--- Log opened Thu Dec 11 00:00:31 2008
00:02 <@jb7od> burp
00:03  * jb7od is listening to [Pete Rock & CL Smooth - T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You)] at 2:16/4:21 (48 kHz, 192 kbps, stereo)
00:05 <@jb7od> okay: vm -> mstsc -> vm (if u hit ctrl+alt+ins pulls up vm 1 UGGGH)
00:06  * Catonic_lp is listening to [Lady GaGa - I Like It Rough] at 0:50/3:22 (128 kHz, 128 kbps, stereo)
00:07 <@jb7od> way back in the day there was this kid with an fserv trigger of go_leafs_go and i still think that's smooth.
00:08 <@scort> http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/sys/952943129.html is this a steal?
00:10 <@Dagmar> I don't think people would steal that
00:11 <@Dagmar> Google Socket 603
00:11 <@scort> i mean is it worth 80$ for a f ull server
00:11 <@jb7od> hi Dagmar
00:12 <@Dagmar> You don't get CPUs with it
00:12 <@scort> yeah you do
00:12 <@scort> he said he will if you ask him, same with the hd's
00:13 <@Dagmar> Did you ask him that?
00:13 <@Dagmar> I don't see him saying anything about including CPUs
00:13 <@Dagmar> ...just drives
00:13 <@Dagmar> I mean, it's probably worth looking into, but unless you really need a 1U form factor, I'd just give it a pass
00:14 <@sdodson> 1U machines suxors
00:14 <@dasunt> Catonic_lp: Lady GaGa?
00:15 <@jb7od> there's no Lady GaGa in my crates.
00:16 <@scort> it's cheap hardware
00:16 <@jb7od> i'm addicted to vm
00:17 <@sdodson> to vm?
00:17 <@Catonic_lp> dasunt: it's poppy dance music
00:17 <@jb7od> Aye. Virtual Machines.
00:17 <@dasunt> Catonic_lp: I once respected you.  :p
00:18 <@sdodson> dasunt: Hah, dumbass, none of the rest of us sid.
00:18 <@sdodson> did
00:19 <@Evilpig> can any of you get to textbooksintocash.com  and does it load quickly?
00:19 <@Catonic_lp> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/909076509.html
00:20 < Peaches84> night guys
00:23 <@Catonic_lp> dasunt: I once respected myself. Then I turned into a tubby bitch.
00:31 <@dasunt> It's kind of awesome, I can't get severely obese, even when I don't care.
00:32 <@dasunt> Right now, not working out and eating like shit for about 6 weeks, I'm holding steady at borderline overweight, for BMI.
00:32 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: give it time
00:32 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: I'm 30.
00:32 <@dasunt> I've always been this way.
00:32 <@dasunt> And right now, by diet is shit.
00:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Bitch
00:33 <@sdodson> dasunt: Just recently? I thought you'd been a vegetarian for a while.
00:33 <@dasunt> :(
00:34 <@Catonic_lp> im going back that wa.
00:34 <@dasunt> Vegetarian, if you avoid a lot of dairy, is pretty healthy.
00:34 <@dasunt> Ditto for vegan.
00:35 <@Catonic_lp> gotta watch the salt
00:35 <@dasunt> I'm fine with salt.
00:35 <@sdodson> gotta watch deeznuts
00:35 <@sdodson> I need to stop talking like a hoser.
00:35 <@Catonic_lp> I've hit the point where I can eat an inordinate amount of salad in a week
00:35 <@dasunt> Yes.
00:36 <@dasunt> Catonic_lp: When I was eating a ton of salad, I felt pretty good.
00:36 <@Catonic_lp> sdodson: it's ok man, we all have our tweeks
00:36 <@dasunt> I think we've evolved to eat plenty of low-cal filler food when we're hungry.
00:36 <@Catonic_lp> dasunt: I was ok until a certain point
00:36 <@dasunt> sort of the whole "okay, I'd rather take down an antelope to eat, but these leaves kill the hunger for now"
00:36 <@Catonic_lp> then I'd crave carbs or meat or something
00:36 <@sdodson> salad will make me feel better
00:36 <@sdodson> ?
00:37 <@Catonic_lp> I think it's more mental
00:37 <@dasunt> I wonder if fasting occasionally is good as well.
00:37 <@Catonic_lp> sdodson: the important thing to do is just to keep moving
00:37 <@Catonic_lp> watch what you eat, and keep walking
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00:45 <@Catonic_lp> juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuice
01:03 <@dasunt> I keep losing my cup with alcohol in it.
01:06 < eryc> http://www.wreck.devisland.net/ga/
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01:19 < eryc> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/12/09nuke.graphic.1200.jpg
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01:51 <@Catonic> I named my fleshlight. It's named after the two things it saved the most abuse of:
01:51 <@Catonic> Rosy Kleenex.
01:52 < TheLightCosine> oookay /clear !
01:52 <@maco> "fleshlight"? new George Clinton song?
01:52 <@Catonic> TheLightCosine: not funny?
01:53 <@Catonic> maco: google.
01:53 <@maco> Catonic: it was a joke. if you dont get it, you need to go see P-Funk play some time
01:53 < TheLightCosine> oh i didn't say it wasn't funny
01:53 < TheLightCosine> just not very SFW =P
01:54 <@maco> they have a song called "Flashlight" where they keep a flaslight on Sir Nose's crotch the whole time
01:54 <@Catonic> I think so.
01:54 <@Catonic> maco: they aren't talking about a flashlight then
01:54 <@maco> Catonic: and neither were you
01:54 <@Catonic> someone realized a while back that you could put a pocket pussy in a flashlight housing and the fleshlight was born.
01:55 <@maco> interesting
01:55 <@maco> does a pocket pussy really cut it?
01:55 <@maco> i mean, can they emulate it that well?
01:55 <@Catonic> I wouldn't know.
01:55 <@Catonic> I've only tried the real thing, and no cheap substitutes.
01:57 <@maco> this is Sir Nose, if you haven't seen him: http://www.funkythangs.com/images/poster_nose.jpg
01:57 <@maco> the "devoid of funk...i will never dance" thing is a joke because he's a crazy contortionist dancer on-stage
01:58 <@Catonic> George Clinton's entire band is a little whacky
01:58 <@maco> yeah
01:58 <@Catonic> question: exactly what market does Men's Health cater to?
01:58 <@maco> pnut...i think thats his name...rob johnson...took my friend out for lobster dinner
01:59 <@Catonic> I remember meeting poopooman
01:59 <@maco> he came out of the show to find her (we were up front during the show, he kept trying to direct her backstage) and gave her his number
01:59 <@maco> next day he took her out for lobster, then drove her up to baltimore to watch their next show from backstage
01:59 <@maco> is poopooman the diaper one?
02:00 <@Catonic> no
02:00 <@Catonic> that's kinda sad
02:00 <@maco> who has a diaper made of a towel?
02:00 <@Catonic> that's someone else
02:00 <@Catonic> I remember the bassist though, dressed like a monk
02:00 <@maco> yeah...no bootsy :(
02:01 <@maco> id love to see bootsy play some time
02:01 <@Catonic> les
02:01 <@Catonic> flea
02:01 <@maco> claypool?
02:01 <@Catonic> oh stop, you're gonna make me go play with my johnson
02:01 <@maco> hey, i did get to see victor woo10
02:01 <@maco> haha my bass is 250 miles away :(
02:01 <@Catonic> I've missed him so many times it's not funny
02:02 <@Catonic> Bela Fleck and The Flecktones have played here twice
02:02 <@maco> i saw victor when he was promoting Soul Circus
02:02  * maco looks for headphones
02:02 <@Catonic> http://www.skysun.co.za/guitars/images/jjeb0900w_big.jpg
02:03 <@maco> jazz style...
02:03 <@maco> i think...
02:03 <@maco> hrm.
02:03 <@Catonic> I think it's p-style pickups
02:03 <@maco> ahh i havent played in so long i dont even remembr
02:03 <@maco> all i remember is jazz basses have nice narrow necks
02:03 <@Catonic> i've seen some basses
02:03 <@maco> but i dont have a fender :P
02:04 <@Catonic> friend of mine has a few, five string, a fretless, some old chunk of mahogany
02:05 <@maco> http://deanguitars.com/edge_4.htm <-- what i have
02:05 <@maco> i cant afford to have more than one bass at a time
02:05 <@Catonic> nice.
02:06 <@maco> i need a copy of the real book so i have something to play
02:06 <@maco> i can almost sorta kinda remember So What
02:06 <@maco> but i last played in may '07
02:06 <@maco> so while i know where the notes are, i forget the songs
02:10 <@Catonic> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/okc/922119532.html
02:11 <@maco> LOL
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02:59 < Mercster> yeesh
03:00 < juice_> Dagmar here?
03:04 < Mercster> he's off doing some cool logic while outraged at percieved insults
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03:18 <@aestetix> lol
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04:45 < Mercster> linux is hard
04:46 < TheLightCosine> ...
04:47 < TheLightCosine> what about it is hard??
04:47 < TheLightCosine> er
04:47 < TheLightCosine> -?
04:48 < Mercster> EVERYTHING
04:48 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: im being tongue in cheek
04:48 < Mercster> if i cant figure out how to make linux do something, it cant be done
04:48 < Mercster> but its just a pain sometimes
04:48 < Mercster> actually, hardware failrures dont help
04:49 < Mercster> i finally get things to a reasonable working state with this new install (i dont recommend fedora core 10 to anyone right now, btw), all the sudden i have no network
04:49 <@aestetix> what is hard is working meticulously to create really nice code, then handing it off to your manager and watching him rip it apart because he doesn't understand any of it.
04:49 < TheLightCosine> haha amen to that aestetix
04:49 < Mercster> so i look at my router, sure enough no link light
04:49 < Mercster> switch cables
04:49 < Mercster> no link light
04:49 < Mercster> would you believe the onboard nic on this thing went tits up?
04:50 <@aestetix> TheLightCosine: I just looked at some of the code. I'm like... you know, there were specific reasons I did it the way I did.... and here are a bunch of beginners mistakes... *facepalm*
04:50 < Mercster> what's next
04:51 <@aestetix> Mercster: if you wanna be a douche, write code that turns the nic activity lights on and off in a random pattern, then disable the NIC
04:51 < Mercster> aestetix: dude, i have enough problems with supposedly legit software
04:51 <@aestetix> That is every sysadmin's worst nightmare
04:52 <@aestetix> "man, this nic is going crazy... I'm gonna have to call dlink now..."
04:52 < TheLightCosine> lol
04:52 < Mercster> only thing i can think is, its fried, its not exactly the first thing i expect to go in a system
04:52 < Mercster> shouldnt an onboard nic last longer than a hard drive
04:53 < Mercster> i probably have a short somewhere and my computer will blow up soon
04:53 < Mercster> THE GLASS IS HALF EMPTY FOLKS
04:53 <@aestetix> Hmm. Can you disable the onboard nic and put in a card?
04:53 < TheLightCosine> ot it mgiht jsut be that you're running Fedora =P
04:53 < Mercster> how do you think im here
04:53 <@aestetix> among other basic troubleshooting steps
04:53 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: doubt fedora killed my nic, though i wouldnt put it past this piece of shit
04:53 < Mercster> onto my next rant
04:54 < Mercster> well, i have to admit i adopted FC10 much earlier than i did FC9 in it's release cycle
04:54 < TheLightCosine> or it might be that I am as skilled at typing as an orangutan on crack
04:54 < Mercster> but FC10 is at this point a humongous piece of shit
04:54 < TheLightCosine> I bailed on Fedora back in FC 4
04:54 < TheLightCosine> mostly due to being fedup with ndiswrapper's bullshit
04:55 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: fedora always sucks for the first month or so after a release, i dunno why i decided to disregard that
04:55 <@aestetix> Mercster: that's good to know. Since in a couple days I'll be doing a lot of work on a FC10 server.
04:55 < Mercster> io thought maybe someone upstairs liked me
04:55 < Mercster> aestetix: are you setting it up, or just working on it?
04:55 <@aestetix> Just working on it.
04:55 < Mercster> the poor bastard setting it up is the one who's gonna have heartache
04:55 < Mercster> currently 'yum update' is broken out of the box
04:55 <@aestetix> ....
04:55 <@aestetix> Are you serious?
04:56 < Mercster> 3 system-config-* tools dont run and require code modifications
04:56 < Mercster> by hand
04:56 < Mercster> aestetix: yep
04:56 < Mercster> aestetix: that's as of tonight
04:56 <@aestetix> I can understand shipping with a crappy version of solitaire that crashes your system
04:56 <@aestetix> but fuck
04:56 < TheLightCosine> heh
04:56 < Mercster> maybe shit will magical come together tomorrow
04:56 < Mercster> but F9 was much more polished at release than this crap
04:56 <@aestetix> system updates is one thing people don't stand for
04:57 < Mercster> i can garuntee you if you look at first-look reviews, it'll be negative
04:57 < Mercster> yeah
04:57 <@aestetix> when there's a problem, that's the first thing everyone does
04:57 <@aestetix> "Let's make sure you're running the current version..."
04:57 < Mercster> and im no dumbass ya know, i was putting together Xconfigs by hand in 1995
04:57 < Mercster> so if *I* had problems
04:57 < TheLightCosine> yeah well screw that is what i say heh
04:58 < TheLightCosine> of course I've taken the laziest route linux can offer these days
04:58 < Mercster> X refused to read the EDID of my monitor, plus the automagical config tool had left a config file that looked like it had female circumcision done on it, plus a beheading
04:58 < Mercster> there were like, 3 sections
04:58 < Mercster> its just been one goddamn thing after another
04:58 < Mercster> broke, broke, broke
04:58 <@aestetix> Mercster: fwiw, I'm *still* trying to get everything working in eee-ubuntu
04:58 < Mercster> if i didnt just spend 4 hours on this shit, or woulda known, i woulda just gone back to FC9
04:58 < Mercster> which was damn solid
04:59 < Mercster> aestetix: nod...even that i can see, this is a walmart minitower!
04:59 < Mercster> everything's completely off the shelf and standard
04:59 < Mercster> it couldnt get more generic
04:59 < Mercster> aestetix: so what aare the sticking points on the eee
04:59 <@aestetix> Basically trying to get wireless working
04:59 < Mercster> aestetix: the mini 9 comes with ubuntu
04:59  * TheLightCosine is lazy and uses Ubuntu lately
05:00 < Mercster> aestetix: ahh. one other thing that i didn t gget to mention to oddball that the dell mini edges out is, the NIC is replaceable
05:00 < Mercster> not so in eee
05:00 <@aestetix> I got the wireless to pick up the aps
05:00 < TheLightCosine> what kind of chipset is the wireless running on aestetix ?
05:00 <@aestetix> But I can't connect to mine for some reason
05:00 <@aestetix> ath0
05:00 < Mercster> but no packets
05:00 < Mercster> i used to see that sort of shit when i was trying to get adhoc things to talk
05:00 < Mercster> but you know more about networking im sure
05:01 < Mercster> im more of a systems guy
05:01 < TheLightCosine> are the APS using WEP or WPA?
05:01 <@aestetix> Actually, I do more on the programming/algorithm side
05:01 < Mercster> (though you wouldnt have guessed it from my performance tonight)
05:01 <@aestetix> WPA
05:01 < Mercster> aestetix: you still prolly know more about networking ;-)
05:01 <@aestetix> I have ubuntu running on my normal laptop, and it works fine
05:01 < Mercster> never fancied myself doing a lot of math and stringing cables
05:01 < Mercster> i like to beat systems into submission on my ass instead
05:02 < TheLightCosine> have you tried connecting theee to an open or wep net?
05:02 < Mercster> aestetix: ive only run ubuntu once...7.02 or some such, it just so happened the kernel they were shipping did not like the SMP in AMD X2 procs
05:02 < Mercster> so it was too unstable
05:02 < Mercster> to be fair fedora's kernel was broke too (it was a cox problem or something)
05:03 < Mercster> but in fedora a bunch of "noapic" "irqpoll" yadda yadda crap would keep the system  up
05:03 < Mercster> for some reasno ubuntu didnt wanna take
05:03 < Mercster> im sure its fine now tho, as fedora's kernels have been ok since sometime in FC8
05:03 < Mercster> ubuntu was ok, but it'd have to be really awesome for me to consider it as a permanent install, since im so philosophically opposed to debian
05:04 < Mercster> plebian, as i call it
05:04 < TheLightCosine> aestetix: it sounds like it's probably an issue with wpa supplicant, have you tried a non WPA entwork or tried manually configure wpa_supplicant.conf ?
05:04 <@aestetix> Nope.
05:04 < TheLightCosine> why are you opposed to Debian?
05:04 <@aestetix> And I don't know the password to the router.
05:04 < Mercster> actually remember why i installed it that once, it was the first distro (besides maybe SuSE) to offer Xgl and THE CUBE :)
05:04 < Mercster> i was so mystified by that shit
05:05 < Mercster> finally linux didnt look like a toy from the 70s
05:05 < Mercster> of course its completely useless
05:05 < Mercster> but it was fun to show ppl
05:05 < Mercster> "fuck yo mac, sucka, i got a cube!"
05:05 < TheLightCosine> heh, hey i still use my cube =P
05:05 < Mercster> inevitably i always tire of the eye candy and end up working in xfce or something
05:05 < TheLightCosine> it's very handy when coding
05:06 < Mercster> to gain a higher frame rate in some stupid game
05:06 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: yeah, not saying it couldnt be useful for some people
05:06 < Mercster> the demos of it showed it being used well
05:06 < Mercster> but, eh, it was just eyecandy for me
05:06 < Mercster> im too set in working in 4 viewports arranged in a square for that stuff
05:06 < TheLightCosine> I am not an uber-coder so i need to be able to flip between code and reference materials regularly
05:07 < Mercster> you need an animated cube to do that? ;-)
05:07 < TheLightCosine> so it;'s nice to sort of flow from one to the other
05:07 < Mercster> course i guess it's mouse aided
05:07 < TheLightCosine> no, but it makes it so it requires no thought
05:07  * aestetix watches the eeebuntu update process
05:07 < Mercster> hm
05:07 < Mercster> ok
05:07 < Mercster> aestetix: good luck bro
05:07  * aestetix notes a dozen packages he's gonna have to remove
05:07 < TheLightCosine> it becomes an intuitive action
05:07 < TheLightCosine> I'm lazy
05:07 < Mercster> aestetix: besides wireless, everything more or less working? how about suspect/resume?
05:08 < TheLightCosine> if i wasn't lazy i'd be running Debian isntead of ubutnu in the first place heh
05:08 <@aestetix> seems like it, yes
05:08 < Mercster> aestetix: thats usually the the first cross-your-fingers-moment on a linux lappy
05:08 < Mercster> aestetix: do you get any 3d with the intel chip?
05:08 <@aestetix> I solved that on my main laptop by disabling suspend
05:08 < Mercster> heh
05:08 < Mercster> im usually the same way
05:08 <@aestetix> Mercster: I don't know yet.
05:08 < Mercster> fuck conservation
05:09 < Mercster> aestetix: glxinfo | grep Direct
05:09 < Mercster> should, might, come with a little out the box
05:09 <@aestetix> nope
05:09 < Mercster> oh well
05:09 < Mercster> what is it a 950?
05:09 <@aestetix> 1000ha
05:09 < Mercster> thats the intel chipset?
05:09 <@aestetix> yes
05:09 < Mercster> gfx
05:09 < Mercster> huh
05:09 <@aestetix> intel atom
05:10 < Mercster> thats the cpu
05:10 <@aestetix> As far as the graphics card, I dunno.
05:10 < Mercster> i think its a intel gma950
05:10 < Mercster> or some such
05:10  * Mercster checks
05:10 <@aestetix> Oh. I thought you meant the laptop model, because there's a 900 series
05:11 < Mercster> yeah
05:11 < Mercster> 06:09 < Mercster> gfx
05:11 < Mercster> 06:09 < Mercster> huh
05:11 < Mercster> son of a
05:11 < Mercster> anyway, yeah, intel GMA950
05:12 < Mercster> which should have a bit of 3d support, if not much, and if your X server has late enough intel drivers
05:12 < Mercster> not that the thing is made for games
05:12 < Mercster> but, meaning you could do tuxracer or a GL screensaver
05:12 < Mercster> might need to add a line to XF86Config
05:12 < Mercster> er, it's not called that anymore
05:12 < Mercster> xorg.conf
05:13 <@aestetix> I'm still focusing on wireless ;)
05:13 <@aestetix> and yes /etc/X11/xorg.conf
05:14 < Mercster> aestetix: i just have a perverse desire to see a netbook liek that's glxgears score
05:15 < Mercster> aestetix: i have a pal who was saying he hated the eee cuz of its closed wireless card or something, so he got the mini 9 cuz the 802.11 card was just mini pci
05:15 < Mercster> or something
05:15 < Mercster> he could replace it
05:16 <@aestetix> bah bbiab
05:26  * Mercster pores over dmesg again while waiting for his southbridge to burst into flames
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05:35 < Mercster> hm
05:40 < Mercster> ifcfg-fedora: Ignoring connection 'System eth0' and its device because NM_CONTROLLED was false.
05:40 < Mercster> i wonder
05:42 < Mercster> funny thing is it has an irq, the driver is loaded, and the kernel sees it
05:42 < Mercster> just no fucking link
05:43 < Mercster> i dont care anymore tonight
06:11 <@aestetix> Heh.
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06:11 <@aestetix> Interesting how ethernet works, but wireless doesnt.
06:16 < Mercster> more variables
06:17 < Mercster> aestetix: between installing last night, 2 new batches of updates have shown up for F10. they're obviously scrambling
06:17 < Mercster> not surprised
06:18 < Mercster> fedora *does* usually handle things quickly...just didnt know it could be this bad this soon after release. course i gotta remember fedora is sort of a testing bed for RHEL
06:19 < Mercster> im not even sure when F10 came out
06:19 < Mercster> prolly yesterday
06:19 < Mercster> Nov 25
06:19 < Mercster> so 2 weeks ago
06:24 < TheLightCosine> hrm
06:24 < TheLightCosine> just modified the new 0-day ie exploit to try and get it to spit to screen what it's trying to dump in memory
06:25 < TheLightCosine> it refuses to display one of the variable, and the rest gets spit out as a combination of chinese charachters and garbage
06:25 < Mercster> anchient chinese secret
06:25 < Mercster> obfuscation
06:32 < Mercster> i think i crashed the far end of google notebooks
06:33 < TheLightCosine> damn these guys at SANS and shit make it sound so easy to cut throguh this code to find out what they're doing
06:33 < Mercster> !
06:33 < Mercster> HAH
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06:33 < Mercster> damn you google
06:34 < Mercster> i cant help i work the mouse like a virus
06:34 < TheLightCosine> hahahaha
06:34 < TheLightCosine> those damn suer interface devices are huge security vulnerabilities don't you know
06:34 < TheLightCosine> =)
06:34 < Mercster> if your shit interface for notebooks was better i wouldnt have done all that really fast one-by-one bookmarking deleting
06:34 < Mercster> i finally figured out how to select them all and delete, suddenly notebooks gets slow, then that :)
06:36 < Mercster> gmail is actually a fantastic interface, everything is clear...was dicking around in notebooks and it was like Web 2.0's retarded inbred buttbaby
06:36 < Mercster> Wanna do stuff? GUESS!
06:37 <@aestetix> Oh god.
06:37 <@aestetix> Wanna cringe? Joe the Plumber has a new book out.
06:37 < Mercster> cant blame a guy for tryin'
06:38 < Mercster> many successful political/economic careers have started much stupider
06:38 < TheLightCosine> yeah i heard
06:38 <@aestetix> http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/12/10/joe-the-plumber-trashes-mccain-in-new-book/
06:38 <@aestetix> hahahaha
06:38 < Mercster> im wondering how many even on the right care anymore, tho
06:38 <@aestetix> listen to the radio interview
06:38 < Mercster> trashes mccain?? *whistle*
06:38 < Mercster> oooh now see thats dirt!
06:38 < Mercster> smart move
06:38 <@aestetix> The best part is at the end when he praises Palin
06:39 < Mercster> noone wants to hear Joe the PLumbers ideas, they just want the interpersonal soap opera to go on a little longer
06:39 < Mercster> he might sell some
06:47 < Mercster> damnit
06:48 < Mercster> i cant get firefox's fonts to look like anything inbetween microfische or clownshoes
06:53 < Mercster> brb
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07:05 < Mercster> bizarro
07:10 < Mercster> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459756
07:10 < Mercster> this bug is slaying me
07:10 < Mercster> luckily there seems to be a fix
07:10  * Mercster implements
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07:13 <@aestetix> guess it didn't work
07:15 < TheLightCosine> heh
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07:19 < Mercster> muuuuch better
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08:53 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0 h0 h0ez!
08:53 <@I-MOD> what's up?
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09:03 < TheLightCosine> word up dole
09:06 < Mercster> bob dole doesnt appreciate your humor
09:07 <@Dolemite> Bob Dolemite does, though
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09:08 < TheLightCosine> fo rizzy!
09:08 < Mercster> bob dole doesnt have much invested in what bob dolemite thinks
09:08 < TheLightCosine> I'm getting a little delirious over here
09:08 < Mercster> bob dole would rather you keep it to yourself
09:08  * Mercster holds a pen
09:08 <@Dolemite> And Bob Dole isn't in this channel, so it's a moot point
09:08 < TheLightCosine> i've had 5 SafeBoot Disk Encryption recoveries today so far
09:08 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: just check yourself against me, you'll be fine
09:08 < Mercster> Dolemite: im impersonating him
09:08 < Mercster> Dolemite: couldnt you play along AT LEAST ONCE
09:09 <@Dolemite> I have played along, but that was just an experimentation phase in college.
09:09 <@Dolemite> You said you'd never bring it up again
09:10 < Mercster> Dolemite: remember - if it happens in college, it doesnt make you gay
09:10 < Mercster> we all get curious about feelings
09:11 < Mercster> dark, unspeakable feelings
09:11 < Mercster> like the ones installing and configuring FC10 gave me
09:11 <@Dolemite> I know what you mean.  I felt the same way the one time that I tried gentoo.
09:11 < Mercster> ya know i never got around to gentoo
09:11 <@Dolemite> don't bother
09:11 < Mercster> but i did learn the most important lesson
09:12 < Mercster> -O9
09:12 < Mercster> everywhere
09:12 <@Dolemite> it's OMGOPTIMIZED!
09:12 < Mercster> -O9090990eleven
09:12 < TheLightCosine> i spent a whole day prepping a gentoo install
09:13 < TheLightCosine> and then a week trying to figure out what i did wrong
09:13 < TheLightCosine> and then a week convincing myself I didn't really wanna use Gentoo anyways
09:13 < Mercster> i think i basically got the gentoo experience when i used to build kernels in the mid 90s, and gnome builds before 0.30
09:13 < Mercster> type out "make zlilo", go to bed excited for the new kernel in the morning
09:13 < Mercster> wake up
09:13 < Mercster> realize you typed "maker zlilo"
09:13 < Mercster> MOTHER FUCK
09:14 <@Dolemite> heh, so I do some mystery shopping to help pay for meals out...  and the shops range from restaurants to retail
09:14 <@Dolemite> I'm reading one here for a "major discount store"
09:14 < Mercster> Dolemite: mystery...? oh you mean you get paid to do it?
09:14 < Mercster> Dolemite: how does one get in that line of work?
09:14 <@Dolemite> you are required to enter the store in a wheelchair and gauge their interactions with you as a person in a wheelchair
09:14 < Mercster> yer shittin me
09:15 <@Dolemite> Nope
09:15 < Mercster> thats kinda hilarious
09:15 < Mercster> cuz i mean, yer gonna roll in there staring at ppl
09:15 < TheLightCosine> lol i never heard of mystery shoppers having to fake being crippled =P
09:15 <@Dolemite> there are ones for alcohol age compliance, video game age compliance, cigarette age compliance, all that kinda stuff
09:15 < Mercster> so they're like "damn that guy in a wheelchair is giving me the ol'
09:15 < Mercster> so they're like "damn that guy in a wheelchair is giving me the ol' pinkeye"
09:15 < Mercster> doh
09:15 <@Dolemite> TheLightCosine : They don't require you to fake it.  There certainly could be some mystery shoppers who are already in a wheelchair.
09:15 < Mercster> Dolemite: where do you find these things, paper?
09:16 <@Dolemite> Mercster : What area do you live in?
09:16 < Mercster> Dolemite: knoxville
09:16 <@Dolemite> ok, cool, I don't have to worry about you ganking my jobs
09:16 < TheLightCosine> we used to egt mystery shopped just on general eprfomance when i was a gas station supe in HS
09:16 <@tzanger> ganking?
09:16 < Mercster> to steal
09:16 <@Dolemite> The sign ups are first come first serve
09:16 < Mercster> Dolemite: noone really has to worry about me doing any work, my own or anyone elses
09:16 <@Dolemite> I tell too many people about the good ones in my area and I can't get the jobs anymore
09:17 < Mercster> Dolemite: ok but like, where
09:17 < Mercster> just generalize
09:17 <@Dolemite> teh internetz!
09:17 < Mercster> ok
09:17 < Mercster> cuz sure, who wouldnt wanna do that
09:17 <@Dolemite> There are about 20 or so companies that I do mystery shops with
09:17 < Mercster> unless they were just unimaginative or boring or something
09:17 < TheLightCosine> and of course i remember getting redcarded on tobacco age compliance once
09:17 < Mercster> money to try to trip up assholes? SWEEEET
09:17 < TheLightCosine> she ahnded me the card and i said "You look 30 lady"
09:17 < Mercster> Dolemite: did you ever give a really horrid report
09:17 < TheLightCosine> "I'm only 27!"
09:18 < TheLightCosine> "That's still 9 years mroe than 18 now isn't it bitch?!"
09:18 <@Dolemite> Let me put it to you this way...   I've gotten reimbursed $130 for my wife and I to go eat steak for lunch.  That was at one visit, not an cumulative total.
09:18 <@aestetix> Was she hot?
09:18 < Mercster> mmm wifes
09:18 < TheLightCosine> no
09:18 < TheLightCosine> she was haggard
09:18 < TheLightCosine> i chewed her out in front of the entire store
09:19 < TheLightCosine> pointing out that since state regulations was "card if they olook under 27" and she was in fact 27 i could not be redcarded
09:19 <@Dolemite> LadyMerlin has gotten a lot of TGIFridays servers and bartenders fired on the spot
09:19 < Mercster> Dolemite: damn
09:19 <@Dolemite> ware and I did a couple of those shops but he went and moved away from my side of town
09:19 < TheLightCosine> Dolemite: how so?
09:19 <@Dolemite> we only got to get 1 canned :(
09:19 < Mercster> Dolemite: im a real bastard when it comes to politeness and good service...not OVERLY so, but i seem to expect more than many give these days...i bet id be good
09:20 <@Dolemite> TGIFriday's corporate policy is that if you fail to card on the alcohol mystery shop then you get fired on the spot;
09:20 < Mercster> i mean, shit, im a fucking *customer* and i manage to speak politely ya know
09:20 < Mercster> Dolemite: ehh
09:21 <@Dolemite> My favorite, though, was the $80 reimbursement to go gamble at a casino
09:21 < Mercster> the other day i was riding with my mom and we were at wendy's and she pulled up to the wrong window, and this little skinny teenage hawkish bitch was hanging out the other one and throwing up her hands like it was the end of the world that she didnt get her handburgers out in 12.3 seconds
09:21 <@Dolemite> plus reimbursement of 2 buffets
09:21 < Mercster> i almost made a scene but my mom is one of those pushover people, always demurring
09:21 < TheLightCosine> see it's bulllshit having like 30 year old mystery shop for age compliance
09:21 < TheLightCosine> it's pure entrapment
09:21 <@Dolemite> They cap it at 30
09:21 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: yea id rather check for things like good customer service
09:21 <@Dolemite> actually, I think TGIFriday's caps at 27
09:22 <@Dolemite> They have shops for customer service, too
09:22 < TheLightCosine> Mercster: which we got mystery shopped for once a month at sunoco
09:22 < Mercster> if i got someone fired, id want it to be for some intentional moral lapse, not a mistake or something
09:22 < TheLightCosine> i took great pride in Acing every mystery shop
09:22 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: oh ya
09:22 <@ladymerlin> yeah fridays shops are caped at 27 so i cant do any more after march
09:22 < TheLightCosine> it was an extra $100 for everyone on shift at the time
09:22 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: good job
09:22 <@Dolemite> I did one last week where I ordered a pizza from a national chain and when it got to me I had to take top down, side view, and cross section digital photos of the pizza before I could eat it.  Got paid the cost of the pizza + $7.
09:23 < TheLightCosine> lol dole
09:23 < Mercster> the idea of crappy jobs is to work your way to better ones and gain some character, not spend the whole time hating customers, which so many ppl do
09:23 < TheLightCosine> that seems a bit much
09:23 < Mercster> they hate their job, so they hate the people they service
09:23 <@Dolemite> ladymerlin : I think it's already understood that at that point you don't *want* to ever see the inside of another TGIFriday's again.
09:23 <@ladymerlin> haha yeah
09:23 < Mercster> Dolemite: eh, they're good for some drinks
09:23 < TheLightCosine> Mercster: well they also tend to hate their customers because their customers treat them like peices of machinery instead of human beings
09:23 < Mercster> a burger maybe
09:23 < Mercster> skip the steak
09:24 <@Dolemite> Mercster : Yes, but read her blog.  She got stuck doing 3 in one weekend once.
09:24 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: well, customers arent the ones under obligation, really
09:24 < Mercster> customers arent getting paid
09:24 < Mercster> customers SHOULD be nice, but
09:24 < TheLightCosine> doesn't matter
09:24 < Mercster> thats not realistic
09:24 < Mercster> sure it does
09:24 < TheLightCosine> no it really doesn't
09:24 <@aestetix> I love people are assholes at drive throughs.
09:24 < Mercster> sure it does
09:24 < Mercster> customers are always right
09:24 < TheLightCosine> I don't go into any shop and treat the guy behind the counter like shit
09:24 <@aestetix> They get their food spit in so I don't have to worry about mine.
09:24 < Mercster> i dont either
09:24 < TheLightCosine> that's called decent human behavior
09:24 < Mercster> but some do, and that doesnt mean the employee can go off on them
09:25 < Mercster> the employee is a rep of the company
09:25 < Mercster> not their own ego
09:25 < TheLightCosine> no they can't blow up on the customer
09:25 < Mercster> i understand and agree TheLightCosine but reality is noe thing ;-)
09:25 < Mercster> s/noe/one
09:25 <@aestetix> Mercster: uh, customers are not always right.
09:25 < Mercster> aestetix: not technically
09:25 < Mercster> aestetix: philosophically
09:25 < Mercster> unless they do some real dumb shit like take a swing at you
09:25 <@aestetix> You  ever worked at walmart? Or any kind of retail?
09:25 < Mercster> then, well, it's on
09:25 < TheLightCosine> but what you said was that the employees hate customers
09:25 <@aestetix> I'm pretty sure that ad campaign was just to get business. It has no real reflection on reality.
09:26 < Mercster> aestetix: sure. i used to be a floor boy at compuserve. used to bag groceries. used to do fast food
09:26 < TheLightCosine> ui am simply pointing out that a part of that is due to the way they are treated
09:26 <@aestetix> So I'm preaching to the choir :)
09:26 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: a lot do, there are a lot of bitter ppl. if ppl treat you like shit, realize its because the service you're providing is menial at best and better yourself
09:26 < Mercster> you dont take it out on everyone who comes thru the door
09:26 < Mercster> thats not businesslike
09:26 < Mercster> its childish
09:27 <@aestetix> No, you go home and take it out on the bitch you knocked up three years ago.
09:27 < TheLightCosine> that is the msot rediculous thing i've ehard in a long time
09:27 < Mercster> or, that
09:27 < TheLightCosine> "People treat you like shit ebcause you're lousy at your job"
09:27 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: ...
09:27 <@aestetix> Ever seen the movie Happiness?
09:27 < Mercster> "service you're providing is menial at best" != "lousy at your job"
09:28 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: i appreciate your stance is standing up for the poor and oppressed burger king retards of the world, but you're lying if you've never seen a horrible low-wage worker who hates his job and takes it out on everyone, customers most of all
09:28 <@aestetix> I'm a parent trying to get the tickle me elmo. None of the stores have it. I conclude they are terrible at customer service and file complaints against the workers.
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09:28 < TheLightCosine> Mercster: : i didn't say that
09:28 < Mercster> aestetix: bossman aint gonna fire you cuz there's a crazy customer blaming you personally for not stocking enough elmos
09:29 < Mercster> the idea is to be polite and put a good face on the company
09:29 < TheLightCosine> but what about the asshole who walks into a retail store throws a fit cus he doesn't get what he wants no matter how unreasonable then starts threatening the poor 17 year old girl behind the counter?
09:29 < Mercster> so that dumb bitch comes back
09:29 < Mercster> and spends more money
09:29 < Mercster> thats the bottom line
09:29 <@aestetix> I'm an employee who has to listen to this gimmicky holiday shit music, and they keep coming up and asking me the same shit over and over again....
09:29 < Mercster> jobs arent vision quests to find your inner child
09:29 < Mercster> yer there to do a job
09:29 < Mercster> i sympathize with the sentiments
09:29 <@aestetix> Mercster: what if all the customers decide to file complaints against you?
09:29 <@Dolemite> Damn, any 17 year olds in Nashville I can borrow?  The tobacco compliance shops that are due before 12/19 are up to $40.
09:29 < Mercster> but they arent realistic
09:30 < TheLightCosine> wow
09:30 <@Dolemite> Ah, never mind, I'd have to be between 18-25 *and* have a 17 year old with me
09:30 < TheLightCosine> i really can't take lsitening to another thing you say
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09:30 < Mercster> aestetix: i guess life isnt fair. do you think causing a scene and treating a customer badly in public is going to better serve your career of showing people where the electronics are?
09:30 <@rhia> http://notalwaysright.com/   <-- there's a reason this site exists
09:30 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: you're young, you'll feel like i do someday
09:30 < TheLightCosine> there you go making assumptions merc
09:31 < TheLightCosine> so how old am I?
09:31 <@aestetix> 17
09:31 < Mercster> i dont mean your physical age, i mean your mentality, overal emotional maturity
09:31 <@aestetix> Ripe age for Dolemite
09:31 < Mercster> it's obviously way down  there
09:31 < Mercster> i would guess 17 isnt too far off
09:31 < TheLightCosine> and trust me when I say i will never make excuses for the way people treat service people ebcause they "provide menial service"
09:31 <@Dolemite> Mercster : You'd be *way* off
09:31 < Mercster> possibly older, considering the way young people are coddled their entire lives
09:31 < TheLightCosine> it's great that you think you're better than everyone
09:32 < Mercster> not better, just smarter, and not everyone, just you, in this instance :)
09:32 < Mercster> but hey, you go spitting in customer's faces
09:32 < TheLightCosine> okay that's it listen to me you arrogant little fuck
09:32 < Mercster> how awesomely "anarchist" of you
09:32 < Mercster> rage against the machine, kid
09:32  * aestetix gets popcorn
09:32 < TheLightCosine> i've had more life experience and less coddling in my life than you could ahve if you lvied to be 150
09:32 < Mercster> then why do you feel sorry for punks who treat customer's badly
09:32 < Mercster> i dont think you do, actually
09:33 < Mercster> i think you're just part of the victim culture, so you feel like arguing with me about something stupid
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09:33 < TheLightCosine> why do you think it's okay for people to treat other people like dirt
09:33 < TheLightCosine> because a guy works at kohls, or walmart doesn't make hima worse person than you
09:33 < Mercster> i dont think its right for customers to treat employees like dirt, or vice verse
09:33 < Mercster> versa
09:33 < Mercster> i understand that
09:33 < Mercster> it also doesnt mean he gets to haul off on people and act badly towards him
09:33 < Mercster> he's an employee
09:33 < TheLightCosine> wno you obviosuly don't
09:34 < Mercster> if he wants jobs away from morons looking for clothes, he should educate himself and get a job behind a desk working on computers like you do
09:34 < Mercster> two wrongs dont make a right
09:34 < Mercster> ever heard that?
09:34 < Mercster> corny?
09:34 < Mercster> yes
09:34 < Mercster> true?
09:34 < Mercster> absolutely
09:34 < Mercster> there are many corny things that are true
09:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> well, what I've found over the years is that everyone get motivated in different ways
09:35 < TheLightCosine> Mercster	if he wants jobs away from morons looking for clothes, he should educate himself and get a job behind a desk working on computers like you do <- typical conservative bullshit philosophy
09:35 < Mercster> and not every low-wage worker is a victim of the system
09:35 < Mercster> sometimes they're just there working their way through life and happen to be assholes
09:35 < TheLightCosine> what about the college professor laid off who can't find more work bagging groceries at kroeger?
09:35 < Mercster> that IS possible, you realize
09:35 < TheLightCosine> i guess he just needs to better himself hunh?
09:35 < TheLightCosine> you make assumptions about people
09:35 < Mercster> i dont need to make assumptions about someone whos an asshole
09:35 < TheLightCosine> and don't care to evaluate if they are even remotely true
09:35 < Mercster> they're an asshole
09:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> I think you should always try the nice way first, but when it becomes obvious that you can't motivate someone by positive reinforcement you have to be willing to change your tactics
09:36 < Mercster> if you treat people badly cuz you hate your job, you're an asshole
09:36 < Mercster> period
09:36 < TheLightCosine> if you treat people badly because they work at a gas station
09:36 < TheLightCosine> guess what
09:36 < TheLightCosine> you're an asshole.
09:36 < Mercster> if you treat employees badly cuz they're providing a service for you, you are likewise an asshole
09:36 < Mercster> ah!
09:36 < Mercster> you're reacting to one half of what i say cuz it makes you feel like the robin hood of the 7/11
09:37 < Mercster> it's pretty transparent
09:37 < Mercster> i dunno what you're arguing for still, employees to treat customers any way they want i guess
09:37 < Mercster> you havent made it clear
09:37 < Mercster> you've only acted outraged
09:37 < TheLightCosine> hahaha, i bet youget off on how smart you think you are don't you?
09:37 < Mercster> which is useless to me and anyone else
09:37 < Mercster> so save it
09:37 < Mercster> unless you have some measured content :)
09:38 < TheLightCosine> you just keep proving the point
09:38 <@M0j0-j0j0> actually... I'd have to disagree
09:38 < TheLightCosine> all you do is make assumptions about people absed off little to no evidence then accept it as absolute truth
09:38 < Mercster> being smart doesnt necessarily get me off, but when a buffoon attacks me for no reason, it doesnt feel badly to use it
09:38 <@M0j0-j0j0> being an ass is a skill
09:38 < Mercster> why be smart if you cant make jackasses wince
09:38 <@M0j0-j0j0> you have to know when to use that skill
09:38 < Mercster> everyone needs a hobby
09:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: you aren't any better than anyone else
09:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: neither are you
09:39 < Mercster> all i said was that employees should not treat customers badly because they dont like their job. this was a sin to you :)
09:39 < TheLightCosine> Mercster: you'rre not smart, you've already proven your assumtpions about me ebfore were wrong, yet you persist in making more assumptions
09:39 < Mercster> i dont feel like belaboring that point anymore
09:39 < TheLightCosine> no
09:39 < Mercster> it's obvious to me the depth of your thought on the matter
09:39 < Mercster> which is near nil
09:40 < TheLightCosine> what you said was that those kind of emp[loyees hate people because it's easier than bettering themselves
09:40 < Mercster> now if you have an audience here to impress, you go on right ahead.  i have FC10 to bang my head against
09:40 < TheLightCosine> you didn't say anything about treating customers badly at first
09:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: well, "those kind of employees" need to better themselves
09:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> if they are taking the fact that they are unhappy out on me
09:42 < TheLightCosine> I agree
09:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> and while two wrongs don't make a right.... sometime if you're mistreating me... I'm going to attack back
09:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> I try not to because being the good guy makes the other guy look like a real ass
09:43 < TheLightCosine> M0j0-j0j0: here's my philosophy having worked those kind of jobs for many years
09:44 <@rhia> but if you come in with an attitude and start pushing a retail/service clerk around - and you're #27 to do so that shift - don't be surprised at a surly attitude in return -
09:44  * Dolemite throws Mercster and TheLightCosine into a ring and hands both of them inflatable sumo costumes
09:44 < Mercster> Dolemite: ;) damn those look fun
09:44 < TheLightCosine> when you are trained in customer service one thing they tell you is "sometimes the customer isn't angry at you. They mgiht be having a bad day, they might just be angry at the situation, try to not take it personally"
09:44 < TheLightCosine> Now I am on the other side of the table, i try to apply the same ideas the other way
09:44 < Mercster> < TheLightCosine> M0j0-j0j0: here's my philosophy <- whoa boy
09:44 < Mercster> here it comes
09:45 < Mercster> elucidation from the ascended master
09:45 < TheLightCosine> as i said at the beggining, rememebr that a store clerk is still a human being
09:45 < TheLightCosine> not just an ATM machine there to dispense a service to you
09:45 < TheLightCosine> and i'm sorry if it makes me a "bleeding heart" or whatever, but I think it's seriously fucked up the way people treat each other these days
09:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> well, I figure that (in most cases) the guy your dealing with isn't the one that wronged you and (in most cases) if you're polite they'll bend over backwards to get things right
09:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> but
09:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> as I said... some people need different motivation
09:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> some people can't be motivated
09:47 <@M0j0-j0j0> (verizon customer services)
09:47 <@aestetix> M0j0-j0j0: unless there's money or pussy involved.
09:47 <@Dolemite> TheLightCosine : Just don't forget that the store clerk isn't serving you out of kindness, they are doing it in exchange for money.
09:47 < TheLightCosine> Dolemite:  that doesn't make them not a person tho
09:47 <@Dolemite> No, it doesn't
09:47 < Mercster> the next time a smarmy emo kid at arby's is loud, obnoxious, slow with your order, doesnt make eye contact and doesnt acknowledge your existence other than to throw a plate of food at you....embrace that person.  talk about feelings.  listen to each other's heartbeats.  weave a dreamcatcher together, make an afternoon of it.  they're people too, and they want nothing more than to be condescended to by a wise sagely being who feels their 
09:47 <@Dolemite> And there still needs to be a level of respect on both parts
09:47 < TheLightCosine> i find that most people like that if you go in and talk to them as a person, you get GREAT customer services
09:48 <@Dolemite> s/parts/parties
09:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> I think a lot of service people forget that serving you is what they are paid to do
09:48 <@rhia> Dolemite: agreed, but a smile and a bit of empathy go a long way towards getting Better service
09:48 < TheLightCosine> the ones who don't respond, well they must not WANT to be treated like a human being
09:48 <@rhia> Mercster: that's quite a  ...  leap
09:49 < Mercster> rhia: it was quite a stretch to call me a "conservative" and an ass for suggesting that employees not take their anger out on customers, even if they are not afforded every bit of deferrence and respect they think they deserve :P
09:49 < Mercster> im just "grown up", that's all
09:49 < Mercster> i know it's a tough row to hoe
09:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: assholism doesn't have an age limit
09:50 < Mercster> i advocated for mutual respect between both workers and customers, and TheLightCosine's head nearly exploded!
09:51 <@rhia> Mercster: i've done retail and tech support - and it's hard to find professionalism at any level anymore - know just as many (if not more) abusive jerks in suits as in uniforms
09:51 < Mercster> M0j0-j0j0: you've got to wonder how someone lives any amount of time outside of mom's house without gaining some  common sense
09:51 < TheLightCosine> heh M0j0-j0j0 : "Were you born an asshole?Or did you work at it your whole life?"
09:51 < Mercster> M0j0-j0j0: id counter that emotional age is far more telling about a person than how long they've been on the planet
09:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: some folks don't learn mutual respect until they are a bit older
09:51 < Mercster> rhia: i agree wholeheartedly
09:52 < Mercster> ive worked "retail" and many computer admin jobs as well, and there's no doubt, bad people are all over
09:52 < Mercster> the thing with a bad businessman is, he's usually smart enough to put a smile on his face in front of the person he's trying to sell something to, or what have you
09:53 < Mercster> his crime is usually against subordinates
09:53 < Mercster> so its not exactly what we were talking about, i dont think
09:53 < Mercster> but your point is well taken
09:54 < Mercster> ive seen people in suits who would rape a grandmother to get someone they dont like fired and take their position
09:54 < Mercster> and ive seen it come close to happening
09:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> I did a very short stint in retail when I was much younger and during that time I was focused more on honestly than curtsy.  In many cases it would have just been better to lie.
09:54 < TheLightCosine> great now i';m going to have that song stuck in my head
09:54 <@aestetix> Ok. I have a real question.
09:54 < Mercster> as i stated before everyone got upset with me, i always try to be polite and courteous, and have manners :)
09:54 < TheLightCosine> M0j0-j0j0: and not all VZW is that bad...just the call center mostly
09:54 <@aestetix> Trying to get this dvd working. libdvdcss is installed. regionset set to 1, trying to figure out what I'm missing
09:55 < Mercster> whether im slinging burgers or supporting programmers in an office environment with my technical expertise
09:55 < Mercster> though, everyone has bad days
09:55 < TheLightCosine> they hire some of the worst phone reps i've ever encountered tho
09:55 <@Shadow404> oh man, i have verizon
09:55 < Mercster> aestetix: what's the player do?
09:55 < TheLightCosine> I spent 3 years as a contractor to Verizon Wireless doing handset repairs
09:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> TheLightCosine: no, this was at a store
09:55 < TheLightCosine> oh
09:55 <@Shadow404> verizon business sucks even more
09:55 < TheLightCosine> well that is unfortunately a toss up
09:55 <@aestetix> Gives an error that the DVD is encrypted.
09:55 <@Shadow404> half the time they hire reps you can understand their name even
09:56 <@aestetix> And asks to install libdvdcss, which is already installed.
09:56 < Mercster> aestetix: most the time you want libdvdcss or libdvdread, and libdvdnav
09:56 < TheLightCosine> Verizon is a big business and no matter how much they try to be, a big business is not your friend
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10:04 <@aestetix> I should get a new driver's license
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10:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> CSR: the reason people shop on the internet
10:04 < Mercster> consistency heh
10:04 < Mercster> er, heh
10:05 < Mercster> M0j0-j0j0: clicking never hurt anybody
10:05 <@rhia> Mercster: carpal tunnel!
10:05 < Mercster> rhia: dammit
10:05 < Mercster> im always wrong :/
10:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: you must not visit the same pr0n sites as me :)
10:05  * Mercster cries into FC10
10:05 < Mercster> M0j0-j0j0: heh
10:06 < Mercster> M0j0-j0j0: chaffe much?
10:06 < Mercster> give it a rest there, man!
10:07 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
10:07 < Mercster> goodday nachoguy
10:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> moanin
10:08 < Mercster> well shiz. now that ive got fc10 acting like a halfway-sensible system, im so traumatized by the experience that ive forgotten why i need computers
10:08 < Mercster> what a waste
10:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: make your clicks hurt someone here http://www.subservientchicken.com/
10:08 < Mercster> aaaahaha
10:08 < Mercster> i remember that
10:08 < Mercster> that was great
10:09 < Mercster> i told him to eat poop but he wouldnt
10:09 < Mercster> some subservience
10:10 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: talk about someone that has to be pissed off because they hate their job
10:11 < Mercster> yea, right
10:11 < Mercster> M0j0-j0j0: for the record, if TheLightCosine asks, i said "please"
10:11 <@M0j0-j0j0> :D
10:13 < Mercster> hmm, banshee or rhythmbox?
10:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: if you tell him to lay an egg it looks like he's taking a poo
10:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> on the carpet
10:14 < Mercster> heh
10:15 < Mercster> i wanna see that latest burger king marketing thing, the burger virgins
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10:16 < Mercster> i believe that shit, noone without a significant amount of experiential or cultural bias would eat a big mac over a whopper
10:16 < Mercster> its just not possible
10:17 < Mercster> and if they would, may they rot in hell
10:17 < Mercster> j/k, im just trying to match the intensity of the last convo
10:18 < Mercster> i think you could make the case, though, that you'd have to be pretty jaded about hamburgers in essense to want to eat one soaked in thousand island dressing
10:18 < Mercster> it's like cleveland steamers...sex is great on it's own, why add shit?
10:19 < Mercster> out of boredom id wager
10:19 < Mercster> a deep-seated existential inability to feel joy
10:20 < Mercster> haha, burger virgin commercial just came on
10:20 < Mercster> i think you can go to burgerking.com and watch a short film
10:26 < Mercster> anyone wanna bone
10:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> Mercster: thanks, but my dance card is full
10:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> sorry
10:29 < Mercster> cant blame a guy for tryin'
10:36 <@aestetix> You know, you could not eat either and feel good about yourself.
10:36 < Mercster> burgers?
10:36 <@aestetix> Yes.
10:36 < Mercster> i feel great about myself after a burger
10:36 <@aestetix> I meant fast food.
10:36 < Mercster> dunno that id pick a whoper
10:36 < Mercster> but, of the two
10:36 < Mercster> whopper wins hands down
10:36 < Mercster> thats all im sayin'
10:37 <@aestetix> That's like, would you rather have a 10 inch or 12 inch dildo shoved up your ass
10:37 < Mercster> ... well ive never had a dildo up my ass, but id go out on a limb and guess id enjoy the burger more
10:37 < Mercster> aestetix: unless you were the one punishing me <3
10:38 <@nachoguy> you'd enjoy the burger up your ass more than the dildo?
10:38 < Mercster> how about you shove the burger up my ass with the blunt end of a 12 inch dildo
10:38 < Mercster> in that case id pick the big mac
10:38 < Mercster> thousand island lube
10:39 <@aestetix> Was he just flirting with me?
10:39 <@Corydon76-dig> I think so
10:39 < Mercster> aestetix: i dunno man, i find it hard to relate to the kind of sentiment on that 'supersize me' show...that poor guy's wife had him eating alfalfa and tree bark for so long, he ate one burger and couldnt hold it down
10:39 < Mercster> and he filmed it like it was some kinda mortal poison
10:40 < Mercster> the way i see it, when you go out of your way to expose yourself to absolutely nothing even marginally harmful for you...
10:40 < Mercster> yeah, a whopper might make you violently ill
10:40 < Mercster> i like to think im made of tougher stuff
10:40 <@aestetix> God damn.
10:40 < Mercster> maybe ill die 5 or 10 years early cuz i eat meat, i dunno
10:40 <@aestetix> Now this is making me want to get food at McDonalds
10:40 < Mercster> dont really care
10:40 < Mercster> aestetix: heh :)
10:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: you're not.  Your insides are just slowly going black
10:41 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: does that get painful?
10:41 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: i better keep drinking, flush some of that shit out
10:41 <@Corydon76-dig> You just won't know until 20 years later
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10:41 < Mercster> speaking of, i have one beer
10:41 < Mercster> and it is calling my name
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10:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Try water
10:41 < Mercster> (meeerrrrrc....)
10:41 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: do you eat fast food?
10:42 < Mercster> im drinking water right now, actually
10:42 < Mercster> too lazy to make tea
10:42 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: Once a week, if Taco bell counts
10:42 < Mercster> i eat fast food about once every 6 months
10:42 < Mercster> literally
10:42 <@rhia> taco bell doesn't even count as food
10:42 < Mercster> im po' folk
10:42 < Mercster> not that i dont want to
10:42 < Mercster> i love the stuff
10:42 <@aestetix> Mercster: um, fast food is expensive.
10:42 < Mercster> just, too much trouble, too much gas, too much money
10:43 <@aestetix> As compared to getting the ingredients at a store.
10:43 < Mercster> aestetix: we've had this discussion earlier
10:43 < Mercster> aestetix: it really depends
10:43 < Mercster> aestetix: volume of foodstuffs prepared, etc
10:43 < Mercster> in terms of pure calories, its pretty cheap
10:43 < Mercster> in terms of actual amount of food that will fill you up, it is expensive
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10:44 < Mercster> and depending on how you shop, you could do better or worse
10:44 < Mercster> but, i shop real smart, i always buy generic everyting and use coupons
10:44 < Mercster> so i know i do better shopping
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10:45 < Mercster> but, for like, some destitute people who dont really have the kitchen, or the appliances, or the capacity to freeze foods and stuff
10:45 < Mercster> poor ppl can get by alright on fast food
10:45 < Mercster> it alllllll depends
10:45 < Mercster> my mom lives in the rich part of town, she goes to "Ingles"
10:46 < Mercster> sure you guys have seen them
10:46 < Mercster> anyway around here Ingles is the real expensive store
10:46 < Mercster> build them right on the edge of rich white neighborhoods
10:46 < Mercster> my mom will go and spend $50 on like, just a few things
10:46 < Mercster> barely covers the bottom of her cart
10:47 < Mercster> me, i go to food city and get damn near the same stuff, ~$150 feeds me for a whole month
10:47 < Mercster> in fact i prolly eat better
10:48 < Mercster> my mom would probably save money eating 3 fast food meals a day, i wouldnt
10:48 < Mercster> not picking on my mom, Ingles is close and all that
10:48 < Mercster> and she has a larger budget than i do
10:49 < Mercster> but, that thar's the way it is
10:49 < Mercster> aestetix: when i was in my early 20 and had my first salaried positions, i ate takeout pizza 7 nights a week
10:50 < Mercster> er, not aestetix:
10:50 < Mercster> just typing
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10:50 < Mercster> nomesayn
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10:52 <@aestetix> I think you'll experience the effects of that much later
10:52 <@aestetix> like in your 40s and 50s
10:53 < Mercster> im doomed
10:53 < Mercster> i dunno tho, i think ill probably feel all the cocaine, weed, booze, amphetamine and acid first
10:53 < Mercster> not too worried about the pizza, really
10:53 < Mercster> it's all relative
10:53 <@aestetix> What about the herpes?
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10:54 < Mercster> you said you wouldnt tell :(
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10:54 < Mercster> actually ive been real lucky there, the only disease i ever got from sex was two children
10:55 < Mercster> (kidding, kidding)
10:56 <@Shadow404> it was 3, wasnt it
10:56 <@aestetix> Now we know who ware's real father was.
10:56 <@Shadow404> lawl
10:56 < Mercster> nah, 2
10:56 < Mercster> boy and a girl
10:56 <@Shadow404> aestetix: he was a bastard child
10:56 <@aestetix> I love how I'm doing all these yoga stretches to be healthy so I can walk to McDonalds and get lunch
10:57 < Mercster> i can pretend to be ware's dad if 1) it'll be hilarious and 2) he prolly wont kick my ass, tho
10:57 < Mercster> aestetix: life's meant to be lived, son
10:57 < Mercster> you cant take it with you
10:57 <@aestetix> Actually, the stretches are for dancing.
10:57 < Mercster> hot
10:57 <@aestetix> I still have yet to really break it out at a club.
10:57 < Mercster> no offense but having met you, i cant imagine you dancing
10:58 < Mercster> like rave dancing?
10:58 <@aestetix> I used to do that.
10:58 <@Shadow404> aestetix: please provide you tube link
10:58 <@aestetix> That video is horrible.
10:58 <@Shadow404> show him!!!
10:58 <@Shadow404> or i will
10:58 <@aestetix> I am still working on the splits.
10:58 < Mercster> yes, the tubes must be subjected to aestetix dancing
10:58 < Mercster> it is meant to be
10:59 < Mercster> aestetix: LET'S SEE IT
10:59 <@aestetix> Shadow404: go ahead, dig it up. *sigh*
10:59 <@Shadow404> foundit
10:59 <@Shadow404> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2EyBzVVX0g&feature=channel_page
10:59 < Mercster> aestetix: hey, can you explain that guy who was at phreaknic with the boombox suit and two male groupies who just came and danced?
10:59 < Mercster> sweeeeeeeeeeet
10:59 <@aestetix> Explain what?
10:59 < Mercster> well, just the nature of it, i guess
11:00 <@aestetix> I do not recall this.
11:00 <@aestetix> Remember, I left saturday morning.
11:00 < Mercster> HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
11:00 <@aestetix> What were they doing?
11:00 < Mercster> aestetix: you've got promise!
11:00 < Mercster> aestetix: it was weird, man
11:00 < Mercster> aestetix: he was mainly there on the last night
11:00 <@aestetix> That video is actually painful to watch.
11:00 < Mercster> out front, then on the roof
11:00 < Mercster> aestetix: yeah, kinda
11:01 < Mercster> aestetix: but its not too bad really
11:01 < Mercster> aestetix: if you were more forceful and deliberate in some of your actions
11:01 < Mercster> it'd actually come across as halfway cool
11:01 < Mercster> but you halfass some of it
11:01 < Mercster> out of nerves or, just not being limber enough
11:01 <@aestetix> That's because (1) the camera sucked (2) the music didn't get through (3) I didn't have enough time to loosen up
11:01 < Mercster> like when you extend your arms out, you really wanna EXTEND EM
11:01 < Mercster> ya know
11:02 < Mercster> dont pull em back halfway
11:02 <@aestetix> Yes, I know.
11:02 <@Shadow404> aestetix: and you suck cock better than u dance
11:02 < Mercster> enunciate
11:02 < Mercster> aestetix: but yea not bad man
11:02 < Mercster> aestetix: i couldnt look that good prolly
11:02 < Mercster> i stick to more funky style jungle dance
11:02 < Mercster> lots of hip thrusting
11:02 <@aestetix> I may actually break out some moves at CCC
11:02 <@aestetix> That's a totally different style.
11:02 < Mercster> yeah
11:03 <@aestetix> And, I daresay, easier ;)
11:03 < Mercster> not technical, just to look like you can fuck in front of females
11:03 < Mercster> ya, sure
11:03 < Mercster> it's just a social primal thing
11:03 < Mercster> not like, a technique
11:03 < Mercster> which you displayed
11:03 <@aestetix> Shadow404: did your boyfriend tell you that?
11:03 < Mercster> aestetix: whats CCC?
11:03 <@aestetix> A conference in Germany this month.
11:03 <@Shadow404> no Corydon76-dig always talks about his partners to the public
11:03 < Mercster> ahhh
11:04 <@aestetix> brb food
11:06 < Mercster> telegraphing, thats the word i was trying to think of
11:06 < Mercster> i think
11:06 < Mercster> telegraph the moves
11:06 < Mercster> course when yer trying to be technically correct i guess its not as easy to let totally loose
11:06 < Mercster> THEREIN LIES THE RUB OF COMPUTER NERDS DANCING
11:07 < Mercster> it's a middle wrapped in an enigma
11:07 < Mercster> middle?
11:07 < Mercster> riddle
11:07 < Mercster> a riddle is why i type so much
11:15 < eryc> aestetix: nice dance moves! lolz
11:17 < eryc> that 2nd vid of the ticket system is kinda cool
11:28 <@aestetix> Mmm.
11:28 <@aestetix> Just finished the mcdonalds
11:29 <@aestetix> let's see how long until I start to retch
11:29 < Mercster> pfft
11:29 < Mercster> any stone cold sucka that can pop and lock like that can handle some mcdonalds
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11:30 < Mercster> aestetix: you should learn to crump
11:30 <@aestetix> to crump??
11:30 <@aestetix> what's that
11:31 < Mercster> hah
11:31 < Mercster> oh man
11:31 < Mercster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEnl85bdGyE
11:31 < Mercster> just search youtube for 'crump' or 'crumping'
11:31 < Mercster> plenty
11:32 < Mercster> its what street kids mostly do now instead of breakdancing
11:32 < Mercster> similar in ways
11:32 < Mercster> more organic
11:32 < Mercster> more emotional
11:33 < Mercster> eh those are all kids
11:33 < Mercster> lemme find a good one
11:33 <@aestetix> Um.
11:33 <@aestetix> Wow.
11:33 <@aestetix> You know what that is?
11:33 < Mercster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhhXyBCnZ_M
11:33 < Mercster> much better example
11:33 <@aestetix> I should have seen this coming.
11:34 <@aestetix> Ok let me look at the second video before I cast judgement.
11:34 < Mercster> yeah that second one is good
11:35 <@aestetix> Nope, same thing.
11:35 <@aestetix> This looks identical to the kids who watched videos on how to dance on youtube, and started imitating them.
11:35 <@aestetix> You'll see there are elements of all the "rave" and "hip hop" dance forms in this, but they all lack a degree of finesse.
11:36 <@aestetix> Further, they are incorporating beginners mistakes into it.
11:36 <@aestetix> This is really fascinating actually.
11:36 < Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krump
11:36 < Mercster> theres some history
11:37 <@aestetix> This is cool
11:38 < Mercster> there's also a variant called 'klowning'
11:38 <@aestetix> Heh.
11:38 < Mercster> which is more aggressive, sometimes more skillful, and a little sillier since they dress up like clowns
11:38 <@Shadow404> i thought "klowning" was a particular fetish
11:38 < Mercster> basically the same stuf
11:38 < Mercster> but, you know, variations on a theme
11:39 < Mercster> i guess you could call it a syncretism between the older pop/lock/breakdancing with modern hiphop dancing
11:39 < Mercster> i like watching it
11:39 <@aestetix> Mercster: how familiar are you with poplocking?
11:39 < Mercster> when you see someone who's good...
11:39 < Mercster> its fuckin nuts
11:39 <@aestetix> With the culture, not the style.
11:39 < Mercster> aestetix: not intimately
11:40 <@aestetix> Ok.
11:40 < Mercster> the culture, none at all
11:41 < Mercster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9oTecZGdJQ "best of crump"
11:41 < Mercster> that's pretty good
11:41 <@aestetix> It's like... almost locking, but not quite.
11:41 < Mercster> prolly appreciate some of the technical stuff
11:42 < Mercster> yeah, it's certainly incorporated
11:42 < Mercster> ohhh damn
11:42 < Mercster> watch for guy in red hat on thatlast one
11:42 < Mercster> kickin up dust, son
11:42 <@aestetix> This is seriously like... a mix of locking and liquid.
11:43 < Mercster> CLAIMIN' DAT JESUS
11:44 < Mercster> oh here for you, poppin vs krumpin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epo44iIBcQM
11:44 < Mercster> dude in the red hat looks like sped up claymation
11:44 < Mercster> fuckin nuts
11:45 < Mercster> watching battle now
11:47 < Mercster> popping is more methodical, more controlled, more technical...i see krumping as more athletic, more emotive
11:48 < Mercster> more expressive
11:48 < Mercster> especially in terms of aggression
11:48 < Mercster> id rather watch krumping i think, but different strokes for different folks
11:49 < Mercster> popping consistently is probably harder
11:50 <@aestetix> It's really hard to pop well.
11:50 <@aestetix> And you can hurt yourself really easily.
11:50 <@aestetix> Especially popping your knees.
11:50 < Mercster> yea
11:51 < Mercster> the robotic stuff is cool
11:54 < Mercster> ooooh shit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Jq1xuXxX0
11:56 <@rhia>  reminds me of the stuff Chaplin and Keaton used to do for laughs
11:56 <@aestetix> rhia: very similar.
11:56 < Mercster> heh, yeah
11:57 < Mercster> common threads
11:57 < Mercster> assuming shapes a body probably shouldnt make
11:57 < Mercster> in the case of this stuff, in rapid succession
12:02 < Mercster> the graceful assumption of loss of control
12:02 < Mercster> im trying to find stuff about clowning but i cant, i know it exists
12:02 < Mercster> maybe not by than name
12:05 < Mercster> the awesome thing about the music is that the backbeat is often formed from 12 gauges ;-)
12:05 < Mercster> clowning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmVyG4ykLNY
12:06 < Mercster> clownin vs krump http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkx8aokQrFE
12:07 < Mercster> dont start nuttin, wont be nuttin
12:08 < Mercster> clowning looks derivitive but less aggressive, thus lame
12:15 < Mercster> c'z up, b'z down
12:15 < Mercster> aestetix: just promise you wont take up crip walking
12:33 <@Shadow404> is that where u wear baggy pants, that hand down to your knees and walk down the street, one hand on you nextel, one hand on your belt holding your pants up with your drawers hanging out?
12:33 <@Shadow404> if so, i see that every day in atlanta
12:34 < Mercster> nah
12:41 <@Shadow404> http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/political-pictures-simpson-vegas.jpg
12:41 <@Shadow404> lawl
12:42 < Mercster> free like oj all day
13:25 <@nachoguy> does anyone know if those usb to usb cables that you can use to plug two computers together to transfer files work under linux?
13:48 < Mercster> http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm
13:48 < Mercster> apparently some do
13:49 <@Catonic> I want to see aestetix crip walking
13:50 < Mercster> http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/EvaluationKits/USB-USBNullModem.htm
13:50 <@Catonic> Mercster: tae-bo vs krumpin?
13:52 < Mercster> tae-bo vs. jazzercize
13:54 <@Catonic> Mercster: what city is this?
13:54 < Mercster> ?
13:55 <@Catonic> clowning and krumping
13:56 < Mercster> all over
13:56 < Mercster> started on the west coast i think
13:56 < Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rize_(2005_film)
13:56 < Mercster> seek that film out
13:56 < Mercster> Rize is a documentary which follows an interview schedule of two related dancing sub-cultures of Los Angeles: clowning and krumping.
13:59 < Mercster> hmm, not on the usenets
14:00 < Mercster> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6401727599474326174
14:00 < Mercster> there you go
14:00 < Mercster> ill prolly watch that later too
14:01 <@aestetix> note to self: never, ever, ever, ever help create a framework ever again
14:01 < Mercster> what like rebar
14:01 <@aestetix> no its my day job
14:02 < Mercster> plenty of people make a day job out of rebar
14:08 < Mercster> sorry, im dead tired and becoming silly
14:13 <@Shadow404> smoke a j and go to bed
14:13 < Mercster> gotta wait till 6 or so
14:13 <@Shadow404> why?
14:14 <@Shadow404> dealer doesnt make his rounds till 6 or something/
14:15 < Mercster> my mom is dropping something by for me after she gets off work
14:15 <@Shadow404> ah
14:16 < Mercster> plus i dont really feel like passing out at 3pm
14:17 < Mercster> there's a fine line between passing out at the point of exhaustion and dying like that kid at the internet cafe
14:17 < Mercster> i walk the line
14:21 <@Shadow404> some kid at an internet cafe died because of exhaustion? or to many caffiene drinks caused palapations
14:21 < Mercster> probably both...you hadnt heard of that? i think it was south korea or some shit
14:21 <@Shadow404> lawl
14:21 <@Shadow404> poor kid
14:21 < Mercster> a kid sat in an internet cafe playing starcraft for 50 hours
14:21 < Mercster> then keeled over
14:21 < Mercster> right there
14:22 <@Shadow404> awesome
14:22 < Mercster> yeah
14:22 < Mercster> lemme find it
14:22 < Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Seung_Seop
14:22 < Mercster> On August 3, 2005, he achieved global notoriety when he visited a nearby Internet cafe and proceeded to play StarCraft for almost fifty consecutive hours. Ultimately, from both exhaustion and dehydration induced heart failure he went into cardiac arrest.
14:23 -!- nated0g_wrk [i=nated0g@river191.bigriver.net] has joined #se2600
14:23 < nated0g_wrk> afternoon !
14:23 <@Shadow404> thats halarious
14:24 < nated0g_wrk> what have i missed?
14:26 < Mercster> nated0g_wrk: aestetix is going to krump at the next phreaknic
14:26 < nated0g_wrk> ok
14:26 < nated0g_wrk> never liked him anyway
14:26 < Mercster> good answer..
14:27 <@Shadow404> yeh, hes a huge elephant sized douche
14:28 < nated0g_wrk> wtf..i just googled krump
14:28 < nated0g_wrk> youtube had the answer...
14:28 <@I-MOD> that's never a good sign
14:45 <@aestetix> What?
14:47 < Mercster> youtubing having an answer
14:56 < nated0g_wrk> never heard of krump
14:57 <@aestetix> it's a dance form
14:57 < Mercster> a wise man once said "If you just learned something from youtube, congratulations, yer a REAL ASSHOLE."
14:58 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has left #se2600 ["Leaving"]
14:58 < Mercster> aestetix: did you see the google video link to that documentary on krumping?
14:58 <@aestetix> Rize?
14:58 < Mercster> yeah
14:58 <@aestetix> No, I didn't, I may check it out later.
14:58 <@aestetix> actually
14:58 <@aestetix> msg that to me
15:00 <@aestetix> thanks
15:00 < Mercster> yup
15:02 < nated0g_wrk> then i must be a real asshole. cuz i never heard of krumping. i thought it was just a misspelling
15:02 < nated0g_wrk> i dont want BET, and it looked like it was a ethnic thing
15:03 < Mercster> i was just kidding
15:03 < Mercster> i just kind of have a cynical view of youtube
15:04 < Mercster> mostly dumb
15:04 < Mercster> ive gotten enjoyment out of it tho
15:04 < Mercster> just mainly not the "vlog" crap
15:04 < Mercster> i cant stand watching someone's big fat fucking face right up in the camera
15:04 < Mercster> blathering
15:04 < Mercster> about some bullshit
15:05 < Mercster> like me on irc
15:05 < Mercster> if anyone's gonna blather about bullshit it'll be me
15:05 < Mercster> and i dont subject anyone to my misshappen mug while i do it
15:06 < Mercster> it's like the horrors of myspace multiplied by 10
15:06 < Mercster> but then there's news ladies getting shit on and stuff
15:06 < Mercster> which is pretty good
15:06 < Mercster> or funny commercials
15:07 < Mercster> "I know, ill climb underneath this horse for a news segment" *PPPTHHHBBBT*
15:07 < Mercster> haha, or news bloopers, i like watching the clips where they show news anchors getting mad at each other and cussing on live air
15:07 < Mercster> ppl losing their cool
15:08 < Mercster> that never gets old
15:09 < Mercster> or crazy preachers
15:09 < Mercster> like the cussing preacher
15:09 < Mercster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgvv-Hj62H0
15:09 < Mercster> check that out for a laugh
15:09 < Mercster> he's great
15:09 < Mercster> if you're at work, turn down the audio
15:10 < Mercster> ;-)
15:10 < Mercster> ARE YA LAUGHIN BIATCH
15:10 < Mercster> I come in the name of Jesus, repeat after me bitch!
15:10 < Mercster> Ill give ya some scripturez
15:11 < Mercster> YEYEAH
15:11 < Mercster> mufucka i aint lookin fo you!
15:11 < Mercster> whatchoo know about tha Lord?
15:12 < Mercster> i was saved by this man in 1989
15:12 < Mercster> rofl
15:12 < Mercster> you fucked up, huh!?
15:13 < Mercster> you caint see me, house niggaz
15:13 < Mercster> YA THA DEVIL
15:13 < Mercster> s/YA/YOU
15:14 -!- Mercster was kicked from #se2600 by Dolemite [enough blathering]
15:14 -!- Mercster [n=merc@c-68-47-162-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600
15:14 < Mercster> Dolemite: you cant stop the spirit of truth!
15:14 <@Dolemite> No, but I can certainly kick you repeatedly
15:15 < Mercster> wuz happenin
15:15 <@Dolemite> just finishing up the day
15:15 <@Dolemite> did my last mid-year eval this afternoon for my staff
15:15 < Mercster> did you leverage the team's collective skill set
15:16 < Mercster> for great synergy
15:16 <@Dolemite> no, I'm not a buzzword bingo player
15:17 < Mercster> how can you effectively communicate goals without formalizing the language of business process
15:17 < Mercster> (correct answer: beatings)
15:18 <@Dolemite> I don't beat them.  I simply verbally abuse them.  Leaves no marks.
15:19 < Mercster> ahh yes, crush their spirits
15:19 < Mercster> what pride in a job well done cannot accomplish, despair can
15:20 < Mercster> my poor mom, she's almost to retiring age, but she works herself to the bone and is always afraid of being fired
15:20 < Mercster> her company is a bunch of real fucktards
15:20 < Mercster> fear greases the wheels of that industry more than anything else, i think
15:21 < Mercster> btw it's kimberly-clark
15:21 < Mercster> maker of huggies and kleenex
15:21 < Mercster> dont buy that shit
15:21 <@Dolemite> We're a Puff's and Pampers household
15:21 < Mercster> good man
15:21 < nated0g_wrk> you need less caffeine
15:22 < Mercster> YOU THA DEVIL
15:22 <@Dolemite> s/caffeine/free time
15:22 < Mercster> i am desperate for human contact
15:22 <@Dolemite> call a hooker
15:22 < Mercster> dirty :(
15:22 < Mercster> besides, im wholesome
15:23 <@Dolemite> ok, then call an escort
15:23 < Mercster> i just want to feel accepted
15:23 < Mercster> PLEASE LIKE ME
15:23 <@Dolemite> we accept nobody
15:23 < Mercster> yea, i was kidding
15:23 < Mercster> if you accepted ppl you'd be lame
15:23 < Mercster> and i wouldnt be here
15:23 <@Dolemite> nated0g : I'll be in your neck of the woods this weekend...  going to Tunica!
15:24 < Mercster> last couple days ive been on a...oh...a jag?
15:24 <@aestetix> Mercster: you have to step inside the love van first
15:24 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig is driving
15:25 < Mercster> but, my butthole...:(
15:25 < nated0g_wrk> you should call or email brandon
15:25 < Mercster> fuck him
15:25 < Mercster> j/k
15:25 < Mercster> who's brandon
15:25 < nated0g_wrk> was talking to dole
15:25 < Mercster> oh
15:25  * Mercster crawls back to his corner
15:26 <@Corydon76-dig> C'mon back, Mercster.  I have a 12" dildo with your name on it.
15:26 <@Dolemite> nated0g_wrk : Genphlux like to visit Tunica, I take it?
15:26 <@aestetix> Is he one of the 17 year olds?
15:26 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: you are a filthy filthy lady
15:27 <@aestetix> Mercster: but one that looks good in pants.
15:27 <@Dolemite> That's no lady
15:27 < Mercster> when im in the shower this evening, scrubbing down my ashy nipples, i will pray you find cleanliness yourself
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> This evening, I'm praying I get some
15:28  * aestetix passes the brainbleach around
15:28 < Mercster> dont you live with a manwhore?
15:28 < Mercster> what are the odds, 80%?
15:28 < Mercster> 85%?
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> more like 10%
15:28 <@Shadow404> hes engaged
15:28 < Mercster> you gays love to go at it, dont lie
15:28 < Mercster> first chance you get, it's on
15:28 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: you live with Shadow404?
15:28 < Mercster> aestetix: lerl
15:29 <@Shadow404> aestetix: no, hell no
15:29 <@Corydon76-dig> I love to go at it, but he has to stretch out, first.
15:29 < Mercster> Shadow404: oh no he didnt
15:29 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm kinda big
15:29 <@aestetix> Shadow404: did you get the idea from ware and timoguin?
15:29 <@Shadow404> cause i have a .40 call with a bullet that has his name on it
15:29 < Mercster> eeeek
15:29 <@Shadow404> *.40 cal
15:29 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: 12 inches?
15:29 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: Not that long, but I'm much thicker than average
15:30 < Mercster> Shadow404: being a southern boy, ive always favored the humble shotgun as a hunting implement / taker of men's souls
15:30  * Mercster coughs
15:30 <@Shadow404> i have one of those two, but the handgun is much closer within reach
15:30 < Mercster> we're going down a bad path...
15:30 <@aestetix> Mercster: welcome to se2600
15:30 < Mercster> Shadow404: true
15:30 < Mercster> aestetix: #se2600: land of a thousand bad paths
15:31 <@aestetix> Mercster: that sounds eerily like something from Arabian Nights
15:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow's shotgun is in closer reach than his dick?
15:31 < Mercster> aestetix: well, yea, i wrote arabian nights
15:31 < Mercster> back before the war
15:31 <@Shadow404> one in the same, double barreled too
15:33 <@Corydon76-dig> double barreled dick?
15:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Must've been a painful piercing
15:34 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : That's just the microscope being out of focus
15:34 <@Shadow404> lawl, you really dug for that joke
15:34 <@Shadow404> ill have to give you a point for creativity
15:35 < Mercster> desperation breeds innovation
15:38 <@Shadow404> i think that was the goal behind the date rape drug
15:38 < Mercster> sounds plausible
15:39 < Mercster> then again, i havent slept in two days; anything sounds plausible
15:43 < Mercster> ./msg Corydon76-dig uhm, sure, ill come over and help you reach something on the high shelf in your bedroom
15:43 < Mercster> er
15:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: were you expecting to get 'fed'?
15:44 < Mercster> you said you had some polish sausage...?
15:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Nah, German sausage
15:45 < Mercster> i dont know why we wouldnt fill our glistening naked bellies with meat after some hard, sweaty work
15:45 < Mercster> it seems natural
15:45 <@Corydon76-dig> It's thicker and more dense
15:45 < Mercster> ill chip a tooth
15:45 <@Dolemite> and on that note
15:45 <@Corydon76-dig> That's why you need to swallow it whole
15:46 < Mercster> byyeee!
15:46 <@aestetix> http://aestetix.livejournal.com/229902.html
15:46 <@aestetix> god that image is disturbing
15:46 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: ok it worked, he's gone, STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME GAY
15:46 < Mercster> aestetix: good movie actually, ever seen it?
15:46 <@aestetix> Which?
15:46 < Mercster> i only see one box
15:46 < Mercster> hmm
15:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: There is no try.  Do.  Or do not.
15:47 <@aestetix> shit
15:47 < Mercster> your html has failed us all
15:47 < Mercster> aestetix: gandhi is a good movie ;)
15:47 < Mercster> i cant speak for whatever horror you meant to put beside it
15:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: in seven days, you will see the Hole...
15:48 <@aestetix> Mercster: try now
15:49 < Mercster> aestetix: ugh
15:49 <@aestetix> hahahha
15:49 < Mercster> aestetix: yea pretty revolting
15:49 <@aestetix> And yet, safe for work!
15:49 < Mercster> isnt "female trouble" a euphemism for menses
15:50 < Mercster> see how i just made it worse for you
15:50 <@aestetix> And nobody does it better than John Waters
15:50 < Mercster> yeah
15:50 <@Shadow404> that fucking douchbag
15:50 < Mercster> i dont do camp
15:50 <@Shadow404> i have his number and address
15:50 < Mercster> dont get it
15:50 < Mercster> dont think its cute
15:50 < Mercster> dont enjoy it
15:50 <@aestetix> Shadow404: let me guess. baltimore, maryland?
15:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381250/
15:50 <@Shadow404> ok i dont think the same john waters
15:50 < Mercster> now stupid, i love stupid. but not camp.
15:51 < Mercster> Shadow404: haha
15:51 < Mercster> who the fuck confuses john waters ;)
15:51 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: wow
15:51 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: heh
15:51 < Mercster> thats making fun of...oh i forget
15:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: I have the DVD, in case you want to watch it with me
15:51 < Mercster> i dont watch horror movies
15:51 <@Shadow404> oh, not the same guy
15:51 <@Shadow404> http://www.ajc.com/gwinnett/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2008/12/04/murphy_dog_hammer.html
15:51 < Mercster> but i know what movie
15:51 <@Shadow404> is who i was talking about
15:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: it's making fun of The Ring
15:52 <@Shadow404> ah, joe waters is who im talking about, not john waters
15:52 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: ohhh yeah. they coulda kept that title, really
15:52 < Mercster> Shadow404: lame
15:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: you'll find that that tends to be a distinguishing attribute of Shadow404
15:53 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: i was referencing the dog abuser, you ass
15:53 <@Shadow404> thank you Mercster
15:53 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: does Shadow404 make a good bottom?
15:53 < Mercster> haha
15:54 <@Shadow404> Mercster: 1469 brawley circle, 30319-1710, #678-547-1514 - Joe Waters
15:54 <@Shadow404> give him your worst
15:54 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: Unfortunately, he has no ass to speak of
15:54 <@Shadow404> lives/registered to live with his parents still
15:54 < Mercster> Shadow404: he'll meet his maker soon enough, and God doesnt like those who abuse animals
15:54 < Mercster> i dont need to do anything to him
15:54 < Mercster> but if someone does it in my presence, they'll with they hadnt
15:55 <@aestetix> God loves John Waters movies though
15:55 < Mercster> i hope God has a better sense of humor than that
15:55 < Mercster> that'd be lame
15:55 < Mercster> get to heaven
15:55 < Mercster> "Hey Greg, let's watch Army of Darkness!"
15:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: Sordid Lives
15:55 < Mercster> *uuggggghhhhh*
15:55 <@aestetix> Would God eat a steak after a tranny shoved it in her underwear and went around town doing errands all day?
15:56 < Mercster> aestetix: i didnt mention God in passing so you could try to offend me enough into getting all flustered, calm down
15:56 < Mercster> it was just a statement, ppl who are cruel to animals will get it in the end
15:56 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: who?
15:58 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204640/
15:58 < Mercster> never heard of it
15:58 < Mercster> olivia newton john
15:58 < Mercster> heh
15:58 < Mercster> weird
15:59 < Mercster> remember when she was hot
15:59 <@aestetix> Mercster: have we met? :)
15:59 < Mercster> well, you dont
15:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Friggin' hilarious
15:59 < Mercster> you other guys remember when she was hot?
15:59 < Mercster> aestetix: you were always respectful
15:59 <@aestetix> Mercster: see, what your statement really boils down to, is "Is God relevant?"
16:00 < Mercster> aestetix: well if you believe not, you can go beat the guy's ass :)
16:00 <@aestetix> And you can choose to answer that and turn this into a three hour discussion, or ignore it and let the gay poo poo jokes keep going :)
16:00 < Mercster> im not gonna argue with ya
16:00 < Mercster> aestetix: dude, ive been up for 2 days, the poo will continue to flow
16:00 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: dammit, of course I'm relevant
16:00 < Mercster> you wanna have it out about God later, im all for it
16:00 < Mercster> not tonight
16:00 <@aestetix> Mercster: been there, done that, got the tshirt, sold it to your mom for sex.
16:01 < Mercster> see that's just about the only other thing that'll get me riled ;) you dont know my mom and what she's been thru
16:01 < Mercster> listen, you've met me
16:01 < Mercster> there's plenty of material here
16:01 < Mercster> crack on -me-
16:01 <@aestetix> Welcome to se2600 :)
16:01 < Mercster> well, you can choose to go below the belt
16:01 < Mercster> but remember
16:01 < Mercster> i have been welcomed to #se2600
16:02 < Mercster> and you will be welcomed to the tip of my verbal boot
16:02 < Mercster> right in yer ass
16:02 < Mercster> when im in my right mind
16:02 <@Corydon76-dig> I usually go below the belt.  It's my favorite part to suck on
16:02 < Mercster> YOU'RE ONLY MAKING IT WORSE FOR YOURSELF
16:02 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: you are a dirty lady
16:02 <@aestetix> Is this the hand of God coming down upon me?
16:02  * aestetix spreads his legs and throws some money in the hat.
16:02 < Mercster> no, just my keen insight and brilliant rhetoric
16:02 < Mercster> with enough insults along the way to make you feel bad about yourself
16:03 <@Drag0n> mercster, what happens when your in your left mind?
16:03 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: No, the mouth of God
16:03 < Mercster> Drag0n: diarrhea :(
16:03 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: even better.
16:03 <@aestetix> Oh wait.
16:03 <@Drag0n> 2 merc's one cup?
16:03 < Mercster> Drag0n: actually right now, my brain feels like a large roofie
16:03 < Mercster> like, the whole thing
16:03 <@aestetix> 2 Mercsters 1 God
16:03 < Mercster> im not under the influence of a hypnotic narcotic, my brain is one
16:03 <@aestetix> Now *that* is a gift from heaven
16:04 <@Drag0n> i have met roofie, he's one big mofo
16:04 < Mercster> aestetix: there's only so much of me to go around :/
16:04 <@aestetix> Wait, I got an philosophical question
16:04 <@aestetix> Is it possible to have balls so big God can't suckle them?
16:04 < Mercster> let 'er rip, sally
16:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Usually, guys say 'there's enough of me to go around'
16:04 < Mercster> i know it's a troll before you say it ;)
16:05 < Mercster> and if it isnt, i still cant care enough of a damn this evening
16:05 <@aestetix> Throw in a little rhetorical 101 on ya
16:05 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: im not like the other guys
16:05 < Mercster> im...special
16:06 < Mercster> i.e. my dick is little
16:06  * Corydon76-dig sends a short bus to pick up Mercster 
16:06 < Mercster> weird
16:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Pics or shens
16:06 < Mercster> i think my cat just sat on something electronic that made a noise
16:06 <@aestetix> Makes me wish I still had that domain name
16:06 < Mercster> damn you cat
16:06 < Mercster> STOP STARING AT ME
16:06 < Mercster> my cat is plotting to drive me insane
16:07 <@Corydon76-dig> No, it just wants your cock
16:07 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: i keep hearing pics or "shens", whats "shens"?
16:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Shenanigans
16:07 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: in my circle we say "pics or bullshit"
16:07 <@aestetix> Hmm.
16:07 < Mercster> ohhh, right
16:07 < Mercster> ok
16:07 <@aestetix> Is sex with animals abuse if the animal consents?
16:07 < Mercster> you guys are too savvy for me
16:07 <@Drag0n> how does the animal consent? do you speak horse?
16:07 < Mercster> aestetix: now there's a line of consideration more up your personal alley, im sure
16:08 <@aestetix> Hey, you're the one from the south.
16:08 <@Drag0n> can he/she make a signature?
16:08 <@Drag0n> right, family can consent
16:08 < Mercster> aestetix: right, our sisters fuck us, we dont have to turn to the animals
16:08 < Mercster> aestetix: that's more out west shit
16:08 < Mercster> steers and queers and whatnot
16:08 < Mercster> this is tennessee, not texas
16:08 <@aestetix> Same difference. It falls into the "Not New York" part of the map for me.
16:08 < Mercster> heh ;)
16:09 <@Drag0n> does bessie moo in a suggestive manner?
16:09 < Mercster> aestetix: you should get out and see some of america, there are many flavors of wrong going on
16:09 <@aestetix> Mercster: I've actually seen most of it.
16:09 < Mercster> aestetix: nod
16:09 <@Drag0n> yep, a lot of em are just down the coast from him in D.C.
16:09 <@aestetix> Drag0n: it's easier for me to list off the states I *haven't* been to.
16:10 <@Drag0n> hehe
16:10 < Mercster> aestetix: i wouldnt mind seeing up north where you are. ive been midwest. i have no inclination to see the west coast, until maybe id seen a lot of other shit and dont have anything else on the list
16:10 < Mercster> im pretty sure the west coast gives me the creeps
16:10 <@Drag0n> any of them you know looking for network/systems engineers that are worth living in?
16:10 <@aestetix> Drag0n: DC, NYC, and San Francisco.
16:11 <@Drag0n> about the only place on the west coast i want to go is washington or vancouver
16:11 <@Evilpig> anyone.  cisco IOS.  conf t to enter config mode.  int vlan 7 to enter interface config for the vlan.  no shutdown should bring it up right?
16:11 <@Drag0n> i said worth living in
16:11 < Mercster> Drag0n: it's mainly the teeming hippies i want to stay away from
16:12 <@Drag0n> vlan will be up, but you still need to assign it to an interface for that vlan to exist on
16:12 <@Evilpig> I have given it an IP.  and ahve a ports in trunk mode for it to live in
16:12 <@Evilpig> but it isn't coming online
16:12 < Mercster> i could probably deal with the hippy-types id meet in BC cuz there's so much good weed
16:12 <@Evilpig> Vlan7 is down, line protocol is down
16:12 <@Drag0n> is this a router or a switch?
16:13 <@Evilpig> switch
16:13 < Mercster> further south they want you to bond over starbucks and organic bean sprouts
16:13 < Mercster> and that shit dont give you no kinda buzz at all
16:13 <@Drag0n> go into the interface and assign the vlans you want to pass over that trunk, otherwise, it doesnt have any interfaces for it to bind to
16:14 <@Drag0n> no interfaces, no line protocols
16:14 < Mercster> i learned i didnt want to be a net admin when i was about 17, typed 'ifconfig' with no arguments into a bayes network piece of shit, and it took down every interface in the thing
16:14 < Mercster> little company, wasnt a huge deal, but stupid
16:14 <@Drag0n> what mode to you have the vlan management set to? server, client? or auto?
16:15 <@Evilpig> I would assume auto
16:15 <@Drag0n> need to make sure all seitches are configured to the same domain and yo assign a domain server, otherwise vlan configs on one will override vlans on the others
16:16 <@Drag0n> switches
16:16 <@Evilpig> only one switch here right now
16:16 <@Drag0n> pig, you looking for a cisco person for the holidays? or longer?
16:16 <@Evilpig> but I have all my other switches setup to pass configs
16:16 <@Evilpig> Having to backtrack the work I did at the other offices here for likea week or two deal til my main switch gets in place then it should just work
16:17 <@Evilpig> any other time I have done this command it just worked this time it's being a bitch
16:17 < Mercster> heh
16:17 < Mercster> Drag0n ;-)
16:17 < Mercster> momma didnt raise no fool
16:18 < Mercster> "ohh well you attach the...the...wait...having trouble are you? im available"
16:18 <@Evilpig> I see the difference between the ones that work and this one.
16:18 <@Drag0n> you need to config t > interface fe0/1 > switchport access vlan #
16:19 <@Drag0n> merc, when you have been out of work for 3 months and not sure you will make next months rent, you get VERY mercenary
16:19 <@Drag0n> sorry, vlan modes, client, server, transparent
16:20 < Mercster> Drag0n: i hear ya, no harm in that
16:20 < Mercster> Drag0n: you have trouble finding cisco work?
16:20 < Mercster> (I wouldnt know, ive been out of work for awhile, and even then wouldnt know the state of net admins)
16:21 <@Drag0n> right now, im having trouble finding ANY work, job markets ALWAYS a bitch end of nov - mid jan
16:21 < Mercster> nod
16:21 < Mercster> well good luck
16:21 <@Drag0n> i do Cisco, linux, and windows
16:21 < Mercster> life's a bitch, just keep kickin her in the ass
16:21 <@Drag0n> if life were a bitch, it would be easy, life's a virgin
16:21 < Mercster> Drag0n: i was always more of just a systems guy, big iron, unix enterprisey crap
16:22 < Mercster> i tried to find jobs in companies that had large and knowledgable network groups so i wouldnt have to deal with it ;-)
16:22 < Mercster> see that's going for gold in life...avoiding knowledge
16:22 <@Drag0n> yeah, would love to find one, but right now i need ANYTHING
16:23 < Mercster> nod
16:23 <@Drag0n> thats leagal
16:23 < Mercster> heh
16:23 < Mercster> some of the companies ive worked for prolly shouldnt have been ;-)
16:23 < Mercster> ive worked for a couple of telemarketers before
16:23 < Mercster> big bad ones, hiring thousands of people to call you while you're eating dinner
16:24 <@Drag0n> yeah, worked for one of those breifly, was a toxic environment, physicaly and emotionaly
16:24 < Mercster> Drag0n: wasnt too bad really, the ppl were ok (the tech ppl anyway)...but we would joke about how evil we were
16:24 < Mercster> Drag0n: course not long after i left, they went under in large part due to the no-call legislation
16:24 < Mercster> and they were a pretty big place, too
16:25 < Mercster> i think they may still exist as some shell of their former glory
16:26 <@Drag0n> the entire IT department, (both of us) were in a closet in the center of the building with no windows and 2 cameras watching us, that we shared with all the current IT hardware. The company CEO would not part with anything. We still had 8086's in the basement he kept trying to get us to reuse
16:26 < Mercster> Drag0n: hah
16:26 <@Drag0n> any purchase over $500 required his approval
16:26 < Mercster> Drag0n: ya know i worked somewhere similarly, me and one other guy in a tiny room, right between the offices of the pres and vice pres (son and father respectively)
16:26 < Mercster> Drag0n: they were a cigar/tobacco wholesaler
16:27 < Mercster> that was my first real admin job actually
16:27 < Mercster> 2 linux boxes and a few websites
16:27 < Mercster> helped with the LAN a bit
16:27 < Mercster> the cool thing about that gig, as sleazy as it was, is we could smoke in the office
16:27 < Mercster> and shit, at 19, that was the coolest fucking thing ever
16:27 < Mercster> sit there hacking linux for money while smoking
16:27 <@sdodson> hi
16:27 <@Drag0n> hehe, i dont smoke or drink, so thats not a plus for me
16:27 < Mercster> hi there sdodson
16:27 < Mercster> Drag0n: i hear ya
16:28 <@Drag0n> i would love to get a network/server admin job at a major game company, computer games and such
16:29 <@sdodson> Drag0n: tgik just started at mythic doing such
16:29 < Mercster> yeah, i guess. much in demand. ill tell you where i always wanted to work, at a university
16:29 <@sdodson> he's terribly overpaid
16:29 <@sdodson> does nothing all day but play games
16:29 < Mercster> sdodson: ooh yea mythic is in a decent place right now
16:29 < Mercster> bet that's nice
16:29 <@Drag0n> he looking for an assistant?
16:29 < Mercster> sdodson: where they homed?
16:29 <@sdodson> Mercster: fairfax
16:29 < Mercster> nod
16:29 <@sdodson> Drag0n: don't know
16:30 < Mercster> Drag0n: where you at? i bet if you got yer ass up to VA or around DC you could find something relatively easy
16:30 < Mercster> maybe not something perfect
16:30 < eryc> orly i live near fairfax
16:30 < Mercster> but shit man, ppl are always putting up ciscos
16:30 <@sdodson> eryc: wtf i thought you were in california?
16:30 < eryc> i want to play games all day
16:30 < Mercster> it's like a constant of the universe
16:30 <@Drag0n> im precluded from government and finance jobs
16:30 < Mercster> sdodson: insidious lies
16:30 <@sdodson> Mercster: wahat???
16:30 < Mercster> Drag0n: yea, cocaine's a hell of a drug..
16:30 < eryc> i moved to VA on july 1
16:31 < Mercster> sdodson: im calling an eryc a liar, but i dont really know
16:31 <@Drag0n> no, questionable background
16:31 < Mercster> im just trying to start a fight
16:31 < Mercster> Drag0n: well, ok
16:31 < Mercster> Drag0n: not everyone up there is contracting, its just a dense population center, ya know
16:31 <@sdodson> Drag0n: what's your e-mail address?
16:31 < Mercster> prolly denser than where you are
16:31 <@Drag0n> dragon@atlantacon.org
16:32 < Mercster> makin MOVES baby
16:33 <@sdodson> Drag0n: whoosh IM'd him
16:36 < Mercster> Drag0n's a real up and coming networker
16:36 < Mercster> he's got that fire in his belly
16:36 < Mercster> you can tell
16:36 <@Drag0n> thats not fire, its ulcers forom lack of food <g>
16:36 < Mercster> haha :)
16:36 <@Drag0n> from
16:39 <@sdodson> eryc: WHY does it take 30 minutes to uninstall cluster software on my sun bawx??
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16:40 < Mercster> they dont call it slowlaris for nuthin
16:40 <@Drag0n> oh, sdodson, i also submitted for a position at redhat, a security position
16:41 < Mercster> Drag0n: be careful, there..
16:41 <@Drag0n> considering im an RHCE, i think i know what im getting into
16:41 < Mercster> ... do you know the corporate culture at redhat?
16:41 < Mercster> im not saying you couldnt hack it
16:41 <@sdodson> Mercster: what's it like?
16:42 < Mercster> i dont know personally, i just have friends that work there.  it is ahh...less than stellar?
16:42 <@Drag0n> i have worked in much worse
16:42 < Mercster> ive heard it called 'poisonous'
16:42 < Mercster> not a lot of fun
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16:43 <@sdodson> Mercster: what do they do?
16:43 < Mercster> but hell i had an interview there once, damnit if i hadnt just accepted another job
16:43 < Mercster> sdodson: redhat?  sell software
16:43 <@sdodson> Mercster: your friends
16:43 < Mercster> sdodson: ixnay on the iendsfray
16:44 <@sdodson> ahw whay?
16:44 < Mercster> im not trying to sling shit, was just making a comment, it doesnt have a stellar reputation as a fulfilling and supportive work environment
16:44 < Mercster> perhaps my friends are assholes
16:44 < Mercster> take it for what its worth ;)
16:45 < Mercster> ill tell a story in a bit maybe
16:45 < Mercster> waiting on company atm
16:45  * sdodson sits down for story time
16:45 < Mercster> sdodson: you work there, dont you
16:45 < Mercster> ;-)
16:45 <@sdodson> Mercster: I forgot.
16:46 < Mercster> hey, they make a good product
16:47 < Mercster> and im sure there's plenty of interesting shit that goes on
16:47 < Mercster> id take a crack at it
16:47 < Mercster> i aint scurred
16:48 <@sdodson> I'm interested in what the complaints were though.
16:49 < Mercster> i axctually used to have quite a bit of contact with donnie barnes (he wasnt one of the ones complaining)
16:49 < Mercster> though there was some bad blood there
16:49 < Mercster> as i understand it
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16:49 < Mercster> i just know some lowly techs
16:50 <@Drag0n> sdodson, you have any pull with the hr droids reguarding hiring? <g>
16:50 <@sdodson> No, I can't even get people in for reqs i have
16:50 <@Drag0n> ahh, k
16:51 <@sdodson> I think HR is super busy
16:51 < Mercster> sdodson: the regular stuff...poisonous environment, inappropriate competition, under the table political crap. nothing specifically scandalous, just not ahh, "perfect". ineffectual management
16:51 < Mercster> backbiting
16:52 < Mercster> an atmosphere of subtle fear and loathing
16:52 < Mercster> what keeps many businesses making money ;-)
16:52 < Mercster> this was years ago, anyway
16:52 < Mercster> i still know some ppl there but havent heard stuff like that for awhile
16:52 < Mercster> maybe ~8 years back
16:54 <@sdodson> Mercster: wow that's an eternity
16:55 <@Evilpig> Drag0n: thx.  vlan database > vlan 7   was what I needed .  and if I needed a full time cisco guy for a while i'd love to hire you.  unfortunately the pay here sucks and I am really needing a novell person
16:56 < eryc> sdodson: sun cluster was pretty aweful last i tried it.
16:56 < Mercster> sdodson: shit changes. and as i said, im willing to entertain the possibility that the few disgruntled people i heard complaining were the true assholes. i wasnt there *shrug*
16:56 < Mercster> sdodson: bullshit goes a long way on the interwebs
16:56 <@Drag0n> well, it pays better than my current job <g> and novel sucks, migrate off netware
16:57 < Mercster> still, it was enough to make me a little glad i got that other job like, the day before i was called in to interview
16:57 < Mercster> and of course as a kid who had run linux since 1995 and saw redhat come up and then become a viable business, it was a lot of people's dreams to work there
16:58 <@sdodson> If it was in support 8 years ago that means it was like 3 people
16:58 <@Evilpig> well your skills would actually be useful with netware right now.  migrating to novell services on a suse server
16:58 <@Drag0n> ewww, hehe
16:58 <@sdodson> One day you'll get off that sinking ship.
16:58 <@Evilpig> gimme nss over any other network storage ANY day
16:59 <@sdodson> Dear Novell, Licensing shit is not the way towards interoperability. --Love sdodson
17:03 < eryc> Dear sdodson, At least we don't wear silly hats. --Love Novell
17:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Dear RedHat, Breaking shit in every open source release is not the way towards success. --love Corydon
17:04 <@Evilpig> Dear #se2600,  bite me.  --anon
17:04 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: what u mean?
17:04 <@Evilpig> time to head home
17:05 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: we've stopped targetting Fedora because of the intense brokenness that occurs on every release
17:05 <@sdodson> Targetting Fedora for what?
17:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Pre-built binaries
17:05 <@sdodson> Of what?
17:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Asterisk
17:05 <@Evilpig> ass trick
17:05 <@sdodson> Well ya, that's fucking stupid.
17:05 <@sdodson> Lets target this server program for an OS that has a one year lifespan.
17:06 <@Corydon76-dig> It's stupid to put out binaries for which we offer support?
17:06 <@sdodson> Target RHEL/Centos and rebase once every 2-3 years.
17:06 <@Corydon76-dig> CentOS is what we're targetting now.
17:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, one of the platforms, anyway
17:07 <@sdodson> Good.
17:07 <@Corydon76-dig> along with suse and ubuntu
17:07 < Mercster> ooooooooook
17:08  * Mercster cracks a beer open
17:08 <@sdodson> ubuntu doesn't break?
17:08 < Mercster> sdodson: lol
17:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Not as badly as Fedora
17:08 <@sdodson> And in what ways do we break?
17:08 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: funny, i had to run fedora instead of ubuntu about a year ago because not even noapic/etc/etc would save ubuntu's shipping kernel on my hardware
17:08 <@Corydon76-dig> C level library incompatibilities
17:08 < Mercster> and fedora squeaked by
17:09 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: ? you talking biarch?
17:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: dunno what your issue was, so I really can't comment on it
17:10 < Mercster> it was something to do with incorrectly spec'd APIC tables in 64bit AMD cpus
17:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
17:10 < Mercster> linux as a whole was shitty for awhile regarding it
17:10 < Mercster> but ubuntu's kernel _would not go_
17:10 < Mercster> not even with all the kludges
17:10 <@sdodson> Oh, well as the maintainers of libc everyone else just sort of follows.
17:11 < Mercster> i havent heard of libc issues for awhile, not in major releases anyway
17:11 < Mercster> what was the latest fiasco, 2.4
17:11 < Mercster> glibc
17:14 < Mercster> we've had much more wonderous fuckups since glibc has been a concern, like how bad kde is
17:15 < Mercster> sdodson: you know what i heard the other day? somehow ximian is still alive
17:16 <@sdodson> Novell owns them
17:16 < Mercster> yeah, i knew that, i was trying to ride on nat and miguel's coattails into a job there when they got bought
17:16 < Mercster> but that was...an eternity
17:16 < Mercster> wtf is ximian doing
17:16 <@sdodson> Ya, so ubuntu tracks an old version of glibc so you probably won't see any problems.
17:17 <@sdodson> what do yo umean by they're still around?
17:17 < Mercster> they're still some sort of entity within the company
17:18 < Mercster> i didnt even know de icaza was still there
17:18 < Mercster> it sort of amazes me
17:18 <@sdodson> Didn't nat leave?
17:19 < Mercster> i dont know
17:19 <@sdodson> I think Miguel is pretty critical of Novell's involvement with MSFT, no?
17:19 < Mercster> but, you know
17:19 < Mercster> the whole novell/ximian plan was to take over the universe
17:19 < Mercster> which was a noble goal
17:19 < Mercster> but it kinda didnt turn into anything
17:20 < Mercster> yeah i think he felt stabbed in the back
17:20 < Mercster> after...ushering MS tech in
17:20  * Mercster shrugs
17:21 < Synx_hm> i need to learn how to tie a sick ass tie quick!
17:21 < Synx_hm> oh and fold a pocket square
17:22 < Mercster> didnt zenworks start out as redcarpet?
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17:23 < Mercster> Synx_hm: just wear an ascott
17:23 < Mercster> they're back in
17:23 < Synx_hm> werd
17:27 < Mercster> ZENworks is designed around the concept of the "digital persona" introduced by Novell CEO Eric Schmidt at COMDEX/Fall '97
17:27 < Mercster> :-/
17:28 < Mercster> enterprise wallpaper management
17:29 < Mercster> SuSE was kinda cool
17:30 < ntrnflx> hey i'm in AL and missed the conf in oct. when's the next one in TN happening. oct?
17:31 <@Corydon76-dig> ntrnflx: we won't know until the Titans release the 2009 schedule, sometime around April or May, 2009
17:32 <@Corydon76-dig> The host hotel is near the Titans stadium and PhreakNIC is scheduled to avoid conflicting with a home game
17:32 < Mercster> those bastards fired mcnabb
17:34  * sdodson thinks it's time to go home
17:36 < Mercster> ohhhh no its not
17:37 < Mercster> it's time to go to work
17:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: I thought you were unemployed
17:38 < Mercster> well, i am
17:38 <@Corydon76-dig> You can get a job here:  http://www.houseboi.com
17:38 < Mercster> hmm, ok, let's see here
17:39  * Mercster straightens his tie and peruses http://www.houseboi.com
17:39 < Mercster> NOW WAIT A SECOND
17:39 <@Corydon76-dig> You can cook and clean, right?
17:39  * Mercster looks around himself
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17:40 < Mercster> im a fast learner and a self starter
17:40 < Mercster> what i'd be cleaning concerns me
17:40 <@Corydon76-dig> A house
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17:40 < Mercster> a house of GAYS
17:41 < Mercster> haha, that site cant be real
17:41 <@Corydon76-dig> It's totally real
17:41 < Mercster> a front for amateur porn probably
17:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Nope
17:41 < Mercster> like bangbus
17:41 <@Corydon76-dig> You mean like http://www.baitbus.com/
17:42  * Mercster shivers
17:42 < Mercster> bangbus is hilarious, that's frightening
17:42 < Mercster> where's polerin, she can explain why the subjugation and humiliation of women is much more entertaining and wholesome than _that_
17:42 <@Corydon76-dig> So I guess you don't need a job that bad, then
17:43 < Mercster> yeah, im independently destitute
17:43 < eryc> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1093823/Pictured-Schoolboy-archer-survives-friend-shoots-arrow-eye.html
17:43 < Mercster> i dont really need to work
17:43 < Mercster> eryc: that's gonna leave a mark
17:44 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: hey there's a new boyfriend for you guy, a whole new warm hole you've never experienced
17:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: lucky you
17:44 < Mercster> you can hire him to clean your house
17:44 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: i bet it wont take long to stretch that eyesocket out
17:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: If you're lucky, you'll get a job cleaning a house of a guy who only wants to LOOK
17:45 < Mercster> hah
17:45 < Mercster> yeah id clean house naked for money
17:45 < Mercster> why deprive the world of my beauty
17:45 < Mercster> but NO TOUCHY THE BROWNEYE
17:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: most gay guys aren't interested in your ass
17:46 < Mercster> youve never seen my ass
17:46 < eryc> u got a perty mouth boy
17:46 < Mercster> eryc: "where you goin' city boy!"
17:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: they'd be interested in your cock
17:46 < Mercster> i still need to get that on DVD
17:46 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: im not ready to date you right now, thx
17:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: I just gave my boyfriend a diamond engagement ring
17:47 < Mercster> i love that line
17:47 < Mercster> remember from 'ace ventura'
17:47 < eryc> http://io9.com/5106149/its-judgement-day-yet-another-terminator-trailer-reveals-all-the-dirty-details
17:47 < Mercster> when that police chief lady is giving him grief
17:47 < Mercster> and he says "im sorry im not ready to date right now, thanks anyway"
17:48 < Mercster> i try to work that in as much as possible
17:48 < Mercster> since it's heeelarious
17:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: but when was the last time you've had another man's tongue in your mouth?
17:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Clearly, it's been too long
17:48 < Mercster> i think dad slipped once when i was 7
17:48 < Mercster> like, literally slipped
17:49 < Mercster> he was giving me a fatherly kiss but tripped on a rock or something
17:49 < Mercster> and it got kind of wet
17:49 < Mercster> but it wasnt intentional
17:49 < Mercster> now if thats all the questions you have
17:49 < Mercster> STOP GETTING ME TO GO GAY
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17:49 < Mercster> i just gave Corydon76-dig a boner, gross :(
17:50  * Mercster retreats into beer
17:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, no, the only way to give me a boner is to give me a warm embrace
17:50 <@Corydon76-dig> preferably with your mouth
17:50 < Mercster> :\
17:50 < Mercster> so you gave your bf a ring huh
17:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Yep
17:50 < Mercster> are you in a state where gays can marry?
17:51 < Mercster> well, each other
17:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Doesn't really matter
17:51 < Mercster> i imagine gays can marry all they want anywhere
17:51 < Mercster> well, i understand it may not
17:51 < Mercster> i was just wondering
17:51 <@Corydon76-dig> The question is, whether we can GET to a state where we can legally marry
17:51 < Mercster> if there were plans to make a trek
17:51 < Mercster> yeah
17:52 < Mercster> well hey that's so, nice and...gross and stuff, i hope that works out for you
17:52 <@Corydon76-dig> and then it's just a matter of whether a particular company wants to go to court or not
17:52 < Mercster> oh?
17:52 < Mercster> whats the deal there
17:53 < Mercster> are you being discriminated against
17:53 < Mercster> for your lascivious ways
17:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, most companies would rather give you marriage benefits than go to court over it
17:53 < Mercster> you just HAD to show affection at the company christmas party, didnt you
17:53 < eryc> http://deadspin.com/5107345/mma-sets-new-standard-for-horrific-leg-breaks
17:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Lawyers cost so much more than a memo
17:53 < Mercster> you had to push buttons!
17:53 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: how many places have "unions" as opposed to marriages?
17:53 < Mercster> legally equitable
17:54 < Mercster> i think its quite a few, no?
17:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Doesn't matter, we're going for 'marriage'
17:54 < Mercster> well, ok
17:54 < Mercster> again, was just curious
17:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Connecticut or Massachusetts
17:54 < Mercster> NOT THAT KIND OF CURIOUS
17:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: How old are you, again?
17:54 < Mercster> haha ;)
17:55 <@Corydon76-dig> The bf doesn't share.  :-P
17:55 < Mercster> i thot you were making some sort of dig at my level of maturity
17:55 <@Corydon76-dig> I was
17:55 < Mercster> ah, ok
17:55 < Mercster> i just turned 13
17:55 < Mercster> in my mind
17:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Ick
17:56 < Mercster> gays r lol
17:56 < Mercster> or something
17:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Even 18 in some cases, is still too young
17:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Not too young for sex, just too young to pursue a relationship with
17:56 < Mercster> one of my guiding principles, Corydon76-dig, is this sage observation:
17:57 < Mercster> if you do not laugh, you cry
17:57 < Mercster> so i make it a point to laugh a whole lot
17:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
17:57 < Mercster> one shouldnt take too much of this, or from it
17:57 < Mercster> it just is
17:57 <@sdodson> This is SRS BIZNESS!
17:57 < Mercster> ya, obviously
17:57  * Mercster loosens his collar
17:58 <@sdodson> omg best prank ever
17:58 < Mercster> what, the collar steam release
17:58 < Mercster> thx
17:58 <@sdodson> So this co-worker starts talking to another co-worker about the movies Bad Boys
17:58 < Mercster> was that the will smith thing
17:59 <@sdodson> goes into all this about how the second one wasn't as good as the first, yatta yatta, like five minutes of conversation.
17:59 <@Corydon76-dig> "Didja see me on Cops the other night?"
17:59 <@sdodson> Then leaves. A few minutes later goes back over to the dude's desk and says he heard there was a third one coming out, go to badboys.com to check it out.
18:00 <@sdodson> Say this with camera phone in and and be prepared to snap a pic for hard lulz.
18:00 < Mercster> heh
18:00 <@sdodson> The prep work involved is what i found so awesome.
18:00 < Mercster> i have a friend who's fond of beating horses to death, about once every 3 months he mentions how 'Friday 2' wasnt as good as the original Friday
18:01 < Mercster> to which i can only nod sympathetically
18:01 <@sdodson> orly?!
18:01 < Mercster> ya
18:01 < Mercster> SOOPRISE!
18:01 <@sdodson> oh ya, soooo like i'm going home now
18:01 <@sdodson> too much work for one day.
18:01 < Mercster> talking to me isnt work :(
18:01 < Mercster> what an ass
18:01 <@sdodson> Well i'm still sitting in my cube which is problematic.
18:02 < Mercster> ahh the people farm
18:02 < Mercster> i was born after offices for all but vice presidents had been phased out
18:02 < Mercster> i quite liked working in cube farms
18:02 < Mercster> it was kind of a family environment, where you hated your family
18:03 < Mercster> i always enjoyed bothering people with an IBM Model M keyboard
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18:04 < Mercster> shit, you only had to really work 30 or so minutes out of the day, that keyboard would make it sound like you were Rockefeller
18:04 < Mercster> hi rattleX
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18:06 < Mercster> oh fuck im missing the news
18:08 < Mercster> in the news tonight, misery and death
18:08 < Mercster> back to you
18:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Forecast for tonight:  Dark.  Continued mostly dark, turning to widely scattered light in the morning.
18:09 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: "Scientists: Death Rate In U.S. Holds Steady At A Staggering 100%"
18:10 < Mercster> why are people suddenly alarmed that illinois politics is corrupt
18:14 <@aestetix> http://www.forcedentryrecords.com/aka119titties02.html nsfw
18:15 < Mercster> aestetix: how do you know my family?
18:15 <@aestetix> Mercster: did you see the link yet?
18:15 < Mercster> yeah, not that i understand it
18:17 < Mercster> scentless apprentice
18:17 < Mercster> good song
18:20 < Mercster> i imagine there exists, in the minds addled with nitrous oxide, everclear, and gasoline fumes who have "organized" this "site", that there may be a message therein
18:20 < Mercster> to me, if looks like a good ol' white trash party
18:20 < Mercster> id probably try to nail that one chick
18:21 < Mercster> which shouldnt be hard since im pretty sure she may have down syndrome
18:21 < Mercster> hard to be certain, the tell-tale forehead is obscured by her nice fat ass
18:22 < Mercster> what's 10 IQ points between statutary rape and legal autonomy
18:22 < Mercster> haha, prussian blue
18:23 < Mercster> these guys throw everything at the wall
18:23 < Mercster> well played
18:24 < Mercster> i wonder if those supple little aryans have turned 18 yet
18:24 < Mercster> the chesire cat's tail in that one drawling looks suspiciously like a tentacle
18:25 < Mercster> id click some of these flash videos, but it might mean bad music
18:26  * Mercster whistles
18:26 < Mercster> wear a rubber, kids
18:26 < Mercster> heh, reverend horton heat
18:28 < Mercster> 99 luftballons
18:30 <@juice> yawn
18:35 < Mercster> tiny robots
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18:45 <@M0j0-j0j0> I think I've had enough for the day and I'm headed home
18:45 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'll talk to ya'll in the mornin
18:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> until then someone look for the off button on Mercster.  He's been causin too much scroll
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18:47 < Mercster> gee sorry, he shoulda told us about the soliloquy he wanted to deliver
18:48 < Mercster> dont let me interrupt, let's get to the pressing business at hand
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19:02 < Mercster> k, next
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19:39 <@mtown_nerd> rofl
19:39 <@mtown_nerd> http://gizmodo.com/5106129/giz-explains-everything-you-need-to-know-about-hard-drives
19:39 <@mtown_nerd> Scott's presentation on Hd's doesn't have dancing and disco  :o
19:41 < Mercster> gb: can i go back to the bible
19:41 < Mercster> whoops!
19:50 <@dasunt> I am a god amoung men.
19:50 <@dasunt> I have decided this.
19:50 <@dasunt> Thus it is so.
19:51 < Mercster> dasunt: can you grant me wishes or anything?
19:52 < Mercster> or are you just one of those lasers-out-the-eyes deities
19:57 <@dasunt> Mercster: Depends on the wish.
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19:59 < Mercster> could you stop typing
19:59 <@dasunt> For a bit, yes.
19:59 < Mercster> that's hardly miraculous
20:01 < Mercster> what in the hell is wrong with british people
20:01 < Mercster> My Small Breasts and I
20:01 < Mercster> Thu, Dec 11, 9:00p - 10:00p [Closed Captioned]
20:01 < Mercster> 114 BBCA
20:02 <@tzanger> http://www.bleedtheworld.com/
20:04 < Mercster> HURRY, STING, KILL BONO
20:04 < Mercster> doh
20:09 < Mercster> tzanger: glad that important message was brought to us, and the resources, equipment, education, and dedication werent spent somewhere like actually helping the victims of these inhuman tyrants of industry
20:10 <@tzanger> hah yes precisely
20:10 < Mercster> i think im a little stupider than i was 5 mins ago
20:10 <@tzanger> I think you should create a facebook group to reflect your views
20:10 <@tzanger> they achieve as much as the video
20:10 < Mercster> and possibly a little gayer, after seeing boy george
20:10 < Mercster> dont mess with that fairy man, he'll chain you to the wall and beat you with pipes
20:11 < Mercster> dont let the eyelashes fool you
20:11 < Mercster> boy george'a straight up an' whoop onna cat
20:11 < Mercster> boy george dont play
20:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+m] by sdodson
20:12  * sdodson calls for a moment of silence
20:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [-m] by sdodson
20:13 < Mercster> im appalled
20:13 <@tzanger> haha
20:14  * SmthingPrductive pets his +v
20:14 < Mercster> you betta hope boy george don' ansuh mah cricket, foo'
20:14 < Mercster> so did you guys hear OJ did it
20:15 < Mercster> i mean rob some place
20:15  * SmthingPrductive tries to curl in the top and round the bottom of his +v
20:15  * SmthingPrductive gets out the cutting torches
20:16 < Mercster> aww, heart shape
20:16  * SmthingPrductive catches the monitor on fire
20:17 < Mercster> tzanger: no...the time has come for a youtube VLOG
20:17 <@tzanger> oh my dear lord
20:17 < Mercster> the most powerful force in the retard universe
20:18 < Mercster> my pasty face 3" from a cheap webcam
20:18 < Mercster> saying umm a lot
20:18 < Mercster> and STICKING IT TO THE MAN
20:18 < Mercster> with some death cab for cutie in the background
20:19 < Mercster> video response to YOU, SIR
20:19 < Mercster> add a comment at the bottom
20:19 < Mercster> subscribe to me?
20:20 <@sdodson> no thanks!
20:20 <@sdodson> http://www.snorgtees.com/images/CanYouBeerMe_Fullpic_1.gif
20:21 < Mercster> people cant even stand the talking heads in the news for more than 3 minutes onscreen, im not sure why people subject us to so much worse analysis for so much more time
20:21 < Mercster> i dunno who "us" is, maybe noone watches them
20:21 < Mercster> but they sure are taking up a lot of disk space somewhere
20:22 <@tzanger> I'd like to how how the hell FLV became the defacto container format for web video
20:22 < Mercster> youtube could cut operating costs by 90% by eliminating ignorant screeds
20:22 < Mercster> tzanger: path of least resistance. as shitty quality possible
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20:23 < Mercster> small enough to shove down most tubes
20:25 < Mercster> the idea is to fit as much bullshit into as tight a space as possible
20:25 < Mercster> bullshit really doesnt benefit from cinemascope and THX
21:03 < eryc> the new hotness is gonna be ogg
21:04 <@aestetix> God. I love John Waters
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22:17 < eryc> hello you wild magnolias
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23:01 <@aestetix> man
23:02 <@aestetix> I finally get X working again, now my wireless card drops
23:02 <@sdodson> Should have installed Feodra.
23:02 <@aestetix> on my eeepc?
23:03 < eryc> nah gentoo dude
23:03 < eryc> riceeerpc!
23:04 <@sdodson> why'd you move to VA?
23:04 < eryc> work
23:04 < eryc> they relo'd me
23:05 < eryc> i make good money, so it was worth it
23:05 < eryc> im thinkin nyc, sandiego, or miami would be my next move if i get to choose
23:06 < eryc> i told you i was moving btw
23:07 <@sdodson> eryc: I generally ignore what you say.
23:07 < eryc> pft
23:09 < eryc> im like the new, more awesome, war
23:09 < eryc> e
23:09 < eryc> if only i had mad vhosts
23:13 <@sdodson> eryc: Keep your eye on the prize.
23:13 < eryc> im gonna come to your housewarming party!
23:14 < eryc> hm
23:14 < eryc> i think im gonna start a Groovy & Grails users group in DC
23:16 < eryc> sdodson: why are you being an ass?
23:20 <@sdodson> eryc: Why not?
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23:26 <@dasunt> Er.
23:26 <@dasunt> Hmmm.
23:32 <@sdodson> dasunt: hai
23:32 <@dasunt> What's up?
23:32 <@dasunt> I tried to make a bad drunk choice, but I've hit music so obscure that I can't buy it off amazon or ebay.
23:32 <@sdodson> is it legal to ride your bike on divided four lane roads with access control?
23:32 <@dasunt> Interstates are illegal.
23:32 <@dasunt> Dunno about access controlled.
23:33 <@dasunt> I think the better question is "does being legally right and biologically dead a good thing"?
23:33 <@sdodson> Like, in Georgia there were signs that clearly stated "Begin access control" but here you just end up with exit signs
23:34 <@dasunt> Is it an interstate?
23:34 < eryc> what does access control mean
23:34 <@dasunt> eryc: Limited access highway.
23:34 < eryc> which means?
23:34 <@sdodson> eryc: Exits
23:35 <@sdodson> You can't just build an intersection.
23:35 < eryc> i usually try not to
23:35 < eryc> i still dont get it
23:36 < eryc> i understand things like interstate, highway, toll road, hov express
23:36 < eryc> oh and "authorized vehicles only" ie. cops
23:36 < eryc> and thats just medians and access to the airport road
23:37 <@sdodson> If there are exit numbers and stuf then it's access controlled.
23:37 <@sdodson> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_access_controlled_highway
23:37 < eryc> i see
23:37 < eryc> well usually the presence of a road permits access?
23:37 < eryc> do people build there own dirt onramps now?
23:38 < eryc> their
23:38 <@dasunt> sdodson: Why do you ask this, btw?
23:38 <@sdodson> dasunt: Looking at maps and the best way to get to work via bike
23:39 <@dasunt> sdodson: Wide shoulders, slower traffic.
23:39 <@dasunt> Not a lot of turns.
23:39 <@dasunt> Unfortunately, you live in the south, so I think that hitting bikes is encouraged.  :(
23:39 <@sdodson> The small two lane roads i'd use have no shoulders and death turns.
23:39 < eryc> limited access highway = toll road btw
23:39 < eryc> access controlled = freeway
23:40 < eryc> sdodson: google walking route?
23:40 <@dasunt> remember, sometimes there are good shortcuts that google doesn't see.
23:41 < eryc> true
23:41 <@dasunt> Hillarious thing though -- there's a great shortcut through a parking lot for the Minneapolis Diagonal Trail in summer.
23:41 < eryc> google needs to add hiking trails, that'd be awesome
23:41 <@dasunt> Right now, there's a pile of snow in front of the shortcut.
23:41 <@dasunt> :(
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23:42 <@sdodson> I'm sure a year from now Google will be able to route my from my couch to each of my three bathrooms.
23:43 < eryc> complete with traffic and weather
23:43 <@sdodson> Turn left at your kitchen table (Nice silverware btw), put the milk away, it's been out for 20 minutes, go upstairs...
23:43 <@sdodson> google will know EVERYTHING
23:44 <@dasunt> Duck into the bedroom to avoid the wife (you should have taken out the garbage), wait 62 seconds, then dart across the hall to the bathroom.
23:44 < eryc> heh, matrix
23:45 < eryc> http://foodproof.com/photos/full/bacon-cheese-roll-1290
23:46 <@sdodson> bacon is the new caffeine
23:46 <@sdodson> Soon Thinkgeek will be selling bacon soap
23:46 < eryc> pork mints
23:46 < eryc> nom nom nom
23:48 <@sdodson> later folks, time for bed
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23:49 <@dasunt> Alcohol.
23:49 <@dasunt> That's the new caffeine.
23:50 < eryc> i think youre missing the point
23:51 < eryc> but no reason to give up caffeine for alcohol when theres caffeinated alcohol!
23:51 <@dasunt> What's the point?
23:51 <@dasunt> Ah, I see.
23:51 < eryc> well the internet was in love with caffeine for a while
23:51 < eryc> molecule diagrams on tshirts, penguin mints, caffenated soap, etc
23:51 < eryc> now its bacon
23:52 < eryc> next will be lima beans or beats or some shit
23:53 <@dasunt> I should buy a camelback.
23:53 < eryc> ya they rule
23:53 < eryc> thanks for mentioning that actually
23:54 < eryc> i should bring mine snowboarding if i get to go this weekend
23:56 <@dasunt> My water bottle on my bike is freezing up.
23:56 <@dasunt> In about the first 30 minutes, it freezes enought to be hard to drink from.
23:56 < eryc> maybe get a better insulated bottle?
23:59 <@dasunt> Maybe.
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