--- Log opened Mon Jan 05 00:00:55 2009
00:04 <@dasunt> http://www.mplsbikelove.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10626&view=unread#unread
00:04 <@dasunt> That's awesome.
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06:25 <@scoil> http://www.isxkcdshittytoday.com/
07:11 <@brimstone> http://www.isamericashittytoday.com/
07:13 <@scoil> heh i wonder if that says yes all the time
07:14 <@brimstone> ooooooh, the spirit is out
07:14 <@scoil> ?
07:19 <@TheLightCosine> i heard i8t was terrible
07:22 <@brimstone> yeah, 14 on rotten tomatoes, and 5.3 on imdb
07:23 <@scoil> it's not even worth to download it?
07:24 < oddball> I've been told by a number of comic geeks that it should die in a fire
07:25 <@TheLightCosine> personally i am just waiting for Watchmen
07:25 <@critch> I thought watchmen was in limbo for rights problems
07:26 <@critch> BTW, Spirit sucked, if you saw the trailer, you saw all the good parts, minus the one twist.
07:27 <@TheLightCosine> wow i hadn't heard about this
07:28 <@TheLightCosine> not hugely surprised tho
07:28 <@brimstone> currently, looks like fox has the rights to the warner bro's movie: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/25/business/media/25fox.html?_r=1
07:28 <@TheLightCosine> it's a sign of the times
07:28 <@TheLightCosine> "we can't put out a quality product, so we wiat for someone else to, then sue them."
07:29 <@critch> Well, I think it shows exactly how stupid some of the copyright portions of the culture have gotten. Warner didn't verify it had the rights properly and dumped a lot of money into it. Now it might not even make a dime off of it for paying off Fox.
07:31 <@TheLightCosine> i'm gunna be hella pissed if the movie gets axed
07:31 < oddball> Yeah, I think DC should be the one that gets hit for selling the rights twice.
07:32 <@TheLightCosine> not only is it Watchmen, but the screenplay was written by David Hayter
07:32 < oddball> oh... wait... Warner Bros. owns DC.  Forgot about that for a minute.
07:32 <@TheLightCosine> do they?
07:33 < oddball> yep... for a while if I remember correctly
07:34 < oddball> according to wikipedia, since '69
07:34 <@TheLightCosine> wow i never knew that
07:35 < oddball> hence DC comic movies always being put out by Warner Bros.  It's damn cheap for them to get the license since technically they already have it by default.
07:35 <@TheLightCosine> man that's a heavily subtended enterprise then
07:36 <@TheLightCosine> almost as bad as the record industry
07:36 <@TheLightCosine> "Dark Horse Comics, a subsidiary of DC Comics, a subsidiary of Warner Brothers Entertainment" heh
07:50 <@brimstone> buy buy buy!
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07:58 < oddball> Honestly though, part of me is glad that Fox didn't do the standard "wait for movie to be released, be big hit, hit DVDs, then sue" thing.
08:00 <@Shadow404> haha, freenode system messages
08:00 <@Shadow404> always fun to read
08:00 <@scoil> they're called globals
08:00 <@Shadow404> w/e man
08:02 <@TheLightCosine> lol
08:03 <@TheLightCosine> she ddosed the freenode blog hah
08:03 <@Shadow404> what did i say about blonde IT chicks?
08:03 <@Shadow404> there is a handful that kick ass, but the majority just make you wanna strangle them
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08:54 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:56 <@TheLightCosine> y0 d0l3
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08:56 <@TheLightCosine> how come you weren't at the meeting on friday?
08:57 <@Dolemite> I was recovering from my operation
08:57 <@TheLightCosine> ooooh right
08:57 <@Dolemite> I still haven't seen any minutes from the meeting sent out
08:57 <@Dolemite> how many people were there?
08:58 <@TheLightCosine> eh a goodly ammount
08:58 <@TheLightCosine> a bunch of people i didn't recognize showed up late
08:59 <@Dolemite> anything interesting from the meeting?
08:59 <@TheLightCosine> we had probbaly close to twenty i'd guess
09:00 <@TheLightCosine> we discussed some possible projects, posters to put up places, and going back to having talks at the meetings
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09:39 <@TheLightCosine> hrm
09:39 <@TheLightCosine> so apparently when you psexec -c it doesn't actually keep a copy of the executed program on the remote computer after execution
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09:40 <@brimstone> that's good though right?
09:40 <@TheLightCosine> if it's true, yes
09:40 <@TheLightCosine> but i dun see how it's true unless it's only writing it to memory
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09:43 <@brimstone> "keep" and "use" are two different things
09:56 <@aestetix> man
09:56 <@Evilpig> fucking cunt.  I swear to god.  the only reason this fuckin' bitch is the tech coordinator in this district is because she's married to the supt.
09:56 <@aestetix> I went to germany and all I came back with was this fucking flu
09:56  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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10:08 <@TheLightCosine> aestetix has SARS!
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10:10 <@TheLightCosine> *sigh* time to go digging throguh the RSA database schema again
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10:37 <@maco> so, any of you heading to shmoocon this year?
10:43 <@Dolemite> maco : I'm sure a few will make it
10:44 <@maco> i remember skydog and ladymerlin from last year
10:47 <@TheLightCosine> i think a few ppl at the meeting said they'd be going
10:49 <@TheLightCosine> why do i bother...why do i bother trying to generate meaningful reports out of systems that people do not follow uniform processes in
10:52 <@ladymerlin> me and sky will be there
10:54 <@TheLightCosine> she speaks!
10:54 <@TheLightCosine> i can't remember the last time i saw you say anything in channel ladymerlin
10:54 <@ladymerlin> :P
10:56 <@Shadow404> you just have to poke her on the shoulder
10:56  * Shadow404 pokes ladymerlin 
10:58 <@Evilpig> that isn't where you poke her
10:58 <@ladymerlin> whee
10:58 <@Shadow404> lawl
10:58  * ladymerlin smacks Evilpig 
10:58 <@maco> haha
10:58 <@Evilpig> if you really want her attention.  poke her in the eye
10:59 <@Shadow404> heh
10:59  * Corydon76-dig pokes EvilPig
10:59 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: man, that could of gone the wrong way
10:59  * Evilpig jabs at Corydon76-dig with something pointy and metal
10:59  * Corydon76-dig parries
10:59 <@Dolemite> Aha, so that's where my dildo collection went...
11:00 <@maco> i think Corydon76-dig was using something pointy and fleshy on Evilpig...
11:00 <@Shadow404> i knew it
11:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: you had a dildo collection?
11:00 <@Shadow404> has/had.....
11:00 <@Dolemite> had.  Evilpig is poking you with it now.
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> No fun being porked unless it's with the real thing
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Fortunately, EvilPig is ALL REAL
11:01 <@Evilpig> <-- fake
11:01 <@Evilpig> sorry bout that.  i'm a bot
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> s/bot/bottom/
11:07 <@TheLightCosine> +dweller
11:07 <@TheLightCosine> =P
11:16 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, I loaded up a carboy last night.  T-minus 59.5 days to go.
11:23 <@Shadow404> its a long wait, trust me
11:24 <@Shadow404> but worth it
11:37 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Congrats!  What size batch did you go with?
11:37 <@nachoguy> 5 Gal
11:37 <@nachoguy> well, just short of 5 gal
11:38 <@nachoguy> between adding the juice and the sugar and shaking to mix it, the bubbles made it hard to pul the last cup or so of juice in; so I just drank that
11:39 <@nachoguy> had to go with a slightly different yeast.  The guy didn't have the montrechet in stock at the time.
11:39 <@Shadow404> hope you took great care with sanitization?
11:39 <@Shadow404> cause wine yeast is very succeptible to anything
11:40 <@nachoguy> http://shop.bev-art.com/product.sc?categoryId=55&productId=301
11:40 <@nachoguy> yep, the guy had a kit that came with carboy, ale pale, sanitizer, and all sorts of doo-dads
11:44 <@Shadow404> kool, very awesome
11:45 <@Shadow404> wish i had a more local brewery shop nearby, but closest is 1hr 10min drive
11:45 <@Dolemite> yeah, I wish I had a closer one.  My closest is 4 blocks away.
11:46 <@nachoguy> this one isn't too far. iit's a hole in the wall sort of joint, but the guy that owns it is nice and seems to be knowledgable
11:46 <@nachoguy> he even cracked open a bottle of wine that he makes and sells that was a green apple + reisling mix
11:46 <@nachoguy> that was some good shit
11:48 <@Shadow404> yeah, im jealous dolemite that makes it a bunch easier
11:48 <@Shadow404> especially if you forget an ingredient/tool
11:48 <@Dolemite> well, it's 4 blocks away from the office.  20 miles from the house.
11:49 <@Shadow404> well, u can go after work still, its still 40 mins one way from atlanta
11:49 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : MmMMMmMmmm...  green apple + reisling!
11:49 <@Shadow404> roswell rd/285
11:51 <@nachoguy> I got one of these: http://www.better-bottle.com/
11:51 <@Shadow404> very nice
11:51 <@nachoguy> The shop doesn't sell the glass ones anymore, he's switched to these things
11:51 <@Shadow404> cheaper to ship i guess
11:51 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, yeah. it was awesome.
11:52 <@nachoguy> less issues with dropping one too
11:52 <@Dolemite> yeah, I'm drooling thinking about it
11:53 <@nachoguy> it's funny, the place he's at is zoned dry, so he can make booze (federal license) but can't sell it retail there.  So he sells it to the liquor store across the street
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12:26 <@Dementia> nachoguy: where's that?
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12:45 <@aestetix> I finally decided to give Vista a chance.
12:45 <@aestetix> It just took 6 minutes to boot up.
12:46 <@I-MOD> that's because you haven't tuned it yet
12:46 <@Dolemite> It's not the boot-up time that kills you, it's the login to usability time
12:49 <@aestetix> ... tuned?
12:49 <@Dolemite> disabled all the gee-gaws that are turned on by default
12:50 <@aestetix> It is seriously running a performance test? Instead of booting up my fucking os?
12:50 <@Dolemite> oh, you're still on the first boot
12:51 <@aestetix> Yep.
12:51 <@aestetix> I have literally never touched this before.
12:51 <@Dolemite> Yeah, it'll be faster to "boot up" after it goes through all that crap
12:51 <@Dolemite> It will get you to the login screen super fast
12:52 <@Dolemite> but going from there to a system that's usable still takes a LONG time
12:52 <@aestetix> I've only recently dropped my reluctance to even touch a computer that had vista on it.
12:53 <@I-MOD> aestetix, you "tune" it with a 30lb sledge and/or a wood splitter
12:55 <@aestetix> I'm thinking about tuning it by putting linux back on
12:56 <@aestetix> er, well, booting up in the partition that is linux
12:56 <@I-MOD> :D
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12:58 <@aestetix> I had a discussion with someone who works for Microsoft... over the past weekend.
12:58 <@aestetix> I basically asked point blank, if I went to work there, would they allow me to use linux as my primary system.
12:59 <@aestetix> He didn't flat out say no, but he didn't seem very happy with the question
13:00 <@Dolemite> Well, considering that rumors have Microsoft laying off 17% of their workforce, I don't think you'd want to really consider that, anwya.
13:00 <@Dolemite> er, anyway
13:02 <@aestetix> wow, Vista almost crashed when I went to disable the aero theme
13:02 <@I-MOD> nice
13:03 <@I-MOD> take it back to the w2k look?
13:03 <@brimstone> kickin' it ol' school
13:03 <@Dolemite> WFW3.11 for life!
13:04 <@I-MOD> Dolemite, taking it back?
13:05 <@Dolemite> I never left it!
13:06 <@brimstone> taking it back... with you
13:06 <@brimstone> i guess that does imply you left at some point
13:24 <@Drag0n> cp/m is for real g33ks
13:36 < Mercster> aestetix: he was probably disappointed that, considering the possibility of landing a job at the largest, most successful software company of all time, your primary concern is what crap is on your desktop
13:37 <@ShadowHntr> Drag0n: CP/M and OpenVMS FTW ;)
13:38 <@Dolemite> There is nothing 'win' about OpenVMS
13:38 <@ShadowHntr> Dolemite: spoken like a true *nix geek :)
13:40 < zadeaux> yes, they run different desktops within their organization
13:40 < zadeaux> the marketing department isn't ashamed to admit they have Macs
14:06 <@Corydon76-dig> That's because if they used Windows, the printing company would laugh at them
14:08 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL good point Corydon
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14:09 <@Dolemite> What is this P-r-i-n-t-i-n-g that you speak of?
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14:33 <@shadowmoss> ping
14:34 <@Dolemite> No route to host.
14:34 <@shadowmoss> sigh
14:34 <@Corydon76-dig> -EDSTUNREACH
14:34 <@Dolemite> er, I mean
14:34 <@Dolemite> OH HAI!
14:34 <@shadowmoss> tracert se2600
14:34 <@shadowmoss> seems quiet here
14:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Don't encourage him
14:35 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : Hi, Kettle.  Let me introduce you to Mr. Pot...
14:36 <@shadowmoss> did I miss some more drama?
14:36 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss: is the sky blue?
14:36 <@shadowmoss> good point
14:36 <@Shadow404> is my dog barking?
14:36 <@shadowmoss> can I have the 10 cent recap?
14:36  * Shadow404 stirs the pot
14:37 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: sky looks very grey to me
14:37 <@shadowmoss> lets start over...  How was everyone's holidays?
14:38 <@Shadow404> they were better wehn the future in laws left
14:38 <@shadowmoss> now now, it's too early to feel that way
14:38 <@critch> little children suck, they make me sick
14:38 <@Dolemite> shadowmoss : I voluntarily let a doctor snip my testicles.  How's that for a holiday!?
14:38 <@shadowmoss> well, from what I hear discussed here at work, some might consider that sort of thing fun
14:39 <@Shadow404> eeeeppp
14:39 <@Shadow404> those people need their noggin checked
14:39 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, so your testicles got a holiday?
14:39 <@Dolemite> Well I took my pills 1 hour before the scheduled procedure like they told me to...  problem is, the doctor decided to start 20 minutes early.
14:39 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: is it the operation that can be reversed?
14:40 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : I'm sure it could, but it's costly and painful.
14:40 <@Shadow404> or is this type the permanent version?
14:40 <@Shadow404> ah, ok
14:40 <@Dolemite> I got the triple play.  Clamp, snip and cauterize.
14:40 <@Shadow404> ouch
14:40  * Shadow404 crossed legs and winces
14:41 <@Dolemite> But on the bright side, the doctor has prescribed 20+ ejaculations over the next 8 weeks.
14:41 <@Shadow404> haha, nice
14:42 <@Dolemite> Unfortunately my wife is pregnant, so she'll just buy me a subscription to midgetpr0n.com
14:42 <@Shadow404> woot, that rocks
14:42 <@Shadow404> dont you mean orgams? i wouldnt think ejaculations would work?
14:42 <@Shadow404> *orgasms
14:43 <@Shadow404> or am i getting to graphic to ask that in here?
14:43 <@Dolemite> Sure they do.  Ejaculations are more than just sperm.  It gets mixed with fluid that doesn't come from the testicles.
14:43 <@critch> Shadow404: some of the ejac. comes from the prostate
14:43 <@Shadow404> ah, ok
14:43 <@Shadow404> that i didnt know, thought it all went down the same tube that was snipped
14:43 <@Dolemite> But it takes about 20 cycles to clear the tubes out before they can certify you as sterile
14:44 <@Shadow404> fair enough
14:44 <@nachoguy> yeah, then there's the pipeclenaers
14:44 <@critch> That is part of the reason they say you should ejac. at least 5 times a week to help cut down prostate cancer.
14:45 <@Dolemite> From wikipedia:  The sperm-filled fluid from the testes contributes about 10% to the volume of an ejaculation (in men who are not vasectomized) and does not significantly affect the appearance, taste, texture, or smell of the ejaculate.
14:45 <@nachoguy> and Independant research by Corydon says that it should be done with the help of another male
14:45 <@Shadow404> at that rate then, i should be well in the clear....lawl
14:46 <@Dolemite> Because you always have the help of another male?
14:46 <@sdodson> hi
14:47 -!- nachoguy changed the topic of #se2600 to: <nachoguy> and Independant research by Corydon says that it should be done with the help of another male|<Shadow404> at that rate then, i should be well in the clear....lawl
14:47 <@Shadow404> no, bad timing on my reply to critch's comment
14:47 <@Dolemite> sdodson : Oh hai!   die!!!
14:48 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: more properly put
14:48 <@Shadow404> sdodson: diaf
14:48 <@Shadow404> there see, much better
14:49 <@Dolemite> Nah, I don't want to limit him to one method of death
14:49 <@Shadow404> fair enough
14:49 <@sdodson> you guys are so friendly
14:53 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: speaking of which, Dagmar noted an interesting statistic at the meeting on Friday
14:53 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: He found that in the last 6 months, you haven't said a single nice thing to him... so he added you to permanent ignore
14:53  * shadowmoss hugs sdodson 
14:53  * Shadow404 kicks sdodson
14:53 <@shadowmoss> be nice to Dagmar
14:54  * Shadow404 hugs shadowmoss 
14:54 <@shadowmoss> sigh
14:54 <@Corydon76-dig> So speaking of friendly, um, you might want to work on that, too
14:54 <@shadowmoss> can't we all just get along?
14:54 <@Shadow404> i just gave you a hug?
14:54  * Shadow404 roundhouses sdodson to make sure
14:54 <@shadowmoss> I meant with sdodson
14:54 <@Shadow404> no, not really
14:54 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss: only with heavy medication
14:54  * shadowmoss pets sdodson 
14:55 <@shadowmoss> I don't know why you guys are so mean to him
14:55 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: That's awesome.
14:56 <@shadowmoss> you guys take each other too seriously
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss: that statistic makes me think our treatment of sdodson is mutual
14:57 < zadeaux> WHAT are you saying HUH HUH?
14:57 <@Dolemite> Every once in a while we slip and say something nice to each other, but we try to keep that to a minimum.
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss: no, we don't.  Nobody here REALLY protects their ass when I'm around
14:58 <@Corydon76-dig> So there's one counterindication
14:59 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: I think I'm fine with that. I see no real loss.
14:59 <@Dolemite> BAD WIKIPEDIA, BAD WIKIPEDIA
15:00 <@Dolemite> I looked up Vasectomy to cite that previous quote and then clicked on one of the External Links at the bottom
15:00  * Dolemite relives the experience but without happy pills
15:00 <@Shadow404> lawl
15:00 <@Shadow404> sux
15:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: oooo, pics?
15:00 <@Dolemite> they have a video
15:01 <@Corydon76-dig> awesome
15:01 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: stick to the midgetpr0n.com videos, damn man
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15:02 <@Dolemite> They need to update their complications section, though.  I feel like a pregnant woman because I have to pee constantly.  The bladder gets any liquid in it at all and it puts pressure against the stitches and I have to go pee or suffer the pain.
15:03 <@Shadow404> haha
15:03 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: Does it concern you?
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15:14  * critch pokes shadowmoss 
15:20 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: should it concern me?
15:31 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: I don't think so.
15:32 <@sdodson> Dagmar is mostly a cartoon character to me.
15:32 <@sdodson> He's far too _DRAMATIC_ for me to be overly concerned.
15:32 <@Dolemite> Wait a second, I think we've all overlooked the important and hard to believe issue here...
15:32 <@Dolemite> Dagmar was *at* the 2600 meeting?
15:33 <@sdodson> Dolemite: I think it's a lie, spun to make me look bad.
15:33 <@Dolemite> I'm actually inclined to side with sdodson on that one.
15:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, Dagmar was at the 2600 meeting
15:33 <@Dolemite> Well as there are no published minutes, I don't believe you.
15:34 <@Corydon76-dig> but as Dagmar, not as his alter-ego
15:35 <@sdodson> He has an alter-ego?
15:35 <@sdodson> Is that one cool?
15:35 <@Dolemite> Yes, nonannoyingDagmar
15:35 <@Dolemite> though I've never met him
15:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Alter-ego, as in, the name he goes by at work.
15:36 <@sdodson> Dolemite: aren't you his boss?
15:36 <@Dolemite> Oh, that's just a name change.  He's the same personality at work.
15:36 <@Dolemite> sdodson : That's what it says on paper.
15:37  * shadowmoss pokes critch 
15:37 <@shadowmoss> critch: when are we all getting together for dinner?
15:38 <@critch> shadowmoss: I don't kno
15:38 <@critch> or even know
15:38 <@shadowmoss> you seem to be one of the main people we can't get scheduled
15:38 <@shadowmoss> You and Wiz are just sooo busy you can't make time for the rest of us boo hoo
15:38 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss: Phreaknic director's dinner is this Saturday
15:38 <@critch> Cause no one seems to call and say, this is the day we are together.
15:38 <@shadowmoss> I wasn't at phreaknic this year
15:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Director's dinner is still open to all
15:39 <@shadowmoss> I may be crying in my beer Friday.  Big downsizing here, I may lose my job
15:39 <@Dolemite> This Saturday?
15:39 <@shadowmoss> realistically, I probably will lose my job
15:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: yes, the 10th
15:39 <@Dolemite> It was supposed to be next Saturday, I thought
15:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: check your minutes, Mr. Ex-Secretary
15:39 <@shadowmoss> this saturday may be the next saturday you were thinking of
15:40 <@Dolemite> Yeah, yeah
15:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: btw, ladymerlin needs your signature on a bank form
15:40 <@Dolemite> k
15:41 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I need your signature on this power of attorney form as well
15:42 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : Sure, whatever.
15:43 <@Shadow404> a shipment from taiwan weighing less than a pound should take how long normally?
15:43 <@Dolemite> weight doesn't really matter
15:43 <@Evilpig> just mark it live organ and it will go faster
15:43 <@Corydon76-dig> It's all about contents
15:43 <@Shadow404> ok, just regular air courier
15:44 <@Dolemite> Probably 2 weeks because it has to clear customs
15:44 <@Shadow404> its a part i need for my dirt bike
15:44 <@Shadow404> ok, thx
15:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Add another week if it's a part that could be used in a bomb
15:45 <@Shadow404> i doubt that a rubber gasket could sustain catostrophic force
15:45 <@Shadow404> long enough to be dangerous
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16:47 <@Drag0n> you have never seen a gasket fail on a hydro/pneumatic lift
16:49 <@critch> why would a pneumatic lift failure be of interest? Air is air. The hydroalic would be messy though
16:50  * Mercster shoots critch with a BB gun
16:51 <@Drag0n> hydraulics can create immense pressure, and pneumatic gas compresses a lot, when the gasket fails, the hydraulic fluid comes out under pressure and very hot
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16:53 <@Drag0n> i have seen hydraulic fluid cut through steel when it escaped from a cylinder under pressure
16:55 <@critch> hydraulics are chosen for their relative uncompressable state.  Unlikely to be compressed in a cylinder. Only liquids in a cylinder under pressure are ones that are gasses at normal pressure and temp.
17:04 <@Drag0n> heavy machinery uses both to reduce vibration and smooth transitions, these are normaly kept seperate to avoid the strawberry milkshake syndrome where movement gets erratic
17:06 <@critch> hmm, I am used to seeing hydaulics when you need very high power, but pnuematics allow for faster actuations and because it is pressurizable, you can store the energy.
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17:07 <@Drag0n> yep, you use them together for massive loads that need to move fast...say a gun tube on a howitzer
17:08 <@Drag0n> <--- used to repair m-109 and m-110 howitzers
17:09 <@Drag0n> also witnessed a catastrophic failure of an elevated tube, not pretty, especialy when someone was under said 7 1/2 ton tube
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17:12 < M0j0-j0j01> anyone know of a FPS that allows you to walk on walls and the ceiling?
17:12 < M0j0-j0j01> I recall seeing a trailer for it, but I can't remember the name of the game
17:12 <@brimstone> mirror's edge?
17:12 < M0j0-j0j01> I don't think it was mirror's edge
17:12 <@brimstone> that's the most recent with that ability
17:12 < M0j0-j0j01> brimstone: sorry
17:12 <@brimstone> there's several though that have that "ability"
17:12 <@Drag0n> oh, i remember one that had that some time ago
17:12 <@brimstone> anything else?
17:12 <@brimstone> natural selection has it
17:13 < M0j0-j0j01> brimstone: very m.c. escher looking.. but not like echochrome
17:13 < M0j0-j0j01> brimstone: like.. alien
17:13 <@Drag0n> a squareish room
17:14 < M0j0-j0j01> I think that it has a path that you go down, but the path isn't along the ground
17:14 < M0j0-j0j01> and I remember a lot of shooting
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17:16 <@m0j0-j0j0> maybe it never came out
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17:20 <@rhia> if it really bugs you, gimme an hr or so & i'll call my oldest - he'll know any/all of them
17:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> rhia: I've spent about 8 hours today trying to find it on the web :)
17:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> rhia: I just want to find out what platform it's for so I can go buy one since they aren't ever going to make Portals for Wii
17:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> (not urinals.. the game for the gaming system)
17:27 <@nachoguy> wait, portals == urinal?
17:28 <@rhia> m0j0-j0j0: only one i can think of is Prey
17:29  * rhia is not a gamer
17:29 <@I-MOD> let's fix that!
17:30 <@rhia> if Drag0n and my kids, esp the oldest, can't get me interested in gaming, seriously doubt channel will <g>
17:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> rhia: and this is why you are my hero
17:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> rhia++
17:32 < Mercster> there are lots of different types of games
17:33 <@m0j0-j0j0> Mercster: in deed
17:33 <@rhia> Mercster: oldest is a lead level designer for a gaming company - been coding and designing all kinds of games since he was 13 - quite aware that there are lots of different types of games
17:34 < Mercster> rhia: ever played anything like Myst?
17:34 <@rhia> he's been in the industry for .... almost a decade now
17:34 <@rhia> Mercster: the pretty screensaver with puzzles? yeah <g>
17:34 < Mercster> rhia: yeah :)
17:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> rhia: I'm setting up a head tracking system at home so I can start coding vr stuff again
17:35 <@brimstone> m0j0-j0j0: just need a webcam and to IR leds for that
17:35 <@brimstone> *two
17:36 <@rhia> just not into 'gaming' outside of mario goofy group stuff with family (usually play the extra car/player to fill out the screen)
17:36 <@rhia> that's about the extent of it - if no controller, np .... i'll go read something
17:36 < Mercster> rhia: yeah...i meant my comment more to these other jackholes...you probably do enjoy some games, but since they dont involve blowing someone's head off with a high powered LAZER, you arent a "gamer"
17:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> brimstone: yeah.. something like that.. was thinking about doing gloves too, but I figure that's going to have to be down the road a bit
17:37 <@rhia> now lazer tag and paint ball - those Are fun, esp against your kids <g>
17:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> brimstone: I've been out of 3d development for a while so it's going to take some time for me to get my edge back
17:37 < Mercster> heh
17:39 <@rhia> eh, not being a gamer, Drag0n doesn't have to fight me for the newest hardware - his old systems are definitely powerful enough for me
17:40 < Mercster> rhia: heck naw...i play a lot of emulators...also i think the best all around system ever was the sega dreamcast :)
17:40 < Mercster> i own 2
17:40 < Mercster> one is kinda broke tho
17:41 < Mercster> only game ive been playing lately is WoW
17:41 < Mercster> which reminds me, i need to install nexuiz for smeam-blowing-off
17:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> Mercster: no time like the present.
17:42 < Mercster> merc@quanta:~$ sudo apt-get install nexuiz nexuiz-data nexuiz-music
17:42 < Mercster> w00t
17:42 <@rhia> console gaming .... will play when my kid hands me a controller, but even katamari & bombastic couldn't hold my attention - and they're the most interesting i'd seen
17:43 <@rhia> like DDR, when the cats let me get more than one song done (they REALLY like the mat)
17:43 < Mercster> rhia: i used to own a 360, their online-only games (xbox live arcade) have a few you'd probably enjoy...more casual stuff
17:43 < Mercster> even have things like uno and poker
17:43 < Mercster> which, frankly i love playing
17:43 <@rhia> but DDR is more exercise than gaming
17:43 < Mercster> im a casual gamer myself
17:43 < Mercster> you know ive never played ddr
17:44 <@rhia> i prefer chess, mahjongg, and some card games - f2f, not electronic
17:44 < Mercster> yeah i like those too, but usually electronic versions
17:45 < Mercster> i have an account on freechess.org i should dust off sometime
17:45 < Mercster> texas holdem poker, spades, hearts
17:45 < Mercster> chess
17:45 < Mercster> all fun
17:54 <@Drag0n> yeah, its really hard to read a poker face through a screen
17:55 < Mercster> heh
17:55 < Mercster> true
17:55 < Mercster> you have to rely on timing and patterns
17:55 < Mercster> not nearly as fun, but still cool
18:01 < Mercster> ohhh filtered cigarette
18:01 < Mercster> jim lehrer, take me away
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18:04 <@sasquatc4> omg when is it permissable to shoot a neighbors dog, i have been home off and on the whole weekend, and everytime im home they have a dog barking non-stop
18:04 <@sasquatc4> come home from work and its still going
18:04 < Mercster> sasquatc4: get it to somehow attack you on your property
18:05 <@sasquatc4> like i love dogs and all, im a dog person, but jesus christ it never ends
18:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> sasquatc4: find a plant called dumbcane
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18:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> sasquatc4: they used to feed it to problematic slaves so that they couldn't talk
18:07 <@m0j0-j0j0> sasquatc4: or hang a BarkStopper out your window
18:11 < Mercster> why must ubuntu always be weird
18:11 < Mercster> wtf is "nexuiz pro mode"
18:12 < Mercster> i suck at nexuiz, so i guess i shouldnt run that
18:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Anybody know of a platform where fork() doesn't work, but vfork() does?
18:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> windows
18:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Anything else?
18:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: CP/M
18:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Wow, that's digging, I think
18:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> GEOS
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18:21 <@Corydon76-dig> So Windows is about the only one we might encounter like that, correct?
18:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> only one I know of
18:21 <@Corydon76-dig> That's very helpful
18:22 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: well, you know that I'm just a lame old man so...
18:22 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: since I've lost the 50 #'s I've dropped the fat part
18:23 < Mercster> also, why does ubuntu pull xqf in, when nexuiz has a perfectly fine internal game browser
18:23  * Mercster shakes his fist at everything debian-relatedf
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18:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> Mercster: maybe you should switch to a different distro
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18:24 < Mercster> m0j0-j0j0: maybe you should SHUT YOUR MOUTH
18:24 < Mercster> i just switched to ubuntu, noone likes a quitter
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18:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> Mercster: I've been really nice to you so far.. doesn't it seem like you should chill with being a dick already?
18:26 < Mercster> chill?
18:26 < Mercster> maybe you should chill
18:26 < Mercster> this is irc, kid
18:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> Mercster: Ubuntu isn't for everyone
18:26 < Mercster> haha, ok
18:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> Mercster: you seem to be having some difficulty with it
18:26 < Mercster> not really, im just typing into irc
18:26 < Mercster> about how ubuntu blows
18:26 < Mercster> i dont see how that's a crime
18:27 < Mercster> "chill", man
18:27 <@timoguin> trollin' ain't easy
18:28 < Mercster> my first linux kernel was 1.0.9, im not asking anyone for help. im just complaining
18:28 < Mercster> it is indeed stupid to include xqf as a dependency for nexuiz
18:28 < Mercster> you shouldnt feel so personally invested in my experience
18:29 < Mercster> also, when i type inflammatory things in all caps like SHUT YOUR MOUTH, you can assume im being humorous, not serious
18:29 < Mercster> if i ever _do_ need to take you down a peg, it'll be done like this
18:30 < Mercster> in lowercase with logic
18:30 < Mercster> here, let me show you an example from another channel that was created around the time you were weaned from mom
18:30 < Mercster> 19:06 < trockij> i like how you can make sticks out of fish
18:30 < Mercster> 19:11 < Merc> i like how you SHUTTUP
18:30 < Mercster> 19:15 < trockij> you know damn right
18:31 < Mercster> good example of "chilling"
18:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> well folks.. I guess I'm headed out... might pop back on when I get home
18:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> ttys
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18:31 < Mercster> maybe he chills best at home
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18:55 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: ping
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19:07 < Mercster> oh jeez, tonight's new 'intervention' is about a fat dude
19:07 < Mercster> thats no fun
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19:24 <@sdodson> Mercster: AHW SH IT YOU BETTER NOT SHOW UP AT MY PLACE ATLKING ABOUT AN INTERVENTION!
19:32 < Mercster> you need help :(
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19:34 <@sdodson> Mercster: Why?
19:34 <@sdodson> Mercster: Did you hearrrrrrrrrrr? dagmar thinks i'm a meany
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19:39 < Mercster> sdodson: im pretty sure Dagmar is retarded
19:40 < AstralSin> this is the most disgusting beer i've ever tasted
19:40 < AstralSin> NEVER buy The Beast by Avery Brewing company
19:41 < AstralSin> tastes like Robitussin
19:41 <@sdodson> AstralSin: Where ya been?
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19:47 < AstralSin> sdodson: man, i've been on a bender for the last 4 days
19:47 < AstralSin> 5 days
19:47 < AstralSin> something like that
19:50 < AstralSin> that and playing games, i got this new gaming rig and i've been smashin it up
19:50 < AstralSin> left 4 dead is the mother fuckin shit!
19:50 <@sdodson> ya i hear it's fun
19:56 < dasunt> AstralSin: My bender is longer.
19:57 < Mercster> sonofa
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19:59 <@sdodson> Man, I wish I knew what made him leave. I'd be sure to do it again and again!
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20:22 < Mercster> guh
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20:59 < zadeaux> any good deals on blue-ray players yet? trying to find one.. or just might get a PS3
21:00 <@brimstone> from what i read, if you EVER want to play ps3 games, get the ps3
21:00 <@brimstone> if you're full on, "no games" like rhia, then get the sony blue-ray player
21:01 < Mercster> ps3 sucks anyway, it's tanking
21:01 < Mercster> get it for the cheap blu-ray player if anything
21:01 < Mercster> if it is indeed a cheap blu-ray player anymore
21:01 < zadeaux> $300ish on ebay
21:01 < zadeaux> for PS3
21:02 <@Drag0n> i saw the blueray rom drives for pc at 150 and the burners at 399 at fry's
21:03 <@brimstone> yeah, you could finally build that htpc you've always wanted :P
21:04 < zadeaux> never been a big fan of htpc
21:04 < zadeaux> like to keep em seperated..
21:05 < zadeaux> one PC is enough to dork with at home
21:06 < Mercster> yeah
21:06 < Mercster> the more things you can remove from the PC environment, the better
21:08 < Mercster> gaming, media
21:08 < Mercster> course its hard to get a civilization IV experience on console
21:09 < zadeaux> when we going to get a new x-wing vs. tiefighter
21:09 < zadeaux> my joystick is collecting dust
21:13 < Mercster> heh
21:13 < Mercster> i remember playing one of those on my old 486
21:13 < Mercster> great fun
21:14 <@maco> rhia: does "no games" mean not even solitaire? what about solitaire with real cards not digital ones? or rummy 500 in person?
21:14 < Mercster> zadeaux: there's always dosbox...
21:14 < Mercster> maco: we already covered this a few hours ago...rhia plays games but is not a "gamer" cuz she doesnt like twitch gaming
21:14 <@maco> what's twitch gaming
21:14 < Mercster> fast reflexes
21:14 <@maco> oh
21:14 < zadeaux> dosbox.. hmm
21:15 < Mercster> zadeaux: great for some of those old games
21:15 <@maco> is Frets on Fire a twitch game?
21:15 < Mercster> even plays ultima 7! (notoriously difficult to run on an emulator)
21:15 < zadeaux> that might be cool for neverhood
21:15 < zadeaux> loved neverhood
21:16 < zadeaux> there still shards for ultima online?
21:16 < Mercster> dont remember that one
21:16 < Mercster> UO? im pretty sure it's still up
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21:17 < Mercster> probably runs in wine well
21:17 < zadeaux> neverhood was the claymation game in 96'
21:17 < zadeaux> by dreamworks.. was actually done as stop motion animation
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21:18 <@brimstone> what do people here use for a firebox?
21:19 <@brimstone> something with a good key/lock and fire/water proof?
21:22 < Mercster> i have nothing to put into a firebox
21:24 < Mercster> except perhaps a slightly smaller firebox
21:24 < zadeaux> safe deposit boxes in a real vault... thats what i use
21:25 <@brimstone> i'd like something that i could keep mounted via usb as well
21:25 <@brimstone> like a magnetic usb connection on the side or something
21:25 < Mercster> wat
21:25 < zadeaux> thats dooable
21:26 < zadeaux> new product.. bam!
21:26 <@brimstone> or even, just a super small box that was wifi attached
21:26 <@brimstone> but i dunno how much wifi could get through a fire/water proof box
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21:27 <@brimstone> sentrysafe seems to have something, but i dunno about it
21:28 <@Drag0n> there is supposed to be a usb drive that is fire rated
21:28 < zadeaux> i'm too paranoid not to have off-site stuff even personally
21:28 <@Drag0n> http://www.hddfiresafe.com/iosafe/usb-raid-external-hard-drive.htm
21:29 <@maco> firebox?
21:30 <@maco> i barely even do backups, let alone fireproof ones
21:30 <@brimstone> i've got automatic offsite backups to secure boxes, that's not difficult
21:30 < Mercster> when "firebox" and "usb" were mentioned in the same sentence, i fell silent
21:30 < zadeaux> thats a little much
21:30 <@brimstone> little openvpn and explaining to the parents why that machine is on, it's ok
21:31 <@brimstone> but i need a way to store documents too
21:32 < zadeaux> a bank
21:32 < zadeaux> and a copy machine
21:35 <@brimstone> yeah, i'm thinking just a regular firebox for documents and keep up the off-site backups
21:37 < zadeaux> http://www.sentrysafe.com/products/productDetail.aspx?s=284&WT.si_n=ShoppingCart&WT.si_p=CartView
21:37 <@brimstone> yeah, i've seen those recently zadeaux
21:37 <@Drag0n> nice, http://www.hddfiresafe.com/iosafe/r4-readynas-backup-server.htm
21:38 < zadeaux> it's only 1/2 hour rated though
21:44 <@sdodson> stash a harddrive in a safe deposit box?
21:44 <@sdodson> Or keep one in your office at work?
21:45 <@sdodson> Trade drives with a friend.
21:46 < zadeaux> a client i work with outside of DC uses backup to hard drive in a JBOD array..
21:46 < zadeaux> horrible back-up strategy.. they use a pelican case to transport.. they've only recovered day 70% of the time because the drives fail
21:48 <@sdodson> i'd say drives are probably as reliable as tape
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22:01 < Mercster> yeah drives are sane
22:01 < Mercster> for a household or whatever
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22:29 < Mercster> huh, G1 commercial
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23:12 <@sdodson> Breaking News: Steve Jobs actually a woman!
23:13 < dasunt> How will this affect the price of next gen iPhones?
23:13 <@Drag0n> no change, but they will come with a matching pouch
23:21 <@sdodson> It's not a "pouch" it's a "cache" or a "clutch" geeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
23:32 < dasunt> iCache.
23:41 < Mercster> iRack
23:41 < dasunt> iCrack.
23:41 < Mercster> "The iRack doesnt look very stable..."
23:42 < Mercster> "NO!  We must keep putting things into the iRack!"
23:42 <@ShadowHntr> www.bigbuckbunny.org
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23:43 < Mercster> you guys prolly missed that one
23:43 < Mercster> apple iRack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE
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