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00:33 <@jb7od> http://porter-thinks-he.is-a-geek.net/mfph/julian.html loRmfL!
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00:40 <@Catonic> sdodson: nope
00:40 <@Catonic> but I did almost dispatch a possum last night
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01:06 <@dasunt> Gawdamn, I've almost fallen for this trick as well:  http://xkcd.com/
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01:16 <@dasunt> The more I live, the more I'm convinced that vaginas showed only be borrowed, not owned.
01:16  * dasunt had a childbirth discussion the other night.
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07:04 <@ThelightCosine> *yawn*
07:06 <@Catonic> amen
07:09 <@ThelightCosine> it's been a surprisingly quiet day at work so afr despite ebing down 2 people
07:10 <@ThelightCosine> i actually had time to set up my debian virtualbox and get apt and cpan setup to sue our proxies correctly
07:43 <@brimstone> Mr. Beer!
07:47 <@rattle> Morning folks
07:52 <@ThelightCosine> yo
08:03 < ware> y0
08:04 <@ThelightCosine> sup ware
08:06 < ware> notta
08:06 < ware> thinkin about rearranging my setup at work
08:07 < ware> maybe reinstall this afternoon
08:16 <@ThelightCosine> fun
08:47 < ware> having the first cup of coffee at 7am does wonders for my morning productivity
08:48 < ware> verr
08:52 < fie> telcobub
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09:23 < ware> woot <3 DBAN
09:25 <@ThelightCosine> heh
09:25 <@ThelightCosine> dban ftw
09:25  * ThelightCosine has to figure out some ways to boobytrap his latest application
09:26 <@ThelightCosine> some operations guys are testing it atm
09:26 <@ThelightCosine> but ocne they're done Security gets it
09:26 <@ThelightCosine> and i know the two guys who will be testing it, they're gunna rip it apart
09:26 <@ThelightCosine> i wanna put some traps in there so that when they try and analyse how the applciation works they get some surprises heh
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09:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> good moonin
09:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> ( )( )
10:24 <@ThelightCosine> anyone ehre an MS Exchange/AD gurur?
10:24 <@ThelightCosine> *guru
10:35 <@Catonic> Ooof.
10:35 <@Evilpig> what do you need to know?
10:35 <@Catonic> I so do not want to be drinking this early in the morning
10:38 <@Catonic> ThelightCosine: it puts the question on IRC or it gets the clue upside the head.
10:39 < ware> YEAH! YEAH! YEAH!
10:40 < ware> lol @ 11am
10:42 <@ThelightCosine> sorry was rbeooting so was detached from this session
10:42 <@ThelightCosine> gimme one sec got a user on the phone
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10:43 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
10:47 <@ThelightCosine> anyways my question is this, we have the exchange server system manager installed, and we have all the exchange tasks in our ad suers and comupters snap-in. but in Users and Computers when I go to create a new object the options sin't there for Query-Based Distribution List
10:47 < ware> anyone know about decrypting / rtables / brute forcing cisco enable passwords?
10:47 <@ThelightCosine> and we are running ad 2003 and exhcnage 2003 in native mode
10:48 <@Evilpig> one of your snapins isn't registered
10:48 <@brimstone> ware: cisco enable was decryptable i thought
10:48 <@Evilpig> but I don't currently have an exchange server to look it up and see which 
10:49 < ware> md5 hash
10:49 < ware> right?
10:49 <@Evilpig> I also have a dentist appt in 10 min that I have to get to or I would look online.  but I would look in the mmc and check your loaded modules
10:49 <@ThelightCosine> *nod* okay thabnks
10:49 <@brimstone> ware: http://insecure.org/sploits/cisco.passwords.html ?
10:49 <@ThelightCosine> my googlefu has been insufficient so far
10:49 < ware> brimstone: thats type 7 passwords
10:50 < ware> using cisco's algorythim
10:52 <@brimstone> then, md5?
10:52 < ware> yeah
11:15 < fall0ut> ware: depends
11:22 < ware> sall good, i got it
11:23 <@M0j0-j0j0> lolzcisco
11:25  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
11:25 <@brimstone> Cons: default firmware...
11:26 <@brimstone> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124321
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12:51 <@Shadow404> msg ladymerlin meow
12:51 <@Shadow404>  msg Evilpig meow
12:51 <@Shadow404> meh, damn script broken, sorry bout that
12:52 <@brimstone> what are you up to Shadow404?
12:52 <@Shadow404> im busy kicking steam in the nads cause their game purchasing system has been down all day
12:52 <@Shadow404> i wann buy left 4 dead and ive been trying since 4 hours ago
12:53 <@brimstone> i have that game!
12:53 <@brimstone> but i got it when it was $25 :P
12:54 <@Shadow404> wow, im abut to give up and go buy a physical copy to get the cd key
12:54 <@brimstone> good luck, i don't think it's available physically
12:55 <@Shadow404> so i can login to steam client, bu the store wont let me login with the same exact credentials
12:55 <@Shadow404> brimstone: yes it is, was in target yesterday
12:55 <@Shadow404> meh, every thing is broke on their site since they got a new merchant credit provider
13:00 <@oddball> brimstone: BestBuy also carries it.
13:00 <@oddball> Basically, if it costs over $30, chances are you can buy a physical copy.
13:18 <@Catonic> unf
13:19 <@aestetix> dongz
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13:46 < daswork> Should I know the term "intelligent firewall"?
13:47 <@brimstone> only if you're in marketing
13:47 < daswork> Does it have a commonly accepted meaning?
13:49 <@brimstone> iptables
13:49  * brimstone ducks
13:50 <@brimstone> i'm trolling, i have no idea what constiutes a firewall being intelligent
13:51 < daswork> Yah, google doesn't seem to dcome up with a commonly accomplished term either.
13:54 < fie> An intelligent firewall is one that is configured based on previous or detected information.
13:54 < fie> I mean... that's what I think it would be.
13:55 < fie> I mean... it's the same as AI. You store/detect information about something then respond properly. So a firewall that was "intelligent" would either try to configure itself automagically or make recommendations on how it should be configured.
13:55 < fie> But "intelligent firewall" is not a technical term by any means.
13:56 < fie> An intelligent firewall might be a firewall with a reactive IDS module or something.
14:16 <@Dagmar> It's a firewall with a diversified investment portfolio.
14:16 <@Dagmar> Obviously.
14:18 <@brimstone> the only firewalls mensa uses
14:31 <@Dagmar> Tell the users it's a firewall that monitors, evaluates, and passes moral judgements upon their web browsing habits and may one day decide to destroy all of humanity.
14:32 <@aestetix> brimstone: no, you've got it all wrong
14:32 <@aestetix> it's the thermostats that are intelligent
14:33 <@aestetix> http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/resource/view.php?id=229478 (passing reference to this joke, btw)
14:34 <@Catonic> ow ow ow ow
14:35 <@Dagmar> WALL OF TEXT CRITS FOR 9 MILLION DAMAGE
14:35  * Catonic runs from the bad man
14:35 <@Catonic> Dolemite: I'm watching Gran Torino
14:36 <@Dagmar> Out of context, that article is downright aggressively verbose
14:36 <@Catonic> I think I will always hear Crint Eastwood when I see "Get off my lawn" from now on
14:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah really
14:53 < rattleXw> This is really turning out to be one of those weeks I'm really going to have trouble resisting the urge to set someone on fire, piss them out, then set them on fire again.
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14:59 <@Catonic> "Yes, you are, a sorry sack of tangerine bitch."
15:00 <@Catonic> rattleXw: think of the time you could save by drinking GPA
15:00 <@Catonic> then you could set them on fire and put the fire out while feeding the next one with your urine
15:01 <@Catonic> "yo god, we herd u liked fire, so we put a fire in your fire."
15:01 <@Catonic> *dog
15:01 < eryc> unleash the kracken
15:03 < eryc>         ,---,_          ,
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15:03 < eryc>     .--'` ._      `/   <_
15:03 < eryc>      >,-' ._'.. ..__ . ' '-.
15:03 < eryc>   .-'   .'`         `'.     '.
15:03 < eryc>    >   / >`-.     .-'< \ , '._\
15:03 < eryc>   /    ; '-._>   <_.-' ;  '._>
15:03 < eryc>   `>  ,/  /___\ /___\  \_  /
15:03 < eryc>   `.-|(|  \o_/  \o_/   |)|`  OY VEY
15:03 < eryc>       \;        \      ;/  I GOTTA STOP DRINKING
15:03 < eryc>         \  .-,   )-.  /      THE FIRE WATER
15:03 < eryc>          /`  .'-'.  `\
15:03 < eryc>         ;_.-`.___.'-.;
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15:10 < ware> hahaha nice
15:12 < coil> lawl
15:14 < ware>   .-===-. WATCH
15:14 < ware>   | . . |    OUT
15:14 < ware>   | .'. |     ITS
15:14 < ware>  ()_____()     MAH
15:14 < ware>  ||_____||    CHAIR!
15:14 < ware>   W     W
15:15  * Dolemite comes up for air
15:15 < ware> where you been?
15:16 <@Dolemite> meetings
15:16 <@Dolemite> boss is out on vacation this week, so I have my role plus his to fulfill this week
15:16 < ware> suck
15:17 <@Dolemite> I've been in meetings all day discussing why ware has no game.
15:17 <@Dolemite> Apparently it's garnering attention at the highest levels of academia!
15:18 <@Dolemite> speaking of which, I got emailed asking if I could do the TGIF shop in the 'boro again...   reminded me of you not hitting on the tattooed bartender that was flirtifying you
15:18 < ware> haha nice
15:18 < ware> wha?! i dont remember
15:18 <@Dolemite> The age compliance shop we did at the bar?
15:18 < ware> she must have been quite alternative for me not to play back
15:18 < ware> ive got a horrible memory man
15:19 <@Dolemite> the bartender with the tats of heaven on one arm and hell on the other?
15:19 <@Dolemite> the whole discussion about dichotomy and then she mentions the whole whore/madonna dichotomy as well
15:19 < eryc> i wonder what purgatory looks like on that one
15:19 < ware> oh right
15:19 <@Dolemite> *ding*
15:19 < ware> yeah she was a bit too far out there for me
15:19 < ware> as i was being judgemental and setting expectations etc
15:19 <@Dolemite> I'm sure she would have been passionate about licking your balls, though
15:19 < ware> which i realize you cant do unless someone gives you a valid reason
15:20 < ware> or im realizing*
15:21 < ware> haha apparently Syphillis cases have doubled in Davidson County
15:22 <@Evilpig> you've been busy ware
15:25 < ware> srsly
15:27 < ware> dinged 60 last night!
15:27 < ware> woohoo!
15:30 < coil>  3:30PM  up 248 days, 17:32, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
15:31 < ware> lol can i overflow ur outdated ssh
15:31 < ware> it would be lulzworthy
15:31 < coil> lol
15:31 < coil> it's still the same box
15:32 < coil> that you rooted before
15:32 < ware> oh lol
15:32 <@critch> ware: it is possible to upgrade ssh without rebooting
15:32 < ware> i know
15:32 <@Evilpig> can't update the kernel though
15:33 <@critch> Evilpig: yes, but how often is the kernel the way in for an attack?
15:34 <@Evilpig> ummmm it's a new one just 0-day'd today
15:34 <@Evilpig> ware if you ware looking for places to poke at.  do a stealh port scan for port 5900 at 72.14.100.164
15:34 <@Evilpig> tcp
15:35 <@brimstone> isn't 5900 the AIM port?
15:35 < coil> did you get it? any questions? how long?
15:35 < coil> vnc
15:35 <@brimstone> yeah, vnc, my bad
15:35 <@Dagmar> Yo
15:35 < ware> hehe
15:35 <@Evilpig> I know where it is.  I have no idea if they closed it or not
15:35 <@Evilpig> but i am not touching it myself
15:36 <@Dagmar> ANyone know of a binary executable packer other than UPX?
15:37 <@Dagmar> ...alternately, do you know how the Ardamax keylogger reports it's findings to a remote user?
15:40 <@Dagmar> Someone uploaded a crude keylogger to curse.com.
15:40 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to figure out what email address (if any) they set it up to report to
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15:42 <@Evilpig> dagmar: http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=44982  <-- probably going to be the most sought after pet
15:44 <@Dagmar> Cool
15:44 <@Dagmar> Watch Disney sue
15:44 <@Evilpig> the brooms are already all over silvermoon
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15:45 <@Dagmar> I know
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15:53 < rattleXw> This is totally fucking awesome.  http://chiaobama.com/
15:53 < rattleXw> I ordered one for my office.
15:54 < rattleXw> The guys on the IT team, who are all black, have confirmed this is not racist.
15:54 <@Dagmar> http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1147
15:54 < rattleXw> To quote, "not unless it comes with a bucket of chicken and a watermelon."
15:54 <@Dagmar> lol
16:09 <@Catonic> I really don't understand that.
16:09 <@Catonic> Because after a month of going vegan, I'd go hog wild on a bucket of fried chicken and watermelon
16:22 <@brimstone> didja dip ya feet in da swimmin' pool too?
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16:38 <@Catonic> I think I figured out how to make a radar jammer... who wants to help me test it?
16:40 <@M0j0-j0j0> Catonic: is this the "don't use if you want to have children" model?
16:40 <@M0j0-j0j0> or just the run of the mill "... but so many things contribute to cancer" version?
16:42 <@Catonic> if this works the way I think it will, it will befuddle the cop, and he'll know he's been had very quickly.
16:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> Knight Industries Two Thousand edition
16:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> it listens to you
16:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> and has a british accent
16:43 <@Catonic> well, if you reduce the useful range of the radar to obscure angles, the cop can't use the RADAR gun to derive your speed
16:43 <@brimstone> RADAR
16:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> does your speed show up as 'PWNED'
16:43 <@Catonic> the cosine angle becomes so great that the speed indication will be off
16:45 <@M0j0-j0j0> and hope that nobody around you has a pace maker
16:45 < eryc> rattleXw: Did you go with the "determined" or "happy" Chia Obama?
16:46 < rattleXw> Determined, of course.
16:48 < eryc> Very good. I would get the Happy Chia Obama if it came with a bucket of Chia Chicken and a Chia Watermelon.
16:48  * M0j0-j0j0 is still waiting for someone to come out with the Obama remix of the Macarana.
16:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> that was one of the down sides to spending the weekend with my family... Every 15 minutes they had to say what a horrible president he is.
16:51 < eryc> My co-worker I sit next to and my boss having nothing good to say of Obama either..
16:51 <@Catonic> lol
16:51 <@Catonic> chia chicken
16:52 <@Catonic> as opposed to chai chicken
16:53 < polerin> horribly, completely, totally nsfw.
16:54 < polerin> don't even think about clicking on this
16:54 < polerin> http://www.the-isb.com/?p=980
16:54  * eryc prematurely clicks
16:54 <@brimstone> k
16:54 <@Catonic> hrm
16:54 < eryc> eh.. why is that nsfw
16:55 <@Catonic> eryc: there's things for that premature clicking
16:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> eryc: I'm pretty sure that everyone in my family is part of a cult.. not the same cult mind you.. I think they all have their own cult and that they are brainwashed to think that, in some way, the president of the united states should be a moral and religious compass... as if that's worked well for the last 8 years.. I have my own mind and don't need the president of my country trying to frighten me into fearing that god is going
16:55 < polerin> eryc: keep scrolling down.
16:55 <@brimstone> god is going what M0j0-j0j0?
16:56 < eryc> poiupoiu: bloody vagina?
16:56 < eryc> polerin:
16:57 <@poiupoiu> close, but wrong gender
16:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> brimstone: my entire family is nuts... and I'm sure I didn't fall far enough from the tree, but you should all be happy they don't know about irc.
16:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> my dad wants me to become Catholic
16:58 < eryc> so
16:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> even though they are about to turn him down
16:59 < eryc> I wonder what measures G20 agreed to when/if the world economy falls into chaos
16:59 <@brimstone> M0j0-j0j0: can you apply online?
16:59 < eryc> is Obama the new leader of the NWO?
16:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> brimstone: I think I can become clergy online
17:00 <@brimstone> New World Obama!
17:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> eryc: they all have the coordinates for the rocket ship that will take them to the hidden lunar base.
17:01 <@M0j0-j0j0> brimstone: I just checked.. seems I'm not attracted to little boys enough.
17:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> brimstone: and I think the pope is full of crap
17:02 <@brimstone> he probably just needs to go outside then
17:02 < eryc> http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/04/05
17:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> damn there goes my career in the church.
17:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> eryc: so VOIP over ssh tunnel is the future?
17:05 < eryc> srtp is already a reality
17:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> eryc: but it's not common place is it?
17:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> well..
17:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> at least not for hardwired phones in everyone's house
17:07 < polerin> eryc: just in general, the "scantily clad ghost nurses bleeding from wounds" is sorta ...  yeah.
17:08 < polerin> though I do love that bottom quote
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17:21 <@Dagmar> Damn the county court clerk's office
17:22 <@Dagmar> Them and their pesky insistence that they actually know what I'm talking about before they answer
17:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> polerin: haunted snatch?
17:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> croc porn?
17:29 < eryc> M0j0-j0j0: right.. its not common and semi-politically controversial given the potential market
17:30 < eryc> from Obama's prague speech: "All nations must come together to build a stronger, global regime. And that's why we must stand shoulder to shoulder to pressure the North Koreans to change course."
17:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> zrtp
17:31 < eryc> ya the pgp guy's thing
17:31 < eryc> skype encrypts too i think
17:32 <@Catonic> Dagmar: love that, don't you?
17:33 <@Dagmar> huh?
17:33 <@Catonic> clerks offices
17:33 <@Dagmar> Meh. I'm kinda neutral on them
17:33 <@Catonic> where they know everything, and abort justice at every opportunity
17:34 <@Dagmar> What I don't care for is getting a ticket with bullshit on it
17:34 <@Dagmar> I'd *like* to see the whole ticket just go away without me having to go to court at all
17:34 <@Catonic> mine is just that I need to change a court date
17:34 <@Dagmar> http://evildagmar.livejournal.com/57728.html
17:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> we should start our own phone company that lets you know if your communication is encrypted or not... I bet a lot of people would move over to it... but we would all go to jail.. but they we could have 2600 meetings in the yard every day :)
17:34 <@Dagmar> i r dangrus criminulz
17:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> we could start ConCon
17:35 <@Catonic> I'll never understand why they are committed to making it difficult to actually participate in the process
17:36 <@Catonic> no, you're going to have to go to court
17:36 <@Catonic> plead not guilty, and take your registrations with you
17:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> and fight for your right to party
17:36 <@Dementia> Con-Con is an anime convention in Baltimore.
17:36 <@Dagmar> nope.
17:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> I didn't have to go to court for the last ticket I got
17:36 <@Dagmar> This is why I'm trying to get with the clerk's office
17:37 <@Dagmar> I got no problem with 2 of the 3 charges.
17:37 <@Catonic> My luck is that I can fight a ticket, unfortately the jurisdiction doesn't want to be lawful.
17:37 <@Catonic> you can't get charge 3 dismissed without going to court
17:37 <@Dagmar> Sez you
17:37 <@Catonic> they won't let you pro-ce (pro-see) unless you grab them by the balls
17:38 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dementia: buttrapeCon?
17:38 <@Catonic> walk into the clerks office and request to see the pro-ce clerk.
17:38 <@Dementia> M0j0-j0j0: that's your prerogative.
17:38 <@Catonic> er
17:38 <@Catonic> per-se
17:38 <@Catonic> *pro-se
17:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> "may I speak with Percey the clerk?"
17:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> Marcy?
17:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> Steve?
17:39 <@Dagmar> I'm just going to ask the clerks who do I talk to to make charge #3 go away without having to bother a judge, if that's possible
17:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: make sure that you take proof that the issue is 100% addressed.. once I did that with the sticker on my plate and I took the sticker in to show them that I had it and they made me walk a mile back to my car to put the sticker on since obviously it I have the sticker in my hand it still isn't on the plate so I'm still in violation.
17:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> power-trippin' dill hole
17:43 <@brimstone> mount is a liar!
17:43 <@brimstone> mount -o ro my ass
17:44 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig, I believe brimstone made a request of your RPC services
17:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> brimstone: mount your ass
17:44 <@brimstone> pfft
17:44 <@brimstone> he probably wouldn't mount it read only either
17:45 <@Catonic> M0j0-j0j0: I've taken the tag off the car before
17:45 <@Catonic> sticker, tag, and all and taken them into court
17:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> Catonic: I'm sure he was over all the pictures I took of the sticker on the plate with my cell phone... gang signs got involved.
17:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> in what world would someone say "no, we would rather make you walk an extra 40 minutes than trust you to put a sticker on your plate without varification"
17:49 <@Catonic> control
17:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> asshatness
17:50 <@Catonic> that and a need to "Dad" the populace
17:50 <@Catonic> because of those people who grew up in homes without a strong male influence
17:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> small penis
17:53 <@Catonic> control is at the root
17:53 <@Catonic> if your moral compass isn't strong, you can't handle power.
17:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> Catonic: as power goes I would say that this was the smallest amount I've ever seen someone trip over.
17:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> Catonic: a flunky to a flunky to a flunky of a judge in illustrious Wake county NC.
17:55 <@Catonic> but you fdont understand
17:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> it could only be worse if it was Wilson county
17:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> Catonic: I do
17:56 <@Catonic> WE'VE GOT to PROTECT the PEOPLE
17:56 <@Catonic> because they can't protect themselves
17:56 <@Catonic> because they can't control themselves
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17:56 <@Catonic> because they are dirty filthy apes
17:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> get your damn dirty hands off me you filthy ape.
17:57 < ware> http://health.nashville.gov/WebDocs/Public_Announcements/20090406STDClinic.htm
17:57 <@rhia> "a computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing" ... alrighty
17:58 <@Catonic> training in martial arts has given me some thought. I wish I had been in the military so I'd have a better understanding of UMCJ and Geneva convention, etc.
17:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: two very enthusiastic thumbs up.
17:59 <@Catonic> when you decided that you don't want to be touched, and have the means to make that effective...
18:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> Catonic: I would guess that the military might not be your bag of chips.  Martial Arts are about introspection and the military is more about re-socialization.
18:00 <@Catonic> I would argue desocialization
18:01 <@Catonic> since most ex-military types who have seen combat have difficulty correlating it with "real life"
18:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> I think that people should be challenged and should strive to become the best that they can be, but I don't feel that our currently military training methodology truly makes people the best they can be.. I think it makes them fit a model which may or may not be the best fit.  Who are they to judge what is best?  I think has to be addressed on a person by person basis and anyone will tell you that military training is anything but
18:06 <@rhia> widely varying degrees - i know a lot of combat vets that adjusted back to civilian very well
18:07 <@rhia> situational analysis, comprehension, and self control
18:08 < ware> anybody got "A Wrinkle in time" the book?
18:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: my best friend growing up wasn't one of them.  While I hope he's doing alright these days, the person that came out of that experience wasn't the person who went in.
18:08 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: oh, i know some that didn't come back entirely, too, just argued with "most" from above
18:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: I remember the story pretty well if you're trying to answer a trivia question, but I don't have the book
18:10 <@Catonic> you have to really have your shit together to be able to do that.
18:10 <@rhia> friend of mine used to have to share being on watch all night with his brother to let their mom sleep - their dad physically came back from 'nam but emotionally wrecked and had extremely  violent walking nightmares -
18:11 <@M0j0-j0j0> Catonic: answer questions about "A Wrinkle In Time?"
18:12 <@Catonic> no, go over, get in a war, do your job and come home
18:12 <@rhia> dated a navy guy that was classic shell shocked, er, PTSD, he'd revert to being back on ship watching his mates burn - not pretty
18:14 <@rhia> but most vets, even the combat vets, actually handle it pretty well - esp if their initial readjustment period is handled well and they land a cool down tour before reentering civy life
18:15 <@M0j0-j0j0> I think I would do very poorly in the military, but could be trained to perform the same job with a team in a less caustic/wholesale fashion and actually do well with it.
18:19 <@rhia> grew up in a military family, surrounded by military people - knew by the time i was 12 that i am NOT suited to be in the military <g>
18:19 <@M0j0-j0j0> creativity is of much more use to me than memorization of stuff that could be derived when needed.  I know that certain things require a reflexive familiarity but certainly their are people out there who naturally have those reflexes without having to shoehorn them into people that can be better used for higher congestive functions.
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18:20 <@rhia> having a Master Sergeant dad was very good forming that bit of self discovery
18:21 <@rhia> missed a 'for' somewhere in there
18:21 <@M0j0-j0j0> the military wanted me.. and my dad wanted me to do that, but somethings just can't wait.
18:29 <@M0j0-j0j0> 'course my dad thought I was an idiot (which... who wasn't as a teen) and just wanted me not to accrue jail time.  Chance are it's, genetically speaking, his fault I have a learning disability to start with.
18:30  * M0j0-j0j0 is a tard that can't read.
18:33 <@M0j0-j0j0> proof(?) as to why we don't find croc porn: http://www.sundancechannel.com/greenporno/ (nsfw)
18:35 <@Catonic> M0j0-j0j0: right, which is why you're spending time on IRC, because you can't read, you textually-active maniac you.
18:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> Catonic: seriously, reading for me is a huge (and slow) pain in the ass and my retention level is really really really low... If you ever noticed how messed up some of the things I type end up its because I don't read what I type because it takes too long... that's why I don't read backscroll usually either...
18:42  * M0j0-j0j0 has thought about switching to braille.
18:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> headed to the gym.
18:51 < coil> penis
18:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> have a good night folks.
18:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> penis!
18:51 < coil> M0j0-j0j0: penis
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21:15 <@sdodson> http://istwitterdown.com/  LIESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
21:17 <@sasquatc4> we can only hope that some day it will always say yes, and the madness can end
21:17 < coil> it's not down
21:17 < coil> noobs
21:19 <@sdodson> coil: yes it is!
21:19 <@sdodson> ahh wtf now it's not :(
21:20 < coil> as i say again, noob.
21:20 <@sasquatc4> i never said it wasnt, just said it would be a nice day when it is, permanently
21:20 <@sdodson> coil: how are you today?
21:21 < coil> super, thanks for asking.
21:24 <@sdodson> coil: good to hear my friend
21:24 <@sdodson> gooood to hear
21:24 < coil> yeah dont get storm
21:24 < coil> pearl is much better
21:26 <@sdodson> bold
21:26 <@sdodson> bolddddddddddd
21:29 <@sasquatc4> any of those good for actual web browsing, lookin for a good one for sprint but everyone says instincts browser sucks
21:31 < coil> i liked the storm but it would zoom when i didn't want to zoom and scroll would do the same
21:31 < eryc> you can install opera
21:32 <@sasquatc4> thats what i wasnt sure about either, kept reading things about opera coming to various sprint phones but couldnt find out if it actually did
21:32 <@sasquatc4> eryc: is it on the instinct? or all of em?
21:33 < eryc> dunno.. anything with java i would guess
21:33 <@sasquatc4> k
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22:05 <@sdodson> it's windy as fuck out there
22:11 <@aestetix> stop farting
22:13 <@sdodson> good idea
22:13 <@Dagmar> Storm's a'comin'
22:15 <@Catonic> you shouldna done that
22:15 <@Catonic> he was just a boy
22:22 <@Dagmar> Fuckin' finally
22:24 <@sdodson> Dagmar: what happened?
22:32 <@Dagmar> What?  oh nothing
22:33 <@Dagmar> Just for *once* in the last ten years I've quoted a particular movie, and *someone* caught it
22:34 <@Dagmar> Pet Sematary
22:34 <@sdodson> that movie gave me nightmares
22:34 <@Dagmar> It's pretty gruesome
22:36 <@sdodson> I wonder if dropping 25 patches because they went upstream meant that fedora originally pulled them from upstream but non merged or if they're original patches.
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22:44 <@dasunt> What should I do?
22:44 <@dasunt> Who should I set on fire?
22:45 <@Drag0n> yourself?
22:45 <@Dagmar> Does it really matter who?
22:45 <@CRasH180> He can set his imaginary friend on fire
22:46 <@dasunt> Aye.
22:46 <@dasunt> Imaginary friends are good.
22:47 <@CRasH180> and, now they are toasty
22:47 <@dasunt> Yeppers.
22:48 <@CRasH180> Nothing like the smell of burnt imaginary friends in the morning. OK, I am going to stop now.
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22:51 <@dasunt> That's sigworthy.
22:53 <@Dagmar> OMG
22:53 <@Dagmar> Leno
22:53 <@Dagmar> MORONS
22:53 <@brimstone> OMG TV
22:53 <@brimstone> pfft
22:53 <@Dagmar> They show Grahm Bell with a prototype telephone in front of his mouth and the girl contestant goes "Is he smoking something?"
22:54 <@brimstone> this surprises you?
22:54 <@Dagmar> These girls are breathtakingly stupid
22:54 <@Dagmar> "Who invented the Telegraph?"
22:55 <@Dagmar> "Aw... I thought you were going to say telephone."
23:01 <@dasunt> New term:  "Passive drinking"
23:02 <@Dagmar> Not sure I want to know how that works
23:03 <@dasunt> basically, the problem with idiots can be solved if we eliminate everything idiots can abuse.
23:04 <@dasunt> It's going to suck when we're down to just objects made of foam and some idiot manages to suffocate himself with one.
23:05 <@Dagmar> Well, I know I gotta either a) stop chewing gum or b) learn to fucking chew it properly
23:06 <@Dagmar> Or maybe just keep some surgical steel barbells around next week when I fucking bite the inside of my face by accident again
23:10 <@dasunt> Dagmar: We shoudl ban gum!
23:11 <@sdodson> oh ya UNC won!
23:14 <@dasunt> My sport minded friend says that the east coast is finished.
23:14 <@dasunt> You must be wrong.
23:22 <@sdodson> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/sports/ncaabasketball/07spartans.html?ref=ncaabasketball
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23:51 <@dasunt> Er, What the fuck?
23:51 <@dasunt> http://www.pnj.com/article/20090404/NEWS01/904040319&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL
23:51 <@dasunt> Look at the pictured.
23:51 <@dasunt> Er, picture.
23:51 <@dasunt> WHY ARE THEY IN A STOLLER?
23:51 <@dasunt> 4 years old?
23:52 <@Dagmar> Less humiliating than a leash
23:52 <@dasunt> Someone who has children, this is a serious question, is that stroller age?
23:52 <@dasunt> 4 years?
23:55 <@sdodson> " The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends waiting until a child is six (6) months old before using a jogging stroller. Most jogging strollers can handle up to 80 pounds. Most likely your jogging stroller will accommodate up to 4 or 5 years old."
23:56 <@sdodson> strollerdepot.com
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