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00:17 <@Catonic> ..
00:19 < ware> no
00:22 < Mercster> :(
00:23 <@CRasH180> yes
00:23 < Mercster> you cant say for sure
00:24 <@CRasH180> ok, maybe :|
00:26 <@Catonic> HUYEAHAH!
00:26  * Catonic can play that funky music :->
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00:54 <@sdodson> quick, who can load http://matt-that.com/2009/02/08/look-whos-talking/ ?
00:56 < mgalgoci> this better not be a rickroll
00:57 < Mercster> this better be a rickroll...
00:58 <@sdodson> no, that fucker cerkit is blocking me, I guess because I left a comment he didn't agree with
00:58 < mgalgoci> no it's not loading
00:58 < mgalgoci> his shit is broked
00:58 < sync350> not loading for me either
00:59 <@sdodson> well there goes that theory
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00:59 < sync350> wait
00:59 < sync350> nvm
00:59 < sync350> It did load
00:59 < Mercster> ive got it loaded
01:00 < Mercster> oh man, haha, did you guys ban cerkit
01:00 < mgalgoci> sdodson: try it in elinks
01:00 < Mercster> he was a jackass, but damn, what does that mean for my future
01:00 < mgalgoci> Mercster: you're entertaining
01:01 <@sdodson> Mercster: You are now the weakest link!
01:01 <@sdodson> Unless ware gets drunk again.
01:01 < Mercster> yea, rite
01:01  * Mercster plies ware with mouthwash
01:01 < Mercster> minty
01:02 < Mercster> just pretend its peppermint schnapps
01:02 < sync350> so who's cerkit?
01:02 <@sdodson> Mercster: *!merc@zeniv.linux.org.uk is that you?
01:02 < Mercster> sdodson: it's one of me, yeah
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01:02 < Mercster> ?
01:02 < sync350> lol
01:02 <@sdodson> no sense in having bans in the list if you're clearly here
01:02 < Mercster> oh i think i came here once
01:03 < Mercster> when someone banned me
01:03 < Mercster> from zeniv
01:03 < Mercster> heh
01:03 < Mercster> I AM CLEARLY NOT ALL HERE
01:03 <@sdodson> i don't see that cerkit is banned, he just determined that since we didn't spend 100% of our time here solving the world's problems that we were below him and left
01:04 < Mercster> haha, right
01:04 <@sdodson> It's a motherfucking crisis and you shitbags are doing nothing, you make me weep for society!
01:04 < Mercster> the world is so unjust, how can we talk about boobs
01:04 < Mercster> eh
01:04 < Mercster> he's what, 13
01:04 < Mercster> 16
01:04 < mgalgoci> sounds like prumpf
01:04 < Mercster> he'll grow out of it
01:04 < mgalgoci> he might not
01:04  * mgalgoci points to prumpf
01:05 <@sdodson> "almost 30" if I remember that conversation properly
01:05 < Mercster> prumpf never talks on the channel anymore
01:05 < Mercster> so i have no fucking idea
01:05 < Mercster> sdodson: ohhh yeah, that was him
01:05 < Mercster> hahah
01:05 < Mercster> almost 30
01:05 <@sdodson> i'm almost 30, i'll probably not grow out of it
01:05 < mgalgoci> Mercster: he's a fucking voyer now
01:05 < Mercster> mgalgoci: does he comment on #notmerc?
01:05 < mgalgoci> nope
01:05 < Mercster> or is he pissed off there too
01:05 < mgalgoci> same shit you see
01:05  * Mercster shrugs
01:05 < mgalgoci> nobody will talk to him
01:05 < Mercster> funny
01:06 < mgalgoci> and he's got nothing to say
01:06 < Mercster> yeah, well
01:06 < Mercster> that's spreading
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01:06 < Mercster> mgalgoci: i seem to remember some stories about him being vile in person too or something
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01:06 < Mercster> but maybe that was someone else
01:06 < Mercster> we know a lot of vile people
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01:07 < mgalgoci> he was
01:07 < mgalgoci> I met him once
01:07 < mgalgoci> at anna's
01:07 < Mercster> like, never showered, slept on your couch and was generally an asshole
01:07 < mgalgoci> he creeped her up too
01:07 < Mercster> heh
01:07 < mgalgoci> s/up/out/
01:07 < Mercster> well, irc nerds cant all be winners
01:07 <@sdodson> Yes We Can! (tm)
01:07 < Mercster> there's a bad apple in every bunch!
01:07 < Mercster> i mean, there's a bad bunch for every apple
01:07 < Mercster> something
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01:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> hey O!
01:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> guess everyone is in bed already
01:20 < Mercster> hi
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01:22 < mgalgoci> ohai
01:23 < Mercster> cut it out
01:23 <@dasunt> I'm not.
01:32 <@m0j0-j0j0> ugg
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01:48 <@m0j0-j0j0> night
01:50 < Mercster> yea good talkin to ya
01:50 < mgalgoci> jeebusroxors must be from hallalabama
01:51 < jeebusroxors> sc
01:51 < jeebusroxors> carolina con sweet!
01:52 < jeebusroxors> there aren't any meetings in columbia are there?
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04:25 <@TheLightCosine> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20090208 <- lol
04:57 <@TheLightCosine> hehe, kaspersky got pwned
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08:11 <@sdodson> TheLightCosine: care to elaborate?
08:13 < mgalgoci> sdodson: http://securityandthe.net/2009/02/08/kaspersky-database-exposed/
08:16 <@sdodson> It's too early to be up matt.
08:16 < mgalgoci> too late
08:18 <@TheLightCosine> er yeah
08:19 <@TheLightCosine> they got hit with sql injection for like the 4th or 5th time this year
08:19 <@TheLightCosine> pretty unofrgiveable for one of the world's leading security firms =P
08:31 <@brimstone> since 01/01/2009? the 4th or 5th?
08:31 <@brimstone> that's like one a week
08:31 <@TheLightCosine> yeah i realise that, i meant in the past eyar
08:31 <@TheLightCosine> *year
08:32 <@TheLightCosine> heh if it was the 4th 'this year' someone would be out of a job lol
08:32 <@TheLightCosine> as it is somebody probably should be anyways
08:39 <@brimstone> you'd think they could audit themselves or something
08:39 <@brimstone> get spi's site fuzzer or something
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09:02 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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10:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> another work week begins
10:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> lovin the tropic
10:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> I figure I'll make CarolinaCon
10:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm not too sure about outerz0ne
10:12 <@Dolemite> well it's a bit late to be announcing a con and doing a call for papers, but that's just my opininon
10:12 <@Dolemite> er, opinion
10:26 < ware> vent Description:
10:26 < ware> Digital Nashville, in partnership with the Nashville Technology Council, presents , "Analytics: The Nuts and Bolts of Web Optimization". Speaker Michael Summar (Founder and Principal Strategist at The Analytics Group) will speak about the principles of analytics, tools of the trade and give direction on how to get started.
10:26 < ware> This class is FREE, but limited to the first 150 people to RSVP.
10:27 < ware> dont think im going to OZ this year
10:27 < ware> but i am going to... Clouterz0ne!
10:27 < ware> first annual con for hackers with clout
10:30 <@Dolemite> so an empty con?
10:31 <@brimstone> i dun like empty cons
10:34 <@rhia> CC had a date before OZ did this year, so, not _quite_ so late
10:36 <@rhia> tho the list announcement is a bit laggy
10:37 <@Dolemite> well, yeah, CarolinaCon has been settled for quite a while
10:37 <@Dolemite> OZ announcement didn't come until mid last week
10:38 <@rhia> noticed that
10:38 <@rhia> and a week off from CC
10:40 <@TheLightCosine> alkl the nashvillians seem to be going to OZ
10:40 <@TheLightCosine> but CC has a really awesome list of rpesnetations
10:40 <@TheLightCosine> i am so torn
10:41 <@Dolemite> s/alkl/some of/
10:41 <@rhia> Dolemite: maybe he meant the alkies of nashville <g>
10:41 <@TheLightCosine> oh piss off =P
10:42  * rhia hugs TheLightCosine 
10:42 <@TheLightCosine> heh
10:42 <@Dolemite> ok, time for meeting
10:43 <@TheLightCosine> time to go back to playing pokemon =P
10:44 < ware> pokemons!?
10:44 < ware> what platform / version of pokemungs? (my grandpa used to call em "Pokey-mungs"
10:45 <@TheLightCosine> heh i'm playing pokemon red on visualboyadvance
10:45 <@TheLightCosine> a gameboy/gbc/gba emulator in linux
10:47 < ware> nice, me and my bro played that
10:47 < ware> i still got my old pokemon card "haymaker" deck
10:47 < ware> used to goto game shops and pwn little kids with it =/
10:48 <@TheLightCosine> lol
10:48 <@TheLightCosine> pokemon CCG, the tee-ball version of magic cards =P
10:51 < ware> true
10:51 < ware> i wish i got into magic
10:51 < ware> but i never knew anyone that played
10:52 <@TheLightCosine> i quit for the last time only about 9 months ago heh
10:52 <@TheLightCosine> i quit after that last philadelphia grand prix
10:53 <@TheLightCosine> i went to that grand prix and 3 pro tour quals, and couldn't hack it
10:53 < ware> theres so many sets tho its ridiculous
10:53 <@oddball> I quit Magic years ago.  It got to the point where it was just blatantly "those with the most disposable income wins."
10:53 <@TheLightCosine> that's whe n i realsied "the only way to be a pro at this is to have nothing else in your life"
10:53 < ware> is there a decent computer mtg game?
10:53 < ware> haha
10:53 <@TheLightCosine> oddball: exactly
10:54 <@TheLightCosine> you have to be wealtyhy or live in your mom's basement
10:54 <@TheLightCosine> if i still lvied in pa i'd still play with my friends
10:54 <@oddball> I used to be damn good at making ankle biter decks.  It's fun to beat someones uber-rare deck with a deck full of commons.
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10:58 <@TheLightCosine> hrm, playing pokemon is making me have a hankering for bahamet lafgoon
10:58 <@TheLightCosine> i wonder if i still have that translated rom somewhere
10:59 <@TheLightCosine> that was seriously one of the msot fun tactical rpgs ever
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11:17 < ware> so whos got a copy of bt4 from shmoo
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11:17 < ware> and why havent you shared yet
11:17 <@TheLightCosine> and does it totally pwn?
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11:17 < ware> doesnt do anything in the hands of a noob
11:18 <@TheLightCosine> well then you won't want it, ware =P
11:18 < ware> 'lololololol!'
11:18 <@TheLightCosine> i swear it feels like vaudeville in here sometimes
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11:26 <@TheLightCosine> hrmmm
11:28 <@TheLightCosine> well shit, i have no idea how to step through a function being executed by muitple threads lol
11:28 <@TheLightCosine> it is jumpnig from thread to thread lol
11:31 < ware> http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnline.aspx?x=magic/moliii2/download
11:32 <@TheLightCosine> yeah amgic online, another way for wizards to siphon money from your wallet
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11:43 < ware> looks like its free
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11:45 <@TheLightCosine> it's not
11:45 <@TheLightCosine> you have to buy virtual cards
11:46 < ware> even booster packs?
11:47 < ware> it doesnt like start you with a pool to try i tout
11:47 < ware> it out*
11:47 <@Catonic> fuck you im an anteater!
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11:49 < ware> http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~dking/photos/Pugilist%20Anteater--Monteverde%201-94.jpg
11:49 < ware> :(
11:57 < ware> underwear -> http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2159/159/56/596970923/n596970923_1505439_622.jpg
11:57 < ware> but hot
11:57 < ware> roomies friend
11:59 <@TheLightCosine> SFW?
11:59 < GodFix[HC]> wow ware, who was that?
12:00 < ware> TheLightCosine: its sfw but its underwears
12:00 < ware> GodFix[HC]: one of my roomies friends apparently
12:03 < GodFix[HC]> a roomie in CO or TN?
12:04 < ware> TN
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12:18  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
12:18 < eryc> xkcd is funneeee
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12:32 <@aestetix> bah
12:32 <@aestetix> what's an easy way to see what is using a device?
12:33 <@aestetix> I just ran cat /dev/dsp and there's obviously something clogging up my sound card
12:33 < eryc> lsof/fuser
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12:35 <@maco> fuser -v /dev/dsp
12:35 <@maco> i think
12:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> lolunderware
12:36 <@aestetix> thanks
12:40 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
12:40 <@aestetix> So.... question for the channel.
12:40 <@aestetix> I'm trying to figure out what I think of this $500k cap on wall street salaries.
12:41 <@aestetix> On one hand, I like it a lot, because we need money elsewhere.
12:41 <@maco> its only for the ones being bailed out
12:41 <@aestetix> On the other hand, I don't think the government should interfere to that level, and we should really be sending people to jail instead of just giving them salary cuts.
12:41 <@maco> so they dont go "oh look, we got 5 billion dollars for the bailout. lets split that 70/30. i get the 70, the company gets the 30"
12:42 <@aestetix> I'm thinking, the only people that should have their salaries regulated are those who already get paid via the government.
12:42 <@maco> once the gov puts money into the company, id say its only partially privately-owned at that point
12:42 <@maco> or privately-run
12:42 <@aestetix> For a nation which considers itself to run on a free market, it seems odd that the government can regulate how much money anyone makes.
12:42 <@aestetix> maco: this is true.
12:43 <@maco> its a sort of half-public/half-private affair
12:43 <@aestetix> But I also opposed the bailout in the first place.
12:43 <@maco> of course
12:43 <@maco> think of it like the gov is a shareholder in the company, and them being able to order around the CEO makes more sense
12:43 <@maco> a *big* shareholder :P
12:43 <@aestetix> Yeah, I know.
12:44 <@aestetix> But that goes against everything a free market economy stands for. At least, the way I understand it.
12:44 <@aestetix> So my question: Obama inherited this mess, why is he choosing to make it worse?
12:46 <@maco> cant think of anything else to do that wont piss off the blue collar workers
12:47 <@aestetix> Sounds like Obama is getting more than he bargained for.
12:47 <@Corydon76-lap> You think he's making it worse?  How?
12:47 <@maco> Corydon76-lap: the red scare ;)
12:47 <@Corydon76-lap> Just because he doesn't buy into the free market bullshit?
12:48 <@aestetix> Corydon76-lap: I'm looking at it from the free market viewpoint.
12:48 <@rhia> the unregulated free market behind this mess?
12:48 <@nachoguy> commies?
12:48 <@Corydon76-lap> According to the true believers, we've never had a truly free market
12:49 <@Corydon76-lap> According to them, that means we need to go more free.  The other side of that coin is that it's a radical, untested theory
12:49 <@rhia> not really, unmitigated greed has a pretty decent historical background
12:49 <@aestetix> There's a limit to how free you can get, on the other hand, setting salary caps seems really intrusive.
12:49 <@Corydon76-lap> and would you really want to test the economy on a radical, untested theory?
12:50 <@rhia> aestetix: the caps are for those taking taxpayer money
12:50 <@TheLightCosine> personally i'd rather live in a state like Denmark
12:50 <@aestetix> Ah, ok. So the CNN articles were misleading.
12:50 <@Corydon76-lap> aestetix: if you take my money, you work under my rules.
12:50 <@rhia> TheLightCosine: i'll take Sweden, but yeah
12:50 <@TheLightCosine> where veryone is pretty much equal economically, education and helath care are all paid for
12:50 <@aestetix> In that case, it makes perfect sense.
12:51 <@TheLightCosine> problem is those models don't work as is in as alrge of a country as ours
12:51 <@Corydon76-lap> aestetix: that's true for management hiring workers, so it should make sense for the govt bailing out management
12:51 <@TheLightCosine> i'd gladly pay the 50% taxes thoguh in exchange for knowing my kids could go to college gauranteed and if they ever get sick their care is provided at no cost
12:52 <@aestetix> TheLightCosine: there was an excellent New Yorker article a few weeks ago about that. Demonstrating that every european health care system effectively was created on existing infrastructure, and was made to fit an existing need.
12:52 <@aestetix> And then pointed out how fucked up the US health care system is.
12:53 <@Corydon76-lap> The largest objections to that come from people who either a) have no kids, or b) have enough money that they don't need govt to pay
12:53 <@maco> if they have enough money, theyll still have plenty of money even after the 50% they pay :P
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12:53 <@TheLightCosine> Corydon76-lap: exactly
12:53 <@Corydon76-lap> maco: they view it as their own money
12:54 <@aestetix> If the salary cap doesn't affect anyone who did not get money from the bailout, I withdraw any further objection to it.
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12:54 <@aestetix> Now, as far as objections to the bailout itself.... that's another story :)
12:54 <@TheLightCosine> well it's time to gio home
12:54 <@Corydon76-lap> They typically also have the attitude that their property is inalienably theirs
12:54 <@maco> Corydon76-lap: yeah i know. though my step-dad *did* vote obama in spite of making > $300k/yr (a fact that shocked me when he said he'd be affected by the tax policy)
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12:55 <@Corydon76-lap> which ignores the fact that the only thing that makes property theirs is the govt itself
12:55 <@aestetix> Corydon76-lap: federal or state government, though?
12:55 <@Corydon76-lap> aestetix: federal, ultimately
12:56 <@maco> without gov, who's going to say "yes, that really is his, thus you stole it, now give it back and go to jail"?
12:56 <@aestetix> I guess that is where imminent domain ultimately plays a role.
12:56 <@maco> i assume thats what you mean by "the gov makes it theirs"?
12:56 <@Corydon76-lap> although it is really just an entry in a logbook at the county courthouse
12:56 <@Corydon76-lap> maco: what makes a piece of property belong to you is a public record in a courthouse.  That's ultimately it.
12:57 <@maco> and if there's no public record of, say, my laptop...?
12:57 <@aestetix> Corydon76-lap: I'd contest that it's the people's willingness to accept what is written in that public record...
12:57 <@Corydon76-lap> maco: a laptop is not considered real property
12:58 <@maco> oh you mean houses
12:58 <@Corydon76-lap> Land
12:58 <@maco> same difference
12:59 <@aestetix> Hmm. What is the difference, there?
12:59 <@Corydon76-lap> aestetix: whether the people are willing or not, it's the govt's ability to enforce those boundaries that make your property yours
12:59 <@aestetix> Corydon76-lap: right, that's what I meant.
13:00 <@aestetix> If people of a government do not listen to the law, then there is no way to enforce anything.
13:00 <@timoguin> I just discovered that I can access the roaming profiles of every student at my school.
13:00 <@timoguin> With read/write perms.
13:00 <@Corydon76-lap> timoguin: you just violated the number one rule about discovering security issues
13:00  * aestetix recalls something about Andrew Jackson and ignoring the Supreme Court...
13:00 <@timoguin> Corydon76-lap: yea, talking about it
13:00 <@timoguin> I'm gonna go tell Brett in a bit.
13:01 <@timoguin> the network admin.
13:01 <@aestetix> Reminds me of a friend a few weeks ago who figured out a way to access full billing records of everyone at his electric company.
13:02 <@timoguin> That sounds juicy.
13:02 <@Corydon76-lap> aestetix: So he changed the billing address of each of his enemies to a non-existent address?
13:02 <@timoguin> "This tree hugging politician is a fraud!  You wouldn't believe how much electricity he used last month!"
13:03 <@Corydon76-lap> timoguin: I was thinking more along the lines of getting their service disconnected due to nonpayment and getting an associated entry on their credit report
13:04 <@timoguin> Corydon76-lap: Yea, I understood your comment.
13:04 <@Corydon76-lap> Few things disturb people's lives as effectively as a notation on their credit
13:04 <@timoguin> He said he could view their billing statements, not edit customer details.
13:04 <@timoguin> That'd be quite a bit more serious.
13:05 <@Corydon76-lap> The word he used was 'access', which is ambiguous
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13:05 <@timoguin> Corydon76-lap: True.
13:06 <@timoguin> I just interepreted that as meaning he discovered a way to view records.
13:06 <@timoguin> aestetix: specifyplz
13:07 <@aestetix> Corydon76-lap: only read access.
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13:28 < ware> GodFix[HC]: http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v510/159/56/596970923/n596970923_1220952_6636.jpg
13:28 < ware> http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v224/1671/85/n596970923_648.jpg
13:28 < ware> http://photos-a.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v378/159/56/596970923/n596970923_1164136_9730.jpg
13:28 < ware> http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v339/159/56/596970923/n596970923_936078_3251.jpg
13:30 <@Dolemite> ware : What's her name?  I've got some uncategorized pr0n scenes that I'd been wondering who the girl was...
13:31 < ware> her name is 'hot geek chick that <3s geeks' -> http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2159/159/56/596970923/n596970923_1505439_622.jpg
13:31 < ware> works for Geek Squad apparently
13:31 <@Dolemite> heh
13:31 <@Dolemite> Geek Squad == ! Geek
13:31 <@timoguin> hahaha she works for geek squad
13:31 < ware> either or, she is hot
13:32 <@timoguin> "Hey, baby, I work for the Geek Squad. . ."
13:33 < ware> at that point i wouldnt be listening to her
13:33 < ware> i would be still eyeing her up and down
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13:57 <@Dagmar> Wow.
13:58 <@Dagmar> Someone's contracted a technician who flew in to fix something, but woulnd't bring his own tools
13:58 <@Dagmar> Crazy
13:59 < ware> flying
13:59 < ware> *
14:01 <@Dagmar> ware: Has there been some change and to the TSA now freak out and suspend a flight and lockdown the airport because they found a pair of screwdrivers and a needlenose pliers in someone's checked baggage?
14:02 <@Dagmar> That just seems really unprofessional to me
14:04 < ware> i agree
14:04 < ware> i would rather not fly with a complete toolkit tho
14:09 < eryc> http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/Cracking-budget-encryption--/features/112548/3
14:10 < eryc> er, shoulda linked to 1st page
14:10 < eryc> s/3/0
14:10 <@Dagmar> ware: Well, we've had to loan the guy a couple of screwdrivers, a pliers, and a flashlight.  If that's all he needed he could have just thrown that in with his toothbrush
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14:14 < ware> GodFix[HC]: http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2159/159/56/596970923/n596970923_1505444_2042.jpg Dolemite
14:17 <@TheLightCosine> ah home sweet home
14:19 <@tzanger> I don't know about that ass
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14:58 < eryc> Congratulations to [artist name] for winning Album of the Year.
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15:08 < Curbob> anyone know if outerz0ne will have speakers on Friday or just Saturday? have some NC people heading this way and wanted to know
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16:07 <@TheLightCosine> hrm do you have to escape a : in regex?
16:07 <@Dolemite> same way you escape everything else...  with a leading \
16:07 <@Dolemite> oh, wait, you were asking if you had to
16:07 <@Dolemite> sorry
16:08 <@Dolemite> not how to
16:08 <@TheLightCosine> yeah =P
16:08 <@TheLightCosine> i can't remmeber if a colon needs to be escaped
16:10 <@TheLightCosine> guess i'll find out
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16:12 <@Catonic> http://www.spoc.tv/tv-sketches/niggerette-video.aspx
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16:12 < Mercster> i read that as  <@TheLightCosine> i can't remmeber if a colon needs to be scraped
16:14 < Curbob> ewww
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16:17 < eryc> i dont think : is part of regex
16:18 <@Dolemite> yeah, but this is probably .NET regex, so who knows...
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16:21 <@Catonic> http://technology.todaysbigthing.com/2009/02/06
16:21 <@TheLightCosine> Dolemite: nope good ol fashioned perl
16:21 <@TheLightCosine> this is a totaly me project, not for work
16:21 <@TheLightCosine> and no : is safe
16:23 <@Dolemite> funny, Corydon says the same thing
16:23 <@TheLightCosine> oh come on, I used the symbol that time instead of saying colon
16:23 <@Dolemite> yes, but you forgot the comma, which would have changed the context
16:25 <@TheLightCosine> lol
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16:30 <@TheLightCosine> ah there we go now i have it behaving the way i want
16:31 <@TheLightCosine> now to sit back and let it query these 40186 domains
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16:36 < Mercster> im all phlegmy
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16:52 <@TheLightCosine> you and everyone else merc
16:53 < Mercster> heh
16:53 < Mercster> mine isnt caused by weather tho ;-)
16:53 < Mercster> smokin too much and partyin' too hard
16:53 < Mercster> but i can imagine, plenty of ppl are fucked up
16:53 < Mercster> 40 degree difference in like, 2-3 days
16:54 < Mercster> thats gonna be havoc
16:54 <@TheLightCosine> yeah
16:54 <@TheLightCosine> and personally i just quit smoking so my lungs are voiding
16:54 < Mercster> i actually had to turn the AC on for a few minutes
16:54 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: ahh yeah that happens. good for you.
16:58 <@TheLightCosine> the first 3-4 weeks are always terrible
16:58 < Mercster> yup
16:58 < Mercster> your chest feels tight kinda
16:58 < Mercster> opposite of "ahhh i dont smoke anymore"
16:58 < Mercster> ive tried quitting a few times...made it 2 months once
16:59 <@TheLightCosine> i made it about 3 last time heh
17:00 < Mercster> good luck
17:00 < Mercster> one day at a time
17:00 < Mercster> stress is the worst for me; if i get upset im like "FUCKIT I NEED A SMOKE" and ruin it
17:00 < Mercster> but ya gotta try to just make it one day at a time
17:00 < Mercster> at first anyway
17:00 <@TheLightCosine> yeah
17:01 <@TheLightCosine> the worst part for me is working on a project, cus if i get stuck i like to go smoke and think on it
17:02 < Mercster> yeah
17:02 < Mercster> its a soothing activity
17:02 < Mercster> or, pretends to be
17:03 < Mercster> nicotine replacement therapy seems to help a lot, might wanna look into the gum or even the little device that takes nicotine inserts
17:26 <@TheLightCosine> damn this is going slower than expected
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17:45 < Mercster> http://www.aprilwinchell.com/media/audio/OBAMA_IGNORANT.mp3
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17:52 <@rhia> Mercster: why not link to the full bit?
17:52 <@rhia> http://www.aprilwinchell.com/wp-content/cache/supercache/www.aprilwinchell.com/2009/02/05/barack-obama-is-tired-of-your-motherfucking-shit//index.html
17:52 < Mercster> cuz i didnt have the link to the full bit
17:53 <@rhia> that would explain it <g>
17:53 < Mercster> obama has gone from the Christ to "angriest president ever" in 1 month
17:54 <@rhia> check the full article
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17:56 < Mercster> i was scrolling through some news a couple days ago, and it occured to me that every single photo of obama from the past couple weeks is like "you MUTHAfucka..."
17:57 < Mercster> obama speaks to the nation 8pm EST
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18:11 <@TheLightCosine> god, it;s been almost 2 hours and it's only processed a little over 5000 domains so far, ugg this isn't going to be done any time soon
18:16 <@Dagmar> ~tinyurl
18:20 <@Dagmar> Oh shit that's awesome audio
18:22 <@nachoguy> TLC, what are you doing?
18:24 <@TheLightCosine> nachoguy: pulling the TXT RR sizes for every domain on a blacklist
18:24 <@TheLightCosine> looking for the largest one i can possibly find
18:24 <@brimstone> err, what?
18:25 <@Dagmar> looking for some that might be hiding malware uuencoded or botnet instructions?
18:26 <@TheLightCosine> no, nothing so clever dag
18:26 <@TheLightCosine> i just need to find a really large TXT RR
18:26 <@TheLightCosine> dun matter what's in it
18:26 <@TheLightCosine> the byte count is all i care about
18:26 <@nachoguy> Dagmar, good idea
18:26 <@TheLightCosine> yeah it is a good idea heh
18:27 <@TheLightCosine> i figured the best place to start looking for really funky DNS shit would be on blacklist domains
18:27 <@brimstone> TheLightCosine: why a large TXT record?
18:27 <@Dagmar> You'd probably be right
18:27 <@Dagmar> brimstone: because they can be cached, and are generally ignored
18:27 <@TheLightCosine> cus it's the only RR that can be of signifigant size
18:28 <@TheLightCosine> and what dag said
18:28 <@Dagmar> You can fucking embed video in them if you want
18:28 <@brimstone> just trying to figure out how big you can get away with?
18:28 <@TheLightCosine> nope
18:28 <@Dagmar> Like, if you wanted to stream shit all over the planet, you could do it with one or two DNS servers you control and a fuckload of TXT records
18:28 <@brimstone> i've seen the txt streaming video hacks and whatnot
18:28 <@Dagmar> ...or you could just perform a resource consumption attack on someone's DNS server
18:29 <@TheLightCosine> or a very low cost reflection attack
18:29 <@brimstone> you could also set a f'n high ttl and hide files out on dns server
18:29 <@brimstone> s
18:29 <@nachoguy> Dan Kaminsky did it a number of years ago
18:29 <@TheLightCosine> figures
18:30 <@TheLightCosine> what i need to find is one of 4000bytes or more
18:33 <@TheLightCosine> i'm basically going to attempt my own poc of DNS Amplification
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18:44 < NotLarry_> ok, whats wrong with this picture (SFW) - http://tinyurl.com/bfrcjx
18:45 <@Corydon76-lap> Same thing wrong with this one:  (also SFW) http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/970258910.html
18:46 <@Dagmar> What picture?
18:47 <@rhia> the zoom in on a MLK Blvd - the shadow line down the image ~shrug~
18:47 <@Corydon76-lap> rhia: no, what the road turns into
18:48 <@rhia> ahhh, stull, shrug
18:48 <@Dagmar> Ah
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18:51 < NotLarry_> I actually like your post Corydon76-lap
18:51 < NotLarry_> What the road WAS before that section was renamed MLKJ blvd.
18:51 < Mercster> oh crap
18:51 < Mercster> damn 'state of the state' preempting PBS newshour
18:52 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: yeah, but the people he's writing to won't get it
18:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> headed to the gym
18:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> be nice to one another
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18:59 < NotLarry_> what is that ink____ graphics program?
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19:00 < NotLarry_> nvm
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19:14 < Mercster> shut up bredesen
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19:18 <@mgalgoci> hello
19:18 < Mercster> no
19:18 <@mgalgoci> hi asshole
19:18  * Mercster hugs mgalgoci 
19:19 <@mgalgoci> I sure am glad I don't have a car payment
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19:23 <@aestetix> I just don't have a car.
19:23 <@mgalgoci> must be nice
19:23 < Mercster> must be my nuts
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19:30 <@sdodson> I have a car payment :(
19:30 <@sdodson> And I need to get a paint chip fixed before my hood rusts away.
19:30 <@mgalgoci> how big?
19:31 <@sdodson> About the size of a grain of rice.
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19:31 <@mgalgoci> you can neuralize it and seal it
19:31 <@sdodson> but it's already turning red
19:31 <@sdodson> how?
19:31 < Mercster> shamwow
19:31 <@sdodson> fucking germans
19:31 <@mgalgoci> get vial of touchup pain from your car dealer matched to your car
19:31 < Mercster> you know they make good stuff
19:31 <@mgalgoci> you can use barium sulphate to neutralize the rust
19:32 <@mgalgoci> barrium
19:32 <@sdodson> ya, so i should have done that a year ago when it happened, now i'm sure if I want to keep my hood in decent shape I need to have it properly fixed up
19:32 <@mgalgoci> k
19:33 <@sdodson> Actually, I tried but the dealer was completely worthless.
19:33 <@sdodson> "We're out." "Can I order it and you can mail it to me?" "No, you need to come back here so we can make sure it's the right color."
19:34 <@sdodson> WTF you're the dealer, you have my vin, you should know exactly what color it is
19:34 <@mgalgoci> all they need is you vin
19:34 <@mgalgoci> you were speaking to a moron
19:34 <@sdodson> Tefetta White you fool! gimme that shit and don't make me drive to chapel hill.
19:36 < Mercster> morons are ppl too
19:36 <@mgalgoci> not really
19:36 <@mgalgoci> they just consume oxygen
19:36 < Mercster> morons share 99% of the genes with humans
19:36 < Mercster> come on
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19:37 <@mgalgoci> and human dna is 99% identical to chimpanzee dna
19:37 <@mgalgoci> what's your point?
19:37 < Mercster> chimpanzee are ppl
19:38 <@mgalgoci> don't make me call your pastor
19:38 <@mgalgoci> beyotch
19:38 < Mercster> he'd kick your ass
19:38 <@sdodson> OH GOTCHA BITCH
19:38 < Mercster> sdodson: oh captcha bitch
19:39 <@mgalgoci> man
19:40 <@mgalgoci> my kitten shure makes stinky shits
19:40 < Mercster> beatings will continue until morale improves
19:40 < Mercster> tell your kitty that
19:40 <@sdodson> Stop feeding it and it'll improve over time.
19:41 < Mercster> farted
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19:45 < Mercster> obama is about to yell at you
19:45 < Mercster> tune in
19:46 <@mgalgoci> obama just wants to take my guns
19:47 <@sdodson> Mercster: where?
19:47 < Mercster> major networks
19:47 < Mercster> news channels
19:47 < Mercster> i guess
19:48 < Mercster> PBS prolly
19:48 <@mgalgoci> probably everywhere
19:48 < eryc> THIS SHIT IS GETTIN WAY TOO COMPLICATED FOR ME
19:48 < Mercster> everywhere except A&E
19:48 < eryc> THERES WHITE FOLKS, THEN THERES IGNORANT MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE YOU!
19:48 < Mercster> which will feature your favorite gay-themed reality show instead
19:48 < Mercster> eryc: heh
19:49 <@sdodson> I need to figure out how to force firefox to garbage collect.
19:50 < eryc> theres a setting to free on minimize
19:50 < eryc> works pretty well
19:51 <@sdodson> My ram is lagging!
19:51 <@sdodson> hooray, down to 1.1G
19:52 < Mercster> 30 SECONDS TO BLACK RAGE
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19:52 <@sdodson> Scared Corydon76-dig off
19:53 < Mercster> that's democracy in action
19:53 < eryc> http://www.associatedcontent.com/video/29513/minimize_ram_use_of_mozilla_firefox.html
19:53 < eryc> that douche will show you how
19:54 <@sdodson> eryc: I say these things in IRC because my cat looks at me funny when I talk to myself outloud. Thanks for the help though.
19:55 < eryc> no you need to watch the video
19:55 < Mercster> no you need to shut the fuck up
19:55 < Mercster> right now
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19:55 < Mercster> obama's purple lips are addressing you
19:55 <@sdodson> Mercster: chill fucker
19:55 < Mercster> YOU CHILL "MAAAAAAAAN"
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19:56 < Mercster> green energy
19:57 < Mercster> weird
19:57 < Mercster> heh
19:57 < Mercster> most addresses are into the camera
19:57 < Mercster> obama isnt doing that
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19:58 < Mercster> i bet at the end he focuses his gaze into the camera and threatends to pimp-smack america
19:58 < Mercster> if they dont come correct
19:59 < Mercster> dont come half-steppin wit yo weapon on safety, nigga
20:01 <@mgalgoci> jeeeeeeeeeeeebusroxors!!!
20:04 < Mercster> shhh
20:04 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah, um for future reference, if someone on a 250lb scooter rolls back into your front bomper, you were probably too fucking close.
20:05 <@Dagmar> ...and trying to make a big deal out of it and making threats is *not* the correct course of action.
20:05 < Mercster> did you beat their ass
20:05 <@Dagmar> If my feet never leave the ground during this rolling back, yer definitely too fuckin' close
20:07 < Mercster> BOMB IRAN
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20:09 < Mercster> obama drinking game
20:09 < Mercster> drink everytime he says 'uh'
20:10 < Mercster> warning: you may die
20:12 < jeebusroxors> CHANGE!
20:12 < Mercster> HOPE!
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20:12 < jeebusroxors> sorry...obamaflex...
20:12 <@mgalgoci> CHANGE MY HOPE
20:17 < Mercster> nurses cant read
20:18 <@mgalgoci> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090209/en_afp/usitinternettwitterindiatibetdalai_20090209155439
20:18 <@mgalgoci> the dali lama is gay
20:19 < Mercster> actually the dali lama has proclaimed that homosexuality is harmful
20:19 <@mgalgoci> but he's on twitter
20:19 < Mercster> uh
20:20 <@mgalgoci> Mercster: I have fresh eggs
20:21 < Mercster> delicious
20:21 <@mgalgoci> ya
20:21 <@mgalgoci> I'm gonna hard boil some for lunch tomorrow
20:21 <@mgalgoci> my co-worker keeps chickens
20:25 < Mercster> banks
20:25 < Mercster> uh
20:25 <@mgalgoci> oversight
20:26 <@sdodson> mgalgoci: who's that?
20:26 <@mgalgoci> sdodson: eric
20:26 <@mgalgoci> you met him today
20:26 <@mgalgoci> I totally want to get some chickens now
20:26 <@mgalgoci> to eat the ants
20:26 <@mgalgoci> fire ants
20:27 <@sdodson> I just soaked my cat.
20:27 < eryc> i dont have chickens
20:27 < Mercster> sdodson: hot
20:27 <@sdodson> Every time I find that asshole in my sink he's getting a bath.
20:27 <@mgalgoci> eryc: not you jackass
20:27 < eryc> ur pussy is wet
20:28 <@mgalgoci> eryc: you don't spell your name eric
20:28 < eryc> in my whois
20:28 < eryc> some other jackass owns eric
20:28 < eryc> maybe he has chickens
20:29 <@mgalgoci> you're really dumb
20:29 <@sdodson> uh oh my website is not SEO!
20:30 < eryc> i asked he said he has 2 chickens
20:30 <@mgalgoci> you've got something stuck in your teeth
20:32 <@aestetix> My website is SDO
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20:34 < Mercster> uh
20:34 < jeebusroxors> i spoke to the dali lama once...you know what he told me?
20:34 < jeebusroxors> gunga....galunga....
20:34 < Mercster> jeebusroxors: ya breaf stank nigga
20:35 < Mercster> jeebusroxors: oh, cool
20:35 < jeebusroxors> yea, so i got that goin for me
20:35 < Mercster> heh
20:35 < jeebusroxors> and i think its 'yo'
20:35 <@mgalgoci> jeebusroxors: I would have offered him a ham sammich
20:35 <@mgalgoci> with cheese
20:35 < jeebusroxors> and then just as hes about to eat it, knock it out of his hands and stomp on it
20:35 <@sdodson> Did bush have a prepared list of people to call on for questions or is this something new with Obama?
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20:38 <@sdodson> Mercster: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25033498-38198,00.html
20:39 <@mgalgoci> http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/ireports/2009/02/09/irpt.vo.beijing.fire.ireport
20:39 <@mgalgoci> that was near the red hat bejing office
20:39 < Mercster> im sure weed is linked to a lot of things
20:40 <@sdodson> I need to travel more.
20:40 < Mercster> so is sunlight
20:40 < Mercster> AND I AINT AVOIDING THAT
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20:41 <@TheLightCosine> sdodson: it's nothing new
20:41 <@TheLightCosine> it's called 'spin'
20:41 <@TheLightCosine> every president does it
20:41 <@sdodson> That's a big freaking fire.
20:41 < Mercster> uh
20:41 < Mercster> what ive learned from obama tonight is 'uh'
20:41 <@TheLightCosine> asking uncomfortable questions has gotten a few reporters thrown out of the whitehouse before
20:42 <@mgalgoci> obama has said UH too many time without uncomfortable questions from asshole reporters
20:43 < Mercster> uh
20:43 <@Dagmar> That's pretty much the way he's always talked on the fly
20:43 <@TheLightCosine> yeah, call me when he says "strategery"
20:43 <@sasquatc4> at least he's thinking about what he's talking about and pausing with an 'uh'
20:43 < Mercster> uh
20:43 <@sasquatc4> as opposed to blurting out the first retarded thing he thinks of
20:43 <@mgalgoci> uhm
20:43 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4++
20:44 < Mercster> she looks/sounds like she needs to be in hospice20:40 <Merc> maybe that's what it takes to succeed in democracy
20:44 < Mercster> 20:40 <Merc> 'uh'
20:44 < Mercster> 20:40 <Merc> it telegraphs "im thinking"
20:44 < Mercster> erp
20:44 < Mercster> "he's saying uh, damn, he's really thinking this through"
20:45 < Mercster> "plus he says nuclear right...so what if he says 'uh' 4.2 times per sentence"
20:45 < Mercster> uh
20:45 <@TheLightCosine> heh
20:45 < Mercster> if anyone is playing the obama drinking game, congrats, you are now in a coma
20:45 <@TheLightCosine> hahhaha
20:45 <@dasunt> Fuck.
20:45 <@dasunt> I want to see House, damnit!
20:45 <@dasunt> House!
20:45 < Mercster> dasunt: uh
20:46 <@dasunt> Real fixes?  No.  Bread and circuses?  Hell yes!
20:47 < Mercster> dasunt: ill summarize tonight's episode for you. he takes a bunch of narcotics and then suspects a patient's rare disorder which turns out to cure them.
20:47 < Mercster> uh
20:47 < Mercster> actually, to make sure people dont die of alcohol poisoning, only drink when obama says "uh" twice in a row
20:47 < Mercster> you'll still end up drunk
20:47 < Mercster> uh uh
20:48 <@TheLightCosine> bah he only takes vics mercs
20:49 <@TheLightCosine> it's not like he's popping heavy stuff =P
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20:49 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: ive never actually seen one episode of house
20:49 <@dasunt> Mercster: But I want to hear his insults!
20:49 < jeebusroxors> you forgot sending the team to investigate the home
20:49 <@TheLightCosine> heh
20:49 < Mercster> im only going on what ive heard
20:50 < Mercster> dasunt: hey i dont wanna hear it, i missed 1/2 of the PBS news hour with jim lehrer for bredesen's stupid state of the state
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20:50 <@dasunt> Gawdamn, why can't Obama schedule his talk to preempt a useless show like CSI: Miami?
20:50 < Mercster> hah
20:50 <@dc0de> uh... uh... uh...
20:50 < Mercster> dc0de: you just nailed it
20:50 <@dc0de> uh... <blah blah> uh... uh...
20:50 < Mercster> uh
20:51 <@dc0de> I want to go through this when it's posted and count the "uh" s...
20:51 <@dc0de> and people said that Bush couldn't speak effectively... <geesh>
20:51 < Mercster> dc0de: i invented a drinking game where you drink every time he says 'uh', bvut people were dying of alcohol poisoning, so i changed it to "drink everytime he says 'uh' twice in a row"
20:51 < Mercster> dc0de: which might still be problematic
20:51 <@dc0de> yes, it is problematic...
20:51 <@dc0de> you should make it when he says "um".
20:51 < Mercster> thank you guys! uh
20:51 <@sasquatc4> is house even on? i dont see it on the guide and the presidential address is scheduled on there
20:51 < Mercster> "finally, id like to end with, uh"
20:52 <@dc0de> Japan has tried to do this, and they failed...
20:52 <@dc0de> they passed legislation for the past 10 years to "stimulate" their economy, and now they're facing country wide bankruptsy
20:52 < Mercster> dc0de: uh
20:53 <@dasunt> dc0de: To be fair, Japan's economy probably has levels of corruption the US economy does not.
20:53 <@dasunt> Woot!  Jack Bauer!
20:53 <@dc0de> dasunt: we have pork barrel politics to be the counter to that...
20:54 <@dc0de> so, following in their shoes is a great idea...
20:54 < Mercster> on to non-uh shit, PBS starts with a new docu on the assassination of lincoln
20:54 <@dc0de> it's just as smart as Atlanta doing all of the infrastructure things that have failed in LA.
20:54 < Mercster> for those who like docus
20:54 < Mercster> just letting you know uh
20:54 < Mercster> so you can uh
20:54 < Mercster> tune in
20:54 < Mercster> uh
20:54 < eryc> im not sure why i chose monday to compile gcc and all of gnu
20:54 <@dc0de> uh... cool... uh.
20:55 <@Dagmar> wwwHoly shit
20:55 <@Dagmar> The press conference actually ended on time
20:55 < eryc> yea someone tapped the keg
20:56 <@dc0de> uh, yeah, Dagmar, uh, that was, uh, a very, uh, on time conference, with, uh, quite a bit of, uh, information.
20:56 < Mercster> uh
20:56 <@Dagmar> Over blatant lies, I'll take it.
20:56 <@mgalgoci> uhhuh
20:56 <@dc0de> and you didn't hear the blatant lies?
20:56 < Mercster> lol uh @ Dagmar uh
20:57 < Mercster> at least bush could lie on the spot. obama calculates lies while saying "uh"
20:57 < eryc> so what was it about
20:57 < Mercster> eryc: uh
20:57 <@Dagmar> Too busy watching Heroes to give a crap right now
20:57 <@mgalgoci> eryc: it was about you with cunt hair stuck in your teeth
20:57 < eryc> u
20:57 < eryc> 21:03 <@dc0de> uh... cool... uh.
20:57 < eryc> 21:04 <@Dagmar> wwwHoly shit
20:57 <@sdodson> I don't think obama's uhs are any worse than bush's clear incompetence
20:57 < eryc> oops
20:58 < Mercster> uh
20:58 <@sasquatc4> uggh, sucks, they moved almost all feeds off conus and onto spotbeams, now i actually gotta record shit in my timezone and not 2 hours early
20:58 < eryc> mgalgoci: lol why u so mad about chickens
20:58 <@mgalgoci> you just think everything about "eric" is about you
20:58 < eryc> and you think im srs
20:58 <@dc0de> sdodson: no, it just clearly shows Obama's incompetence
20:59 <@mgalgoci> I think ur dork
20:59 <@sdodson> I only watched about 15 minutes of it. He didn't seem incompetent to me.
20:59 < Mercster> sdodson: uh
20:59 <@dc0de> he's uh, a puppet, uh, of the Illinois uh, nazi's
20:59 < eryc> youre wacko from my perspective
20:59  * sdodson pats dc0de on the head like a puppy
21:00 < Mercster> dc0de: my dad grew up on the southside. he's told me my whole life about how crooked IL is
21:00 <@Dagmar> *snicker8
21:00 < Mercster> i was born in normal, actually
21:00 < Mercster> (aint that a laugh?)
21:00 < Mercster> moved down south when i was 1
21:00 <@sdodson> ahw man, I almost uttered failtard speak
21:00 < Mercster> im an adopted redneck
21:00 < Mercster> uh
21:01 < eryc> today i learned
21:01 < eryc> weed causes nut cancer
21:01 < eryc> weed cures lung cancer
21:01 < Mercster> the sun causes cancer
21:01 <@mgalgoci> no dumbass weed shrinks nuts
21:01 <@mgalgoci> and lung cancer
21:01 < eryc> no thats steroids
21:01 < eryc> i mean ROIDS
21:02 <@mgalgoci> wrong
21:02 < eryc> roids and mtn dew
21:02 <@jb7od> my nuts used to be way too big but thanks to weed, now they're managable- I can run again!
21:02 <@jb7od> thanks weed.
21:02 <@sdodson> damnit, I meant to read up on git but all i'm doing is listening to you dumbasses
21:02 < Mercster> heh
21:02 < eryc> fuck git
21:02 < eryc> its all about hg
21:03 <@mgalgoci> fuck you
21:03 <@mgalgoci> it's all about RCS
21:03 < eryc> no SCCS
21:03 < Mercster> cvs is a crude hack ontop of rcs
21:03 <@mgalgoci> yes thank you merc
21:03 <@mgalgoci> run along
21:03 <@sdodson> I once updated FreeBSD via CTM, does that make me hardcore?
21:03 < Mercster> sdodson: uh
21:03 <@mgalgoci> no just nuts
21:03 < eryc> what is ctm
21:04 <@sdodson> Current Through Mail if i remember correctly.
21:04 <@sdodson> Basically patch sets sent via e-mail on a periodic basis.
21:04 < eryc> haha nice
21:05 <@sdodson> Wait, I'm completely lying.
21:05 < Mercster> yeah
21:05 < Mercster> wow @ eryc
21:05 <@mgalgoci> poop
21:05 < Mercster> WOW uh
21:05 <@mgalgoci> poop is calling
21:06 < eryc> sham wow
21:06 < Mercster> mgalgoci: answer the call, my friend
21:06 <@sdodson> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ctm.html
21:06 < eryc> Mercster: why yo wow me
21:06 < eryc> im not wowful
21:06 < Mercster> eryc: uh
21:06 <@sdodson> I downloaded them via ftp because cvsup wasn't working over the craptastic university dialup shit
21:07 < Mercster> first linux install i ever did was from a/b/d disksets i downloaded from a long-distance BBS in florida
21:07 < Mercster> cuz it was the thing to do
21:07 < Mercster> my mom hated me for that phone bill
21:08 <@mgalgoci> the first linux I installed was caldea network desktop, based on Red Hat 2.1
21:08 <@mgalgoci> caldera
21:08 < Mercster> mgalgoci: used slackware until redhat 3.3
21:08 <@sdodson> Mercster: Ya, I had 1 hour a day on a bbs. I'm pretty sure I could do two diskettes a day.
21:08 < Mercster> mgalgoci: me and my friend tried to install mother's day one time, cuz it was ELF and we thought that was cool, for no discernable reason, since none of us could code
21:08 <@mgalgoci> I used BBSen until I caught a virus and said fuck it
21:08 < Mercster> mgalgoci: but that failed
21:08 < Mercster> redhat wasnt "there" yet
21:09 <@mgalgoci> yes it was
21:09 < Mercster> not for us
21:09 <@mgalgoci> you weren't close enough
21:09 < Mercster> not for ppl used to slackware
21:09 < Mercster> which was "easy"
21:09 <@mgalgoci> fedora needs to become harder to use in order to survive
21:09 < eryc> what is mothers day
21:09 <@mgalgoci> those usability fuckers have it all wrong
21:09 <@mgalgoci> eryc: ask your mom
21:10 < Mercster> mgalgoci: all gui widgets must reside on the left side
21:10 < Mercster> eryc: an early redhat release
21:10 < eryc> besides you redhat ppl who are clearly in another world
21:10 < eryc> k
21:10 <@sdodson> Then my dad crushed my world by not showing me around because he couldn't stomach the fact that anything not from AT&T being unixy.
21:10 < Mercster> at&t sysv
21:10 < Mercster> heh
21:11 < Mercster> most mature IT depts have a damnable AT&T sysV box somewhere
21:11 < Mercster> noone knows how it works or what it does
21:11 <@sdodson> He did give me a set of unix manuals that predate me by atleast five years and a Bell Labs vi handbook which is cool.
21:11 < Mercster> but it's some vital link in the business logic chain
21:11 < Mercster> sdodson: nice
21:12 <@sdodson> I bet that chain includes a dot matrix printer.
21:12 <@sdodson> I downloaded a trojan that was supposed to increase my cpu speed.  The precentage bar progressed as it deleted everything on my c drive.
21:12 < Mercster> ouch
21:13 < Mercster> ya know ive never been bit bad by a virus. worst ive ever been bit was by myself. i deleted /etc once
21:13 < Mercster> then restored it from slackware diskette and it was ok
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21:13 < Mercster> dc0de1: uh
21:13 <@sdodson> AT&T was kind enough to send me a restore kit, 43 diskettes.  Atleast 12 of which had nothing on them but bits of a Tom Sellick (sp?) "You Will" advertisement
21:13 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZb0avfQme8
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21:15 <@sdodson> It's a bit freaky how much of that stuff is old news now.
21:15 < Mercster> i first ran linux X11 when you wrote your Xconfig by hand
21:16 < Mercster> which was fun
21:16 < Mercster> i.e. horrible
21:16 < Mercster> lots of math to come up with a modeline that worked on your hardware
21:16 < eryc> have you ever lol'd at a picture of a cat with a stupid caption
21:16 < eryc> YOU WILL
21:16 < Mercster> eryc: a few years ago
21:17 < Mercster> but then a full 67% of urls became funny cat pictures
21:17 < Mercster> and then i frowned
21:17 < eryc> this is a bit erie
21:17 < eryc> all this shit is real now
21:17 < eryc> well nobody is tucking in babies from payphones
21:17 <@mgalgoci> earie
21:17 <@mgalgoci> SPELL IT RIGHT
21:17 < eryc> um
21:17 < eryc> thats not a word
21:18 <@sdodson> My dad still refuses to admit AT&T ever does wrong.
21:18 < Mercster> It's spelled "eerie", but it's pronounced "uh"
21:18 < Mercster> sdodson: im kinda that way with IBM
21:18 <@sdodson> fuck ibm
21:18 < Mercster> SON OF A
21:18 <@sdodson> i got a blade, didn't even make it 24 hours and one of the two drives died
21:18 < eryc> java bastardizers
21:18 < Mercster> AIX > *
21:19 < AstralSin> i <3 hpux
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21:19 <@sdodson> and the controller is so shitty that one failed drive in RAID1 mirror took the entire mirror down.
21:19 < Mercster> AstralSin: hpux is solid
21:19 <@mgalgoci> AstralSin:sick fuck
21:19 < AstralSin> bahahahaha
21:19 <@sdodson> I got a box of HPUX software in the mail, I'll die a happy man if I never have to open it.
21:20 < AstralSin> you know you're not going to die a happy man
21:20 <@sdodson> It's bad enough I have to tend to solaris machines. I know even less about hpux than I do solaris.
21:20 < Mercster> i used to lol @ HPUX and include myself in HP-SUX jokes, until i was a unix admin responsible for a cluster of HP boxen
21:20 < AstralSin> solaris can be quite useful if you use it right
21:20 < Mercster> and then i learned, HPUX is pretty cool
21:20 < Mercster> AstralSin: cant say the same for sun, i hate sun
21:20 < eryc> why is hpux cool
21:21 <@sdodson> 21:29 <url> well, winblows is <reply> You linux weenies look so petty and small-minded when you do that.  (http://www.silly.names.is.not.an.effective.argument.com/)
21:21 < Mercster> eryc: uh
21:21 <@sdodson> ^^ sums up my feelings on "winblows" "slowaris"  and "hpsux"
21:21 < Mercster> all software blows
21:21 < Mercster> some just blows harder than others
21:21 < Mercster> depending on the job
21:21 <@mgalgoci> tom cruise is such a fag below fags
21:22 <@mgalgoci> I wish he'd just die already
21:22 < Mercster> mgalgoci: he fucked katy holmes
21:22 < Mercster> mgalgoci: what have you done
21:22 <@mgalgoci> your mom
21:22 < Mercster> dont start that
21:22 < eryc> i fucked katy perry
21:22 <@sdodson> that bitch needs to die
21:22 < Mercster> eryc: :-/
21:22 <@mgalgoci> there is no proof that he actually fucked katy holmes
21:22 < Mercster> he prolly at least saw her tits
21:23 <@sdodson> she has tits?
21:23 <@mgalgoci> probably
21:23 <@sdodson> She's not as boring as I thought she was.
21:24 < AstralSin> woo! that napera beta deal wasn't a scam
21:24 < AstralSin> my 24 port napera switch is in the mail :D
21:24 <@mgalgoci> nappy
21:24 < eryc> switch as a service
21:24 < eryc> free license includes 1 port
21:25 < eryc> please register to activate more ports
21:25 < eryc> - napera
21:25 <@mgalgoci> no dude
21:25 <@mgalgoci> all the ports are active
21:25 <@mgalgoci> you just get two mac addresses
21:26 < AstralSin>  im expecting all the ports to work but only at 10 mb/s
21:26 < AstralSin> and half the software on it to be all jacked up
21:26 <@sdodson> wtf is napera?
21:26 < eryc> is napster for a new era
21:26 < AstralSin> its a new company making switches that integrate open source monitoring and security software
21:26 < eryc> uh wut
21:27 < AstralSin> they had this offer where you sign up for a beta and half to do a trial period then they send you a 24 port switch for you to test over 30 days and do 6 surveys
21:27 <@mgalgoci> ya
21:27 <@TheLightCosine> hahha
21:27 < AstralSin> and you get to keep the switch
21:27 <@TheLightCosine> someone came up with wikipedia over dns
21:27 <@sdodson> You mean so I don't have to fuck with snort inline and clamav anymore?
21:27 <@TheLightCosine> dig -t txt hack.wp.dg.cx
21:27 < AstralSin> www.napera.com
21:27 < AstralSin> i actually have no idea what software is on it
21:27 < AstralSin> i just read free and went apeshit
21:28 <@sdodson> herpes is free too
21:28 <@mgalgoci> slashdot is fucked
21:28 <@mgalgoci> The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.
21:29 < Mercster> consider it a blessing
21:29 < AstralSin> sdodson: no, it usually costs a 12 pack of natural ice and/or some cheap vodka
21:29 < Mercster> you dont have to read anything on slashdot
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21:29 <@mgalgoci> but but but
21:29 < AstralSin> i like slashdot
21:30 < Mercster> Ask Slashdot: Being a hole, shouldnt my ass be able to take dicks?
21:30 < Mercster> (1156 comments)
21:30 < AstralSin> i don't read the comments
21:30 < eryc> i have slashdot on rss but its pretty useless
21:30 < AstralSin> unless i'm stoned and i'm in the mood for a laugh
21:30 < Mercster> AstralSin: heh, right
21:30 < Mercster> AstralSin: it's like the onion, but unintentionally funny
21:30 < eryc> they lag everyone else by a day
21:30 < eryc> its good if you like comments tho
21:30 < Mercster> fuck comments
21:31 < eryc> a notch above dig comments
21:31 < Mercster> i dont look at digg either
21:31 < Mercster> or reddit
21:31 < Mercster> or any of that shit
21:31 < Mercster> i read what i type, thats about it
21:31 < Mercster> also, porn
21:31 < AstralSin> your mother must be proud
21:31 -!- mgalgoci changed the topic of #se2600 to: <Mercster> Ask Slashdot: Being a hole, shouldnt my ass be able to take dicks? <AstralSin> i don't read the comments | not that any of you hosers will actually go, but Carolina Con is March 13-14 in Chapel Hill, NC http://carolinacon.org/
21:31 < Mercster> AstralSin: you'll wanna avoid even mentioning my mother
21:31 < AstralSin> thats not a very good topic, you missed some important parts of that conversation
21:32 <@mgalgoci> that's the point
21:32 < Mercster> AstralSin: s/important/gay
21:32 < Mercster> mgalgoci: these people dont have topic-fu
21:32 < Mercster> mgalgoci: dont even waste the energy
21:32 <@mgalgoci> jesus
21:32 <@mgalgoci> Mercster: I gotta try and teach
21:32 < Mercster> good luck
21:32 < eryc> that topic is in violation
21:33 <@mgalgoci> of?
21:33 < eryc> rule #1, dont encourage Mercster
21:33 < Mercster> eryc: eat my dick, bitch
21:33 < eryc> see
21:33 < Mercster> ya see
21:33 < Mercster> shut the fuck up
21:33 < eryc> uh
21:33 < Mercster> uh
21:33 < eryc> see
21:33 < Mercster> you're like obama!
21:33 < Mercster> uh
21:33 < eryc> ya but i got more change
21:33 < Mercster> what about hope
21:33 < Mercster> how's your hope doing
21:34 < eryc> hope on a rope
21:34 <@mgalgoci> just ask the pope
21:34 < Mercster> hope on a rope
21:34 < Mercster> soap shaped like obama
21:34 <@mgalgoci> don't be a dope
21:34 < Mercster> someone just came up with a $1million idea
21:34 <@mgalgoci> dope on a rope
21:35 < Mercster> uh on a rope
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21:39 <@sdodson> 20:31 < Nivex> gxti: your plan resulted in: e2fsck: need terminal for interactive repairs
21:39 <@sdodson> 20:32  * Nivex goes back to mashing 'y'
21:39 <@sdodson> 20:32 < gxti> write a script in your language of choice to open a pty and connect it to e2fsck
21:39 <@brimstone> err, e2fsck -y ?
21:40 <@sdodson> ya, that or something heavy on the y key if you don't feel like starting over
21:40 <@sdodson> It's not like you ever really know when to press N
21:41 < NotLarry_> anyone here have a steam account?
21:42 <@mgalgoci> no
21:42  * mgalgoci goes to bed
21:42 < Mercster> finally
21:42 <@sdodson> NotLarry_: you wanna be BFF on steam??!
21:42 <@mgalgoci> Mercster: YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
21:42 < Mercster> mgalgoci: suck my ass fagtard
21:42 < Mercster> mgalgoci: byyyyyyyeeeeee
21:42 <@mgalgoci> Mercster: for all you know I lied
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21:42 < Mercster> mgalgoci: i hope not
21:43 <@mgalgoci> keep wondering
21:43 < Mercster> k
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21:43 < AstralSin> steam has pissed me off
21:43 < AstralSin> i installed the dawn of war 2 beta and it broke my fallout 3
21:44 < Mercster> AstralSin: well, it _was_ beta
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21:44 < AstralSin> a beta shouldn't break other games on the system
21:44 < Mercster> oh
21:44 < Mercster> didnt know that
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21:56 < jeebusroxors> soo does anyone know if there are any meetings round columbia sc?
21:56 < jeebusroxors> 2600, binrev, something?
21:59 < Mercster> prolly a cross burning
22:00 <@sdodson> There's this really happening AA meeting
22:00 <@sdodson> They chicks there put out.
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22:11 <@dasunt> http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/chart.gif
22:11 <@dasunt> Looks like being a pedestrian is dangerous.
22:18 <@sdodson> dasunt: looks like more people walk than bike
22:18 <@sdodson> I think walking still comes out on top when compared per mile traveled.
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22:25 < jeebusroxors> oreally?
22:25 <@dasunt> sdodson: I'd have to say it depends where.
22:26 <@dasunt> I'm amazed that being a pedestrian is such a dangerous activity.
22:36 <@dc0de> it's pretty daring in DC.
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22:44 <@dasunt> Oh.
22:44 <@dasunt> I forgot.
22:44 <@dasunt> The other day, I'm downtown.
22:44 < Mercster> oh
22:44 <@dasunt> Crazy guy crosses (in the crosswalk) against the green.
22:44 <@dasunt> Along the way, he stops in front of every vehicle and wordlessly shakes his finger at them.
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22:45 <@dasunt> So I'm waiting for the crazy guy to get out of the way, when this bigass truck behind me honks his horn at me for not mowing down the pedestrian.
22:45 <@dasunt> W.T.F.?
22:45 <@dc0de> dasunt: haha... did it scare the shit out of you?
22:46 <@dasunt> dc0de: It startled me.
22:46  * dasunt needs a moon roof to properly flip off people.
22:47 <@CRasH180> I like my sun roof. Can do that no problems
22:47 <@dasunt> I once saw someone lay on his horn at a driver because he didn't enter the intersection while there was traffic and the light was red.
22:47 <@dasunt> He gave the bird to the guy (who was directly behind him) for a good block or so.
22:47  * dasunt sighs.
22:47 <@CRasH180> wow
22:47 <@CRasH180> road rage at its finest
22:48 <@dasunt> Yep.
22:48 <@dasunt> I'd probably be more pissed, but there's a part of my mind that's boggling over how it is possible to be angry at someone for *not* breaking the law and *not* risking their life.
22:49 <@CRasH180> I was going to work this morning and going onto the exit for Metro Center from 65S almost to where the cars from the interstate can no longer get onto the on-ramp. This jack ass and his gigantic Blue SUV tried to push his way into my car
22:49 <@dasunt> Oh, that happened to me today.
22:49 <@CRasH180> When I did not relent and the person behind me let him in, he was pissed. I mean PISSED
22:49 <@dasunt> I made the mistake of signalling before trying to change lanes.
22:49 <@CRasH180> What is it entitlement?
22:50 <@CRasH180> oops. You did what you are supposed to
22:50 <@dasunt> Now, if you are sane, you probably see someone ahead of you in the next lane over, going faster than you, start using their turn signal and let them merge.
22:50 <@sdodson> dasunt: perhaps the driver couldn't see the light?
22:50 <@CRasH180> s'ok, we will show them a light
22:50 <@dasunt> But, if you are batshit crazy, you see someone start to use their turn signal that's going faster than you, and you *floor* it.
22:51 <@CRasH180> yep
22:51 <@dasunt> sdodson: When traffic is stopped, it's a pretty big clue that there is a reason.
22:51  * dasunt is about to not use turn signals anymore when he changes lanes.
22:52 <@CRasH180> I am however tired of seeing people drive as if they are drunk. Either it is is texting/chatting/talking on cell phone or they are drunk/stoned.
22:52  * sdodson kills dasunt 
22:52 <@dasunt> Although the laying on the horn "hey, I decided to actually go the speed limit in the left lane now!" is cute as they narrowly miss you when you start to change lanes.
22:52 <@CRasH180> lol
22:52 <@dasunt> CRasH180: I literally saw one lady about half over the white line a few weeks ago.
22:52 <@dasunt> Going about 10 miles under the speed limit.
22:52 <@CRasH180> yep
22:52 <@dasunt> During rush hour.
22:52 <@dasunt> I finally passed her.
22:52 <@dasunt> She was reading her mail.
22:53 <@CRasH180> OMG
22:54 <@dasunt> Ah, the commuters on the interstate.
22:55 <@dasunt> I still don't get why houses out in the far suburbs are more desirable.
22:55 <@CRasH180> people are definitely distracted a hell of a lot while driving. Excuse me, not distracted, multi-tasking
22:55 < eryc> i swerve all the time
22:55 <@CRasH180> randomly?
22:55 < eryc> when im drunk or txting
22:56 <@CRasH180> or drunk texting
22:56 < eryc> ya
22:56 <@dasunt> You'd do well locally.
22:56 < eryc> but i keep it cool when cars are near me
22:56 <@CRasH180> he will get along well with the other drivers out there
22:56 < eryc> dont want anyone to go all 911 on me
22:57 < eryc> when no ones there the lanes just get really wide for me
22:57 <@CRasH180> rofl
22:59 <@CRasH180> Reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where Kramer makes the lanes double wide. Elaine is driving on the road later on at night and exclaims, "OOooohh, Wiiiiide LANES!"
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23:00 < eryc> i heard the cops are ticketing alot these days trying to make up their budget
23:01 <@CRasH180> I have seen quite a few cops giving tickets and one of my friends received a ticket for driving in the HOV lane when he was the only one in the car
23:01 < eryc> its fun when youre drunk and pass people that are pulled over
23:01 <@CRasH180> I would not know
23:02 <@CRasH180> But, will take your word for it
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23:03 < eryc> well first u get all srs then ur all lulz
23:04 < eryc> i wouldnt advise it unless ur a good drunk like me
23:05 <@CRasH180> Only been drunk once when a teenager
23:05 <@CRasH180> when I was a teenager
23:05 < Mercster> im drunk right now
23:05 < Mercster> goodnight
23:05 <@CRasH180> gn
23:05 < eryc> nite nite mercsy
23:06 < eryc> the Mercstess
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23:09 <@CRasH180> I feel cheated going to Radio Shack tonight
23:10 <@CRasH180> I went to buy Helping Hands. They charged me $16.99 for the thing. Harbor Freight has one for $2.99
23:22 <@Dagmar> Brick and mortar premium is a bitch, ain't it?
23:22 <@CRasH180> no shit
23:22 <@CRasH180> That is for sure
23:22 <@CRasH180> When I got home, I would have taken the thing back if they were open past 9 o clock
23:23 < eryc> 2.99 + shipping
23:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Um, Harbor Freight is a brick and mortar
23:23 <@CRasH180> screw shipping. They are right down the road from my house
23:24 <@Dagmar> Oh hell, take it back in the morning then
23:24 <@CRasH180> The S/H would be more than the actual item. I will take it back in the morning.
23:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Either Rat Shack has really crappy buyers or they're trying to price themselves out of the market
23:25 <@Dagmar> Hey, it worked for CompUSA didn't it?
23:26 <@CRasH180> lol sure did
23:26 <@Corydon76-dig> and Circuit City
23:27 <@CRasH180> Seems odd how that business model does not draw customers
23:27 <@CRasH180> I like paying more money for electronics......hmmm, no I don't
23:27 <@Corydon76-dig> While Circuit City was having their going out of business sale, I noted a keyboard they had on the shelf, ostensibly at 30% off.  I went next door to Best Buy and found exactly the same model for cheaper
23:28 <@CRasH180> lol
23:28 <@sasquatc4> yea, they jacked all their prices up to msrp, then take off the discount
23:28 <@Dagmar> I am kinda irked I missed out on that
23:28 <@sasquatc4> they have no real good deals
23:28 <@Dagmar> Usually the big ticket items tend to get reasonable discounts, and I could use another monitor
23:28 <@sasquatc4> naw, even those you still find cheaper online or elsewhere
23:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: No, you really aren't.  None of their GOOB sales actually knocked the price down below market
23:29 <@Dagmar> WEll, it would have only had to come down $20
23:29 <@CRasH180> you are a cheap sell
23:29 <@Dagmar> I had just been looking at theirs and everyone elses prices on it like the day befoer that started
23:30 <@Corydon76-dig> In fact, GOOB is exactly the word that applies to anybody who bought their shit at shelf price
23:30 <@sasquatc4> like even dvds and video games they jacked up to msrp, games that usually would have been 10$ were up to 20-30, so any discount was lost, and i was lookin for a tv box set, was 35$, and best buy was cheaper even after the goob discount, course deepdiscount was still cheaper than both
23:30 <@Corydon76-dig> 10 years ago, when they were still selling real appliances, they actually were a good store
23:31 <@Dagmar> Well, when they were hiring people that knew shit
23:32 <@CRasH180> Same for the GeekSquad at Best Buy. I am sure you all heard about them letting go of all the talented people and hiring cheap'o techs
23:32 <@Dagmar> Yep.
23:32 <@sasquatc4> neither of them have ever really hired knowledgable people
23:32 <@Corydon76-dig> You mean, instead of firing all their best people, because they got paid more than the average sales droid?
23:32 <@Dagmar> Notably, they were preferentially hiring internally from the _sales flood_
23:32 <@Dagmar> er floor
23:33 <@Dagmar> At *first* Geek Squad was actually hiring reasonably competent geeks
23:33 <@sasquatc4> i worked at bb for one summer almost 10 years ago, apparently i was the first ever person to actually complete the computer training booklet, and really anyone with even some basic pc knowledge coulda done it in an hour, they dont care what the sales people know, as long as they can push their service plans
23:33 <@Dagmar> That all went out the window when they took a bath financially on Katrina
23:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Gee, I can't imagine how hiring sales droids as techs could possibly go wrong
23:33 <@Dagmar> heheh
23:36 <@Dagmar> Harbor Freight carries some neat stuff.  You're lucky to live near one
23:37 <@CRasH180> I like that they are now in Antioch and I don't have to drive to Hermitage any more just for that one store
23:37 <@CRasH180> Or whatever the hell you call Hickory Hollow area
23:37 <@Corydon76-dig> CRasH180: you live in Antioch?
23:38 <@CRasH180> I live across the street from Aquatic Critter on Pearson Pl.
23:38 <@CRasH180> Near the Big Lots on Nolensville Rd
23:38 <@Corydon76-dig> You must like ShadowHntr a whole lot to go pick him up in West Nashville
23:38 <@CRasH180> yeah. He's a good guy
23:38 <@CRasH180> Well, we are friends and I just like helping people in general
23:39 <@Dagmar> WTF!  When did we get those here?
23:39 <@CRasH180> He is just down on his luck. Needs money for a new car. Don't do loans. Sorry.
23:39 <@Corydon76-dig> How many times has he called you to pick him up from the hospital?
23:39 <@CRasH180> never
23:39 <@Corydon76-dig> It'll come
23:39 <@Dagmar> What part of West Nashville does he live in?
23:40 <@CRasH180> Near the Regal Cinema just off the interstate
23:40 <@CRasH180> Exit 196
23:40 <@Dagmar> Ah, so he's further out on that side of town than I am
23:40 <@CRasH180> It is about a 13 mile drv for me
23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> CRasH180: apt or house?
23:40 <@CRasH180> House
23:40 <@CRasH180> Very nice house actually.
23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, then I'm in the same general development area
23:41 <@CRasH180> Do you go to meetings?
23:41 <@Corydon76-dig> only further south
23:41 <@Corydon76-dig> 2600 meetings, yes
23:42 <@CRasH180> He needs someone to give him a ride to the meetings as his car is currently kaputz. I do not mind doing it, but it is hard to get to him and haul him to the meeting before 6pm
23:42 <@Dagmar> That cop who pulled me over to give the warning on Friday would probably be pretty amused to know my car died almost immediately after the meeting
23:42 <@CRasH180> That was why we were late last meeting
23:42 <@CRasH180> wha?!
23:42 <@CRasH180> lol
23:42 <@Dagmar> Yeah, it's been sitting on Belmont near Bongo ever since.
23:42 <@CRasH180> damn
23:42 <@Dagmar> Tomorrow I'm going to have it towed down to Nashville Authohaus.  Hopefully it's just the fuel pump that died
23:43 <@CRasH180> U sound like ShadowHntr
23:43 <@Dagmar> Its about time to have the thing looked over again anyway
23:43 <@Dagmar> Well, this is the first major problem it's had in awhile
23:43 <@CRasH180> He needs a new crank case I believe
23:43 <@Dagmar> Ouch
23:43 <@CRasH180> something like that. Expensive when you do not have any cash
23:43 <@Corydon76-dig> He needs a new car is what he needs
23:43 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I'm pretty sure the fuel pump is what's borked because IF/WHEN it runs for a few seconds, it runs fine
23:44 <@Dagmar> ...and then it just peters out like there's no fuel reaching the engine
23:44 <@CRasH180> Corydon76-dig: I know. But, it is hard
23:44 <@sasquatc4> oh wtf kinda shady shit is this, tryin to get hockey tickets, and they sell through ticketmaster, well they refuse to sell you most of the tickets so you have to go through their 'teamexchange', from there to purchase any tickets you have to buy a 'membership', which immediately tacks on 50$ to each ticket price
23:44 <@sasquatc4> so what was once a normal price is now rediculous
23:45 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: Yeah they've got a merger about to happen with the auction sales people and they've ALREADY got people (Bruce Springsteen included!) furious at them
23:45 <@Dagmar> It's going to be a no-brainer by the time the FTC gets around to smashing them
23:45 <@CRasH180> Heard of all kinds of shit like that. Or, them making you wait on hold. Then, when the regular tickets are sold out, they shuttle you to "scalpers" to buy tickets from at 3 - 4x the price
23:46 <@Dagmar> Springsteen concert last week "sold out" in under 20 minutes, yet the TicketXChange people somehow had plenty of tickets left for 10x the price
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23:46 <@sasquatc4> wtf
23:46 <@Dagmar> There's a story on it already on Wired.com
23:46 <@Dagmar> They're seriously about to get in trouble
23:46 <@sasquatc4> like i was gonna get those, but now i may as well get em on stubhub, or try to beg one of our vendors for his 2nd row seats if he has em left
23:48 <@Corydon76-dig> http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20090209/wr_nm/us_ticketmaster_lawsuit_2
23:48 <@Corydon76-dig> We need a law like that in TN
23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Fucking scalpers
23:49 <@Dagmar> Yeah welll, every time I try to bring up on various Nashville-centric forums, there's always a few pompous assholes who want to yammer about "That's a free-market economy, man"
23:49 <@sasquatc4> i thought most states have anti-scalping laws, they just arent that enforced
23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> TN definitely does NOT have such a law
23:50 <@CRasH180> That's right
23:50 <@Dagmar> Of course, when it was Miley fucking Cyrus tickets being scalped for two grand a pop and people's precious little daughters wanted to go, THEN suddenly it's a problem lawmakers are willing to talk about
23:50 <@sasquatc4> hehe
23:50 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: most startes *do* have anti-scalping laws, which doesn't entirely stop the scalpers, but it keeps them from going big-time
23:50 <@Dagmar> ...like they're doing now.
23:50 <@CRasH180> Wait! You had tickets to Miley Cyrus and you didn't tell me?!?!! OMG!!!!  uuummmm, yeah. OK
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Even if Nashville alone passed an ordinance about it, that would be enough
23:51 <@Dagmar> ...because it's become really obvious that the scalpers are *creating* the scarcity they exploit
23:51 < eryc> its miley
23:52 <@Dagmar> Oh sweet, thanks for that yahoo article
23:52 <@Dagmar> That'll be excellent ammunition for these fucks
23:52 <@Corydon76-dig> If you want to make a profit off ticket sales, do it the same way as everybody else and become a registered reseller
23:52 <@Dagmar> Didn't take them long to get themselves sued
23:53 <@sasquatc4> hmmm, well there goes the idea of a hockey game again for valentines day, and every fuckin restaraunt in this town is already booked, hopefully it'll be ok that its friday instead
23:53 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: Ah but that would mean they coulnd't charge ludicrous prices
23:53 <@Dagmar> ...becuase they'd be allocated a set amount and they'd never be able to move them at uncompetitive prices
23:53 <@CRasH180> Is Ludicous playing?! Wait, I can't afford the 10x priced tickets
23:54 <@CRasH180> That sucks though
23:54 <@CRasH180> It is the same thing that they do for Titans games
23:54 <@Dagmar> Here's the Wired article: http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/02/would-a-ticketm.html
23:55 <@Dagmar> CRasH180: I suspect the first titans game that gets immediately scalped to $400 for general admission tickets will be the last time TicketMaster gets to do that in Nashville
23:55 <@CRasH180> I doubt it
23:56 <@Dagmar> We'll see
23:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: what's the current scalped price for Titans general admission, though?
23:56 <@CRasH180> Live Nation and Ticketmaster merger? ah crap
23:57 <@Dagmar> You can usually stil l get them a few days before the game from what Iv'e been told
23:57 <@CRasH180> Is this kind of like Sirius and XM merging?
23:57 <@Dagmar> Not really
23:57 <@CRasH180> just wondering
23:58 <@Dagmar> That was going to give people more content access without a major price increase.
23:58 <@Dagmar> The TM/LN merger is just going to give people higher prices
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: except that, oops, there's a major price increase this month from Sirius/XM
23:58 <@CRasH180> right
23:59 <@CRasH180> I heard that from friends that have the service(s)
23:59 <@Dagmar> What kills me is that TicketMaster and a few other places just went and pressured congresss to toughen up a few laws with respect to people using botnets to flood the ticket purchase sites to run out all the tickets
23:59 <@sasquatc4> well that sucks, was hopin to do the same thing as our first date and get some pimpin seats, guess dinner at a pimpin restaurant the day before will have to do
23:59 <@CRasH180> You have to plan ahead about 3 months in advance
23:59 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: I doubt it's more than 50%
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