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00:00 <@sdodson> yup, and they're going back to blue lettering
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00:55 <@aestetix> hey
00:55 <@aestetix> wanna see what a job fair in san francisco looks like?
00:55 <@aestetix> http://www.flickr.com/photos/vniow/3358282723/
01:40 < dasunt_> Weeee.
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01:47 <@aestetix> hahah
01:47 <@aestetix> what do nine out of ten people enjoy?
01:47 < dasunt_> Sex?
01:47 <@aestetix> gang rape
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01:48 < dasunt> aestetix: Ah yes, I have also called Dell tech support.
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07:35 < dasunt> Gawdamn people in this channel aren't up bright and early on a Monday morning.
07:37 <@aestetix> man
07:37 <@brimstone> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:37 <@aestetix> rather than sleeping, I'm working on my notacon talk
07:39 <@I-MOD> dasunt, yeah, we're just not talking so much
07:39 <@I-MOD> i was at work 40 minutes ago
07:42 <@critch> I'm in now
07:44 < dasunt> Gawdamn it, some rat bastard used up all the coffee and did not replace it.
07:44  * dasunt blames a cat.
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07:56 < Vyrus001> mmm notacon
07:57 <@aestetix> what up Vyrus001
07:57  * aestetix should have been asleep 4 hours ago
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07:59 < Vyrus001> aestetix: heh sup
07:59 <@aestetix> been coding all night
07:59 < Vyrus001> new app?
07:59 <@aestetix> did you see the twitter thing I'm working on?
08:00 <@aestetix> more like overhauled a ton of stuff in the system...
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08:57 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:49 <@Drag0n`> mourning
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11:02 <@nachoguy> Digi-ites, you guys having bandwidth/connection issues?
11:03 <@nachoguy> The main asterisk.org page took 5 minutes to load, I'm trying to read up about the vuln on the main page
11:04 <@brimstone> i don't think so...
11:05 <@nachoguy> odd
11:05 <@nachoguy> I just got another timeout
11:05 <@nachoguy> maybe the webserver is just pegged and it's not a bandwidth issue.
11:06 <@nachoguy> I don't have any issues hitting other websites
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11:35 <@nachoguy> now, super fast
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12:38 <@brimstone> huh, DX changed their cheap webcams
12:38 <@brimstone> still work with linux though, but they're different, slightly
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13:43  * sdodson confirms that nagios is still just as frustrating as it was years ago
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13:47 <@digitalirony> anyone want a free @asshatpirates.org address? its gmail hostes
13:47 <@digitalirony> *hosted
13:47 <@sdodson> Where do I see the actual command that nagios is running?
13:50 <@sdodson> oh i see now
13:50 <@sdodson> kthnx
13:54 <@sdodson> Note to self: make sure I don't use passwords with characters that need to be escaped
14:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> Note to self: make sure I don't use passwords that require more than 3 key strokes
14:16 <@Corydon76-lap> sdodson: you mean like control characters or extended ASCII?
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14:22 < eryc> no like `
14:23 < xGeek> "What's your password??? The letter a."
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14:26 <@oddball> ok... what the hell.  Someone turned the A/C *off* at work.  Not switched to heat, not bumped the thermostat up... turned it off.
14:43 <@sdodson> Corydon76-lap: I mean like |
14:44 <@sdodson> apparently my leet config management hackery doesn't properly escape everything
14:51 <@brimstone> sdodson: svn up?
14:51 <@sdodson> brimstone: git + puppet
14:52 < eryc> how you liking git?
14:52 <@sdodson> eryc: I'm using it in the same way I'd use svn.
14:53 <@sdodson> My development isn't refined enough to take advantage of it's more advanced features.
14:53 <@brimstone> i thought git's big thing is there is no central repo?
14:53 < eryc> it can do both
14:53 <@brimstone> you just pull patches from other people, or push for that matter
14:53 < eryc> whats the webui for git? like viewvc for svn?
14:53 <@sdodson> MBP with ATI X1600 should be able to drive a 1680x1050 display, right?
14:53 <@brimstone> github?
14:53 <@brimstone> sdodson: HA! not likely
14:54 <@brimstone> (actually, it probably would, i'm just trolling)
14:54 <@sdodson> brimstone: Well considering this is internal configuration management stuff, no I'm not using github.
14:55 < eryc> you can download github?
14:55 < eryc> ..yea
14:55  * sdodson hacks on his laptop, makes sure it compiles, pushes to git repo which then pushes to the puppet tree
14:55 < eryc> no i want to know what the webui would be
14:55 < eryc> like mod_svn or viewvc
14:55 < eryc> so i can give people urls to files
14:55 <@brimstone> mod_git? or viewgit?
14:55 <@brimstone> :P
14:56 <@sdodson> eryc: gitweb
14:56 <@brimstone> i thought you could just expose your git dir like http?
14:56 <@brimstone> yeah, gitweb
14:56 <@sdodson> ya you can do that too
14:56 <@sdodson> http://git.kernel.org/gitweb.cgi
14:57 < eryc> great thanks
14:58 <@sdodson> I just use ssh+git
14:58 < eryc> im using svn currently
14:58 <@sdodson> I'd say, if you've got svn in place and you're comfortable with it use it.
14:59 <@sdodson> If you're just now deploying scm then go with git.
14:59 <@sdodson> or hg or yattayatta
14:59 <@brimstone> why git or hg or yattayatta over svn?
15:00 <@sdodson> Because (git,bzr,hg) > (svn,cvs)
15:00 < eryc> does git version the whole repos like svn? or each file?
15:00 <@sdodson> The whole tree for each commit is referencable.
15:00 <@sdodson> brimstone: Because git does everything that svn or cvs does and then more.
15:01 <@sdodson> afaik there's nothing that svn or cvs do better than git, so may as well use git if you're just starting scm even if you're not going to use all of the features.
15:01 < eryc> is there a TortoiseGit?
15:01 <@brimstone> what do you need in scm that svn can't provide?
15:01 < eryc> offline versioning
15:02 <@brimstone> how does offline versioning apply to config files?
15:02 <@brimstone> i don't understand
15:02 <@sdodson> I can't think of anything, but knowing that git has vastly more features and support distributed development it doesn't make sense to start a project using something that doesn't.
15:03 < eryc> i wasnt being specific to CFM
15:03 <@sdodson> I can build up things on my laptop feature by feature while on the airplane then when when I land push that all back to the master and maintain each commit discretely
15:03 <@sdodson> eryc: looks like it http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/
15:04 <@sdodson> brimstone: Like I said, I don't think I need anything beyond what svn provides. But why would you start soemthing new under svn knowing that there's a better option with vastly more capabilities?
15:04 <@sdodson> I don't know if I'll never use those capabilities so I may as well have them anyway and not suffer through migration later.
15:06 < eryc> i hear bazaar is better
15:06 <@sdodson> That's fine, use it then.
15:06 < eryc> you're missing out
15:06 < eryc> all those FEATURES
15:06 <@sdodson> 16:00 <@sdodson> Because (git,bzr,hg) > (svn,cvs)
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15:12 <@brimstone> sdodson: but svn does what i need to, it's been around for a while, pretty stable, there's a good user base and most of all: people know how to use it
15:13 <@brimstone> why throw something crazy new into the mix?
15:17 <@sdodson> It's not crazy new.
15:17 < eryc> all those FEATURES
15:18 <@sdodson> you can both diaf
15:18 < eryc> ha
15:19 < eryc> nah i think its useful to know about these others
15:19 < eryc> im going to give them each a test run and see if theres a compelling reason to change my pretty viewvc ui
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15:19 <@sdodson> To me it just seems illadvised to start using a paradigm that's dying.
15:19 < eryc> right now i just use svn to manage build scripts but soon im going to need svm for puppet
15:20 < eryc> scm even
15:20 <@sdodson> Did mercster finally leave?
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15:23 < [1NF0]_Work> if only...
15:26  * polerin sighs
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15:34 <@Corydon76-lap> sdodson: no, you banned him, remember?
15:34 <@aestetix> wow, check this out
15:34 <@aestetix> There's an online system you can use to file for unemployment in NYC
15:35 < [1NF0]_Work> did ya fill it out?
15:35 <@aestetix> They have a direct deposit system... it has an example check to show you where the routing numbers are, etc
15:35 <@aestetix> The name on the check: "Thomas Anderson"
15:35 < [1NF0]_Work> heh
15:35 <@aestetix> It's totally Neo's bank account
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15:41 <@nachoguy> Aestetix, how can you file in NY, I thought you were in SF?
15:41 <@nachoguy> bah, s/?/./
15:41 <@aestetix> I filed right before I moved.
15:42 <@nachoguy> ah
15:42 <@nachoguy> I take it that there's no good leads yet
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15:55 <@Dementia> hey nachoguy, enjoying this weather?
15:55 <@sdodson> Corydon76-lap: he's been in here a few times after that
15:57 <@nachoguy> Dementia, indeed. I spent some time outdoors this weekend
15:57 <@Dementia> yeah, it was nice to be outside and not have my fingers go numb
15:58 <@nachoguy> pop quiz: how do you get a users full name from the command line when it is in the gecos field?  I'm using ldap, so catting /etc/passwd won't work.
15:58 <@oddball> Dementia: by the way, have fun at MidSouth.  I'm going to have to skip out this time around. (unfortunately)
15:58 <@Dementia> Aww. well I'll see you at Hypericon, though?
15:58 <@oddball> oh hell yes.
15:58 <@sdodson> I don't know but I did save a lot on my car insurance.
15:58 <@Dementia> Sweet :D
16:00 <@oddball> Naienko and I can swing having a house warming party on that Saturday, but not quite hit a con.
16:01 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
16:01 <@Dagmar> oddball: did you hear about the LFG movie problems?
16:02 <@oddball> heh... yeah...
16:03 <@Dementia> Well, even if I don't make it to a housewarming party, I'd like to see the new digs sometime on Hypericon weekend
16:03 <@oddball> sounds good
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17:09 < eryc> which editor is it that creates file~ files?
17:10 <@nachoguy> emacs and emacs clones
17:10 <@nachoguy> like joe, iirc
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17:11 <@nachoguy> our old CIO caused issues several times by editing config files with it.  and when you edit files in /etc/apache/configured_sites/  well, you get it trying to load up all the files.  badness ensues
17:12 < eryc> ha
17:12 < eryc> why does emacs create the ~ files?
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17:12 < eryc> is it a backup?
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17:13 < eryc> hm looks like it
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17:16 <@nachoguy> yeah, it;s a backup
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17:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> alright kids... I'm headed to the gym
17:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> if you want to join me please let me know via SMS
17:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> word
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18:24 < eryc> nachoguy: thanks, got to use that in a bitchy email ;)
18:33 <@sdodson> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/thread.html Chuck Forsberg's threads here about a wedged fs make me wonder how he ever wrote zmodem.
18:52 < eryc> sandeen's response is quite hilarious
18:54 <@sdodson> He's a cool guy.
18:55 <@sdodson> Support is flexing it's muscle within the company so he came down for a visit a few weeks ago to give some technical talks on FS stuff.
18:57 < eryc> i wonder who actually uses this guys "Industrial ZMODEM"
18:58 < eryc> his website is like a time warp back to 1985
18:58 <@sdodson> He's one of the original BBS guys.
18:59 <@sdodson> It may be widely used for things like uploading ios over serial or something
19:03 < eryc> apparently that still uses xmodem
19:03 < eryc> i hear nasa still uses kermit
19:04 < eryc> and according to wikipedia all this guy has done since 1986 after developing ymodem and zmodem, is operate his ham radio and try to sell zmodem-90 licenses for $3800 apiece
19:05 <@sasquatc4> alot of embedded stuff still uses x/z/etc, but usually its just for emergency or early development type of stuff
19:05 < eryc> but im assuming most of it uses the public domain zmodem that telenet funded in 1986
19:06 < eryc> im sure there is embedded stuff using it, otherwise he wouldnt be selling it
19:06 <@sasquatc4> yah
19:07 < eryc> i just think it seems odd that thats all this guy has going
19:07 <@sasquatc4> indeed
19:14 <@sdodson> maybe he's rich as fuck from it and all he wants to do now is post to mailing lists
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19:26 < eryc> http://www.anus.com/etc/textfiles/USERS/LEECH_T.TXT
19:27 < eryc> A registered user in the Houston area has sent me a copy of a hacked and
19:27 < eryc> unprotected version of my 05-07-88 release of DSZ.  The name that appears on
19:27 < eryc> the program is "Leech Terminator".  This user has told me that he might be a
19:27 < eryc> member of this bulletin board.  He/She is guilty of copyright infringement and
19:27 < eryc> the demarcating of my many weeks of work that I put into writing it
19:27 < eryc> heh
19:27 <@Corydon76-lap> sdodson: maybe he finally figured out that his constant trolling was not welcome here
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19:32 < eryc> his house isnt very impressive.. seems like a dirty hippy living in the woods on the outskirts of town
19:32 < eryc> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=45.594984,-122.872741&t=h&z=19
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19:48 <@dasunt> We passed upon the stand.
19:48 <@dasunt> Spoken was and when.
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20:01 < eryc> http://badpaintingsofbarackobama.com/
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20:08 <@sasquatc4> anyone seen that deception of obama vid? wonderin if it was worth watching, like thought provoking at all, or just a bunch of obvious  retardedness
20:17 < eryc> i started to but it was too annoying
20:17 < eryc> i was wondering the same
20:18 < eryc> it would be fun if he was somehow tied to the new world order cult
20:19 <@sasquatc4> k, good to know
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20:56 < eryc> http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20090315.gif
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22:04 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: eh, i don't think it was constant trolling
22:04 <@sdodson> mgalgoci: welcome back
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22:50 <@sdodson> http://www.leenks.com/link156394.html
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22:57 <@sdodson> http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/shaven-pussy.jpg
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22:58 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: this is better:  http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7r69TrIecR8/SY8QHvQjlTI/AAAAAAABM1A/iTstq4qMKmo/s1600-h/141(5).jpg
22:59 < eryc> shutup fag
22:59 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: rot in hell
23:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
23:00 <@Corydon76-dig> See, I told you it was better
23:01 <@sdodson> That's not cool at all.
23:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, did I forget the NSFW tag?  Sorry 'bout that
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23:06 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: LOL!
23:11 <@dasunt> So what's up?
23:11 < eryc> faggotry
23:12 <@Corydon76-dig> eryc: Have a problem with that?
23:12 <@dasunt> eryc: Yes, yes, we know, you're straight, that's why you act so offended.
23:12 <@dasunt> That was pretty damn funny.
23:12  * dasunt snickers again.
23:13 <@sdodson> I can deal with the ocassional unexpected cock pic. It's the guys swimming in jizz that's going to haunt me.
23:13 <@Corydon76-dig> That's soapy water
23:13 <@timoguin> And by "haunt you," you mean make you masturbate?
23:13  * dasunt laughs.
23:14 <@Corydon76-dig> And out of like 30 guys, I can see only a single cock
23:14 <@timoguin> I saw two.
23:14 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Your imagination working overtime for the remaining 29?  :p
23:14 <@timoguin> Because I was counting to see how many cocks were visible.
23:15 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: maybe 3
23:15 <@timoguin> Two whole, one tip.
23:15 <@timoguin> haha
23:15 <@timoguin> Anyway, back to my reading.
23:15 <@Corydon76-dig> 2 tips
23:16 <@Corydon76-dig> guy in the water, with his hands on his head, you can see it peeking out
23:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, 3 whole, 2 tips
23:17 <@Corydon76-dig> This is like Where's Waldo?
23:17 <@dasunt> You guys are going to make the repressed homosexuals and bisexuals in this channel worry themselves tonight.
23:17 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: I dunno if there are any repressed in this channel
23:18 <@dasunt> eryc's out of the closet?
23:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, I shouldn't say that.  There's a few in this channel I don't know
23:19 <@sdodson> haha, bojangles is in the top 15 restaraunts listed in yelp.com for Raleigh, NC.
23:24 < eryc> Corydon76-dig: problem with what?
23:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Didn't think so
23:26 < eryc> you acting like a immature faggot?
23:26 < eryc> yes.
23:28 <@sdodson> you tell em with those big adult words and stuff
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23:35 < eryc> im sure its nothing like when his parents disowned him for sucking cock.
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23:37 <@Peaches84> mmm cock sucking mmm
23:37 <@Peaches84> nomm nomm nomm lol
23:42 < eryc> did your uncle rape you as a kid?
23:43 <@Peaches84> why do you ask?
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