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01:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> bsg = not worth watching
01:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> completely disappointed
01:11 <@m0j0-j0j0> they must have assumed they had a 5th session and then had to cut the entire thing short
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01:24 <@jb7od> pass me them thangs, let's get em!
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02:17 <@polerin> DCFC and PS are crap ...  horrible music :P
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03:22 <@polerin> http://nationalpriorities.org/local_cost_of_war_april_2009   |   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_insurgent_fatality_reports_in_Iraq
03:22 <@polerin> Grand total: 18,551-24,049 insurgent dead    |   total war funding approved to date   $830,200,000,000
03:22 <@polerin> even assuming 24,049
03:23 <@polerin> that is 34,521,185 per insurgent.
03:24 <@polerin> is this what we should be spending our money on?
03:26 <@polerin> mmph I believe the money is for both afghanistan, so lets be ...generous and say there were that many insurgants killed in afghanistan too
03:26 <@polerin> so divide it in half
03:26 <@polerin> still 17.25 million per insurgent.
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07:22 <@brimstone> polerin: i could only hope my adversaries spend even close to that on my demise
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07:58 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:59 <@brimstone> polerin: another way to look at it is at 306,301,000 people in the US, that's roughly $2700 to keep each one safe
08:12 <@oddball> spent over the corse of, what, 8 years now?
08:12 <@brimstone> yup
08:12 <@oddball> s/corse/course
08:12 <@brimstone> "Since 2001"
08:15 < ware> yah
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08:53 <@dc0de> @ the ATL Airport.... waiting for my flight to San Diego.
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08:58 < Falun> dc0de: don't get swine flu... and don't bring it back either
09:06 <@sdodson> dc0de: i think you meant "At #ATLAirport.... waiting for my flight to #SanDiego"
09:07 <@brimstone> #waiting for #my flight
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09:08 < ware> #if #youre #leet #you #hashtag #everything
09:08 <@brimstone> ##i ##even ##tag ##my ##tags
09:09 <@sdodson> @ware suck #deeznutz
09:11 <@sdodson> @ware yes?
09:13 < ware> @sdodson no, @brimstone #said he was gonna -o you on #irc and +o me
09:14  * brimstone sets modes +o ware
09:14  * Dolemite sets mode +hug brimstone
09:14 <@Dolemite> pwned!
09:14 <@sdodson> on #cock
09:15  * brimstone starts hugging at random
09:15  * brimstone hugs Dolemite
09:15  * brimstone hugs sdodson
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09:15 <@Dolemite> enough of that!
09:15 <@brimstone> :(
09:15 <@Dolemite> http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090427/NEWS01/904270327
09:15 <@Dolemite> The NotKids were part of this yesterday...
09:15 < ware> weee
09:16  * TheLightCosine sets mode +hug brimstone 
09:16  * brimstone hugs TheLightCosine
09:16  * brimstone hugs ware
09:16  * Dolemite sets mode +oldman Dolemite
09:16  * brimstone hugs Dolemite for kicks
09:16 <@Dolemite> GET OFF MY LAWN!@$!@#%$
09:16 <@brimstone> dude in another channel just says goml now
09:17 <@Dolemite> that's way too hip for an old man
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09:29 <@TheLightCosine> /names
09:29 <@TheLightCosine> d'oh
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10:17 < ware> Disc Golf @ 7 Oaks park Wednesday 1130am
10:53 <@Dolemite> Disc Golf!@$!@?  WTF!
10:53 <@Dolemite> ware : http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/09/23/110-frisbee-sports/
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10:53 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
10:53 <@sdodson> What does AMC mean in the context of purchasing and finance?
10:53 <@Dolemite> nacho smurf
10:53 < ware> <- white person
10:54 < ware> and disc golf != ultimate frisbee
10:54 <@Dolemite> If you look a little closer, you will see some surprising things.  First, you will never see hippies get more upset than on an Ultimate Frisbee field.  It can be jarring to see people who look like they should be playing acoustic guitars yelling at each other about whether or not Blake stepped out of bounds.  Secondly, you will notice that Ultimate Frisbee matches are the best place to meet white guys who wear headbands.
10:55 <@Dolemite> In addition, white people have also created a sport called Frisbee Golf.  In this game, you see how many throws it takes to get a disc into a receptacle. There is no other pertinent information about this sport, and it.s only real value is as a cheap date for white people who like to be outside.
10:55 < ware> i can read the article
10:55 < ware> its retarded just like the rest of his articles
10:55 <@Dolemite> hits a little too close to home, I see ;)
10:56 < ware> its inaccurate and retarded
10:56 <@nachoguy> what's shaking Big pimpin?
10:56 <@Dolemite> not too much, just getting ready to go grab some luncheez
10:56 < eryc> disc golf is fun
10:57 < eryc> PDGA > PGA
10:57 <@Dolemite> took the young'un to "A Day Out With Thomas" down in Chattanooga on Saturday...  he got to see Sir Topham Hatt and ride Thomas the Tank Engine
10:57 < ware> see!
10:57 <@Dolemite> w00t
10:57 < ware> oonly people who cant throw a frisbee worth a damn say frisbee sports are stupid
10:57 <@Dolemite> ware : You are really in a low place when you look to validation from eryc
10:58 < ware> i dont need his validation, the point being that there are others who agree that the article is stupid and inaccurate
10:58 < eryc> at least we're not old and driving mini vans to see pretend train people
10:58 <@Dolemite> eryc : I don't have a minivan.  The rest of your statement, however, was accurate.
10:59 < ware> pretend people ftw++
10:59 < ware> how else would i be a pretend-a-pimp!?
10:59  * ware macs on his h0esz
10:59 <@oddball> Dolemite: No, you have an SUV, the replacement of the minivan.
11:00 < eryc> is it a crossover?
11:00 <@Dolemite> No, it's not a crossover
11:00 < eryc> okay then you have a truck
11:00 < eryc> a crossover is a fancy minivan
11:01 <@Dolemite> However, I'm separated from 98% of SUV owners in that mine has actually driven off of pavement and pulls trailers, often laden with aquatic recreational vehicles.
11:01 < ware> and you never invited me to go fishing on your boat!
11:03 <@oddball> eryc: nah, a crossover is an ugly stationwagon.
11:03 <@Dolemite> ware : I have told you to pick a date in the future and let me know when you want to go and we'll make it happen
11:03 <@Dolemite> I started up the engine last week to make sure that it was working fine
11:03 <@sdodson> I likes crossoverz
11:03 < ware> wooord
11:03 < ware> im going to CO this weekend for a mini vacation
11:03 <@Dolemite> cool
11:04 <@Dolemite> well I have a baby due any day now, so the next 2-3 weeks is pretty much a given for no boating
11:04 <@oddball> Dolemite: I was unaware you went to Vegas with the wife again.
11:05 < ware> gotcha
11:06 <@Dolemite> oddball : Actually, this one was conceived outside of Vegas.
11:06 <@oddball> huh, well, congratz!
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11:06 <@Dolemite> Which is why I got the snipperoo done.  Nowhere was safe, anymore.
11:08 <@sdodson> So when there's another you finally figure out it's someone else's?
11:08 < ware> pops out lookin like Obama
11:08 < ware> id be like wwwttttfffff
11:08 <@Evilpig> I just got word that someone is checking my references today
11:09 <@sdodson> What should I tell 'em?
11:10 <@nachoguy> Sdodson, that pork is always better with a little maple syrup
11:10 <@nachoguy> Piggie, congrats!
11:11  * eryc quarantines Evilpig 
11:11 < eryc> get back swine!
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11:15 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Don't be too hasty, it could be law enforcement checking his references ;)
11:17 <@M0j0-j0j0> you didn't see me do it and you can't prove anything
11:18 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Congrats on migrating the Vanderbilt football team to Chicago.
11:18 <@nachoguy> Dole, yeah I heard, we'll see what happens in the fall though
11:20 <@sdodson> Dolemite: why's your rhn stuff go down everyday?
11:21 < Irongeek> Any other good cons I should hit up this summer? Something I can drive to so Defcon is out. I'm in the Louiisville Ky area.
11:23 <@Dolemite> sdodson : Because RedHat is teh suck!
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11:26 <@sdodson> Dolemite: wrong answer!
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11:40 <@Evilpig> just heard from my second reference....
11:42 <@nachoguy> sweet!  what kind of a place is it that's stalking you?
11:45 <@M0j0-j0j0> nachoguy: people don't check references if they aren't seriously considering a candidate
11:45 <@M0j0-j0j0> it's always funny when people lie on references and education to me
11:46 <@nachoguy> MJ, exactly, so that's why I'm asking what kind of company is probably hiring piggie
11:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> nachoguy: the best is the answer we get on the test.. people that claim to have redhat certs answering questions like "what is your favorite linux shell?" with answers like "oyster" or "conch"
11:48 <@rhia> hehehe
11:48 <@ShadowHntr> lol
11:49 <@nachoguy> hah, nice
11:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> it always makes me think of the "there is an elephant in the way" physics answer
11:50 <@nachoguy> I was on an interview where they ran out of questions, and decided to see if I'd flinch by asking stupid questions.  "what's your favorite color?" "kittens or unicorns?"
11:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> http://beconfused.com/images/2007/01/no-there-is-an-elephant-in-the-way.jpg
11:51 <@TheLightCosine> M0j0-j0j0:  you actually ask ppl what their favorite shell is?
11:51 <@TheLightCosine> lol
11:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: we aren't trying to find out if they are kernel hackers, just general knowledge stuff.. basic SQL and linux stuff
11:52  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
11:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> a little PHP and little Perl
11:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> some XMl
11:52 <@TheLightCosine> heh
11:53 <@TheLightCosine> to be honest my answer would be "Who sues anything but bash?"
11:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> we have someone trying to pawn work off on my group because she says that her staff can't read xml
11:53 <@nachoguy> TLC, a lot of old sun/hpux people only use Korn
11:53 < aestetix> ...
11:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> I used to love csh
11:54 <@TheLightCosine> nachoguy: yeah it was more a statement on my own ignorance than the actual shell =P
11:54 <@TheLightCosine> i.e. i only know how to use bash
11:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> I don't think bash was around when I used csh
11:55 <@TheLightCosine> and wtf do you mean "can't read xml" ?
11:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: that was what I said
11:55 <@nachoguy> TLC, you'd get around fine for the most part.  The syntax is a bit different, the way variables are handled is slightly different IIRC, but for the most part, it's pretty close to bash
11:56 < aestetix> Does it have tab completion?
11:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> told her if she wanted the process automated I would have someone write her a script, but if she insists that the work be done by hand she'll have to have her guys figure out how to read it
11:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> aestetix: yeah
11:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> aestetix: that is the reason I started using it in the first place
11:57 <@TheLightCosine> um, it's just a freaking markup language
11:57 <@TheLightCosine> how can they not figure it out?
11:58 <@TheLightCosine> LISP, now that's confusing to read
11:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: it's an interactive company which means we have 50% of the staff that is technically capable and 50% that we continually wonder why they don't learn something about technology
11:58 <@TheLightCosine> heh
11:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: closure much
11:59 <@TheLightCosine> ?
11:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: LISP is all about a closure
12:00 <@TheLightCosine> it doesn't even look like code to me
12:00 <@TheLightCosine> it looks like what computers must dream in
12:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: besides.. perl can be really hard to read for newcomers too
12:00 <@TheLightCosine> eh, I think that's really more dependant on the writer of the code though
12:01 <@M0j0-j0j0> perl if done (in)correctly can look like ascii art
12:01 <@TheLightCosine> sure
12:01 <@TheLightCosine> obfuscations
12:01 <@TheLightCosine> they're big on perlmonks
12:01 <@M0j0-j0j0> ACME::Bleach
12:01  * TheLightCosine used to hang out on perlmonks
12:02 <@TheLightCosine> time to head homer
12:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> take care
12:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: and fwiw, if computers dream, they no doubt dream in LISP
12:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> I read a fictional book many many years ago called 'ME' about one of the AI designed for international espionage.
12:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> if was about the time they had started talking about the G operating system which never came to light (that I know of unless it is now called OSX)
12:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> how did all the cool things we had focus on back then get lost in this sea of banner ads and streaming live webcams
12:09  * M0j0-j0j0 starts writing a book entitled 'From Gopher to GoogleAPI and back again'
12:33  * sdodson pirates said book
12:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: with a title like that I'm sure it would be online free before it could be printed
12:47 <@M0j0-j0j0> it seems to me that in the realist world the maximum price you can stick on IP is proportional to the amount of effort you put into securing your IP in the first place.
12:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> All the people/companies that use RH don't pay for support.
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13:13 <@Catonic> holy wow...
13:14 <@Catonic> I just looked at an old picture... damn...
13:17 <@Catonic> http://catonic.us/wigi/pics/dayton/tn/IMG_0502.JPG.html vs http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs037.snc1/3305_565126659686_20514777_32933207_2192591_n.jpg
13:19 < ware> hahaha
13:19 < ware> you were getting more hoez back then than you are today!
13:19 <@TheLightCosine> grr
13:20 <@TheLightCosine> this stupid wrt router is giving out on me
13:20 <@Catonic> ware: I realized something the other day...
13:20 <@Catonic> I don't have a lot to bitch about... I pretty much got started at the top of the food chain...
13:20 <@Catonic> *cough*
13:23 < ware> what does you mean?
13:24 < ware> oh having the hoes then already
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13:31  * fie gives gratuitous amounts of sex to the room.
13:33  * ware rejects it and keeps the expensive jewelry
13:34 <@Dolemite> ware : You'll make an excellent cougar one day.
13:36 < ware> :D thnx
13:40 <@Catonic> I'm selling t-shirts. They say "cougarbait". who wants one?
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13:45 < Falun> Catonic: is it better than the ones already out there?
13:47 <@Catonic> dammiot!
13:47 <@Catonic> In all honesty, I don't like cougars
13:47 <@Catonic> would I fuck one... maybe.... but... most of them want relationships, which leads to uncomfortable moments.
13:49 <@Catonic> http://www.hulu.com/watch/57940/saturday-night-live-cougar-den <- like when the "boyfriends" are introduced...
13:49  * ware lubz relationshitz
13:50 <@Catonic> what ware leaves behind in irc, I leave behind in relationships...
13:51 <@Catonic> there's not a girl I've gone out with who will talk to me today...
13:51 <@Catonic> scortched earth =)
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14:10 <@Dolemite> Catonic : I thought Electra still wanted to talk to you
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14:13 < ware> WOW WHO TEH FUCK WAS THAT
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14:14 <@ShadowHntr> BAD xchat !
14:14 <@ShadowHntr> :P
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14:15 < Traveler8> dolemite likes rapedolemite likes rapedolemite likes rapedolemite likes rapedolemite likes rape
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14:15 <@brimstone> stuck on loop
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14:15 <@ShadowHntr> thank you
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14:24 <@Dolemite> no clue what that's about
14:25 < ware> wut did u do Dolemite
14:29 < ware> LOLPIGAIDS
14:30 < ware> i wonder if the mexicans are pigfuckers
14:30  * polerin sighs.
14:30 < ware> HERE COMES THE RANT
14:30  * ware gets ready
14:31 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you're the cattle-fucker, remember?
14:31 < ware> nope, cant say that i have ever had that pleasure
14:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Of course you can't say.  You've learned not to.
14:32 < ware> cant say because i havent had that pleasure, not because i dont want to share
14:33 < ware> im all about truthful full disclosure
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14:38 < aestetix> According to CNN there's a resurgence in pseudo-intellectual freemarket capitalist pawns
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14:46 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: more likely they're just coming out of the woodwork
14:47 <@Corydon76-dig> After all, a good many talking heads have pronounced the free market as disproven
14:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Unfortunately for them, they're left to either argue that it's disproven or that it's a radical, untested idea
14:48 < aestetix> http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/04/27/ayn.rand.atlas.shrugged/index.html
14:48 < aestetix> I'm referring to this article
14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, those idiots get trotted out for every recession
14:49 < ware> free market is not 'hey im gonna start a business and if it doesnt work ill get a bailout' tho
14:49 < ware> which seems like of people think it is
14:50 <@Corydon76-dig> The free market needs regulation to work properly
14:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Or more specificly, the free market depends upon perfect information.  If you let people lie, the market doesn't work
14:51 < fie> Of all the different opinions one thing everyone agrees on is that everything should be their way all of the time ever.
14:52 <@Corydon76-dig> And one thing that people agree on is if the lies did not propagate on the various financial instruments, we would not be in the current mess
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14:54 <@polerin> oddball: ping
14:55 <@oddball> pong
14:55 <@polerin> http://tinycatpants.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/were-number-2-were-number-9-when-it-comes-to-danger-we-think-its-mighty-fine/
14:55 <@polerin> she says it better than I can ;p
14:58 < eryc> i'm glad my link the other day propagated well among the nashville folk
14:59 <@polerin> eryc: which was that?
14:59 < fall0ut> what link was that?
14:59 < eryc> the forbes link
14:59 < ware> im glad i shaved my balls yesterday
14:59 <@polerin> don't remeber it off the top of my head
14:59 < eryc> its the article that blog is referencing
14:59 <@polerin> ware: I'm sure there's someone down at your local bar that would be glad with you, but I really don't care :P
15:00 < aestetix> oh wow
15:00 < ware> you dont care but youre glad with me?
15:00 < aestetix> Jason Scott's latest project: archiving Geocities
15:00 <@oddball> polerin: I'll agree with her that it's... distressing... that both Memphis and Nashville are in the top 10 most dangerous cities of the US, but I'm not sure what she's saying her stance on guns is.
15:01 <@polerin> oddball: That who the hell are we to take away guns from someone in the most violent cities in the US.
15:01 <@oddball> That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't real sure.
15:02 <@polerin> even though it might not be a choice that she (or I) would make, she feels she has no right to say they can't have 'em
15:02 <@oddball> I may have to make sure the head of the TFA knows about this.  It's always good to show that not all Dems are anti-gun whackos.
15:03 <@polerin> most aren't.
15:03 < eryc> philly, jersey, and dc have strict gun laws and they're doin better than tennessee
15:03 < eryc> maybe there's something to it
15:03 < eryc> if you need a gun, go live in the burbs
15:03 <@oddball> That may be true, but, unfortunately, a large portion of those that make it into elected offices are.
15:03 <@polerin> eryc: they also aren't controlled by uber-conservatives who strip social programs
15:03 <@polerin> oddball: not in tennessee :P
15:04 <@polerin> "I don't want guns in bars" doesn't make someone an anti-gun whacko ;P
15:04 <@oddball> You're right, it doesn't.
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15:05 <@polerin> actually speaking of which, lissa and I have been talking about getting a pistol for target shooting
15:05 < eryc> would that target be in the shape of a person?
15:05 <@polerin> no, not genrally.
15:05 <@polerin> generally even
15:05 < eryc> generally they are
15:06 < eryc> handguns are not accurate
15:06 <@oddball> polerin: well, you know I'd be happy to help you guys look for one.  You have anything in mind, or still in the "uh, something that goes bang" category?
15:06 < eryc> if you want to improve accuracy use a rifle
15:06 <@polerin> eryc: ... we aren't looking to shoot anyone.
15:06 <@polerin> this is something for sport and enjoyment.
15:06 < eryc> they use rifles in the olympics
15:06 <@polerin> our house is NOT laid out well for firearms use in defense
15:07 <@oddball> eryc: There are a lot of folks that shoot square or circular marksmanship targets with pistols.
15:07 < eryc> not much sport in handguns
15:07 <@polerin> yes, and pistols can be fun too :P
15:07 <@oddball> eryc: You obviously no not a damn thing about what you're talking about, so stop.
15:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> <insert fart joke here>
15:07 <@polerin> oddball: Prolly a 9
15:07 <@oddball> s/no/know
15:07 <@polerin> eryc: we'll likely pick up a rifle eventually, but lissa likes shooting handguns more
15:08 <@polerin> even though she's a far better shot than I with a rifle
15:08 < eryc> get a bb gun, its cheaper
15:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> and travel with it
15:08 <@polerin> course, that could be because the majority of rounds I've shot with a rifle is with oddballs Nagant.  silly thing curves left XD
15:09 <@polerin> eryc: that sorta misses the point of the "goes bang and jumps in your hand"
15:09 <@oddball> That's just because that's how you react when it smacks you in the shoulder.
15:09 <@polerin> oddball: nah. I held it pretty tight, and didn't have accuracy problems with other rifles
15:10 < eryc> polerin: okay, get a bb gun and a dildo
15:10 <@polerin> got plenty of the second, no interest in the first.
15:10 < eryc> handguns are stupid
15:10 <@oddball> Of course, right now is not the best time in the world to buy a pistol... or ammo for that matter.
15:11 <@polerin> heh
15:11 <@polerin> I'm not going to do it right now, it'd be about 3-4 months at a minimum
15:11 <@polerin> we are just sorta bouncing the idea around
15:11 <@M0j0-j0j0> eryc: handguns aren't stupid... people are stupid.
15:11 < eryc> and people with handguns are more stupid
15:11 <@oddball> Ok, cool.  Hopefully the ammo supply will have recovered by then.
15:12 < eryc> if you're in a place that is so dangerous you need to carry a handgun.. MAYBE YOU SHOULDNT BE THERE
15:12 <@polerin> if not, I'll put it off.
15:12 <@polerin> eryc: jeesus you really don't listen at all do you :P
15:12 <@polerin> we aren't carrying it for self defense
15:12 < eryc> you're contributing to a problem
15:13 <@polerin> I have numerous tactical issues with handguns as a self defense stratagy
15:13 <@brimstone> ooh i wanna help with the problem!
15:13 <@polerin> I wouldn't be CARRYING it
15:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> eryc: maybe they shouldn't always have ever con in an area that people need to be packing in.
15:13 < eryc> get a rifle
15:13 <@polerin> it would be at home locked up, or at the range killing paper.
15:13 <@ShadowHntr> i'm tired of hearing all the gun nuts with their "sky is falling obama" crap
15:13 <@ShadowHntr> :P
15:14 <@oddball> Of course, if you guys just want a range toy, you might want to think about picking up a .22 instead.  The guns tend to be half the price, and the ammo's a hell of a lot cheaper too.
15:14 <@brimstone> why have a gun if you don't intent on killing something?
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15:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> ShadowHntr: I figure the gun freaks are good for the economy
15:14 < eryc> apparently there is some excitement in things that go bang
15:14 < eryc> which is the dumbest thing ive heard all month
15:14 < Irongeek> My 7.62x39 ammo has just about doubled in price.
15:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> eryc: you don't like fireworks?
15:15 <@polerin> eryc: aaaaaaand I care what your opinion of my passtime is?
15:15 <@oddball> brimstone: well, for me, there's the historical value of several of the guns that I have, the stress relief in shooting paper, and the skill factor involved in shooting accurately.
15:15 <@polerin> brimstone: ^^  I like things that go bang, and I can defend myself in other ways
15:16 <@oddball> There's also the geek factor of the mechanics of the weapons themselves.
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15:17 <@polerin> eryc: I like knowing how to do things, this is one of the things that I enjoy knowing how to do.
15:17 < eryc> years after handguns are banned.. you'll be just like the people who don't like to wear a seatbelt
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15:18 <@polerin> eryc: because I like to shoot paper?   :P
15:18 <@polerin> as I said, this isn't about defense or violence.
15:18 <@M0j0-j0j0> guns are like spandex, not everyone should have it, less should actually use it.  Someone could get hurt but at the end of the day it's your right to do what you think is best.
15:18 <@polerin> I know how to kill people with my hands, I don't do so.
15:19 < eryc> if your goal is to shoot paper why not get a gun that was built for that purpose
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15:19 < eryc> like a bb gun
15:19 <@M0j0-j0j0> polerin: we're going to have your hands removed just in case
15:19 <@polerin> M0j0-j0j0: I can do it with feet too, it's just more of a pain in the ass ;P
15:19 <@ShadowHntr> let's remove his ass too
15:19 <@Corydon76-dig> HER ass
15:20 <@polerin> ShadowHntr: scusemewhat?
15:20 <@M0j0-j0j0> and feet
15:20 <@polerin> Stay offa mah ass !
15:20 <@Corydon76-dig> but you got such a nice ass
15:21 <@polerin> It's spoken for
15:21 <@polerin> heh
15:23 <@M0j0-j0j0> like Cornhoolio, her bunghole gets spoken for.
15:23 <@M0j0-j0j0> Are you threatening me?
15:24 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/i-can-has-cheezburger
15:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> lolz
15:27 <@polerin> that's wrong :P
15:27 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: I think it's finally a good substitute for lolcats
15:27  * M0j0-j0j0 shoots polerin's cheezburger.
15:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> doesn't anyone remember an animated movie in the early 80s that had (I think) a stuffed bear that goes on some adventure to find true happiness only to be enslaved and put to work chopping trees but eventually ends up being some kids christmas present?
15:48 <@Dolemite> dude, I wish I had access to that kind of drug in the 80s
15:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: it was on HBO
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15:49 <@Dolemite> Well there ya go.  My parents refused to pay for cable.
15:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> running at the same time they first ran The Last Unicorn
15:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> it was cheaper than a babysitter
15:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> single parent
16:02 < Synx_hm> how long does it take for poison ivy to wear off?
16:02 < Synx_hm> i cant tell if ive got that or a billion bug bites
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16:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Synx_hm: is it a continuous rash or a bunch of individual bumps?
16:03 < Synx_hm> Corydon76-dig, ton of individual bumps only have a small very dark portion of rash on my leg but it doesn't itch too bad
16:03 < Synx_hm> but my fucking legs are covered in bumps
16:04 <@Corydon76-dig> It's probably bugs, then
16:04 <@Dolemite> heh, I just computed the estimated power bill for a new set of storage that we're ordering...
16:04 < Synx_hm> some super agressive mosquitoes
16:04 <@Dolemite> will cost us about $77,000 per year.  who can guess the size of the storage?
16:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Synx_hm: go see a doctor; it could be something more serious
16:04 < Synx_hm> got me though my pants and shirt and gloves
16:04 < Synx_hm> ya i may have to
16:04 <@Dolemite> it's all Tier 1, RAID 5, by the way
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16:06 <@sdodson> Dolemite: 3-5TB at most
16:06 <@Dolemite> Synx_hm : Go to Walgreen's and buy some Tecnu Medicated Wash.  It will wash off the oil that causes poison ivy & oak to give you a rash - that will be the best way to isolate it.  The oils from poison ivy can continue to give you a rash for up to a year
16:06 < Synx_hm> oh shit
16:06 <@Dolemite> sdodson : Oh come on, that is EPIC FAIL for an answer
16:06 < Synx_hm> ok didn't know that thanks dol
16:07 <@sdodson> Wait $77k/yr? 80TB?
16:07 <@sdodson> I was thinking $77k one time
16:07 <@Dolemite> like if you handle poison ivy and then grab a shovel handle, the oil will stick to it and then every time you grab the shovel you can get your hands coverd in it again
16:08 <@Dolemite> sdodson : Nah, 80TB doesn't use that much power :P
16:08 < Synx_hm> oh that sucks
16:08 <@sdodson> Dolemite: Tell us zee answer
16:08 <@Dolemite> 750TB
16:08 < Synx_hm> i am sure its all over my clothes then
16:08 < Synx_hm> Dolemite,  i was crawling in it for sure, can i just wash my clothes?
16:08 <@sdodson> power? lame
16:08 <@sdodson> Dolemite: 2.5" spindles?
16:08 <@Dolemite> Your clothes have to be washed on hot
16:08 < Synx_hm> cool
16:08 < Synx_hm> leather boots hehe?
16:08 < Synx_hm> :(
16:09 <@Dolemite> No, I'm pretty sure they're 3.5"
16:09 <@sdodson> I hear the hotness these days is 2.5" spindles
16:09 <@Dolemite> doh!  time to go home!
16:09 <@sdodson> moar spindles = moar iops
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16:30 < ware> http://swipelife.com/2009/04/27/lofted-forest-home-by-rover-harvey-oshatz/
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16:40 < aestetix> Hey, paulproteus might be moving to Atlanta soon
16:40 < aestetix> figured some people here could introduce him to teh scene there
16:40 < ware> its a trap
17:08 < sung> the "scene" in atl ?
17:21 <@M0j0-j0j0> the seen in the dirty dirty
17:21 <@sdodson> aestetix: who is that?
17:22 < aestetix> A friend of mine from noisebridge
17:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> zomg
17:22 < aestetix> He teaches a python class and a few other things
17:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> snake charming
17:24 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: what you saying?
17:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> zpl0itz yer pythonical war3z st@ck
17:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> inorite
17:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: what I'm saying is that I'm on pager duty this week so I can't go to the gym so I'm going to be ware instead.
17:26 <@sdodson> uhok
17:27 <@sdodson> why on earth does pager duty keep you from going to the gym?
17:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> 5 minute chain
17:28 <@sdodson> 5 minutes to what
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17:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> 5 minutes to acknowledge the page and let them know that you're working on the issue
17:29 <@M0j0-j0j0> newies are a little tweaked out about stuff
17:29 <@sdodson> Seems doable.
17:29 <@sdodson> Do you have another 5 minutes until you're officially working on it?
17:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> the SLA says 5.. generally if it isn't important you won't hear about it so long as you ack before 15, but if it is important you'll get talked to about it
17:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> they assume you're working on it when you ack
17:31 <@M0j0-j0j0> assumption.. the mother of all functions
17:31 <@M0j0-j0j0> no... wait... that's not right
17:31  * sdodson goes for a bike ride
17:31 <@M0j0-j0j0> enjoy
17:32 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'll be here going slowly insane from not being able to do anything
17:32 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: you got a situation going on right now?
17:32 <@M0j0-j0j0> I guess that isn't totally true.. I have an air card so.. I could do something
17:32 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: nope
17:33 <@sdodson> right, that sounds reasonable
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17:33 <@sdodson> 5 minutes to ack, another five minutes to get dressed and run out to your car and haxor the gibson
17:33 <@M0j0-j0j0> just has to be something I can walk away from in a minutes notice
17:34 <@sdodson> like a wife
17:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> tee hee
17:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> more like a child
17:35 <@sdodson> but definitely not a heroine habit
17:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> no, think more rape victim.
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18:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> whatever
18:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm going home
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18:12 < eryc> http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft-for-fractional-ownership/CESSNA-400/2008-CESSNA-400/1135606.htm
18:13 <@sdodson> well you can run and you can hide from the trouble that is deep inside
18:24 < eryc> is that another one of your emo songs
18:24 <@sdodson> YES!
18:24 < eryc> is it goog like such great heights
18:24 < eryc> good even
18:24 <@sdodson> http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/M/themadcaddieslyrics/themadcaddiesnoselyrics.htm
18:25 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phskxxRpxD4
18:25 <@sdodson> second link is moar
18:37 < Synx_hm> what do you guys use in windows to securely wipe files?
18:41 < Synx_hm> actually i am just going to format this thing
18:42 < Synx_hm> any suggestions for 0-whiping a drive from windows?
18:42 < Synx_hm> damn it
18:42 < Synx_hm> wiping
18:44 <@brimstone> DBAN
18:47 < Synx_hm> i dont have a kvm setup right now and so id prefer to use an enclosure on a machine i dont want to nuke :(
18:50 <@brimstone> read before you click and you should be ok
18:50 <@brimstone> or, unhook your main drive when you boot DBAN
18:50 <@brimstone> oooh, also
18:52 <@brimstone> http://forum.scottmueller.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=671 Ctrl-F for CMRR HDDerase Utility
18:53 <@brimstone> they end up saying "DBAN it foo"
18:54 < Synx_hm> rgr thanks
19:11 < Synx_hm> damn it
19:11 < Synx_hm> i can never get these usb booting tools to install the MBR correctly on my thumbdrive
19:32 < ware> oh dear
19:32 < ware> friend in CO that im going to see gave my number to a gal
19:32 < ware> so shes been txting me back and forth for the last 15 min
19:32 < ware> adds me on fb and shes moosefaced / gatekeeper size
19:32 < ware> fml
19:35  * Falun tries to remember if Sigourney Weaver was the gatekeeper or the key master... but I'm guessing that's not what you meant?
19:36 < ware> think, keeper of the gate via brute force and meanacing looks
19:36 < ware> ie, titans defensive lineman style
19:36 < ware> 6'7 300lbs
19:36 < ware> rofl
19:37 < Falun> if it's alright with you I'm going stick with sigourney weaver.. also, you need better friends in CO =)
19:38 < ware> aye
19:39 < ware> haha the gal im going to see isnt super cute, but shes very outgoing and upbeat
19:39 < ware> almost to the point of being annoying, but since ill only be there a weekend it should be fun
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20:44 <@brimstone> there is no sigourney weaver, only ZULU
20:46 < [1NF0]> dude..... that's heavy....
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21:11 < dasunt__> Ah, speaking about nuclear power on a vegetarian forum.
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21:12 <@dasunt> Did you know that *gasp* you can find radioactive particles on the beach?
21:12 <@dasunt> Clearly there is something wrong with how nuclear waste is being disposed of.
21:15 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I hear there's this "ore" that's just full of it, riddling the hillsides
21:17 <@dasunt> I still think we need to get rid of that big nuclear fusion reactor in the sky.  Did you know that there was not an environmental impact report done before its creation?
21:26 <@Drag0n> big bright day star BAAAD!!!!
21:27 <@dasunt> We can attack it at night.
21:31 <@dasunt> 5'6" tall, 115 lbs?
21:31 <@dasunt> That's skinny.
21:31 <@dasunt> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/bal/1051835537.html
21:32 <@dasunt> Anyone good at TV pitches?  There's your new fall reality TV show right there.
21:33 < Synx_hm> anyone rent rackspace or pay for a dedicated server?
21:33 <@dasunt> I tried to rent a rack and a few other things for an hour.
21:33 <@dasunt> "Solicitating" is a crime, I discovered.  :(
21:34 < Synx_hm> haha
21:35 <@dasunt> I keed, I keed.
21:41 < Synx_hm> 115$ per month is not bad for athlon 64 x2 5600+ 6gb ram and 2 x 750 sataII 6ip's and one ipv6
21:41 < Synx_hm> oh and on unmanaged 100mbit
21:41 < ware> hi
21:41 < ware> as a kite, flys
21:42 < ware> dreaming up some SEO stuff
21:42 < ware> anyone a professional in that area
21:42 < ware> online marketing / social media clubs / etc
21:44 <@dasunt> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/wdc/1008965722.html
21:44 <@dasunt> ^- Hey, some of you have a chance!
21:50 < astralsin> dasunt: its a guy
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22:07 <@sdodson> dasunt: why you hang out with veggienazis?
22:17 <@jb7od> lol. food politics.
22:18 <@jb7od> i would give a shit if i wasn't also going to die myself... i'll eat an animal like "hold still you fucker!"
22:19 <@jb7od> sure, I may not get eaten, but it's still hakuna matata up this mf.
22:20  * jb7od has PUNK ROCK FOOD POLITICS
22:20 -ChanServ:#se2600- sdodson removed Mercster from the AKICK list.
22:21 <@jb7od> whaoaaa hahah i forgot about that guy.
22:21 <@jb7od> who here ever saw a F.U.C.T. show?
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22:22 <@dasunt> sdodson: Boredom.
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22:23  * miniMerc hugs sdodson in a manly way
22:23 <@brimstone> don't let Dolemite see you
22:23 <@sdodson> he's jealous
22:23 <@brimstone> there will be no hugging when he's around
22:23 < miniMerc> i have enough love for everyone
22:24 < miniMerc> my heart is a big place
22:24 < miniMerc> so is my groin
22:24 < ware> hahaha
22:24 < miniMerc> ware stop trolling me
22:25 < miniMerc> jeez
22:25 < miniMerc> i just got here
22:25 < ware> !!!
22:25 <@jb7od> watch them buttpockets D;
22:25 < miniMerc> sdodson: ill be goodme waves at jb7od
22:25 < miniMerc> whoops
22:25  * miniMerc saves at jb7od 
22:25 < miniMerc> i got a dell mini and sometimes these keys are hell
22:26 <@jb7od> i've only got two fingers on my right hand..
22:26 < miniMerc> it happens
22:27 <@jb7od> it's okay.
22:27 < miniMerc> jb7od: i think i met you at phreaknic
22:27 < miniMerc> i was the bearded guy smoking
22:27 < miniMerc> we talked a few times
22:27 < miniMerc> unless you werent there, in which case i talked to another guy with a hand problem
22:27 <@jb7od> yeah i just sneak around the lobby awhile drinking and leave usually.
22:27 < miniMerc> heh
22:28 < miniMerc> you were cool tho
22:28 <@jb7od> but na that was a fuckin lie about the hand
22:28 < miniMerc> ah ok then
22:28 <@jb7od> i was another stray
22:28 < miniMerc> there was seriously a guy at the last phreaknic with a messed up hand
22:28 < miniMerc> was a decent guy
22:28 <@jb7od> but last year i really wasn't there long
22:28 <@jb7od> yeah- i know a few myself.
22:30 <@jb7od> i've gotten my ass handed to me three years running in the wifirace.
22:30 <@jb7od> i'm like racer x, if it weren't for me...
22:30 < miniMerc> all i know about it is that some kid won it the year before i was there
22:30 < miniMerc> with his wii
22:30 <@jb7od> lol
22:30 < miniMerc> which was enough to make me like "nah, im not doing that"
22:31 < miniMerc> if some kid on his hax0red wii is winning, i sure the fuck aint
22:31 < miniMerc> course i didnt have my mini then!
22:31 <@jb7od> man it's more the good fortune of finding it. we did our losing ass best the first year
22:32 <@jb7od> the other two we didn't even see it
22:32 < miniMerc> heh
22:32 < miniMerc> sure
22:32 <@jb7od> city big, car small.
22:32 < miniMerc> signals invisible to the naked eye
22:32 < miniMerc> thats the biggest bitch
22:33 <@jb7od> got tools for that.
22:34 < miniMerc> brb
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22:43 <@sdodson> geez it sounds like everyone i know had their A/C fail this weekend.
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22:49 < miniMerc> bad timing
22:51 <@sdodson> I think this is just the first time anyone has run theirs this year.
22:51 < miniMerc> yeah, true
22:52 <@sdodson> I think you're supposed to run it like once a month or so just to keep the oil flowing properly
22:52 < miniMerc> the one in my apt just got replaced a year or two ago
22:52 <@sdodson> I know my car tells me to run the A/C weekly even in the winter.
22:52 < miniMerc> sounds burdensome
22:53 <@sdodson> eh, in the car? not so bad, run it anyway to defrost the window
22:54 < fie> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1626/
22:54 < miniMerc> my apt has one of those big under-the-window units, like in hotel rooms
22:54 < miniMerc> because my apt is tiny
22:55 < miniMerc> classic L-style studio thing
22:55 < miniMerc> been using the AC last week or so, its doing fine
22:55 <@sdodson> firefox releasing two security updates in one week is less than reassuring
22:57 < miniMerc> i always took the view that more is better than less when it came to security updates
22:57 < miniMerc> but i just run what my OS hands me these days
22:57 < miniMerc> so i really cant care a damn
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22:58 < miniMerc> im pretty sure this mini ubuntu crap sucks anyway
22:59 < miniMerc> gotta get a flash stick before i can put fedora on
23:04 <@sdodson> I'm biting my tongue for a week or two, but it seems all reports about jaunty are that it's yet another bug ridden release.
23:06 < miniMerc> yo heard of any mini-optimized overlays for fedora?
23:06 < miniMerc> i know there are some kernel diddles
23:07 < miniMerc> s/yo/you
23:07 <@sdodson> eeedora i think
23:07 <@sdodson> i installed F10 to someone's Aspire 1
23:08 < miniMerc> the nice thing about ubuntu remix is, all the keyboard shortcuts/power stuff is already configured
23:09 < miniMerc> no bothersome work required
23:17 <@sdodson> That's cool that they pushed all of those quirks upstream...
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23:35 < miniMerc> bee are bee ONE MORE TIME
23:35 < miniMerc> im working on my irssi config
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