--- Log opened Thu Dec 04 00:00:02 2008
00:00 <@sdodson> me either
00:00 <@dasunt> sdodson: Really, it isn't.
00:01 <@dasunt> For the calories, consider a gas station "pie".
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00:01 <@dasunt> $1.50 or so for ~700 calories.
00:01 <@dasunt> Potatoes or rice will beat that.
00:01 < Mercster> well, gas stations are usually outrageously expensive
00:01 < Mercster> i thot you meant general fast food
00:01 <@dasunt> Even then.
00:01 <@sdodson> And comparing it to general nutritious food.
00:01 <@dasunt> Your still paying a buck or so for <1000 calories.
00:02 <@sdodson> Not rice based calories.
00:02 <@sdodson> Bah, the pedant in me wants to correct you for saying calories but then I just screwed it up too.
00:02 <@dasunt> kcal.
00:02 <@dasunt> For the anal.
00:03 <@dasunt> I'd argue that rice isn't the best source of nutrition, but compared to fast food, per $, it isn't as bad/
00:03 < Mercster> i like mixing flavored rice with cheese and tuna
00:03 < Mercster> one of my old standbys
00:04 < CRasH180> add some broccoli and you have yourself a casserole
00:04 <@sdodson> My dad bought one of those bow flex things, it tells you how many calories you've burned in kcal. He really thought he'd just worked through like a few weeks worth of Calories.
00:04 <@sdodson> Mercster: flavored how?
00:04 <@sdodson> Like Safron, etc?
00:04 < Mercster> sdodson: knorr packets
00:05 < Mercster> its rice mixed with seasonings
00:05 < Mercster> you can gets lots of flavors
00:05 < Mercster> i like the "herb and butter" for my cheesey tuna rice
00:05 <@sdodson> ah ya, the instant shit
00:05 < Mercster> yeah
00:05 <@sdodson> you're not the one going all gestapo on sodium are you?
00:05 < Mercster> nah
00:05 < Mercster> gotta die of something
00:06 < Mercster> if flavored rice does it, well then
00:06 <@sdodson> I did well at work today aside from lunch.
00:06 <@sdodson> No snacks.
00:06 < Mercster> yeah i dont snack at all really, nor do i like sweets, so im lucky there
00:07 < Mercster> my downfalls are red meat, gravy, lots of potatoes etc
00:07 < Mercster> too much salt, probably
00:07 < Mercster> tonight for dinner i had chili cheese tots
00:07 < Mercster> mmmm
00:19 <@sdodson> WTF I got charged for installation of three cable outlets. The guy could have completed his entire job without ever setting foot inside. All he had to do is hook up the wire coming out of the ground to the wire coming out of the house.
00:20 < Mercster> self install is the default with comcast around here
00:20 < Mercster> oh, well, with the exception of outside work, like that
00:20 < Mercster> i should learn TO READ
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00:44 <@dasunt> I know its pansy ass for me to bitch about it, and I'm okay with being a person people can vent to, but damn, some days, I don't want the knowledge of what people can do to each other.
00:46 < Mercster> ?
00:46 <@Catonic> dasunt: race you to the bottom of the bottle.
00:47 <@dasunt> I ran out of mixer.
00:48 <@dasunt> I'm working off gin + tomato juice now.
00:49 <@Catonic> I'm seriously thinking about drinking some absinthe
00:49 <@aestetix> absinthe ftw
00:50 <@aestetix> dasunt: I was with a hooker yesterday. I made her fuck a gerbil, then shove it in her ass, run out into the middle of 7th avenue manhattan naked, and shit out the gerbil in front of Madison Square Garden
00:50 <@aestetix> while I got off
00:50 <@dasunt> aestetix: Sadly, that's nothing.
00:54 <@Catonic> absinthe == nasty
00:54 <@aestetix> Catonic: if it's nasty, you're doing it wrong.
00:55  * Catonic is filled with several layers of self-loathing
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00:56 <@dasunt> Absinthe?
00:57 <@dasunt> Fuck, I'd take that tonight.
00:59 < Mercster> you put your weed in it
00:59 <@Catonic> 110 proof...
00:59 <@Catonic> and it says "pour 2 oz in the glass"...
01:00 <@Catonic> two shots at 110 proof? No wonder it'll fuck you up.
01:00 <@dasunt> I have no weed.
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01:00 <@dasunt> 110 proof, two shots?
01:00 <@dasunt> Lightweight.
01:00 <@Catonic> dasunt: nigga plz. I out drink all the indians on campus.
01:00 <@Catonic> Then again, I've had more practice.
01:02 <@dasunt> Native Americans?
01:02 <@dasunt> That's a tad impressive.
01:02 <@dasunt> Asian Indians?
01:02 <@dasunt> Not as much.
01:02 < Mercster> please, 'injuns'
01:02 < Mercster> dasunt: heh
01:02 <@dasunt> I use "injun" occasionally.
01:02 <@dasunt> I'm part injun.
01:03 <@dasunt> The closest I ever thought I was going to come to dying was out on the reservation.
01:04 <@dasunt> It involved a handgun.
01:04 < Mercster> did some guy try to shank you for your sterno
01:04 < Mercster> yeah
01:04 <@dasunt> No.
01:04 <@dasunt> It involved a handgun.
01:04 <@dasunt> And 3 am.
01:05 <@dasunt> Ah, fun times.
01:06 <@Catonic> hancock is a funny movie
01:06 <@Catonic> it's like if superman was a drunken asshole
01:06 <@Catonic> red dots
01:09 <@Catonic> and there it is... cue the depression.
01:10 < Mercster> what's got you down, anything in particular? or do you just have a imbalance
01:12 <@aestetix> virginity
01:13 < Mercster> it's a problem...
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01:16 <@dasunt> It's a solution.
01:16 <@aestetix> it's a solution looking for a problem to relieve
01:20 <@Catonic> maybe I don't have a choice, maybe it's all just a cry for help?
01:21 < Mercster> just bone a chick
01:21 <@dasunt> Works for me.
01:21 <@Catonic> just. bone. a. chick.
01:22 <@Catonic> maybe if she's hot
01:22 < Mercster> haha
01:24 <@aestetix> Shadow404's mom is hot
01:28 < Mercster> sweet
01:31 <@dasunt> nude pics pls.
01:57 <@timoguin> or just regularly ones.
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02:04 <@Catonic> im out
02:04 <@Catonic> later
02:14 < Mercster> ballz
02:44 < Mercster> dont you EVER say that about britney
02:44 < Mercster> EVER
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05:10 <@aestetix> Wow.
05:11 <@aestetix> Apparently the guy who wrote the original pledge of allegience died this year on thanksgivign.
05:12 < TheLightCosine> I find the pledge of allegiance to be a rather offensive practice
05:13 < TheLightCosine> it always seemed to me that it was contradictory to the founding principles of this country
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07:32 <@sdodson> aestetix: wow, isn't it ironic, doncha think
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08:26 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0 h0 h0ez!
08:27 <@Dolemite> Gawd, Precipitation + Nashville Drivers == Ultimate Suckage
08:27 <@Dolemite> 30 minute commute turned into 95 minutes today.
08:29 < TheLightCosine> heh
08:29 < TheLightCosine> love rainy days here
08:30  * TheLightCosine goes back to cursing windows back to whatever layer of hell it was spawned from
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08:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> mornin y'all
08:34 < TheLightCosine> mornin
08:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> *shwoo* I was about to pick up the phone to see if I could hear any line noise since usually someone pipes up quickly
08:36 < TheLightCosine> sorry, i'm busy trying to figure out if ithere's a reason i can't get this stupid script to clear temproary internet files correctly
08:37 < TheLightCosine> i think it might be something blocking the WSH specifically from doing it, so i'm trying it as an actual vb app to make sure
08:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'd help out, but I doubt that that vb app would compile on linux
08:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm almost sure there is a system call that does it for you
08:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> but it's been a long time since I did any windows development so... I wouldn't be the best source
08:41 < TheLightCosine> surprisingly no
08:44 <@m0j0-j0j0> maybe if you instantiate a browser ocx you would be able to call a method to do it?
08:46 < TheLightCosine> probably
08:46 < TheLightCosine> but it should be simpler to manually delete the files
08:47 < TheLightCosine> recursively walking down the trees and cleaning up after itself
08:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> in theory it would be simpler..but how is that working out?
08:49 < TheLightCosine> well as a vbscript terrible
08:50 < TheLightCosine> i'll let you know how it works out in .net
08:50 < TheLightCosine> i think the AV was preventing the windows script host form executing file delete commands
08:52 <@Shadow404> my cubicle in the xmas spirit: http://www.shadow404.com/143.sizes@IMAGE_047.jpg?size1=L
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08:55 < TheLightCosine> nice
08:56 <@aestetix> Wow.
08:56 <@aestetix> This is *not* the season to be an employee at a large corporation in the US
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08:57 < TheLightCosine> hooray for being an employee in a large International Corporation headquartered in london!
08:57 <@Shadow404> define large?
09:00 <@aestetix> AT&T
09:00 <@aestetix> They just laid of 12,000 people
09:00 <@Shadow404> yeah, were not that big
09:00 <@aestetix> Imagine getting laid off right before xmas
09:00 <@aestetix> Ok look my company has 15 employees.
09:01 <@aestetix> ATT seems fucking huge to me :p
09:01 <@Dolemite> 12,000 = 4% of their workforce
09:01 <@Dolemite> that's definitely *large*
09:01 <@Shadow404> heh, but they have lay off packages i hope
09:01 <@Dolemite> TheLightCosine : Sorry to break it to you, but the UK is also in a recession at the moment
09:02 <@Shadow404> yeah, but perfect time to buy u.k. gooes
09:02 <@brimstone> france is about the only country not in an recession aren't they?
09:02 <@Shadow404> *goods
09:02 <@Shadow404> weeee
09:02 <@Dolemite> France is only in a recession when they can no longer eat cheese, drink wine and have lots of sex.  Viva la France!
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09:05 < TheLightCosine> Dolemite: They may be in a recession but Willis is doing quite well =)
09:06 < TheLightCosine> of coruse they just spent a huge ammount of money on buying out another company
09:06 < TheLightCosine> so nobody expects to get raises this year
09:06 <@I-MOD> we're not getting bonuses this year...or so we were told...
09:07 <@I-MOD> iirc
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09:14 <@Shadow404> what regional area did these layoffs occur?
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09:45  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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10:25 <@Evilpig> anyone ever seen a windows server lose the dns server service?
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10:26 <@Shadow404> can u restart it?
10:27 <@Evilpig> no.  it isn't there to restart
10:27 <@Shadow404> possibly a memory allocation issue
10:27 <@Shadow404> wtf
10:27 <@Evilpig> poof
10:27 <@Shadow404> hax
10:27 <@Evilpig> and it's a DC
10:27 <@Shadow404> and u are sure it had it before?
10:27 <@Evilpig> it's a DC!
10:27 <@Shadow404> datacenter?
10:27 <@Evilpig> the only domain controller to be more precise
10:28 <@Shadow404> oh, heh
10:28 <@Shadow404> wow
10:28 <@Evilpig> went under add/remove windows components and it is listed as being installed so I can't reinstall it.  since it says that the domain requires it.  which is duh
10:29 <@Shadow404> this is a duh question, but did u restart?
10:29 <@Shadow404> for shits and giggles?
10:30 <@Drag0n> what do you mean, its not there anymore? is there a service running, a process, is it responding to remote DNS queries? is there a system log for it?
10:30 <@Evilpig> the server?  yes it has been restarted
10:30 <@Evilpig> isn't responding to queries.  and when you look at services it isn't there to start as a service
10:30 <@Evilpig> net start "DNS Server"  should start it or return an error if it is there to start
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10:46 < TheLightCosine> wow that's crazy
10:49 <@sdodson> TheLightCosine: what?
10:52 < TheLightCosine> about the dns server
10:53 <@sdodson> dinosaurs will die!
10:54 <@sdodson> Drag0n's nick is far too close to dagmar and everytime I see him say something i want to say something evil.
10:55 <@Drag0n> why does that stop you, its never bothered you before
11:02 <@aestetix> ok
11:02 <@aestetix> how is di.fm classifying Q-Burns Abstract Message under Funky House
11:07 <@sdodson> Drag0n: I have a marginal level of respect for you.
11:07 <@sdodson> So timewarner credited me for the "3 Outlet Install" because I transfered service but she assured me that it was new service they would have charged me for that. WTF?
11:08 <@sdodson> "We'd still charge you to activate those outlets" activate = connect the wire coming out of my house to the wire coming out of the ground. hate hate hate
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12:31 <@polerin> bleeeh
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12:45 <@m0j0-j0j0> exactly
12:45 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: dcc me some mashups
12:45 <@polerin> I'll link you some, but I don't have any downloaded :P
12:46 <@m0j0-j0j0> k
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12:59 <@polerin> http://www.djlobsterdust.com/
12:59 <@polerin> good start
12:59 <@polerin> and there's a blogroll there that will lead you to other people
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13:40 <@sdodson> brimstone: http://oss.netfarm.it/guides/ris-linux.php did you tell me about this tool?
13:42 < nated0g_wrk> afternoon everyone. just now slowing down enough to get on irc
13:42 <@sdodson> slowing down from what?
13:46 <@Shadow404> real work, u wouldnt understand sdodson
13:47 <@Shadow404> sdodson: and no, whoring yourself out to the world does not count as real work
13:58 < nated0g_wrk> from 8-11 i handle overnight tickets while my coworker plays WOW on his company supplied laptop
13:58 <@scoil> sdodson, help
13:59 < nated0g_wrk> then from 12-1 i take calls while he is out to lunch
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13:59 < nated0g_wrk> 1-2 my lunch
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13:59 < nated0g_wrk> 2-5 get stuff ready for next day and handle inbound calls
14:00 < nated0g_wrk> and since class is cancelled tonight im going to play wow some tonight
14:00 < nated0g_wrk> my coworker said that he can do 15 levels a day...im like how many hours is that
14:00 < nated0g_wrk> i told him i only play about a hour a night if i play at night
14:03 <@brimstone> sdodson: probably, i've used it before
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14:05 <@Dagmar> nated0g: By the vague standards he gave, I can do 15 levels in about three hours without even trying.
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14:09 <@critch> hmm, I have a file I can list using ls, and file will tell me it is a executable, but trying to run it tells me no such file, and so does ldd.
14:11 < nated0g_wrk> i just started playing so i dont know what im doing. im doing a level a day
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14:14 <@brimstone> critch: missing a library?
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14:15 <@critch> brimstone: that is kind of why I thought to use ldd. ldd should have still been able to run and tell me what libraries it had or didn't.
14:16 <@brimstone> unless ldd is missing libraries
14:16 <@brimstone> i've seen that happen before, but it was self inflicted
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14:38 <@critch> brimstone: yeah, partly a library issue, but not a ldd library.
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14:39 <@critch> seems acroread is needing some special environment. Went to add the lib path to ld.so.conf.d/ and then that broke apt.
14:42 <@brimstone> huh
14:43 <@brimstone> critch: added acroread with the debian-multimedia repos?
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14:48 <@critch> brimstone: not sure from where. I fixed my specific problem with the mozilla acroread plugin. Iceweasel was freezing on any pdf url.
14:51 <@Evilpig> part numbers are too close at times.  WS-C3750G-12S-S  <--AC   WS-C3750G-12S-SD <--DC
14:52 < nated0g_wrk> well duh one of them had a D on it
14:52 < nated0g_wrk> it must mean its Different
14:52 <@Evilpig> WS-C3750G-12S <-- that was the part number I was given.  and gave to the ordering guy who got the dc model 
14:53 < nated0g_wrk> what is it for?
14:53 <@Evilpig> 12 port fiber switch
14:53 < nated0g_wrk> order me one!
14:54 <@Evilpig> k.  how will you be paying?  it's 6k btw
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14:58 < nated0g_wrk> ill just get one from work
15:03 <@sdodson> Evilpig: Why's that so expensive?
15:06 <@Evilpig> cisco.  and it isn't necessarily a fiber switch.  it's just a 12 port switch that is all sfp modules
15:07 <@Drag0n> 3750G, thats the layer3 switch isnt it?
15:08 <@Drag0n> it should have 4 sfp ports for fiber or copper modules
15:08 <@Evilpig> 12 sfp ports.  no copper
15:08 <@Drag0n> and 12 normal ports from the model number
15:08 <@Drag0n> sfp ports are modules, you will need those as well
15:08 <@Evilpig> I have teh modules for it.
15:09 <@Evilpig> glc-bx-u-us and glc-bs-d-us
15:09 <@Drag0n> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6577/
15:09 <@Evilpig> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps5023/product_data_sheet0900aecd80371991.html
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15:10 <@Drag0n> the 3750's are nice in they can be stacked un the back side forming one larger switch
15:10 <@Evilpig> yeah.  but we are just using hte one at the electric company to tie together all the wan points
15:11 <@Drag0n> you could have used the 3650 in that case
15:12 <@Evilpig> I think this replaced the 3650.  cause I don't see that on their site anymore
15:12 <@Drag0n> 3560E-12SD
15:13 <@Drag0n> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7078/prod_models_comparison.html
15:14 <@Evilpig> I just priced that...  not like I needed to after it said 10GB links
15:16 <@Evilpig> I have some C3560-24TS that work well.
15:19 <@Drag0n> yeah, i liked em at my last job
15:20 <@Drag0n> hope i deal with more cisco stuff at my next one
15:24 < nated0g_wrk> i need to write down what we have in the office right now
15:35 <@Drag0n> anyone looking for a network and systems engineer in atlanta? cisco, linux and windows spoken here
15:41 <@brimstone> Drag0n: you looking for a job, or have one?
15:42 <@brimstone> i guess, looking for a job, or looking for an employee?
15:42 <@Drag0n> looking, been out of work for almost 3 months
15:43 <@brimstone> i thought you were in texas with rhia and scoil?
15:44 <@Catonic> i need a new job.
15:44 <@Drag0n> i am, but would like to move back to atlanta, and i dont know too many ppl in dallas in here
15:44 <@Catonic> baud
15:44 <@scoil> i've almost got busted in dallas!
15:44 <@scoil> wait nmm,
15:46 <@Shadow404> is comcast blokcing port 80 all the sudden?
15:46 <@Shadow404> *blocking?
15:46 <@brimstone> only for you Shadow404
15:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: not in Nashville
15:47 <@Shadow404> agh, i think my router is fucking up, might need to restart, after i run a few more trial and erros
15:49 <@scoil> ufail
15:49 <@scoil> nooob
15:51 <@Shadow404> gah, its the fucking webserver thats screwed
15:51 <@scoil> pubnub
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15:59 <@aestetix> I am looking through facebook.
15:59 <@aestetix> Why would anyone want to know all this stuff?
15:59 <@aestetix> "John is doing ___ right now." "Kim has changed her status to ___."
15:59 <@aestetix> It seems like a bunch of worthless distractions and a huge waste of time.
15:59 <@brimstone> aestetix: targeted marketing
15:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Clearly, you aren't on Twitter
16:00 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: I have a twitter. I don't use it much.
16:00 <@aestetix> I love how people insist Big Brother is evil, and then get mad when I say I don't have a facebook or myspace.
16:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Status is the natural evolution of social networking
16:01 <@aestetix> A web manifestiation of a finite state machine? ;)
16:01 <@Drag0n> remember, people only want people to know stuff about them on their terms
16:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, it really is about control...
16:02 <@aestetix> Then why do they shit their stuff all over the place?
16:02 <@Drag0n> because THEY put it there
16:02 <@Drag0n> not someone else
16:02 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: You only see what they want you to see
16:02 <@aestetix> Not that I can talk. I'm working on designing a huge social network system for CCC.
16:03 <@Corydon76-dig> There are far more details about a person that they don't disclose than they do disclose
16:03 <@Drag0n> i dont have a myspace, twitter, home page, freindster...etc.. site
16:03 <@Drag0n> any search on the internet for my name returns less than 6 hits, mostly repeats
16:04 <@Drag0n> i get more hits off my e-mail address
16:04 <@aestetix> I am maintaining a facebook specifically because some people are idiots and only post events on facebook
16:05 <@aestetix> The only social networking site I find of any real use is linkedin.
16:05 <@aestetix> And that's because I can get a job someday with it.
16:05 <@aestetix> (in theory)
16:06 <@Drag0n> thats why i have recruiters
16:06 <@aestetix> I still try to keep handle life and professional life strictly separated.
16:06 <@Drag0n> supposedly
16:06 <@brimstone> the difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there isn't
16:07 <@aestetix> On the other hand, I don't litter these pics with worthless pics and videos. Or leave annoying comments. Or accept annoying comments.
16:19 < Mercster> every time i log into facebook, im horrified and overwhelmed by the amount of invitations and friend requests
16:19 < Mercster> so i never log in
16:20 < Mercster> it seems sites like that have become the major timewaster on the internet, but im still attatched to my old-time time wasters, like irc
16:20 < Mercster> i just dont "get it"
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16:28 <@Evilpig> HR has been holding 6% of my check for the last 6 months and she had no idea why even though I kept telling her that was my personal contribution to my roth.  she asked me again today because they are still sitting on it and she is just clueless as to why they are witholding that amount
16:34 <@I-MOD> :/
16:50 <@Dagmar> I'd say tell them to find fucking out
16:50 <@Dagmar> If they're holding onto it, that means it's *not* going into the fund it's supposed to.
16:50 <@Dagmar> ...which means putting it in there all at once can fuck you over.
16:51 <@I-MOD> also, if you're supposed to get a match from your company, you're getting fucked over harder
16:52 <@Dagmar> Yep
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16:55 <@brimstone> Drag0n: what do you think about whitesands?
16:56 < Synx_hm> the missile range?
16:56 <@Drag0n> new mexico? flat, but if it pays, i will consider it
16:56 <@Drag0n> as long as its not a government contract, or a finacial org, im up for it
16:57 < eryc> gmlrs!
17:03 < Cinotac> Drag0n: white sands is all government contracts
17:03 < Cinotac> there are good contractors, and there are BAD contractors
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17:04 <@Drag0n> the problem comes with the background check
17:06 <@Dagmar> Best answer: "I've never actually been convicted of anything."
17:06 <@Drag0n> that doesnt seem to work
17:06 <@Dagmar> No wait, "I've never been successfully convicted."
17:06 <@rhia> it's true, but it doesn't work
17:07 <@Drag0n> in certain fields, it doesnt matter if there was a conviction or not, just the implication of impropriety
17:08 <@Dagmar> In the good ones they'd be supicious if you were never accused of anything.
17:09 <@Drag0n> not in texas
17:10 <@Drag0n> here, if you dont have good enough connections to get it removed, then we dont want ya
17:17 <@scoil> http://www.scoil.info/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=69
17:18 <@Drag0n> who put that wall there?
17:21 <@sdodson> NINJAS!
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17:21 <@sdodson> a neweb?
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17:22 < scoot> noob
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17:23 < eryc> omghax!
17:23 <@scoil> no moar
17:24 < Catonic_lp> Excellent idea.
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17:43 <@brimstone> Drag0n: sorry, yay! random meetings! https://raytheon.rayjobs.com/viewjob.html?optlink-view=view-516752&ERFormID=newjoblist&ERFormCode=any
17:46 <@Drag0n> job can not be found
17:46 <@brimstone> http://www.rayjobs.com/
17:46 <@brimstone>  IDS112783
17:46 <@brimstone> search for it
17:49 <@Drag0n> ouch, Ability to obtain a secret clearance with interim within 30 days, not a chance
17:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> hmm.. I think I wish I had a smoke... but the truth is that even if I did I wouldnt be interested in stepping out to smoke it
17:49 <@brimstone> you can't get a secret clearance?
17:49 <@brimstone> the contact that sent me that link said they could help you get it
17:50 <@Drag0n> no, have you seen the requirements for a secret clearance?
17:50 <@Dagmar> Getting a secret clearance is supposed to be easy.
17:50 <@brimstone> i've not looked at them
17:51 <@Drag0n> A history of not meeting financial obligations.  A pattern of financial irresponsibility (bankruptcy, debt or credit problems, defaulting on a student loan);
17:51 <@Drag0n>  moving violations with fines over $200
17:51 <@brimstone> well, that's all i know of for outstanding jobs
17:51 <@dc0de> yeah, not such an easy thing to get... then.
17:51 <@Dagmar> What about them
17:51 <@Drag0n> those are disqualifications
17:51 <@brimstone> other then nachoguy's perpetual request for an asterisk guy
17:52 <@Drag0n>  Unexplained affluence
17:52 <@dc0de> Drag0n: have you looked at Checkfree.com?
17:52 <@Dagmar> Umm... That's the first I've heard of those being disqualifications
17:52 <@Dagmar> I was told it was up to the petition examiner
17:52 <@Drag0n> http://www.dba-oracle.com/t_secret_security_clearances_costs_time_disqualifying_conditions.htm
17:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> Drag0n: my mom has clearance.. talk about a background check...
17:53 <@Drag0n> the one that gets me is  "arrest and/or conviction of a felony"   or, so even if you are cleared aof all charges, your still disqualified
17:53 <@Dagmar> No, you're not.
17:53 <@Dagmar> Of this I am certain.
17:54 <@m0j0-j0j0> actually, she got hers back in the day.. I can only imagine what it is like these days
17:54 <@Dagmar> If you have a reasonable explanation of how that came to be, and it checks out, it's not a problem.
17:54 <@Drag0n> what part of "and/or" do you not get ?
17:54 <@Drag0n> the oddly worded one is " frequent involvement with authorities even as a juvenile"
17:55 <@Drag0n> sooo, if your cousin is a cop, and you talk to them a lot? <g>
17:55 <@Dagmar> No, that would be for people like Maverick..
17:55 <@Drag0n> hehe
17:56 <@Dagmar> I'm serious about an arrest _not_ being an instant qualifier
17:57 <@Dagmar> The purpose of the reliability check is to figure out if you're _reliable_ or not.
17:57 <@Dagmar> "Unexplained affluence" amounts to "Do we think this person is working for the fucking mob?"
17:58 <@Drag0n> yeah, thats an obvious one, drug dealer clause
17:58 <@Dagmar> I've discussed this at length with FBI, DoD, NSA, and CIA people.
17:59 <@Dagmar> Now, if you've been in bankruptcy four times and are currently being chased by skip-tracers, not only are you unreliable you're a risk because someone might be able to buy you
18:00 <@Drag0n> yeah, that i can see, well, once im working, i may deal with the tla's to try and figure out what my status is, i just cant risk the travel and money to find out 3 weeks down the line that i cant get one
18:00 <@Dagmar> Ah
18:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> alright.. I'm going back to work
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18:04 <@NotLarry> need mysql help
18:04 <@brimstone> ask little billy DROP TABLES
18:04 <@NotLarry> I want to flush all rows from lt_articles_comments , what would the command be?
18:05 <@brimstone> EMPTY i think
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18:08 <@NotLarry> Thank you Dagmar for typeing my question into google!
18:08 <@NotLarry> http://letmegoogleitforyou.com
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18:09 < Synx_hm> god damn it
18:09 < Synx_hm> i cannot for the life of me get two finger synaptic scrolling working
18:11 <@Corydon76-dig> NotLarry: flush all rows?
18:11 <@Corydon76-dig> delete all rows?
18:11 <@Dagmar> When you Google 'flush all rows' it becomes really easy.
18:11 <@Corydon76-dig> empty the cache?
18:12 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm asking what he's trying to do
18:13 <@Dagmar> He's already done it
18:14 <@Dagmar> Oh but wait... Are you saying you couldn't understand his question?
18:14 <@Dagmar> His perfectly reasonable question that was voiced using quite normal English??
18:14 <@Dagmar> Meh.  Nothin' against you Corydon
18:15 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm saying the meaning was ambiguous
18:15 <@Dagmar> Just rmember that the next time someone brings up that fucking r3d4wn nonsense again
18:16 < eryc> delete from table;
18:16 <@Dagmar> See, you say the meaning was ambiguous.  I understood it fine.
18:17 <@Dagmar> But you know, it probably helps that Notlarry wasn't a dick about it
18:17 <@Dagmar> ;)
18:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, did he mean 'DELETE *' or did he mean 'FLUSH TABLES;' ?
18:17 <@NotLarry> ok, I've removed the software from the server now, so, we can drop it:)
18:17 <@Dagmar> Dude I know why you didn't understand his question
18:18 <@Dagmar> It's a damn near perfect parallel of the problem I had
18:18 <@Dagmar> The word 'flush' has a specific meaning to you, because you know what you're doing with SQL.
18:19 <@Corydon76-dig> and also because I program against libc
18:19 <@Dagmar> Yep.  That too.
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19:20 <@sdodson> weeee oh weeee oh weee
19:20 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: why do you program against libc?!
19:21 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: It's not the only library I use, but it's a fairly major one
19:21 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: you doing application stuff or system stuff?
19:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Depends on how you look at it
19:22 <@Corydon76-dig> It's not the kernel, but it is a platform
19:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Tell me you're not a C++ bigot
19:23 <@sdodson> It doesn't matter, either way you answer I'll lambast you cause i'm more righterest.
19:23 <@sdodson> go oo or go home!
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19:23 <@Corydon76-dig> OO is a programming technique, not a language feature
19:24 <@Corydon76-dig> "If all you have is a hammer..."
19:24 -!- sdodson changed the topic of #se2600 to: blank topics suck! hooray
19:25 <@sdodson> No one has sent me any useful e-mail inquite some time!
19:28 <@Dagmar> He's not a bigot, just a congenital asshole.
19:30 <@sdodson> Dagmar: This is true. Hey, how bout you lick my nuts?
19:32 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I was licking Peaches' nuts this morning...
19:33 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: That's cool I guess. I don't see how that's relevant however.
19:33 <@sdodson> You're not dagmar, and my nuts are currently unlicked.
19:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, ask Peaches if I can lick your nuts in lieu of Dagmar
19:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Might as well give the work to somebody who wants to do it...
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19:35 <@sdodson> Oh he wants to.
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20:00 <@ShadowHntr> DON'T TOUCH THAT SQUIRREL'S NUTS !
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20:01 <@sasquatc4> uclibc ftw
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20:04 <@polerin> wow
20:05 <@polerin> today sucked
20:05 < CRasH180> Why is that?
20:05 <@polerin> blew my nose, ended up with a massive earache and so disorented I had to go to the bathroom to dry heave
20:05 <@polerin> messed me up for like 3 hours
20:05 < CRasH180> woah
20:05 <@Dagmar> Maybe next time don't blow so hard it backs up into your ears
20:05 <@polerin> (I've got a head cold so I'm exactly with it)
20:06 <@ShadowHntr> polerin: yikes
20:06 < CRasH180> Were you trying to have your brain suck into the front of your head?
20:06 <@ShadowHntr> hope you're ok
20:06 <@polerin> I didn't blow that hard dag :P
20:06 <@polerin> It just popped
20:06 <@polerin> my ears were stuffed up inside anyway
20:06 <@ShadowHntr> punctured eardrum?
20:06 <@ShadowHntr> :/
20:06 <@polerin> nah
20:06 <@polerin> I can hear and it's receding
20:06 <@polerin> it's just all junked up
20:06 <@ShadowHntr> sure you don't have an ear infection?
20:06 <@Dagmar> Your eustacian tubes do basically link your nose to your ears, so still.. Don't blow quite that hard
20:06 <@polerin> I'm hoping it's not turning into one.  If it continues more than a day or so I'll go to a doc
20:07 <@polerin> Dagmar: I didn't blow that hard.  I was already backed up from the head cold
20:07 <@Dagmar> You backed up a bunch of fluid and increased the internal pressure on one ear (or both of your ears) which brutalized your inner ear and is what caused the disorentation
20:07 <@Dagmar> Either that or you're pregnant.
20:07 <@polerin> lol
20:07 <@Dagmar> ...somehow I don't think ti's the latter.
20:07 <@polerin> yes I know what happened dag
20:07 <@polerin> I'm just saying it happened and it sucked
20:08 <@Dagmar> Trust me, as a kid who had tubes in his ears at age 2 and a chronic sinus and allergy sufferer, that's what went down
20:08 <@polerin> my world literally started spinning at an insane rate
20:08 < CRasH180> I would nope not
20:08 <@polerin> Hell i'd be ok with being pregnant, but it'd be a bit of a supprise :P
20:08 <@Dagmar> I can sketch the whole assembly of pieces of the ear and sinuses from memory from being in the doctor's office so much as a kid
20:09 <@Dagmar> Just be glad you've (apparently) never had an inner ear infection
20:09 < CRasH180> That makes for some good dinner conversation
20:09 <@Dagmar> That dizziness *doesn't stop*
20:09 <@polerin> yeah I've been disorented from that type of thing before
20:09 <@polerin> but this was way beyond that
20:09 <@Dagmar> Last one I had was when I was 15, and I had to elbow crawl to the bathroom if I didn't want to faceplant twice on the way there
20:09  * polerin nods
20:09 <@polerin> This one didn't stop for about 15 minutes
20:09 <@polerin> and then my ear popped and let off some pressure
20:10 <@polerin> and I was only Slightly disorented :P
20:10 <@Dagmar> So you're pretty much just reaffirming what I'm telling you there.
20:10 <@polerin> tried to come back and sit at the desk and my computer montitors were sliding to the left
20:10 <@Dagmar> I used to be in the doctor's office about once every two months for ear infections until I was about 10
20:10 <@polerin> yeah, I'm not dissagreing with what you said happened, I'm just saying I didn't blow that hard :P
20:11 <@Dagmar> You don't have to blow terribly hard when it's all stuffed up
20:11 <@polerin> apparently ;P
20:11 < CRasH180> I can attest to that
20:12 <@Dagmar> You just have to get it to get unblocked for long enough to pump fluid in there
20:12 <@Dagmar> Stretching your face can make that happen
20:12 < CRasH180> via firehose?
20:12 <@polerin> yeah trust me I streached my face out
20:13 <@polerin> I may not have had ear infections, but I had lots of sinus infections
20:13 <@polerin> so I'm well aware of that linkage
20:14 <@Dagmar> I've only managed to have what happened to you get me once or twice, but I know how to clear the tubes so I never like, hit the floor or anything
20:15 <@Dagmar> If you ever see me pinchin' my nose shut and inflating it, I'm basically trying to clear my ears
20:15 < astralsin2> w00t, got my new rig today... well, most of it
20:15 -!- astralsin2 is now known as AstralSin
20:15 <@Dagmar> Gentle pressure and hold it to pry the eustacian tubes open, then swallow as you let go and it'll generally push some of the fluid back out
20:19 <@polerin> Dagmar: yeah that's what I was trying when it popped
20:19 <@polerin> I was blowing fairly gently
20:19 <@polerin> it must have been pretty badly clogged for it to have reacted like that
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20:33 <@dc0de> ahh the valsalva maneuver
20:35 <@Dagmar> der whosit?
20:37 <@dc0de> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valsalva_maneuver
20:37 <@dc0de> it's the whole, "blow while you hold your nose thing"
20:37 <@dc0de> it has an actual name.
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20:38 <@Dagmar> Hmm... .I had no idea.  Thanks
20:38 <@dc0de> np... i do the valsavla three times a day... it has been proven to keep ear infections down...
20:39 <@dc0de> and as proof, I've only had one in the past 4 years since my ENT told me to do it three times per day.
20:39 <@Dagmar> Same here, mainly because it's been the only way I've avoided ear infections for the last 10 years, so I'd say it's damn well working
20:39 <@dc0de> ahh, I wish I'd have known about it 10 years ago... :)
20:40 <@Dagmar> Well, I got sick a *lot* as a kid so it was kinda on my mind to work out WTF I could do to stop it
20:40 <@Dagmar> If the problem was keeping bacteria out of the fluid in the ears, I couldn't do anything about that, but I could pump the fluid out at every possible turn, and possibly enlarge my eustacian tubes a bit over time
20:45 <@dc0de> that's cool...
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21:12 <@sdodson> Just put peroxide in yo ears.
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21:35 <@dasunt> http://fukung.net/v/10584/d16c552c88934c14ddfe37fcd679a922.jpg
21:38 <@sdodson> http://ghewgill.livejournal.com/120879.html
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21:44 <@dasunt> Zip code + DOB + gender.
21:44 <@dasunt> I could see that.
21:48 <@brimstone> there's the fun birthday paradox too
21:49 <@brimstone> In a group of 23 (or more) randomly chosen people, there is more than 50% probability that some pair of them will both have been born on the same day.
21:51 <@rhia> know of three people with the day after mine, and one the day before, but no one (personally) with mine
21:51 <@brimstone> i wonder if that'll make a good ice breaker at work
22:01 <@sdodson> rhia: What's your birthday?
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22:01 <@rhia> 5/27
22:02 <@sdodson> rhia: OMG ME 2!
22:03 <@rhia> heh, nice try, but you've mentioned yours before in here - and it's not on mine
22:03 <@sdodson> Close enough!
22:05 <@rhia> OMG! YOU have a have a birthday every year, too?!?
22:07 < Mercster> my birthday is in january yaaaay
22:07 < Mercster> IM ACCEPTING GIFTS
22:07 <@sdodson> rhia: Mine is within 10 days of yours.
22:08 < Mercster> my sister and i share a birthday, 4 years apart
22:08 < Mercster> my parents didnt even plan it
22:08 <@rhia> Mercster: 2 of my sisters are like that, 3 yrs apart
22:08 < Mercster> rhia: nice
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22:40 <@Dagmar> Hmm.... Sisters...
22:40 <@Dagmar> ...and they're how old?
22:43 <@aestetix> are they hot?
22:44 <@Dagmar> No, no, no.  You can't ask that up front,.
22:44 <@Dagmar> You have to pretend to have a genuine interest.
22:44 <@Dagmar> You know, in them as people.
22:44 <@Dagmar> ;)
22:46 <@sdodson> Why? I won't be getting any anyway. May as well be up front about my intentions.
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22:51 < eryc> Google  	
22:51 < eryc> Error
22:51 < eryc>  
22:52 < eryc>     Translation from English into English is not supported.
22:52 <@Dagmar> lol
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23:02 <@aestetix> aww
23:02 <@aestetix> That sucks.
23:05 <@Drag0n> do they have an english to engrish translator
23:08  * brimstone does: s/l/r/g
23:10 < Mercster> :P
23:11 <@sdodson> 'If you have a problem with a part of Linux other than the kernel, you may end up at the short end of the "we don't support that particular add-on, but we're sending a request out to the community and we hope that the grad student who developed it three years ago will see it and respond" stick from your Linux vendor. With Solaris you contact Sun and we fix it.'
23:12 <@brimstone> so, if there's a problem with the Solaris kernel, they email a grad student to fix it?
23:12 <@Drag0n> eventualy, 2 major revisions latter
23:12 <@Dagmar> fix?
23:12 <@Dagmar> heh
23:14 <@sdodson> http://blogs.sun.com/GeorgeTrujillo/entry/advantages_of_solaris_and_opensolaris
23:15  * sdodson submits brimstone to a disjunctive syllogism
23:15 <@brimstone> i'm not old enough!
23:15 <@brimstone> i need an adult!
23:15 <@sdodson> Did that give you the uh-oh feeling?
23:16 <@sdodson> I think dagmar would benefit from my statement to put brimstone's into context.
23:20 < Mercster> reminds me of the time grandma touched my bad place
23:22 <+SmthingPrductive> lucky bastard
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23:22 < Mercster> grandma's so hot
23:22 < Mercster> ballboy
23:23 <+SmthingPrductive> I totally whacked off to her giving you head the other day
23:24 < Mercster> inappropriate
23:24 < Mercster> get your own grandma
23:24 <+SmthingPrductive> :'(
23:25 <+SmthingPrductive> can I introduce your grandma to my grandma? they'd, like, be totally hot together
23:25 < Mercster> my grandma only has eyes for me
23:25 < Mercster> i will not allow some other grandma to come between us
23:27 <+SmthingPrductive> but what if they want you to come between them? how could you resist?
23:27 < Mercster> it's pretty much only hot cuz im related to her
23:27 < Mercster> see how that works
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23:29 <@sdodson> Well this is a thoroughly disturbing conversation. I think it's time for bed.
23:30  * Mercster waves!
23:30 <@Drag0n> tell your grandma hello when you do
23:31 <@Catonic> hi sdodson
23:31 <@sdodson> I don't have any grandmas.
23:33 < Mercster> inconceivable!
23:34 <@Catonic> Do I want to even know what I've walked into?
23:35 < Mercster> Catonic: that would depend on a few variables
23:38 <@Catonic> that means no
23:38 < Mercster> huh, new movie about the david frost nixon interviews
23:38 < Mercster> id like to see tat
23:38 < Mercster> s/tat/that
23:48 <@Catonic> you know what's great? when you're handed something beautiful in life, and do everything in your power to fuck it up.
23:49 <+SmthingPrductive> you kill another chick?
23:50 <@aestetix> Catonic: maybe you should go after men
23:51 < Mercster> hah
23:52 <@Catonic> maybe I should.
23:53 <@Catonic> or maybe I'll leave that to my 30-year old cousin, who is gay.
23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Maybe you should go after whatever comes your way
23:54 <@Catonic> forgot I'd never told y'all about him.
23:55 <@Catonic> after he came out, a lot of the family cut ties.
23:56 <@Catonic> I just never saw him after he went away to college.
23:58 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: tried that as well. worked right up until the point where I sobered up and freaked the fuck out.
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