--- Log opened Wed Feb 11 00:00:41 2009 00:11 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@c-75-66-111-159.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:23 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@c-75-66-111-159.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mtown_nerd] by ChanServ 00:29 -!- Falun [i=Richard@c-76-17-127-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:35 -!- peaches1984 [i=five@c-68-52-33-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:11 -!- CRasH180 [n=what@c-69-245-26-225.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 01:46 -!- oddball [n=Oddball@169.130.126.50] has joined #se2600 01:52 -!- oddball_ [n=Oddball@169.130.126.50] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:07 -!- eryc- [n=eric@xchat.internetjanitor.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:59 <@mgalgoci> f-ucksdodson: so how'd that fedora install go chief? 03:06 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@c-75-66-111-159.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:07 -!- juice [i=juice@67.48.19.13] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:09 -!- mgalgoci [n=user@adsl-065-005-196-076.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net] has quit ["(Read error: Connection reset by peer)"] 03:10 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:10 -!- _vapor_ [n=Jared@c-69-137-117-103.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:12 -!- TheLightCosine [n=c0malod@c-98-211-40-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o TheLightCosine] by ChanServ 04:13 <@aestetix> I think I just killed twitter 04:13 * TheLightCosine just had a fun idea 04:14 <@TheLightCosine> start running sql injection against those stupid "want a mrotgage" or "interested in going to colelge" advertisements heh 04:45 <@TheLightCosine> goddamnit, everyone wnats web devs these days 04:45 <@maco> and youre surprised? 04:47 <@TheLightCosine> meh it doesn't matter i don't think i;d get past the bakcground check for this job 04:47 <@TheLightCosine> it pays between 62-80k a eyar tho, 8sigh* 04:51 <@aestetix> not bd 04:51 <@aestetix> bad* 04:51 <@TheLightCosine> yeah no kidding 04:51 <@TheLightCosine> i'll probably apply anyways just so they can reject me 04:52 <@TheLightCosine> i alsdo don't have the level of experience they're asking for 04:57 -!- TheLightCosine [n=c0malod@c-98-211-40-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 05:20 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has joined #se2600 05:43 -!- TheLightcosine [n=c0malod@c-98-211-40-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 05:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o TheLightcosine] by ChanServ 07:37 <+jeebusroxors> eh, you can bs around that 07:38 <+jeebusroxors> managment is fucking stupid, pay someone with the know how for 80k, or hiring someone that kind knows whats going on for 60 07:38 <+jeebusroxors> theyll take the 60 07:40 <@TheLightcosine> ggrrr 07:40 <@TheLightcosine> .NET is really pissing me off right now 07:42 <@sdodson> f-ucksdodson: what happened to 00:30 <@scoil> okay im emo quiting for good from freenode if you want to talk to me that sucks for you cuz sdodson ruined it for everyone 07:42 <@TheLightcosine> hunh? 07:43 <@TheLightcosine> oh i misread that at first heh 07:44 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has joined #se2600 08:02 -!- _vapor_ [n=Jared@c-69-137-117-103.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:16 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@c-69-180-199-167.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 08:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: if only it was that easy to get someone to leave freenode 08:38 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=mj0j0@cpe-069-134-098-163.nc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 08:44 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-155-192-189.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:45 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-217-156-219.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 08:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 08:49 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:50 <@TheLightcosine> morning dole 08:50 < ware> what the fukc is up 08:50 <@TheLightcosine> i'm going to Redmond to stab someone in the face i think 08:53 < ware> magic tcg online == win 08:54 <@TheLightcosine> ware: you are seriously spending money on palying magic online? 08:58 -!- Drag0n` [n=dragon@12.116.138.30] has joined #se2600 08:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Drag0n`] by ChanServ 08:58 < ware> yeah 08:58 < ware> 20$ 09:00 <@Shadow404> major jail 09:00 < ware> pretty interesting 09:00 < ware> ROFL 09:00 < ware> just pulled up firefox 09:00 < ware> loaded redtube @ work 09:00 < ware> ftw 09:01 <@brimstone> TheLightcosine: you look different this morning. new hairdo? 09:01 <@TheLightcosine> ? 09:02 < GodFix[HC]> ware: surfing pr0n at work? 09:02 < ware> yuh ftw 09:02 < GodFix[HC]> wow, guess they don't monitor huh? 09:02 < ware> its tunneled out 09:02 < GodFix[HC]> oh 09:03 < GodFix[HC]> go to www.sublimedirectory.com 09:03 < GodFix[HC]> nsfw 09:03 < ware> so it works, but there was still a page of FUCK on my screen for a good 5 seconds 09:03 < GodFix[HC]> of course 09:03 < ware> old 09:03 < GodFix[HC]> yeah, but good content 09:04 <@TheLightcosine> free6 is an oldy but goody too 09:05 < GodFix[HC]> google "Caleigh Makenzie" 09:05 < GodFix[HC]> suppose to be a local Nashville girl that just did her first DVD 09:07 < GodFix[HC]> http://www.yourfacesucks.com/forums.new/yt.php?v=V2waygt8Skc probably NSFW 09:15 <@Dolemite> teh google doesn't appear to have anything on that spelling that is relevant 09:15 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:16 <@TheLightcosine> fucking microshit 09:16 <@TheLightcosine> and their bullshit pathtoolong exceptions 09:16 <@Shadow404> what archaic filesystem are you using and how long is the path? 09:18 <@TheLightcosine> NTFS mofaku 09:18 <@TheLightcosine> and there is a 260byte path limit in windoze apparently 09:19 -!- nachoguy [i=boster@ivan.dreamhost.com] has joined #se2600 09:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o nachoguy] by ChanServ 09:19 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:19 <@critch> TheLightcosine: I think it is 255 in reality 09:21 <@TheLightcosine> oooh i figured out how to get around it in a bullshit sotr of way heh 09:22 <@Shadow404> use the progra~1 trick of calling paths? 09:22 <@TheLightcosine> hrm, not sure if thatwould work or not 09:22 <@TheLightcosine> i was gunn say to use net use 09:23 <@TheLightcosine> \\\documents and settings\\local settings\temporary internet files\content.ie5 could just become z:\ heh 09:24 <@Shadow404> nice 09:24 < GodFix[HC]> don't forget to use "", so it's like "\\\documents and settings\\local settings\temporary internet files\content.ie5 09:25 < GodFix[HC]> otherwise it'll try using" \\computer\documents" 09:25 < GodFix[HC]> freaking response time is slow this morning 09:25 -!- peaches1984 [i=five@c-68-52-33-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:26 <@TheLightcosine> GodFix[HC]: yeah already made that mistake once today heh 09:27 < GodFix[HC]> imagine doing that in a login script 09:29 <@TheLightcosine> the problem is i'm now gunna have to go back further into the code to implement this properly 09:29 <@TheLightcosine> toherwise it'll be kludgey as hell 09:33 -!- oddball [n=Oddball@169.130.126.50] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:38 <@Shadow404> nachoguy: you need to put 3lb of blackberries is wwith your brew, when its in the secondary fermenter 09:38 <@Dolemite> be0tch! that's what I did and was going to tell him! 09:39 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 09:39 <@Dolemite> and you don't just put 'em in there 09:39 <@Dolemite> you steep them in 150F water for 20 minutes to get the enzymes flowing 09:41 -!- oddball [n=Oddball@169.130.126.50] has joined #se2600 09:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 09:41 <@TheLightcosine> blackberries in beer? 09:42 <@Dolemite> cider 09:42 <@Dolemite> or rather, apfelwein 09:42 <@Shadow404> mmmmm 09:42 <@TheLightcosine> ah 09:42 <@Dolemite> but yes, lots of beers have fruit in them 09:42 <@Dolemite> lambic ales, for one 09:42 <@Shadow404> yeah, go to germany 09:42 <@Shadow404> really good fruit beers 09:42 <@oddball> hard cider? GIMME! 09:42 <@TheLightcosine> yeah prolly not one i'd like to drink 09:42 <@TheLightcosine> i'm a guiness kinda guy 09:42 <@Shadow404> no no, i didnt think i would like them, but its wasnt half bad 09:42 <@Dolemite> oddball : You still live in those apartments on Neese Dr.? 09:43 <@oddball> not for long! 09:44 <@oddball> (am buying a house) 09:44 <@Dolemite> Ah, well NotLarry is your new neighbor 09:44 <@oddball> Yeah, so I heard 09:44 <@Dolemite> tell him to make you some hard cider, he has the full setup for it 09:44 <@Dolemite> where you buying? congrats! 09:44 <@oddball> damn shame he's not my downstairs neighbor. The current occupants are noisy asshats. 09:45 <@oddball> Over near Starwood. 09:45 <@Dolemite> Davidson County or Rutherford? 09:45 <@oddball> Still in Davidson, but not by much. 09:45 <@nachoguy> hrm, maybe I'll try that for my second batch 09:45 <@nachoguy> I'm still jonesin for the first, which I haven't bottled yet 09:46 <@Dolemite> Yeah, we looked at places near there but most everything we found was either too small or too big. Not much in the medium sized housing market. 09:47 <@Dolemite> But hey, staying in Davidson (and out of LaVergne) means you don't have to use TDS Telecom 09:47 <@oddball> This place is a little over 1500 square feet and not some cookie cutter. 09:48 <@Dolemite> yeah, our sweet spot was 2000-2500 sf but everything was either <1500 or >3000, and the few things we could find in between were outrageous $/sf prices 09:48 <@oddball> Which probably won't be big enough for me to live in for the rest of my life, but should work for the next several years 09:48 <@Dolemite> yep, and now is a good time to buy when the market is so geared to buyers 09:48 <@Dolemite> when the market recovers you'll be in the catbird seat, so to speak 09:49 < ware> http://appraisercentral.com/cleanscreen.swf 09:56 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Just remember, don't drink the first batch for 4 weeks after you bottle it 09:56 <@Dolemite> at a minimum 09:56 <@Dolemite> it has to age at least a little 09:57 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@adsl-074-185-099-026.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 09:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 09:59 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@pat1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 09:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o nightcarnage] by ChanServ 10:04 <@nachoguy> i know, it's gonna kill me though 10:12 < ware> ugg 10:12 < ware> this warm weather has stirred something in people around here 10:13 < ware> everyone is all gung-ho lets change policies and put in administrative measures and do all this shit we always talk about doing 10:13 < ware> SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT 10:14 < ware> for fucks sake its not irc, this shit aint srs and unless youre gonna whip out more than you e-peen to compare sizes GO THE FUCK BACK TO YOUR OFFICE AND EAT SHIT 10:14 <@oddball> wait... you're upset because people are being productive? 10:14 < ware> counter-productive, extremely 10:14 <@oddball> ah, ok 10:14 < ware> its solutions without due process 10:14 <@oddball> gotcha 10:14 < ware> lets do it so that i can excersize my clout and stadning with the clique that runs this shit 10:15 < ware> cause i dont do shit all day but mash buttons and talk down to the underlings! 10:15 < ware> 10:15 < ware> just tired of ppl 10:16 * TheLightcosine applauds ware 10:17 <@ShadowHntr> so what else is new? 10:18 < ware> i need to get laid but thats not new news 10:18 * Corydon76-dig posts an ad for ware on Craigslist 10:19 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: make sure it has alot of lulz 10:19 <@Corydon76-dig> "Use me as your toilet" 10:19 <@ShadowHntr> TMI 10:22 <@nachoguy> ware, it is audit season 10:26 <@nachoguy> we're having fun with retarded policies getting implemented 10:26 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 10:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o M0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 10:30 < ware> Corydon76-dig: id rather use IRC as my toilet 10:30 < ware> get drunk, bond with it, then spew regurgitated shit all over it 10:30 <@Corydon76-dig> You don't want a woman to shit and piss in your mouth? 10:31 <@Corydon76-dig> I hear that's an incredible turn-on for straight guys 10:31 <@Dolemite> You heard wrong 10:32 < ware> i think most of his upbringing and knowledge transfers outside of technical were wrong in the most fucked up way imaginable 10:32 <@I-MOD> the mouth is for food 10:33 <@nachoguy> I-MOD, no that just they want you to think 10:33 <@nachoguy> you shove food up your ass, and crap out your mouth 10:33 <@I-MOD> and maybe drinks 10:33 <@I-MOD> no thanks, nachoguy 10:33 <@nachoguy> (South Park reference) 10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Your ass as a pancake mixer 10:35 <@nachoguy> well, your ass is a waffle iron 10:35 <@nachoguy> wait, what're we talking about? 10:36 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Damn, too late to save you. You already asked. 10:36 <@Corydon76-dig> We're talking about ware and cattle 10:37 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, I thought it was just a discussion about asses and breakfast. Now, who's the toaster?! 10:37 <+eryc> http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6827/howtonotfailatlifepn3he9.png 10:38 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 10:39 < ware> do you believe in life after love? 10:39 < ware> i can hear something inside meee saaayyyyy 10:40 <@nachoguy> haha 10:40 <@nachoguy> Cherware 10:40 < ware> haha nice 10:40 <@Corydon76-dig> So the question is, does ware have a life now, or was he really ever in love? 10:40 <@nachoguy> Cherware comes with annoying popups asking for money, and auto terminates after 30 days. 10:40 <@TheLightcosine> Corydon76-dig: are eithe thing possible? 10:41 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightcosine: it's possible that both are false 10:41 -!- dc0de [i=dc0de@silenceisdefeat.com] has joined #se2600 10:41 <@nachoguy> a double negative? Ware is positive! 10:41 <@TheLightcosine> wtf net use, i am gunna freak out in a second here 10:42 < dc0de> Morning all. 10:42 <@nachoguy> m0rnin dc0de. How goes? 10:42 < dc0de> not too bad.. still trying to "get back to work" after shmoocon 10:42 < ware> Corydon76-dig: there is life outside of HC 10:43 < ware> i know some people dont believe that but, its true! 10:43 <@nachoguy> you guys and your "I'm so cool, I can go to more than one con a year" attitudes => 10:44 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: I know there's life outside of HC. I'm the one getting laid, remember? 10:44 < ware> i try not to 10:44 < dc0de> Hey, so is Al, and he goes to more than one con a year. 10:45 <@nachoguy> dc0de, actually that was just me grumbling about only going to one con a year. It had nothing to do with Cherware's horse sex 10:45 <@Dolemite> Yeah, well, I get to go to more than one Playhouse Disney show a year!$!@# 10:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: you are so lucky! 10:46 < dc0de> nachoguy I make it a point to go to at least Phreaknic, Outerz0ne, & Summercon since they're local 10:46 <@Dolemite> ware : You should come along. Lots of milf at those shows. 10:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: do you get to go to Chuck E Cheese on a regular basis, too? 10:46 < dc0de> and now that I'm staff at DC, I go there as well. 10:46 < dc0de> Shmoocon was just a "bonus". 10:46 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : I do! But I refuse to eat there. 10:46 < dc0de> Dolemite yeah, but milf is a challenge... 10:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: and do you get to watch Barney and Sesame Street every day? 10:46 <@Dolemite> dc0de : Not some of the ones I see at these shows 10:47 <@Corydon76-dig> (or hear Patrick singing the Barney song?) 10:47 <@Dolemite> No, Barney was pretty much banned for the age when he'd be interested. Now he's into Blue's Clues, Dora the Explorer, and Wow Wow Wubzy. 10:47 <@TheLightcosine> wow wow wubzy? 10:47 <@TheLightcosine> wtf is that? 10:48 < dc0de> Dolemite then you'll have to get me more info!!! 10:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Wow, I'm so deprived. I've never heard of that 3rd one 10:48 <@Dolemite> http://www.nickjr.com/shows/wubbzy/index.jhtml 10:48 <@Dolemite> Wubbzy is cool 10:48 < ware> Corydon76-dig misses going to chuck-e-cheese... they banned him from every venue in the nation 7 years ago because of an incident in the ball pit 10:48 < ware> :P 10:48 <+eryc> wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubbbbbbzzzyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 10:48 <@Dolemite> Yo Gabba Gabba! is just plain WEIRD 10:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, I've never been to Chuck-E-Cheese 10:49 <+eryc> sober 10:49 < ware> maybe thats where all the repressed feelings came from 10:50 <@Dolemite> We pretty much have Noggin tuned in on the TV until about 8 PM 10:50 < ware> causing your illness 10:50 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: Again, I'm the well-adjusted one getting laid 10:51 <@TheLightcosine> ah no trailing slashes on a net use or it assume another directory 10:51 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : Yes, but you're getting teh cock. Something ware has no interest in. 10:51 <@TheLightcosine> heh 10:52 < ware> its like compaing apples to faggots, ones a fruit and, well, one a day keeps the doctor away 10:52 -!- peaches1984 [i=five@c-68-52-33-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:52 <@TheLightcosine> wow that joke was lame 10:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: I think he's interested only in what is impossible for him to get. If he couldn't get cock, he'd want it 10:52 <@Dolemite> ware : ok, I go and stand up for you and then you spew out garbage like that 10:52 <@Shadow404> fail 10:53 < ware> yeah it didnt work out 10:53 < ware> "and the other once a day keeps the doc" blah blah blah 10:53 < ware> OH SHIT WARE DIDNT MAKE A FUNNY LETS JUMP HIS SHIT CAUSE HIS LULZ ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOLDEN 10:54 <@rhia> ware: hint: it wasn't the delivery, it was the content 10:54 < ware> You exceeded the $150 monthly budget you set for Groceries by $2 10:55 < ware> how about this one 10:55 < ware> what'd one homo say to the other? 10:56 <+eryc> suck my dick 10:56 < ware> "MMrppff hrmh MmMMpHH!" 10:56 < ware> cause he had an apple 10:57 < ware> in his mouth 10:57 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: you think we could get ware signed up for that test for homophobes? 10:57 < ware> jesus fucking hell what is it with the cock and you 10:57 < ware> jesus hell! 10:57 <+eryc> jeses was a homo 10:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Me? I just think you're repressed; that's all. 10:58 <@nachoguy> Corydon, sign him up for the test with homoprobes 10:58 < ware> NEXT TOPIC, lets find the common denomenator 10:58 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@c-98-193-195-95.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #SE2600 10:58 <@nachoguy> hey Dagmar 10:58 < ware> HEY! yall see that article on networkworld about 9mil stolen 10:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 10:58 < ware> from ATMs across the country 10:58 <@nachoguy> yeah, a couple days ago 10:58 <@nachoguy> pretty slick 10:59 <+eryc> is that the same as the one a few weeks ago 10:59 < ware> yuh 10:59 <+eryc> where they took a few pennies from everyone 10:59 < ware> thought that was interesting 10:59 <+eryc> how they do that 10:59 < ware> no this was the one they did in unison, in 30 minutes 100 cards were used to dump 9mil 10:59 <+eryc> dont you need a merchant id and shizzle 10:59 <@nachoguy> eryc, they did it from ATMs 11:00 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 11:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o M0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 11:00 <@nachoguy> ware, you got the link handy for him? it was a good read 11:00 <@Dolemite> the flash mob 11:00 <+eryc> is this the same one? 11:00 <+eryc> with the pennies 11:00 <+eryc> doesnt sound like it 11:00 <@I-MOD> sounds like office space 11:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> our interwebs are down 11:00 <@nachoguy> someone pulled the superman 3/officespace bit in real life again? 11:01 < ware> http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/090202_FBI_Investigates_9_Million_ATM_Scam 11:01 <+eryc> they were saying to check your bank account for stolen pennies 11:01 < ware> i didnt hear about that 11:02 < ware> but thats what happened in office space, and in uhh.. swordfish 11:02 <@Dolemite> and Superman 3! 11:02 <@Dolemite> With Richard Pryor! 11:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> they steal about 300 pennies from me every time I used the ATM 11:02 < ware> ohh 11:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> and the robot chick 11:03 <@nachoguy> that was one scary cyprenetic ho-bag 11:03 <@TheLightcosine> http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/090202_FBI_Investigates_9_Million_ATM_Scam 11:03 <@TheLightcosine> *sigh8 11:03 <@TheLightcosine> I will NEVER learn 11:04 <+eryc> crazy 11:07 <@TheLightcosine> wow it all went down inside 40 minutes 11:07 <@TheLightcosine> that's crazy 11:08 <@I-MOD> that's surprisingly well coordinated 11:09 <@TheLightcosine> dude if i was one of the cashers i'd take all the money and say "dude, the card didn't work" 11:09 <@TheLightcosine> i also woudln't be stupid enoguh to let the camera catch me 11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightcosine: there's sometimes more than one camera 11:11 <@TheLightcosine> Corydon76-dig: let's jst say i am 'experienced' in keeping off of cameras 11:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> every time that I've not been caught on camera was just dumb luck 11:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> I have a lot of that 11:14 <@TheLightcosine> i leanred my lesson when i was 15 or 16 about egtting caught on cameras 11:15 <+eryc> http://www.boston.com/business/personalfinance/articles/2009/01/11/mysterious_credit_card_charge_may_have_hit_millions_of_users/ 11:15 <+eryc> thats what i was thinking of 11:15 <@nachoguy> TLC, porno sting operation, eh? 11:15 <@TheLightcosine> heh 11:15 <@TheLightcosine> not quite 11:16 <@Dolemite> severe thunderstorm warning in effect for Middle TN right now 11:16 <@Dolemite> hold on to your butts! 11:16 <@TheLightcosine> oh joy 11:16 <@nachoguy> and if you can't reach yours, grab someone elses! 11:16 <@rhia> those came thru here last night, OK got hit pretty hard 11:16 <@TheLightcosine> 45 minutes till i head home 11:17 * Evilpig grabs Dementia's butt 11:18 * Dementia stabs Evilpig in the face 11:18 <@Evilpig> but he said... 11:18 <@Dementia> Failure to care. 11:19 * Corydon76-dig grabs Evilpig's butt 11:19 <@Dementia> We have flood warnings up here since all the snow mountains are melting. 11:19 <@Evilpig> I NEED AN ADULT! 11:21 <+eryc> http://i.gizmodo.com/5151377/chinas-death-buses-deliver-executions-organ-harvesting-on-the-go 11:26 -!- shadowmoss [n=shadowmo@ra.thehippo.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:30 < ware> wewt, i just made a By_Pass permit acl on a pix. 11:30 < ware> gibs me gold star plzthnx 11:30 <@Shadow404> diaf ok? 11:30 <@brimstone> man, those death busses are messed up 11:31 <@brimstone> china's goberment's got it figured out 11:32 <+eryc> http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm 11:38 <@TheLightcosine> w00t 11:38 <@TheLightcosine> got it to map the entwoprk drive, now just gotta mmake sure it unmaps correctly during clenaup 11:38 <+Mercster> band name -> chinese deathvan 11:40 < ware> TheLightcosine: were you telling me about a freeware version of MTG:Online ? 11:42 < ware> polerin: ping 11:42 <@TheLightcosine> well there's a sorta freeware one 11:42 <+Mercster> NO I WAS BITCH 11:42 <@TheLightcosine> forget what it's called now for some reason 11:42 <+Mercster> Apprentice or, something 11:42 <@TheLightcosine> used to sue a cracked version for deck testing 11:42 < ware> Mercster: what it is? 11:42 <@TheLightcosine> oh no 11:42 <@TheLightcosine> apprentice was years ago 11:42 <+Mercster> oh is there a better one 11:42 < ware> its gotta have multiplayer support 11:43 <+Mercster> Apprentice does but, i dunno of anything after that 11:43 <+Mercster> Apprentice2 is hoted on sf 11:43 <+Mercster> hosted 11:43 < ware> link me up scotty 11:43 < f-ucksdodson> unban first 11:43 <@TheLightcosine> magic workstation 11:43 <+Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprentice_(software) 11:44 <+Mercster> TheLightcosine: ah 11:44 <@TheLightcosine> that's the one evryone was using still when i quit a year ago 11:44 <+Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Workstation 11:44 <@TheLightcosine> pretty sure apprentice has been a dead project for years 11:44 <+Mercster> TheLightcosine: i thot i read that it was just a deck manager or something, but wikipedia says it lets you play too 11:44 <@TheLightcosine> i sued to play on mws 11:44 <+Mercster> k 11:44 <@TheLightcosine> test deck strats before PTQs 11:45 <@TheLightcosine> fat lot of good it did me 11:45 <@TheLightcosine> my problem was that i had too much of a life and not enoguh money 11:46 <+Mercster> i played just a little bit with some friends, but online magic sounds like a cool thing to do 11:46 <@TheLightcosine> it's not if yer into the game for fun 11:46 <@TheLightcosine> people on mws are dicks 11:46 * Mercster shrugs 11:46 <@TheLightcosine> cus it's all playtesting for torunaments 11:46 <+Mercster> i mean if me and ware wanted to play for some reason 11:46 <+Mercster> just for fun 11:47 <+Mercster> not necessarily trying to compete with online leagues or whatever 11:47 <@TheLightcosine> then mew could help facilitate yes 11:47 <@TheLightcosine> er mws 11:47 <+Mercster> mws costs, looks like 11:47 <@TheLightcosine> you can get a cracked version 11:47 <@TheLightcosine> and it only costs to unlock certain features i think 11:49 <+Mercster> apprentice2 - Apprentice2.1 11:49 <+Mercster> Last Update: Jul 04 2007 11:49 <+Mercster> http://sourceforge.net/projects/apprentice2/ 11:49 <+Mercster> might be worth looking at, anyway 11:53 <@TheLightcosine> i stand corrected 11:54 <+Mercster> hasnt been updated in a year, but 11:54 <+Mercster> *shrug* 11:54 <@TheLightcosine> aprentice is old too 11:54 <@TheLightcosine> i remmeber using it back in the 90s 11:55 <@TheLightcosine> like 98 99 anyways 11:56 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:02 -!- TheLightcosine [n=c0malod@c-98-211-40-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 12:08 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 12:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o M0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 12:09 < ware> This project has not released any files. 12:09 < ware> for apprentice2 12:10 <+Mercster> oh, hmm yeah. that's one of the minuses of using apprentice2 12:10 < ware> http://www.octgn.org/ 12:11 <+Mercster> it doesnt actually exist 12:18 < ware> found something mo-betta 12:18 < ware> check phneak 12:20 <+Mercster> yea, getting 12:20 < ware> you gonna d/l it? 12:20 < ware> that one has solitaire mode 12:20 < ware> hehe 12:20 <+Mercster> hm 12:21 < ware> i think polerin and Lissa play 12:21 < ware> with real cards, and i thought oddball did as well 12:26 <@oddball> I stopped playing a few years ago 12:27 <@oddball> and Apprentince should have updates for the new sets 12:27 -!- eatadicksdodson [n=unknown@CPE0018f8a2d126-CM00159a0357b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #se2600 12:27 < eatadicksdodson> Friday the 13th, 2009 at 11:31:30pm UTC UNIX time will reach 1,234,567,890. 12:27 -!- eatadicksdodson [n=unknown@CPE0018f8a2d126-CM00159a0357b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #se2600 [] 12:30 -!- _vapor_ [n=Jared@c-69-137-117-103.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:31 < ware> oddball: sdodson.dun.b.a.douchebag.snsweather.com 12:31 < ware> 12:27 <@eatadicks> Friday the 13th, 2009 at 11:31:30pm UTC 12:31 < ware> er 12:31 < ware> that too haha, but 12:31 < ware> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4399847/Magic_Workstation___All_card_sets_and_pictures_as_of_August_2008 12:31 <@oddball> ah 12:38 <+eryc> the wii has onboard storage right? so you dont need the extra SD card necessarily? 12:38 <@oddball> Correct 12:38 <+eryc> thanks 12:39 <+eryc> a friend was going to get an SD card but i wanted to make sure iwas right about not needing it 12:44 <@Evilpig> the sd card is a nice backup spot though 12:44 <@Evilpig> and you can view pictures and stuff off of it 12:45 <+eryc> ill mention that 12:45 <@Evilpig> plus how much does an sd card even cost? $10? less? 12:45 <+eryc> they were going to go buy a usb-ethernet adapter and an SD card and i was like.. uhh, you know you dont need either of those 12:45 <@Evilpig> if they don't have wifi they need the ethernet adapter 12:46 <+eryc> yea 12:46 <+eryc> i use wifi and i have an sd i nmine 12:47 <+eryc> the network stuff sucks in wii anyway 12:47 -!- timoguin [n=timd@24.179.84.231] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:50 < ware> $10 for 8gb 12:55 -!- timoguin [n=timd@24.179.84.231] has joined #se2600 12:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o timoguin] by ChanServ 13:15 <@aestetix> Hey, /win 4 13:15 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-217-156-219.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:15 <@aestetix> oops 13:16 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-217-152-34.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 13:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 13:20 <@aestetix> Ok, I have a copyright issue 13:20 <@aestetix> I need advice on 13:21 <@critch> IANAL, go ahead 13:21 <@aestetix> Ok. I wrote a firefox plugin for twitter stuff. 13:22 <@critch> read about it 13:22 <@aestetix> In order to do so, I "hijacked" code from an existing plugin to make mine work. It's more accurate to say I added a feature to the plugin. 13:22 <@aestetix> This morning, I got an email from the author of the plugin, stating that I am infringing on his IP. 13:22 <@aestetix> The website does not make any reference to IP/closed source, nor is there any in his code. 13:23 <@aestetix> Further, I had assumed that because firefox is open source, firefox plugins would also be. 13:23 <+Mercster> ... 13:23 <@maco> aestetix: have you seen the MPL under which most plugins are licensed? 13:23 <@maco> aestetix: its open in that you can see it 13:23 <@aestetix> maco: have I ever written a plugin before? 13:23 <@maco> you cant modify it without permission 13:24 <@aestetix> Ok. 13:24 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:24 <@maco> there are some more rules about that...i think whether the name changes has an effect... 13:24 <@aestetix> maco: where do I find that? 13:24 <@maco> well the plugin should say inside what its license is 13:25 <@aestetix> where? 13:25 <@aestetix> The plugin in question is Twitbin 13:25 <@maco> but the text of the mpl is located at http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/MPL-1.1.html 13:25 <@aestetix> Does it have to specify that? 13:25 <@maco> if it doesnt give a license, then its subject to pure copyright 13:26 <@critch> aestetix: all in all, you are responsible for knowing the license of the software before you midify it 13:27 <@aestetix> critch: I made some attempt to find this out, but I also just wanted to get the damned thing working. 13:28 <@maco> hmm ok so you can modify it and its just mozilla's trademarks that interfere with debian 13:28 <@maco> i do remember there being something about permission in there though...maybe that was in 1.0 though 13:29 <@maco> aestetix: did you do this? 13:29 <@maco> You must cause all Covered Code to which You contribute to contain a file documenting the changes You made to create that Covered Code and the date of any change. You must include a prominent statement that the Modification is derived, directly or indirectly, from Original Code provided by the Initial Developer and including the name of the Initial Developer in (a) the Source Code, and (b) in any notice in an Executable version or related documentation in 13:30 <@aestetix> Ok. 13:30 <@aestetix> Yes. 13:30 <@maco> that way users of yours know that bugs may be your fault, not the original guy's fault 13:30 <@aestetix> "It's basically a heavily modified version of an existing plugin, Twitbin, with a new feature called "Filters"." 13:30 <@aestetix> That was in the email I sent to the twitter-dev list 13:31 <@aestetix> I guess I could have explicitly mentioned the guy's name too.. 13:32 <@critch> absent a license, copyright law still applies. 13:33 <@maco> there's no license in there anywhere 13:33 <@maco> jquery's license is the only thing 13:33 <@critch> just saw that 13:33 <@maco> so yeah, you have no right to do anything to the code 13:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Secondarily, even if you are infringing, there are zero damages. 13:34 <@critch> If the software can not stand without the jquery lib, it is GPL/MIT licensed 13:34 <@Shadow404> how much is a double room at the oz5 hotel? 13:34 <@aestetix> critch: it is dependent on jquery 13:35 <@Corydon76-dig> He'd have to have registered his code to get statutory damages 13:35 <@maco> critch: the MIT license isn't viral like GPL though... 13:35 <@critch> interesting enough, if the author gives you much shit, I would sick the jquery guys on him for removing the MIT-LICENSE.txt and GPL-LICENSE.txt files 13:35 <@critch> maco: right 13:35 <@maco> critch: so he can be using jQuery under the MIT license 13:35 <@maco> i'm not sure what the implications of that are though 13:36 <@critch> MIT frees the developer to do as he wishes, GPL frees the code from easily being closed off. 13:36 <@maco> ok so MIT is like BSD? 13:36 <@critch> MIT is like BSD, yes 13:36 <@maco> if he's using jQuery under MIT, he can release the code under pure-copyright 13:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, if he stripped the license, he is himself in violation of copyright 13:38 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: I'd post that back to him and see what he has to say in response 13:38 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: I'm waiting to hear back from a friend with the EFF first. 13:38 <@critch> from the jquery site, MIT-LICENSE.txt, The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. 13:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Contact jquery with it 13:38 <@maco> aestetix: Corydon76-dig is right about the GPL 13:39 <@maco> critch: perhaps he considers 1 file to not be "substantial portions"? 13:39 <@Corydon76-dig> maco: it doesn't matter 13:39 <@critch> maco: the license states it must contain the license. 13:39 <@maco> i only know the GPL and BSD licenses 13:39 <@maco> critch: "or substantial portions" 13:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Removing the license text is still verboten 13:40 <@maco> if its not a copy of the full thing or if its insubstantial chunk.... 13:40 <@maco> that could be a loophole 13:41 <@critch> maco: the one file states it 13:41 <@critch> it's own license 13:42 <@Corydon76-dig> maco: if the contributed code is large enough to be copyrightable, the license applies 13:42 <@critch> I think 3549 lines of code is plenty large enough to be copyrightable 13:42 <@brimstone> what's the minimum? 13:42 <@maco> woah ok didnt know it was that long 13:42 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: depends upon the content 13:43 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: even a single line can be copyrightable, if it expresses art 13:43 <@critch> maco: my guess is it is the entirety of the /src dir compiled down to a single file. 13:44 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: similarly, a header file containing nothing but definitions is almost universally not copyrightable 13:44 <@critch> yep, it is the entirty of the jquery project just in one file. 13:44 <@Dolemite> var $my = new Ass(); $my->Kiss(); 13:44 <@Dolemite> that's art, right there 13:44 <@Shadow404> how much is a double room at the oz5 hotel? 13:45 <@critch> Dolemite: your ass hasn't been new in a long ass time. 13:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: why don't you call and ask 13:45 <@Dolemite> critch : That's why I had to instantiate a new one :( 13:45 <@maco> critch: yikes 13:45 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig: but, a header file with only #defines could be a usable and critical file 13:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: It's probably around $150, twice the cost of a single room 13:46 <@critch> I was just thinking you needed to get it from some singelton 13:46 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: cause im on a confrence call, so i cant call and wondered if anyone knew off hand 13:47 <@brimstone> i'm gonna guess, $69+tax 13:47 <@brimstone> *snort* *snort* 13:48 * Shadow404 notices that brimstone has a white powdery substance on his nose 13:50 <@aestetix> Ok. So in general, how should I proceed here? 13:50 <@aestetix> The guy obviously doesn't understand copyright/IP. 13:50 <@aestetix> But I also don't want to piss him off. 13:52 <@critch> aestetix: while he may be in violation of the MIT or GPL license, the portions he wrote are still under copyright. 13:52 <@critch> aestetix: If you chooses to use jquery under the MIT license, then he can choose any license he wants for the rest of the plugin 13:52 <@Corydon76-dig> but damages are zero 13:53 <@critch> aestetix: you are still required to follow his copyright. 13:53 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: his license, not his copyright 13:53 <+eryc> you can now rename ur plugin to twitfailter 13:53 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: as of this time, there is no license to be found for his code. 13:53 <@aestetix> But his copyright is nonexistent.... 13:54 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: he could take you to court and win on the copyright infringement, but since he gives away the code, he could prove exactly $0 in damages 13:54 <+eryc> twitFAILter 13:54 <@critch> aestetix: He still has copyright unless he chooses to give it away, or disclaims it 13:54 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: that's fine, as long as he pays the court costs. 13:54 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: no, he has an implied copyright 13:54 <@maco> aestetix: copyright exists at the moment of creation 13:54 <@maco> aestetix: his copyright DOES exist 13:54 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: actually, he probably cannot disclaim it 13:55 <@Corydon76-dig> There is no provision under the law for copyright abandonment 13:55 <@maco> aestetix: why would *he* pay the court costs when you are guaranteed to lose? *you* would pay the court costs 13:55 <@critch> I guess when one places work in the public domain, it is just a statement that you will not enforce your copyright claims. 13:55 <@maco> critch: yep 13:55 <@maco> pretty much.... 13:56 <@maco> its like a license that says "have fun kid!" 13:56 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: There's doubt that you can voluntarily place ANYTHING into the public domain 13:56 <@maco> see lessig about that one 13:56 <@Corydon76-dig> There's only two ways under the law for something to be public domain: copyright expiration, and government work 13:56 <@maco> CC give it as an option, but i dont know that it' been tested 13:57 <@Corydon76-dig> The best you can legally do is covenant not to enforce the copyright 13:57 <@critch> pd software has been around for a long time. How would it be tested? If the author doesn't try and maintain control, who is the person harmed to test it? 13:58 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: if a person sold all of their copyrights to a business, the business could argue that the person did not have the right to place it under public domain 13:59 <@Corydon76-dig> and thus it is now owned 13:59 <@Corydon76-dig> A person could also go back on their supposed public domain license, claiming that the license was illegal 13:59 <@critch> okay, I'll agree to that 14:09 -!- scoil [i=not@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 14:10 <@aestetix> God this is annoying. 14:11 <@critch> yep, should have done the homework to begin with, or ask the developer to add your feature to the release. 14:12 <@aestetix> critch: except it would have taken as long to read through the licensing as it would have to write it. 14:13 <@brimstone> "The Palm OS is a dead duck. Palm's CEO Ed Colligan has signed its death sentence today." 14:17 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["*sneeze*"] 14:18 <@maco> aestetix: to read through the licensing? there IS no licensing, that's the thing! 14:18 <@maco> aestetix: and when there's no licensing at all, you don't touch it 14:18 <@aestetix> No kidding. 14:18 <@aestetix> No wait. 14:18 <@aestetix> I totally disagree with that. 14:18 <@aestetix> Which is probably why I'm in this situation now :p 14:18 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: that's the fundamental concept of copyright law 14:19 <@Corydon76-dig> You don't have the right to touch it unless a license is granted that explicitly allows you to 14:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Remember the oft-repeated phrase, "All rights reserved." 14:19 <@Corydon76-dig> The opposite would be "All rights granted" 14:36 < ware> alright 14:37 < ware> who took a shit in the mens bathroom floor 14:38 <@Shadow404> it was that silly asian women 14:38 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 14:38 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:43 < ware> SHAQUITA ELISAJAY MONELL?! 14:44 < ware> Irssi: Doing this is not a good idea. 14:44 < ware> hahaha 14:44 < ware> time for the weekly wednesday whats up 14:45 < ware> anybody haxin' fun stuff lately 14:45 < ware> we got a udp vpn mesh darknet going 14:46 < ware> ntop.org/n2n/ if youre interested 14:46 -!- M0j0-j0j01 [n=Mojo_Joj@152.52.16.3] has joined #se2600 14:46 < ware> roomie hacked cable modem and was gettin 6mbit up / 17mbit down 14:46 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:46 < ware> M0j0-j0j0's got some sweet hacks, whatchu been doing lately 14:50 < ware> yall must be busy... 14:53 <+eryc> i compiled gnu.org 14:54 <@aestetix> apt-get install goatse 15:03 -!- critch [n=critch@c-71-228-230-70.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] --- Log closed Wed Feb 11 15:13:12 2009 --- Log opened Wed Feb 11 15:56:43 2009 15:56 -!- Evilpig [n=wilpig@blueboy.wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 15:56 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 48 nicks [30 ops, 0 halfops, 9 voices, 9 normal] 15:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 15:56 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 4 secs 15:58 < ware> that would be pimp... i could go for a 50% raise 15:58 <@Shadow404> 50%, are you serious? 15:59 < ware> yeah 15:59 < ware> i make a little over 40 16:00 < ware> no tact, but i dont care if ppl know 16:00 <@Corydon76-dig> 50% raise isn't outlandish 16:00 <@Corydon76-dig> If you've got the skills... 16:00 < ware> well i passed up a for sure 12k raise once, and im not going to do that again 16:00 <@Shadow404> ware: hint, 60/2 does not equal 40 16:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: 40 * 1.5 = 60 16:01 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, no fucking duh 16:01 < ware> Shadow404: hint, 50% of 40k is 20k, so a 50% raise would be 60k 16:01 < ware> HINT HINT HINT! :P 16:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: 30k to 60k would be a 100% raise 16:01 -!- f-ucksdodson [n=sdodson@pancakes.scoil.info] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:01 <@Shadow404> heh, i look at it diffrently, but bleh, thats just me 16:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: this is probably why you don't make that much money 16:02 * Mercster stares 16:02 <@Shadow404> well, i make more than 40k 16:02 <@Shadow404> not tact again, but bleh 16:02 < ware> 40k is the average income for an american family 16:02 < ware> i think thats ridiculous 16:03 <@Shadow404> foh shure 16:03 < ware> i piss away enough booze to feed 2 kids =/ 16:03 <@Shadow404> lawl 16:03 <@nachoguy> hows this for tact, my boss got a 50% raise (by ware's math, which I agree with), and I got a 1.25% increase. He told me raises were shitty across the board. 16:03 <@tzanger> actually I read recently that the average middle class family income is $60k (this is in Canada) -- 25 years ago, it was $60k. (both amounts are normalized to 25-years-ago dollars. 16:03 <@Shadow404> that sucks 16:03 < ware> nachoguy: yeah that would piss me off 16:03 <@tzanger> the big difference though is that 25 years ago almost all middle class families had only one working adult bringing in that salary 16:04 <@Shadow404> to many people right now 16:05 < ware> National Median $44,389 16:05 <@nachoguy> ware, yeah, but you need to look at it in a metro area, not nationwide 16:06 < ware> that was the census in 2005 16:06 < ware> for nationwide* 16:06 <@nachoguy> people in bumfuck North Dakota and Manhattan really throw off the skew 16:06 < M0j0-j0j01> nachoguy: hey.. I just got a stellar performance review followed by no raise and a demotion 16:06 <@nachoguy> unless you live in those places 16:06 < M0j0-j0j01> I wish I would have got a 1.25% raise 16:06 -!- fall0ut [n=fall0ut@shitbox.idge.net] has joined #se2600 16:07 -!- M0j0-j0j01 is now known as m0j0-j0j0 16:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 16:07 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: yeah, a 1% raise would be sweet right now 16:07 * poiupoiu just wants to graduate and get a real-full-time job 16:07 <@m0j0-j0j0> shit.. I would have been happy just not getting the demotion 16:08 <@nachoguy> m0j0-j0j0, I got a pretty good review, a 1.25% raise, a practical demotion, and an almost guarentee that I'd never get another promotion unless higher ups leave. Also the new policy is that raises would only come with promotions 16:08 < ware> http://www.hellonashville.com/Economic.cfm 16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: that sucks 16:08 < ware> looks like 44k is about the average in nashville for the 2000 census 16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: raises should come with inflation, at the very least 16:08 <@nachoguy> yeah, nothing like getting boxed into a corner 16:09 <@m0j0-j0j0> corp. said that we had to go from 4 team leads to 2 so I got bumped back down to sr. developer 16:09 <@nachoguy> I even called them on it. they're like well, yeah, you probably won't get the promotion you want unless people leave or we reorg again, but I could potentially get some meaningless promotion, at some point down the line 16:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> my title now indicates that in the last 10 years all I've done is get old. 16:10 -!- TheLightCosine [n=c0malod@c-98-211-40-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o TheLightCosine] by ChanServ 16:10 <@nachoguy> m0j0, yeah, my situation was similar. I'm now a team lead that technically has no team 16:10 <@TheLightCosine> yay my replace alfa card is finally on it's way 16:12 <@nachoguy> my title didn't really change, most liekly because they didn't want to do the paperwork 16:13 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 16:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 16:13 <@m0j0-j0j0> so... we have a team lead without a team... a sr. developer that doesn't want to develop anything.... does anyone need a heart or a brain? 16:16 <@TheLightCosine> lol 16:16 <@Dementia> nachoguy: things not going so well then? 16:16 <@TheLightCosine> i'm a support coordinator that doesn't want to help people anymore ;) 16:19 -!- scoil [i=not@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 16:24 <@aestetix> m0j0-j0j0: sounds fun 16:27 <@nachoguy> Dementia, for me, not great. The company is doing ok 16:28 <@nachoguy> I'm trying to stick it out until my next review. New boss thinks he can make it worth my while 16:33 < ware> Dolemite: ! 16:33 < ware> i just saw you on news channel 4 16:33 < ware> who was the chick in the mini skirt on your arm?! 16:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> sister 16:35 <+eryc> srs? 16:35 < ware> his sister is hot 16:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: oh, on channel 4? 16:35 < ware> yeah! 16:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: that was your mom. 16:36 < ware> shiat 16:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: yer mom is hot?! 16:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> that's gross 16:36 < ware> shes muh momma 16:36 < ware> i cant be sayin shes hot 16:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> so what you're trying to say is that yer mom is ugly? 16:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> that would certainly explain a lot 16:38 <@m0j0-j0j0> .. sorry... that was unkind 16:38 < ware> haha 16:39 < ware> my mom is superwoman 16:39 < ware> raising 6 boys 16:39 <@Dementia> nachoguy: good luck with that then. I'm still slogging it out at the same place. 16:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: I'm sure your mom is really hot and i would totally bone her if I was into old chicks 16:40 * Corydon76-dig is sure one of his brothers is hot 16:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: you think one of your brothers is hot 16:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> that's gross 16:41 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: even if my brother was hot, I wouldn't want to fuck him 16:41 <@nachoguy> Dementia, any good leads lately? 16:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: just messin with ya 16:41 <@Dementia> nachoguy: not really. One for a mysql dba that I'm not qualified for 16:42 <@nachoguy> I'm just keeping my head down. between the market being shit, and a promise from a boss I can trust that he'll "try really hard", I'm not looking for a while 16:42 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 16:42 <@nachoguy> it was way too depressing 16:42 <@Dementia> yeah, I was promised a raise at the new year, but then they put a salary freeze on 16:42 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you should let me know of where your mother and your brothers live. After all, how can I stay away if I don't know where they are? 16:42 <@Dementia> Which I think is BS because the company hasn't lost any business 16:43 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: you're awesome 16:43 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: isn't that how it works? 16:44 <@aestetix> Dementia: everyone is in a salary freeze and a hiring freeze right now. 16:45 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: abso-friggin-lutly.. if ware doesn't tell you.. you might end at the same hair salon as his mother without knowing, and hence filling her in on all the bad things he's done. 16:46 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm going to go smoke... 16:46 < ware> Dementia: i got the same speech about no ones getting raises 16:46 -!- m0j0-j0j0 was kicked from #se2600 by m0j0-j0j0 [m0j0-j0j0] 16:46 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@152.52.16.3] has joined #se2600 16:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 16:46 < ware> i told my boss i really deserved one and she gave me one 16:46 < ware> and said that i needed to get more 16:47 < ware> but she couldnt right now, so supposedly end of march is when we all get raises 16:47 < ware> and im supposed to be bumped up again 16:47 < ware> that raise was... like 10% 16:47 < ware> but i aint gettin paid shat 16:48 <@TheLightCosine> yer still getting more than me my friend 16:48 <@Corydon76-dig> At least you still have a job 16:48 <@TheLightCosine> yeah i jsut applied for a net admin job here in ansh tho maing up thalf again my current salary heh 16:49 <@Corydon76-dig> TLC: try that again, in English 16:49 <@Dementia> I got the company-wide 2% raise here in Dec 07, but haven't gotten anything after that. 16:49 <@TheLightCosine> Corydon76-dig: sorry feeding the baby at the same time 16:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah 16:49 <@Dementia> But, yes, I have a job and the paycheck clears, so I can't complain too much. I have several friends that have been laid off. 16:50 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: I need me one of those 16:50 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: Help a brother out? 16:50 <@aestetix> Dementia: I got laid off. 16:50 <@TheLightCosine> i applied for a net admin job here in nashvile making half again my current salary was what i tried to say 16:50 <@Dementia> aestetix: that sucks. 16:51 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: 50% raise would be sweet 16:51 <@TheLightCosine> yeah 16:51 <@TheLightCosine> well up to 50% icnrease anyways 16:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Then again, you need like a 300% raise 16:51 <@TheLightCosine> posting says $20-30/hr 16:51 <@TheLightCosine> i make $18 atm 16:52 <@aestetix> ouch 16:52 <@aestetix> TheLightCosine: does that include benefits? 16:52 <@TheLightCosine> yes i have full benefits, although they are surprisingly uninspiring 16:53 <@aestetix> Better than nothing. 16:53 <@TheLightCosine> indeed 16:53 <@TheLightCosine> i had awesome benefits when i worked as a contractor for VZW 16:53 <@aestetix> I believe at my former job I had the second worst health benefits in the state of new york 16:53 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-191-169.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 16:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 17:05 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 17:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 17:06 <+eryc> i compiled all these today: coreutils binutils m4 libiconv bison diffutils flex less bc grep sed tar gzip make gawk autoconf automake groff gperf sharutils bash patch rcs wget gettext texinfo a2ps zip unzip 17:06 <+eryc> pretty much all of gnu.org 17:07 * eryc gets a cookie 17:17 <@nachoguy> aestetix, any leads on a new gig? 17:19 <@TheLightCosine> eryc: typing apt-get install is nothing to be proud of ;) 17:20 <+eryc> heh 17:20 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [No route to host] 17:21 <+eryc> this is on solaris 17:22 <@TheLightCosine> oh heh 17:25 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 17:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 17:33 <@aestetix> nachoguy: yes 17:35 <@nachoguy> good luck man. Did the whole company go down, or did they cut a few people to stay afloat? my buddy got released about 2 weeks before the ship went down. 17:37 <+eryc> how bout that economy 17:40 <@aestetix> The latter. 17:40 <@aestetix> Which is good. I don't want to be the last sailor on a sinking ship. 17:42 -!- _vapor_ [n=Jared@c-69-137-117-103.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:51 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:52 <@Catonic> aestetix, not wanting to be a sailor, moves to san franscisco 17:55 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 17:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 17:57 <@aestetix> Catonic: I'm sure you could find plenty of boys here to play with. 17:57 <@Catonic> awesome. I'm buying my bus ticket now. What's the closest station? 18:04 -!- Drag0n` [n=dragon@12.116.138.30] has quit ["connection reset by shears!!!"] 18:07 -!- jb70d [n=itsME@adsl-065-080-187-241.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 18:23 -!- jb7od [n=itsME@adsl-065-080-187-241.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:23 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:24 <@aestetix> ok silly quesiton 18:24 <@aestetix> O(n^2) means there can only be two loops, right? 18:26 <@Corydon76-dig> nested and each runs over the entire list, yes. 18:26 <@aestetix> Ok. 18:28 <@Corydon76-dig> bubblesort is a great example of that 18:34 <@TheLightCosine> er wtf 18:34 <@TheLightCosine> this module for udp in perl doesn't have any method for putting a palyoad inside it 18:34 <@TheLightCosine> i am so confused 18:34 <@Corydon76-dig> which module? 18:35 <@TheLightCosine> Net::Packet::UDP 18:35 -!- dc0de1 [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:35 <@TheLightCosine> damnit all i'm trying to do is a build a udp dns request with a spoofed source ip, you'd think this wouldn't be so complciated 18:36 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-191-169.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:40 <@TheLightCosine> every documentation i can find is focused on ripping apart and reading packets instead of crafting them 18:41 -!- dc0de1 [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:42 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: try reading Net::Packet::Frame 18:43 <@Corydon76-dig> http://kobesearch.cpan.org/htdocs/Net-Packet/Net/Packet/Frame.html 18:43 -!- dc0de1 [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:44 -!- dc0de [i=dc0de@silenceisdefeat.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:44 -!- dc0de [i=dc0de@silenceisdefeat.com] has joined #se2600 18:44 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: though I much prefer using socket(), pack(), and send() myself 18:45 <@Corydon76-dig> May need a bind in there after socket, if you want to originate on port 53 18:45 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: are you trying to forge source addresses, though? 18:47 -!- dc0de [i=dc0de@silenceisdefeat.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:47 -!- dc0de1 is now known as dc0de 18:48 <@Corydon76-dig> because you'd need a raw socket, in that case 18:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 18:48 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has joined #se2600 18:49 -!- dc0de_ [i=dc0de@silenceisdefeat.com] has joined #se2600 18:50 -!- dc0de_ [i=dc0de@silenceisdefeat.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:50 < scoil> raw babby 18:52 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: check out Net::RawIP http://search.cpan.org/~saper/Net-RawIP-0.25/lib/Net/RawIP.pm 19:01 <@TheLightCosine> wow 19:01 <@TheLightCosine> never ever do business with dell financial services 19:01 <@TheLightCosine> the fucking cunt started telling me "no sir, this is what you owe" blah blah 19:01 <@TheLightCosine> when i told her not to yell at me she kept talking voer me 19:02 <@TheLightCosine> so when i said she had poor customer sevrice "this isn't customer service" 19:02 <@TheLightCosine> basdically "I don't have to be nice to you" 19:08 <@TheLightCosine> Corydon76-dig: that looks like exactly what i need 19:08 <@TheLightCosine> assuming dtaa is where i plug in the raw dns packet data 19:13 <@TheLightCosine> damnit cpan won't install that module correctly for some reason 19:20 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@152.52.16.3] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:22 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@152.52.16.3] has joined #se2600 19:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o M0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 19:24 <@TheLightCosine> grrr cpan shit the bed on me 19:24 <@TheLightCosine> thank god net::rawip is in synapti c 19:25 <@TheLightCosine> anyways it is way past my bedtime 19:25 <@TheLightCosine> smell ya later folks 19:25 -!- TheLightCosine [n=c0malod@c-98-211-40-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 19:55 -!- Falun [i=Richard@c-76-17-127-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:58 < JimShoe_> width: 9 11/16th Height: 7 11/16th Depth: 2 17/32 20:01 <@maco> measurements like that are why we should go metric 20:05 < JimShoe_> lol 20:05 < JimShoe_> and wrong window 20:06 -!- peaches1984 [i=mauve@c-68-52-33-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:12 -!- Peaches84 [i=green@c-68-52-33-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:14 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:19 -!- Peaches84 [i=purple@c-68-52-33-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Peaches84] by ChanServ 20:20 <+eryc> Dear Eric, 20:20 <+eryc> Your XM Satellite Radio subscription has expired and we are sorry to see you go. 20:20 <+eryc> i just paid you assholes! 20:21 <+eryc> XM has the worst systems 20:21 <+eryc> their website is complete shit 20:22 <+eryc> Sirius is way better with the internets 20:22 < ware> haha 20:24 -!- oddball [n=Oddball@169.130.126.50] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:24 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-137-80-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 20:24 -!- oddball_ [n=Oddball@169.130.126.50] has joined #se2600 20:25 <+eryc> if you make a change on XM's website, they lock you out for 15minutes so they can "update" your info 20:25 <+eryc> nolie 20:27 <+eryc> not to mention they deleted/locked my original account to where custsvc couldnt even find it 20:27 <+eryc> so i had to create one with a random new username 20:27 <+eryc> and they require 1 caps and 1 number in the password 20:28 <+eryc> and that account is totally seperate from the online streaming acct 20:28 <+eryc> and of course their support is in india 20:36 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-66-176-23.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:40 < AstralSin> i think my high school class is just catching on to facebook and finding everyone they can to friend up 20:40 < AstralSin> all these stupid mother fuckers i HATED in high school are friending me up 20:40 < AstralSin> i should delete this account 20:40 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-137-80-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:45 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-137-80-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 20:46 <@oddball> I no longer have ops? 20:46 <@oddball> oops... nevermind 20:56 <@sdodson> WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFff 20:57 < Falun> are those last two less vehement than the others? 20:58 <@sdodson> I'm going to have to look that word up. 21:18 < _vapor_> Heh... http://www.turnitupmedia.com <- free music for watching ads. You pick the ads. Mildly entertaining with some music to boot. 21:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> Falun: no, he was running out of air 21:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm headed home 21:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> be good folks 21:26 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@152.52.16.3] has quit ["he was smokin that wacky weed."] 21:30 < ware> Configure firewalls, small office networks, and asterisk systems for new offices. 21:30 < ware> lolol 21:30 < ware> its a straight linux position 21:30 < ware> no winders =/ 21:32 <@sdodson> winders is dead ware!Z 21:39 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 21:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 21:39 < ware> lolnowai 21:39 < ware> would be fun to get away from M$ for a little while tho 21:40 < ware> cause then doing MCSE would be fun cause its something different haha 21:56 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:59 -!- CRasH180 [n=what@c-69-245-26-225.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 21:59 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has joined #se2600 22:06 <@sasquatc4> http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1878358,00.html?cnn=yes 22:06 <@sasquatc4> that got sent to me by a new manager im working with, his email just had the link and below it said 'the answer is yes' 22:11 < Falun> maybe he's trying to trick you into thinkning he is really an idiot so you'll try to subvert his authority in order to do things correctly so that he can fire you for being counter productive? 22:11 <@CRasH180> that would never happen. ever. EVER. ummm, yeah 22:13 <@sasquatc4> naw, i believe it is in reference to the people in charge of the project that is horribly managed, and most of us engineers know it, him being a staff engineer he still does actual work 22:14 <@sasquatc4> the reason im working with him is because they are pulling off engineers from all over to work on it because its so horribly managed and rushed 22:14 < Falun> ohhh... so they're adding folks to speed it up? 22:14 < Falun> or just finding competent people to actually work on it? 22:15 <@sasquatc4> yea, they are trying everything, they already tried forcing us all to work 50hr weeks for a month thinking that would help, it obviously didnt cause that is fuckin stupid 22:15 <@sasquatc4> so now they are just throwing people at it 22:15 <@sasquatc4> and its a completely new codebase, so alot of us being thrown on it have to learn all this shit as we go, not exactly fast or easy 22:16 <@CRasH180> But, you should go, go, go. Or at least fake it. The only problem with faking it is that everyone else thinks you know what you are talking about 22:16 < Falun> that just means they'll internalize the failure when your suggested course of action didn't work 22:17 <@CRasH180> tis a conundrum 22:17 <@sasquatc4> Falun: yea they already did that once, a few months ago at an all team meeting, the group on this project was way behind, so someone asked, what can we do differently so we wont have to do this 50hr weeks in the future, where did we go wrong 22:18 <@sasquatc4> and of course the manager in charge says 'we didnt screw up, everything went as it should', so the obvious question on everyones mind, if it went exactly as planned, why are we working 50hr weeks and your ass not getting reamed by the higher ups 22:18 <@CRasH180> He's lying or "misrepresenting" the truth 22:19 < Falun> or just killing time while he's looking for another job? 22:19 <@CRasH180> lol 22:19 < Falun> it kind of sounds like squatting in your own house once you quit paying the mortgage -- sure, you'll get hauled off eventually but until that happens it's free rent! 22:20 <@CRasH180> yeah, better bank it while you can and then ask, "Can I use you as a reference?", to his old Boss. Suuuurrree 22:20 <@CRasH180> well, when being walked out the dorr 22:21 <@CRasH180> s/dorr/soor 22:23 <@sasquatc4> naw, dude is just a jackass, everyone knows it, and at least the people that dont work for him never do, i have heard many people say if they get put under him they would quit 22:24 <@sasquatc4> but he's in charge of alot of this overall project, so he's handing things out to other managers for their people to do 22:24 <@CRasH180> so, if you cross him, fired you will be? 22:25 <@CRasH180> I think that was Yoda speak 22:26 <@sasquatc4> ehh, not so sure, i think most of the other managers would understand if you do depending on how you crossed him 22:26 <@CRasH180> mental note: Document everything just in case 22:27 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 22:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 22:36 <@sasquatc4> yah, everything is kept anyway for legal reasons, all emails are, and all code changes are kept in our own bugtracking system 22:37 <@CRasH180> What I mean is your own copy, in case some of it "magically" disappears 22:37 <@sasquatc4> oh, yea, well they sorta dont let us do that, we have very limited email space, but thats another rant 22:38 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 22:38 <@CRasH180> solution: flash drive. No, then again, they are probably logging that too 22:39 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 22:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 22:40 < Falun> printer? 22:41 <@sasquatc4> yea you can print, i had a friend tho who tried doin a local backup, but he got overwhelmed and then IT made him stop 22:41 <@sasquatc4> its enough to keep most conversations tho, i prolly have a years worth of those, but anything big or with attachments usually has to go 23:03 -!- CRasH180 [n=what@c-69-245-26-225.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["sleepy time"] 23:10 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:22 -!- Falun [i=Richard@c-76-17-127-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:24 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:46 -!- sasquatc4 [i=sasquatc@c-76-25-86-246.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:57 -!- sasquatc4 [i=sasquatc@c-76-25-86-246.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ --- Log closed Thu Feb 12 00:00:41 2009