--- Log opened Wed Dec 03 00:00:02 2008
00:00 <@mtown_nerd> And my coworkers are like "Just drop the res"
00:00 <@jb7od> we got alot of old cats. i'm down with 60+ engineers wanting 1024x768
00:00 <@mtown_nerd> And I'm like "...yeah, no."
00:00 <@sdodson> windows needs UIs that scale relative to the dpi like OSX has
00:00 < Mercster> whatever makes them stop talking
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00:00 < Mercster> and stop calling you
00:00 <@jb7od> AHAHA
00:00 <@mtown_nerd> In our staff meetings, I end up sounding like some kinda' psycho user advocate or something, because I seem to be the only one willing to, like, make the user experience more appealing to users without robbing them of functionality (like screen real estate)  :(
00:00 <@jb7od> well na that just means they hate you
00:00 <@jb7od> hahaha
00:01 <@sdodson> You can always blow things up, but operating an LCD at non native resolution is just lame.
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00:01 <@mtown_nerd> owellz
00:01 <@Corydon76-dig> <Mercster> im just the right amount of gay
00:01 <@jb7od> XD
00:01 <@mtown_nerd> >_>
00:01 <@mtown_nerd> lol
00:01 < Mercster> :)
00:01 <@Corydon76-dig> How gay is that, exactly?
00:01 <@mtown_nerd> aaaand...there's Corydon76-dig right out of left field
00:01 <@mtown_nerd> :P
00:01 <@Catonic> mtown_nerd: welcome to thinking outside the box
00:01 <@sdodson> damnit, another one?
00:01 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: ...just the right amount
00:02 <@mtown_nerd> teehee
00:02 <@sdodson> This channel is way too gay.
00:02 <@mtown_nerd> We're multiplying!!> :D
00:02 < Mercster> it's a personal thing
00:02 < Mercster> you guys will find out soon enough
00:02 < Mercster> if i stick around
00:02 < Mercster> JUST HOW GAY I AM
00:02 <@mtown_nerd> A friend of mine who currently lives in Wisconsin was complaining to me because all the straight people that surround him in his daily life are all "turning gay" on him
00:02 <@mtown_nerd> lol
00:02 <@Catonic> oh noes
00:02  * Mercster coughs
00:02 <@sdodson> Well, it's not that, I guess it's just too Corydon76-dig talking about sucking dicks all the time.
00:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: As in, you get more cock than Frank Perdue?
00:02 <@mtown_nerd> huray cawks!
00:02 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: more than frank zappa
00:02 <@mtown_nerd> :o omai
00:03 <@sdodson> Catonic: Lets start our own channel!
00:03 <@mtown_nerd> asl pleash do u haev n e pix? /
00:03 <@Catonic> when queers have a fag-off...
00:03 <@sdodson> Catonic: Me, you, ware.. I guess that's it
00:03 <@mtown_nerd> lol
00:03 <@mtown_nerd> Katie, bar the door! :P
00:03 <@sdodson> THUNDERDOME1111111!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:03 <@mtown_nerd> OMG YES PLZ
00:03 < Mercster> for instance, im not quite gay enough to want a cock in my mouth...i am gay enough, however, to desperately want a dell mini 9
00:03 <@mtown_nerd> I want Tina's hair in that movie :[
00:04 <@dasunt> Fuck fuck fuck.
00:04 <@dasunt> I hate people
00:04 <@dasunt> I really do.
00:04 <@mtown_nerd> :o
00:04  * mtown_nerd comforts dasunt
00:04 <@Catonic> dasunt: why?
00:04 <@jb7od> HAHAHAHA! not ALL of em just not yourself!
00:04 < Mercster> dasunt: it happens
00:04 <@jb7od> remember?
00:04 <@sdodson> uh oh, i think those are sort of nice little things but I think I'm going to wait another year or two for the processor speeds to increase
00:04 <@dasunt> Catonic: Because trust is betrayed.
00:04 <@jb7od> that's too much
00:04 < Mercster> sdodson: screw it man, $400 for a little net term
00:05 <@jb7od> dasunt:sorry man :/
00:05 < Mercster> i are needing it
00:05 < Mercster> badly
00:05 <@dasunt> It happens.
00:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: speaking of sucking cock, I think I may go wake up the bf with one
00:05 <@dasunt> Anyways, I got booze.
00:05 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: sweet
00:05 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Good for you!
00:05 <@mtown_nerd> lol Corydon76-dig
00:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Later
00:05  * Mercster cheers dasunt 
00:05 <@dasunt> get blown.
00:05 <@mtown_nerd> So...what exactly do you call a "bf" who's been affianced?
00:05 <@mtown_nerd> :x
00:05 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: Nah, I'm gonna give him a blowjob
00:05 < Mercster> mtown_nerd: domestic burden
00:05 <@sdodson> Phew, he's gone, we narrowly made it out alive.
00:05 <@mtown_nerd> lol Mercster
00:05 < Mercster> ;-)
00:05 <@sdodson> ahw damn he's still here!
00:06 < Mercster> sdodson: it never truly ends
00:06 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: :o
00:06 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: he's presently dozing on the couch
00:06 <@Corydon76-dig> and he needs to get up and go to bed
00:06 <@dasunt> Jesus.
00:06 < Mercster> hayzoos
00:07 <@dasunt> Why don't you just gripe at him like a hetero?
00:07 <@dasunt> :p
00:07 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: don't you wish you had a bf like me?
00:07 <@mtown_nerd> "You [hetero] scum!"
00:07 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: I kind of do.  This is part of the whole gay conspiracy, right?
00:07 < Mercster> Heterosexuals: Griping Since Time Immemorial
00:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Anyway, g'night
00:08 < Mercster> night Corydon76-dig
00:08 < Mercster> hmm, chest hurts
00:08 < Mercster> need more beer
00:09 <@dasunt> Heteros only gripe because they deal with the opposite sex.
00:09 < Mercster> yeah
00:09 < Mercster> it's a problem...
00:09 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: you have a bf? I thought you were engaged to a girl now
00:09 <@Catonic> why not be bisexual and bitch about both!
00:10 <@mtown_nerd> Versatility is always a good thign
00:10 <@mtown_nerd> *thing
00:10 <@aestetix> Or be Catonic and bitch about your hand
00:10 < Mercster> aaaaaaaaa
00:10 <@mtown_nerd> And, if the zombie apocalypse ever happens, and your'e down to just you and one other, you can have sex with either.  It's the ultimate in convenience :D
00:10 < Mercster> zing
00:10 <@dasunt> aestetix: Corydon76-dig is a hog.  He takes both women and men.
00:14 <@Catonic> I ran today. God, I am out of shape.
00:14 <@Catonic> apparently I can hit 177 bpm without dying.
00:14 <@dasunt> I did 3 miles today, walking.
00:14 < Mercster> i need to start moving
00:14 < Mercster> sad state of affairs
00:14 <@aestetix> I didn't even leave the house today :/
00:15 < Mercster> aestetix: i usually do situps and pushups, dont have to leave but, at least it's something..
00:15 <@Catonic> aestetix: did you even eat?
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00:16 < Mercster> i actually ordered a set of those rotating pushup handles, they're kinda neat
00:16 < Mercster> definitely harder than a normal pushup, and it kinda makes you feel like doing them
00:16 < Mercster> since you're using some sort of crap you bought
00:18 <@mtown_nerd> lol Mercster
00:18 <@mtown_nerd> While the bf disagrees, push-ups, even standard ones, are fantastic :D
00:18 < Mercster> except i havent touched them in more than a month
00:18 < Mercster> :|
00:18 < Mercster> so ya that's working out
00:18 <@mtown_nerd> And there are about 20349384089 variations of the standard push-up
00:18 < Mercster> mtown_nerd: yeah, these things just make it easier to hit more muscle groups in a set of reps
00:19 <@mtown_nerd> They look kinda' cool
00:19 < Mercster> they do work
00:19 < Mercster> as far as, working you out more
00:19 < Mercster> or they do me anyway, im no pushup genius
00:19 <@mtown_nerd> If anything, I wouldn't think they're as hard on your wrists and forearms, since they allow the arms to twist like they naturally are inclined to
00:19 < Mercster> yeah that's how it's advertized
00:20 <@mtown_nerd> It's not completely invalid...but they're really not working you any "harder."  They're just allowing a greater freedom of motion.  doing so typically helps strengthen all the little support and stabilizing muscles that you otherwise wouldn't have to work, since you'd just be pushing against the floor
00:20 < Mercster> yeah
00:20 <@mtown_nerd> Hence why free-weight and free-motion kinda' workouts make you feel it a lot worse
00:20 <@mtown_nerd> lol
00:21 < Mercster> in my experience, the greater degree of motion results in more work ;)
00:21 <@Catonic> and how.
00:21 <@mtown_nerd> It's not so much the main muscle group that's getting worked any harder; it's all the other much smaller groups, too.  heh
00:21 <@mtown_nerd> Yes, well....the way YOU said it wasn't nearly verbose enough
00:21 <@mtown_nerd> So
00:21 <@mtown_nerd> neener!
00:21 < Mercster> yeah, i tend to get to brass tacks
00:21 <@Catonic> exercise geeks: what is the fundamental difference between pectoral fly and bench press?
00:21  * mtown_nerd is trying to figure out how to make it so that WAR will actually keep his FSAA settings, even after closing and re-opening the client.  x_X
00:22 <@mtown_nerd> Catonic, the way in which the target muscle group is worked
00:22 < Mercster> mtown_nerd: havent tried that yet, i subscribe to LOTRO currently
00:22 <@mtown_nerd> Bench pressing works most of the upper body, putting a LOT of emphasis on the shoulders
00:22 <@mtown_nerd> Pec flies typically focus a lot on the "inner" pec and core
00:22 <@mtown_nerd> Depending on how you do them
00:23 <@mtown_nerd> Presses are also considered a "push" chest workout, while flies are considered a "pull"
00:23 <@mtown_nerd> I'm no anatomy expert, so I can't give you *all* the technical details of how each works you....  but they're definitely two different work outs
00:23 <@mtown_nerd> Both excellent to do.  :)
00:24 <@Catonic> good then. I'll keep doing both.
00:24 < Mercster> yeah i can feel, just thinking about it, the vaguely different set of muscles it hits
00:24 < Mercster> but couldnt tell you their names
00:24 <@mtown_nerd> Just don't do them exlusively, or you'll end up lookin' weird because the front of your body is pulling overpoweringly against the back of your body
00:24 <@mtown_nerd> lol
00:24 < Mercster> moderation in all things
00:24 <@mtown_nerd> Well..you can go all out on chest and shit if you want... just make sure that you also go all out on the back, too (without hurting yourself, of course)
00:25 < Mercster> i just need to get back into any physical activity that will elevate my heartrate to some degree and work some of my muscles out
00:25 < Mercster> been lazy too long
00:25 <@mtown_nerd> Like...if you spend an entire night doing flies and benchpresses, make *sure* to spend an entire night doing lower back extensions, reverse flies, rows, etc.
00:25 <@mtown_nerd> Or, as I said, your core and chest muscles will bulk far faster than their opposites, and you'll actually start having problems with posture, bone and joint stress, etc.
00:26 <@mtown_nerd> :]
00:26 < Mercster> fuck that, what do the chicks want
00:27 <@sdodson> crack
00:27 <@Catonic> Heh. I don't have any problems with posture other than the tire around my midsection
00:27 < Mercster> funny, i want crack too
00:27 <@mtown_nerd> Catonic, you'd be realy surprised.  :)
00:27 < Mercster> ive known women who would trade crack for crack
00:27 < Mercster> but i shall speak no more of this evil
00:27 <@mtown_nerd> At any rate, which muscles determine physical appearance isn't always as inuitive as many would have you believe
00:28 < Mercster> id be happy to reduce my gut and get some more tonage
00:28 < Mercster> toning
00:28 < Mercster> ?
00:28 <@mtown_nerd> For example, having huge, bulging arms...people will do curls until the end of time, and they'll still have not have the definition they want.  Most of that is because they're not working the tricep, which is actually a generally larger muscle that sits directly under the bicep.  As it gets bigger, it pushes the bicep up and outward, making it bulge.  :]
00:29 <@mtown_nerd> Merc, diet and cardio
00:29 < Mercster> yeah
00:29 < Mercster> honestly i do alright if i get into a regular routine of just situps and pushups
00:29 < Mercster> i tend to lose weight
00:29 < Mercster> just havent been
00:29 < Mercster> been working up my right bicep lifting beercans
00:29 <@mtown_nerd> hehe
00:30 < CRasH180> and left bicep lifting the food
00:30 < Mercster> heh
00:30 <@mtown_nerd> Well, a lot of people skip the diet part of it and wonder why they never actually tone.  That's one of the hardest aspects of it. I'm actually having to get myself back on track on that myself.  -_-
00:30 < Mercster> CRasH180: i wish it worked that way ;-)
00:30 < CRasH180> me too
00:30 < Mercster> mtown_nerd: i actually naturally eat ok...well, lots of meat, carbs, but i dont have a sweet tooth in my head
00:30 < Mercster> and rarely "snack"
00:31 < Mercster> i generally just eat meals, and drink too much. if i did a low amount of physical activity i wouldnt be far off decent
00:31 <@Catonic> I prefer to go vegetarian, but rely a lot on cheese and the occasional meet
00:31 <@Catonic> like I have steak in the fridge right now, because I'd prefer not to get all of my protien from soy.
00:31 < Mercster> i couldnt imagine going veg
00:31 < Mercster> that just aint in me
00:31 <@Catonic> then I realized the little flour torillas have as many calories as bread, if not more.
00:32 < Mercster> i think you can do meat in a responsible way
00:32 <@Catonic> Mercster: it's not that difficult.
00:32 <@sdodson> refined dense flour
00:32 < Mercster> i wouldnt want to ;-)
00:32 < Mercster> meat and potatoes is what i dream about
00:32 <@mtown_nerd> Meat's not your enemy; neither is bread, despite what many would have you think.  You just have to keep it in check.  if you want meat, go lean...fish, chicken, turkey, *extra* lean beef, etc.  Beans are also a fantastic source of protein.  Avoid "empty" carbs....too much bread, egg pasta, etc...stick to whole grain shit.  Make sure that you keep a caloric deficit, but that the calories you do keep are worth keeping.  Avoid salts, 
00:32 < Mercster> ppl dream about pie, cake
00:32 <@Catonic> I prefer it, but not while working out... omg, it just makes working out painful.
00:32 < Mercster> i dream about meat and potatoes
00:32 <@mtown_nerd> If you <3 potatoes, try switchign to sweet potatoes and cut down the amount you eat.
00:32 < Mercster> i love beans too
00:32 < Mercster> chili is one of my favorite dishes of all time
00:33 < Mercster> i could eat chili every day
00:33 <@Catonic> the biggest problem I have is just moderating..
00:33 <@mtown_nerd> Yeeeah...hence why I mentioned salt. :p
00:33 <@Catonic> it's easy to eat a package of ramen noodles, then something else
00:33 <@ShadowHntr> i like mashed russets, thank you.
00:33 < Mercster> honestly my eating habits arent bad. it's my lack of activity that's bad
00:33 <@mtown_nerd> mmmm...russets are yummy
00:33 < Mercster> just need to move
00:33 < Mercster> ShadowHntr: yea
00:33 < Mercster> im no fan of sweet potatoes
00:33 <@mtown_nerd> Russets are actually some of the better "Standard" spuds to eat.  If you must eat brown spuds, eat Russets.
00:33 < Mercster> not even on thanksgiving
00:33 < Mercster> yuk
00:33 <@Catonic> I like ramen because it's a cheap carb, the problem is it's all carb.. .and makes me look really puffy.
00:34 <@ShadowHntr> lol
00:34 < Mercster> heh
00:34 <@mtown_nerd> Half of ramen's problem, too, is salt, Catonic
00:34 <@Catonic> potato + microwave = happy
00:34 <@mtown_nerd> salt = water retention and muscular dehydration
00:34 <@mtown_nerd> = sadface
00:34 <@ShadowHntr> well i'm gonna head to bed
00:34 <@ShadowHntr> g'nite everyone
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00:34 <@mtown_nerd> g'nith, Shadow :D
00:34 <@Catonic> I eschew the salt or use the low-salt version
00:34 <@mtown_nerd> huray
00:34 <@mtown_nerd> When I do have to use salt, I try to use sea salt or kosher salt
00:34 <@Catonic> if im at home, I have a lot of spices to choose from
00:34 < Mercster> i eat a lot of salt too
00:34 < Mercster> but
00:35 < Mercster> there is actually a bit of a controversy
00:35 < Mercster> amongst some dieticians
00:35 <@Catonic> again, a side effect of going vegan for a short bit... I have more spices than most heterosexual guys would normally own.
00:35 < Mercster> hatred for salt is near universal, but not totally universal
00:35 < Mercster> ive talked to docs who believe fat to be much, much worse than salt
00:35 <@Catonic> I stopped eating at subway because of the salt..
00:35 < Mercster> salt kind of compacts the problem of fat
00:35 <@dasunt> Veganism is worthwhile for 30 days.
00:35 <@sdodson> I have a lot of spices but i end up with duplicates.
00:35 <@Catonic> it's almost as bad as ramen
00:35 <@mtown_nerd> Mercster: It's not really a dietary issue.  Salt's not *bad* for you....not anymore than bread or red meat is.  People just overdo it.  And if you're really trying to tone up, it's nto good, because salt gets in your fat andm akes it a hell of a lot harder to get rid of
00:36 <@sdodson> Like I have three jars of black pepper.
00:36 < Mercster> if you stay away from fat, you can have quite a bit of salt
00:36 < Mercster> mtown_nerd: nod
00:36 <@dasunt> Salt is really easy to gain a tolerance to.
00:36 <@sdodson> Three different curry powders.
00:36 < Mercster> mtown_nerd: i feel ya
00:36 <@dasunt> most things have too much salt.
00:36 <@dasunt> Catonic: You got Mit'mita yet?
00:36 <@mtown_nerd> Anyway...lol...didn't mean to jack the convo
00:36 <@mtown_nerd> ^_^
00:36 <@Catonic> 1720 mg of salt in one packet of ramen
00:36 < Mercster> nah
00:36 < Mercster> Catonic: heh
00:37 < Mercster> Catonic: you wanna make ramen more filling and 10x tastier?  crack an egg into it 5 seconds before taking off the heat
00:37 < Mercster> instant "cheapo ramen egg drop"
00:37 < Mercster> fucking delicious and some protein
00:37 <@Catonic> 6" roast chicken: 830 mg
00:38 < Mercster> (i recommend only chicken ramen for the egg thing)
00:38 < Mercster> Catonic: eh, not TOO bad
00:38 <@Catonic> dasunt: wht the hell is Mit'mita?
00:38 < Mercster> Catonic: i imagine the condiments contribute
00:38 <@Catonic> Mercster: that's without cheese
00:38 <@dasunt> Catonic: A spice from hell.
00:39 < Mercster> Catonic: well, pickles, etc
00:39 <@dasunt> Shows up in Ethiopian cooking.
00:39 < Mercster> doesnt oil and vinegar have salt as well?
00:39 < Mercster> just guessing
00:39 < Mercster> maybe not
00:39 <@dasunt> Its like Berber, but instead of tasting hot, it burns the tongue away.
00:39 <@sdodson> Mercster: yolk included?
00:39 <@Catonic> 125 - 200 mg for cheese on the roast chicken
00:39 < Mercster> sdodson: heh
00:40 <@sdodson> i have no idea what eggdrop includes, sorry
00:40 <@Catonic> dasunt: I pulled my contacts out after eating japalpenos one at a time earlier.
00:40 <@Catonic> I almost blinded myself.
00:40 <@Catonic> anywho, bedtime
00:40 <@sdodson> no that's from fapping
00:40 <@Catonic> I need my beauty rest
00:40 <@Catonic> sdodson: swallow, or it's going in your eye, bitch.
00:42 <@dasunt> Catonic: Just go into a place that has E african food, ask for "mitmita"
00:42 <@dasunt> They'll know it.
00:42 < Mercster> sdodson: oh, yeah, whole egg
00:42 <@dasunt> Also, ask for the cheese that stops the burning.
00:42 <@Catonic> paneer is gud.
00:42 <@dasunt> Avoid the bread though.  Ethiopian bread is nasty.
00:43 <@Catonic> I'll ask around, but if there's ethiopian here, it's likely not in a part of town I want to be caught dead in.
00:43 < Mercster> blegh
00:43 <@dasunt> Around here, the Somalia (some Ethiopian) part of town is the part of town you'll end up dead in at the wrong time of night.
00:44 <@Catonic> here, we just call it "West End"
00:44 <@Catonic> "Oh shit, he got kilt? Shouldn't been in West End after dark. Don' he kno' betta?"
00:44 <@Catonic> this may be a good year for murder though
00:46 <@dasunt> We call it "Riverside" here.
00:46 <@dasunt> Not too bad for murder if you aren't a black immigrant though.
00:46 <@Catonic> aight... im out
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00:49 <@dasunt> G'night.
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01:16 < Mercster> prude
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02:57 <@Catonic> lmfao
02:57 <@Catonic> "that chick just frosted me like I was a fucking cake!!"
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07:49 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: I never said I was engaged to a woman.  I said I had a fiance, not a fiancee.
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07:57 <@aestetix> Oh.
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09:04 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0 h0 h0ez!
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09:47 <@polerin> merrrvhadf
09:47 <@Drag0n> easy for you to say
09:50 <@polerin> actually not today
09:50 <@polerin> my voice is almost gone
09:50 <@Drag0n> well, try harder, get rid of all of it <g>
09:51 <@Lissa> you got what I had.
09:52  * Lissa goes to make tea
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10:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> boom!
10:35 <@rhia> shakalaka
10:36 <@Evilpig> be ashamed.  very ashamed
10:36  * rhia is shameless =)
10:40 <@polerin> we found some awesome mashups last night
10:40 <@polerin> some of them are so smooth you forget it's a mashup
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10:41 <@rhia> polerin:  .... and ... ?
10:41 <@polerin> the boom shackalaka thing reminded me of them because they are cheesy
10:41 <@rhia> heh
10:41 <@polerin> http://djlobsterdust.com/
10:42 <@polerin> http://djlobsterdust.com/index.php/mashups/down-unda-club/
10:42 <@polerin> like that one
10:42 <@polerin> :D
10:49 <@rhia> http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/12/hot-rodding-com.html
10:49  * Lissa bites rhia
10:50 <@rhia> Lissa: careful, i'll just give you a TX version of the cold y'all currently have
10:52 <@rhia> polerin: that's ..... disturbingly catchy
10:53 <@polerin> rhia: see!
10:54 <@polerin> and there are ones that are worse than that (by catchyness)
10:54 <@polerin> http://djlobsterdust.com/index.php/mashups/sting-vs-unkle/
10:54 <@polerin> that one I forgot was a mashup while I was listening to it
10:57 <@rhia> dayum ....
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11:03 <@Evilpig> I honestly just got an email about a customer who's tape backup wasn't working and I asked them to see if a tape was in the drive....  that was the problem....
11:03 <@rhia> heh
11:03 <@brimstone> "Is it plugged in and turned on?"
11:03 <@rhia> that would be a slight issue
11:03 <@Drag0n> user error, replace user and try again
11:04 <@brimstone> Drag0n: lol, man
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11:06 <@rhia> the 800-HP to race at Nurburging is interesting .... store the energy from braking around the tight turns, then hit the electric to accelerate out
11:06 <@rhia> that sounds like a helluva fun drive
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11:08 <@polerin>  rhia some kind of flywheel?
11:09 <@polerin> or just juice?
11:09 <@rhia> link off the above wired article
11:10 <@I-MOD> polerin, capacitor bank?
11:10 <@rhia> 3.3 liter V8 twin turbo paired with a 100 kw electric motor == 800 HP
11:11 <@rhia> hot-rodding 7 racing hybrids
11:11 <@rhia> &
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11:13 <@Lissa> rhia: i'm getting over my cold, so i'm thinking i'll be immune to another round :)
11:13 <@polerin> oh wow this is a good one
11:13 <@polerin> http://djlobsterdust.com/index.php/mashups/birdman-vs-the-who/
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12:23 <@Evilpig> I think I should be able to kill a coworker for being a fucking retard.  bastard has a problem and comes back to the office saying it's a server problem and he can't work on it.  but it's a windows 2003 server and all the desktops are xp.  no matter how he explains it he is saying he can't fix windows.  what a lazy piece of shit
12:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Next Tuesday is the 40th anniversary of this very important presentation:  http://www.1968demo.org/web.html
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12:45 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: rad input device setup <g>
12:46 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: yeah, isn't it?
12:46 <@Corydon76-dig> 3 button mouse
12:46 <@rhia> the lefthand input rocks
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12:58 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: heh
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13:08 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: that guy needs Plus! for some better cursor themes
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13:27 < Mercster> huh chorded keyboard
13:29 < zadeaux> as in musical?
13:30 < Mercster> no
13:30 < Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorded_keyboard
13:31 < Mercster> small device with 5 keys or so that produce characters based on combinations
13:31  * zadeaux was being a smart ass
13:31 < Mercster> ahh
13:32 < zadeaux> i wonder why tty isn't mentioned in that article
13:33 < zadeaux> ahh. they use baudot
13:33 < Mercster> zadeaux: the old school computer demo Corydon76-dig linked to features one
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15:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> My grain
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16:16 <+SmthingPrductive> did oh
16:20 < Synx_hm> ugh my roomate got a ferret
16:20 < Synx_hm> i am not sure what to day
16:20 <@brimstone> have you eatin dinner yet?
16:20 < Synx_hm> i am too much of a pushover
16:20 < Synx_hm> hehe
16:20 < Synx_hm> the fucking thing sticks man
16:20 <@brimstone> you can bbq anything
16:20 < Synx_hm> i dont wana be a prick but i think i am going to tell him that hes going to pay for new carpet when he moves out
16:21 < Synx_hm> hes not going to ruin my new fucking house
16:21 <@brimstone> did he ask "yo, can i get a ferret?"
16:22 < Synx_hm> kinda of
16:23 < Synx_hm> he just went out and went to the pet store and said it wouldn't smell and it would get along with my cat
16:23 <@brimstone> you need to tell him about the carpet now then
16:23 < Synx_hm> whats a good way to broach (spelling?) the subject
16:23 < Synx_hm> i dont wana be a prick but i dont wana get fucked over on this deal
16:24 <@nachoguy> ferret+catapult
16:24 <@brimstone> "your ferret sticks, you said it wouldn't, plan to replace the carpet when you move out"
16:24 < Synx_hm> haha
16:24 < Synx_hm> ya
16:24 <@brimstone> oooh! just put a ferret head in his bed
16:24 <@brimstone> he'll get the idea
16:24 < Synx_hm> man i hate having a roomie, it ruins friendship
16:24 < Synx_hm> but helps so much to pay the bills
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16:32 < Synx_hm> man i need to pay down some debt
16:32 < Synx_hm> mortgage + credit card + fixed rate loan + credit for random shit same as cash deals :(
16:33 < Synx_hm> anyone else not keep a budget?
16:34 <@aestetix> wow my isp is messed up
16:34 <@aestetix> "cannot resolve google"
16:34 < Synx_hm> i stoped using my ISP's DNS servers long ago :)
16:34 < Synx_hm> actually i use them, but added a manual server from elsewhere to my setup on the router
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16:43 < Synx_hm> brb
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16:45 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
16:45 <@ShadowHntr> 161.45.193.4
16:45 <@ShadowHntr> endeavour.network.mtsu.edu
16:46 <@ShadowHntr> that's what i normally use
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17:40 <@sdodson> WHAT?!
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17:55 <@Catonic_lp> jigga what? jigga who?
17:55 <@Drag0n> jiggity, jiggity?
18:17 < Mercster> get thee to a nunnery
18:27 <@Evilpig> [18:26] Meg: my password is something i wont even remember, hence the copy pasting.
18:27 <@Drag0n> password fail
18:28 <@Drag0n> password complexiity fail as well
18:28 <@Evilpig> there is a point at which generating a difficult password is just stupid
18:29 <@Drag0n> yep
18:30 <@Drag0n> if the users cant remember their passwords because they are too complex, then the security you attempted to obtain has failed
18:30 <@Evilpig> [18:28] EvilPig: answer is.  if I am logging your keystrokes neither password is secure.  pick an easy one genius
18:30 <@Evilpig> [18:28] Meg: i have what i think is a secure setup. firewalls, scans, all that happy horseshit
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18:37 <@Catonic_lp> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3011
18:37 <@Catonic_lp> aestetix: ^
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18:38 <@Drag0n> poongate pg-1?
18:40 <@Catonic_lp> I am living proof that the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long
18:42 < Mercster> take it easy, guy
18:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic_lp: I thought you were burning half as bright
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18:53 <@Catonic_lp> I just managed to go from zero to burnout in record time today
18:54 <@Catonic_lp> Corydon76-dig,: I used to think half as bright, then I realized I'm a whole lot smarter than the average bear.
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19:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> yeah
19:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> well
19:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> that's what she said
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19:52 <@Catonic_lp> heya dc0de
20:18 <@dc0de> sup Catonic_lp
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20:24 <@sdodson> sweet catonic h is here
20:24 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: So say I drank about 4 beers in two hours, ending about 30 minutes ago. Is it cool for me to go workout?
20:24 <@sdodson> Assume i'll drink a glass of water right now, one when i get there, and probably one by the time I'm done with my thirty minute shizzle.
20:25 <@sdodson> CATONIC ANSWER ME NOW!
20:25 <@Catonic_lp> dc0de: trying to figure out which winder ur in
20:26 <@Catonic_lp> sdodson: yeah... swimming rules work
20:26 <@Catonic_lp> but you're going to wish you never drank those beers if you're doing cardio
20:26 <@sdodson> That's all I do, cause i'm fat and shit
20:26 <@Catonic_lp> dc0de can tell you more, but basically, your body can put up with a LOT
20:26 <@sdodson> 30 minutes of fast walking
20:28 <@Catonic_lp> sdodson: I'd almost recommedn that you start doing that morning and nigh
20:28 <@Catonic_lp> t
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20:31 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: OKAYZ THNX
20:32 <@Catonic_lp> sdodson: NP KBYE
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20:35 < Peaches84> hello everyone
20:35 < Mercster> these "sonic hearing" earpiece commrcials are hilarious
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20:36 < Mercster> they extol the virtues of being able to hear what's said about yuo across a room, but they're always sating great things in the commercial
20:36 < Mercster> s/sating/saying
20:36 < Mercster> "Bob looks like he's having a lot of fun at his surprise party!"
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20:38 < Mercster> hi Peaches84
20:40 < Peaches84> hey Mercster
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21:24 <@sdodson> Anyone here have advice on kicking developers out of prod systems?
21:24 < Falun|home> are they breaking things?
21:26 < Mercster> sdodson: accounts and passwords?
21:28 < Mercster> Falun|home: developers are always breaking things, the idea is to keep them on systems where breaking things repeatedly before getting it right doesnt impact business ;-)
21:29 < Falun|home> Mercster: understood -- the completion of that though is to call them in the middle of the night when things break (if you're going to deploy shitty code you don't deserve sleep); as long as there is a good test environment it doesn't seem there would be much incentive to screw around with prod
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21:32 <@sdodson> Mercster: I mean as fara s policy goes.
21:33 <@sdodson> Breaking the mentality that a developer needs root on a box in order to achieve their goals.
21:33 <@sdodson> Basically saying "Hey, I run the OS and DBMS. You hand me packages."
21:34 < Mercster> sdodson: dunno, thats just part of good procedure. get management behind you
21:34 <@buu> sdodson: I'm in the exact opposite position
21:34 <@buu> And having to wait 18 hours for a qa build really sucks.
21:35 < Mercster> sdodson: document the negative impact of ad-hoc production changes
21:36  * sdodson crosses his fingers at buu in the shape of a crucifix
21:38 <@buu> sdodson: See, the thing is, now if they have root on QA but not Prod, how will you verify the packages they give to you? Then they don't give you the correct, stuff, you build it, they blame you and demand root to fix it.
21:39 <@sdodson> Assume there's no QA
21:39 <@sdodson> I'm mostly trying to stem the tide of continuously adding functionality without thinking of the performance impact.
21:39 <@buu> How do you assess the performance impact without QA?
21:40 <@buu> Also is the risk of performance problems worth the delay and expense inherent in properly load and QA testing?
21:41 < Mercster> mmmm chili cheese tots
21:45 <@sdodson> buu: I think I'm going to hold off on forcing thist stuff, but force everything to happen through svn then push to prod branches
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23:30 <@dasunt> I know this sounds racist, but damn, I wish white people could cook.
23:32 < Falun|home> we can't?
23:33 <@dasunt> The local grocery stores seem to indicate we can't.
23:33 < Falun|home> howso?
23:34 <@dasunt> Lack of basic ingredients.
23:34 <@dasunt> If I want to buy 25 different types of TV dinners, I'm set.
23:34 <@dasunt> If I want to buy more than a few different types of dried beans, I'm screwed.
23:35 < Falun|home> ahh
23:35 < Falun|home> that kind of sucks
23:35 <@brimstone> we're a shrink wrapped, single serving society still
23:35 <@dasunt> Its kind of sad, but when I'm looking for good raw ingredients, I am more likely to hit up an ethnic grocery.
23:43 < CRasH180> They play to the masses
23:44 < CRasH180> I agree about your opinion of the grocery stores
23:45 <@sdodson> Bah, there's plenty of raw ingerdients.
23:46 <@sdodson> There's a lack of basic ingredients required to make ethnic food yes.
23:48 <@sdodson> I doubt you can go into a grocery store in India and find required ingredients for a lot of american dishes too.
23:48 <@dasunt> we have food?
23:49 < CRasH180> why do you need to cook? Just got McDonalds. They are everywhere all across the world. I would like an McIndia Burger please
23:49 <@sdodson> McDonalds in India is mostly vegetarian.
23:49 < CRasH180> I'm sure
23:49 <@ShadowHntr> lol
23:50 < CRasH180> I was going to same something about that. But, I figured, eh, oh well.
23:50  * dasunt kills CRasH180.
23:50 < CRasH180> aww, I'm dead
23:50 <@dasunt> In other news, I have a friend that doesn't believe that cooking from scratch is cheaper than gas station food.
23:50 < CRasH180> depends on what you are cooking
23:51 <@dasunt> Yes, it does.
23:51 <@dasunt> But a 40# bag of rice is damn cheap.
23:51 < CRasH180> true
23:51 <@buu> Junk food is pretty fucking cheap
23:51 <@buu> That's why all the poor people are fat.
23:52 <@sdodson> buu: I'm not poor!
23:52 <@buu> So what's your excuse?
23:52 < CRasH180> especially after the holidays. discount chocolate
23:52 < CRasH180> excuse
23:52 < CRasH180> discount holiday chocolate
23:53 <@sdodson> buu: i don't care
23:53 <@buu> =[
23:53 <@buu> CRasH180: Like, you can buy those shitty cardboard pizzas for like 3 bucks or whatever
23:54 < CRasH180> That is true. I have thought of doing that.
23:54 < CRasH180> But, then, when I thought of the taste. I thought again
23:54 < CRasH180> If I could not afford much else. Well. I would have to eat that or a lot of rice from the 40lb bag
23:55 <@sdodson> buu: I care now, but it's too late. I'll probaby die before i'm healthy.
23:58 <@dasunt> Junk food isn't that cheap for the calories.
23:58 <@dasunt> Its cheap for not cooking.
23:58 < Mercster> $3-4 for a 2000 calorie burger?
23:59 < Mercster> pretty cheap
23:59 <@sdodson> dasunt: are you on crack dude?
23:59 < CRasH180> mmm, tasty
23:59 <@sdodson> refined sugar and fatty meats = cheap
23:59 < Mercster> yeah, i love burgers
23:59 < Mercster> havent had one in ages
23:59 < CRasH180> and, I just received some Hardee's coupons in the mail
23:59 <@sdodson> Mercster: why not?
23:59 < Mercster> just dont eat out, cant afford it firstly
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