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08:08 < fie_work> the frosting on this honey bun kinda looks like cum
08:08 < fie_work> if it is I probably deserve it.
08:09 <@dasunt> :(
08:47 < fie_work> It's funny cuz it's true!
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08:49 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:52 < fie_work> You can't give someone something to live for if you keep giving everyone nothing to live for.
09:06 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
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09:14 <@nachoguy> morning Peaches
09:22 < fie_work> Peaches1984, How's it going?
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09:28 < Peaches1984> i am good how are you
09:29 < Peaches1984> Just laying in the bed not wanting to get up
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09:31 <@nachoguy> hey Mirage, how goes?
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09:41 < fie_work> Peaches1984, I know the feeling.
09:41 < fie_work> damn having to work to get monies!
09:42 <@critch> hehe, in about a month I'll be laying in bed and still getting paid.
09:42 <@critch> with a raise too
09:42 < fie_work> surgery?
09:43 <@critch> nope, current job offered a counter offer to the new job I was about to take. But I will have next to nothing, and no office by end of April.
09:43 < fie_work> finally going through with the sex change?
09:43 <@critch> oops, next to nothing to do.
09:45 <@critch> nachoguy: did you get your Ts up again?
09:48 <@nachoguy> just did
09:48 <@critch> damn, that took a while
09:48 <@nachoguy> apparently, when they turn you off for non payment, even after they reactivate it, you need to bounce all of your Ts to get the running again.
09:49 <@critch> hmm, looks like they expected it to be permanent then.
09:49 <@nachoguy> apparently they turned it back on Tuesday night.  They refused to tell me that until the 24 hour period was up (hey we didn't pay, I understand the reps not wanting to go offscript.
09:49 <@critch> When we went through a similar incident, it was just a switch config to block calls.
09:50 <@nachoguy> however, the calls would still fail until I did an asterisk and wanrouter restart
09:50 <@nachoguy> yeah, same for us
09:50 <@critch> See for us, we dodn't have to restart anything. It just started completing calls again.
09:51 <@nachoguy> it was very bizarre, the Ts never went down, they just cut off all longdistance calls (every call we make)
09:51 <@nachoguy> and apparently it took the restart to clear it
09:51 <@nachoguy> very weird
09:51 <@nachoguy> but now I can toss these things back into rotation and not worry about maxing channels and blocking corporate calls
09:51 <@critch> Of course ours was for a vender non payment. Seems they originally wanted to put us on a T3 when we only wanted 2 T1s. They couldn't get the T3 in fast enough so they dropped copper for us. Then the vendor decided that the T3 bill didn't need to be paid. Ended up cutting our copper pair at the same time.
09:53 <@nachoguy> nice
09:53 < fall0ut> that sounds like an asterisk bug
09:54 < fall0ut> more reasons to never put a PRI or any TDM into a PC
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09:55 <@nachoguy> fallout, more than likely it was something on their side that didn't flush the restriction until the lines dropped and restarted
09:55 <@critch> fall0ut: what is a switch but a big purpose built computer.
09:55 <@nachoguy> their techs asked me to do so
09:56 < fall0ut> critch: a lot of dsps that do stuff a lot better than digium :)
09:56 < fall0ut> some switches not so much
09:57 <@nachoguy> fall0ut, I actually get very good debugging info from asterisk+sangoma.
09:57 < fall0ut> heh
09:58 < fall0ut> I just like to hate on asterisk
09:58 <@critch> I haven't had to debug any asterisk issues since asterisk started sending SIG{PIPE} to AGI apps.
09:58 < fall0ut> because I don't like Digium
09:58 < fall0ut> and their shit does not scale very well
09:59 < GodFix[HC]> http://maximumpc.com/article/news/man_keeps_linux_distro_his_prosthetic_finger
09:59 <@critch> does not scale well helps one build a better high available system.
09:59 < fall0ut> staying in the media path all the time does not help one build a highly available system
10:00 <@critch> in my case, 99.99% of calls end in the asterisk box. So it is all I need up.
10:01 < fall0ut> doing asterisk and 99.999% or higher is hard
10:01 <@nachoguy> fall0ut, it depends.  If you've got the time to do it right, asterisk can get you the reliability you need
10:02 < fall0ut> there are other far superior products
10:02 < fall0ut> and projects for that matter
10:02 <@critch> In my case, I dissabled so many modules, I don't get affected by most of the security problems.
10:02 <@critch> Of course I have been using asterisk since '01
10:02 < fall0ut> I've been using asterisk for a long time, too
10:03 < fall0ut> it just doesn't work for a service provider
10:03 < fall0ut> it might work to replace a PBX
10:03 < fall0ut> but I wouldn't even replace a fairly large PBX with it
10:04 < GodFix[HC]> http://maximumpc.com/article/news/samsungs_new_video_makes_us_want_24_ssds
10:06 <@nachoguy> if all you need is to have a call center and you've got a lot of reps, maybe something else would be easier to roll out, but you'll pay for it
10:06 <@nachoguy> if the company you work for doesn't have much money, or they want weird custom crap, asterisk is the way to go
10:06 <@nachoguy> as far as I'm concerned
10:07 < fall0ut> there are better open source products
10:07 < fall0ut> for call center
10:07 <@nachoguy> like what?
10:07 <@nachoguy> it's been a while since I've looked, and I'm always willing to give things a fair shake
10:08 < fall0ut> Freeswitch, SipX
10:08 < fall0ut> Interactive Intelligence is probably the best callcenter solution
10:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> RTFM is the best call center solution
10:09 <@nachoguy> freeswitch didn't actually have any features that worked last time we checked it out
10:09 <@nachoguy> iirc, the idea was that everything was a module, and most of the modules didn't work
10:09 < fall0ut> freeswitch is good stuff
10:10 <@nachoguy> the core app that did <something> was fine, but to get use out of it, we needed modules that didn't work
10:10 < fall0ut> it all works, and works well now
10:10 <@nachoguy> sipx is one of the sip express router forks, right?
10:10 < fall0ut> sipx is the pingtel pbx
10:10 <@nachoguy> I've heard the name but haven't dug into
10:10 < fall0ut> it's a pure proxy + integrated vxml (in 4.0 release it uses freeswitch instead of a vxml media server)
10:11 <@nachoguy> so it's a freeswitch module?
10:11 < fall0ut> no
10:11 < fall0ut> SipX is a complete PBX
10:11 < fall0ut> manages endpoints, user portals, dialplans, etc
10:11 < fall0ut> it uses freeswitch for media processing... i.e. a call going to voicemail, or autoattendant, it configures FreeSwitch to handle that
10:11 < fall0ut> or conferencing
10:12 <@nachoguy> interesting
10:12 < fall0ut> but all of the SIP stuff is handled by their own b2bua/sip proxy
10:12 < fall0ut> it's open source, but you can buy it from Nortel as the SCS500
10:12 <@nachoguy> I've never heard of interactive intelligence, but with a name like that, I may have read it and just glossed over it as it sounds like buzzwords
10:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> sounds like a wrapped AI solution for game developers
10:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> Emotion Engine now with more Interactive Intelligence
10:15 <@Corydon76-dig> fall0ut: why don't you like Digium?
10:15 < fall0ut> lots of reasons
10:16 <@Corydon76-dig> A good number of people in this channel work for Digium.
10:16 < fall0ut> that sucks
10:17 <@Corydon76-dig> And I chose to, because I think it's a great company.
10:17 <@rhia> think he means if you can give specifics, they can address them
10:17 <@Corydon76-dig> So I'm very curious to know what exactly you think is wrong with the company
10:20 < fall0ut> lots of personal reasons I don't really like digium... people I've met at industry events, etc...
10:22 <@Corydon76-dig> like who?
10:23 < fall0ut> plus I don't like how digium wants any asterisk contributor to sign their commercial license
10:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Have you read the license?
10:24 <@Corydon76-dig> It's a very standard license agreement
10:24 < fall0ut> last time I read it it granted digium the right to sublicense anything to others, etc... even as binary...
10:24 <@Corydon76-dig> In fact, the license agreement allows you to retain MORE rights than any of the FSF projects
10:25 <@Corydon76-dig> FSF projects force you to assign copyright
10:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, the Digium license is logical, given that your contribution becomes part of the Asterisk project
10:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Digium only asks for the ability to sublicense your work
10:26 <@Corydon76-dig> You retain copyright
10:27 <@Corydon76-dig> So I imagine that if you hate on Digium for that reason, you also hate on gcc, glibc, bison, bash, etc.
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10:27 < fall0ut> if their definition of license wasn't so broad it wouldn't be bad..
10:27 <@Corydon76-dig> because they force you to give up MORE rights
10:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Dude, "license" is an industry-standard term
10:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Legal term
10:28 < fall0ut> im not the only person who has issues with this
10:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Most people don't understand that under copyright, NOBODY has any implicit right to publish anything you have a copyright on
10:28 <@Corydon76-dig> fall0ut: I suspect most of the issue starts with a misunderstanding of copyright law
10:29 <@Corydon76-dig> btw, "I'm not the only person..." is a logical fallacy
10:32 < fall0ut> and who actually buys digium hardware?
10:32 <@Corydon76-dig> lots of people do
10:32 <@brimstone> i don't
10:32 < fall0ut> $2k for 24fxs?
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10:32 <@critch> fuck FXS, go digital
10:32 < fall0ut> and then you're still tied to a PC?
10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> I admit the 2400 is a bit of a stretch
10:33 < fall0ut> there's a lot better hardware out there for a lot less money
10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Most people would go for a T1 and channel bank
10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> What better hardware?
10:34 < fall0ut> carrier access for fxs -> sip/mgcp, cisco is even cheaper...
10:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Before Digium came along, none of them made that hardware
10:35 < fall0ut> thats not true
10:35 <@Corydon76-dig> You're seeing new solutions because the marketplace forced them to adapt
10:35 <@critch> umm, I think Carrier did, It was a module to the Adit.
10:35 < fall0ut> Adit600+CMG has been around forever
10:35 < fall0ut> Cisco has been doing voip/vofr for a long time
10:35 <@Corydon76-dig> but not with SIP
10:35 < fall0ut> SIP sucks for this stuff anyway
10:36 < fall0ut> next you'll be saying IAX is the end-all be-all do-all protocol
10:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Don't put words in my mouth
10:36 < fall0ut> SIP isn't great
10:36 < fall0ut> SIP implementations out there are STILL poor
10:36 <@nachoguy>  fall0ut, not to pick fights, but if sip sucks and IAX sucks, what's good?
10:37 < fall0ut> nachoguy: nothing :P
10:37 < fall0ut> SIP sucks for dealing with endpoints
10:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, and the H.323 implementations suck, too
10:37 < fall0ut> it's fine for trunking
10:38 <@nachoguy> copper sucks for cabling, so does fiber
10:38 <@nachoguy> also wireless blows
10:38 <@Corydon76-dig> So your point is that everybody sucks.  Why does Digium deserve your derision more than anybody else?
10:38 < fall0ut> It all depends on what you're doing
10:38 < fall0ut> saying nobody did this stuff with SIP!
10:39 < fall0ut> is a broad statement... Some stuff shouldn't ever use SIP
10:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Nobody did that stuff with SIP
10:39 < fall0ut> for controlling FXS lines, SIP sucks
10:39 < fall0ut> PRI -> SIP is good
10:39 < fie_work> I have -1 mail in my inbox! :D
10:39 < fall0ut> ISUP -> SIP-T isn't bad
10:40 < fall0ut> h.248 or mgcp would be better for controlling fxs
10:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Hey, if we're talking about controlling FXS, Groundstart would be even better
10:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Unfortunately, Bell installed every line as Loopstart
10:41 <@Corydon76-dig> So again, why does Digium deserve your derision more than any other company?
10:42 < fall0ut> I ridicule plenty of other companies
10:42 <@Corydon76-dig> So it's more of a general dislike for corporations?
10:42 < fall0ut> there are plenty I like, too
10:43 < [1NF0]_Work> so, it's just general dislike based on 1d20, 16+ for like?
10:44 <@nachoguy> failed saving throw!
10:46 <@Dolemite> 30 days in the life of a Data Center Manager:
10:46 < [1NF0]_Work> sounds like an interesting read.
10:47 <@Dolemite> Week 1:  Analyze current problem with data center and present to management
10:47 <@Dolemite> Week 2:  Management tells Data Center Manager to develop plan as if money were no object
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10:47 <@Dolemite> Week 3:  Management tells Data Center Manager that he should stop dreaming and work with what we already have.
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10:48 <@Dolemite> Week 4:  Management asks Data Center Manager they haven't been told about the problem in the Data Center and why we haven't been working on a plan.
10:48 <@Dolemite> Repeat ad naseum
10:48 < fall0ut> Corydon76-dig: if you want to really make fun of someone, look at CME and/or any of cisco's softswitches
10:48 < fall0ut> er
10:48 < fall0ut> not CME
10:48 < fall0ut> but CCM
10:49 <@Corydon76-dig> fall0ut: I'm not trying to make fun of you
10:50 < fall0ut> or nortel
10:50 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, how did you break into our IT director's office and steal his secret plans?  I mean nice job with the cover up attempt of replacing "entire admin staff" with "Data Center Manager" and making the issue singular
10:50 < fall0ut> CS2k or CS1500 are both a big joke
10:51 < fall0ut> so realize, that my hate is not soley at digium
10:51 < fall0ut> but with lots of others as well
10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Then don't you think that your dislike may be misplaced?
10:51 < sung> Corydon76-dig: no.
10:52 < sung> all the telecom companies suck
10:56 <@oddball> on lighter note:
10:56 <@oddball> http://leasticoulddo.com/comic/20090309
10:56 <@rhia> oddball: interrogations are hard
10:56 <@rhia> i want the Richard socks
10:57 <@oddball> yes... yes they are.
10:57 <@oddball> I wish I had ordered one of the Richard plushies.
10:59 <@oddball> oh, rhia, you're into bad movies.  I saw this in Target the other day and almost bought it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1194271/
10:59 <@oddball> Steven Segal vs vampires!
11:00 <@rhia> ?!  lol
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11:01 <@rhia> only thing better would be if the evil vampire was Van Damme <g>
11:01 <@oddball> heh
11:02 <@rhia> hehe, the tagline is wonderful: He lives by the sword. They will die by it.
11:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter
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11:14 <@rhia> most vampire movies could be nominated for a Smithee - but having Segal hunting them is just icing on top   http://www.smitheeawards.com/
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11:24 <@nachoguy> http://www.cracked.com/topic/118-nicolas-cage/
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11:43 < fie_work> nachoguy, haha
11:43 < fie_work> did I miss one of the movies?
11:43 < fie_work> bear suit?
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11:51 <@nachoguy> pedo-bear to the rescue?
11:54 < fie_work> BLAHHHH
11:56 <@rhia> couple new job positions just opened up in the DC offices of the city's chief technology officer
11:57 <@rhia> http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN1237208720090312
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14:37 < eryc> http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/03/12/iraq.shoe.thrower/
14:52 <@rhia> Elmo want this tape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr9_5uZn6ds
15:02 < TelcoBob> damn, im good...apparently last night in a drunken rage i decided to bake cookies....and they are so damn good"
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15:02 < TelcoBob> isnt thatr ight Irongeek
15:02 < TelcoBob> ;)
15:02 < Irongeek> That you like goat porn?
15:02 < TelcoBob> :(
15:02 < Irongeek> Yeah, that's one I heard.
15:02 < TelcoBob> yes
15:03 < TelcoBob> how goes it buddy?
15:03 < Irongeek> Ok, just working on a presentation.
15:03 < TelcoBob> oh yea?
15:03 < TelcoBob> will it find its way onto irongeek.com?
15:03 < Irongeek> Scoping, google hacking and metadata.
15:03 < TelcoBob> im not sure im familiar wirt the term scoping
15:03 < Irongeek> It will be live in Louisville, but I plan to record it to post.
15:04 < Irongeek> Basically, finding out what hosts an organization has.
15:05 < TelcoBob> oh
15:05 < TelcoBob> groovy
15:05 <+poiupoiu> Irongeek, is this pretty much your job?
15:05 < TelcoBob> im trying to find a way to get our portable rave up to notacon
15:05 < TelcoBob> but not having much luck
15:05 < Irongeek> I wish, I'm a helpdesk monkey more or less in my day job.
15:06 <+poiupoiu> i do like monkeys!
15:06 < TelcoBob> Irongeek: me and marie think you should be a stripper
15:06 < TelcoBob> especially with the hot accent :-p
15:06 < Irongeek> I'll give marie a lap dance for free, but you would need to pay. :)
15:06 < TelcoBob> hahahah im not suppose to say anything
15:06 < TelcoBob> but she digs you hahah if it wasnt for the bf shes got in the army
15:07 < TelcoBob> she said shed be all ove rthat
15:07 < TelcoBob> it was cute
15:07 < Irongeek> I dig her too, but she has a BF and lives WAY far away.
15:07 < [1NF0]_Work> TelcoBob: what's the issue with the rave to Notacon? It's not like it looks like a bomb or anything...
15:08 < TelcoBob> [1NF0]_Work: exactly wed have to drive it and i cant afford it on my own
15:08 < Irongeek> I guess in hacker terms, it would be a laptop dance.
15:08 < TelcoBob> ha!
15:08 <@nachoguy> just so long as you don't close the lid and put it into hibernate mode
15:08 < TelcoBob> im thinking we need a 6lgm fund where people can paypal us to cons to rock hah
15:08 <@sdodson> Does RRDtool have to be used with data that's taken at regular intervals?
15:09 < TelcoBob> anybody know how much a bius ticket from raleigh to cleveland might be? think they let that thing on a bus?
15:11 < fall0ut> sdodson: not really
15:11 < fall0ut> but you'll want to configure it so it wont average that data out
15:11 < eryc> haha
15:11 < eryc> you can't configure that
15:12 <@sdodson> bah that's exactly what I want to do :(
15:12 <@sdodson> I need to get a rolling average from data like this :
15:12 <@sdodson> 2009-02-10 10:17:27.003321000 127417093
15:12 <@sdodson> 2009-02-10 12:13:31.068141000 11546913
15:12 <@sdodson> 2009-02-10 13:39:32.501160000 1066117120
15:12 <@sdodson> 2009-02-10 13:54:43.646060000 932760362
15:12 <@sdodson> That's date and byte size
15:12 < eryc> it wants regular intervals
15:12 < eryc> use gnuplot
15:12 <@sdodson> eryc: how without a ton of scripting?
15:12 < eryc> or excel
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15:13 < eryc> scripting?
15:13 <@Evilpig> bus from raleigh to cleveland $247.00 
15:14 < eryc> i would strip off the microseconds, replace with a tab, import into excel and scatter plot it
15:14 < eryc> i fucking hate rrdtool
15:14 <@sdodson> eryc: I've basically done that in gnuplot
15:14 < eryc> ok
15:14 <@sdodson> But now I need to do some sort of trending other than "hey that looks like it's vaguely going up and to the right"
15:15 <@Evilpig> write a quicky php app to chart it
15:16 < eryc> you want a line thru the middle of it representing average growth?
15:16 <@sdodson> eryc: yes
15:16 < eryc> i dunno i dropped out of statistics
15:17 <@sdodson> omg, how will you be a productive member of soceity with out understanding t distributions?!!!!!!!!!
15:18 < eryc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_regression
15:18 < eryc> or you could get all stockmarket on it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trend_lines_%28technical_analysis%29
15:19 <@sdodson> eryc: with gnuplot script for me plz
15:20 < eryc> http://www.scipy.org/Cookbook/LinearRegression
15:20 < eryc> says to use matplotlib or R
15:20 < eryc> http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
15:20 <@sdodson> I think i'm going to stick this crap into oo and let it do it
15:24 < eryc> let me know how that works out
15:27 < eryc> apparently in Excel you do, Chart >> Add Trendline
15:28 < eryc> i'd expect OooOooOO to be similar
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15:44 <@sdodson> eryc: ya but it looks like ass
15:47 < eryc> its not a line?
16:14 <@aestetix> vagina
16:23 <@Shadow404> whats a good open source photoshop like program?
16:23 <@oddball> gimp
16:27 <@brimstone> gimpshop
16:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> I wish gimp was a lot better
16:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> maybe it's like photoshop.. if you work in it 8 hours a day you know how to get everything out of is easily, but if you don't everything is a pain
16:29 <@M0j0-j0j0> is se2600.org down?
16:33 <@Mirage> l
16:33 <@Mirage> test
16:34 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0!
16:34 < TelcoBob> you gonna be at Carolinacon?
16:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> planning on it
16:35 < TelcoBob> sweeeeet
16:35 < TelcoBob> im gonna be gettign some congina too
16:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> what time does the party start?
16:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> 6PM Fri?
16:35 < TelcoBob> not sure
16:35 < TelcoBob> but let me show you this chick that im going to be gettign with
16:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> http://www.hotchicks.com/top10/number1.html?
16:36 < TelcoBob> http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1967/124/114/683782372/n683782372_1752706_975.jpg    best congina ill have gotten since dragoncon
16:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> is this sfw?
16:36 < TelcoBob> yea
16:36 < TelcoBob> its facebook :-p
16:37 < TelcoBob> shes coming down from harrisburg PA for me haha
16:37 <@M0j0-j0j0> she's going to hurt you
16:37 < TelcoBob> hahah i hope so
16:37 <@brimstone> and then leave you alone
16:38 < TelcoBob> im going to get her soooo fucking high
16:38 <@M0j0-j0j0> she has really attractive cheek bones
16:38 < TelcoBob> :) she wont even know what hit her
16:38 < TelcoBob> i know im a big fan of cheekbones to
16:38 <@brimstone> not soooo regular high?
16:38 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: apparently shes a bit crazy, which makes it even better hah
16:39 < TelcoBob> brimstone: im talkin the ceiling yelling out you and the pisser flushing fire high
16:39 < TelcoBob> at*
16:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: or much much worse
16:39 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: nah, its just a one time thing
16:39 < TelcoBob> plus ime moving an extra 300 miles away from her in a few weeks
16:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: I still have some crazy chick I banged in high-school tracking me down... and it's been a long time since I was in high-school
16:40 < TelcoBob> btw. just so everyone knows if they ever need a place to crash in ATL just call me, hope you dont mind sharing a bed ;)
16:40 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: ha! i mean there are thigns you could tell her to get her off you
16:40 < TelcoBob> what i normally say:
16:40 < TelcoBob> im sorry but ive got all kinds of herpes, call back when there is a cure..please
16:41 < TelcoBob> hahah then they run like motha fuckas
16:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: "I'm gay and have crabs" didn't work... "I'm going to file a restraining order" was a fail too
16:41 < TelcoBob> ha!
16:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> but this one is hotter than my stalker so it might be okay
16:41 < TelcoBob> then just invite her over, show her your gay porn, the gold platted dildos, horribly pictures of obama shopped naked
16:41 < TelcoBob> shell get the picture
16:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: you want to share a bed with me little man ;)
16:42 < TelcoBob> heheh ^_^
16:42 < TelcoBob> youd kill me
16:42 < TelcoBob> i mean...im fragile haha
16:42 < TelcoBob> hah
16:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> haha
16:43 < TelcoBob> man we are goign to have so much fun this weekend :)
16:43 < TelcoBob> well ill brb gotta unload these grocerys
16:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> I was thinking about gym'in but I need to skip it cause I really should spend some time getting my new bawks running
16:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> you have fun with your gross-res... I'm headed home
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17:45 <@nachoguy> neat!  I just stumbled across an entry at bugs.digium.com that my old boss/co-worker filed that answers a question/solves a problem I had.
17:51 < sung> heh
18:02 <@brimstone>   /me pimps mantus
18:02 <@brimstone> that's where those spaces went
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18:41 < TelcoBob> so carolinacon isa gonnas rock, ive got 70 doses of 2c-i :-p
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19:10 <@aestetix> Man....
19:10 <@aestetix> I'm doing some contract work to redesign an embedded system, now.
19:10 <@aestetix> I don't know what they were smoking when they set up the system.
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19:25 <@brimstone> huh, TelcoBob can find drunks for everyone at a con, but not food for himself
19:26 <@brimstone> s/drunks/drugs/
19:26 < TelcoBob> hahaha
19:33 <@Shadow404> or condoms
19:43 < TelcoBob> hey i was packing condoms the whole con...they just seem to dissapear everytime i fall asleep near Al, i dont know why
19:45 <@Shadow404> do certain body parts hurt the next morning that shouldnt?
19:45 <@brimstone> like ribs, ears, etc?
19:49 < TelcoBob> hmm
19:50 < TelcoBob> the first 7 or inches of my dick usually does
19:50 < TelcoBob> and hes always got a black eye
19:50 < TelcoBob> never occured to me it would be related
19:50 < TelcoBob> :-p
19:52 < TelcoBob> man twitter makes me sad, i mean i feel compelled to say somethgin prfound...but just cant get it down to 140 words :(
19:55 <@Shadow404> well go for 141
20:01 < TelcoBob> twitter+1?
20:01 <@brimstone> i can think of a lot of profound things under 140 characters
20:02 < jeebusro1ors> "fuck"
20:03 < jeebusro1ors> you can quote me on that
20:05 <@tzanger> I thought twitter was 120
20:11 < TelcoBob> hahaha
20:11 < TelcoBob> jeebusro1ors: oh i will
20:12 < TelcoBob> jeebusro1ors: http://twitter.com/telcob0b your famous now haha
20:12 < jeebusro1ors> noice
20:13 < jeebusro1ors> i have never been to this twitter site
20:13 < TelcoBob> eh its the new in thing hahah i resisted until jgog made me get one at outerz0ne
20:14 < jeebusro1ors> that is called a 'tweet' correct?
20:14 < jeebusro1ors> so ive been tweeted?
20:14 <@tzanger> I-MOD: ku-roo kuku ku kukuku?
20:15 < TelcoBob> jeebusro1ors: yes haha
20:16 <@brimstone> tzanger: man, you canucks are odd...
20:16 < jeebusro1ors> great! i will have to write home to mama about this then
20:17 < Falun> TelcoBob: random question, who is Coopersmash? 'cause she's a shared connection between you guys and two other (otherwise unconnected afaik) groups of friends
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20:18 <@brimstone> cooper SMASH!
20:18 <@brimstone> graaa!!
20:18  * brimstone stomps around the channel
20:18 < TelcoBob> Falun: marie
20:18 < jeebusro1ors> hahaha
20:18 < jeebusro1ors> brimstone: u funnah
20:18 < emwav> sup bob
20:18 < TelcoBob> eh just drankin my blues away heh
20:19 < emwav> hahaa,  whatch'a drink'n on?
20:19 < TelcoBob> my homemade telcolikka
20:19 < TelcoBob> ill bring a few pints to cc
20:20 < emwav> haha, nice.  fresh hooch?
20:20 < TelcoBob> yep
20:20 <@tzanger> brimstone: hahaha
20:20 < emwav> can't wait.
20:20 < emwav> i'm actually packing right now
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20:21 < emwav> haha
20:21 < BathtubGin-Bob> its an apple jack that i let apple peels sit in for a bout a week
20:22 < BathtubGin-Bob> its nice and appley
20:22 -!- BathtubGin-Bob is now known as WinoBob
20:22 <@tzanger> what's an apple jack?
20:22 < emwav> makes it smooth on the way down
20:22 < WinoBob> an apple likka
20:22 <@tzanger> interesting
20:22 < WinoBob> emwav: not the smoothes ive made but it will be nice if its refirdgerated
20:22 <@tzanger> so is it at all like schnapps?
20:23 <@tzanger> refirdgerated? you've been into the hooch already, haven't you, heh
20:23 < WinoBob> tzanger: yea just regonial name differences
20:23 < WinoBob> fuck you
20:23 <@tzanger> easy there
20:23 < WinoBob> emwav: ive been drinking like a motha fucka since sam left me though heh that shit didnt go down easyly
20:24 < WinoBob> but ive got some congina lined up
20:24 < WinoBob> oh!
20:25 < WinoBob> emwav: ive goty roughly 70 hits of 2c-i
20:25 < WinoBob> or im handing out for pasifico
20:25 < emwav> haha, cool
20:26 < jeebusro1ors> i want to gooooo
20:26 < jeebusro1ors> being responsible is gay
20:27 < WinoBob> jeebusro1ors: why dont you?
20:27 < AstralSin> my car is broken down... because mice chewed through a bunch of my wiring
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20:27 < jeebusro1ors> heh, i got this dude a job and hes coming in either friday night or saturday morning
20:27 < jeebusro1ors> and its a long ass drive
20:33 < TelcoBob> damn
20:33 < TelcoBob> jeebusro1ors: whats yoru 20?
20:34 < jeebusro1ors> columbia
20:38 < TelcoBob> thatsnot to far
20:38 < TelcoBob> like 3 or 4 hours :-p
20:39 < jeebusro1ors> lawlll
20:43 < jeebusro1ors> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/mugs/27f9/action/
20:44 < TelcoBob> man i cant wait till im done with my atlanta move so i can go ahead and find me a new damn woman
20:44 < TelcoBob> >_<
20:44 < TelcoBob> i hate this brooding crap
20:45 < jeebusro1ors> ^^ my desk is famous
20:46 < TelcoBob> thats your desk?
20:46 < jeebusro1ors> yesh
20:47 < TelcoBob> haha sweey
20:47 < TelcoBob> whats that you were drinkinhg?
20:48 < jeebusro1ors> tonight is youngs double chocolate
20:49 < jeebusro1ors> then was....one of the magic hat brews
20:50 < TelcoBob> looks fancy is that hipster way hah
20:52 < jeebusro1ors> i like to drink tastey beer
20:57 < TelcoBob> haha
21:22  * dasunt ponders.
21:32 < jeebusro1ors> anyone familiar with sdcc?
21:40 <@Dagmar> Real hax0rs are born knowing it
21:41 <@tzanger> I would like to use sdcc, but it's got a lot of rough edges yet
21:42 <@tzanger> I'm doing some USB stuff with a PIC18F4554 or someshit
21:43 < jeebusro1ors> a friend has me convinced to get uzi working with sdcc
21:43 < jeebusro1ors> but some assembler bits arent working and i dunno why :\
21:44 < jeebusro1ors> so of course i figured id go the lazy route and ask here :D
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23:00 <@brimstone> sdodson: http://www.gnome.org/~ssp/randr/randrwrap.c
23:07 < eryc> wassat
23:07 <@brimstone> the first #define makes me giggle
23:07 < eryc> #define I_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE_AND_ONLY_IN_FEDORA
23:07 < eryc> yea ha
23:08 < eryc> hey
23:08 < eryc> you know anything about libtool?
23:08 <@brimstone> nope
23:08 < eryc> k
23:08 <@brimstone> just how to install it when ./configure asks for it
23:09 < eryc> well like, mysql says you should have version X.xx or later
23:09 < eryc> to compile from source, but it doesnt ask for it
23:09 < eryc> and it generates its own
23:09 < eryc> but then there's the gnu libtool..
23:09 < eryc> so i was trying to determine if its better to install/use gnu libtool (latest) or let it compile without it
23:10 < eryc> it seems to just be a shell script
23:11 < eryc> *shrug*
23:11 <@brimstone> why are you installing mysql from source?
23:12 < eryc> we install everything from source
23:12 < eryc> also, solaris
23:13 < eryc> anyway, it came up because someone was writing a doc and copy/pasted the bits in the readme for mysql that say you need x,y, and z
23:14 < eryc> and i was reading it and saw libtool, which ive never had to install
23:14 < eryc> i compile everything with sun's compiler
23:15 < eryc> gcc is a big kludge
23:19 < eryc> i would even go on to say all of gnu.org is a steaming pile of shit
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