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00:15 <@dasunt> Catonic: I suppose you want a sober reply to your email.
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05:44 <@Catonic> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3131
06:55 <@Catonic> dasunt: either or.
08:31 < ware> Catonic: does you know about police scanners? im thinkin about getting one for my car
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09:05 <@Shadow404> get one with full trunking abilities
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09:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> Evilpig: my gym is hiring.
09:35 <@Shadow404> haha, like anyone in this channel works out
09:36 <@Shadow404> well except for...lets just say i like the line from revenge of the nerds in the moon room at the carnival
09:37 <@oddball> Ok, great April's fool's post that we missed yesterday: http://tinyurl.com/cubvxd
09:37 <@M0j0-j0j0> Shadow404: I work out almost every day and I bet irongeek does too
09:37 <@Shadow404> ok, majority would probably be a better choice of words
09:38 <@oddball> plants vs zombies! (I actually hope reports are wrong about it being an april's fools.
09:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> Shadow404: why?
09:46 <@Shadow404> i just have a hard time beleiving it
09:47 <@M0j0-j0j0> the benefits of working out is well documented.
09:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> and for a group that is so hyper focused on making things better.. it seems like something more people would be behind
10:01 <@Shadow404> but were lazy, thats why we have roombas and shit
10:02 <@Shadow404> ok, why is my ftp server allowing file transfers, logins and everything, but ls/dir doesnt work and times out
10:02 <@Shadow404> both udp and tcp are allowed through
10:02 <@brimstone> as your roomba
10:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> got to change machines bbiaf
10:02 <@brimstone> *ask
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10:03 <@Shadow404> brimstone: yeah, thats the newer version then the roomba i have now. The new roomba has google built in
10:03  * brimstone performs an unsupported upgrade on Shadow404's roomba, by force
10:04 <@Shadow404> lawl
10:04 <@Shadow404> ok, so i think its a firewall thing
10:04 <@Shadow404> but im not sure
10:05 <@Shadow404> gah, i have 20 and 21 open
10:09 <@TheLightcosine> hrm
10:09 <@Shadow404> ok, tis fixed, but howw do i force passive mode of microsoft ftp?
10:10 <@TheLightcosine> okay anyone know of a simple way to programaticcaly read throguh the mail in an Exchange mailbox folder?
10:10 <@Shadow404> if i force passive on linux it works
10:10 <@brimstone> just open it up to the world
10:10 <@TheLightcosine> .NEt has proven it's sux0r, i tried email::folder::exchange in perl and it fails
10:10 <@Shadow404> um, exchnage is fail
10:10 <@Shadow404> that is the source of the issue
10:11 <@TheLightcosine> Shadow404: yes well that doesn't solve my problem now does it?
10:11 <@brimstone> says the man using MS ftp
10:11 <@TheLightcosine> heh
10:12 <@Shadow404> well, i have a client that doesnt run linux
10:14 <@Shadow404> ah, windows xp doesnt support passive on command line
10:20 <@brimstone> wsftp
10:20 <@brimstone> or winscp
10:20 <@brimstone> small light client
10:21 < vyrus001> anybody know where to find some orecle injection strings?
10:22 <@aestetix> hey
10:22 <@aestetix> fyi, if you're following the conflicker work
10:22 <@aestetix> http://blog.fireeye.com/research/ pay attention to this
10:23 <@aestetix> they're going to be releasing a full reversing analysis soon
10:23 < vyrus001> god... NO MORE CONFLICKER!!!
10:23 <@brimstone> aww, thta's nice of them
10:23  * vyrus001 hits himself in the head with a hammer
10:23 <@aestetix> vyrus001: do you know julia?
10:23 < vyrus001> EVERYbody has a god damn analysis of that thing
10:23 <@brimstone> all of those domains have got to be expensive to register
10:23 <@aestetix> vyrus001: this is going to be julia's analysis.
10:23 < vyrus001> its only 1 bug... you can only analyse it so manny times
10:23 < vyrus001> aestetix: dono julia
10:24 <@aestetix> vyrus001: that's surprising. you should. She's one of the best reversers I have ever met.
10:24 < vyrus001> hm
10:24 <@aestetix> If I'm at DefCon this year, I'll introduce you
10:24 < vyrus001> isrial and val are my go-to dudes for that
10:24 < vyrus001> but im always down to meet more
10:24 <@aestetix> she's on pay with them if not better
10:24 <@aestetix> on par*
10:24 < vyrus001> WOW
10:24 < vyrus001> iono man valsmith = teh man
10:24 <@aestetix> ask him about julia
10:25 <@aestetix> let me put it this way
10:25 < vyrus001> maby she can help with w/e the fuck me and frank2 are workin on
10:25 < vyrus001> found this new shit... nothign picks it up
10:25 < vyrus001> all we know is that its a bot and its russian
10:25 < vyrus001> but its a fucking mind fuck
10:25 <@aestetix> for one of her recent studies.... she looked at a hexdump of a GIF and was able to determine that it had data steganographically embedded in it because the pattern didn't look like proper GIF compression
10:25 < vyrus001> cant even unpack the damnt hing yet
10:25 <@aestetix> and then manually deciphered it
10:26 < vyrus001> lol wow
10:26 < vyrus001> manualy
10:26 <@Evilpig> who was bitching about windows xp passive ftp?  use IE
10:26 <@aestetix> then when they got the binary of the malware which did it, turned out she was right
10:26 < vyrus001> thats just... thats just here come look at my huge brain
10:26 <@aestetix> vyrus001: just saying. Not to diss valsmith, cause he IS teh man
10:26 <@aestetix> and it could just be because I know julia better
10:27 < vyrus001> hay man theres always somebody else :D
10:27 < vyrus001> i aint haten :D
10:27 < vyrus001> better than me, thats all i know
10:27 <@aestetix> it's just, every time I see her, she says something that blows me away
10:27 < vyrus001> im a nub at bin rev ne way
10:27 < vyrus001> kinda makes me not wana do the talk im working on now <_<
10:27 <@aestetix> vyrus001: you should check out lena151's stuff if you haven't
10:28 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
10:28 < vyrus001> herd of lena151
10:28 < vyrus001> she does those crakmes yea?
10:29 <@aestetix> look her up :)
10:29 < vyrus001> yea
10:30 < vyrus001> ive done some of these
10:30 <@aestetix> btw, shot in hell you're hitting notacon?
10:30 < vyrus001> hehe maby... moose is fucking yanking my leg off to go
10:30 <@aestetix> heh
10:30 < vyrus001> and i have clearance from work
10:31 < vyrus001> im just debaiting if i wana go through the hasstle, its nice cus my pto kicks in on the 5th so it dosent have to cost me anything
10:31 < vyrus001> but i leave for seattle on the 8th and get back sun
10:31 < vyrus001> so id bassicly be going to work for 4 days then get on a plane thurs night and head out
10:32 <@aestetix> hehe that sounds like my life from november through january
10:32 < vyrus001> yea between anime shit and defcon april - first week of augest  = biz as fuck every year
10:33 <@TheLightcosine> vyrus001 = reverse engineer?
10:33 < vyrus001> its bassicly april = shot, 4th of july weekend = dead, then 1st 2 of augest = caked in
10:33 < vyrus001> TheLightcosine: lol not really
10:34 < vyrus001> fledgling at best
10:34 <@TheLightcosine> ah
10:34 < vyrus001> i can rev pretty much any standard packer in about 3 minuts and chew through simple dl logic
10:34 < vyrus001> other than that its head bashing against a brick wall for the evil super crazy dasterdly stuff
10:34 <@TheLightcosine> heh yer ahead of me then
10:34 <@TheLightcosine> but that's the road i'd really like to go down
10:35 < vyrus001> well ive bassicly been training up in it the past year and a half straight
10:35 < vyrus001> it was one of those "i should learn that some day" and never did cus i thought it was too hard... till one day i just said fuck it and started reading
10:35 <@TheLightcosine> i have a long way to go ebfore i'll get there heh
10:35 <@aestetix> standard packer == upx?
10:36 < vyrus001> yep
10:36 <@aestetix> heh
10:36 < vyrus001> upx is actuly one of the easiest to recognize
10:36 <@aestetix> yes
10:36  * brimstone strips the headers
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10:36 < vyrus001> there are a LOT if things you can do to modify it to be harder and beat sig detection though
10:36 < vyrus001> which is why alot of malware folks like it
10:36 < vyrus001> and its uber easy to use
10:37  * aestetix is slowly getting back into this shit
10:37 <@aestetix> I took a year or so off to work with erlang :p
10:37 < vyrus001> tricks like switching the endian type on the packer away from the binary
10:37 <@aestetix> vyrus001: you know pi?
10:37 < vyrus001> using multi segmented "unpacked" programs as input so the upx start call goes to the "wrong segmant" shit like that
10:37 < vyrus001> as in 3.14 ;)?
10:37 <@aestetix> no, as in danny quist's student
10:38 < vyrus001> no
10:38 < vyrus001> im west coast remember :D
10:38 < vyrus001> and a nobody
10:38 <@brimstone> one little two little three little endians
10:38 < vyrus001> i dont know nobody
10:38 <@aestetix> so is he
10:39 <@Shadow404> lawl, i just had a customer call up and ask for a /47
10:39 <@aestetix> Or the packers that load fake data into the normal part of memory, and real data into another part...
10:40 <@Shadow404> i was like sir, i dont understand what you mean a /47 doesnt exist
10:40 <@Shadow404> him> it does to, i want 47 public ips, thats what /47 means, doesnt it?
10:40 <@Shadow404> took everything in my power not to hang up or start laughing hysterically on the phone
10:41 < vyrus001> aestetix: i saw this one bug... was pretty nutz... they switched the sectons on the upx... so the packer wrote overitself instead of the null chunk and then the zipper packer underneith joined bolth segs togeather
10:41 <@Shadow404> i mean, this guy was persistent about the /47
10:41 < vyrus001> was pretty cool
10:41 <@aestetix> cool
10:42 <@aestetix> ok I need to go to work soon
10:42 < vyrus001> problem is the upx struc is verry teltale... makes auto unpacking almost impossible, i ran safron on it and it took a giant shit.. but one look in ida and you recognize it straight off... end points are easy to find... once you get to that point your only an olly and a break point away
10:42 <@aestetix> yeah
10:42 <@aestetix> you touched armadillo at all?
10:43 < vyrus001> not rly, well not that i know of
10:43 < vyrus001> theres a few packers i havent identified that i know ive seen before
10:43 <@aestetix> I can't remember which packer..... the OEP is almost always at popad
10:44 < vyrus001> ne wais off to work
10:44 <@aestetix> because it uses pushad to preserve the register state
10:52 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
10:52 <@brimstone> almost afternoon
10:53 <@brimstone> or aftern00n
10:53 <@Dolemite> not here
10:53 <@Dolemite> almost 11 AM
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11:03 < oddball1> hopefully the Comcast guy will be able to straighten out whatever the fuck's going on in my area this afternoon.
11:04 < vyrus001> lawl its 905 here
11:08 <@brimstone> yay timezones!
11:12 <@Evilpig> oddball1: comcrap had problems all over last night
11:12 < oddball1> Oh, this has been going on for a couple days.
11:13 <@Evilpig> we lost an immortal run in wow because 5 people all d/c'd at once last night.  checked the forums a few minutes later and everyone that d/c'd were on comcrap
11:13 < oddball1> And, of course, their call center folks couldn't see an issue on their side.
11:21 < fall0ut> comcast is assy
11:22 < fall0ut> im ready for tds to finish ftth
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11:37 <@polerin> hell even I might go with TDS if they do that
11:46 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : You need to be leveling your toon on Detheroc!
11:47 <@Dolemite> Actually I need to start logging on my lock every day to at least do the dailies and build some gold back up.
11:47 <@Dolemite> those guild bank tabs are 'spensive
11:47 <@Evilpig> no joke
11:48 <@Evilpig> I was about to buy the 5000g one
11:52 <@Dolemite> I will have to fund riding skill training for my druid so that he can fly, so I'm going to need cash
11:52 <@Dolemite> I never did get fast flying with the warlock
11:53 <@Evilpig> I decided last night to level enchanting on my rogue.
11:53  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
11:55 <@Evilpig> went from 350 - 425 last night with just the shit that was in my bank.  :-/
11:55 <@Dolemite> nice
11:56 <@Evilpig> gonna go flood the AH with enchants now
11:57 < ware> bros account got hacked this past weekend
11:57 < ware> well, all 3 of his accounts
11:57 < ware> still working on rolling back to get his toons/toons items/gbank items back
11:58 <@Evilpig> if you have an iphone you can get the mobile authenticator now
11:59 <@brimstone> lol wow
12:00 <@Evilpig> 51 auctions created.  heh
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12:05 < ware> mobile authenticator?
12:06 <@Evilpig> like my keychain thing that generates a one time password each time you log in
12:06 < ware> oh gotcha
12:07 <@Evilpig> you can always tell your friend to get an authenticator from the bliz store for $6
12:07 <@Evilpig> you can use the same one on all the accounts
12:07 < ware> werent they going to do key fobs that auto generated passwords?
12:07 < ware> or is that the same thing
12:07 <@Evilpig> same thing.  I have that one.  but they are doing one that works on phones now
12:08 < ware> sweet
12:19 <@nachoguy> arg, anyone else stuck with OWA?\
12:19 <@nachoguy> is there a way to make it behave with tabs, so you can open mail in new tabs?
12:25 <@Dolemite> tell IE to open new windows in tabs
12:25 <@nachoguy> I'm not in windows
12:26 <@nachoguy> firefox+lunix
12:26 <@Dolemite> using firefox/
12:26 <@Dolemite> tell firefox to open new windows in tabs
12:26 <@nachoguy> it's not opening email in new windows.  is that an option?
12:26 <@Dolemite> ah
12:26 <@Dolemite> I don't use OWA much
12:27 <@nachoguy> they nuked imap access with no warning
12:29 <@Dolemite> "they" sucketh
12:30 <@Evilpig> did they not enable secure imap when they killed imap?
12:31 <@Evilpig> or do what I did and have all your exchange mail forwarded out to a more preferred mail spot
12:31 <@Evilpig> bet my former employer is trying to figure out where my mail is still. 
12:31 <@nachoguy> piggie, it was secured, they whacked it anyway
12:32 <@Dolemite> are you kidding?  he's just happy that nobody has firewalled off his pr0n
12:32 <@Evilpig> I am wondering if my porn filtering had somethign to do with that as well
12:32 <@nachoguy> I had been sending it off ot a much better mail server, but I can't because imap is D-E-D dead
12:32 <@Evilpig> nachoguy.  make a rule in owa to send all your mail to another host.  :P
12:32 <@nachoguy> no imap, no pop, no mapi
12:33 <@Dolemite> evolution?
12:33 <@nachoguy> I did that, but it fucks up the reply all option
12:33 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, nope, I tried it.  evolution works with 2003 owa or mapi.  All I have is 2007 owa
12:35 <@Dolemite> ouch, didn't realize evolution was so far behind
12:35 <@nachoguy> 2007 did a great job making mapi work
12:35 <@nachoguy> but mapi isn't allowed on the server
12:41 <@Dolemite> fascists!
12:41 <@nachoguy> pretty much
12:55 <@Catonic> @cunts
12:57 <@Catonic> hrm
12:57 <@Catonic> that leaves the only supported clients as Entourage and Outlook, as they speak sExchange
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13:48 < coil> grrr
13:48 < coil> i really need to remember to remove this channel from auto join.
14:10 < ware> 4real
14:12 < ware> Catonic: POLICIA SCANNER
14:12 < ware> haz u noledge
14:17 <@Dolemite> ware : I haz no noledge but I haz da g00gle
14:27 < ware> CADIE has disappeared
14:27 < ware> and i wanted some conversation
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14:28 <@Dolemite> I'm sure Corydon would be happy to cyber with you
14:28 <@Dolemite>  /msg ware wut u wearing?
14:30 <@Dolemite>  /msg ware ok i take my pants off 4 u
14:31 <@Dolemite> dammit!
14:40 <@Dagmar> Pffffft.
14:40 <@Dagmar> Going to have to haxor the new roomba already.
14:40 <@Dagmar> The black area rugs I have are tripping it's cliff sensors.
14:40 <@Dolemite> oh, yeah, I forgot to bring mine in to you
14:40 <@Dolemite> do you still want it?
14:40 <@Dagmar> Sure.
14:41 <@Dagmar> Whenever you bring it to the office (when I'm on) is fine since there's an ATM in the building next door
14:41 <@Dolemite> I'll try to remember to bring it to JJs tomorrow
14:41 <@Dagmar> I'm tempted to see how compatible this one is with my old one
14:41 <@Dagmar> I might be able to just swap their cliff sensors, becuase the old one didn't get particularly excited about the black carpet
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14:47 < ware> hehe
14:47 < ware> storms is coommiinn
15:02 <@Evilpig> I still need to take my roomba apart and clean that tach sensor
15:05 <@Dagmar> Well, I just heard the new one sing the unhappy song
15:05 <@Dagmar> It had wandered into the black carpet area, and then decided it's cliff sensor was messed up
15:06 <@Dagmar> Pretty sure I can get the dev kit out and just turn off that concept for it
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15:17 < uSynx> sup peeps
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15:45 <@Shadow404> heh, my roomba bumped the cat when it was sleepin on the hard wood floor the other day, never seen a cat jump so high before till then
15:46 < ware> http://www.wsmv.com/weather/index.html
15:46 <@Shadow404> ware: www.snsweather.com
15:47 <@Shadow404> its like a frnt that follows the highway
15:47 <@Shadow404> heh
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15:52 < oddball1> Well, goody.  Apparently my modem is choking on a software update.
15:52 < oddball1> I would guess it's actually a firmware update, but meh.
15:54 < rattleXw> Fuck the cloud.
16:00  * I-MOD gets out the lube
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16:04 <@Corydon76-dig> In Soviet Russia, cloud fucks YOU
16:09 <@aestetix> fucking floud
16:11  * aestetix goes back and forth between reading good code and bad code
16:12 <@aestetix> guess which one is for work
16:19 <@Dagmar> Lookin' like we're about to get a lot of hail
16:20 <@Shadow404> atlanta is just fine
16:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: give it another 5-10 hours to reach Atlanta
16:21 <@Shadow404> yeah, i read the hazardous weather outlooks for the spotters
16:21 <@Shadow404> starts around 9pm for us
16:28 < coil> diaf
16:41 < ware> I-40 E and W near Briley PKWY are shut down due to two tractor trailers overturned.
16:42 <@Shadow404> nice
16:42 <@nachoguy> twitter two twacter twailers overtuwned
16:42 <@nachoguy> twailews
16:42 <@Shadow404> on the way to pn 2 years back, i was behind a crash involving a riding lawn mower that broke loose from the trailer at highway speed
16:42 <@Shadow404> the after effects werent pretty, glad i wasnt stuck in the traffic after math
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16:43 <@Shadow404> just long enough to make sure everyone was ok
16:44 < coil> raise fin if you care
16:44 <@nachoguy> 2 pns ago on the way down, we drove through the path of a tornado
16:45 <@nachoguy> I'm not sure I've ever seen that much lighting in such a small timespan
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17:49 <@Dagmar> Aha!  http://www.robotreviews.com/chat/viewtopic.php?t=7933 works
17:58 <@nachoguy> later guys, see you next week
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19:27 <@rattle> Plaxo is the Great Satan.
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20:19 <@rattle> I mean it, seriously..  Fuck the god damned cloud!
20:19 <@rattle> Give me a fucking pitchfork.
20:19 <@rattle> And someone start making torches.
20:20 <@rattle> As soon as I figure out where we are marching, we are going to fuck some shit up.
20:21 <@sdodson> rattle: what's got you cranked tonight?
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20:22 <@rattle> The time as simply come.
20:22 <@rattle> s/as/has/
20:23 <@sdodson> Why you hating on the cloud!?! cloud is awesome! it's the one true way!
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20:23 <@rattle> First of all, I can't decide which one of the fluffy little clouds I hate more...
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20:24 <@rattle> The one that everyone is suddenly running parts of their enterprises out of, or the one that everyone keeps uploading every miniscule bit of their personal lives to.
20:26 <@rattle> Or maybe just the fact that the air both float upon is thiner than the pillars that were previously holding up the economy.
20:26 <@sdodson> Hosted clouds are bunk.
20:26 <@sdodson> But the idea of resource pools + near instant provisioning makes me all wet.
20:28 <@sdodson> That doesn't excite you?
20:29 <@rattle> I love the way buzzwords wind up eating the soul.
20:30 <@rattle> If you are doing a good job, building your own cloud, it's more like an island.  Firmly on the ground, holding up above the water.
20:30 <@Evilpig> quickest way to figure out what type of server my host is running?.   I have ftp and cpanel access.  I know it is linux of some variety but I don't have shell access
20:30 <@rattle> Today, that's having a nice virtualized storage and computing cluster sitting in a 5-star facility with multiple transit providers with BGP.
20:30 <@sdodson> Evilpig: look in /etc for files like /etc/lsb-release /etc/redhat-release etc
20:30 <@rattle> Whatever the fuck.
20:31 <@Evilpig> no dice.  i'm chroot'd
20:31 <@rattle> I guess it's the same old thing..  Spend tons of dollars or get eaten by zombies.
20:31 <@sdodson> Evilpig: no uname or anything?
20:31 <@Evilpig> nope.  a passwd file
20:32 <@sdodson> Evilpig: ask your provider
20:32 <@Evilpig> I just sent them an email.  was trying to get an answer sooner
20:32 <@sdodson> Evilpig: go to their site and see what they're pushing?
20:32 <@sdodson> Evilpig: what's the ftp daemon?
20:33 <@Evilpig> proftpd
20:33 <@Evilpig> well i'll be damned.  this place is in hotlanta
20:33 <@Evilpig> America.Net
20:33 <@Evilpig> PO Box 1376
20:33 <@Evilpig> Alpharetta, GA 30009
20:34 <@Evilpig> they aren't specifying on the webpage
20:36 <@Evilpig> this is all coming about cause I tried to install imagemagick from the perl modules interface and got permission denied.  so I was gonna put on netpbm binary modules but don't know the OS to get the right ones.
20:36 <@sdodson> eh that shouldn't really matter.
20:38 <@sdodson> The different versions will just likely be different packaging format
20:39 <@Evilpig> getting the binaries from the gallery project now for intel_linux
20:39 <@Evilpig> if that doesn't work.  i'll try intel_fbsd
20:39 <@sdodson> Are there people running cpanel on freebsd?
20:40 <@Evilpig> you never know
21:02 <@Evilpig> bah.  they blocked phpinfo() from running too
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22:05 <@jb7od> r u ready for the power of mfph? http://porter-thinks-he.is-a-geek.net/Im_in_love.wav
22:06 <@jb7od> nobody is ready for mfph.
22:06 <@jb7od> marilyn malkovich in the heezy
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22:09 < eryc> im here now ph34r
22:09 < eryc> i need to shower to wash some of the booze off
22:09 < eryc> brb
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