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00:49 < miniMerc> boring
00:58 < eryc> want me to kick u
00:58 < eryc> porkslap?
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01:41 < miniMerc> an if you want beef, then bring da ruckus
01:41 < miniMerc> wu tang clan aint nuttin ta fuck wit
01:52 < miniMerc> tiger style
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02:04 < miniMerc> it was predicted by a medic
02:05 < miniMerc> id grow up to be an addicted diabetic livin on liquid triamenic
02:05 < miniMerc> somebody help me
02:05 < miniMerc> before i oh-dee on an el-pee
02:05 < miniMerc> take me ta ee-are ay-ess-ay-pee
02:05 < miniMerc> for an i-vee
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03:39 < miniMerc> sheesh
03:40 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: thank you
03:41 <@TheLightCosine> my bad, as they say about assumptions
03:41 < miniMerc> it happens
03:47 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: on a lighter note, congratulate me on my dell mini, you creep
03:47  * miniMerc vogues
03:49 <@TheLightCosine> which one?
03:50 < miniMerc> 9
03:50 <@TheLightCosine> the mini9?
03:50 <@TheLightCosine> nice
03:50 < miniMerc> yea
03:50 <@TheLightCosine> i want one for my wife
03:50 < miniMerc> its cute
03:50 < miniMerc> and utterly usable
03:50 <@TheLightCosine> she's using the old xps laptop atm
03:50 < miniMerc> utilitarian, if you like
03:50 < miniMerc> well if all she does is browse, email, twit, etc...mini 9 is fine
03:50 < miniMerc> it even does some dumb shit, like my snes emulator
03:51 < miniMerc> videos play well
03:51 < miniMerc> not HD just, you know, xvids, youtube
03:51 < miniMerc> the vertical resolution is really my only gripe
03:52 < miniMerc> but its workable
03:52 < miniMerc> i guess if you have the extra cash and dont mind the size you could get the 10
03:52 < miniMerc> or, whatever else it is
03:52 < miniMerc> 10 and 12
03:52 <@TheLightCosine> my wife doesn't need it for much
03:52 < miniMerc> yeah
03:53 < miniMerc> its basically a very fucking nice terminal
03:53 <@TheLightCosine> if i can get Civ4 working udner wine she'll be mroe than happy i'm sure
03:53 < miniMerc> ...
03:53 <@TheLightCosine> just gotta spend the cash on the bigger hdd
03:53 < miniMerc> honestly i wouldnt be able to say on the civ4
03:53 < miniMerc> i wouldnt hold your breath
03:53 <@TheLightCosine> it's been done
03:53 < miniMerc> but i havent tried it
03:53 <@TheLightCosine> now that's not say it's been done by me
03:53 <@TheLightCosine> but it has been done
03:53 < miniMerc> civ4 under wine on the mini?
03:54 < miniMerc> ive done civ4 in wine no problem
03:54 <@TheLightCosine> well not on the mini, but civ4 on wine
03:54 < miniMerc> the mini is a bit different
03:54 < miniMerc> ahhh, yeah
03:54 <@TheLightCosine> oh?
03:54 < miniMerc> cpu is not that great bro
03:54 < miniMerc> nor is the video chip
03:54 < miniMerc> dont expect civ4, is my recommendation
03:54 <@TheLightCosine> meh
03:54 < miniMerc> have someone try it, by all means
03:54 < miniMerc> i wouldnt even run wow on this thing
03:55 < miniMerc> and wow is less intensive than civ4
03:55 <@TheLightCosine> lol wow and civ4 have somewhat skewed reqs from eachother tho heh
03:55 <@TheLightCosine> no way is wow less itnensive than civ4
03:55  * miniMerc shrugs
03:55 < miniMerc> if you say so
03:55 < miniMerc> as i said, by all means
03:55 < miniMerc> dont take my word for it as i havent done it
03:55 < miniMerc> im just sayin
03:55 < miniMerc> i wouldnt hold my breath
03:56 < miniMerc> its a good terminal
03:56  * TheLightCosine shrugs, the xps laptop is working for her for now
03:56 < miniMerc> nod
03:56 < miniMerc> what cpu is that?
03:57 < miniMerc> you gotta remember, this is intel atom which is supposed to be about half the speed of equivelent celeron mhz
03:57 < miniMerc> so if this is what, 1.gGhz
03:57 < miniMerc> erp, 1.6
03:57 < miniMerc> you can consider this an 800Mhz celeron
03:57 < miniMerc> plus, intel GMA 950 mobile video
03:57 < miniMerc> which is ok for tuxracer
03:58 < miniMerc> i wouldnt run wow or civ4 on it
03:58 < miniMerc> im sure some nut out there may be doing it, i dont know
03:58 <@TheLightCosine> heh
03:58 < miniMerc> im guesstimating for you
03:58 < miniMerc> thats all
03:59 <@TheLightCosine> and the old xps is a core 2 due t2500
03:59 < miniMerc> hah
03:59 < miniMerc> so it still wipes the floor out the fuck beneath the mini ;)
04:00 < miniMerc> im not knocking it, i just...i dunno
04:00 < miniMerc> maybe i should shut my mouth and try WoW. i just dont see it happening
04:00 < miniMerc> ive seen it choke on medium-def video
04:00 < miniMerc> WoW can be super-tuned downwards, i see civ4's engine as less optimized
04:01 < miniMerc> ive seen the differences on a box with a recent-ish nvidia
04:01 < miniMerc> i kinda consider WoW the lowest common denominator when it comes to current gen 3d SHIT
04:01 < miniMerc> shit rather
04:02 < miniMerc> theres also a shitload more going on CPU wise with civ4
04:02 < miniMerc> id reckon
04:02 < miniMerc> no server to offload to
04:02 < miniMerc> lots of AI
04:02 <@TheLightCosine> hrm maybe
04:03 <@TheLightCosine> civ4 doesn't seem that intesive to me
04:03 < miniMerc> anyways id test it for you? but...the way SSD works, i gather the less you write to it the better
04:03 <@TheLightCosine> at least not if you turn the video off
04:03 < miniMerc> so im not willing to write a bunch of shit to the drive that i dont care about
04:03 <@TheLightCosine> yeah
04:03 < miniMerc> civ4 is cool, ive played it a bit...if you're creative and patient enough freeciv is just as good
04:03 < miniMerc> not as much fancy shit but eh
04:04 < miniMerc> speaking of, i should install freeciv
04:04 <@TheLightCosine> my wife and I actually got hooked for a bit on a freeware windows game called Dwarf Fort lately
04:04 < miniMerc> heh
04:04 < miniMerc> whatever works, man
04:04 < miniMerc> frozen bubble can be fun
04:04 <@TheLightCosine> the game is frustarting but addictive as hell
04:04 < miniMerc> just gotta get into the zone
04:04 < miniMerc> now i HAVE run pokerstars in wine on the mini
04:05 < miniMerc> so i can tell you wine works fine and commesurate with, well, what id expect out of the hardware
04:05 < miniMerc> just dont think its a normal box
04:05 <@TheLightCosine> i spent two hours the other day setting up a complicated system of channels and pumps topull water from the enarby river into a series of dug out udnerground cisterns so my fdwarves didn't have to go outside for water anymore
04:05 < miniMerc> and the 3d support is minimal
04:05 < miniMerc> hah
04:05 < miniMerc> sounds like simcity meets warcraft
04:05 <@TheLightCosine> pretty much
04:05 <@TheLightCosine> it started as an ascii game
04:06 < miniMerc> nice
04:06 <@TheLightCosine> and what you can do is mostly only limtied by your imagination
04:06 <@TheLightCosine> i created an entryway into the fort that had a muster room off of it with basically an airlock, so my guards would open an inner door,  then they'd hit a elver inside the 'airlock' and the inner door would clsoe and the outter door would open
04:07 <@TheLightCosine> so they could deploy to meet ivnading forces without exposing deeper areas of the fort
04:07 < miniMerc> huh
04:07 < miniMerc> sounds intriguing
04:07 <@TheLightCosine> yeah, the game is extremely unforgiving though
04:07 <@TheLightCosine> and there are still bugs in it
04:08 <@TheLightCosine> your dwarves can actually go insane
04:08 < miniMerc> heh
04:08 <@TheLightCosine> which can suck if there are no guards around to subdue them because they can kill other dwarves, which can make their lvoed ones grieve which costs you productivity etc
04:08 < miniMerc> nothing like a little realism to ruin a good game
04:09 <@TheLightCosine> you can actually end up in a cycle where one dwarf going insane starts a chainr eaction that destroys your entire fort
04:09 < miniMerc> once i got the mini with ubuntu on it (i require at least 1 linux box at all times, no more) my desktop went to vista and ive been playing LOTRO
04:10  * TheLightCosine just got his beta key for Bloodbowl so i'll be playing that this week
04:10 < miniMerc> huh
04:10 < miniMerc> fantasy football eh
04:10 < miniMerc> never heard of it
04:10 <@TheLightCosine> Warhammer football to be precise
04:10 < miniMerc> i played warhammer a bit
04:10 < miniMerc> nod
04:11 <@TheLightCosine> i never had the time or money to ivnest in warhammer
04:11 <@TheLightCosine> i already had MtG to put an unhealthy drain on my wallet
04:11 < miniMerc> i spent about $300 total and still didnt have much
04:11 < miniMerc> some basic scenery
04:11 < miniMerc> mostly unpainted dudes
04:11 <@TheLightCosine> I finally came to my senses a little voer a eyar ago and quit playing magic
04:11 < miniMerc> kind of a waste
04:11 < miniMerc> yeah magic is kinda worse
04:11 < miniMerc> but its still fun
04:12 < miniMerc> i understand how ppl get into it
04:12 <@TheLightCosine> yeah
04:12 <@TheLightCosine> i was going to pro-tour quals
04:12 < miniMerc> oh yeah
04:12 <@TheLightCosine> the last round of ptqs and the philly grand prix finally jsut killed the fun of it
04:12 < miniMerc> see it gets so, well, almost mathematical at some point
04:12 < miniMerc> theres not much creativity to it
04:12 < miniMerc> the way i see it
04:12 < miniMerc> ya know
04:12 <@TheLightCosine> "Oh look it's another TEPS deck...what a surprise*yawn*"
04:12 < miniMerc> you're working on a set type of deck
04:13 < miniMerc> sort of like WoW actually
04:13 <@TheLightCosine> exactly
04:13 <@TheLightCosine> then it's "who has the most money to blow"
04:13 < miniMerc> ok tank, dps, heal, what are you
04:13 < miniMerc> haha
04:13 < miniMerc> yah
04:14 < miniMerc> believe me if i were younger when magic came around i prolly woulda been all over it and ruined my parents credit with it
04:14 <@TheLightCosine> i had a deck finely tuned to kill between 4-7 turns everytime no matter what
04:14 <@TheLightCosine> that wasn't good enoguh at grand prix philly
04:14 < miniMerc> as it is, i was happy to get a D&D rulebook once in awhile
04:14 < miniMerc> which wasnt that expensive
04:14 <@TheLightCosine> that's when i threw my hands up
04:14 < miniMerc> huh
04:14 < miniMerc> yeah that stuff makes my head hurt anyway
04:14 <@TheLightCosine> it was like in starcraft when everybody played BGH and just zerg rushed
04:14 < miniMerc> beyond the money, i cant wrap my head around that shit
04:14 < miniMerc> stops being fun
04:14 < miniMerc> seems like homework
04:14 <@TheLightCosine> "you people aren't even trying to have fun anymore"
04:15 < miniMerc> yea
04:15 <@TheLightCosine> exactly
04:15 <@TheLightCosine> that's why i like civ4...well bthat and my OCPD means that once i start a game of it i can't stop
04:15 < miniMerc> civ is fun
04:15 < miniMerc> and it plays at your time level too
04:15 < miniMerc> and yeah, you can be creative
04:16 < miniMerc> the game is what you make it
04:16 <@TheLightCosine> civ is the perfect game to play while doing other things
04:16 < miniMerc> not some pre-constructed uber solution
04:16 < miniMerc> yep
04:17 < miniMerc> now that im thinking about it
04:17  * miniMerc apt-gets
04:18 <@TheLightCosine> hrm, that reminds me, i  need tyo pull out my laptop while it's slow today and figure out why compiz-fusion is causing me buffer problems in my xterm
04:18 <@TheLightCosine> curse my addiction to eyecandy
04:20 < miniMerc> i wouldnt mind seeing THE CUBE on the mini
04:20 < miniMerc> but the ubuntu netbook remix crap doesnt have it
04:20 < miniMerc> and honestly, i doubt id put up with the extra lag
04:20  * TheLightCosine runs Debian Lenny on his alienware
04:21 <@TheLightCosine> and i have compiz majorly tweaked out
04:21 <@TheLightCosine> but for some reason with compiz turned on, there is delay in my xterm buffer. If i type something, it will only show up after i type something else
04:21 <@TheLightCosine> so it's always one line behind
04:23 <@TheLightCosine> i know realistically i should just turn compiz off, but i have my desktops set up in a cylindar with the app windows raised off the surface of it, so it looks so fucking cool heh
04:23 <@TheLightCosine> and i lvoe to just show people and go "Can Vista do that?!"
04:23 < miniMerc> heh
04:23 < miniMerc> yeah its good to showing mac queens
04:23 < miniMerc> but eh
04:24 < miniMerc> honestly the mini doesnt have the extra horsepower to spare
04:24 < miniMerc> it'd add signifigant UI lag
04:24 <@TheLightCosine> i'm sure
04:24 < miniMerc> another problem
04:24 < miniMerc> sigh
04:24 <@TheLightCosine> the mini would be great for doing sutff like taking to cons or go wardriving with tho
04:24 < miniMerc> freeciv's 'start new game' window is significantly larger than 600 pixels
04:25 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: yes
04:25 <@TheLightCosine> where you just wanna be able to bust out some tools
04:25 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: hell i do almost everything on the mini, from my couch, chatting, browsing, emailing, IM, etc etc
04:25 < miniMerc> it just aint a game box
04:25 < miniMerc> well hell, i have my logitech dual action plugged up and i play SNES emu with no problems
04:25 < miniMerc> loading roms over the local net
04:25 < miniMerc> and i watch videos again, over the local net
04:26 < miniMerc> but it aint a A/V powerhouse
04:26 < miniMerc> as i said. its a great terminal
04:26 <@TheLightCosine> oh ubuntu has a really decent gameboy emu that does everything but the ds
04:26 < miniMerc> its a fucking astounding terminal
04:26 < miniMerc> eh i have snes emu, why mess with GB :)
04:26 <@TheLightCosine> virtualboyadavnce
04:26 < miniMerc> nod
04:26 < miniMerc> i have friends who are fans
04:26 <@TheLightCosine> i had a brief flirtation with pokemon again heh
04:27 < miniMerc> pokemon isnt horrible
04:27 < miniMerc> i played one of them when i had a GBA
04:27 <@TheLightCosine> i have still only ever played the original gameboy ones heh
04:27 < miniMerc> it was a GB cart yeah
04:27 < miniMerc> but the GBA took it
04:27 <@TheLightCosine> again, it's my ocpd that makes games like that crack to me
04:27 < miniMerc> sure
04:27 < miniMerc> hey whatever you like
04:27 <@TheLightCosine> "Must collect...stupid...creatures!"
04:27 < miniMerc> im that way with old ultima games
04:28 < miniMerc> i have the mini setup with dosbox running all the old ultimas
04:28 < miniMerc> 4,5,6,7,8
04:28 <@TheLightCosine> I'm the asshole that sat on GTA vice city and refused to beat the last missions until he found every one of the hidden packages and boguht all the property etc
04:28 < miniMerc> doesnt matter how many times ive played them, ill forever love playing ultima 5
04:28 <@TheLightCosine> I need to get dosbox running on a machine
04:28 < miniMerc> heh
04:28 < miniMerc> completionist eh
04:28  * TheLightCosine wants to play Tie fighter again
04:28 < miniMerc> im an explorer type
04:28 < miniMerc> oOOOOH
04:28 < miniMerc> thats a good game
04:29 < miniMerc> fuck yeah
04:29 < miniMerc> i wonder how the mini would handle it
04:29 <@TheLightCosine> *nod*
04:29 < miniMerc> probably damn well
04:29  * miniMerc gets ideas
04:29 <@TheLightCosine> heh it was like win95
04:29 < miniMerc> nah theres a dos one
04:29 <@TheLightCosine> so i iamgine that reqs are like nothing
04:29 < miniMerc> lemme look
04:29 < miniMerc> i have a 8G archive of DOS games ;-)
04:29 < miniMerc> yay usenet
04:29 < miniMerc> brb
04:29 <@TheLightCosine> nice
04:30 < miniMerc> oh hmm
04:30 < miniMerc> the ones i have for DOS are
04:30 < miniMerc> Star Wars X Wing (1993)(Lucas Arts):
04:30 <@TheLightCosine> booyah
04:30 < miniMerc> A[A[AStar Wars Tie Fighter (1994)(Lucas Arts):
04:31 < miniMerc> yep, tie fighter
04:31 < miniMerc> dos, 1994 :)
04:31 < miniMerc> i oughtta fire that up
04:31 <@TheLightCosine> hell yes
04:31 < miniMerc> good idea
04:31 <@TheLightCosine> amazing game, great storyline too
04:31 < miniMerc> eh the flight is just amazinf
04:31 < miniMerc> the controls
04:31 <@TheLightCosine> the campaigns actually told a story which i always thoguht was freaking sweet
04:31 < miniMerc> the weapons
04:31 < miniMerc> i just like the mechanics
04:31 <@TheLightCosine> tie defender ftw!
04:31 < miniMerc> doing the training missions
04:32 < miniMerc> flying thru those damn gates
04:32 < miniMerc> shooting the little targets
04:32 < miniMerc> good wholesome fun
04:33 < miniMerc> luckily a friend sent me this cute little mouse
04:33 < miniMerc> dont get me wrong
04:33 < miniMerc> the trackpad on the mini impressed me a lot
04:33 < miniMerc> its almost full size and works in linux flawlessly, all taps work well etc
04:33 < miniMerc> but for some shit, you just need a mouse
04:34 < miniMerc> without even knowing i was getting a mini, a friend sent me a care package with a wrt-54g, a couple of other goodies, and this cute little mouse
04:34 < miniMerc> its obviously a laptop mouse, cord is maybe a foot long
04:34 < miniMerc> foot and a half
04:34 < miniMerc> its optical tho, logitech, two buttons and third clickable wheel
04:34 < miniMerc> simple little thing but soooo light
04:34 < miniMerc> and soooo sleep
04:34 < miniMerc> sleeeek
04:34 <@TheLightCosine> freudian slip heh
04:35 < miniMerc> eh i aint ready for sleep yet :)
04:35 <@TheLightCosine> i'd love to go back to sleep
04:35 <@TheLightCosine> unfortunately i am at work
04:35 < miniMerc> early shift eh
04:35 <@TheLightCosine> London hours
04:35 < miniMerc> it happens
04:36 <@TheLightCosine> 3am-12pm local time
04:36 < miniMerc> nod
04:36 < miniMerc> im a late day person, id do well with a 6pm - 2am shift
04:36 < miniMerc> what part of the world is that
04:36  * TheLightCosine once made the mistake of, while tired, chatting in irc while answering the phone
04:37 <@TheLightCosine> so i answered the phone "IT Services this is wierd" and typed into irc "hunh well this is david"
04:37 < miniMerc> "hello yes STFU fag OH WAIT SORRY WRONG COMMUNICATION MEDIUM"
04:37 <@TheLightCosine> heh probably like china or japan =P
04:37 < miniMerc> yeah
04:37 < miniMerc> was thinking japan
04:37 < miniMerc> but japanese people are smarter than me
04:37 < miniMerc> i guess im screwed
04:38 <@TheLightCosine> eh only at math =P
04:38 < miniMerc> london? no problem. japan? ehhhh....
04:38 < miniMerc> heh
04:38 < miniMerc> true
04:38 < miniMerc> im a systems guy anyway, that sometimes seems to evade the math types
04:38 < miniMerc> they're more into coding
04:38 < miniMerc> but coders need stable systems to code on
04:38 < miniMerc> which is what i can provide
04:38 < miniMerc> JAPAN HERE I COME
04:39 < miniMerc> brb
04:41 <@TheLightCosine> heh
04:41  * TheLightCosine is currently an everything and the kitchen sink guy
04:42 <@TheLightCosine> a hardware expert, however, i am not
04:42 <@TheLightCosine> I know guys over ehre who can tell you all about duifferent proc manaufacturing tech, and propper memory timing, and even how to optimise power officiency
04:44 < miniMerc> yeah reminds me of google
04:44 < miniMerc> they have a whole army of hardware nerds
04:44 < miniMerc> like, to an extreme degree
04:44 < miniMerc> they build all their own servers and have some kinda weird power setup
04:44 < miniMerc> i cant compete there
04:44 <@TheLightCosine> yeah, i just ca't make myself care about hardware to that level
04:46 <@TheLightCosine> if I had to sum up the thing that gets me much love at my current job, it would be summed up by the xkcd t-shirt "Stand back, I know regex!" =P
04:46 < miniMerc> im an admin thru and thru. ive had the title 'systems engineer' before, but cant claim to either design hardware at the component level nor write core applications. im systems. i do glue, iterprocess stuff, engineering pricesses
04:46 < miniMerc> processes
04:46 < miniMerc> course i guess my job is done by someone else most the time these days
04:46 < miniMerc> as the economy gets lean, people do more
04:47 < miniMerc> i consider my specialties system administration, configuration management, process engineering
04:48 < miniMerc> rofl
04:48 < miniMerc> http://20.media.tumblr.com/b9vfl4b63mteaxzq2gcsEXgto1_500.jpg
04:48 < miniMerc> check it
04:53 < miniMerc> i do engineering princesses
04:54 < miniMerc> but srsly, http://20.media.tumblr.com/b9vfl4b63mteaxzq2gcsEXgto1_500.jpg
04:54 < miniMerc> thats fuckin hilarious
04:54 <@TheLightCosine> hahaha
04:55 < miniMerc> wait until swine flu kills 1 billion people
04:55 < miniMerc> itll get even funnier
04:57 < miniMerc> fuck mexico, they're at least 2nd world
04:57 < miniMerc> wait till this shit hits india or china
04:57 < miniMerc> WHOA BOY
04:57 < miniMerc> WELCOME TO MASS GRAVES, KIDS
04:58 < miniMerc> i wonder if a crackpot has decided the US govt created swine flu to destroy muslims yet
04:58 < miniMerc> when does that dirty laundry get aired
04:59 <@TheLightCosine> whenever spike lee gets a chance to be on tv again =p
05:00 < miniMerc> issa OUTRAGE! </johnny cochran>
05:00 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: we've had nights like this before, when we've bonded over so much...and you were so ready to ban me
05:01 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: resist the groupthink...I AM A GOOD PERSON
05:01 <@TheLightCosine> groupthink? doubleplusungood!
05:02 < miniMerc> I HAVE FEELINGS
05:02 < miniMerc> I AM A SENSITIVE YOUNG MAN
05:03 <@TheLightCosine> you are 30, you don't get to call yourself a young man anymore =P
05:03 < miniMerc> well not so young anymore but im still sensitive
05:03 <@TheLightCosine> lol
05:03 < miniMerc> 32 :P
05:03 <@TheLightCosine> ah
05:03 <@TheLightCosine> your profiles on the intarwebs were out of date
05:03 < miniMerc> hmm, which ones
05:04 <@TheLightCosine> hrm i can't remember if it was myspace or okcupid where i pulled 30 from
05:04 < miniMerc> after 15+ years on the internet, you leave behind quite a few profiles
05:04 < miniMerc> ah
05:04 < miniMerc> hmm
05:04 <@TheLightCosine> strangely, i am still extremely difficult to track across the web
05:04 < miniMerc> dunno, if they havent figured out how to extrapolate my age from my birth date....
05:04 < miniMerc> i dunno
05:04 < miniMerc> they dont matter to me anyway
05:05 < miniMerc> okcupid should have it right
05:05 < miniMerc> i have no idea what myspace is doing
05:05 < miniMerc> i never log in
05:05 < miniMerc> i have one illiterate friend who sends me messages thru facebook
05:05 <@TheLightCosine> i don't even remember what my myspace login info is anymore heh
05:05 < miniMerc> i always forget too
05:05 < miniMerc> im constantly having them send me my password
05:06 < miniMerc> well,
05:06 <@TheLightCosine> after the first kid i didn't have time for that shit
05:06 < miniMerc> constantly isnt accurate. when i log in every 3 months, i have to request my password
05:06 < miniMerc> yeah
05:06 < miniMerc> facebook is like myspace for people over 21, and i dont even have time for that
05:07 <@TheLightCosine> myspace reminds me of Geocities back in the day
05:07 < miniMerc> yes very similar
05:07 <@TheLightCosine> when everyone thoguht animated gifs and embeeded midis were the coolest thing ever
05:08 <@TheLightCosine> now it's flash movies and embedded music players
05:08 < miniMerc> its like geocities where everyone has an automatic guestbook app installed
05:08 <@TheLightCosine> not a big leap heh
05:08 <@TheLightCosine> heh
05:08 < miniMerc> and yeah, with the multimedia
05:08 < miniMerc> besides animated gifs
05:08  * TheLightCosine remembers his first 1mb geocities account
05:08 <@TheLightCosine> 1 whole megabyte!
05:09 < miniMerc> heh
05:09 < miniMerc> not trying to act badass, but i never had an account on one of those
05:09 < miniMerc> by the time geocities was popular, i was already a bit too sophisticated
05:09 <@TheLightCosine> heh
05:09 < miniMerc> host your shit on your own box with dyndns, fool!
05:10 <@TheLightCosine> that's where i first learned to write html
05:10 < miniMerc> which
05:10 < miniMerc> here's where you outpace me
05:10 < miniMerc> im still doing ;)
05:10 <@TheLightCosine> dyndns didn't exist back then =P
05:10 < miniMerc> http://quanta.homeip.net
05:10 < miniMerc> has existed for more than a decade
05:10 <@TheLightCosine> really, whene xactly was it started?
05:11 < miniMerc> used to have more shit but i took a bunch of it down since it dealt with...personal shit, kids, etc
05:11 < miniMerc> id estimate 1997
05:11 <@TheLightCosine> 1998
05:11 <@TheLightCosine> so yeah still didn't exist yet when i am thinknig of
05:11 < miniMerc> nod
05:11 < miniMerc> you took off a bit after i did
05:11 <@TheLightCosine> eventually i moved to hsoting off a guy i knew's box
05:11 < miniMerc> and probably exceeded me
05:11 < miniMerc> in several areas
05:11 <@TheLightCosine> which forced me to learn basic linux commands
05:11 < miniMerc> i took off around 1995
05:12 < miniMerc> so ya know, you learn different things
05:12 < miniMerc> different things become "standard"
05:12 <@TheLightCosine> I rememebr trying to install linux for the first time around 97 or 98
05:12 < miniMerc> nod
05:12 < miniMerc> thats still pretty early
05:12 < miniMerc> no shame there
05:12 <@TheLightCosine> i spent like 2 days on it and realsied i had no diea what i was doing
05:12 < miniMerc> heh
05:13 < miniMerc> i guess i was lucky since when i got into it, there wasnt much to do anyway :)
05:13 <@TheLightCosine> then i went off and did a lot of drugs for 7 or 8 years heh
05:13 < miniMerc> so i mastered most of what there was to do
05:13 < miniMerc> i hear ya
05:13 < miniMerc> i done plenty of that too
05:13 < miniMerc> always found myself back at the keyboard tho
05:13 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: terminals are the worst drug, eh?:)
05:14 <@TheLightCosine> heh
05:14 <@TheLightCosine> actually it wasn't until i worked at Earthlink that i remembered why I loved computers
05:14 < miniMerc> i used them as an ISP several times :2~)
05:14 <@TheLightCosine> and then drugs and computers were kind of synonymous there
05:14 < miniMerc> erp :)
05:15 < miniMerc> they were cool as dialup
05:15  * TheLightCosine remembers snorting heroin off his keyboard between calls
05:15 < miniMerc> haha
05:15 < miniMerc> well there youve done me one better again...never done heroin
05:15 < miniMerc> ive snorted oxys, which some ppl say are stronger
05:15 < miniMerc> but anyway
05:15 <@TheLightCosine> depends on the quality of the H
05:16 < miniMerc> back in the day i used earthlink as an ISP
05:16 < miniMerc> as a stopgap
05:16  * TheLightCosine had a 2.5 year run with oxy
05:16 < miniMerc> when i was between places
05:16 < miniMerc> ya know
05:16 < miniMerc> yeah you dont wanna get used to that shit
05:16 < miniMerc> itll grab you by the booboo
05:16 <@TheLightCosine> indeed
05:17 < miniMerc> ive flirted with opiates, but my real weakness was always the uppers
05:17 < miniMerc> ive had serious problems (quite a few years ago) with cocaine and amphetamine
05:18 <@TheLightCosine> yeah i know exactly what you mean
05:18 < miniMerc> i was always more of an upper guy
05:18 <@TheLightCosine> i did a lot of dope, but i was out of control when it came to coke
05:18 < miniMerc> stay up days at a time, dont eat, dont sleep, dont shit, dont shower
05:18 < miniMerc> just fuckin tweak
05:20 < miniMerc> aaaaanyway i cant believe you drew me into this shit
05:20 < miniMerc> YOU DID IT
05:20 < miniMerc> i dont even like thinking about it
05:20 < miniMerc> long fucking time ago
05:20 < miniMerc> all i do now is drink too much beer
05:21 <@TheLightCosine> i dun even do that
05:21 <@TheLightCosine> i'm boring!
05:21 <@TheLightCosine> although I epic failed on quitting smoking
05:21 < miniMerc> eh yea i still smoke too
05:30 < miniMerc> i still sniff glue
05:30 < miniMerc> i still claim true
05:31 <@TheLightCosine> heh
05:31 <@TheLightCosine> i was just talking to one of my coworkers about smartphones
05:31 <@TheLightCosine> when i ahd my htc, i was so happy i found a windows mobile copy of putty
05:31 < miniMerc> i still plug foolz, wit bulletz sendin niggaz to school wit my lyrical clues leavin you astounded by thugish ruggish truthz
05:31 < miniMerc> sorry im baiting ware
05:31 < miniMerc> haha
05:32 < miniMerc> yeah putty is the baseline app
05:32 <@TheLightCosine> and sshed into my fedora box at home at the time, to show off, only after i had laoded soemrthing in vi did i realsie the keybaord had no escape key
05:32 < miniMerc> if you have putty, at least you're somebody
05:32 < miniMerc> (notice the rhyme plz)
05:32 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: hah
05:32 <@TheLightCosine> you are a strange man
05:33 < miniMerc> i have a crap cricken phone
05:33 < miniMerc> it does have a qwerty tho
05:33 <@TheLightCosine> noawadays i use nano so it wouldn't be a big deal
05:33 < miniMerc> i dunno about ESC
05:33  * TheLightCosine is abck to a regular phone atm
05:33 <@TheLightCosine> i have considered switching to at&t to egt an iphone
05:33 <@TheLightCosine> but i may just eventually get another HTC
05:33 < miniMerc> theyre cute
05:33 <@TheLightCosine> they never took my eployee discount off my VZW account heh
05:34 <@TheLightCosine> so i get 20% off my bill
05:34 < miniMerc> noice
05:36 <@TheLightCosine> sweet I'm up for new every two next month!
05:36 <@TheLightCosine> i can't beleive it's been two years already
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07:41 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:45 <@TheLightCosine> morning
07:58 < rattleXXw> HAHAHAHAHAH!
07:58 < rattleXXw> Someone is spamming through the NANOG list!!!!
08:11 <@TheLightCosine> are we back at the hill center this friday?
08:12 <@Dolemite> I would assume so
08:25 < ware> weee
08:25 < ware> wutup sex4y ppl
08:25 <@Dolemite> just watching the video of Kevin Smith talk about how Warner Bros. fucked up his script writing for Superman
08:26 < ware> Dolemite: planet.nash2600 still going?
08:26 <@Dolemite> I don't know if mirage got the cron job working or not
08:26 <@Dolemite> He has to do it through cpanel
08:26 < ware> April 20, 2009 is the latest update
08:26 < ware> well add me, im back on the wagon
08:26 <@Dolemite> I'll go do a manual pull
08:26 < ware> phneak.net
08:27 < ware> sky and lm quit bloggin?
08:27 <@Dolemite> they just haven't had any updates
08:27 <@Dolemite> they're in the pull list
08:27 <@Dolemite> so was your stonermoments url
08:27 < ware> gotcha
08:28 <@Dolemite> www.phreak.net/rss.php?
08:28 < ware> http://phneak.net/feed
08:30 <@Evilpig> it would have to be fuckin' raining today
08:30 < ware> not in nash i hope
08:31 < ware> it was cloudy but it aint supposed to rain til later
08:31 < ware> we're supposed to play disc golf for lunch
08:31 <@Dolemite> it's supposed to be off and on today
08:31 <@Evilpig> doesn't look like it on the map.  but I was wanting to move a tv and shit when i drove down to nashville later and I can't int he rain
08:31 <@Dolemite> ware : good luck with that
08:34 <@TheLightCosine> Dolemite: haven't updated in a while but :http://blog.thelightcosine.net/rss.php
08:35 < ware> is that the txt based blog? phpblog or something
08:36 < ware> with txt flat file db
08:36 <@TheLightCosine> yeah simple php blog
08:36 < ware> thats it
08:36 <@TheLightCosine> it's really nice actually
08:37 < ware> yeah i used to use it then got sky and dole on it
08:42 <@Dolemite> I'm downloading the latest planet build to see if that'll fix it...   something isn't working right
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08:56 <@TheLightCosine> shit it's not letting me log into my blog for some reason
08:57 < ware> Evilpig: Dolemite: http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/04/25/video-teases-iphone-wow-client/
08:57 < ware> i call shens
08:58 < ware> but it looks legit
08:58 < ware> lol
08:58 <@Evilpig> there is the iphone authenticator but that is way different from that
08:58 < ware> hes actually playing in that vid
09:03 <@TheLightCosine> gah wtf
09:04 <@TheLightCosine> my phpblog is claiming that my administrator account is disabled by the administrator
09:05 <@sdodson> "Their reputation is on the line, and only the server can save them." ServerQuest II - A Day in a Geek's Life
09:09 < polerin1> TheLightCosine: sounds like it's time to twiddle in the db :P
09:10 <@TheLightCosine> gotta figure out where that shit is stored in here
09:10 <@TheLightCosine> i hate this kinda shit
09:16 <@TheLightCosine> according to the documentation that message should show up when the account is locked out, but how can the administrator account be locked out
09:17 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : Do you have a digital tuner on your tv?
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09:18 <@TheLightCosine> there we go
09:31 <@Evilpig> no
09:32 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I was planning on bringing a tv to hook the wii up to.  comcrap is supposed to be bringing out dig boxes
09:32 <@Dolemite> Ah, I was going to say, you should be able to get the major networks with an antenna from your new locale
09:32 <@Dolemite> you'll be close enough in to pick them up with rabbit ears
09:33 <@Dolemite> Oh, I leveled up 116 skill points in Fishing last night.  heh.
09:43 <@Dolemite> Hrmm, Evilpig is coming to Nashville and there are reports of Swine Flu outbreaks in the Southeast US...   is there a correlation?
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09:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> mornin folks
09:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> ugg.. bbiaf... vpn'in
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10:01 <@nachoguy> Congrats Piglet!
10:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> Evilpig: got a job!?
10:03 <@Evilpig> yup
10:03 <@Evilpig> I start tomorrow
10:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> Evilpig: awesome
10:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> Evilpig: can you lend me some money?
10:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> <eg>
10:03 <@Evilpig> just got off the phone with my insurance company and since I am getting renters insurance they are dropping my auto to $400 every 6 months for both vehicles plus $132 a year for renters
10:04 <@Evilpig> fuck no.  I have to pay for places to live for a while.  I am broke ass 
10:04 <@nachoguy> so what're you doing?  keeping the house and renting in Nash Vegas?
10:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> Evilpig: was just messin with ya
10:04 <@Evilpig> for now yeah.  gonna try to rent the house out til the market gets better at least
10:05 <@nachoguy> nice
10:05 <@Evilpig> I've been here 5 years and have little equity in it, plus the down market would not be a good time to try and sell
10:05 <@nachoguy> I'm not allowed to rent out my condo (board ruled against it) and no one wants to buy
10:07 <@nachoguy> so I know how that goes
10:07 <@nachoguy> I get lots of offers from people that want to rent it, no one wants to buy
10:08 <@CRasH180> Don't they realize that most people can only afford to rent right now and not buy?
10:08 <@CRasH180> That seems odd
10:08 <@nachoguy> yeah, they're dicks
10:09 <@CRasH180> a board of dicks? Well that certainly is an odd mental picture
10:09 <@nachoguy> someone else is also trying to sell right now.  I think if she can't either, we might be able to get it overturned
10:09 <@CRasH180> definitely
10:10 <@nachoguy> their theory is that renters are scum and they don't take care of places, so, they'll drive property values down.
10:10 <@CRasH180> right
10:11 <@CRasH180> While this may be true in some cases. It is not always that way
10:11 <@nachoguy> we'll see how low property values go when I either mail the keys back to the mortgage company or sell it for dirt cheap
10:11 <@nachoguy> I did consider letting local churches know that they could let vagrents sleep there.  So long as I'm not charging anything, it's not rent
10:12 <@CRasH180> haha
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10:55 <@sdodson> nachoguy: my place has rules that only 10% can be rented, I bet those 10% always go to the builder.
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11:25 <@Catonic> Fuck planets, I'm on a deathstar motherfucker....
11:26 < ware> <- im on a boat nukka, im on a boat
11:27 <@Catonic> ware's on deenuts and he's on deenutz man... it's a nautical-themed crotchcam
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11:38 < ware> hey does anyone have a digital camera i could borrow for my trip to colorado this weekend?
11:38 < ware> i still havent replaced mine that got stolen =/
11:42 <@Catonic> ware: you have no friends here. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can start the healing process. Don't live your life in denial.
11:43 < ware> right.
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11:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: NIMBY
11:44 <@TheLightCosine> I'd lend you mine but it's a piece of crap anyways
11:44 <@TheLightCosine> i think it's like 3megapixels
11:44 < ware> all i got is my cellphone and it sucks
11:44 < ware> i had a norcent 10mp but like i said it got ganked
11:45 <@TheLightCosine> lame
11:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> I have a Nikon D60 that I won't lend to anybody
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11:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: you know you can rent a nice digital slr camera pretty cheap
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12:32 < miniMerc> rofl
12:32 < miniMerc> the pentaverate
12:32 < miniMerc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPMS6tGOACo
12:32 < miniMerc> "AND colonel sanders before he went tits up"
12:32 < miniMerc> back when mike myers was funny
12:44 < rattleXXw> My office becomes more like the West Wing TV show every day..  Now we have someone working here who was actually a writer and actor on the show..  Heh
12:44 <@Corydon76-dig> rattleXXw: which one?
12:45 < rattleXXw> The black lady who played the National Security Advisor.
12:45 < rattleXXw> She is going to be resident here while work on the script for a play.
12:49 <@Corydon76-dig> rattleXXw: name?
12:51 <@Corydon76-dig> rattleXXw: the only person that seems to be credited with both acting and writing is Bradley Whitford
12:52 <@Corydon76-dig> though I didn't check all of the male names
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13:00 < rattleXXw> Anna Deavere Smith
13:03 <@Corydon76-dig> rattleXXw: she doesn't appear to be credited with any writing on imdb
13:03 <@Corydon76-dig> for West Wing, that is
13:05 < miniMerc> it was uncredited freelance work
13:05 < miniMerc> she ad libbed some lines
13:06 < rattleXXw> Hrm.  I may have been misinformed..
13:06 < rattleXXw> Well, either way, she is the new "Artist in residence".
13:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Very cool
13:08 < ware> TRS80 ftmfw
13:08 <@Dolemite> TRS80 Color Computer 2 > *
13:08 < miniMerc> trashware
13:08 <@Dolemite> modded with 16K RAM
13:08 <@Dolemite> er, 64K
13:08 <@Dolemite> up from the OEM 16K
13:09 < miniMerc> noone will ever need more than 64k
13:09 < miniMerc> until someone wrote gnome
13:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: a mod or a standard upgrade?
13:10 <@Dolemite> it was a warranty breaking mod
13:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
13:11 <@Corydon76-dig> The original A2 had 16k on board, but there was a standard 48k language card add-on
13:11 <@Dolemite> you had to desolder the existing chips and replace them with new ones which, conveniently enough, were available from your local Radio Shack
13:11 <@Dolemite> back when Radio Shack actually carried a shitload of electronic components
13:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Wow, not even socketed chips
13:13 < miniMerc> i couldnt even get a din -> ps2 minidin keyboard converter from radioshack a couple of months ago
13:13 < miniMerc> that place is useless anymore
13:13 <@Dolemite> hell, my first PC only had 2K RAM and it was all surface mount
13:13 < miniMerc> well, they could have ordered it for me
13:13 < miniMerc> but funk that
13:13 < miniMerc> i ended up going to shields electronics in knoxville, only place in town that carried them
13:13 <@Dolemite> miniMerc : But if you wanted a skin for your cellphone or a bluetooth adapter they could hook you up!
13:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, you might as well go online and get it cheaper than having to order it
13:14 < miniMerc> Dolemite: true
13:14 < miniMerc> which is CRAP
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13:14 <@Corydon76-dig> It's the whole point of there being a local store
13:14 < miniMerc> i actually did buy something from radio shack recently
13:15 < miniMerc> they had a logitech dual action gamepad
13:15 < miniMerc> but shit i coulda gotten one of those at walmart
13:15 < miniMerc> or, well, somewhere similar
13:15 <@Dolemite> retail profits off of the unskilled and uneducated
13:15 <@Dolemite> electronic components are rarely purchased by those demographics
13:16 < miniMerc> yeah but ratshack used to be the one bastion of shit nerds may need
13:16 <@Dolemite> Yes, I know, but it wasn't sustainable
13:16 < miniMerc> guess not
13:18 < miniMerc> i remember buying a serial cable there sometime after the year 2000
13:18 < miniMerc> years ago
13:18 < miniMerc> maybe 2001 or so
13:18 <@Dolemite> and they used to have the "Battery Club"
13:18 <@Dolemite> one free battery each month!
13:18 < miniMerc> sometime between then and now they must have been like "alright get all this old shit outta here, start selling crap to idiots"
13:19 < miniMerc> heh
13:19 < miniMerc> yeah i remember that
13:19 < miniMerc> i dont begrudge idiots their crap, but come on, they used to have shelves and shelves of drawers of little doodads
13:20 < miniMerc> they should keep a few of the little stuff around in the name of good will, if nothing else
13:20 < miniMerc> eh anyway
13:20 < miniMerc> i wonder if you can still buy CB radio antennas at radioshack
13:21 < miniMerc> probably not
13:21 <@Dagmar> They would be some of the things you probably can still buy there
13:22 <@Dolemite> they still have the components that don't get "upgraded" every year...  you can still buy common resistors and capacitors
13:22 <@Dolemite> some CB equipment and antennas
13:22 <@Dagmar> WORLD IS ENDING
13:22 <@Dolemite> you can also still buy a soldering iron and solder there
13:22 <@Dagmar> Arlen Specter is changing parties
13:22 <@Dolemite> already did
13:22  * Dagmar runs in circles
13:22 < miniMerc> he's been on the fence for decades
13:23 < miniMerc> now he's just being politically expedient
13:23 < miniMerc> lieberman should now go R
13:23 < miniMerc> to balance out the thermodynamics
13:23 <@Dagmar> "Flee the republicans now while it can't be viewed as going with the flow"
13:24 < miniMerc> i was as optimistic as i could have been when obama was elected; dare i say hopeful
13:24 < miniMerc> but after 100 days i think it can be safely said
13:24 < miniMerc> obama is an enormous assclown
13:25 <@Dagmar> So, we respect your opinion?
13:25 <@Dagmar> Did that happen when I wasn't looking?
13:26 < miniMerc> listen, i cant argue with you about it because i promised not to be trolled
13:26 < miniMerc> im just putting it out there
13:26 < miniMerc> you dont have to respect it, you just have to read it
13:26 < miniMerc> which you already did
13:26 < miniMerc> BAM
13:26 <@Dagmar> Well, when you say things like "it can be safely said ... obama is an assclown" we're expected to take you seriously?
13:26 < miniMerc> opinion heard, chalk one up for the mercster
13:26 < miniMerc> OOH YEA
13:27 <@Dagmar> Easier solution: /ignore minimerc all
13:27 < miniMerc> k
13:29 < miniMerc> ugh, time for AC
13:29 < miniMerc> when did summer start
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13:44 < miniMerc> Peaches1984!
13:46 <@TheLightCosine> miniMerc: we skipped spring and opted to go straight for the balls sticking to your legs portion of the year
13:47 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: nice
13:48 <@TheLightCosine> and for the record, merc is actually quite right about specter, he's a flipflopping nutbag
13:49 <@Dolemite> s/specter/<insert name of any poltician here>/
13:49 < I-MOD> TheLightCosine, when did we take that vote?
13:49 < I-MOD> i must not have been there
13:49 <@TheLightCosine> heh
13:50 < miniMerc> TheLightCosine: ever agreeing with me may be hazardous to your freenode cred
13:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> I-MOD: we don't get a vote (apparently)
13:50 < I-MOD> stupid seasons
13:51 <@TheLightCosine> indeed
13:51 < miniMerc> oh, seasons
13:51 < miniMerc> right
13:51 < miniMerc> well its better than snow in april, which ive also seen
13:51 < miniMerc> hot > cold
13:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: miniMerc is right, taking his advice on who is a nutbag isn't a wise choice.
13:52 <@TheLightCosine> it's not his advice
13:52 < miniMerc> M0j0-j0j0: takes one to know one
13:52 <@TheLightCosine> i grew up in PA =P
13:52 < miniMerc> so i might be qualified
13:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> miniMerc: never denied it
13:52 <@TheLightCosine> spent over 20 years there =P
13:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: so that makes you a specialist on nutbags?
13:53 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: he's a former meth addict
13:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: glass houses
13:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm going to lunch
13:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: don't make me regret that you're back
13:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> damn
13:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> too late
13:55 < I-MOD> cold < hot
13:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> ;)
13:55 <@TheLightCosine> M0j0-j0j0: no, but it makes me qualified to pass judgement on an elected official for my state =P
13:56  * miniMerc shrugs helplessly
13:56 <@sdodson> you guys pretty much suck
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13:57 <@Dagmar> Heh
13:57 <@Dagmar> Atlanta cops are learning spike strips don't work so well on a semi cab
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14:17 <@Dagmar> Wow
14:17 <@Dagmar> The RNC fails some more
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14:18 < ware> RNC > *
14:18 <@Dagmar> RNC chair was just bad-mouthing Spectre saying he changed parties out of personal political motives becasuse (paraphrased) he knew he was going to lose the primary because he had a history of not voting the way his party said he should
14:19 < ware> spectre is a noob
14:19 < miniMerc> haha
14:19 <@Dagmar> Problem #1: Tampering with democratic process
14:19 < miniMerc> ware wins
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14:19 <@Dagmar> Ya'll are both fuckin' idiots.
14:19 < miniMerc> k
14:19  * ware puts his troll away
14:19 < ware> i dunno / dun care about RNC DMC DMV PCP
14:19 < miniMerc> THC
14:21 <@TheLightCosine> Dagmar: are you surprised that the gop would say such a thing?
14:21 <@Dagmar> Not anymore
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14:22 <@TheLightCosine> we just had 6 years of "If you don't go along with us you're a terrorist"
14:22 <@TheLightCosine> hell , just wait till Bill o`reily picks this up
14:22 < miniMerc> would the DNC say any different if there was a republican majority and lieberman switched to R?
14:22 <@TheLightCosine> he'll want specter charged with treason i'm sure
14:23 <@TheLightCosine> please, the democrats aren't that organised
14:23 < miniMerc> lieberman already caught hell going to "independant"
14:23 <@Dagmar> I think Bill might be on thin ice with just about everyone at the moment, but we'll see
14:23 < miniMerc> i.e. "yall both fuckin crazy"
14:24 <@Dagmar> O'Reilly has gotten so much shit on his face he's losing advertisers on his own now
14:24 <@TheLightCosine> it's about time people realised he's batshit insane
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14:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Eh, he's not insane; he's just an opportunist
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14:30 <@timoguin> <3 O'Reilly
14:30 < miniMerc> oh really
14:30 <@timoguin> He's the best.
14:30 < miniMerc> oh'really
14:31 < miniMerc> get it
14:31 <@timoguin> yea i got it
14:31 < miniMerc> can you hear me now? good
14:31  * miniMerc runs
14:31 <@timoguin> I'm going for a run with the dog.
14:31 < miniMerc> i should run with my cat
14:31 <@timoguin> haha
14:32 < miniMerc> she needs it
14:36 < miniMerc> swine flu http://www.xkcd.com/574/
14:41 < ware> noice
14:41 < ware> you on twitter?
14:41 < ware> twitter.com/ware
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15:00 < miniMerc> i just went thru the reset password bullshit and now twitter is saying my account is locked for too many failed logins
15:00 < miniMerc> this is the second time twitter has done this shit to me
15:01 < ware> bcuz u fail @twitter
15:01 < miniMerc> obviously so
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15:06 < ware> question for yall, is there a pci card version of iLO other than the KVM advanced card thing
15:06 < ware> the need is to have bios level remote access to a machine
15:06 < ware> but i told coworker that unless its integrated in the mobo it wont work
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15:07 < [1NF0]_Work> a lot of server boards can give bios access via serial port...
15:07 < ware> cause pci cards are going to be post
15:07 < ware> [1NF0]_Work: needs to be network accessible
15:08 < [1NF0]_Work> ware: make the serial port network accessible then...
15:08 < ware> just like iLO / DRAC
15:08 < Vyrus001> hmmm... i need a way of running vista in a virtualbox vm on an xp system that has 512 ram
15:08 < ware> [1NF0]_Work: an example?
15:09 < ware> Vyrus001: youre f'd. need more physical ram
15:09 < [1NF0]_Work> ware: http://www.connectivity.avocent.com/products/network-based/
15:09 < Vyrus001> ware: lol mobo wont fit anymore
15:09 < Vyrus001> thats the problem
15:09 < [1NF0]_Work> you need a new mobo
15:09 < Vyrus001> its an old p4 microatx
15:09  * sdodson gives up on NFSv4
15:09 < miniMerc> sdodson: get in the 90s, smb
15:10 < Vyrus001> ware: course i could like... aquire the copy of esx we have at work and put it on a blade i got at home and use that
15:11 < ware> [1NF0]_Work: i dont think that will serve up remote desktop like iLO
15:11 < Vyrus001> and just stop running the vms themselvs on my decompile / reversing box
15:11 <@sdodson> miniMerc: no thanks
15:11 < ware> basically need an ipkvm
15:11 < ware> but not spend the money on one
15:11 < ware> i really like the avocent ipkvms tho
15:11 < miniMerc> sdodson: samba <-> samba is sane
15:11 < miniMerc> sdodson: you just dont want to mix it with any actual smb
15:12 <@sdodson> ware: do you need video or just console?
15:12 < ware> video
15:12 <@sdodson> ware: you need ipkvm then
15:13 < ware> i think he was wanting a solution for workstations?
15:13 < ware> im not sure wtf he was talkin about
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15:22 <@Dolemite> bah, kvm is for out of date machines
15:22 <@Dolemite> anything enterprise class from the past several years has built in management consoles
15:26 < ware> youre talking iLO/DRAC, right?
15:28 <@Dolemite> yeah, each manufacturer has their own name for it
15:30 < ware> hrmp
15:30 < ware> 1hr30m left
15:30 < ware> what to do...
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15:30 < ware> HMMM
15:32 < miniMerc> mmm
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15:50 < miniMerc> ok i just got into twitter
15:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> zomg
15:51 < miniMerc> ware: will follow you, currently im getting a "twitter is overloaded!" crap
15:51 < ware> noice
15:52 <@Dagmar> It's the swine flu--it's killing Twitter
15:52 < miniMerc> i think so, yea
15:53 < miniMerc> i think twitter dies evertime someone farts
15:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> miniMerc: you have to notify them that you want the networking plugin... just send them an email with the subject "I'm a netwit" and they'll turn it on
15:54 < miniMerc> honestly i think id rather just twit to myself
15:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time
15:55 < miniMerc> not even the first time today
15:57  * M0j0-j0j0 is trying to skip twitter and wait for something that doesn't sound so girlie.
15:57 < miniMerc> cocker
15:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> MySpace was kinda girlie sounding
15:58 < miniMerc> i just cocked you!
15:58 < miniMerc> did you see my cock yesterday?!
15:58 < miniMerc> im now following oprah's cocks
15:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> don't have such an issue with FaceBook or LinkedIn
15:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> LinkedIn is the best name out of all of them... but it's much more geared toward professional/business use
16:00 <@brimstone> friendface
16:00 <@oddball> I have a linkedin account, but I'm still not sure how I feel about it.
16:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> facespace
16:01 <@brimstone> http://friendface.co.uk
16:01 < miniMerc> mytwit.com
16:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> brimstone: "a great new site for meeting people"
16:02 <@brimstone> it's from IT Crowd
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16:04 < ware>  _   _                    _      _     _
16:04 < ware> | |_| |__   ___ _ __ ___   __ _| |_ _ __(_)_  _| |__   __ _ ___ _   _
16:04 < ware>  ___
16:04 < ware> | __| '_ \ / _ \ '_ ` _ \ / _` | __| '__| \ \/ / '_ \ / _` / __| | |
16:04 < ware> |/ _ \
16:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> nsfw: http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:lBje6qfyiiAJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina_worthy+mytwitbook&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
16:04 < ware> | |_| | | |  __/ | | | | | (_| | |_| |     | |>  <| | | | (_| \__ \ |_|
16:04 < ware> | (_) |
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16:05 < ware> mah bad
16:05 <@Dagmar> That ascii art was broken and in need of aborting
16:05 < ware> agreed
16:05 < ware> woops
16:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> "Vaginas are often thought of as ‘the dark, damp place between a woman’s legs, where we hope nothing goes wrong’."
16:09 < miniMerc> mmm
16:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> ^ this is why social networking and blogging are bad
16:11 <@M0j0-j0j0> you should have to have a license to drive a keyboard because someone should be checking that people who are empowered to express themselves are in control of their mental facilities.
16:11 < ware> this is better
16:11 < ware>                                   _
16:11 < ware> __      _____  ___  ___  ___  ___| |
16:11 < ware> \ \ /\ / / _ \/ _ \/ _ \/ _ \/ _ \ |
16:11 < ware>  \ V  V /  __/  __/  __/  __/  __/_|
16:11 < ware>   \_/\_/ \___|\___|\___|\___|\___(_)
16:11 < ware>                                     
16:12 <@M0j0-j0j0> case in point
16:12 < ware> pffft....
16:12 < ware> <- irc leet.
16:12 < Synx_hm> gvbfffffffffffffffffffffffffff
16:12 < ware> ^^see
16:12 <@M0j0-j0j0> not figlet while intoxicated
16:12 <@Dagmar> Much better that time
16:13 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: that would be "mental faculties"
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16:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: actually, the faculties are within the facility and ware doesn't meet my criteria so automatically fails yours
16:15 < Synx_hm> anyone wana go in with me on a dedicated server from server.lu for $115 (we'd split that in half) xthlon 64 x2 5600+ 6gb ddr2 2x750gb sata (pref raid 1) on an unmanaged 100mbit connection?
16:15 < Synx_hm> plus half the setup fee which is not bad
16:16 <@M0j0-j0j0> thanks, but I'm good
16:16 <@M0j0-j0j0> at least for today
16:17 < Synx_hm> thats really not a bad deal though right
16:17 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: I'm just raggin on ya
16:17  * M0j0-j0j0 hugz 133+ warez
16:18 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: 115/yr?
16:18 < Synx_hm> month
16:18 < miniMerc> lol
16:19 < Synx_hm> actually i want to host my photo gallery on it
16:19 <@M0j0-j0j0> pr0n
16:20 < ware> M0j0-j0j0: i gn0ez
16:20 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: but seriously... no drunk figlet
16:22 < miniMerc> ya ware
16:23 < ware> yah ware
16:23 < ware> srs
16:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: besides... why use figlet when toilet does irc colors
16:28 < ware> dunno
16:28 < ware> never heard of toilet
16:28 <@brimstone> server.lu?
16:28 < ware> la la la la la
16:29 <@brimstone> wait, 57/mo, n/m
16:29 <@brimstone> i don't need it that bad
16:43 <@sdodson> Synx_hm: ever heard of flickr.com ?
16:43 < Synx_hm> ya it sucks and ive got a pay account
16:43 <@sdodson> Running your own servers is part of a natural progression from running your site on geocities, to running your own crap, to realizing you've got better shit to waste your time on.
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16:52 < Synx_hm> brim http://www.server.lu/dedicated-overview
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16:53 < Synx_hm> really seems like not a bad deal
16:53 < Synx_hm> deal
16:53 < Synx_hm> err
16:53 < Synx_hm> from what i know a lot of people use their stuff as seed box's
16:54 < Synx_hm> but they are really good about keeping people from taking all the bw
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17:00 < miniMerc> k
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17:21 < aestetix> hey
17:21 < aestetix> any suggestions to recover data from an ext3 partition that has had its file allocation table nuked?
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17:21 <@Dagmar> First order of buisness, backup hte filesystem in question with dd
17:22 < aestetix> Dagmar: already done
17:22 <@brimstone> work off the image
17:22 <@Dagmar> ...then basically it amounts to throwing fsck at the thing
17:22 < aestetix> yep
17:22 < aestetix> ok
17:22 <@Dagmar> Most of the time it'll drop pretty strong hints about what it wants if it thinks you need to supply it extra options
17:23 < aestetix> Ok. When it says "Superblock has an invalid ext3 journal" clear or not?
17:23 < aestetix> as in, what is that saying?
17:23 <@Dagmar> Since you've made a backup you can restore, you could clear it
17:23 < aestetix> ok
17:23 <@Dagmar> Basically, if you do that, the last few writes to that filesystem will get tossed out
17:23 <@Dagmar> ...but you may or may not need them
17:24 <@Dagmar> ...and there's generally multiple superblocks
17:24 <@Dagmar> I don't think the journal gets repeated to them tho
17:26 < aestetix> Ok this is just clearing everything
17:26 < aestetix> Let me rephrase: I was dding a disk image to a flash drive, and accidentally set of to this partition
17:26 < aestetix> so it overwrote the first 20 megs
17:26 < aestetix> is fsck.ext3 still a valid option?
17:28 <@Dagmar> Yeah
17:28 <@Dagmar> You're probably going to want to for sure be pointing it at an alternate (latter) superblock
17:28  * miniMerc looks at aestetix 
17:32 < aestetix> yep
17:32 < aestetix> This is gonna be fun
17:32 < aestetix> every inode is fucked up:/
17:33 < miniMerc> dont drink and dd-rive!
17:35 < miniMerc> dont drink and dd your drive?
17:40 < poiupoiu> well, as long as you don't dd with your drive the output. that could end very badly
17:41 < poiupoiu> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of/dev/sda1
17:41 < Synx_hm> oh man this is a pain
17:42 < Synx_hm> i use musicbrainz picard to get the intiial metadata for songs and see if i am missing tracks etc... then i use mp3gain to level all the songs, then use mediamonkey to clean up anything left... then songbird to play on the pc and finally floola to sync to my ipod
17:43 < Synx_hm> not a clean solution :(
17:45 < Synx_hm> brb reboot
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17:47 < aestetix> I assume fsck will work
17:47 < aestetix> if it doesn't, I might break out scalpel :/
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17:52 <@sasquatc4> anyone ever order stuff from dealextreme?
17:52 < Synx_hm> wtf
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17:53 < Synx_hm> how did i install x-chat and x-chat2
17:55 < miniMerc> ?
17:55 < miniMerc> ugaytu has something called xchat-gnome thats some dumbed down thing
17:55 < miniMerc> sasquatc4: i have several friends who are addicted to dealextreme
17:56 < miniMerc> their main hobby seems to be waitingf
17:56 < Synx_hm> wtf does 'This person record requires harvesting?
18:00 <@sasquatc4> hehe, ok, just wanted to make sure it wasnt just me
18:00 < miniMerc> jim lehrer, take me away
18:00 < miniMerc> sasquatc4: apparently it takes forever. then youll get a tracking update from somewhere in new york
18:00 <@sasquatc4> did an order last wednesday, and its still sitting at waiting for supplier, apparently that can take like 2 weeks
18:00 < miniMerc> yeah
18:00 < miniMerc> its all chinese or taiwan or some such
18:01 <@sasquatc4> yea, they are based out of hong kong
18:01 < miniMerc> sasquatc4: expect a month and then you *might* come close
18:01 < miniMerc> i have one friend who always buys toy helicopters from there
18:02 < miniMerc> another just got a little wireless keyboard, which he wasnt very happy with
18:02 <@sasquatc4> ahh, ok, well i ordered a handheld game thing, a memory card and some adapters for it, and a pc game controller
18:02 <@sasquatc4> just eagerly awaiting the handheld, dev work has started and ive got nothing to test on
18:03 < miniMerc> im too impatient for that
18:03 < miniMerc> what game thing?
18:03 <@sasquatc4> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23032
18:03 < miniMerc> interesting
18:04 < miniMerc> i was thinking the gpx32 thing
18:04 < miniMerc> PSP UI ripoff..
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18:04 < miniMerc> cute
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18:06 <@sasquatc4> ahh, yea, most of the people who are starting work on it also did work on the gpx, most of the gpx forums are where the talk is taking place, plus a few dedicated forums
18:07 <@sasquatc4> but its supposed to be just as powerful, and half the price, already plays most of emulators perfect out of the box, just a few slight issues with snes and genesis
18:07 <@sasquatc4> but the guy who did mame for iphone and gpx already started work on porting that too
18:09 < aestetix> well
18:09  * aestetix sighs
18:14 < miniMerc> sasquatc4: cool
18:14 < miniMerc> sasquatc4: yea snes and genesis are kinda required
18:14 < miniMerc> sasquatc4: from what i heard the emus werent good enough on gpx
18:15 < miniMerc> im not into handhelds but i know some ppl who are
18:15 < miniMerc> id love a little handheld emu unit
18:15 < miniMerc> course now i have a dell mini, i think thats good enough :)
18:15 < miniMerc> got zsnes running on it
18:15 < miniMerc> works a treat
18:16 <@sasquatc4> ahh, yea, i just wanted handheld emu, and the snes is supposed to be ok with a little frame skip, and the genesis just has some scanline issues, its more than powerful enough its just the original chinese devs did really quick hacked up ports
18:16 <@sasquatc4> so thats why those arent as good right now
18:16 < miniMerc> nod
18:16 < miniMerc> yeah thatll be a fun toy for ya
18:16 < miniMerc> price is decent too
18:22 < miniMerc> sasquatc4: heh...showed my friend that, he says buy a PSP instead for $50 more and it already has decent mature emus :P
18:22 < miniMerc> course he's an asshole
18:22 < miniMerc> he likes to rain on parades
18:22 < miniMerc> as a devel unit the chinese jobber may be more interesting
18:23 <@Dagmar> Why use finished technology when you can pretend to be cooler by using an incomplete piece of crap
18:23 < miniMerc> no comment
18:29 < Synx_hm> anyone use floola?
18:29 < miniMerc> not if i have anything to say about it
18:32 <@sasquatc4> well its not really incomplete, it is, besides, you dont have to hack it like a psp
18:38 <@Dagmar> So it's complete _and_ it sucsk
18:38 <@sdodson> hi
18:38  * miniMerc rubs sdodson 
18:38 <@sdodson> miniMerc: step the fuck back
18:39 < miniMerc> youll regret this
18:40 <@sasquatc4> not really, its runs everything fine, you just have to tweak a few settings first, but nothing is unplayable on it, just needs a little dev work and its fine, its not like any of the other handhelds ran perfect emulators out of the box
18:41  * miniMerc yawns
18:41 < miniMerc> so tired
18:51 < aestetix> scalpel is almost done running...
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19:44 <@sdodson> http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/018840.html
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20:51 < miniMerc> mommies, angels, cats
20:55 < aestetix> hmm
20:55 < aestetix> ok, this is becoming a huge pain
20:57  * miniMerc comforts aestetix 
20:58 < miniMerc> aestetix: you talked to ballboy lately?
21:04 < aestetix> to who?
22:00 < Synx_hm> i cant deal with this anymore :(
22:00 < Synx_hm> i need to fucking sync my music to my ipod with fucking album art
22:01 < Synx_hm> why does nothing properly support this, this late in the fucking game!!
22:19 <@Dagmar> mp3tag
22:20 <@Dagmar> http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ <-- can do album art tagging properly
22:29 < ware> automagically?
22:30 < Synx_hm> naw my problem is not tagging it, its getting it onto my ipod
22:31 < Synx_hm> floola wont work for some reason, songbird fucking rocks but the ipod addon sucks balls (no album art and it crashes all the time) amarok doesn't do as many cool thigns as songbird but it does sync to ipods damn well, infact i think it even backsyncs ratings and number of plays however it doesn't work in windows :( !!!  i think i may be stuck to booting to ubuntu with amarok to sync to my ipod and just using songbird to listen to my ish
22:32 < Synx_hm> in windows
22:34 <@sdodson> news flash, ipod is hellishly proprietary kthnx
22:34 < Synx_hm> ya but amarok has got it down and its opensource
22:34 < Synx_hm> just doesn't work in windows :(
22:34 < Synx_hm> well they say it sorta works but i cant get it to run on vista
22:35 < Synx_hm> i might try foobar though with the ipod plugin
22:35 <@sdodson> i'm sort of surprised amarok doesn't work in windows
22:36 <@sdodson> http://windows.kde.org/  includes amarok for windows
22:36 <@sdodson> dunno if it works though
22:37 < Synx_hm> yup its not in the latest build of kde for windows and in the old build i only get errors :(
22:37 < Synx_hm> oh well ill fiigure i good way to do this at some point
22:37 < Synx_hm> but for now i am going to bed
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23:49 < miniMerc> balls
23:49 < miniMerc> wrong window
23:49 < miniMerc> hi Peaches1984
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