--- Log opened Mon Dec 01 00:00:02 2008 00:03 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o remoford] by ChanServ 00:24 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 00:30 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:14 <@dasunt> Gah, can't sleep. 01:15 <@aestetix> The clowns will kill you. 01:15 <@aestetix> I already paid them, so they better. 01:18 <@dasunt> Gah. 01:18 <@dasunt> OTC sleeping pills are about as effective as pissing into the wind. 01:18 <@scort> oh 01:18 <@scort> wonderful 01:18 <@scort> att shut us off at the shop :( 01:18 <@scort> maybe for you 01:19 <@scort> otc sleeping pills knock me the fuck out 01:22 <@dasunt> I wish I was that lucky. 01:22 <@dasunt> Doubled the dose, nothing. 01:23 <@scort> it's cuz you drink 01:23 <@scort> and cry about shit 01:28 <@dasunt> Fuckoff! 01:32 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@cpe-66-74-233-196.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 01:52 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@cpe-66-74-233-196.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:12 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:17 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:47 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit ["gotta catch the train"] 05:45 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-98-233-94-192.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 05:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 06:06 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-98-233-94-192.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:05 -!- nated0g [n=Nathan@74.221.8.176] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 07:35 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: the CC fees are nonrefundable to us, so we take the same line to people. If they cancel, only $19 of $20 admission is refundable 07:40 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:40 -!- brimston_ [n=brimston@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:42 -!- brimston_ is now known as brimstone 07:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 08:13 <@Shadow404> all my work is done for the day...does this mean i can go home early? 08:14 <@I-MOD> yes 08:15 <@Shadow404> woot, me goes home to finish the day teleworking 08:19 <@Shadow404> no fukcing way, its snowing in nashville 08:20 <@brimstone> why are you in nashville? 08:21 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has joined #se2600 08:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 08:28 <@Shadow404> business 08:29 <@Shadow404> circling bna at 9,000 feet atm 08:29 < Peaches84> kool 08:31 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:31 <@Shadow404> mawning 08:34 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 08:35 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@60-24.9-67.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 08:35 -!- Catonic_lp [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:35 <@oddball> Yep, it's snowing, but it's not sticking. 08:35 <@Dolemite> That's our second snow of the season, too 08:35 <@oddball> I predict the roads will be a skating rink in the morning. 08:36 <@oddball> I missed the first one. 08:36 <@Dolemite> It was the 20th, I think 08:37 <@Dolemite> I was up in Pigeon Forge on the 18th and it snowed that morning, then I drove back home and a couple of days later it was snowing in Smyrna 08:37 <@oddball> I must have been in Pulaski that day or something. 08:38 <@Shadow404> finally time to land 08:39 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : So where are you going in Nashville? 08:39 <@Shadow404> in and out 08:39 <@Dolemite> Oh, so visiting Corydon again. 08:39 < Peaches84> lol 08:39 <@Shadow404> gotta hit peak 10 colocation center to change out a router 08:39 <@Shadow404> lawl, i knew that would be a cheap retort 08:40 <@Dolemite> which one? Brentwood, Cool Springs I or the new Cool Springs II? 08:40 <@Shadow404> let me check the address 08:41 <@Shadow404> Nashville II franklin 08:41 <@Dolemite> Seabord Lane? 08:41 <@Shadow404> 7100 commerce way 08:42 <@Dolemite> ah, that would be Cool Springs I 08:42 <@Dolemite> the old Service Merchandise HQ 08:42 <@Shadow404> ah, ok 08:43 <@Neoteric> anyone subscribe to the new yorker? (or have an account online w/ them?) 08:44 <@Shadow404> lawl: http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/celebrity-pictures-nimoy-starship.jpg 09:00 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 09:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 09:01 -!- critch [n=critch@c-71-228-230-70.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o critch] by ChanServ 09:01 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 09:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o M0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 09:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> wow... could we have a longer topic? 09:03 <@I-MOD> Neoteric, bugmenot might have a login or 5 for it 09:04 <@Shadow404> router made it in one piece, whew 09:04 <@I-MOD> http://www.bugmenot.com/view/newyorker.com 09:04 <@I-MOD> looks like that's a resounding no 09:04 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: This topic intentionally left blank. 09:12 <@Neoteric> I-MOD: i've never sucessfully used bugmenot 09:13 <@I-MOD> it works for me for most of what I want to see, generally the new york times 09:16 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 09:20 -!- zady is now known as zadeaux 09:39 -!- Catonic_lp [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 09:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic_lp] by ChanServ 09:40 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@60-24.9-67.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:01 -!- Catonic_lp [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:06 -!- Catonic_lp [n=cinotac@60-24.9-67.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 10:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic_lp] by ChanServ 10:40 <@Shadow404> woot, done with the router instal, time to catch a plane home. btw, i like that colo Dolemite 10:40 <@Shadow404> had to borrow a crash cart and that was no problem 10:41 <@Shadow404> plus the security was professional, but still courteous 10:44 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : They have good procedures, but their facilities are a bit lacking. 10:44 <@Shadow404> well, we dont have *much* stuff there, more of an extension, so works perfect for our needs 10:44 <@Dolemite> They don't have the capacity to support high density environments and because of their location, the fiber already in the area isn't very high 10:45 <@Shadow404> this is true, i could see that being an issue 10:45 <@Dolemite> They are an excellent facility for small customers (less than 10 racks) 10:45 <@Shadow404> definantly 10:45 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has joined #se2600 10:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-lap] by ChanServ 10:47 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: there was a sign at security desk that included "please check all firearms at sign-in" 10:47 <@Shadow404> heh 10:47 <@Shadow404> how many techs have a carry license really? 10:48 <@rhia> Shadow404: a decent percentage of this channel do 10:48 <@Shadow404> that is a good point, but "this" channel is still a small percentage of the total tech population 10:49 <@Shadow404> and i wouldnt exactly make a comparison to the real world based on this channel either 10:49 <@rhia> geeks like gadgets - guns are mechanical gadgets that go bang and make holes in things 10:50 <@Shadow404> flurries still falling on this side of town bt 10:50 <@critch> high power hole punch 10:50 <@Shadow404> *btw 10:50 <@Shadow404> heh, yeah, probably why im into making rocket fuel 10:53 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 10:56 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:02 < vyrus001> free shipping on cyber monday for thinkgeek 11:07 <@rattle> If anyone is bored, Thomas Friedman is about to be giving a talk at my office. We are streaming live here: http://www.americanprogress.org/events/2008/12/climate.html/streaming.html 11:19 < vyrus001> your office must be pretty the shit 11:19 <@aestetix> vyrus001: he has a very loose jaw 11:20 < vyrus001> heh 11:20 < vyrus001> http://www.americanprogress.org/events/2008/12/climate.html/streaming.html 11:20 < vyrus001> oops 11:21 < vyrus001> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-cyberattack28-2008nov28,0,6441140.story 11:21 < vyrus001> thats what i ment :D 11:22 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #se2600 11:23 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has left #se2600 [] 12:00 -!- nated0g_wrk [i=nated0g@river191.bigriver.net] has joined #se2600 12:01 < nated0g_wrk> afternoon everyone 12:01 < nated0g_wrk> im just now not busy enough to load up irc 12:01 <@brimstone> we missed you 12:01 < nated0g_wrk> oh bs 12:02 < nated0g_wrk> but thank you anyway 12:02 * polerin grumbles 12:03 < nated0g_wrk> no one to bite? 12:03 <@polerin> actually lissa's home sick today so I could 12:03 <@polerin> but... I'm annoyed 12:03 <@polerin> I want this project done with 12:03 < nated0g_wrk> personal or business? 12:03 < nated0g_wrk> ah gotcha 12:09 <@polerin> http://www.cracked.com/article_16554_5-most-baffling-sex-scenes-in-history-fanfiction.html NSFW 12:18 < vyrus001> http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2008/11/linux-on-iphone.html 12:38 < nated0g_wrk> today.sucks 12:38 <@aestetix> yo 12:42 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 12:42 -!- Catonic_lp [n=cinotac@60-24.9-67.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:47 <@Dagmar> Jesus. 12:47 <@Dagmar> Looks like we have a new Steve Gibson on the 'net 12:47 <@Dagmar> ...and his name is Richard Bennett 12:49 <@aestetix> Dagmar: Catonic said to ask you about when you were in San Francisco 12:49 <@Dagmar> Ask me what? 12:50 <@aestetix> Apparently you had a really good time. *shrugs* 12:50 <@sdodson> Corydon76-lap: Thanks. 12:52 <@aestetix> So uh. God damn. Re: shmoocon tickets 12:52 <@Neoteric> aestetix: i got mine 12:52 <@Dolemite> how many minutes did it take to sell out this time? 1.5? 12:52 <@aestetix> I meant the server issues. 12:53 <@Dagmar> How can one man be *this* wrong: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/01/richard_bennett_utorrent_udp/ 12:54 <@Dagmar> "One rational response is to make UDP the prime candidate for packet discard. When five per cent of users consume half the network.s resources and block access to 75 per cent of its total capacity, it makes sense to target them for throttling. But such throttling will utterly destroy VoIP." 12:54 <@Catonic> sweet 12:55 <@Catonic> do it 12:55 <@Catonic> I so want to see VoIP and DNS get broken. dns dns dns! 12:55 <@Dagmar> I was pretty damn sure UDP already was the prime candidate for packet tossage 12:55 <@Dagmar> TCP > UDP > ICMP 12:56 <@Dagmar> How the Hell is that supposed to negatively affect VOIP anyway 12:56 <@Catonic> what does WoW use? 12:56 <@Dagmar> If someone's VOIP implementation is severely impacted by packet loss, they shouldn't have been doing it over fuckin' UDP. 12:57 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Nothing that will be affected by this crazy old man 12:57 <@Catonic> Dagmar: IAX (Asterisk) uses UDP. 12:57 <@Shadow404> Catonic: udp for wow 12:57 <@Shadow404> just checked 12:57 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Good for them. What's that got to do with anything 12:58 <@Catonic> I'm just saying, if you blanket drop all udp, that's one service that would be impacted. 12:58 <@Shadow404> among MANY others 12:58 <@Dagmar> If you blanket drop all UDP, and you work at an ISP, someone should be fired for not having already fired you. 12:59 <@Dagmar> The point is this, man... 12:59 <@Dagmar> ANyone who implemented something over UDP, the Unreliable Datagram Protocol, and did so in a way that requires all packets arrive all the time... 12:59 <@Dagmar> ...they're a fucking moron. 13:00 <@Dagmar> I'm rather sure that any decent VOIP apps will have no major issues if they suffer from some packet loss. 13:00 <@I-MOD> i thought it was user datagram protocol 13:00 * Dagmar watches the point fly over I-MOD's head. 13:00 <@Shadow404> aka an ackless protocol 13:00 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: it's not the protocol that suffers; it's the underlying codec 13:01 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: No, I never ever would have guessed that 13:01 <@Shadow404> a codec that relies on a poor choice protocol 13:01 <@Catonic> What smells like death in the air? 13:01 <@Shadow404> udp is great for some things, but not for voip 13:01 <@Corydon76-lap> iLBC, for example, is a codec that survives up to 20% packet loss 13:02 <@Shadow404> what does ventrillo use? 13:02 <@Dagmar> UDP, absolutely. 13:02 <@Drag0n> its more fud probably paid for by the big media groups to make bittorrent out to be the big bad wolf, FTP has been using udp for years, and before bittorrent, it was the major trafic source for file transfers 13:02 <@Dagmar> You can tell from the way it (mis)behaves 13:02 <@Corydon76-lap> Anyway, meeting time 13:02 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, udp is great for voip, because human speech has so much redundancy, you can experience massive losses and still get your meaning across 13:02 < zadeaux> have to factor in qos unless you're talking about internet 13:02 <@Dagmar> Drag0n: Judging from the other things Dick Bennett has written I suspect you're right 13:03 <@Dagmar> *Most* of his past articles published to the Register just scream "shill" 13:03 <@Shadow404> yeah, vent uses upd and tcp 13:04 <@Dagmar> Drag0n: Except FTP doesn't use UDP, by the way. 13:04 <@Shadow404> tcp to keep track of connections ot the server and udp for actual voip data 13:04 <@I-MOD> depends on the implementation 13:04 <@I-MOD> some are all udp 13:04 <@Dagmar> Some whats? 13:05 <@Dagmar> Dude, I hope you're not talking about TFTP. 13:05 <@critch> I-MOD: speech isn't redundant. It is just more fault tolerant. 13:06 <@Dagmar> critch++ 13:06 <@I-MOD> Dagmar, voip protocol implementations 13:06 <@I-MOD> critch, ok, you got me on a technicality 13:06 <@Catonic> So I went and checked out Kelly Ingram park and the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham over the weekend. 13:07 <@Catonic> I wish I'd taken pictures of one of the scuptures -- it's three large metal dogs coming out of black monoliths, on either side of the sidewalk. 13:07 <@Shadow404> u picked up a church chick? 13:07 <@aestetix> This reminds me. 13:07 <@Dagmar> I-MOD: Either way, the fundamental difference between UDP and TCP that they basically teach you the first day they start talking about socket coding is that TCP is reliable, UDP is not. 13:07 <@Catonic> I've lived here for 2.5 years and I've never seen the park. 13:07 <@aestetix> I need to get yourmom@bigbrea.st 13:07 <@critch> I-MOD: and the use of UDP in VoIP is to make jitter not a problem. If you receive packets out of order, the older ones are dropped. The newer ones played. This allows you to not gain so much in delay as the call continues. 13:07 <@Dagmar> UDP packets shouldn't be treated as guaranteed delivery. 13:08 <@Dagmar> UDP is something you use when latency is more important than accuracy. 13:08 <@Catonic> there's another installation which is a large monolith with two water cannons. 13:08 <@Dagmar> ...and what this Bennett guy is saying is just wrong. 13:08 <@Catonic> I get the sense that some people try to keep the wounds open, rather than let time heal them. 13:09 <@I-MOD> it sounds like we're agreeing... 13:10 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:13 <@aestetix> anyone wanna host bigbrea.st 13:16 <@Dagmar> I-MOD: BTW< yeah it is "user" datagram protocol, but it is more useful (and meaningful) to refer to it as "unreliable" datagram protocol for bunches of reasons. 13:16 <@sdodson> unconfirmed, it's relatively reliable 13:21 <@I-MOD> lol 13:26 <@Drag0n> its normaly the application that makes the reliablility 13:26 <@Shadow404> the only thing thats truely unreliable is you sdodson 13:28 <@critch> Drag0n: not really, it can be the application that makes unreliable transport into fault tollerant. 13:30 <@critch> Drag0n: VoIP doesn't mind the loss of data. It is the user who may not enjoy it. 13:31 <@Drag0n> true, but the application has the opportunity to correct the unreliability depending on intelligent algorithms and extraolating what SHOULD be there 13:35 <@critch> of course that is assuming that the information is important. If I implemented a tracker for temprature, it is possible to drop some of my readings especially if I don't expect tempt to change more than a certain amount over any given reading. So loosing information isn't always a problem. 13:37 <@Drag0n> yep 13:46 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@ryan.worldspice.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:58 -!- remoford [n=remoford@m9c72fa48.tmodns.net] has joined #se2600 13:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o remoford] by ChanServ 14:20 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #se2600 14:26 <@Dagmar> BY the way, whoeever said Blizzard uses UDP would be worng 14:26 <@Dagmar> I had to go back and check to be sure 14:29 -!- Cinotac is now known as Catonic_lp 14:31 -!- remoford [n=remoford@m9c72fa48.tmodns.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:32 <@nachoguy> ttp://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081201/ts_nm/us_usa_alabama_jeffersoncounty_mayor_3 14:33 <@Dagmar> http://www.memestreams.net/users/dagmar/blogid10333510/ <-- my counter to Bennett's retarded article 14:36 <@timoguin> Anyone know SqueekyPenguin / Amber Jade on twitter? 14:54 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:00 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:13 <@Corydon76-lap> Can anybody in Nashville confirm a report of accumulating sleet on the ground? 15:15 <@Dagmar> I can't necessarily confirm it, but having just come back in from outside it wouldn't suprise me 15:15 <@Dagmar> It's cold as hell, and ther'es frozen stuff falling from the sky. 15:15 <@Dagmar> Radar doesn't seem to indicate that there's any considerable amount of stuff falling anywhere tho 15:16 <@Dagmar> I've been watching it closely considering that I've seen nothing about salt trucks and I leave work at midnight, so I might be looking at an "interesting" drive home 15:17 <@critch> Corydon76-lap: just looked out the window of my office and see nothing on the ground. 15:17 <@Shadow404> wohoo, made it back to atlanta before it got bad 15:18 <@Corydon76-lap> critch: I just got a report of accumulating sleet near Grassmere, so I wanted to see if I needed to leave here well before dark 15:18 <@critch> I'm near airport with nothing coming down nor accumulating. 15:18 <@Corydon76-lap> I really don't feel like spending hours tonight on the road due to TN drivers not knowing how to drive in the stuff 15:19 <@Dagmar> Acocrding to the meteorology reports it should taper off and/or die out between 6pm and 9pm, and it's not doing _much at all_ at the present time 15:19 <@critch> looks like eveything is staying south of the loop. No wonder I don't see anything 15:21 <@Dagmar> Whose radar are you looking at? 15:21 <@critch> Corydon76-lap: http://www.tdot.state.tn.us/cctv/cctvnash/cam87.asp 15:21 <@critch> I was looking at weather.com 15:21 <@critch> http://www.weather.com/weather/local/37076?from=recentsearch 15:21 <@Dagmar> Okay. I'll check there now. I was looking at wtvf and wunderground 15:21 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: I was checking out newschannel5.com 15:22 <@critch> weather.com doesn't show Hermitage dropping below freezing till after 8pm. 15:22 <@Dagmar> OKay, I thought weather.com might be showing something distinctly different from the other sites 15:22 <@Dagmar> Very, very light weather 15:23 <@critch> Corydon76-lap: I wonder who is giving you those reports, this is near grassmere, http://www.tdot.state.tn.us/cctv/cctvnash/cam54.asp 15:24 <@Corydon76-lap> critch: Peaches84 15:24 <@Dagmar> Probably someone who wasn't careful enough to distinguish between "It's not melting" and "significant amounts aren't falling" 15:25 <@critch> Corydon76-lap: This should help when you need that kind of info, http://ww2.tdot.state.tn.us/tsw/smartmap.htm 15:26 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: careful, now, you're talking about my fiance. 15:27 <@critch> Corydon76-lap: your are engaged? 15:27 * critch slapps self for screwed up sentence 15:27 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: So chide her for not being a little more explicit 15:27 <@Corydon76-lap> critch: I gave him a ring last night 15:27 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: wrong gender 15:27 <@Dagmar> ...or tease her by asking if she needs to make a panicked run to Kroger's. ;) 15:29 <+SmthingPrductive> just forwarded a message to one of our girls, saying "Don't shoot the messenger... Make him buy you dinner sometime instead ;)" ;) 15:31 <@critch> Corydon76-lap: what are you using for a cell phone nowdays, and do you have a good data plan? 15:33 <@critch> Corydon76-lap: http://wkrn.images.worldnow.com/images/incoming/trafficcans.htm 15:33 <+SmthingPrductive> correction: http://wkrn.images.worldnow.com/images/incoming/trafficcams.htm 15:33 <@critch> err, rather http://wkrn.images.worldnow.com/images/incoming/trafficcams.htm 15:34 <@critch> yeah, was hand typing from my phone to my PC. tried it to verify after hitting the enter button. 15:34 <@Corydon76-lap> critch: Sidekick III, unlimited data 15:34 <+SmthingPrductive> was hoping to go there and see 'some women of exceptionally low inhibitions about public nudity' directing traffic 15:34 <@critch> that URL should probably help you look up traffic conditions from your phone. 15:39 * Dementia shivers in the frozen north 15:40 <@nachoguy> hah 15:40 <@nachoguy> enjying the snow? 15:40 <@Dementia> Whee. 15:40 <@nachoguy> how deep is it by you? 15:41 <@Dementia> It was about 6" this morning. I haven't been out since I got to work 15:41 <@nachoguy> damn 15:41 <@nachoguy> it was like 3 ish inches on my driveway this morning, but yeah, I haven't left the office since I got here 15:41 <@nachoguy> ~weather 60606 15:42 <@nachoguy> bah, dead bot 15:46 <@rhia> snow, that flurry white stuff that floats in the air every couple years? it accumulates on the ground? - in inches!?! what a novel concept 15:47 <+SmthingPrductive> I had a couple flakes accumulate on my scottevest... not enough to measure 15:47 <@Dementia> yeah... I remember when I didn't live in an area where it stuck around for months. Oh yeah. It was last year. 15:48 <+SmthingPrductive> I remember living in an area where we got a couple 12-18" snowfalls a year... 15:48 <@Shadow404> trader 15:48 * SmthingPrductive remembers going home for X-mas last year and shoveling 15:48 <@Dementia> Ok, this is saying 2-4", so it was probably closer to that. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=lot&storyid=19674&source=0 15:51 <@Drag0n> oh, we had that in miami too, they had an explosion at a drug bust 15:52 < nated0g_wrk> you in chicago now Dementia ? 15:52 <@rhia> bet everyone was Very excited about that snow in the air 15:52 <@Dementia> Yes... have been since oct 07 15:52 < nated0g_wrk> been a while since ive been in here 15:52 <@Dementia> fair enough 16:08 <@critch> wow, I love credit unions 16:08 <@critch> just received my intrest refund, wow 16:12 <@nachoguy> I hate marketing people 16:12 <@Dagmar> I'm seriously considering moving to one, but I want to find one that's not going to be getting me second-class citizen treatment with the debit card 16:12 <@critch> I don't have trouble with my card 16:13 <@critch> I also received $1088 back from the interest I paid on my debts 16:13 <@critch> about 11% of the interest I paid in this year 16:14 < oddball> Dagmar: bank fucking with you? 16:15 <@Dagmar> No more than the usual when you're a BoA customer 16:15 <@Dagmar> I just know credit unions tend to not do stupidly risky things with their assets 16:19 <@Dagmar> oddball: Gaia Online got their MMO running (mostly) finally 16:21 <@Dagmar> OH YES 16:21 <@Dagmar> http://www.videojug.com/film/player?id=69ab804d-9b3c-714c-30d7-ff0008ca4067 16:24 <@Dagmar> WTF. Playstation Home was supposed to release on the 19th like I thought, but I see no sign of it 16:25 <@Drag0n> guess their home got forclosed 16:25 < oddball> you thought it was still coming out on time? 16:27 <@Drag0n> sony release anything on time without root kits or back doors? what were you thinking 16:27 <@Dagmar> I expect they'll at least say something when they miss a milestone 16:28 <@Drag0n> and bring attention to their failure? 16:29 < oddball> I was thinking one of my friends mentioned something about it being delayed, but I can't remember the specifics. 16:31 <@Dagmar> Drag0n: Perhaps you should look at that videojug URL 16:32 <@Dagmar> oddball: Well, I know the client went 1.0 week before last or so. I dunno what their holdup is now aside from maybe they don't have all the hardware in place they want 16:37 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:40 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:08 < Catonic_lp> sup ppl 17:09 <@Dagmar> Wow. Zero Punctuation was great this week. They close with a version of the Deus Ex music that they've made their own lyrics for 17:13 <@Dagmar> The real question is, can it take the Crown Of Thorns award away from MythStream? 17:13 <@Dagmar> wrong channel 17:15 < zadeaux> thanks for the tip 17:17 < Catonic_lp> I have a new trackball. I have not known this orgasmic pleasure in too long. 17:17 <@timoguin> I love trackballs. 17:20 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-44-68-147.dsl1.clkvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 17:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 17:20 <@Dagmar> We don't want to hear about you and your ball fondling, thankgs. 17:20 <@timoguin> Don't lie. 17:20 <@Dagmar> I'm not lying. 17:21 <@Dagmar> I still wonder about what kind of mutation results in oddball actually being able to play FPS games with one 17:21 <@timoguin> That is odd. 17:24 <@Dagmar> "Unnatural" is the word I use. 17:29 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:31 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 17:33 -!- zadeaux is now known as zad|afk 17:35 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:41 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:41 < Catonic_lp> Dagmar: I play FPS with a trackball. 17:46 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:47 < Catonic_lp> oddball: you're a trackball user? 17:48 <@Dagmar> There's a few in every crowd. 17:48 <@Dagmar> Something to do with overpopulation I think 17:49 <@brimstone> didn't know there's a book: http://nmap.org/book/toc.html 17:53 < scribbles> that 3m vertical mouse looks pretty cool 17:54 < scribbles> partner that with a Kinesis Advantage keyboard 18:01 <@Dagmar> ...and after a few weeks, these could be your new hands 18:01 <@Dagmar> http://www.hauntedprops.com/ProductImages/aaaaaaamakeuuuoo/TH154.jpg 18:04 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 18:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 18:09 < Catonic_lp> what's the upper limit on the current generation of IDE drives? 18:09 <@Dagmar> "Goddamn monstrous" 18:09 < Catonic_lp> > 1TB? 18:09 <@Dagmar> Check Newegg 18:09 < Catonic_lp> because PATA is hard to find for me 18:09 <@Dagmar> There's probably 1.5tb IDE drives hitting the market now 18:09 <@Dagmar> Definitely 1.5Tb SATA available 18:19 <@Dagmar> Oh god 18:19 <@Dagmar> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13129158212&sid=1 18:19 <@Dagmar> You don't even have to be playing WoW to "get" that. 18:19 <@Dagmar> ...and it's true. 18:22 * rhia refrains from the obvious WoW & correlating masturbation jokes 18:26 <@aestetix> this rocks 18:26 -!- Falun|home [n=Falun@c-76-17-127-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:26 <@aestetix> I got 2girls1cup to play on my ipod touch 18:27 <@aestetix> I'm whipping it out when I get on a really crowded train, to fuck with people who shoulder surf 18:27 <@Drag0n> ... 18:27 < Catonic_lp> last time a friend of mine did that, they told him he wasn't welcome at Planet Hollywood anymore. 18:28 <@aestetix> The NYC subway system is different :p 18:29 < Catonic_lp> in SF, that might get you laid. 18:29 < Catonic_lp> in NYC, who knows. 18:29 < Catonic_lp> "I can't give you my wallet, both my hands are on my dick!" 18:29 <@aestetix> ick 18:30 <@sdodson> hi 18:31 < Catonic_lp> ?what's up sdodson 18:32 < Falun|home> Atlanta peoples: do folks carpool up for shmoocon or do most fly? 18:36 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: My cholesterol! 18:37 <@sdodson> aestetix: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122809320261867867.html <-- America's Other Auto Industry (The profitable one) 18:47 <@rhia> and Honda's have a better resale value to boot 19:00 -!- CRasH180 [n=crash180@c-68-53-28-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:04 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:08 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:12 -!- dc0de_ [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de_] by ChanServ 19:14 <@sdodson> My car has zomg resale value 19:18 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:24 -!- tcstool_ [n=tcstool@74-44-68-147.dsl1.clkvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 19:24 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-44-68-147.dsl1.clkvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:24 -!- tcstool_ is now known as tcstool 19:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 19:27 -!- nated0g [n=Nathan@74.221.8.176] has joined #se2600 19:53 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:58 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:05 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-44-68-147.dsl1.clkvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:05 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:09 < Catonic_lp> lmfao. 20:09 < Catonic_lp> zak and miri is fucking hilaroious 20:13 -!- dc0de_ [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 20:19 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 20:20 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@dsl092-160-052.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #se2600 20:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 20:21 -!- Synx_hm [n=mrfoo@adsl-226-182-245.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:21 < Synx_hm> ugh 20:21 < Synx_hm> i have to call and spend an hour on the phone with ATT to get 20min of DSL up time 20:21 < Synx_hm> :( 20:22 < Synx_hm> what ever it is that the line engineer does gets me going for about 20min to an hour 20:26 <@Dagmar> Sounds like you have a pretty serious fetish there. 20:26 < Synx_hm> hehe 20:27 <@Dagmar> You think if you got your gf a linesman's buttset and helmet for Christmas that she'd get suspicious? 20:27 < Synx_hm> hehe 20:27 < Synx_hm> i might get her to go with it 20:27 < Synx_hm> god that'd be hot! 20:40 < Catonic_lp> buttset and helmet... where have I seen that before... 20:41 < Catonic_lp> what was that girl's name... 20:41 < Catonic_lp> maria? 20:43 <@Dagmar> Marie 20:43 <@Dagmar> iirc 20:44 < Catonic_lp> that's it 20:44 < Catonic_lp> I remember that name... 20:44 < Catonic_lp> it was the middle name of this chick I was infauated with for years in high school 20:45 < Catonic_lp> most amusing thing about reconnecting with old classmates at parties: finding out the one girl who was on both sides of the fence was fucking one of the cheerleaders. 20:53 <@dc0de> Catonic_lp: so is she still hot? did you nail her? 20:58 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@dsl092-160-052.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:59 <@Dagmar> lol 21:00 < Catonic_lp> she's the reason why I like blondes. and I was very amused to see that she married a guy uglier than me, and put on 30 lbs. 21:00 < Catonic_lp> to the gym... 21:06 -!- DigitalIrony [n=eric@nat/digium/x-e922b07d5b9e5908] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:18 -!- DigitalIrony [n=eric@nat/digium/x-ec126581e25c565a] has joined #se2600 21:22 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 21:27 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:27 <@Dagmar> Whatever happened to working up a sweat by killing the wicked. 21:32 -!- CRasH180 [n=crash180@c-68-53-28-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["That's it! 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That's why she calls me. 23:28 <@aestetix> Catonic: she needs unix pings, not windows pings. Yours die after four thrusts. 23:28 -!- someninjamaster_ is now known as someninjamaster 23:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 23:30 <@sdodson> wow, that was actually quite funny, congrats aestetix 23:38 <@sdodson> aestetix: DID YOU READ MY DAMN LINK? 23:39 <@aestetix> link? 23:39 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 23:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 23:39 <@aestetix> just saw it 23:44 <@ShadowHntr> evening everyone 23:44 <@ShadowHntr> long time no see 23:44 <@ShadowHntr> sup aestetix 23:50 <@Catonic> whereis dasunt? --- Log closed Tue Dec 02 00:00:02 2008