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00:07  * dasunt has the hiccups.
00:18 < dasunt> Regin Smiður is an awesome song.
00:23 <@Catonic> tzanger: 95 chevy caprice isnt light
00:23 <@Catonic> acord is 3200 lbs
00:23 <@Catonic> sentra was 2500 lbs
00:23 <@Catonic> rabbit is 1850
00:23 < coil> my malibu is like 2400lbs
00:24 < coil> 2200
00:24 < coil> some shit
00:25 <@Catonic> tzanger: yeah, it adds up.. Makes you think about what you're asking when you put your foot down
00:27  * dasunt dies.
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02:06 <@Catonic> hi dc0de
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04:21 < coil> dc0de i bought the eee
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06:26 <@sdodson> coil: leet!
07:21 < scribble1> can you set listserv 15.0 to reply to admin confirmed users to let them know they've been confirmed?
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08:06 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:10 <@rhia> annnddd, xkcd does it again
08:11 <@Dolemite> rofl
08:41 <@TheLightcosine> does what again?
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08:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> sup home-friez!?
08:54 <@m0j0-j0j0> or not
08:55 <@sdodson> rhia: whhat whhat whay?
08:55 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
08:56 <@sdodson> rhia: lololol
09:16 < xGeek> sdodson: I'm going to look at a house up in Millbrook today
09:16 < xGeek> sdodson: The back yard is f'ing amazing!
09:17 < xGeek> it
09:17 <+eryc> pics or shens
09:23 < xGeek> ermm hang on
09:23 < xGeek> mysql just went down
09:23 < xGeek> god damn it
09:24 < xGeek> ok nevermind... let me grab the link
09:25 < xGeek> http://www.fmrealty.com/site/property/listing.asp?mlsID=1659624&rNum=R16927&markettime=1%2F1%2F1993&subdiv=northclift&whichpage=1
09:25 < xGeek> Cheap, good location, beautiful back yard, work shop begging for an air conditioner and a server rack.
09:25 < xGeek> I want it.
09:27 <@nachoguy> is that a workshop or a playhouse?
09:28 < xGeek> It's 10x12.
09:28 < xGeek> Big enough for me.
09:28 < xGeek> THere is also a storage shed sitting beside it.
09:28 < xGeek> It looks small because the back yard is so big. Has a fire pit. Has a picnic table built into the huge deck.
09:28 <@nachoguy> cool
09:29 < xGeek> I want that shit. Realtor taking us up there at 5:30.
09:29 < xGeek> It's so cheap. I'm worried someone is going to buy it.
09:29 < xGeek> I'd feel rich with a mortgage payment that small.
09:29 < xGeek> And I have an interview at a game development studio on Tuesday for an administrator position.
09:29 < xGeek> Life is goot!
09:31 <@nachoguy> nice
09:42 < xGeek> FUUUUUUU--- I have an interview at the NCDOT too.
09:42 < xGeek> Sounds like a horrible job.
09:42 < xGeek> Not only are you supporting end users. You're supporting state workers.
09:43 <@nachoguy> ah, but if you like the pay, you're set
09:44 <@nachoguy> pay is usually only so-so, but benefits are awesome
09:44 <@nachoguy> and it's almost impossible to get fired from a state job
09:44 < xGeek> I see.
09:45 <@nachoguy> plus, they have a pension (not some 401K, but an actual pension)
09:46 < xGeek> Applying for jobs on Friday is nice because you get all of your calls on Monday and your wife doesn't bitch the rest of the week because you're sitting around doing nothing.
09:46 < xGeek> "But honey I have an interview wednesday thursday and friday!"
09:46 <@nachoguy> you get calls back?  must be nice
09:46 < xGeek> I've had a few interviews.
09:47 < xGeek> I completely bombed an interview with a CCNA dude.
09:47 < xGeek> It was embarassing to the point of me wanting to walk out.
09:47 < xGeek> Turned down an iPhone support job because it pays less than my unemployment.
09:47 < xGeek> There are jobs to be had here if push comes to shove.
09:49 < xGeek> The CCNA guy made me angry though because he was asking me all these IP telephone and VoIP questions. Neither of which are even mentioned on my resume.
09:49 < xGeek> I was just a fill spot I think.
09:51 < xGeek> Obama pushed my unemployment through to next year though which is sweet and gave me more money. My wife calls it "Todd's Great Vacation of 2009".
09:51 <@nachoguy> nice
09:51 < xGeek> I'd trade her for a nice dual quad CPU and MB most days. :/
09:51 <@Shadow404> done!
09:52 < xGeek> You have no idea what you're getting yourself into sir.
09:52  * Shadow404 points to ring on finger
09:52 < xGeek> :)
09:52 <@nachoguy> around here, there aren't too many openings, and the headhunters are scrambling like crazy to get anyone placed so they can get commission. so any place that a job can be posted, it will be posted, by 5-6 different people/firms
09:53 < xGeek> Craigslist is like that here.
09:53 < xGeek> Companies out of Denver posting shit.
09:53 <@nachoguy> hey, how's Married life treating you shadow?
09:53 < xGeek> THose guys are bottom feeders though.
09:53 <@Shadow404> meh, i got 2 calls last week for the same job from different agencies, so i concur with nachoguy
09:53 <@Shadow404> nachoguy: not bad, no real change
09:53 <@nachoguy> CL is actually much cleaner, but very little of anything.  careerbuilder, et all are spamhouses
09:53 <@nachoguy> indeed.com is actually really cool
09:54 < xGeek> You need experience w/ OS X, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, RHEL 5, and HPUX. Must know at least 2 programming language. Pay: $10/hr
09:54 <@nachoguy> they suck up postings from everywhere, and then you can put filters; so I filter out the big offenders
09:55 < xGeek> Seems like my mac admin jobs are really helping me get call backs though. I'm surprised by the number of companies running apple harware now.
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09:56 < xGeek> I don't own apple hardware and unless they cut their prices I never will. Seems like my career is spontaneously heading in that direction though. :/
09:59 <@Corydon76-dig> xGeek: Mac Mini is still too expensive for you?
10:00 <@nachoguy> well, no one wants vista
10:00 <@Corydon76-dig> One thing is for sure... Apple won't let you buy crap hardware for their OS
10:00 <@TheLightcosine> bah, vista works great if you set it up right
10:01 <@nachoguy> or here, lots of people are going apple, because entourage works for sExchange, and linux doesn't always have a client you can use (when imap and mapi are disabled)
10:01 <@nachoguy> still don't want it
10:01 < xGeek> xGeek: mac mini isn't enough hardware for me
10:01 < xGeek> now I'm talking to myself
10:03 <@Corydon76-dig> xGeek: or a refurb mac mini for under $500
10:03 <@Corydon76-dig> xGeek: now you're just being picky
10:04 < xGeek> The only thing I would use a mac mini for would be a HTPC, but I wouldn't even do that since I can get a bare bones msi nettop for $105 w/ the dual core atom.
10:04 <@Corydon76-dig> My Mac Mini is powering my mythtv frontend
10:05 < xGeek> Or a neuros with hdmi out and OSS for $299
10:06 <@Corydon76-dig> including a good video card and CD/DVD burner?
10:06 < xGeek> Why do I need either of those on my HTPC? All I use it for is decoding and streaming to my TV.
10:07 < xGeek> Even my single core 1.6ghz atom eee 1000h does 1920x1080 on my TV using VGA.
10:08 < xGeek> The only thing I could see going for a better GPU would be hardware decoding.
10:09 <@nachoguy> $105?  I thought they were 220 ish
10:09 < xGeek> $105 open box on newegg right now.
10:09 < xGeek> Brand new they're only like $140ish I think
10:09 < xGeek> That's bare bones though
10:09 < xGeek> no hdd, ram, or dvd
10:11 < xGeek> my buddy has one with a couple of TB drives in software raid0 that acts as his home dev server.. they're nice little machines
10:11 < xGeek> @ $105 a cluster is tempting
10:11 <@nachoguy> ah
10:11 <@nachoguy> neat
10:12 <@nachoguy> sheevaplugs might be better for a dev server
10:12 < xGeek> If the sata controller supported replicators it would be f'ing sweet
10:13 < xGeek> but alas.. :P
10:14 < xGeek> speaking of which (I may have already asked this)... Anyone in the Raleigh area know where I can pick up an old trasher PI or PII or even an old IBM thin client that I could turn into a m0n0wall box?
10:14 < xGeek> I have a dual core 1.6 desktop that I feel is a bit over kill
10:14 < xGeek> I can get one of those thin clients on ebay for $30 plus shipping, but free would be even better.
10:16 < xGeek> I should post on nc2600
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10:30 <@Shadow404> Word to ya'lls motherboard!
10:32 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: While I think that apple might use a higher grade of hardware, I think that they might trim cost on the Q/A because of it because when you get bricked apple hardware it's completely bricked... and then you get in this vicious cycle of sending it back to them and them saying they fixed everything only to have it brick again a couple of weeks later
10:32 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: quit installing Linux on it
10:32 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: that was with OS/X
10:32 < xGeek> linux doesn't break hardware :/
10:33 <@m0j0-j0j0> I installed Linux on the G3
10:34 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: only time I've ever seen that happen was when I was monkeying with settings that were not accessible to the normal user
10:34 <@Corydon76-dig> in other words, my own damn fault
10:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> xGeek: the head "geek squad" guy at my local Best Buy told me that the mouse buttons on my eeepc stopped working becuase I wasn't using the linux that came on it
10:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: my company had to deal with it for about a year.. then they said "no more apple hardware" for a couple of years and now they are letting people request it again
10:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: I have to admit that this time around we've had far less issues
10:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> xGeek: that's what I get for trying to deal with people in Garner.
10:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> "the left mouse button isn't supported on that linux"
10:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> what?!
10:38 <@polerin> lol
10:40 < scribbles> lmao
10:42 < xGeek> ol
10:43 < xGeek> that's what you get for a pay cap of $12/hr
10:45 < scribbles> xGeek: you work for bby?
10:49 < xGeek> no[e
10:49 < xGeek> never have
10:49 < xGeek> thought about it until I saw the pay cap
10:49 < xGeek> would have been a nice college job, but then I had a kid
10:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm glad that I'm from a time when the fastest way to be considered a good IT asset was to grumble under your breath about how stupid everyone was.
10:52 < scribbles> haha
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10:56  * m0j0-j0j0 rolls his eyes, sighs, types 6 letters and says "You're computer is 'fixed'.  Please re-read the carefully prepared memo I emailed you about not looking up personal information on company assets.  You do know how to check your email.... don't you?"
10:57 <@m0j0-j0j0> these days you have to be all warm and socially accepting of people making the same braindead mistakes over and over again
10:59 <@Shadow404> haha, disaster adverted, the inventory manager placed a box of parts in front of the A/C duct in our test lab just about 45 minutes ago and alarms just went off on the equipment about elevated temperature in the noc so i ran over the to the lab thinking the a/c system halted, only to find 4 boxes covering the vent almost completely, sounds like we need to have a better practices talk with the inventory person
11:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> "I understand that you want the little triangle next to the word 'Subject' because you think it looks best there, but that is how the computer indicates what field is used to put things in order and you need it here next to the word 'Date' or you'll have to call me again to come over here because you're 'only getting new emails who's subject starts with z' again."
11:01 <@Shadow404> lawl
11:01 <@Shadow404> m0j0-j0j0: thats why i dont do end-user support no more
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Double negative?
11:02 <@Shadow404> aside from parental units, and thats cringe worthy even though its remote
11:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> Shadow404: that's internal to the company.  As a software company we don't really have that much in the way of desktop support as they figure people should be able to ask around and get help like that
11:03 <@Shadow404> but you are the end user support after that story if y9ou havent realized
11:04 <@m0j0-j0j0> Shadow404: we do some of that.. but we do have a dept that really is end user support... but that's way worse
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11:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> my group is supported by enginedev and networking.. we do the application dev/tool dev and end up supporting AdOps, Sales, Marketing, and the Support group as well as the field developers and their sites
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11:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> so.. everyone does end user support for someone.. but the real end users get supported by that group... and I don't think I could deal with the shit they have to deal with
11:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> we tried to pay another company so that we could out source that level of support but even a company that deal with that for a living thought out end users had too many issues
11:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm not sure what they says about our end users
11:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> or maybe about our sites
11:13 <@m0j0-j0j0> but neither of those are under my control so...
11:17 <@m0j0-j0j0> the field developers don't seem to have an issue with the apps my group makes and we don't seem to spend so much time fixing stupid "I set my resolution higher than my monitor can support" type issues so I would say that my group gets at least a C+
11:28 <@Shadow404> uploaded another folder of pics from my best man: shadow404.jalbum.net/wedgallery/adampics/
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12:00 <@sdodson> xGeek: you divorced?
12:00 < dc0de> sdodson, you looking for a new spouse?
12:01 <@sdodson> dc0de: Why you single too?
12:01 < dc0de> nope.
12:01 < dc0de> what's going on?
12:01 <@sdodson> Nothing much.
12:02 < dc0de> I'm flying from LAX to SEA
12:02 < dc0de> gonna have to spend 3 days in the "banjo country" 2 hrs east of  Seattle.
12:05 <@sdodson> dc0de: where's that?
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12:05 < dc0de> quincy washington
12:05 < dc0de> the butt hole of no where.
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12:13 < dc0de> sup Curbob
12:15 < Curbob> echo :)
12:16 < dc0de> I'm flying from LAX to SEA
12:16 < Curbob> whats SEA?
12:17 < Curbob> or where i guess
12:17 < dc0de> seattle
12:18 < Curbob> oh..
12:18 <@sdodson> seatac
12:18 < dc0de> astronomy
12:21 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: /window balance
12:22 <@Dagmar> bleh
12:24 <@Shadow404> nothing can balance me, certaintly not window balance
12:27 < dc0de> morning Dagmar, Shadow404
12:28 <@Shadow404> mawning sir
12:28 <@Shadow404> wathcing firefly on hulu atm
12:31 < xGeek> sdodson: nope
12:31 < xGeek> sdodson: one day! maybe 16 years from now or something...
12:32 < xGeek> sdodson: don't have the heart to leave the boy
12:36 <@sdodson> xGeek: As someone whose parents "stuck together for the kids" I'd urge you not to stick together for the kids.
12:36 < xGeek> haha
12:36 < xGeek> well, every case is different
12:37 < xGeek> and frankly I dont want my son growing up with my wife his main role model
12:37 < xGeek> number one: he'd be a pussy
12:37 <@sdodson> my parents still hate each other and I'm now playing peace maker to a paid of 50 year olds.
12:37 <@sdodson> Who often act like 12 year olds.
12:37 <@sdodson> xGeek: if he grows up with you he'll march in pride parades
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12:38 < xGeek> You think I'm gay?
12:38 <@sdodson> Nah.
12:38 <@sdodson> It's IRC, part of signing in is that you agree to call people gay.
12:38 < xGeek> About that time I put my finger in your butt... I explained that we were drunk and you looked a little bit like Rosie O'Donald.
12:39 < xGeek> It will never happen again.
12:39 < xGeek> And I', not gay.
12:39 <@sdodson> oh look i've got work to do, later
12:39 < xGeek> haha
12:40 < xGeek> I'll call you later so we can further discuss.
12:40 < xGeek> You don't have to answer I'll leave you a nice sexy voicemail.
12:41 < dc0de> butt plug?
12:41  * Dolemite signs up for the nice sexy voicemails
12:43 < dc0de> Hey Dolemite, how are the little ones?
12:43 <@Dolemite> The new addition is starting to only get up once a night, so that's a relief
12:43 <@Dolemite> 2.0 is so jazzed about being a big brother
12:43 < dc0de> cool...
12:43 < xGeek> Mine is two and still gets up once a night every once in a while.
12:43 < dc0de> sounds like the fun is beginning...
12:44 < dc0de> I miss them when they're little....
12:44 <@Dolemite> Of course, to keep him from feeling left out from all the attention, I've taken him to the zoo 4 times in the past 3 weeks
12:44 < dc0de> my youngest is 6 now
12:44 < dc0de> and growing up too fast.
12:44 <@Dolemite> one time was just me and him, another was me, him, Evilpig and EvilDucky
12:45 < dc0de> Dolemite, are you sure you want Evilpig influencing your children?
12:45 <@nachoguy> EvilDucky?
12:45 <@nachoguy> is that the piggie's other half?
12:46 < dc0de> any relation to the dc404 duckie?
12:46 <@Dolemite> EvilDucky == EvilPig's girlfriend
12:47 < dc0de> ahh, good, cuz the dc404 duckie is a dude.
12:47 <@nachoguy> cool
12:47 <@Dolemite> Unless dc404 duckie looks like a 14 year old girl, they're not the same
12:48 < dc0de> wow... not even in the wildest acid trip would that happen.
12:49 <@Dolemite> And no, Evilducky isn't 14 years old, she just looks like it.  She makes Mirage look fat.
12:49 < Curbob> no no no!
12:50 < dc0de> evilduckie == waif?
12:50 <@sdodson> yay, RHEL 2.1 is EOL'd
12:51 <@Dolemite> she is rather waifish
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12:52 <@nachoguy> sdodson, when will RHEL 3 get EOL'd?  we're running a box that absolutly cannot be upgraded?
12:52 <@nachoguy> it will eventually just get replaced with a newer box with newer software
12:52 <@nachoguy> bah, ignore the second question mark
12:53 <@sdodson> nachoguy: http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/errata/
12:54 <@nachoguy> nice
12:58 <@nachoguy> just over a year to go
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13:05 < aestetix_> yo
13:08 <@Dolemite> So.  How 'bout that Sascha Baron Cohen teabagging of Eminem at the MTV Movie Awards?
13:08  * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite
13:09 -!- aestetix was kicked from #se2600 by Dolemite [teabag]
13:14 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: It wasn't quite a teabagging, but he wasn't joking.  Check YouTube for videos.  :)
13:15 <@Dolemite> Cohen's nuts in Eminem's face.  I call that a teabagging.
13:15 <@Dagmar> It appears Eminem was not happy with the non-consensual male crotch inna face
13:15 <@Dagmar> Yeah it's definitely close enough
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13:27 < dc0de> damn, my flight just got delayed two hours
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13:32 < Curbob> lets make up a treasure hunt for dc0de to do at LAX for the next 2 hours.. you must find:
13:39 < dc0de> a knife, a bomb, a shotgun, a pistol, and a sword?
13:41 <@I-MOD> a flight attendant's uniform, preferably your size
13:41  * Shadow404 watches as men in black suits and earplugs snatch dcode from the airport and throw him into the back of an unmarked black suv
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13:43 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, there was no throwing dc0de, he kicked the world and it spun a little extra, throwing the van at him
13:44 <@I-MOD> mostly, because dc0de is really just chuck norris in disguise
13:46 <@I-MOD> he, of course, had no problem stopping the van or the earth when they tried to attack him, shortly afterward
13:49 < Curbob> still trying to get this picture outta my head..   a flight attendant's uniform, preferably your size
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14:24 <@Dagmar> Oof.
14:24 <@Dagmar> Gonna have to stop by Wally World on the way home
14:25 <@sdodson> msblabs.org = dead
14:26 <@Dagmar> Oof!  Plesk default page
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15:29 <@sdodson> better for projected presentations, black text on white or white text on black?
15:32 <@Dagmar> Probably white text on black
15:33 <@sdodson> hmm, conflicting advice
15:33 <@sdodson> advise
15:33 <@dc0de> well, time to pack up for boarding... catch you all on the flip side.
15:33 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: depends on whether the room is darkened or not
15:33 <@rhia> yep
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15:33 <@rhia> and true black/white is not the best contrast anyway
15:34 <@Corydon76-dig> White text pops if the room is dark, otherwise you want dark text against a bright screen
15:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think that even if it is only partly darkened white text is best
15:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> but that's not factual.. that's just me
15:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> rhia: yellow on black?
15:35 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: off-white, actually
15:35 <@Corydon76-dig> kinda gray
15:35 <@Corydon76-dig> In vt100 parlance, white with bright disabled
15:35 <@rhia> think opposites on the color wheel
15:35 <@Dagmar> Lit text will give better contrast in questionable lighting conditions
15:35 <@Jagobah> white text on black looks fine on a projector
15:36 <@Jagobah> and what corydon said
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15:36 <@Corydon76-dig> What's interesting about brightness in vt100 is that bright brown is yellow
15:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: so grey like your teeth as opposed to yellow fie's?
15:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> ;)
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15:37 <@rhia> a dark dark gray w/a hint of purple (call it 'midnight/black') background and text in a offwhite with a yellowish undertone, etc
15:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, think canary yellow, not gold
15:38 <@Corydon76-dig> faded, not bright
15:38 <@m0j0-j0j0> paste flesh tome
15:38 <@m0j0-j0j0> tone
15:38 <@rhia> or reverse - light background, dark text
15:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I'm sure you can find someone with pasty flesh tone to check against.
15:39 <@rhia> actually, the redder tones tend to blend into black - makes it hard for some people to see well
15:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> cyan and black
15:39 <@nachoguy> I find the light text on dark background to be easier to read
15:39 <@rhia> so, not so much flesh, think ... diploma parchment off white
15:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> that's what I always used on my c64
15:40 <@nachoguy> I go with either a very light grey or bright green on black
15:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> I do green on black these days to prove how old school I am
15:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> but I think studies would show that the text should be the darker for the two to make it easier
15:41 <@Shadow404> heh, i do green on 60% transparent
15:42 <@rhia> question was for projected so the real determinant is lighting level & glare in the room
15:42 <@Shadow404> http://www.shadow404.com/143.sizes.@leetirssi.png?size1=L
15:43 < aestetix_> hahah is that Shadow404 and leet in the same url?
15:43 <@Shadow404> lawl
15:47 <+fall0ut> http://shitbox.idge.net/~tim/leeter-irssi.jpg
15:47 <+fall0ut> lulz
15:47 <@Shadow404> meh, thats boaring and well, its windows
15:47 <@Shadow404> *boring
15:48 < aestetix_> who is tim
15:48 <@Shadow404> ah, tivo installed
15:51 <+fall0ut> TEEEVO
15:51 <+fall0ut> which is broken
15:51 <+fall0ut> thanks comcast
15:55 <@Shadow404> what did comcast do this time?
15:56 <@Dagmar> Did your Comcast francise go all-digital alread?
15:56 <@Dagmar> y?
15:56 <+fall0ut> they messed up my cablecards
15:56 <@Dagmar> Umm... I think that would fall under "prevention of theft" probably
15:56 <+fall0ut> uh
15:56 <+fall0ut> I pay for cable and pay for my cablecards
15:56 <+fall0ut> they just broke the provisioning on them
15:57 <@Dagmar> They actually support CableCard where you are?
15:57 <+fall0ut> yea
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15:57 <@Dagmar> Wait, nevermind.  It doesn't much matter since there's no white-market CableCard drivers for hte OSes I use
15:57 <+fall0ut> in nashville
15:57 <+fall0ut> I think they're mandated to support cablecard or another open access medium everywhere
15:58 <@Dagmar> Yeah they are, but that doesn't prevent them from ignoring the FCC and waiting for lawyers to sort it out later
15:59 <@Dagmar> Rahter like they're required to provide firewire outputs on digital boxes, but that's not stopped them from shipping them only to people who specifically ask for them, and from enabling 5C on bloody everything except PBS
15:59 <+fall0ut> it's probably not them enabling encryption on everything
16:00 <+fall0ut> that's probably required from the content side
16:00 <+fall0ut> because all of the content companies are complete douches
16:00 <@Dagmar> In mythtv-users we've seen francises enabling it on everything but PBS, no joke.
16:00 <+fall0ut> yea
16:00 <@Dagmar> ...even though anything like local stations that broadcast unencrypted they're required to also *not* encrypt
16:00 <@Dagmar> ...since 5C isn't really encryption, they've got a nice loophole there.
16:01 <@Dagmar> If they transition to only digital cable here and don't give me a box with component output, I will make a stink the likes of which they've not seen since the last time they did something I strongly disagreed with
16:02 <+fall0ut> haha
16:02 <@Dagmar> If I'm going to have to spend $250 to get an HD-PVR so my Myth box doesn't become useless, I'm going to make them suffer until it works
16:02 <@Dagmar> ...particularly since I'd be losing a tuner
16:16 <@Dagmar> Anyone want to *really* be irresponsible with their money?
16:16 <@Dagmar> http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/1200108661.html
16:17 < fie> summercon in atl this saturday http://summercon.org
16:17 <@Dagmar> Ah crap
16:17 <@Dagmar> It's too late for me to plan on going
16:20 < fie> it's on saturday though
16:20 < fie> WE"RE GOING TO CANDY MOUNTAIN CHARLIE
16:20 <@Dagmar> yes, and my car is old
16:20 < fie> Dagmar, atl or bust
16:20 <@Dagmar> For a drive to Atlanta I ge tthe thing checked out
16:21 < fie> Dagmar, get someone else to go
16:21 <@Dagmar> ...plus I've already got plans to do a lot more work on the scooter this weekend
16:21 <@Dagmar> I just FINALLY got my hands on a cheap sewing machine
16:21  * nachoguy facepalms
16:21 <@nachoguy> so, if you were a business, would you route all of your outbound calls through skype?
16:26 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
16:26 <@Dagmar> Polk County FL arrested *45* people for child porno?
16:26 <@Dagmar> What.  The.  Fuck.
16:26 <@Dagmar> I would've thought 45 people country-wide would be a lot
16:29 <@Shadow404> fl people are lonely fuckers
16:29 <@Dagmar> The cop that was on CNN was saying the pictures were of girls aged 6 to 9.
16:29 <@Dagmar> Unless he was just makin' shit up, these weren't a bunch of guys who thought they were looking at a 22 year old dressed up to look young
16:29 <@Dagmar> That's 45 genuinely sick mofos
16:30 <@Dagmar> Something is in the water there
16:32 <@Dagmar> Well hell tell the guys at SC I wish i could be there but things have been too busy lately
16:38 <@sdodson> ohhai
16:38 <@sdodson> fie: do less drugs
16:44 <@m0j0-j0j0> hmm.. any Raleigh folk going to summercon?
16:47 <@sdodson> when is it?
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16:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> from what fie is saying it's this coming Sat
16:54 <@sdodson> too busy
16:54 <@sdodson> SELinux fest
16:55 <@polerin> hypericon is this weekend too I think
16:57 <@sdodson> what's that about?
16:57 <@sdodson> (don't worry, whatever you answer I'll make a gay joke about)
16:58 <@m0j0-j0j0> http://www.hypericon.info/
16:58 <@Dagmar> Yeah the site says the 6th
16:59 <@m0j0-j0j0> hypericon looks like it would be the funnest, but it's too far away :(
17:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> I need to go to something that has lots of people dressed up at least once
17:01 <@m0j0-j0j0> SELinux is closer, but I'm not all "linux is the best thing ever" I'm more of the "linux... it's what I'm used to at this point so why change now" kinda guy
17:01 <@Dagmar> You could try MTAC but you have to register as a pedophile first I think
17:01 <@Dagmar> They _really_ need to set soms minimums there
17:02 <@Dagmar> Seeing 9 year olds walking around in a cut up kerchief with a headband and some kanji written on it is not amusing
17:04 <@m0j0-j0j0> isn't that the kanji symbol for "jail bait?"
17:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> wo!
17:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: pix of some guy getting spanked by a furry really wasn't the event I had in mind
17:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> I was looking for something more like ... people dressed up as their favorite NES game character or something
17:07 <@m0j0-j0j0> that way I could smack down that whorish home-wrecker princess peaches.
17:08 <@Dagmar> You want DragonC0n then
17:09 <@m0j0-j0j0> make her cry until she confesses to being the shameless hussy she is and begs forgiveness from Pauline for coming between her and Mario
17:10 <@Dagmar> Yep.  Definitely Dragoncon
17:16 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm just saying... if it wasn't for Peaches; Mario would have taken care of Donkey Kong and his brother King Kong saving both Fay Wray and Pauline.  I'm sure it would have stopped Planet of the Apes from ever happening and Charlton Heston, Fay Wray, and Pauline could all stop saying "Take your stinking paws off me you damn dirty ape"
17:17 <@m0j0-j0j0> we all end up dead, enslaved, and potentially lobotomized because she didn't know when to stop toying with peoples affections.
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17:18 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: you could go and learn things
17:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: naw, I'm good ;)
17:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: actually... I figured I would look at all 3 of the options tonight and figure out which is the most compelling
17:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> and then weigh that against sitting at home and playing guitar all day
17:21 <@sdodson> guitar hero!
17:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> and by playing guitar... I mean looking at porn
17:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> no
17:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> j/k
17:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: you should get a fay-wray dress and have a big ape paw print around the middle
17:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> I could dress up like <insert anyone from the matrix name here>
17:27 <@m0j0-j0j0> those bitches stole my styleo
17:27 <@m0j0-j0j0> steelio
17:28 <@m0j0-j0j0> stealio stylio
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18:01 < aestetix_> astralsin yo
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18:42 <@sdodson> aestetix_: hi
18:44 <@sdodson> I don't speak ghetto trash. :(
18:56 <@Dagmar> Damn the latest Zero Punctuation is pure awesome
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19:22 <@sdodson> http://wimp.com/pointlessmachine/
19:27 <@Dagmar> Damn that site is awesome
19:27 <@Dagmar> http://www.wimp.com/motorcycleprank/
19:30 <@sdodson> Scooters annoy me, I don't know why. They're not really any worse than cyclists about restricting normal flows of traffic but for some reason I'm willing to tolerate cyclists but not scooters.
19:31 <@sdodson> That looks like a bit more than a scooter in that video though
19:31 < coil> oh
19:31 <@Dagmar> It's a 250CC
19:32 <@Dagmar> Shad topcase on the back
19:34 <@Dagmar> I *think* it's a Peace one but I can't be sure
19:34 <@Dagmar> It's definitely not Kymco or Sym
19:40 <@sdodson> com
19:40 <@sdodson> http://spot.livejournal.com/308370.html
19:49 <@sdodson> http://goodnightraleigh.com/uploaded_images/may_storm.jpg
19:51 < coil> omg rain
19:51 < coil> blog about it
19:54 <@sdodson> coil: no
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19:59 <@rhia> sdodson: cool pic
20:07 <+sung> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6FleYifCu4
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20:31 <@Dagmar> http://www.wimp.com/scaryinternet/ <-- WIN
20:37 <@Dagmar> I have some elderly relatives that might actually be able to keep up with that
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22:02 <@Dagmar> Holy SHIT
22:02 <@Dagmar> http://www.wimp.com/reservelosing/
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23:16 < dasunt> http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=441
23:20 <@sdodson> dasunt: this better be porn or i'm going to kill you
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23:22 < dasunt> It's close.
23:22 < dasunt> It shows what really matters for closeness in a relationship.
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23:31 <@sdodson> Dagmar: http://www.wimp.com/modernantiques/ most awesomest EVAR
23:43 <@Dagmar> Ooooo
23:43 <@Dagmar> Looks very promising
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