--- Log opened Wed Nov 26 00:00:03 2008
00:01 <@sdodson> "Ya, November 25th!"
00:01 <@aestetix> Remember, remember, the 25th of november
00:01 <@Catonic> man, i forgot the dog's birthday was nov 15
00:02 < scribbles> just tell the dog its tomorrow
00:02 <@Catonic> I bet that dog's been dead 10 years.
00:02 <@sdodson> It's November 15th in dog days.
00:03 < scribbles> heh
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00:09 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Is your scooter 2 cycle?
00:09 <@Catonic> sdodson: melatonin ftw
00:12 <@sdodson> Catonic: what?
00:12 <@Catonic> it makes me dlrrp
00:12 <@Catonic> sleep
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00:17 <@sdodson> "Despite this, many of the new features appear to be things that originate from upstream, and as such, will find their way (or have found their way) to other distributions as well." THAT'S BECAUSE FEDORA WORKS WITH UPSTREAM COMMUNITIES RATHER THAN LEECHING OFF OF DEBIAN!
00:18 <@Catonic> but where di yum come from?
00:18 <+SmthingPrductive> yellowdog
00:19 <@scort> hi im on fedora
00:19 <@scort> Linux No 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 13 20:52:14 EST 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
00:20 <@sdodson> Catonic: and who maintains yum?
00:20 <@scort> i do
00:20 <@Catonic> i dunno
00:21 <@sdodson> A: Fedora.
00:21 <@Catonic> SUN!
00:21 <@scort>  Grab the Mic.mp3
00:21 <@sdodson> You see that Sun discontinued the last of their amd64 desktops?
00:22 <@Catonic> iirc they eol'd ultrasparc processors too
00:22 <@sdodson> So they've only got cool threads processors in their non pc lines?
00:23 <@Catonic> seems to be that way
00:23 <@sdodson> is cool threads a good general cpu now?
00:23 <@Catonic> seems to be
00:23 <@Catonic> you're talking 4 - 16 cores per chip
00:23 <@sdodson> afiak it was good at massively parrallel things like answering tons of requests.
00:23 <@sdodson> But each core was dog slow.
00:23 <@scort> hi i like fedora
00:24 <@Catonic> most of these things are suppose to be able to handle i/o requests like a bad mofo
00:24 <@scort> i just wish it would sexually please me
00:24 <@sdodson> Ya, I hear they make good DNS servers.
00:24 <@Catonic> unless you're running a large isp, there's no reason to waste that much horsepower
00:25 <@Catonic> servers today are insanely powerful
00:25 <@sdodson> As are my nuts.
00:28 <@sdodson> See, my nuts just KILLED the conversation.
00:29 <@scort> no
00:29 <@scort> im back
00:29 <@scort> somebody say nuts?
00:40 <@sdodson> catonic: the guy i was speaking with does 22000 queries/second.
00:41 <@sdodson> national danish telephone monopoly
00:48 <@scort> same\
00:48 <@scort> \
00:48 <@scort> excuse me whi;le i kiss the skyh9
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01:41 <@aestetix> why the fuck did gmail search decide to die right when I need it
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02:33 < BlueCopy> aestetix: moores law
02:33 < BlueCopy> blame that guy
02:33 < BlueCopy> it never should have been passed
02:33 < BlueCopy> they overturned the veto though
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03:16 <@polerin> heh
03:16 <@polerin> moores law
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06:23 <@Catonic> I like to move it move it
06:33 <@Shadow404> lawl
06:35 <@Catonic> the major of birmingham is smoking crack
06:36 <@Catonic> he just hired a 13 year old as a consultant for the city
06:36 <@Catonic> I'd like to know how he got around the state's labor road
06:37 <@Catonic> board
06:37 < TheLightCosine> consultant for what?
06:38 <@Catonic> parks
06:42 < TheLightCosine> ohhh your'e talknig about birmingham alabama
06:42 < TheLightCosine> lol
06:42 < TheLightCosine> sorry i was thinknig UK
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07:18 < Synx_hm> morning
07:28 < TheLightCosine> morning
07:28 < TheLightCosine> http://xkcd.com/327/
07:29 < TheLightCosine> I so should have named my second Daught brigid' UNION drop table Users;
07:31 < Synx_hm> hehe
07:31 < Synx_hm> well off to work
07:31 < Synx_hm> yay
07:31 < Synx_hm> i hate life
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08:10 < Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:10 <@Catonic> What's up snugglemuffins?
08:11 < Dolemite> Oh, you know, the usual.  Just getting in to work and torturing the underlings.
08:11 <@Catonic> yeah, I hear wontonjoe is looking for work as a nocling
08:11 < TheLightCosine> word dole
08:11 < Dolemite> werd
08:36 < nated0g_wrk> morning people
08:36 <@Shadow404> Catonic: we still hiring here
08:36 < nated0g_wrk> everyone ready for thanksgiving aka stuff your face in front of family day
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08:42 <@poiupoiu> nated0g_wrk, you know it
08:49 < Dolemite> I have to bake a pumpkin pie tonight, but yeah, I'm ready for it
09:04 < scribbles> I'm not ready to be in bed by 7pm so I can be at work at 3am for black friday
09:04  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
09:05  * Dolemite tasers aestetix
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09:12 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:15 <@nachoguy> why 3am on Black Friday?
09:15 <@nachoguy> how are you going to be shopping if you're at work?
09:17 <@sdodson> what what?
09:19 <@nachoguy> <scribbles> I'm not ready to be in bed by 7pm so I can be at work at 3am for black friday
09:21 < scribbles> I'm not shopping, I work in management at a retail box
09:23 <@Lissa> ew.  I do NOT envy you.
09:24 <@nachoguy> you need to come in dressed like SWAT.  Kevlar, velro'ed on pockets with mace, extendable batons, tazers, handcuffs, and a radio
09:25 <@sdodson> And a pony tail like Dog the Bounty Hunter.
09:27 <@nachoguy> Recently we had a re-org at work, and I'm now on the "SWAT team"  So I got a kick out of Standing behind 2 members of an actual SWAT team yesterday while getting breakfast
09:27 <@nachoguy> no, Swat guys (stereotypically) have very short hair
09:28 <@sdodson> Citibank has written me to inform me that my account with a $0.23 balance is now insured up to $250,000!
09:28 <@polerin> scribbles: oh god i'm sorry.  I worked toys on black friday at target
09:28 <@sdodson> polerin: many kids awake at 6am?
09:28 <@polerin> sdodson: it's not the kids.
09:28 <@polerin> it's the parents and grandparents
09:29 <@polerin> plus I wasn't there for the 6am rush, thank gods
09:29 <@polerin> I was second shift that day
09:30 < scribbles> you dont' realize how many indians live in the alpharetta area until black friday comes and there's a $379 laptop and $5.00 50pk cd's etc...
09:32 <@Lissa> they year that I saw 2 grandma's get in a fist fight over a Tickle Me Elmo...my Black Friday shopping days were over.
09:35 < Dolemite> I'm going to Staples on Friday and that's it.
09:35 < Dolemite> Last year I was able to get my wife's black friday christmas gift online, so that was easy
09:36 <@rhia> outside of emergency, i refuse to leave the house on black friday
09:37  * brimstone stands on rhia's lawn
09:37 <@rhia> brimstone: wait till friday, i can offer you leftovers
09:39 <@sdodson> Some store should pull a totally non pc move and only offer deals to black people.
09:39 < scribbles> for some odd reason, people think its okay to act the way they do in retail stores, its not your home, i'm not related to you, and if you continue talking like that I'm either going to a) punch you in the face or b) call the police or c) both
09:40 <@sdodson> i thought alpharetta was all pretentious white folk?
09:40 < scribbles> have you ever seen a pretentious white person get angry
09:40 < scribbles> they think their million dollar world is crumbling down around them because some cd is out of stock
09:41 <@rhia> alpharetta's a mix - upper Forsyth area, including Cumming - that's white
09:41 <@rhia> windward park and north?  been a while
09:42 <@polerin> scribbles: isn't that damn truth.  Worked cable in brentwood
09:43 <@rhia> scribbles: the entitled rich - just as bad as everyone but with personal lawyers on retainer - fun!
09:44 <@rhia> http://www.pinkcoyote.net/creativegrooming.html
09:45  * Lissa dances around the room with Rhia
09:45  * rhia bounces along with Lissa 
09:45 <@Lissa> how's it goin?
09:46 <@rhia> idling, rough in gear ;)
09:46 <@Lissa> hehe
09:48 <@Lissa> I'm trying to figure out why a patient with Fibromayalsia wound up with the dx code for monkeypox
09:50 <@Lissa> they're not even close in the cpt book.  or even in the same class or disease.  :/
09:50 <@rhia> dyslexic with bad handwriting?
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09:51 <@Lissa> well ....fibromyalgia is 729.1.  monkeypox is 057.8
09:51 < Peaches84> morning lissa
09:51 <@Lissa> mornin peaches
09:51 < Peaches84> morning rhia
09:52 < Peaches84> how are you this morning
09:52 <@Lissa> peaches: have you ever been a waiter?
09:52 <@rhia> hIya, Peaches84
09:52 < Peaches84> yep sure have
09:52 < Peaches84> a few times
09:52 <@Lissa> have you worked at Game Crazy?
09:52 < Peaches84> Inope
09:52 < Peaches84> nope
09:52 < Peaches84> sorry
09:52 <@Lissa> k...
09:52 < Peaches84> but i am crazy lol jk
09:52 <@Lissa> it's okay.  just trying to figure out if I know you
09:53 < Peaches84> i have waited tables at applebee's in bellvue and also i have worked as a photo manager at eckerds in bellvue and i have waited tables at cousers off nolensville rd and i did makeup for glamour shots and i worked for costco thru the holidays last year
09:54 <@Lissa> not to mention the other fabulous things I'm sure you've done.  I'll either figure it out or I'll just meet you.
09:54  * Lissa shrugs
09:54 < Peaches84> now a friend of mine worked at game crazy in  off old hickory
09:54 <@Lissa> red hair?
09:55 <@Lissa> kinda short
09:55 < Peaches84> yeah and i have done drag for about 5 years yeah his  name is thomas
09:55 <@Lissa> Thomas
09:55 <@Lissa> :)
09:55 <@Lissa> i know him
09:55 < Peaches84> anastaciabever  housin
09:55 <@Lissa> that's why I was asking if you worked at Game Crazy
09:55 < Peaches84> no thats not me lol
09:55 <@Lissa> hehe
09:55 < Peaches84> do you have myspace
09:56 < Peaches84> or facebook
09:56 < Peaches84> i am corys myspace
09:56 < Peaches84> and this is my myspace   http://www.myspace.com/terylb24
09:57 <@Lissa> i'll have to look at it when I get home...but, I'll do it.
09:58 <@Lissa> Didnt
09:58 <@Lissa> erm
09:58 <@Lissa> let me try that again
09:58 <@Lissa> Didn't Thomas used to work at Applebees?
09:58 <@Lissa> or was that Ruby Tuesdays
09:59 < Peaches84> not sure
09:59 < Peaches84> i think ruby
09:59 < Peaches84> not really sure
10:01 <@Lissa> heh
10:02 < Peaches84> so what u doing for thanksgiving
10:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Thanksgiving with Dustin?
10:07 <@Catonic_lp> Shadow404: we're talking about wontonjoe here...
10:07 <@Catonic_lp> he wouldn't leave huntsville if the city was on fire
10:08 <@Shadow404> haha, true
10:08 <@Shadow404> you never truly leave alllerrBAma
10:08  * Shadow404 pokes ladymerlin 
10:09  * ladymerlin smacks Shadow404 
10:10 < Peaches84> later i am going to work
10:11 <@Shadow404> aww, how nice
10:16 <@Lissa> Peaches: we're probably going to do some charity stuff tomorrow morning....inlaws house tomorrow night and Friday I'm going to my moms to help her put up her christmas stuff and watch cheesy christmas movies
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10:33 <@Neoteric> ~weather 20036
10:34 <@aestetix> wow someone at my company actually used yammer
10:34 <@aestetix> which, for the record, is the most worthless app ever created. They must give good techcrunch blowjobs
10:36 <@Neoteric> aestetix: we use yammer @ sunlight. it keeps telling me that i forgot to yammer yesterday
10:36 < vyrus001> lol
10:37 <@aestetix> Ok. Twitter is a piece of shit. Yammer ripped off twitter, completely.
10:37 <@aestetix> Which means that yammer isn't even good enough to be called a piece of shit.
10:37 <@aestetix> That's pretty pathetic.
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10:38 <@aestetix> The only reason I can see justifying using yammer is that a bullshit management decision mandates it.
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10:46 <@aestetix> God damnit.
10:46  * aestetix is at the airport.
10:46 <@aestetix> Why does having an OS running that is not windows or mac necessitate a security guard to stand right behind me to make sure I'm not up to something?
10:47 <@Shadow404> cause your a dangerous looking "older" person
10:47  * brimstone waves to the security guard
10:48 <@Shadow404> HELLO MR. SECURITY GUARD, i think he needs a closer inspection
10:48 <@aestetix> Maybe I look suspicious because I got an hour of sleep, have been flying around for two days, and am getting really pissed off at automake/autoconf
10:48 <@aestetix> Because, you know, erlang wasn't enough.
10:49 <@Shadow404> sounds like TERRORIST terminology
10:49 <@Shadow404> SECURITY
10:49 <@nachoguy> aestetix, what're you doing with erlang?
10:49 <@aestetix> nachoguy: killing myself
10:49  * Corydon76-dig performs a strip search on Shadow404 
10:49 <@Shadow404> err
10:50  * Shadow404 runs away
10:51 < TheLightCosine> the nashville airport has terminals with rdp running on insecure wireless heh
10:51 < TheLightCosine> great fun when i was ehading back to pa from my job itnerview earlier this year
10:51 < zadeaux> at one point in time i full security pass to walk all over that airport.. was on a window washing work crew
10:51 < TheLightCosine> it's a pretty shitty airport
10:51 < zadeaux> i use "that" loosly referencing atlanta
10:52 < TheLightCosine> i came down from BWI, they even had little tables with built in pwoer outlets for laptops by each gate
10:52 < TheLightCosine> THAT was awesome
10:52 < TheLightCosine> althoguh i don't egt why more airports can't build smoking lounges
10:52 < TheLightCosine> you just need a good ventilation system and ensure it is clsoed off
10:53 < zadeaux> I didn't mind BWI so much, now dallas and DC on the other hand..
10:53 <@aestetix> The worst airport, by far, is STL
10:54 < zadeaux> i haven't done much in that area.. never been through there
10:55 <@Lissa> I hate Dallas
10:56 <@Lissa> and LaGuardia
10:56 <@aestetix> So.... in ironic news
10:56 <@Lissa> Heathrow was bad too
10:56 <@aestetix> A friend in SF suggested using the RICO Act to attack religious conservatives.
10:56 <@aestetix> Specifically regarding Prop 8
10:57 <@aestetix> I think it's a great idea.
10:57 <@Shadow404> Lissa: agree on the heathrow and dallas airports
10:58 <@Shadow404> bad design
10:58  * Lissa tries to figure out how the mafia relates
10:58 <@aestetix> Lissa: it's simple. They are using their bullshit religion fanaticism to try and control the government.
10:58 <@aestetix> RICO is meant to target organized crime, right?
10:59 <@Lissa> yes.
10:59 <@aestetix> So, if you can argue that the religious reich is using its influence to commit organized crime...
10:59 <@aestetix> It's a stretch, but there's a chance it could work :p
11:00 <@Lissa> You have to be able to prove it's the evangelicals.  and....you'd have to prove that Prop 8 is considred a crime
11:00 <@Lissa> considered
11:00 <@Lissa> I have a feeling the Supreme Court will overturn it in February...and I'll continue to write letters and make phone calls to do my part to make sure that happens.
11:01 <@aestetix> God, I hope it doesn't move past California.
11:01 <@Lissa> it will
11:01 <@aestetix> That is bad for the same reason Roe V Wade is bad.
11:02 <@Lissa> it's the whole Guns, God and Gays thing.  As long as 51% of the country consider themselves born again Christians...the other 49% will have to make sure they stop breeding.
11:02 <@polerin> aestetix: the problem is they are not neccisarily committing a crime
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Lissa: I think it's only about 30%
11:02  * Lissa nods
11:02 <@Lissa> i was being exageratory
11:02 <@aestetix> polerin: I know. That's why I said it was a stretch :)
11:03 <@Lissa> now...if an evangelical hits me because I'm gay...I am SO pressing charges.
11:03 <@aestetix> Born Again Christian almost always translates into "I couldn't handle the stress of life and I'm choosing religion as a cop-out"
11:03 <@rhia> Prop8 was Mormon, not evangelical/fundie
11:03 <@Lissa> and if they shoot me, they better be a freaking great shot....because when I get up, I'm going to take their gun away and hit them with it
11:04 <@Lissa> Prop8 was not 100% mormon.
11:04 <@rhia> ya know, the "Jesus was a polygamist who married his mom" "church"
11:04 <@aestetix> rhia: and this counters the RICO argument how? :)
11:04 <@aestetix> We're constantly looking for ways to make life harder for the Mormons.
11:04 <@rhia> yeah, i know, but +50% of the funding was from the land of magick underwear
11:05  * Lissa nods
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> When you consider that Jesus spent his entire adult life running around with 12 other guys... same sex polygamist, perhaps
11:05 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: I bet Jesus threw some badass parties.
11:05 <@Lissa> and the people he loved the most were men.
11:06 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: book of Mormon is  .... a little different <g> from the Bible
11:06 < vyrus001> aestetix: yo... u know where milosh has been as of late? hasnt answerd my emails about stayin with him at 25c3
11:06 <@aestetix> The book of mormon.... cat that fucker, and grep for "and it came to pass"
11:06 <@Corydon76-dig> There is a passage in the Bible about Jesus getting a blowjob, though
11:06 <@aestetix> vyrus001: I can tell you right now it will be ok.
11:06 <@aestetix> If it's not, I will remove all my work from the deployment :)
11:06 < vyrus001> heh so i should just worry about getting to berlin is what your telling me ;)
11:06 < vyrus001> LOL
11:07 <@aestetix> yes
11:07 < vyrus001> lets hope it dosent come to that ;)
11:07 <@aestetix> milosch gets a *ton* of emails.
11:07 < vyrus001> yea i bet
11:07 < vyrus001> thats why ive been trying not to bug him
11:07 < vyrus001> i figure his inbox is literaly on fire at the moment
11:07 <@aestetix> Hell, he only answers like 30% of what I send him. :p
11:07 < vyrus001> :D
11:08 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: where?
11:08 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: you know the passage about the hooker washing Jesus feet with her tears and drying them with her tears?
11:09 <@aestetix> Yes....
11:09 <@Corydon76-dig> drying them with her hair, rather
11:09 <@aestetix> The passage which lead to the foot washing ritual, iirc
11:09 <@Corydon76-dig> In Hebrew, there is no word for "penis", so they substitute "feet" when they mean "penis"
11:09 <@aestetix> (because a good christian imitates everything jesus did...)
11:09 <@aestetix> Are jewish penises little or something?
11:11 <@aestetix> vyrus001: honestly, finding crash space for CCC will not be hard.
11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> So Mary Magdalene gave Jesus a blowjob
11:11 <@aestetix> The germans take very kindly on americans.
11:11 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: so how do they describe circumcision w/o using penis?
11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: Dunno
11:11 <@rhia> aside from the biblical reference of "foreskin"
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: there's another passage earlier in the Bible, too, that makes this more clear
11:12 <@aestetix> Hmm. My plane boards in ten minutes.
11:12 <@aestetix> It better hurry up and get here.
11:13 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: where'd you get this from?
11:15 < zadeaux> lol
11:15 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: which part?
11:16 <@rhia> the no word for penis so washing feet == blowjob part
11:17 <@Corydon76-dig> The no word for penis in ancient Hebrew is from a class I took at the university
11:21 <@rhia> ahhh
11:21 <@rhia> interesting class =)
11:23 <@polerin> that assumes that section of the bible was written in hebrew.  I thought large swaths of the bible was written in greek and a couple other languages
11:23 <@aestetix> Aramaic? (sp?)
11:23 <@polerin> that being one of them yes
11:24 <@Lissa> swahili
11:24 <@Lissa> latin
11:24 <@polerin> lol
11:24 <@Lissa> sumerian
11:24 <@Lissa> akkadian
11:24 <@aestetix> I haven't done much bible study lately.
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11:25 <@Lissa> but mostly Aramaic, Hebrew, and Koine Greek
11:26 <@Lissa> most recently; however, pig latin
11:26 <@polerin> so assuming feet washing == blowjob simply because a linguistic quirk in one language is jumping the gun a bit
11:27 <@polerin> ;)
11:27 <@Lissa> irstFay odGay ademay eavenhay &ay earthway, eThay earthway asway ithoutway ormfay andway oidvay, andway arknessday asway uponway ethay acefay ofway ethay eepday ...
11:27 <@Lissa> or something close to that
11:28 <@aestetix> Andyay Ohsay ityay amecay otay asspay
11:28 <@aestetix> or did I just do it wrong
11:29 <@Lissa> you did it wrong
11:29 <@Lissa> and quotedthe wrong part
11:29 <@Lissa> learn genesis, then use pig latin
11:29  * Lissa sighs
11:29 <@aestetix> I was quoting the book of mormon
11:29 <@Lissa> ew.
11:30 <@aestetix> "And so it came to pass"
11:30 <@Lissa> i've never taken the time to read it.
11:30 <@Lissa> i think they were talking about a kidney stone there
11:30 <@Lissa> god had kidney stones.
11:30 <@Lissa> and then he said, this too shall pass
11:30 < TheLightCosine> afterall the universe is just god's bowel movement
11:30  * Lissa nods
11:30 <@aestetix> sweet, plane is finally here
11:31 <@Lissa> have fun
11:32 < zadeaux> have fun storming the castle!
11:34 <@polerin> Do you think it'll work?
11:34 <@Dementia> Lissa: this review of the Twilight books pointing out all the Mormon references is pretty amusing, IMO. http://stoney321.livejournal.com/317176.html
11:35 <@Dementia> polerin: it'd take a miracle
11:35  * polerin hugs dem
11:35 <@polerin> there are times I love this group ;p
11:36 <@Dementia> heh
11:38 <@Lissa> haha
11:38 <@Lissa> that's funny
11:39 <@Dementia> I lol'd
11:40 <@Lissa> well..i read all the books..except the latest one
11:40 <@Lissa> so, it's really funny since I actually took the time to read them
11:40 <@Lissa> especially the "I DON'T SPARKLE!" part.
11:41 <@polerin> I wouldn't doubt theres a lot of the same in all of OSC's books
11:41 <@polerin> haven't bothered to look
11:41  * Lissa pokes erin
11:42 <@polerin> mmmm?
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11:45 <@Lissa> ARGH.
11:45 <@Lissa> what is with the monkey pox.
11:45  * Lissa sighs
11:46 <@Lissa> I think I have a monkeypox happy charge nurse
11:46 <@remoford> monkeypox?
11:46 <@polerin> either that or theres and outbreak
11:46 <@polerin> MUAHAHA
11:46 <@polerin> Call the CDC!
11:46 <@polerin> err
11:47 <@remoford> no call the russians
11:47 <@remoford> they are always looking for new pox strains
11:47 <@polerin> the CDC other than the one I'm a part of.  We can't help you with contagious stuff.
11:54 <@Lissa> heh
11:54 <@Lissa> these patient's are going to a specialist that only handles fibromyalgia
11:54 <@Lissa> there should be NO monkeypox
11:54 <@Lissa> I've torn their medical records apart to make sure.
11:54 <@Catonic_lp> im hungry.
11:54 <@Lissa> and no monkeypox.
11:54  * Lissa gives catonic monkeypox to munch on
11:55 <@Catonic_lp> yay! monkeypox!
11:55  * Catonic_lp mutates monkeypox into AIDS-II
11:55 <@Lissa> :(
11:59 <@Evilpig> aids 2:  revenge of the aids?
12:02 <@polerin> Lissa: sounds like someone needs a good smacking
12:02 <@Evilpig> aids 3:  aids in paradise?  or is that 4?
12:03 <@polerin> actually that would be AIDS now, and really, aids' jokes?
12:03 <@polerin> :P
12:04 <@Evilpig> would you prefer dead baby jokes?  how bout tsunami victims jokes?
12:05 < nated0g_wrk> dead baby jokes are funny!
12:05 <@polerin> only because they taste like chicken.
12:06 < nated0g_wrk> my fav one is so hated its funny tho
12:09 <@Corydon76-dig> SFW... http://www.boingboing.net/2008/11/24/in-2007-pundits-scof.html
12:10 <@Catonic_lp> http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/21/128717728000092373.jpg
12:11  * Lissa grumbles about pivot tables
12:14 <@polerin> heh
12:18 <@Dagmar> Catonic: That was pretty much what I said when I first saw him do the scene with the pipe
12:19 <@Catonic_lp> what movie?
12:19 <@Dagmar> WTF movie
12:19 <@Dagmar> It's from his show
12:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Kind of silly, since Colbert is probably doing it intentionally
12:22 <@Dagmar> It might eventually culminate in him "taking on" the Church of the Subgenius
12:26 <@rhia> actually, he was imitating the old Bing Crosby, Andy Williams, Perry Como pre-smoking-ban holiday specials where santa &/or good ol' dad had a pipe
12:28 <@rhia> like Ward Cleaver, etc
12:31 <@Dagmar> So does Bob.
12:31 <@Catonic_lp> oh
12:31 <@Catonic_lp> sorry i forgot what I posted
12:33 <@Catonic_lp> lmfao... japanese ronald mcdonald
12:37 <@Catonic_lp> http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-dog-pictures-head-skirt.jpg
12:38 <@Catonic_lp> I bet she jumped about a foot.
12:39 <@scort> np: VNV Nation - Forsaken - Praise the Fallen - 4:49
12:40 <@sdodson> stfu
12:40 <@Shadow404> vnv rocks
12:43 <@scort> hi my name is sdodson and im starting to talk like scort all tourettes like
12:44 <@Shadow404> heh
12:47 <@brimstone> hi scort
12:47 <@scort> hey brimstone whats up
12:51 <@brimstone> just breaking servers
12:51 <@Dagmar> A cat who takes lazy to new lengths http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/24/everyone-loves-a-slinky-kitteh/
12:51 <@brimstone> the usual wednesday
12:51 <@scort> seen it
12:51 <@rhia> Dagmar: niphead kitty
12:54 <@Shadow404> that must feel so good
12:54 <@Dagmar> rhis: You've seen cats rub up against table legs
12:54 <@Dagmar> That's what he's doin'.
12:54 <@Shadow404> shes doing
12:54 <@Dagmar> He's just too lazy to do it upright when gravity will do most of the work for him.
12:54 <@Shadow404> shes just to lazy
12:54 <@scort> why the hell do they rub on shit anyways Dagmar
12:55 <@Shadow404> leaves scent marks and fells good
12:55 <@Shadow404> like a massage
12:55 <@Dagmar> Shadow404++
12:55 <@scort> k brb petting pussy
12:55 <@Shadow404> thats what your mom does when she rubs my penis scort
12:55 <@scort> does she also purr?
12:55 <@Shadow404> moans is more likeit
12:56 <@scort> zing
12:56 <@scort> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Q1-jtR3kL.jpg what the fuck is this faggotry
12:57 <@Lissa> ...
12:57 < scribbles> that shits not even allowed in gaming competitions
12:57 <@Evilpig> scort: I know some people that use those for fps
12:57 <@scort> it's a mouse?
12:57 <@Evilpig> no
12:57 <@Evilpig> asdw
12:57 <@scort> wtf is it
12:59 <@Dagmar> scribbles: Since when are they not allowed
12:59 <@Dagmar> It's just a freakin' game pad
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13:05 <@scort> http://www.yuppiepunk.org/2007/07/the-10-most-unfortunately-named-people-on-the-internets.html
13:06 <@sdodson> I hate nostromo hosers
13:10 < scribbles> Dagmar: most professional setups like CPL or something of the sort require kb/mouse only
13:10 < scribbles> specialty input devices are rarely allowed
13:12 <@scort> cuz people load up hax in that?
13:13 <@Evilpig> that isn't really a specialty device.  it's just a partial keyboard
13:13 <@scort> it's not a full key board or mouse, i think that would be called speciality
13:16 <@Dagmar> scribbles: I'm pretty sure that's not the majority case
13:17 <@rhia> http://failblog.org/2008/11/26/science-fail-3/    ah, the wonders of our education system
13:20 < Dolemite> oh, my
13:21 <@Shadow404> heh, 4 head hunter calls today
13:21 < Dolemite> reminds me of when I was in 3rd grade and asked if everybody in China jumped at the same time could it knock the earth off of its axis
13:21 <@Shadow404> wtf, would they call right before the holiday
13:22 <@rhia> Shadow404: send some Drag0n's way
13:26 <@Shadow404> heh, well i got to  interviews line up for monday
13:26 <@Shadow404> to of the other offfers were helpdesk crap
13:27 <@Shadow404> *two
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13:28 <@Shadow404> thats why my a:/ doesnt work anyore
13:28 <@Dolemite> yes, too much mouseterbating going on
13:29 <@Shadow404> is sperm conductive? i would think so if people say its salty?
13:34 <@scort> SGI relicenses OpenGL: "A huge gift to the free software community"
13:35 <@scort> opengl=oss
13:38 <@scort> http://www.linux.com/feature/148339
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13:45  * Catonic steals the lulz
13:47 < nated0g_wrk> no computer for 4 days after tonight
13:47 <@scort> same
13:47  * scort rehashes
13:48 < nated0g_wrk> can you buy WOW cd keys from blizzard?
13:48 <@Dagmar> Yes
13:48 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : What, you mean you've never noticed it being salty?
13:48 < nated0g_wrk> is it same price of the game at bestbuy ?
13:48 <@Dagmar> Unless BestBuy is having some kind of sale, which is unlikely.
13:48 <@Dolemite> nated0g_wrk : Yep
13:49 < nated0g_wrk> well i can buy the warchest at walmart for 30
13:49 < nated0g_wrk> which is classic and the second one
13:49 <@Dolemite> That's what I did to get started
13:49 < nated0g_wrk> im on the trial now with a full download that Evilpig gave me a link to
13:49 <@Dolemite> But that was a mere 2-3 months ago
13:49 < nated0g_wrk> im still on my 10 day trial
13:49 <@Dolemite> That slut!  He wants the zhevra mount to add to his collection.
13:49 <@polerin> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/us/26florida.html
13:50 < Synx_hm> ugh there needs to be an easy way to move over my gallery2 to flickr
13:52 <@rhia> polerin: saw that - yay
13:53 <@polerin> Synx_hm: hmm... shouldn't be too difficult to script really, just a post with session information right?
13:53 < Synx_hm> there was a gallery2flickr plugin for gallery2 but it seems broken
13:54 <@polerin> that's because gallery2 blows
13:54 < Synx_hm> thats why i am dumping it for flickr
13:55 < Synx_hm> i really love running stuff on my own domain from my host, but gallery is killing me
13:55 < Synx_hm> the development is going nowhere
13:55 <@polerin> I've been wanting to build something to replace it, but Can't talk about that right now ;P
13:55 <@Catonic> kaminsky dumped gallery2 for dns
13:55 <@Catonic> dns dns dns
13:55 < Synx_hm> shrug
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13:56 <@polerin> I meen really, the need for a popular webapp that works without a database connection is pretty slim at this point
13:57 <@polerin> most hosts that people who can run php on their host have access to a db
13:57 < nated0g_wrk> ok found out how to upgrade. will do it when i get back into town
13:58 < Synx_hm> polerin: my main problem aside from the stagnate development is dreamhosts horribly slow mysql setup, my gallery install runs like ass
13:59 <@polerin> I've not has issues with the speed
13:59 <@polerin> gallery doesn't store the photos in the db itself does it?
13:59 < Synx_hm> well its a DreamHost local issues not necessary gallery's fault
13:59 <@Dolemite> no
13:59 <@polerin> Synx_hm: haven't used dreamhosts's sql recently, and never heavily, but I never had that big of an issue with speed
14:00 <@Catonic> I am giving thanks for fish tacos.
14:01 < Synx_hm> any got a good link for a good usable usb drive linux, pref. ubuntu
14:03 <@Catonic> so we re-write gallery2 in perl and call it moveablepix
14:04 < Synx_hm> oh shit 8.10 has a built in usb installer in the system -> admin menu
14:04 < Synx_hm> w00t
14:08 < Synx_hm> wonder if it will fit on a 128mb jump drive
14:09 <@brimstone> you could get the installer on a 128...
14:09 <@brimstone> maybe a little bit of a home directory
14:09 < Synx_hm> i just want an install environment mostly
14:09 < Synx_hm> nothing that retains changes
14:09 <@brimstone> something that you can use to install ubuntu?
14:10 < Synx_hm> i just dont feel like bruning a cd to put grub back on my laptop so i can get back into my ubuntu install on it
14:10 <@brimstone> it's totally easy to stuff the pxe installer onto a usb stick
14:10 <@sdodson> grumble grumble, interest rates dropped .5% in the 3 days since I signed my loan
14:11 < Synx_hm> brimstone: pxe?
14:11 < Synx_hm> brimstone: i thought pxe was some network boot type shit
14:11 <@brimstone> yeah, hpa is my hero
14:11 <@brimstone> that's the thing, pxe just delivers a kernel and initrd to the box
14:11 <@brimstone> usb can do the same thing
14:12 <@brimstone> the system thinks it pxebooted, but it actually booted off usb
14:12 < Synx_hm> ahh
14:12 < Synx_hm> cool
14:12 < Synx_hm> hrm i wonder if i can remember where my root is to boot off
14:12 < Synx_hm> :(
14:13 <@brimstone> you could even do that, boot your system off the usb, with the root being your harddrive
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14:13 < Synx_hm> brimstone: i think thats what ill have to do to get grub to install correctly no?
14:14 <@brimstone> nah, you could use the installer then just jump over to another console and fix grub
14:15 <@brimstone> or anything that allows you to chroot to your drive to fix it
14:15 <@brimstone> or you could just boot your drive, like you said
14:15 < Synx_hm> ahh thats it
14:15 < Synx_hm> id have to chroot in
14:15 <@brimstone> several different ways
14:15 < Synx_hm> ya
14:15 <@brimstone> you just need to put the stage_1 into the mbr
14:15 < Synx_hm> yar
14:15 <@brimstone> and tell it where stage_1.5 lives
14:16 <@Dagmar> ugh grub
14:16 < Synx_hm> brim, so i cant make up my mind, i am toying with an asipre one now, but i just cannot decide, 10in seems more usable somehow and the 1000h aint bad
14:16 < Synx_hm> nor can i decide between SSD or HDD
14:17 <@scort> get SDD
14:17 <@Dagmar> Synx_hm: That should actually be an easy decision
14:17 <@brimstone> i really like telling my 701 to suspend and then stuffing it into a pocket without fear of headcrash
14:17 <@brimstone> or moving while using it
14:17 <@Dagmar> Which is more important to you: cost, storage capacity, or "safety from dropping"
14:18 < Synx_hm> ya i really want SSD but aspire one doesn't have 1gb and SSD in a good size nor the battery life the 901 has
14:18 <@Dagmar> HDD is cheaper and larger, but SDD isn't going to head crash if you slip up and bounce the thing a little
14:18 < Synx_hm> the eeepc901 is perfect except for the keyboard
14:23 <@polerin> I really would love an eeepc
14:23 <@brimstone> i'll see ya my 701
14:23 <@brimstone> *sell
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14:24 <@oddball> the 8.9" screen works perfectly well for me.
14:24 <@Dagmar> 901 seems to eb the first one with sane battery life
14:25 < Synx_hm> ya
14:25 < Synx_hm> honestly though they keyboard is harsh
14:25 <@Dagmar> Wow Mumbai is having serious problems
14:25 < Synx_hm> other than that its perfect, touch pad multi touch, good battery, 20gb ssd, the atom, 1gb ddr2
14:25 <@Dagmar> Major shit going down there
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14:32 < Synx_hm_> ugh
14:32 <@Shadow404> i lawled
14:32 < Synx_hm_> what'd i miss
14:33 <@Shadow404> 76 dead in mumbai attacks
14:34 < Synx_hm_> :(
14:34 <@Shadow404> us state dept. reports all us diplomats safe
14:34 <@Shadow404> sigh, we arent even going to send our condolences to the innocent, geez
14:34 <@Evilpig> drop nuke.  conflict over.  new U.S. territory
14:35 <@Shadow404> lawl, new oil reserves
14:35 < Synx_hm_> i knew you all hated me
14:35 <@Shadow404> why?
14:36 < Synx_hm_> military?
14:36 <@scort> hi Synx_hm
14:36 <@Shadow404> heh, why the fuck are we going to get involved/
14:36 <@Evilpig> Synx_hm_: just press the giant red button and bam.  done.  you can get back in bed
14:36 < Synx_hm_> hehe
14:37 < Synx_hm_> wtf is the diff between the aspire one AOA and AAO i can find no explination
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14:40 <@polerin> brimstone: hmm
14:40 <@polerin> brimstone: how much do you want for it?
14:41 <@scort> one MILLION dollars
14:41 <@brimstone> $300
14:41 <@brimstone> I-MOD helped me open it up and solder another usb port inside it
14:41 <@brimstone> so it's got 4GB internall, 4GB usb and 4GB SDHC
14:42 <@scort> hax
14:42 < Synx_hm_> you selling the 701?
14:42 < Synx_hm_> cool
14:42 < Synx_hm_> i am missing have the conv. here my connection sucks today
14:42 <@scort> have?
14:42 < Synx_hm_> half
14:42 <@polerin> brimstone: can't afford it, sorry
14:42 < Synx_hm_> hehe
14:43 <@scort> who wants to buy my crap?!?!
14:43 <@scort> i gotta make rent next month
14:43 < Synx_hm_> ive got a bunch of car parts someone can buy
14:43 < Synx_hm_> anyone need a digital boost and egt gauge
14:44 <@Evilpig> scort: do you have any cow crap?  I have a few brown spots.
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14:55 < Synx_hm_> damn, i am watching a friends cat
14:56 < Synx_hm_> she fucking hates people
14:56 < Synx_hm_> wont even let me give her a treat
14:56 <@nachoguy> and people hate fucking her, I'm sure
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15:06 <@rhia> polerin: http://www.jpgmag.com/photos/349763  since you like photography ....
15:07 < Synx_hm_> sudo cat /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin > /dev/sdc
15:07 < Synx_hm_> bash: /dev/sdc: Permission denied
15:07 <@rhia> that expression ....
15:07 < Synx_hm_> wtf
15:07 <@Dolemite> sudo make me a sandwich
15:07 <@rhia> Synx_hm_: not enough magic beans
15:07 < Synx_hm_> what am i doing thats stupid?
15:07 <@scort> no u sudo Dolemite
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15:10 < Synx_hm> i dont understand why that doesn't work
15:11 <@scort> maybe try dd?
15:11 < Synx_hm> ya i guess
15:11 < Synx_hm> where does the mbr start
15:12 < Synx_hm> duh
15:12 < Synx_hm> hehe
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15:12 < Synx_hm> 1-446 correct?
15:13 <@scort> 1?
15:13 < Synx_hm> ya i am a dumb ass
15:14 <@Dagmar> That's actually documented in Wikipedia, man
15:17 < Synx_hm> :(
15:24 < Synx_hm> yay got damnsmall linux on a 128mb jumpdrive
15:24 <@scort> yay
15:24 < Synx_hm> yay
15:24 <@scort> hi how do io do that
15:25 < Synx_hm> oh hi u 2
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15:27 <@scort> ?
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15:40 < Synx_hm> ok wtf
15:40 < Synx_hm> i just lost my raid
15:41 < zadeaux> whoooppssss
15:42 < Synx_hm> ya this is no good
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15:43 < Synx_hm> wtf its back
15:43 < zadeaux> I think i'd rather lose my pants vs. losing my raid.. depends though
15:43 < Synx_hm> yikes that had me puckered
15:43 <@brimstone> there's no fsck for pants though :(
15:43 < Synx_hm> without pants fscking is a bit more simple though
15:44 <@Drag0n> but there is a chkdk for pants
15:44 <@scort> hahaha puckered
15:44 <@scort> what was puckered?
15:45 < Synx_hm> what do you think ;)
15:47 <@Dagmar> You can easily get more pants.
15:47 <@Dagmar> This is because there is no RAID for pants.
15:48 <@Dagmar> A Redundant Array of Inexpensive/Independent Pants would be RAIP and no means no.
15:48 <@brimstone> there should be
15:48 < Synx_hm> man i thought my laptop touchpad was going out, turns out its the settings i am using in x that suck
15:48 < Synx_hm> in windows its fine
15:48 <@scort> same
15:48 <@scort> ubooboo messings things up
15:48 < Synx_hm> hehe
15:49 < Synx_hm> i was trying to get two finger scrolling to work, maybe thats when i fucked it up
15:49 < Synx_hm> i figured it was that i spilt beer all over it though
15:49 <@scort> copyright apple
15:49 < Synx_hm> the synaptic drivers in linux have amazing stuff that you cant do in windows
15:50 <@sdodson> LIKE WHAT !?
15:50 < Synx_hm> like two finger scrolling and some support three finger gestures
15:50 <@Dagmar> Come on
15:50 <@brimstone> clap ya hands!
15:50 <@Dagmar> You only need one finger gestures for Windows.
15:50 <@sdodson> stomp yo feet
15:50 <@scort> how
15:50 <@Dagmar> ...and only one particular one-fingered gesture, at that.
15:51 <@Dagmar> ..|.,
15:51 <@scort> middle finger?
15:51 <@scort> man how do you do that!!!! that's aweoms
15:51 <@scort> awesome*
15:52 <@Dagmar> l33t 4$CiI sK1lLZ
15:52 <@Dagmar> *facepalm*
15:52 < Synx_hm> hehe
15:52 <@sdodson> Is that what he does when he realizes he's nothing but a joke to us?
15:53 < Synx_hm> you guys always manage to bring a little sunshine to my day
15:53 <@scort> Synx_hm, dont make me rip you a new one
15:53 <@Dagmar> Damn this shit in Mumbai just keeps getting worse and worse
15:53 <@Dagmar> Expect a positively pornographic amount of violence on the 6 o'clock news
15:53 < Synx_hm> i go make the poopy now
15:53 <@sdodson> what happened?
15:54 <@Dagmar> "Massive Explosion Reported At Taj Hotel".  "78 people killed"  "Two hotels and a restaurant targeted"  "Witnesses report gunmen asking if people had US or UK passports"
15:54 <@Dagmar> "Military now attempting to enter hotel" etc etc
15:54 <@Dagmar> There's a corner of the Taj burning unchecked right now
15:55 <@brimstone> heh, read that as "Hillary now attempting to enter hotel"
15:55 <@Dagmar> "Gunmen still in Taj and Oberoi hotels"
15:55 <@Dagmar> Yeah check CNN's top page now
15:55 <@Dagmar> Nine places attacked.
15:55 <@Dagmar> Hostages taken for sure
15:56 <@scort> panic
15:57 <@Dagmar> Serious, serious shit goin' down over there.
15:57 <@Dagmar> CNN has a live flash stream you can watch
15:57 <@scort> and then i ask myself "where the hell is that place"
15:57 <@scort> "and do i  care"
15:57 <@Dagmar> If it hassles you about the octothorpe player or whatever and you're not on Windows, look int he lower right corner of that browser pane and you can go back to the originall flash-only page
15:58 <@Dagmar> scort: Mumbai, India
15:58 <@Dagmar> It's not some little market town
15:58 <@scort> ohh india
15:58 <@Dagmar> That's a major freakin' city over there
15:58 <@scort> call the swat team
15:59 <@Dagmar> They skipped over that step and went straight to bringing in the Army
15:59 <@scort> are they owning yet?
16:00 <@Dagmar> They're already there
16:00 <@scort> hostage apprehended yet?
16:00 <@scort> er
16:00 <@scort> suspect
16:00 <@scort> s
16:00 <@Dagmar> Looks like the terrorists may have gotten the first batch of commandos they sent in
16:00 <@scort> lol
16:00 <@scort> pwnd
16:02 <@Dagmar> I don't think you understand.
16:02 <@scort> i dont
16:02 <@scort> please elaborate on this issue.
16:02 <@Dagmar> McBush's people are going to be going overdrive to whip people into a frenzy of "fuck your rights, there's TERRURISTS!"
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16:03 <@Dagmar> NewYork was already on alert because of some intel from the FBI that has apparently turned out to be bogus
16:04 <@scort> bogus info from fbi
16:04 <@Dagmar> ...or misinformation from the CIA
16:04 <@scort> so we should panic?
16:04 <@Dagmar> No.
16:05 <@scort> is bush gonna send troops?
16:06 <@Dagmar> No, but you can be sure he'll be bringing up the whole national security thing and the "we need more power to disappear people"
16:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: you seriously think a lame duck will do that now?
16:10 <@sdodson> You lost me at think.
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16:11 <@Dagmar> Damn binding
16:11 <@Dagmar> Yes I would expect he'd still try something
16:11 <@Dagmar> The only way they reps are getting power back anytime in the next 10 years is to make the dems look bad
16:11 <@Dagmar> ...so the bigger the mess they make, the better for them.
16:11 <@Dagmar> 'cuz for the next several years, they're just going to say "The dems were in control.  Blame them."
16:14 <@sdodson> The thoughts of an irrational mind are so interesting.
16:14 <@scort> no u
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16:29 <@scort> asl maverickbna
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16:30 <@ShadowHntr> 25/please/not where you're at
16:30 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
16:31 <@scort> are you male?
16:31 <@ShadowHntr> yes...
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16:42 <@ShadowHntr> sup tcstool
16:42 <@tcstool> hey not much man how about you
16:43 <@ShadowHntr> just chillin'
16:43 <@ShadowHntr> starting to get my work credentials worked out
16:43 <@ShadowHntr> *maybe* i'll be trained on AIX and start working third shift by christmas.
16:43 <@tcstool> fun stuff
16:44 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps
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17:38 <@Catonic_lp> gonna be ok... da da do do...
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17:43 <@Catonic_lp> dead peopl
17:43 <@nachoguy> yeah, just killing time until I get to leave
17:43 <@Catonic_lp> yay!
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17:57 <@nachoguy> I'm heading out, everyone have a good thanksgiving
17:57 <@brimstone> you too nachoguy
18:06 <@buu> nachoguy: !
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19:30 <@scort> hi my name is james hetfield and im a douche bag
19:30 <@scort> http://i35.tinypic.com/24324aq.jpg
19:34 <@sasquatc4> hah, dfb campaign against apple for the hdcp crap, of course they dont know its not as simple as just bitching at apple about it
19:34 <@Dagmar> It's as simple as using component output, if you have it
19:35 <@sasquatc4> well yea, but only if get an hdfury or similar device, and those are pretty grey area, surprised they havent shut them down since they have been out a while
19:36 <@Dagmar> Not the HD Fury.  That's not "grey area", that's just plain fucking illegal.
19:36 <@Dagmar> The HD-PVR, on the other hand, will take any component output and turn it into h264
19:36 <@Dagmar> The HD-PVR == completely legal.
19:36 <@sasquatc4> well yea, but then you still have to purchase another device that gives you component output on a macbook
19:38 <@sasquatc4> im just surprised dcp hasnt gone after them yet, just got back from a cea/dcp conference all last week, stating how they were prosecuting rouge devices, which made me wonder about the fury since its been out like a year already
19:39 <@Dagmar> It's because the french don't fucking care, afaik
19:39 <@sasquatc4> oooh, didnt realize they were a french company
19:39 <@Dagmar> Their website was very obviously in France less than a year ago.
19:40 <@Dagmar> When I first found out about it, it looked shifty as hell
19:41 <@Dagmar> You won't ever see them selling those in stores, and until the agencies see those devices being a problem in people's homes, it's probably not worth worrying about them doing it
19:42 <@sasquatc4> well its the only rouge device i know of, which made my wonder why they havent done anything since they said they were, then again maybe they have and its just not public
19:42 <@sasquatc4> meanwhile they went over their wireless standards, which are freakin rediculous
19:45 <@sasquatc4> either way, the issue they are going after apple for is pretty much standard across the industry, just about everyone constantly enables hdcp, which is something test equipment complained about since they dont support it, but still, its pretty damn common and no one complains about anyone else
19:45 <@sasquatc4> and these are devices taht are always hooked up to tvs, not just a laptop
20:18 <@dc0de> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCErKuCx5U
20:18 <@dc0de> sfw
20:23 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: have you seen this change to armory yet?  http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Evilpig
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20:42  * polerin sighs
20:44 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: No I hadn't seen it, and at least I feel better about having the highest Achievment points in my guild
20:44 <@Dagmar> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Skywall&n=Eshk
20:44 <@Dagmar> By the way, I was right you *can* get the Disturbing the Peace achievement at pretty much any old time.... not just during Brewfest.
20:54 <@Evilpig> I see that
20:57 < dasunt> This is so wrong.
20:57 < dasunt> As a vegetarian, I should really be more supportive of other vegetarians, in theory.
21:00 <@Dagmar> ...but most of them are whiny?
21:01 < dasunt> Whiny idiots.
21:02 < dasunt> Although one just impressed me.
21:03 <@Dagmar> Then encourage that behaviour
21:03 < dasunt> I will.
21:04 < dasunt> And I'll be saddened by his eventual bannation.
21:04 < dasunt> Unless I get there first.
21:05 < dasunt> Right now, my controversial statement of the day seems to be pointing out that a better social safety net for the unemployed and poor leads to less crimes.
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21:13 <@polerin> dasunt: where?
21:14 < dasunt> Vegetarian forum.
21:14 < dasunt> I
21:14 < dasunt> I'd post it, but it's better not to speak its name.
21:14 < dasunt> It is unholy.
21:15 <@polerin> dasunt: better watch out, you might say that it's more important to pay attention to the systematic disenfranchisement and dismissal of native americans than trying to push one more family to eat a tofurky this thanksgiving
21:15 <@polerin> and all hell will break loose
21:15 < dasunt> Knowing the forum, I'd probably be called a racist.
21:16 <@polerin> at which point you should point to something like http://www.uaine.org/dom.htm
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21:16 <@polerin> because of course it's more racist to actually LISTEN to what someone has to say than completely erase their existance
21:17 <+SmthingPrductive> "It doesn't matter dude, you don't shoot a guy in the dick"
21:18 < dasunt> I'm already an asshole because I pointed out that the fluffy little animals out in the woods tend to kill things.
21:19 <@polerin> hehe
21:19 <@polerin> don't get me wrong
21:19 <@polerin> there are vegitarians I respect
21:19 <@polerin> my uncle for example
21:19 <@polerin> but the fact you're one kind of progressive doesn't give you a pass on being stupid in other ways
21:20 < dasunt> I'd say a good percentage of teenage vegetarians aren't progressive, they are just hiding an eating disorder.
21:20 <@polerin> if you're a veggie that's cool.  If you want to promote that, that's awesome.  Don't assume that everyone will agree with you though
21:20  * polerin shrugs
21:21 <@polerin> donno
21:21 < dasunt> I'm not even upset that the people disagree with me, but its the way they disagree that's so full of idiocity.
21:21 <+SmthingPrductive> "God damn it Butters! What did I say about shooting guys in the dick!?!"
21:22 <@polerin> dasunt: yeah.  Happens all the time when you try to point out something to people
21:22 <@polerin> rephrase
21:22 <@polerin> any time you try to make people face their privilige, they back away handwaving and attacking you
21:22 <@polerin> hell, I've been guilty of doing it :/
21:23 < dasunt> I'm sure I've been an idiot.
21:23 < dasunt> And I'm pretty sure I've been wrong many times.
21:23 < dasunt> But damn, don't counter in a knee-jerk way.  Actually have a reasoned argument.
21:24 <@polerin> a bunch of the sites out there have bingo cards XD
21:24 <@polerin> http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=431
21:24 <@polerin> like that one
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21:25 < dasunt> polerin: Ha ha!
21:25 <@dc0de> sup polerin
21:25 <@polerin> hi dcode :)
21:26 <@dc0de> you having a big shindig for Thanksgiving?
21:26 < dasunt> polerin: I mean, how dare you encourage repression by the patriarchy!
21:27 < dasunt> I will say this much, I am an equalist, not a feminist.
21:27 <@polerin> dc0de: probably some more work during the day.
21:27 <@polerin> dasunt: lol
21:27 < dasunt> I'd rather not judge people's actions by what dangles between their legs.
21:27 <@dc0de> polerin: you're working tomorrow?
21:27 <@polerin> dasunt: what do you consider the difference?
21:27 <@polerin> dc0de: not really but yes
21:27 <@polerin> just a bit prolly
21:28 < dasunt> polerin: Equalitarianism argues for gender blindness.
21:28 <@dc0de> polerin: well, you and Lissa have a great Thanksgiving.
21:28 < dasunt> polerin: feminism seems to argue that gender is realized, but that it should be countered by positive discrimination.
21:28 < dasunt> AFAICT.
21:28 <@polerin> dasunt: not really, give me a sec
21:28 <@polerin> dc0de: thanks hon you too.  are you heading out? :P
21:29  * dc0de is in Ft. Walton Beach, with just the immediate family... Thanksgiving on the Beach!
21:29 <@polerin> dasunt: feminism says that in order to treat people equally, you have to acknowledge the fact that people are treated VERY unequally right now
21:29 <@polerin> dasunt: and realize the fact that men still do have social power
21:29  * dc0de is a chauvenist pig, I treat all women as objects...
21:29 <@polerin> dc0de: we know ;p
21:30 <@dc0de> polerin: yeah, but you and Lissa can cope... :)
21:30 < dasunt> polerin: I'd say that men and women both have social power and social disenfranchisement, with the balance of power overall favoring men.
21:30 <@polerin> dasunt: the balance of power way favors men when you look at many of the things.
21:30 < dasunt> That statement alone seems to split with mainstream feminism.
21:30 <@dc0de> and regardless that I'm a chauvenist, I care about the people... I can't help it if I like boobies... :)
21:31 < dasunt> polerin: Yes, in many ways, the balance of power favores men.
21:31 <@dc0de> dasunt: as it should. :P
21:31 <@polerin> i'm really not with it enough for either of these conversations right now
21:31 < dasunt> But sometimes, the balance of power favors women.
21:31 <@dc0de> j/k
21:31 <@polerin> dasunt: oreally.  I'm curious of your examples :P
21:32 <@dc0de> well, on that note, I'm off to watch girl on girl porn.
21:32 < dasunt> polerin: I have a friend.  As a teen, he was sexually assaulted by a female guardian.
21:32 < dasunt> polerin: It has messed him up.
21:32 <@polerin> ok?
21:32 < dasunt> But its amazing how many people think it's okay because he was a teen guy and she was an older woman.
21:32 <@polerin> How does that meen the balance of social power favored women?
21:32 < dasunt> Where, if the gender roles were reversed, someone would be seeing jail time.
21:34 <@polerin> well yes, I agree that it should still be prosecuted, but the reason it's not is because society is trying to reinforce the idea of male as conqueor and women as the prey
21:34 < dasunt> Or what about a recent change in the great state of Minnesota's laws concerning alimony.
21:34 <@polerin> "hah hah yeah you got some yay."
21:34 <@dc0de> polerin: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=50163363704
21:34 <@dc0de> sfw
21:34 < dasunt> We've recently changed our laws so that if one parent makes more than another parent, they pay more child support, regardless of gender.
21:34 <@dc0de> and sf home too.
21:34 < dasunt> At least one feminist group opposed this change.
21:34 < dasunt> WTF?
21:35 <@polerin> dasunt: compared to the fact that women have signifigantly less income, all across the board, sorry, I'm sorry. :P
21:35 <@polerin> dasunt: I'd have to look at it
21:35 <@polerin> I think that one is a fair change
21:35 <@polerin> reading back what you said, I missed it, sorry
21:36 <@polerin> I've been working since like 9am yesterday, with only 4 hours of sleep
21:36 < dasunt> I'm for the law and society being gender blind.
21:36 <@polerin> I'm not.  The fact is that women are at much higher risk for specific types of crimes
21:37 < dasunt> polerin: So?  Poor minorities are at higher risk for specific types of crimes, do you argue for racism being institutaionalized in our laws?
21:37 <@polerin> spousal abuse is genrally a male on female crime.  I'm not saying that same sex abuse doesn't happen (It does) and I'm not saying that women in straight relationships can't be abusive (they can, I know one personally)
21:37 <@polerin> dasunt: hate crime legislation?  Yeah actually I sorta am.
21:37 < dasunt> Weirdly, I know of more female on male spousal abuse, but I think that's due to it being much less taboo.
21:38 <@polerin> you really want to argue that one with me 6 days after the transgender day of rememberace?
21:38 <@polerin> :P
21:38 < dasunt> polerin: Do you know that a subsect of feminism is against the transgendered?
21:38 <@polerin> murderer after muderer has gotten away with the gay panic defense
21:39 <@polerin> as if that makes it any more excusable that they killed someone.
21:39 <@polerin> dasunt: yes, trust me, I'm well aware of it
21:39 <@polerin> hell
21:39 <@polerin> want a long long long long read?
21:39 <@polerin> I can give you an argument thread that covers most of their ground
21:40 <@polerin> I can also give you links to most of the Trans-exclusionary Radical Femninsts (TERF's) on the web
21:40 < dasunt> That's another issue I have with modern day feminism.
21:40 <@polerin> Cheryl Lindsey Seahoff (aka heart)
21:40 < dasunt> They really need to denounce their radical extremists.
21:40 <@polerin> they do
21:41 <@polerin> http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2092
21:41 <@polerin> check that for example
21:41 <@polerin> which, also is the thread that I was mentioning
21:41 <@polerin> (all 278 posts of it)
21:43 <@polerin> but really, this channel is an excelent example of so many of the issues that feminism addresses. :/
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21:44 <@polerin> blahhh
21:45 <@polerin> i'm going to bed.  Lissa's sick, and I'm exhausted.
21:45  * rhia hugs polerin 
21:46  * polerin hugs
21:46 <@rhia> give Lissa a hug for me, too
21:46 <@polerin> hi you ;P
21:46 <@polerin> okies
21:46 <@sdodson> HI FOOLS WHATZZZZUPZ?!
21:46 <@polerin> will do, and same for dasunt
21:46 <@polerin> err
21:46 <@polerin> Drag0n.
21:46 <@polerin> stupid tab complete
21:46 <@rhia> heh
21:46 <@polerin> heh
21:46 <@polerin> night dasunt.
21:46 <@Drag0n> something i should know? <g>
21:46 < dasunt> G'night.
21:47 < dasunt> Hope Lissa gets better.
21:47 <@sdodson> oh nooo
21:48 <@sdodson> wait, what's wrong? hope she be betta
21:48 <@polerin> just a cold :/
21:49 <@sdodson> good i'm drunk i but i still care
21:49 <@polerin> hehe
21:49 <@polerin> I'll pass it along
21:49 <@sdodson> good she was cool person
21:49 <@sdodson> ahyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
21:50 <@sdodson> my mythtv box is hizosed
21:50 <@sdodson> zzvne99
21:50 <@sdodson> whoops
21:51 < dasunt> sdodson: What are you drunk on?
21:54 <@sdodson> Dagmar: magic had #9 and ying leung
21:54 <@sdodson> sp?
21:54 <@sdodson> dasunt: ^^
21:54 <@sdodson> we don't love dem hoes
21:55 < dasunt> You're drunk on what?
21:56 <@sdodson> dasunt: magic had #9 and yeng lieung
21:56 <@sdodson> dasunt: beerz
21:56 <@sdodson> an hoez
21:57 < dasunt> Beers?
21:57 < dasunt> Amateurs.
21:58 <@sdodson> dasunt: I AM    NOT A PORE LIke YOU
21:58 <@sdodson> PRO
21:59 < dasunt> I'm drinking scotch!
21:59 < dasunt> It's like $6 more than the cheapest vodka.
21:59 <@sdodson> dasunt: that means you have a huge dick
21:59 <@sdodson> we are all impressed by your spending on halcohold
21:59 < dasunt> I do!
22:00 <@sdodson> alcohol
22:00 < dasunt> $22 for 1.75L of scotch.
22:00 < dasunt> It _has_ to be good.
22:00 <@sdodson> HOW DO YOU AFFORT HATD?
22:00 <@sdodson> that
22:02 < dasunt> I R RICH!
22:02 <+SmthingPrductive> U R HOMELESS??
22:02 <@sdodson> why?
22:02 <+SmthingPrductive> ;)
22:02 < dasunt> I HALP TEH IDIOTS ON TEH FONE!
22:02 <@sdodson> dasunt: where at?
22:03 < dasunt> One of the circles of hell.
22:03 < dasunt> I swear, some days I think one of you guys have figured out where I work and is just dicking with me.
22:04 < dasunt> While this doesn't count as "idiot of the day", yesterday, my coworker had a client whose hard drive was failing.
22:04 < dasunt> He told the guy that after several reboots, he was finally able to access the drive and copy the data off of it.
22:05 < dasunt> Which the guy was very greatful for.
22:05 < dasunt> THEN HE ARGUED THAT HE COULD REUSE HIS OLD HARD DRIVE!
22:05 <+SmthingPrductive> heh
22:05 < dasunt> It took us over 10 reboots in ordre to get something off your drive.
22:05 < dasunt> We told you this.;
22:05 <@sdodson> if you tell me where you work you will no longer have to wonder if it's one of us dicking with you
22:05 <@sdodson> it wil make your life simpler
22:06 <@sdodson> it's for your own good
22:06 < dasunt> You got worried when we explained how many times we had to reboot it.
22:06 <@sdodson> submit now
22:06 <+SmthingPrductive> heh, you'll /know/ is one of us ;)
22:06 <+SmthingPrductive> or them
22:06 < dasunt> sdodson: You can't exceed the idiocity of the people on the phone.
22:06 < dasunt> You can't.
22:06 <+SmthingPrductive> depending on whether you're talking about #se2600 chatters or homosexuals./..
22:06 <@sdodson> dasunt: trust me i've been on the internet for a LONG TIME
22:06  * Catonic phases in
22:06 <@sdodson> srsly #se2600 has teh guhey in a major way
22:06 < dasunt> Today, I had someone call me, say "wait a minute", argued for about 3 minutes with either someone else or himself, told me thank you, and hung up.
22:06 <@sdodson> Catonic: SUP MY NIGZ?
22:07 <@Catonic> my cok
22:07 <@sdodson> oh you strokn already?
22:07 <@sdodson> it's only 10pm
22:08 <@Catonic> savin up for the real thing. buying a hooker.
22:09 < dasunt> Woot!
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22:10 <@Catonic> and I do mean "buying"... chinese mail order bride.
22:11 <@sdodson> cagtonic: is the roi worth the investment?
22:13 <@Catonic> fttttttttttttttt yes
22:13 <@Catonic> she comes from a country where civil rights are optional... if she gives you any lip, you backhand her
22:14 <@Catonic> if she gives you too much teeth, you backhand her... if she sleeps with the neighbor, you shoot them both, then tell the company about it and they'll tell the chinese army, who'll send a bill to her parents for the ammunition.
22:16 <@sdodson> I see.
22:16 < dasunt> Prenup.
22:16 <@Catonic> bitches know how to obey!
22:18 <@Catonic> did dc0de timeout?
22:27 < dasunt> This is cynical, but I kind of envy arranged marriages some day.
22:28 <@Catonic> you have the tools at your disposal to change your life
22:28 <@Catonic> it's NLP.. there's no such thing as a barrier, just your perception of one.
22:35 < dasunt> NLP?
22:35 <@Catonic> neurolinguistic programming
22:35 <@sdodson> man catonic is hardcore
22:35 <@sdodson> WTF DOES THAT MEAN?!
22:36 < dasunt> I'm too rational.
22:36 <@Catonic> bullshit. that's a cop-out.
22:37 <@sdodson> srsly what does tha tmean, catonic?
22:37 <@Catonic> I'm too fat, I'm too think, I'm too ugly, I'm too broke... none of it matter.
22:37 <@Catonic> *matters
22:37 <@Catonic> sdodson: read it for what the words say
22:37 <@Catonic> if you believe there's no way you could ever make
22:38 <@Catonic> $1M then it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy and you will never find a way.
22:38 <@sdodson> oh
22:38 <@sdodson> If you want htings you've never had you have to do things you've never done.
22:38 <@Catonic> "I could never date a woman that hot." Bullshit.
22:38 < dasunt> Hey.\
22:39 < dasunt> Got burnt.
22:39 < dasunt> Speaking of which...
22:40 <@Catonic> poor fucking you. Would you like some cheese to go with that whine?
22:40 <@Catonic> you've been on a two year long pity party and it's getting old.
22:40 <@sdodson> Yes, a nice prchuto pleez
22:40 <@Catonic> either man up and do something about it, or STFU.
22:42 < dasunt> Speaking of which, I talked to my laywer today.
22:42 < dasunt> I'm almost positive I'm getting fucked, I'm just not sure how.
22:43 <@Catonic> here's what you do... tell her you want to talk to her alone
22:43 <@Catonic> get her in a room alone..
22:43 <@sdodson> Catonic: whose dick is in your ass?
22:43 < dasunt> This isn't directly related to the ex.
22:43 <@sdodson> slip her a ruphy
22:43 <@sdodson> make like catonic
22:43 <@Catonic> then throw her against the wall by the head, and fuck her in the ass.
22:43 <@Catonic> sdodson: I don't need r00fies
22:44 <@sdodson> don't be so modest, we know your secrets
22:50  * Catonic finds a nice warm bed
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22:55 <@Dagmar> NLP is only useful on other people, not yourself.
22:55 <@Dagmar> ...and it mainly only works on people who are not in a state of alertness.
22:56 <@sdodson> ie: catonic's prey
22:56 <@Catonic> self-hypnosis...
22:56 <@Catonic> you can't change other people, you can only change yourself.
22:57 < dasunt> You can give up on who you are.
22:57 < dasunt> For who you want to be.
22:57 <@Catonic> "my girl calls me nilla wafer... I make her come around like communion and she can't wait to get a taste."
22:58 <@Catonic> dasunt: what's it called if you keep doing the same thing and expect different results?
22:59 <+SmthingPrductive> oh oh, I know this, I know this
23:01 <@Dagmar> Insanity.
23:01 < dasunt> "Normal"
23:02 < dasunt> Bergthron.
23:02 < dasunt> they kick ass as a band.
23:02 < zadeaux> ugh........ i just got charged $15 for a double of mcallan 18yr at the pub
23:02 < zadeaux> uhhhhhhhhh
23:03 < zadeaux> wtf they changed their prices
23:03 <+SmthingPrductive> wtf dude! are you at a hotel bar or something?
23:03 < zadeaux> hell no, i'm calling them when i'm more coherent tomorrow
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23:04 < zadeaux> $15 I'd expect a nice shot of Hersch
23:05 < zadeaux> sp. Hirsch
23:05 < zadeaux> http://www.hirschbourbon.com/
23:06 < dasunt> I'm at the remarkably candid point of being drunk.
23:06 < zadeaux> ditto
23:07 < zadeaux> fuck you guys.. goodnight
23:07 < zadeaux> :-)
23:07 < dasunt> zadeaux: So, am I an ass?
23:07 < zadeaux> indeed
23:07 < dasunt> :(
23:07 < zadeaux> lol
23:07 < zadeaux> cyua
23:07 < dasunt> Didn't think I was one.
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23:07 <@Corydon76-dig> No, you just like it in the ass
23:09 < dasunt> I do.
23:09 < dasunt> Really, why the fuck am I not gay?
23:09 <+SmthingPrductive> perhaps you're a selfish bisexual pric?
23:10 < dasunt> It really must be nice to date a gender that isn't taught that to be good, they don't do that.
23:10 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Because cock doesn't interest you
23:10 < dasunt> Dagmar: True.
23:10 < dasunt> Heterosexuality should be considered a mental disorder.
23:11 < dasunt> How sane is it to put up with crazy shit just for boobs and a cunt?
23:11 <@Dagmar> Stop dating the crazies
23:11 <@sdodson> ITS AWESOME
23:11 <@sdodson> I LOVE TITS!
23:11 <@Dagmar> I know, I'm the last person who should be giving that advice, but I swear it's sound.
23:12 < dasunt> Dagmar: But the crazies, they conversations are interesting.
23:12 <@Dagmar>  You can talk to them in bars all the time
23:12 < dasunt> But I want crazy in bed!
23:12 <@Dagmar> This is what drugs are for
23:12 < dasunt> But I want crazy conversations as well.
23:13 <@Dagmar> Same answer
23:13 < dasunt> Y'know how there are programs to "cure" gay people by making the straight?
23:14 < dasunt> Is there the opposite?
23:14 <+SmthingPrductive> would it be weird to spend thanksgiving at a titty bar?
23:14 < dasunt> I want to learn how to be attracted to someone who can't take half my shit in the divorce.
23:14 <@Dagmar> dasunt: If it involves multiple hot chicks at once and lots of nakedness, then I could perhaps be a little gya
23:14 <@Dagmar> Where do I signt up for that "cure"?
23:14 <@Dagmar> Heck, I could be a control... You know, to make sure it doesn't make people gay.
23:15 <@sdodson> SmthingPrductive: lets go!
23:16 <@sdodson> Dagmar: but you already ride a scooter!
23:16 < dasunt> SmthingPrductive: What sort of titty bar?
23:21 <@Dagmar> You can be guaranteed the girls are bitches on Thanksgiving
23:22 <@Dagmar> Look, but don't touch.
23:22 <@Dagmar> Not because the bouncers will stomp you, but because they're only decoration... like the food in the window of the sushi shop that's not made out of anything you could or should try to digest.
23:25 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: Well, if you woulda shown up to PhreakNIC 11, we coulda tried something
23:25 < dasunt> I basically get off on woment hough.
23:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Nothing is stopping you from getting off on both sexes, though
23:46 < dasunt> Why do women call me while drunk?
23:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Because you're such a nice gay boy
23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Clearly, they think you're safe since you won't try to seduce them
23:53 < dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Yep.
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