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00:00 <@timoguin> and i can do port forwarding with the client too
00:01 <@timoguin> anyway. back to my term paper
00:03 <@timoguin> And CompareEverywhere is the shit.
00:03 <@timoguin> Just scanned a DVD barcode and found out sexbulk.com has Double Cum Cocktails 04 for $5.50.
00:04 <@dasunt> Wikipedia has the most fucked up articles on sexuality.
00:06 <@dasunt> Also, David Duchovny is in some fucked up movies.
00:09 < eryc> timoguin: haha.. i wish iphone camera didnt have a shitty lens. it cant do that
00:11 < eryc> dasunt: http://www.konaworld.com/09_kula_u.cfm
00:11 < eryc> dasunt: or http://www.konaworld.com/09_one20_c.cfm
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00:15 <@dasunt> eryc: Good question.
00:15 <@dasunt> eryc: What you using it for?
00:16 < eryc> mtn biking
00:17 <@dasunt> Well, I have no opinion on hydraulic brakes.  Never used them.  With regular old rim brakes, on a dry day I can stop at maximum speed.
00:17 <@dasunt> Er, rim brakes with a cable setup.
00:18 <@dasunt> eryc: A lot of bumpy ground or not?  I'm more of a road biker, but most of the mountain bikers seem to prefer no rear suspension.
00:18 < eryc> ya im thinking hardtail
00:20 < eryc> maybe http://www.konaworld.com/09_blast_u.cfm
00:20 <@dasunt> As long as you aren't going balls-to-the-wall racing mostly downhill, a rear suspension seems to be overkill.
00:20 < eryc> or http://www.konaworld.com/09_caldera_u.cfm
00:21 < eryc> ya i forgot that one was the dual
00:21 < eryc> i was talking about that with another friend
00:21 <@dasunt> You got a local bike shop that has a good selection?
00:21 <@dasunt> If so, test ride.  :D
00:21 < eryc> oh and i sent him those pics of the surly's
00:22 < eryc> he was a fan
00:22 <@dasunt> Btw, I'm fond of Deore XT gear, but I think most of Shimano's line (even the cheap stuff) is pretty good compared to what was out there a decade or two ago.
00:22 <@dasunt> The new LX derailers are ugly though.  :p
00:23 <@dasunt> eryc: This may help:  http://www.cyclingforums.com/archive/index.php/t-37973.html
00:24 <@Catonic> dasunt: my experience is that if the brakes are properly setup, rim brakes on a wire may be used to lock both wheels at whim.
00:25 <@dasunt> Catonic: That's my experience.
00:25 <@dasunt> I have a bike set up to not be able to coast.
00:25 <@Catonic> the other problem with a rear suspension is that if you have strong enough muscles, it can flex on heavy application of torque.
00:25 <@dasunt> (Fixed gear in the back).
00:25 < eryc> Catonic: what about hydraulic brakes?
00:26 <@Catonic> never used them. Never needed to.
00:26 <@dasunt> With 20 year old brakes and brake levers, I can stop the bike fast enough that the rear wheel locks up just by resisting on the pedals.  That means I'm braking fast enough that I have almost no weight on the rear wheels.
00:26 <@Catonic> Why would you put hydralics on something as small as a bicycle?
00:26 <@dasunt> Er, rear wheel.
00:26 <@dasunt> Catonic: Some of the mountain biking people do it for some reason.  Dunno why.
00:26 <@Catonic> dasunt: I loved my coaster-brake bike
00:26 <@Catonic> dasunt: because they are wussies that can't ride the bike uphill?
00:27 <@dasunt> Catonic: There's one or two people locally who are building coaster bikes for winter use.
00:27 <@Catonic> I bought a $79 mountain bike from china*mart because I needed basic transportation and exercise.
00:27 <@dasunt> I see single speed bikes more frequently for winter/general use.
00:27 <@Catonic> I found that the potholes in Birmingham are large enough to swallow a bike wheel, and hopping curbs is easier when you have a suspension and a load.
00:28 <@Catonic> dasunt: where I live, we have these things call "hills".
00:28 <@dasunt> Wide tires help as well.
00:28 <@dasunt> Catonic: Yah, this part of Minnesota is pretty flat.
00:28 <@Catonic> everything you want for a bike in winter is what you don't want during the summer in a place with hills.
00:28 <@dasunt> Okay, from the wiki:
00:29 <@dasunt> There are two main types of disc brake: mechanical (cable-actuated) and hydraulic. Mechanical disc brakes are almost always cheaper, but have less modulation, and may accumulate dirt in the cable lines since the cable is usually open to the outside.
00:29 <@Catonic> otoh, I took my car skiing tonight down the interstate.
00:29 <@dasunt> Hydraulic disc brakes use fluid from a reservoir, pushed through a hose, to actuate the pistons in the disc calliper, that actuate the pads. They are better at excluding contaminants, but are difficult to repair on the trail, since they require fairly specialized tools. The brake lines occasionally require bleeding to remove air bubbles, whereas mechanical disc brakes rarely fail completely.
00:29 <@dasunt> So basicallyh, it seems that hydraulic brakes are used if you're playing in the mud 24x7 without cleaning your bike.  :p
00:29 <@Catonic> well, if the mud doesn't have glass in it.
00:30 <@dasunt> ISTM that it's overrated as a system.
00:30 < eryc> yea
00:30 < eryc> was reading that too
00:30 <@dasunt> I'd go with conventional cables if you can get them.
00:30 < eryc> yea i dont want to maintain that shit
00:31 < eryc> simple mechanical for me
00:31 <@dasunt> Disc brakes might be worth it though.
00:31 < eryc> yea definitely getting disc
00:31 <@dasunt> I'm using rim brakes, but my bikes are road bikes.  :D
00:32 < eryc> this one is looking good right now:
00:32 < eryc> http://www.konaworld.com/09_blast_u.cfm
00:32 < eryc> i have another bike now that i use for roading
00:32 < eryc> well, when it gets warmer
00:33 <@dasunt> Pfffft.
00:33 <@Catonic> eryc: you're buying a bike. Welcome to the world of maintenance
00:33 <@dasunt> It got up into the 60s the other day.  That was tshirt weather.
00:33 <@dasunt> :D
00:33 < eryc> im not big on icicles on my face
00:34 < eryc> Catonic: yea pretty much. i tend to break them quickly too.
00:34 <@dasunt> Really, for maintainance, outside of regularly cleaning the chain, I get by without doing a lot of it.
00:34 <@dasunt> I upgrade more often.  :p
00:35 <@Catonic> jujutsu is fun.
00:35 <@Catonic> maintenance is not "spray bike with water, spray with WD-40, spray with silicone grease."
00:36 <@Catonic> I need to learn how to do a real bunny-hop
00:36 < eryc> i can do a bunny hop
00:36 < eryc> but i dont know how to maintain a bike
00:37 < eryc> bunny hop is essential for curbs in the city
00:37 <@dasunt> eryc: Clean the chain regularly, repack bearings once a year or two.
00:37 <@dasunt> Don't leave in the rain.
00:37 <@dasunt> :p
00:37 <@Catonic> eryc: I learned to ride in a place where we had more ramps and no curves
00:38 <@Catonic> *curbs
00:38 <@dasunt> I'd recommend not banding the rear derailleur so it's thrown into the spokes as well.
00:38 <@dasunt> Pros:  Exciting.  Cons:  Not as fun afterwords.
00:38 <@dasunt> Er, banging the rear derailleur
00:38 < eryc> ah
00:38 <@dasunt> Managed to do that about 40 miles from my destination once, damnit.
00:39 <@dasunt> Didn't destroy the wheel, but it autoshifted after that point.
00:39 <@Catonic> if you fill the space between every other spoke, you can make a siren sound in the crosswind.
00:39 <@dasunt> Catonic: You can get spoke cards.  :p
00:40 <@Catonic> I just need to get a small bike that I can ride that carries saddle bags and has low, low gears
00:40 <@dasunt> If you have a used bike shop, just get a triple crankset.
00:40 <@dasunt> Then buy a low 3rd gear.
00:40 <@Catonic> I dont know that we have a used bike shop
00:41 <@dasunt> Buy a triple then anyways and buy a third chain ring that's low.
00:41 <@dasunt> And a wider rear cluster (like 12 teeth to 28 teeth or so).
00:42 <@dasunt> The only problem is that you have to make sure your derailleur can take up the slack.
00:43 <@dasunt> Right now, my bike with gears is set up that way, so I can have a really low granny gear.
00:44 <@Catonic> I met the guy behind stupidhurts.org, and after reading about his travels, I'm tempted to try a long-distance ride myself
00:44 <@Catonic> how many miles a day can you expect to do on a bike?
00:44 <@dasunt> Sanely?
00:44 <@dasunt> Probably around 100 miles in about 8 hours of travel.
00:44 <@dasunt> with a load.
00:44 <@Catonic> sanely, and without .. being in shape for it
00:44 <@dasunt> I've done over 150 myself.
00:45 <@dasunt> Some people do 200 miles.
00:45 <@dasunt> stupidhurts.org guy has a fixed gear.
00:45 <@Catonic> so a little over 20 mph?
00:46 <@dasunt> 20 mph sustained would be hard, IMO.
00:46 <@dasunt> I figure 15 mph sustained is probably a lot more realistic.
00:46 < eryc> if youre in shape
00:47 <@dasunt> When I did the over 150, that took the entire day, including stops.
00:49 <@Catonic> I'm just wondering on a 1400 or 400 mile trip, how many days to allot
00:50 <@dasunt> How much travel do you want to do?
00:50 <@dasunt> Like 8 hours a day? 10?
00:50 <@Catonic> I figure about 8 or so
00:50 <@dasunt> i'd say 100 miles a day should be doable.
00:51 <@Catonic> well, I'd need to move up to clips first
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00:52 <@dasunt> Catonic: I've done it without clips.
00:52 <@dasunt> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/forum/poll/?o=3Tzut&poll_id=39
00:52 <@dasunt> ^- Also check that out.
00:52 <@dasunt> Looks like most people do 45 to 60 miles a day.
00:53 <@dasunt> That seems low to me, but...
01:01 <@dasunt> eryc: You need one of these:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsunad/3064331412/
01:01 <@dasunt> :p
01:06 < eryc> haha
01:06 < eryc> nice
01:06 < eryc> i think all that mess is gone for the season
01:08 < eryc> so that survey says most people do 45-60mpd
01:08 <@dasunt> Where are you at?
01:08 < eryc> dc
01:09 <@dasunt> Ah.
01:09 < eryc> also most people tour 1-2 weeks, either camp/cook or stay at a motel/etc, and either go alone or in small groups
01:10 < eryc> so most people do a max of 850 miles on a tour
01:11 <@dasunt> I can see cooking taking up a lot of time.
01:12 <@dasunt> Putting up and taking down camp.
01:12 <@dasunt> Especially if you camp at *snort* legal campsites.  :p
01:12 < eryc> ya i'd be more inclined to stay at a motel and get a hot shower
01:15 <@dasunt> Supposedly, biovacs aren't supposed to be too bad.
01:15 <@dasunt> As for showers, during our 3 days of summer, that's what lakes are for.  :p
01:15 <@dasunt> Or truck stops.
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06:29 <@Catonic> dasunt: how much does your bike weight when setup for touring?
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07:54 <@Catonic> any bikers around?
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08:01 <@brimstone> like "graa i only eat a bars and abuse women for fun?" or like dasunt?
08:11 <@Catonic> no, I mean people who own a bike that cost more than $200.
08:11 <@Catonic> I'm thinking about purchasing an urban trek bike, but want something that would be OK for touring as well.
08:17 <@Catonic> bi-cy-cle
08:18 <@brimstone> so like dasunt?
08:32 < oddball1> Catonic: I bought a $300 bike before going to college.  Largely because I was pretty abusive on bikes and would go through a $100 Huffy in a couple of months.
08:35 <@Catonic> brimstone: yah
08:35 <@Catonic> oddball1: I'm looking at one that's about $500.
08:35 <@Catonic> we have a pair of 400 ft hills I'd like to cross
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08:36 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:36 < oddball> Hey, if you're going to get seriously into biking, $500 isn't too bad of a price.  As long as you're getting what you want.
08:37 < oddball> Especially if it's a road bike.
08:41 <@Catonic> something like that
08:41 <@Catonic> I need something I can ride to and from work, and hopefully down to the bowling alley for bowling and aikidp
08:47 <@rhia> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hYFqeaPYucpRj4HYr0SikbhsgECwD975CMNG0
09:04  * [1NF0]_Work just got the third degree from our office manager because I eat like crap
09:05 < [1NF0]_Work> ;)
09:05 < [1NF0]_Work> (we're out of junk food ;))
09:06 <@Catonic> [1NF0]_Work: I suggest you go vegan.
09:06 <@Catonic> Then you can eat a lot of beans and literally blow your coworkers out of the office with noxious ass gas.
09:08 < [1NF0]_Work> Catonic: ha!
09:09 < [1NF0]_Work> she noted we were out of potato chips.. I mentioned it's because 2 of us have been essentially living in the office ;)
09:09 < [1NF0]_Work> one of the guys actually has an air mattress in his office ;)
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09:58 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
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10:40 <@Catonic> we're still noy all here, ehh?
10:40 <@Catonic> brimstone: http://microship.com/resources/technomadic-tools.html
10:40 <@Catonic> now that's a bike.
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10:45 <@brimstone> Catonic: good god:
10:45 <@brimstone> NOTE 1:  There were four pushbuttons on each handlebar, and I typed in raw binary.  To form each character, the OR of all the active bits was strobed by the transition to no bits (when I let go).  The action was synchronous and without the speed advantages of ?n-key rollover,? but I was able to reach about half my normal typing speed.
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: I doubt he was thinking raw binary... more likely he was thinking hexadecimal...
11:03 <@brimstone> :P
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11:03 <@Corydon76-dig> It's far easier to type that way with 8 toggle switches, when you think of the switches as high-8, high-4, high-2, high-1, low-8, low-4, low-2, and low-1
11:04 <@Catonic> isn't that though?
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11:14 <@TheLightcosine> okay here's a stupid question
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11:14 <@TheLightcosine> when you set a program to run at startup in linux what user does it get run as?
11:15 < ware> http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090324/MICRO060301/90324072
11:15 <@TheLightcosine> does it egt run as a system suer, as root, or as the suer logging in?
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11:25 <@brimstone> how are you "setting it to run at startup?"
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11:30 <@TheLightcosine> brim: from the sessions menu, i figured it out it's running as logged in suer
11:30 <@TheLightcosine> which elaves me with my original mystery
11:30 <@brimstone> so, via gnome, ok
11:31 <@TheLightcosine> oh yeah
11:31 <@TheLightcosine> sorry =P
11:31 <@TheLightcosine> my conky if i have it run at startup doesn't embedd into the background properly
11:31 <@TheLightcosine> it covers anything that mvoes itno the same space as it, but if i kill it and relaunch it from terminal it works fine
11:36 <@brimstone> are you sure you're starting it the same way?
11:36 <@brimstone> there's something in conky about making it's own windows for nautalis and being set to bottom level
11:39 <@TheLightcosine> hrm if i instead set a bash script to launch it that should simulate launching it from term i'll give that a try
11:40 <@brimstone> good luck
11:42 <@TheLightcosine> i gotta take an image of mny linux aprt on the laptop anyways i'm gunna wipe it down to changethe vista aprtition from the oem home premium to ultimate x64
11:42 <@TheLightcosine> i'll figure out conky afterwards heh
11:45 < Dolemite> y
11:45 < Dolemite> 0
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11:46 <@TheLightcosine> o
11:46 <@TheLightcosine> y
11:48 < ware> wutup
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12:10 <@TheLightcosine> wow
12:10 <@TheLightcosine> you know you work your ass off
12:11 <@TheLightcosine> you do extra projects, you write applications for your company for free
12:11 <@TheLightcosine> and you get no recognition
12:11 <@TheLightcosine> but you find a security flaw in a payroll system and blam-o it's instant recognition
12:11 < Dolemite> exploit said flaw in payroll system and you get paid!
12:14 < ware> http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/
12:19 <@Drag0n`> recognition is in direct proportion to the risk to the execuitve bonuses, user apps that dont make money for execs? yawn, payrole bug that makes his bonuses safe, big kudo's
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12:19 <@TheLightcosine> heh
12:20 <@TheLightcosine> it's just the timesheet app
12:20 <@TheLightcosine> it doesn't control like say what your actual annual salary is
12:20 <@TheLightcosine> but i could use it go access anyone's timesheet, or access it as a manager to approve timsheets, etc
12:22 <@Drag0n`> so you could say, create a fake user and enter time and approve said time for payment
12:22 <@TheLightcosine> something like that
12:23 < Dolemite> just like Soc did on Reaper last week
12:23 <@TheLightcosine> ?
12:23 < Dolemite> the TV show, Reaper
12:23 <@TheLightcosine> never heard of it
12:23 <@Drag0n`> well, if you cut into company profits, or fuck up their botom line, that impacts their bonuses
12:23 < Dolemite> guy turns 18, find out from his parents that they sold his soul to the devil
12:23 <@TheLightcosine> lol
12:23 < Dolemite> he has to hunt down escaped souls as part of his contract
12:24 < Dolemite> works at "The Work Bench" (aka Lowes/Home Depot) with a couple of other clowns
12:24 <@Drag0n`> umm, non binding contract? they have no authority over his soul?
12:24 < Dolemite> Kevin Smith wrote the pilot for it
12:24 < Dolemite> Drag0n`: This is the devil we're talking about.  He has more lawyers at his disposal than anybody.
12:25 < Dolemite> it's in the second season, now, and starting to get a lot better
12:25 < Dolemite> first season started to stray towards the middle of the season
12:25 < Dolemite> Ray Price plays the devil *perfectly*
12:25 <@TheLightcosine> http://www.3rd-space-vest.info/?gclid=CNyY7omOwZkCFQazsgodMCtPuQ
12:25 <@TheLightcosine> unbeleivable the crap they are marketing to "gamers" these days
12:26 < Dolemite> Anyway, Soc, one of the friends at The Work Bench, had been turning in a timecard for a nonexistent worker for several years...
12:26 <@TheLightcosine> rofl
12:26 <@TheLightcosine> and collecting the checks?
12:26 < Dolemite> yep
12:26 <@TheLightcosine> awesome
12:26 < Dolemite> his friend Andi gets promoted to manager
12:26 < Dolemite> so she tells him that the fake guy has to resign
12:27 < Dolemite> so Soc then files a sexual harassment complaint against Andi because he figured that would solve her problem, lol
12:27 < Dolemite> files the complaint as fictitious worker, that is
12:28 < Dolemite> er, Ray Wise plays the devil, not Ray Price.  heh.
12:42 <@Evilpig> best spam EVER!
12:42 <@Evilpig> This is yoour penis: 8--o
12:42 <@Evilpig> This is yoour penis on drugs: 8=====O
12:43 <@Evilpig> Any questioons? 
12:43 < fie> this is my penis: :-o
12:43 < Falun> I think that might replace my current favorite: "do you want to smash things with your dick? take ________"
12:43 < fie> this is my penis in your mouth:   :-o:
12:44 <@Evilpig> I just noticed that was sent to flames-owner@se2600.org heh
12:45 < fie> 8-=-o
12:58 < ware> haha
13:04 < ware> Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
13:04 < ware> i love that line
13:04 < ware> especially coming from a luser whos 'microsoft is down'
13:05 < ware> http://snarkmarket.com/blog/snarkives/Obama%20Fingers.jpg
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13:42 <@Dagmar> Yay for clean!  Buy.com has roombas on sale again
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13:44 <@Dagmar> Looks like today is a good day for being cheap.  Eee PC 900 (refurbished) $179 too
13:45 <@brimstone> i like being cheap!
13:45 < oddball> Which set up is that?
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13:47 < oddball> Ah, the Celeron with 4GB SSD and 512MB RAM.
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13:48 < oddball> Naienko is pretty happy with her 700 that has a 4GB drive, and it works pretty well for her.
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13:50 <@Dagmar> Hopefully the 530 Roomba will have enough oompf to do the whole front end of the apartment, then I can relegate the other one to my bedroom and just put the charger under the bed.
13:50 <@Dagmar> ...since everyone knows monsters under the bed hate vacuum cleaners.
13:51 <@Dagmar> They've got the "entry level" grey Roomba remanuf'd (i.e., fixed up) for $117.99
13:51 < oddball> How well do those things actually work?
13:57 <@Dagmar> They actually do a good job
13:58 <@Dagmar> Just watch out for long bits of thread.  They can tangle up and foul the thing just like any vacuum cleaner
13:59 <@Dagmar> I've got one that's broken (hey, long bits of thread and me not noticing) and aside from it being a little dodgy to get the shell off it, they're like a Fisher Price toy on the inside in the simplicity of design
13:59 <@Dagmar> Super goddamn easy to work on
14:01 < ware> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29892601/
14:11 < oddball> ah, cool
14:11  * oddball wonders how bad Naienko's hair would fuck it up.
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14:11 <@Dagmar> Can't be any worse than Lindsey's
14:12 <@oddball> I'm pretty sure that Nai's hair is longer.
14:12 <@Dagmar> It was getting wrapped around the rollers pretty regularly, but hair isn't strong enough to fuck it up by itself
14:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: you should subscribe to the linux-elitists list.  I'm sure you and Rick Moen would get along fine.
14:13 <@Dagmar> Cleaning the thing is dead easy
14:13 <@oddball> When it's as long as Nai's, it can be due to how many times it wraps around the roller.
14:13 <@Corydon76-dig> (Not really)
14:13 <@Dagmar> Cordyon: I'd rather not.  I think he's a dick.
14:13 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm having fun toying with him today
14:13 <@Dagmar> If Hug Me expected to get away with snarking at *Linux* over what's a "failed to read documentation" problem, that's his mistake
14:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Compared him with a spammer, I have
14:14 <@Dagmar> Rick's a cock
14:14 <@Dagmar> I had to put up with his bullshit back in California
14:15 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm doing it just to see if Don Marti decides to reject his request
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14:45 <@nachoguy> Dagmar, so what roomba would you suggest for a pretty big L shaped room; while dealing with long hair on the carpet?
14:47 <@nachoguy> Do I need the super shiny top of the line to make it take care of either of those requirements?
14:47 <@Dagmar> No that I'm aware of
14:50 <@Dagmar> The front part of my apartment is actually pretty large.  Kitchen, dining area, den area and a hallway, the entry-level Roomba would do the whole thing before getting tired and going back to it's charger
14:51 <@Dagmar> If you're the typicaly bachelor, allow me to suggest that you actually vacuum this space yourself once before you start telling the Roomba to do it
14:51 <@Dagmar> Otherwise it's liable to be so filthy the thing will just get filled up and start singing it's "I'm full, come empty me" song
14:53 <@Dagmar> After I'd gotten over that initial rush of dust, I never had to do much more than go step on it's go button and not trample it over the next hour as it waandered around the apartment grumbling to itself
15:01 < ware> anyone got a link for Obama's speech earlier today
15:01 < ware> the online questionarie town hall dealio
15:10 <@nachoguy> dagmar, oh, it doesn't run automatically like every day at 2 or some such?
15:10 <@Dagmar> You can make them do that
15:10 <@Dagmar> I was too lazy
15:19 < aestetix> Hey
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15:19 <@aestetix> I got a job :)
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15:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: Dunno what happened, but after asking Moen to pay $5 for each needless flame he sends, he suddenly shut up
15:32 <@nachoguy> Sweet!
15:32 <@nachoguy> what're you going to be doing?
15:33 <@Dagmar> Getting fucking rich soon I'll bet
15:33 <@nachoguy> and almost as important, if they're in SF, do they need a Sysadmin?  My buddy is still looking
15:33 <@Dagmar> Tick won't be able to be silent for long
15:33 <@Dagmar> s/Tick/Rick/;
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15:34 <@Corydon76-dig> I proposed it in the form of a donation to the Linux Foundation
15:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Me for distortive rhetorical overkill, him for needless flames
15:36 <@Corydon76-dig> (That's what he accused me of)
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15:45 <@Dagmar> Wow.  That's a fancy fucking way to say "I don't like that you argue with me"
15:45 <@Dagmar> But then again, Rick's a cock.
15:45 <@Dagmar> ..and yeah, he has a tendency to just say "I'm not going to defend my argument, I'm just going to attack you personally after one round"
15:46 <@Dagmar> ,..and then ramble on about how he can do that because he's such a valuable asset to the community
15:46 <@Dagmar> I told him to go fuck himself and plonked him
15:46 <@Corydon76-dig> He's an asset?
15:46 <@Dagmar> Apaprently he provides some webspace or somesuch
15:46 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't know what he even does, other than flame people
15:47 <@Dagmar> ...and like DJB he's coded some stuff in the past, but mainly he's just a cock to people
15:48 <@Dagmar> After studying three month's worth of his posts, it became clear he knows no form of argumentation that isn't fallactious
15:48 <@Dagmar> Appeal to false authority, undistributed middle, etc etc
15:48 <@Dagmar> s/fallact/fallac/;
15:48 <@Dagmar> If you call him on them, he starts using personal attacks pretty much immediately
15:49 <@Dagmar> ...which is why you got hit up with the accusation of "distortive rhetorical overkill".  You argued with him at all.
15:50 <@Dagmar> ...and if you point out that his argument is actually "distortive rhetorical overkill" itself, expect he's probably going to say "I called you that first" or somesuch
15:55 <@Evilpig> I want to punch the software engineer that was responsible for the trash they call microsof publisher
15:55 <@Dagmar> lol
15:56 <@Evilpig> recoding this site is a fucking nightmare cause of them
15:56 <@aestetix> sweet, there's woot off today!
15:56 <@Dagmar> NeoTron: They're not crap talents, they're just not useful to you
15:58 < eryc> who's that
15:58 < eryc> NEOTRON NOT FOUND
15:59 <@Evilpig> gonna talk to these guys about putting gallery in place instead of these crappy html files.  then work on this massive news flub they have going on
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16:42 <@Dagmar> eryc: I'm sorry, did my mis-tell interrupt your COMPLETE FUCKING SILENCE somehow?
16:42 < ware> http://checkusernames.com/
16:46 < eryc> the silence is deafening
16:48 <@Dagmar> Sorry, it takes awhile to check the sites that page malfunctions on to be sure someone's not using yer nym
16:52 < fie> cool site
16:52 < fie> also cocks
16:52 < fie> going home <3
16:54 <@Dagmar> Yay got the number for those LHR fucks this time
16:54 <@Dagmar> They're about to stop calling this fucking office
16:57 <@oddball> LHR?
17:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Large Hadron Research
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17:09 < eryc> hm, thats alot of social networking
17:09 < eryc> im only reg'd on like 6 of those.  i need to get on that to reserve my uberleet handle.
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17:12 <@Drag0n> carefull, dont piss off the lhr crew, they will send the headcrabs after you
17:14 <@Dagmar> Doubtful
17:14 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure with a little prompting I can have the network people here block their outbound CID from calling this office
17:16 < eryc> remember to look up
17:16 < eryc> the headcrabs are sneaky
17:23 <@brimstone> f'n headcrabs
17:23 <@tzanger> head crabs?
17:24 <@brimstone> http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20070508/headcrab.jpg
17:25 <@brimstone> usually seen like this: http://www.visualwalkthroughs.com/halflife2/novaprospekt/12.jpg
17:26 <@tzanger> lovely
17:26 < eryc> if you didnt know about headcrabs im not sure you should be allowed to use a computer
17:27 <@brimstone> goty 1999 eh?
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17:27 <@brimstone> a decade ago
17:27 < ware> lolololol
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17:28 <@Shadow404> dammit, you got me all excited about episode 3 again
17:28 <@Shadow404> damn you
17:34 <@Dagmar> When's that coming out?
17:36 <@Shadow404> tbd for the last year and half
17:37 <@Drag0n> its on the dnf scedule
17:38 <@Shadow404> basically
17:38 <@Shadow404> looking forward to both games
17:38 <@Shadow404> both are gonna kickass
17:39 <@Shadow404> i have played duke nukem since it was a side scroller
17:39 <@Shadow404> on a 386 heh
17:49 <@Dagmar> Unlike DNF, HL:EP3 will probably actually come out
17:49 <@brimstone> just after the next 2 CS release and another earth shattering game
17:49 <@brimstone> like left 4 dead or something
17:50 < ware> new counter-strike comin out?
17:53 <@Drag0n> just lets hope they dont go MMO on us, Left 4 Dead Land or something
17:57 <@brimstone> heh
17:57 <@brimstone> isn't that just l4d on expert? zombies everywhere?
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18:29 <@sasquatc4> anyone know of any portable dev environments, besides portable python? just wonderin if there are any others out there
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18:33 < coil> holy shit
18:34 < coil> im back in huntsville  bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:35 < coil>  6:49PM  up 237 days, 20:37, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
18:35 < coil> i win the home connection uptime with out ups contest
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19:27 <@Dagmar> God *damn* the big fight scene in the last Dollhouse is brutal
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21:42 < astralsin-> for any homebrewers in the crowd, my latest batch is pretty fucking good
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22:53 <@Dagmar> Can you say... HOLY SHIT!
22:53 <@Dagmar> http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/
22:56 <@brimstone> i did, monday
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23:03 <@sdodson> ohhai guiz!
23:23 <+xGeek> who
23:23 <+xGeek> actually I need to sleep
23:23 <+xGeek> its fucking hot in here
23:23 <+xGeek> I bet my sheets are nice and cool
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23:49 < eryc> why did they make a movie about furries?
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