--- Log opened Wed Dec 10 00:00:31 2008 00:10 <@dasunt> I ran across someone's porn cache today. 00:10 <@dasunt> I don't understarnd some peoples' porn collections. 00:10 <@dasunt> Although I'm about willing to congratulate him on figuring out directory hierarchy 00:11 <@Catonic_lp> Too depressed to move forward, too lazy to commit suicide. 00:12 <@dasunt> I'd kill myself, but it seems like a final solution. 00:18 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@c-68-48-1-160.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 00:19 <@Catonic_lp> the truly odd things about life... the music that makes me sappy and depressed is not the music you'd think.. 00:19 <@Catonic_lp> ben folds... not nine inch nails. 00:21 <@dasunt> The music that makes me sad... 00:23 <@dasunt> Probably music that explains longing for what is not. 00:23 < scr1bbles> you probably just need to get laid 00:24 -!- scr1bbles is now known as scribbles 00:26 <@dasunt> That's part of my problem. 00:26 <@coil> dasunt, lets drink 00:27 <@dasunt> I need to get laid by someone who isn't batshit insane. 00:27 <@dasunt> coil: Already ahead ofyou. 00:27 <@coil> jk im not drinking 00:27 < scribbles> the grass is always greener, then you end up in a long term relationsihp 00:27 <@dasunt> [Slacker. 00:27 <@coil> no im a smoker not a slacker 00:28 <@dasunt> I've tried the other side. 00:28 <@dasunt> That's why I'm misanthropic. 00:28 < scribbles> then you think things like "i should be out plowing the world!" but you never really were plowing the world while you were single, its a vicious cycle. 00:28 <@coil> oh well 00:28 -!- nated0g_wrk [i=nated0g@river191.bigriver.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:28 <@coil> fuck it 00:28 <@coil> cut off your nuts you'll never use them again 00:28 <@dasunt> scribbles: To be honest, I never thought "I should find someone else" while I was with the ex-from-hell. 00:28 <@dasunt> Admittedly, she did. 00:29 <@dasunt> Oh well. 00:33 <@Catonic_lp> dasunt: you just need to fuck anything you want to... just dont get in a RELATIONSHIP with crazy. 00:34 <@Catonic_lp> 1 in 10 chicks is cool 00:37 <@dasunt> I fall in love though. 00:37 <@dasunt> :( 00:38 <@Catonic_lp> then fuckin do it 00:38 <@dasunt> Fall in love? 00:38 <@dasunt> No. 00:38 <@dasunt> That's how things suck. 00:38 <@Catonic_lp> just admit to yourself that you're going to fall on your sword every time and realize that you're going to walk away feeling burned, hurt, and miserable... 00:38 <@Catonic_lp> but fucking live. 00:40 <@dasunt> I live in different ways. 00:41 <@Catonic_lp> dasunt: cher. believe. 00:43 <@Catonic_lp> I am the Tommy Boy of relationships 00:44 <@Catonic_lp> just smash the fuck out of everything 00:44 <@dasunt> I end up not caring. 00:44 <@dasunt> I can't sleep with someone I don't respect. 00:45 <@Catonic_lp> and since you see all women as whores, liars, and rakes, you don't respect any of them 00:46 <@Catonic_lp> quit putting women on a pedestal and start treating them as human beings and you'll be a lot happier 00:46 <@coil> lets all just become gay 00:46 <@Catonic_lp> coil: you first 00:46 <@coil> already am 00:46 <@coil> ur turn 00:46 <@Catonic_lp> sorry. 00:47 <@coil> awww c'mon man im just suckin your dick 00:48 -!- coil was kicked from #se2600 by Catonic_lp [Line. You crossed it.] 00:48 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 00:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil] by ChanServ 00:48 <@coil> homophobe. 00:48 <@dasunt> Catonic_lp: That's the problem. 00:48 <@dasunt> They are human. 00:49 <@dasunt> And human beings, as a general rule, suck. 00:49 <@Catonic_lp> you're pedestalling them 00:49 <@Catonic_lp> and when they don't live up to your god-like image, you think they are worthless 00:49 <@coil> ya'all are bitches 00:49 <@Catonic_lp> or they get bored because so many guys treat them that way 00:49 <@dasunt> coil: Everyone's a bitch. 00:50 <@coil> cry a river dasunt 00:50 <@dasunt> How about I beat you with a tire iron? 00:50 <@Catonic_lp> coil: diaf 00:50 <@coil> dont have the balls 00:50 * dasunt grabs the tire iron. 00:50 <@dasunt> Get here, asshole. 00:51 <@coil> no u get here 00:51 <@coil> i got a crow bar bitch 00:51 <@dasunt> How long? 00:51 <@coil> ur lil puny tire iron is no match for my massively huge crowbar 00:51 <@dasunt> The 18" suck ass. 00:51 <@dasunt> The long ones rock. 00:51 <@coil> that's what she said 01:06 -!- warrendubz [n=warrendu@adsl-074-185-104-108.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has left #se2600 [] 01:13 * dasunt listens to Bonnie Prince Billy. 01:13 <@coil> ruin 01:15 <@Catonic> dasunt: I got an 18"er. 01:15 <@Catonic> it's a breaker bar, not a tire iron... 01:16 <@coil> hee haw it's a fag bashin 01:16 <@coil> bring yer guns 01:17 <@dasunt> I have a 36" I think. 01:18 <@dasunt> Haven't measured it. 01:18 <@dasunt> But damn, it is a useful tool. 01:33 -!- TheLightCosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-144c9ed49d792ac9] has joined #se2600 01:51 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: you on? 02:07 < DigitalIrony> http://crap.fi/?i=6740 02:10 <@Catonic> iron man kicks ass 02:25 <@mtown_nerd> http://crap.fi/?i=4317 Thato ne made me lol 02:30 <@coil> bahahahahah 02:54 < Mercster> l 02:55 -!- Mercster [n=merc@c-76-114-87-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 02:56 -!- Mercster [n=merc@c-76-114-87-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:09 -!- Mercster [n=merc@c-76-114-87-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:21 -!- Mercster [n=merc@c-76-114-87-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 05:07 < Mercster> you cant stop the funk 06:31 <@Shadow404> interestingly enough, help desk positions are really numerous right now 06:31 < TheLightCosine> heh 06:31 < TheLightCosine> i'd kill to get OFF helpdesk work right now 06:32 <@Shadow404> heh, working in a noc is basically the same thing, just more technical 06:33 < TheLightCosine> Shadow404: most of my job is fixing people's MS Office or resetting passwords 06:33 <@Shadow404> oh man, that would drive me crazy 06:33 <@Shadow404> end users all day 06:34 < TheLightCosine> sometimes it feels like my brain is suffering atrophy 06:34 < TheLightCosine> i find little side porjects to fill my time, some of them even authorise =P 06:34 < TheLightCosine> like right now i'm working on trying to create a vb.net app that can hijack HTTP replies before they get to the browser 06:35 <@Shadow404> why? 06:35 < TheLightCosine> or at least in theory that's what i'm ATTEMPTING 06:35 < TheLightCosine> just to see if i can 06:43 < TheLightCosine> hrm i wish i was a hardware hacker, i suddenly had the great idea of build an in-car omni-directional wifi jammer 06:44 < TheLightCosine> just drive around neighborhoods taking out people's wifi lol 06:45 < Mercster> loool 06:45 < Mercster> hilarious 06:46 < TheLightCosine> i'm not sure but i'm rpetty sure that violates FCC regulations to do soemthing like that heh 06:51 <@Shadow404> yes 06:52 <@Shadow404> inteferrence violations 06:53 < TheLightCosine> it'd still be hilarious 06:53 <@Shadow404> not hard to do really 06:53 <@Shadow404> just gotta tune to the right frequency and spit noise all over the bandwidth 06:54 < TheLightCosine> just need something that broadcasts on those same frequencies 06:57 < TheLightCosine> hrmmm 06:57 < TheLightCosine> i wonder if you could hack the firmware of an ap to do it come to think of it 06:58 <@Shadow404> heh, frequency dos 06:58 < TheLightCosine> hehehe 06:58 < TheLightCosine> 'sinistar! 07:01 <@aestetix> dongz 07:03 < Mercster> durty 07:31 <@aestetix> Wow. 07:31 <@aestetix> I just started paying attention to the Illinois stuff 07:31 <@aestetix> This is insane. 07:32 < Mercster> corrupt politicians? not too insane ;- 07:32 < Mercster> ) 07:33 < Mercster> serems like in the past week, several politicians have gotten into legal trouble 07:33 < Mercster> s/serems/seems 07:36 < Mercster> ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Disgraced New York City congressman Vito Fossella is headed to court to find out if he has to serve jail time for a drunken-driving charge 07:38 < Mercster> then there was one down south somewhere, louisiana or some such 07:39 <@aestetix> I've seen some dooseys. 07:39 <@aestetix> But this is pretty big. 07:39 <@Shadow404> so u gotta wonder how obama got his senator seat to begin with 07:40 <@Shadow404> did he pay to play? 07:40 < Mercster> yeah i guess there is the heightened obama angle for the IL one 07:41 <@Shadow404> if he did, i want a FULL investigation 07:42 < Mercster> i didnt vote for obama, but frankly i wouldnt want the election results called into question over this crap 07:42 < Mercster> everyone knows chicago politics is one of the most corrupt sectors in US governancer 07:43 < Mercster> id be surprised if obama didnt benefit at least once for shady reasons 07:43 < Mercster> we need to get on with printing more money and killing terrorists 07:45 < Mercster> regardless of what obama is or believes, he's going to have such enormous political capital in the first weeks/months of his administration that he might actually get something done 07:45 < Mercster> and much of what gets done has nothing to do with his personal politics or party, but what _actually_ needs to get done 07:47 < Mercster> i find it naive, and for some pretentious and disingenous, to act surprised when a politician has been "caught" with his hand seemingly in the cookie jar 07:48 < Mercster> To be fair, Blagojevich works from the state capital in Springfield, but according to the Chicago Sun-Times in the last 30 years no less than 79 local elected officials have been convicted of a crime, including three Illinois governors, one Chicago mayor and 27 of the city's aldermen. 07:48 < Mercster> heh 07:54 <@Shadow404> i dont want our president-elect in office cause he made some deal to get there 07:54 < TheLightCosine> hahaha 07:54 < TheLightCosine> then you might as well scrub every president after washington shadow 07:56 <@Shadow404> i wonder if obama is still attending the church where his pastor got so much spotlight for his speeches 07:57 <@Shadow404> ah, but people are quick to turn a blind eye 07:57 < Mercster> Shadow404: i think he switched churches iirc 07:57 < Mercster> not that it excuses the matter 07:57 <@Shadow404> yeah and that he attended that church for over 20 years 07:58 < TheLightCosine> can you hold a man responsible if his minister is a whack job? 07:58 <@Shadow404> if he chooses to listen and believe what the whack job says 07:58 < Mercster> i wonder wtf he was doing in there church for 20 years; either he was not paying one bit of attention, which makes him a lying hypocrit, or he was, which makes him...well, a lying hypocrit 07:58 <@Shadow404> exactly my point! 07:58 < TheLightCosine> he's a politician mercster 07:58 < TheLightCosine> there isn't a choice there 07:58 <@Shadow404> but his pastor was truly racist 07:58 < TheLightCosine> they're all lying hypocrits 07:59 <@Shadow404> so what does that make obama for listening to him? 07:59 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: then why did he sit there for 20 years? politics? showing his face? i dont respect anyone who goes to church just to imopress people, shake hands, etc 07:59 <@Shadow404> do we want that sorta person in office? 07:59 < Mercster> if you dont believe what is preached, find another church. if you dont know what's being preached, why are you there? 07:59 < TheLightCosine> Mercster: that's my point 07:59 < TheLightCosine> why do you expect him to be different from any other politician? 08:00 < Mercster> there are many facets of life a politican can be crooked; religion is one that i have less respect for 08:00 < TheLightCosine> but they almost all are 08:00 < Mercster> i am a christian myself, and the idea of someone going to a church just to be seen, just to be "one of the crowd", is particularly evil 08:01 < TheLightCosine> and you can think the religious right for "christian values" being a qualification for prez lately 08:01 < Mercster> politicians can lie about a wide range of things without getting me particularly bothered 08:01 <@I-MOD> it's understandable, he's using your faith for self-promotion 08:01 < Mercster> well, i am part of the "religious right", and recognize that there are a zillion churches obama could have gone to if he found his church's message a) wrong or b) boring 08:02 < Mercster> either he knew it was wrong and went anyway, possibly agreeing, or he went and promptly fell asleep during every single service, which isnt any better, since he was out to make a sort of "public statement" out of his "religion" 08:02 < TheLightCosine> i udnerstand the concern, i really do but i find it offensive what church he went to was even a part of the electrion 08:03 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: welcome to america, where christianity matters 08:03 < Mercster> also, when your church is racist and hatefilled, welcome to the nation caring 08:03 <@sdodson> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/event.php?eid=32387329669&ref=nf "A DAY WITHOUT GAYS - CALL IN GAY" 08:03 < Mercster> sdodson: heh 08:04 < Mercster> sdodson: is that today? 08:04 < TheLightCosine> Mercster: they acred before his minister made those speaches 08:04 < TheLightCosine> I find it extremely that the "lkand of religious freedom" is actually "freedom to practice christianity...and oh yeah we kind of tolerate jews..the rest of you fuck off" 08:04 < TheLightCosine> er extremely offensive even 08:04 <@sdodson> Mercster: Ya. 08:05 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: ... you should get out more 08:06 <@sdodson> Mercster: Sort of seems like an easy way for companies to get rid of their gay staff. 08:06 < TheLightCosine> get out more hunh? 08:06 <@sdodson> "Sure, just show me your doctors note or you're gone. kthnx" 08:07 < Mercster> yeah, get out more 08:07 < Mercster> sdodson: dunno...apparently that's against the law, but i suppose it's still a thoughtcrime anytime someone gay is fired 08:08 < TheLightCosine> every day i have to listen to christians talk about "the wolrd is going to hell because of gay marriage" or about how things are "unchristian", i've spent my whole life being automatically treated as a bad person because i'm not christian, so I can tell you first hand that while we may be legally protected, it doesn't mean non-christians aren't persecuted in this country 08:08 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: i know, you're mad cuz dad made you wear a tie on sundays 08:08 < Mercster> it's all very tragic 08:09 <@sdodson> I was feeling bad for him, but that's just 100% hard lulz 08:09 < TheLightCosine> yeah just like it's very tragic to hear christians bitch and moan about "being persecuted" because people teach evoloution in school 08:09 < Mercster> yeah 08:09 < Mercster> less qq more pewpew 08:10 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: sounds like you're generalizing...just because some christians dont want evolution taught in schools doesnt mean "christians" dont 08:10 < Mercster> plus, wasnt that solved in the 20s or some shit 08:10 < Mercster> scopes monkey trial 08:10 < TheLightCosine> hah 08:10 < Mercster> i dont know of a single school district in the nation that doesnt teach evolution 08:10 < TheLightCosine> now who needs to get out more 08:10 < TheLightCosine> there have been several major l;egal acses in just the past 2 or 3 years 08:11 <@sdodson> Mercster: Wasn't it you that said just because it's a generalization doesn't mean it's wrong? 08:11 < Mercster> sdodson: no, i didnt. i said it doesnt mean it's "useful" 08:11 < TheLightCosine> let's re-focus this back on track for a moment tho 08:11 < TheLightCosine> by definition our Electoral process should NEVER include what religion the person is 08:12 < Mercster> as far as getting out more, i was referencing TheLightCosine's assertion that christianity was the only true tolerated faith out there 08:12 < Mercster> oh, and jews "kinda" 08:12 < Mercster> appears to me even the dumbest shit has protection, for instance the raelians 08:12 < Mercster> they have tax exempt status 08:12 < Mercster> they are free to open as many crazy-ufo-cult centers as they like 08:13 <@I-MOD> religions shouldn't be tax exempt, it's no different from any other business in my eyes 08:13 < Mercster> I-MOD: good thing you dont matter 08:13 <@I-MOD> Mercster, probably 08:14 < Mercster> scientology makes more money than all churches put together probably, they seem to be tolerated 08:14 < Mercster> dearborn michigan has more mosques than churches. i assume they are tolerated 08:15 < TheLightCosine> they are legally protected 08:15 < Mercster> people rail against what they feel personally affected by, so you have people railing against christendom 08:15 < TheLightCosine> but ask muslim residents of that town how they are "tolerated" 08:15 < Mercster> dad made them wear a tie on sundays, so they grow up angsty about christianity 08:15 < Mercster> i understansd it, but it doesnt maker you even close to accurate ;-) 08:15 < Mercster> "get out more" 08:16 < TheLightCosine> actually you're statement applies best to you 08:16 < Mercster> 'your' 08:16 < TheLightCosine> your veiwpoint presents a lack of any real world experience in dealing with people 08:16 < Mercster> is that right? :) 08:16 < Mercster> i was a buddhist for 12 years before converting to christianity 08:17 < Mercster> yeah, i never get out 08:17 < Mercster> i have _no_ idea whats going on 08:17 < TheLightCosine> so for example you think muslims are tolerated just fine in this country 08:17 < Mercster> lemme guess, you're under the age of 30 and have felt personally burned by christianity your entire life 08:17 < Mercster> especially since deeming yourself a computer genius 08:17 < Mercster> with all of the resources of THE INNERNETTE at your fingertips 08:18 < TheLightCosine> and yet you can go out anywhere and see people talking about "twel heads" and "those damn muslims" all the people saying obama is a terrorist because his last name is Obama 08:18 <@sdodson> I like your strategy of completely ignoring what he's saying. 08:18 < Mercster> TheLightCosine, this morning i ejected more life experience into the shitter than you have in your entire body 08:18 < Mercster> do _not_ tell me about experience :) 08:18 < TheLightCosine> Mercster: ah resorting to ad hominem attacks 08:18 < TheLightCosine> now you're thinking like a politician 08:18 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: actually i think it's his middle name that matters more, 'hussein' 08:18 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: shoe fits, kid 08:19 < TheLightCosine> you have no diea how old i am though, now do you 08:19 < TheLightCosine> nor have you addressed a single point i've made 08:19 < Mercster> you can fire all the latin you want at me 08:19 <@sdodson> TheLightCosine: ooh, tell us 08:19 < Mercster> < TheLightCosine> your veiwpoint presents a lack of any real world experience in dealing with people 08:19 < TheLightCosine> instead you just keep saying things like "i'm odler than you" "i was buddhist" "get out more" 08:19 < Mercster> ya, plz, get out more 08:19 < Mercster> or dont 08:19 < Mercster> it really dont matter to me :) 08:20 < Mercster> i know, cry more 08:21 < TheLightCosine> whatever, this is like talking to a 4chan troll 08:21 < TheLightCosine> "whatev newb, lulz!" 08:21 < Mercster> ya 08:23 < Mercster> anyway, original point was: going to a church for 20 years and then suddenly finding yourself diametrically opposed to what it preaches isnt a valid strategy, since one must immediately wonder what the person was doing there in the first place 08:24 < Mercster> if you want rights for atheists, you should be angry at obama not for going to church, but for seemingly going to church only for the impression it makes 08:24 < TheLightCosine> who said I was an atheist? 08:24 < Mercster> the two possibilities are a) knew what was being taught or b) slept thru every sermon 08:25 < Mercster> each equally odious 08:25 < TheLightCosine> or c) agreed with some of the things being taught there but not others 08:25 < TheLightCosine> but that doesn't fly in politics, because everything has to be simple for the media to mass market to people 08:26 < Mercster> Luke6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. (KJV) 08:26 < Mercster> excuse me for quoting the bible, but, you kinda asked for it 08:26 < Mercster> now churches obviously can make mistakes, but when you have a preacher fond of saying "God damn america" 08:27 < Mercster> well, come on 08:27 < Mercster> dont take too many hints 08:28 < Mercster> maybe he miraculously only showed up on sundays where goofy shit wasnt being said 08:28 < Mercster> i guess that's possible, though not very probable 08:29 < Mercster> the understanding is that, if one is religious (and its fine if someone isnt), that faith and religion lies at the heart of who they are, the heart of their morality and conscience. if you stay in a church for 20 years, it stands to reason one would be aware of what the teachers in that church thought 08:29 < Mercster> thats all im saying 08:30 < Mercster> so either he agreed or wasnt paying attention 08:30 < TheLightCosine> well, i suppose that's a pretty valid point 08:30 < Mercster> and its not a crime if he wasnt paying attention because "it makes God mad" or whatever, but that as stated, religion is one of the pillars of his character or belief system 08:30 < TheLightCosine> but again my original point remains is i that i fail to see how he's different from a whole host of other politicians in this except that he got caught 08:30 < Mercster> whatever it was, i mean if he had come from a bahai center that was saying dumb shit for 20 years and he didnt leave 08:31 < Mercster> well, wtf was he doing there? 08:31 < Mercster> why was he willing to allow something he had no idea of, to be an integral part of his character? 08:31 < Mercster> it's about decision making, not necessarily his faith or, whatever 08:32 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: well, im sure there are plenty of politicians who go to church for no reason other than to press flesh and "look good", but it would be unfair to judge someone on that since we dont know what's going on in his or her heart 08:32 < Mercster> but of course obama's church HAS been exposed as hateful, so, the question becomes valid 08:33 < TheLightCosine> I guess my problem is i've become jaded about the whole process 08:33 < TheLightCosine> i've come down to "who do i think is going to be LESS corrupt" 08:34 < TheLightCosine> i get so tired of the "mccain did this" "palin said that" "obama is a communist" etc 08:34 < Mercster> well that's not an entirely inaffective way of looking at it 08:35 < TheLightCosine> for example, your issue with this curch thing 08:35 < Mercster> to put any man up on a pedastle as if he were flawless is naive 08:36 < TheLightCosine> my question is this "is there anything in his record that would indicate he acts on those kind of sentiments, whether he feels that way or not" 08:36 < Mercster> yes, sitting there for 20 years 08:36 < Mercster> ;-) 08:36 < TheLightCosine> yeah and a lot of people have made obama as the second coming 08:36 < Mercster> unless, jeez, he just didnt pay attention at all 08:36 < TheLightCosine> that's not acting on hateful sentiments 08:36 < TheLightCosine> that's sitting there listening to them 08:36 < Mercster> yeah but...why sit there? 08:36 < Mercster> lets get away from a church 08:36 < Mercster> let me give you a thought experiment 08:37 < Mercster> let's say obama was 7th day adventist, didnt believe in giving blood 08:37 < Mercster> and was also a board member of the red cross for 20 years 08:37 < Mercster> then it comes out in the campaign that the red cross is all about giving blood 08:37 < Mercster> and suddenly obama resigns from the red cross, "I didnt know they supported giving blood" 08:37 < Mercster> ... 08:38 < Mercster> WHAT WERE YOU DOING THERE FOR 20 YEARS 08:38 <@I-MOD> ... 08:38 < Mercster> did he just sleep thru every single board meeting? 08:38 < TheLightCosine> right, that makes him a hypocrit and a liar 08:38 < TheLightCosine> big deal 08:38 < TheLightCosine> every politician is 08:38 < Mercster> how can you sit somewhere for 20 years and not know what its about? 08:38 < Mercster> TheLightCosine: there are things you lie about, and there are things you dont lie about ;-) 08:38 < TheLightCosine> right but to a politician those things don't matter 08:39 <@Shadow404> TheLightCosine: how can u turn such a blind eye? 08:39 < Mercster> i guess i try to pick the politicians who know what to lie about 08:39 < Mercster> and what would be self-defeating to the core to lie about 08:39 < TheLightCosine> or at leats the ones who are btter about not getting caught? 08:39 < Mercster> all politicians lie, but it's rare that a politician lies about *everything* 08:40 < Mercster> politicians are going to lie about what is politically expedient...being a christian? sure, im sure some do. but why dont find a nice inoffensive united methodist church to fall asleep in every sunday? why 20 years with a bunch of hateful racists? 08:40 < Mercster> it strains believability 08:41 < Mercster> thus it's not necessarily his faith which is to be questioned, but his basic decision making skills 08:41 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@c-68-48-1-160.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 08:41 < Mercster> of course his faith will be questioned by some (me) but is unimportant to others (you) 08:41 < Mercster> and i respect that difference 08:41 < Mercster> but where we can agree is, he must be some kinda huge dumbass for sitting there for 20 years 08:41 < Mercster> thats all im sayin' 08:43 < Mercster> also, big ups to brooklyn 08:50 <@aestetix> What about Brooklyn? 08:52 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 08:58 < TheLightCosine> Mercster: it's the "I did not have sex with that woman" argument though 08:59 < TheLightCosine> in the end i just don't see how it really impacts his perfomance in the office of presidency 09:01 <@Shadow404> hateful racism, not effect performance in office/ 09:01 <@Shadow404> u got to be kidding me 09:02 <@Shadow404> it will effect everything he does 09:02 < TheLightCosine> Shadow404: you show me where he has shown that his policy will reflect those viewpoints and i'll be concerned 09:02 <@Shadow404> we cant see it yet, cause hes not president 09:02 <@Shadow404> but the fact that he has tendencies worries me 09:03 < TheLightCosine> bush had tendencies towards alcoholism and drug abuse 09:03 < TheLightCosine> that didn't stop people from voting him into office 09:03 < TheLightCosine> was he snorting cocaine in the oval office?...well okay maybe a bad example 09:04 <@Shadow404> it really concerns me that someone that is supposed to be a leader of a nation, went to a church with a racist pastor for over 20 years 09:07 <@Shadow404> ah, ffs, dyndns just fucked up their webhop services.."we are working diligently to restore this service for all customers, we do not have an ETA to when this issues will be resolved but will notify all our customers when a resolution has been reached" 09:07 < TheLightCosine> just webhop? 09:07 <@Shadow404> bigblue.homeftp.net is supposed to point to shadowcam.homeftp.net:91 09:07 <@Shadow404> bigblue.homeftp.net is supposed to point to shadowcam.homeftp.net:81 09:07 <@Shadow404> not :91 09:08 < TheLightCosine> glad i don't use webhop anymore atm 09:08 < TheLightCosine> i was only ever using it when I had fiOs to get around the port 80 inbound block 09:08 <@Shadow404> basically a snazzy name for a cname record with a low ttl 09:12 <@aestetix> my eeepc just arrived 09:12 <@aestetix> this thing fucking rules 09:14 < scribbles> which model? 09:15 < scribbles> the new issue of hakin9 had a wep hacking w/ eee article in it 09:17 < Mercster> i need a dell mini 9 :( 09:18 <@oddball> I fail to see how the mini 9 is better than the equivilent eee pc or Acer Aspire One... and the Dell costs more. 09:18 < TheLightCosine> heh, eveyrbody is going to the mini computers and i just went from a tiny laptop to a big freaking alienware lol 09:19 <@oddball> I still have a 17" HP lappy... just got tired of lugging that bad boy around. 09:20 < scribbles> the hp mini's keyboard is awesome, and it looks cleaner than the eee 09:20 <@aestetix> Um. 09:20 < scribbles> but the linux support for the eee is win 09:20 <@aestetix> Asus 1000HA 09:20 < scribbles> and thats more important :( 09:20 <@aestetix> scribbles: that's why I got it. 09:21 <@oddball> Ah, the 10" one. Yeah, the contractor that my company works with saw my 900 and went out and bought one of those. 09:22 < scribbles> anyone checked out eeeubuntu? 09:22 <@aestetix> Heh. 09:22 <@aestetix> Yeah, I figured the extra inch was worth the extra $100 09:22 <@aestetix> oh god please don't take that out of context 09:22 < scribbles> heh that happened as soon as you typed it 09:23 <@aestetix> This fucker has 160gig hdd on it 09:24 <@oddball> ah, HP has updated their mini line. When I was shopping for both of my netbooks, HP was still behind the curve. 09:25 < TheLightCosine> wow nice 09:25 -!- zadeaux [n=zad@ws.nspnet.com] has joined #se2600 09:26 <@oddball> Yeah, my Aspire One has a 140GB... it's nice to be able to go to an office with that thing, plug it into the network, and ghost a bunch of machines off of it. 09:27 < Mercster> oddball: SSD, i think 09:29 <@oddball> 160GB and 140GB SSDs? ummm.... no 09:29 < TheLightCosine> hah that would be awesome 09:29 < Mercster> oddball: <@oddball> I fail to see how the mini 9 is better 09:29 < Mercster> not better, but, that's a difference 09:29 <@oddball> Well, my eee PC has 20GB SSD 09:30 <@aestetix> 160gd ssh would be hella expensive 09:31 < TheLightCosine> man 160GB SSD would be freaking sweet, it'd also cost a fortune but hey 09:31 < scribbles> the intel retailedge program is offering a 80gb SSD for $400 09:31 <@oddball> and I could have bought an Aspire One with a SSD for less than the Dell... so... no... no difference. 09:31 < TheLightCosine> I know SSD is way faster, is it more energy efficient too? 09:31 <@oddball> You can still get more for your money if you don't care about a Dell badge. Which, frankly, doesn't mean shit to me. 09:32 < Mercster> oddball: mini 9 can hold 2GB ram 09:32 <@oddball> It *can* be faster, and yes, it's more energy efficient 09:32 <@aestetix> This thing also has a 7 hour battery life 09:32 <@oddball> as can the eee PC and Aspire one... try again. 09:33 < TheLightCosine> aestetix: is that factory specs or realistic ones tho? 09:33 < TheLightCosine> like you turn wifi on and 7 goes to 4 =P 09:34 < Mercster> oddball: better display 09:34 * aestetix shrugs 09:36 <@aestetix> this guy is also really cute 09:36 <@aestetix> I think this is the first *new* laptop I've ever owned. 09:36 < Mercster> oddball: also, im pretty sure the mini 9 is cheaper than the eee 09:37 <@oddball> not unless things have changed in the past month. 09:37 <@oddball> which is possible 09:37 <@rhia> tempting topic--> this guy is also really cute 09:38 < Mercster> rhia: <@aestetix> Yeah, I figured the extra inch was worth the extra $100 this guy is also really cute 09:38 <@rhia> aestetix has a few of them this morning 09:38 <@aestetix> damn it 09:40 < TheLightCosine> lol 09:41 * Mercster comforts aestetix 09:41 <@aestetix> oh god no 09:42 < Mercster> WHY DO YOU ALWAYS PUSH ME AWAY 09:42 * rhia gives aestetix a cookie and a mug of coffee 09:43 <@aestetix> If you can't keep it in your pants, keep it in the channel. 09:43 < Mercster> swordfight! 09:43 <@oddball> Mercster: Ok, so specing out the dell vs the prices of the eee pc at amazon, the eee pc comes in lower in just about every case. 09:45 <@Shadow404> DYNDNS.COM gets hits by DOS attack on their webhop service 09:45 <@Shadow404> ffs 09:47 <@Shadow404> well theres my problem 09:49 <@Shadow404> http://status.dyn-inc.com/dyndns/ 09:50 <@aestetix> oddball: there is also a huge community devoted to linux on the eeepc 09:53 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@c-68-48-1-160.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 09:57 <@rhia> http://notalwaysright.com/thisisspyware/1371 10:00 -!- TheLightCosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-144c9ed49d792ac9] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 10:00 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:01 -!- nated0g_wrk [i=nated0g@river191.bigriver.net] has joined #se2600 10:07 <@oddball> aestetix: ....yes... and? 10:10 < nated0g_wrk> morning neegahs! 10:23 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 10:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 10:24 <@Shadow404> woohoo, dyndns back up 10:25 -!- Shadow404 changed the topic of #se2600 to: <@aestetix> this guy is also really cute 10:26 < Mercster> aestetix is dirty :( 10:27 <@Shadow404> rhia: i didnt even see your comment when i was going through the scroll back and immediately posted that line 10:27 <@aestetix> I hate you. 10:28 <@Shadow404> no u dont 10:29 < Mercster> aestetix: it is plain to everyone that you are morally bankrupt, therefore your hate is counted as a positive! 10:29 <@aestetix> I want a bailout. 10:29 < Mercster> heh 10:30 < Mercster> aestetix: federal? 10:30 <@aestetix> Sure. 10:30 <@aestetix> Might as well suckle the piggy. Everyone else is. 10:31 <@Drag0n> the money would do more good in the hands of the people than in the banks that already proved they cant handle it 10:35 < Mercster> ohhh 10:37 <@Drag0n> the same amount given to the big banks, distributed among all tax paying citizens over 18 would have done a hell of a lot more for the economy 10:42 -!- zadeaux is now known as zad|foood 11:01 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #se2600 11:15 -!- Synx_hm [n=mrfoo@adsl-249-145-4.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 11:15 < Synx_hm> Anybody wear contacts here? 11:17 <@rhia> not for years 11:17 < Synx_hm> nor have i for many years, i just got some today 11:17 <@rhia> i can't - cornea's don't like them 11:18 < Synx_hm> i am having a bitch of a time telling if my vision feels worse with them in or my glasses on 11:18 < Synx_hm> not to mention i got in the habbit of looking over my glasses at the computer and other shit up close :( 11:18 <@rhia> just adjusting for the distance of the lens from the eye 11:18 < Synx_hm> ya 11:18 < Synx_hm> i really wish i had 2020 11:18 < Mercster> ill never wear contacts 11:19 < Mercster> never have, never will 11:19 < Synx_hm> oh and they could get me to 2015 even with the contacts 11:19 < Mercster> been wearing glasses since 12 or so 11:19 < Synx_hm> cound't that is 11:19 < Mercster> the vanity factor could never over-rule price and convenience 11:20 < Mercster> plus, i dont wanna touch my eyeball 11:20 < Synx_hm> not really vanity for me, i rather look good in glasses 11:20 < Mercster> what is it then? 11:21 <@rattle> So far this week we've had two state governors at events.. Today we've got two congressmen and two generals.. Events have been getting better since Obama won. 11:21 <@rattle> http://www.americanprogressaction.org/events/2008/12/milinheritance.html/streaming.html 11:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: You could always go for the alternative $2500 procedure 11:21 < Synx_hm> i fly with a helmet that does not feel very good with my glasses on, and i would really like to be able to toss on some sunglasses and not have to hunt out my perscrition glasses 11:21 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: heh, good luck to me for ever having that much dough ;-) 11:21 < Mercster> Synx_hm: ahh, nod 11:21 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: some of us can't do that, either 11:21 < Mercster> guess that's valid 11:21 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: why not? 11:21 <@rhia> my surgical option is cornea transplants 11:22 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: I had astigmatism, and I got it done 11:22 < Synx_hm> they can do that now!?! 11:22 < Mercster> on that front, i never try to move fast enough with insufficient coverage to need a helmet 11:22 < Synx_hm> Mercster: i fly in the USAF dont have a choice 11:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: does your workplace offer a Flexible Spending Account? 11:22 < Mercster> Synx_hm: nod 11:22 <@rhia> doesn't do any good to get lasik if the corneas are pitted and misshapen (like mine) 11:22 < Synx_hm> Mercster: sucking on a hose (o2) aint that fun either 11:23 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: if it did, i wouldnt consider contacts :P 11:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: No, an FSA for a single year can give you enough dough for LASIK 11:23 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: ah. well im unemployed so.. 11:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: I wore glasses from 3rd grade until just a few months ago 11:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: ouch 11:24 < Synx_hm> Corydon76-dig: you get PRK or lasic? 11:24 <@Corydon76-dig> LASIK 11:24 < Synx_hm> cool 11:24 < Synx_hm> it hurt? 11:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Synx_hm: Yeah, you'd need PRK 11:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Nope 11:24 <@Drag0n> fsa'a re the biggest scam, "here, we will hold your money for you, but you can only spend it in certain ways, and if you dont spend it, oh well, you loose it" 11:24 < Synx_hm> i cant stand pokeing my eye evenwith contacts but i dont know if i could deal with that 11:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: Not a scam, if you can spend at least 2/3rds of it in a calendar year, you come out ahead 11:25 < Synx_hm> Corydon76-dig: yup PRK, but i have heard they might start doing/allowing LASIK now... although either way the wavers you have to get to be able to fly even after approvial to get the operation make it not so much of an option 11:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: every year I've had one, I've exceeded the limit 11:25 <@Drag0n> its a scam in that they count on you NOT to spend that much 11:25 < Mercster> ive lived more than half of my life with glasses, il get by 11:25 < Synx_hm> Corydon76-dig: ive had friends get it done and then have the USAF tell them they cant fly anymore after approving it. ID BE SO PISSED 11:26 < Synx_hm> Drag0n: i dont get it, why not just save the money yourself, or do they match some of it? 11:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Synx_hm: What, suddenly the USAF can't use you anymore, and you just get paid to do nothing? 11:26 <@Drag0n> supposedly its pre tax savings, but again, with the gamble that if you dont use it, you loose it 11:26 < Synx_hm> Corydon76-dig: they make you a desk weenie ;) 11:26 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: USAF will find some use for him 11:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: the money comes out pretax, so you get to spend pretax money on medical bills 11:27 <@Corydon76-dig> and dental, too 11:27 < Synx_hm> ahh thats cool 11:27 <@nachoguy> Drag0n, use it to buy toothbrushes and bandaids (they count), and sell them on Ebay 11:27 < Mercster> sounds like my friend, who believes mail-in rebates a scam, mainly because he cant get his ass in gear enough to send them in 11:27 < Mercster> nothing is a "scam" until your own actions make it so 11:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, and prescription drugs, too 11:28 < Mercster> if you do the math yourself and take advantage of things like that, it's never a scam 11:28 <@Drag0n> if you can garuntee using it, then its good, but for the most part, people DONT want to see a doctor or take medical time 11:28 <@Corydon76-dig> copays 11:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Even OTC drugs, in some cases 11:28 < Synx_hm> but no hookers and blow ? 11:29 <@Drag0n> the biggest scam part is the use it or loose it part, Its MY money damn it, what right do they have to say they can keep what i rightfully earned? 11:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: You don't have to save the maximum under FSA every year. You ARE permitted to declare whatever deduction you want 11:29 < Synx_hm> i am giving up on GRUB on this netbook it just will not work, lilo or lvm? 11:29 < Mercster> Drag0n: did you put the money into the flex pay system? 11:29 <@Drag0n> no 11:29 < Mercster> then you're not being scammed 11:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: With that attitude, you might as well only spend post-tax dollars 11:29 < Mercster> :) 11:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: but I'll be able to save more than you 11:29 <@Drag0n> corydon, thats what i do untill that clause is removed 11:30 < Mercster> people who opt-in to programs, not take advantage of it, and then whine amuse me 11:30 < Mercster> if it is indeed a scam, you've just scammed yourself 11:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: there's an alternative... an HSP 11:30 <@Drag0n> how about we get dental treated the same as all other medical treatments? 11:31 <@Corydon76-dig> HSPs roll over each year. They allow you to build up pretax dollars for medical care 11:31 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: H? 11:31 <@Drag0n> if i have medical insurance and need dental work, its the same coverage as all other medical 11:31 <@Corydon76-dig> but not all employers offer them. 11:32 <@Corydon76-dig> except that the FSA covers your copays 11:32 < Mercster> let me tell you how it will be 11:32 < Mercster> there's 1 for you, 19 for me 11:32 < Mercster> TAX MAAAAAAAN 11:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n: it may be their game, but if you learn to play, you'll come out ahead 11:33 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: HELL NO WE WONT GO 11:34 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: everyone needs a hobby...some people choose being outraged by "the man" 11:34 <@Drag0n> its that "game" that got us in the current financial crisis 11:34 < Mercster> lol 11:35 <@Catonic> Drag0n: my shock was finding out that the mental health stuff is covered under a slightly different plan with different numbers. 11:35 <@Catonic> and that ADD & ADHD are classified as mental health. 11:38 < Synx_hm> anyone ever seen anything like this before? http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub@gnu.org/msg05815.html 11:43 <@Shadow404> its all about you paying the premium of course 11:43 <@Shadow404> so the more they can split up the plans, themore they can make u pay premiums 11:44 <@nachoguy> mercster, good song 11:44 < Mercster> nachoguy: :) yup 11:45 <@rhia> bugs me that vision and dental are NOT 'medical' ..... um, your eyes and your teeth are as much a part of your body as your ears, fingers, etc .... 11:48 <@nachoguy> yeah, I had fun with that. Oral surgeon couldn't file the paperwork properly (dental instead of medical) so the insurance kept kicking it back, and then I'd get nice bills. 11:52 <@Catonic> and the insurance is a pain in the ass in general 11:52 <@nachoguy> yep, 11:52 <@nachoguy> err s/,// 11:52 <@Catonic> Shadow404: not exactly... preminums are the cost + overhead 11:52 <@Catonic> can't spell today 11:53 <@Catonic> and when you look at the overhead cost of insurance, it's staggering 11:53 <@Catonic> met an insurance programmer last night... 11:54 <@Catonic> "they just give me data and tell me what the output should look like. I just have to come up with the equation." 11:54 < Mercster> waiting fgor 11:54 < Mercster> a sleepy feeling.. 11:55 < Synx_hm> how do i paste in VIM? 11:55 < Falun|home> from a a vim buffer? p 11:56 < Synx_hm> system buffer? 11:56 < Mercster> dd/p 11:56 < Falun|home> Synx_hm: usually middle click while in insert mode 11:56 < Falun|home> but not all the time 11:56 < Synx_hm> i only have two buttons 11:57 < Synx_hm> hehe 11:57 < Falun|home> both at the same time 11:57 < Mercster> haha 11:57 < Mercster> Falun|home: only if he has Emulate3Buttons! 11:57 < Mercster> what a conundrume 11:57 < Mercster> -e 11:57 < Synx_hm> damn it 11:57 < Falun|home> Mercster: most distros do afaik 11:57 < Mercster> the answer is to learn marking in vi 11:57 <@critch> Synx_hm: shift-ins 11:57 < Synx_hm> ctrl-shift-v worked 11:58 < Synx_hm> i guess ctrl-c hadn't worked before and thats why it didn't work the first time 11:59 < Mercster> Falun|home: granted, using X11 is easier 11:59 < Mercster> for that shiz 12:00 <@critch> Mercster: using X11 for copy past is nice if the source is in a different app or in different term, but inside vim, use vim, much easier to tell it what you want. 12:01 < eryc> vi doesnt have marking 12:01 <@critch> Mercster: use shift-v for line at a time selecting, use ctrl-v for block select. ctrl-v is good for selecting a single column for changing or deleting. 12:02 < Mercster> As a result, vi has another method of text manipulation that involves marking text. Vi is capable of marking 26 different locations in a file. To mark a location in a text file move the cursor to the desired location and type m followed by the name you want to use. Each lowercase letter of the alphabet is a name. 12:02 < Mercster> BOOOOOOOOM 12:02 -!- uSynx [n=synx@adsl-249-145-4.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 12:03 < Mercster> critch: if you say so. these days i just use the native c/p facilities of the wnidowing system 12:04 <@critch> Mercster: the c/p facilities of the windowing system doesn't let you copy just a specific column, unless I am missing something. 12:05 < uSynx> crtl-shift is the x11 way to copy/paste from the term correct? 12:05 < Mercster> column, vertically? 12:05 <@critch> oh, nm, just found out you can ctrl click to box select 12:05 <@critch> Mercster: yes vertically 12:09 <@critch> sweet, I just learned a really useful bit of info. 12:09 < uSynx> and that is? 12:10 < Mercster> i just farted and it smelled like decaying death 12:10 <@critch> the ctrl click select, in the gnome term at least, lets me do box selects. 12:11 <@critch> doesn't work in iceape,mozilla, or iceweasel 12:11 < uSynx> damn it i really wish this stupid synaptic driver would do two finger scrolling and three/two finger clicking like i told it to in the hal config 12:11 < uSynx> AHHHH! 12:11 < Mercster> in cygwin (possibly other terminals) i was delighted to find shift-leftbutton pastes, as my scroll wheel is going to shit regarding clicks 12:12 < Mercster> my mouse wont reliably middle click, but shift-left works fine 12:12 < Mercster> so it's how i paste now 12:12 <@critch> Mercster: shift-insert should also paste 12:12 < Mercster> <@critch> Mercster: shift-insert should also paste 12:12 < Mercster> critch: hmm, yep 12:13 < Mercster> shift-mouse works best tho since your hand is usually there after copying anyway 12:13 < Mercster> FOR ME 12:13 < Mercster> it's a strongly personal decision 12:13 -!- uSynx [n=synx@adsl-249-145-4.shv.bellsouth.net] has quit ["leaving"] 12:13 <@critch> I'm not trying to change what is best for you, just making you aware of alternatives for when your hands are already on the keyboard. 12:13 < Mercster> hehe 12:13 < Mercster> i hear ya man 12:14 < Mercster> i need a new mouse 12:14 < Mercster> i had a logitech optical mouse but i dunno wtf it is 12:14 < Mercster> ive been making do with crappy cheap mice since 12:14 < Mercster> middle click has gone to shit 12:14 -!- zad|foood is now known as zadeaux 12:15 < Mercster> shift-leftbutton isnt too bad tho 12:15 < Mercster> mainly gotten my fine-motor control to do it automatically at this point 12:16 < eryc> http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/124496/detail/ 12:18 < Mercster> eryc: weird 12:18 < Mercster> looks like one of those inflatable things 12:19 -!- uSynx [n=synx@222.sub-97-24-65.myvzw.com] has joined #se2600 12:19 < uSynx> great i can upload faster via my verizon evdo connection then i can on my home dsl 12:19 <@nachoguy> bond the connections 12:19 <@oddball> nice! 12:20 < uSynx> nach i would but i dont pay for the tether plan 12:20 < uSynx> ;) 12:20 < uSynx> bit of a scam on my part so i keep the tethering to a min so they dont figure it out 12:21 <@oddball> AT&T hasn't caught me yet. 12:21 < uSynx> hehe nice 12:21 <@oddball> Of course, I don't use it day in/day out. I just use it when I'm not at home and not near wifi. 12:22 <@oddball> Honestly, if AT&T charged an extra $5 or so ontop of my unlimited data plan, I'd probably pay it. 12:23 <@nachoguy> they won't, unless you go into the multi gig range 12:23 <@nachoguy> I used to do it all the time 12:23 <@oddball> But since I'd have to do something financially stupid to do it legit... fuck 'em. They can't tell the difference in the data anyways. 12:23 <@oddball> nachoguy: that's what I figured 12:24 < uSynx> thats about how i feel 12:24 < uSynx> hrm it seems to rc.local is not getting run on boot 12:24 <@I-MOD> make sure S99local is in your current runlevel? 12:25 <@I-MOD> or stop using windows :D 12:25 < uSynx> where the runlevel ini dir again 12:25 < uSynx> /etc/... 12:25 < Mercster> rc.d 12:26 < uSynx> damn it that right 12:26 * I-MOD is usually on rc2.d or rc3.d 12:27 < uSynx> whats default multiuser runlevel? 12:27 < Mercster> 3 12:27 <@critch> uSynx: depends on distro 12:27 < uSynx> ubuntu 12:27 <@critch> then it is probably 2 12:27 < uSynx> or how do i check what runlevel i am in? 12:28 < Mercster> ps should display the runlevel next to the init process 12:28 < Mercster> ps ax | grep init 12:28 < Mercster> there may be a fancier way 12:29 < uSynx> nope :( 12:29 <@critch> try the command runlevel 12:29 < Mercster> try 'runlevel' 12:29 < uSynx> rgr 12:30 < uSynx> i was looking at runlevel --help and didnt' see a print switch haha 12:30 < uSynx> i guess just runlevel would have worked 12:30 < uSynx> ya ubuntu is 2 12:30 <@critch> Debian based systems don't make a difference between graphical runlevels and non graphical. So 2 is the first multiuser runlevel. 12:30 < Mercster> historically '3' is multi-user non-X, 5 is multi-user X11 12:31 < Mercster> i dont know much about ubuntu init process 12:31 <@critch> Redhat and some others put X11 stuff in runlevel 3, so switching between console only and X11 required shutting down some services and starting stuff 12:31 <@I-MOD> i thought ubuntu switchted over to upstart 12:32 <@I-MOD> meh, maybe they're still using SYSV emulation under upstart 12:32 < uSynx> man i get the pleasure of using an old unix sysv system at work 12:32 < uSynx> pain in my ass 12:34 < Mercster> yay standards 12:35 < uSynx> brb 12:35 -!- uSynx [n=synx@222.sub-97-24-65.myvzw.com] has quit ["leaving"] 12:40 < Mercster> unix is hard, let's go shopping 12:40 < Synx_hm> haha 12:41 < Synx_hm> the yoshimi battles the pink robots flaming lips album rocks 12:52 -!- scud [n=scud@user-69-73-16-86.knology.net] has joined #se2600 12:52 < scud> Catonic: you smell like virgin olive oil 13:00 < Mercster> when all is said and done... 13:00 < Mercster> we're not the only ones 13:00 < Mercster> who look at life this way... 13:00 < Mercster> that's what the old folks say 13:01 <@coil> scud, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 13:02 < scud> coil: scoot! 13:03 < scud> coil: have you came out of the closet yet? 13:03 <@coil> lol 13:04 <@coil> uhm like a few years ago 13:04 < Mercster> shitcoil 13:04 < scud> coil: have you called larry craig yet? 13:04 <@coil> no u 13:04 < scud> coil: you two would be great together 13:04 <@coil> pics 13:04 < scud> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig 13:05 <@coil> ohhh him 13:05 < scud> coil: what do your parents think about having a son that is a proud alternative lifestyle individual? 13:06 <@coil> they e all the same 13:06 <@coil> they love me all the same 13:06 <@coil> hey man im trying to jerk off here and you keep asking questions, you're really killing my boner 13:07 < scud> coil: shit in a bag and put it around your head. you should be able to start back in no time. 13:09 < scud> coil: it should be that one time your mom and dad walked in on you 13:11 <@coil> they never did that 13:12 < Mercster> it's important to lock the door whilst jacking off into the sink 13:13 < scud> coil: you know.... the barely legal scott.tv online reality tv show but flopped due to low niche audience demand 13:14 <@coil> shit man i've grown a lil scud 13:15 < scud> coil: half a inch isn't a little 13:15 <@coil> it's a lot 13:15 <@coil> to some people 13:16 < Mercster> it matters for your self esteen 13:16 < scud> coil: maybe to an asian chick 13:16 < Mercster> imagine measuring yourself and its only 5" 13:16 < Mercster> then imagine measuring and it's 5.5" 13:16 < Mercster> that's much closer to 6" 13:16 < scud> depends on where you put the ruler 13:16 <@coil> mines more like 7" though 13:16 < scud> ...or tape measure. 13:16 <@coil> i dont wanna know your cocksize Mercster 13:17 < Mercster> im not saying my cocksiz 13:17 < Mercster> im just illustrating what half an inch could mean to one's self worth 13:17 < Mercster> as a man 13:17 <@coil> oh what you want your cocksize to be? 13:18 < scud> you two stop talking about cocksizes already. 13:19 <@coil> you started it 13:19 <@coil> by just living 13:19 < scud> coil: do not bring Jesus into this 13:19 < scud> coil: there is nothing wrong with being jewish 13:19 <@coil> is he your cousin or something 13:19 < Mercster> ... 13:20 < scud> coil: actually i'm the blood line. i'm the holy grail. 13:20 < scud> coil: there i said it. 13:20 <@coil> oh i see what you did there 13:20 < scud> coil: i feel better now. 13:20 < Mercster> shamwow 13:20 < Mercster> you know the germans always make good stuff 13:21 < scud> mercster: i dried drying myself clean with one of those and it made my skin burn and flake off 13:21 < Mercster> scud: are you calling vince a liar? 13:22 < scud> mercster: i'm sure they make good stuff but not for jews 13:22 < Mercster> jews are always a problem 13:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: so what IS your dick size, if not 5"? 13:22 < scud> mercster: i know. we make too much money and don't want to spend any of it. 13:22 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: find another boyfriend, queer 13:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: and does it curve like a banana? 13:22 < scud> corydon: your dicksize is always the length of your nick/handle 13:23 < Mercster> scud: plus you wont even buy shamwow 13:23 < Mercster> you'll say wow every time 13:24 < Mercster> what are your guys' favorite vince quotes 13:24 < Mercster> mine is "see? there's your mildew. that is gonna smell" 13:24 <@Corydon76-dig> scud: Are you saying you have a tiny penis? 13:25 <@coil> scud, are you still impreginating that mexican bitch 13:25 < scud> mercster: my gentile girlfriend used it when she was on the rag once and i said that exact quote. she busted out laughing. 13:25 < Mercster> scud: hahah 13:25 < Mercster> THAT IS GONNA SMELL 13:26 < scud> coil: thats coil reinforcement that. spring action. 13:26 < scud> err that/there 13:26 <@coil> stfu plz kthx 13:27 < Mercster> i hate it when i download a DVD and its actually in raw DVD format, with all the VOBs and shit 13:27 < scud> mercster: there programs to create an iso file out of those but i cant think of it right now 13:28 < scud> coil: you're my boy blue! you're my boy. 13:28 < Mercster> yeah well, i have a program that could convert it into one big file but still, i think i did enough hard work finding it on netnews in the first place 13:28 < Mercster> all i want is one big avi 13:29 < Mercster> IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK 13:29 < Mercster> apparently so 13:29 < Mercster> so ill be quiet now 13:30 < scud> i must go. the world needs me. 13:31 < scud> coil: scott, i'm just fucking with ya bro. no beef. i love ya like you were my gay love child. 13:31 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:32 <@Corydon76-dig> scud: That only works if you're giving him cock 13:32 < scud> coil: remember back in the day we all had our hsv2600 power rings and after the meetings we would put them together and yell "go hsv2600. power to all." in the mall? 13:32 < Mercster> :\ 13:33 < scud> corydon: i do but only in words 13:33 <@coil> fuck yeah scud 13:33 <@coil> ur my home boy 13:33 < scud> ICP - Homies 13:34 <@coil> ewww icp 13:34 <@coil> except for that one song 13:34 < scud> too 1999 for you? 13:34 <@coil> yeah 13:34 <@coil> shit man i was listenin to that crap back then 13:34 < scud> i remember you saying you liked them 13:35 <@coil> shit changes? 13:35 < scud> then me saying to myself "he is such a lamer." 13:36 < Mercster> in 1999 i was listening to 311 13:36 < scud> coil: fuck yeah. you're like a college graduate doing biochemisty shit now i hear 13:36 <@coil> ok shit is over 13:36 <@coil> nah man 13:36 <@coil> i dont have money :( 13:36 <@Shadow404> in 1999 i was listening to your mother moan 13:36 <@Corydon76-dig> scud: You don't have to be gay to like fucking guys 13:36 < scud> coil: did jon ever finish going to auburn for the optical degree 13:36 <@Corydon76-dig> and coil would really appreciate it 13:37 < Synx_hm> anyone play resistance2? 13:37 <@coil> no scud he moved to comp sci 13:37 <@coil> no wait 13:37 <@coil> he 'moved to EE 13:37 <@coil> some shit like that 13:37 < scud> corydon: to be honest, i'm a lesbian in drag and my stage name is la-wanda jones 13:38 <@coil> scud get your facts straight 13:38 < scud> corydon: i perform broadway and have dated sean penn before 13:38 <@coil> you can't just come barging in here after being gone for 2 years 13:38 < scud> corydon: actually he studied me for his role in milk 13:38 < Mercster> lol 13:39 < scud> coil: you had your chance to fuck hugme and move to LA 13:39 <@coil> who 13:39 < Mercster> fuck'n'hug me 13:39 <@Corydon76-dig> scud: Hugme is married. To a woman. 13:40 <@Shadow404> thats no woman! 13:40 <@coil> see that buldge 13:40 < scud> its a MAN, baby! 13:40 <@coil> who the fuck is hugme 13:41 < Mercster> shitcoil: prolly dont wanna know 13:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Guy who used to come to PhreakNIC, dressed like Dr. Frank N Furter 13:41 <@Shadow404> where is jonnyx when u need him to explain somehting? 13:41 <@aestetix> hugme rocks. 13:41 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: he got a haircut too. 13:41 <@coil> Mercster, please dont call me that 13:41 < Mercster> coil: :( 13:41 <@Shadow404> coil: just diaf 13:42 < scud> ok i'm done fucking off. i'm bored now. 13:42 < scud> later. 13:42 -!- scud [n=scud@user-69-73-16-86.knology.net] has left #se2600 ["Ex-Chat"] 13:42 * Corydon76-dig shaves Shadow404's pubes 13:42 <@Shadow404> no thanks, i already trimmed them 13:42 < Mercster> but dont step to me 13:42 <@Corydon76-dig> I just want you to itch for a week 13:43 < Mercster> when things dont go as you planned 13:43 < Mercster> no 13:43 < Mercster> i dont give a damn 13:43 < Mercster> o/~ 13:45 < nated0g_wrk> mmm taco bell for lunch 13:45 < nated0g_wrk> newspaper in the bathroom stall already 13:45 < nated0g_wrk> my afternoon is set! 13:45 <@coil> speaking of shaving 13:45 < Synx_hm> i hate shaving 13:46 <@coil> Synx_hm, thats why i dont usually 13:46 <@coil> i haven't in a few weeks 13:46 <@coil> i got that beard 13:46 < nated0g_wrk> wife informed me i was getting a unibrow...time to get it waxed 13:46 < Mercster> fuck that, just shave it 13:46 < nated0g_wrk> been couple months..ill get a haircut too 13:46 < Mercster> that whole "grows back faster" crap is a myth 13:47 < Synx_hm> i wish we could have more than a pederstash in the military 13:47 < nated0g_wrk> pederstash? 13:47 < Mercster> besides, even if it does grow back faster, how long does it take to shave a unibrow 13:47 < Mercster> 3-6 seconds 13:47 < Synx_hm> pedafile moustache 13:47 < Synx_hm> dont shave the uni pluck it 13:47 < Mercster> lol 13:47 < Mercster> plucking is for females 13:48 < Mercster> SHAVE IT 13:48 < nated0g_wrk> wax it 13:48 < nated0g_wrk> i aint that big of a redneck..it dont feel bad 13:48 < zadeaux> wax for the purposes of hair removal will never touch my body 13:48 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Perhaps you and your lack of facial hair should remain silent. 13:49 <@Dagmar> Plucking is for hairs you don't want back anytime soon. 13:49 < Mercster> Dagmar: lol 13:49 < Synx_hm> werd 13:49 < Synx_hm> i wish i had not shaved my chest, now ive got a fucking moustache on it 13:49 <@Dagmar> Notably, plucking is pure win if you grow a goatee 13:50 < Mercster> Dagmar: listen, you wanna be a woman about it, that's fine, but dont try to cast aspersions on my facial hair because of it 13:50 <@Dagmar> Mercster: You have fun explaining razor burn in the middle of a forehead then 13:50 < Mercster> dude, it's a tiny patch of nothing 13:50 < Mercster> there isnt enough room for razor burn 13:50 < Mercster> besides it's only burn when you go over it like a damned lawnmower 13:51 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but it means the difference between normal eyebrows and looking like you'd fallen a few branches down the evolutionary tree. 13:51 < Mercster> a simple swipe once every month or so is sufficient 13:51 < Mercster> well, it sounds like you have a problem with hand eye coordination, in that case 13:51 <@coil> why are you trying to hide yourself 13:51 <@Dagmar> Plucking 3-4 times will likely get rid of the problem forever 13:51 < Mercster> ok lady 13:51 <@Dagmar> Okay kid 13:51 < Mercster> from now im im going to picture you you plucking your hair out 13:51 < Mercster> like a lady 13:51 <@rhia> hiccup when plucking, one missing hair, hiccup when shaving, one missing eyebrow 13:51 <@coil> but doesn't plucking hurt!!! 13:52 <@Dagmar> coil: Pansy 13:52 < Mercster> Dagmar: ill put my beard up against yours anyday 13:52 <@Dagmar> Trying to keep a straight line on a goatee first thing in the morning is insanity 13:52 < Mercster> Dagmar: lol "pansy", coming from a dude who uses tweezers on his face 13:52 < Mercster> what a lady 13:52 <@coil> inorite 13:52 <@Dagmar> coil: One hair doesn't hurt enough to matter unless it's coming out of your nose 13:53 <@coil> plucking nose hairs now? 13:53 <@Dagmar> Hell no. That's madness. 13:53 < zadeaux> my eyes just watered 13:53 <@Dagmar> Unless, of course you *like* spending 10 minutes in front of the bathroom sink with your eyes watering 13:54 < Mercster> how about spending 10 minutes in front opf the bathroom sink with your vagina watering 13:54 < Mercster> plucking your eyebrows 13:54 < Mercster> lol 13:54 <@Dagmar> You could make an argument that involuntary nose-hair plucking might actually be forbidden by the Geneva convention 13:54 <@coil> shit man 13:55 <@Dagmar> THat shit causes more grief than should even be possible for just one hair 13:59 < Mercster> this has been lady hour, hosted by Dagmar 14:00 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]"] 14:01 < Synx_hm> badass 14:01 < Synx_hm> http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg279x/Digitally_Assisted_Billards/Welcome.html 14:02 < Mercster> Synx_hm: best way to learn angles is to run drills on a table 14:03 < Synx_hm> i just though it was a cool project 14:03 < Synx_hm> slow but cool 14:03 < Synx_hm> oh and i suck at billiards :( 14:03 < Mercster> heh 14:04 < Synx_hm> god damn it 14:05 < Synx_hm> no matter what i do twofingerscroll will not fucking work 14:05 <@Catonic_lp> holy shit, it's scud... 14:12 <@Catonic_lp> eyebrows, wax. nosehairs, pluck. 14:13 <@Catonic_lp> eventually, you get used to it and it doesn't hurt so much 14:13 <@coil> Catonic_lp, a bit lagged are we? 14:13 <@coil> why you gotta bring up the past man 14:13 <@coil> Synx_hm, that pool shit is cool 14:14 <@Catonic_lp> coil: because I was at lunch 14:14 <@coil> was scuds cock good 14:15 <@Catonic_lp> coil: I don't know. I didn't know him like you knew him. 14:15 <@coil> that's not what i heard 14:19 <@Dagmar> http://failblog.org/2008/12/09/pengwin/ 14:20 <@coil> Dagmar, http://www.davidbowieisverydisappointedinyou.com/ 14:22 < Mercster> hah 14:22 <@Dagmar> I fail to see the point. 14:23 -!- coil is now known as luvstehcawk 14:23 < Mercster> Dagmar: ironic 14:23 < Mercster> emulate a sun2: http://www.ilvsun3.com/ 14:23 <@polerin> heh 14:23 < Synx_hm> Dagmar: holy shit, i would not let that little fucker stay in the boat 14:24 <@polerin> that's really funny actually 14:24 <@polerin> Dagmar: was that the penguin and the killer whale? 14:24 < Synx_hm> those whales are likely to eat everyone int he boat including the whale 14:24 -!- luvstehcawk is now known as luvstehvagg 14:24 < Synx_hm> damn it... including the penguin 14:24 <@Dagmar> polerin: whales, plural 14:24 <@polerin> yeh. 14:25 <@Dagmar> He's just having himself a ball 14:25 <@polerin> saw that a week or two ago 14:25 <@Dagmar> Those sharks might just be playing as well 14:25 <@luvstehvagg> hi im not gay 14:25 <@polerin> hehe yeah he's just looking around etc. 14:26 -!- luvstehvagg is now known as coil 14:45 <@rhia> http://totallylookslike.com/2008/12/08/a-brain-cell-totally-looks-like-the-universe/ 14:47 <@tzanger> rhia: each of our neurons is a universe to something within that neuron 14:50 -!- mubix [n=mubix@c-76-104-34-83.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:51 < Mercster> mm 15:00 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 15:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 15:07 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:09 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 15:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 15:22 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #se2600 15:39 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:45 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:45 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 15:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 16:09 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 16:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil] by ChanServ 16:09 < Synx_hm> http://gizmodo.com/5106129/giz-explains-everything-you-need-to-know-about-hard-drives 16:19 -!- zadeaux [n=zad@ws.nspnet.com] has quit [] 16:20 -!- rattleX [n=rattle@65.199.13.42] has joined #se2600 16:21 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 16:43 -!- rattleX [n=rattle@65.199.13.42] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:48 * Mercster watches 'Brazil' 16:49 <@Drag0n> tutle? 16:49 < Mercster> BUTTLE 16:50 < Mercster> "Hello there. I'd like to talk to you about ducts." 16:52 <@Drag0n> my good friends call me harry 16:53 <+SmthingPrductive> Hairy Ducts? 16:54 <@Drag0n> do you have a 27b/6? 16:54 < Mercster> ...Not as such...! 16:55 <@Corydon76-dig> How about a howto on caulk? 16:56 <@nachoguy> Does the caulk have a flavor? 16:57 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig prefers black caulk 16:58 <@Drag0n> its good for his crack 16:58 < Mercster> h0h0h0 16:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Nah, brown caulk (otherwise known as Messican caulk) 17:00 <@Drag0n> well, thats always god for sneaking in when you arent looking 17:00 <@Drag0n> good 17:02 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:02 <+SmthingPrductive> Corydon76-dig: http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/article/0,,203227,00.html or http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/skill-builder/0,,203688,00.html 17:06 <@Corydon76-dig> SmthingPrductive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag6ZLSW_dD8 17:08 < Mercster> rofl 17:09 <@rhia> http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/74932 17:09 < Mercster> Drag0n: where he starts to sing back to the singing telegram 17:10 < Mercster> "It's reply paid!" "Oh..is it...*ahem* o/~ Moootheeerr, I;m sorrry, but I cant come to your paaa-haaa-" 17:10 < Mercster> "You dont have to sing it!" 17:10 <@Drag0n> yep 17:13 < Mercster> snip snip, slice slice... 17:20 <@aestetix> hahaha 17:20 <@aestetix> I just created an 8 meg reiserfs partition for the mount point "/murder" 17:21 < Mercster> aestetix: roflololfolo!111! 17:21 < Mercster> eleven 17:22 < Mercster> "No, in triplicate!" 17:22 -!- rattleX [n=rattle@c-98-233-94-192.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:24 < Mercster> rattleX: hi, im the beaded dude you drove to phreaknic 17:25 <@sdodson> beaded? 17:25 <@sdodson> dirty fucking hippy 17:25 < Mercster> bearded :( 17:25 < Mercster> hippy either way i suppose 17:25 <@sdodson> oh, dirty fucking hipster 17:25 < Mercster> my beard is more, backwoods redneck 17:25 <@sdodson> There's a difference! 17:25 < Mercster> than hippy 17:25 <@sdodson> oh, word, represent! 17:25 < Mercster> hehe 17:26 < Mercster> ive shaved it off since tho, only have a goatee left 17:26 < Mercster> quite a long fucking goatee 17:47 <@aestetix> fucking hell 17:47 <@aestetix> I just spent 2 hours getting ubuntu installed on my eeepc 17:47 <@aestetix> only to discover there is a flavor of ubuntu specifically made to work on it 17:47 <@Dagmar> Could be worse 17:48 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to put it on an external USB drive and something keeps screwing up the partitions 17:48 < Mercster> aestetix: xandros not awesome, eh 17:48 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling i need to go look at the spec for how these are supposed to function again 17:49 < Mercster> i wonder how fedora core would fare on those things 17:50 < Mercster> i was looking at the aspire one earlier, apparently it ships with something called "linpussy" 17:50 < Mercster> "Linpus Lite" 17:50 <@Dagmar> You know, if you're gay you can admit it here. 17:50 <@Dagmar> We don't really care. 17:51 <@aestetix> We only care if you're a virgin. 17:51 < Mercster> im just the right amount of gay 17:52 <@Dagmar> Seems like that's well on the far side of "gay" 17:52 <@Dagmar> Straight men don't generally use "pussy" as a derogatory term so often. 17:52 <@Dagmar> ...because they like pussy. 17:52 < Mercster> Dagmar: im not ready to date right now :( 17:52 < Mercster> Dagmar: haha 17:53 < Mercster> 1) it's called linpus, extrapolating "linpussy" from that isnt a stretch 17:53 < Mercster> 2) dont overcompensate 17:53 < Mercster> 3) dont be a pussy 17:54 < Mercster> aestetix: Dagmar was telling me i dont have any facial hair earlier, therefore i shouldnt be giving tips on shaving 17:54 <@Dagmar> Really. 17:55 <@Dagmar> You should try and quote where I made that argument. 17:55 <@aestetix> Do you have any leg hair? 17:55 < Mercster> it wasnt really an argument, just a dumbfuck statement 17:55 < Mercster> <@Dagmar> Mercster: Perhaps you and your lack of facial hair should 17:55 < Mercster> remain silent. 17:55 <@Dagmar> No, the dumbfuck statement is you saying that I said you don't have any facial hair. 17:55 <@Dagmar> ...along with your insistence at calling everything you disagree with "pussy". 17:56 < Mercster> aestetix: i shaved for you <3 17:56 <@aestetix> >_< 17:56 <@Dagmar> Did your mother hold you down and pluck your eyebrows when you were a small child and traumatize you or what? 17:56 < Mercster> Dagmar's just mad that i questioned the masculinity of plucking your eyebrows 17:57 < Mercster> now im a closet fag cuz i called Linpus "linpussy" 17:57 <@Dagmar> Feel free. 17:57 < Mercster> i do feel free 17:57 <@Dagmar> Just expect that we'll think you're an jackass. 17:57 < Mercster> born freeeeee o/~ 17:57 < Mercster> Dagmar: who's we? 17:57 <@aestetix> Could be worse. 17:57 <@Dagmar> Everyone here who has grown a goatee except for you, apparently. 17:57 < Mercster> lol 17:58 <@Dagmar> Plucking the hairs that grow near is a lot easier than trying to keep from fucking things up using a razor every morning. 17:58 <@Dagmar> ...and the same goes for using a damn razor on your forehead. 17:58 < eryc> i would advise against growing a goatse 17:58 <@Dagmar> eryc: lol 17:58 < Mercster> eryc: painful 17:58 <@aestetix> eryc: slow gradual steps 17:58 < Mercster> aestetix: incremental diameters? 17:59 <@aestetix> Mercster: You can do it. 17:59 < Mercster> im just waiting for the day that i graduate to mason jars 17:59 <@aestetix> But how do you trip a goatse? 18:00 < Mercster> time for jim lehrer 18:00 < Mercster> aestetix: if any tips on facial hair come up, log them for me 18:00 < Mercster> im lost in that dept 18:01 <@Dagmar> Obviously. 18:01 <@aestetix> trim* 18:01 <@Dagmar> *Not* shaving is not something that qualifies you to berate other people on how they do it, dipshit. 18:01 < Mercster> how about not plucking 18:01 < Mercster> where do i sit therer 18:02 <@Dagmar> Apparently with your head shoved firmly up your ass. 18:02 < Mercster> :-) 18:02 < Mercster> :-)> 18:03 < Mercster> Dagmar: do you have one of those george michaels goatees where it looks penciled on because it's so exactly groomed 18:03 <@Dagmar> You just can't handle any pain. That's what it is. 18:03 < Mercster> like an old lady's eyebrows 18:03 <@Dagmar> You tried it, and it hurt, so you decided it was evil. 18:03 < Mercster> meticulously plucked 18:03 <@Dagmar> Candy ass. 18:04 < Mercster> Dagmar: http://quanta.homeip.net/merc.jpg my goatee looks generally like that now...maybe not as plumb-line exact as yours, but its not as if i feel the need to get ladylike with it 18:04 <@Dagmar> ...and more homophobie remarks. 18:05 <@Dagmar> Yeah, you'll go far in life. 18:05 < Mercster> you're full of righteous indignation, arent ya ;-) 18:05 <@Dagmar> [1;30m[[1;37m1[1;30m][0m ùíù Ignoring ALL messages from mercster!*@*[0m 18:05 <@Dagmar> Not even worth the screen estate 18:05 < Mercster> haha :) 18:06 < Mercster> must be tough bein' sensitive 18:06 < Mercster> so much angst, so little point 18:06 < Mercster> jim lehrer, take me away 18:09 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["*sneeze*"] 18:09 < Mercster> what is it with greece and angry teenagers 18:10 < Mercster> that place is nuts 18:12 < Mercster> that place is like 24x7 burning man 18:14 < Mercster> except instead of an effigy, they burn buildings and cars 18:16 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:16 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 18:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 18:24 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 18:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 18:52 <@tzanger> Mercster: haha 18:53 < Mercster> srsly 19:00 <@aestetix> sweet it worked 19:04 < Mercster> ubuntu? 19:05 <@aestetix> eee ubuntu 19:05 < Mercster> nod 19:05 < Mercster> no NOVA/Frontline tonight :( 19:06 < Mercster> but, 2 hours of UFC 19:06 < Mercster> w00t 19:07 < Mercster> in the absence of thoughtful, considered programming, turn to dudes bloodying each other 19:16 <@Dagmar> Okay, so now that I'm nearing the middle of Season 3 of Lost I'm starting to realize that quite possibly one *can* put together a decent show with no actual master plotline whatsoever 19:19 < Mercster> k 19:32 <@Dagmar> Wow the Illinois governor is *so* in deep shit 19:47 <@Drag0n> ya think? 19:52 < Mercster> the amazing kreskin 19:52 -!- Falun|home [i=HydraIRC@c-76-17-127-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:00 <@scort> foreskin? 20:06 <@Dagmar> aftskin. 20:07 <@Drag0n> port and starbord skin? 20:08 <@Dagmar> Let's hope so. 20:15 <@Dagmar> http://www.cracked.com/blog/if-you-want-to-make-an-omelette-youve-got-to-let-some-kids-get-molested/ 20:16 <@juice> Dagmar, 12.2 is out :) 20:16 <@Dagmar> joy 20:16 <@juice> lol 20:16 <@Dagmar> Find anything out about your car? 20:16 <@juice> nope 20:16 <@juice> i figure I am sol 20:16 <@Dagmar> Damn 20:16 <@juice> i am hoping to get a car from a relative once it gets a fuel pump replaced 20:17 <@juice> so until that happens I been having to bum rides 20:17 <@juice> which sucks 20:17 <@juice> working nights going to see if I can grab a little nap before work 20:19 <@Dagmar> Ah finally found http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/slackware-12.2-install-dvd.iso 20:19 <@Dagmar> In theory I'm allowed to download thiungs with BT at work, but... 20:19 <@Dagmar> Fuckit 20:19 <@Dagmar> Too much potential hassle 20:20 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]"] 20:20 <@juice> I am d/l them from that site 20:20 <@juice> it goes slow here 320KB sec 20:21 <@juice> however all 3 at the same time doesn't drop my speed 20:21 <@Dagmar> 1.2MB/sec here 20:21 <@juice> if I was at work I could get them pretty quick from there 20:21 <@Dagmar> I was hoping the GATech mirror would have populated already 20:21 <@juice> yeah I dunno why it's going so slow 20:21 <@Dagmar> I2 would be very nice 20:22 <@Catonic_lp> gunf 20:22 <@Catonic_lp> Dagmar: you no haz I2? 20:22 <@Dagmar> I has I2. 20:22 <@Dagmar> I has I2 backbone. 20:23 <@Dagmar> I no haz working mirrors 20:23 <@Catonic_lp> Ok. 20:23 <@juice> the faster ones haven't populated or don't anymore 20:24 <@juice> I should put the isos up on my site 20:24 <@juice> see how fast I can waste 3000GB 20:24 <@Dagmar> I'm going to probably hassle the guys who do a mirror site here to add the ISOs to it 20:25 <@Catonic_lp> I'm only seeing about 4.5MB/s right now. 20:25 < Mercster> people still run slackware? 20:25 <@juice> yeah 20:25 <@juice> however I have been playing with mint,sabayon, and fedora 10 20:26 <@juice> in vbox 20:26 <@Dagmar> I just need something to refresh my interest 20:26 < Mercster> juice: i ran slackware 1-3 iirc...how is FC10 looking? 20:26 <@Dagmar> It's time I fixed some of Slackware for good. 20:26 <@juice> I been in a I don't wanna mess with it mood 20:26 <@juice> I just want the crap to work 20:26 <@juice> namely gnome stuff 20:27 < Mercster> yeah 20:27 <@juice> so I was looking for another distro to use for gnome 20:27 <@Dagmar> I've been in an "I'm tired of dealing with lazy, loud-mouthed, sometimes French, end users." 20:27 <@Dagmar> mood 20:27 <@juice> fc10 is umm i dunno alright 20:27 <@Dagmar> juice: Ubuntu 20:27 <@Dagmar> It works a treat 20:27 <@juice> I already d/l updates and got some nautilus crashes 20:27 <@juice> and other things 20:27 < Mercster> lame 20:28 <@juice> but I just installed the live cd 20:28 < Mercster> hm 20:28 <@juice> so it isn't a full out version 20:28 <@Catonic_lp> my coworker was trying to convince my other coworker to wipe his laptop and install ubuntu 20:28 <@juice> i then ran the updater and got the crashes 20:28 <@juice> I don't like ubuntu 20:28 < Mercster> i wiped FC9 for vista just a couple weeks ago (dicking with some games), im curious as to how FC10 is but dont feel like switching back yet 20:28 <@juice> however, mint caught my curiosity 20:28 <@juice> it is based off ubuntu 20:28 < Mercster> and not bored enough to run it in a VM 20:29 <@Dagmar> Weird. 20:29 <@Dagmar> I've had no such crashes out of Ubuntu 20:29 < Mercster> so much of a distro is hardware support anyway 20:29 <@juice> it isn't stability 20:29 <@juice> it is I can't find anything 20:29 <@Catonic_lp> Dagmar: how far in is the d/l? 20:29 <@juice> all the stuff is so different that sys-v 20:29 <@Dagmar> 635MB 20:29 <@Dagmar> juice: Dude, we're *all* sys 20:29 <@Dagmar> v 20:29 < Mercster> juice: fwiw most distros are moving to that new init replacement 20:29 <@Catonic_lp> uh... I just passed 51% 20:30 <@juice> err I mean the bsd style system slack uses 20:30 <@juice> and they don' put config files where most distro do 20:30 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but you should have little trouble figuring out what they're doing 20:30 <@juice> yeah i have to google the crap 20:31 <@juice> everytime someone at work needs help 20:31 <@juice> with some crap 20:32 < Mercster> juice: i dont think there's really a reason to consider slackware if you're already reasonably familiar with some other family of distros with a standard package manager (rpm, apt etc). seems most people who run slackware have been running it for time immemorial and are averse to change. or, they heard slackware is "hardcore" and want to impress themselves 20:32 <@juice> mint caught my eye since it can also use ubuntu and deb packages 20:32 < Mercster> im surprised slackware hasnt at least moved to sysVinit 20:32 <@juice> Mercster, ran slackware for like 6 years now 20:32 < Mercster> thats kinda...sad 20:32 < Mercster> juice: nod 20:33 <@juice> but I started out on redhat 20:33 <@juice> I like slackware because it is fast 20:33 < Mercster> slackware was my first distro about 15 years ago, but after a few years i switched to redhat 20:33 <@juice> not as bloated per say 20:33 <@juice> fc10 and the other I try seem to load so much slower 20:33 < Mercster> tried a few others 20:33 <@Dagmar> "per se" actually. 20:33 <@juice> basic operation is similiar in speed 20:34 < Mercster> juice: hmm, dunno 20:34 <@juice> and then lots of distros are going to the live cd 20:34 <@juice> which is mking them less bloated 20:34 <@juice> so that is kind of nice 20:34 <@juice> but then you have to manually grab all the crap 20:34 <@juice> you should mess with mint 20:35 < Mercster> juice: it may be that fedora is covering a lot of bases in it's startup that you dont actually need...weeding out the jobs my machine doesnt need in init is usually the first thing i do after install 20:35 < Mercster> juice: ipV6 crap, bluetooth, this crap, that crap 20:35 < Mercster> portmapper 20:35 <@juice> yeah i am sure I just wanted to do some base installs and see what distro caught my eye 20:35 < Mercster> the nfs stuff 20:35 < Mercster> nod 20:35 <@juice> then install it to a machine and use it 20:35 <@juice> since vbox is going to hinder peformance 20:35 <@sdodson> FEDORA IS THE ONE TRUE OS! YOU ALL WILL DIE IF YOU"RE NOT USING IT 20:36 < Mercster> sdodson: TRUE 20:36 < Mercster> sdodson: how are you this evening 20:36 <@sdodson> Mercster: pretty drunk 20:36 < Mercster> sdodson: well played 20:36 < Mercster> i'm...inebriated 20:36 <@juice> sabayon seems decent 20:37 <@juice> but I couldn't grab the dvd 20:37 <@juice> so I didn't get what I wanted 20:37 <@juice> well a new release was coming out soon 20:37 <@juice> so I thought I would wait 20:37 <@juice> so I just tried the live cd 20:37 < Mercster> i mainly installed vista so i could play LOTRO, but i never play because MMORPGs crush my soul 20:37 < Mercster> as much as i like the idea of them 20:37 <@juice> yeah 20:37 <@juice> I never use windows 20:37 <@juice> and I installed xp sdp3 20:37 <@juice> sp3 20:37 < Mercster> so i dunno, maybe i should check out FC10 20:38 <@juice> here on this machine last week 20:38 <@juice> so i could play flash videos 20:38 < Mercster> windows is OK 20:38 <@juice> in full screen 20:38 <@juice> and not having all the glitching bs 20:38 < Mercster> juice: ? flash 9 in linux last i checked, wasnt bad... 20:38 <@juice> since adobe is screwing linux flash 20:38 < Mercster> course all the video i look at is really youtube 20:38 <@juice> I run flash 10 20:38 <@juice> yeah even youtube 20:38 <@juice> full screen them 20:38 < Mercster> dunno 20:38 <@juice> they look so bad 20:39 <@juice> i've tried it on multi machines and same result 20:39 < Mercster> do they stay at low resolution or lose frames or what? 20:39 < Mercster> i usually dont fullscreen youtube 20:39 <@juice> unless I just need a real video card 20:39 <@juice> they pause and stop 20:39 < Mercster> hm 20:39 <@juice> laggy per say 20:40 < Mercster> yeah 20:40 < Mercster> ff3? 20:40 <@juice> yeah 20:40 <@juice> or ff2 20:40 <@juice> you can do like double size 20:40 <@juice> or a little bigger 20:40 <@juice> and they play fine 20:40 < Mercster> not sure. i guess you could try looking for a flash beta plugin for linux, which adobe sometimes releases 20:40 < Mercster> juice: how do you resize a youtube video to double? 20:41 < Mercster> i thot it was just default, or fullscreen 20:41 <@juice> yeah sorry 20:41 <@juice> hullu 20:41 < Mercster> ahh 20:41 <@juice> err hulu 20:41 <@juice> like standard def in fs screen is kind manageable 20:41 < Mercster> yeah i was actually on hulu for the first time yesterday, since it had some SNL clips i wanted to see 20:41 <@juice> but to 480p full and it just freezes up a lot 20:42 <@juice> but you do the pop out feature 20:42 < Mercster> gotcha 20:42 <@juice> and then full size that 20:42 < Mercster> pop out and manually size 20:42 <@juice> it plays fine 20:42 <@juice> yeah 20:42 <@juice> i got into watching house and bones 20:42 < Mercster> heh 20:42 <@juice> to kill time at work 20:42 < Mercster> juice: ohhh you need usenet ;-) 20:43 <@juice> and then I wanted to watch some here since I have no cable 20:43 < Mercster> yea 20:43 <@juice> well i was going to sleep but I guess I won't 20:43 <@juice> roommates dog kept waking me up today barking 20:43 <@juice> I was ready to kill it 20:44 < Mercster> dont go all son of sam on us 20:44 <@juice> i slept from 9am-4pm and got awaken like 5 times 20:44 < Mercster> i guess ill grab fc10 for shits and giggles 20:44 <@juice> from the houling barking 20:44 < Mercster> doubt ill install it soon 20:45 <@juice> http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?act=Print&client=choose&f=23&t=70881 20:46 <@juice> yeah there are several post about the flash fullscreen issue 20:46 <@juice> if you google 20:46 <@juice> about the poor performance 20:47 < Mercster> no clues given, eh 20:48 < Mercster> i wonder if installing x64_64 is still stupid 20:48 <@juice> time to burn cd's 20:49 <@juice> I was also thinking into get a new video card to use with this pc so I can play games 20:49 <@juice> is why I installed xp 20:49 <@juice> but since my car got stolen 20:50 <@juice> everything involving money is going to get delayed 20:50 < Mercster> about a year ago i got a 8600GTS w/ 512M ram...not top of the line but plenty fast for most things 20:50 <@juice> i was thinking of that card 20:50 < Mercster> yeah 20:50 < Mercster> cheap now, too 20:50 <@juice> since there like 50 bucks 20:50 < Mercster> nod 20:50 < Mercster> i paid like $140 20:50 < Mercster> juice: the XFX is great 20:50 <@juice> or I was looking at some of the 9xxx series 20:50 <@juice> i was sure what bran to buy 20:51 <@juice> coworkeer said evgha is nice 20:51 <@juice> for there return/warranty policy 20:51 <@juice> err 20:51 <@juice> evga 20:51 < Mercster> yea, ppl have different allegiences. honestly ive seen shit cards and good cards from most places, seems to be the exact model 20:51 < Mercster> like, i had a 8500 XFX and it was pure crap right out of the box, overheating, etc 20:51 < Mercster> sink was coming apart from the board 20:52 <@juice> I've never owned a nice video card 20:52 < Mercster> but then i got the 8600GTS and it was immaculate 20:52 <@juice> so I have no idea who is good and not 20:52 < Mercster> juice: i hadnt either till this one...i tried a few but returned thenm, ended up with this 20:52 <@juice> i liked my gigabyte mobo 20:52 <@juice> and I know they have video cards 20:52 < Mercster> nod 20:52 <@juice> but not sure if they would be good r crap 20:52 * Mercster finds fc10 torrent 20:52 <@juice> they manke good mobos I think 20:53 <@juice> amke 20:53 < Mercster> juice: i actually had to get a few and return them 20:53 <@juice> ack 20:53 <@juice> ic 20:53 < Mercster> hard to tell till they're in your machine 20:54 < Mercster> my two cents, 8600GTS-512M is a good card, it has the higher bus speeds of the 8800's (the XFX anyway)...but, ppl are buying 8800s or better these days 20:54 <@juice> yeah 20:54 <@juice> the best card I have ever used was like a 16mb 20:54 <@juice> lol 20:55 < Mercster> hehe 20:55 <@juice> other than that I use onboard 20:55 < Mercster> juice: it's nice to finally see some fast 3D 20:55 <@juice> i mean I never played games 20:55 <@juice> so I was like this 4mb card works for me 20:55 < Mercster> yeah 20:55 <@juice> it keeps webpages from lagging on scrolling 20:55 <@juice> on my old system I built 20:56 <@Catonic_lp> Dagmar: I've got the file, but I can't figure out how to get a webserver to serve it out 20:56 <@Catonic_lp> apparently files over 2GB are problems. 20:56 <@juice> hmm 20:58 <@Dagmar> Fat32 filesystem? 20:58 <@Dagmar> ...or maybe your Apache was built without large file support (which would be odd) 20:59 <@Catonic_lp> apache 2.2 does 2GB 20:59 <@Dagmar> No idea, man. 20:59 <@Dagmar> i just know it's worked here without a problem in the past 21:00 <@juice> well I am alomst done burning the 3rd cd 21:00 <@Catonic_lp> nginx didn't even want to compile 21:00 <@juice> so I am going to install 12.2 21:00 <@Catonic_lp> thttpd blew out with a file error 21:00 <@Dagmar> *sigh* my download broke. Gotta start it over 21:01 <@Catonic_lp> if you gotta... 21:01 <@juice> bbl 21:01 <@juice> off to install 21:01 -!- juice [i=juice@67.48.19.5] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:06 < Mercster> Alternatively, NetBSD's pkgsrc provides support for Slackware, among other UNIX-like operating systems. pkgsrc provides dependency resolution for both binary and source packages. 21:06 < Mercster> hah 21:06 < Mercster> that's, well, cool, i guess 21:06 < Mercster> i bet the slackware nerds loved it when that happened 21:06 < Mercster> "now we're even MORE like a bsd!" 21:08 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@c-68-48-1-160.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 21:09 < Mercster> http://www.pkgsrccon.org/2008/ 21:09 < Mercster> now that's a party 21:17 < Mercster> oh HELL yea 21:17 < Mercster> this next guy on UFC has a fro 21:17 < Mercster> you hardly ever see that anymore 21:28 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:32 -!- juice [i=1000@65.28.102.60] has joined #se2600 21:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o juice] by ChanServ 21:33 <@juice> 12.2 is installed :) 21:39 < Mercster> juice: do you feel the powar 21:39 <@juice> yes 21:39 <@juice> it seems nice 21:39 < Mercster> juice: oh i found the perfect event for you 21:39 < Mercster> juice: http://www.pkgsrccon.org/2008/ 21:39 < Mercster> juice: get ready to party hard 21:40 <@juice> heh 21:40 <@juice> maybe I could talk work to sending me to germany for training 21:40 <@juice> and hit it up 21:40 <@juice> lol 21:41 < Mercster> yeah 21:41 <@sdodson> don't hate 21:41 < Mercster> mack on the fly pkgsrc bitchez 21:41 < Mercster> dont hate...playa participate 21:44 <@Dagmar> I have an idea. 21:44 <@Dagmar> If lawmakers are so hot to have everyone be put under surveillance with no oversight, they should be the first ones to be put under surveillance. 21:45 <@Dagmar> What could be more important than making certain our politicians are actually not saboteurs and domestic terrorists? 21:46 <@dasunt> I'm a hacker. 21:46 <@dasunt> Just in my approach to the world. 21:46 < Mercster> i wish he didnt have me on ignore so i could tell him what a sociopolitical mastermind he is 21:46 < Mercster> dasunt: you're a hacker. you hack. 21:46 <@dasunt> Someone was bitching about hiring a plumber to do something, and my reply was "why don't you just look at it, figure out what needs to be done, and learn how to do it?" 21:47 < Mercster> dasunt: maybe he doesnt want to be covered in shit 21:48 < Mercster> dasunt: besides plumbers have quite a bit of equipment and know-how...not saying you couldnt do it yourself, but it's not like mowing the lawn or something 21:48 <@dasunt> It's not that "I don't want to do it", it's "plumbing is a black box I'll never figure it out" 21:48 <@Dagmar> Depends on what part of plumbing they're talking about 21:49 < Mercster> dunno...not all people are "hackers" in that sense :) 21:49 <@Dagmar> If it's a toilet, it's easy and they're a lazy bitch. 21:49 <@dasunt> Toilets are easy. 21:49 < Mercster> some people direct their energies to figuring out certain things 21:49 <@dasunt> few bolts, a wax ring, that's it. 21:49 <@Dagmar> If we're talking about running pipes through walls and stuff, well, maybe not just everyone is cut out to work a welding torch. 21:49 <@dasunt> Oh, and some pipe dope. 21:49 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Isn't it a soldering torch, not a welding torch? 21:50 <@dasunt> I thought the temp was pretty low. 21:50 <@Dagmar> This is why I stick with toilets and PVC piping. 21:50 <@dasunt> The old galvanized threaded pipe is pretty easy to work with as well. 21:50 <@dasunt> You can always convert it over to PVC, if you are smart enough to realize that you have to bridge the lack of conductivity in some setups. 21:53 <@juice> later all 21:58 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 21:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 22:03 < Mercster> nice juice 22:04 <@dasunt> Ah. 22:04 < Mercster> er, nite juice 22:04 <@dasunt> The vegetarians are fighting. 22:05 < Mercster> dasunt: throw meat at them 22:05 <@Dagmar> Well, we know it's not over who gets the last steak. 22:11 < Mercster> dasunt: ever seen PCU? 22:15 <@dasunt> PC-what? 22:15 < Mercster> movie 22:16 < Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCU_(film) 22:16 < Mercster> it's a classic 22:18 < Mercster> blow me where the pampers is 22:18 <@sdodson> my trashbin? 22:19 <@Evilpig> any tcp app port >10000 is most likely up to no good yes or no? 22:20 <@Dagmar> Nope. 22:20 <@Dagmar> It's just user-level socket binds. 22:20 <@Dagmar> Perfectly normal. 22:20 <@Evilpig> I am seeing alot of it. trying to decipher it 22:20 < Mercster> hah 22:20 < Mercster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBxPlwF7bg 22:20 <@Evilpig> assuming bittorrent or something like that 22:20 <@Dagmar> Now if the destination port is >10,000 then we're tlaking about something "interesting" 22:21 <@Evilpig> conversation 17418 > 10057 22:21 <@Evilpig> and then vice versa 22:21 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Could be an IRC DCC senssion or IM communications. 22:21 <@Dagmar> Dump the contents, see if it's text. 22:22 <@Evilpig> it isn't 22:22 <@Evilpig> .4;.@.r. W.A)..H. <-- sample 22:23 <@Evilpig> I wish I had captured my internal interface instead of my external so I could get a better picture of this 22:26 <@scort> ssh? 22:27 <@Evilpig> shouldn't be 22:27 <@Evilpig> there aren't any ssh servers on that side of my wan segment where I see the traffic going 22:28 <@Evilpig> I am really thinking torrent or something similar 22:30 <@Dagmar> Prolly so 22:38 <@remoford> traffic analysis might tell you something 22:38 <@remoford> steady at 80k, bursty avg 300bps n such 22:39 <@remoford> time between bursts, computer comms or humanish delays 22:39 <@scort> trojan! 22:40 <@remoford> call and response sort of behavior can tell you if its a client server type thing 22:40 <@remoford> rddtool ftw 22:44 <@Evilpig> on of a whore 22:44 <@Evilpig> it is bit torrent 22:46 <@remoford> be like comcast 22:46 <@remoford> throw em a rst packet 22:56 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:57 <@Dagmar> Hell, start spamming their connection with RSTs for any connection that's open longer than 10 minutes. 22:57 <@Dagmar> THEN you'll be like Comcast. 22:58 <@Dagmar> pSubway 23:02 -!- Falun|home [i=HydraIRC@c-76-17-127-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:03 -!- Mercster [n=merc@c-76-114-87-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:07 <@Evilpig> what is protocol t.125 ? 23:09 <@Catonic_lp> Dagmar: is Mirage around? 23:09 <@Dagmar> Nope. 23:10 <@Catonic_lp> sigh 23:25 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@c-68-48-1-160.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:27 -!- jb7od [n=itsME@adsl-065-080-187-241.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 23:59 -!- jb7od [n=itsME@adsl-065-080-187-241.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 23:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jb7od] by ChanServ --- Log closed Thu Dec 11 00:00:31 2008