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00:00 < dasunt> While at lunch, I mentioned that as we spoke, a server was setting itself up through the wonders of automation.
00:00 < dasunt> He was impressed.
00:00 < dasunt> But to be honest, I'm envious of his job.
00:00 < dasunt> For the most part, he hauls rock for landscaping.
00:00 < dasunt> He leaves, drives 3-4 hours, dumps a load of rock, and drives back.
00:01 < dasunt> Its rock.  People know what rock is.  Once he gets rid of a load, he's done, and he deals with landscapers for the most part.
00:02 < dasunt> I'm dealing with people day in and day out who I have to explain basic IT concepts to.
00:02 < dasunt> Which doesn't really bother me if they aren't technically inclined.  I *know* its my job to spoon feed IT concepts to a business we support when they lack an IT guy/staff.
00:03 < dasunt> I'm not upset about that -- hell, I can respect that.  Business A B & C, Attorneys at Law knows jack shit about computers, and I know I lack their specialized legal knowledge.
00:03 < dasunt> It's when a business with an IT guy/staff needs to be spoonfed basic IT concepts that I want to snap.
00:03  * dasunt sighs.
00:04  * dasunt is still bitter about explaining how DNS works to a IT professional on Monday this week.
00:05 <@jb7od> oh man
00:05 <@jb7od> i had to tell the guy i work with now what a hosts file was.
00:07 < dasunt> Heh, I had to google the location of XP's host file today.
00:07 <@jb7od> this cat brags alot and i don't interrupt. "i built 400 computers".
00:07 < dasunt> Tje case O
00:07 <@jb7od> %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
00:07 < dasunt> Er, the case I'm referring to involved someone who didn't understand why his DNS would be borked if he changed IPs.
00:07  * dasunt sighs.
00:08 < dasunt> Oh, and IOS guys, when changing setups, seem to wipe the router clean and create the new setup with total disregard to any port forwarding rules.
00:08 < dasunt> Fucktards.
00:09 <@jb7od> i sat down with a calculator and did the time that i worked in the graveyard down to approx. 1200 machines ressurected from tested parts, not new ones out of the plastic.
00:09  * jb7od has Dumpster+
00:09 <@jb7od> lol
00:09 < dasunt> Heh.
00:09 < dasunt> I'm getting to the point where I don't care about that.
00:09 < dasunt> So I can spend a few hours resurrection 8 working machines from 10 bad ones.  It isn't worth what I charge per hour.
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00:10 <@jb7od> oh i know. i don't brag on it. it just makes 400 new seem like i need to be like stfu.
00:11 <@jb7od> "i did bla" doesn't really get me off at all anymore.
00:11 <@jb7od> lol
00:11 <@jb7od> that's like the appeal to how long you've been doing something
00:11 <@jb7od> "i've been doing * for 100000 years"
00:11 <@jb7od> really
00:11 <@jb7od> who gives a shit.
00:11 <@jb7od> lol
00:11 < dasunt> "I Did <utterly exaggerated description of actual act>
00:12 <@timoguin> If you've built one computer, you've built 1000.
00:12 <@timoguin> Who gives a shit if you can complete a puzzle that comes with step-by-step instructions.
00:13 <@jb7od> well i will say it's not the same as cutting your flesh open on the unburred metal inside a packard-bell to install a cyrix chip (and actually have one) in 2002
00:13 <@timoguin> I've seen my
00:13 <@timoguin> oops.
00:13 < dasunt> Cyrix chip?
00:13 <@timoguin> I've seen my 50-year-old father build a computer when given all the parts.
00:13 < dasunt> Ah, I see you support industrial machines a swell.
00:13 <@jb7od> old ass 386 processor.
00:13 <@timoguin> And he was a truck driver for most of his life.
00:13 < dasunt> Incidentally, the most expensive computer i've ever fixed was in the 6 figure range.
00:13 < dasunt> That was spiffy.
00:14 < dasunt> It controlled five-figure part carefully shaping/destroying four figure stock.
00:15 < dasunt> timoguin: If I was smart, I'd be a truck driver.
00:15 <@jb7od> timogiun: your dad has the bravery that comes from getting friendly with screwdrivers. w0rd to that.
00:15 <@jb7od> a truck driver is closer to a hw tech than a lawyer is.
00:16 < dasunt> My father knows jack shit about computers.
00:16 <@jb7od> my dad says he doesn't.
00:16 < dasunt> But I've seen him work, and he has the hacker mentality.
00:16 < dasunt> When something breaks, he looks at it.
00:16 <@jb7od> he just is rusty.
00:16 < dasunt> When I was last at his garage, one of the four big doors wouldn't open.
00:17 <@timoguin> Well, my Dad has worked on cars all his life and is a good mechanic.
00:17 <@aestetix> rattle: went to the burrito place in the Mission.
00:17 <@timoguin> But not at all smart when it comes to computers.
00:17 < dasunt> So instead of calling a repairman, he grabbed one of the big damned-if-I-know-what-they-are-called-portable-stairs-perhaps and rolled it under it.
00:17 <@aestetix> Good call. One of the best burritos I've ever had.
00:17 < dasunt> And he looked at how it was failing.
00:18 < dasunt> And discovered the belt was slipping.
00:18 < dasunt> That's the hacker mentality right there.  "I don't know how this works, but I am willing to observe"
00:19 <@jb7od> that's a diagnostician. ">belch< Back to basics >belch<" -Fred W.
00:19 <@jb7od> "The scientist asks questions"
00:20 < dasunt> jb7od: That's better than 90% of people.
00:20 <@jb7od> yeh. i hear ya, and i want a burrito.
00:20 < dasunt> Weirdly (and this applies to my father as well), very few people are only diagnosticians.
00:20 < dasunt> They either are willing to believe it's magic, or are willing to experiment on the system.
00:20 < dasunt> "Oh, so the system does X, I'll adjust Y and see if X changes."
00:21 <@jb7od> stimuli/response.
00:21 <@jb7od> i used to term it all out in sex metaphors.
00:22 <@jb7od> i had to quit once i had to start dressing up
00:23 <@jb7od> my old boss used to say this about that: "They don't teach you kids how to THINK"
00:23 < dasunt> I'm surprised how rare thinking is.
00:24 <@jb7od> seriously there's guys i work with who couldn't pass 085 Thinking.
00:24 <@jb7od> who make a way fatter check than me.
00:24 <@jb7od> and the lame thing is that i think it's all on the "keep em hungry, keep em mean" ticket.
00:25 < dasunt> Yep.
00:27 <@jb7od> mmmmmmmmmmarrite. i'm gonna go pass out. thx for talkin.
00:27 <@jb7od> nite, #se2600.
00:29 < dasunt> G'night, lightweight.
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00:33 < dasunt> "The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a
00:33 < dasunt> good bowel movement.  A night carrier landing is an opportunity to
00:33 < dasunt> experience all three at the same time.:
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02:42 <@Catonic> wizzo?
03:13 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPIFHojvotI
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03:40 < Zulard> ugh
03:40 < Zulard> i cant goto sleep
03:52 <@Catonic> me either
03:55 < Zulard> I tried smoking some bongs of this skunk
03:56 < Zulard> Now I'm grillin hamburgers and hotdogs at 4am and I still can't sleep
03:57 <@Catonic> you're a fucking junkie...
03:57 <@Catonic> :-p
03:57 <@Catonic> what zip code are you in?
03:58 < Zulard> uh
03:58 < Zulard> 62983
03:58 < Zulard> lets go with that
03:59 < Zulard> like 6 towns away but only about 30 miles
03:59 <@Catonic> you fuckin weirdos
03:59 <@Catonic> it's 25 degrees outside, and you're grilling.
03:59 < Zulard> Lol
03:59 < Zulard> My grill is in the garage which is heated
03:59 < Zulard> It's heated cuz thats where we smoke at
04:00 < Zulard> (so that way we dont ahve to smoke in the house)
04:00 <@Catonic> I didn't think it was possible to die from smoking pot...
04:00 < Zulard> It's not
04:00 <@Catonic> but I just realized you could potentially pass out in the freezing cold.
04:00 < Zulard> Hahaha
04:00 < Zulard> Just fall asleep in the snow
04:01 <@Catonic> and that's why I won't live anywhere the snow falls... until I'm chasing snow bunnies.
04:01 < Zulard> Oh wow these hotdogs are good
04:03 < Zulard> I'm thinking about moving to AZ
04:04 <@Catonic> have you been out there before?
04:04 <@Catonic> it's like 5% humidity and 105 in the shade... no lie.
04:04 < Zulard> No shit?
04:05 <@Catonic> No shit. I have a friend in Phoenix
04:05 < Zulard> I mainly want to move there because everything is so cheap
04:05 <@Catonic> great place if you have allergies
04:05 <@Catonic> but summer is 9 months long
04:05 < Zulard> I have hella friends in phoenix, tempe, mesa, yuma, and flagstaff
04:05 < Zulard> there's not a winter really
04:07 < Zulard> Hahaha I'm watching Dewey Cox it's hilarious
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06:36 <@Shadow404> oh hell yeah, i love the new themes in gmail
06:36 <@Shadow404> they tottaly kickass
06:36 <@Shadow404> and not to bulky
06:58 < TheLightCosine> wth was the name of the guy who makes the defcon badges?
07:36 <@Shadow404> i just refer to him as the guy who makes the defcon badges
07:39 < Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:40 < TheLightCosine> morning dole
07:40 <@Shadow404> cool, night crew is all cut up on workflow, today is gonna be a good one i hope
07:47  * Shadow404 finally crawls out of bed after making some dns changes and taking a few client calls to fix breakfast
07:47 <@brimstone> how can one be "cut up on workflow" ?
07:47 <@brimstone> do you guys not dull the edges of your workflows?
07:48 <@Shadow404> nope, we have to stock up on plasters
07:48 <@Shadow404> er, band-aid
07:49 <@brimstone> i'm sorry english is hard for you Shadow404
07:50 <@Shadow404> plasters is the british word for band-aid
07:50 <@Shadow404> anywho
07:50 <@Shadow404> off to make breakfast
07:52 <@brimstone> oh, so you're a colours kinda guy huh?
07:53 <@Shadow404> wtf
08:00 < TheLightCosine> and tyres
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08:06 < Dolemite> Shadow404 just wants to be British.
08:06 <@Shadow404> its true
08:06 < Dolemite> He's like Britney Spears in that respect.
08:07 <@Shadow404> i might just shave my head too
08:07 < TheLightCosine> nothing wrong with using propper english
08:07 <@Shadow404> *proper
08:07 < TheLightCosine> although i'll be dead in the ground before i spell it tyre
08:14 <@Shadow404> ok, so we have permission to cut you up, spell out tyre and bury you?
08:15 <@brimstone> only if you use workflows to do it
08:15 < TheLightCosine> lol
08:18 <@Shadow404> brimstone: you have to get "cut" up first
08:18 <@brimstone> by a workflow
08:18 <@brimstone> well, "on a workflow"
08:18 <@Shadow404> exactly, your catching on now
08:28 < Dolemite> The sad thing is that Shadow404 left out as many letters as he included in the intended "caught"
08:29 <@Shadow404> ok, i've had my morning coffee, tying should improve
08:30 < Dolemite> and you've started out so wonderfully with that statement
08:30 < TheLightCosine> rofl
08:30 <@Shadow404> shit, djsflkasjfasd;lf
08:30 < Dolemite> Yay, Smyrna now has a movie theater.  14 screens, stadium seating, all DLP/Dolby Digital/3D capable
08:31 <@Shadow404> nice
08:31 <@I-MOD> rave?
08:31 < Dolemite> They opened at 12:01 AM today with showings of Twilight.  I'm sure a lot of 12 year old girls are calling in sick to school today.
08:31 < Dolemite> No, Malco-Roxy
08:32 <@Shadow404> um Dolemite....how did they opened? if its later today? isn't that the wrong tense?
08:32 <@Shadow404> :p
08:32 < Dolemite> Shadow404 : You are such an ignorant twit.  12:01 AM was the first minute of the day today.
08:33 <@Shadow404> yes i am!
08:33 <@Shadow404> but you should of said last night then
08:33 < Dolemite> But it was the current day.
08:33 <@Shadow404> or better put, this morning
08:33 < Dolemite> No, you should just improve your reading comprehension
08:34 <@I-MOD> lol
08:35 < Dolemite> So anyway, about 2 years ago Malco and Roxy both announced they were building theaters in Smyrna, and the announcements were about a week apart.  Apparently neither company had known of the others plans.  They realized that if they both built theaters, there would be a glut and neither company would profit, so they worked together on this one.
08:35 < Dolemite> And both companies are small, local movie theater companies.  Malco is based in Memphis, Roxy in Lebanon (TN).
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08:44 <@Shadow404> dammit, i need a third monitor for just irc and statuscenter
08:44 <@Shadow404> keep missing stuff when im reading email
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08:51 <@oddball> Yeash:
08:51 <@oddball> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1087437/Man-carefully-planned-chainsaw-death-losing-eviction-battle-developers.html?ITO=1490
08:51 <@oddball> ~minilink
08:51 < Dolemite> OMFG
08:51 < Dolemite> ROFLMAO
08:51 <@oddball> bah
08:51 < Dolemite> http://thesuperficial.com/2008/11/sarah_palin_answers_you_betcha.php
08:51 <@oddball> http://tinyurl.com/66l6zz
08:52 < Dolemite> Sarah Palin pardons a turkey as governor of Alaska, then gives an interview IN FRONT OF THE GUY SLAUGHTERING TURKEYS
08:52 <@Shadow404> woot, ballsy
08:54 < Dolemite> About 2/3 of the way through the guy has to start fighting with a struggling turkey
08:54 <@rhia> Dolemite: laughing as she goes, too
08:55 < TheLightCosine> damn oddball, that's fucked
08:55 <@oddball> so... umm... what about the camera guy and the reporter that probably said "ok, stand over here," and could actually see the shot?
08:58 <@Shadow404> they had to do that on purpose
08:58 <@oddball> *ding* *ding* *ding*
08:58 <@Shadow404> heh
08:59 <@Shadow404> i hope it went live
08:59 <@Shadow404> now im hungry
08:59 < Dolemite> oddball : So if the camera guy said, "Hey, we're at the zoo, go stand on that hungry lion's tail." then she still doesn't have to exercise some modicum of common sense?
09:00 <@rhia> oddball: she was asked if that specific location was ok, she looked around and said "No problem"
09:01 <@rhia> and in the tape, you can see her looking around again - and not stopping the interview to move elsewhere and start over
09:01 <@oddball> Dolemite: I think this is closer to "Stand here while the monkeys have sex behind you."
09:01 <@Drag0n> oddball, reporters are out to make a news story exciting, not show common sense
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09:02 <@oddball> Also... she's at a turkey farm.. what the hell do you think they do there?
09:02 < Dolemite> And if you want to be a public figure, you have to think about how you look in public.
09:03 <@Drag0n> right, and reporters know that if you look bad, it will get more air time, and in turn, make them more money
09:03 <@oddball> It's not like he was put the turkey on a chopping block and using an axe.
09:03 <@rhia> oddball: um, yeah
09:04 <@rhia> he put them head down a chute and had the head whacked to drain the blood
09:04 <@oddball> Which is different than the camera seeing the head pop off and blood spurting all over the place.
09:05 <@rhia> enough blood, they had to pixelate a lot of the film
09:06 <@oddball> again, if the cameraman had taken one step to the right, it wouldn't be on screen.
09:07 <@rhia> and if she had taken a half turn or a couple sidesteps, it wouldn't have been onscreen, either
09:07 <@rhia> and it'
09:07 < Dolemite> Gee, every gubernatorial or presidential turkey pardon I've ever seen has been from behind a desk.
09:07 <@rhia> or a nice green front lawn
09:08 <@rhia> let's just say she doesn't show the common sense or the public sense, I want in a leader, let alone a world leader
09:08 < Dolemite> But hey, let's go down to the slaughtering pen to pick a single turkey out to pardon!
09:09 < Dolemite> And in a display of even greater stupidity...   Ashlee Simpson and Pete Wentz named their son Bronx Mowgli Wentz.
09:10 < Dolemite> I guess they really like The Jungle Book.
09:10 <@rhia> and the cheaper parts of NYC
09:10 < Dolemite> s/cheaper/ghetto
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10:01 <@Shadow404> great, cat had to jump on keyboard in the middle of a dns configuration
10:02 <@Shadow404> oh yeah, that forward A entry that looks like gibberish, well that's Misty's contribution to your zone file
10:03 <@polerin> heh
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10:05 < TheLightCosine> lol
10:14 <@Drag0n> she was conCATenating the file for you
10:14 <@I-MOD> punned to death
10:14 < TheLightCosine> oh brother
10:14 <@Shadow404> l@me
10:20 <@rhia> now Shadow404, don't get catty
10:21 < TheLightCosine> *sigh*
10:21 <@Shadow404> is that supposed to be similiar to batty?
10:22 <@Shadow404> now the little runt is pestering me with noises as she watches this bird on on fence from the office window
10:22 <@Shadow404> even though she has a perfectly good cat door downstairs which she could go out of to chase the bird in person
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10:24 <@Evilpig> someone explain.  You can no longer back up to tape. (However, support of tape storage drivers is still included in Windows Server 2008.) Windows Server Backup supports backing up to external and internal disks, DVDs, and shared folders.
10:24 <@Evilpig> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc770266.aspx
10:25 <@Evilpig> does that mean you can use a tape drive with other software or there is a drive I can load to make the tape drive act like another form of media for backups
10:25 <@Shadow404> um, its M$ what explanation do u need?
10:25 <@Evilpig> I need to make a backup to tape and don't wanna buy software
10:26 <@Shadow404> is this gonna be a personal backup?
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10:26 <@Evilpig> no
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10:27 < Peaches84> hey guys
10:27 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: bill $customer for software and be done with it
10:27 <@Evilpig> they are accountants and cheap
10:27 <@Shadow404> even more of a reason to force them to buy the software
10:31 <@Evilpig> okay suggestions for backup softare for windows that supports exchange and windows 2008
10:31 <@Shadow404> i dont know, your the desktop support tech.
10:32 <@Evilpig> i'm the everything support tech
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10:32 <@Shadow404> im the make the intrawebs work tech
10:33 <@brimstone> hi Peaches84
10:33 < TheLightCosine> my inter-tube is clogged with spam fix it!
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10:42 <@Shadow404> TheLightCosine: have you rebooted your computer?
10:42 < TheLightCosine> my what?
10:42 <@Shadow404> never had a customer say that before when i did helpdesk
10:42 <@Shadow404> have u?
10:43 < TheLightCosine> no but pretty close =P
10:43 < TheLightCosine> i've had people when told to reboot they turned thier monitors off
10:43 < TheLightCosine> someone i worked with had guy who thoguht his microwave was his computer
10:47 <@Shadow404> uh, was this person named ware?
10:57 < zadeaux> sigh
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10:57 < nated0g_wrk> so anyone have a copy of os x 10.5 i can install on VPC
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11:08 <@brimstone> so far, best you can find is 10.5 for vmware
11:09 <@brimstone> best i can find at least
11:09 < nated0g_wrk> just need/want something for work
11:11 <@brimstone> that's totally not legal for work
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11:18 < zadeaux> east coast stratum 2 servers anyone?
11:20 <+SmthingPrductive> zadeaux: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/StratumTwoTimeServers ?
11:21 < nated0g_wrk> brimstone, well since my dumbass coworker broke our mac i need something
11:21 < zadeaux> ty.. for some reason i couldn't find that again
11:21 <@brimstone> get a new mac
11:21 <@brimstone> job's not worth piracy
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11:29 < Falun|lab> esp if the money is coming out of job's pocket?
11:33 <@oddball> Yeah, if the job can't justify the cost of a MacMini + KVM switch, then it's not worth dealing with macs.
11:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Anybody else think today's thread on the list is a perfect illustration of ware not having the hacker mentality?
11:36 <@Shadow404> agreed
11:37 <@Shadow404> script kiddie mentality?
11:38 <@Corydon76-dig> I wasn't going to go there
11:39 < scribbles> link
11:39 < TheLightCosine> ?
11:40 < TheLightCosine> i didn't see anything from ware today
11:40 <@brimstone> yeah, what list?
11:40 <@brimstone> and how do i get on it?
11:40 < TheLightCosine> oh wait must be recent
11:40 <@Corydon76-dig> root@se2600.org
11:40 < TheLightCosine> psh, it doesn't mean he doesn't udbnerstand
11:41 < TheLightCosine> he's jsut pointing uot it is a really weird covnersation
11:41 < TheLightCosine> that thread did degenrate pretty quickly
11:41 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: that he doesn't understand speaks volumes.  He just doesn't think outside of the box the way the way the rest of us do
11:41 <@rhia> considering his random pastes of Baltic history, not a lot of wiggle room about 'weird'
11:42 <@rhia> either
11:42 <@Corydon76-dig> TheLightCosine: or if he understands, that he doesn't appreciate...
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11:44 < zadeaux> umm, i've pretty much resulted to ignoring his posts
11:44 < TheLightCosine> psh
11:44 < zadeaux> usually non-informative
11:44 < TheLightCosine> Corydon76-dig: I occasionally look at my friends and say "you guys are such fucking dorks"
11:44 < TheLightCosine> doesn't mean i don't get it, appreciate it and love it
11:44 < TheLightCosine> and msot certainly does not mean I am not a dork
11:45 < TheLightCosine> sometimes you get a step back and go "man, what a wierd palce in life i am in"
11:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, now that I think of it, ware's more of a spammer
11:47 < TheLightCosine> i think he's more of a griefer myself
11:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Loud, obnoxious, distracting... pretty much describes the original meaning of 'spam'
11:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Note: not UCE
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12:19 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: well, yes it's a perfecte example
12:19 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: but beyond that I'm just ammused that hugme proved men are redundant.
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13:54 < nated0g_wrk> i need drugs
13:55 < nated0g_wrk> i am going to drink heavily tonight!
13:55 <@Neoteric> nated0g: true that
13:55 < nated0g_wrk> ive had a shitty day
13:55 < nated0g_wrk> damn ahole with a mac dont know anything about it
13:56 < nated0g_wrk> and threathened to disconnect his moms service because he had something F'ed up in his mail settings
13:56 < nated0g_wrk> i might do the 10 day WoW just to kill some crap
13:56 < nated0g_wrk> or go to target range...while not drinking
14:11 <@polerin> nated0g_wrk: ...  ugh.
14:11 <@polerin> nated0g_wrk: see. this is why I don't do phone shit
14:11 <@polerin> :P
14:11 < nated0g_wrk> normally its easy
14:12 < scribbles> remote desktop ftw
14:12 < nated0g_wrk> just 1 mac user that doesnt know wtf they have
14:12 <@polerin> scribbles: given the fact that I was only called if the computer or connection was fubar, remote desktop isn't really an option
14:12 < scribbles> yea, and most users are terrible at translating what they're seeing
14:13 < version2> its easier if you go into the situation realizing that all users are complete morons
14:13 < version2> or... typically
14:13 <@polerin> scribbles: I can deal with that
14:13 <@polerin> I actually usually do better with end users than I did the field circus which was what I had to do
14:13 <@polerin> because man the field techs just don't give a fuck
14:14 <@polerin> and they call you for help, then ignore what you're saying
14:14 <@polerin> at least most of the time end users when they call you for help are so desperate they actually do what you're saying
14:15 <@polerin> unlike field techs who say "Ok I'll do that." then 45 seconds later you're like "well?  what's the ip?"  "Oh I just went to check something else"
14:15  * polerin headdesks
14:15 < version2> HAHA... yeah support sucks
14:15 <+SmthingPrductive> you don't say...
14:16 <@polerin> ;p
14:18 <+SmthingPrductive> had a customer report an issue earlier, asked them to try something, they said "but that's not where the issue is"...
14:20 <+SmthingPrductive> I remember this one issue... A scanned barcode wasn't retrieving a record, but 10-keying it brought it up... went through about 8 people, then got to me and I noticed that 2 of the 14 digits were inverted
14:20 <+SmthingPrductive> apparently, every time they 10-keyed it, they inverted them...
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14:24 <@Catonic> wow.
14:25 <@Catonic> I look at the ML, and the first thing I start thinking about is making a quip on "Intrusion Detection Systems." ... Then I realize it's best not to go there.
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14:29 <+SmthingPrductive> ML?
14:33 <@polerin> lol
14:33 <@polerin> Catonic: no really go there
14:33 <@polerin> that's awesome
14:33 <@polerin> scribbles: mailing list
14:37 < scribbles> yea?
14:38 <+SmthingPrductive> think she meant SmthingPrductive ;)
14:38 <+SmthingPrductive> thanks polerin ;)
14:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, prediction time... I predict that the BB Storm's movable touchscreen will start wearing out for users within 90 days
14:39 <@polerin> er
14:39 <@polerin> yeah
14:39 <@polerin> sorry fail@ autocomplete
14:40 < zadeaux> mirc has autocomplete.. cool.. /facepalm
14:41 < Zulard> Hey I have a problem
14:41 < Zulard> I bought this game warcraft 3 for 5 bucks
14:41 < Zulard> And when i goto scroll the screen it scrolls WAY too fart
14:41 < Zulard> fast*
14:42 < scribbles> ;/
14:42 <@Catonic> you fail
14:42 <@Catonic> I know you've used a terminal at 57600 bps
14:45 <@Shadow404> who hasnt
14:46 <+SmthingPrductive> I have a 38400bps terminal next to me... streams irc
14:56  * Catonic hides
14:57 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: I think you need to reply to timoguin's email.
14:57 < Zulard> So what do I do?
14:58 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: since you are the channel pultry inspector...
14:58 <@Catonic> *poultry
14:58  * Catonic hides again
15:05 < Zulard> Nobody knows?
15:06 < Peaches84> hey Catonic_lp come out come out where ever you are
15:07 < eryc> Zulard: scrool with mouse or keyboard
15:07 < Zulard> both
15:10 < Zulard> I tried g00gling it
15:10 < Zulard> nothing worked
15:10 < Zulard> also my videos hang
15:11 <+SmthingPrductive> Zulard: are you still on the 300-mhz compaq?
15:11 < Zulard> Negative I went and bought a new computer yesterday
15:11 < Zulard> =D~
15:11 < Zulard> It's quick
15:12 <@oddball> have you gone to Blizzard and picked up the latest patches?
15:12 < Zulard> good idea
15:12 <@oddball> note for future: YOU START THERE FIRST!
15:12 < Zulard> better idea, try to logon to bnet
15:12 < Zulard> it'll download the patch automatically ;o
15:14 < Zulard> this is gonna take forever
15:14 < Zulard> 56k sucks =(
15:14 <@Catonic> Peaches84: whut?
15:15 < Peaches84> it said you was going back to hide
15:15 <@Catonic> you called me out
15:15 <@rhia> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/11/marijuana_alzheimers.html
15:15 < Peaches84> just wanted to say hello
15:16 <@Catonic> oh. hi.
15:16  * Catonic amperscrams
15:18 < Peaches84> lol
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15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: are you saying that timoguin doesn't have a monster cock?
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: a) how would you know?  b) why would you care?
15:37 <@Evilpig> c) LALALALALALALALALALAALALALALALALA
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15:37 <@Shadow404> d, stfu diaf
15:37 <@rhia> Evilpig: xmas carols already? <g>
15:38 <@Evilpig> there were no FA's in there
15:38 <@Evilpig> I need a power supply for this Cisco 1231
15:39 <@Evilpig> oh yeah I was cutting rack cables.  bbl
15:42 <+SmthingPrductive> woohoo... intermittent routing for QTS, and it's not their fault for a change...
15:42 < nated0g_wrk> yay 5% done downloading wow
15:42 < nated0g_wrk> this is going to be a long night
15:46 <@Shadow404> SmthingPrductive: whos is it?
15:46 <+SmthingPrductive> Shadow404: fails at  6  pos5-0.orlffl4268w.cr.deltacom.net (66.35.174.26)  23.964 ms  23.962 ms  23.981 ms
15:47 <@Shadow404> ah ha, ok, just checking
15:47 <+SmthingPrductive> by "not them", I mean "not in their physical facility"
15:47 <@Shadow404> heh, yeah
15:48 <@Shadow404> timoguin: thats awful
16:00 < Dolemite> Evilpig : Have you noticed the whacked out price of Silver Ore on the auction house?
16:01 <@Evilpig> nope
16:01 <@Evilpig> I haven't been hitting the AH in a while really
16:01 < Dolemite> Well since we've got all these Death Knights on the system...
16:02 < Dolemite> They are all the "alts" of people with at least one 70, so they have money
16:02 <+SmthingPrductive> wow... I have to agree with Shadow404 re. timoguin
16:02 <@Evilpig> I have a deathknight now.  Failtrane
16:02 < Dolemite> And starting at Mining 75 you can smelt silver to get a long way towards maxing.
16:04 < Dolemite> So one silver ore has shot up to around 10 gold
16:04 < Dolemite> Stacks of 20 were going for 100+ gold
16:04 <@Evilpig> wow.  nice
16:04 <@Evilpig> wish I had some but some douchebag named jay cleaned out my bank
16:04 < Dolemite> Yeah, except that if you try to get mining without the auction house, you're pretty screwed
16:04 < Dolemite> Heh, vorshi or ware?
16:04 <@Evilpig> vorshi
16:05 <@Evilpig> vorshi is the only person that consistently rapes my bank
16:05 <@Dementia> You still let him do that?
16:05 <@Evilpig> it's my guild bank.  
16:05 < Dolemite> I'm in that zone where I can't mine silver yet and smelting bronze takes about 10 to advance 1 level.
16:05 <@Evilpig> I forget about it then one day go to get something and it's empty
16:06 < Dolemite> The whole thing was set up to get people to buy silver ore and smelt it, but at 10g each, no way
16:06 <@Evilpig> http://cgi.ebay.com/40-700-UDE-POINTS-HUGE-LOT-407-CARDS-WOW_W0QQitemZ390009695740QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item390009695740&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318  <-- watching this
16:06 < Dolemite> ~minilink
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16:06 <@Evilpig> bot isn't in here
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16:09 <@Evilpig> http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/points/store/c-9-wow-in-game-codes.aspx  <-- good for this stuff ehre
16:10 <@Dagmar> Just as long as you're not buying time cards
16:10 <@Evilpig> nah something completely useless
16:10 <@Evilpig> an ogre suit
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16:10 <@Dagmar> Some anti-fraud measures have finally caught up with the people using stolen CC's to buy game time cards.
16:11 <@Dagmar> ...and as a result, people who were buying the "discount" cards off eBay or wherever had their accounts locked.
16:11 <@Evilpig> sucks for them
16:11 <@Evilpig> I do the 6 month pre-pay
16:11 <@Dagmar> Had a guildie who got locked out for a day because of it
16:11 <@Dagmar> He thought he was getting a deal.
16:11 <@Dagmar> Turns out it was more of a "steal" than he thought
16:11 <@Evilpig> you up to 80 yet?
16:13 <@Dagmar> Nope.
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16:13 <@Evilpig> I got my first upgrade last night.  it was kinda sad.
16:14 <@Evilpig> http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=44735
16:14 <@Dagmar> I've gotten two upgrades, and when I hit 74 I'll be able to do a couple more.
16:14 <@Dagmar> Welll, one will be an upgrade in the sense that it's a lateral upgrade for the purpose of reducing my repair bill.
16:15 <@Evilpig> I should hit 78 tonight.  Have you tried the cooking dailies yet?  or seen the rep stuff you get from the walrus people?
16:15 <@Dagmar> I'm trading some crit and hit for the same amount of agility and damage, and a green
16:15 <@Dagmar> Yep.  I'm doing at least one walrus daily a day, and the cooking dailies, yesterday was the first day I actually *didn't* do one
16:16 <@Dagmar> The Frostscale leatherworking stuff is stupid simple to make, and if you've got any hunters who weren't epiced out at 70, you can make them a full suit of it to replace all their gear at 74.  THey can wear most of it by 72.
16:16 <@Evilpig> I finally got that a simple re-quest achievment.  it stopped resetting on me.  I've been doing the walrus puppies quest and the cooking one
16:17 <@Dagmar> Yeah that damn thing was resetting on Tuesday and I like to never got around to starting on Tuesday night with it
16:17 <@Evilpig> lol.  have you killed the 15 turkeys yet?
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16:19 <@Dagmar> No, and I'm glad my guild leader beat me to it.
16:19 <@Dagmar> It makes all critters hate you, and that would make my critter bits a little useless I suspect.
16:19 <@Shadow404> i did
16:19 <@Shadow404> that was halarious
16:19 <@Evilpig> haha.  it's funny.  when you kill them they turn into cooked turkeys
16:19 <@Shadow404> did it over by the expedition camp near valgrand
16:20 <@Shadow404> where u train the birdy
16:20 <@Evilpig> I haven't noticed any critters running from me
16:21 <@Evilpig> once you get to zun'drak there are some of the coolest quests in the game there.  and one of the worst too
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16:25 <@Dagmar> Turkeys at the very least should have you down as KoS
16:25 <@Evilpig> they're only in that one spot I have seen so far.
16:25 <@Dagmar> Not like they're much of a threat, but if you shoudl be so unlucky as to have a level 4 turkey kill you, it's time to play some other game.
16:25 <@Evilpig> not funny.  i've been killed by a level 3 pig
16:25 <@Dagmar> While you were levle 70+?
16:26 <@Evilpig> granted I was naked and swinging a fish at level 1
16:26 <@Dagmar> Sounds like a fair fight to me
16:26 <@Dagmar> Have ya seen the Winterspring murlocs yet??
16:26 <@Dagmar> Winterspring, winterstream, winterwank or something like that.
16:27 <@Evilpig> maybe
16:27 <@Evilpig> I have seen alot of weird stuff
16:27 <@Dagmar> King Mrgl-Mrgl is there in a slightly modified murloc costume
16:27 <@Evilpig> yeah I saw him
16:27 <@Dagmar> He's one of the D.E.H.T.A druids in disguise.
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16:27 <@Evilpig> and the two that were named after bubble bobble
16:27 <@Dagmar> The baby murlocs are so cute it's horrible.
16:27 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: about that monster cock... Peaches would like to verify that...
16:27 <@Dagmar> Even the noises tehy make are cute.
16:28 <@Dagmar> I am trying to get blue text about the escort quest in that cave over there.
16:28 <@Evilpig> I have been impressed with the sharks and whales n such
16:28 <@Dagmar> Everywhere else in the world, murlocs can RUN LIKE THE FUCKING WIND
16:28 <@Dagmar> ...but this guy, you let him out of a cage and escort him out, and he freaking walks
16:29 <@Evilpig> I failed that three times cause I got distracted by free roaming alliance
16:29 <@Dagmar> Ouch
16:29 <@Evilpig> how dare they tread upon my ground
16:29 <@Dagmar> Don't see yer name on it
16:29 <@Evilpig> I wrote it in their blood when I was done
16:36 <@timoguin> hahaha
16:36 <@timoguin> I posted a M4W on Craigslist.
16:36 <@timoguin> http://nashville.craigslist.org/m4w/928868008.html
16:36 <@timoguin> A Million Decibels of Awesome at Such a Low Frequency You Will Shit - 22 (Lebanon)
16:36 <@timoguin> I'm gettin' laaaaaaiiiiidddddd.
16:39 <@timoguin> EVERYONE READ MY AD
16:39 < eryc> @timoguin: lulz
16:40 < eryc> im gona talk lke a twittererer now
16:40 < eryc> @all: lulz!
16:41 <@polerin> SQL,  alter table, need to check and see if the table has a specific field first
16:44 <@polerin> is there an easy way to use an IF NOT EXISTS for a field rather than an entire table?
16:44 < Peaches84> nice timoguin
16:47 <@timoguin> Peaches84: I'm so getting laid from that, don't you think?
16:47 <@timoguin> No girl can resist that awesome.
16:47 <@polerin> meh nm.  google rtfm is usefull for some reason :/
16:47 < Peaches84> lol it's nice
16:47 <@timoguin> In actuality, I wonder if I will get any responses at all.
16:51 <@Dagmar> polerin I'm sure there's a way to do it
16:52 <@Dagmar> ...but you may be looking at it the wrong way.
16:53 <@Evilpig> select all the records where that field isn't null then do your change on that set of results
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16:55 <@Dagmar> Yech.  Now I see the solution and it's kinda inobvious syntax.  Yuck
16:56 <@Dagmar> Doesn't seem right that you can't directly query members of the list of fields directly.
16:56 < nated0g_wrk> Evilpig, im still downloading at home
16:56 < nated0g_wrk> tried to download it here at the office and it got 77% and then said i didnt have enough hdd space
16:59 <@Evilpig> that sucks
16:59 <@Evilpig> about to head home myself now
17:00 <@ShadowHntr> mmm k
17:02 < nated0g_wrk> well im out for the weekend too
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17:23 <@timoguin> ugh.
17:23 <@timoguin> still no responses.
17:26 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: you really should use 'polyamorous' in place of 'not monogamous'
17:27 <@Corydon76-dig> btw, as I've said before, gay guys are a helluva lot easier to fuck than women
17:28 <@Corydon76-dig> especially if all you want is 'wham bam, thank you sam'
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17:32 <@timoguin> Corydon76-dig: Yea, but I'm open to the idea of a relationship that is not polyamorous.
17:32 <@timoguin> At least with my current one.
17:33 <@timoguin> Basically told her we could only fuck someone else if we were both present.
17:33 <@timoguin> But no dice.
17:34 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: If I wasn't already monogamous, I'd offer to fuck her while you're present
17:34 <@Corydon76-dig> but if the condom fails, I want the baby
17:35 <@timoguin> hahaha
17:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, I want a kid anyway.  Ask her if she's up for that.
17:35 <@timoguin> She's not.
17:35 <@timoguin> Doesn't want kids.
17:35 <@timoguin> Hates kids.
17:36 <@Corydon76-dig> She doesn't have to raise the kid...  Just birth it.
17:36 <@brimstone> timoguin: what happened to your redhead?
17:37 <@timoguin> Corydon76-dig: I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to birth one either.
17:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Aww
17:38 <@timoguin> brimstone: She ain't my redhead.
17:38 <@timoguin> Just a friend atm.
17:38 <@timoguin> Heather and I are still going back and forth constantly.
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17:45 < nated0g> still downloading wow from the site
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18:18 < sdodson> SUP FOOLS?!
18:18 <@timoguin> sdodson!
18:19 < sdodson> ohai
18:19 <@timoguin> sdodson: Read my awesome craigslist personal!
18:19 <@timoguin> http://nashville.craigslist.org/m4w/928868008.html
18:19 < sdodson> m4w? I didn't know you were straight
18:20 < sdodson> you and heather no more?
18:20 <@timoguin> Just read it!
18:20 <@timoguin> It's funny.
18:20 < sdodson> tldr
18:20 < sdodson> Is this for english class?
18:20 <@timoguin> sdodson: YOU READ IT OR I'LL KILL YOU
18:21 <@timoguin> At Outerz0ne.
18:21 < sdodson> i gotta get out of here, was just trying to figure out if timewarner didn't come through tomorrow if i'd have an incronet connection
18:21 < sdodson> score two open aps.
18:24 <@Dagmar> Holy crap it actually *is* Tim's post
18:24 <@Dagmar> I thought you were bullshitting.
18:24 <@Dagmar> ^5
18:24 < sdodson> DAGMAR OMG!
18:26 < sdodson> ohwelz buhbye
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18:26 <@timoguin> Dagmar: haha
18:26 <@timoguin> You think I posted someone else's and just said I wrote it?
18:26 <@Dagmar> Yep.
18:27 <@Dagmar> ...or that you were rickrolling, or planning a craigslist-enabled goatse'ing
18:27 <@Dagmar> ...since so much of that sort of mayhem happens on the interwebs
18:27 <@timoguin> Funneh.
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18:33 <@remoford> timoguin: congrats on teh armdick
18:35 <@timoguin> haha
18:35 <@timoguin> I'm full of myself today.
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19:47 < dasunt> http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html
19:49 <@timoguin> Jesus Christ.
19:50 <@timoguin> That's so old.
19:51 <@scort> that is the 10th time i've seen that link pasted somewhere
19:51 <@scort> 3 times in here alone.
19:51 <@timoguin> It was all over reddit.
19:51 <@timoguin> And a follow-up where someone tried sell it on ebay.
19:52 <@timoguin> And then another follow-up where the winner said he's not going to pay.
19:52 < dasunt> How about this one?
19:52 < dasunt> http://www.violentacres.com/archives/41/fuck-you-money
19:53 <@Dagmar> Oi!  Ozzy does WoW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT8maUTzE48
19:55 <@timoguin> dasunt: haha... nice.
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20:04 <@Dagmar> It's a damn wonder this laptop still works.
20:04 <@Dagmar> I've zapped it about nine times in the last hour
20:06 < dasunt> Fuck, I forgot, I was trolling an atheist on a forum the other day and I never followed up.
20:06 <@Dagmar> WHOA
20:06 <@Dagmar> What the fuck is up with gmail
20:06 <@Dagmar> It's got freakin' colors and shit now
20:07 < dasunt> What?
20:07 <@scort> made of awesome
20:08 <@timoguin> Dagmar: You just notice that?
20:08 < dasunt> Login screen looks the same...
20:08 <@timoguin> It has themes.
20:08 <@timoguin> I turned them off immediately.
20:08 <@Dagmar> I've not checked in probably longer than since i've had the account.
20:08 <@Dagmar> Basically, it's been two days.
20:08 < dasunt> Ah, they have themes.
20:09 <@Dagmar> Heh.  I think I'll be using Terminal.
20:09 <@timoguin> haha
20:09 <@timoguin> good luck with that
20:13 <@Dagmar> Yeah.  Too much visual noise it seems.
20:13 <@Dagmar> Graffiti and Mountains is cool
20:15 < dasunt> Fuck, fuck.
20:15 < dasunt> Alcohol -> Dasunt -> ADD.
20:15 <@scort> .
20:16 < dasunt> I know, it's sad.  :(
20:16 <@scort> windows xp pxe booting?
20:17 < dasunt> scort: KILL IT NOW!
20:17 <@scort> y
20:18 < dasunt> Do fat-bottomed girls make the rocking world go round?
20:19 <@scort> only in the 80s
20:20 < dasunt> Woot.
20:20 < dasunt> I think I may get banned from the vegetarian forum.
20:21 <@scort> good
20:21 <@scort> are you a bad apple or something?
20:24 < dasunt> Yes.
20:24 <@scort> you need to be fed to the pigs
20:24 < dasunt> That would be unfair to the pigs.
20:25 <@scort> hogs*
20:25 <@scort> sorry
20:25 <@scort> they wont mind
20:26 < dasunt> Why do you advocate animal cruelty?
20:26 <@scort> i dont?
20:26 < dasunt> You do.
20:26 <@scort> no u
20:27 < dasunt> I love the cute furry aminals.
20:29 <@scort> my cat has grown so huge
20:30 < dasunt> My cat licks the condensation from the windows.
20:30 <@scort> what a retarded cat
20:38 <@Dagmar> The water is as clean as the windows are.
20:38 <@Dagmar> ...and the DOG drinks from the TOILET.
20:40 <@scort> samem
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20:49 < dasunt> Fuck.
20:49 < dasunt> Someone called me while drunk.
20:49 < dasunt> It's a work call.
20:50 < dasunt> Slightly drunk, but...
20:52 < dasunt> I think I faked it through.
20:52 <@Dagmar> Are you on call?
20:52 < dasunt> No.
20:52 < dasunt> But I am the Answer Man.
20:52 < dasunt> And this person has my cell number because they are a good acquaintance of mine.
20:53 < dasunt> I think they didn't notice.
20:54 < dasunt> It's from a client of ours.
21:02 <@aestetix> God.
21:02 <@aestetix> One of my friends roommates turned on Freaks and Geeks
21:03 <@aestetix> Is American TV really this bad?
21:03 <@I-MOD> yes
21:03 <@I-MOD> that's why i don't have a tv hooked up to cable
21:03 <@aestetix> This is seriously. Horrible.
21:04 <@I-MOD> i haven't seen it
21:04 <@I-MOD> i don't plan to
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21:04 <@aestetix> I am losing IQ points right now.
21:05 <@Feltenix> then stop reading youtube comments
21:06 <@aestetix> It's on TV.
21:06 <@Feltenix> televised youtube comments
21:06 <@Feltenix> the very concept kills brain cells
21:11 <@aestetix> Is this for real....
21:12 <@aestetix> Someone do a google serach
21:12 <@aestetix> Are they actually doing link rating?
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21:24 < dasunt> Well, I waws more unprofessional than kitten today.
21:24 < dasunt> I think.
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22:35 <@sdodson> hai
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23:38 <+SmthingPrductive> I need to visit our colo datacenter more often... if not just to say "wow, that's a nice rack"
23:42 <+SmthingPrductive> that looks right...
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