--- Log opened Thu Feb 05 00:00:03 2009
00:03 < CRasH180> I'm not sure if I want to know what toy you are talking about
00:05 <@Dagmar> It's not horrifyin or anything.  Just... deranged.
00:07 < CRasH180> I got that from the description.
00:07 < CRasH180> Did not sound like a kid friendly toy
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00:18 <@ShadowHntr> *cringe*
00:21 <@dasunt> Workplace security.
00:21 <@dasunt> So someone at work we sold a server to "accidentallY" promoted it to a DC.
00:21 <@dasunt> And fucked it up.
00:21 <@dasunt> Then attempted to reload it.
00:21 <@dasunt> It was 2003-x86.
00:22 <@dasunt> They used 64 bit drivers, or tried to.
00:22 <@dasunt> It was a FUCKING INTEL BOARD and they couldn't find the right drivers for it.
00:22 <@Dagmar> ...and the other DCs were configured to automatically allow any other DC to peer on equal footing?
00:22 <@dasunt> Damned if I know.
00:23 <@dasunt> I entered the room, noticed the peon was talking to him, realized the conversation was about how we sold him a defective POS (his jist), realized it wasn't my problem ATM, and left.
00:25 <@Dagmar> Charge him for the filesystem repair
00:25 <@Dagmar> ...and be sure and make a snapshot of the filesystem in case he threatens to sue.
00:26 <@dasunt> Oh, we reloaded.
00:26 <@dasunt> New server.
00:26 <@dasunt> I'm going to available tomorrow to hand the server back.
00:26 <@dasunt> Which is good.
00:26 <@dasunt> Since I think the peon will snap and kill him.
00:29 <@Dagmar> heheh
00:30 <@Dagmar> Seems like the financial crunch has made things riskier than usual for unqualified authority types, doesn't it?
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00:53 <@rhia> dasunt: the hardware you sold them was a POS because they tried incorrectly promote a DC?
00:53 <@rhia> or was the hardware shit - and the unfortunate DC promotion just a really stupid aggravation on top of that?
00:57 <@rhia> or do they not understand 64b arch - on a 32b system?
00:57  * rhia confused - stupid user - period
00:58 < Mercster> i vote that dasunt is bad at telling stories
00:58  * rhia hugs dasunt more $$$ for you guys
00:59 <@dasunt> rhia: Yep.
00:59 <@dasunt> rhia: It's our fault because they don't know their job.
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00:59 <@dasunt> Gawdamn, I appreciate the job security, but fuck, I shouldn't be this comfortable.
01:00 <@rhia> dasunt: of course is    ---not <g>
01:01 <@rhia> dasunt: spent enought time in the trenches - user idiocy always falls under the SEP field [see: Douglas Adams]
01:02 <@dasunt> Aye.
01:05 <@rhia> i had user's blame me for not being able to connect their laptops via a proprietary protocol - that they wouldn't give to support - so,
01:06 <@sdodson> HISSSSSSSSSSS
01:06 < Mercster> whoooaaaaa
01:06 <@sdodson> what?
01:06 < Mercster> noone knows
01:07 <@sdodson> ,e either
01:07 <@sdodson> need mare beerz
01:07 < Mercster> horse wine?
01:07 <@rhia> se had no idea of what they were trying to do with fucked up hybridized systems - with NO hints even on what should talk to them ....
01:07 <@sdodson> rhia: tits or gtfo
01:08 <@rhia> dasunt: finally told one that we weren't Independence Day, we can't make your lappie talk to the aliens w/o some idea of what they want
01:09 <@sdodson> rhia: will you be my wafeboock freiend
01:09 <@rhia> dasunt: "oooooh, ok, we need it to ......"
01:09 <@sdodson> facebook
01:09 <@rhia> sdodson: you can't handle the tits
01:09 <@sdodson> rhia: i won't know till i seees them
01:10 <@rhia> sdodson: and go drink a few glasses of water, you're slurring your IRC
01:10 <@sdodson> rhia: TITS!
01:10 <@sdodson> i'm so gonna get kicked by radgon
01:10 <@dasunt> rhia: I has that experience.
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01:11 <@rhia> sdodson: yes, i haz them, ask Drag0n for further info (tho he says they're ... nunya bizness)
01:11 <@sdodson> 01:15 -!- Irssi: Unknown command: jjjoin
01:11 <@rhia> sdodson: yes, i haz them, ask Drag0n for further info (tho he says they're ... nunya bizness)
01:11 <@sdodson> rhia: i duncare
01:11 < Mercster> teetaas
01:11 < Mercster> is the medical term
01:11 <@sdodson> youngtits old tits i wannem all
01:11 < Mercster> please
01:11 <@rhia> dasunt: PITA - i feel for you
01:11 <@sdodson> you fele for me too?!
01:11 < Mercster> rhia: we'll feel them FOR you
01:11 < Mercster> sdodson: too east
01:12 < Mercster> EASY
01:12 < Mercster> DAMNIT
01:12 <@dasunt> rhia: Not too bad.
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01:12 <@dasunt> Actually.
01:12  * dasunt puts up with abuse rather well.
01:12  * Mercster abuses dasunt 
01:12 <@sdodson> dasunt: you too
01:12 <@sdodson> tits or gtfo
01:12 <@rhia> sigh - evidently booze outweighs intelligence or even bare protocol tonight
01:12  * Mercster abuses dasunt's tits
01:12  * rhia waves off
01:12 < Mercster> BYE
01:12 <@rhia> dasunt: good luck tomorrow
01:13 <@dasunt> I don't have tits.  :(
01:13 < Mercster> dont be so down on yerself
01:13 <@sdodson> /bin/sh: !/bin/figlet: not found
01:14 < Mercster> sdodson: aaaaaahahahaha
01:14 < Mercster> figlet fail
01:14 <@sdodson>  _   _ _
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01:14 <@sdodson> | |_| | |_\__ \
01:14 <@sdodson>  \__|_|\__|___/
01:14 <@rhia> dasunt: abuse i can ignore, stupidity is - well, just plain stupid and not worthy of intelligent response
01:14 <@sdodson>                
01:14 <@rhia> g'nite
01:14 < Mercster> rhia: ya totally
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01:14 <@sdodson>  _ __ | |____
01:14 <@sdodson> | '_ \| |_  /
01:14 < Mercster> ill settle for buttholes
01:14 <@sdodson> | |_) | |/ /
01:14 <@sdodson> | .__/|_/___|
01:14 <@sdodson> |_|
01:14 <@sdodson> i should stop for corydon bans me and tries to feel me up
01:14 <@sdodson> now
01:15 <@sdodson> Mercster: ghay
01:15 <@sdodson> Mercster: we don't want no cock
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01:15 < Mercster> everytime i see a pretty girl the first thing i think is "i wonder what her butthole looks like"
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01:15 <@sdodson> i ha s join on macro
01:15 <@dasunt> :(
01:15 <@sdodson> dasunt: you get laid?
01:15 <@dasunt> Not at all.
01:15 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: you scaresz me
01:16 <@sdodson> dasunt: why not?
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01:16 <@dasunt> I'd rather not put up with the shit.
01:16 < Mercster> mm
01:16 < Mercster> wrong hole
01:16 < sdodson> wmy shit?
01:16 < Mercster> or RIGHT HOLE
01:16 < Mercster> just depends on how you like it
01:16 < sdodson> Mercster: THAT SOGROSSSSSS
01:16 <@dasunt> Right gender.  :/
01:17 < Mercster> i figure, as long as there's a little heat in there
01:17 < Mercster> hey
01:17 < Mercster> go for it
01:17 < sdodson> Mercster: what if they gots thr unz
01:17 < Mercster> gross
01:18 < sdodson> qinortiet
01:19 < Mercster> only on thursdays
01:19 < sdodson> 2ok
01:20 < sdodson> 25f out
01:20 < sdodson> cold
01:20 < sdodson> makes my hand hurt
01:20 < Mercster> 18F here
01:21 < Mercster> but my apartment is a balmy 64F
01:22 <@dasunt> sdodson: FUCK YOU YOU LITTLE PANSY ASS SOUTEHRNER.
01:22 < Mercster> YA
01:22 < Mercster> DO IT
01:23  * dasunt invokes wunderground.com
01:23 < sdodson> dasunt: :(
01:23 <@dasunt> 8.6°F out.
01:23 <@dasunt> And you know hwat, it is warm out!
01:23 <@dasunt> WARM!
01:23 < Mercster> thats cuz yer a yank
01:23 < Mercster> from the icy north
01:23 < sdodson> dasunt: stuf oyu may as well be candidhan
01:23 <@dasunt> I'm riding my bike to work tomorrow.
01:23 < Mercster> big deal
01:23 < sdodson> cause u sux
01:23 < Mercster> your nuts will freeze
01:24 <@dasunt> I need a better pair of pants for winter.
01:24 <@dasunt> But my nuts wont freeze.
01:24 <@dasunt> It's above 0.
01:30 < Mercster> ok dr wizard
01:31 < Mercster> wait thats mr wizard
01:31 < Mercster> that show was awesome
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01:39 <@Catonic> sdodson: sup mang
01:40 <@Catonic> check check one two
01:40 <@Catonic> sibilance sibilance ssssibilance
01:41 < Mercster> haha
01:44 < sdodson> Catonic: wtf?
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01:47 < Mercster> ssssssssssibilance
01:47 < Mercster> check one
01:47 < Mercster> check one
01:47 < Mercster> ssssssssssibilance
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01:57 <@dasunt> Catonic: Heya man.
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07:00 <@TheLightcosine> man it's quiet in here
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08:32  * critch makes some noise for TheLightcosine to be comfortable with.
08:52 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:53 <@Dolemite> critch : Just from playing with both for about 30 minutes each yesterday, I have to agree that Hyperic comes out slightly ahead of zenOSS
08:53 <@Dolemite> As I work with Hyperic more that gap may grow
08:53 <@Dolemite> will Hyperic work with just snmp and not their agent?
08:55 < critch> yes and no. You need a agent somewhere to collect the snmp
08:55 <@Dolemite> yeah, that's where zenOSS jumps ahead, but Hyperic has better metrics for the plugins that it has
08:56 < critch> Well, there is nothing stopping you from running the agent on the server
08:57 < critch> the agent also allows you to collect metrics into a single location behind a remote firewall and only have the 7433 and one other port(2163 or similar) for bi directional communication.
09:01 <@Dolemite> but it sure as hell is a memory hog
09:01 < critch> well, that is java for you
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09:14  * brimstone is not a memory hog
09:33 <@TheLightcosine> but your mom is
09:33 <@TheLightcosine> badumbish
09:39 <@TheLightcosine> *sigh*
09:40 <@TheLightcosine> a user is complaining that excel gives him an error message when he tries to save a document...that he opened in read-only mode
09:40 <@TheLightcosine> why do the IT gods torment me with stupid users
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09:46 <@I-MOD> TheLightcosine, you aren't killing the stupid ones fast enough, that's why
09:46 <@TheLightcosine> heeey i ghave a question for you actually
09:46 <@TheLightcosine> you ever psot an upload to piratebay imod?
09:47 <@I-MOD> no
09:47 <@I-MOD> though...i know one person who has
09:47 <@TheLightcosine> ah someone with the username imod uploaded a torrent i downloaded
09:47 <@I-MOD> piratebay is getting lame, though
09:47 <@TheLightcosine> which happens to not be working quite right
09:47 <@TheLightcosine> yeah it is getting harder to sift throguh the crap
09:48 <@TheLightcosine> i tend to just ignore anything without a vip or trusted logo now
09:48 <@I-MOD> their search functionality is somewhat broken, but the tagged stuff is fine
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09:59 <@TheLightcosine> i got this software and it's cracked, but i think the crack was specifically tailored for xp and won't work in vista
10:03 <@I-MOD> lame
10:06 < ware> wutup n00bz
10:06 <@TheLightcosine> yeah
10:07 <@TheLightcosine> i guess i'll need to try another torrent of it
10:07 < polerin> I like sporks.
10:07 < polerin> ;p
10:08 < polerin> (random day is random)
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10:11 < ware> polerin: cheesy ranch chicken breasts?
10:13 < ware> man for some reason i have voicemails down to a time limit
10:13 < ware> i leave msgs all the time with exactly a 1 minute call time
10:13 < ware> ALL the time
10:13 < ware> freaky.
10:15 < ware> http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=272735
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10:33 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
10:33 <@nachoguy> also, I hate people
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10:57 < ware> hey, anyone specialize in data recovery or have information for me about it?
10:57 < ware> ive got a sata drive that wont spin up and has some datums i need to recover for a client
10:57 < ware> and id rather do it myself than pay a company to do it
10:58 < ware> im assuming there may be a piece of hardware involved but seems like there may be some software or bootable os that can run diags or force it to recognize
10:59 < iceknife> ware try Runtime Software GetDataBack for NTFS
11:02 < ware> ahh yeah i think thats on Hirens bcd
11:02 < ware> i will try, thanks j00
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11:31 < ware> stunnel + synergy = win
11:31 < ware> anybody haxin' anything cool today
11:32 < ware> or are we all zombied out surfing the web
11:33 <@TheLightcosine> i'm getting killed at work this week
11:33 <@TheLightcosine> we're even more shortstaffed than usual and evertything's blowing up
11:33 <@TheLightcosine> we had a major checkpoint firewall 1 issue earlier that caused serious problems  with some of the vpns
11:34 <@TheLightcosine> that combined with the snow in the uk on monday  just set the pace for the whole week
11:34 <@TheLightcosine> i've been consistantly an hour behind in my work the entire week
11:40 <@oddball> ware, while I'm not hacking anything right now, I'm sorely tempted to get an eee Box and one of these: http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-740
11:41 <@oddball> I do want to revisit the whole car PC thing
11:41 <@brimstone> oddball: that's interesting!
11:42 <@oddball> $200 for a 7" touchscreen with built-in webcam and mic is damn interesting.
11:42 <@TheLightcosine> i so want a foss car =P
11:42 <@brimstone> oddball: linuxable?
11:43 < ware> oddball: actually i want to do a carpc in the saab
11:43 <@TheLightcosine> i wanna do a carpc ina Yaris
11:43 <@TheLightcosine> so i can call it the iCar
11:43 < ware> we could collaboratez
11:43 <@TheLightcosine> the damn thing already looks like it was made by apple
11:43 <@oddball> Don't know, but, from what I've read, windows is probably the best choice for carPC software.
11:44 <@oddball> ware, I was unaware that you have a SAAB
11:44 <@brimstone> the 710 is rotatable...
11:44 < ware> i need my display to be removable too so that may work out
11:44 < ware> oddball: yeah just got it, truck broke :(  and then the saab blew a radiator hose and we fixed that yesterday
11:44 < ware> and since it overheated we're thinking the head gasket is blown
11:44 <@oddball> ouch
11:44 < ware> so we're fixing that this weekend.  but its been my dads little project car for a few months and i bought it from him
11:45 < ware> just about everything has been replaced to new, all sorts of sensors and components and pumps and hoses
11:45 <@oddball> Of course, I'm in the middle of buying a house, so I can't really get into any projects right now.
11:45 < ware> what i would like to have setup is a website with all sorts of information
11:46 <@TheLightcosine> i wanna wire up a good touchscreen linux carpc, with wifi wired up to an external vehcile mounted antennna so nobody would even know the difference heh
11:46 < ware> so i get in and start driving and the carpc updates a webcam image / current car specs / gps / etc
11:46 <@TheLightcosine> no sitting in the car with your laptop lookin suspicious
11:46 < ware> just goto warescarpc.com and have it all listed for lulz
11:47 <@TheLightcosine> ware: heh why would you want people to be able to track you like that though
11:47 < ware> i just stated, for lulz
11:47 < ware> i like to be stalked?
11:47 <@oddball> Of course, I might go with using one of my netbooks early on.  They slip easily under the driver's seat of my Volvo.
11:47 < ware> could use my laptop
11:47 <@TheLightcosine> hrm, now i regret not more actively pursuing doing carkit installs when i wroked for VZW heh
11:48 <@TheLightcosine> that knowledge would be so handy right now
11:48 <@TheLightcosine> all i ever got was the basic training course, never got sent to help do one heh
11:48 <@oddball> I'm going to have to talk to WizardPC about this.
11:50 <@brimstone> what's the resolution on the eeepc 10" screen?
11:51 <@oddball> I want to say it's the same as the 9"
11:53 <@brimstone> 1024 x 600, yup, same as the 9"
11:53 <@brimstone> so sayth the wiki
11:54 <@brimstone> man, it would be cool to get the eeepc t101H and two mimo 710s, one for each side
11:54 <@brimstone> that should still be less then $1k
11:55 <@brimstone> that has more pixels then a 1280x1024 screen
11:55 <@TheLightcosine> does linux have built in multi-touch support yet?
11:56 <@brimstone> the wacom drivers have touch and stylus support
11:56 <@brimstone> i dunno about multi-touch though
11:57 <@TheLightcosine> MPX multitouch apparently
11:57 <@TheLightcosine> still need some sort of keyboard tho
11:57 <@TheLightcosine> maybe one of those 'projected keybaords though
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11:58 < PixlPunk> hi hi
12:03 <@TheLightcosine> hello
12:04 <@TheLightcosine> oddball: i'm thinknig you could just totally remove the glvoebox in the right kind of car and build a concealing rig
12:04 <@oddball> Yes, but I actually use that storage space
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12:04 <@TheLightcosine> have the main unit secure form udner the bottom, and have some sort of flip out type thing for the display
12:05 <@TheLightcosine> well the other option is to really rip up your center console
12:05 <@TheLightcosine> or put it on the dash whcih screams "steal me"
12:05 < PixlPunk> unixfg told me about you all here, so i came over to check it out
12:05 <@oddball> As for multi-touch, it does enough to deal with scrolling on the eee PC.  I haven't seen any other multi-touch feature though.
12:05 <@someninjamaster> oddball: whats wizardpc's e-mail address
12:05 <@TheLightcosine> really just touchscreen is enoguh , multi-touch would jsut be fun
12:06 <@TheLightcosine> welcom PixlPunk
12:06 <@oddball> someninjamaster, uhhhhh.... not sure off the top of my head, I usually text him. :p
12:06 <@someninjamaster> i didnt think about that
12:07 <@TheLightcosine> imagine with a high gain car antenna how much range you could egt off the wifi heh
12:07 <@TheLightcosine> i mean if you kept moving, you'd probably have some issues with dopplering
12:07 <@oddball> Well, that's where tethering my phone to the system would come in.
12:07 <@brimstone> from what i understand, you only have dopplering issues at near light speed
12:07 < PixlPunk> TheLightcosine: thanks
12:07 <@TheLightcosine> brim: nah 60mph can do it
12:08 <@TheLightcosine> TDMA sued to have slgiht dopplering issues
12:08 <@TheLightcosine> forget how they got arround it
12:08 <@brimstone> with 2.4GHz wifi?
12:08 <@TheLightcosine> oh i dunno about wifi
12:08 <@brimstone> wait, what are you talking about?
12:08 <@brimstone> cell data?
12:08 <@TheLightcosine> i gotcha, you meant specifically for 2.4ghz spectrum
12:09 <@TheLightcosine> brim: yes i was using cellular as my point of reference because that's what i know
12:10 <@oddball> I can personally confirm that 3G cellular data has no issues at 70mph.
12:11 <@oddball> (or at least, nothing the end user could notice)
12:11 <@tzanger> heh
12:11 <@TheLightcosine> heh i saw an episode of CSI:Ny the other day where they were chasing a killer in second life and they were "tracing his ip" lol, and he was bouncing between different APs and eyt somehow still maintaining a conenction, switching off networks, lol =P
12:11 <@TheLightcosine> oddball: no 3g doesn't
12:11 <@TheLightcosine> TDMA did, and only slightly
12:12 <@TheLightcosine> oh yeah, and they "pinged his ip" to get his address =P
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12:13 <@brimstone> "For example, a car traveling toward the transmitter at 100 kilometers an hour with a 900 MHz carrier frequency would experience an 83.4 Hz Doppler shift on the signal." http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_rf_testing_worth/
12:13 <@TheLightcosine> and later they had another one where this guy invented a tuxedo that could auto-hax a wifi entwork and download all the data on the computers =P
12:13 <@TheLightcosine> http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_rf_testing_worth/
12:13 <@TheLightcosine> gah
12:13 <@TheLightcosine> sorry
12:14 <@brimstone> according to that test at least, there is doppler shift, but it's minimal
12:15 <@TheLightcosine> brim, i beleive that is what i said?
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12:16 <@brimstone> me too?
12:16 <@TheLightcosine> there were slight issues, because of Dppler Shift and Relative path Delay in tdma,m in fast moving vehcile ebcause of the way tdma works , subdividng covnersations, however it was never signifigant enoguh to say, drop you into the wrong covnersation
12:16 <@TheLightcosine> as far as the math behind that i don't know
12:17 <@TheLightcosine> i was jsut a tech not an engineer heh
12:17 <@brimstone> eh, i thought and still do think that you won't have problems with dopplering on cell or wifi at any reasonably attainable speed
12:17 <@TheLightcosine> theQA engineer for our region knew shit about RF that i'd never even heard of
12:17 <@brimstone> for wardriving, it's more of a sample speed problem then
12:19 <@TheLightcosine> well, depending on how much range you got out of the antenna should mitigate that some
12:19 <@TheLightcosine> now if yer on the freeway doing 70, forget it
12:19 <@nachoguy> http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mac-os-x-touchscreen-driver-for-mimo-740
12:19 <@nachoguy> $30 for the driver if you're a mac user
12:20 <@TheLightcosine> yeah but macs are l4m3 =P
12:20 <@TheLightcosine> j/k
12:22 <@oddball> yeah... charging extra for the driver is bullshit.
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12:31 <@M0j0-j0j0> Irongeek: hey hey!
12:32 < Irongeek> Hello. :)
12:32 < Irongeek> Guess I should ask this here too.
12:32 < Irongeek> How much is it to attend Outerz0ne?
12:33 <@M0j0-j0j0> ugg
12:33 <@M0j0-j0j0> ow ow!!!! I don't know the answer to that BUT!!!!
12:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> they finally got the hotel info up :)!!!!!
12:35 < Irongeek> Cool, hope to see you there.
12:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> now if I could just recall the location it was at last year I could call up and cancel my reservation
12:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> Irongeek: if I had to guess I would plan on it being about $75
12:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> I think that was the cost of PN
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12:37 <@Dolemite> M0j0-j0j0 : If I recall correctly, outerzone has always been free, but donation requested
12:38 <@Dolemite> Hyatt Place Atlanta Galleria was last year
12:39 <@Dolemite> wasn't it?
12:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes
12:39 < Irongeek> Thanks. Off to class now. :)
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12:40 <@Corydon76-dig> I've been trying to convince someone that the directors of a corporation can't be involved in software piracy, for the protection of the corporation
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12:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Yet the president wants to have his warez server
12:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Any advice?
12:43 <@Corydon76-dig> (short of making a phone call to the BSA)
12:43 <@Dolemite> depends - is that director involved in software piracy in the scope of their job / while at work / using company resources?
12:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Using company resources, yes
12:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Company servers and company bandwidth
12:45 <@Dolemite> I'd talk to someone in the following areas (if they exist):  Network Security, Public Affairs, Legal, CEO
12:46 <@Corydon76-dig> It's the president of the corporation, and none of those other positions exist
12:46 <@Corydon76-dig> small corporation
12:46 <@Dolemite> okey dokey then
12:47 <@Dolemite> well, you are out of options
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Convince the other directors is pretty much it?
12:48 <@Dolemite> yup
12:48 <@Corydon76-dig> okey dokey
12:48 <@TheLightcosine> ouch
12:49 <@TheLightcosine> sux0r position
12:49 <@nachoguy> Corydon, tell Mark to cut it out =>
12:49 <@Corydon76-dig> My concern is one of self preservation... I'm a member of the corporation, and it would suck to be implicated in a criminal conspiracy
12:50 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: not that corporation
12:50 <@nachoguy> I figured
12:51 <@TheLightcosine> tell him to crack pr0n sites instead if he needs a hobby ;P
12:52 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightcosine: not with company resources
12:52 <@TheLightcosine> well if yer smart, you can almost never get caught
12:52 < Synx_> anyone play with windows 7?
12:52 <@TheLightcosine> synx: only a little bit
12:52 <@TheLightcosine> got it set ona  virtualbox at home
12:52 <@TheLightcosine> been too busy to do much with it
12:52 < Synx_> wonder if its ready to use as my primary os on my netbook
12:52 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightcosine: it's the 'almost' part that worries me
12:53 <@TheLightcosine> Corydon76-dig: point
12:53 <@TheLightcosine> i never deal in absolutes tho
12:53 <@TheLightcosine> =P
12:53 <@TheLightcosine> so i always have that "margin for error" built in
12:54 <@rhia> does he have a significant other you can scare, er, talk to about the consequences?
12:54 <@TheLightcosine> even the laws of physics aren't right 100% of the time
12:54 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightcosine: plus, if someone was mad at us, it'd be one phone call away from the company shut down and assets seized
12:54  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
12:54 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: that's one possible tack
12:55 <@TheLightcosine> well quittin time
12:55 <@TheLightcosine> cyall when i get home =P
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13:03 <@Drag0n`> you can put a warez item on his server that has a major virus that will wipe his laptop after releasing his personal information to the company
13:04 < PixlPunk> Corydon76-dig: whip up a cease and desist letter from your broadband carrier
13:05 < eryc> companies dont shut down if they get caught with warez
13:05 < PixlPunk> or just use one of the accounts that has full rights to the warez and nuke them all and tag it as if you were a nuker
13:06 < PixlPunk> a small business might if the ceo was also the owner
13:08 < ware> http://lifehacker.com/5145421/windows-7-gets-customized
13:09 < ware> sweeeet
13:12 <@Drag0n`> mention to him you heard of other people getting payed 50% of the fines by the BSA to report license viloations, and how many people in the company that are aware of it.....does he trust them all with that much money?
13:13 <@oddball> Corydon76-dig, have it well documented that you protested over his behavior.
13:13 <@Drag0n`> http://blawg.bsadefense.com/2007/07/business_software_alliance_to.html
13:14 < eryc> http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/ODD_EVANGELIZING_THEFTS
13:14 <@Drag0n`> especialy now in the hard economy, the BSA and its member corps are looking for income from ANY possible source
13:17 <@oddball> Yeah, the BSA is often the nuclear option when leaving a company that you hate.
13:17 < PixlPunk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCTn4FljUQ
13:23 <@nachoguy> even if they're clean, the ordeal of going through the audit for licenses is time and money consuming
13:24 < Synx_> whats a good tool to create a drive image in linux, i need to take a image of my ubuntu install before i whipe it out
13:27 <@someninjamaster> dd
13:28 < Synx_> i was hoping nobody would say dd
13:28 < PixlPunk> wasn't there a writeup on dd in the most recent 2600?
13:28 <@someninjamaster> dd is an awesome program
13:28 <@someninjamaster> because pretty much any data recover and forensic software can work with it
13:29 < Synx_> wont dd copy empty space?
13:29 <@someninjamaster> i think it does
13:29 < Synx_> i need to take a drive image and put it on a FAT32 usb drive :(
13:30 <@someninjamaster> ???
13:30 <@someninjamaster> why
13:30 <@someninjamaster> incase and ftk imager i think will break an image down into 4gb files
13:31 < ware> yeah dd is win
13:31 < ware> throw it a few flags and youre good to go
13:31 < Synx_> because i am doing this on my netbook
13:31 < Synx_> and i dont want to have to keep 32gb of empty space in an image file sitting around
13:32 < ware> where were you planning on keeping the image / backup of otherwise?
13:32 < GodFix[HC]> http://www.kontraband.co.uk/pics/15493/Lie-Of-Omission/
13:32 < GodFix[HC]> SFW
13:33 < Synx_> i am going to move it to my desktop but i do not need a drive image of 3gb worth of stuff with 30gb of empty partition
13:33 <@Drag0n`> http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/backupandimage.shtml
13:36 < Synx_> i may just use and old ass copy of ghost
13:37 < Synx_> damn it vista file sharing is a pain in my ass
13:37 < critch> Synx_: you can cat the drive itself, and pipe to gzip or bzip2 even, and then store that output.  cat /dev/sdc | bzip2 -9 > big-usb-drive.img.bz2
13:38 < critch> technically you have stored the free space, and worse, if it had been written to and not zeroed, it still will have data there. Benefit is you have compression.
13:39 < Synx_> shrug
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13:41 < Synx_> partimage
13:41 < Synx_> here we go
13:41 < Synx_> time to try windows 7 on the aspire one
13:41 < Synx_> i hope i dont have the same MBR issues i am having with grub :(
13:50 <@oddball> grub was giving you issues with your aspire one?
13:50 < Synx_> yes in a bad way
13:50 <@oddball> huh... didn't have any issues with mine
13:50 < Synx_> but i think it has to do with the compact flash to ZIFF adapter i have
13:50 < Synx_> not the stock SSD
13:51 <@oddball> gotcha
13:51 < Synx_> very sucky problems
13:51 < Synx_> both grub and lilo work about 10% of the time and its random no changes fix it, just wait a bit longer try and boot again and bam it works
13:52 <@oddball> Yeah... I'm going to guess that's a hardware issue.
13:52 < Synx_> cant figure out why though... and it seems there are a few others out there having similar issues booting from CF
13:53 < Synx_> :(
13:53 < Synx_> hope NTLDR or what ever 7 uses will work
13:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> what they really need for netbooks is no built in storage and 2 SD slots
13:54 < Synx_> ive got 2 sd slots but the fucking thing wont boot of them :(
13:54 <@oddball> well, the Aspire One has 2 SD slots... you could just remove the internal.
13:55 <@oddball> I would guess it's your adapter
13:55 < Synx_> just odd that when it boots it boots just fine
13:55 < Synx_> lilo is giving me a sector flag error and gurb just says error
13:56 <@oddball> There's probably a loose solder point or something... somewhere...
13:56 < PixlPunk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TefPAkIAz9E
13:56 < Synx_> its a fairly consistant problem though, what i think ive found thus far is with lilo on a cold boot it will not work... if i let it sit at the lilo menu for about 3-5min and tell it to boot it works juts fine
13:57 <@oddball> I've seen hardware issue behave just like that
13:57 < Synx_> seems to me like a speed issue with the adapter not boot strapping itself in time for normal system boot up
13:57 <@oddball> when it's cold, no connection, let it warm up some... connection!
13:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> maybe I'll back up my eee and see if I can make it always boot of my SD card... would be awesome for changing systems quickly.. then you could use the internal 4G as your home directory.. or your My Documents directory depending on OS
13:58 < Synx_> might also be the ziff cable that i hacked and bent backwards to get it to work with the adapter hehe
13:58 <@oddball> mmm.... colud be
13:58 <@oddball> seriouslly... find some loose change in the couch and go buy an SD card.
13:58 < Synx_> i need to open the thing up anyways to solder a mini bluetooth adapter to it
13:58 < Synx_> oddball, i still cant boot of the sd
13:58 <@oddball> then buy a thunb drive?
13:59 <@oddball> er thumb drive
13:59 < Synx_> not a good solution i got this to be small not have a usb drive sticking out the side
13:59 < Synx_> although i am betting here has got to be a way to get grub up or even a linux kernel in ram to boot of the sd
14:00 <@oddball> So, you fuxxored the internal drive?
14:01 < Synx_> no i had the 8gb SSD which is slow as balls and removed it and put in a CF to ZIF adapter and a 36gb 300X CF card
14:01 <@oddball> ah
14:01 < Synx_> i did that before i ever turned the thing on for the first time hehe
14:03 < PixlPunk> http://www.money.co.uk/article/1002745-public-conned-by-fake-parking-tickets-in-first-real-world-hacker-scam.htm
14:04 <@oddball> Synx_, step 1: make sure everything works before voiding warantee.
14:04 < Synx_> well i did a quick power on but didn't use it for more than 10min to double check the wifi and other stuff
14:04 < Synx_> so i lied a bit
14:04 < Synx_> http://canwest.a.mms.mavenapps.net/mms/rt/1/site/canwest-globaledmonton-pub01-live/current/launch.html?maven_playerId=troubleshootermedium&maven_referralObject=3475882
14:04 < Synx_> ~minilink
14:05 < ware> anyone here use truecrypt for entire volume encryption?
14:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: used to
14:06 < ware> im having some issue mounting the volume when dual-booted / usb booted
14:06 <@oddball> I haven't for an entire volume
14:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> I never tried to boot of an encrypted volume.. I wouldn't expect that to work
14:08 <@oddball> Synx_, oh noes! you being a fat ass driving a compact car can cause problems!
14:08 < ware> ive got that working fine, but im booting into backtrack that is installed on my usb thumbdrive and need to mount the disk
14:09 <@oddball> I thought the idea of her sitting in the car while they do the alignment was a resonable suggestion.
14:09 < ware> it apparently see's it but its saying incorrect password, so im checking the enc method
14:09 < Synx_> oddball, ya hehe i dont have anythign thing against big people but wtf lady, you drive a tiny car made for tiny koren people wtf did you think was going to happen.  doing an alignment with her in the car is the perfect solution
14:10 <@oddball> being insensitive would be suggesting she go get liposuction.
14:10 <@M0j0-j0j0> fat people need love too...
14:10 <@M0j0-j0j0> they eat all the love they had already
14:10 < Synx_> indeed and thats why boys or girls can look the other way
14:10 <@M0j0-j0j0> s/eat/ate
14:11 < Synx_> physics however cannot
14:11 <@oddball> On the other hand, she would be just fine if she had a second fat person in the passenger seat.
14:11 < Synx_> she needs balist weight
14:11 <@oddball> Or just threw a  few weights in on the other side of the care to even the weight out.
14:11 < Synx_> oh man i feel bad laughing at this woman
14:11 <@M0j0-j0j0> well.. if the car was on an infinitely large frictionless pool table it wouldn't have these issues
14:12 <@oddball> Damn you Synx_ for thinking of a shorter way of saying what I'm typing! :p
14:12 < Synx_> :)
14:12 <@oddball> M0j0-j0j0, Actually, the way some powertrains work, it could be worse.
14:13 <@oddball> wait... frictionless... the car would go anywhere, so nevermind. :)
14:13 <@oddball> s/would/wouldn't
14:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> well.. if you started it going in the correct direction it would keep going in that direction
14:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> it was a shitty physics joke
14:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> my bad
14:14 < Synx_> oh and she would have the added benifit of not needing to replace brake pads once a month
14:14 <@oddball> heh
14:14 < Synx_> god i am a horrid person
14:15 < Synx_> oh and i mispelled ballast
14:16 < critch> hehe, Tax money means new phone time for me,
14:16  * critch eyes new E71 Nokia
14:16 <@Drag0n`> her monthy pad replacement program? does the car get cranky too?
14:17 <@M0j0-j0j0> only when it leaks
14:17 <@Dolemite> critch : Have you written any SNMP plugins for hyperic?
14:18 < critch> yes, I wrote the asterisk one
14:18 <@M0j0-j0j0> but for her it is cramped up all the time
14:18 <@Dolemite> Do you put the plugin just on the server or also on the agent?
14:18 <@Dolemite> or rather, the MIB
14:18 < critch> mib only needs to be on the agent side.
14:18 <@Dolemite> does it go anywhere besides in /usr/share/snmp/mibs?
14:18 < critch> the 'plugin' xml file needs to be on both sides
14:19 <@Dolemite> aha, where does it go on the agent side?
14:19 < critch> just /usr/share/snmp/mibs
14:19 <@Dolemite> no, the plugin.xml file
14:20 < critch> ohh, you can place it in hyperic-hq-agent-x.x.x/../hyperic-pdk
14:20 <@Dolemite> yeah the online docs only reference the server side
14:21 < critch> That allows for the pdk dir to live on even during software upgrades
14:21 <@M0j0-j0j0> soo.. with all the people I've seen spend all the time they have on asterisk... why don't we have a mobile phone service called "31337++" yet.. and when it comes around.. can you make sure that it supports nationwide 3G?
14:21 <@rhia> all they should have done is load some weight into the driver seat - she's never know and the alignment would be closer to correct
14:21 < Synx_> why did verizon start calling its evdo 3G
14:22 < critch> Or better yet, if they just installed some spring rubbers on the drivers side to add preload to the springs and reduce the sag when she gets in, it will be better.
14:22 < Synx_> am i incorrect in that 3G references the GSM technology (not that 3rd generation couldn't be use for anything else)
14:22 <@Dolemite> You are incorrect.  3G can be either CDMA or GSM.
14:23 < Synx_> did not know that
14:23 <@oddball> rhia, I think you mean passenger seat, and yeah... that would have worked.
14:23 < Synx_> Dolemite, so is 3G just some kind of standard data rate (speeds)?
14:23 <@rhia> to figure out how to align when she's driving, weight the driver seat
14:23 <@oddball> ah, ok
14:23 <@Dolemite> it's the 3rd Generation deployment of wireless services
14:24 <@Dolemite> it's just a wrapper, like "broadband"
14:24 < Synx_> i thought it in some way included some standard, shrug
14:24 <@Dolemite> more marketing term than technical spec
14:24 < Synx_> is EvDO faster than GSM 3G at this point?
14:24 < critch> Alignment with extra weight in the seat only will make some of the geometry better, problem is the sag is moving the suspension past it's normal state. It needs stronger springs to compensate for her weight being offset. This will return normal ride height and range of motion.
14:25 < Synx_> err EvDO faster than HSUPA that is
14:26 <@Dolemite> haven't been keeping up with it to know
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14:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> So.. is Virginia Ave in Atlanta the ho stroll?
14:27 <@Dolemite> it's not the best part of town, that's for sure
14:27 <@Dolemite> You can get a really nice purple suit in your size, though
14:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: my size? what are you trying to say ;)
14:28 < GodFix[HC]> that you can get a really nice purple suit there
14:28 < Synx_> i wish there was a way to get an EVDO modem and attach it to my cell ESN so i didn't have to pay for another contract instead of tethering my netbook to my phone
14:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: so this hotel is going to result in you telling me time and time again not to go walking around after dark?
14:28 < GodFix[HC]> just like PN?
14:28 <@Shadow404> exactly like pn
14:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> GodFix[HC]: yeah
14:28 <@Dolemite> GodFix[HC] : There are no good places to buy a large purple suit near the Days Inn Airport, thank you.
14:29 <@M0j0-j0j0> tee hee
14:29 <@Shadow404> great a bunch of hackers in walking distance of an airport, this will go well
14:29 <@Dolemite> er, Days Inn Coliseum
14:29 <@M0j0-j0j0> well. the Salvation Army store was right near Days Inn
14:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> (I wouldn't know that if I hadn't gone walking around after dark trying to get shot)
14:31 <@oddball> hey, at least you weren't one of the morons that decided it would be fun to set off fireworks in the parking lot a few years ago.. were you?
14:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> "The rooms are clean, and the entire hotel is newly renovated. The girls at the front desk were very nice and helpful. Airport shuttle runs every 20 minutes starting at 5 am. No continental breakfast"
14:34 < GodFix[HC]> NO BREAKFAST!!!!!!
14:37 <@M0j0-j0j0> that's the only good review... but it's also the only review in the last 6 months so...
14:38 <@M0j0-j0j0> I gather that before the renovation it was pretty bad
14:44 <@oddball> I don't know... if I can't have my watered-down orange juice and stale doughnut...
14:44 < ware> http://backtrack4.blogspot.com/2009/02/backtrack-4-beta-goodness-ready-for.html
14:44 < ware> anyone @ shmoo grab me a copy of that would ya
14:53 <@rhia> http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/02/03/myspace.sex.offenders/index.html
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14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: I'm skeptical
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: I think the real headline is, Myspace knocks off 5,000 sex offenders and 85,000 professional adults who work with kids.
14:58 <@Drag0n`> more like myspace knocks of 90k random accounts based on e-mail addresses provided by questionable source
15:00 <@rhia> i was kind of leaning towards what Drag0n said
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15:01 <@Drag0n`> hmm, incoming supoena, identify 90k accounts that havent been changed in over 2 years, scrub em and delete em, then say they were sexual preditors, oh and make sure they are 95% males
15:02 <@brimstone> Draw 3 from the Buzzwords Stack
15:02 <@Drag0n`> see, were doing our part.......to lower our storage costs
15:02 <@brimstone> "State of the art" "new age" "facebook"
15:11 <@rhia> and now one from facebook
15:11 <@rhia> http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/18641625/detail.html
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15:14 <@brimstone> man, if you're gonna get caught doing something "sexually offending" at least be attractive or victimize someone attractive so the news story is more exciting
15:15 <@Drag0n`> normaly, if your attractive, you dont have to force people quite as much
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15:16 <@Drag0n`> i wonder how many accounts this guy had on myspace <g>
15:16 <@scoil> [14:20:31] <@scoil> p
15:16 <@scoil> plz dont ddos no more
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15:51 < PixlPunk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn-e1g4vOak
15:51 < PixlPunk> too f'n funny
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16:00 <@brimstone> score, got another car warrenty scam
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16:00 <@Shadow404> scoil: scoil.diaf.snsweather.com
16:01 <@brimstone> huh, talking, sounds busy in the background
16:01 <@brimstone> got to a real person
16:02 <@brimstone> got flagged and hung up on rather quickly
16:05 <@Drag0n`> flagged? what did you say?
16:05 <@brimstone> "why do you people keep calling me?"
16:06 <@brimstone> "i'm sorry sir, your number has been added to our do not call list blah bla hblah blah blah scripted response #3"
16:06 <@Drag0n`> you say "the number called is a cell phone and on the do not call list, this is in viloation of the law and you will give me your contact information to make things easier for you"
16:07 <@Drag0n`> hehe
16:07 <@brimstone> will do, next time
16:07 <@Drag0n`> puts you on the high priority do not call under penalty of flogging list
16:10 < ware> rhia: lol he needs to go back to mexico
16:14 <@scoil> Shadow404 gimme a AAAA record
16:20 <@Shadow404> for what?
16:20 <@Shadow404> scoil: scoil.diaf.snsweather.com
16:21 <@scoil> coil.diaf.snsweather.com
16:21 <@Corydon76-dig> For him to give you an address, you'd have to have an IPv6 address already
16:21 <@scoil> yeah im working on that
16:21 <@Corydon76-dig> It's not a magic number that he can just give you.  It needs to be routed correctly for it to have any effect
16:21 <@scoil> trying to ssh to my box
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16:41 < Synx_hm> oh noes
16:41 < Synx_hm> windows 7 says... Windows cannot be installed to Disk 0 Partition 1
16:42 <@I-MOD> it's preventing you from making a tragic mistake :D
16:42 <@I-MOD> best windows yet
16:42 < Synx_hm> haha
16:44 <@Shadow404> lawl
16:44 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: exactly what you said
16:44 <@Shadow404> giz me an ipv6 #
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16:45 < Synx_hm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAMJgRhTNc&fmt=18
16:45 < Synx_hm> great frech airforce vid
16:45 < Synx_hm> some great shots in the air
16:46 < Synx_hm> not amature stuff
16:50 < ware> photoshop
16:54 < ware> actually thats pretty pimp
16:54 < Synx_hm> man i wanted to fly f15's so bad
16:54 < Synx_hm> was so close too
16:55 < Synx_hm> oh well the B52 is still pimp as fuck
16:55 <@brimstone> Shadow404: 7
16:56 <@Shadow404> 7 what?
16:56 <@brimstone> you wanted an ipv6 #
16:56 < ware> internets
16:56 <@brimstone> i give you, 7
16:56 <@Shadow404> lawl
16:59 <@Drag0n`> i wanted to fly apache's, or even the comanche. still want to learn to fly a fling wing one day
17:04 < Synx_hm> do et!
17:04 <@Drag0n`> you paying for the license?
17:05 < Synx_hm> hehe
17:06 <@scoil> wow that was fucking annoying, all of a sudden my dns dies
17:07 <@Feltenix> don't they have a pill for that?
17:07 <@scoil> fuck it im not even going to explain
17:07 <@scoil> cuz im just going to get bullshit comments like what was just said
17:07 <@Feltenix> yeah
17:13 <@Shadow404> scoil: scoil.diaf.snsweather.com
17:14 <@Drag0n`> bullshit statements get bullshit comments
17:16 <@scoil> well i wont bother typing it out
17:16 < ware> scoil: doot i was gonna help lol
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17:20 < ware> LOLMAYONAISE
17:27 < Synx_hm> OMGWTFBBQ!!!
17:28 < Synx_hm> windows 7 seems to have no trouble booting on the CF while grub and lilo shit their pants
17:28 < Synx_hm> :(
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17:30 < ware> LILO
17:30 < ware> AND STICH
17:31 < ware> OH SHIT THE CAPS IS STUCK SUMBUDY HALP MEH MAHN
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17:46 < Falun> ware: try a mango
17:47 < ware> i could go for a mango
17:49 < Synx_hm> mango fruit rocks
17:49 <@brimstone> what philosophy is all "no original thought" ?
17:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> everyone loves Mango
17:50 <@brimstone> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c321/lauragerhold/Mango.jpg
17:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> brimstone: you and I watch way too many of the same shows
17:51 <@brimstone> :o
17:56 <@Shadow404> go get a fucking room together with a bigscreen why dont ya
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17:57 <@brimstone> apparently not everyone likes mango
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18:00 < Shadow404> apparently not
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18:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> alright kids.. I'm off the the fabric store since a water pipe busted in my art gallery... and then it's off to the gym
18:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> peace
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19:18 < eryc> idnl mango
19:25 <@Jagobah> hey I have power again
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20:32 < uSynx> EWF rocks
20:32 <@mgalgoci> uSux
20:34 < uSynx> you smell funny
20:39 < AstralSin> blah, anyone have a copy of hp smartstart?
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20:48 < scott_> meow
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20:52 <@mgalgoci> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snkGhWFV2a4
20:52 <@mgalgoci> 
20:54 <@sdodson> I had to watch some international films in college. One of them had a radio controlled car with a dildo on it that chased girls around.
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21:46 <@Catonic_lp> sdodson: I somehow doubt the university police would be amused at that.
21:46 <@Catonic_lp> I, on the other hand, would be very amused to drive such a vehicle around the dorms
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23:19 < kidvicious> hello all
23:19 <@brimstone> nice hostmask
23:19 < kidvicious> thnx
23:20 < kidvicious> so how is the hackerspace coming along?
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23:25 <@brimstone> pretty well it seems
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