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00:03 < DagmarX> Well, I'll sort it once I get home.  It's just a little annoying to get disconnected from the house since I was actually reading through a manual.
00:03 < DagmarX> That'll teach ME to try and larn things.
00:04 <@rhia> esp at work
00:04 < DagmarX> Yep
00:04 < DagmarX> I suppose now I also know that Mibbit's IRC client is particularly unhelpful in the format it reports CTCP replies
00:05 <+eryc> lol ctcp
00:05 < DagmarX> Cablemodem may have frozen over.
00:05 < DagmarX> I don't remember if I had BitchX set to ignore pings from anyone but the server or not
00:06 < DagmarX> Freakin' 10F.
00:06 < DagmarX> we're almost to 9F (the predicted low)
00:07 <+eryc> heh its actually warmer up here
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00:07  * eryc basks in 15.8d weather
00:08 <+eryc> the low tomorrow night is 2
00:09 <+eryc> as much as i'd like to enjoy the extra bar hours in DC i'm afraid my balls will not allow me suffer thru such temperatures
00:09 < DagmarX> Time to call the local politico's office and tell them we desperately need a thermal bailout
00:12 <+eryc> aww i missed the free ice cream
00:12 < DagmarX> Oh wait, the low of 9F is *tomorrow* night
00:13 < DagmarX> My mistake.  The predicted low tonight is actually 2F.
00:13 < DagmarX> LIke that's going to make a goddamn difference to anyone stuck in it.
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00:21 <@dasunt> I think I'm going to become gay.
00:21 <@dasunt> Not really for the gay sex thing, but otherwise.
00:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
00:24 <@Corydon76-dig> You might change your mind the first time you get drunk enough to lower your inhibitions and get a BJ
00:24 <@dasunt> I hope so.
00:25 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Are boyfriends just as big idiots as girlfriends?  I'm guessing so.
00:25 <+eryc> seems a lot of gay dudes want to give bj's to straight guys
00:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Peaches has to fend me off on a regular basis
00:26 <@dasunt> eryc: Would you want to have sex with a lesbian?  Same diff.
00:26 <@Corydon76-dig> You always want what you cannot have
00:26 <@dasunt> I want love.  :(
00:26 <+eryc> most lesbians are ugly
00:27 <+eryc> which ive always thought encourages the lesbianism
00:27 <@Corydon76-dig> eryc: You need to attend gay pride, sometime
00:27  * eryc makes a noe
00:27 <+eryc> note
00:28 <+eryc> i could wear my rainbow costume!
00:28 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm pretty sure that most lesbians aren't ugly
00:28 <@timoguin> Most people are ugly.
00:28 <@dasunt> A lot of lesbians are cute.
00:28 <@timoguin> So it makes sense that most lesbians are ugly.
00:29 <+eryc> good point
00:29 <@Corydon76-dig> One of my major fuckups is that I'm attracted to people in the center... femme guys and butch girls...
00:29 <@timoguin> gross
00:29 <+eryc> you mean people like aestetix?
00:30 <@Corydon76-dig> eryc: femme, not submissive
00:30 <+eryc> ha
00:30 <@dasunt> Tomboy girls can be cute.
00:30 <@timoguin> tomboy != butch
00:31 <@dasunt> True.
00:33 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: good luck finding someone, anyway
00:34 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: had you ever signed up for okcupid?
00:34 <@dasunt> Not yet.
00:34 <@dasunt> You suggest?
00:34 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: Do it
00:34 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: Lots of nice looking women (and men) on there
00:35 <@Peaches84> yeah Corydon76-dig  still has his lol
00:35 <@dasunt> So what will the women want to do with me if they are nice looking.  :p
00:35 <@Peaches84> maybe go to dinner
00:35 <@Peaches84> catch a movie
00:35 <@Peaches84> cuddle on the couch
00:35 <@Peaches84> who knows untill you try
00:37 <@Peaches84> Corydon76-dig:   you still awake
00:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Of course
00:39 <@timoguin> coool
00:39 <@timoguin> updating my okcupid account
00:39 <@timoguin> made this like 3 years ago
00:40 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: you updating as interested in both?
00:40 <@dasunt> timoguin: So much care you put into it.
00:40 <@timoguin> Corydon76-dig: actually that's what it already was
00:40 <@timoguin> i changed it to straight
00:40 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: for some reason, you never showed up in my matches
00:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Maybe you're too far away
00:41 <@timoguin> There's hardly anything on my profile.
00:41 <@Corydon76-dig> How many questions?
00:41 <@timoguin> I put it to straight because I think, to most people, "bisexual" tends to imply an equal interest in males and females.
00:42 <@timoguin> Whereas I'm about 90% females and maybe 10% males, if that much.
00:42 <@Corydon76-dig> On okcupid, it merely means that you're interested in hooking up with both
00:42 <@timoguin> my pictures are really really old
00:42 <@timoguin> i look 15
00:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, that will keep people away
00:43 <@Corydon76-dig> or if it doesn't, you probably don't want them anyway
00:44 <@Corydon76-dig> If you were really looking for men, there are better sites, anyway
00:44 <@Corydon76-dig> manhunt.net and gay.com (chat) come to mind
00:44 <@Corydon76-dig> gay.com chat is where I met Peaches
00:44 <@timoguin> I wasn't.
00:44 <@Peaches84> yep yep yep
00:45 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: take note
00:45 <@Peaches84> there is also adam4adam.com
00:45 <@timoguin> It's Adam and Eve! Not Adam and Steve!
00:45 <@dasunt> That looking 15 turns people away?  :(
00:46 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: Looking 15 gets you pedophiles
00:46 <@Corydon76-dig> or other under 18, which Tim doesn't want
00:47 <@Corydon76-dig> As is said, 15 will get you 20
00:47  * dasunt ponders how old he looks.
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00:48 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: you creating a profile yet?
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00:48 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Have to think up a screen name.
00:48 <@dasunt> Probably this should involve sobriety.
00:49 <@Corydon76-dig> "dasunt" is taken?
00:49 <@dasunt> would rather not use that.
00:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Why, what's it mean?
00:50 <@Corydon76-dig> "dasunt" is plenty memorable.  You don't want to be cutesie
00:50 <@dasunt> Are you telling me that "9inchslong" is a bad screen name?  :p
00:50 <@dasunt> "dasunt" is too easy to track to me.
00:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Huh, I use Corydon76 everywhere now
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00:54 <@Peaches84> if anyone see's me they are like hey peaches how are you
00:54 <@Peaches84> lol
00:54 <@dasunt> Yah.
00:55 <@dasunt> i'm rather used to things going bad in a spectacular fashion.
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01:05 <@timoguin> the question on okcupid are stupid
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01:07 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Looks like a transient failure of the network
01:13 <@dasunt> Don't allow transients in your network.
01:14 <+eryc> i answered 26 questions
01:14 <@dasunt> Oh, I did that.
01:14 <+eryc> maybe this will get me a date
01:14 <@dasunt> Discovered I'm the nice guy that gets passed up for the cool people.
01:14 <+eryc> i sent this bisexual chick an email
01:14 <@dasunt> Sounds about right.
01:15 <+eryc> http://cdn.okcimg.com/php/load_okc_image.php/images/150x150/737x1500/484x0/1046x562/0/6481629253618632898.jpeg
01:15 <+eryc> 78% match
01:20 <+eryc> this site aint too bad i guess
01:21 <+eryc> thanks Corydon
01:21 <@Corydon76-dig> yw
01:23 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: what's your profile name?
01:24 <@Corydon76-dig> eryc: and what's yours?
01:26 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig: 10000-20000 udp right?
01:27 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: typically, yes
01:27 <@brimstone> okey dokey
01:27 <@brimstone> thanks
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01:50 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Haven't made one yet.
01:51 <@dasunt> So you can't flirt with me.  :p
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02:05 <@dasunt> http://xkcd.com/
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03:00 <@Dagmar> Ot
03:00 <@Dagmar> It's so cold the internet is breaking.
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04:15 <+Mercster> i see the plan
04:16 <+Mercster> get me devoiced, then corydon proceeds to get drunk boys onto okcupid
04:16  * Mercster shakes his head
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04:54 <@Catonic> any late-night gamers up?
04:56 <+Mercster> i play some
04:57 <+Mercster> not really a gamer
04:57 <@Catonic> hrm
04:58 <@Catonic> aside from teamspeak, can you think of any other voice chat software?
04:58 <+Mercster> ventrillo
04:58 <+Mercster> ventrillo seems to have eclipsed teamspeak in popularity; but ive never used it
04:58 <+Mercster> just hear ppl talking about it
05:04 <@TheLightCosine> yeah ventrillo is the other big one
05:14 <+Mercster> http://2008firefox.com/
05:19 <@TheLightCosine> lol, nice, what malware does that site download?
05:20 <+Mercster> no idea
05:20 <+Mercster> for some reason, i dont feel like signing up with my visa
05:20 <@TheLightCosine> heh
05:21 <@TheLightCosine> aww come on, it's firefox! ;)
05:21 <+Mercster> plus, the hot chick obviously agrees
05:21 <@TheLightCosine> nevermind that it's registered to some dude in moscow heh
05:21 <+Mercster> hot chick in hotpants
05:21 <@TheLightCosine> heh
05:22 <@TheLightCosine> hrm if you follow the chain of links it connects back up to themusicsmembersarea.com which is known to distribute at least one trojan
05:37 <@Catonic> k
05:47 <+AstralSin> catonic: try mumble for voice chat, its very good
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07:28 <@Shadow404> damn, 6.0f in nashville
07:28 <@Shadow404> thats called
07:28 <@Shadow404> COLLLLLD
07:28 <@TheLightCosine> it was colder when i came to work
07:29 <@TheLightCosine> they actually closed schools around ehre because it's cold
07:29 <@TheLightCosine> i've never heard of such a thing
07:29 <@I-MOD> 9 here
07:29 <@TheLightCosine> i mean, sure it's cold, but there's no snow, no ice
07:30 <@TheLightCosine> so wth can't kids go to school
07:30 <@TheLightCosine> i rememebr having to go to school in -2 weather before back in pa
07:33 <@I-MOD> TheLightCosine, yes, not going to school because it's cold is absurd
07:34 <@I-MOD> ice/snow when the cities in the south are underequipped for it is fine to close things down
07:34 <@Catonic> ask dasunt ...
07:34 <@Catonic> he'll laugh at you, then get on his bike and ride in this weather
07:34 <@TheLightCosine> i'm gunna call of from work one day and say "you can't really expect me to go to work in all this sunshine!"
07:34 <@TheLightCosine> =P
07:34 <@I-MOD> lol
07:35 <@I-MOD> i've done that before
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07:35 <@TheLightCosine> one of my buddies had a cowowrker that called off with "Trouth-fever" before
07:35 <@TheLightCosine> lol
07:35 <@TheLightCosine> er Trout-Fever
07:35 <@I-MOD> "it's going to be an awesome day, i'm taking the off"
07:35 <@I-MOD> s/the //
08:46 <+cerkit> I wanted to call out.
08:46 <+cerkit> It was 6 degrees this morning; and I realize thats not as cold as it elsewhere on Earth, but for me, technically speaking, thats fucking cold.
08:49 <+cerkit> If this isn't a joke, than its the greatest thing ever
08:49 <+cerkit> http://apina.biz/11996.jpg
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--- Log opened Fri Jan 16 09:31:46 2009
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09:31 <@rhia> nachoguy:  ....  is that temp or windchill?
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09:31 <@nachoguy> temp
09:31 <@rhia> morning, Dolemite
09:31 <@nachoguy> windchill is lower
09:31 <@critch> Hey Dolemite_
09:31 < Dolemite_> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
09:31 <@critch> Dolemite_: did you know your contact info with godaddy is about 2 years or so out of date?
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09:31 <@rhia> nachoguy: good reminder of why i don't want to move up north - brrrrrr
09:31 <@nachoguy> but not by much.  thankfully there isn't too much wind
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09:31 <@Dolemite> critch : which domain?
09:31 <@critch> nashville2600.org
09:31 <@Dolemite> I kind of like it out of date, though.  Heh.
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09:31 <@nachoguy> rhia, yeah, this is the first time where going outside is a deterrent to me
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09:37 <@Dolemite> Can you hum a few more bars?
09:37 <@rhia> or at least tap out a back beat
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09:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> Then get off your knees and explain what you are talking about
09:53 <@brimstone> R3d2Dawn: what do you mean bootable dvd?
09:54 < R3d2Dawn> I want to create a DVD with multiple linux distros on it
09:54 <@brimstone> there's a -b option to mkisofs, just set isolinux there
09:54 <@brimstone> http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/ISOLINUX
09:54 < R3d2Dawn> but every article I have come accross has reference stuff that is not identical to the current layouts of the Distros I have looked at
09:54 <@brimstone> same steps as bootable cd
09:55 < R3d2Dawn> the reference files in the isolinux folder but two of the files it speaks of are not in the folder on several disks I have looked at
09:55 <@brimstone> example?
09:56 <@brimstone> some stuff you can rename, anything in isolinux.cfg for example
09:56 <@brimstone> the kernel and initrd don't have to be named exactly that for the linux distro to boot
09:57 < R3d2Dawn> isolinux.cfg and isolinux.bin are in the folder but miniroot.gz and vmlinuz are not
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09:57 <@brimstone> right, miniroot.gz and vmlinuz are your initrd and kernel from your distro
09:57 <@brimstone> they could be initrd.gz or initramfs.gz
09:59 < R3d2Dawn> then for the file system it self most of the reference refer to knoppix folder for the file system image but the only thing I can find that would even come close is a large file that sits in a folder called casper with filesystem.squashfs
10:00 <@brimstone> man, i've not looked at a linux install iso in a while
10:01 < R3d2Dawn> apparently they are different now than what they use to be
10:01 < R3d2Dawn> articles I have found are dating back to 2005, 2006
10:02 <@brimstone> which distros are you looking to combine?
10:02 < R3d2Dawn> ubuntu, systemrescue, backtrack
10:03 < R3d2Dawn> but mostly for experience purposes
10:05 <@brimstone> at first glance, those don't look hard to do
10:05 <@brimstone> but i've have to download them all and look
10:07 < R3d2Dawn> from what I have read it sounds easy, but I want to make sure I am using the right files
10:07 <@brimstone> well, try it, then boot it in a vm
10:07 <@brimstone> if it boots, you should be good
10:07 < R3d2Dawn> thats the plan
10:08 <@brimstone> you just copy the entire contents of the iso to a new directory, merging all 3 images basicaly
10:11 < R3d2Dawn> you think that would work?
10:11 <@brimstone> that's my first attempt to try
10:11 <@brimstone> just don't overwrite any files
10:12 < R3d2Dawn> yeah
10:12 < R3d2Dawn> actually I will try just that, the only thing then would be a menu list to choose between the two
10:12 < R3d2Dawn> I meant three
10:13 <@brimstone> yup
10:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: yes, we still have the PO Box
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10:59 <@TheLightCosine> sweet i'm almsot done with the backend work on my current project, just gotta fix the SMB file deletes, and do the SMS bit, then i can whip up a gui
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11:13 <@Evilpig> this is pissing me off
11:14 <@Evilpig> vmware 1.0.8 has full disk support but only wants to use them as scsi. and my windows xp installer doesn't see the disk
11:14 <@Evilpig> vmware 2.0 doesn't support full disks
11:14 <@brimstone> qemu4life
11:14 <@Evilpig> vmware 3 supports what I want but isn't free damnit
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12:09 <@nachoguy> I hate life
12:10 <+Mercster> aww, come on
12:10  * booker404 is with you
12:10 <+booker404> nacho, that is
12:12 <@nachoguy> I love family members that have vague grasps on technology, think that my time is worth nothing, and think that I can take pointless rambling calls at work about their get rich quick schemes
12:13 <@nachoguy> I much prefer the ones that regard technology as voodoo, and just occasionally ask if I can fix something (becuase it uses electricity), but accept it if I have no idea how to fix their busted gizmos
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12:14 <+Mercster> have you had an open and honest conversation with your relative, expressing your frustrations?
12:14 <@nachoguy> no, becuase they just called me at work
12:15 <@nachoguy> I made the mistake of taking a phone call last night from this person, and offering to help transfer a domain away from their shitty hosting service.
12:15 <@nachoguy> apparently that translates to "i would love to spend countless days working on your project for no pay
12:15 <@nachoguy> "
12:18 <@rhia> nachoguy: sounds like time to correct the misinterpretation
12:20 <@nachoguy> rhia, yeah.  I said I'd call tomorrow to straighten it out.  It's going to be a long talk
13:07 <@rhia> k, its a balmy 31 here compared to a lot of y'all, but walking along in shorts, tshirt, and flipflops is still insane
13:10 <@Dolemite> I just left the student dining center...  lots of young ladies in short skirts, despite a 16F temperature outside.
13:11 <@rhia> did they at least have their toes covered? if not, then they're nuts too
13:11 <@Dolemite> yeah, they had on boots
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13:20 <@scort> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QB7t0i4YyB8/SUlOzxt716I/AAAAAAAAB3M/0cHmvtRHQmE/s1600-h/3774.jpg
13:24  * booker404 hopes there isn't a breeze... 'twould break her in half...
13:25 <@Shadow404> question is, whats in the bag waying her down? probably shome chico dog
13:25 <@scort> http://i39.tinypic.com/1jks2w.jpg
13:28 <@Shadow404> nice
13:29 <+eryc> o_O
13:31 <+eryc> http://apina.biz/11996.jpg
13:35 <@Shadow404> wtf
13:37 <+eryc> ftw
13:37 <@Shadow404> that you?
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13:45 <+eryc> http://www.perpetualkid.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3032
13:45 <@rhia> http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/03/16/GR2006031600213.gif
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13:52 <@rhia> heheh, Amazon customers who liked Joss Whedon's Dr Horrible's Sing a Long Blog DVD also liked:
13:52 <@rhia> http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Comfort-Fit-ANSI-Certified-Welding-Goggles/dp/B000IBEBB0/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t
14:01 <@rhia> http://notalwaysright.com/my-hand-is-bigger-than-texas/1450
14:12 <@rhia> http://www.sannas.jp/store/produto-en.php?id=100536
14:15 <@brimstone> rhia: mark those NSFW will ya :P
14:16 <@rhia> just jeans
14:16 <@brimstone> barely
14:16 <@rhia> if your response to them is NSFW, that's not my problem <g>
14:16 <@brimstone> it's a joke...
14:16 <@rhia> heh
14:21 <@polerin> those are jeans?
14:21 <@polerin> :P
14:23 <@rhia> figured of the three links, that would be the one to get a response <g>
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14:24 <@polerin> I was just curious what the objection was about
14:24 <@polerin> lol
14:24 <@polerin> I think the welding glasses are funny though
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14:48 < Synx_hm> anyone seen cardreaders show up as the C: drive on a fresh windows install?
14:48 < Synx_hm> I would unplug them but its integrated into the board on a laptop :(
14:49 <@polerin> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F16%2F159221&from=rss
14:49 <@polerin> interesting
14:51 <+eryc> http://notalwaysright.com/land-that-i-love/1423
14:51 < Synx_hm> this is not good, i just spent $350 on contacts and finally got the glasses in today, i knew something felt funny with my contact but chalked it up to new perscription, now i put on the glasses and bam its obvious, all the computer monitors i look at look like they are getting smaller on the left side
14:51 < Synx_hm> FUCK!!!
14:51 < Synx_hm> i had better be able to return these contacts
14:52 <+eryc> fail
14:52 < Synx_hm> ya i am very not happy about this
14:52 <+eryc> what is your prescription?
14:53 < Synx_hm> i dont have it in front of me
14:53 <+eryc> it says on teh contact case
14:53 < Synx_hm> but its astig left eye
14:54 < Synx_hm> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/223188
14:57 <+shadowmoss> Synx_hm: can't you just fix it in disk management, change the drive letter?
14:57 <+shadowmoss> the card reader thing, not your contacts...
14:58 < Synx_hm> dont think you can change c: a: d: in that
14:59 <@polerin> stupid legacy crap
14:59 < Synx_hm> ya
14:59 <@polerin> though if you could change your contacts by using disk management that'd be funny as hell
14:59 < Synx_hm> haha ugh oh
15:00 < Synx_hm> windows got to the loading screen and now hangs with a card reader symbol on the laptop like its trying to access a slot
15:02 <+eryc> fail
15:03 <+booker404> sounds like the left and right eye prescriptions might be backwards... or something ;)
15:03 <@critch> bye bye Circuit City
15:04 <@rhia> critch: bye bye 30k jobs
15:10 < Synx_hm> the eyeglass perscription looks nothing like my contact perscription wtf
15:11 < Synx_hm> i never got an actual page from the doc they just ordered the glasses for me
15:11 < Synx_hm> but i did get a contact one from them
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15:16 <@rhia> Synx_hm: scripts for astigmatism commonly don't match glasses to contacts
15:16 < Synx_hm> ill have to give the doc a call next week then, i need to go in and see them anways for the contact flyer program (USAF)
15:17 <+eryc> usually the only give you a sample pair and make you come back to verify that it is working properly
15:17 < Synx_hm> this is the USAF we are talking about here, usually is not a good preface
15:18 <+eryc> you should always get copies of your prescriptions too
15:18 <+eryc> i guess in your case you can always go back to see the nanny state
15:19 < Synx_hm> hehe
15:19 <@rhia> the prescription can change significantly depending on the severity of the astigmatism &/or presence of myopia/hyperopia and the distance from the glasses lenses to the eye (compared to the contact on the eye)
15:20 <@rhia> and yes, always walk out with a copy of both prescriptions
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15:42 <@Dolemite> So who thinks that Fry's may make a bid for Circuit City?
15:42 <@brimstone> didn't they already get bought?
15:42 <+eryc> just you
15:42 <@Dolemite> did they?
15:43 <@Dolemite> they filed for Chapter 11
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15:43 <@rhia> no bought
15:43 <@Dolemite> linky?
15:44 <@rhia> blockbuster thought about it, then remembered it's Circuit City
15:44 <@rhia> just been following it on consumerist.com
15:44 <@Dolemite> Yeah, like Blockbuster has a sustainable model.  heh.
15:44 <+eryc> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=circuit+city+chapter+11
15:44 <@Dolemite> oh anybody have recommendations for a place to get inexpensive cables (specifically USB extender)
15:45 <+eryc> good will
15:45 <@Dolemite> eryc : Yes, fucktard, I already know that they filed for Chapter 11.  However, that's typically when companies get bought up by others looking to expand territory easily and quickly.
15:46 <+eryc> i prefer fuckwit
15:46 <@Dolemite> ok, fuckwit
15:46 <@rhia> isn't that when TigerDirect bought up CompUSA?
15:46 <@Dolemite> yep
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15:48 <@rhia> well, TD wanted physical stores and CompUSA had those so it was a decent matchup
15:48 <@Dagmar> Except CompUSA liquidated most of them
15:48 <+eryc> best buy may take over their stores
15:48 <@Dolemite> Well, TD had a couple of brick and mortar stores already, but they wanted to expand
15:48 <@Dagmar> Oh, and they're now trying to sell this shit online for the same prices that they had in the stores... which is why no one would buy from them
15:48 <@rhia> still had more than TD had
15:49 <@Dolemite> Best Buy already spent the last several years moving next to Circuit City locations to steal their business.  It wouldn't make sense for them to buy up Circuit City.
15:49 <@Dagmar> Still, if they can't get those prices down, they'll be dead within another year
15:49 <@rhia> well, their TV prices beat Frys & Best Buy
15:49 <@Dolemite> Circuit City definitely had better TV prices than BB
15:50 <@Dolemite> My two HDTV's are from there
15:50 <@rhia> at least when we were looking 5 months ago - haven't gone drooling over electronics while Drag0n was out of work
15:50 <@Dolemite> CC's service plan was also a bit more reasonable than BB's in terms of cost
15:50 <@Corydon76-dig> I find one of the main problems with CC was that their stores were physically much smaller and more difficult to navigate than BB
15:51 <@Dolemite> I liked being able to order online and then just going to the pickup desk, but yeah, getting around in the store was a PITA
15:51 <@rhia> and Fry's are huge
15:51 <@Dolemite> They should have never started selling CD's and DVD's, either
15:51 <+eryc> i got my tv at Costco
15:51 <@Dolemite> And of course, DIVX was a disaster
15:51 <@Shadow404> our fire their full time specialized staff and hiring all part time nubs without knowledge on the products
15:52 <@Shadow404> *or
15:52 <@Dolemite> yeah, they got rid of the commission based sales people and went to flat hourly rate people
15:52 <@Dolemite> which only enouraged the good ones that didn't already get laid off to leave
15:53 <+eryc> their stores are ugly too
15:53 <+eryc> they shoulda got a makeover
15:54 <+eryc> i think ima make this tomorrow
15:54 <+eryc> http://www.elise.com/recipes/archives/002121corn_chowder.php
15:54 <@Dolemite> num num num
15:59 <@nachoguy> cc was always mroe expensive than bb.  At least around here
16:07  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
16:13 <+eryc> http://i.gizmodo.com/5133177/ustreams-upcoming-iphone-app-lets-you-watch-obama-inauguration-or-any-stream-on-your-iphone
16:26 <+shadowmoss> For those who may be interested:  RecruitMilitary is having a job fair in Nashville on January 29 at LP field (stadium)
16:27 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss: are they looking for more cannon fodder?
16:27 <+shadowmoss> its a job fair for folks getting out of the military
16:27 <+shadowmoss> as I said, for those who may be interested
16:27 <+shadowmoss> I'm thinking that others who are vets might be interested, too
16:28 <+shadowmoss> or, like me, a background in defense contrating
16:28 <+shadowmoss> contracting even
16:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Aha
16:28 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss: well, good luck
16:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Suggestive name, but safe:  http://www.squishable.com/
16:31 <+shadowmoss> Corydon76-dig: I'm headed to Tacoma, WA.  I got a job this week.  I'm just having a breakdown trying to get everything ready to leave
16:31 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss: mixed feelings
16:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Good that you got a job, bad that you're leaving us
16:32 <+shadowmoss> awww, now don't go getting all nice guy on me when I'm ready to leave :)
16:32 <+eryc> tits or gtfo
16:32 <+shadowmoss> I've guaranteed them a year.  At that point I'm going to decide how my life is going and make decisions accordingly
16:34 <+shadowmoss> FWIW, I'll be at Fletcher's in Donnelson on Wednesday to meet with some hiking friends.  If anyone in the area wants to stop by and say bye-bye, that would be a good time
16:35 <+shadowmoss> of course, anyone with a strong back who wants to help me move a few items into storage, I'll buy dinner for them
16:35 <+eryc> "Singer Boy George is jailed for 15 months after being found guilty of imprisoning a male escort at his London flat."
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16:51 <@aestetix> shadowmoss: ah fun
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17:06 <+eryc> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10144072-38.html
17:15 <@Evilpig> okay this is 100% NSFW but wtf....  http://funnyfap.com/74/
17:15 <+ware> Evilpig: ass jars? hatchet vs genitals?
17:16 <+ware> Evilpig: 1guyand1cup.com nsfw
17:17 <@Evilpig> I posted that one a while ago when it hit efukt.com
17:18 <+ware> yeah that one made me queasy
17:26 <+eryc> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3466/3199334713_5b83590014_o.jpg
17:34 <@sdodson> I don't have an ia64 machine with less than 16GB of ram :(
17:34 <@sdodson> guess I could have passed mem=1024 when booting
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17:46 <+cerkit> good evening.
17:46 <+cerkit> Hope all of you are somewhere warm :)
17:47 <+cerkit> its cold as shit here.
17:47 <@aestetix> ware: you seem to be watching a lot of these videos. When are you going to make one of your own?
17:47 <+Mercster> it was colder this morning
17:47 <+cerkit> It feels like 3 degrees here
17:47 <+Mercster> was 6F this morning, 19F now
17:47 <+eryc> pussy
17:47 <+Mercster> dunno about windchill
17:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm just glad I have heated seats
17:48 <+cerkit> eryc: why am I a pussy?
17:48 <+cerkit> thats some cold shit, dude.
17:48 <+ware> aestetix: false positive, assess the accuracy of youre monitoring system.
17:48 <+Mercster> Feels like:   11.5 ℉
17:48 <+cerkit> fo'real
17:48 <+cerkit> heh
17:48 <+Mercster> inside my apt it feels like:   68F
17:48 <+cerkit> Its 14.
17:48 <+Mercster> so im not really sweatin' it
17:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: okay.. but when are you going to make the vid?
17:49 <+cerkit> Well, I'm going to a fire later... so, I will be feeling it.
17:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> just so I can be all "I know that guy"
17:49 <+cerkit> like a bonfire type thing
17:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> gas logs
17:49 <+cerkit> christmas trees
17:49 <+cerkit> apparently someone has 700 christmass trees
17:49 <+Mercster> witches
17:50 <+cerkit> piled in this area of the woods
17:50 <+cerkit> so, we're going to light it up.
17:50 <+cerkit> and hang out.
17:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> I don't even have 700 trees in my house.. next year I'll have to try harder
17:50 <+ware> M0j0-j0j0: only in yalls dreams =/
17:50 <+cerkit> well
17:50 <+ware> and that in itself is scary
17:50 <+cerkit> I like in fucking Pine Barons, essentially.
17:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: nightmares are dreams too... right?
17:50 <+cerkit> So, people use them as a fucking trash dump, sometimes, for things like that.
17:51 <+cerkit> Old cars...
17:51 <+cerkit> whatever
17:51 <+ware> M0j0-j0j0: no idea what goes on in your head ;)
17:51 <+cerkit> Dude used a tractor or some shit, and put a pile of Christmas trees, he claims over 700 of them...
17:51 <+cerkit> in this area.
17:51 <+cerkit> *shrug*
17:51 <+cerkit> Its called "The Pit"
17:52 <+cerkit> in the summer, people go back there too
17:52 <+Mercster> for drug parties
17:52 <+cerkit> *shrug*
17:52 <+cerkit> This is the first time I've ever been invited.
17:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> and unprotected sex
17:52 <+cerkit> I usually turn them down.
17:52 <+Mercster> get ready for drugs and bareback sex
17:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> and the rock and roll music
17:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> that you can play backward to hear the devil talking to you
17:52 <+Mercster> paul's dead
17:53 <+cerkit> Thing is, I had to know, what in the fuck they could be doing, thats worth doing in weather that feels like 3 degrees.
17:53 <+Mercster> drugs
17:53 <+cerkit> These people have houses.
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17:53 <+cerkit> You're misunderstanding...
17:53 <+cerkit> I'm not 15.
17:53 <+Mercster> ohhhhh yes you are
17:53 <@sdodson> cerkit: bullshit!
17:53 <+Mercster> maybe they're wiccans
17:53 <+Mercster> are you ready to serve satan?
17:54 <+cerkit> Mercster: Stop talking to me.
17:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: with the warts and the green skin
17:54 <+cerkit> Mercster: You have cock breath.
17:54 <+eryc> time to dance naked around a fire and sing pagan chants
17:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> lol
17:54 <+Mercster> they use a dead baby salve
17:54 <+Mercster> to give them flying powers
17:55 <@nachoguy> I serve the dark lord Santa
17:55 <@Dagmar> Only dead baby fat.
17:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> like elves and fairies in a ring
17:55 <+cerkit> sdodson: And you know I'm almost 30.
17:55 <+Mercster> and you'll probably have to have sex with the high priest
17:55 <+Mercster> OOOH ALMOST 30
17:55 <+cerkit> Don't make me relive it.
17:55 <@sdodson> cerkit: I know.
17:55 <+Mercster> yer still having sex with the high priest
17:55 <+cerkit> PLEASE
17:55 <@nachoguy> His elvish wrath will be wraught upon the non believers
17:55 <+Mercster> quit yer bitchin
17:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [-v Mercster] by sdodson
17:55 <+cerkit> Almost being 30... sucks so bad... that there is nothing you can say... to make me feel worse.
17:55 <+cerkit> Nothing.
17:55 <@Dagmar> Anonymous gathering tomorrow.
17:55 <@Dagmar> Finally one when I'm not working
17:56 < Mercster> sdodson: you son od a
17:56 < Mercster> s/od/of
17:56 <@sdodson> Mercster: :)
17:56 <+cerkit> Dagmar: I require the potion for immortality.
17:56 <+cerkit> Any luck finding it?
17:56 <+eryc> what is an anonymous gathering?
17:56 <@nachoguy> Cerkit, you will soon be 30, and then after that, all you have in front of you is time over the age of 30
17:56 <@Dagmar> Nope
17:56  * sdodson luckly still has a few years left before 30
17:56 <+cerkit> I have...
17:57 <+cerkit> just days
17:57 <+cerkit> sadly
17:57 <+cerkit> and its alllll over.
17:57 <@sdodson> cerkit: What have you done with your life old man?!!
17:57 < Mercster> in 5 days ill be 32
17:57 <+cerkit> pissed it away, evidently.
17:57 < Mercster> someone plz get me a dell mini
17:57 <@sdodson> Mercster: why?
17:57 <@Dagmar> eryc: http://www.whyweprotest.net/en/
17:57 < Mercster> cuz i deserve it
17:57 <+cerkit> 30 fucking years...
17:57 <@sdodson> I totally don't get the netbook thing
17:57 < Mercster> im a good person
17:57 <+cerkit> its so depressing.
17:57 <@sdodson> I just use my phone
17:57 <+eryc> you deserve a dildo mini
17:57 < Mercster> sdodson: my phone suuuuuuucks
17:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I love mine
17:58 <+cerkit> I could light myself on fire.
17:58 <@Peaches84> hello everyone
17:58 <+cerkit> Thats how sad it is.
17:58 < Mercster> sdodson: essentially i want a little notebook but dont want to pay much. so, dell mini
17:58 < Mercster> hi Peaches84
17:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> cerkit: you can let go of it... it's been a long time ago for some of us
17:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> Peaches84: hey!
17:58 <@Peaches84> how are you doing
17:58 <@nachoguy> have a good weekend everyone
17:58 <@sdodson> I figure in a year or two they'll be powerful enough to catch my interest.
17:58 < Mercster> Peaches84: you tell that boyfriend of yours to be nice to me, he's been picking on me because im young and hot and he caint HAAAAAVE ALL THIS
17:58  * nachoguy trudges off into the sub-arctic
17:58 <@Peaches84> lord lol
17:59  * sdodson shakes this test box violently waiting for it to finish dumping core
17:59 < Mercster> sdodson: all i do is irc and porn anyway, why i have anything BUT a netbook is beyond me
17:59 <+eryc> Dagmar: do you have a cool mask?
17:59 <@sdodson> Mercster: to run your leet bitchx schkriptz
17:59 <+cerkit> BitchX-1.1-final+ by panasync - Linux 2.6.17-10-server
17:59 <@sdodson> yick
17:59 < Mercster> sir i have never in my life run bitchx
17:59 < Mercster> and im gonna ask you to take that back
17:59 < Mercster> TAKE IT BACK RIGHT NOW
17:59 <@sdodson> Mercster: i do n't believe you
18:00 < Mercster> ok i did twice
18:00 <@sdodson> I know you're a bitchx user
18:00 < Mercster> but still
18:00 <+cerkit> I have to use BitchX... or otherwise, I'll begin to see IRC in a serious manner and begin to take all of you... seriously.
18:00 <+cerkit> Nothing good could come from it.
18:00 <@sdodson> cerkit: shut up gramps
18:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> cerkit: 30!
18:00 <+cerkit> hahaha
18:00 <+cerkit> nice
18:00 < Mercster> irc is people too
18:01 <+cerkit> iz peepul
18:01 <+cerkit> IRCZ IZ PEEPUL
18:01 <@M0j0-j0j0> irc's pee pull
18:01 <+cerkit> IRC is multiplayer notepad.
18:01 <+eryc> yes we can
18:02 <@sdodson> how long until obama fixes 'merica?
18:02 <+cerkit> The way they're going?  never.
18:02 < Mercster> 7 days
18:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> that would be the 20th of this month
18:02 <@sdodson> So the 20th, it'll all be fixt?
18:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: on the 7th day he's going to rest
18:02 < Mercster> in 7 days we'll be out of iraq, groceries will be free, all the slaves will be let go and finally, we'll put a man on the moon
18:03 <+cerkit> We've just commited today to over $400b in assets of Bank of America and Citigroup
18:03 <+cerkit> just in one day
18:03 < Mercster> and someday, maybe, we'll have an asian president
18:03 < Mercster> i just hope its not timball
18:03 <@sdodson> he's too azn
18:03 <+cerkit> Thats $50b more than the 2nd trunach of TARP they approved.
18:03 < Mercster> ahhh fuck im missing the news
18:03 <+cerkit> So, I don't even know how they are backstopping that much.
18:03 < Mercster> you guys hear, circuit city is dead
18:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> it's dead Jim
18:04 <+cerkit> At least for now, they're still doing damage.
18:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> 30!
18:04 <+cerkit> Once they stop lending this financial blackhole money, we may be able to begin to salvage things, but, the longer they try to re-inflate these bubbles, we'll be fucked.
18:05 <+cerkit> They can't lend banks enough to backstop the $55 trillion they're holding in deritivies.
18:05 <@sdodson> I have a video of someone tossing timball across a room but i can't find it
18:05 <+cerkit> (which are gambles on the $11 trillion mortgage market)
18:05 < Mercster> sdodson: cant be that rare
18:05 <+cerkit> So, they're basically fucking us and our children right now, in future inflation.
18:05 <@sdodson> Ya, apparently its' a game they call asian tossing.
18:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> we just need to wipe out the credit system FightClub style
18:06 <+cerkit> No need.
18:06 <+cerkit> It happened already.
18:06 <+cerkit> Starting about last March.
18:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> who cares about the chiltons?
18:06 <@sdodson> ya, that's what I thought of when I heard of things happening
18:07 < Mercster> chitlins?
18:07 <+cerkit> IT really kicked into high gear when Lehman failed.
18:07 <+cerkit> But, the TED spread widened even after Bear Stearns
18:07 <+cerkit> which was in March of last year\
18:08 <+cerkit> =
18:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> TED widened his spread to the bare Stearns
18:08 <+cerkit> The liquidation will affect more than 30,000 employees, adding to the rising number of U.S. job losses, which last year hit their highest level since World War II. As of Dec. 31, Circuit City, which originated as Wards Co. in Richmond, Va., in 1949, had 567 stores in the U.S. and about 765 stores and dealer outlets in Canada.
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18:09 <+eryc> yes we can!
18:09 <+cerkit> GE Capital could be facing a headcount reduction of 7,500 to 11,000 jobs, according to a Bloomberg News report that cited sources with knowledge of the company's plans. GE Capital has about 75,000 employees.
18:09 < Mercster> TED == goatse.cx
18:09 <+cerkit> Hertz Global Holdings Inc. shares were driven down as much as 12% Friday after the company said it will slash 4,000 jobs, or almost 14% of its workforce, in an effort to cut costs in the face of falling demand for its rental cars.
18:09 <+cerkit> Advanced Micro Devices Inc. said Friday that it plans to cut its workforce by 9%, or roughly 1,100 positions, in the first quarter as the chip maker struggles to lower costs in an economic downturn.
18:10 <@sdodson> The TED?
18:10 <+cerkit> thats today
18:10 <@sdodson> AMD has been dead for two years now
18:10 <@sdodson> They just don't know it.
18:10 < Mercster> come on
18:10 <@sdodson> core2 bitch slapped them
18:10 <+cerkit> sdodson: You act like those numbers don't representing living, breathing people who need and do, buy shit.
18:10 <@rhia> they pour money into the the financial CEO's failed fuckups but argue over spending 1% to 10% of that amount to help keep people in their homes or take care of the young or elderly - gotta luv'em, eh?
18:10 <+eryc> i like turtles
18:10 <+cerkit> sdodson: You act like they don't have loans and the banks we're backstopping
18:10 <+cerkit> (with out tax dollars while we still can work)
18:11 < Mercster> rhia: issa outrage!
18:11 <@rhia> eryc: i had a turtle named Exedor once
18:11 <+cerkit> sdodson: Its only funny when its not a guy going home to his wife and kids like, "fuck, guess that re-fi will be a double-default"
18:11 <+cerkit> after every form of credit's been cut off
18:11 <@M0j0-j0j0> well, if people wouldn't vastly over extend themselves that wouldn't have to worry so much about no job meaning no home
18:12 <+cerkit> and your state is requesting aid for unemployment reserves
18:12 < Mercster> it's everyone's problem
18:12 <+cerkit> thats when the cynical part of it being funny... ceases to exist.
18:12 <+cerkit> heh
18:12 <+cerkit> At least... for me.
18:12 <+eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUVr760BMQ8
18:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> if I got fired or whatever... I think I could make it for about 6-8 months without a job before I would be out of resources..
18:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> I should be able to make that same comment about 12 months.. but I can't
18:13 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: it's a myth that only overspenders are hurting
18:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: are you hurting?
18:14 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: we had scrambled to get 3 months CoL saved back when Drag0n lost his job
18:14 <@rhia> and he was out for 4
18:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> I know I'm not really hurting all that much
18:14 <@rhia> yes
18:14 <+cerkit> retirees for 2007-8?
18:14 <+cerkit> got their ass kicked
18:14 <+cerkit> heh
18:15 <@rhia> and it was medical bills above and beyond what insurance paid that put us scrambling to rebuild savings in the first place
18:15 <+cerkit> I have $300 of debt :)
18:15 <+cerkit> Its on my company credit card.
18:15 <@M0j0-j0j0> cerkit: mortgage and car payment?
18:15 <+cerkit> No. and No.
18:15 < Mercster> ive got a few thousand
18:15 < Mercster> 3-4 i think
18:15 <+eryc> i have like $15k
18:16 <+eryc> stupid car
18:16 <+cerkit> eryc: You're in a good area, given whats going on with the government.
18:16 <+cerkit> IT skills will be in demand.
18:16 <@rhia> we still have a fat CRT tv, a used truck, and renting (medical bills severely axed our credit, don't tell me "they can't" - they damn well do)
18:16 <+eryc> ..in debt
18:16 <+cerkit> OH
18:16 <+eryc> but i also have like $11k savings
18:16 <@M0j0-j0j0> I have like 300k.. but I have the assets behind it so.. it's not all that bad
18:16 <+cerkit> eryc: ouch.
18:16 <+cerkit> I own things.
18:16 <+cerkit> Payments suck.
18:17 <@M0j0-j0j0> cerkit: word
18:17 <+eryc> i owned my last car but it wasnt worth that much totalled
18:17 < Mercster> my mom's bf just totalled her car that she owned, only getting $6k out of it
18:17 <@M0j0-j0j0> cerkit: but when you can buy a house for 65k... you buy it ... even if you don't have the money
18:17 <+cerkit> eryc: I don't live lavishly... but, its pretty nice.
18:17 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: so, yeah, except for paying for the cage in my back and my son's life - um, show me where we've "over reached"
18:17 <+cerkit> eryc: I'm a pretty simple guy.
18:17 <@rhia> (sorry, that sounds a bit bitter, well, i kinda am)
18:18 <+eryc> my car is pretty fun tho, its all good
18:18 <+cerkit> It was weird, but, one day, I just like, grew up.
18:18 <@rhia> and where we overextended ourselves
18:18 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: I'm not attacking you... I'm just saying that Americans tend to live outside their means
18:19 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: same back - just showing that the GOP view of the only people hurting are those that spent too much is Wrong
18:19 < Mercster> rhia: sushi is pretty expensive in relation to the nutrition it provides
18:19 <+cerkit> A real sign we were going in the shitter economically, was when you noticed EVERY FUCKING ESTABLISHMENT, follow up your payment process with, "Would you like to apply for one of our credit cards?"
18:19 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: savings isn't something people generally start at 16 and keep paying into until they really really really need it
18:19 <+cerkit> Thats generally not a good thing.
18:20 <@rhia> http://www.bankrate.com/caf/news/financial_literacy/credit_help/credit_card_debt_a1.asp
18:20 <@M0j0-j0j0> is that work safe ;)
18:20 <@rhia> Mercster: i eat sushi when my oldest takes me to the little Japanese place - troll fail
18:20 <@rhia> it's bankrate
18:21 < Mercster> rhia: it's not a troll fail, just a joke. STOP BEING SO HOSTILE
18:21 <+eryc> http://meatspin.com/caf/news/financial_literacy/credit_help/credit_card_debt_a1.asp
18:21 < Mercster> the economy has made rhia angry
18:21 <@rhia> M0 just a fluff bit
18:21 <@rhia> Mercster: stop being an ass
18:21 <@rhia> oh, sorry
18:22 <+cerkit> "Despite reporting a $15 billion fourth-quarter net loss on Friday, Merrill Lynch is still exposed to at least $75 billion of collateralized debt obligations, mortgage-backed securities, leveraged loans and other potentially risky assets. The government is now responsible for a lot of this."
18:22 < Mercster> im not being an ass, i was trying to make light of our argument yesterday. you're the one being an ass
18:22 <@rhia> Mercster: STOP BEING AN ASS,   there, that's appropriate
18:22 < Mercster> haha
18:22 <+cerkit> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Government-takes-risk-Merrill-CDOs/story.aspx?guid={F936817D-1E71-4463-B8CF-70465DBE8C95}
18:22 < Mercster> yeah, i respond to caps
18:22 <+eryc> do you need another timeout Mercster
18:22 <+cerkit> Its pretty scary whats happening actually-- it looks like they might have to turn the financial system into a "utility"
18:23 <@rhia> Mercster: all you had to do with the example yesterday was replace sushi with bobs bbq beef and beans and the analogy still worked, troll
18:23 < Mercster> eryc: do you need another cock in your mouth oh sorry NO MORE ROOM
18:23 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: I'm sure she has the "Mercster: STOP BEING AN ASS" set as a macro by now..
18:23 < Mercster> rhia: what analogy
18:23 <+cerkit> Where every single element and instrument is in some way government owned or protected.
18:23 <+cerkit> Because I can't see how in the fuck they could ever back out of this eventually.
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18:23 <@rhia> Mercster: the one you jumped on - but you're too busy trolling to remember
18:23 < Mercster> jeezus
18:23 < Mercster> LET GO OF THE RAGE, LADY
18:24 <+cerkit> Its now trillions in obligations.
18:24 <+cerkit> I think 10.2 trillion.
18:24 < Mercster> rhia: what cage in your back?
18:24 <@rhia> cerkit: so, what's your take on the government just taking over the banking system
18:24 <@rhia> Mercster: the one holding it together
18:24 <+cerkit> rhia: its more than that...
18:24 < Mercster> rhia: i figured but, how does that work
18:24 <+cerkit> rhia: they're essentially restructuring it like they did utlities.
18:24 < Mercster> rhia: what's it called technically
18:24 <+cerkit> rhia: Utilities
18:25 <+cerkit> Water, electric, etc
18:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: does Mercster help you to understand why people have a hard time with you sometimes?
18:25 < Mercster> M0j0-j0j0: keep my name outta yer mouth, pal
18:25 < Mercster> mind yer own business
18:25 < Mercster> youll know when i address you
18:25 <+cerkit> rhia: It'll mean, a veyr, extremely termpered leverage system.
18:25 <+eryc> Mercster: stfukthxby
18:25 <+cerkit> rhia: It'll mean, its almost impossible to create companies that explode into things like Google.
18:26 <+cerkit> rhia: No more money to help start them up
18:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: I can't wait until you're mature enough to know what an ass you have been at times.
18:26 < Mercster> M0j0-j0j0: yeah, that'll be so sweet
18:26 <+eryc> no more grad students to steal idea from..
18:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: bless you
18:26 <+cerkit> eryc: Those silly things created a lot of psychology that made people think they needed to hire us too
18:26 <+cerkit> Don't dismiss that
18:27 <@Dagmar> THis isn't something they're backing out of
18:27 <+ware> M0j0-j0j0: no
18:27 <@rhia> Mercster: L5-S1
18:27 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Exactly.
18:27 <@Dagmar> This is simply something they wanted to have one last Christmas in party-mode for.
18:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> ware: k, thanks for the info
18:27 < Mercster> rhia: are those vertebre?
18:27 <+ware> M0j0-j0j0: everyone in here is crazy, some ppl have the ability to shun others craziness and others dont
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18:27 <@Dagmar> GM's not paying back those loans.
18:27 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Its very problematic though, from a standpoint of personal freedom.
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18:27 <@Dagmar> The "investment banks" aren't paying back those loans.
18:27 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Freedom literally requires financing.
18:27 <+ware> M0j0-j0j0: see
18:27 <+ware> M0j0-j0j0: you just did it
18:27 <@Dagmar> They're just going to file bankruptcy and say "hahaha"
18:27  * Mercster snorts
18:28 <@rhia> Mercster: sorry, broke the little tab sections off the L5-S1 vertabrae in a fall down the stairs
18:28 <+cerkit> There ARE no more "investment banks"
18:28  * eryc starts making nooses
18:28 <@Dagmar> cerkit: I've no financing, but I have freedom.
18:28 < Mercster> rhia: gah
18:28 <+cerkit> There are blackhole zombies
18:28 <+cerkit> Dagmar: How do you eat?  Where do you sleep?
18:28 <+cerkit> How do you stay warm
18:28 <+cerkit> be serious.
18:28 <+cerkit> and paractical.
18:28 <@Dagmar> I am serious.
18:28 <@Dagmar> I don't owe any companies anything.
18:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> well... you folks have a nice weekend if I don't see ya on
18:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm headed home
18:28 <+cerkit> No, but you need the system to live the life you live, no?
18:29 <+cerkit> In some sense...
18:29 <@Dagmar> No.
18:29 <@rhia> congenital spondylolitheses (sp) pretty much insured that it would NOT heal with just bone infusions, just, nice metal cage & pins holding it all together
18:29 <@Dagmar> In no sense whatsoever.
18:29 <+cerkit> So, you prefer anarchy?
18:29 <@Dagmar> "Neither a borrower nor a lender be".
18:29 <+cerkit> Murder in the streets?
18:29 <+cerkit> The whole 9?
18:29 < Mercster> rhia: i see.
18:29 <@Dagmar> cerkit: Those things have nothing to do with anything
18:29 <@Dagmar> ...anything pertinent to this argument, at any rate.
18:29 <+cerkit> Dagmar: They're possible outcomes of a financial meltdown.
18:30 <@Dagmar> Freedom does not require someone to pay for you in advance.
18:30 <+cerkit> You're saying we don't need a financial system, it could entirely meltdown.
18:30 <+cerkit> Thats not what I said.
18:30 <+cerkit> I said it needs financing.
18:30 <+cerkit> That can be wages earned too
18:30 <+cerkit> Which IS a loan, in effect
18:30 <+cerkit> for services rendered
18:30 <@Dagmar> cerkit: Speaking relatively, I'll be FAR less harmed than the rich people who are responsible for this mess.
18:30 <+cerkit> but thats whatever.
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18:30 <@Dagmar> Wages are not a loan..
18:31 <@Dagmar> You're smoking entirely too much weed if you think I'm going to buy that argument.
18:31 <+cerkit> Dagmar: But my point isn't about distributing effects according to blame -- I don't even think that matters
18:31 < Mercster> cerkit is trying to make some specious social/class argument
18:31 <+cerkit> Its the opportunities lost that you could not have ever known about.
18:31 < Mercster> it all ends up at marx somehow
18:31 <@Dagmar> Corporate greed requires financing.
18:31 <@Dagmar> Freedom does not.
18:31 <+cerkit> I pay my bills.
18:32 <+cerkit> I don't get to freely not do that.
18:32 <+cerkit> If I want to have THIS freedom.
18:32 < Mercster> you could freely be homeless
18:32 <+cerkit> I don't see how thats an argument.
18:32 <+cerkit> Thats fact.
18:32 <+cerkit> Mercster: But then I would not be THIS free
18:32 <@Dagmar> Paying your bills is not the same as financing.
18:32 < Mercster> freedom isnt just "whee i get to do what i want". freedom is also responsibility for oneself
18:32 <@Dagmar> ffs
18:32 <+cerkit> Dagmar: I consider my life... my freedom, in a lot of ways, my business.
18:32 <@Dagmar> So what
18:32 <+cerkit> my personal business... my work business..
18:33 <+cerkit> its my business.
18:33 <+cerkit> Business is financed.
18:33 <@Dagmar> Not necessarily, no.
18:33 <+cerkit> Thats all I'm saying.
18:33 <@Dagmar> You know what *is* "necessarily"?
18:33 <+cerkit> You know what is "majoring on minors"?
18:33 <+cerkit> "Low hanging fruit?"
18:33 <+cerkit> I was making a broader point.
18:33 < Mercster> mmm minors
18:33 <+cerkit> You're working on which words I'm using still.
18:33 <+cerkit> Can we move on?
18:34 <+cerkit> I'll use the words you like, go ahead and pick them for me.
18:34 <@Dagmar> Premises must necessarily be both true and valid and support their argument for the argument to be either true or valid.
18:34 <@Dagmar> That's what necessarily.
18:34 <+cerkit> I'm not making an argument.
18:34 <+cerkit> I'm talking about MY life.
18:35 <+cerkit> The court room is the 3rd door on your right,
18:35 <+cerkit> This is #se2600l.
18:35 <+cerkit> when I can type
18:35 <+cerkit> #se2600
18:35 <+cerkit> too
18:35 <@Dagmar> No, by most people's standards when you say "Freedom requires financing" you're not making an argument, you're just trolling.
18:35 <+cerkit> Trrolling?
18:35 <+cerkit> You use your words.  I use mine.
18:35 < Mercster> you people use 'trolling' wrong
18:35 <+cerkit> What in the fuck crawled inside you and died?
18:36 <@Dagmar> Ad hominem.
18:36 < Mercster> ad hominem is not trolling
18:36 < Mercster> it's almost as amusing, but it's not trolling
18:36 < Mercster> trolling is intentionally taking a position you dont even agree with just to piss someone else off
18:36 <+cerkit> Whats weird is you would rather go through this than deal with the broader issues at hand.
18:36 < Mercster> you dont get to accuse someone of trolling because you disagree with them, or think their argument sucks
18:36 <+cerkit> The english I used?
18:36 <+cerkit> hahaha
18:37 <+cerkit> No wonder we're so fucked.
18:37 < Mercster> Dagmar: maybe this is one of those cosmic things you can only understand after smoking weed
18:37 < Mercster> "you just dont GET IT MAAAAAAN"
18:37 <@Dagmar> Hmmm... I knew something was off
18:37 <@Dagmar> [1;30m[[1;37m1[1;30m][0m ùíù Ignoring ALL messages from Mercster!*@*[0m
18:37 <@Dagmar> Much better.
18:37 < Mercster> hahahaa
18:37 < Mercster> aaaaaaaaa
18:38 < Mercster> see, dagmar didnt like being told what trolling was
18:38 < Mercster> so im trolling
18:38 <+cerkit> Dagmar: You think I'm insane to view my wages as a loan, really?
18:38 < Mercster> you ppl are noobs
18:38 <@Dagmar> Yes.
18:38 <+cerkit> Explain this to me in a way where you don't feel you must belittle me at every turn.
18:38 <@Dagmar> It's your damn money, not theirs.
18:38 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Its not my money until I do the work.
18:38 <@Dagmar> Please feel free to paste where I've been belittling you.
18:38 <@Dagmar> If you're being paid in advance, then it's not a wage, it's an advance.
18:38 <@Dagmar> Me, I don't get paid until after I've done the work.
18:39 <@Dagmar> Same as 99.9% of America.
18:39 <+cerkit> Wait, what?
18:39 <+cerkit> I'm paid in advance?
18:39 <@Dagmar> Apparently you are.
18:39 <+cerkit> You realize the word FINANCED can simply mean, PAID FOR
18:40 <+cerkit> This is English, not Bovarian.
18:40 <@Dagmar> Yes, it's a living language.
18:40 <+cerkit> Okay.
18:40 <+cerkit> So, I get a check like you.
18:40 <@Dagmar> Which means you don't say "financed" unless a loan was involved.
18:40 <@Dagmar> You say "paid for" when something was simply paid for.
18:40 <+cerkit> I know we live in a free country... but, just for now, is it okay if I use that word?
18:40 < Mercster> oh so you guys agree, yaaaay
18:41 <+cerkit> If I LIVE a little
18:41 <+cerkit> with the language, so to speak?
18:41 < Mercster> it was just semantics!
18:41 <@Dagmar> You wanna argue about the definition of money, next?
18:41 <+cerkit> Only if you're going to give me shit when I say CASH
18:41 <+cerkit> I mean, shit.
18:41 < Mercster> dirty cash
18:42 <@Dagmar> No, I'll simply cheat and demand you supply a logical proof that freedom requires usury.
18:42 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Why don't we discuss something of value, like the result of turning the banking system into a Utility... or, what its going to be like when the dollar gets completely devalued?
18:42 <+cerkit> I meant THIS freedom
18:42 <+cerkit> THIS WAY of life.
18:42 <@Dagmar> Because there's no value in worrying about that
18:42 < Mercster> because neither of you know what the fuck you're talking about
18:42 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Who's worrying...
18:42 <+eryc> Steve Jobs is considering a liver transplant, citing "people who are monitoring his illness."
18:42 <+cerkit> I'm trying to make money off it.
18:43 <+eryc> .Why don.t you guys leave me alone . why is this important?. Jobs said.
18:43 < Mercster> eryc: he's sweating bullets over investors
18:43 <@Dagmar> cerkit: So figure out how to get eBay to let you auction off small pieces of Paulsen.
18:43 <@Dagmar> ...and Madoff, too, while you're at it.
18:43 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Theres such things as stocks, bonds, futures, foreign currencies...
18:44 <+cerkit> You can trade them?
18:44 <@Dagmar> So pick the one that involves the least amount of bullshitting someone else into thinking it's valuable for awhile
18:44 <+cerkit> I see.
18:44 <@Dagmar> Precious metals and so on
18:44 <+cerkit> Its all hogwash.
18:44 <+cerkit> We should all burn our money and sit in a nice semi-circle around a fire.
18:44 <+cerkit> Doing what exactly?
18:44 <+cerkit> Since nothing matters.
18:45 < Mercster> serving God
18:45 <@Dagmar> Frankly I think if we could chop Paulsen and Madoff up into tiny pieces, seal them in polyurethane cubes with little holograms and RFID chips embedded in them to guarantee authenticity, that they'd trade pretty damn well
18:45 <+cerkit> It would do nothing.
18:45 <@Dagmar> It would serve as a warning to the others.
18:45 <+cerkit> Here is a small, but important life lesson you will learn: there are always bad people
18:46 <+cerkit> They donot heed your nonsense warnings.
18:46 <+cerkit> They donot respect your intelligence.
18:46 <+cerkit> That is why they are bad people.
18:46 <@Dagmar> 'cuz at the moment, society is doing a really shit job of warning any of them that anything bad will ever happen to them for fucking everything up.
18:46 <+cerkit> You cannot educate them.
18:46 <+cerkit> You cannot "help" them.
18:46 <+cerkit> Some people are just bad... as in... defective.
18:46 <@Dagmar> Like Mercster.
18:46 <+cerkit> Some others, can be helped, etc.
18:46 <+cerkit> Like me.
18:46 <+cerkit> :)
18:47 < Mercster> im not a bad person
18:47 <+cerkit> The fact is, we've punished people for time and memorial.... we've killed them... tried to rehabilitate them...
18:47 <+cerkit> what is to be learned?
18:47 <@Dagmar> That not doing so is worse than doing so.
18:47 < Mercster> i think you mean 'time immemorial'
18:47 <+cerkit> whatever'
18:47 <+cerkit> I'm stupid
18:48 < Mercster> nah
18:48 <@Dagmar> ...which is why it's just so damn cool that Madoff will have plenty of time to lounge around and finish squirreling that stolen money away before disappearing or faking his death.
18:48 <@rhia> cerkit: that we didn't kill them painfully & publicly enough?
18:48 <@Dagmar> ...becuase they're not even entertaining the idea of putting him in jail yet.
18:48 <@Dagmar> Who went to jail over Enron?
18:48 <@Dagmar> Hmm...
18:48 < Mercster> a few people
18:48 < Mercster> the head guy died before he went
18:48 <+cerkit> rhia: I will never... EVER... conceed this point, that thinking you can subject someone to your way of thinking, with any other instrument than education... is a failing strategy.
18:49 <+cerkit> And some people, can't learn.
18:49 <+cerkit> Violence begets violence.
18:49 < Mercster> concede
18:49 <@Dagmar> Shoot someone in the leg, which is something that they're rather likely to get over if it's a .22--and you'll spend at least six months in jail.
18:49 <+cerkit> Madness begets madness.
18:49 < Mercster> and, that's bullshit
18:49 <@rhia> cerkit: missed the sarcasm tag?
18:49 <@Dagmar> Steal a billion dollars, get on CNN.
18:49 <+cerkit> rhia: oh.
18:49 <+cerkit> hehehe
18:49 < Mercster> punishment is required
18:49 < Mercster> and works
18:49 <@Drag0n> dagmar, the guy died before sentencing
18:49 <@Dagmar> Drag0n: Suicide..
18:49 <@Dagmar> ...and he was pretty old, so the amount of time he had left was pretty questionable anyway
18:50 <+cerkit> Dagmar: My point is, perhaps its time to consider a revolution of the mind.  This shit is not working.
18:50 <@Drag0n> no, old age and a weak heart, pissed off a lot of ppl because they couldnt sue without a sentancing
18:50 <+cerkit> The proof is in the pudding of our FUCKED UP financial system... AGAIN
18:50 <@Dagmar> cerkit: So, if we were to start locking up and/or slaughtering the thieves, shit would change.
18:50 <+cerkit> Its sad how people don't realize the cyclicality of all this.
18:50 < Mercster> somehow these two have gone from economic policy to the merit of criminal justice
18:50 <+cerkit> Dagmar: we haven't been doing that?
18:51 <+cerkit> Dagmar: You're like the guys who think we haven't poured enough money into the system yet... we just need a little more... a little more...
18:51 <@Dagmar> Got caught backdating options?  Currently, that's not a problem at all... Just pay a little fine and everything's cool again.
18:51 <+cerkit> never realizing...
18:51 <+cerkit> you need to let it go bankrupt
18:51 <+cerkit> you need to rebuild
18:51 <+cerkit> you need NEW ideas.
18:51 <@Dagmar> Shoplift a magazine with a value of a buck-fifty, spend 30 days in jail./
18:51 < Mercster> cerkit: yay marx
18:51 <@Dagmar> ...with a record you have to divulge to future employers.
18:52 <@Dagmar> Backdating options?  No criminal record.
18:52 <+cerkit> Options should be outlawd.
18:52 <+cerkit> All deritivies should.
18:52 <+cerkit> They're false.
18:52 <@Dagmar> I'm perfectly fine with it all coming apart at the seams.
18:52 <+cerkit> They're bullshit.
18:52 <@Dagmar> I'm *totally* fine with the idea of bullshit artists being paid what bullshit is worth.
18:52 <+cerkit> Afterh aving been thoroughly trained, by the guy who regulates the PHLX options floor..
18:52 <+cerkit> I can tell you, its the best scheme of all time.
18:53 <+cerkit> And by virtue, so are all deritivies.
18:53 <@Drag0n> F1tzg3rald
18:53 < Mercster> you've misspellt that twice now
18:53 <+cerkit> Okay
18:53 <@Drag0n> wrong keybord
18:54 < Mercster> Drag0n: no KVM?
18:54 <+cerkit> Collatoralized Debt Obligations, Asset Backed Securities, Credit Default Swaps, Options...
18:54 <+cerkit> all that shit should be ILLEGAL as crack is, anyway
18:55 < Mercster> what happened to 'freedom is a business'
18:55 <+cerkit> Thats not what I said at all
18:55 <@Dagmar> I know that clearly we're not going to be free of the privateers who are currently running things until their current corporate vehicles have completely collapsed.
18:55 <+cerkit> I said I look at what I do, as my "business"
18:55 < Mercster> 19:32 <+cerkit> Dagmar: I consider my life... my freedom, in a lot of ways, my business.
18:55 <+cerkit> And my freedom needed to be financed.
18:55 <+cerkit> Right.
18:55 <+cerkit> 'freedom is a business'
18:55 <+cerkit> I didn't say that
18:55 <@Dagmar> Apparently no one here said it.
18:56 < Mercster> you're perfectly free to be homeless, though
18:56 <+cerkit> Read it a couple times or something.
18:56 <+cerkit> Dagmar: You're fucking retarded, if you don't see how I tried to clarify what
18:56 <+cerkit> I said..
18:56 <+cerkit> Then its cool.
18:56 <@Dagmar> You're either failing to support your argument, or you're making a circular argument, which is the same thing.
18:56 <+cerkit> Because I can't be held accontable for that level of a lack of reading comprehension
18:57 <+cerkit> see, what you have to do is
18:57 <+cerkit> you have to take ALL the little statements
18:57 <+cerkit> and put them together
18:57 <@Dagmar> If your idea of "freedom" includes only things which must be paid for by someone else, then you are making a circular argument, not a rational argument.
18:57 <+cerkit> to see my WHOLE statement
18:57 <+cerkit> instead of taking one segment of them entirely out of their context...
18:57 <+cerkit> and you'd be doing better then a chimp right now
18:57 < Mercster> you're belittling him
18:57 <+cerkit> but, we're back to helping you understanding my flowery use of freedom and finance in the same sentence.
18:58 <+cerkit> Dagmar: What part don't you like about those two words that close?
18:58 <+cerkit> FREEDOM.... and FINANCE...
18:58 <+cerkit> It sounds like it should be a band name.
18:58 <+cerkit> It would upset people.
18:58 <@Dagmar> Other than the statement "freedom requires finance" being utterly false, nothing.
18:58 <+cerkit> FOR ME
18:58 <+cerkit> ASS
18:58 <+cerkit> I said for me
18:58 < Mercster> hah
18:58 <+cerkit> like 1000000000000000000000012384902340982390423]\
18:58 <+cerkit> time
18:58 <+cerkit> s
18:58 <@Dagmar> Well good for you then.
18:58 <+cerkit> READ
18:59 <+cerkit> REAd
18:59 <+cerkit> READ
18:59 <@Dagmar> Circular argument.
18:59 <+cerkit> Dagmar: its not circular at all, its an expression
18:59 < Mercster> why dont you guys just follow the Bible, usury is bad, dont buy something unless you can pay for it
18:59 <+cerkit> its how i see something
18:59 < Mercster> real simple
18:59 <+cerkit> you want to call me stupid for it, I'm fine with that
18:59 < Mercster> oh yeah, the bible is stupid
18:59 <+cerkit> but don't say it means something it doesn't
18:59 <+cerkit> thats fucking rude
18:59 <@Dagmar> It's a circular argument.
18:59 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Right.
18:59 <+cerkit> "I like the sun"
19:00 <+cerkit> "You didn't say solar fusion object."
19:00 <@sdodson> You order chinese food. Wait for it to be prepared, someone else comes in to pick up their order, they take it out to the car, bring it back in a minute later and explain they got the wrong order. The cashier then tells your order is ready, it's the returned food. Do you take it?
19:00 <+cerkit> "What a circular argument"
19:00 <+cerkit> hahahaha
19:00 <@Dagmar> You're defining "freedom" as things which actually do require finance.
19:00 <+cerkit> Dagmar: You're an ass.
19:00 <+cerkit> hahaha
19:00 < Mercster> isnt the sun fission?
19:00 < Mercster> eh maybe not
19:00 < Mercster> yeah, its fusion
19:00 <+cerkit> Dagmar: I'm defining freedom as my whole lifestyle.
19:00 <+cerkit> Dagmar: "My freedom"
19:00 < Mercster> your whole lifestyle isnt freedom
19:00 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Like in the Led Zepplin song.... ramble on
19:00 <+cerkit> "My freedom I hold dear"
19:00 <+cerkit> ?
19:01 <+cerkit> What was i thinking right?
19:01 <+cerkit> I'm nuts
19:01 <+cerkit> Crazy cerkit english!
19:01 <@Dagmar> I'll take "how much time was just wasted" for a cigarette, Alex
19:01 <@rhia> sdodson: no, you get your money back
19:02 <+cerkit> Dagmar: I told you, you were wasting your time with this a half hour ago.
19:02 <@sdodson> rhia: ok, I thought the lady was just being a bitch but I guess people are concerned about this. Maybe it was the way she said "I know you ain't gonna give me that food!"
19:02 <@Dagmar> You know this doesn't help me when that monthly "why isn't cerkit banned" question comes up
19:02 <@Dagmar> I'm just sayin'
19:02 <+cerkit> I could give too fucking shits
19:02 <+cerkit> What you do
19:02 <+cerkit> You fucking cocksucker
19:03 <@rhia> Dagmar: side note - smoke breaks can be very good time management - i've used them to think things over, give 'talks' to team members, and, most importantly, not killed people who desperately wanted killing at the time
19:03 <+cerkit> two
19:03 < Mercster> haha
19:03 <+cerkit> Dagmar: You want to try and make me feel bad?
19:03 <@sdodson> That's what we do with people who have opinions 'round here!
19:03 <+cerkit> Go fuck yourself.
19:03 < Mercster> ya ban cerkit
19:03 < Mercster> and me
19:03 < Mercster> we're out of line
19:03  * sdodson wags his finger at Mercster 
19:04  * Mercster is duely chastened
19:04 < Mercster> duly?
19:04 <@rhia> Mercster: difference is cerkit actually contributes a lot of thoughtful discourse, you troll
19:04 < Mercster> rhia: i do not troll
19:04 <+eryc> u look like troll!
19:04 < Mercster> rhia: i shouldnt have to explain this more than once...if i believe what im saying and not just stirring shit, im not trolling
19:04 <@rhia> Mercster: of course you do, denial solves nothing
19:04 < Mercster> you need a new word for me, like, 'asshole'
19:05 < Mercster> not troll
19:05 <@rhia> nope, troll
19:05 < Mercster> well, ok
19:05 < Mercster> i understand, you're old, it's hard to learn new things
19:05 < Mercster> (ooooh)
19:05 <@rhia> assholes can be wiped and cleaned, trolls ... are just trolls
19:05 < Mercster> k, well, you learned the word 'troll' from slashdot, which makes you new to the internet
19:05 < Mercster> i cant help that
19:05 < Mercster> keep misusing words
19:06 < Mercster> watch out, ill sic cerkit on you
19:06 <+cerkit> eryc: I miss -our- discussions
19:06 < Mercster> <+cerkit> Go fuck yourself.
19:06 <+eryc> mrrr?
19:06 <+cerkit> haha
19:06 <+cerkit> they were more fun.
19:06 <@rhia> Mercster: sad little fantasy world you live in - but, guess if that's what your abilities limit you to, oh well
19:06 <+cerkit> more... dare I say... free.
19:07 < Mercster> rhia: you love grudges, dont you
19:07 <@sdodson> cerkit: how'd you piss dagmar off?
19:07 <+cerkit> sdodson: Who knows, everyone hates me *shrug*
19:07 <@rhia> Mercster: You'll sic cerkit on me? muhahahlolLOLOL
19:07 <@rhia> cerkit: i don't hates you
19:07 <@sdodson> don't believe her lies!
19:07 <+cerkit> sdosson: everyone but rhia, hates me.
19:07 <@sdodson> It's a trap
19:07 <+cerkit> :)
19:08 <@rhia> Mercster: no-one sics cerkit on anyone
19:08 <@rhia> sdodson: <hugs> ... how's the Verbal the furrball?
19:08 <+cerkit> sdodson: It was a silly argument, and I feel totally trolled into it.  I said something, and he freaked out about the way I said it.  Particularly, the way I used the word finance.  I essentially mis-used it, but, it was with some purpose.
19:08 <+cerkit> sdosson: Sort of to make the sentence sound more interesting, but, he totally lost it on me.
19:09 < Mercster> "i was wrong, but i did it on purpose"
19:09 < Mercster> good argument!
19:09 <@rhia> cerkit: sdodson wants to know so he can do it next time ;)
19:09 < Mercster> i see why rhia likes you, you never say anything close enough to 'correct' to ever threaten her ego
19:09 <@sdodson> I can't piss dagmar off cause he ignores me.
19:10 <@rhia> sdodson: ahhh
19:10 < Mercster> sdodson: hell, i was on his side and he /ignored me. i gave him the definition of troll though, and noone likes being told
19:10 <+cerkit> sdodson: I'm sure he ignored me someway through it.
19:10 <+cerkit> I would have.
19:10 <@rhia> Mercster: after ware, your trollfu is weak, sorry, try again later (much later)
19:10 < Mercster> rhia: i will continue to speak truth, you call it whatever you want, lady :)
19:11 <@sdodson> Yes, you need to learn the art of lolz
19:11 < Mercster> whatever supports your "im the wise matron of a channel of full of nerds" status
19:11 <+cerkit> sdodson: Its a fine line, especially in this channel, with bringing up a topic in the form of a question or a news line, withot people thinking you're trolling.
19:11 <@rhia> sdodson: definitely, he sorely lacks in anything but mosquito level
19:11 < Mercster> sdodson: 'lulz' is newschool
19:11  * rhia waves
19:11 < Mercster> i dont 'lulz'
19:12 <+cerkit> Sad really.
19:12 <@rhia> need to make raw bird into dinner
19:12 <+cerkit> IRC used to be a fun fucking little window.
19:12 < Mercster> seems most people in here think it's cute to unknowingly recycle dumb jokes somethingawful.com wrote years ago
19:12 <+cerkit> heh
19:12 < Mercster> cerkit: yes, when you were isolated enough to think anyone was being clever in it
19:12 <@rhia> cerkit: still can be, just mentally ignore most of the stuff, and play with the rest
19:12 < Mercster> well LET ME SHATTER YOUR DREAMS
19:13 <+cerkit> Mercster: Actually, it was before the Internet was easily accessible, to idiots like you.
19:13 <+cerkit> But, I digress.
19:13 < Mercster> cerkit: what makes you think you've been on the internet longer than me?
19:13 <+eryc> Arab investors have lost 2.5 trillion dollars from the credit crunch, Kuwaiti Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammad al-Sabah, whose country hosts an Arab economic summit next week, said on Friday.
19:13 <@rhia> Mercster: you're neither a dream nor a nightmare, but keep aiming
19:13 < Mercster> see rhia picked on me for having been on the internet for a long time
19:13 < Mercster> but now you're playing the same card
19:13 < Mercster> of course im still the asshole
19:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o cerkit] by rhia
19:13 <@cerkit> Mercster: Well, I don't know.  So, lets answer the question, when did you join us, on the Internet?
19:14 < Mercster> cerkit: who's "us"?
19:14 <@sdodson>      _             _   _       _   _   _
19:14 <@sdodson>    __| |   ___     (_) | |_    | | (_) | | __   ___
19:14 <@sdodson>   / _` |  / _ \    | | | __|   | | | | | |/ /  / _ \
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19:14 <@sdodson>   \__,_|  \___/    |_|  \__|   |_| |_| |_|\_\  \___|
19:14 <@cerkit> I don't want to assume.
19:14 <@sdodson>                                                     
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19:14 <@sdodson>  | |_  | |__   (_)  ___
19:14 <@sdodson>  | __| | '_ \  | | / __|
19:14 <@cerkit> Mercster: When did you come on the Internet, dude?
19:14 <@sdodson>  | |_  | | | | | | \__ \
19:14 <@sdodson>   \__| |_| |_| |_| |___/
19:14 < Mercster> cerkit: 1994
19:14 <@sdodson> oh sweet, a nerd dick size war!
19:14 <@cerkit> Mercster: Well, then I was on the Internet before you.  Not that its a big deal or whatever.
19:14 < Mercster> cerkit: oh, it is a big deal
19:14 <@cerkit> sdodson: Not at all, man.
19:14 < Mercster> haha
19:15 <+shadowmoss> I used to be on arpanet, does that count
19:15 <@cerkit> shadowmoss: FIDONET?
19:15 <@cerkit> :P
19:15 <+eryc> i was on sneakernet fool
19:15 <+shadowmoss> I remember fidonet, not sure the details, though
19:15 < Mercster> fidonet was largely how BBS mail worked
19:15 <@rhia> sdodson: with the flooding? not so much, k?
19:15 <+shadowmoss> it was awhile ago...
19:16 <@cerkit> I think if I rememebr right, FIDO was one of the dialup BBS packeted networks.
19:16 < Mercster> probably utilizing arpanet at some point
19:16 <@cerkit> You used to dial around and update it, BBS to BBS
19:16 < Mercster> if you remember right?
19:16 < Mercster> come on, old timer
19:16 <+eryc> uucp baby
19:16 <@cerkit> eryc: fuck yeah
19:16 <@cerkit> my GOPHA site nigga
19:16 <+shadowmoss> I remember figuring out how to send an email accross campus (Indiana University) to the physics dept. via LLL because there was no direct line
19:16 <@cerkit> !
19:16 <@cerkit> gopher ftw!
19:16 <@sdodson>   ___   _                          _        __   _                  _   _                   _
19:16 <@sdodson>  |_ _| ( )  _ __      _ _    ___  | |_     / _| | |  ___   ___   __| | (_)  _ _    __ _    (_)
19:16 <@sdodson>   | |  |/  | '  \    | ' \  / _ \ |  _|   |  _| | | / _ \ / _ \ / _` | | | | ' \  / _` |   | |
19:17 < Mercster> i used to utilize telnet holes in gopher to open remote shells and use linux 'term' to set up a pseudo-TCP/IP connection
19:17 <@sdodson>  |___|     |_|_|_|   |_||_| \___/  \__|   |_|   |_| \___/ \___/ \__,_| |_| |_||_| \__, |   |_|
19:17 <@sdodson>                                                                                   |___/
19:17 < Mercster> back around 1994
19:17 <@sdodson>     _               _                    _                _      _
19:17 <@sdodson>    (_)  _  _   ___ | |_     __ _   ___  | |_     __ _    | |__  (_)  __ _   __ _   ___   _ _
19:17 < Mercster> do you remember 'term'
19:17 <+eryc> lulz
19:17 <@sdodson>    | | | || | (_-< |  _|   / _` | / _ \ |  _|   / _` |   | '_ \ | | / _` | / _` | / -_) | '_|
19:17 < Mercster> 'term' was awesome
19:17 <@sdodson>   _/ |  \_,_| /__/  \__|   \__, | \___/  \__|   \__,_|   |_.__/ |_| \__, | \__, | \___| |_|
19:17 <@sdodson>  |__/                      |___/                                    |___/  |___/
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19:17 <@sdodson>  | |__  ___   _  _  | |__   ___   __ _   _ _   __| |
19:17 <@sdodson>  | / / / -_) | || | | '_ \ / _ \ / _` | | '_| / _` |
19:17 <@sdodson>  |_\_\ \___|  \_, | |_.__/ \___/ \__,_| |_|   \__,_|
19:17 <@sdodson> ok that keyboard sucks it types too big
19:17 <@sdodson>               |__/
19:17 <+shadowmoss> sdodson: stop with the bad graphics, 'k
19:17  * eryc goes widescreen
19:17 <@sdodson> bad? that shit was hot! gonna get me laid one day
19:18 <@sdodson> hye baby, dig my figlets
19:18 < Mercster> sdodson: thanks for trying to out-ass me, but ive said just too much that makes sense for the tide to turn away from me
19:18 < Mercster> sdodson: i appreciate the gesture, honestly
19:18 <+shadowmoss> sdodson: not sure of your target audience if that will get you laid...
19:18 <@sdodson> I need to get my friend to install figlet on my shell so i don't have to do so much work to be an ass.
19:18 <+eryc> Mercster: quit vommiting on the keyboard
19:18 < Mercster> sdodson: do you have access to gcc?
19:19 < Mercster> eryc: shut up
19:19 <@cerkit> I have to go to the bonfire thing... MAN... its gonna be cold.
19:19 < Mercster> sdodson: build it, slap it in ~/bin
19:19 <@cerkit> I gotta find some frikken layers to put on
19:19 <@sdodson> Mercster: ya i just felt really dumb after saying that
19:19 < Mercster> cant require too much beyond stdio
19:19  * Mercster hugs sdodson 
19:20 <+eryc> figlet depends on mysql now
19:20 < Mercster> heh
19:20 <@cerkit> does it really?
19:20 <+eryc> no
19:20  * Mercster stares at cerkit 
19:20 < Mercster> rhia: why arent you calling cerkit a troll for pretending to be so stupid
19:20 <@cerkit> Well, its possible man.
19:20 < Mercster> WHY
19:20 < Mercster> cerkit: no its not
19:20 <@sdodson> figlet: standard.flf: Unable to open font file
19:20 <@cerkit> They do insane shit.
19:20 <@sdodson> lolz
19:20 <+eryc> oh its possible
19:20 <@rhia> Mercster: cuz he's only pretending
19:20 <@cerkit> Mercster: You obviously haven't seen the OSS projects out there
19:20 <@cerkit> not at all
19:21 < Mercster> rhia: yeah but pretending is at the heart of trolling
19:21 <@cerkit> heh
19:21 < Mercster> it's pretending to take a stance you dont actually hold
19:21 <@cerkit> I've seen some seriously fucked up stuff
19:21 <@rhia> Mercster: no, lack of imagination is the heart of trolling
19:21 <@aestetix> Mercster: you obviously don't know cerkit :)
19:21 <@cerkit> I've contributed deltas!
19:21 < Mercster> i keep trying to explain what trolling is, it's like you just refuse to accept that i may be correct
19:21 < Mercster> aestetix: ;-)
19:22 <@cerkit> Mercster: Why do you find it so offensive to be classified as a troll?
19:22 -!- Someninjaiphone_ [n=Someninj@216.215.209.246.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600
19:22 < Mercster> rhia: no, again, that would be stupidity, or being daft, or, whatever
19:22 <@cerkit> I've been classified in this channel especially, as just about everything.
19:22 < Mercster> cerkit: not offensive really, just, incorrect
19:22 < Mercster> it's offensive because there are probably way better, correctly chosen negative terms to describe me
19:22 < Mercster> that i'd appreciate more
19:22 <@cerkit> Mercster: Some people paint in broad strokes... most people in fact, and its about their favorite colors with which they do it.
19:22 < Mercster> calling someone a 'troll' when they arent a troll...*that's* unimaginative
19:22 <@sdodson> whoah that was deep, cerkit
19:23 < Mercster> it's pretty much painting you as a newb, and i dont want that for rhia
19:23 <+mgalgoci_mini> I prefer hangover black
19:23 < Mercster> i want rhia to be relevent
19:23 <+eryc> trolling is when you try to get people to respond to a subject that you want them to
19:23 <@cerkit> sdodson: Oops, shit, sorry
19:23 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: YOU SHUTTUP
19:23  * mgalgoci_mini smears Mercster 
19:23 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: how's the mini going
19:23 <+mgalgoci_mini> good
19:23 <+mgalgoci_mini> nice little box
19:23 < Mercster> :(
19:23 <@cerkit> eryc: So basically every male has been a troll since about 13...
19:23 <@sdodson> jealous!
19:23 <@cerkit> :)
19:23 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: my birthday is wednesday
19:23  * Mercster coughs
19:23 <+eryc> indeed
19:23 <@sdodson> Mercster: Are you almost 30!??!!!!!!!!!!!
19:23 < Someninjaiphone_> Holy crap people icant keep up
19:23 < Mercster> sdodson: *CRY* MAYBE
19:23 <+mgalgoci_mini> I bought jim a mini
19:24 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: you son of a
19:24 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: think he'd give it to me?
19:24 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: im gonna start pretending to love his youtube urls
19:24 <@cerkit> sdodson: My thing about being 30 is, when I was hopelessly interested in doing almost nothing but drugs, I used to laugh at the idea of being 30.
19:25 <@cerkit> Being here, sober, is weird.
19:25 <@cerkit> Thats all.
19:25 <@sdodson> cerkit: fixit!
19:25 < Mercster> so you should be glad you made it
19:25 < Mercster> there was a time in my life i didnt think id make it to 30 either
19:25 < Mercster> course now, i dont think ill make it to 40
19:25 <@cerkit> Mercster: Its bitter sweet, thats all, lots of people didn't make it with me.
19:25 < Mercster> basically, i surprised every day im not dead
19:25 < Mercster> cerkit: suck
19:26 < Mercster> cerkit: well, now the fun part of life starts...your body starts failing in significant ways...healing takes longer
19:26 <@sdodson> oh joy, my cat has glitter in his fur
19:26 < Mercster> you'll probably come out of it more appreciative of what you DO have
19:26 < Mercster> sdodson: did she go clubbing
19:26 <@sdodson> I don't think I own any glitter.
19:26 <+mgalgoci_mini> Mercster: speaking of which, you gotta try the Angry Whopper
19:26 < Mercster> er
19:26 <+mgalgoci_mini> at BK
19:26 < Mercster> sdodson: did he go clubbing
19:26 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: angry whopper?
19:26 <+eryc> i hear the angry whopper is not very good
19:26 <@rhia> sdodson: so you say, you stardust dolphin rider, you <g>
19:27 <+eryc> the whopper facebook app was pure awesomeness
19:27 <+eryc> before it got banned
19:27 <+mgalgoci_mini> Mercster: http://tinyurl.com/9o8o6y
19:27 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: hahahah
19:28 <@sdodson> I hate how google is just a wikipedia proxy
19:28 < Mercster> So what is the Angry Whopper? It’s a Whopper with spicy crispy onions, jalapeños, pepper jack cheese, bacon, tomatoes, lettuce, mayonnaise, and spicy Angry Sauce.
19:28 < Mercster> hmm
19:28 < Mercster> i like all those ideas, except 'angry sauce'.
19:28 < Mercster> id have to know what angry sauce was
19:28 <+eryc> it could be a knol proxy..
19:29 < Mercster> 'sauce' can be very bad
19:29 < Mercster> like the big mac sauce
19:29 < Mercster> i dunno how anyone can eat big macs
19:29 < Mercster> with thousand island dressing dripping all over their meat
19:29 < Mercster> that just aint natural
19:29 < Mercster> now if angry sauce is like, some pepper mayo or something, that's cool
19:29 < Mercster> i hope it isnt some bbq derivitive
19:29 < Mercster> cuz i hate bbq sauce
19:29 <@sdodson> I imagine it's a horchraddish mayo.
19:30 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: you're right, i do need to try the angry burger. have you had one?
19:30  * sdodson can't spell
19:30 < Mercster> sdodson: that would be cool
19:30 <+mgalgoci_mini> yes
19:30 <+mgalgoci_mini> just now
19:30 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: whats the angry sauce?
19:30 <+mgalgoci_mini> pissed off in a bottle
19:30 <+mgalgoci_mini> on a bun
19:30 < Mercster> daaaaamn
19:30 < Mercster> hm
19:30 < Mercster> i go shopping this weekend, maybe while im out ill get an angry whopper
19:31 <+eryc> http://dietcokediaries.wordpress.com/2008/12/24/angry-sauce/
19:32 < Mercster> hmm
19:32 <+eryc> http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/586702
19:32 < Mercster> ambiguous
19:32 <@sdodson> That guy is a moron
19:32 <@sdodson> "Our diet coke lasts two days before going flat" wtf it's mixed as it's made in the fountain
19:34 <@cerkit> Mercster: How old are you?
19:35 < Mercster> ill be 32 in a few days
19:35 <@cerkit> Thats cool.
19:36 < Mercster> would you like to get me a dell mini for my birthday?
19:36 < Mercster> we could break this whole freedom/finance fiasco
19:37 < Mercster> ill be free, you do the finance
19:37 <@cerkit> I don't buy people birthday presents.
19:37 < Mercster> SON OF A
19:37 < Mercster> ok
19:38 <@cerkit> Mercster
19:38 <@cerkit> I want to unravel the mystery, that is you, my friend.
19:38 <@cerkit> But, unfortunately, I have to go to that bonfire.
19:38 < Mercster> have fun
19:38 <@sdodson> Strange pickup line.
19:39 < Mercster> sdodson: im oddly flattered
19:39 < Mercster> i have butterflies deep inside
19:39 <@cerkit> sdodson: I'd like to give him a chance to prove he's not what everyone says he is.
19:39 <@cerkit> Thats all.
19:39 < Mercster> who is 'everyone'
19:39 <+mgalgoci_mini> Mercster: hey assclown
19:39 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: WHAT
19:43 < Mercster> bleh, NOW is on my tv
19:44 <@sdodson> NOW?
19:44 < Mercster> ultra-liberal news magazine thing on PBS
19:44 < Mercster> used to be hosted by bill moyers
19:44 < Mercster> jackoff extraordinaire
19:45 < Mercster> now they have some other ladyman doing it
19:45 <@sdodson>        _
19:45 <@sdodson>   ___ | |__
19:45 <@sdodson>  / _ \| '_ \
19:45 <@sdodson> | (_) | | | |
19:45 <@sdodson>  \___/|_| |_|
19:45 < Mercster> it still sucks
19:45 <@sdodson>              
19:45 < Mercster> figlet FTW
19:45 <@sdodson> ya, now i just need to find a really annoying font
19:46 -!- sdodson was kicked from #se2600 by aestetix [be less gay]
19:46 < Mercster> aestetix: maybe he has the gay gene and cant help it, you racist
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19:50 < Mercster> sdodson: i defended your gay gene, dont worry
19:50 <@sdodson> Mercster: Thanks.
19:50 <+mgalgoci_mini> I didn't even see sdodson leave the channel
19:50 < Mercster> mgalgoci_mini: mini's screen too small
19:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mgalgoci_mini] by sdodson
19:51 <@mgalgoci_mini> whoo
19:51 <@sdodson> do naut hax teh gibzon
19:51 <@sdodson> but do be kicking Mercster
19:51 < Mercster> kick trolls, not Mercster
19:52 < Mercster> er, kick Mercster, not trolls
19:53 < Mercster> i must eat
19:53 <@sdodson> What size terminal do you get on the mini?
19:53 <@sdodson> like 25x100 or so?
19:54 <@sdodson> ahw, angry sauce is weaker than lava sauce
19:56 <+eryc> weaksauce
19:56 <@mgalgoci_mini> Mercster: I have jack and coffee
20:02 < Mercster> im making tuna and noodles
20:02 < Mercster> with beer
20:02 < Mercster> in seperate containers
20:05 < Mercster> G4 showing blade runner
20:05 <@sdodson> I need a htpc :(
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20:06 <@mgalgoci_mini> sdodson: you need a ps3
20:07 <@sdodson> A ps3 will play x264 video over the network?
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20:12 <@Dagmar> sdodson: Depends entirely on how many chickens you're willing to sacrific.
20:12 <@Dagmar> It'll play a lot of shit, in theory.
20:12 <@Dagmar> In practice, it generally depends on the file being encoded in a few very specific ways for each container.
20:13 <@Dagmar> Normal MythTV recording as produced by a Hauppauge card: Plays fine
20:14 <@Dagmar> "Lossless" transcoded MythTV recording with commercials removed: Claims corrupted data
20:14 <@Dagmar> both being bog-standard mpg files
20:16 <@sdodson> Have the figured out how to use the frame buffer in linux or is it still just textmode?
20:16 <@Dagmar> Dunno.  I'll be damned if I'll bother installing Linux on a PS3 when I can build a machine for cheaper.
20:17 <@sdodson> Cheaper than $300 or so?
20:17 <@Dagmar> Yep.  Hardware prices have gotten disturbing
20:17 <@sdodson> I don't think any of the atoms will decode x264 at 1080p
20:17 <@sdodson> x264 at 1080p is really my only requirement.
20:18 <@Dagmar> Without getting the for-pay AVC decoder you're basically looking at a 2.2Ghz core minimum requirement on x86
20:18 <@Dagmar> h.264 1080 is resource hungry like longcat is looooong.
20:19 <@Dagmar> vdpau is changing that a bit, but it'll probably be another 6 months before that clue is widespread
20:20 <@Dagmar> As far as the $300 is concerned, you can get a PS3 to play "some" videos like that, using the PS3 software.
20:20 <@Dagmar> It ain't playin a damn thing as well with Linux installed.
20:21 <@sdodson> I'll have to see about getting my floors reinforced to support a ps3 though.
20:33 <+eryc> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Captain-CB-Sully-Sullenberger/45557497235
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20:38 <@sdodson> bah, mac rumors has an article asking if the next mac mini would be atom based.
20:38 <@sdodson> that'd suck
20:40 <+ware> LOL
20:41 <+ware> hey Dagmar op me
20:41 <+eryc> no me first
20:41 <+ware> no eryc first
20:41 < Mercster> op Dagmar
20:41 < Mercster> he's great
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20:44 < Mercster> speak of the devil
20:53 <@cerkit> eryc: That dude can fly a lil bit.
20:54 <@m0j0-j0j0> cerkit: Superman?
20:54 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTCbgHS13X8
20:55 <@cerkit> yeah
20:55 <@cerkit> thats pretty sick
20:56 <@cerkit> I always wondered what an IDE would be like when software interfaces had become essentially entirely that.
20:57 <@cerkit> Yeah, see, no IDE demo.
20:57 <@sdodson> Mercster: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/01/10/dell-announces-a-subsidized-inspiron-mini-9-for-99/
20:58 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Don't bother.
20:59 <@Dagmar> It's $99 after a $350 MIR.
20:59 <@sdodson> And $60/month contract
20:59 <@Dagmar> Oh, and lets not forget the two year AT&T contract.
20:59 < Mercster> yeah, fuck that
20:59 <@Dagmar> So, anothter $1440.
20:59 < Mercster> i wouldnt mind doing the rebate
20:59 < Mercster> rebates dont scare me
20:59 < Mercster> contracts do
20:59 < Mercster> i think dell has some refurbished minis
20:59 < Mercster> for like $200
21:00 < Mercster> i gotta look into that
21:00 <@sdodson> they're only $299 anyway
21:00 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: where in stormwind is that recipe guy?
21:00 <@Dagmar> Kinda odd tho that a laptop is being positioned for sales like a cell phone now
21:00 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Old Town, i.e., "The bit immediately right of the trade district"
21:00 < Mercster> dagmar: it's sort of half of a laptop, really...or, a glorified phone
21:00 <@Dagmar> Right along the northeastern wall there
21:01 <@Evilpig> k.  thx  I was looking through trade
21:01 < Mercster> sdodson: $300 barebones
21:01 < Mercster> sdodson: more like $450 how id want it
21:01 <@sdodson> Interesting how Dell only offers the 4GB version with ubuntu. The 8gb version with xp but ubuntu for $10 prmeium
21:01 < Mercster> max ram, big ssd
21:02 < Mercster> plus you pretty much need the external dvd drive
21:02 <@sdodson> You said you only needed it for irc and porn!
21:02 <@cerkit> that deal is http://imagefarm.net/images/3z86cdl938i3spl6b3a2.jpg
21:03 < Mercster> gross dude
21:03 <@sdodson> Must be Booty Sweat
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21:03 < Mercster> sdodson: yeah but come on, if yer gonna get a netbook...
21:03 < Mercster> they're weak anyway
21:03 <@m0j0-j0j0> I just bought a second eee pc
21:04 <@m0j0-j0j0> they're only $200
21:04 <@sdodson> I didn't know they offered them with 2GB and 64GB ssd
21:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: both of mine are at 8GB
21:05 <@cerkit> Everyone's getting these... netbooks.
21:05 < Mercster> not me :(
21:06 <@cerkit> What are they for?
21:06 <@sdodson> not me
21:06 <@Dagmar> It's cause they're worried a Nintendo DS would be a blow to their masculinity
21:06 <@cerkit> ahaha
21:06 <@Dagmar> ...although that's merely speculation..
21:06 <@cerkit> The closest thing I have is my iPod Touch
21:07 <@Dagmar> They're not that badly priced, but they're all not that much notebook either.
21:07 < Mercster> i have a sony clie
21:07 <@cerkit> Shit runs Apache
21:07 < Mercster> netbooks are the new PDA
21:07 <@cerkit> I could bitchx from that thing.
21:08 <@sdodson> ya but they don't fit in my pocket
21:08 <@cerkit> As horrible asi t would be.
21:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: cheaper and more useful than my old Palm T|C
21:08 <@sdodson> I should turn on my fireplace, maybe that'll make me feel warmer.
21:08 <@cerkit> my Touch as a fucking VNC client.
21:08 <@cerkit> I used it once, it was insane.
21:08 <@Dagmar> m0j0-j0j0: Being that I am using a Palm T|X at the moment, I call foul.
21:08 <@cerkit> You try to move two windows around and its a nightmare.
21:09 <@Dagmar> It's no fair using that as a comparison when a fresh and still wrapped tampon would serve the same role.
21:09 <@sdodson> A tastey treat?
21:09 <@sdodson> oh fresh, nevermind
21:09 <@Dagmar> I was thinking, small... portable... kind of fits in the pocket... not useful for much, even as a paperweight... rather awkward to be seen using in public... etc
21:11 < Mercster> i love PDAs, man
21:11 < Mercster> ive had billions of them
21:11 < Mercster> or, at least 8
21:11 < Mercster> but they're out now
21:11 < Mercster> PDAs are out, phones are in
21:11 < Mercster> but i hate phones
21:11 < Mercster> so i want a netbook
21:11 <@sdodson> i can see it being a useful ebook
21:11 <@Dagmar> ONOES SHE R A CYLON!
21:11 < Mercster> sdodson: that's another thing i want, the amazon thing
21:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: I loved my PalmT but my eeepc is much better at browsering and flash and streaming and such
21:12 <@Dagmar> At this point, I wouldn't really mind seeing both the humans and the cyclons wiped out and the galaxy taken over by a nice tribe of space-faring herbivores.
21:12 <@sdodson> i'm not a fan of carrying multiple things around
21:12 <@Dagmar> m0j0-j0j0: Again, I call foul.  Blazer is not a browser.  Blazer is a tool for self flagellation.
21:12 <@sdodson> i bought veggie burgers i'm on my way to being a hipster!
21:12 <@cerkit> The best space show of all time... is Red Dwarf
21:13 < Mercster> sdodson: stop having a boring tuna
21:13 <@sdodson> I use blazer more than I use opera mini
21:13 <@cerkit> I used to turn that on and have no fucking idea what was going on
21:13 <@cerkit> and still watch it
21:13 < Mercster> cerkit: whatever, smeghead
21:14 <@Dagmar> BSG isn't much different.
21:14 <@cerkit> smeg
21:14 <@Dagmar> ...except if you go to the trouble to figure out what's going on, you don't laugh, you just have a nagging feeling of disappointment.
21:15 <@cerkit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cD8E1HTTRc
21:15 <@cerkit> its never disappointing
21:20 <@cerkit> I haven't seen that show in a long, long time
21:21 <@Dagmar> Oh dear.
21:22 <@m0j0-j0j0> deer
21:22 <@Dagmar> I was right
21:24 <+ware> lolnoobs
21:24 <+ware> whats up
21:27 <+ware> http://chuckpalahniuk.net/forum/1000026/stop-having-boring-tuna-stop-having-boring-life
21:35 <@sdodson> you gonna love my nuts!
21:35 <@Dagmar> Interesting.
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21:36 <+eryc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smegma
21:37 <@Dagmar> W. T. F.
21:37 <@Dagmar> NSFW link!
21:38 <@Dagmar> ...although damn.... on wikipedia?
21:38 <@Dagmar> Freaky
21:39 <@sdodson> wikipedia has lots of genitalia
21:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> like hermaphrodites?
21:44 <@sdodson> Me, no, but Mercster probably does.
21:45 < Mercster> An early study by Plaut and Kohn-Speyer (1947)[11] found that horse smegma had a carcinogenic effect on mice.
21:45 < Mercster> how in the fuck does that experiment get proposed
21:47 < Mercster> "So ahh...yeah...for the new academic year, I propose we rub dickcheese on mice"
21:47 < Mercster> "WHATTYA SAY"
21:47 <+ware> lolmojo mojolol
21:48 <+ware> 18:53 <@byte_buck> A perl haiku:
21:48 <+ware> 18:53 <@byte_buck> Unreadable code,
21:48 <+ware> 18:53 <@byte_buck> Why would anyone use it?
21:48 <+ware> 18:53 <@byte_buck> Learn a better way.
21:50 <@Dagmar> Please dont' pasteflood the ramblings of morons in here.
21:51 <@Dagmar> Your own idiocy is enough all by itself, thanks.
21:52 <+ware> i aint post no idiocy
22:03 <+eryc> http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8250/11873an1.jpg
22:03 <@sdodson> that looks like an album cover
22:04 < Mercster> looks like me after a day when i miss my meds
22:04 < Mercster> sdodson: special edition 'wish you were here'?
22:05 <@Dagmar> LSD does bad things to stupid people.
22:06 <@sdodson> the union of lsd and stupid or lsd implies stupid?
22:06 < Mercster> i bet dagmar's never seen LSD, let alone eaten it
22:06 <@sdodson> I guess that's not the union
22:08 < Mercster> http://www.iheartguts.com/recall/
22:09 < Mercster> who hasnt choked on reproductive organs at least once, amirite
22:30 <+eryc> its 3 outside
22:33 <@Dagmar> What the hell...
22:33 <@Dagmar> You'd think that by now sales people would realize that faking a robot THIS flagrantly is just going to piss people off
22:33 <@Dagmar> http://www.buy.com/videoclip/hoover-robot/73340.html?adid=17315&dcaid=17315
23:14 <+eryc> http://i42.tinypic.com/2mhhtap.jpg
23:15 <@Dagmar> Copied.
23:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> housemates, you are live on channel four.  Please do not swear.
23:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> Vern "mini me" is one of the housemates on celebrity big brother in the uk
23:31 <+eryc> Copied?
23:31 <+eryc> http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_11463340
23:42 <@Dagmar> m0j0-j0j0: I wonder if he'll get plastered
23:43 <@brimstone> Dagmar: he already did
23:50 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: drunk and hitting on LaToya Jackson
23:50 <+eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvwOYoziT2A
23:54 <@Dagmar> lWell, if he can still make himself understood, he's doing better than he did on Surreal Life.
23:54 <@Dagmar> He was speaking some dialect of slurvanese there.
23:54 <@Dagmar> The only person who could understand him was the guy from the Brady Bunch, which kinda says something about their off-the-set life.
23:56 <+eryc> http://selfdestruct.net/misc/geneve.jpg
23:56 <+eryc> now thats cold ^
23:59 <+eryc> http://www.jeremygaddis.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/11982893749011.jpg
23:59 <+eryc> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/foto/7f8dad84_humanity.jpg
23:59 <+eryc> http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-08/iq-range-occupations.jpg
23:59 <+eryc> http://tofslie.com/work/apple_evolution.jpg
23:59 <+eryc> http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2008/02/01/SeaCableHi.jpg
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