--- Log opened Thu Jan 08 00:00:55 2009
00:04 <@rhia> someninjamaster: wrong situation to pull his gun
00:05 <@someninjamaster> we are only seeing one angle
00:05 <@someninjamaster> what was the backstory to this
00:06 <@someninjamaster> what were these guys being stopped for
00:06 <@rhia> seen two angles - and still don't see a reason to pull the gun
00:07 <@someninjamaster> what were these guys stopped for
00:07 <@someninjamaster> cops arnt out to shoot people
00:07 <@someninjamaster> shooting someone is one of the worst things that can ever happen to you
00:08 <@rhia> DART officers - dunno if they're full cops or not in SF?  (Maybe Dagmar or someone who lived there might know)
00:09 <@rhia> and yes, i know that the vast majority of cops don't go out to shoot people
00:09 <@someninjamaster> i givin that guys reacton
00:10 <@rhia> i'm not anti-police, i am anti stupid people with hair triggers being in positions to (as one 'apology' is already stating) mistaking his gun for his tazer
00:10 <@rhia> er, mistake
00:10 <@someninjamaster> thats pretty tough
00:10 <@someninjamaster> huge weight diffrence
00:11 <@rhia> if you're issued those weapons For Your Job - you should KNOW the difference of placement, feel, heft - everything, with your eyes shut
00:11 <@sdodson> Why do cops carry guns with hair triggers?
00:11 <@rhia> sdodson: most don't
00:11 <@someninjamaster> because at some point glocks were decided as the offical cop gun
00:11 <@someninjamaster> a lot of departments are moving away from them because of the triggers
00:12 <@sdodson> eryc: looks high stress to me
00:12 <@rhia> and if he Didn't mistake the weapons, but just pulled his gun on a man already down - that's criminally stupid
00:12 <@someninjamaster> and their pensions for exploding
00:13 <@someninjamaster> ok so this was during a mini riot
00:13 <@rhia> penchants
00:14 <@rhia> pensions are what bureaucrats some union people still manage to get when they retire
00:14 <@someninjamaster> eh
00:14 <@someninjamaster> wow there isnt alot of info on this shooting out there
00:14 <@rhia> polerin posted a couple links earlier today
00:16 <@rhia>  http://www.examiner.com/x-1588-Philadelphia-Young-Professionals-Examiner~y2009m1d7-New-footage-found-of-California-cop-murdering-man
00:16 <@rhia>  http://www.sfbayview.com/2009/oscar-grant-young-father-and-peacemaker-executed-by-bart-police/
00:16 <@rhia> those
00:16 <@someninjamaster> and btw bart officers have full police powers
00:17 <@rhia> ahhh - well, said i didn't know ... somehow, that doesn't make it better
00:18 <@someninjamaster> hmm
00:19 <@sdodson> I make it a rule of not trying to assume I knew everything going on in someones head during a tragedy.
00:19 <@someninjamaster> theres no information about the offical police report out there
00:19 <@someninjamaster> for some reason all the media seems to be slightly skewed
00:19 <@someninjamaster> /oscar-grant-young-father-and-peacemaker-executed-by-bart-police/
00:19 <@rhia> think CNN has a story on the guy 'retiring' or something
00:20 <@someninjamaster> keep in mind that this guy was in a fight between 2 groups of riders
00:20 <@rhia> keep in mind the guy was on the ground
00:21 <@rhia> http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/07/BART.shooting/index.html  yeah, retired
00:22 <@sdodson> the ground immediately neutralizes all threats?
00:23 <@someninjamaster> i think this guy is guilty of being an idiot
00:23 <@rhia> he was shot in the back .... on the ground, not exactly the Most threatening stance
00:23 <@rhia> any way, i'm out
00:23  * rhia wanders off to bed
00:26 <@sdodson> someninjamaster: What are you using to make that decision?
00:26 <@someninjamaster> the way that he just straight up shoots him
00:27 <@someninjamaster> and then just stands there
00:27 <@someninjamaster> if you plan on killing someone you are going to do something after you shoot them
00:28 <@someninjamaster> the other thing was at this point the guy was on the ground but not cuffed
00:28 <@someninjamaster> the situation isnt over until the person is cuffed
00:29 <@sdodson> "For the record: It takes an eeepc 901 just under nine hours to build a Fedora kernel."
00:29 <@sdodson> oh i thought you meant the kid
00:30 <@someninjamaster> haha
00:30 <@someninjamaster> wow
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00:44 <@sdodson> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=37f_1228973812
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02:35 <@DigitalIrony> anyone here use knology?
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03:40 <@scoil> parents do
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05:13 < Mercster> weird
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07:41 < Mercster> it happens
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08:11 < Mercster> COMPUTERS ARE HARD
08:14 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:15 < ware> mh0rnen
08:17 <@Dolemite> For all the stargazers in the Nashville area...
08:17 <@Dolemite> http://sitemason.vanderbilt.edu/myvu/news/2009/01/05/celebrate-the-international-year-of-astronomy-with-cocoa-and-constellations-at-dyer-jan-10.69861
08:17 <@Dolemite> ~minilink
08:17 <@Dolemite> bah
08:17 <@Dolemite> http://tinyurl.com/9qvdu3
08:18 < ware> http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/07/john.doe.letters/index.html?eref=rss_us
08:18 < ware> wow what the fuck
08:18 < Mercster> ware: horrible
08:18 < Mercster> when i read that, i winced
08:19 < ware> complete and utter disrespect.  you arent allowed to make mistakes like that
08:19 < ware> jesus
08:20 < Mercster> yeah, seems we could get that right
08:21 < ware> 'hey mr and mrs.... well who ever you are. you son/daughter is dead, thnx'
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08:28 <@someninjamaster> lets give it up for oakland protesters
08:29 <@Dolemite> Who?
08:29 <@someninjamaster> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/07/BA2N155CN1.DTL
08:29 < ware> oakland thugs you mean?
08:29 <@Shadow404> they need to diaf
08:29 <@someninjamaster> an officer shot an unarmd black guy in the back
08:30 < Mercster> eh
08:30 < ware> granted the f-tard cop that thought his gun was a taser should be the one on the chopping block
08:30 <@Dolemite> yeah, that's old news
08:30 <@someninjamaster> so the mobs response
08:30 < Mercster> fuck them bitchez
08:30 <@someninjamaster> the officer is white so its a race thing
08:30 < Mercster> everything's a race thing
08:30 < Mercster> you racist
08:30 <@someninjamaster> so the mob burned and destroyed buisnesses owned by black people
08:30 <@someninjamaster> that sure shows whitey
08:31 < ware> rofl
08:31 < ware> its sad
08:31 < ware> i made fun of tim's ex for fuckin an arab
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08:31 <@someninjamaster> why
08:31 <@someninjamaster> those chicks are hot
08:31 < Mercster> and we've decided that democracy is a good idea
08:32 < ware> to him and her, i was like "TERRORIST FUCKER!  be sure not to catch the arab herp" etc
08:32 < Mercster> yea id like to fuck an arab or a jew
08:32 < ware> thought it was hilarious
08:32 <@Shadow404> i fucked a jew
08:32 < Mercster> not one of those ashkenazi eastern european jews either
08:32 <@Shadow404> she was hot
08:32 < Mercster> one of those dark ones
08:32 <@Shadow404> tamar was her name
08:32 < Mercster> like they have down on the mediterranean
08:32 < Mercster> with fat asses and fat noses
08:32 <@Shadow404> but she wouldnt date me cause i wasnt jewish
08:32 <@Shadow404> stuck up bitch
08:32 < Mercster> Shadow404: it happens
08:33 < Mercster> Shadow404: why would you wanna date her anyway, sounds like you already fucked her
08:33 < Mercster> the whole 'date' part would be a drag
08:33 <@Shadow404> yeah, but she was cool as shit
08:33 <@Shadow404> and iw as in college
08:33 <@Shadow404> high most of the time
08:33 < Mercster> heh
08:33 <@Shadow404> so i didnt know better
08:33 < ware> Grant's family has filed a $25 million wrongful death claim against BART and want prosecutors to file criminal charges against Mehserle.
08:34 < ware> they cant be too upset
08:34 < Mercster> pimpin' aint easy
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09:08 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:08 <@nachoguy> hey Shadow404 (or any other ATL/404 people), ever eat at "the vortex"?
09:08 <@Shadow404> only dc meetings
09:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> nachoguy: moreNIN
09:16 <@Dolemite> I used to go to The Vortex on a regular basis when I lived in ATL...   great place to meet up for beers
09:16 <@Dolemite> But I always went to the one in L5P
09:16 <@Dolemite> Only went to Midtown once or twice
09:16 <@Dolemite> Of course, I heard that one of my favorite dives is gone, now. :(  The Highlander
09:26 <@nachoguy> I watched "Man Vs Food" last night and he stopped in there; it looked pretty good.
09:26 <@nachoguy> he and some other guys also tried to eat some 11 pound pizza down in the ATL area
09:29 <@I-MOD> jesus
09:29 <@I-MOD> i might die just from looking at it
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09:36 <@nachoguy> what, did you find a picture of it?
09:38 <@I-MOD> no
09:39  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
09:43 <@I-MOD> http://www.bigpieinthesky.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8&Itemid=8
09:43 <@I-MOD> not a decent pic, unfortunately
09:44 <@Peaches84> morning
09:44 <@I-MOD> howdy
09:45 <@nachoguy> yeah, I'm trying to find a better one
09:47 <@nachoguy> http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Man_v_Food/Atlanta_Slideshow_5
09:47 <@Dolemite> oh man that pizza looks awesome
09:47 <@nachoguy> and for scale http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Man_v_Food/Atlanta_Slideshow_6
09:49 <@I-MOD> gah
09:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> Peaches84: morning
09:49 <@Peaches84> how are you doing today
09:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm tired... I had a home networking explosion yesterday and spent a good part of the night trying to get it all lined out
09:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> at least I can search the googles now :)
09:59 <@Peaches84> well sounds like fun
09:59 <@Peaches84> yeah i didn't sleep well last night but i will make it lol
10:01 <@Dolemite> tell Corydon to stop poking you all night
10:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> time to restart X ttys
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10:21 <@aestetix> damn yo
10:21 <@aestetix> I am seeing nothing but bad news about the economy
10:23 <@aestetix> How the hell is everyone so broke?
10:23 <@rhia> that's what happens a year into a recession that no-one in charge would admit to
10:24 <@aestetix> I'm reading slashdot right now
10:24 <@aestetix> Every story has something to do with layoffs, lost jobs, or software projects getting cancelled
10:25 <@maco> doesnt seem so much like a recession in dc
10:25 <@rhia> denial and lies were the only things done for a year as the slide downhill started
10:25 <@aestetix> maco: that's because you guys are getting the money you sucked out of the rest of the coutnry.
10:25 <@aestetix> country*
10:26 <@Dolemite> We're also in the middle of a self fulfilling prophecy...   people have lost confidence in the economy, so they stop spending...  which causes the economy to suffer even more
10:26 <@aestetix> rhia: I'm at a loss for *any* industry that isn't currently in the gutters.
10:26 <@maco> i dont know how the non-tech jobs are, but right after the news started going all "this is a depression" i got a job offer. ive got 3 interviews next week for places in dc & nova
10:27 <@rhia> aestetix: medical and some state agencies
10:27 <@aestetix> Ok, true that.
10:27 <@Dolemite> when I worked in the automated id industry we did our best business when the economy was down, because we were the answer to automation and efficiency
10:28 <@aestetix> rhia: like unemployment office staffers? :)
10:28 <@rhia> like some states' education and mass transit, but yeah, probably them too
10:29 <@Dolemite> Well if Obama really does plan on spending more money on infrastructure than the interstate system, business should start booming
10:29 <@aestetix> Education is hurting just as bad.
10:29 <@maco> probably the reason it seems ok to me is that for tech jobs in dc, it's all government contractor
10:29 <@aestetix> maco: yeah.
10:29 <@maco> and the government is not stopping spending (which is good, because the G is a big part of CIGNX)
10:29 <@aestetix> Try finding a job in DC if you can't get cleared.
10:30 <@maco> well i dont have a clearance yet
10:30 <@aestetix> Yet is the definitive term.
10:30 <@aestetix> There's a huge difference between "not cleared yet" and "not clearable"
10:30 <@maco> a lot of the companies have commercial divisions though
10:31 <@rhia> oh, and oddly, financial places - the ones that are still solvent are hiring to integrate all the ones they bought
10:31 <@aestetix> In DC, your choices are basically government and politics.
10:31 <@maco> as far as i know, none of the places to which i'm applying would require a clearance.
10:31 <@maco> hehe
10:32 <@maco> 1s a software development (no gov relationship that i know) place, 1's a gov contractor, and 1's where neoteric works...a lobbyist for transparency in gov
10:32 <@rhia> what i've read on the industries who are hiring lines up pretty much with the last 4 months of job searches
10:32 <@rhia> the majority of calls Drag0n was getting were from companies directly interacting with hospitals, oil companies, or state government (like, 5 different states) -
10:32 <@Dolemite> ok, MTV is definitely gasping for air with its latest Real World casting...
10:32 <@Dolemite> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39689
10:33 <@rhia> and credit card & mortgage companies
10:33 <@aestetix> I've been really just watching Silicon Valley's economy.
10:33 <@aestetix> It's horrible.
10:35 <@maco> Tesla isn't doing well :(
10:35 <@maco> that's a startup i want to see succeed. their cars are really sweet
10:35 <@rhia> maco: well, after the shit they pulled on their Detroit office....
10:35 <@aestetix> I want to see my startup succeed too.
10:36 <@maco> rhia: tesla?
10:36 <@rhia> maco: Lotus ___may___ be making noises of either helping or competing with Tesla
10:36 <@maco> lotus makes tesla's cars
10:36 <@rhia> maco: affirmative
10:37 <@maco> but yes, lotus did say they were thinking about making some electric of their own
10:37 <@oddball> That, and they continually fail to meet the timelines that they set.
10:37 <@oddball> I do think they have the correct idea on how to make electric vehicles work though.
10:39 <@rhia> oddball: yeah, i love the T roadster - but there are some really cool ideas coming out from other places too
10:41 <@rhia> the Miles looks like it might have a shot - if they make it to market
10:41 <@Shadow404> oddball: its not as bad as any timeline that steam sets
10:41 <@rhia> not sleek, but mainstream sedan, comfy ride, highway speeds
10:41 <@oddball> The biggest problem is still the range/recharge time.  This is the type of car an car-geek would be interested in, but a car guy can easily bump against the ~200 mile range in a day.
10:42 <@rhia> oddball: yeah, but the majority of people here drive a LOT less than that in a day
10:42 <@Shadow404> hell, isnt atl~nash more than 200 miles?
10:42 <@rhia> and in EU, etc, even less
10:43 <@oddball> rhia: Yeah, but the car guys are the early adopters.
10:43 <@rhia> Shadow404: that's where our lack of functional mass transit sux
10:43 <@rhia> oddball: and the rich CA greenies
10:44 <@oddball> Heck, I'd be nervous driving to the park near Cookeville and back without a reliable place to recharge in Cookeville.
10:44 <@oddball> But as a "around town" car... gimme!
10:45 <@rhia> EU has trains that cover the same as DC to Chicago, ~5 or 6 hrs .... since those are a few of the cities we actually do connect off the east coast corridor ... our trains take 24 to do that route
10:45 <@maco> my step-dad pointed out that he wouldnt be able to reach my apartment in the roadster
10:45 <@maco> i told him to stop for lunch since its a long ride
10:45 <@maco> he still got a new mercedes instead :(
10:46 <@maco> rhia: uh, dc to chicago by train is MUCH longer than 5 or 6 hours. i ride that train just for the dc to pittsburgh portion, and that chunk is 8 hours
10:46 <@rhia> battery tech will continue to increase in efficiency for a while as well as ability to recharge on the fly
10:46 <@rhia> maco: ours do that in 24
10:46 <@oddball> rhia: I've been told that that has a lot to do with the tracks we have in the states not being in nearly as good condition.
10:46 <@Dolemite> maco : She was saying that the same distance in Europe is 5-6 hours but is about 24 in the US
10:46 <@maco> ooh ok
10:46 <@rhia> in EU that distance is covered in 5 or 6
10:47 <@maco> gotcha
10:47 <@rhia> oddball: cuz we don't care - we have cars, "only goods and cattle ride trains" (sigh)
10:47 <@maco> 新幹線 ftw
10:47 <@maco> (bullet trains)
10:47 <@Dolemite> I'd ride a train to work if there was one available
10:48 <@Shadow404> same
10:48 <@Dolemite> Hell I loved being able to use MARTA when I lived in Atlanta
10:48 <@Dolemite> Much better than dealing with traffic
10:48 <@Shadow404> no marta station close enough to jump on
10:48 <@maco> is MARTA the lightrail or the commuter train?
10:48 <@nachoguy> I do.  It's usually nice, but my train line isn't the busiest (not even close), so they run fewer trains, cutting down on flexibility
10:48 <@oddball> Dolemite: you could do what I did, work 3 miles from where you live. :p
10:48 <@Shadow404> commuter train
10:48 <@maco> in dc terms: metro or MARC?
10:48 <@maco> ok
10:49 <@nachoguy> we _might_ get weekend service on my line in a few months though
10:49 <@Dolemite> oddball : I could...  if I could afford a house in the area
10:50 <@Dolemite> We now have a light rail going from Lebanon (due east of Nashville) into the city, but nothing from the other directions yet
10:50 <@Dolemite> A lot of people at work ride the Music City Star in to work...  mainly because Vanderbilt subsidizes the ticket price
10:50 <@rhia> the DART system here is ok for some runs, but a 5 mile trip can take hiking 1/2 mile, 2 or 3 buses, and a train or two to make that run in just over an hr
10:51 <@oddball> Dolemite: eh, true
10:51 <@maco> wow
10:51 <@rhia> safer than biking here - but, damn
10:51 <@maco> i'm told dc's public transit is crappy. i never noticed, because i'm from pittsburgh, where there are a total of 4 subway stations, all inside the city.
10:51 <@nachoguy> just over an hour?  I could almost walk that
10:52 <@rhia> nachoguy: exactly
10:52 <@maco> getting between city and not-city requires buses. getting between northeast-of-city and northwest-of-city requires a bus into the city and then back out.
10:53 <@rhia> maco: DC's system is better than ATL or DFW, it's usually New Yorkers who bitch the most about DC's system
10:53 <@maco> pittsburgh lacks a beltway due to big hills. closest it gets are the belts...yellow belt, green belt, purple belt...radiating routes around the city that aren't all one road each. they involve knowing they're there and knowing when to switch roads to stay on the same belt
10:53 <@rhia> maco: well, as long as you're staying in DC <g>
10:53 <@maco> baltimore's not bad to reach because of the MARC
10:54 <@maco> i keep getting jobs out by Dulles though -_0
10:54 <@maco> er...typo
10:54 <@maco> -_-
10:54 <@maco> so then i take the metro for a half hour and then the bus for a half hour
10:55 <@rhia> latest rumors in DFW are that nearly 250+ miles of new rail are being built - hope they get some inside the loop stuff fixed with some of those miles
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10:55 <@TheLightCosine> okay, what happened to comcast last night?
10:55 <@Shadow404> i tripped on the fiber cord
10:56 <@Dolemite> All your bits are belong to us.
10:56 <@nachoguy> TheLightCosine: well, Shadow404 accidentally the whole thing.
10:57 <@TheLightCosine> and possibly more important wtf can't i get irssi to connect to freenode grr
11:00 <@Dolemite> Oh, you didn't get the insert with your bill?  They have implemented an anti-goof off device.
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11:00 <@TheLightCosine> hrm i must be doing something wrong xchat connects fine
11:03 <@TheLightCosine> hrm and it works fine from this computer
11:03 <@TheLightCosine> just not through the ssh session
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11:11 <@TheLightCosine> there we go
11:11 <@TheLightCosine> much better
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11:15  * nachoguy is going insane.  I can only pretend to work for so long.
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11:23 <@Evilpig> is there a way for me to set sendmail to relay all the mail for a domain to anther server but if a specific email address appears process it locally?
11:27 <@nachoguy> I'd have to imagine so.  In postfix I did it.  You catch the one address you care about, and then everything else falls through to your catchall
11:30 <@Evilpig> I want to setup a mailman listserver on this domain.  but my domain gets relayed to exchange after it gets processed for spam.  how did you do it in postfix?  cause my relays are postfix.  and I could just put in the catches for the mailman addresses and send them to the other server 
11:31 <@critch> Evilpig: I know exim calls that a smarthost
11:34 <@Evilpig> think I might have found it.  needs a new line in my transports
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11:37 <@rhia> hmm .... speaking of american mass transit:
11:37 <@rhia> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/01/amtrak-arrest-photographer.php
11:38 <@Peaches84> hello rhia
11:39 <@rhia> heya Peaches84
11:40 <@Peaches84> nes just shut the power off to the whole street and didn't tell anyone they were doing maintence  to the pole outside
11:41 <@rhia> the sudden silence was the notification
11:41 <@Peaches84> yeah
11:42 <@Peaches84> all the sudden just bloop there it went and all the computers started beeping around the house lol
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11:45 <+cerkit> Lots of layoffs this month.
11:46 <+cerkit> Over half a million.
11:46 <+cerkit> Fun stuff.
11:47 <+cerkit> How's life in the south?
11:48 <@Peaches84> its good just  busy working alot
11:48 <@Peaches84> well heading to see my mom talk to yall later
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11:58 <@aestetix> cerkit: no kidding.
12:00 <@rhia> cerkit: just Jan? last 30 days?
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12:03 <@sdodson> hi
12:03 <@brimstone> NO SOUP FOR YOU SDODSON
12:04 <@aestetix> He gets soup. It just has semen in it.
12:06 <@sdodson> brimstone: omg i just had noodles!
12:29 <@rhia> anyone heard anything good about the Fisker Karma (same general idea as the Chevy Volt)?
12:31 <@rhia> the solar panel roof sounds interesting
12:31 <@brimstone> about time
12:31 <@brimstone> !!!
12:31 <@brimstone> is there a cheevy volt, but with solar panel roof, and more like a van?
12:32 <@rhia> Chrysler? "has plans" for "possibly" making a minivan
12:33 <@brimstone> i want something like a bank robbing van
12:33 <@Shadow404> solar powered war driving?
12:33 <@brimstone> or a step van :/
12:33 <@brimstone> sure, "war driving"
12:34 <@rhia> http://www.treehugger.com/galleries/2009/01/slideshow-gallery-23-electric-cars-evs.php?page=14
12:34 <@rhia> about the largest capacity concept i've seen
12:35 <@rhia> tho there are a few mini trucks from someplace in the EU
12:38 <@rhia> or maybe India
12:38 <@rhia> not available in the good ol' Us of A any way
12:39 <@rhia> this sounds promising: http://www.a123systems.com/news/135
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12:42 <@TheLightCosine> damnit i can't get simple php blog to accept this image as a banner for some reason
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13:10 < ware> anyone heard about larry flint asking for a 5 billion dollar bailout?
13:11 <@oddball> I heard right-wing radio ranting something about the porn industry asking for a bailout.
13:12 <@Shadow404> its a very profitable business when the economy is good, brings lots of worthy taxes in, i dont know why congress doesnt want to hear them out
13:13 <@Dementia> It's just Larry Flynt pointing out the stupidity of all the bailouts. I'm suprised people aren't seeing the sarcasm.
13:13 < ware> thats how i look at it dem
13:14 < ware> i mean shit, if theyre handing out billions to everyone who asks, why not ask?
13:14 <@oddball> I'm enjoying the concept of "well, let's do another stimulus package, but let's try to hide it since last time people used it to pay their bills/payoff debt instead of just blowing it."
13:14 < ware> im down for tax rebates / free money in the mail
13:15 <@oddball> Oh, and if anyone's interested... I've just been told that "yes, we will give you a house loan, and it will be at 4.5%."
13:15 <@Dementia> that's a pretty good rate
13:16 <@Evilpig> I'll say porn will do well even in a bad economy
13:16 <@Evilpig> just like booze
13:16 <@oddball> Oh, and the real estate agent Naienko and I met with asked "now, you haven't been listening to Dave Ramsey for the past 20 years and have no credit score, have you?"  "Ummm... well... sort of..."
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13:17 <@brimstone> Evilpig: any of the "feel good" items will
13:17 <@nachoguy> bad oddball
13:17 <@brimstone> chocolate, toys, booze
13:17 <@Dementia> I thought you at least had a student loan, oddball?
13:17 <@oddball> nope
13:17 <@Evilpig> brimstone: prostitots?
13:17 <@brimstone> yup
13:18 <@Dementia> huh. oka
13:18 <@brimstone> that's the best thing about high schoolers
13:18 <@oddball> I've had a credit card for the past 3-4 years, had a 5 month car loan, and.... that's it.
13:18 <@M0j0-j0j0> brimstone: they don't know all the pick up lines yet?
13:18 <@oddball> And the credit card hasn't been particularly active.
13:19 <@brimstone> M0j0-j0j0: i keep getting older and they stay the same age
13:19 <@rhia> oddball: 4.5 is rather good right now
13:19 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: mortgage?
13:19 <@oddball> I think that rate is mostly due to the money I have in the bank, and Naienko's credit score.
13:19 <@rhia> so, after listening to Ramsey, what is your score?
13:20 <@aestetix> 420?
13:20 <@oddball> honestly... I don't know.
13:20 <@oddball> I know 3-4 years ago it was 0.
13:20 <@rhia> mortgage broker didn't tell you?
13:20 <@aestetix> Is there a way to learn your credit score for free?
13:20 <@aestetix> I'm kind of interested.
13:20 <@oddball> Naienko talked to them, and they didn't tell her.
13:20 <@brimstone> aestetix: you're required by law to get one free check a year
13:20 <@oddball> aestetix: yes, there is... I should probably look that up
13:21 <@M0j0-j0j0> aestetix: you can get a free credit report but it doesn't have your score
13:21 <@brimstone> any of the credit reporting sites will do it for you
13:21 <@aestetix> M0j0-j0j0: right.
13:21 <@aestetix> I've never gotten a score from the credit report sites.
13:21 <@rhia> brimstone: report is free, score is not
13:21 <@Dolemite> Your free credit check does not provide you with a score
13:21 <@Dementia> what rhia said
13:21 <@oddball> huh... if anyone in Nashville is interested, Cheekwood is only charging $1 for admission this month.
13:21 <@rhia> score comes from FICA
13:21 <@Dolemite> Your credit report only lists the activity
13:21 <@nachoguy> Cheekwood?  sounds like a place Corydon hangs out at
13:22 <@rhia> and the credit reporters scores aren't FICA scores, they make they're own up so they can differ quite a lot
13:22 <@oddball> I doubt the grounds would be much fun to wander around in, but the art in the house is worth $1.
13:22 <@brimstone> nachoguy: no, that's Cheekwood Cheek
13:22 <@Dolemite> But right now a lot of people can get 4.5%...   with 10% down.
13:23 <@Dolemite> It's very difficult to get a loan with less than that much down, though
13:23 <@oddball> nachoguy: it's an art museum and gardens on the grounds of the Cheek mansion (the family that founded Maxwell House).
13:23 <@Dementia> aestetix: you can sign up for one of those "free" services that give you your score, as long as you remember to cancel it before they charge you a monthly fee.
13:23 <@rhia> Dementia: i wouldn't
13:23 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: if your score is high enough you can do it with 5%
13:23 <@Dementia> I've done it before
13:23 <@rhia> they're notorious about not canceling when you ask
13:23 <@Dementia> I guess it's which one you go with
13:23 <@Dolemite> M0j0-j0j0 : I didn't say it was impossible, I said it was difficult
13:24 <@rhia> cheaper just to go ahead and pay the low one time fee - less hassle
13:24 <@rhia> damn, FICO, not FICA ... bloody rented fingers
13:24 <@rhia> drip all over the keyboard
13:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> Falco!
13:26 <@Dementia> rhia: here's the one with all 3. It's $48. http://www.myfico.com/Products/FICOThree/Description.aspx
13:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> okay.. will someone please come fix my xorg.conf?
13:27 <@brimstone> X11 -config ?
13:27 <@brimstone> no, what's the auto config command
13:27 <@brimstone> Xorg -configure
13:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> xrandr
13:28 <@rhia> Dementia: yeah, Orman talks about myfico all the time
13:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> I can get it running really well on one monitor.. I just can't get it to like the second monitor
13:28 <@brimstone> which gpu M0j0-j0j0?
13:29 <@M0j0-j0j0> ati radon x300 I think
13:30 <@rhia> avoid all the 'free credit report" .com ads on tv - the true 'free' report is via annualcreditreport.com
13:31 <@rhia> http://consumerist.com/322620/where-to-get-your-real-credit-score
13:32 <@rhia> http://consumerist.com/336077/how-fico-08-changes-your-credit-score   also interesting
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13:35 <@oddball> rhia: Yeah, I'm checking that now.
13:35 <@Dementia> oh great, under the new system, it's a ding to my credit if I *don't* have multiple types of debt? super.
13:35 <@nachoguy> multiple types? car vs mortgage vs studentloans vs credit cards?
13:35 <@Dementia> yes
13:36 <@aestetix> Fun.
13:36 <@oddball> Jesus Christ! Capitol One has checked my credit a hell of a lot... I wonder if I can tell the credit agencies "if x company asks, tell them to fuck off."
13:36 <@aestetix> My credit must suck.
13:36 <@Dementia> oddball: don't worry, that doesn't count for or against your score.
13:36 <@brimstone> i thought every check did count against your score
13:36 <@Dementia> no
13:37 <@rhia> oddball: that's a soft check
13:37 <@Dementia> only if you're applying for credit
13:37 <@Dementia> and apparently under the new rules, that won't count as much anymore
13:37 <@oddball> rhia: I'm still paranoid... I don't want anything to do with Capitol One.
13:37 <@rhia> oddball: they're figuring out how much % to offer you on the spam snailmail to flood your with
13:37 <@rhia> oddball: same here
13:38 <@rhia> but them soft checking your report won't hurt your credit
13:42 <@rhia> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news_index/financial.html     lots of good info on credit scattered around there
13:48 <@oddball> bah... to actually get you score, all three places require money
13:49 <@rhia> right, report free, score not -- get score from myFico
13:49 <@oddball> ah, ok
13:50 <@Dolemite> some credit card companies give their clients free scores
13:50 <@aestetix> Do you really have to pay $50 to get your score?
13:51 <@rhia> a lot of mortgage brokers will give you your score once you reach that point, like oddball has
13:51 <@oddball> wow... I've asked someone to give me the extension of the phone near them, and they gave me a blantantly wrong number.
13:51 <@nachoguy> oddball, they could just be retarded
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13:53 <@Shadow404> oh another good trick is apply for a credit card from a credit union, thats how i got my free credit score
13:53 <@Shadow404> of course if your declined it could have a negative effect
13:54 <@rhia> WaMu offers your Transunion score when you log on for your credit card stuff
13:54 <@Shadow404> but i did have a secure credit card for 6 months with them until i had enough credit to get offered a regular credit card
13:54 <@TheLightCosine> grr
13:54 <@rhia> i think CreditKarma.com gives a free Transunion something or other, too
13:58 <@TheLightCosine> okay i need a little bit of dns/hosting help again
13:58 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: ask your question
13:58 <@TheLightCosine> setting up a subdomain, when creating the virtualhost in apache2, do i set the servername to sub.thelightcosine.dnsdojo.net or to sub.thelightcosine.net?
13:59 <@TheLightCosine> since thelightcosine.net just uses CNAME to point to the dnsdojo one
13:59 <@brimstone> the later
13:59 <@brimstone> since it's a cname
13:59 <@Dolemite> what brimstone said
13:59 <@brimstone> you also need to setup the sub...net to point to sub...dnsdojo.net
14:00  * ware cant stop whistling 'so long and takes for all the fish'
14:00 <@brimstone> or could you do it with a wildcard at that point?
14:00 <@brimstone> *.thelightcosine.net CNAME thelightcosine.dnsdojo.net
14:00 <@TheLightCosine> yeah i already setup the cname for the sub
14:00 <@TheLightCosine> i just wanted to make sure i set the vhost up right
14:00 <@Corydon76-dig> As long as you're not trying to route mail, that's kosher
14:01 <@Corydon76-dig> but a mail server technically can't be a cname
14:01 <@oddball> Huh... apparently I have a pretty decent score.
14:01 <@TheLightCosine> hrm too bad i can't just cut dyndns out of the loop
14:01 <@Jagobah> what's decent
14:02 <@TheLightCosine> but i can't afford a static ip
14:02 <@Jagobah> I thought 740 was decent but that's just slightly above average now
14:02 <@oddball> 734
14:02 <@Dolemite> Over 700 is considered prime
14:02 <@TheLightCosine> i had over 700 once, i doubt it now
14:02 <@Jagobah> how can I tell american express to kindly stop sending me their awful credit card offers
14:02 <@TheLightCosine> too many debts now
14:03 <@TheLightCosine> damn, i did something wrong
14:03 <@rhia> TheLightCosine: as long as your ratio is still ok and you pay on time, your score may have gone up
14:03 <@oddball> Jagobah: I don't know... I applied once back when I had a score of 0... they don't send me offers anymore.
14:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Jagobah: you have to call their number and tell them explicitly
14:04 <@Corydon76-dig> "Take me off your mailing list"
14:04 <@Corydon76-dig> and don't take no for an answer.  They MUST comply under federal law.
14:05 <@TheLightCosine> woah, wtf something is wrong with this cname, when I dig it it shows a cname record but it doesn't have anything where it should have the target address
14:06 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: then your daemon to update the target address on the server probably isn't running (or is blocked by a firewall rule)
14:07 <@Corydon76-dig> or is disconnected
14:09 <@TheLightCosine> hrm
14:11 <@TheLightCosine> the vhost also is not setup right obviously because going to blog.thelightcosine.dnsdojo.net still takes me to the damn apache default page
14:12 <@TheLightCosine> lol i am making a mess of this!
14:13 <@Jagobah> Corydon76-dig:  Should I have the call recorded just in case they violate that law?
14:13 <@oddball> heh... in celebration of the release of the City of Heroes Mac client: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjXVhA86Vr4
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14:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Jagobah: you're welcome to, but the FTC doesn't investigate claims unless there are a pile of them
14:14 <@Jagobah> Ok I'll see how it goes
14:15 < ware> hey anyone have gmail chat video? i wanna try it out
14:16 <@brimstone> Jagobah: what's your quit message mean?
14:19 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: It's a quote by some anti-drug poster back in the 60s
14:19 <@Jagobah> It's an old quote from drug propoganda from the 60s
14:20 <@rhia> thought it was older than that ... hunh
14:21 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: might be, they have a way of recycling their message
14:22 <@Corydon76-dig> No matter how many times their message is debunked, they come up with new ways to spread their garbage
14:23 <@rhia> Anslinger, from the 30's
14:23 <@rhia> he was a real wack job
14:23 <@Evilpig> when will people understand to test shit before unleashing it on the public?  bah!
14:23 <@rhia> arguably the father of the War on Drugs
14:24 <@nachoguy> Evilpig, but that's not the "Agile" way!
14:24 <@nachoguy> the best test is production
14:25 <@Evilpig> in 20 min I get to log into wow and see if my egg hatched into anything cool
14:25 <@rhia> Evilpig: it
14:26 <@Evilpig> rhia: ?
14:26 <@rhia> s systemic - the National Rail in the UK did an upgrade 'test' live on their production system
14:27 <@rhia> just a couple days ago - no big deal, just fubar the entire rail system for a while <g>
14:30 <@rhia> http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/294885/182/      sigh
14:31 <@TheLightCosine> arg i've found 4 different sites about setting up these vhsots that all tell me to do it 4 different ways and none of them is working right
14:32 <@Evilpig> you have to pay a fee to enter a bar?  wtf
14:32 <@Evilpig> vhost in what?
14:32 <@TheLightCosine> apache2
14:32 <@Evilpig> what are you having trouble with?  it's super easy
14:33 <@Evilpig> at the bottom of your httpd.conf  put this on the last line NameVirtualHost *:80
14:33 <@Evilpig> then make a file for each of yoru vhosts
14:33 <@Evilpig> etc Include /home/se2600/se2600.org.conf
14:34 <@TheLightCosine> i setup a sub domain virtualhost for both blog.thelightcosine.dnsdojo.net and the blog.thelgihtcosine.net. i have the cname for thelgihtcosine.net apaprently messaed up, but when i try using blog.thelightcosine.dnsdojo.net it still goes to the default site
14:34 <@Evilpig> <VirtualHost *:80>
14:34 <@TheLightCosine> httpd.conf is empty
14:34 <@Evilpig>     ServerAdmin  spam@se2600.org
14:34 <@Evilpig>     ServerName se2600.org
14:34 <@Evilpig>     ServerAlias www.se2600.org
14:34 <@Evilpig>     ServerAlias www.se2600.com
14:34 <@Evilpig>     ServerAlias www.se2600.net
14:34 <@Evilpig>     ServerAlias se2600.com
14:34 <@Evilpig>     ServerAlias se2600.net
14:34 <@Evilpig>     ServerAlias 865.se2600.org
14:34 <@Evilpig> that is the actual first few lines from se2600.org's conf and it's a vhost
14:35 <@TheLightCosine> httpd.conf is an empty file on mine
14:35 <@Evilpig> gimme an email and I can shoot you some example configs
14:35 <@TheLightCosine> maloney.davidj@gmail.com
14:35 <@Evilpig> you'll have to find your actual apache conf file
14:36 <@TheLightCosine> what i've been reading said to create a file in conf.d then create a seperate file for each subdomain under sites-available
14:36 <@Evilpig> suse?
14:36 <@TheLightCosine> ubuntu
14:38 <@Evilpig> not sure ont he exact files there.  but you should have mail from me ina  sec
14:38 <@Evilpig> main thing is you have to get that NameVirtualHost in there otherwise it will ignore all of your vhosts
14:39 <@TheLightCosine> right and i have in /etc/apache2/conf.d/virtual.conf
14:39 <@TheLightCosine> i have NameVirtualHost *
14:40 <@Evilpig> what is the first line in each of your virtual config files?
14:41 <@Shadow404> man the japaneese IT people crack me up, they freak out about anything and litterally look over your shoulder and think everything has to be done instantly
14:41 <@TheLightCosine> <VirtualHost *>
14:42 <@Evilpig> well that should get it.  
14:42 <@Evilpig> you do have your dns setup right for it?
14:42 <@Evilpig> and you have your servername and serveralias directives in there?
14:43 <@Evilpig> you did remember to restart apache after putting your configs in there right?
14:43 <@TheLightCosine> yep
14:48 <@TheLightCosine> i wonder if maybe something with the dyndns isn't fucking it up, i have it set for the wildcard hosts alias maybe i should try turning that off
14:49 <@Evilpig> C:\>ping blog.thelgihtcosine.net
14:49 <@Evilpig> Ping request could not find host blog.thelgihtcosine.net. Please check the name
14:49 <@Evilpig> and try again.
14:49 <@Evilpig> C:\>ping blog.thelightcosine.net
14:49 <@Evilpig> Pinging thelightcosine.dnsdojo.net [98.211.40.228] with 32 bytes of data:
14:50 <@Dolemite> I am definitely loving the "My Portfolio" section on Bank of America...  it's a very good use of Web 2.0 mashup
14:53 <@TheLightCosine> hrm pinging blog.thelightcosine.net now goes to the right address but oddly i get a "cannot establish connection" error
14:54 <@Shadow404> flush your dns cache?
14:54 <@TheLightCosine> woah httpd seems to have crashed out
14:55 <@nachoguy> hrm, I don't think I've done this yet today, this week, this month, or this year.  Who wants to buy a condo in lovely south suburban Chicago?
14:56 <@Evilpig> I detect marketing speak.  lovely south suburban cicago doesn't exist
14:57 <@nachoguy> Actually it does
14:57 <@Shadow404> Actually it does'nt
14:57 <@Evilpig> I would have accepted south suburban chicago
14:57 <@nachoguy> And the condo is actually in a pretty nice neighborhood
14:58 <@nachoguy> Shadow404, ever been to Chicago?
14:58 <@Shadow404> yes
14:58 <@nachoguy> where abouts?
14:58 <@Shadow404> east suburbia
14:58 <@Shadow404> and the main city
14:58 <@TheLightCosine> shit everytime i try and restart apache now it fails telling me httpd is not running
14:59 <@nachoguy> there is no east suburbia.  That's called Lake Michigan
14:59 <@Shadow404> ah, that would explain why it was so wet
15:01 <@Evilpig> tail /var/log/httpd/error
15:02 <@TheLightCosine> uh
15:02 <@TheLightCosine> no such file or directory
15:03 <@TheLightCosine> wth is going on...
15:05 <@aestetix> South Chicago is awesome.
15:05 <@nachoguy> maybe the server is hosted in Eastern suburbia of Chicago
15:05 <@aestetix> I recommend cruising through Cottage Grove
15:05 <@nachoguy> heh, yeah
15:06  * aestetix has actually done this
15:06 <@nachoguy> well, Cottage grove is a street and cottage grove heights is a neighborhood
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15:07 <@nachoguy> me too, though not aimlessly.
15:07 <@nachoguy> I've also been to Chicago Heights, Robbins, Phoenix and all the fun places, but those aren't the neighborhoods the condo is in.
15:08 <@aestetix> I had a friend who lived around there.
15:08 <@aestetix> I knew something was up when all the white people got off the train.
15:09 <@nachoguy> heh, you must've been taking the redline
15:09 <@Evilpig> ubuntu doesn't use normal paths I assume
15:09 <@Evilpig> or is it error_log
15:09 <@Evilpig> either way you shoudl get something there
15:10 <@nachoguy> after 35th street, there aren't too many white people that stay on the train
15:15 <@Evilpig> just got a call from a customer bitching at me that I haven't fixed his windows 2008 server that he has been trying to connect windows98 machines to
15:15 < ware> lol why havent you fixed it yet?!
15:15 <@Evilpig> I haven't even touched his server.  don't know shit about it
15:15 <@Evilpig> not even my fucking customer!
15:15 < ware> lol why havent you fixed it yet?!!!!!
15:15 <@Evilpig> I just sent him an email on how to fix it.  that douchefuck is an mcse too
15:17 <@Shadow404> why haven't you fixed it yet!?!?!?
15:17 < ware> 'hey douchefuck -> google.com'
15:17 <@Evilpig> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/2aa4de55-58a0-4624-9561-e725dc58bc5e/
15:17 <@Evilpig> he claims to have spent 10 hours on it
15:17 < ware> Evilpig: so do you chat in vent with underaged girls that are addicted to WoW?
15:17 <@Shadow404> more like 4 mins
15:17 <@Shadow404> ware: who doesnt?
15:17 <@Shadow404> thats the best thing about vent
15:18 <@Dolemite> yay for short meetings
15:18 < ware> i had my first run in with one last night, was a little creepy
15:18 <@Evilpig> ware: uhhh wha?
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15:18 < ware> i was grouped with someone while i was questing, they were like jump in vent
15:19 < ware> and it was a psycho chick
15:19 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: are you a guild officer?
15:19 <@Dolemite> Your ex was on WoW?
15:19 < ware> going on about how shes addicted to WoW and schedules everything around it and plays for 14hrs a day bla bla bla
15:19 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: fuck no.  I dont' want responsibility
15:19 <@Shadow404> ok, nm then
15:19 < ware> Dolemite: ive come to realize she isnt psycho, shes just a whore unfortunately like most young women are today
15:20 < ware> and i was the idiot that blinded myself to it in the name of 'love'
15:20 <@aestetix> wtf
15:20 <@Shadow404> aestetix: hes talking about kho
15:20 <@aestetix> Yes I know
15:20 <@aestetix> my wtf was regarding the wow girls
15:20 <@Shadow404> oh
15:21  * aestetix gives Shadow404 the failhat
15:21 <@Shadow404> dude, better define your wtf, we moved onto a seperate topic
15:21 < ware> yuh... she was crazy. kept telling me how she has no money IRL and i got the feeling she wanted to cyber or something for paypals
15:21 <@Dementia> OTOH, I was on WoW the other night and grouped up with a couple guys to help them finish a quest, and got on vent, and then one of them would not stop harassing me after he heard I was really a girl.
15:21 < ware> she was 18 tho, freshman in college so it woulda been kosher
15:22 <@aestetix> Dementia: if they ask for pics, send them a photo of nancy reagan
15:22 <@Evilpig> Dementia: I was harassing you before I got on vent
15:22 <@Dementia> hah
15:22 <@Shadow404> Dementia: oh c'mon, we know you like the attention from younder men
15:22 < ware> Dementia: im not one of those dbags but i know the type *cough*pig
15:22 < ware> ;_)
15:22 <@Shadow404> *younger
15:22 <@Dementia> Evilpig: you never stop harassing me
15:22  * Evilpig licks Dementia 
15:22  * aestetix has a thing for older women
15:22 <@Dementia> Shadow404: um... no.
15:22 <@Shadow404> aestetix: same
15:22 < ware> Evilpig: my spoolsv.exe is using 50% cpu constantly, plz tell me how2 fix while i irc on billable time thnx
15:22  * Dementia kicks Evilpig in the shins
15:22 <@Shadow404> Dementia: mine i bring up pn?
15:23 <@Evilpig> net stop "print spooler"
15:23 <@Shadow404> *mind
15:23 <@aestetix> Dementia: wanna split a room a PN13?
15:23 <@Evilpig> next
15:23 <@Dementia> Shadow404: if you're into ancient history.
15:23 <@Shadow404> oh, ok
15:23 < ware> aestetix: i hear the mountains in CO are full with snow cougar :D
15:23 <@Dementia> aestetix: like I'd go.
15:23 <@Evilpig> actually i'd think that is a driver ware
15:24 <@aestetix> ware: so are the streets of NYC
15:24 < ware> this box is all lagged to hell like explorer is freezing up along with multiple apps, i dunno if its the spooler but ive never seen one stay at 50% constantly
15:24 <@brimstone> ware: zomg virus scan
15:25 <@Shadow404> fresh install
15:25 < ware> ...or F1 !!! m$ help and support ftw (love when i hit that on accident)
15:28 <@Evilpig> bah.  I forgot my exhcnage server handles the domain for that listserv.  so it can't send to an address that doesn't exist
15:28 < ware> hrm... theres no printers installed
15:28  * ware disables teh spooler.. lol
15:29 <@TheLightCosine> wow
15:29 <@TheLightCosine> i'm a jackass
15:30 <@TheLightCosine> i had a typo in the path to the rror log for the virtualhost and that's why apache wouldn't restart
15:31 < ware> hehe how long did that take ya searching thru the configs
15:32 < ware> re:topic anyone know what happened with comcast last night?
15:32 <@aestetix> man
15:32 <@aestetix> I am pushing this emachine to its limit
15:33 <@TheLightCosine> ware: i managed to check the error logs and see what was choking it
15:33 <@TheLightCosine> w00t and now it is working!
15:33 < ware> i use an emachine with a 8800gts as a gaming machine :(  up'd it to 4gb ram but i need dualcore action
15:34 <@TheLightCosine> ware: i'd like to know what happened too
15:34 <@TheLightCosine> i could hit the dhcp server but nothing outside of my segment
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15:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> \o/
15:37 <@M0j0-j0j0> finally I got my xorg working the way I want it to
15:40 <@Shadow404> i xorg'ed your mom
15:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> Shadow404: thank you.  I'm sure she needed it
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15:41 <@Shadow404> lawl
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15:59 < ware> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21701200-southeast-comcast-packet-loss-tennessee-router-outage-nashv
16:01 <@oddball> I was wondering about that last night.
16:03 < ware> 2hrs to replace a router is reasonable i guess
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16:04 < ware> not quite supa speed but enought to deal with
16:04 < ware> enough*
16:09 < eryc> looks like the analog tv cutoff is getting extended
16:10 <@I-MOD> ...
16:10 < ware> wuuut
16:25 <@sdodson> eryc: lame
16:38 < booker404> eryc: out of curiousity, where did you hear/how did you infer that?
16:40 < eryc> the interwebs told me
16:40 < eryc> "Now is the time to put your fair-weather Web friendships to the test," the Whopper Sacrifice site explains. "Install Whopper Sacrifice on your Facebook profile, and we'll reward you with a free flame-broiled Whopper when you sacrifice ten of your friends.
16:41 < eryc> http://i.gizmodo.com/5126573/obama-asks-congress-for-analog-tv-shutdown-delay
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16:52 <@polerin> epic jam
16:58 <@aestetix> you know
16:58 <@aestetix> I just started playing Toe Jam & Earl a couple weeks ago.
16:59 <@polerin> heh
16:59 <@aestetix> I can't get through a level without dancing to the music
16:59 <@polerin> heh
16:59 <@polerin> I was more thinking of the jam I just made
16:59 <@polerin> last night
16:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dance Dance Revolution the Toe Jam & Earl edition
16:59 <@polerin> it is easily one of the tastiest fucking things I have ever had in my life
16:59 <@rhia> polerin: what kind?
17:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> Toe?
17:00 <@polerin> pepper
17:00 <@rhia> i made homemade sicilian pizza last night, very good, but the dough Really liked the yeast - had 4" high pizza
17:00 <@polerin> mostly green bell pepper, but with a little jalapino thrown in for aftertaste
17:01 <@polerin> it's not spicy at all, just warming after you stop eating for a sec
17:01 <@M0j0-j0j0> I fixed my router last night.. didn't taste so good
17:01 <@polerin> lol
17:01 <@polerin> I love pizza like that
17:01 <@polerin> fluffy and moist .. yum
17:01 < eryc> how long does it take to make jam?
17:01 <@polerin> eryc: this recipie took about..  40 min or so
17:01 <@polerin> I can send it to you if you want
17:02 < eryc> nah i would start out simpler i think
17:02 <@polerin> the recipie, not the jam.  I only have 4 pints, and I need to hand it out.
17:02 < eryc> maybe strawberry jam
17:02 <@polerin> it really is simple
17:02 <@polerin> like
17:02 <@polerin> really
17:02 <@polerin> really
17:02 <@polerin> simple
17:02 <@polerin> chop up bell peppers, chop up jalapinos, drain for an hour (go do other things)
17:03 < eryc> thats cool, for some reason i thought making jam was more involved like pickling, etc
17:03 < eryc> how do you make it jammy?
17:03 < eryc> pectin?
17:03 <@rhia> some fruit jams are more involved
17:03 <@polerin> put the chopped peppers in paper towels to soak up a little more, put in a pot with sugar, pectin, and some white wine vinegar.  bring to boil and boil for 1 minute, ladel into sterilized jars
17:04 <@polerin> close jars, then boil the jars for 10 minutes
17:04 <@rhia> but most are - wash fruit, dry, follow above instructions
17:04 <@polerin> yeah
17:04 <@rhia> just have to make sure the jars and lids are microscopically intensively _clean_
17:05 <@polerin> boil for 10 minutes, kthx
17:06 <@polerin> one of my new years resolutions is to start learning how to seperate myself from the corperate food chain
17:06 <@rhia> polerin: heard of whole batches gone bad because the jars weren't clean .... when putting up dozens at a time, that's depressing (and expensive)
17:06 < eryc> what happens if they arent clean? mold?
17:06 <@polerin> rhia: yeah
17:06 <@rhia> mold, food poisoning, botulism, all kinds of nasties
17:06 <@polerin> well, I only made about 4.5 jars.. halfed recipie
17:07 < eryc> i think it would be cool to sell jam
17:07 <@polerin> and I'm goign to give those away to friends
17:07 <@polerin> eryc: unless you can source the components really cheaply, it's not worth it
17:07 < eryc> i would make rare jams
17:07 < eryc> like guano bat poo jam
17:07 <@polerin> it cost about $15 to make those 4 pints, not counting labor and jars
17:07 <@polerin> lol
17:08 <@rhia> mom used to make a crabapple peach pear jam that was amazingly good
17:08 <@polerin> yeah I bet it
17:08 <@rhia> just tart enough, just sweet enough ... never could make enough <g>
17:09 <@polerin> crabapples are nice and tart, and when put in with peaches and pears it would compliment well
17:09 <@polerin> rhia: this is actually exactly how the pepper turned out
17:09 <@polerin> the pepper absorbed the sugar very well, and the pectin had some tart in it
17:09 <@rhia> yum
17:09 <@rhia> send recipe <g>
17:10 <@polerin> sure :)
17:11 < eryc> i found a good source for my guano jam!
17:11 < eryc> http://www.homeharvest.com/guano.htm
17:11 <@polerin> heh
17:11 <@polerin> I mean, I'm pretty sure that if you were buying builk you could do it well, but it'd be a whole bunch of work
17:12 <@polerin> I'm going to learn how to do it for myself and for friends
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17:33 <@polerin> http://eclexia.livejournal.com/27373.html  <--- rhia
17:39 <@sdodson> tits or gtfo
17:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> that's exactly what I was thinking
17:41 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: you have your own tits
17:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> well.. it all started between Bob bitch tits
17:43 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: no
17:44 <@sdodson> soooo should i go to trilug meeting and suffer through ubuntu users or no?
17:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I got my xorg.conf fixed :)
17:44 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: what was wrong?
17:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: does Brad Oaks still go to trilug meetings?
17:45 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: I hear that name every now and then. And when I've looked at the trilug mail archives he's all over there
17:45 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: not really sure.. I think it just wanted me to used the fireGL driver instead of vesa
17:45 <@sdodson> I mainly go because I'm here until about 7pm anyway and they have free pizza
17:45 <@sdodson> The trilug meetings are very hit and miss.
17:46 <@sdodson> sometimes they're good, sometimes they're either really elementary or a sales pitch
17:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: well, if you go and if you run into boaks tell him he's missed and should come back to work here
17:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: the only time I ever see him any more is when they have a PerlMongers meeting here.
17:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: and it goes without saying that you should tell him that the cake is a lie.
17:51 <@sdodson> i thought perl mongers was here?
17:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: *shrug* they do it here every now and then
17:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> 1/2 the people at PM used to work here
17:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> but I don't think anyone that goes to PM works here anymore
17:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> hmm
17:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> maybe that's why they are having them there now instead of here... because getting into the building without a keycard would be a fail
17:54 <@nachoguy> mj, where do you work?
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17:55 <@nachoguy> shiny
17:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> ?
17:55 <@nachoguy> well, g'night, and have a good weekend.
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17:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: you could skip the trilug meet and go tot he gym with me :) you know I have to ask
17:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> telco's been sick so I don't want to call him up and see if he wants to go
17:57 <@sdodson> or i can go to trilug, then go home and work out there
17:57 <@sdodson> free pizza and gym!
17:57 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: you still at work?
17:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: yeah
17:58 <@sdodson> beh, i don't feel like pizza
17:58 <@sdodson> ok, i'll go to the gym with you
17:58 <@sdodson> but i gotta get something to eat first
17:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: cool
17:58 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: what time you talking?
17:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> well, I was getting ready to cut out.. but I was going to swing by CaryTownCenter cause one of the diamonds in my ring looks like it's going to fall out
18:01 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: so... why don't I do that and then give you a buzz.
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18:38 <@aestetix> Ok.
18:38 <@aestetix> Let's say you're going on a first date.
18:38 <@aestetix> Who pays?
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18:56 <+cerkit> Who ever asked the other person out, wtf?
18:57 <+cerkit> The ask'or
18:57 <+cerkit> The ask'ee just sits there and enjoys free shit
18:57 <+cerkit> Thats SOP.
18:59 < ware> the guy pays
18:59 < ware> period
18:59 <@rhia> the asker pays -
18:59 <@rhia> unless the askee offers to go dutch (pay their half)
19:00 <+cerkit> rhia: exactly.
19:00 <+cerkit> the way any two civilized humans would do it.
19:00 <+cerkit> those having sex (potentially) or otherwise
19:01 <@rhia> it's also pretty much standard dating etiquette for the last 20 yrs or so
19:01 < ware> so a gal asks you to take her out, and she should be expected to pay for both parties?
19:01 <@rhia> she asks you out - or - she asks you to take her out?
19:02 <@rhia> 1st, she pays, 2nd, she's using you for a meal
19:02 < ware> nitpickin
19:02 <@rhia> no, its not
19:02 <@rhia> if you're not comfortable with her paying, offer to pay your half....
19:02 < eryc> i let the girls pay
19:03 < ware> craziness.
19:03 < eryc> better to buy me shit than makeup or clothes yaknow
19:03 < ware> must be my southern gentleman expecting the guy to pay
19:03 < eryc> i hold the door, they hold the money
19:04 <@rhia> friends hanging out pay dutch or _possibly_ pick up the tab if they know the other is unemployed/broke (and was kind enough to order lightly)
19:05 < eryc> "i'll get the next one"
19:05  * rhia nods
19:06 <@rhia> ware: if it makes you feel better, when you ask for the check, ask her "mind if i pick this up?" ...
19:06 < ware> ive done that plenty of times
19:06 <+cerkit> why would the guy always pay?
19:07 <@rhia> cerkit: chauvinism ?
19:07 <+cerkit> why would anyone be uncomfotable having someone buy them some food?
19:07 < ware> no its traditional
19:07 <+cerkit> Its food.
19:07 < ware> and im traditional
19:07 < eryc> girls arent allowed to have jobs
19:07 < ware> so thats my opionion
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19:07 < ware> back in the day the guy may have paid cause they made more money
19:07 <@rhia> cerkit: uncomfortable if the rest of the date is going bad - i'd rather just pay my own and leave
19:08 < ware> not applicable today, but i still think its a gentlemanly thing to do
19:08 < eryc> nah its still applicable
19:08 <+cerkit> rhia: I don't know-- I must be uber tolerant or totally inconsiderate.
19:08 <+cerkit> Its not that big a deal to me.
19:08 <@rhia> ware: holdover from when the guys had the job, women didn't .....
19:08 <@Corydon76-dig> That's right; if I pay for your meal, you're the woman.
19:08 < eryc> women still make less
19:08 <+cerkit> Its stuff on a plate... shit, sometimes less than that :)
19:08 <@rhia> eryc: true
19:08 < ware> rhia: when you taking me out to dinner then ;)
19:09 <@rhia> cerkit: hehe - i rarely ever turn down a free meal <g>
19:09 <@rhia> ware: we'
19:09 <@rhia> re talking dating, ain't gonna happen
19:09 <+cerkit> rhia: I've had maybe... 10 dinner dates my whole life.
19:09 <+cerkit> 12 tops
19:09 < ware> rofl
19:10 <+cerkit> Actually...
19:10 < ware> cause you keep making them pay
19:10 < ware> hahaha
19:10 <@Drag0n> some would say its a negotiation proccess, a bidding war for the outcome, is he/she spending what i feel i'm worth for my time and self respect? is he/she worth what i'm spending?
19:10 <+cerkit> I may have had 10-12 DATES
19:10 <+cerkit> my whole life.
19:10 <+cerkit> But thats just because of the clear definition of a date.
19:10 <+cerkit> I dont consider two people randomly meeting in some situation, resulting in a two day affair a date.
19:11 <+cerkit> And that is just how shit seems to happen to me.
19:11 < ware> Drag0n: i would agree, but i dont think its the womans place to have to pay for my time
19:11 <+cerkit> ware: very untraditionally.
19:11 <@rhia> ware: because i'm married,  i have kids older than you, you're definitively not my type, and i don't think the evening would be tolerable for either of us ...
19:11 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: that makes you a MILF
19:12 < ware> lol you people will never cease to crack me up ;)
19:12 <@Corydon76-dig> A real turn on for ware
19:12  * ware points a damning yet slightly respectful finger at the lot of weirdos
19:12 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: sux for him then, doesn't it?
19:12 <@Drag0n> well, I sure think she's a MILF, but thats because i do <g>
19:12 < ware> Drag0n: haha
19:12 < ware> rhia: you read much to far into my sarcastic comment
19:12 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: i'm not into kids <g>
19:13 <@Drag0n> and no one else will <g>
19:13 <@Drag0n> i will make sure of it
19:13 <+cerkit> I could never get married.
19:13 <@Drag0n> MILF, it does a body hard...err, good
19:13 <+cerkit> a) you have to have someone else who likes you, and b) i have long commitments
19:14 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: I'm into a guy who is 8 years my junior
19:14 <+cerkit> hate long*
19:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Dunno if that counts as a kid or not, though
19:14 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: 8 isn't bad, 15+ starts getting too weird
19:14 < ware> <- 23
19:14 <@rhia> ware: like i said, my kids are older than you
19:15 <@Drag0n> if your young enough to have been an offspring, then your too young
19:15 < eryc> i dated a 72 yr old once
19:15 <@scoil> creepy guy age
19:15 < eryc> that was hot
19:15 <+cerkit> hahaha
19:15 < ware> rhia: got any cute daughters?
19:15 <+cerkit> eryc: Went out for ice-cream... a will reading...
19:15 < ware> ill pay for the dinner :P
19:15 <@Drag0n> cerkit, a hearing aid fitting
19:15 <+cerkit> Drag0n: haha
19:16 <@rhia> Drag0n: no hearing aid, don't want her overhearing the changes to her will ;)
19:16 <@Drag0n> SERENITY NOW:
19:16 <@Drag0n>                 I am into solitude, long walks, sunrises, the ocean, yoga and meditation.
19:16 <@Drag0n>                 If you are the silent type, let's get together, take our hearing aids out and enjoy quiet times.
19:16 <+cerkit> Do you think when you're laying there dying, if you've never been married, those last breaths will be filled with lonely regret?
19:17 <+cerkit> I don't.
19:17 <@Drag0n> Active grandmother with original teeth seeking a dedicated flosser to share rare steaks, corn on the cob and caramel candy.
19:17 < Someninjaiphone_> Haha
19:17 <@Drag0n> I can usually remember Monday through Thursday. If you can remember Friday, Saturday and Sunday, let's put our two heads together.
19:17 <@rhia> my last thoughts will be either "WTF, i ain't ready to leave yet!" or "its about damn time"
19:17 <@Drag0n> Male, 1932, high mileage, good condition, some hair, many new parts including hip, knee, cornea, valves. Isn't in running condition, but walks well
19:18 <+cerkit> I assume you feel nothing but lonely regret regardless.
19:18 <+cerkit> You're dying.
19:19 <@Drag0n> nope, when i get to that point, it will be with reserved curiosity, death, the final hack, knowing whats on the other side
19:19 <@Drag0n> im not afraid of dying, just the process of getting there
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19:19 <+cerkit> I'm not afraid of dying either, thats not it at all.
19:20 <+cerkit> And I know exactly what death feels like.
19:20 <+cerkit> And what it will be like afterward.
19:20 <@rhia> if you live your life with no regrets, why would you have them when you die?
19:20 <+cerkit> Its exactly like before you were born.
19:20 <+cerkit> no life == no life
19:20 <+cerkit> heh
19:21 <@rhia> cerkit: that's helpful, we all remember before we were born <g>
19:21 <+cerkit> I do
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19:21 <@aestetix> vagina
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19:21 <+cerkit> Theres nothing.
19:21 <+cerkit> Void.
19:21 <@aestetix> Nihil?
19:21 <+cerkit> You breakdown and in the most... reflective sense become part of the universe.
19:22 <+cerkit> What else should there be?
19:22 <+cerkit> Pearly Gates, St. Peter and leatherbound book?
19:22 < ware> lolmoet
19:22 <@rhia> lots of mead & meat
19:22 < ware> i made hamburger helper
19:22 < ware> and it was awesome
19:23 < Someninjaiphone_> Nice ware
19:23 <+cerkit> I like the idea that thats how life ends.
19:23 <+cerkit> It means the time I spend here, and the things I do, mean something.
19:25 <+cerkit> If theres MORE SHIT
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19:25 <+cerkit> after this?
19:25 <+cerkit> I'll be tired... and pissed.
19:25 <@rhia> cerkit: what if the universe just recycles?  and you keep coming back again and again?
19:26 <@Drag0n> at least you get to recharge first from the universal source
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19:26 <+cerkit> rhia: Then I am terrified.
19:26 <@Drag0n> if only they didnt reformat the storage array
19:27 <+cerkit> rhia: The idea of being completely out of control, of existing for eternity, in a world where you have even less control over the moment to moment...
19:27 <+cerkit> rhia: doesn't seem a big scary?
19:27 <+cerkit> buit*
19:28 <+cerkit> bit
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19:30 <@rhia> http://www.thegivingmovement.org/index.html  <-- not the most encouraging opening page
19:31  * aestetix loads the canon with twitter jokes
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20:25 <@nightcarnage> hey what's w/ the Topic? is there a news link?
20:25 <@brimstone> just the outage last night
20:25 <@brimstone> messed up a lot of us
20:26 <@nightcarnage> oh.. thought y'all where talkin about Bit Torrent Throttling or something
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20:52 <@rhia> energy efficient dishwasher:
20:52 <@rhia> http://www.riahsoftware.com/fuseblog/Fuseblog/images/dishwasher.jpg
20:57 <@sdodson> it makes me lulz that exchange 2007 comes with a shell
21:00 < ware> nightcarnage: i posted it earlier
21:01 < ware> they had a router go back in nashville that took out most of TN
21:01 < ware> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21701200-southeast-comcast-packet-loss-tennessee-router-outage-nashv
21:02 <@Drag0n> you ca install server 2008 without a gui from what i hear
21:02 < ware> yep
21:02 <@brimstone> i can't get server 2k8 to install without having to boot off the cd when it's done
21:02 < ware> itll run just off powershell
21:03 <@brimstone> aww, i liked that i had 3d accelerated graphics on my mail server
21:04 < ware> lol silly maker, 3d is for kids!
21:05 < ware> its all about teh flops
21:05 < ware> mega... peta... flip
21:05 < ware> belly
21:05 < ware> rofl
21:08 <@polerin> ware: AS01
21:08 < ware> ?
21:09 < ware> as01flop?
21:09 <@polerin> was the router iirc
21:09 < ware> oh im not sue
21:09 < ware> sure*
21:10 <@polerin> can't remember
21:16 <+cerkit> I believe I have found...
21:16 <+cerkit> the greatest online forum comment
21:16 <+cerkit> of the Internet's history
21:16 <+cerkit> ---
21:16 <+cerkit> I've been hanging out in the forums FAR too long. I've reached a point where the trolls and the actually stupid have become one amorphous entity and I can no longer tell the difference. I think the only reasonable thing to do at this point is have a mental breakdown.. brb.
21:16 <+cerkit> ---
21:19 <@rhia> cerkit: heh
21:19 <@rhia> brb seals it
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21:19 <+cerkit> If you saw the whole post
21:19 <+cerkit> and then read it
21:19 <+cerkit> rhia: http://www.okcupid.com/forum?low=1&tid=7223997838631196585
21:19 <+cerkit> I think you would be without doubt.
21:20 <+cerkit> Its worth it.
21:24 < eryc> We encountered an error loading this topic. Please try again later.
21:24 <@rhia> like that same guys later post, too, sums up the whole scenario+forum:  "JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!"
21:25 <+cerkit> heh
21:25 <+cerkit> This girl is the definition of online whore.
21:26 <+cerkit> Why do people mistreat themselves like that?
21:26 < eryc> do you have an okcupid account?
21:26 <+cerkit> ME?
21:26 < eryc> yes
21:26 <+cerkit> Fuck no.
21:27 <+cerkit> What would I do with an OKCupid account?
21:27 < eryc> you just read the forum?
21:27 <+cerkit> No.
21:27 < eryc> i dunno thats why im asking
21:27 < Mercster> bone chicks
21:27 <+cerkit> I read websites.
21:27 <+cerkit> They link to other websites.
21:27 <@brimstone> one thing leads to another and you didn't know she was 16
21:28 <+cerkit> I happened on this.
21:28 <+cerkit> I think its on like some shit like reddit or something though
21:28 <@rhia> cerkit: Hamden's pretty cool, too "But.You.Made.The.Thread."  in response to her whining about the thread
21:29 <+cerkit> eryc: You should know by now, the Internet will give you a gem from time to time.
21:29 <@rhia> eryc: it's a classic thread, may end up all over the place in a day or so
21:29 <+cerkit> Its almost impossible that someone is as stupid as she is.
21:29 < Mercster> stop having a boring tuna
21:29 <+cerkit> And yet, could still have the ability to post that message.
21:29 < eryc> i wonder why the page wont work for me
21:30 < eryc> ahh
21:30 < eryc> i was including the irc timestamp in the url
21:30  * eryc goes on to reading the thread
21:30 <+cerkit> eryc: You'll like it.
21:32 <+cerkit> rhia: It is now #1 on reddit
21:32 <+cerkit> under "what's hot"
21:33 <+cerkit> 1437 up votes.
21:33 <@rhia> cerkit: like she looked on their first meeting? <g>
21:34 <+cerkit> I don't know.
21:34 <+cerkit> rhia: if you talked to someone on line for 3 weeks like she describes abd you showed up...
21:34 <+cerkit> and dude acted that way...
21:34 <+cerkit> would the route she took EVER even remotely enter your head?
21:35 <@rhia> to take a style from Hamden:  Not.A.Chance.In.Hell  <g>
21:35 <+cerkit> hahaha
21:35 <+cerkit> I can't even tell you I wish there more girls like that, because I don't want them pro-creating
21:36 <+cerkit> Theres no good that can come from someone so dumb, as to expect people were doing to understand her side.
21:37 <+cerkit> "Naturally, I go home and drink almost a full bottle of wine when I get a text message from him."
21:37 <+cerkit> Thats I think the line that made me really stop and blink.\
21:37 <@rhia> procreating with UNbelievable JERKs!
21:37 <+cerkit> Naturally...
21:37 <@rhia> naturally, of course
21:37 <+cerkit> she drinks a full fucking bottle of wine?
21:38 <+cerkit> man.
21:38 <@sdodson> cerkit: lets get drunk man!
21:38 <@rhia> doesn't EVERYONE drink a whole bottle of wine after meeting a jerk?
21:38 <+cerkit> I've never drank a bottle of win.
21:38 <+cerkit> wine*
21:38 <@rhia> cerkit: did you see her other post that 'the jerk' found?
21:38 <+cerkit> So I have no idea what it actually entails
21:39 <+cerkit> But, it sounds like a lot -- since I've had a glass of wine
21:39 <+cerkit> And it was a lot like cough medicine in my opinion
21:39 < eryc> The sad, erm, I mean scary part is that those pictures really do make her look like someone I'd date, my inner Ahab wasn't even going off at all. I just hope I never fall into one of those traps.
21:39 <+cerkit> rhia: No, I'll have to look deeper
21:39 <@rhia> http://www.okcupid.com/forum?low=1&tid=711299799341351408
21:40 <@sdodson> rhia: are you looking for me on okcupid?!
21:41 <+cerkit> Oh shit
21:41 <+cerkit> so, she did that to do the dude beforehand?
21:41 <+cerkit> that same guy?
21:41 <@rhia> sdodson:  sorry to break yer heart, but no -  cerkit posted the link, i found another one embedded in the drama
21:41 <@sdodson> rhia: i'm going to cry myself to sleep tonight
21:41 <@sdodson> thanks
21:41 <+cerkit> Thats unruley.
21:41 <+cerkit> She deserved it.
21:42 <@sdodson> NPR sounds SO MUCH BETTAR with a subwoofer
21:42 <@sdodson> It really brings out the nasal voices and mic pops
21:43 <+cerkit> I understand why you did it, but seriously, why? You aren't unattractive, in fact you have some rather nice facial features I can tell in your real photo. And you don't look incredibly overweight either. I will tell you something, though: Life isn't all about how you "actually" look, it's how you present yourself. It's being able to play up your good aspects and down play the bad.
21:43 <+cerkit> ^^^ she gets advice from the equally stupid
21:43 <@rhia> cerkit: different guy,
21:43 <+cerkit> rhia: Oh, so, she pretended to be hot with one dude...
21:43 <+cerkit> And when that didn't work out...
21:43 <+cerkit> she was herself.
21:44 <+cerkit> Which didn't work out.
21:44 <@rhia> and when that didn't work, she texted the guy afterwards anyways, then fucked him, then bitched about it online
21:45 <@rhia> the guy she met under the stolen size 0 images that she lied & posted?  here's her response to his reply that he wasn't comfortable with the situation:
21:45 <+cerkit> The only thing worse than her life before today... is her life now that everyone on the fucking Internet knows about it.
21:45 <@rhia> "Okay, so I am full on heartbroken and feeling extremely jaded. This guy was actually deceieving me. He pretended to be a cool guy who cared mostly for personality when it turns out he was a tool like every other guy. And I hope he reads this, and even has the balls to respond, though I doubt it. I am furious right now, and all your jerk-off posts are what's pathetic. God, I hate that asshole, but at the same time, I love him."
21:46 <@rhia> She lied to HIM and HE'S the asshole .....
21:46 <+cerkit> Well obviously.
21:46 <@rhia> can we say "pyscho twinkie"? i think we can
21:46 <+cerkit> I saw psycho in her eyes.
21:46 <@sdodson> nope, i just tried, i have a speech impetement
21:47 <+cerkit> The pictures look like they were taken in a ward.
21:47 <+cerkit> She should have kept using the size 0 pics.
21:50 <+cerkit> I did read today semen has mind control properties.
21:50 <+cerkit> Maybe she was cumdumb(tm).
21:50 <@rhia> big brain or little brain?
21:51 <+cerkit> big brain
21:51 <+cerkit> I'll find it for you
21:51 <@rhia> it's had mind control properties over the little brain since time immemorial <g>
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21:52 <+cerkit> http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:kPpXD0R53UMJ:www.psychophysiolab.com/uhess/pubs/HBSF07.pdf+%22Hess%22+%22Sexual+activity+*+inversely%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
21:52 <+cerkit> It was a result of that study
21:52 <+cerkit> oh wait
21:53 <+cerkit> that might be wrong link
21:53 <+cerkit> yeah
21:53 <+cerkit> here it is
21:53 <+cerkit> http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0060178&ct=1
21:53 <+cerkit> Proteomics Reveals Novel Drosophila Seminal Fluid Proteins Transferred at Mating
21:54 <+cerkit> in short, semen has mind control-like effects
21:58 <@rhia> well, oxytocin has a bit too
21:58 < eryc> so looking at a few of these girls that reponded with, "i'm 200+ but i dont look fat" ...
21:58 < eryc> http://cdn.okcimg.com/php/load_okc_image.php/images/150x150/737x1500/407x150/618x360/0/14604277125155315557.jpeg
21:58 < eryc> wtf
21:58 <@jb7od> XD
21:59 <+cerkit> eryc: she's not your type then?
22:00 <+cerkit> the only good thing is, she found the world's most unattractive chair... to lean on.
22:00 <+cerkit> it takes attention away from her
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22:01 < eryc> whats with the flashlights and baseball bat??
22:01 < eryc> thats the part that got me
22:01 <+cerkit> She looks like the female Casey Jones from TMNT
22:02 <+cerkit> She has a gun too
22:02 <+cerkit> look on her hip
22:02 <+cerkit> left side
22:03 <+cerkit> This thread is fantastic too
22:03 <+cerkit> http://www.okcupid.com/forum?tid=5833872401377902606
22:03 <+cerkit> "what do guys really want"
22:03 < eryc> "Hey guys what's going on I brought harpoons."
22:04 <+cerkit> "Men want what is best in life: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women. "
22:04 <+cerkit> ahaha
22:06 <@polerin> rhia: http://fuckyoupenguin.blogspot.com/
22:17 < eryc> this guy on the thread, cuntsmellersinc, is pure awesome
22:20 < eryc> ok thats enought
22:20 < eryc> i cant believe there are 1100 posts on this thing
22:20 <@rhia> polerin: hehehe
22:22 <@rhia> polerin: did you see the energy efficient dishwasher pic i posted earlier?
22:38 <@polerin> yes
22:39 <@polerin> s'why I posted that to you
22:42 <@sdodson> uh oh!
22:43 <@rhia> should be on cute overload  http://toby.wilcox.googlepages.com/WombatBaby.jpg
22:44 <@rhia> suicide ninja squirrel or just an opera hater?
22:44 <@rhia> http://schlerplotti.typepad.com/squirrelnews/2006/09/squirrel_breaks.html
22:46 <@dasunt> Squirrels are suicidal.
23:05 < Mercster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuR6ugy-n1Y
23:05 < Mercster> KAH huh *sniiiiiff* COUGH sssssss AHACK
23:05  * Mercster rubs his knees
23:06 < Mercster> WHO
23:07 < Mercster> NNNGGRRRRR I LOVE LIFE
23:09 < Mercster> haha
23:09 < Mercster> "that's four fuckin dollars worth"
23:10 < Mercster> "got any coke? ill suck your dick for it. i'm not gay, so its cool"
23:30 < eryc> heh
23:30 < eryc> that guy is kinda funny
23:31 < eryc> reminds me of mitch hedberg
23:32 < eryc> well, as far as the constant drug references
23:32 < eryc> he sounds like dane cook
23:33 <@sdodson> what what?!!!!!11
23:33 <@sdodson> omg last night at the bar there were kids doing the lil john thing
23:34 <@sdodson> they were 4 popped collars cool
23:34 < eryc> i hate that
23:34 <@sdodson> ya, classes are back in session
23:34 < eryc> multiple pop collars is funny to me tho
23:34 <@sdodson> which means a) young womenz for me to get drunk and hit on and b) douche bags
23:35 < eryc> my nyr is to get out more and act like a douchebag
23:35 <@sdodson> nyr?
23:35 <@sdodson> oh nm
23:35 <@sdodson> eryc: omg, come hang out at my bar
23:35 <@sdodson> eventually i'll get drunk enough and want to fight you
23:35 < eryc> haha
23:36 < eryc> ya i want to be so obnoxious that that is a real threat
23:37 < eryc> usually im just subdued and boring
23:37 < eryc> i need to get back to my grabass days
23:37 < eryc> hm <recalls getting kicked out and beat up by bouncers>
23:38 < eryc> i think there's a middle ground i can attain
23:39 <@sdodson> ya, don't go all catonic on us
23:40 <@sdodson> i don't like munin anymore
23:40 < eryc> what did catonic do?
23:40 < eryc> i looked at munin but it seemed to hacky for me
23:40 <@sdodson> ya, it's terribly inefficient
23:40 < eryc> i frown on ssh-based monitoring
23:41 < eryc> i know a lot of people that love it tho
23:41 <@sdodson> munin is web based
23:41 < eryc> a lot being like 2, which is a lot relative to the number of people i communicate with regularly
23:41 <@sdodson> agents run on nodes and put out some rrd'ish crap that gets served up via http
23:42 < eryc> hm
23:42 < eryc> well whatever
23:42 <@sdodson> head node polls that shit and puts together graphs
23:42 < eryc> their website sucks too
23:42 <@sdodson> inorite
23:42 < eryc> how does it poll tho? i thought it ran the plugins over ssh
23:43 <@sdodson> no, plugins run on the local node
23:43 <@sdodson> the head node just scans each node pulling data via http
23:43 <@sdodson> it says "Oh, I see what you did thar!" and graphs it
23:45 <@sdodson> goodnight
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