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09:05 < ware> woot.com
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09:08 < jeebusroxors> a watch?
09:16 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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09:17  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
09:18 < jeebusroxors> for 5 long years he wore that watch up his ass
09:19 <@Dolemite> oh n0ez, someone is quoting Pulp Fiction
09:20 < jeebusroxors> woot has watches 4 sale
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09:52 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:54 <@Dolemite> Hombre del Tortillas
09:54 <@Dolemite> mucho gusto!
09:54  * aestetix puts a feather in Dolemite's hat
09:55 <@nachoguy> ugh.  So last night I went out drinking with old coworkers
09:55 <@nachoguy> in the middle of it, one of my current coworkers hands me his blackberry, showing me an email that one of the douchebags devlopers that works here got promoted
09:57 <@nachoguy> naturally it's the one I dislike the most, and they promoted him for his excellent work on the project that was "delivered" about a year out of schedule and promptly crashes like a motherfucker as soon as it's "production" and no longer his responsibility
09:58 <@nachoguy> documentation will, of course, come later
09:59 <@aestetix> And you're complaining?
09:59 <@aestetix> I wouldn't want to be working there if I were you.
10:01 <@nachoguy> I'm sure you've noticed, the job market is shit
10:02 <@aestetix> Yes. I've been trying to get a job for a month, thank you.
10:02 <@nachoguy> the only job postings around are a bunch of headhunters that post the same ads, so they can collect and sit on resumes
10:02 <@aestetix> Last time I was on the market, I had two job offers within a week.
10:02 <@nachoguy> Aestetix, yeah, I know.  Any leads?
10:02 <@aestetix> Yes.
10:03 <@nachoguy> good.  you still going to be in New York?
10:03 <@aestetix> One of the nice things about living in San Francisco: startups are not as affected by the economy.
10:03 <@aestetix> Oh. Heh. I moved to the west coast about a month ago.
10:04 <@aestetix> actually check it out
10:04 <@aestetix> www.laidoffcamp.com
10:04 <@aestetix> It's san francisco's answer to the economic downturn
10:04 <@nachoguy> wait, really?
10:04 <@nachoguy> you know much about asterisk?
10:05 <@nachoguy> my buddy is out in SF.  He got laid off about 6-8 weeks ago.  He's trying to start up an Asterisk users group
10:05 <@aestetix> Oh, cool!
10:05 <@aestetix> Can you msg me his contact info?
10:05 <@aestetix> Is he in the city, by chance?
10:05 <@aestetix> Or somewhere gay like palo alto
10:06 <@nachoguy> not positive
10:06 <@Dolemite> bah!  Palo Alto is nice.
10:06 <@aestetix> Dolemite: when I interviewed there, I called it "a blue velvet fantasy world"
10:07 <@Dolemite> So non-gay == gay capital of the US?
10:07 <@aestetix> hahaha
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10:26 <@nachoguy> damn, laidoffcamp fo sf was yesterday?
10:26 <@nachoguy> anything cool?
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10:54 <@aestetix> nachoguy: yes
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11:13 <@aestetix> nachoguy: ok... msg me his email address :p
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11:23 <@Catonic> raise your hand if you think Shadow404 is a punk
11:23  * Catonic hols his hand up
11:23 <@Catonic> *holds
11:26 <@Catonic> http://imagechan.com/img/6720/Haitian%20Ipod%20Shuffle/
11:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: he colored his hair and/or gave himself a weird hairdo?
11:26 <@Corydon76-dig> spikes/mohawk/etc
11:26 <@TheLightCosine> Corydon76-dig: that is so shallow =p
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11:27 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: nah, just objecting to 'punk' being used as a pejorative
11:27 <@TheLightCosine> heh
11:28 <@TheLightCosine> at the outsorucing comapny i worked for there was this odlker punk rocker named chas
11:28 <@TheLightCosine> he worked on my wife's team
11:28  * Corydon76-dig thinks punk guys are hawt
11:28 <@TheLightCosine> when we got boguht out by Spherion, one of their people stiopped when she saw chas' fauxhawk and said "what is that kid doing with his hair?"
11:29 <@TheLightCosine> chas turns around and goes "Bitch, I'm odler than you are, don't talk about my fucking hair"
11:29 <@TheLightCosine> we all loved chas =)
11:31 <@TheLightCosine> so is anyone in Nashville NOT going to OZ?
11:32 < sung> 11:25  * Corydon76-dig thinks punk guys are hawt
11:32 < sung> wat.
11:32 <@Dolemite> s/punk//
11:32 < sung> oh.
11:32 <@TheLightCosine> Dolemite: aw come on, i'm sure he has SOME standards =P
11:33 <@Dolemite> Well we know that he likes to prep the pre-adults for seduction once they turn 18, so I guess statutory limits would apply
11:34 <@Dolemite> So it's a good bet that dead ones are off limits, too
11:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Appreciating good looking guys doesn't mean I need to stick my dick in all of them
11:35 <@TheLightCosine> Corydon76-dig: he assumes it does because to him appreciating good lo0oking women means wanting to stick his dick in all of them =P
11:36 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: wanting to and endangering my status/relationships are two different things, as well.
11:36 <@TheLightCosine> indeed
11:36 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: I think you're hot, too, but I'm not going to attempt anything.
11:37 <@TheLightCosine> hahaha story of my life! I'm more attractive to gay men than straight women
11:37 <@TheLightCosine> lol
11:37 < ware> rofl
11:37 < ware> change where you hang out
11:38 <@TheLightCosine> ware: meh, i used to know a lot of gay dudes back in pa cus they got the best drugs
11:38 < ware> 11:34 <@Corydon76> Appreciating good looking guys doesn't mean I need to stick my dick in all of them
11:38 < ware> if you believe that, act accordingly!
11:39 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: I think you're cute, but I'm not going to attempt anything, either.
11:39 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: for one thing, WAY too much baggage.  ;-)
11:39 <@TheLightCosine> yeah, ware's a little pretty boy
11:41 <@aestetix> Ok then.
11:46  * Corydon76-dig is happy to find a straight guy who appreciates pretty boys
11:47 <@TheLightCosine> heh
11:47 < ware> TheLightCosine: i am far from a pretty boy
11:48 <@TheLightCosine> i forget who it was  but there was some actor on the tv at one point and i said to my wife "he's hot. If I were gay i'd totally do him"
11:48 <@TheLightCosine> she was like flabbergasted lol
11:48 <@TheLightCosine> priceless
11:48 < Shadow404> now, i wish i had the body of jim rowe, good genes there
11:48 <@TheLightCosine> ware: 'a little'
11:49 <@TheLightCosine> was meant to be qualitative not a reference to size =p
11:49  * M0j0-j0j0 is going to have to cancel his trip to OZ :(
11:49 < Shadow404> no jim
11:49 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: 'little' also describes ware's size
11:49 < Shadow404> er Mike Rowe
11:49 < Shadow404> well, i will only be at OZ on both nights
11:50 < Shadow404> have to work both friday and saturday till 9pm
11:50 < Shadow404> so only around for the parties
11:50 <@TheLightCosine> M0j0-j0j0: how come?
11:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: I think it would look bad for my company to be laying people off left and right and me to be all "okay.. I'm going on a short vacation that I don't really need"
11:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> I really wanted to go make a shirt since I've never done that before
11:51 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: it's not a vacation... it's a security conference.  You're there for learning.
11:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> but it is what it is
11:52 <@Corydon76-dig> You're boosting your value to the company.
11:52 <@TheLightCosine> that sucks man
11:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: if I'm not here.. I'm either sick or on vacation
11:52 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: ah, oh well
11:52 < ware> M0j0-j0j0: be sick
11:52 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: you don't get 'personal' days?
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11:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: in my position it's all about appearances.. if I am or not.. I need to appear to care about the lay-offs :)
11:53 <@TheLightCosine> why do you own the company?
11:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> and I genuinely do so I don't think I would be able to have a good time because I would be worried about how my people are being handled in my absence
11:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: nope
11:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: well... a very very very tiny part of it
11:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: but mostly no
11:54 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: nothing much is happening on Friday... you could come down for Saturday and be back for work on Monday
11:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> Maybe next year.. I'm a little sketchy on the entire event to be honest
11:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> it's always seemed a little adhoc
11:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, hope to see you this year for PhreakNIC 13, though
11:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> yeah, I'll be at PN
11:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> and I'll go to CC
11:57 <@nachoguy> CC?
11:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> CarolinaCon
11:57 < ware> lol troll
11:57 <@aestetix> gCC
11:57 <@M0j0-j0j0>  /topic
11:57 <@aestetix> fale
11:57 < ware> IM HERE AND TROLLIN AND ILL C U AT THE CON BUT WAIT NO I WONT JUST LULZ
11:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> oh.. if ware isn't going maybe I should reconsider
11:58 < jeebusroxors> whos going to CC?
11:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> ;)
11:58 < ware> ill be on the way to jacksonville for a cruise to the bahamas
11:58 < ware> otherwise id be there to outdrink everyone
11:58 < jeebusroxors> im still deciding - its 3 hours for me :(
11:58 <@Drag0n`> so, if enough people dont go to CC, does it become distCC
11:58 < jeebusroxors> heeeey-oooo
12:00 <@TheLightCosine> heh
12:00  * TheLightCosine really wants to go to CC
12:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> we should do outerCarolinaConZ0ne and just do it in the middle because having two cons so close and only a week apart seems like they both get less participants.
12:00 <@TheLightCosine> but i can't afford OZ i certainly can't afford CC heh
12:01 <@TheLightCosine> oops
12:01 <@TheLightCosine> qutting time
12:01 <@TheLightCosine> cya folks at home!
12:01 <@M0j0-j0j0> not to be harsh, but I deal better with fully fushed out and structured environments so I think CC just makes more sense for me personally
12:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> but I'm a big freak so...
12:02 <@Drag0n`> OuterCarolinaPhreakConNicZone and hold it for a full 9 days
12:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> plus if I didn't go to CC and went to OZ I think the locals would shit talk me :)
12:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> Drag0n`: no dragonCon up in it
12:03 < ware> M0j0-j0j0: they already do =/
12:03 < jeebusroxors> jeebusCon!
12:03 < jeebusroxors> from 3-330 saturday in my shitty appartment
12:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> jeebusroxors: what's the fee?
12:04 < jeebusroxors> beer!
12:04 < jeebusroxors> good beer
12:04 <@Drag0n`> no DragonCon we dont want to OD on fun
12:04 < jeebusroxors> and wimins
12:04 < ware> swimmin in wimins
12:05 <@Drag0n`> i think they made that into a game in japan
12:06 < jeebusroxors> i thought i had this kernel down to nothing :\
12:06 < jeebusroxors> still compiling..
12:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> Borders used to have a book on snuff films made in japan.. like a documentary about them.. I should have bought it.. just because
12:07 <@nachoguy> no, you should have bought two, and asked for extra plastic bags
12:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> popcorn kernel... doesn't look like much until you start heating it up
12:08 <@Drag0n`> buy another book on houshold chemicals and disposal techneques
12:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> and a hello kitty ink pen
12:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> then make a big deal out of making sure that it has blue ink
12:08 < jeebusroxors> hmm
12:09 < jeebusroxors> i think i like that
12:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> the people at Borders know me so well that I doubt they would raise an eyebrow.
12:09 < jeebusroxors> paper or plastic? i would like one item per plastic bag plz
12:09 < jeebusroxors> and then double bag them
12:10 <@M0j0-j0j0> DON'T POP THE BAGS! it's VERY important
12:10 < jeebusroxors> eggs, meat, poulty need to be baged in triplicate
12:10 <@M0j0-j0j0> how many pounds of pressure do you think that each of these bags can withstand?
12:11 <@Mirage> ware: http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/1f-u-c4n-r34d-th1s-u-r34lly-n33d-t0-g37-l41d/
12:11 < ware> yuh =/
12:11 <@M0j0-j0j0> no recycled plastic... it must be pure unused plastic for the deflowering
12:11 < jeebusroxors> haha
12:11 <@Mirage> This should be the unofficial t-shirt for the next PN:
12:11 <@Mirage> http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/warning-if-i-wake-up-with-marker-on-my-face-ill-stab-you/
12:12 <@M0j0-j0j0> I saw that shirt a while back and thought it would be the best con shirt
12:12 <@M0j0-j0j0> but everyone is a woos these days and won't draw the penis on anyones face
12:12 <@M0j0-j0j0> they wouldn't even give me a sharpie to do it
12:12 <@M0j0-j0j0> at PN
12:13 <@Mirage> noone wants to give corydon any ideas
12:13 < ware> Mirage: you read the story about my coworker that made thesmokinggun.com right?
12:13 < ware> woke up drawn on with a sharpie
12:13 < ware> and started threatening to cut people
12:13 < ware> rofl
12:13 <@Mirage> yeah, i think dolemite pointed it out to me
12:13 < ware> i out to buy him that shirt
12:13 < ware> ought*
12:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Mirage: I get plenty of sex nowadays from Peaches.  I don't look for passed out people to rape.
12:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> Freudian
12:15 <@M0j0-j0j0> the roofies on fire
12:20 < jeebusroxors> roofie colada
12:23 <@aestetix> Wow.
12:23 <@aestetix> I am watching TV.
12:23 <@aestetix> Like, normal daytime TV.
12:23 <@aestetix> It must suck to be a bored housewife.
12:24 <@aestetix> These shows are horrible.
12:25 <@Mirage> it'll melt your brain..then the Baldwins will come suck it out
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12:34 < jeebusroxors> which ones?
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12:37 <@aestetix> Is this what normal people do when they're unemployed? Plop in front of the couch watching crappy television?
12:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Cleaning the house?  Weeding the garden?
12:38 <@Corydon76-dig> They do what other people are forced to do on the weekends
12:43 < jeebusroxors> i wrote some crappy software...
12:43 <@aestetix> public access tv...
12:44 < jeebusroxors> good stuff?
12:44 <@aestetix> I just saw a video of a fat asian chick saying "it's it great to be in the new milennium?"
12:44 < jeebusroxors> kareoke hour with tommy san?
13:31 <@Catonic> I live next to an obese asian chick
13:31 <@Catonic> I want to hang a fried duck on a string in front of a treadmill
13:32 <@Catonic> "Run, run till you skinny!"
13:32 <@Catonic> asian women not spose to be fat!
13:32  * Catonic brings the hate to the table, two scoops at a time.
13:33 < Shadow404> http://i39.tinypic.com/291mahf.gif
13:36 < ware> Evilpig: you here?
13:36 < ware> aestetix: thats why theyre all drug addict whores
13:38 <@Dagmar> He's off interviewing with CCA for the position of "switch puller"
13:39 <@sdodson> what's that mean?
13:40 <@Dagmar> Very short contract gigs, not much money, incredible power.
13:40 <@Dagmar> Oh and everyone thinks you're an asshole for doing your job.
13:40 <@oddball> so... an auditor
13:40 <@Dagmar> It's the only place to go if he continues on his career track
13:41 <@Dagmar> oddball: No, the "switch puller" for CCA would be a wholly different position than auditing.
13:41 <@sdodson> everyone already thinks i'm an asshole for doing my job
13:41 <@Dagmar> Aside from possibly a more liberal interpretation of "time to pay the piper"
13:41 <@sdodson> they're all "wha whaaaaa sdodson why don't we have a dozen symmetrixes?"
13:41 <@Dagmar> Bad situation or not I'm glad that pig's out of that place
13:42 <@oddball> Dagmar: gotcha
13:48 <@Dagmar> Ah... just what I need for the scooter: http://www.gaussboys.com/
13:49 <@oddball> umm... why?
13:50 <@Dagmar> Because the fucker does NOT set off traffic sensors
13:50 <@oddball> ahhhhhhh
13:53 <@Dagmar> Some of these babies look like I could probably park the thing on the side of a metal warehouse wall if I wantee
13:53 <@Dagmar> s
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14:15 <@critch> Dagmar: In TN, motorcycles are allowed to run red lights. That is the law. look it up.
14:16 <@Dagmar> No they're not.
14:16 <@critch> http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_run_a_red_light_on_a_motorcycle_in_Tennessee
14:16 <@Dagmar> They're allowed to stop and then "after exercising due caution" can go.
14:16 <@critch> yes, sorry
14:16 <@Dagmar> I have the fucking law printed out right here.
14:16 <@oddball> I would highly recommend you carry a couple of that law.  I know a couple guys that have had to argue with cops over that.
14:16 <@Dagmar> Not irked at you, just irked in advance of the first cop who'll probably pull me over
14:17 <@Dagmar> 'cuz technically scooters aren't classified as motorcycles.
14:17 <@Dagmar> So... I'm buying a buncha magnets.
14:17 <@critch> Or have fun, go to court instead of arguing with the cop. Let the judge chastise the officer
14:17 < jeebusroxors> slide him that wraped around a donut and youll be fine
14:17 <@Dagmar> Like, enough to draft unpowered on a semi
14:17 <@Drag0n`> obviously, ignorance of the law is a common excuse for law enforcement <g>
14:18 <@critch> We do not get to claim ignorance of the law, they can not either
14:18 <@Dagmar> Yeah amusingly that same passage says that you can't use "Well, I thought the light was using a malfunctioning sensor"
14:18 <@Drag0n`> not saying they can, saying they do, ignorance is higher in law enforcemnt it seems
14:19 <@Dagmar> I've got a small collection of printouts for when I eventually get pulled over
14:19 <@Dagmar> Stuff about helmets, stuff about tags, stuff about insurance, and now the one entitled "Why I did not just 'run' that red light."
14:19 <@Drag0n`> considering how complicated the laws have become, it is now impossible to NOT be ignorant of the law
14:20 <@Drag0n`> carry a full legal library in you trunk when ya get pulled over and inspected <g>
14:20 <@Dagmar> Actually, I could do that
14:20 <@Dagmar> It'll fit in your pocket
14:21 <@Dagmar> But it seems like a great way to get a body-cavity search
14:21 <@Dagmar> "I found his comprehensive knowledge of the law to be higly suspicious"
14:22 <@Drag0n`> and leave clipings of articles about corrupt cops and law enforcement using excessive force
14:22 <@Dagmar> It's almost as good as saying "Could you speak a little more loudly so the mic can pick it up?" when you're talking to them
14:22 <@Dagmar> ...which is "copspeak" for "Beat me with your club now"
14:22 <@Drag0n`> and multiple camera like lenses all over the cab and trunk area
14:23 <@critch> hehe, I love this from USAToday, "Motorcyclist Splatt Ratt of Palm Springs, Calif., a member of the board of directors of a motorcyclists advocacy group called American Bikers Aimed Toward Education, said that's not good enough. Replacing all the ineffective traffic-detection devices could take years, he said. "
14:23 <@Drag0n`> and a suspicious antena sticking out in an odd location
14:23 <@Dagmar> Dragon: I've been kinda thinking about some dry-ice based special effects actually
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14:24 <@Dagmar> I mean, I've got all this space under the seat which my helmet won't fit into just plain going to waste
14:25 <@Drag0n`> hehe, dry ice fuel line cooler can <g>
14:25 <@Dagmar> I just need to dig a bit more and make sure it won't come out like the run radioactive logo idea
14:25 <@Dagmar> Don't put one on your car.
14:25 <@Dagmar> If you have an accident, you would not BELIEVE the shit they'll have to go through
14:25 <@critch> this scooter is a pipe bomb
14:26 <@Drag0n`> lol
14:27 <@Drag0n`> yeah, used to know a guy that had a demolitions license and a permit to transport high exposives. he told be about an accident he got into with another car, minor fenderbender closed down an 8 lane highway for 2 hrs
14:27 < sung> b
14:27 <@Drag0n`> me
14:29 < jeebusroxors> change!
14:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I had about a 20 minute phone conversation with a dispatcher who had to get out some manuals just to remember what would be going on should I have a wreck with that foot-square radioactive warning label magnet on the i_mark
14:32 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
14:32 <@Dagmar> I was like.  "Right.  I'll just stick this to the inside of the trunk then."
14:33 <@Drag0n`> yeah, thats beeter on the fridge than on a car
14:33 <@Dagmar> The thing had a weird engine sound, so you could almost believe it was running on something non-standard, but the insanity that would transpire if they thought they had to clean up a small nuclear pile?  Wow.
14:33 <@Drag0n`> ask the hosts at chatacon how the "no radioactive labels" rule got created
14:33 <@Drag0n`> better
14:34 < GodFix[HC]> NSFW but def a lawl: http://nashville.craigslist.org/ers/1060015774.html
14:34 < Shadow404> just wrong
14:36 < jeebusroxors> wtf
14:39 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: yo!
14:39 < ware> whoa!
14:39 < ware> is nsfw hehe
14:40 < ware> thought it might just be txt
14:40 <@Catonic> omg
14:40 <@Catonic> I thought surely it wouldn't be NSFW for me
14:40 <@Catonic> no, that's NSFW.
14:40 <@Catonic> unless you work for MaxieZ,then it's routine
14:40 < jeebusroxors> thats terrible
14:40 < jeebusroxors> ugh
14:40 <@Catonic> lol
14:40 <@Catonic> haha, you looked!
14:41  * Catonic wanders off to stroke it to amputee porn
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14:41 < jeebusroxors> oh man
14:41 < jeebusroxors> 'talk dirty to me here'
14:42 < jeebusroxors> i want to be like..oooh yea baby...wave to the camera
14:42 < jeebusroxors> oooh thats right...im sorry
14:43 < GodFix[HC]> I'm glad I could bring so many good lawls in today
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14:45 < jeebusroxors> he did not care for them
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15:18 < ware> shroobhead
15:42  * polerin shakes her head
15:48 < ware> wut
15:49 <@polerin> I really don't need to say anything :P
15:51 < ware> neither do i. the history written preceeds me
15:53 <@polerin> damnit, clam chowder is still cold
16:01 < ware> nobody likes a cold clam
16:01 < ware> lulz
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17:52 <@sdodson> unce unce unce
17:55  * nachoguy starts turning the lights off and on
17:57 <@brimstone> no!
17:57 <@brimstone> we did not install lightswitch for nachoguy to have lightswitch rave!
17:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> woo woot!
17:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> the system is down .. the system is down
17:59  * brimstone inserts obligitory scifi quote
17:59  * brimstone sets off a siren
18:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm really really hungry, but I think I'm going to go to the gym instead of getting something to eat because I know I'll end up eating when I get home regardless of if I eat now or not
18:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> really really tired too, and the gym is usually good for fixing that up as well
18:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> He's dead gym
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18:09 <@sasquatc4> uggh, lordy magordy, when will they ever drop this, http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/bills/?bill=12489961&cs_party=all&cs_status=C&cs_state=ALL
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18:41 <@sdodson> emwav: hi
18:41 < emwav> hey dude, how's it going
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19:11 < infocop411> hi. Are there still active meetings in 423 & 865 areas
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19:14 < jeebusroxors> where is that
19:15 < infocop411> 423 is Chattanooga area & 865 is knoxville
19:16 < jeebusroxors> ah
19:18 < infocop411> received a newsletter with a list of meetings from the mailing list, but I have never seen the Chattanooga business before, & the Chattanooga meeting isn't in the the last quarterly
19:19 < jeebusroxors> i dont know bout that...im in SC
19:20 <@sdodson> jeebusroxors: COME TO CAROLINACON!
19:20 < jeebusroxors> sdodson: im thinking about it
19:20 < jeebusroxors> its like 3 hours for me
19:21 < jeebusroxors> 3 or 4
19:21 < infocop411> I'd go, but Chapel Hill is a stretch, I tried to go to PhreakNIC last minute, but wreaked my car that very Friday.
19:22 < jeebusroxors> its a sign!
19:22 < jeebusroxors> that you suck at driving
19:23 < jeebusroxors> ;)
19:23 <@Dagmar> No the sign is what he missed... the one saying "SOLID OBJECT AHEAD"
19:23 <@Dagmar> They usually say something like that don't they?
19:23 <@Dagmar> I never read them
19:23 < infocop411> Rainy night, mountain road. I was asking for it. that much is for sure. at least no one got heart
19:24 <@Dagmar> Ooo yeah
19:24 < jeebusroxors> getting heart sucks :(
19:24 <@Dagmar> I *used* to drive like a heathen.  I drove according to the limits of my reflexes and whataver POS car I was driving
19:24 < jeebusroxors> i've almost died twice in the past week
19:24 <@Dagmar> I had no qualms about skidding to a stop on the shoulder or doing powerslides
19:25 < Shadow404> Dagmar: thats the same way i was
19:25 <@Dagmar> Then I realized that perhaps I might not *have* to do so many crazy fucking things if I didn't _drive like a madman_ everywhere
19:25 < Shadow404> then i had a few wrecks and had to start paying my own insurance
19:26 <@Dagmar> In my defense, I was driving between Mt. Juliet and Murfreesboro a lot and most fo the hillbillies back through Lebanon still drive like there's only them and the occasional horse-drawn buggy on the roads
19:26 <@Dagmar> So, a lot of it was just "not being run over by a redneck swinging his boat trailer wide"
19:26 < Shadow404> lawl
19:27 <@sdodson> It's always someone else's fault
19:27 <@Dagmar> It's cool to come around a turn at 60 and realize that there's a giant orange Ford truck pulling a boat coming the other way, and between the boat trailer and the truck, there is nowhere to go but over the fence
19:27 < Shadow404> thats why i always blame stuff on sdodson
19:27 <@Dagmar> ...which I suppose was lucky because if I'd eben doing the speed limit I would have never cleared that fence.
19:28 <@Dagmar> I'm glad the car didn't flip on the bounces tho
19:28 < infocop411> Sections of US-64 & US 129 are the worst I've seen. been to Nashville for the recent State of the State address, most of that area seems simpler (crosses fingers for next trip to nashville isn't jinxed.)
19:30 <@Dagmar> Oh and in case anyone's wondering yes I am aware that clearing the fence is like "luckly he was thrown from the vehicle"
19:31  * Shadow404 looks around for confirmation of that curiousity and only hears crickets
19:31 < jeebusroxors> i agree!
19:33 <@Dagmar> Which curiousity?
19:34 <@Dagmar> You've never heard an ignorant redneck claiming they never wear seatbelts because of some hillbilly cousin of theirs who had a massive ten flip rollover accident that would have killed them except they were thrown from the vehicle on the first roll and survived with only minor scratches because they weren't wearing their "death belt"?
19:35 < infocop411> well I gotta sign off for awhile & do some homework, if anyone finds out about either of those meetings please send a message to the mailing list. (I'm not the only one needing to know)
19:35 < infocop411> nice chatting
19:35 < Shadow404> no fortunately not
19:35 < jeebusroxors> if you know anyone in the columbia SC area let them know theres a meeting friday!
19:37 < infocop411> nope, unless they are camping there this week. I knew two but they moved north to Asheville.
19:38 < jeebusroxors> meh
19:39 < infocop411> there is a hardwood forest park in town we camped at once or twice, but now they wait for the drier summer months.
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19:40 < infocop411> & I haven't been in five years
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19:41 < jeebusroxors> sdodson: are you going to carolinacon?
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20:04 < jeebusroxors> distcc roooockks
20:07 <@Dagmar> lol head of security!
20:09 <@Dagmar> oh geez
20:09 < jeebusroxors> security shmacurity
20:09 <@Dagmar> A Crystal Light commercial where a woman gets a pearl necklace that splashes
20:09 <@Dagmar> jeebusroxors: You don't follow Lost, do you
20:09 < jeebusroxors> nope
20:10 < jeebusroxors> tv is for the weak
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20:15 <@Wilpig> anyone else have their resume online someone for me to look at?
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20:17 <@aestetix> You know what rocks.
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20:17 <@brimstone> your socks
20:17 <@aestetix> Facebook turned me down for their security team.
20:17 <@brimstone> by me
20:18 <@aestetix> Less than a week later, all this news about viruses in facebook starts coming out.
20:18 <@aestetix> Yeah, it makes sense to turn down the guy with professional experience in security and malware.
20:18 <@aestetix> Go, team!
20:18 <@Dagmar> Yeah I posted how many days ago?
20:18 <@Dagmar> They suck
20:19 <@aestetix> Dagmar: it was a bunch of children anyways.
20:19 <@Dagmar> aestetix: And in case the tight guy obscured it, I think you're onto a good theory there
20:19 <@aestetix> A good theory?
20:19 <@Dagmar> Well, of course.  It's a great big electronic "Who's in my clique and who isn't" app
20:19 <@aestetix> Oh.
20:19 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Yeah, point and plane breaks horribly tho.  Been down that road bafore
20:19 <@aestetix> Dude, they didn't even bother to check my references.
20:19 <@Dagmar> Wow sad
20:20 <@aestetix> I'm pretty sure they looked, saw no degree, and ignored everything else and decided I couldn't possibly work there.
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20:20 <@Dagmar> P.E.I. Bonewitcz (spelled wrong probably) had a book called "Real Magick" full of mental exercises that got me thinking along those lines about a decade or so ago
20:20 <@aestetix> Dagmar: fair enough. I've been meaning to comment on that little discussion but... been overworking myself.
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20:22 <@aestetix> But seriously. Facebook's security policy towards applications is so fucking broken, it's no wonder they're having issues with viruses.
20:22 <@aestetix> I can talk about that because they told me about it before I signed the NDA ;)
20:22 < jeebusroxors> Wilpig: i can dig one up...
20:22 < jeebusroxors> Wilpig: what field?
20:22 <@aestetix> Seriously. They have a strike rule. If an app does something bad, then the place gets blacklisted, or something like that.
20:23 <@aestetix> I said "what about a company that creates a new account specificially to propagate malware, and doesn't care it they get blacklisted?"
20:23 <@aestetix> They didn't know how to answer it.
20:23 <@aestetix> I'm like "Ok, so I create a facebook app that acts as a proxy, and I can then send malicous code that looks like it's coming from facebook?"
20:23 <@aestetix> Again, no solid answer.
20:24 <@Wilpig> tech
20:24 <@aestetix> Almost makes me wish I actually used their fucking website, so I could bitch and whine about it.
20:24 < jeebusroxors> Wilpig: give me a sec - i need to take a shower :(
20:25 < jeebusroxors> working from home fucks up my schedule so bad
20:25 <@Wilpig> this is the internet nobody cares if you smell bad.  up til you show up at PN smelling bad
20:25 < ware> Wilpig: you see my pm to Evilpig
20:25 < jeebusroxors> not going to pn
20:26 <@Wilpig> yeah
20:26 <@Wilpig> both those positions want certs I don't have.  but with all the experience I have it shouldnt be required i'd think
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20:29 <@Dagmar> Unless their HR people have their heads up their asses
20:29 <@Dagmar> At LEAST as far as the gall bladedr
20:30 <@Wilpig> I REALLY need to stop letting myself get distracted while working on this
20:30 < jeebusroxors> Wilpig: where at?
20:30 <@Dagmar> You can find out all the depressing shit about Facebook's lack-of-security policy just by reading their site actually
20:31 <@Wilpig> my mind is wandering working back over my past projects but I keep thinking alot are just too small to consider
20:32 <@aestetix> Dagmar: yeah.
20:32 <@aestetix> Dagmar: whereas Apple.... oh my god those guys know their shit.
20:39 <@Dagmar> I'd have to agree
20:40 <@Dagmar> The aliens have been good to them.
20:43 <@Wilpig> http://wilpig.org/~wilbur/resumeideas.txt
20:49 < jeebusroxors> nice
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21:00 <@Wilpig> ooo I had a large job in benton county upgrading all their servers from netware 5 and 5.1 to 6 then 6.5
21:01 <@Wilpig> we also moved all their servers from the individual schools to the board office too
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21:02 <@Dagmar> Oh motherfuckers
21:02 <@Dagmar> Way to not solve any plot points
21:02 <@Wilpig> what were you watching?
21:03 < [1NF0]> What do you Linux users prefer for network diagrams?
21:03 <@Wilpig> dia
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21:03 < aestetix_> wtf?
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21:03 < [1NF0]> yup, using that... wondering if I'm missing something
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21:04 <@aestetix> that was odd
21:04 <@Wilpig> it takes a little bit of getting used to
21:04 <@Wilpig> but once you get it done it works well
21:04 < [1NF0]> oh no doubt. ;)
21:04 <@brimstone> i use graphviz
21:09 <@sdodson> jeebusroxors: yes
21:10  * sdodson puts brimstone in the cloud
21:10  * brimstone swims with the carebears
21:10 <@sdodson> brimstone: omg you're a hater?
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21:11 <@brimstone> eff the cloud man
21:11 <@brimstone> i only see it for quick distrobution of public things
21:14 <@sdodson> brimstone: no way!
21:14 < Synx_hm> http://pjrc.com/teensy/index.html
21:14 <@brimstone> then tell me, what kind of personal/private information can you store in the cloud, and how would you do it?
21:15 <@sdodson> Synx_hm: what a let down, i was hoping for hot tweens
21:15 <@sdodson> brimstone: Anything, I'd run it in my own cloud.
21:15 <@brimstone> kinda defeats it, running your own cloud
21:16 <@sdodson> To me cloud is more about service provisioning and deployment than it is about using Amazon.
21:16 <@brimstone> isn't that just distributed computing?
21:16 <@sdodson> No.
21:16 <@sdodson> Ya, pretty much.
21:16 <@brimstone> i thought the idea behind "the cloud" was that you didn't have to manage jack
21:16 <@sdodson> It's all about elasticity.
21:16 <@brimstone> you let someone else dick with that
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21:17 < Synx_hm> ok is there yet a way to pulse dial over a VoIP router?
21:17 <@Dagmar> HAHAHAH
21:17 <@Dagmar> Not really, no.
21:17 < Synx_hm> :(
21:17 <@Dagmar> Not unless you have control over whether or not it can pick up the line and hang it up
21:18 < Synx_hm> wonder how hard it would be to make a pulse to dtmf converter box
21:18 < Synx_hm> there has got to be an easy way
21:18 <@Dagmar> Does your telco even "do" pulse signalling anymore?
21:18 < Synx_hm> duno i dont have a land line right now
21:18 <@Dagmar> So why the hell are you trying to pulse dial a VOIP call?
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21:18 <@brimstone> why are you pulse dialing?
21:18 <@brimstone> ya
21:18 < Synx_hm> Dagmar, because i have a think for rotary phones
21:19 < Synx_hm> thing
21:19 <@brimstone> so you want to pulse dial from your phone?
21:19 < Synx_hm> and i would like to get a rotary payphone to use
21:19 < Synx_hm> yes
21:19  * brimstone hands Synx_hm an IAXy
21:19 <@brimstone> they support it
21:19 < Synx_hm> is that a pc interface card? or standalone
21:19 <@Dagmar> No problem.  Just write your own software to read an A/D converter and replace the rotor with a varisistor
21:19 < Synx_hm> ohh
21:20 <@brimstone> http://www.digium.com/en/products/analog/s101i.php
21:20 <@brimstone> IAX2 ATA
21:20 <@Dagmar> ANY slow as piece of shit should be able to read an A/D converter well enough to figure out the ramps pulse-dialing makes
21:20 < Synx_hm> ya
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21:20 <@Wilpig> my cats are so strange at times.  they are both crawled up here on the bed with me sleeping
21:21 <@Dagmar> Like, I'm pretty sure I could have done it with my old Commodore 645
21:21 <@Dagmar> er 64
21:21 <@Dagmar> If you can find an older Soundblaster card with the 25pin joystick port on it, there's your A/D converter
21:22 < Synx_hm> hehe
21:22 < Synx_hm> thanks brimstone
21:22 <@Dagmar> You can also buy them for about a buck fifty
21:22 <@dasunt> Dagmar: When did Soundblaster cards have 25 pins?
21:23 < Synx_hm> brimstone, ever used one of those IAXy's?
21:23  * dasunt thought Midi was 15.
21:23 <@brimstone> Synx_hm: a few times, they work pretty well i think
21:23 <@dasunt> Two rows, 7 & 8, right?
21:23  * brimstone points Synx_hm at his hostmask and continues to shamelessly promote his own company
21:23 < Synx_hm> brimstone, still looking at specs but does it have power such that i could plug it into my wall and power say 3-4 phones around my house
21:23 <@Dagmar> Don't know, don't give a fuck, it's obsolete technology and you guys now know what I was talking about ANYWAY
21:23 <@Dagmar> So, don't get pedantic about it
21:24 < Synx_hm> brimstone, are you f'ing serious
21:24 < Synx_hm> brimstone, you deisgn this thing?
21:24 <@brimstone> no, i just work for them
21:24 <@brimstone> didn't design anything fancy
21:25 < Synx_hm> brimstone, well redesign the case its fucking hidious
21:25 < Synx_hm> but cool
21:25 < Synx_hm> ;)
21:25 <@brimstone> you should have seen the s100
21:25 <@brimstone> http://ruk.ca/article/2501
21:26 < Synx_hm> can i use the iaxy without a asterisk box? ie as a normal sip phone with any service
21:27 <@tzanger> I-MOD: ping?
21:28 <@brimstone> Synx_hm: iax != sip, so no
21:28 <@brimstone> but, there are iax providers out there you could use it with
21:28 < Synx_hm> figured as such but i am not very much in the know on voip
21:28 <@brimstone> there's also probably cheaper sip ATAs that do support pulse dial
21:28 <@brimstone> but i dunno which ones do
21:28 < Synx_hm> now to remember who ive got some money with
21:29 < Synx_hm> ahh nufone
21:30 <@brimstone> <3 nufone
21:30 < Synx_hm> ya saved me an ass load on my last deployment
21:32 <@tzanger> haven't used those boys in ages
21:32 <@tzanger> I like jerjer
21:32 < Synx_hm> man this has got me excited about using my rotary's again
21:32 < Synx_hm> wish i hadn't gotten rid of the rotary poll mount test box
21:33 <@Dagmar> I think you need help.
21:33 <@Dagmar> ...and I don't mean tech support.
21:33 <@Wilpig> lol
21:33 < Synx_hm> thats all i had in my old place, sucked for calling 800numbers that wouldn't let you out of the loop
21:42 < Synx_hm> anyone know a way to change the name that appears for callerid but not the number from a cell?
21:42 < Synx_hm> ie when dialing outbound from a cell without using another service
21:42 < Synx_hm> nm dumb question
21:43 <@aestetix> vagina
21:44 <@Wilpig> would anyone think that setting up openvpn would be worth noting on a resume?
21:44 <@brimstone> only if you're applying for an OSS company
21:45 <@sdodson> Wilpig: what pay range are you looking to land and are you interested in relocating?
21:45 <@aestetix> Wilpig: yes.
21:46 <@sdodson> oh btw i was told to setup an asterisk servuh at werk
21:46 <@Wilpig> I am looking at relocating for the right job.  But at this rate it looks like I will be relocating anyhow just a matter of how far
21:46 <@aestetix> Depending on the position you're looking for.
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21:54 <@Wilpig> what about electronic bulletin board type stuff?  three of the companies I did work for they have put in large tvs that had vga ports on them that they either used a simple power point presentation or this fancy little php script I wrote to scroll through websites
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21:56 <@sdodson> "Electronic marketing specialist"
21:58 <@Wilpig> I really have just done a bunch of random stuff.
21:59 <@Wilpig> http://www.svideo.com/vgabalun1.html  <-- these things are fuckin' cool as shit
22:01 <@sdodson> I put "professional geek" on my resume.
22:02 <@aestetix> You should put "child molester"
22:03 <@aestetix> that will make people look at your resume really closely
22:03 <@Dagmar> Umm... maybe to make sure you don't live on their street.
22:04 <@tzanger> aestetix: hahahaha
22:04 <@sdodson> aestetix: I'm surprised more than a dozen or so people find you socially acceptable
22:07 <@aestetix> sdodson: and 90% of then are under 16
22:07 <@tzanger> oh come on
22:07 <@tzanger> I found that funny
22:07 <@tzanger> and I'm 33
22:08 <@brimstone> what's the common house amperage per circuit? 20amps?
22:08 <@tzanger> 15
22:09 <@tzanger> 20A is in specialty circuits, as is 25
22:09 <@sdodson> Ya, 20A circuits for garage stuff maybe.
22:09 <@sdodson> 200A service to most homes.
22:09 <@Dagmar> I think the one for the oven in my apartment is 20 or 25
22:09 <@tzanger> that'll be split phase as well
22:14 <@sdodson> ooh, Wait Wait Don't Tell Me i s coming to town.
22:14 <@dasunt> 15 amps.
22:14 <@dasunt> Bedrooms now need an arc fault protector in TN.
22:14 <@dasunt> Bathrooms should be GFI.
22:15 <@dasunt> Also all outdoor outlets should be GFI.
22:15 <@sdodson> Ya, bedrooms get AFI here too
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22:30 <@dasunt> sdodson: I was talking about TN.
22:30 <@sdodson> dasunt: THATS AWESOME! I WASNT!
22:32 <@dasunt> GA?
22:32 <@dasunt> AL?
22:32 <@dasunt> Er, AB?
22:32 <@dasunt> Whatever the abbreviation for that state.
22:33 <@brimstone> AL
22:33 <@dasunt> Not htat it matters, Alabama doesn't have electricity or mail service.
22:33 <@brimstone> stuff it, we do too!
22:33 <@brimstone> we got them fancy moving pictures too
22:34 <@sdodson> dasunt: NC  the pride of the southeast
22:34 <@dasunt> It's not a moving picture if it involves people on a stage.
22:36 <@sdodson> dasunt: I still have snow on my back yard!
22:36 <@dasunt> That's probably residue from a meth lab.
22:37 <@sdodson> I don't remember telling you of my business plans, how'd you know?
22:37 <@dasunt> You live in Alabama.
22:37 <@brimstone> brother sdodson!
22:39 <@sdodson> brimstone: we've been over this in time and time again, when in public i'm your daddy
22:40 <@sdodson> that sounded way more gay than the joke in my head
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23:08 <@aestetix> I was in Alabama earlier today.
23:09 <@brimstone> on purpose?
23:09 <@Wilpig> nobody goes there on purpose
23:10  * dasunt sins.
23:10 <@dasunt> Wilpig: So Alabama is like Memphis if it's a state?
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23:16 < Falun> dasunt: no, memphis has music, Alabama has...
23:16 <@brimstone> cotton
23:16 <@brimstone> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand huge ass tires
23:16 <@dasunt> Memphis has music?
23:16 <@dasunt> Doesn't that mean it has culture outside of the mold that grows in the fridge?
23:17 < Falun> it would suggest as much, yea
23:17 <@brimstone> someone's bitter tonight
23:18 <@unixfg> :(
23:22 <@dasunt> I've been to Memphis, twice.
23:22 <@dasunt> Admittedly, it did impress me.
23:23 <@dasunt> On both my trips, the police had haphazardly closed off a road, yet the news the next day never mentioned it.
23:23 <@dasunt> Oh, and the roads had amazing potholes.
23:23 <@dasunt> Other than that though, I could skip the event.
23:23 < Falun> what were you there for?
23:24 < Falun> I've mostly gone in for computer shows and concerts/music festivals so I have a pretty good memory of it
23:25 <@dasunt> I went for the paper money show once.
23:25 <@dasunt> I forget the reason for the other visit.  Probably to buy the ex yarn.
23:25  * dasunt was cruel to her that way.
23:25 <@dasunt> Y
23:26 <@dasunt> Y'know, bring in most of the money each month, pay her student loans, buy her $100 of yarn in an outing.
23:26  * dasunt isn't bitter.  No, not at all.
23:27 <@aestetix> Um.
23:27 <@aestetix> Dare I ask...
23:28 <@dasunt> It's pretty boring.
23:28 <@dasunt> 10 years down the drain.
23:28 <@dasunt> There's somebody else.
23:28 <@dasunt> I'm still the asshole.
23:29 <@aestetix> No.
23:29 <@aestetix> I meant, have you moved on at all?
23:29 <@dasunt> Kinda.
23:29 <@dasunt> Am I hung up on her, thinking she's the one?  No, that died awhile back.
23:29 <@dasunt> Do I have severe trust issues?  Hell yes.
23:30 <@aestetix> Sounds like you need a fling.
23:30 <@dasunt> Oh, I'm persuing one of those that will end horribly.
23:31 <@dasunt> Anything else?
23:33 <@aestetix> You should GOFTOW
23:39 <@Dagmar> It only ends if you formally stop fucking.
23:52 <@dasunt> GOFTOW?
23:53 <@Dagmar> GO Fuck Ten Other Women
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23:53 <@Dagmar> I'd like to do that but Opheria wouldn't put up with it
23:58 <@dasunt> Oh.
23:58 <@dasunt> I'm just disappointed in women.
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