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00:00 < Mercster> im glad she had fun tho
00:00 <@polerin> Mercster: nah, theres something that's worthwhile about interacting with a machine.  Singleplayer much?
00:00 <@polerin> anyway
00:00 <@polerin> bed time
00:00 < Mercster> ive never seen a wii up close
00:00 <@Catonic> merry xmas
00:00 < Mercster> good night and merry christmas polerin
00:00 <@polerin> 9 hear olds come early
00:00  * polerin nods.  Scrooge mode is enabled, so have a nice day ;P
00:10 < Mercster> "NOT A FINGER!"
00:17 < Mercster> is there no end to this irrational conspiracy against red ryder, and it's peacemaker?
00:21 <@Catonic> Mercster: you'll shoot your eye out.
00:24 < Mercster> hehe
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02:13 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: What was that software you told me about for looking at disk space?
02:13 <@Evilpig> old man...  watch your bandwidth!
02:14 <@NotLarry> damn kid has a 150g drive with 6g free
02:16 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: what am I doing now?  looks like 120k down and 25k up, that too much?
02:16 <@Evilpig> no.  you were pulling 1.1MB/s down earlier
02:16 <@Evilpig> phahque.private.wilpig.org [10.0.0.35]
02:17 <@Evilpig> going to bed now.  tired
02:17 <@NotLarry> yeah, vorshi gave the kids left4dead, they were updating.  bet that was it.
02:17 <@NotLarry> will check on it
02:17 <@NotLarry> about to update it on this puter too
02:18 <@Evilpig> dunno.  just saw it and thought it was a bit fast.  figured it was another torrent or something.  sleeping now.  tired of questing.  almost done with loremaster of kalimdor.  35 quests to go
02:20 <@NotLarry> I was getting cool hand luke, I can just to my downloads at whites creek.
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04:36 <@Catonic> ..-.
05:17 <@aestetix> Just got to berlin
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06:07 <@Catonic_lp> i hate being awake this time of the morning
06:08 <@Catonic_lp> im twitchy and i want something to do.
06:10 <@aestetix> It's 1pm bitch
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07:25 <@Catonic_lp> merry christmas dc0de
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08:17 < ware> merry crimmys errybudy!
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13:51 < AstralSin> god damn, i hate windows
13:52 < AstralSin> i havent experienced this much driver hell since redhat circa 1998
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14:37 < Synx_hm> man i need to dump this old gentoo domain controller
14:39 < Synx_hm> maybe put ubuntu server on it
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14:55 <@dc0de> http://pbdownrange.com/2008/12/25/atlanta-gun-shows-added/
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15:10 < Synx_hm> ugh ive got a 6 year old gentoo server that doesnt have vfat compiled into the kernel
15:11 < Synx_hm> and its headless damn it
15:12 < Synx_hm> gonna have to do a quick kernel compile so i can backup its drives to my vfat usb drive
15:20 <@brimstone> dd | split ?
15:21 <@brimstone> oh wait, can't write to the usb drive
15:21 <@brimstone> dd to the usb drive then :P
15:21 <@brimstone> who needs formatting?
15:22 < Synx_hm> wtf
15:23 < Synx_hm> i just compiled in vfat support and mount it still saying its not there
15:23 < Synx_hm> hrm
15:23 <@brimstone> codepage support?
15:23 < Synx_hm> codepage?
15:24 <@brimstone> yup
15:24 < Synx_hm> what is codepage
15:24 <@brimstone> one of the things vfat needs
15:24 < Synx_hm> oh
15:24 < Synx_hm> its a config option
15:24 < Synx_hm> let me check
15:24  * aestetix is getting angry at PHP sessions...
15:26 < Synx_hm> good call on that brim
15:26 < Synx_hm> gonna recompile and try again ;()
15:26 <@brimstone> and i'm a debian user...
15:26 <@brimstone> nah, figured that one when i was playing with building a live cd
15:27 < Synx_hm> cool
15:27 < Synx_hm> ya i am gonna back up all the domain shares and put ubuntu server on this thing
15:27 < Synx_hm> its running a very very old gentoo kernel right now
15:27 < Synx_hm> might need to replace the raid on it too running out of space
15:27 < Synx_hm> i think it two 80gigs in hardware mirror
15:28 <@brimstone> 1TB is $99
15:28 < Synx_hm> pata?
15:28 <@brimstone> nah, sata
15:28 <@brimstone> good luck finding a >500GB pata
15:28 < Synx_hm> this is an old machine
15:28 < Synx_hm> ya
15:28 < Synx_hm> but even 500gb mirror would be plenty for what i need
15:28 <@brimstone> you can get a NICE 1U for <$1k off newegg
15:29 < Synx_hm> id prefer not to buy new hardware
15:29 < Synx_hm> infact i have to have this up and running again in a day or so because i am on leave here fixing this for my dad
15:30 < Synx_hm> wtf ok still getting vfat not supported error
15:30 < Synx_hm> hrm
15:30 < Synx_hm> i dont wana xfer 60gb over a wifi connection either
15:30 <@brimstone> eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww
15:30 < Synx_hm> but if i have to i guess a cfs mount :(
15:30 <@brimstone> or sshfs
15:30 <@brimstone> or reformat the usb drive?
15:30 < Synx_hm> is that scp?
15:31 <@brimstone> sshfs uses sftp-server
15:31 < Synx_hm> not an option its a usbdrive 300gb
15:31 < Synx_hm> got a ton of other shit on it i need
15:31 <@brimstone> you could resize, shrink, make an ext3 partition
15:32 <@brimstone> but that's as icky as a wifi 60GB transfer
15:32 <@brimstone> and might take longer
15:36 < Synx_hm> hehe
15:36 < Synx_hm> gonna try a modules
15:36 < Synx_hm> module
15:39 < Synx_hm> ha
15:39 < Synx_hm> i wasn't updating the kernel
15:39 < Synx_hm> i guess make doesn't update bzImage
15:39 < Synx_hm> duh
15:40 < Synx_hm> 'make bzImage
15:40 < Synx_hm> '
15:40 < Synx_hm> yay
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15:46 <+Mercster> ...
15:47 < Synx_hm> whats a good tar backup command
15:47 < Synx_hm> keep perms and all
15:47 <@Evilpig> tar zcpPfv 
15:47 <+Mercster> tar -cpzf
15:48 < Synx_hm> thanks
15:49 < Synx_hm> Evilpig: whats the P for, something about '/'
15:50 <@Evilpig>        -P, --absolute-names
15:50 <@Evilpig>               donât strip leading â/âs from file names
15:50 < Synx_hm> rgr
15:50 <@aestetix> Anyone good with PHP?
15:51 <@aestetix> Specifically, managing session variables across multiple pages.
15:52 <+Mercster> aestetix: iirc that changed somewhere around php3
15:53 <+Mercster> i cant tell you off the top of my head, but many php tutorials became wrong wrt: session variables
15:53 <+Mercster> i remember having to fight it
15:53 <+Mercster> though there's some php.ini change you can make to get the old behavior
15:54 < Synx_hm> Evilpig: ugh this is slow :(
15:56 < Synx_hm> oh shit
15:56 < Synx_hm> isn't there a 1gb fat32 file limit
15:56 < Synx_hm> DAMN IT!!!
15:56 <+Mercster> ah, php4.2
15:57 <+Mercster> Until the release of PHP 4.2, session and HTTP variables were by default in the global namespace, which allowed some potential risks.
15:58 < Synx_hm> its 4GB isn't it?
15:59 < Synx_hm> Evilpig: should i just rsync this ish?
16:01 <@aestetix> hmmm
16:01 <@aestetix> with php sessions
16:01 <+Mercster> Synx_hm: rsync-backup
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16:01 <@aestetix> session_start() is enough, thne you can start defining $_SESSION['whatever'] right?
16:01 <+Mercster> er
16:01 <+Mercster> Synx_hm: rdiff-backup
16:02 < Synx_hm> only have rsync
16:02 < Synx_hm> damn it
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16:02 <+Mercster> aestetix: fuck if i remember
16:02 < Synx_hm> i only need to do this across a drive not a network
16:03 < Synx_hm> but iirc fat32 has a 4gb limit
16:03 < Synx_hm> i could just use the span switch in tar
16:03 <@aestetix> I think what I'm running into is a php.ini issue with session management
16:03 <+Mercster> aestetix: entirely possible
16:03 <+Mercster> aestetix: google 'php session variables' yields lots
16:04 <@Evilpig> Synx_hm: I dunno what you are doing.  I use a tar backup of my stuff but if you want something a little easier look at backuppc.sourceforge.net  it's pretty nift
16:04 <@Evilpig> nifty
16:04 < Synx_hm> Evilpig: ya i am just backing up /home to a usb hd
16:05 < Synx_hm> but its fat32 so its got a file size limit ill just use the tar spanning switch to make this work
16:05 <@aestetix> Mercster: yeah yeah yeah
16:05 <@aestetix> Mercster: I know how this shit works. I think I'm dealing with a redhat issue
16:05 <+Mercster> haha
16:05 <+Mercster> :)
16:24 <+Mercster> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1230241053605.jpg
16:27 <@sdodson> there are no red hat issues! Just bad admin issues.
16:28 <+Mercster> there is no red hat issues only zooooool
16:30 <@sdodson> inorite
16:30 <@sdodson> Mercster: wtf are you doing on here during christmas?
16:32 <+Mercster> co' chillin lettin mah nutz hang in tha cut
16:32 <+Mercster> or something
16:32 <+Mercster> i dunno, what are you doing here
16:32 <+Mercster> i was with family yesterday
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16:36 <@sdodson> hiding from my parents
16:36 <@sdodson> guess i should go back down now.
16:37 <+Mercster> i had some invitations for today, but yesterday was exhausting
16:37 <+Mercster> so i stayed home
16:38 <+Mercster> drinking beer and watching 'ben-hur'
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17:03 <@aestetix> Man.
17:03 <@aestetix> I was just at a diner.
17:03 <@aestetix> I am totally getting eyed by girls just because of my accent :)
17:05 <+Mercster> sprechen zie blowjob?
17:07 < AstralSin> i can't install steam!!! grrrrr@!!!
17:07 < AstralSin> today rekindled my hatred of windows
17:10 < AstralSin> windows is bitching about insufficient privileges
17:11 <@Drag0n> vista?
17:11 <+Mercster> turn UAC off
17:11 < AstralSin> xp
17:11 <+Mercster> dont turn UAC off
17:11 <@aestetix> reboot into linux
17:11 < AstralSin> nah, this is my new gaming machine, i'm not gonna put linux on it
17:11 < AstralSin> i've spent 10 hours today trying to get this system up
17:12 < AstralSin> asus sucks
17:12 < AstralSin> i still can't get my audio working
17:12 <@aestetix> vyrus001: you around?
17:25 <+Mercster> intermission
17:26 <+Mercster> ben-hur is a long movie
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17:26 < Synx_hm> Can i screen a piped command?
17:26 < Synx_hm> ie...
17:27 < Synx_hm> screen tar blah | split bljah
17:27 < Synx_hm> it seems to be giving me errors and i cant keepa networkconnection long enough to get this entire tar backup done
17:27 < Synx_hm> :(
17:27 < Synx_hm> this is via ssh btw, so i want a persistant tar running in the background that i can monitor the output
17:28 <+Mercster> probably, try screen "blah"
17:28 <@brimstone> erm, start screen first
17:28 <@brimstone> then run your command
17:28 <+Mercster> or, that
17:28 <+Mercster> hehe
17:28 < Synx_hm> good call
17:28 < Synx_hm> so screen bash
17:28 <@brimstone> just "screen"
17:28 <@brimstone> it'll run your default shell
17:28 < Synx_hm> rock
17:29 < Synx_hm> whats the detach command again?
17:29 <@brimstone> control-a, then d
17:29 < Synx_hm> ahh ^a d
17:30 < Synx_hm> thanks bro
17:30 <@brimstone> right, screen -r to resume, etc
17:30 <@brimstone> or reattach, etc
17:30 < Synx_hm> rgr
17:30 <@brimstone> i should build a little pdc/fileserver box for my parent's
17:32 < Synx_hm> pdc?
17:33 <@brimstone> Primary Domain Controller
17:33 < Synx_hm> ahh rgr
17:33 <@brimstone> then all 4 of their systems would have the same user data, etc
17:33 < Synx_hm> thats what i had here then i moved out and they someone took all of their computers off the domain
17:34 < Synx_hm> this time around no domain just samba user accounts
17:34 <+Mercster> rgr?
17:34 < Synx_hm> roger
17:34 <+Mercster> rgr
17:35 < Synx_hm> ;)
17:35 < AstralSin> god damnit! why does everything give me permission denied when trying to write to my second hard drive
17:35 <+Mercster> :)
17:35 < AstralSin> i've taken ownership of the whole drive and subfolders
17:35 < Synx_hm> chown with recursive
17:35 < Synx_hm> ;)
17:35 < Synx_hm> oh you just said you did that my bad
17:35 < AstralSin> meh, its windows
17:36 < Synx_hm> theres a recursive ownership change under the directory/drive properties
17:36 < AstralSin> linux would let me after i chowned it :)
17:36 <+Mercster> cygwin++
17:36 < AstralSin> i've done it already
17:36 < Synx_hm> ive had to do that a number of times before
17:36 < Synx_hm> oh
17:36 < Synx_hm> sucks
17:36 < Synx_hm> windows does some strange shit with permissions
17:42 < AstralSin> hm, i can create files and folders in that drive via explorer but application installers don't seem to have access permissions
17:43 < Synx_hm> group policy w00t
17:44 < AstralSin> gave the SYSTEM account the necessary permissions
17:44 < AstralSin> works not
17:44 < AstralSin> now*
17:44 < Synx_hm> cool
17:45 < Synx_hm> ill keep that one in my bag of tricks :)
17:45 < AstralSin> im surprised thats never come up before
17:45 < AstralSin> i've done this same thing before and never had a problem, never had to set those permissions
18:03 < Synx_hm> hehe
18:03 < Synx_hm> quote...
18:03 < Synx_hm> Can't understand why anybody with a Windows network at home would by a linux unit, when XP is available for only a few more dollars. Too much pain just to do the mundane.
18:06 < Synx_hm> damn it!!!
18:06 < Synx_hm> filesize limit exceded
18:06 < Synx_hm> ee
18:07 < Synx_hm> praufetus rpcllp # tar zcpPv /home/ | split -b 4000m - /mnt/nomad/Backups/rpcllp/backup.tgz
18:07 < Synx_hm> shouldnt that work for the split
18:12 <@brimstone> eh?
18:12 <@brimstone> erm, try 3500m ?
18:58 < Synx_hm> just tried 3000m
18:58 < Synx_hm> still no go wtf
18:59 < Synx_hm> it seems stuck at 2gb
18:59 < Synx_hm> hrm
19:00 <@dc0de> Synx_hm: file system type?
19:00 < Synx_hm> thought fat32
19:00 < Synx_hm> might be fat16
19:00 < Synx_hm> is fat16 2gb limit
19:00 <@dc0de> Synx_hm: sounds like fat16
19:00 < Synx_hm> shrug
19:01 < Synx_hm> oh well gonna have alot of tgz parts :(
19:02 < Synx_hm> that sucks i am going to have to reformat this fing drive
19:02 < Synx_hm> 2gb limit sucks
19:05 < Synx_hm> ugh
19:05 < Synx_hm> this GM stuff makes me very mad
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19:32 <@Dolemite> Did Sandy Claus bring everybody plenty of be0tches and h0ez?
19:33 <+vyrus001> aestetix: sup, hows gr ;)
19:33 <+vyrus001> yea moose was supposed to handel our travel arrangements, hes been telling me not to worry about it since the past 3 months.. found out last night that he "couldnt buy them"
19:34 <+vyrus001> he waitied till the last minute and rly screwd the dogg on that one but meh, shit happens... just sux cus me and mh's tickets were rideing on it
19:39 <+Mercster> vyrus001: was i txting you?
19:44 <@aestetix> hey
19:45 <@aestetix> Mercster: yes
19:45 <@aestetix> vyrus001: willing to help work remotely?
19:45  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
19:46  * aestetix drinks a Club Mate
19:50 <@aestetix> vyrus001: if it makes you feel any better, he took us out for a night on the town and I got stuck with a bill he is promising to reimburse me for.
20:07 < Synx_hm> compressing 80gigs takes for freaking ever :(
20:08 <@aestetix> that's a lot of porn
20:09 <@Dolemite> not really
20:09 <@aestetix> Dolemite: how much porn is a lot of porn?
20:09 <@Dolemite> > 1 TB
20:10 <@Dolemite> Unless you're talking about tranny midget bestiality pr0n, then the limit is more like 5 TB
20:11 <@Dolemite> It takes a lot longer for each scene because of the character development
20:11 <@aestetix> Dolemite: what kind do you have?
20:11 <@Dolemite>  A little of this, a little of that
20:11 <@aestetix> How little? midget little?
20:11 <@Dolemite> There's some of that
20:11 <@aestetix> Or is this like "big fat guy with a little dick" little?
20:12 <@Dolemite> Nah, I don't want pr0n that reminds me of myself
20:14 <@Dolemite> Well I think I'm going to go watch a movie
20:14 <@Dolemite> later, kids
20:14 <@Catonic_lp> later dole
20:25 <@Catonic_lp> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj_g-kYAZxw
20:27 <@rhia> happy xmas, etc
20:28 <@polerin> so
20:28 <@rhia> just found out one of my aunts died, and my kid's dad was in an accident last night ..... sigh
20:29 <@polerin> lissa's bosses bought her a $270 wine subscription for three months....  Why did they not just give her a christmas bonus
20:29 <@polerin> really
20:29 <@polerin> seriously
20:29 <@Catonic_lp> rhia: you have my condolences.
20:29  * polerin hugs
20:29 <@Catonic_lp> and I hope the kid makes it out ok.
20:30 <@rhia> thanks - kid's dad - my ex - he's ok, but very banged up
20:30 <@polerin> rhia: Need a bottle of wine?  :P
20:31 <@rhia> broke both wrists, his arm, dislocated (possibly broke) his shoulder, cracked a few ribs .... he's a mechanic so the wrist/arm thing pretty much means no income for 2 months
20:31 <@rhia> polerin: heh, free?? heheh
20:31 <@polerin> rhia: if you can get it from us, yeah :P
20:31 <@rhia> polerin: yeah, that 'bonus' is..... bogus
20:33 <@polerin> :P
20:33 <@polerin> well, we appreciate the thought (it doen't say it on the thing, she looked it up)
20:34 <@rhia> better than a pink slip, yeah
20:34 <@polerin> yeh
20:35 <@rhia> Catonic: thanks for the thoughts =)
20:35 <@rhia> guess it helps put things in perspective .... no matter how bad things are, they could be a lot worse
20:38 <@Catonic_lp> rhia: he lived. For this, we give thanks,
20:42 <@rhia> didn't mean to be a bummer - ex is going to be ok, aunt ... well, with her health she just got tired - more a blessing than something to be sad over
20:43  * polerin pours rhia a glass
20:43  * rhia hugs polerin and downs the offering 
20:43 <@rhia> thanks =)
21:23 <@sdodson> polerin never answered my question about bits
21:35 <@rhia> ?
21:37 <@rhia> when did you ask?
21:58 <+Mercster> naughty bits
22:14 <@brimstone> is nash2600 gonna have a meeting on the 2nd or the 9th?
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22:42 <@sdodson> rhia: polerin was going through some see me as a woman schpeel so I asked a question about her bits.
22:46 < Synx_hm> fucking dns hijack
22:47 < Synx_hm> i was just on this website i click F5 and bam road runner adds this site could not be found
22:47 < Synx_hm> what a load of shit
22:47 < Synx_hm> you pay for an internet service so they can hijack dead dns returns to advertise back to you
22:48 < Synx_hm> i know its been going on for a while but it really is a load of shit
22:48 <+Mercster> most of your problems seem to originate in 1999 or so
22:49 < Synx_hm> ya its odd isn't it
22:49 < Synx_hm> i just finally now get to bitching about them
22:49 <+Mercster> hehe
22:50 < Synx_hm> btw if you'd like to know i am at 13 of 70gigs now in my backup and its taken 4 hours to get to this point
22:50 < Synx_hm> :(
22:50 < Synx_hm> i should not have tar'd this ish up
22:50 < Synx_hm> infact i may kill it and start over with out compression
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22:51 <@devemo> Merry Christmas everyone
22:58 <@Dagmar> brimstone: Generally, since it's the 2nd, there'll be no need to even consider moving it
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22:59 <@Dagmar> Synx: You're using Roadrunner's broken-ass DNS?  Have you tried setting up your own caching DNS server to get around that?
22:59 <@sdodson> i don't have these problems
23:00 <@Dagmar> I'd _heard_ about them doing something, but as with most news articles, there's not enough goddamn detail on how, specifically they're going about it.
23:00 <@Dagmar> You're the first person I've heard encountering it personally
23:02  * Mercster pulls down Dagmar's pants and walks away
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