--- Log opened Wed May 27 00:00:01 2009 00:25 * Catonic headdesks 00:25 <@Catonic> lmfao 00:26 <@Catonic> "I'm prolly your daddy, I nutted in ya mammy" 00:26 < miniMerc> k 00:32 * Catonic rubs a nip 00:32 < miniMerc> bloody nips 00:33 <@Catonic> that's neoteric you're thinking of 00:33 <@Catonic> I'm less the racist asian 00:34 < miniMerc> i hope tim returns to the internet before the next phreaknic 00:34 < miniMerc> he's my only reliable ride 00:35 <@Catonic> orly 00:35 < miniMerc> yarly 00:35 <@Catonic> Where did we go to eat lunch? 00:35 < miniMerc> fuck if i know 00:36 < miniMerc> wait, who's we 00:36 < miniMerc> i know he went with the guv'na last phreaknic 00:36 <@Catonic> if you don't know, you weren't there, and you aren't who I thought you were. 00:36 < miniMerc> or claimed to 00:37 < miniMerc> you talking about the lunch after phreaknic? some horrible chinese place 00:37 < miniMerc> the soup was staring at me 00:37 <@CRasH180> Did it try to bite you? 00:37 < miniMerc> it prolly would had i elected to eat it 00:37 < miniMerc> i stuck with the dumpling things 00:37 < miniMerc> which were still pretty horrible 00:38 <@CRasH180> Why the hell are you going to call them pot stickers? 1st, there is no pot in them, and 2nd I have never been stuck by one 00:38 < miniMerc> Catonic: were you the big hippy at dim sum after phreaknic? 00:38 < miniMerc> pretending to enjoy the kim chee? 00:39 <@Catonic> no 00:39 < miniMerc> i thought kim chee was cabbage or something, timball ordered something and it came back as a soup with eyes and teeth 00:40 <@Catonic> I was making comments to my tablemates about the full-on mullet-bearing redneck the next table over. 00:40 < miniMerc> i was like, yeah, no 00:40 < miniMerc> Catonic: no mullet here, you were somewhere else 00:40 <@Catonic> wait... after PN was ... cracker barrl 00:40 < miniMerc> yeah i wish i woulda been at cracker barrel 00:40 < miniMerc> timball took us to subpar dim sum 00:41 <@Catonic> man... that's sick 00:41 <@Catonic> I want soup that stares at me. 00:41 <@Catonic> I want to be able to, after three nights of drinking, stare my food in the eye and say with conviction: "Better you than me, brother." 00:42 < miniMerc> not even i was that drunk 00:42 < miniMerc> i was at dim sum with tim and rattle 00:42 < miniMerc> and it was mostly disgusting 00:42 < miniMerc> i should have broken the mould and just asked for general tso's chicken 00:42 < miniMerc> but i tried to be generous 00:43 < miniMerc> i refused to eat the "kim chee" staring-at-me soup and tim expressed his disappointment 00:43 < miniMerc> "YOU'RE TOO WHITE" 00:43 < miniMerc> but i know all the other white people there were digusted too, cuz they barely finished everything 00:44 < miniMerc> they were just pretending to be multicultural 00:44 < miniMerc> fuck that 00:44 <@Catonic> one of these days, I'll go to hong kong and get drunk. 00:47 < miniMerc> no you wont 00:47 <@CRasH180> Why go all the way there to get drunk when you can do it right here? 00:47 < miniMerc> hi my name is jimmy karl black and im the indian of the group 00:47 < miniMerc> fuck that/~ 00:47 < miniMerc> oops 00:48 < miniMerc> concentration moooooon o/~ 00:48 < miniMerc> i listen to frank zappa, that makes me multicultural 00:49 < miniMerc> she was living in a single room, with three other individuals, one of them was male...and the other two? well, the other two were females... 00:50 < miniMerc> god only knows what they were up to in there 00:50 < miniMerc> and furthermore Susan, i wouldnt be surprised if all four of them habitually smoked marijuana cigarettes... 00:50 < miniMerc> REEFERS 00:51 <@Catonic> holy fuck 00:51 <@Catonic> what am i doing still at work... 00:51 < miniMerc> proving to everyone what they already knew? 00:52 < miniMerc> daddy he once told me, son you be hard workin man 00:52 <@Catonic> miniMerc: die in a fire smoking a fetid goat cock 00:52 < miniMerc> and momma she once told me, son, you do the best you can 00:52 < miniMerc> but then one day 00:52 < miniMerc> i met a man 00:52 < miniMerc> he came to me and say-i-aid 00:52 < miniMerc> hard work good.... 00:52 < miniMerc> and hard work fine... 00:52 < miniMerc> but first take care of head 00:53 <@CRasH180> then drink some wine 00:53 < miniMerc> 2 joints 00:53 <@Catonic> srsly, we have a friend who has never heard of or any sublime 00:54 < miniMerc> Catonic: sad 00:54 < miniMerc> Catonic: its your duty to expose them 00:54 < miniMerc> while cheefin' on a splif 00:54 <@Catonic> "Fuck dude, wish I could help you out, but I can't smoke that much weed this soon." 00:54 < miniMerc> heh 00:55 < miniMerc> now im listening to crazy trani 00:55 < miniMerc> CRAZY 00:55 < miniMerc> but thats how it goes... 00:55 < miniMerc> im goin off the rails like a crazy train 00:56 < miniMerc> *wwwhhaaaaaaooooowwwww* 00:56 < miniMerc> lets go 00:56 < miniMerc> ive listened to preachers 00:56 < miniMerc> ive listened to fools 00:56 < miniMerc> ive listened to dropouts... 00:56 < miniMerc> who make their own rules 00:56 < miniMerc> randy rhodes 00:56 < miniMerc> fuckin awesome 00:57 <@Catonic> I'm listening to Orgy, Blue Monday 00:57 < miniMerc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRbPWcLode0 <-- fuckin awesome 00:57 < miniMerc> crazy train live 00:57 < miniMerc> check it 00:58 -!- someninjamaster2 [n=someninj@75-149-100-253-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:09 < miniMerc> if 01:09 < miniMerc> i 01:09 < miniMerc> would 01:09 < miniMerc> could 01:09 < miniMerc> you 01:15 <+eryc> dig editdns.info txt # for a good time 01:21 -!- CRasH180 [n=crash180@pdpc/supporter/bronze/CRasH180] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:24 -!- CRasH180 [n=crash180@pdpc/supporter/bronze/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 01:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 01:42 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 53 nicks [30 ops, 0 halfops, 16 voices, 7 normal] 01:43 <@Evilpig> someninjamaster: you can call comcast and get them to change that generic comcastbusiness.net to something better. 01:53 < miniMerc> wh 01:53 < miniMerc> y 03:01 <@Catonic> PORN 03:02 <@Catonic> sup piggiue 03:10 < miniMerc> i just ate a whole pizza 03:10 < miniMerc> I AM FAT 03:13 <@Catonic> I want pizza. 03:22 <@TheLightcosine> the pizza is a lie! 03:26 < miniMerc> if the pizza is a lie, id like to know why im so bloated 03:27 <@Catonic> The pizza is a lie, but I did come in your mouth. 03:28 < miniMerc> the mangoo is a lie 03:29 <@Catonic> you can't have the mango 03:31 <+eryc> fatgs 03:36 < miniMerc> fat fags? 03:44 -!- someninjamaster2 [n=someninj@75-149-100-253-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 03:50 <@Evilpig> huh Catonic ? 04:27 <@Catonic> I realized you were working and I was still up 04:31 <@Evilpig> ahh 04:31 <@Evilpig> yeah working late kinda sucks 05:05 <@TheLightcosine> you get used to it 06:25 -!- Corydon76-dig [i=white@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:14 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: PING! 07:14 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you left the phones forwarded last night and I have no clue where to begin looking to undo that 07:27 -!- Corydon76-dig [i=blue@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has joined #se2600 07:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-dig] by ChanServ 07:48 < dasunt> In the east, swastikas are often associated with Hinduism and Buddhism. 07:48 < dasunt> And every so often, some toy or other item ends up being exported to the US with swastikas on it. 07:49 < dasunt> Which, of course, ends up raising a big stink from the ignorant fucks who don't bother learning anything about other cultures. 07:49 < dasunt> It's more than a tad ironic that a knee-jerk reaction that appeals to peoples' cultural fears is the way to oppose the ideals of antisemitism. 07:51 <@I-MOD> so just start labeling your antisemitism with a check mark 07:51 <@I-MOD> it'll take them a while to catch on 08:22 <@tzanger> you should mark them with a swastika :-) 08:36 -!- Drag0n` [n=dragon@12.116.138.30] has joined #se2600 08:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Drag0n`] by ChanServ 08:46 <+rattleXx> Via stratfor: South Korea promised to respond quickly if North Korea attempts a naval provocation near the Yellow Sea border, Yonhap reported May 27, citing a statement by an unnamed defense official. The official said North Korea has recently increased naval exercises off its southwestern coast, and another source said South Korea has deployed a destroyer closer to the border to increase surveillance efforts. 08:46 <+rattleXx> Shit.. 08:47 <+rattleXx> They are breaking the 1953 armistice. 08:48 <@oddball> Yeah... things are starting to get "interesting" in that part of the world. 08:50 <@rhia> sigh, i Told Kim not to go crazy for my birthday - guess the translator dropped the negative 08:51 <+rattleXx> Odds are that NKorea is going to try to send out a naval shipment. They have been sending messages out stating that any efforts to board it's vessels will be met with a military attack. 08:53 <@CRasH180> Time to break down the wall? ala east/west Germany? 08:54 <+fie> 20 years later 08:55 <+rattleXx> The cultures of South and North Korea have grown so far apart they don't understand each other's dialect of Korean anymore. 08:56 <+rattleXx> At least the bulk of the people.. The DPRK elites speak normal Korean I believe. 08:56 <@oddball> I knew the cultures were significantly different, I was unaware that the language had grown that far apart. 08:56 * CRasH180 did not know that either 08:57 <@CRasH180> Wonder if they consider one the "Snooty elitest" dialect and the other the "Slum crummy" dialect? 08:58 <+rattleXx> I don't know the details.. But the short of it is that when people escape North Korea, they have severe trouble communicating with South Koreans. 09:00 <+rattleXx> The DPRK has a twitter account.. Heh.. http://twitter.com/kcna_dprk 09:00 <@CRasH180> heh 09:02 <+rattleXx> Read a few of those links.. Great stuff. 09:08 <@Shadow404> heh 09:08 <@Shadow404> they should make a sub site of howstuffworks and call it "howstuffbreaks" 09:12 <@Evilpig> http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-05-20/1242822354290.jpg SFW 09:12 <@polerin> heh 09:13 <@TheLightcosine> haha 09:14 <@CRasH180> lol 09:14 <@polerin> the wall between east/west germany and the DMZ between North and south korea are ... err.. totally different 09:14 <@polerin> and it's going to SUCK if that fight gets started 09:15 <@CRasH180> They have to first want to tear down the wall to come to together. Not tear down the wall to kill each other 09:17 -!- Dolemite [n=scott@99-2-141-173.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 09:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 09:17 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:17 <@polerin> I'm not sure how much the average north korean does want to have that war... but my understanding is that the military IS rather devoted to the party 09:18 <+rattleXx> The world economy is not prepared to deal with a new Korean conflict.. Seoul would pretty much be destroyed in the opening volley. 09:19 <@Evilpig> haha Dolemite missed my link 09:19 <@Dolemite> rofl, spoiler alert! 09:19 <@Dolemite> that's a good one 09:27 -!- nachoguy [i=boster@ivan.dreamhost.com] has joined #se2600 09:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o nachoguy] by ChanServ 09:27 <@nachoguy> mr0nin! 09:28 <@nachoguy> I return, alive! 09:28 <@Evilpig> now just turn around and go back where you came from 09:29 <@nachoguy> heh, no! 09:30 <@nachoguy> I just came through ATL; don't want to do that again, at least not for a long time 09:31 <+fall0ut> I was down in ATL 2 weeks ago 09:31 <+fall0ut> I had a blast 09:31 <+fall0ut> but downtown sucks 09:32 <@nachoguy> I just had a layover in the airport 09:32 <@nachoguy> I'm sure there are redeming qualities to the town, there are enough cool people living there, but the people who manage the airport suck 09:33 <+fall0ut> im not a big fan of atl 09:46 <+fie> atl can diaf 09:47 <@Corydon76-dig> or in a drought 09:48 <@oddball> droughts tend to lead to fires 09:48 <@rhia> stayed in MS or LA lately? ATL at least has some good points 09:51 <@oddball> Ugh... So, I sent an office wide email telling people to avoid printing to the color printers unles necesarry. Got an email back asking if this person could continue using the color printer for b&w prints to "free up" the b&w printer. 10:05 <@I-MOD> solution: unplug the color printers 10:06 <@rhia> and get a deluge of "um this printer won't work" hits 10:06 <@I-MOD> also, take away the power and network cords 10:06 <@oddball> Yeah... I'm going to wait about a week, then probably do just that. 10:07 <@I-MOD> are they just really expensive to use or broken or what? 10:08 <@oddball> They're a lot more expensive to use than the big multi-functions we have scattered around. 10:09 <@I-MOD> figures 10:09 <@oddball> Basically, we bought them because sometimes people do need to print color, but it's turned into most people using them for everything. 10:10 <@oddball> So, we're going through an average of one black toner cartridge a week for the 2 color printers that aren't in someone's office. 10:12 <@I-MOD> heh, you could always just leave the empty cartridges in it :) 10:13 <@oddball> well, they're ordering the cartridges through the office manager, not me. Oh, and it's not coming out of the IT budget. 10:13 <@I-MOD> lol 10:14 <@I-MOD> i don't see how that's your problem, then 10:14 <@oddball> Ummm... they're going to wear out the printer, which does? 10:15 <@oddball> That and my boss (dir. of operations) told me to deal with it. 10:17 <@oddball> Oh, and I'm the one that has to do the physical swap of the drum, imager, and waste toner cartridge (which I've already had to do for all of those and the printers are less than a year old) 10:40 <@I-MOD> wow 10:47 <@oddball> Yeah 10:54 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: Create a queue for the printer, disallow printing directly, and deactivate the queue 10:55 <@Corydon76-dig> or rather, pause the queue 10:55 <@Corydon76-dig> When someone asks, you can go look at the queue and determine if the job really needed to be in color 10:56 <@Corydon76-dig> or introduce a really long pause before it prints. If they think the printer takes 10 minutes to print, where their b&w printers print in 10 seconds, they'll stop using it unless it's really necessary 11:01 <@oddball> ooo... that's a good idea, and everyone is already using the server's print share instead of connecting directly. 11:19 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 11:30 <@tzanger> what's wrong with using the colour printer for B&W prints? does it not have a separate black toner? 11:31 <@oddball> The color printers we bought aren't designed to handle nearly the load that the B&W printers have have are. 11:32 <@oddball> So, using the B&W printer is cheaper than printing B&W out of the color ones. 11:34 <@tzanger> oddball: aha 11:34 <@tzanger> we had a decent xerox printer that ended up being slightly cheaper per page than the canon b&w 11:35 <@oddball> Hell, before Isuggested buying these Brother color printers, they had a bunch of color ink jets. 11:36 <@oddball> sorry, obviously the ones we have now are laser printers. 11:37 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: btw, Consumer Depot has a bunch of Brother color lasers 11:38 <@oddball> Their good printers. These are just being used a hell of a lot more than they were intended/designed to. 11:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Holy shit... http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-thermite-ice/ 12:11 * Corydon76-dig pokes polerin 12:20 * Catonic takes a shit on channel 12:21 * Catonic notes the above video link is now loading slowly 12:21 <@Feltenix> anyone know why 2 machine on the same network, where one can and the other can't, connect to the same svn repo? 12:22 * Catonic checks the calendar: "Solar flares." 12:22 <@Feltenix> ah 12:22 <@Feltenix> must be 12:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Feltenix: on the machine that can't, ping the broadcast address and try again 12:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Feltenix: if it still can't, check iptables rules 12:28 <@Catonic> I had a rare one in one network 12:28 <@Catonic> b/w between machines flat out sucked 12:28 <@Catonic> on a hub. 12:28 <@Catonic> determined: the new hub was dropping packets over 60 something bytes. 12:29 <@Catonic> Also, the cable modem was arp-poisoning the local machines and forcing inter-machine traffic to go up to the CMTS and back. 12:34 <@Dagmar> eh? 12:34 <+coil> SATA Revision 3.0 specification completed and released 12:34 <@Dagmar> It shouldn't do that 12:35 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Are the cablemodems where you are using private IP addresses or something? 12:35 <@Dagmar> ...or are they just not filtering private network ARP from other people's home LANs? 12:38 -!- Falun [i=Richard@c-24-126-196-243.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:55 -!- jb7od [n=itsME@adsl-065-080-187-241.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:58 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 12:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 13:26 <@Catonic> oh hai, im in ur intarnetz stealin' ur loginz 13:26 <@Catonic> Dagmar: every one of those machines had a public IP 13:41 <@Dagmar> Oof 13:41 <@Dagmar> I know the fix, provided you have a border firewall 13:41 <@Dagmar> THis page http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/ 13:41 <@Dagmar> There's a patch there to make an interface hidden to ARP 13:42 <@Dagmar> It'll put a stop to the border firewall seeing ARP replies for what should be internal traffic on the external interface and getting confused 13:43 <@Dagmar> Well, there's other things you'll do but the main thing is to keep the damn firewall from answering ARP queries on the external interface for the internal interface's IP address 13:43 <@Dagmar> Dirty networks are a pain in the ass 14:01 <@polerin> http://tinycatpants.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/really-really/ 14:06 <@rhia> polerin: classy 14:08 <@rhia> heheh, just ... begs the question: have they ever even heard of proof in any form, including and especially as in "proof reader" 14:10 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: These are the same folks who came up with a teabagging party, and you question if they've ever bothered with a proofreader? 14:16 <@polerin> hehe 14:29 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: just more continually amazed that they remember how to breathe 14:29 <@rhia> breathing being so complicated and all - 14:29 <@Dagmar> Joy. More race baiting 14:41 <@rhia> oh, i'm _suurre_ they meant it as in an Uncle SAM way, not at _all_ in an Uncle Tom way 14:42 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: Actually, I'd believe that... but that they were completely insensitive to the understanding that it would be seen that way 14:42 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure they were more trying to invoke the rich, disconnected uncle idiom more than they were the uncle tom idiom 14:42 <@Corydon76-dig> It's their continual diatribe against political correctness that they don't want to take responsibility for their own words 14:42 <@Dagmar> ...especially since their main thrust lately is to try to paint Obama as financially irresponsible. 14:43 <@Dagmar> Theyr'e trying REALLY hard to pin the economic collapse they created on Obama. 14:43 <@Dagmar> They're just not very good at it. 14:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Sure, take responsibility if you're poor, but not rich, take responsibility if you commit blue collar crime, but not white collar crime 14:44 <@polerin> Dagmar: wouldn't you NOT want to invoke the rich uncle thing, as that usually implies someone who's self made? 14:44 <@rhia> k, then either the lawmakers are so uneducated as to not have any clue as to Uncle Tom, or they're extremely careless, or they're phrasing things in a pointedly gray way to make their point and still claim plausible deniablity 14:44 <@Dagmar> Not when you're trying to appeal to the downtrodden mindset of the proles 14:44 <@Corydon76-dig> They're trying to portray him as more out-of-touch than they are 14:44 <@polerin> course. 14:45 <@Corydon76-dig> which is a pretty hard sell 14:45 <@Dagmar> rhia: the key is that if you s/Obama/Bush/ and it makes a glaring lack of sense, THEN it would be racists 14:45 <@polerin> Dagmar: look it's not race bating. It's going "damn, you guys really have no sense of context or sensitivity do you." 14:45 <@polerin> Actually it does make a glaring lack of sense 14:45 <@Dagmar> There's a degree to which you must avoid interpreting something as racist merely because of the presence of a black man. 14:45 <@polerin> the Uncle just doesn't fit 14:45 <@polerin> I never ever ever saw anyone call bush uncle bush 14:45 <@Dagmar> polerin: Mainly, they're just dicks. 14:46 <@rhia> Dagmar: did they ever use the rich uncle reference for Uncle Bush while he drove us into this debt? 14:46 <@Dagmar> They're trying to imply Obama doesn't know what he's doing with the money. 14:46 <@polerin> and their being dicks by doing things that are inflamitory on purpose. Ie. saying things that are sure to trigger race related issues. 14:46 <@Dagmar> rhia: Of course not. They were in denial there was a problem then, remmeber? 14:46 <@Dagmar> For months and months and months we hear on the news them saying "THIS R NOT A DEPRESHUN!" "IT R NOT OFFISHUL!" 14:46 <@polerin> and don't tell me politician from the south doesn't know the meaning of calling a black guy uncle 14:46 <@Corydon76-dig> That's because Bush never was the generous uncle, but more the stupid cousin 14:47 <@polerin> Lets S/Obama/Clinton 14:47 <@Dagmar> I still think you're putting the cart before the horse. 14:47 <@polerin> does it make sense there? No not really 14:47 <@Dagmar> It makes the same lack of sense if you put a white man's name there. 14:47 <@Dagmar> Let me put this another way 14:47 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: Uncle Clinton makes sense if all you think about is the womanizing 14:47 <@polerin> Dagmar: no, they said stupid shit without thinking, or they said stupid shit on purpose. Two things, either one using extremely loaded words. 14:47 <@Dagmar> Let's say I have an uncle who is black. 14:47 <@polerin> ew 14:48 <@Dagmar> ...and I say he's Uncle Steve. 14:48 <@Dagmar> Does that make me a racist? 14:48 <@polerin> Dagmar: that's NOT the situation here 14:48 <@Dagmar> Yes it is. 14:48 <@polerin> obama is NOT their uncle 14:48 <@polerin> so it's not the situation 14:48 <@polerin> end of story. 14:48 <@Dagmar> You're making the deduction that because "uncle" is being used that it must necessarilly be racism. 14:48 <@Dagmar> ...that no other possible explanation is required or needed. 14:48 <@polerin> he's not even a close family friend who they might call uncle 14:48 <@Dagmar> THAT is race-baiting. 14:49 <@rhia> um, they're educated lawmakers from the deep south, they KNOW the Uncle Tom reference 14:49 <@polerin> I didn't say it IS being used in that way 14:49 <@rhia> sigh - convenient - it can't be thinly veiled racism, racism is SOooo over and anyone who calls them on it just sees boogymen everywhere -sigh 14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> I think we all agree they fucked up. Could we let it go, instead of debating the nuances of how they fucked up? 14:49 <@Dagmar> ...and you're not even trying to see things in any other light. 14:49 <@Dagmar> At all. 14:49 <@rhia> sometimes the thinnest robes of acceptance really AREN'T there and the emperor really IS nekkid 14:49 <@Dagmar> Until people stop this shit, it's NEVER going away. 14:49 <@polerin> Dagmar: bullshit 14:49 <@polerin> show me one time in which ignoring racism has fixed the problem? 14:49 <@polerin> ONE time. 14:49 <@Dagmar> This from the person who refuses to belive race-baiting exists. 14:50 <@polerin> that people use their race to try and lure people into saying something? 14:50 <@Dagmar> Or that they use their race to declare someone meant something they didn't. 14:50 <@polerin> that Obama is asking to be called uncle because he's black? 14:50 <@polerin> that's not BAIT 14:50 <@Dagmar> Pay attention to what these fuckers are spinning to the press. 14:50 <@polerin> that's oversensitivity at the most 14:50 <@polerin> it's still. not. BAIT. 14:50 <@polerin> and 14:51 <@polerin> again, show me once in history that ignoring racism has caused it to go away 14:51 <@Dagmar> Let me ask you 14:51 <@polerin> No 14:51 <@rhia> when some idgit pitches a fit for not getting cheese fries and claims "its cuz i'm black" that's race baiting - this is NOT that 14:51 <@Dagmar> It this racist? 14:51 <@Dagmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrooge_McDuck 14:51 <@Dagmar> Look, it's "Uncle Scrooge" 14:51 <@polerin> You are the one who said that ignoring it makes it go away, prove your assertion 14:51 <@Dagmar> That's the imagery they're trying to invoke. 14:51 <@Dagmar> I said no such thing. 14:51 <@Dagmar> So you can fuck right off with that 14:51 <@polerin> you said that it will not go away untill you ignore it. 14:52 <@polerin> Show me once in history that racism has dissapeared because people ignored it 14:52 <@polerin> or even WHEN 14:52 <@Dagmar> Stop being so fucking simple minded that you're willing to accuse total strangers of being racists just because ther'es a black man involved. 14:52 <@polerin> Dagmar: no, prove your shit 14:52 <@polerin> becaus I can show you any number of instances where ignoring it only made it worse 14:52 <@polerin> s/becaus/because 14:52 <@Dagmar> Prove I said what you're claiming 14:52 <@Dagmar> I did not say ignoring racism makes it go away. 14:52 <@polerin> 13:53 <@Dagmar> Until people stop this shit, it's NEVER going away. 14:53 <@Dagmar> More dimwittery. 14:53 <@polerin> no, you're ignoring the fact that the word "uncle" in reference to a black man is a common way to call him an uncle tom 14:53 <@Dagmar> Quit going out of your way to declare things racist just because you can find a thin excuse to do so. 14:53 <@polerin> I didn't even SAY it was racist 14:53 <@Dagmar> It's fucking stupid and it eliminates every other possible interpretation once you do so. 14:53 <@polerin> nobody there did 14:53 <@polerin> if you look 14:54 <@polerin> the word racist never came into play 14:54 <@polerin> the fact YOU caught it means there is something there. 14:54 <@Dagmar> Ah so now every time anyone refers to a black man as "Uncle" in any way, it's automatically and unquestionably racist. 14:54 <@Dagmar> Way to go. 14:54 <@polerin> actually, I said no such thing 14:54 <@Dagmar> I "caught" it because you were going on about it 14:54 <@polerin> I didn't go on about anything 14:54 <@Dagmar> So go fuck yourself 14:55 <@polerin> wow you get antzy and agressive really quickly 14:55 <@rhia> sheesh, i'm the one who commented on it, as a humorous "oh, good gawds at the inanity" cheapshot way 14:55 <@Dagmar> So long as you want to try to twist my statements into things claiming I'm saying ignoring racism makes it go away, which is INSULTINGLY dimwitted interpretation, there's not a damn thing to be accomplished here. 14:55 <@polerin> YOU were the first one to mention racism 14:55 <@polerin> Dagmar: you're claiming that people shouldn't call things out as having racist overtones. 14:56 <@Dagmar> Again, no I'm not. 14:56 <@Dagmar> Welcome to the ignore list 14:56 <@polerin> yes you are. 14:56 <@Dagmar> Maybe you'll get over your victim complex someday 14:56 <@polerin> victim? 14:56 <@polerin> jeesus, yes I'm so victimized by racism 14:56 <@polerin> being all white and shit. 14:56 <@rhia> um, Dagmar you were the first to mention race 14:56 <@polerin> all these mean white supremicists teaching their kids that everyone who is white should die. 14:57 <@Dagmar> No. 14:57 <@Dagmar> I just knew what you two were on about. 14:58 <@polerin> Dagmar: if the implication isn't there, how did you know? 14:58 <@rhia> wll, like i said earlier: sometimes the thinnest robes of acceptance really AREN'T there and the emperor really IS nekkid 14:58 <@Dagmar> Look at the fucking URL. 14:58 <@Dagmar> Pull it up yourself. 14:58 <@Dagmar> I sure as hell wasn't the one who put the commentary below the image 14:58 <@Dagmar> Let me paste it for you 14:58 <@Dagmar> The TNGOP is really running around calling a black man .Uncle.? 14:58 <@Dagmar> In public? 14:58 <@Dagmar> Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. 14:58 <@Dagmar> Sweet Jesus, you couldn.t make shit like that up. 14:59 <@Dagmar> So you can stop fucking saying that *I* brought up the subject. 14:59 <@Dagmar> You guys did when you posted the fucking URL, and the guy making the blog post did when he made his commentary there. 14:59 <@polerin> "Aunt B" 15:00 * polerin shrugs 15:00 <@polerin> i'm on ignore anyway 15:00 <@polerin> I love how he won't ignore people for being directly racist or homophobic, but I get the ignore for saying something about it 15:00 <@polerin> heh 15:00 <@Dagmar> So, for you guys to up and declare that it *must* be racist because somehow I came to whatever conclusion entirely on my own is a load of horse shit. 15:01 <@polerin> rhia: please ask for a paste for where any of us said it must be racist. 15:01 <@polerin> rhia: or that it must be anything more than really fucking insensitive and stupid. 15:01 <@Dagmar> I've been listening to the conservative fuckwits on podcasts and talk radio for months now 15:01 <@Dagmar> They are *really* trying hard to demonize Obama as being everything we don't like about Republicans. 15:01 <@rhia> and they're hiding behind robes that aren't there 15:01 <@Dagmar> This is just another way of going about it. 15:02 <@rhia> Steele just announced a few days ago (week?) that Obama wasn' 15:02 <@rhia> t vetted Becasue He's Black 15:02 <@Dagmar> Being unable to see it because you're too busy deciding something is and can only be interpreted as racism is keeping you from seeing reality. 15:02 <@rhia> coming from Steele, that's a riot in & of itself 15:03 <@rhia> that's its completely verifiably untrue is even more telling 15:03 <@polerin> But of course the Republicans aren't race baiting. No.. it's not like they are going around saying that sotomayor is just being selected because she's a hispanic woman 15:03 <@Dagmar> Ah yes because everything politicians say is exactly and literally true 15:03 <@Dagmar> ...and no one ever, ever nicknames anyone. 15:04 <@rhia> and i don't see boogeymen in every shadow, but, damn, when they're calling a spade a spade repeatedly, you start to doubt they mean "shovel" (iow) 15:04 <@Dagmar> Fail. 15:04 <@rhia> no, they're playing to their strongest base - they fail 15:04 <@Shadow404> rhia: leave me out of this 15:05 <@rhia> Shadow404: but you Are the boogyman 15:05 <@polerin> It also falls into the message they are pushing that "White people (men) are being disadvantaged because of liberal guilt." 15:05 <@polerin> no, and the boogieman is 404 in shadow too :P 15:08 <@polerin> I think it is also tellign that the republicans automatically demand an apology over the slightest slip of the tounge if white guys, guns, or the military are involved in the most tangental of ways, but if it's someone saying that "hey, calling a black man Uncle after you sent out a flyer with his head on a crow has serious issues" you're race baiting. 15:09 <@polerin> I'm just curious when an accumulation of small things becomes a big one. 15:11 <@rhia> could be they know how to play in the mud, most dems don't like getting dirty - which plays into their 'elitist' label - more likely cuz liberals argue amongst themselves too much, the repubs more religiously follow the scripts sent to them 15:13 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@rrcs-98-101-35-242.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 15:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 15:13 <@m0j0-j0j0> m00nin 15:17 <@rhia> m0j0-j0j0: then pull your shorts up 15:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> rhia: you know you like it when my drawers are around my ankles. 15:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> especially if I've got somebody who is hyper pissed off shootin at me 15:41 -!- Dementia [n=sara@maxiez.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:42 -!- Dementia [n=sara@maxiez.com] has joined #se2600 15:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dementia] by ChanServ 15:42 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: +atg, @rhia, miniMerc 15:43 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @rhia, miniMerc, +atg 16:04 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:45 -!- rattleXx [n=rattle@pool-96-231-27-192.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:53 -!- Drag0n` [n=dragon@12.116.138.30] has quit ["connection reset by shears!!!"] 17:18 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 17:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 17:19 -!- jb7od [n=itsME@adsl-065-080-187-241.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 17:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jb7od] by ChanServ 17:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: ping 17:31 -!- I-MOD [n=I-MOD@74-95-48-251-Huntsville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:31 -!- JimShoe [n=JimShoe@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:32 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:39 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:41 -!- rattleXx [n=rattle@76.74.8.242] has joined #se2600 17:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> slow day :9 17:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> I guess I'm headed home 17:43 <@m0j0-j0j0> try not to break anything until I get there 17:43 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@rrcs-98-101-35-242.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit ["damnit Craig! 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The P was perl before it was PHP 21:31 < miniMerc> polerin: bullshit 21:31 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: i'm fine thanks. 21:31 <@polerin> nope :P 21:31 < miniMerc> Perl was indeed a CGI language long before PHP was 21:31 < miniMerc> but LAMP was PHP from the beginning 21:31 < miniMerc> trust me 21:31 <@Dagmar> I'll take your word on it. 21:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> LAMP is PHP 21:32 <@m0j0-j0j0> generally 21:32 <@polerin> perhaps now 21:32 <@sdodson> cgi... for when you really need your site to be slow as balls 21:32 <@polerin> but I always heard it as perl initially 21:32 < miniMerc> well, you're new compared to me 21:32 < miniMerc> so let me clue you in 21:32 < miniMerc> LAMP was PHP from the beginning 21:33 < miniMerc> you're welcome 21:33 <@m0j0-j0j0> anyway 21:33 <@m0j0-j0j0> anyone an expert on the stuff? 21:33 <@polerin> miniMerc: no, it's not :P 21:34 <@sdodson> What's this? Time for miniMerc's nightly installment of "Look kid I was leet when you were in diapers"? 21:34 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: again what's the problem with it 21:34 <@Dagmar> Mainly we just "make things go" 21:34 <@polerin> I'm not exactly a young kid myself any more :P 21:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: fine or not fine, but suborn? 21:34 <@Dagmar> We're not the type of people to lob in someone else's collection of stuff 21:35 < miniMerc> sdodson: no, its "polerin nightly installment of he knows i hate fags so he wants to argue about something he doesnt know about just to attempt to bring somebody else down" 21:35 <@polerin> miniMerc: new compared to you? phht 21:35 < miniMerc> polerin: quit trolling 21:35 <@polerin> uh, no, fuck you. 21:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: the problem is with Perl and PHP and Ruby for that matter 21:35 < miniMerc> give up 21:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: and linux/apache/mysql 21:35 <@polerin> this has nothing to do with sexual orentation or gender identity, and you're being a douch about it 21:35 <@Dagmar> Well, that narrows it down slightly. 21:35 < miniMerc> douche? 21:36 < miniMerc> k 21:36 * miniMerc pats polerin on the head 21:36 <@Dagmar> So we can be reasonably sure from what's been mentioned that it's not a MySQL problem. 21:36 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: yes, but that's like saying the problem with your car is chrystler/honda/mini 21:36 <@Dagmar> Maybe. 21:36 <@Dagmar> sdodson: Besides if we wanted slow we'd use IIS 21:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: my problem is a lack off qualified candidates 21:37 <@polerin> miniMerc: and talk some more bullshit about it. I'll discuss anything I damn well please and I'll dissagree with anyone who is wrong, doesn't matter what their stance on anythign else is 21:37 <@Dagmar> I disagree 21:37 <@polerin> miniMerc: oh you're looking to fill a position 21:37 < miniMerc> waaaah 21:37 < miniMerc> waaaaaaaah 21:37 <@CRasH180> what is the issue you are having m0j0-j0j0? 21:38 <@Dagmar> Sounds to me like your problem is that you've convinced yourself that knowledge of Apache, MySQL, Perl, PHP, and Linux separately can't possibly have anything to do with your problem. 21:38 <@CRasH180> sometimes it is better to simply ask the question 21:38 <@Dagmar> So try in #LAMP 21:38 <@polerin> miniMerc: you're being an asshole for no reason other than to make yourself feel like a big strong man, and I don't have to take that shit 21:38 <@polerin> :P 21:38 < miniMerc> waaaah 21:38 < miniMerc> :P 21:38 < miniMerc> :P <-- lol 21:38 <@m0j0-j0j0> CRasH180: again, a lack of qualified candidates 21:38 <@tzanger> wow, did I step into yesterday? 21:38 <@Dagmar> Because the REST of the people in this channel have detailed knowledge of those things separately. 21:38 <@Dagmar> Fuckstick. 21:38 <@CRasH180> Then, as Dagmar said, go to #LAMP 21:39 <@polerin> tzanger: I dissagreed what the initial P in LAMP was about, and merc started yelling about fags and calling me a guy 21:39 <@CRasH180> Each one may have a piece of your puzzle 21:39 <@polerin> tzanger: welcome to #se2600 21:39 <@tzanger> I've got the L, but very little of the AMP. I can do *things* with them but that's about it 21:39 <@polerin> ;p 21:39 <@brimstone> it stands for python, duuh 21:39 <@Dagmar> IT STANDS FOR PENIS, OKAY? 21:39 <@CRasH180> but, when combined together we have have a full LAMP 21:39 <@tzanger> polerin: if you take offence at being called a guy I would take it then that you're the other kind of gender :-) 21:39 <@Dagmar> Peeenis. 21:39 <@CRasH180> OKAY! ;) 21:39 <@tzanger> hahaha 21:39 <@Dagmar> :) 21:39 <@brimstone> YOU STAND FOR PENIS 21:39 <@tzanger> Linux Apache MySQL and PENIS 21:39 <@CRasH180> PHPness 21:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> Linux/Apache/MySQL/Penis 21:39 <@polerin> tzanger: I am. but there's more to it :P 21:39 < miniMerc> rofl 21:39 <@brimstone> Linux And My Penis 21:40 < miniMerc> penis 21:40 <@Dagmar> lol 21:40 < miniMerc> perfect 21:40 <@tzanger> brimstone: AWESOME 21:40 <@tzanger> tag it 21:40 < miniMerc> how salient 21:40 <@polerin> **headdesks** 21:40 <@polerin> Wonder why there are so few women in this group. 21:40 <@tzanger> I used to do LAPP stuff (I have a strong dislike of MySQL) 21:40 <@tzanger> but that was years ago 21:40 <@brimstone> Linux And Penis Penis? 21:40 <@Dagmar> Oooo a Postgr*s user 21:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> Postgres? 21:40 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: but now you have me curious, what the hell is the problem? 21:41 <@tzanger> yep Postgres 21:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> ugg 21:41 <@brimstone> that doesn't sound like fun stuff 21:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> I was one of those for a minute 21:42 <@CRasH180> bbl 21:42 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: I work in the lamp stack all day long, so I may not be a guru but i'm familiar with it 21:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> anyways.. I figured I'd ask in here... I figure the company can wait until we find a good candidate, but wanted to see if I could help someone out 21:42 <@polerin> :P 21:42 <@polerin> oh it IS a position, not a problem 21:42 <@polerin> ok nm 21:42 < miniMerc> is the :P thing an obsession 21:43 < miniMerc> yuo seem to type it on an average ratio of 1:1 to normal posts 21:43 < miniMerc> it DOES tend to make you seem more feminine, so you may be onto something 21:43 <@Evilpig> am I reading this right as someone tried to say the P in amp / lamp doesn't stand for php? 21:43 <@polerin> it's more like 1:3 and yes, it is. 21:43 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: you happy? 21:43 < miniMerc> Evilpig: polerin said it stood for perl originally 21:43 <@tzanger> I always thought it was Perl, myself 21:43 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: It stands for penis. 21:43 < miniMerc> which is bullshit 21:43 <@Dagmar> On that we can all agree. 21:43 <@tzanger> but Perl/PHP/Python... ? 21:44 <@polerin> of course, you also troll about the same ratio, so pot/kettle 21:44 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: yeah that's fine 21:44 < miniMerc> he just wanted to argue with me 21:44 < miniMerc> since he doesnt like me 21:44 < miniMerc> cuz i dont recognize his crotch as female 21:44 <@polerin> get my fucking gender right. 21:44 < miniMerc> big whoop 21:44 < miniMerc> ok dude 21:44 < miniMerc> got it 21:44 -!- miniMerc was kicked from #se2600 by polerin [polerin] 21:44 -!- Merc0 was kicked from #se2600 by polerin [polerin] 21:44 -!- miniMerc [n=merc@c-71-203-225-226.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:45 < miniMerc> pfft ;) 21:45 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: no, I mean are you happy with your current job 21:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+vvv [1NF0]_Work dasunt Falun] by polerin 21:45 < miniMerc> <@polerin> miniMerc: and talk some more bullshit about it. I'll discuss anything I damn well please <-- so will i, bro 21:45 < miniMerc> you arent the only one with freedom of speech around here 21:45 < miniMerc> fuckin freak 21:46 <@polerin> and yet I'm the one that seems to get shit on 21:46 <@polerin> gee 21:46 <@m0j0-j0j0> miniMerc: you really are treading close to the line 21:46 <@polerin> I wonder the fuck why. Because I stand out? 21:46 < miniMerc> m0j0-j0j0: ive been trolled, blame polerin 21:46 <@polerin> bullshit I was trolling 21:46 < miniMerc> shhh 21:47 <@polerin> the P was PERL in everything I heard up untill about 2002-2003, where it started to have a split definition 21:47 < miniMerc> lol @ 2002 21:47 < miniMerc> just stop, bro 21:47 <@m0j0-j0j0> miniMerc: you look like a troll so.. that's what happened.. she was confused by the pubes on the chin 21:47 < miniMerc> its embarrassing 21:47 <@polerin> considering the acronym was coined in 1998, yes, 2002. 21:47 <@Dagmar> ObThisIsWhyWeCantHaveNiceThingsGripe 21:48 <@polerin> Dagmar: if I'm off your ignore, this shit is why i'm twichy. 21:48 < miniMerc> poor you 21:48 < miniMerc> poor little you 21:48 < miniMerc> say dumb shit and then get called on it, only to defend your ridiculous position 21:48 <@polerin> I can't even have a standard disagreement without someone yelling obsenities and talking about how i'm just pissiy because they don't like me 21:48 <@m0j0-j0j0> SO 21:48 <@m0j0-j0j0> next topic 21:49 <@tzanger> yeah I have been using linux since about '96, and that stuff didn't take off until about '99 IIRC, so that makes sense why I thought it was perl :-) 21:49 <@polerin> see! 21:49 <@tzanger> miniMerc: perhaps I missed it, but what exactly did she say about LAMP that was dumb? 21:49 < miniMerc> LAMP as an acronym to describe a development platform began and is primarily concerned with PHP 21:49 < miniMerc> tzanger: it was perl first 21:49 <@polerin> tzanger: at this point it can mean any of the three majors now 21:49 <@tzanger> miniMerc: I am pretty sure it *WAS* perl first 21:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> it SO doesn't matter 21:49 <@tzanger> nowadays it can mean pretty much anything 21:49 < miniMerc> perl was certainly a CGI/glue language before PHP 21:50 < miniMerc> but LAMP started as PHP 21:50 <@tzanger> I was around when PHP was just coming up 21:50 < miniMerc> and has been for most of its life as an acronym 21:50 <@tzanger> and I was working with both 21:50 < miniMerc> i dont care what you say tzanger, you're still trolling from yesterday 21:50 <@tzanger> this again 21:50 < miniMerc> or was it earlier today, about how yer a driver developer so you know everything about how Dell should do business 21:50 <@polerin> And it doesn't fucking matter, why the fuck did it turn into "be homophobic and transphobic towards erin because she's got a standard dissagreement" 21:50 <@tzanger> honestly is there a reason why we haven't banned this pipsqueak yet? 21:50 < miniMerc> be quiet 21:50 < miniMerc> it was always PHP 21:50 < miniMerc> noone asked you 21:50 < miniMerc> tzanger: waaaah 21:50 <@polerin> why is my saying it's Perl worth calling me a fag"? 21:50 * miniMerc hands tzanger a tissue 21:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*n=merc@*.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] by tzanger 21:50 -!- miniMerc was kicked from #se2600 by tzanger [tzanger] 21:50 <@tzanger> fuck that 21:51 <@polerin> jeesus fucking christ 21:51 <@tzanger> if you can't fucking argue without acting like a 3 year old, fuck off 21:51 <@tzanger> I have had *lots* of net arguments 21:51 <@tzanger> but that's fucking ridiculous 21:51 <@polerin> I can't even have a different opinion without it turning into a fucking debate about my gender and who I sleep with 21:51 <@polerin> FUCK 21:51 <@tzanger> if you can't argue a point, shut up, but name calling and shit? 21:52 <@Dagmar> What's probably the case is that the first turnkey iteration (which I wholly ignored at the time) probably had both perl and php in it 21:52 <@Dagmar> ..but penis works, and we can all agree on it 21:53 <@polerin> Dagmar: I object to it :P 21:53 <@tzanger> heh 21:53 <@Dagmar> It's _clearly_ an epeen issue to be sure 21:53 <@polerin> I have no use for penis whatsoever 21:53 <@polerin> heh 21:53 <@polerin> epeen or not 21:53 <@tzanger> ... epeen? 21:53 <@brimstone> Electric Penis 21:53 <@Dagmar> Like ecommerce. 21:53 <@tzanger> interesting 21:54 <@brimstone> and egoverment 21:54 <@polerin> aka "internet dick size" 21:54 <@tzanger> that reminds me 21:54 <@m0j0-j0j0> enis 21:54 <@tzanger> I have a page from some business magazine from the late 90s 21:54 <+coil> penis 21:54 <@tzanger> it is a full page ad from IBM 21:54 <@tzanger> there's a bicycle cheel 21:54 <@tzanger> er bicycle wheel 21:54 <@tzanger> it says "bicycle wheel" 21:54 <@Dagmar> There used to be a site like all these other forum sig generators that would ask you a bunch of questions and then give you a GIF that was wider depending on how "large" your epeen was 21:54 <@tzanger> the one beside it is a square one 21:55 <@tzanger> but it says "ebicyclewheel.com" 21:55 <@tzanger> and the ad says something along the line of "putting a bad idea online doesn't make it good" 21:55 <@Dagmar> I *think* it was epeen.org but I'll be damned if I'm pulling that up at work to see 21:56 <+coil> Human penis size refers to the length and width of human male genitalia. Interest in larger penis sizes has led to an industry devoted to penis enlargement. 21:56 <+coil> To get the most accurate measurements for an individual's penis size, it has been recommended that several measurements be taken at different times, preferably with different erections on different days. Then average these figures together. 21:57 <+coil> any thoughts? 21:57 <@polerin> coil: "I don't care?" 21:57 <@polerin> :P 21:57 <@Dagmar> TMI 21:58 <@tzanger> coil: that method takes too long. I suggest we just make wild guesses with increasing numbers until we settle on something we're happy with 21:58 <@m0j0-j0j0> coil: already got one.. thanks 21:59 <@brimstone> apt-cache show orange, srsly? 22:00 <@tzanger> orange? 22:01 <@brimstone> yes, it extracts files from cab compressed installers 22:01 <@tzanger> interesting 22:01 <@tzanger> I just ran that command myself 22:01 <@tzanger> there's so much open source software around that does so many interesting things 22:01 <@tzanger> I'll never know all fo it 22:01 <@Dagmar> That's just weird 22:01 <@Dagmar> I guess it explains how they get by without cabextract then 22:01 <@tzanger> and the aggravating part is spending the day or days creating tzangers_uber_regex or tzangers_mega_perl_module only to discover someone else made one 1000x better 6 years ago 22:02 <@Dagmar> Too right 22:02 <@brimstone> for real, i <3 Date::Manip 22:02 <@polerin> hehe 22:03 <@Dagmar> That thing is win 22:03 <@tzanger> yes date::manip is one of those things that even if I devoted all my time to it I could not create something as good 22:03 <@polerin> ok 22:03 <@Dagmar> It was win back in 97 and I'm sure it's even more win now 22:03 <@polerin> date manipulation is one place where perl has php beat hands down 22:03 <@polerin> fucking date manip is WEAK in php 22:03 <@m0j0-j0j0> brimstone: I ported Date::Manip to actionscript 22:03 <@Dagmar> By now it can probably parse crap like "a week from tuesday" by tunneling back up from the input stream to find the sending date on the email you're trying to read 22:04 <@tzanger> heh 22:04 <@tzanger> I hang out in a perl channel 22:04 <@brimstone> teehee 22:04 <@tzanger> and it's filled with a bunch of local, smart perl people 22:04 <@tzanger> and we talk about anything BUT perl 22:04 <@tzanger> but every now and again it degrades to perl golf 22:04 <@tzanger> and all I can do is sit idly by and wait 22:05 <@Dagmar> perl golf? 22:05 <@tzanger> because on that particuar bell curve, I'm not even on the far left 22:05 <@tzanger> yes 22:05 <@tzanger> "how few characters can you use to make perl do $foo?" 22:05 <@Dagmar> Oh hell no 22:05 <@polerin> angry line noise. 22:05 <@Dagmar> I don't get involved in stuff like that 22:06 <@tzanger> yep 22:06 <@tzanger> what was the most recent 22:06 <@brimstone> epeen 22:06 <@polerin> yeah. I'd rather right clear, concise code. 22:06 <@polerin> brimstone: exactly. 22:07 <@tzanger> perl -le 'map{$a=$_;s/\d*[05]$/buzz/;$a%3||s/\d*/fizz/;print}1..100' 22:07 <@tzanger> plays the classic fizzbuzz game 22:08 <@tzanger> any perl code that uses map makes my eyes cross immediately 22:08 <@tzanger> mind you I get a kick out of the IOCCC 22:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> haha map is the entry point to perl black magic 22:08 <@Dagmar> it is teh ebil 22:09 <@m0j0-j0j0> that and '{' 22:09 <@tzanger> yeah I have successfully managed to use it ONCE 22:09 <@tzanger> it took me a week to get it working 22:09 <@tzanger> and I commented the fuck out of my code 22:09 <@tzanger> I came back to it a few months later 22:09 <@tzanger> and I was lost 22:12 <@tzanger> bleh 20 after 11 already 22:12 <@tzanger> I should go to bed 22:23 <@rhia> plenty of time to sleep when you're dead 22:24 <@Dagmar> Here's a question 22:24 <@Dagmar> If I showed up at 22:24 <@sdodson> SUSPENSE IS BUILDING 22:24 <@Dagmar> a meeting with one of thesse http://www.whatjamiefound.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/four-toes-jerboa.jpg 22:24 <@sdodson> TYPE FASTER 22:24 <@Dagmar> How many people would accuse me of evil genetic manipulation 22:25 -!- Drag0n [n=dragon@pool-173-74-79-58.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:28 -!- Drag0n [n=dragon@pool-173-74-79-58.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 22:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Drag0n] by ChanServ 22:29 <@sdodson> Looks like 0. 22:29 <@Dagmar> These are freaky little guys http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2009/05/42493/what-the-heck-is-a-jerboa-the-answer-adorable/ 22:30 <@Dagmar> It's like they're just a head with legs and a tail 22:42 <@tzanger> http://vinothkumarm.blogspot.com/2009/05/electric-train-high-voltage-wire-is.html 22:42 <@tzanger> wow that didn't take long at all 22:46 <@Dagmar> Human suffering or not that's awesome 22:46 <@tzanger> he didn't suffer much 22:46 <@tzanger> actually I have a few cool videos 22:46 <@tzanger> not about dying though 22:47 <@tzanger> http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/LugoSWR.mpg 22:47 <@tzanger> that's a DC link being opened up somewhere in south america 22:48 <@sdodson> Transmission happens in DC? 22:48 -!- JimShoe [n=JimShoe@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined #se2600 22:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o JimShoe] by ChanServ 22:48 <@tzanger> yep 22:48 <@tzanger> the big links 22:49 <@tzanger> they also use DC links to link the various parts of the grid 22:49 <@tzanger> that aren't synchronous 22:49 <@tzanger> http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/TransformerFireVideo.mpg 22:49 <@tzanger> that's a substation transformer that blows up, that's pretty cool 22:50 <@tzanger> http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/babygotbible.wmv 22:50 <@tzanger> that's just fucking funny 22:50 <@tzanger> http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/Rockwell.wmv 22:50 <@tzanger> as is that 22:53 <@sdodson> is there a particular place in that video that's funny? 22:57 <@tzanger> the babygotbible? I like the whole thing 22:57 <@tzanger> christian spoof of mix-a-lot 22:58 <@sdodson> the rockwell thing 23:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> you make the music go back you hear Satan speaking 23:10 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: no 23:15 -!- I-MOD [n=I-MOD@74-95-48-251-Huntsville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 23:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o I-MOD] by ChanServ 23:19 <@Dagmar> ...except in that video Satan is encouraging people to get jobs, be productive members of society, cut their hair, etc 23:23 -!- devnull [n=Dev@c-69-180-4-86.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:23 < devnull> hello 23:24 -!- devnull [n=Dev@c-69-180-4-86.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:26 <@tzanger> the rockwell one is funny because it's how the shit I do for a living must sound to normal people 23:27 <@tzanger> if I start atalking about harmonic injection and torque smoothing or bearing currents or step responses of control loops and so on 23:29 <@sdodson> in video drivers? 23:35 <@Catonic> I just had a really* *bad* *idea* 23:43 * polerin isn't sure about the torque smoothing, but harmonic injection sounds like you're dealing with RF interference (or possibly reflections, but that wouldn't be injections) 23:47 <@sdodson> Catonic: wow, that's awesome, thanks for sharing! 23:52 <@sdodson> bah the power justwent outand it'svery very dark out tonight --- Log closed Thu May 28 00:00:01 2009