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00:07 < eryc> hm. removed everything from registry->run,startup,services and now vista is much much better
00:15 <@sdodson> eryc: that's cool, let us know when you have another fantastic story like htis one
00:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> someone took their bitchy pills
00:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm off to bed
00:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> peace
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00:21  * Catonic throws random alcoholic beverages at dasunt in a fit of rage
00:22 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: stfu asshole
00:22 <@sdodson> Catonic: stfu asshole
00:22  * Catonic throws random beverages at sdodson 
00:23 <@sdodson> time for bed hope to wake up early
00:23 < eryc> heh
00:23 <@sdodson> eryc: stfu asshole
00:24 < eryc> stfu coil
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00:25  * Catonic beats eryc with the stfucycle
00:25 <@sdodson> eryc: that was uncalled for
00:25 < eryc> haha
00:25 <@sdodson> m17n ?
00:26 <@Catonic> f/13/alabama
00:26 <@sdodson> multilingualization
00:26 <@sdodson> wtffffffffffffff
00:26 <@sdodson> i hate i18n and l17n
00:27 <@sdodson> and b3s
00:27 <@sdodson> I do like v4a
00:28 <@Catonic> you want to do it in the v4a?
00:28 <@sdodson> y1s
00:37 < eryc> i like b5s
00:37 < eryc> and t1ts
00:38 <@sdodson> That'd be t2s d2b a1s
00:38 < eryc> s2u
00:39 < eryc> i a0m n1t d2b
00:39 <@sdodson> k10i
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00:40 < eryc> no p1n i6d
00:59 <@sdodson> hooray jellybeans!
01:10 <@Catonic> mmm jellys
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08:21 <@oddball> always a fun way to wake up on your day off: call from the VP asking you to disable an office manager's account.
08:22 <@I-MOD> nice
08:26 <@oddball> I kind of feel bad for her since she just had a kid a few months back.
08:26 <@oddball> Of course, i think she was pulling bad shit (don't know for sure), so I don't feel too bad.
08:30 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg
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09:28 <@Shadow404> gah, i cant fucking stand people that parse people's reply so you have to read the whole fucking thread to find their fucking comments.
09:29 <@Shadow404> insert comments in the middle of your reply and thats how they respond. Like under a paragraph, the answer a particular question.
09:30 < ware> top posting ftw
09:32 <@critch> www.att.com
09:32 <@Shadow404> exactly and just leave it at that
09:37 <@critch> w
09:37 <@critch> damn sloppy focus
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10:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: those are the experts.  Do as the experts do, or you face not learning anything
10:05 <@Corydon76-dig> inline replies ftw
10:05 <@Corydon76-dig> top posting wastes bandwidth
10:05 <@Corydon76-dig> You might as well send your email WITHOUT the quoted portion
10:09 <@Shadow404> i disagree completely
10:09 <@Corydon76-dig> You disagree with the experts
10:10 <@Corydon76-dig> This explains why you'll always be a cage monkey and not an expert
10:10 <@Shadow404> meh, how do you gather that is the expert way of doing things?
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10:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Because we've been doing it for longer than you've been on the Internet
10:11 <@Shadow404> waste of bandwidth? its a waste of time having to find their replies
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10:11 <@Shadow404> much quicker and more efficient to get their reply and information in top replies
10:12 <@Shadow404> then to have go hunting for that information throughout what i jsut replied with
10:12 <@I-MOD> Corydon76-dig, not to condone Shadow404's point of view, but it sounded like you just said you had to agree with the experts to move up in the world
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10:12 <@Corydon76-dig> It's NOT more efficient.  You stand to lose context if you don't read the replies IN CONTEXT
10:12 <@Shadow404> I-MOD: that was my next point, thx
10:13 <@rhia> depends on how detailed the discussion needs to be, one point, doesn't matter, 5+ varied points, a LOT easier to follow the 'conversation' if answer follows the point in question
10:13 <@Shadow404> meh, i seriously doubt ill lose the context in the period of 3 paragraphs
10:13 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: In the technical world, you follow the experts.  In the sales world, you just fool enough people to make big bucks
10:13 <@Shadow404> rhia: this was 2.5 points max
10:13 <@Shadow404> .5 being yes, i agree with something, and no further discussion
10:14 <@Corydon76-dig> So you can be a cage monkey or a sales droid, not a technical expert
10:14 <@Shadow404> rhia: and thats why you introduce the point your making in context in a top answer format, and to get back to bla bla, i beleive bla bla
10:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: if you're going to do that, you might as well trim the ENTIRE quoted text
10:15 <@critch> ahh, Shadow404 wants to repeat himself
10:15 <@Corydon76-dig> otherwise, you're just wasting bandwidth
10:15 <@rhia> which requires you to expand on the reference first nstead of just replying to it
10:15 <@critch> if you have to repeat information for context, the scrolling down is of more use to a in depth conversation.
10:15 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, i still agree with Corydon76-dig that if you're going top post, why include the original at all? (its like SMS at this point) as far as multiple points, i agree that interleaved replies are better, but IT'S ALL A MATTER OF PREFERENCE (or business practice)
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10:16 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: on the lists where I'm an expert, if I ignore your posts because I think top-posting is uncouth, then you're going to miss out on my expertise
10:16 <@I-MOD> If I top post, I generally trip all but the message I was directly replying to just for context.
10:17 <@Corydon76-dig> You follow the experts because you want to learn from them and NOT piss them off in the process
10:17 <@Shadow404> sounds like elitism
10:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: welcome to the real world
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10:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: conform or perish
10:18 <@critch> Shadow404: do you expect someone to teach you for free if your an ass?
10:18 <@critch> err, you're
10:18 <@I-MOD> bottom/interleaved posting was the rule for a long time
10:18 <@I-MOD> then people who didn't know/care came along
10:19 <@critch> I think Shadow404 is young enough, he came after the sewer spill that was never cleaned up
10:20 <@I-MOD> so did I, but that doesn't make me a top poster
10:21 <@Shadow404> critch: i reather learn myself and rtfm then deal with elitist assholes tbh
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10:21 <@Shadow404> 98% of my emails that clients send me are ALL top post
10:21 <@Shadow404> so 100% of the emails i reply with are top post
10:21 <@critch> volume doesn't make it right
10:22 <@critch> if colume made it right, we could easily move the speed limits up.
10:22 <@I-MOD> damn, you beat me to it
10:22 <@I-MOD> i was just about to cite that exact thing
10:22 <@Shadow404> critch: the only reason we dont move the speed limits up are because the state makes money if speeding fines
10:23 <@Shadow404> but thats an arguement in itself
10:23 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: actually, increasing the speed limits is likely to get rid of a lot of top-posters
10:23 <@critch> Shadow404: not completely true. They also doen't move the limits up because grandpa still has a false sense of entitlement to use the roads. Grandpa's and grandma's account for a large portion of the voting population.
10:24 <@critch> damn my spelling is sucking today
10:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Increase the speed limits, but also add road objects for speedy people to run into
10:24  * I-MOD removes the unnecessary apostrophes
10:24 <@I-MOD> Corydon76-dig is one of those road objects :D
10:25 <@critch> I'd be happier if the damn slow people quite feeling entitled to use left lanes on divided highways. Improper lane usage tickets really need to start coming into vogue
10:25 <@I-MOD> yep
10:25 <@I-MOD> i agree
10:26 <@I-MOD> left lanes are for passing
10:26 <@I-MOD> if you're passing everyone, it's fine to ride in the left lane
10:26 <@I-MOD> if you're doing 10 under, move the fuck over
10:26 <@Shadow404> omg, i hate that, this slow fucking asshole on ramps, merging at seriosly slow dangerous speeds immediately thinks he needs to get into the left lane and cause everyone to slow down to 50 in the left lane
10:26 <@critch> I had a dude flip me off the other day when I flashed him. He was illegally in the HOV lane with large gap in front of him.
10:26 <@Evilpig> I still think that shoudl someone be doing something completely retarded behind the wheel it be legal for me to drag them out of their vehicle at the next light and publicly beat them as an example to the rest of the idiots on the road
10:27 <@I-MOD> we'll call it the stupid tax
10:27 <@Shadow404> i just hate when people merging on immediately punch it for the left lane and are not up to speed yet, or do what exactly i said and never get up to speed and slow eveyrone done that was chugging along in the left lane to begin with
10:28 <@Shadow404> and its more than half the time a minivan
10:28 <@Shadow404> or thats just me being paranoid
10:28 <@Evilpig> I get completely enraged when someone guns it to get in front of me then goes 10 miles under the limit when there was space behind me they could have waited for and putted along all day
10:29 <@rhia> Lexus SUV with FL tags - just get off the road till they're gone
10:29 <@Shadow404> another thing that pisses me off is when people think its alright to turn left from the right lane when they forgot to get in the left lane to begin with and stop all lanes of traffic so he can make his illegal left turn across 3 lanes while almost causing multiple wrecks
10:30 <@Corydon76-dig> That doesn't piss me off nearly as much as someone who top-posts in a thread where multiple levels of inline posting have gone on
10:30 <@Shadow404> im sorry, but if you arent paying attention when you should, then go forward, and go around, dont put people at jeopardy for you stupidity
10:30 <@critch> heh, or there is a section of OHB by my house that is 3 lanes wide. Far right hand lane is for turning. Never fails that people who dive that route everyday decide last minute they need to make the lane change from the left lane, through the center lane to the right lane in the course of 200 yards.
10:32 <@Shadow404> and how many warning signs was there to warn them the lane was ending?
10:33 <@critch> no, it isn't that they want to get out of a lane that ends, it is that they want to turn, and have been on the wrong side of 3 lanes heading to the turn.
10:34 <@Shadow404> of course
10:34 <@Shadow404> oh man, they do that where i live, but dart at the last second from the center lane, across 2 lanes of traffic and punch it for the exit ramp
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10:35 <@Shadow404> this one time, this truck clipped the front bumper of this semi truck and i stopped to file my report as a witness
10:36 <@Shadow404> but before the police car got their the semi driver had this guy pinned against the bed of his truck about to kick his ass, but i think he decided not too as i was there watching going to file my report when the cops arrived
10:36 <@Shadow404> truck driver ended up pleading not guilty so i had to go to court and gave my testimony and they guy got the ticket in the end
10:36 < someninja[HC]> has anyone had problems accessing http://phreaknic.info
10:37 <@Shadow404> yes, still done
10:37 <@Shadow404> *down
10:37 < someninja[HC]> hmm
10:37 <@critch> same with nashville2600.org
10:37 < someninja[HC]> odd
10:37 <@Shadow404> where are they hosted?
10:38 < someninja[HC]> good question
10:38 <@Evilpig> I know where
10:38 <@critch> Dolemite I believe hosts it
10:38 <@Evilpig> i'll tell him now though
10:38 <@Evilpig> I was just talking to him in WoW
10:39 <@Evilpig> [10:39:02] [G] [33:Dolemight]: yeah server rebooted again
10:39 <@Evilpig> [10:39:08] [G] [33:Dolemight]: apache doesn't come back up
10:39 <@critch> hmm, and he doesn't know how to put it back in the init scripts?
10:39 <@Shadow404> haha, nice toon name
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10:40 < ware> Evilpig: lamers
10:40 <@Evilpig> I'm assuming an error kept it from coming up
10:40 < ware> Dolemite: WoW @ work again!?
10:40 <@Evilpig> he's home with sick kid
10:41 < ware> ahh
10:41 < ware> coworker brought his youngin' to work today
10:41 < ware> but shes cool people
10:42 < ware> freakin comcast guy came yesterday and cut the coax for our upstairs connections
10:42 < ware> dunno why still
10:42 <@Evilpig> dolemite said it should be up now
10:43 < someninja[HC]> it is for me
10:44 <@critch> planet is back up
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11:33 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
11:43 <@Dementia> mr0nin
11:43 <@Dolemite> what's shakin?
11:43 < ware> wutup
11:43 < ware> WoWhead
11:43 < ware> you got an 80 yet?
11:43 <@Dementia> just workin'
11:43 <@Dolemite> I've had an 80
11:43 <@Dolemite> I'm working on a druid now
11:43 <@Dolemite> I'm not twinkin' like you, ware.  hahahaha
11:44 < ware> ahh gotcha
11:44 < ware> i twanked my shammy at 39 but havent touched that toon in awhile
11:44 <@Dolemite> you need to create a toon on Detheroc and play with us
11:45 <@Dolemite> as long as you don't twink
11:45 < ware> but my current toon is a 62 shammy and i lubz it
11:45 < ware> i moved off of Malganis awhile back to play with my brother and his friends
11:45 < ware> theres 6-8 in the group that play regularly
11:45 <@Dolemite> I moved mine off of mal'ganis to detheroc
11:46 <@Dolemite> we have a guild composed of only people that know at least one other person IRL
11:46 <@Dolemite> so it's like a 2 degrees of separation guild
11:46 < ware> yep, same with sargeras for us
11:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: your guild is only 3 people?
11:47 <@Dolemite> uh, no...
11:47 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm not sure how you claim only 2 degrees of separation, then
11:47 < ware> friend of a friend?
11:47 <@Dolemite> yep
11:47 <@Dolemite> I know more than one person
11:48 <@Corydon76-dig> If everyone knows at least one other person, you can still get to 6 degrees of separation
11:48 < ware> your point being?
11:48 <@Dolemite> he has none
11:48 <@Dolemite> he's just being Corydon
11:48 < ware> k, cause i was missing something :P
11:48 <@Corydon76-dig> The point is that your 2 degree separation is false
11:49 <@Dolemite> no, I think you have a misguided idea of what that phrase means
11:49 < ware> Corydon76-dig: Fingerprinting for Exchange / SQL db's is not configured
11:49 <@Corydon76-dig> The only way you get to 2 degree separation is if 1 person knows everybody else
11:49 < ware> err
11:49 < ware> 11:46 <@ Dolemite> we have a guild composed of only people that know at least one other person IRL
11:50 <@Dolemite> 1 degree of separation is where one person knows everybody else
11:50 <@Dolemite> all of the officers know each other irl and you have to know an officer irl to get in the guild
11:50 <@Dolemite> that's only 2 degrees
11:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: you start with the leaf to count separation, not at the hub
11:50 <@Dolemite> whatever
11:50 < ware> a b c, a knows b irl, b knows c irl, so a and c have only 2 degrees of seperation
11:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: No, that's 3 degrees
11:51 < ware> Corydon76-dig: you dont even play WoW!
11:51 < ware> :P
11:51 <@Corydon76-dig> From any leaf to any other leaf has a maximum of 3 traversals, hence 3 degrees
11:52 <@Dolemite> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation
11:52 <@ThelightCosine> A knows b =1 degree
11:52 <@ThelightCosine> a knows b, b knows c, a-c = 2 degrees
11:52 <@Catonic> yeah, but..
11:52 <@Dolemite> ThelightCosine : Don't bother, it's like arguing with a mannequin
11:53 <@Catonic> then there's six degrees of sexual seperation
11:53 <@Corydon76-dig> ThelightCosine: and he has an interior ring, so he needs a-b-c-d for some traversals
11:53 <@critch> and if a knows o1, and b knows o2, o1 and o2 know each other, a - o1 - o2 - b is 3 degrees
11:53 <@ThelightCosine> you have to think like there is an imaginary connector between people
11:53 <@ThelightCosine> so yer not counting people, eyr counting connectors
11:53 <@Catonic> sexchat
11:53 <@Catonic> *sexchart
11:53 <@Corydon76-dig> ThelightCosine: correct, and a-b-c-d is 3 degrees
11:53 <@ThelightCosine> right
11:54 <@Dolemite> but if d only knows c, he isn't in the guild
11:54 <@critch> yea, here comes tornadoes round 2
11:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: you're ignoring that both b and c are officers
11:54 <@Dolemite> so as I said, it's a 2 degrees of separation guild
11:54 <@Dementia> critch: tornadoes?
11:54 <@Dolemite> a knows c directly
11:55 <@Dolemite> all officers know each other irl, so there's only 1 degree between them
11:55 <@critch> Dementia: Yeah, the "office" lost 3 trees last time. and now we are under threat again
11:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: and 1 degree between each officer to each leaf node
11:55 <@Dementia> eek
11:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: that's 3 degrees
11:56 <@Dolemite> Only in your mind
11:56 <@Corydon76-dig> L-O-O-L
11:56 <@Dolemite> whatever
11:56 <@Dolemite> I really don't give a shit
11:56 <@critch> Dolemite: do you have more than one officer?
11:56 <@Corydon76-dig> L-O-O-L is 3 degrees.  L-O-L is 2 degrees
11:57 < someninja[HC]> critch: you get your new tires put on your bike
11:58 <@critch> yeah, Went down to APS and they had a tire I could buy and put on the bike
11:59 <@critch> ahh, there goes the sirens
11:59 <@Evilpig> warren didn't make a guild tabard?!  oh we are gonna fix that.  http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Detheroc&n=KHAQQ&p=1
11:59 <@critch> ahh, we went from watch to warning
12:02 < ware> yeah
12:02 < ware> Evilpig: you move to Detheroc too?
12:03 <@Evilpig> I rolled a toon there
12:03 <@Evilpig> I am sending over supplies with mirage when he transfers his hunter
12:03 < ware> gotcha
12:03 <@Catonic> how is mirage doing?
12:03 < ware> are you gonna move Evilpig there/
12:03 <@Evilpig> prolly not
12:03 <@Evilpig> but I will be playing on there more
12:03 <@Catonic> Evilpig is a wow character name?
12:04 < fie_> rock robot rock'
12:04 <@Evilpig> evilpig is just raiding mostly
12:04 < fie_> rock
12:04 < fie_> robot rock
12:04 < fie_> bow de be bow bow
12:04 <@Catonic> fie_: take your meds
12:04 <@Evilpig> Catonic: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Evilpig
12:04 < ware> hrmp, i got a lvl 54 rogue i could transfer
12:05 < ware> but all my WoW time has been spent on the shammy lately
12:05 < ware> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sargeras&n=Lolmadcow
12:06 <@Evilpig> haha lol  http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Sargeras,Mal%27Ganis&n=Lolmadcow,Evilpig
12:06 < ware> :(
12:07 < ware> here comes the rain here
12:08 < ware> here here!
12:08 < fie_> ware, nerd
12:09 < fie_> I win though.
12:09 < fie_> I once installed linux on the way to a pen and paper DnD game
12:09 < ware> http://wow-achievements.com/Person.aspx?region=EU&realm=Aegwynn&name=Zoltan
12:10 < ware> nerd?
12:10 < ware> <- geekk
12:10 < fie_> Only nerds care about the difference between nerds geeks and dorks
12:11 <@ThelightCosine> heh
12:11 < ware> negative
12:11 <@ThelightCosine> i always figured it like this
12:11 < ware> nerds dont get laid
12:11 <@ThelightCosine> nerds are the kind of guys who can ebcome phsysicists or amthematicians
12:11 <@ThelightCosine> people loike Randall from xkcd
12:12 <@ThelightCosine> geeks are people who egt really into subjects that mainstream people don't , like computers, scifi/fatansy, anime etc
12:13 <@Evilpig> ware:  http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Aegwynn,&n=Zoltan
12:14 < ware> ahh eu.wowarmory
12:14 < ware> was wondering why it wasnt workin
12:14 <@ThelightCosine> so i always figured i'd have to be a geek not a nerd, cus i'm not really that smart
12:14 <@ThelightCosine> despite what 'standardised testing' would have you beleive
12:14 < ware> Evilpig: hes about done with em eh? hehe, crazy
12:15 < ware> Evilpig: im freakin excited about my shaman, has made leveling more enjoyable
12:15 < ware> cant wait to get to 80
12:17 <@Dolemite> ware : nerds can't get laid?  You mean married people are nerds?
12:17 < ware> not cant, just usually dont
12:17 <@ThelightCosine> hah
12:17 < ware> was my agrument
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12:18 <@ThelightCosine> that's a logical fallacy Dolemite , i forget which one it is
12:18 <@ThelightCosine> just because A=B does not neccisarily mean that B=A
12:18 <@Dolemite> jokes + math = null
12:18 <@ThelightCosine> tell that to Randall =P
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12:21 <@Dagmar> ThelightCosine: Cool people just fuck and buy their kids from third-world countries.
12:22 <@Shadow404> prescreening ftw
12:25 <@Catonic> ThelightCosine: who'
12:25 <@Catonic> 's randal?
12:25 <@Dolemite> grape sized hail coming down here now
12:25 <@Catonic> I don't know a randall.
12:25 <@Catonic> I know nicknames, not names.
12:26 < ware> youch
12:26 < ware> its clear here by the airport
12:26 < ware> not even raining
12:26 <@Dolemite> I hear them bouncing off of the top of my grill
12:26 <@Dolemite> and I can see them piling up on the deck
12:27 <@Catonic> wait...
12:27 <@Catonic> is BNA ghetto by the airport?
12:27 <@Dagmar> No, it's just a little low-rent over there.
12:28 <@Dolemite> it's a step or two above ghetto
12:28 <@Dagmar> PN's hotel is close to the ghetto
12:32 <@ThelightCosine> Catonic: Randall is the guy who writes xkcd
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12:34 <@Dolemite> He's the exception to the rule
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12:37 <@Catonic> Dagmar: that's what I thought
12:37 <@Catonic> as opposed to Birmingham, where you don't stop to ask directions outside of the airport if you're not on the airport road
12:38 <@Catonic> and then there's huntsville, where there's nothing and madison around the airport -- actually a nice part of town.
12:39 <@Catonic> the local restaurants there feed the working population of the trade-zone factories
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13:10 <@oddball> Looks like I won't be going anywhere for my day off.
13:10  * oddball hides from the tornados.
13:10 < ware> http://nashvillewx.com/
13:12 <@oddball> Looking at the maps, I think I'm safe, but I was made aware of them by the power going out and hail pelting my windows.
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13:16 < ware> http://nashflix.com/
13:17 <@Dolemite> So I lost my free pr0n last night. :(
13:17 <@brimstone> your wife?
13:18 <@Dolemite> I had a 1 month subscription to videobox.com at one point, then cancelled the credit card.  They kept my account active for years without payment.
13:18 <@brimstone> ah
13:18 <@brimstone> there's a laptop mounted on the wall at our hackerspace
13:18 <@brimstone> you can go to it's webpage and upload and queue videos to play
13:19 <@brimstone> it's name is "videobox" and dns wasn't working quite right for a few days
13:19 <@brimstone> firefox tried to help by putting http://www. and .com on the ends
13:19 < ware> Emergency crews reported many houses were 'gone' in the Tomahawk Drive/Sulphur Springs area.
13:19 < ware> Rescuers were looking for an elderly woman whose house was badly damaged in the Riverview Drive area.
13:19 < ware> http://nashflix.com/MediaItemView.aspx?id=86389
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13:36 <@brimstone> Shadow404: ping
13:41 <@Shadow404> whats up
13:41 <@brimstone> is there a multiplayer to hl2 where you can use the gravity gun?
13:44 <@Shadow404> ther is synergy
13:44 <@Shadow404> great game, played countless of hours
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13:54 < Dagmar> Yay comcast
13:59 <@Catonic> man, someone ... did not want to pay the bill yesterday
13:59 <@Shadow404> what happened?
13:59 <@Catonic> I left the apartment and there was 75' of cable tv coax on the ground
14:00 <@Shadow404> nice
14:00 <@Catonic> that or the squirells needed iron in thier diet
14:00 <@Shadow404> did you take the coax?
14:00 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: comcast down?
14:00 <@Catonic> nah, it's probably still out there
14:00 <@Shadow404> my server is fine
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14:08 < Dagmar> Well, if I could traceroute to anywhere from campus I might be able to tell.
14:11 < Dagmar> I can at least be sure my bills are paid
14:13 < Dagmar> The important ones in this case being NES and Comcast, both of which were paid within the last two weeks
14:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: Comcast is fine
14:17 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm going to tell Comcast girlfriend that you're after her man
14:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> alright kids, my boss is kicking me out of the building so I'm headed to the gym
14:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> word to yer momma
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14:31 <@oddball> Dagmar: considering the storms that just went through, electric or cable being out wouldn't be too suprising.
14:31 <@Shadow404> damn, your storms are heading to atlanta right now
14:32 <@Shadow404> about 1 1/2 from now its gonna hit us
14:32 <@Shadow404> or whatever is left over, quit sending us your seconds, i have
14:32 <@Shadow404> (drumkick)
14:32 <@Shadow404> 1 1/2 hours
14:34 <@oddball> if it makes you feel any better, you're missing all the "fun" parts.
14:36 <@Shadow404> whihc part?
14:36 <@oddball> The tornados... probably the hail...
14:36 <@Shadow404> ohhhh, that part, ok
14:36  * Shadow404 gets mind out of the gutter
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14:46 < Dagmar> I think it's safe to say we can shoot this song now.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8qagF31OM
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14:56 <@oddball> NES must be working on some downed lines... power just went out for a minute.
14:57 <@Shadow404> better then no power at all
14:57 <@oddball> yes
15:05 < eryc> top post ftw
15:06 <@Catonic> I keep forgetting that NES is Nashville Electric Service
15:06 <@Catonic> Otherwise, I ponder what a Nintendo has to do with downed powerlines
15:07 < eryc> nintendo power
15:07 <@Catonic> it's that fucking glove.
15:07 <@Catonic> there's a reason why a limited number of them were made.
15:08 <@Catonic> because they are imbued with the power to control electricity, like Magneto controls magnetic objects
15:10 < eryc> exactly
15:11 < eryc> damn sneaky japs
15:12 <@Shadow404> >>exactly
15:12 <@Shadow404> i would of used the word "correct"
15:12 <@Shadow404> >>damn sneaky japs
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15:12 <@Shadow404> now thats just rude
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15:12 <@Shadow404> inline post ftl, see
15:13 <@Evilpig> anyone know of an lvm manager, whatever for gnome?
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15:13 <@Evilpig> well likea gui.  since manager is redundant
15:18 <@Catonic> aestetix: http://www.nickscipio.com/pod/media/2009/04/mickey-goatse-camera.jpg
15:22 <@Shadow404> ok, thats scary
15:25 < ware> at least youre not lookin into the ass
15:26 <@Shadow404> would that make you a proctologist
15:38 < eryc> Shadow404: you didnt respond to "nintendo power" and now that is lost in all further responses
15:38 < eryc> inline = data loss
15:38 < eryc> ftl!
15:39 <@Catonic> lvm director?
15:42 <@Evilpig> I found one.  but turns out I have a bad disk.  
15:42 <@Evilpig> I just went in there and heard the click of death
15:42 <@Evilpig> system-config-lvm worked
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15:44 <@aestetix> why did you pick me to direct that to?
15:45 <@Catonic> aestetix: because you're the person most likely to goatse someone
15:45 < eryc> and aestetix sounds like ass
15:45 < eryc> its all fits
15:45 < eryc> its does
15:46 <@aestetix> Why would I goatse anyone?
15:46 <@Catonic> eryc: a cock fits in an ass, but it doesn't mean it was meant to go there.
15:46 <@Catonic> aestetix: because you hate people and love tinyurl.
15:46 < eryc> i wouldnt know about that
15:46 <@Evilpig> Catonic: a few people in here would say otherwise
15:47 <@Catonic> Evilpig: that's a choice anyone with a cock may make.
15:47 <@Catonic> can make.
15:47 <@Catonic> been writing documentation so long I'm swapping may for can now.
15:48 <@Catonic> If god meant for adam and steve he wouldn't have made eve such and ignorant bitch.
15:48 <@Catonic> *an ignorant
15:49 <@Drag0n`> if god made adam and eve, the jurry is still out on that. so far, no scientific proof has been produced
15:50 <@Evilpig> steve had sexual reassignment surgery to become eve
15:51 <@Catonic> I wonder how they solve the lubrication problem? Take a tear gland here, a saliva gland there and a spare sinus?
15:51  * Catonic grosses himself out too soon after eating
15:52 <@Evilpig> magic!
15:52 <@Drag0n`> well, we know adam was a cross dresser, he and eve shared a fig leaf
15:52 <@Catonic> Drag0n`: are you sure? Perhaps they rolled the fig leaf up and smoked it.
15:53 <@Drag0n`> only when it was no longer green enough to wear
15:53 <@Catonic> then they started tripping balls and talking to snakes
15:53 <@Drag0n`> recycling
15:54 <@Catonic> man made beer, god made pot.
15:55 <@Drag0n`> but man made the bong
15:55 <@Catonic> just think, if we legalized everything, we have a load of depressed, manic suicidal DEA agents with no purpose in life anymore
15:56 <@Drag0n`> nope, they would have plenty to do babysitting the pharma people when they go nuts because they cant control the distribution of pot
15:56 <@Catonic> pure science has suffered so much in the last few decades
15:56 <@Catonic> you can't just hire someone to do pure science, it's all gotta be about profit
15:57 <@Catonic> improving ROI
15:57 <@Drag0n`> you have to refine raw science to get pure sience, its not a natural resource
15:58 <@polerin> anyone here have a non-iphone/blackberry cell with a data plan?
15:58 <@Evilpig> yes
15:58 <@polerin> need someone to test something for me in a few ;P
15:58 <@Evilpig> I have a palm centro
15:58 <@polerin> does that do normal HTML browsing or does it use WML
15:59 <@Evilpig> prolly wml
15:59 <@Evilpig> it's goofy
15:59 <@polerin> ok
15:59 <@polerin> I'll give you a nudge in a min when I'm done
16:00 <@Catonic> nudge nudge, know what i mean?
16:02 <@Evilpig> these people should not call themselves computer people.  because they clearly don't know what this card is for. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?currentTab=summary&productId=2459400&tab=custRatings#showReviews
16:05 <@tzanger> polerin: yep
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16:06 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: What *is* it for then?
16:06 <@Evilpig> high speed temp space
16:06 <@Dagmar> So how is this better than installing more RAM, you know, normally
16:06 < ware> hehe
16:07 <@Evilpig> can't really partition ram out to use as disk space
16:07 <@tzanger> Dagmar: for systems where you can't?
16:07 <@tzanger> Evilpig: you can't?
16:07 <@tzanger> isn't that exactly what a ram disk is?
16:07 <@Dagmar> You can.
16:08 <@Evilpig> mine doesn't support that.  at least not natively
16:08 < ware> i'd think its for high speed reads / writes
16:08 <@Dagmar> There've been ramdisk apps for Windows since WfW 3.11
16:08 <@tzanger> and before then for dos, with ramdisk.sys
16:09 < ware> http://techreport.com/articles.x/9312
16:12 <@Dagmar> Literacy has reached a new low
16:12 <@Dagmar> CNN says Obama's critics are calling him a fascist
16:12 <@Dagmar> Including Glenn Beck
16:13 <@Dagmar> Reeee-tards.
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16:27 <@Drag0n`> indicating they have NO idea what a fascist is <g>
16:27 <@Evilpig> tzanger: I can't because I have 2GB of ram under xp.  I use it all when I fire up wow. 
16:28 <@Evilpig> if I could register 16GB of ram and use 12 of it for a virtual drive then good
16:30 <@Dagmar> You know that little card tops out at 4Gb, right?
16:30 <@Dagmar> . o O (Why yes, it is a steaming piece of shit.)
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16:31 <@Evilpig> yes it is.  but it still has a use
16:34 <@Dagmar> It's for putting on a purchase-order when a managerial type insists he knows damn well how the internets should work and that a cache drive will run fastere
16:34 <@Dagmar> r
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16:58 <@Dagmar> http://notalwaysright.com/someones-about-to-get-smacked-to-the-future/1698
17:07 <@Shadow404> lawl
17:09 <@Drag0n> someone needed the wife out of the house for a while, either its gonna be a good surprise for her, or a REAL bad one for him
17:12 <@timoguin> hahaha
17:13 <@Dagmar> A beatin' from the missus for sure
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17:27 < uSynx> so much for a productive day
17:27 < uSynx> got told not to go into work due to road condition from storm last night
17:27 < uSynx> i sat on the couch all f'ing day
17:29 < uSynx> and i dont have any beer
17:29 < uSynx> i must work up the motivation to go get beer
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17:38 < uSynx> ping
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18:39 < AstralSin> everyone make it out of the storms ok today?
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19:49 <@Catonic> AstralSin: I feel so ... unloved.
19:49  * Catonic missed a perfectly good shower
19:52 < AstralSin> it was pretty rough
19:52 < AstralSin> murfreesboro got fucked up
19:57 < AstralSin> my net connection is shit
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20:03 < dasunt_> Woah, people.
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20:03 < dasunt> Catonic: Why aren't you ever on my google talk anymorE?
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20:20 <@dasunt> I am so out of it right now.
20:32  * dasunt ponders.
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22:43 < eryc> heh
22:44 < eryc> i like how that "ramdisk" supports 200-400Mhz ram on a SATA interface that maxes at 100Mhz
22:44 <@dasunt> :p
22:44 <@dasunt> Bizzarro wikipedia article of the day:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whizzinator
22:44 < eryc> er
22:44 < eryc> read this table wrong
22:45 < eryc> ddr-200 to 400 which is 100-200Mhz
22:45 < eryc> sata is still 100Mhz so no point in getting faster ram for that.. not to mention its non-ecc
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23:15 <@NotLarry> anyone know baudburn's im information?
23:16 <@Dagmar> Today scientists have successfully implanted the most incredible gene ever into a hamster: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/10/funny-pictures-video-hamster-stashes-carrot/
23:16 <@Dagmar> Hopefully human trials will begin soon
23:29 <@Catonic> bing
23:30 <@Catonic> NotLarry: mudderfucker
23:30 <@Catonic> you never emailed me
23:30  * Catonic hangs out the drunk flag
23:32 <@Evilpig> okay I sudo into an account and try to screen -dr $sessionid and get "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
23:33 <@Evilpig> anyone know what I did wrong or am I just duh huh
23:35 <@Catonic> I just do screen -dr
23:35 <@Evilpig> did
23:35 <@Catonic> never had two session running at once however
23:35 <@Evilpig> screen -rd 4423
23:35 <@Evilpig> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
23:35 <@Dagmar> devpts isn't mounted
23:35 <@Dagmar> Something like that
23:35 <@Catonic> did they start it from the cons?
23:36 <@Evilpig> remote session
23:36 <@Catonic> just drop the pid
23:36 <@Catonic> su - foo
23:36 <@Catonic> screen -dr
23:36 <@Dagmar> Or just look in /dev/pts/
23:36 <@Dagmar> You're not su'd over to some other uid?
23:37 <@Dagmar> Say, one that doens't own that pty?
23:37 <@Evilpig> I am su'd to the one that owns the pty but checking to be sure
23:38 <@Evilpig> {731} baudburn@blueboy$ screen -ls
23:38 <@Evilpig> There is a screen on: 4423.pts-1.blueboy      (Detached)
23:38 <@Evilpig> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-baudburn.
23:39 < eryc> ls -l /dev/pts/0
23:40 < eryc> tty
23:40 <@Catonic> screen -r
23:40 <@Evilpig> screen -r baudburn/4423.pts-1.blueboy
23:40 <@Catonic> # whoami
23:40 <@Dagmar> Possible baudburn wasn't "quite" su'd over properly when he started that session
23:40 <@Evilpig> There is a screen on: 4423.pts-1.blueboy      (Private)
23:40 <@Evilpig> There is no screen to be attached matching 4423.pts-1.blueboy.
23:40 <@Dagmar> Stale socket?
23:40 <@Catonic> reboot -- -r
23:40 <@Catonic> or just reboot
23:41 < eryc> rm -rf /
23:41 <@Catonic> eryc: I so fucking wish
23:41 <@Evilpig> I can kill the process I am trying to look at the screen to see if the rate limiting is off like I think it is
23:41 <@Evilpig> but he went to bed and isn't answering aim
23:41 <@Catonic> I dont think he cares about scrollback
23:42 < eryc> is this a matter of life or death
23:42 <@Catonic> life, death, or irc?
23:42 < eryc> call 911 and ask for your tty back
23:43 <@Catonic> "hello? 911? I want my t-t-y back!" "your titty?"
23:43 <@Evilpig> {736} baudburn@blueboy$ screen -D -RR baudburn/4423.pts-1.blueboy
23:43 <@Evilpig> Must run suid root for multiuser support.
23:43 <@Evilpig> I curse you linux!
23:43 < eryc> sudo -l
23:43 <@Dagmar> Don't blame Linux becaus eyou broke it
23:43 <@Catonic> su - baudburn
23:43 <@Catonic> screen -dr
23:44 <@Catonic> Dagmar: oh god no, blame it because everything it touches turns to the same class of shit the world around
23:44 <@Evilpig> I already did that.  and it doesn't work
23:44 < eryc> tty
23:44 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Linux has this annoying tendency to suddenly be able to tell the difference between the effective uid and the _real_ uid at the worst possible times
23:44 <@Catonic> Evilpig: I'm out of ideas, but not alcohol.
23:44 <@Dagmar> Pretty sure one of those pipes is pwned by root when it shoudln't be
23:45 < eryc> yea
23:45 < eryc> or its trying to open pigs tty as baudburn
23:45 <@Catonic> passwd baudburn
23:45 <@Catonic> login: baudburn
23:45 <@Catonic> passwd: mumble
23:45 < eryc> ssh-keygen -t
23:46 <@Catonic> then switch the hash back latwer
23:46 < eryc> cat .ssh/id_dsa.pub > .ssh/authorized_keys
23:46 < eryc> ssh baudburn@localhost
23:46 < eryc> -tdsa even
23:46 <@Catonic> that's pretty convoluted
23:47  * Catonic wanders
23:47 <@Dagmar> My solution: Manually kill the processes as root, delete the pipes and sockets, and tell baudburn there was a power failure.
23:47 <@Dagmar> "Sorry dude your process didn't make it"
23:50 < eryc> :(){:|:&};:
23:50 <@Dagmar> That works too
23:51 <@Dagmar> while (kill -9 $random); do echo "Pew pew!"; done
23:51 <@Dagmar> s/random/RANDOM/;
23:51 < eryc> haha
23:53 <@Evilpig> notlarry and I found a solution
23:53 <@Evilpig> cp /etc/shadow /etc/shadow.pre
23:54 <@Evilpig> passwd baudburn
23:54 <@Evilpig> ssh baudburn
23:55 < eryc> retards
23:56 < eryc> next time i wont bother giving you advice
23:57 < eryc> hell i'm starting to wonder if you have me on /ignore
23:57 <@Evilpig> the reason my qos script wasn't killing the bandwidth usage was becuase he was copying files out via scp so it was falling under ssh access which I normally give priority
23:58 <@Evilpig> no.  while you were typing that we were in man trying to figure out how to grab another session
23:59 < eryc> k, well ssh keys would have been more elegant
23:59 < eryc> also you can save the private key in your homedir for future reuse
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