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00:00 < dasunt> On the plus side, I ran out of ice cubes today, so I put a tray on my doorstep.  Icecubes in under an hour!
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00:01 < Mercster> i lived in iowa/nebraska for a few years
00:01 < Mercster> never again
00:03 <@sasquatc4> thats why i like it here, denver gets a bad rap cause when the news reports on denvers weather they also include the mountains, but they are like 2 completely different weather areas
00:04 <@sasquatc4> so everyone thinks denver has like constant snow in the winter and blizzards and shit
00:04 < Mercster> yeah
00:04 < Mercster> some areas get lucky that way
00:04 < Mercster> tennessee valley is similar, it has its own sort of weather system
00:05 < Mercster> most shit just passes over
00:07 < dasunt> Oh god.
00:08 < dasunt> The vegetarians are talking about smokers and children.
00:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> you devil
00:08 < dasunt> right now, smoking in your house is worse than beating your children.
00:08  * dasunt can't make this shit up.
00:08 < dasunt> "Assaulting children with poisonous fumes like the kind produced when parents smoke tobacco, is probably worse than smacking them around moderatelty"
00:09 <@m0j0-j0j0> what do they say about putting out the butts on your children?
00:09 < dasunt> " Smacking them around enough to cause cuts and bruises, without breaking any bones - the injuries heal. Smoking is worse."
00:09 < dasunt> Burns heal, right?
00:09 < Mercster> dasunt: im sure you heard a few days ago the dust up about "third hand smoke"
00:09 < dasunt> So I think the 2nd hand smoke is worse.
00:09 < dasunt> Mercster: This is what the thread is about.
00:09 < dasunt> Dunno WTF '3rd hand' smoke is.
00:10 < Mercster> im pretty sure its thiking about smoke
00:10 < Mercster> which is emotionally harmful
00:10 < dasunt> As a race, we really suck at managing risk, don't we?
00:10 < Mercster> it's a wonder anyone survives past the age of 3
00:11 < Mercster> with all the horrors
00:11 < dasunt> ""Third-hand" smoke — which lingers in cars, on furniture and on smokers themselves after a cigarette is extinguished — leaves toxic chemicals that crawling children can ingest, say pediatricians."
00:12 < dasunt> "The researchers surveyed 1,500 U.S. households to learn about parents' attitudes toward third-hand smoke. They found 65 per cent of non-smokers and 43 per cent of smokers agreed that third-hand smoke can harm the health of children."
00:12  * dasunt sighs.
00:12 < dasunt> I think I'm going to become a researcher.
00:13 < dasunt> I thought I would have to do actual research in a lab to figure out if something is harmful or harmless, but I guess I can poll the population at large.
00:13  * dasunt prepares to release his shocking report:  Hydrogen dioxide, the deadly liquid.
00:13 < Mercster> dasunt: you should have more respect for feelings
00:13 < Mercster> this is the obama age
00:14 < Mercster> feelings matter
00:17 < dasunt> But I've done tests.
00:17 < dasunt> Did you know that Obama has trace amounts of harmful heavy metals?
00:17 <@m0j0-j0j0> std?
00:18 < dasunt> There's even some radioactive isotopes amoungst the atoms that make up his body.
00:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> heavy metal
00:18 < dasunt> Clearly, he should be kept away from others.
00:18 < Mercster> you racist
00:19 < dasunt> But, but, he might have some uranium in him at .001 parts per million!
00:19 < dasunt> Think of the children you cruel, heartless bastard!
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00:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> the cake is a lie
01:23 < shadowmoss> ping
01:23  * shadowmoss wanders off to bed
01:43 <@m0j0-j0j0> out
02:03 <@DigitalIrony> WTF?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfLAv3JHRwY
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07:37 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:05 <@TheLightCosine> yo d0le
08:05 <@Dolemite> sup?
08:06 <@Dolemite> Did you read this interview with the adware developer that's linked on /.?
08:08 <@TheLightCosine> no
08:08 <@Dolemite> http://philosecurity.org/2009/01/12/interview-with-an-adware-author
08:09 <@TheLightCosine>  Yes, I did.  I got to write half of it in Scheme, which probably means that I deployed more Scheme runtime than anybody else on the planet. <-rofl
08:13 <@TheLightCosine> wow
08:13 <@TheLightCosine> this is some insidious shit
08:15 <@m0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: you mean irc in general or just se2600 ;)
08:16 <@m0j0-j0j0> got to head to work... bbl
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09:15 <@TheLightCosine> hrm
09:16 <@TheLightCosine> hrm
09:16 <@TheLightCosine> sysinterals PS tools can be run against an entire domain..
09:16 <@TheLightCosine> that brings up so many very frightening possibilities
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09:19  * shadowmoss wanders in
09:19 <@TheLightCosine> how goes it shadowmoss
09:19 < shadowmoss> busy
09:19 < shadowmoss> I'm moving to Tacoma at the end of the month
09:19 < shadowmoss> Ft. Lewis
09:20 <@Dolemite> What kind of job did you get there?
09:21 < shadowmoss> Civilian working as computer hardware geek and trainer on the same software I've been working on the past 1.5 years
09:21 < shadowmoss> same company as I was with
09:22 < shadowmoss> one contract (fielding, installing, training) drew to a close, so I had to jump to another contract
09:22 <@Dolemite> aha
09:22 < shadowmoss> a-who
09:23 < shadowmoss> ?
09:23 <@TheLightCosine> hey no need for name calling
09:23 <@Dolemite> Well I talked to NotLarry last night.  He didn't know any of the details, he just knew he had to find a new place to live.
09:23 < shadowmoss> yeah, well...
09:23 <@Dolemite> I told him about this van
09:23 <@Dolemite> down by the river
09:23 < shadowmoss> :)
09:23 <@Dolemite> *rim shot*
09:24 < shadowmoss> yeah, I have someone coming this weekend to look at the place, either to just work on it for me, or to take it over
09:49 <@nachoguy> shadowmoss, that's kinda neat
09:50 <@nachoguy> I'm sure given the option you'd want to stay where you're at, but being the outdoorsy person you are, the pac NW should be right up your alley
09:52 <@nachoguy> When I visited, I LOVED driving down the 101
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10:22 <@Catonic> http://xkcd.com/530/
10:22 <@Catonic> # osascript -e "set Volume 10"
10:22 <@Catonic> # osascript -e 'say "Let Me In"'
10:22 <@TheLightCosine> heh
10:23 <@TheLightCosine> "Stand back, I know RegEx!"
10:24 <@Shadow404> one small problem, if it goes through an external amp speaker, even if you turn the system volume up, its still gonna be quiet
10:25  * shadowmoss glomps Catonic 
10:25  * Shadow404 feels left out of the glomping...
10:25 < shadowmoss> nachoguy: yeah, I'm keeping the good points in mind as I pack
10:25  * shadowmoss hugs Shadow404 
10:25  * Catonic runs for the shower, washes off the glomp, and puts on a fresh coat of antiglomperant
10:26  * shadowmoss dumps Catonic into the bit bucket
10:26 < R3d2Dawn> Can someone correct me if I am wrong on this statement as followed: (I am trying to make sure I understand LGPL and GPL)
10:26 < shadowmoss> well, the closest storage place doesn't have any temp controlled units
10:27 < shadowmoss> sigh
10:27 < R3d2Dawn> LGPL prevents companies from using libraries for gain of money?
10:28 <@critch> R3d2Dawn: no gpl license stops a company from gaining money, they only prevent you from closing up the source of already gpled code
10:28 <@critch> R3d2Dawn: the deterent to gaining money on gpl code is only because anyone can create the same company with the same code
10:29 < R3d2Dawn> what about LGPL though?
10:29 <@polerin> the LGPL is a GPL license
10:29 <@Catonic> R3d2Dawn: the only thing stopping anyone from exploiting GPL or LGPL software is .... nothing.
10:29 <@critch> R3d2Dawn: lgpl is called the lesser gpl and basically doesn't have the "viral" portion of the gpl license. Basically it doesn't force everything it touches to be gpl also
10:29 <@Catonic> only the BSD license has been proven in court.
10:29 <@nachoguy> shadowmoss, have you been out there much?
10:30 < shadowmoss> nope, new territory
10:30 <@nachoguy> Catonic, nope, the GPL was tested, not in the US though.  I think in Germany
10:30 <@Catonic> ok, so the GPL works in germany, but no where else.
10:30 <@nachoguy> Unless washington is much different than Oregon (and I don't think it is), I think you'll enjoy it.
10:31 <@polerin> Catonic: that's innacurate
10:31 <@nachoguy> Catonic, But BSD is dying, netcraft confirms it
10:31 <@TheLightCosine> poor bsd
10:31 <@polerin> it's not  having been tested in the court does not mean it is ineffective, rather it can mean that it is effective
10:32 < R3d2Dawn> Ok, thanks
10:33 <@critch> R3d2Dawn: are you planning a project with lgpl or gpl code, or thinking about how to release code?
10:34 < R3d2Dawn> Not as of yet, just trying to get a better understanding of it all
10:35 <@Catonic> it's schrodinger's software license by that logic.
10:35 < R3d2Dawn> I have been so confined to the world of Microsoft and been to lazy (but mostly work related) to seek alternative computer lifestyle
10:35 <@Catonic> R3d2Dawn: BSD: Do what you want with it. Make money off of it, or don't. Make as many copies as you want.
10:35 <@Drag0n`> is BSD on the box or isnt it? start the system to find out?
10:35 <@Catonic> GPL: Make copies of the source and distribute with the project (on request)
10:35 <@nachoguy> plus, microsoft can take your work, incorporate it as their own and give you no credit for it.  Isn't that awesome!
10:36 <@Catonic> nachoguy: worked for apple.
10:36 <@nachoguy> Catonic and MS's network stack for win2k
10:36 <@critch> R3d2Dawn: gpl code requires you handle it at an arms length and be able to replace it or you are required to release as gpl too. lgpl doesn't have those requirements, but you still need to distribute the changes of the lgpl portions.
10:37  * Catonic makes like a tree and germinates in shit
10:37 <@TheLightCosine> gah
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10:38 <@TheLightCosine> an exec created an important document on his mac and sent it to other execs, but it has no file extension and they aren't 1005 sure what app he used but they want me to convert it into a .doc somehow
10:38 <@polerin> nachoguy: or more accurately.. Apple can make money off of your work
10:38 <@TheLightCosine> i'm looking at it in a hex editor to try and find some sort of helpful metadata
10:38 <@critch> TheLightCosine: use file
10:38 <@polerin> TheLightCosine: and you find "I like to felatiate baby pinguins" in there?
10:38 <@polerin> or hwever it's spelled?
10:39 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtOW1CxHvNY
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10:39 <@TheLightCosine> so far it's msotly gibberish to me, the only decent bit of info i got was "[Content_Types].xml
10:40 <@TheLightCosine> critch: ?
10:40 <@critch> TheLightCosine: file <document in question>
10:40 <@critch> TheLightCosine: you will find it is a docx filetype
10:41 <@critch> TheLightCosine: It is the newest office word file format, a zip file with xml files in it.
10:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> critch: you could also run string on it
10:42 < R3d2Dawn> Thanks again everyone for the input. Its allot clear now than what I was reading via wikipedia
10:43 <@TheLightCosine> heh good call
10:43 <@TheLightCosine> i thoguht about that but when word couldn't recognize the charchter encoding i thgouht it wasn't right
10:43 <@TheLightCosine> didn't try adding the extension back on first tho
10:43 <@critch> M0j0-j0j0: string is interested rarelt
10:43 <@critch> damn off keys
10:43 <@TheLightCosine> please remember i am cursed to be on a windows machine
10:44 <@critch> M0j0-j0j0: string reports too often on crap alphas that are close
10:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> critch: agreed, but sometime it's a quick way... usually all I need is the first few bytes of the file to tell you what it is anyway
10:44 <@critch> TheLightCosine: looks like you need a good linux box close by for diagnosis of problems. I showed a group at a CHS hospital in '99 how nice a linux box was at diagnosing a netowrk problem.
10:45 <@critch> M0j0-j0j0: that is why file is so much nicer, all those first few bytes of a file have been put into a magic file that file uses to diagnose what type of file you handed it.
10:46 <@TheLightCosine> I'd kill to get them to elt me to set up a nix box here enxt to my workstation lol
10:47 <@Dolemite> TheLightCosine : Install virtualbox and run a VM of linux on it
10:47 <@M0j0-j0j0> or at least install cygwin
10:47 <@TheLightCosine> i mgiht be able to get away with thart
10:47 <@TheLightCosine> we actually have vm licenses but i doubt they'd give me one
10:47 <@Dolemite> http://www.virtualbox.org
10:47 <@Dolemite> Virtualbox is free
10:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> lots of gpl vms out there
10:48 <@TheLightCosine> i head virtualbox is actually better too
10:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> VMs that is not VMS
10:48 <@Dolemite> All you need is a player, anyway.  You can download an appliance VM of Ubuntu
10:48 <@critch> M0j0-j0j0: have you looked at /usr/share/file/magic?
10:48 <@Dolemite> Yeah, for a simple workstation, Virtualbox is teh bombdiggity.  Way better than VMWare Player, much less bloat than VMWare Workstation.
10:49 < eryc> lies
10:50 <@TheLightCosine> lol vms
10:50 <@TheLightCosine> we still have some vms/vax systems
10:51 <@nachoguy> I also enjoy the clean, crisp taste of virtualbox
10:52 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Less filling!
10:53 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : How's your apfelwein doing?  Bubbling like a coffee pot yet?
10:53 <@nachoguy> it did that already and has slowed a little
10:53 <@Drag0n`> but if you have a spare system with lots of poer, VMWare ESXi rocks
10:53 <@Drag0n`> power
10:53 <@nachoguy> Dragon, is that free now?
10:54 <@Dolemite> Ah, after a couple of weeks it's a good idea to pick it up and stir it around to wake the yeast back up
10:54 <@Drag0n`> yep
10:54 <@Drag0n`> got a system here and i like it a lot more than vmware server
10:54 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, just shake it a bit, or use a wine thief to actually stir it?
10:54 <@nachoguy> vmware server was awful last time I tried to use it
10:54 <@Dolemite> I just pick up the whole carboy and move it around in a circle to get the wort circulating
10:54 <@Dolemite> so yeah, shake it a bit
10:54 <@nachoguy> the overhead made it almost useless
10:55 <@nachoguy> I can definately do that
10:55 <@nachoguy> should that be a weekly thing?
10:55 <@Drag0n`> yeah, esxI installs to a 32 meg partition, very low overhead
10:55 <@Dolemite> My current batch is kind of an ice brew...   I've got it in a room that stays about 60F and I'm using evaporative cooling to drop the fermenter down to close to 55F
10:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> critch: nope
10:55 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Only do it once or twice total after the inital setup
10:56 <@Dolemite> You definitely want the yeast good and settled on the bottom before you're ready to extract
10:56 <@Drag0n`> esxi supports up to 32 cpu's and 256gb ram on the host and 4 cpu's and 64gb on the guest os
10:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> does anyone know how to set up alpine to use the same mailbox as evolution?
10:57 <@nachoguy> ok, well, it's in my basement, temp is about 68
10:57 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: thats the lesson i learned after my first 5gal batch
10:57 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : What, to not stir the wort too often?
10:57 <@nachoguy> what does the 55F temp get you?
10:58 <@Dolemite> It causes the yeast to ferment slower, which reduces the chance for nasty tasting esters to be produced
10:58 <@Drag0n`> nachoguy, pointy nipples?
10:58 <@nachoguy> both valid options =>
11:06 <@nachoguy> actually, for the virtualbox users, has anyone gotten linux on linux seamless applications to work?
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11:07 <@TheLightCosine> hrm virtualbox is actually very un-GPL
11:08 < ware> vbox is win
11:14 <@TheLightCosine> damn something on the system is preventing the install of virtualbox
11:21 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGhzwMiSzIM
11:26 <@polerin> anyone have a MSSQL server I could use to test out a cakephp ticket?|
11:31 <@Dolemite> You can always install SQLExpress, it's free (as in beer)
11:36 <@polerin> I was hoping to have to avoid that kind of thing ;p
11:43 <@aestetix> huh
11:43 <@aestetix> apparently there is a powerpoint perl library
11:43  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
11:43 <@TheLightCosine> there are perllibs for everything
11:44 <@polerin> Dolemite: did you hear about what happened with the state speaker of the house election?
11:44 <@Dolemite> yeah
11:45 <@TheLightCosine> ?
11:45 <@Dolemite> One Republican made a deal with the Democrats to steal the speakership from Mumpower.  I don't know that that's a bad thing from what I've heard about Mumpower's views.
11:46 <@Dolemite> He tended to consider a 1 member majority a "mandate for the right"
11:59 <@polerin> yeah
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12:04 <@polerin> we'll see how this plays out in the long run, but in the short term it's sorta funny
12:04 < ware> Lazy Nation Fears Obama Will Create Millions Of Jobs
12:05 <@Dolemite> http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/11/when_will_barack_obama_come_cl.html
12:05 <@Dolemite> Admit it, Barack!  You likes teh comic books!
12:28 <@scort>  http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/its-not-gay-if-you-beat-them-up-afterwards/
12:32 <@scort> http://threadbombing.com/data/media/2/girl_scooter.gif
12:38 < eryc> http://i40.tinypic.com/21c9phc.jpg
12:44 <@scort> http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/58/l_71dce365255a41ef8f17589958b1f18f.gif lol whos this clown
12:50  * Corydon76-dig pokes polerin 
12:51 <@aestetix> dongz
12:51 <@scort> rumsfeld
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13:02 <@Dolemite> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090114/ap_on_re_us/train_station_shooting_11
13:02 <@Dolemite> they finally arrested the BART officer and charged him with homicide
13:03 <@Corydon76-dig> First degree?
13:06 <@Dolemite> doesn't say
13:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Ugh, story was corrected to say that he was arrested for homicide, not murder
13:10 <@Corydon76-dig> I hope the state attorney goes for first degree
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13:21 <@rhia> today is another classic xkcd
13:23 <@maco> wow yeah
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13:55 <@aestetix> vagina
14:20 < eryc> "Hamas has accepted an Egyptian ceasefire deal with Israel"
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14:40 <@Drag0n`> hamas has accepted that egypt will no longer fire on israel? when did they start bombing anyone <g>
14:41 <@Drag0n`> got to love bad editing in the media
14:41 < stfustfu> <g>
14:53 <@Corydon76-dig> and Israel will accept the ceasefire as soon as the last Hamas militant is dead
14:54 <@nachoguy> I think we should wall off that area, fill it with water, and turn it into a water park.
14:55 <@Corydon76-dig> The Dead Sea is pretty much already a water park, in terms of tourists
14:55 <@nachoguy> exactly
14:56 <@Corydon76-dig> such high salinity that everybody floats
14:56 <@nachoguy> also, only allow inflatable rafts.  No big boats
14:56 <@Corydon76-dig> even people who aren't shaped like sdodson
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15:00 <@rhia> Bush says he got 7.5 of 8 hurricanes right
15:03 <@Drag0n`> wall it off, put a lid on it, and fill it up, then seal it off with 2" of air at the top
15:05 <@rhia> just run them all thru the stars machine a couple hundred times
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15:15 <@Drag0n`> will they have stars upon thars?
15:16 <@rhia> get 'em all mixed up - some bellies with stars and some none upon thars
15:17 <@Drag0n`> wonder if the stars will be of tha david kind?
15:21 <@nachoguy> god, this day is dragging on
15:40 <@rhia> nachoguy: still Monday?
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15:43 <@scort> screen
15:43 <@nachoguy> rhia, yeah, but it's been better than the monday I had yesterday
15:45 <@nachoguy> but I've got T-minus 15 minutes to a meeting that I get to attend where lots of people will be very angry, and I will get to have no official opinion
15:45 <@nachoguy> on the plus side, yay Chicago Blizzard!
15:48 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAN7Ts0xBo
15:48 <@rhia> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/12/top-recruiter-weighs-fat-_n_157090.html  Fat Camp For Army Recruits
15:50 <@brimstone> in reference to the picture form rhia's link, isn't the PT test just push-ups, sit-ups and a two-minute run?
15:50 <@brimstone> wow, wait a minute, a two-minute mile is impressive... like 30mph
15:51 < eryc> some pull-ups in there somewhere too
15:51 <@rhia> step aerobics (run in place up and down a step)
15:51 <@Drag0n`> not sure about now, but when i was in, it was just pushups, situps and 2 mile run
15:52 < eryc> maybe its marines with the pullups
15:53 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6M8D41ZWU
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15:59 <@Drag0n`> kubla?
16:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Noonian Singh
16:00 < eryc> what what in the butt
16:00 <@Corydon76-dig> RIP
16:00 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU
16:01 <@Drag0n`> Ricardo Montalban, RIP
16:02 <@Drag0n`> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28661103/
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16:03 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuX5_OWObA0
16:04 <@rhia> so the last plane has left Fantasy Island
16:07 <@Drag0n`> no, still have tatu's to leave yet
16:07 <@Drag0n`> or is it tatoo
16:07 <@Drag0n`> never could get the short guys name right
16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n`: He already died
16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> suicide, even
16:08 <@Drag0n`> doh, when
16:08 <@rhia> and it was Tattoo
16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> 1993
16:09 <@Drag0n`> <-- epic nostalgia fail today
16:10 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0898199/bio
16:11 < eryc> funny you guys get all soppy about some stupid tv show but a thousand people dying in gaza is something to ridcule
16:12 <@Drag0n`> you do have a point amazingly enough
16:12 <@ShadowHntr> Drag0n: and Khan from Star Trek II
16:12 <@ShadowHntr> :(
16:12 <@ShadowHntr> sorry wasn't reading up far enough
16:12 <@rhia> eryc: didn't ridicule gaza - the sneetches reference is that its about time that maybe they started seeing each other as human first, not religion first
16:17 <@Drag0n`> most of the ridicule is not over the attrocities that are commited, but the reason they are commited
16:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Besides, it's not about being soppy over a TV show; it's about mourning the passing of a person who has accomplished a great deal.
16:22 < eryc> lolwut
16:23 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm sure if a Nobel prizewinning physicist in the West Bank was killed, we'd have the same reaction
16:24 < eryc> dying of old age and getting bombed are two different things
16:25 < eryc> acting is hardly a notable accomplishment
16:25 <@Corydon76-dig> That's a slippery slope
16:25  * eryc hands out lube
16:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Once you begin debasing chosen professions, you're on the path to devaluing every profession
16:27 <@Corydon76-dig> What accomplishments of the persons who have died in the West Bank are notable?
16:30  * eryc devalues Corydon76
16:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Permission denied
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16:46 <@aestetix> so
16:46 <@aestetix> the BART officer shooting
16:47 <@aestetix> turns out that happened at the BART stop near where I'm staying
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16:49 <@nachoguy> you're out on the left coast now?
16:49 <@nachoguy> wtf, don't you ever stay in Manhattan?
16:49 <@nachoguy> well, I guess given the choice, I wouldn't
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16:52 <@aestetix> nachoguy: no time
16:53 <@aestetix> ok this is pissing me off
16:53 <@aestetix> all my favorite songs are getting removed from youtube
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16:54 < eryc> if they are so important maybe u should buy them
16:55 <@aestetix> in many cases I have, but it's easier to listen on youtube
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17:08 < ware> aestetix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJBslSZK6kc
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17:52  * aestetix sighs
17:52 <@aestetix> Obama is letting Bush off the hook?
17:58 < eryc> its not his job to hook anyone
17:59 < eryc> he is in the executive branch
18:00 < eryc> do you want me to tell you the story of how a bill becomes law?
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18:03 <@Drag0n> the president is over the justice department and can issue pardons, historically, the new president has pardoned the outgoing president if there were any suspected wrong doings. I would love to see Obama break THAT tradition
18:03 < eryc> you can't pre-pardon someone
18:04 < eryc> Pardon. n. Exemption of a convicted person from the penalties of an offense or crime by the power of the executor of the laws.
18:04 <@Drag0n> but you can fr unknown past transgrettions
18:05 <@Drag0n> they can be used to interupt procedings
18:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: I don't know if that's true
18:05 < eryc> he's already said its up to the attorney general he appoints to prosecute anyone
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18:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: certainly, he can interrupt the penalty phase of a criminal trial, but I don't know that he can interrupt a trial, itself
18:07 <@Drag0n> A presidential pardon may be granted at any time, however, and as when Ford pardoned Nixon, the pardoned person need not yet have been convicted or even formally charged with a crime.
18:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: it's a moot point whether Ford actually had the authority to pardon Nixon, given that Nixon is now dead
18:08 <@Drag0n> he wasnt at the time, and wasnt for a long time after
18:09 <@Corydon76-dig> However, given that Ford did so at the beginning of his term, it seems likely that nobody would attempt a prosecution until after Ford was likely to leave office, given Ford's determination to pardon Nixon
18:09 < R3d2Dawn> Any one know of an app that will create multdistro dvd in linux?
18:10 < Mercster> what exactly would you geniuses like Bush charged with?
18:10 <@Drag0n> but it also set a precident in the respect that no one chalenged it infering legality and making it standard
18:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Lack of challenge doesn't mean anything to the courts
18:11 <@Drag0n> im not saying its set in stone, i am just saying it has happened before, and could happen again, becoming a tradition, just like executive orders
18:11 <@Drag0n> it actualy does in courts with a precident being set, it stands as law untill challenged
18:12 < eryc> oh btw, you guys can join the army now
18:12 < eryc> obama is getting rid of dont ask dont tell
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18:13 <@sdodson> eryc: lolzzz
18:13 <@sdodson> not at that
18:13 <@sdodson> at 19:01 < eryc> do you want me to tell you the story of how a bill becomes law?
18:20 <@sdodson> http://pastebin.ca/1308577
18:21 < eryc> hahaha
18:21 <@sdodson> think someone is joejobbing me
18:25 <@Drag0n> who did ya piss off this time?
18:29 <@sdodson> i dunno mang
18:29 <@sdodson> Wait, this time?
18:29 <@sdodson> I've never pissed someone off before.
18:31 <@Drag0n> suuure
18:32 <@sdodson> Drag0n: :(
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18:32 <@Drag0n> even mother theresa has pissed someone off
18:32 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: at least it didn't ACTUALLY go to the FD list
18:32 <@Drag0n> and YOU sir, are no mother theresa
18:32 < Mercster> for instance, christopher hitchens
18:33 <@Catonic> http://shorterlink.org/4518 <- real person tries to use Ubuntu. Hates it.
18:33 <@sdodson> i'm assuming it's just spam
18:33 <@Drag0n> well targeted spam
18:33 <@Catonic> I am Christopher Walken.
18:33 <@nachoguy> I love the phone number sdodson
18:33 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: more likely, someone at RH is just fucking with you
18:34 <@aestetix> Catonic: is that what your mom tells you when she tucks you in?
18:34 <@nachoguy> 1-555-LOL-COCKDONGS
18:34 <@nachoguy> also the certs you have: *CISSP GSAE CCE CEH CSFA GREM SSP-CNSA SSP-MPA GIPS GHTQ GWAS BACON LULZ
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18:35 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: why would it be someone there?
18:35 <@nachoguy> "As a result, with no internet and no Microsoft Word, Schubert dropped out of MATC's fall and spring semesters." err, uh LOLWUT?  you have to cancel TWO semester for a 3 hour issue?
18:36 <@aestetix> you know, there are computer labs in schools for a reason
18:36 <@Drag0n> no internet? thats not the laptops or linuxes problem, the asshat doesnt have an internet to use
18:37 <@Catonic> BACON: Barely Achieves Competency Over Nothing
18:37 <@I-MOD> you shall NOT sully the name of bacon
18:37 <@Catonic> LULZ: Loser Understands Limits: Zero
18:38  * Catonic pelts I-MOD with fakon
18:38 <@sdodson> aestetix: We wanted to get rid of our computer labs
18:39 <@Catonic> und vee turnd da space inta a cloob inshtead.
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18:42 < eryc> DUBAI, United Arab Emirates  .  The developer of a skyscraper planned to be the world's tallest said Wednesday it is halting work on the project for a year as the Middle East's business and entertainment capital grapples with the financial crisis.
18:43 <@sdodson> i hope dubai implodes
18:47 <@Drag0n> dubai isnt so bad, its saudi arabia and iran that need to implode
18:47 <@Drag0n> yeah, dubai has a lot of money, but at least their people have a deicent standard of living
18:47 <@sdodson> No, dubai is completely devoid of reality.
18:48 <@sdodson> air conditioned beaches
18:48 <@Drag0n> so is hollywood, and D.C., but you dont see us bulldozing them
18:48 <@sdodson> indoor ski restores in the desert
18:48 <@Drag0n> if ya got the money, why not
18:48 <@Drag0n> at least they dont restrict who can use em
18:49 <@Drag0n> and the locals get payed well to work on the projects
18:49 <@sdodson> They should be investing more wisely, like buying up what little bit of the US that hasn't been bought!
18:49 <@Drag0n> the ski resort will probably depreciate less
18:49 <@sdodson> reports i've heard seem to indicate most projects are manned by international workers
18:50 <@Drag0n> only directed, still using as much domestic labor as possible
18:53 < Mercster> more foreign nationals live in UAE than citizens
18:54 < Mercster> but you still cant make out on the beach (unless its a closed beach tied directly to one of the "whitey-friendly zones" where the government doesnt enforce sharia)
19:08 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: you were not, apparently, the only one:  http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2009-January/067307.html
19:15 <@sdodson> Drag0n: See loser! I didn't piss anyone off! I'm nice and friendly, asshole.
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19:17 <@sdodson> aestetix: You sir, do not get to do that.
19:17 <@aestetix> What?
19:17 <@sdodson> Call others douchebags
19:18 <@aestetix> why not?
19:33 <+cerkit> I think he's saying you're not in a position of eligibility
19:33 <+cerkit> In other words, you're SUCH a douchebag, you can't call others douchebags.
19:33 <+cerkit> An interesting insult...
19:34 <@aestetix> cerkit: I was being facetious. I don't actually give a fuck about his opinion.
19:34 <+cerkit> Oh.
19:35 <+cerkit> .wii eryc
19:35 <+cerkit> eryc: come back to your live feed.
19:35 <+cerkit> I want to know whats on your desktop, and hear the background noise of the room your in....  again.
19:35 <+cerkit> you're
19:37 <+cerkit> eryc: Better yet, let me watch you play war video games again.
19:37 <+cerkit> Watching you get shot up by 14 year olds was fun.
19:39 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwbqBdghh6E skip first 3 minutes to get to tech content
19:39 <@sdodson> cerkit: Yes, that's what I meant.
19:39 <+cerkit> sdodson: Whats in the video?
19:40 <+cerkit> sdodson: Synopsize the "tech content" please.
19:41 <+cerkit> Nortel filed bankruptcy today.
19:42 <@sdodson> cerkit: The title of the video doesn't provide enough ifnormationa bout it?
19:42 <@sdodson> FreeBSD Kernel Internals, Dr. Marshall Kirk McKusick
19:42 <+cerkit> Jobs is leaving for 6 months (at least) from his position at Apple on health concerns.
19:42 <+cerkit> sdodson: I didn't just click on it, blindly.  heh
19:42 <+cerkit> I at least give you an opportunity to lie to me.
19:43 <@sdodson> cerkit: I'm not a douchebag.
19:43 <+cerkit> Intel is in margin squeze downward spiral hell.
19:43 <+cerkit> IT is getting kicked in the balls.
19:43 <+cerkit> Well, what little balls it had, I should say.
19:43 <@sdodson> cerkit: Yes, we all have slashdot in our RSS feeds, thanks.
19:43 <+cerkit> Slashdot?
19:43 <+cerkit> You get your news from Slashdot?
19:44 <+cerkit> Wait...
19:44 <+cerkit> They talk about Intel's chip making margins on Slashdot?
19:44 <+cerkit> Hm... why am I reading these damn balance sheets...
19:45 <+cerkit> sdodson: You are incorrect.
19:45 <+cerkit> sdodson: There are no frontpage slashdot items related to Intel's margins nor the Nortel bankruptcy.
19:45 <+cerkit> simply some fanboy posting about the Jobs absence.
19:47 <+cerkit> sdodson: From now on, you should let me finish, I know you're not used it, but, sometimes, I use multiple sentence to converge on a larger point.  Shocking... isn't it?
19:47 <+cerkit> Crazy, really, I know.
19:51 <@aestetix> Why the hell would you have slashdot in your rss feed?
19:55 <@dasunt> Oh god.
19:55 <@dasunt> The third hand smoke thread is still going strong.
19:57 <@tzanger> heh the third hand smoke thing is interesting
19:58 <@sdodson> dasunt: what?
20:00 <@dasunt> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/03/health/research/03smoke.html?em
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21:03 < eryc> sorry no hot webcam action tonight
21:03 < eryc> i left it at work
21:04 < eryc> and for the record i was only getting my ass handed to by 14 yr olds because the flv encoder was killing my performance
21:05 < eryc> next time ill setup my un poopoo box to encode instead
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21:39 < mgalgoci_mini> hello
21:39 < eryc> hello
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21:40 <@Catonic> hey
21:40 < eryc> no
21:40 <@Catonic> tell me this doesn't remind you of wontonjoe:
21:41 <@Catonic> http://imagechan.com/images/goomba.jpeg
21:41 <+cerkit> eryc: I was fucking with you
21:41 <+cerkit> 100%
21:41 <+cerkit> so, its no big deal
21:42 < eryc> ya i know
21:42 <+cerkit> eryc: That site is fucking funny though.
21:42 <+cerkit> eryc: I've got a screen session thats been camped out in that old dudes shit
21:43 <+cerkit> I resume every so often and talk to him
21:43 <+cerkit> its funny
21:43 < eryc> ha
21:44 < mgalgoci_mini> looks like Mercster
21:44 <+cerkit> I just exposed his whole network of friends -- who I must say, remind me of the characters in the Rudolph Chrismas Special, from the island of misfit toys -- to bash.org
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21:44 <+cerkit> It was most excellent.
22:25 <@rhia> most excellent still reminds me of Wyld Stallyns
22:26 <@sdodson> mgalgoci_mini: mini?
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22:40 < Mercster> he flaunts his dell mini in front of me
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22:47 <@sdodson> I need a new laptop.
22:50 < Mercster> i need a dell mini
22:52 <@sdodson> Does that have a fullsized keyboard? My hands are far too fat to deal with any of those smaller than fullsized keyboards.
22:52 < Mercster> no it has a mini keyboard
22:52 < Mercster> cuz its a dell mini
22:53  * sdodson detects a trend here
22:55 <@dasunt> http://www.mplsbikelove.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1380&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15
22:55 <@dasunt> Fuck y'all bitching about the cold.
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