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00:20 <@dasunt> I'm killing you all.
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04:20  * Catonic yawns
04:26 < TheLightCosine> mornin catonic
04:28 <@Catonic> mornin' lamp
04:29 < TheLightCosine> lamp?
04:39 <@Catonic> light
04:39 <@Catonic> I could have said photon and been just as obtuse
04:41 < TheLightCosine> "morning -0.836257521" would have been more clever i think =P
04:42 <@Catonic> my first thought was fleshlight. But that seemed too out there.
04:45  * Catonic cleans up the popcorn explosion
04:57 < TheLightCosine> everything goes back to that with you
04:57 <@Catonic> not everything
04:57 <@Catonic> sometimes sleep deprivation makes other things pop out
04:58 <@Catonic> like my kickstank comment yesterday
05:05 <@Catonic> anyone had kobe beef?
05:06 <@Catonic> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2008/9/28/1315/92538
05:20 < TheLightCosine> man, i've been on a Dead Kennedy's kick ever since you mentioned holliday in cambodia yesterday heh. it's a shame Jello Biafra was such a hypocritcal peice of shit
05:30 <@Catonic> howq's that?
05:30 <@Catonic> I've seen him twice at HOPE
05:31 < TheLightCosine> he was always condemning the "greedy mainstream sellouts"
05:31 < TheLightCosine> but when he got the chance he stole almsot all the money from his bandmates
05:32 <@Catonic> publishing on alternative tentacles?
05:33 < TheLightCosine> he held all the moeny/royalties from the DKs and refused to give any of it to the rest of the former band
05:34 <@Catonic> suck
05:34 < TheLightCosine> yeah
05:34 <@Catonic> but im sure he had addctions to feed
05:34 < Mercster> if you dont sellout, yer a sellout
05:34 < TheLightCosine> i mean i appreciate what the guy does, but it seems the people who yell the loudest are often the guiltiest
05:37 < TheLightCosine> I mean in truth, punk idealism failed a long time ago, but i think there are still some people out there udner the banner of punk that help keep the powermongers on their toes a bit
05:37 < Mercster> oh ya?
05:37 < Mercster> my dick smells
05:43 < Mercster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgvv-Hj62H0
05:43 < Mercster> you tha muthafuckin' DEVIL
05:44 < Mercster> they try ta trip a nigga up, cuz i aint followin' whitey's rulez, you know
05:44 < Mercster> are ya laughin, BIATCH
05:45 < Mercster> i come in tha name of jesus...REPEAT IT BITCH
05:48 < Mercster> you caint see me, house niggaz
05:52 < Mercster> haha
05:52 < Mercster> you fuckin nincom-fuckin-poop
05:53 < Mercster> jesus is peace, fuck what you talkin 'bout
06:32 <@Catonic> ghetto preacher
06:33 <@Catonic> save your sins before you bust a cap in whitey's ass
06:38 <@Shadow404> Mercster: thats an awesome youtube
06:39 < Mercster> Shadow404: yea
06:39 < Mercster> all-time classic
06:42 <@Shadow404> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shf8Z5P04kg
06:43 <@Shadow404> this is an awesome 3 year old
06:43 <@Shadow404> ohhhhhh
06:43 <@timoguin> that's so old
06:43 <@timoguin> great video though
06:43 <@Catonic> lol
06:44 <@Catonic> don't let your TV raise your kids.
06:44 < TheLightCosine> really
06:44 <@Catonic> Let the safe professionals at your local tax-payer supported daycare institution do that for you.
06:45 <@timoguin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8aprCNnecU
06:46 <@Shadow404> Catonic: that has to be the siblings teaching the baby bad words
06:46 <@Catonic> ever notice how all the talking three year olds on youtube have articulate english?
06:47 <@Shadow404> heh
06:47 <@Shadow404> but only small phrases
06:47 <@Shadow404> man, so dont want to be here, sipping my coke (hate coffee), and pondering about going down to the liquor store and spiking it with some bourbon
07:17 <@Catonic> http://jwz.livejournal.com/977349.html <- I am so fucking scared.
07:17 <@Catonic> QUIT MAKING TECHNOLOGIES TO MAKE THE MATRIX REAL!
07:19 <@Shadow404> thats pretty cool
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07:21 <@Catonic> In 2009, I'm giving up computers to follow my dream to be a world-class bassist for a rock band.
07:24 < TheLightCosine> so you'll be sitting in your living room playing rock Band all year? =P
07:24 <@Catonic> No, I really am a musician, like Notlarry.
07:24 < TheLightCosine> heh, uhun suuuure
07:27 <@Catonic> craziest thing of all... is some people here actually believe I've had sex.
07:28 < TheLightCosine> silly people =P
07:32 <@sdodson> hah, i knew that shit was a lie!
07:34 < TheLightCosine> damnit microsoft needs to rename SMS so that google stops giving me stuff about programmaticaly sending text messages
07:35 <@sdodson> spell it out
07:35 <@sdodson> perhaps upgrade to MOM and you'll have better google search results!
07:36 < TheLightCosine> yes i can jsut imagine the search results for MOM =P
07:42 <@sdodson> News Flash: Shadow 404 just asked about palindrome, again.
07:43 <@Shadow404> lawl, i said fat bitch, but i wasnt talking about her sdodson
07:43 <@Shadow404> news flash, sdodson needs to get his facts straight
07:43 <@sdodson> yaright keep telling yourself that and we'll believe you don't think about her non stop
07:43 <@Shadow404> like i think abotu your mom?
07:43 <@sdodson> that's fine
07:44 <@Shadow404> mmmm, slapped her ass a long time last night, she loves those spankings
07:44 <@Shadow404> and then there is that odd cling film fetish she has, not really into that, but i let her suffocate herself on my cock instead
07:45 <@Catonic> 38 degrees? fuck me...
07:46 <@Catonic> some impulses should not be acted out.
07:47 <@Shadow404> dude, sdodson's mom is a fucking minx man
07:47 <@Shadow404> i cant help it
07:47 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, you should really cut down the length of those spankings, the chapping and swelling is bad for business
07:47 <@Catonic> for instance...
07:48 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: Does fetching involve object insertion, removal, or both?
07:48 <@Shadow404> I-MOD: hey, that was all hand, untill she asked for the leather paddle, that was ll her doing
08:06 <@Catonic_lp> lolz
08:31 <@Dolemite> y
08:31 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:39 < TheLightCosine> morning dole
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08:48 < TheLightCosine> dude i do not get why people like Hyena
08:48 <@brimstone> the password brute-forcer?
08:48 < TheLightCosine> all it is is the Computer Management and Users and Computers MMCs buttfucked together in a shitty VB6 app
08:49 < TheLightCosine> no the "systems management console"
09:02 <@brimstone> what's a good windows pe2 disassembler for linux?
09:02 <@brimstone> i have a pe32 executable, i want to disassemble, decompile it in linux
09:06 < TheLightCosine> pe32?
09:09 <@brimstone> file says it's a "PE32 executable for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit"
09:13 < TheLightCosine> any idea what language it was done in?
09:14 <@brimstone> nope
09:14 <@brimstone> but it's very small
09:14 <@brimstone> only 29K
09:14 < TheLightCosine> not sure you can decompile it without knowing the original language
09:14 < TheLightCosine> pretty sure all decompilers are languge specific
09:15  * brimstone tries olly
09:19 <@Corydon76-dig> [07:48:03] <Catonic> Corydon76-dig: Does fetching involve object insertion, removal, or both?
09:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: Fetching involves a pail, a well, and water.
09:20 <@brimstone> wow, just strings'ing the executable is fun
09:22 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: if it was dynamically linked, the library might give you that information
09:22 <@I-MOD> brimstone, have you tried boomerang?
09:23 < TheLightCosine> ah, real programmers speak on the subject heh
09:23 <@Corydon76-dig> but even 'strings' can give you a hint as to whether the language was C or a C-derivative
09:23 <@I-MOD> yeah
09:24 <@Corydon76-dig> C tends to use bareword function names as symbol names.
09:24 <@Corydon76-dig> C++ and C# add random garbage (but still ASCII) onto the end of symbol names
09:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Given the size, it's also definitely not compiled Perl
09:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Not sure about the internals of compiled VB
09:27 <@brimstone> i can try boomerang in a bit here
09:30 <@I-MOD> looks like boomerang has issues with statically compiled libs
09:33 <@brimstone> boomerang runs for a bit, then crashes :/
09:34 <@sdodson> I feel like shit. :(
09:34  * I-MOD flushes sdodson 
09:38 <@I-MOD> http://sourceforge.net/projects/desquirr/
09:40 <@sdodson> brimstone: Look at wine? I'm sure they have tools for that
09:40 <@brimstone> nah, this has bored me now
09:41 <@sdodson> brimstone: on to tits?!
09:42 <@brimstone> as soon as they land
09:52 <@nachoguy> uge tracts of land?
09:52 <@nachoguy> eer huge
09:55 <@brimstone> "huge"
09:58 <@Catonic_lp> Leave it to me to misspell feltch.
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10:12 < TheLightCosine> there is something wrong with corporate it...well okay duh there's a lot wrong with corporate it
10:13 < TheLightCosine> but jesus i write a few apps here and there, some ADSI scripts to get some AD work done, and now everyone is like "oh, I thoguht you wanted to be a developer"
10:14 < TheLightCosine> i mean do you guys who are actually developers get the opposite side of this where everyone thinks anyone who can throw together a program must be a dev?
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10:17 <@M0j0-j0j0> yo yo
10:20 <@M0j0-j0j0> anyone know how to make the moto ve240 show up in ubuntu so that I can use it to connect to the googlewebs with?
10:21 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: we get people who think they've written an Excel macro that now, they are a master programmer
10:21 < TheLightCosine> lol
10:23 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: I think we all get them
10:23 < TheLightCosine> i tried wrting some office macros the other day i got frustrated as hell with it because the functionality was so limited and i wasn't sure how the syntax worked exactly i was expecting it to be just like regular vb.net programming
10:23 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: we make them take a test
10:23 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: yes, but it's usually more painful to the developers to have to deal with those people
10:25 < TheLightCosine> i dunno it's just mind boggling to me, i write a few simple apps, then next thing i know i get pushed in front of one of our actual devs , i was so embarassed
10:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> developers aren't any better than anyone else
10:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> it's just knowing the lingo
10:27 < TheLightCosine> well all i know about programming is jsut peiced together from trial and error,experimenting, and reading a few books
10:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> yeah, but that's just about everyone
10:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> I mean,,
10:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> some of us know the underthe hood stuff
10:29 <@M0j0-j0j0> but most developers these days (IMHO) don't really understand what they are doing.. they just know that if they bang on these keys in this order it does what I want
10:29 < TheLightCosine> DWIM =P
10:29 < TheLightCosine> i really didn't get any sort of coding legs udner me till i sat down and learned Perl
10:29 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: those aren't really developers, then
10:30 < TheLightCosine> exactly, and neither am I! lol
10:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: I like perl.
10:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: they aren't software engineers.. they're programmers
10:31 < TheLightCosine> I love perl
10:31 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: HIGH FIVE!
10:31 < TheLightCosine> it was a great language to elarn the logic of programming without getting as tripped up by strange syntax
10:31 <@sdodson> they're code monkeys
10:32 <@sdodson> I hear you can do mad leet shit in excel
10:32 < TheLightCosine> i originally took a class on C++ in high school, and got lost just after depth-first searching
10:33 <@sdodson> I do breast first searching.
10:33 < TheLightCosine> i wrote my first program that actually did anything worthwhile at Embarq after learning perl. I wrote a program to monitor delivery times across our SMTP relays, and even that was jsut two PL files and a mysql database
10:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> perl6
10:35 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: what you doing for new years?
10:35 < TheLightCosine> hell i'm planning on gonig back to college and finishing my degree in CS just so i can stop feeling like i'm missing half the fundamentals
10:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I'm on pager :(
10:35 <@Catonic_lp> TheLightCosine: lmfao, you are a hoot.
10:35 < TheLightCosine> catonic ?
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10:36 < TheLightCosine> why is that funny?
10:36 <@sdodson> It's like an oxymoron.
10:36 <@Evilpig> had a guy just come back into my shop cause his cd drive wasn't working.  his sata cable was unplugged
10:36 <@Dolemite> because of your syntactical error (elarn != learn)
10:36 < TheLightCosine> lol
10:36 <@sdodson> bah sata optical drives
10:36 < TheLightCosine> oh
10:36 < TheLightCosine> heh
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10:37 < TheLightCosine> well see the perl itneperter would have figured out what i meant by context and so can you ;)
10:37 <@Catonic_lp> It's funny because perl regex looks like the lost sign of life that SETI is trying to find.
10:37 < TheLightCosine> opposed to microsoft regex which looks like it was constructed with legos?
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10:38 <@Catonic_lp> I didn't realize where going java in 1998 changed the world of computing
10:38 <@Catonic_lp> there are hundreds of jobs in california right now for java developers.
10:39 <@sdodson> java is the language dujour of enterprise applications
10:39 <@notlarry> dosn't vlc play as the background on windows?
10:39 <@Catonic_lp> it's the rise of the worst scum as the common denominator. It's java -- it runs slow on everything.
10:39 <@I-MOD> notlarry, yes, it's possible
10:39 <@sdodson> I grow tired of asshats complaining about java being slow.
10:39 <@I-MOD> should be a right click option, but that option doesn't exist for linux
10:39 < TheLightCosine> heh
10:39 <@notlarry> i thought so, I'm trying to find that option in the linux version and don't see it
10:39 <@I-MOD> yeah
10:39 < TheLightCosine> slow or not, java's syntax is the most painful thing i've ever seen
10:39 <@I-MOD> it's a bitch
10:39 <@notlarry> ah, therin lies my answer
10:39 <@sdodson> notlarry: I think it's called desktop mode or something.
10:40 <@Catonic_lp> aye.
10:40 <@Catonic_lp> notlarry: email me what you want to play and I'll study it.
10:40 <@Catonic_lp> I have a drum machine.
10:40 <@Dolemite> Java is a heavy mover.  It's just like trying to go from BHM to BNA in an 18 wheeler - makes sense if you have 6 tons of cargo, but if you just want to get there fast and with no luggage, it's a bad choice.
10:40 <@I-MOD> for some reason, they decided they weren't going to allow drawing to the root window on linux in vlc
10:41 <@notlarry> my background is the root window?
10:41 <@sdodson> yes
10:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> root
10:41 <@I-MOD> notlarry, i have seen a couple patches to allow it, though
10:41 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: so that means nothing?
10:41 <@I-MOD> they were complicated and are now broken
10:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: pretty much... One member of my team wants me to come to hang out with him on his b-day which is the 31st.. but I don't know if I'm going to do it
10:43 <@Dolemite> I'm getting the "No More Kids" operation for New Year's
10:43 <@Dolemite> 8 AM tomorrow morning, clamp, snip and cauterize.  w00t.
10:43 <@notlarry> shit.  So I pulled the 250g hd from my webserver cause, well cause I wanted it in my machine, and now my webserver hangs running rc.local scripts
10:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: and I can work on pages from anywhere.. generally I just sit at home and play GH
10:44 <@remoford> Dolemite: let us know how that works out
10:44 <@nachoguy> Dolemeite, quick, fly to Vegas, there's one day left!
10:44 <@Catonic_lp> no.. dear god no
10:44 <@notlarry> It is my 16th wedding aniversery today.  Cards of condolence are welcome.  any ecards send to my wife
10:44 <@Catonic_lp> notlarry: which one of the notkids turned 17?
10:44 <@notlarry> nachoguy: they are just cutting his balls off, not his penis.  his wife took them already so you know...
10:45 <@Catonic_lp> great, so now waiting for food, postcon, we get to hear skydog, dc0de and dolemite swap nutcut stories.
10:45 <@notlarry> Catonic_lp: The one you've been dating in bham, but I got news for you, she just SAYS she's a girl...
10:45 <@nachoguy> notlarry, no, you don't understand.  Vegas give Dolemite super impregnation powers.
10:45 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: bravo for making the move
10:45 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: might have something materializing at my place.
10:46 <@Catonic_lp> notlarry: oh, you dated her too?
10:46 <@notlarry> I just like to tell my wifes I'm sterile, too much radiation as a child.
10:46 <@notlarry> Catonic_lp: "dated" is not the word we use here in Kentucky, but yeah, in alabama it was called dating.
10:46 <@nachoguy> "wifes"?  you didn't tell me you were mormon
10:46 <@sdodson> My dad got all angry and argued that laptops cause sterlization due to radiation not temperature.
10:47 <@I-MOD> lol
10:47 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: let me know.. I can't make any promises..but I'll do what I can to make an appearance.
10:47 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Yeah, I'm staying away from Vegas until I get confirmation that I'm shooting blanks
10:47 <@sdodson> "They're meant to be hot, 98.6 like your body"
10:47 <@sdodson> I've given up arguing with my dad, he's absolutely impossible to deal with when he's factually wrong.
10:47 <@notlarry> Dolemite: that isn't something we are goning to have to check at the office is it?
10:48 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, you could double impregnate your wife.  get kids going on a 4 month rotation =>
10:48 <@notlarry> sdodson: wonder where he gets that from
10:48 <@Dolemite> notlarry : It's a feature of the new firmware on the tester that we got back in today.
10:48 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Fortunately that's not possible.  heh.
10:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> nachoguy: I don't think you can be doing the deed while she's giving birth
10:49 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, you, in Vegas, anything is possible
10:49 <@notlarry> nachoguy: like Apfelwein?
10:49 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : 'cept that if I were to go to Vegas, she'd be half a continent away...    somebody has to babysit, ya know ;)
10:49 <@Catonic_lp> reminds me, I need to start saving now for hookers and blow.
10:49 <@notlarry> Dolemite: it came back?
10:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> nachoguy: unless you roll that way.. but I don't know of anybody who wants to welcome their child into the world by squirting it in the eye
10:50 <@Dolemite> notlarry : Yeah, it arrived this morning.  Has new firmware.
10:50 <@notlarry> Dolemite: so, does the new firmware not have the feature that faints every time Dagmar tries to use it?:)
10:50 <@nachoguy> m0j0-j0j0, isn't that how the catholic preists perform baptism?
10:51 <@Dolemite> I'm going to put a label on it saying that it is for [NOC - Dagmar] use only
10:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> nachoguy: only for boys
10:51 <@nachoguy> notlarry, I'm going to start making apfelwein.
10:51 <@nachoguy> I'm picking up equipment Saturday
10:51 <@notlarry> nachoguy: my Apfelwein gear is for sale
10:51 <@notlarry> you could just drive down and get it
10:52 <@notlarry> hell I might have someone driving up there soon
10:52 <@nachoguy> it's probably cheaper for me to buy it here
10:52 <@Dolemite> notlarry : You need to just put it in storage for 6 months.  I'm telling you that the notkids are just pulling your chain.
10:52 <@Dolemite> But if you insist on selling it, I may buy one of the carboys
10:53 <@notlarry> nah, as long as they don't drink or do drugs, I don't drink.
10:53 <@Dolemite> Oh, so you'll need it in 30 days
10:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: or new years eve
10:53 <@Dolemite> Or is it, "As long as I don't catch you drinking or doing drugs..."
10:54 <@notlarry> no, I'm doing regular blood and urine tests
10:55 <@notlarry> Hell, when they were little kids I traded internet to the vet so I could have the rfid chips implanted behind their ears.  Think I'm not going to be watching their fluids for drug or alcohol use?
10:56 <@Dolemite> Note to self : Sharpies aren't the thing to worry about when passing out at PN
10:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: you're also worried about horny NotKids?
10:57 <@notlarry> :)
10:57 <@Dolemite> no, about services that notlarry trades with his vet
10:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: someone passed out a PN and nobody would draw on the dood...
10:58 <@Dolemite> Did he pass out in a public area?
10:58 <@notlarry> See, I had that whole clip clip thing done in office for doing a website.
10:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: I just don't get it.. it's like this "maturity" thing
10:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: yeah
10:58 <@Dolemite> You don't Sharpie someone that passed out in their own room, that's crossing the line.
10:58 <@Dolemite> Hrmm, bunch o' pussies
10:58 <@notlarry> M0j0-j0j0: Should have called me, Haydeez wants to practice his prison tat skillz
10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> notlarry: I can never seem to associate their names with faces.  Which one is Haydeez?
10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> the younger one?
11:00 <@notlarry> Corydon76-dig: the one with no pimples on his back
11:00 <@notlarry> I mean the younger one, yes:)
11:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> the other one is IceW34sel?
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11:01 < Synx_hm> Sup my peeps
11:01 <@scoil> why you in phx
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Morning, Synx
11:01 < Synx_hm> visiting afmily
11:01 <@notlarry> so, yesterday I woke up to see evilpig in his underwear in my wife's bedroom.
11:01 < Synx_hm> family
11:01 <@notlarry> and he had brought two other guys with him
11:02 <@scoil> notlarry, phone location
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> notlarry: are you sure you were awake?
11:02 < Synx_hm> anyone have a jawbone?
11:02 <@notlarry> and they were wearing cable man uniforms.  I so thought I was watching porn.
11:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: yeah
11:03 < Synx_hm> M0j0-j0j0: how you like it?  i hate the look of any bluetooth and specifically the jawbone but i hear its a good piece
11:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: sound quality is really good.. doesn't sound like you're in a wind tunnel
11:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: the Jawbone2 is a lot smaller
11:04 < Synx_hm> nice my car is loud as hell so its almost impossible for me to use the motorola ive got now
11:04 < Synx_hm> M0j0-j0j0: ya the 2 is what i was looking at
11:04 < Synx_hm> i just hate that people wear this things as a fassion statement now
11:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> I have a 1.. but they say the 2 is better
11:04 < Synx_hm> i was at a f'ing concert the other night and the guy behind me had his flashing bluetooth on the entire show
11:04 < Synx_hm> REALLY ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE A FUCKING CALL HERE!?!?
11:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: that's the other thing that is kinda nice about the jawbone
11:05 < Synx_hm> it doesn't flash
11:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: my moto had a bright blinking blue light
11:05 < Synx_hm> :)
11:05 < Synx_hm> ya as does mine
11:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: the jawbone is really muted
11:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: and I think it only flashes when it's doing something
11:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: but I could be wrong about that
11:06 < Synx_hm> cool
11:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: what you doing for lunch?
11:07 < Synx_hm> oh my my grandma just farted
11:07 < Synx_hm> yikes
11:07 < Synx_hm> oh man thats bad
11:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> Synx_hm: did she say 'excuse me'?
11:08 < Synx_hm> nope
11:08 < Synx_hm> i dont even think she knew
11:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> someone hasn't been reading Ms. Manners
11:09 <@Dolemite> notlarry : So you have cable now?  See, the boys will forget all about why Daddy drinks.
11:09 <@Evilpig> haha
11:09 < Synx_hm> man this sucks, i keep getting people telling me that my touchpad doesn't support twofinger scroll and they allready have working drivers (open source) for windows
11:09 < Synx_hm> wtf
11:10 <@Catonic_lp> Synx_hm: if you're bootlegging the concert, the bluetooth makes sense
11:10 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I don't think the cable installers will ever forget that install
11:10 <@Evilpig> god knows I'm trying to
11:10 <@Dolemite> rofl
11:10 <@Catonic_lp> recording devices not permitted, but they permit cell phones... what if I'm on it all night, in the pit, dialed into my voicemail.
11:10 < Synx_hm> Catonic_lp: ya if you wana listen to the concert like your sitting in a tin can under the stage
11:10 < Synx_hm> hehe
11:10 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : It's really only a bad thing if notlarry was in a state of undress at the time, too.
11:10 <@Catonic_lp> something > nothing
11:10 < Synx_hm> true dat
11:10 < Synx_hm> i wanted the punch the guy in the face
11:11 < Synx_hm> i keept giving him the stink eye
11:11 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: why must you remind me?!?!
11:11 <@notlarry> Dolemite: nekid, totally nekid
11:11 <@notlarry> Dolemite: I thought it was going to turn into group sex.
11:11 <@Dolemite> See, DEFCON needs to be in Feb/Mar timeframe...   Vegas isn't so fucking hot then and Southwest has a half price fare sale for Jan 13-Mar 11 today and tomorrow.
11:12 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : So when do the bandages come off of your eyes?  Can you still raid without vision?
11:13 <@Evilpig> they can't bandage the brain
11:13 <@Catonic_lp> goddamn, I love women.
11:13 <@Dolemite> just bleach it
11:13 <@notlarry> Dolemite: does your ubuntu install ever grey out a window, like when an instance/city is loading in wow it greys out.
11:13 <@nachoguy> evilpig, sure they can.  you dice up bandaids and do lines until you feel better.
11:13 <@Dolemite> Catonic_lp : Then stop being so scared of them.
11:14 <@Dolemite> notlarry : Yes, if a window gets in a wait state, it will grey out until it returns
11:14 <@notlarry> damn first time I've seen that.
11:15 <@notlarry> guess I got to put this hd back in my webserver and get it running
11:15 <@Evilpig> what is the fat to ntfs command?  is it fat2ntfs ?
11:17 <@Dolemite> uh, in Win-derrs?
11:17 <@Evilpig> yes
11:18 <@M0j0-j0j0> notlarry: sounds like a video driver thing to me
11:19 < TheLightCosine> yeah, that grey out effect is really annoying with nessus
11:19 < TheLightCosine> cus it stis there for like 5 minutes connecting
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11:20 <@M0j0-j0j0> oh.. 5 minutes doesn't sound like a video driver
11:20 <@Dolemite> good save there, m0j0
11:25 <@notlarry> strange I've never seen it before.
11:25 <@Evilpig> convert b: /fs:ntfs\
11:25 <@Evilpig> I knew there was an easy way
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11:28 < TheLightCosine> er wb moj0
11:29 < M0j0-j0j01> sorry bout that... I'm upgrading my distro and sometime odd things happen while that's going on
11:31 <@notlarry> Evilpig: Is there a server I can put my website(s) on?
11:31 <@notlarry> ARRRRG  damn blog not working
11:32 <@Dolemite> seems to be working, I see your post from 11:29 AM
11:33 <@notlarry> ah, the https part takes me to a different server
11:33 <@Dolemite> yeah, if you use https you have to add ~notlarry
11:33 <@notlarry> shot, it posts it and then says it didn't
11:35 <@notlarry> weird.
11:36 <@notlarry> is there an electronics hobby shop of sorts in Nville?  like radio shack was 30 years ago?
11:38 < M0j0-j0j01> last place I saw that was like that was in FL
11:38 < M0j0-j0j01> have to order parts online these days
11:39 < M0j0-j0j01> o2l
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11:42 <@notlarry> Dolemite: what is the site we looked at that sells the arduino and the other kits for it?
11:42 <@Dolemite> sparkfun.com
11:42 <@notlarry> Dolemite: thanks
11:45 <@nachoguy> also nkcelectronics, ladyada, and moderndevice
11:46 <@notlarry> anyone know of a job in it that has or will soon open up?  My wife has an aquaintence in Tampa looking for something.
11:47 <@notlarry> wtf?  My job is listed on the universitys job line!?!
11:48 <@remoford> owned
11:49 <@notlarry> latrz
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11:59 < Synx_hm> Anyone have a good read link on howto setup and how having multi lan links up at once works.  Ie how the routing works, if each network has to be different subnets etc...
12:00 < Synx_hm> that any maybe some info on binding
12:00 < Synx_hm> i have never quite figured out how to have my wifi up and a my wired up at the same time and get proper routing
12:01 < Synx_hm> i wonder if frys would have a good book on it
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12:02 < Synx_hm> id be smart to get with the neighboors and setup a wifi sharing plan where we bind all out connections together say at my place and pipe out over high gain back to them on a secure wifi
12:02 < Synx_hm> s/out/our
12:03 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : I hear Blagojevich is going to name Obama's replacement at 2 PM.  We've got our fingers crossed for you, Senator Guy.
12:12 < Synx_hm> i think this year i am going to build a media center computer
12:13 < Synx_hm> the question is do i want to build a NAS and put it elsewhere to house all my dvd's or put the drives into the mediacenter computer
12:13 < Synx_hm> i think a NAS is a better idea
12:13 < Synx_hm> or some sort of dedicated server in the closet etc
12:13 < Synx_hm> hrm
12:14 <@Dolemite> Are you going to do capture of live tv or just view already encoded media?
12:15 < Synx_hm> i think id mostly just rip my entire dvd collection
12:15 <@Dolemite> then nas should be fine
12:15 <@Dolemite> but if you do capture you definitely need local storage
12:15 < Synx_hm> what about gigabit?
12:15 < Synx_hm> still not fastenough for capture huh
12:16 < Synx_hm> what i dont want (which is what i would prob do at this point) is have a bunch of computers in the closet sucking down a ton of power and putting out a ton of heat
12:16 < Synx_hm> my office is allready 10deg warmer than the rest of my house, i need to go a bit more green ;)  Maybe a droboshare
12:16 <@Dolemite> you just don't want any latency for capture
12:17 < Synx_hm> ya
12:17 <@scoil> wtf ups
12:17 <@scoil> it was shipped yesterday, but it wont get here till the 5th
12:17 <@scoil> that's fucking weak
12:19 < Synx_hm> i wonder if a 1U with a raid and a VPN setup would better than an old VPN server and a NAS
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12:21 <@scoil> would a 1tb hd be enough for a media center
12:22 <@NotLarry> ok, I'm running ubuntu and under /etc/network/interfaces I put 'auto eth0' and 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' .  What have I done wrong?
12:22 <@scoil> auto lo eth0
12:22 <@scoil> ?
12:23 <@NotLarry> sorry, I left lo out, I don't have a problem with it that I know of
12:23 <@scoil> what does it do?
12:23 <@scoil> not pull an ip?
12:24 <@NotLarry> seems to not
12:24 <@NotLarry> I can log in and do a dhclient and it picks it right up
12:24 <@scoil> and if you do /etc/init.d/networking restart
12:24 <@NotLarry> I'll loose this connection, but will try that
12:25 < Synx_hm> afk
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12:26 <@NotLarry> still here?
12:26 <@NotLarry> ok, I see the problem:0  doh
12:28 <@scoil> ?
12:28 <@scoil> :0?
12:28 <@scoil> you need to stop smoking that fire
12:28 <@scoil> ur too high for work
12:29 <@NotLarry> eth0 is my internal interface:)
12:29 <@NotLarry> eth1 actually has a network cable plugged into it
12:29 <@NotLarry> trying now
12:29 <@scoil> loooool
12:30 <@NotLarry> am I still here?
12:30 <@NotLarry> lets try a reboot
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12:35 <@nachoguy> Dolomite, yeah, just what I want, to go to jail in a couple years (it's usually the next step after illinois political office)
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13:04 <@NotLarry> well a little buggy but ok
13:04 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: are you around?
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13:27 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: are you here now?
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13:37 <@Evilpig> he should stick around for more than 5 min if he wants to find me
13:38  * Corydon76-dig pounces Evilpig 
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13:38 <@NotLarry> ok, enough of that shit for now.  time to go to work
13:38 <@Corydon76-dig> He was just trying to lure you into the open
13:39 <@NotLarry> Sorry?
13:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Pig
13:39 <@NotLarry> ah, pig is here
13:39 <@Shadow404> Evilpig:
13:39 <@Shadow404> yes, he just responded
13:39 <@NotLarry> oh great and powerful Evilpig, the number is 28
13:40 <@Shadow404> 42
13:40 <@NotLarry> 28, lets not confuse the issue
13:40 <@Shadow404> 42 is the answer to everything
13:41 <@NotLarry> if he puts in 42 my entire existence winks out, and since I was fucking your mother when you were concived, well, you can see where this is going...
13:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Except the question of where Shadow404 likes it.  The answer to that question is "in the ass"
13:43 <@NotLarry> top
13:43 <@Shadow404> sigh, keep dreaming, Corydon76-dig
13:43 <@Shadow404> anywho, that would explain the adhd NotLarry
13:43 <@Dolemite> yeah, everybody knows that Shadow404 loves to be skull fucked
13:43 <@NotLarry> add HD
13:44 <@NotLarry> my first wife liked it in the ear
13:44 <@NotLarry> Least that's the best i can figure, every time I tried to put it in her mouth she turned her head.
13:44 <@Dolemite> NotLarry : No, you just assumed that because she kept turning her mouth away...
13:44 <@Shadow404> well, that explains why she is the "first" wife
13:44 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: ping
13:44 <@Shadow404> yes pig
13:45 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: i'll set that in a sec.  busy right now
13:45 <@NotLarry> k, send me the ip so I can update my dns.
13:45 <@scoil> pics
13:45 <@Dolemite> NotLarry : Aren't you supposed to be romancing your own wife today instead of Evilpig?
13:46 <@scoil> NotLarry, lets get hi
13:46 <@Evilpig> brb adding notlarry's magic number to the list
13:47 <@NotLarry> I already did, thats how I got her out of the bed and on the way to finishing moving
13:47 <@NotLarry> evilpig controles my inardwebs, I know where my priorities lie.
13:47 <@NotLarry> er, lye
13:47 <@Dolemite> wow, you mean after all these years she'd still rather do manual labor than see you naked?
13:47 <@NotLarry> er, eam
13:47 <@NotLarry> who wouldn't
13:48 <@Dolemite> I thought she would have been desensitized to it by now.
13:48 <@Dolemite> NotLarry : Corydon76
13:48 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: check your ip
13:48 <@NotLarry> show of hands, who would rather see me naked than dig a ditch in shit?
13:49 <@Dolemite> How long is the trench and do I have to be sober when my eyes are open?
13:49 <@Evilpig> are we talking runny shit or something semi-firm?
13:49 <@NotLarry> damn it, whatsmyip requires frames
13:49 <@Dolemite> Evilpig has already survived it once
13:49 <@Dolemite> Though I hear it was enough to make all the hair fall off his chest
13:51 <@NotLarry> ok, how can I check my ip from the shell?
13:51 <@Dolemite> So I mentioned to my wife that Southwest has half price fares to Las Vegas today and tomorrow...   she's had me looking up hotel rates.  I don't guess it takes much convincing for her.  heh.
13:52 <@Dolemite> ifconfig
13:52 <@NotLarry> my external, past the firewall, ip
13:52 <@NotLarry> like whatsmyip.com, except that won't work with lynx
13:52 <@Dolemite> wget http://www.ipv6.org
13:52 <@Dolemite> use www.ipv6.org, no frames
13:53 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: why don't you just use say....  a computer with a gui?
13:53 <@Dolemite> Let's not bring up gooey so quickly after talking about a naked NotLarry
13:54 <@NotLarry> but the only ip assigned is to 28 right?
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13:55 <@Evilpig> yes
13:55 <@Evilpig> that is what you gave me.  :P  set your desktop to 28 or something. 
13:55 < Synx_hm> So who wants to learn me on VPN's?
13:56 <@Evilpig> Synx_hm: 1,2,3 not it!
13:56 < Synx_hm> actually i am curious how you all setup your home networks?  Ie do you run all the networks you setup on different subnets?
13:56 <@Evilpig> I have one network at home
13:56 < Synx_hm> thats the only way to do it correct?
13:57 < Synx_hm> i mean if you were to VPN into say a family's network or the office etc
13:57 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: those ports were correct, supposedly for all steam games. so sayith the faq.  https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1456-EUDN-2493
13:58 <@Shadow404> ok, i guess so then
13:58 <@Shadow404> well glad it worked for you
13:58 <@Evilpig> they want me to open up outbound port 25.  I am still refusing
14:00 <@NotLarry> Who wants you to do that?
14:00 <@Shadow404> heh, i wonder why
14:00 <@Evilpig> manager at book and bean
14:00 <@Evilpig> I am hesitant at opening up 110 and 143 for stupids
14:00 <@NotLarry> steam works fine down here in the dungeon
14:00 <@Evilpig> I don't block shit at my house.
14:01 <@Evilpig> I am trying to avoid nonsense at the book store
14:05 <@NotLarry> ah, sorry, wasn't paying attention:)
14:06 <@Evilpig> we're all used to you not paying attention
14:06 <@NotLarry> roger roger
14:07 <@Evilpig> alright done messing with this.  heading back to the office to find out why the HR girl thinks her windows machine doesn't have media player on it
14:08 <@NotLarry> put some porn on her machine, gives you leverage
14:08 <@NotLarry> wife says yournot blocking shit at your house explains how she got in.
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14:34 <@Evilpig> no matter how you handle it.  8GB is alot of data to unrar
14:36 < Synx_hm> try untar'ing 60gigs
14:36 < Synx_hm> :(
14:36 <@coil> over usb1.1
14:36 <@coil> have fun
14:36 < Synx_hm> only way i could backup my fing server to a Fat16 usb drive
14:36 <@coil> take the weekend off
14:36 < Synx_hm> oh ya and its usb1
14:36 < Synx_hm> haha
14:36 <@coil> shitt
14:36 <@coil> take the whole week off for that
14:37 < Synx_hm> i think it might have been 2.0
14:37 < Synx_hm> either way it was f'ing slow
14:37 < Synx_hm> well i am out
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14:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> that's what she said
14:45 <@coil> how
14:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> with her mouth full.
14:46 <@coil> yeah, how is that possible
14:46 <@coil> with out mumbling
14:46 <@coil> unless you have small peepee
14:47 <@M0j0-j0j0> yeah
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14:55 <@Corydon76-dig> AT&T just came by with their U-verse sales pitch
14:56 <@Corydon76-dig> I could be paying $10 more per month for pretty much exactly the same service, yay!
14:56 <@coil> oh they are offering it in tn now?
14:57 <@brimstone> AT&T door-to-door'd you?
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Yep
14:57 <@Evilpig> this poor laptop is disk thrashing on me trying to get this install done
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> "But I don't WANT a box that's going to obey the fcc-mandated broadcast flag!"
14:58 <@brimstone> and pay $10 more
14:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Right
14:58 <@coil> dont get uverse
14:59 <@coil> dude it's horrible
14:59 <@coil> think of like if you internet goes down everything goes down
14:59 <@Corydon76-dig> $5/mo discount for a year, then go up $10 over what I'm paying now
14:59 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: yeah, exactly
14:59 <+critch> Corydon76-dig: but you are supposed to be able to have just 1 4 receiver DVR and then it will transmit to other receivers in your house.
14:59 <@coil> everythign goes through their modem
15:00 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: I like a box that is under my control
15:01 <@coil> their dvr is a fucking pos
15:01 <@coil> worst thing ever
15:01 <@coil> has so many bugs and glitches in it
15:01 <+critch> Comcast doesn't have a good DVR either
15:01 <@I-MOD> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/30/AR2008123001373.html
15:01 <@coil> hopefully the cisco ones are better then the motorola ones
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15:03 <@Corydon76-dig> If U-verse really wanted me as a customer, the number one thing they could do is stop trying to bundle shit
15:03 <@Evilpig> didn't Dolemite just get that?
15:03 <@brimstone> and rave about it?
15:03 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: He raved BEFORE having it installed
15:03  * brimstone flags Dolemite "fanboy"
15:03 <@coil> oh i didn't hear his rant about it
15:04 <@brimstone> or is that fanboi ?
15:04 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: give him a month, and he'll be cursing it more than I curse Comcast
15:04 <@coil> but i'm sure i've heard the same thing 23423 times
15:04 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I got U-Verse last Friday
15:05 <@coil> hows the picture quality? it's about the only thing good about it.
15:05 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : I highly doubt that.  I already requested that they removed all port filtering from my account and it was done in less than 5 minutes.
15:06 <@coil> good old tier2 support for ya
15:06 <@Dolemite> The picture quality is teh bomb diggity.
15:06 <@coil> too bad only 2 hd streams
15:06 <@coil> at one time
15:06 <@coil> it was horrible when it was only 1 hd stream
15:06 <@Dolemite> Their DVR made me think twice about continuing MythTV.  You can record up to 4 streams at a time and any receiver in the house can play back the content on the DVR.
15:07 <@coil> too bad that's only 2hd/2sd streams
15:07 <@coil> at one time
15:07 <@Dolemite> Yeah, but I don't see a need for more than that
15:07 <@Dolemite> I use OTA for the locals
15:07 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: is that a cpu problem or a IO problem?
15:07 <@critch> err coil
15:07 <@coil> Dolemite, do you have fttp or fttn
15:07 <@coil> critch, network problem
15:07 <@Dolemite> it's FTTN
15:08 <@Dolemite> VDSL from node to premise
15:08 <@coil> like att's network can't support 4 hd streams
15:08 <@coil> for everyone
15:08 <@critch> hmm, so if DSL sucked for your location to begin with, then it does no good to get U-verse?
15:08 <@coil> hell no
15:08 <@Dolemite> critch : No, VDSL has different limits
15:09 <@coil> dont get if you are more then 1,000ft from the node
15:09 <@Dolemite> I'm 3,400 feet from the node
15:09 <@Dolemite> er, 2,700.  3,400 is the limit.
15:09 <@coil> over 2,000ft local loop causes for signal issues with some older lines
15:09 <@critch> I was suggesting my mom look into it, but when she had DSL she sat right short of 18,000 ft from the dslam.
15:09 <@coil> Dolemite, are you in a new neighborhood
15:10 <@Dolemite> coil : New being 20 years old
15:10 <@coil> well okay then lucky youy
15:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: did they actually bring fiber into the premises?
15:11 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : No, it's fiber to the node.  They run the VDSL over copper for now.  Future deployments will be FTTP for those outside of FTTN range.
15:11 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: does that axis camera work?
15:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, and then they tried the bullshit about how cable shares bandwidth and they don't
15:12 <@Dolemite> They just share it further upstream than cable
15:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Right
15:13 <@Dolemite> But everybody shares bandwidth at some point :P
15:13 <@sdodson> is coughing up tiny, really dense bits of phlegm a sign of pnuemonia?
15:13 <@Corydon76-dig> And I also loved their bait and switch about how they offer "up to" 18Mbps, then offered me a plan with 10
15:13 <@Dolemite> sdodson : No, it's a sign of an infection
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15:13 <@sdodson> Dolemite: how to fix?
15:13 <@Dolemite> sdodson : Which may or may not be pneumonia
15:13 <@Dolemite> sdodson : Doctor prescribes antibiotics
15:14 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: is it the first 24 hours of symptoms?
15:14 <@sdodson> no this is like four days later symptoms
15:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Then you're screwed
15:14 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : That's not bait and switch.  That's qualifying you for the service you can get.
15:14 <@Corydon76-dig> If you toss your cookies, go see a doctor, otherwise it's probably a virus
15:15 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: my cookies?
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15:15 <@critch> sdodson: you need fluids to allow your phlegm some fluid to loosen up.
15:15 <@Dolemite> regurgitate
15:15 <@coil> hrm
15:15 <@coil> i need fluids
15:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: Comcast could offer me up to 250Mbps, but they just don't offer that in this city
15:15 <@coil> cuz i thought i was ovre this sickness but it seems to have come back
15:15 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: Ask them for 18MBit then.
15:16 <@sdodson> coil: ME TOO!
15:16 <@coil> high five sdodson
15:16 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: they're already gone, and I tossed their quote sheet into the shredder
15:16 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : So what exactly are you griping about?  Just doing it to gripe?  Are you channeling ware for us?
15:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: I'm sharing, just as you shared several days ago
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15:17 <@sdodson> dolemiter called it bait and switch?
15:18 <@Dolemite> sdodson : No, Corydon called it bait and switch.
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15:18 <@sdodson> Dolemite: Inorite, sounded like he just suggested you did however.
15:19 <@Dolemite> sdodson : No, I was in here last week sharing my excitement about getting U-Verse.
15:19 <@sdodson> The windows 7 beta news groups are woefully depressing.
15:20 <@coil> it's only exciting if you get good service
15:20 <@coil> Dolemite, just you wait till theres a city wide "blue screen" outage
15:21 <@coil> since it runs off of microsoft's servers
15:21 <@Dolemite> Yeah, that's so much worse than a citywide whitenoise outage with cable.
15:21 <@coil> they fuck up occasionally
15:21 <@sdodson> When's the last time you've seen a bluescreen coil?
15:21 <@Dolemite> I got one of the new Scientific Atlanta boxes.  It runs l00nix.
15:21 <@coil> often a lot more then cable does
15:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: in the time that I've had Comcast, I've never seen a city-wide outage
15:21 <@sdodson> I know I haven't seen one that wasn't directly tied to immediate hardware failure.
15:21 <@coil> sdodson, im talking about bluescreen on the uverse box
15:21 <@coil> where you can't get any channels
15:22 <@coil> or do anything...
15:22 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : Right, your cable modem just shits itself every 30-60 days.
15:22 <@Shadow404> lets just drop using the internet and tv and go back to using smoke signals, problem solved
15:22 <@sdodson> every 30-60 days seems totally tolerable
15:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: doesn't take out my TV, though
15:22 <@coil> sdodson, my xp box bsod'd the other day
15:22 <@coil> from a software issue
15:23 <@Dolemite> Only a power outage takes out my TV.  I have 3 tuners for over the air digital.
15:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: actually, if BS wants my business that badly, they can provision a data T1 for $50/mo
15:23 <@sdodson> I keep losing several channels every now and then. :(
15:23 <@Dolemite> And when times come that I can't get live tv through the set top box, I have recorded shows to watch.
15:23 <@sdodson> You want the T1 carrier or just the bandwidth?
15:23 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: i just said we go back to smoke signals
15:23 <@coil> Dolemite, even in an outage, your dvr WILL NOT WORK
15:24 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I want the T1 carrier
15:24 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: why?
15:24 <@coil> so you CANNOT watch recorded shows during an outage
15:24 <@Dolemite> coil : MythTV has no dependency on the U-Verse DVR
15:24 <@coil> oh i didn't know you were talking about mythv
15:24 <@critch> coil: sounds like my comcast box then. Until it talks to the headend after powerfail, I have nothing but TV channels, if it is behaving.
15:24 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: Because I know the technology and I can work with it
15:24 <@Dolemite> U-Verse is just an input to it and the DVR is only there because you get a DVR as the first set top box.
15:25 <@coil> critch, yeah it exactly
15:25 <@Dolemite> Anywho, time to go grab 2.0 and take him to speech class.  Later, kids.
15:25 <@coil> each time you do a power cycle it has to redownload the guide each time
15:25 <@Corydon76-dig> This discussion is precisely why I don't want a company-owned DVR
15:25 <@sdodson> I have no DVR :(
15:26 <@sdodson> Why can't I get an OTA guide?
15:26 <@coil> sdodson, get some software
15:26 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: if you wanted one, they are fairly easy to put together, without having to kowtow to a large company's wishes
15:26 <@sdodson> Each channel broadcasts the current program, why can't I atleast get that listing?
15:26 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: I had one, it fall go boom.
15:27 <@sdodson> now i'm trying to figure out what I want to do next
15:27 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: fsck ?
15:27 <@sdodson> I'd like to get an Atom based system capable of decoding 1080i and having an hdmi output
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> What was really funny was that they chose my house for a training session, and the poor trainee was only up on the sales talk, not on the questions
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> His trainer had to answer all the questions and let the trainee stumble forward on his sales pitch
15:28 <@sdodson> They told you this?
15:29 <@Corydon76-dig> They told me he was a trainee, yes
15:29 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: oh man, i just love fucking with door to door salesmen, i just place my gun holster in plain sight and they get quickly to the point so they can move on as quickly as possible
15:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Plus they had about 3 people waiting at my door, one of which never said a single word
15:30 <@sdodson> guns are for pussies
15:30 <@Shadow404> wrong crowd to say that in sdodson
15:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Not sure who the 3rd person was; probably a manager or something
15:30 <@sdodson> Shadow404: Why, you gonna shoot me?
15:31 <@Shadow404> hell no, just the wrong crowd to say that
15:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Clearly, guns are for pussies, Shadow404, if you have one
15:31 <@Shadow404> okie, that makes logical sense
15:32 <@sdodson> Afraid of door to door salesmen, having to pack heat to deal with mormons, jehovahs witnesses. Clearly I'm right.
15:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Guns just happen to also be for the insecure and paranoid, too
15:32 <@someninjamaster> 3
15:32 <@Shadow404> paranoid is me, yes
15:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, and "collectors"
15:33 <@Shadow404> if im not planning on having company or a delivery of some sort, i answer my door armed
15:33 <@Shadow404> i live near atlanta, of course im gonna pack heat
15:33 <@sdodson> you live in marietta bitch
15:33 <@Shadow404> no i dont
15:33 <@Shadow404> not anymore at least
15:33 < Curbob> hahahaha
15:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: if you really wanted them to leave, you'd answer the door in the nude
15:33 <@Shadow404> douglasville, ga now
15:33 <@sdodson> oh, what whitey posh suburb have you moved on to now?
15:34 <@Shadow404> douglasville, ga now
15:34 <@sdodson> I've only been there once and it was to an oversized overpriced upscale white neighborhood, so my insults still stand.
15:34 <@Shadow404> though, when market gets better, we're moving to seattle
15:34 <@Shadow404> sdodson: dude, completely wrong, douglasville is the oppisite of upscale
15:35 <@Shadow404> probably wont renew my license in seattle
15:35 <@Shadow404> tbh
15:35 <@sdodson> "Anthony Bourdain will speak about his background and career, professional accomplishments and world travels followed by a question and answer session."  sound fun?
15:35 <@sdodson> seattle is sort of anti-gun
15:36 <@Shadow404> and that
15:36 <@sdodson> You'll get your ass kicked by bicyclists weilding u-locks.
15:36 <@Shadow404> lawl
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15:36 <@Shadow404> and their is way less crime in seattle
15:36 <@Shadow404> i wonder why that is....
15:36 <@Shadow404> hmmmmmm
15:36 <@Drag0n> anthony bourdain is cool, if you like food and sarcastic new york attitudes
15:37 <@sdodson> Shadow404: http://www.oneeyedman.net/silmaril/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/critical_rider-300x400.jpg
15:37 <@Shadow404> bahaha
15:37 <@Shadow404> nice
15:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: don't forget to sell your guns before moving to Seattle
15:38 <@sdodson> http://www.metrodigital.com/mass/2008/jun/index.html i'm in their photo album if you click on the fourth dot
15:39 <@critch> sdodson: are you the one about to plow into the black car?
15:39 <@sdodson> critch: Ya.
15:40 <@Shadow404> lawl, i would of love to seen that
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15:40 <@nachoguy> sdodson, yes, Boudain is awesome
15:41 <@sdodson> That ride had a bit of violence, but the ride in July people got run over and a cyclist took their ulock to someone's windshield.
15:42 <@nachoguy> sdodson, wait, you're in Seattle now?
15:43 <@sdodson> nachoguy: Nah, RDU. I went to Seattle for a week in June, stayed with family for a few days, stayed with friends for the other days.
15:43 <@sdodson> My friend I stayed with rides his bike to and from work, he's a borg.
15:43 <@nachoguy> yeah, I thought you were still In the capitol of RedHatville
15:45 <@sdodson> If RHT opens a Seattle office I'll volunteer to go!
15:46 <@Catonic> Sweet Home Alabama...
15:46 <@Catonic> Where the chromosomes ain't so far
15:47 <@Catonic> Sweet Home Alabama... where the kids were concieved in a car.
15:48 <@sdodson> Catonic: were you?
15:48 <@Catonic> i dunno
15:50 <@NotLarry> what is the new at&t service again?  I am on chat with comcast and suggest I just get it.
15:50 <@sdodson> NotLarry: uverse
15:52 <@coil> "advanced tv"
15:52 <@coil> llllllllloooooollllllll
15:52 <@coil> i hate it how they market it
15:54 <@sdodson> coil: why are you so anti uverse?
15:54 <@coil> sdodson, because i used to do tech support for them
15:55 <@sdodson> "Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it say that the virgins are girls... So, enjoy your playing Magic the Gathering Online for the next trillion years."
15:55 <@NotLarry> I just typed "and you call that u-verse?" into the comcast support chat, then said, "sory, wrong window, too many chats going on"
15:57 <@coil> lllllllolllll
16:01 <@NotLarry> Comcast just told me they have no manual control over my internet connection.
16:01 <@coil> wat
16:02 <@coil> what is "manual control"
16:02 <@coil> they can't send you some RST packets?
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16:22 <@Drag0n> sdodson, regarding the virgins, nor does it say they have to be attractive, or even human
16:23 <@Drag0n> guess thats why they all get used to the camels before they die
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17:06 <@Catonic> I got a big favor to ask
17:06 <@Catonic> does anyone know of a udp telnet?
17:11 <@ShadowHntr> um...
17:11 <@ShadowHntr> telnet is a tcp application
17:11 <@ShadowHntr> unless you want to just send packets and not know if they came back
17:11 <@ShadowHntr> that's called broadcast, from what i remember...
17:11 <@ShadowHntr> or not telnet
17:32 <@brimstone> Catonic: netcat?
17:32 <@brimstone> nc -ulp 23 -e bash
17:43 <@sdodson> http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/77909774/m/515008526931
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20:33 <@Catonic> brimstone: I think that would do it
20:34 <@Catonic> problem is that you can't udp tunnel using ssh
20:45 <@Catonic> http://ask-art.net/gallery.html
20:45 <@Catonic> ^ nsfw?
20:55 <@remoford> borderline
20:55 <@remoford> prolly not
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21:04 <@Catonic> damn
21:04 <@Catonic> I need another one of these 9" popcorn tins to make a 900MHz cantenna.
21:04 <@remoford> best get eatin then
21:04  * Catonic doesn't want to admit it
21:05 <@Catonic> ouch
21:05 <@Catonic> I've eaten somewhere around 28 cups of popcorn in about a week.
21:07 <@Catonic> well, I can make a slot antenna at least.
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21:16 <+SmthingPrductive> Anybody have a suggestion for an FS on media to be mounted by multiple OS' simultaneously?
21:16 <+SmthingPrductive> We have a fibrechannel SAN, and I would like to expose one partition to multiple systems simultaneously (for archival storage)... I believe EXT3 usually has issues like this, and I rarely use anything else...
21:16 <+SmthingPrductive> Would rather not do a network share (such as NFS), but can if necessary....
21:20  * SmthingPrductive looks at GFS, but am open to suggestions...
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22:06 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: ping
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22:16 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: eh?
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22:24 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: the username is root
22:25 <@dasunt> The password is 'secret'.
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