--- Log opened Sat Feb 07 00:00:03 2009 00:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> laws should be more strict for people that think they are special in some way 00:06 < ware> lulz 00:08 -!- Synx_hm [n=Synx@unaffiliated/synxhm/x-393023] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> well, that was a little less than I had hoped to get out of that...but I'll take what I can get 00:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: the newest roller girl came to the gallery tonight 00:18 < ware> yeah? 00:18 < ware> get any pictures? 00:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> with some friends 00:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> no, I was too busy freaking out about the sound system 00:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> we lost the remote and cant change the system off surround sound :( 00:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> and the DJs didnt find it amusing 00:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> I went out and bought a universal.. but apparently it isn't really all that universal 00:22 < ware> suck 00:22 < ware> unplug it? 00:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> surround is the startup state 00:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm sure I'll get it fixed before next opening.. 00:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> for $20 more than I paid for the remote I could have bought the entire system over again 00:30 < CRasH180> Are you two talking about Women's Roller Derby? 00:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> has anyone submitted the package to take part in this discovery channel thing? 00:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> CRasH180: yeah 00:30 < CRasH180> I heard that was lots of fun 00:31 < CRasH180> Would like to go to watch that 00:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> my body mod guy is a big supporter so I've always tried to back them up.. 00:31 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 00:32 < CRasH180> cool 00:32 <@m0j0-j0j0> another bud of mine in FL is a ref for rollerderby 00:32 <@m0j0-j0j0> I dont think I would want that job 00:33 < CRasH180> me either 00:33 <@m0j0-j0j0> tuff grrlz 00:33 < CRasH180> I'm sure. I would get my ars kicked 00:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> he operates in a perpetual 420 fog so he might not be aware he'd getting hit half the time 00:34 < CRasH180> 420 fog? 00:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> he does more pot than your local greasy spoon dishwasher 00:36 < CRasH180> ah 00:36 < CRasH180> damn, 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s drive for $87.99 w/ free s/h 00:36 < CRasH180> ah, New Egg 00:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> cool... I need a new router before I worry about my drive 00:37 < CRasH180> D-Link DIR-615 802.11n Wireless N Router with N Notebook Adapter $39.99 00:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> no more d-link.. the one i bought a month ago locks up all the time... d-link just isnt for me 00:39 < CRasH180> I understand 00:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> linksys routers should be cheap at Circuit City these days 00:42 < CRasH180> You would be surprised 00:43 < CRasH180> I have a Linksys Wireless N Router 00:43 < CRasH180> Am using it right now to hook up my computer and Sun E450 00:46 <@m0j0-j0j0> linksys has always been good to me 00:46 <@m0j0-j0j0> it worked well until it doesn't work at all 00:46 < CRasH180> I agree. Have always liked Linksys 00:47 < eryc> why do u have a e450 00:48 < CRasH180> Test box for personal use. I work with Sun Servers loaded w/ Solaris 9 at work 00:48 < CRasH180> Michael Chaney asked if anyone wanted it and I snatched it up 00:49 < eryc> guess it helps keep the place warm 00:50 < CRasH180> It doesn't actually warm up the house that bad 00:50 < CRasH180> The three 640W power supplies are not always cranking at the same time 00:50 < eryc> does that even have a lom? 00:50 < CRasH180> yep 00:51 < eryc> you can poweron/poweroff? 00:51 < CRasH180> yes 00:52 < eryc> hm, cool 00:52 < CRasH180> I don't keep it up and running all day. No need and do not want to connect from my office. Actually, we have one in the office as well 00:52 < CRasH180> On the network to test with 00:52 < eryc> cool 00:53 < eryc> you know how to use jumpstart? 00:53 < CRasH180> Sounds familiar 00:53 < eryc> oh 00:54 < eryc> well i recently learned a shortcut for telling a sun to boot net 00:54 < CRasH180> oh 00:54 < eryc> in the lom, bootmode bootscript="boot net:dhcp - install" 00:54 < eryc> then poweron and it will pass the args 00:54 <@m0j0-j0j0> not to derail the discussion... but did anyone do the discovery channel thing? 00:55 < CRasH180> What do you mean by Discovery Channel thing? 00:55 < CRasH180> And, that would be a no from me 00:55 < eryc> nah i just crossposted it to 200 other mailing lists 00:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> CRasH180: they are looking for some people to do fabrication/hardware hacking 00:58 < CRasH180> link? 00:58 < CRasH180> Can't find it on the site 00:59 < eryc> its on the phreaknic site 00:59 < CRasH180> okee 00:59 <@m0j0-j0j0> http://www.phreaknic.info/ 01:00 < CRasH180> Sounds interesting, but it is not up my alley. There may be some people in NLUG that may be interested 01:02 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:03 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 01:06 < ware> i heard its a scam 01:06 < eryc> me2 01:06 < CRasH180> Pay us $5000 in 5 easy installments and you will be on our show? 01:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: your shirt is up for sale 01:07 < ware> ahh man! 01:07 < ware> im not quite drunk enough for the impulsive shopping on the internets 01:08 < ware> i think thats the fun part, guilty pleasure 01:11 < CRasH180> good night all. Enjoyed the meeting tonight. 01:11 -!- CRasH180 [n=what@c-69-245-26-225.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["sleep is now"] 01:20 <@Evilpig> wtf. southpark on fox? 01:40 < scoil> wtf futurama on cc 01:43 -!- scoil [i=meowmix@shadow404.is.a.crybaby.wahhhhhh.scoil.info] has quit ["leaving"] 01:45 < sync350> potheads smoke pot and sit on the couch watching Squidbillies, innovative stoners like myself smoke a blunt and install Linux :) 01:46 < ware> <- been hackin on vpn technologys 01:47 <@scort> just got home 01:47 <@scort> been working on food for tomorrow 01:47 <@scort> hookin this guy up to burn and make dvd movies 02:01 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvvhDngERXo&feature=related 02:02 < ware> http://www.hulu.com/watch/54126/the-colbert-report-stephens-remix-challenge 02:14 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:15 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 02:19 < eryc> the re remix is good too 02:44 <@dasunt> Math majors are cocky enough to not check their work. 02:44 <@dasunt> Fuckers. 02:46 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 02:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 03:07 -!- scoot [i=z@ware.did.that.chair.go.scoil.info] has joined #se2600 03:08 < scoot> ???????????????? 03:20 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 03:32 <@dasunt> I was idly working on a math problem with triangles the other day. 03:32 <@dasunt> So I posted it on a forum I'm on. 03:33 <@dasunt> And this one member (whose work is partially math related and has a degree in the field) comes up with a "well its simple, the problem is solved with the following formula". 03:33 <@dasunt> Too bad he's wrong. 04:07 <@dasunt> It is kind of weird that the only presidential assassination attempt in the last 40 years was due to a guy that was batshit crazy. 04:09 <@dasunt> Although mentally insane assassins aren't too uncommon in US history. 04:36 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:36 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 07:42 -!- CRasH180 [n=what@c-69-245-26-225.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:45 -!- mgalgoci [n=mgalgoci@adsl-065-005-196-076.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net] has quit ["(Read error: Connection reset by peer)"] 07:58 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 08:28 < modnoc> .. 08:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 10:10 -!- modnoc [n=modnoc@adsl-240-254-151.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [] 10:20 <@TheLightCosine> man pirate bay has been suckin lately 10:20 <@TheLightCosine> their search engine is seriously fux0red 10:21 <@CRasH180> get a new engine 10:21 <@CRasH180> A V8 sounds good 10:22 <@CRasH180> vrroooom 10:22 <@TheLightCosine> heh 10:30 < _vapor_> Does anybody here have VDSL in their area (around nashville) and if so what are the speeds and pricing? 10:31 <@TheLightCosine> dolemite has u-verse 10:33 < _vapor_> thx 10:34 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-98-233-94-192.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:40 <@CRasH180> I am thinking about switching from Comcast to u-verse 10:40 <@CRasH180> bbl 10:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 10:56 -!- jeebusroxors [n=suckMyUb@unaffiliated/jeebusroxors] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:01 -!- jeebusroxors [n=suckMyUb@unaffiliated/jeebusroxors] has joined #se2600 11:39 < AstralSin> i just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance with progressive! 11:45 -!- Catonic [n=catonic@175-109.125-70.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 11:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 11:53 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-98-233-94-192.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 12:19 < _vapor_> did you switch to progressive? 12:21 < ware> TheLightCosine: yorue crazy 12:21 < ware> tbp is always win 12:28 <@TheLightCosine> ware: teheir search engine is pooched lately 12:47 < eryc> u dont no the hax 12:47 < eryc> itworx 12:56 <@TheLightCosine> hrm, how do you get dig to show ALL of a domain's NSes instead o just a couple? 12:56 <@Shadow404> um, who not whois it? 12:57 <@TheLightCosine> ? 12:58 < ware> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 12:58 < ware> google.com. 172799 IN NS ns1.google.com. 12:58 < ware> google.com. 172799 IN NS ns2.google.com. 12:58 < ware> google.com. 172799 IN NS ns3.google.com. 12:58 < ware> google.com. 172799 IN NS ns4.google.com. 12:58 < ware> dig hostname.tld 12:58 < ware> it will list them all 12:58 <@Shadow404> yeah, it does 12:58 <@Shadow404> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 12:58 <@Shadow404> shadow404.com. 1111 IN NS shaven.yak.net. 12:58 <@Shadow404> shadow404.com. 1111 IN NS tertiary.yak.net. 12:58 <@TheLightCosine> why do i doubt that qwest has only two NS? 12:58 <@Shadow404> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 12:59 <@Shadow404> snsweather.com. 17567 IN NS ns2.us.editdns.net. 12:59 <@Shadow404> snsweather.com. 17567 IN NS ns3.us.editdns.net. 12:59 <@Shadow404> snsweather.com. 17567 IN NS ns1.us.editdns.net. 12:59 < ware> thats all you need 12:59 <@Shadow404> yeah 12:59 < ware> qwest.com. 3600 IN NS dca-ans-01.inet.qwest.net. 12:59 < ware> qwest.com. 3600 IN NS svl-ans-01.inet.qwest.net. 12:59 <@TheLightCosine> bleh i'm stupid 12:59 < ware> nah 13:00 <@TheLightCosine> for some reaosn i assumed their resolved would be lsited under their ns entries 13:01 <@TheLightCosine> but their resolvers wouldn't be the same servers as where their actual dns records are kept 13:12 <@rhia> how NOT to design your blog: http://www.myspace.com/DallasBurlesqueFestival 13:18 <@TheLightCosine> thanks rhia 13:18 <@TheLightCosine> opening that apge locked everything up 13:18 <@TheLightCosine> i had to kill that firefox tab in order to get things moving again 13:19 <@rhia> didn't lock up on mine - just made my eyes bleed 13:19 <@rhia> but, that's yet another reason to NOT use that design 13:21 <@TheLightCosine> i was gunna be real pissed if i din't get it back heh 13:21 <@TheLightCosine> i haven't saved this lsit i'm compiling yet 13:21 <@rhia> tsk 13:22 -!- jb70d is now known as jb7od 13:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jb7od] by ChanServ 13:23 <@TheLightCosine> damn gedit doesn't support regex in it's find and replace 13:25 <@TheLightCosine> have to write a perl script to filter the junk out 13:32 <@TheLightCosine> wow it's been a while since i've done any heavy lifting in perl heh 13:46 <@brimstone> sed? 13:49 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 13:54 < ware> thats wut he sed, bunneh bred. 13:54 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 13:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 13:54 <@TheLightCosine> brim: nah i gotta test the server ips anyways, so i can just filter it all in the same perl program 14:08 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:19 <@dasunt> "Even though Craigslist does not allows firearms and ammunition advertisements, it is still beneficial sure to check the Sporting Goods section. In my my local Craigslist there are "47 speed bicycles, AK brand", and similar items regularly for sale." 14:20 <@scort> lalw 14:20 <@TheLightCosine> lol 14:26 <@Shadow404> nice 14:26 <@Shadow404> anyone have recommandation for resedential routers? i need it to be at least g 14:26 <@Shadow404> with ipv6 support 14:27 <@Shadow404> are the new netgears any good? 14:29 <@brimstone> wrt54g 14:29 <@TheLightCosine> eew no 14:29 <@brimstone> then openwrt it! 14:29 <@TheLightCosine> avoid the belkin routers 14:29 <@Shadow404> i did that once and bricked it 14:29 <@Shadow404> heh 14:29 <@sdodson> ipv6 will be awesome this year! even coil uses it 14:29 <@TheLightCosine> their nics are good but the routers are shite 14:29 <@TheLightCosine> i'd say d-link or netgear 14:29 <@TheLightCosine> or if you can find a good actiontec 14:31 <@scort> halp wheres the /etc/hostname file in f10!!?!?!!? 14:32 <@Shadow404> hmm dlink dir-615 14:37 < _vapor_> If anybody knows of any Windows/Linux/Network Engineering positions open please send them my way. I could use a job :-) 14:39 <@aestetix> oh man 14:39 <@aestetix> I just ripped anal heat 14:40 <@Drag0n> get in line vapor 14:41 <@dasunt> Computer repair shops are doing good atm. 14:41 < scoot> liar dasunt mine just got bankrupted. 14:42 <@Dagmar> If people with some free time could go to http://www.yakkel.com/tutorials/1086/how-to-ruin-the-internet and maybe even comment on how useful the tutorial is 14:43 <@Dagmar> I'm sure it will help piss off the admins of the site UNTIL THEY FUCKING TAKE THE SPAMMERS THEY HAVE OUT 14:45 < _vapor_> Yeah I know the line is long.... 14:46 < _vapor_> I have been whoring out my resume for just about anything 14:47 -!- scoot [i=z@ware.did.that.chair.go.scoil.info] has left #se2600 [] 15:02 <@TheLightCosine> dag: are you just after having an increase of hits to that article so it will show in their logs? 15:04 <@TheLightCosine> if you're just looking for uniqe IP hits, it would be a fairly simple matter to drive about 5-6000 unique ips 15:23 <@Dagmar> I can't find where the minicity script is 15:24 <@Dagmar> Mainly I was trying to make sure it appears at http://www.yakkel.com/tutorials/freshest 15:24 <@Dagmar> I just published a second one with slightly different verbiage just to piss off the admin 15:27 <@TheLightCosine> well, if you want i can set it up so they both stay on the top heh 15:33 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:18 <@Dagmar> Right now they are on the top because they're the most recent. 16:18 <@Dagmar> By monday I should have some angry email 16:19 <@Dagmar> The fun thing is that I made a new hotmail account for it. Their verification email still hasn't shown up 16:19 <@Dagmar> If they don't flush those spammers but do flush my howtos, then we'll talk about well... 16:19 <@Dagmar> ...fucking the whole site up the ass. 16:20 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=whee@71-85-152-137.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 16:20 <@sdodson> if i had a fullsized beyboard i'd be making fun of you right now 16:20 <@sdodson> keyboard 16:20 <@TheLightCosine> hrmm i need to find a domain that allows zone transfers 16:23 <@brimstone> allows zone transfers? for why? 16:24 <@TheLightCosine> an experiment 16:28 <@TheLightCosine> oh wait nm, it wouldn't work anyways 16:31 -!- Cynefrid [n=whee@71-85-152-137.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:35 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 16:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 16:36 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Client Quit] 16:47 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:01 -!- TheLightCosine [n=c0malod@c-98-211-40-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 17:18 <@NotLarry> Dolemite: you on? 17:29 <@Catonic> sup NotLarry 17:45 <@NotLarry> just chillin at work. 17:46 < Mercster> lettin ya nutz hang 17:47 <@NotLarry> well, trying to keep from getting my ass chewed, if that's the same thing. 17:49 <@Catonic> "Hey, if you're gonna be chewing on my ass anyway, why don't you give my balls a lick while you're down there?" 17:50 <@Catonic> mycoplasma is AWESOME. It's like Groundhog's Day, the movie, but The Cold instead. 17:50 <@Catonic> every day, you wake up with the same cold, again. 17:55 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 18:13 <@CRasH180> I don't like that movie. Colds suck 18:16 <@Dagmar> That's why it's also called "walking pneumonia" 18:16 <@Dagmar> Take care of that shit man 18:18 <@CRasH180> yeah, what he said! 18:18 <@Dagmar> It's antibiotic-resistant, too usually. You don't want him showing up somewhere, coughing, and giving you that shit. 18:39 <@aestetix> Huh. 18:39 <@aestetix> This is interesting. 18:39 <@aestetix> Apparently Phelps had a DUI charge when he was 19, and Kelloggs knew about it. 18:40 <@aestetix> *sigh* DUI is way, way, way worse than smoking pot... 18:40 <@Shadow404> agreed 18:40 <@aestetix> I can deal with someone smoking pot. 18:41 <@Shadow404> i smoke pot, so i can easily deal with it 18:41 <@aestetix> A DUI... I kinda lose respect for the person, and don't trust them as much. 18:41 <@Shadow404> agreed 18:41 <@Dagmar> THey should put it to a vote among their customers 18:41 <@aestetix> I have no issue with smoking pot. I have a huge issue with drinking/driving. 18:41 <@aestetix> So I can't figure out why Kellogg's was ok with the DUI, but not with the pot. 18:41 <@Dagmar> aestetix: THey need to just drop it, but there's people getting to stand in front of the camera and act like they did something important 18:41 <@aestetix> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/07/fans-defend-phelps-after-his-pot-puffing/ 18:42 <@Dagmar> It's a crock of shit. 18:42 <@Dagmar> They've been talking about how he shouldn't be treated any differently because he's a celebrity. 18:42 <@Dagmar> Has ANYONE heard of ANYONE ever being investigated because of a photo of them with a bong on their face? 18:43 < Mercster> issa OUTRAGE! 18:43 <@aestetix> I agree he shouldn't be treated differently. 18:43 <@Dagmar> Cops know how that "evidence" won't even go to court 18:43 <@aestetix> Just fucking ignore it, like you ignore it with everyone else. 18:43 < Mercster> who was that lawyer for oj simpson 18:43 < Mercster> the black one 18:43 < Mercster> issa OUTRAGE! 18:43 <@Dagmar> Well, the photo isn't proof of the composition of anything you can't even see in the tiny little bowl 18:44 <@Dagmar> ...and anything else would be testimony against the defendant by himself or hearsay 18:44 <@aestetix> So it's basically him with what appears to be paraphanelia 18:45 -!- modnoc [n=modnoc@adsl-240-254-151.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 18:46 <@Dagmar> It has to actually be used for something to be considered paraphenalia 18:46 <@Dagmar> Like, the cops would have to find the smoking pipe (heh) and test it 18:47 < ware> Phelps for prez 18:47 <@Dagmar> But I have never heard of anyone being so much as glared at by the cops for this 18:48 <@aestetix> The cops generally don't care. 18:48 < Mercster> well, see, people get to smoke weed because of privacy 18:48 <@aestetix> Unless you're in a public place or something. 18:49 < Mercster> privacy is sort of a backdoor way to doing shit that isnt legal if noone else knows about it 18:49 < Mercster> if noone knows about it but you, it cant possibly be hurting anyone else but you 18:49 < Mercster> so privacy protects you to that extent 18:49 < Mercster> when yer famous, you give up a lot of that privacy 18:49 < Mercster> so when there's a pic of you smoking weed, yea, they're gonna look at it 18:49 <@Dagmar> If they have a problem with Phelps, then they should be campaigning for pilots to remain sober at all times 18:49 < Mercster> out of fairness, actual or percieved 18:50 < Mercster> what do you want the government to do, laugh it off. they spend millions, what, billions a year from keeping people from smoking weed 18:50 < Mercster> swimboy tokes on camera and they're supposed to ignore it? 18:51 < Mercster> i dont like it anymore than you do, but getting uppity about it is pretty simple 18:51 <@Catonic> I think we just need to pull the gloves off and admit that weed isn't the worst thing you can do to your body. 18:51 < Mercster> if they knew who you were and your picture was plastered everywhere smoking dope, they'd prolly do the same to you 18:52 < ware> <- im not so sure about that Bob 18:52 < Mercster> they cant very well find everyone who has a pic of themselves smokin' weed 18:52 < Mercster> but they can find michael phelps 18:52 < Mercster> Catonic: well yeah, thats another subject 18:52 <@Catonic> imagine if we legalized methamphetamine overnight. 18:52 < Mercster> weed is much less harmful than booze 18:52 < ware> weed, like radioactive materials, can be devestating when prolonged exposure is endured 18:52 <@Catonic> ware: nah 18:52 < ware> Catonic: natural selection would run its course 18:52 < Mercster> ware: so is lots of shit that's legal 18:53 < ware> ALL DRUGS ARE BAD. 18:53 <@Catonic> alcohol is terrible 18:53 < ware> Catonic: you ever do a STUN server 18:53 <@Catonic> the effects of alcohol are evidenced externally, but internally, it's the cell walls alternately drying out and rehydrating 18:54 <@Catonic> what's a STUN server? 18:54 < ware> Simple Traversal of UDP through NATs 18:54 <@Dagmar> http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=stun+server 18:54 < ware> punching holes thru firewalls to allow client to client communication 18:55 < Mercster> didnt uh 18:55 < Mercster> whats that called 18:55 <@Catonic> no, I use UPNP for a few things, but largely... I don't care. 18:55 <@Dagmar> First hit, first line: "STUN (Simple Traversal of UDP through NATs (Network Address Translation)) is a protocol for assisting devices behind a NAT firewall or router with their packet routing. RFC 5389 redefines the term STUN as 'Session Traversal Utilities for NAT'. " 18:55 < ware> ive got some ideas for a darknet type vpn mesh that i want to setup 18:55 < Mercster> the thing for UPNP 18:55 < Mercster> yeah thats it 18:55 <@Catonic> I don't game, and as a result, I rarely care about UDP. 18:55 < ware> its more than gaming 18:55 < Mercster> UPNP is for discovery of media too 18:55 < Mercster> media stores 18:55 -!- sco\ware [i=z@ware.did.that.chair.go.scoil.info] has joined #se2600 18:56 <@Catonic> DNS, sure, otherwise, I have to redirect the packets to a specific machine. 18:56 < ware> its backdoor / round about access from where ever you are 18:56 < sco\ware> hy Catonic 18:56 < sco\ware> how ru 18:56 <@Catonic> and typically, that's for a single host since the only VoIP application I use is Echolink (or EchoMac) 18:56 < ware> Catonic: youre thinking like an admin, think like a user 18:56 -!- jeebusro1ors [n=suckMyUb@unaffiliated/jeebusroxors] has joined #se2600 18:56 < ware> youre a client on X network with no rights outside of internet connectivity 18:56 -!- jeebusroxors [n=suckMyUb@unaffiliated/jeebusroxors] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:57 < Mercster> ware: quit nerdin' up this channel 18:57 < Mercster> jesus 18:57 <@Catonic> ware: I have root on the firewall. What do I need to worry with anything for? If I need it, I'll drop the box into the DMZ, or I'll just redirect the packets as is. 18:57 < ware> to be able to join a vpn with other clients regardless where they are at and have access to their resources is golden 18:57 <@Catonic> basically, if I need it, I have more IP addresses. 18:57 < ware> youre thinking like the admin 18:57 < ware> i just said think like a user / client 18:57 < ware> at star bucks 18:58 < ware> or one of your clients LANs 18:58 <@Catonic> I'd be completely screwed if someone implemented a series of asterisk endpoints that registered remotely. 18:58 < ware> or the hospital etc, where ever! 18:58 <@Catonic> ipsec/openvpn and socks proxy, squid, etc. 18:59 <@Catonic> wait... why am I doing your homework for you? 19:00 < ware> *facepalm* 19:00 < ware> youre not 19:00 < ware> i was asking if you had implemented a STUN server 19:01 < Mercster> HE SAID NO 19:01 < ware> because i already know what i want to do 19:01 < ware> i wanna run a private hamachi basically 19:02 <@Catonic> because that's a security violation. 19:03 < ware> ? 19:03 <@Catonic> the benefit to NAT is that many machines share a single IP address 19:03 < ware> lol dude we're not talkin on the same level 19:03 < ware> and i have to go finish up pullin the head off the Saab 19:03 <@Catonic> but that also brings an inherent firewall of sorts with it -- traffic may only be sent out. 19:04 * Mercster feels Catonic's forehead 19:04 <@Catonic> I would'nt want to implement STUN or hamachi because it would place multiple machines at risk. 19:04 < ware> Catonic: no it will traverse 19:04 <@Catonic> The internet is a bad place. We make it so. 19:04 < ware> with no static routes / forwarded ports 19:04 < ware> that is the beauty of it 19:05 < ware> assuming you are behind a compliant type of NAT it will work 19:05 < ware> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-STUN 19:05 < ware> see various types of NAT 19:05 <@Catonic> it's not a good thing. 19:05 -!- sco\ware is now known as imgay 19:05 < Mercster> neither is anime, we let you watch that, dont we 19:06 < ware> why is that? 19:06 < ware> not a good thing 19:06 <@Catonic> it's totally in keeping with the idea and the original idea of the internet, versus our current implmentation. 19:06 < Mercster> :| 19:08 <@Catonic> I'm pretty lost on the concept. 19:20 < imgay> im gay 19:23 <@Shadow404> scoil.diaf.snsweather.com 19:26 < Mercster> congrats, poopdick 19:26 < Mercster> man, wtf. eboard includes joystick support 19:27 < Mercster> in fact, if you have a joystick plugged in, it's impossible to make the huge green cursor go away 19:32 <@Catonic> imgay: how you been? Still in San Anton? 19:32 < imgay> yeah 19:32 < imgay> now i have cool leet vhosts 19:32 -!- imgay [i=z@ware.did.that.chair.go.scoil.info] has left #se2600 [] 19:33 <@Evilpig> dear god. ware's stupid hosts are spreading 19:34 <@Evilpig> http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/Download anyone here ever heard of wifidog or played with it even? 19:54 -!- iceknife [n=iceknife@unaffiliated/iceknife] has joined #se2600 20:03 -!- mgalgoci [n=mgalgoci@adsl-065-005-196-076.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mgalgoci] by ChanServ 20:10 <@mgalgoci> rhia 20:19 -!- iceknife [n=iceknife@unaffiliated/iceknife] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:20 -!- Catonic [n=catonic@175-109.125-70.bham.res.rr.com] has quit ["..-.,"] 20:31 < ware> Evilpig: we r infekchutch 20:31 < ware> wifidog looks interesting 20:32 -!- _vapor_ [n=Jared@c-69-137-117-103.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:33 -!- sync350 [n=sync@adsl-232-116-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:43 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has joined #se2600 20:47 <@Evilpig> my goal for next week is to get a working captive portal setup on my free wireless network so that my marketing girls can push coffee, books, purses, etc onto ppl 20:48 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@c-68-48-1-160.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 20:49 < ware> werd 20:49 < ware> this going to be enterprise wide? for all the schools or something? 20:50 <@Evilpig> all our locations. none of the schools 20:50 < ware> gotcha 20:53 <@Evilpig> http://firewall.icscci.com/mrtg/ vlan7 21:11 -!- freakn [i=freakn@silenceisdefeat.com] has joined #se2600 21:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o freakn] by ChanServ 21:23 <@mgalgoci> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_chuancai5_080108_ssh.jpg 21:23 <@mgalgoci> he must have smoked a LOT of weed 21:53 < ware> rofl so bad 21:54 <@freakn> anyone here take any of the CompTIA cert tests? 21:54 < ware> bt4 been uploaded from shmoo to anywhere? 22:10 <@mgalgoci> bt4? 22:10 <@mgalgoci> wat? 22:13 < ware> backtrack 4 22:15 <@mgalgoci> I still don't know what that is :( 22:15 <@mgalgoci> damn kids 22:32 < Mercster> shut it, sally 22:32 <@Corydon76-dig> mgalgoci: Linux distribution specializing in various methods of attacking networks 22:35 <@Evilpig> freakn: A+ is still comptia right? 22:37 <@Dagmar> http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/rt_chuancai5_080108_ssh.jpgYep 22:37 <@Dagmar> er Yep 22:37 <@Evilpig> then yes 22:38 -!- peaches1984 [i=three@c-68-52-33-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:50 -!- PixlPunk [n=pixelpun@spam.hoops-lp.com] has quit ["NO CARRIER"] 23:13 -!- TheLightCosine [n=c0malod@c-98-211-40-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o TheLightCosine] by ChanServ 23:20 -!- timoguin [n=timd@24.179.84.231] has quit ["leaving"] 23:23 -!- timoguin [n=timd@24.179.84.231] has joined #se2600 23:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o timoguin] by ChanServ --- Log closed Sun Feb 08 00:00:03 2009