restore the original data (unlike normal drivers which give a hint at the previous state by the "one-ness" based on 5v logic
22:40 <@sdodson> writing to the disk shortens the life
22:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> brb .. dogs are barkin
22:41 <@sdodson> kill em
22:43 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: tempting
22:44 <@sdodson> contract it out to a chinese restaraunt
22:44 <@sdodson> yay 4 onboard nics standard
22:45 <@sdodson> <3 HP
22:45 <@m0j0-j0j0> actually, these dogs are considered special in china so I doubt they would use them in a dish
22:45 <@sdodson> Apparently you've not had General Tso's chicken at Five Star
22:46 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm guessing that is why a breed that originated in Africa has "Chinese" in its name.
22:48 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: anything interesting come of themeeting?
22:48 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: well.. I seem to have Vic cheesed off at me
22:50 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I found that it's not easy eating ice-cream with a nose ring.
22:50 <@sdodson> duh
22:50 <@sdodson> why's vic mad?
22:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> well.. remember when Al said he was the point man on finding a place for CC?
22:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> 3 months ago
22:52 <@m0j0-j0j0> and that he would orchestrate the group of us willing to help
22:52 <@sdodson> uhh sure
22:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> followed by not getting in touch with anyone, not posting the stuff he said he would and not communicating to anyone I can find about what is going on with the location?
22:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> SO
22:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> since time is ticking I figured I would try to get that process going
22:53 <@sdodson> http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x9iuak hey i know that road
22:54 <@sdodson> That's Reedy Creek towards Ulmstead
22:54 <@sdodson> I used to ride my bike along that.
22:54 <@sdodson> That guy is lucky he didn't get run over by the shithead porsche drivers that live along that road.
22:54 <@m0j0-j0j0> and since I'm not CC Staff, Vic got mad at Nick for not telling me to go away..
22:55 <@sdodson> Seeing sas neither vic nor nick are that seems odd.
22:55 <@m0j0-j0j0> and then I stepped in and told him that I'm not Nicks do-boy and that I did it on my own
22:55 <@sdodson> Actually there's no clear indication of who is and who isn't
22:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> well.. I'm obviously not
22:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> the truth of the matter is that I was just trying to take care of something that I thought wasn't getting taken care of
22:57 <@sdodson> Who is?
22:57 <@sdodson> then don't worry about it
22:57 <@m0j0-j0j0> well
22:57 <@sdodson> just make sure that what you do is clear, open, and documented so no one else does the same work.
22:57 <@sdodson> Oh and be prepared to have Vic tell you how much more awesome anything he's ever done is than what you're doing.
22:57 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: that goes with all events
22:58 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: and from what I can tell... everything else
22:58 <@sdodson> "Cool we had 200 people" "In NOLA we had 80 billion"
23:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: you can read the post if you want, but basically I'm just trying to get someone to put a date forward and the criteria for a location so that people can start working together to find a place that doesn't have the parking issues, noise issues, and food/drink issues that we had last year
23:01 <@sdodson> what food drink issues did we have?
23:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> and if we can avoid the big "local sports weekend fail" that would be a plus
23:02 <@sdodson> That's unpredictable.
23:02 <@sdodson> Especially if we try to keep it in March.
23:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: "you can't have food/drinks here" "you're group can't have food not from the hotel" etc
23:03 <@sdodson> I don't remember anything of that sort.
23:03 <@sdodson> Was that in the con room or in the bar area?
23:03 <@m0j0-j0j0> guess you didn't try to eat cookies in the lobby
23:04 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I think the noise and parking turned into a bigger issue than the cookies
23:04 <@sdodson> My impression is that unless we organize and actually have an appreciable number of people checking into the hotel we're going to have problems with the hotel.
23:04 <@sdodson> Booking 15 rooms or so won't cut it.
23:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> I would have booked a room just to save me the drive, but I have to come home for the dogs anyway
23:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> I guess I could book one and just not ever use it
23:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> *shrug*
23:07 <@sdodson> That'd be ridiculous
23:07 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: You have any stats on attendees vs rooms booked at phreaknic?
23:07 <@m0j0-j0j0> yeah, but we do need to do something to get our room count higher
23:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think part of the problem is that we have so many locals
23:08 < coil> ill go
23:09 <@sdodson> Zip and I, Vic I think are the only locals that get rooms.
23:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> note: I just got smacked down an hour ago for talking about con stuff, and to prove that I'm a complete idiot.. here I go again
23:10 <@sdodson> I realized that months ago.
23:11 <@sdodson> The rest of #se2600 maybe not. :)
23:11 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I think we really need to get in touch with the folks we know from DC, VA, SC, and GA to see if we can get them to fly/drive in
23:11 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I'm sure they've known for some time as well.
23:12 <@sdodson> We have plenty of people from those locations coming.
23:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: and she was too busy talking to somebody who filled the roll of a boyfriend to make me my coffee
23:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: and they dont get rooms?
23:13 <@sdodson> they do
23:13 <@sdodson> it's all the locals
23:13 < coil> hi what is phreaknic
23:13 <@sdodson> coil: stfu
23:15 < coil> ead diaf
23:15 <@m0j0-j0j0> if we seriously booked 15 rooms they really didnt (at least not at our hotel) OR we just really didn't have enough people from those locations... I don't know anything about the stats, and it seemed that we had a good number of out of towners... Maybe they all stayed in one room together.
23:16 <@m0j0-j0j0> when I went to Hope I stayed in Jersey, but that was because Hotel Penn was full.
23:16 <@m0j0-j0j0> and Orbitz hates me
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23:20 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: which hope?
23:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: other than that the meeting was a lot of talking about cars, bromine, plasma windows, and Hualon being an elitist who feels that the best way to get good sound quality is to buy the band and keep them as pets so they can play the song when you want to hear it.
23:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: the last one
23:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: for all the others I've always had no trouble getting a room
23:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> oh, and ways to use techshop resources to make playing role playing games look more like a real version of 3d battle chess
23:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> ^ that was all Nick
23:25 <@sdodson> you confuse me
23:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> sorry :/
23:25 <@sdodson> I wonder if these machines are uefi
23:28 <@m0j0-j0j0> well, while you're checking that out I'm headed to bed so I can get up early enough to go to the gym before work
23:28 <@m0j0-j0j0> have a good night
23:28 <@sdodson> huzzah i fixed it
23:28 <@sdodson> lol work
23:28 <@sdodson> i don't have to work until thursday
23:29 <@m0j0-j0j0> yeah, but I dont have to deal with my folks
23:29 <@sdodson> i hung ceiling fans today
23:29 <@m0j0-j0j0> thats not so bad
23:29 <@sdodson> it's a fucking pain in the ass, but i did get a leet fan.
23:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> I installed them in every room of my folks house in about a day
23:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think that was 6
23:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> only had to redo 1
23:33 <@m0j0-j0j0> I need to take a vacation down to see all the changes they've made to the ranch at some point, but they always turn me into a ranch hand for the week I'm down visiting so I have to wait until I'm well rested to go on that vacation
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23:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> I was going to go down to the keys in July for a drive trip, but my mom and sisters and nieces all wanted to join me so I backed out
23:34 < dasunt> Scary.
23:35 <@sdodson> dasunt: WHAT IS UP MY BROTHA?!
23:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> I can't take a chance on a synchronizing event taking place
23:35 < dasunt> sdodson: Just got home.
23:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> beaver queen pageant
23:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> http://outside.in/Durham_NC/tags/beaver%20queen%20pageant
23:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> night
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