--- Log opened Sat May 09 00:00:26 2009
00:03 <@sdodson> So. I aborted a yum transaction. Next time I ran yum it told me that I had a transaction left to complete. So I installed yum-utils and ran yum-complete-transaction, i turn my attention to something else for a few seconds and then I get http://pastebin.ca/1417102
00:05 <@Evilpig> nice
00:05 <@Evilpig> was it supposed to be an upgrade or something?
00:05 <@sdodson> Evilpig: Ya, I was in the middle of upgrading 200 packages when I aborted the yum transaction
00:05 <@sdodson> Well, 255 apparently
00:05 < dc0de> gotta go... boarding... l8r
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01:43 <@Dagmar> Wow.  North nashville better batten down the hatches
01:56 <@sdodson> Dagmar: You going out drinking?!
01:57 <@Dagmar> No.  More serious "weather" moving in
01:58 <@Dagmar> For my part, I'm giving Windows 7 a shot at completely destroying my desktop.
01:59 <@Dagmar> ...partly because if they don't autoconfigure as well as Ubuntu, I may wake the neighbors with my laughter.
02:10 <@sdodson> EVeryone I talk to is nutting all over Windows 7 saying it's the bestest evar!
02:10 <@Dagmar> I don't trust any of those people.
02:11 <@sdodson> Why not?
02:11 <@Dagmar> Because if you sprayed enamel on some shit and sprinkled a few diamonds on it they'd call it bling.
02:12 <@sdodson> I'm not talking to brothers in the hood. I'm talking to my co-workers.
02:12 <@Dagmar> Well, there's also the "every other release" rule they seem to follow
02:12 <@sdodson> 2000 and XP were on par with each other.
02:13 <@Dagmar> Desktop versions
02:13 <@sdodson> XP was a better desktop but not in any real way other than having a year or two more consumer grade crap.
02:14 <@sdodson> 2000 was a corporate desktop
02:27 <@Dagmar> lool
02:28 <@Dagmar> This thing behaves like Compiz in "gussied up" mode
02:38 <@Dagmar> I think they're ringing sirens somewhere near here now
02:40 <@Dagmar> I'm having a hard time seeing W7 looking better than Ubuntu.
02:40 <@Dagmar> THis is good.
02:44 <@Dagmar> The new 8800 wah battery seems to be working out okay so far
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08:11 < ware> we made it
08:22 < ware> http://cache.fimservecdn.com/contents/635/223/223635/rawr_160by600_4.jpg
09:35 <@Evilpig> am I reading this right that 2 is the default run level on ubuntu?
09:40 <@polerin> I believe so
09:41 <@polerin> debian as well
09:49 <@brimstone> init 2 4 life
10:07 <@Evilpig> well I think that should get warren's server to play firewall
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10:49 < miniMerc> i think im gonna take a nap
10:49 < miniMerc> being awake for nearly 3 hours has really worn me out
11:14 < dasunt> I was awake for...
11:14 < dasunt> 2?
11:16 < miniMerc> then you took a nap?
11:17 < dasunt> Debating it.
11:22 <@Evilpig> getting ahold of comcast support is a pain in the ass.  I miss my direct number to my isp
11:23 < miniMerc> just keep screaming "AGENT" at the voice recognition
11:24 < miniMerc> course thatr gets you tier 1
11:24 < miniMerc> which is largely useless
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11:27 <@TheLightCosine> merc: everyone at comcast is useless
11:29 < miniMerc> quite possible
11:29 <@TheLightCosine> one time i called them and i told their tech "I'm not getting an ip address, i tried renewing the dhcp lease, when that didn't work i pwoercycled the modem."
11:29 <@TheLightCosine> the tech replied "okay first I need you to turn the modem off for 10 seconds then turn it back on"
11:29 < miniMerc> yea
11:29 <@TheLightCosine> "I told you I already did that" "no you didn't"
11:29 <@TheLightCosine> "that would be what pwoercycle means"
11:30 <@TheLightCosine> he then put me on hold for 5 minutes and dropped the call
11:30 < miniMerc> the only time theyve actually helped me is when i got a new modem or something, and the person who gave it to me didnt enter the MAC correctly on the remote side or whatever
11:30 < miniMerc> so it wouldnt associate
11:30 < miniMerc> usually tier 1 can do that
11:30 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: yeah
11:30 < miniMerc> if you get one with an IQ above 90 and get them to break out of the script, you _may_ get help (which is rare)
11:30 <@Evilpig> bah.  level 1 can set the static config on my modem
11:31 <@Evilpig> have to goto tier 2 to get my in-addr-arpa record put in
11:31 < miniMerc> i dont use their dns
11:31 <@TheLightCosine> or the time i called in from my inlaws and asked what ip address i was being assigned "i can't tell you that sir. you see we use something called dhcp" "right genius, so go into your dhcp server and see what address i'm being leased"
11:32 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: i think their view into that is very limited. i tried getting them to release my current dhcp lease, told me it was impossible with the tools they have
11:32 <@TheLightCosine> he then tried to tell me you can't do that with dhcp
11:32 < miniMerc> yeah
11:32 <@TheLightCosine> that's retarded
11:32 < miniMerc> _he_ probably couldnt
11:32 < miniMerc> indeed, it is retarded
11:33 <@TheLightCosine> he didn't realise arguing with me about it was a mistake seeing as how at that evry time my job at embarq incldued provisioning customers in the dhcp pools of our aggregators =P
11:33 < miniMerc> i think basically all they have in front of them is a script, and a big button on their screens that resets your modem
11:33 < miniMerc> and thats about it
11:33 < miniMerc> as far as tier 1 goes
11:33 <@TheLightCosine> heh
11:33 <@TheLightCosine> "i am sending a signal to your modem/receiver"
11:34 <@TheLightCosine> "okay that didn't work, i'll send someone out"
11:34 < miniMerc> yeah
11:34 <@TheLightCosine> man asd fucked up of a company as Embarq was, at least they gave us tools to do our job
11:35 <@TheLightCosine> techs were expected to check provisioning in both the dslams and the redbacks, and get a tech lead to redo it if there was a problem
11:35 < miniMerc> comcast is hyooge and they need to pay their tech support as little as possible
11:36 <@TheLightCosine> and if you were going to dispatch you betetr have damn well proved it was a physical signal issue on the line
11:36 < miniMerc> that means hiring people who are not really skilled beyond a basic ability to use a mouse and type
11:36 <@TheLightCosine> although they weren't nearrly as anal as earthlink
11:36 <@TheLightCosine> at earthlink they'd make us have the customer test for sync at the NID
11:37 <@TheLightCosine> i felt like a jerk telling people to get an extension cord and tkae their modem out around the side of their house and jack it into that little gray box the telco usually tells you not to mess with
11:37 < miniMerc> hah
11:37 < miniMerc> having to tell grandma that is probably demoralizing
11:39 <@TheLightCosine> still not as abd as working for someone like dell
11:39 <@TheLightCosine> some of the folks i work with ehre worked for dell
11:39 <@TheLightCosine> they tell me about having an 80 year old grandma reseat her cpu
11:39 < miniMerc> yea
11:40 < miniMerc> old people tend to call their monitor the "computer" and consider the case their CPU
11:40 < miniMerc> i run into that all the time
11:40 < miniMerc> *shuffle* ok i moved my CPU 6 inches to the right
11:55 <@Dagmar> I try to tell myself it's a matter of context
11:56 <@Dagmar> ...because otherwise I'd be screaming "WHY CAN'T YOU CALL *THAT* THE GODDAMN 'COMPUTER'??"
11:56 <@Dagmar> I sat in on the first day of computing 101 at MTSU.
11:56 <@TheLightCosine> ..
11:56 <@TheLightCosine> did you have an aneurism?
11:57 <@Dagmar> They called the main computery part the CPU and I walked out
11:57 <@Dagmar> Went straight to OIT and told them either I get to skip that one and go straight to something meaningful, or I'll make the lives of everyone in there miserable
11:58 <@Dagmar> ...but basically the computer newbie classes invariably call the mid-tower or whatever the CPU because of context, which still pisses me off
11:59 <@Dagmar> Give it about 10 more years and it won't really matter, becasue the GPU and the PPU (physics processing unit) will make it illogical to refer to the mere "CPU" as anything special and we'll just be calling them "the damn chips"
11:59 <@Dagmar> ;)
12:00 <@TheLightCosine> heh
12:00 <@TheLightCosine> i thought use of ppus was kinda falling back by the wayside as higher end GPUs basically negated the need for them?
12:01 <@Dagmar> They are, and it goes to show
12:03 <@Dagmar> Welll...
12:03 <@Dagmar> It looks like Windows 7 hasn't set my machine on fire yet
12:03 <@Dagmar> *YET*
12:03 < miniMerc> wait for iiiit...
12:03  * TheLightCosine put the beta on a virtualbox and has never gotten around to palying with it
12:03 <@Dagmar> Aero's drop shadows are definitely overdone tho
12:05 < miniMerc> i keep aero off cuz i run a few games that turn it off and on annoyingly
12:05 < miniMerc> and aero really doesnt add anything too awesome, besides maybe the task switcher being prettier
12:09 <@Dagmar> I can't figure something out about this tho
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12:09 <@Dagmar> These desktop gadgets...
12:09 <@Dagmar> They look somehow familiar
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12:10 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, yes, Linux had these back IN THE NINETIES
12:10 <@TheLightCosine> heh
12:10 <@TheLightCosine> next windows will announce the exciting new openGL cube feature!
12:10 <@Dagmar> Considering that Ubuntu 9.x looks *better* than this, I dont' really doubt it
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17:57 < Synx_hm> i cannot get this damn vhost apache to work
18:01 < AstralSin> Synx_hm: whats the trouble/
18:01 < AstralSin> ?
18:01 < Synx_hm> well i might be using wrong syntax i guess
18:02 < Synx_hm> but no matter what i put it routes back to the main documentroot
18:02 < AstralSin> hold on, i can get you what i use if you want
18:02 < Synx_hm> ya please
18:02 < Synx_hm> wtf is NameVirtualHost is that new to apache?
18:02 < AstralSin> 1 second
18:02 < AstralSin> uhh.. non-existent?
18:03 < dasunt> LOL.
18:03 < dasunt> What does a P with a circle around it and a line through it mean?
18:03 < dasunt> http://atlanta.mybikelane.com/plate/782
18:06 < AstralSin> Synx_hm: what version of apache?
18:06 < Synx_hm> AstralSin, oh got it working now
18:07 < AstralSin> oh ok
18:07 < Synx_hm> not juts need to set index.php to the default index for that vh
18:07 < AstralSin> ahhh
18:07 < AstralSin> yeah, that'll do it
18:07 < Synx_hm> had to use NameVirtualHost *:80 that fixed it
18:07  * AstralSin is in the midst of his first all-grain homebrewing experience
18:07 < Synx_hm> well the .php is a new part of the problem i did fix the other vh part though
18:08 < Synx_hm> how do i make .php an default index possibility to a vh?
18:12 < Synx_hm> nm
18:12 < AstralSin> hehe
18:12 < AstralSin> DirectoryIndex index.php
18:13 < AstralSin> or whatever your index is
18:13 < Synx_hm> thanks
18:13 < Synx_hm> next thing i need to figure out is howto make the VH ssl only, such that if a users goes to http it forwards them directly to https
18:14 < AstralSin> put a php forwarder to https:// in the document root
18:14 < AstralSin> well, no
18:14 < AstralSin> shit, i don't know off the top of my head
18:15 < Synx_hm> i want to buy paintamapofhawaii.com
19:12 <@brimstone> paint a map of hawaii?
19:12 <@brimstone> Synx_hm, AstralSin, mod_rewrite
19:13 <@brimstone> RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ https://paintamapofhawaii.com/$1 [L,R=permanent]
19:13 <@brimstone> in the :80, not the :443 vhost
19:14  * brimstone busts into the conversation an hour later
19:15 < miniMerc> brimstone: at least you busted in with a clue
19:15  * brimstone swings his clue-by-4 wildly, missing most things
19:17 <@brimstone> i wish newegg remembered that i sorted things by lowest price first
19:17 <@brimstone> or they had a "i'm a cheapskate and aren't going to buy a $400 mobo" checkbox
19:21 <@sdodson> brimstone: Please be aware that busting in with clue is grounds for permbans.
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19:44 < AstralSin> brimstone: $400 mobo?!? jesus christ, will it suck your dick?
19:44 < miniMerc> its got what plants crave
19:45 <@sdodson> I want a new laptop.
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19:48 <@sdodson> ware: is that your shirt?
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19:49 < ware> ?
19:49 < ware> lying beside your moms bed?
19:49 < ware> probably
19:49 < miniMerc> inappropriate
19:49 < ware> trolls over there plz ->
19:50 < ware> this is srs biz talk
19:50 < miniMerc> my sack loves your mouth
19:51 < ware> my sack gets you higher than youve ever been
19:52 < miniMerc> just when you thought it was safe:
19:52 < miniMerc> my sack
19:53 < ware> also, sack.
19:54 < ware> 9/11 Never froget - my sack
19:55 < miniMerc> happy cinco de sacko
19:56 < miniMerc> commemorating the day my sack defeated your chin
19:58  * AstralSin needs a sack
19:58 < ware> if you elect me president, my sack
19:58 < miniMerc> sacks are fun and educational for the whole family
19:58 < AstralSin> i don't engage in corrupt political activities
19:59 < AstralSin> or any political activities
19:59 < ware> as well as squid billies
20:00 < miniMerc> i like that show
20:01 < AstralSin> squidbillies is cool
20:01 < AstralSin> grape damn popsicle
20:01 < ware> lol hell no
20:01 < ware> its the most retarded fucked up shit ive ever seen
20:01 < miniMerc> you must not watch tim and eric
20:02 < miniMerc> my personal fav
20:16 < AstralSin> tim and eric is the dumbest show ever
20:17 < miniMerc> exactly
20:17 < AstralSin> the fact that people like the show makes me worry about the future of the human race
20:17 < miniMerc> dont get mad cuz you dont get it
20:17 < AstralSin> let me rephrase that... makes me worry *MORE* about the future of the human race
20:18 < miniMerc> try lighter fare, like the three stooges
20:18 < miniMerc> you'll be alright
20:18 < AstralSin> i suppose my level of intelligence prevents me from 'getting' the humor that appeals to the lesser members of the race
20:18 < miniMerc> ya thats it
20:18 < ware> kiawani: ping
20:18 < ware> Evilpig: ping
20:19 < ware> importante
20:22 < AstralSin> i went to Rebel Brewer today... that place is awesome, small but the guys are super nice and knowledgable
20:22 < miniMerc> did you guys hold hands
20:27 < ware> also, sack
20:27 < miniMerc> the only thing we have to fear is sack itself
20:28 < miniMerc> lets git down ta bizzniss
20:28 < miniMerc> i aint got no time ta play around
20:28 < miniMerc> wut iz this
20:28 < miniMerc> must be a circus in town, lets shut this shit down
20:28 < miniMerc> on deez clowns
20:28 < miniMerc> can i git a witness...
20:28 < miniMerc> HELL YEAH
21:09 <@Dagmar>   /window balance
21:09 <@Dagmar> bleh
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21:15 < ware> dasunt: i can link you to the irssi help file if you'd like
21:16 < ware> Dagmar: ill link it as soon as im done reading it
21:16 < ware> :P
21:16 <@Dagmar> What?
21:17 < miniMerc> sack?
21:17 < ware> Dagmar: my sack
21:18 <@Dagmar> In less pointless news, Ubuntu actually makes Windows 7 look cheap
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21:20 < miniMerc> jumpin out my skin
21:20 < miniMerc> the skin im in
21:20 < miniMerc> and the hydroponic's on...
21:29 <@Dagmar> Reason #6000 to hate MIcrosoft: No 64-bit drivers for their own damn fingerprint scanner
21:30 <@Dagmar> Reason #6001 to hate GDM: There's no way to make the fucking fingerprint identify the user
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21:42 <@Dagmar> Kid still got that weird purple color to him?
21:43 <@maco> wtf?
21:43 < miniMerc> ...
21:43 <@maco> how do you have hardware support in 32 bit but not 64 bt
21:43 <@maco> shouldn't that just be a recompile?
21:43 <@Dagmar> maco: You've got me
21:44 <@Dagmar> I think basically XP might be the last OS they're going to make that work with
21:44 <@maco> so uh, Adobe's started releasing their stuff 64bit, but only for linux
21:45 <@Dagmar> I'm figuring this refused to work because of some damn dll or other
21:45 <@maco> getting Windows to work with 64bit is so much of a chore nobody's doing it, so nobody's clamoring for plugins for 64bit
21:45 <@Dagmar> Weirdly, everything else seems to work okay
21:45 <@Dagmar> I plopped in Logitech's Vista 64-bit drivers in, and the mouse and keyboard work fine
21:45 <@maco> 64bit linux is no harder than 32bit, so we end up with plenty of people using it and then begging for Adobe's stuff...which is why Flash and Air are available for 64bit linux but not 64bit Windows
21:46 <@Dagmar> VERY IRRITATINGLY I seem to be getting higher frame rates in Dalaran
21:46 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling that's a matter of the 64-bit nVidia driver being a bit more nimble
21:46 < miniMerc> my shoes and socks always match
21:47 < miniMerc> is it luck?
21:49 <@Dagmar> Could be that you only have one pair of shoes and a whole shitload of identical socks
21:50 <@Dagmar> It says you've probably not made any recordings
21:50 <@Dagmar> wrong chan
22:00 <@Evilpig> ware: ping
22:04 < miniMerc> k
22:30 < miniMerc> snl
22:33 < miniMerc> grow up, citibank
22:50 <@sdodson> ohhai guiz whatup
22:50 <@sdodson> I'm not paying citibank the $9 I owe them hoping that they just go under and I don't have to worry about it.
22:51 <@sdodson> maco: wow64 makes running 32bit userland a non issue on windows
22:51 <@sdodson> which is why no one cares about 64bit small apps on windows
22:52 <@sdodson> ware: Thanks for cheering her up for Mothers Day.
22:53 <@sdodson> ahh home ownership, 6 months of payments and I've paid off a whopping $600 of principle
22:54 <@tzanger> sdodson: yeah
22:55 < ware> np
22:55 <@tzanger> I just bought a $400k house, gonna hit about 3.75% interest
22:55 <@tzanger> 50% of my first payment is principle at that rate :-)
22:55 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Windows requires anyone doing certified drivers to work both for 32bit and 64bit.
22:56 <@sdodson> tzanger: suck my toe
22:56  * sdodson at 6.5%
22:56 <@tzanger> sdodson: don't feel bad, my current mortgage is at like 5.9 or something
22:56 <@tzanger> sdodson: but even at 8% interest you wouldn't talk to the generation between my father's and grandfather's generation... they were paying like 18% interest ON A MORTGAGE
22:57 <@sdodson> tzanger: is this like alcohol volume in beer where canadians measure it differently?
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22:58 <@tzanger> sdodson: ?
22:58 <@tzanger> we measure it differently?
22:58 <@tzanger> bud's like 4.something% in the US and in Canada
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22:58 <@tzanger> not that I drink that crap
22:58 <@sdodson> tzanger: Yes, you measure alcohol differently in beer and like to brag about our lame beers.
22:59 <@tzanger> I don't think we do...?
22:59 <@sdodson> Classic canehdian ploy.
22:59 <@tzanger> our beers are all like 4-5.5%ish, as are yours
23:00 < miniMerc> it would be my honor
23:00 < miniMerc> to be your new stepfather
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23:01 <@devemo> Hello!
23:01 < ware> 9/11/01 never forget - pl wdf
23:02 <@tzanger> http://hackaday.com/2009/05/08/fart-intensity-detector/
23:02 <@sdodson> ware: wtf?
23:02 <@tzanger> lawl
23:03 <@tzanger> ware: I'm actually reading an interesting book relating to that
23:03 <@tzanger> "Ghost Plane: The true story of the CIA torture program" by Stephen Grey
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23:08 < [1NF0]> What? The CIA doesn't have a torture program ;)
23:09 < ware> noice
23:09 < ware> a $400k house in .ca is jsut that
23:09 < ware> ... still in .ca
23:09 <@tzanger> haha
23:09 <@tzanger> I'm happy in .ca
23:09 < ware> :P
23:21 <@Evilpig> ware: what did you want earlier?
23:21 <@Evilpig> we had gone out to go see star trek
23:21 < ware> dont remember
23:21 < ware> something bout wow
23:21 <@sdodson> Evilpig: to see your tits
23:42 < miniMerc> mm
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23:50 < miniMerc> TALKIN BOUT
23:50 < miniMerc> CRAZY COOL MEDALLIONS
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