--- Log opened Thu Nov 20 00:00:29 2008
00:10 <@polerin> I'm fucking tired
00:10 <@polerin> :(
00:11 <+SmthingPrductive> Who's tired?
00:12 < Peaches84>  hey polerin
00:17 <@juice> hi
00:20 <@polerin> SmthingPrductive: I am
00:21 <@timoguin> Any one know something natural to help with focus?
00:21 <@timoguin> Sort term...
00:21 <@timoguin> Like a food/drink, vitamin, etc.
00:21 <@polerin> caffine?
00:21 <@polerin> :P
00:21 <@timoguin> I think caffeine makes me focus less.
00:21 <@polerin> speaking of which, time for tea with vanella
00:22 < Peaches84> hey  juice
00:22 <@juice> what's going on?
00:23 <@timoguin> I've had a ridiculous amount of caffeine since about 6:00 PM.
00:23 <@juice> fun
00:23 <@timoguin> Pot of coffee, two mountain dews, full throttle...
00:23 <@juice> and your still tired right?
00:24 <@timoguin> No, I'm not tired.
00:24 <@timoguin> I just can't focus.
00:24 <@timoguin> IRC doesn't help.
00:25 <@timoguin> Will turn off soon...
00:30 < Peaches84> just doing some work on my budjet
00:30 < Peaches84> budget
00:30 < Zulard> My budget sucks
00:30 < Zulard> But hey at least this weed is some headies
00:35 <@Psyiode> im tired but cant sleep again, yay!
00:43  * polerin chews on her elbow
00:44 <@Psyiode> chilly over in the southeast?
00:45 <@juice> 36 here
00:45 <@juice> in KS
00:48 < Zulard> is there a midwest 2600 room
00:49 <@juice> not sure
00:49 <@juice> aestetix, would know
00:50 <@Psyiode> i think its like 70 here
00:50 <@juice> it was 63 here today
00:50 <@Psyiode> ~weather 85281
00:50 <@Psyiode> no worky?
00:51 <@Psyiode> i guess its actually 64 outside, was up to 87 or so today
00:51 < Zulard> ~weather 62865
00:51 <@Psyiode> pretty frickin warm for novembet
00:52 < Zulard> well that would be cool
00:52 < Zulard> its like in the 20s
00:52 <@Psyiode> yeah thats a bit chilly
00:52 < Zulard> you know what sounds good
00:52 <@Psyiode> i want like 50 lows, 60s highs
00:53 <@Psyiode> with sunshine
00:53 <@Psyiode> beer?
00:53 < Zulard> chicken in the frydaddy wrapped up in a tortilla with cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, onions, bacon, and sausage
00:53 <@Psyiode> send me one?
00:53 < Zulard> It will be cold :(
00:54 <@Psyiode> damn
00:54 <@Psyiode> no microwave yet
00:55 < Zulard> oh man i remember living without a microwave
00:55 < Zulard> it suckkked cuz i went to the store and got hot pockets and pizza rolls and shit
00:55 <@Psyiode> i just moved out of my ex's, and when i moved there i gave all my shit away
00:56 <@Psyiode> so im buying shit as i need it
00:56 <@Psyiode> hahaha
00:56 < Zulard> and then i got back and was like oh yeah i dont have a microwave
00:56 <@Psyiode> yeah, im going to hit goodwill again on saturday
00:56 <@Psyiode> every other saturday every thing is half off
00:56 <@Psyiode> not sure if its this sat or not though
00:57 <@Psyiode> i could buy new, but would rather get an awsome deal
00:57 < Zulard> no shit!
00:57 < Zulard> hell yeah i got a bunch of cool shit from there
00:59 <@Psyiode> so i bought a cable modem for 5 bucks on sunday
00:59 <@Psyiode> brought it home, got on cox activation site just fine with it
00:59 <@Psyiode> it fucked up and i had to call
01:00 <@Psyiode> so they tell me the modem is currently on some other account and they cant do anything about it so its basically worthless
01:00 <@Psyiode> lame!
01:00 < Zulard> wow hows that possible
01:01  * Corydon76-dig buys Psyiode's anal virginity, slightly used
01:02 <@Psyiode> i dont know
01:02 <@Psyiode> im assuming someone had cox, cancelled, moved out of state
01:02 <@Psyiode> so the modem is technically still on the account, but not in use (obviously)
01:03 <@Psyiode> but they told me the original owner would have to call to have it removed, and there was no way i could determine who that was unless i knew someone who worked for cox
01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> I was thinking about that the other day.  Supposing someone sold their virginity on ebay and the winner refused to take it... wouldn't that essentially mean the winner of the auction has the ability to keep that person chaste their entire life?  And anybody taking that virginity could be prosecuted for grand larceny?
01:03 <@Psyiode> so i got a brand new, sealed, motorola modem on CL for 25 bucks
01:04 < Zulard> cool
01:04 <@Psyiode> haha, dont they have some provision against that type of item for sale on ebay?
01:04 <@Psyiode> like soiled garments
01:04 <@Psyiode> and body part
01:04 < Zulard> ive seen people selling kilos on ebay
01:06 <@Corydon76-dig> I need a kid... can I buy a kid on ebay?
01:07 < Zulard> Mann I've got a kid
01:08 <@Corydon76-dig> You do?
01:08 <@Psyiode> Corydon76-dig: you like goats?
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01:08 <@Corydon76-dig> 10 years old?
01:09 <@Psyiode> 10 months old
01:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Psyiode: not in that way
01:10 <@Psyiode> haha
01:11 < Zulard> Yeah
01:11 < Zulard> He's almost 11
01:11 < Zulard> thats really weird you guessed that
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01:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Zulard: how do you figure?
01:15 <@Corydon76-dig> or are you being facetious?
01:16 < Zulard> huh
01:16 < Zulard> how do i figure what
01:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Zulard: given no conjugal visits in the past 10 years, it was a reasonable guess
01:18 < Zulard> it really was
01:18 < Zulard> and you're spot on
01:18 < Zulard> he's 10atm
01:18 < Zulard> I only let him visit me once
01:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, I'm off to bed
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01:22  * Catonic huzzahs
01:25 <@Psyiode> i guess the titans are doing well, i had no idea
01:27 < Zulard> wow these burritos are bommmmmb
01:27 < Zulard> i think they couldve used no salsa though
01:27 < Zulard> prolly wouldve been better
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02:11 <@Catonic> lmfao
02:11 <@Catonic> there's such a remove in oceans 12: "You're playing a role, I'm playing a real person!"
02:11 < TheLightCosine> hunh?
02:15 <@Catonic> imdb: oceans 12: quotes
02:16 < TheLightCosine> I got the quote
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02:16 < TheLightCosine> i don't get the statement you made along with it
02:16 < TheLightCosine> Catonic	there's such a remove in oceans 12: <- hunh?
02:21 <@Catonic> remove is a hollywood term
02:21 < TheLightCosine> ah, guess i'm not up on the lingo
02:21 < TheLightCosine> is it kind of like breaking the fourth wall?
02:22 <@Catonic> no, it's a backwards step
02:22 <@Catonic> or something obvious that's not ...
02:22 <@Catonic> for instance, the exchange above is julia roberts playing a character named tess who gets roped into playing julia roberts.
02:23 <@Catonic> so she says to matt damon: ^
02:23 <@Catonic> which is obvious, because matt is playing a role, and julia will be playing herself as acted out by a fictional would be actress
02:24 < TheLightCosine> heh
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04:28 <@polerin> seriously
04:28 <@polerin> what the hell
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04:28 <@polerin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TswTenrEwwM
04:31 < TheLightCosine> hahaha
04:31 < TheLightCosine> i have tears from laughing so hard
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05:43 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: so if Catonic sold his virginity on ebay and you bought it, you could keep him from ever getting laid.
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06:41 <@Shadow404> ok, who is a dns guru? got some questions about bind 9 format.
06:50 <@Shadow404> basically does an @ sign at the beggining of a line....mean the same thing as null, as long as that dns zone file is the parent on its own
06:50 <@Shadow404> and its origin hasnt changed
06:52 < TheLightCosine> i do not know but i may be able to find out for you
06:54 < TheLightCosine> apparently the @ sign means it is currently forwarding
06:55 < TheLightCosine> basically use it to automate the NS lines MX lins etc usually
06:55 < TheLightCosine> useful as you can have one zone file for multiple domains that way :)
06:56 < TheLightCosine> copied from an IM so those are not my words =p
06:57 < TheLightCosine> I get what he's saying now, it's used for multiple domains that have dientical records
06:58 < TheLightCosine> *identical
07:05 <@Shadow404> ok
07:05 <@Shadow404> thats what i figured
07:05 <@Shadow404> tell him thx
07:05 < TheLightCosine> np
07:05 <@Shadow404> in this case, were moving a customer onto our name servers
07:05 <@Shadow404> actually my favorite organization, meow
07:06 <@Shadow404> thats all i can say
07:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: the @ sign at the beginning of a line means "copy the ORIGIN"
07:37  * brimstone hands Shadow404 a bag of apostrophes
07:38 <@brimstone> you look like you could use some
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07:43 < dasunt> Gah.
07:43 < dasunt> I don't want to work today!
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08:45 <@sdodson> "If you want things you've never had, you have to do things you've never done."
08:47 < Peaches84> very tru
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09:33 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:33 < zadeaux> mornin
09:33 < zadeaux> wow the coffee is bad here today
09:33 < zadeaux> our office coffee sucks
09:35 <@Dolemite> Wheeee!!!!  nothing starts your day like a campus wide power loss for over an hour!
09:35 < TheLightCosine> wow
09:36 <@oddball> damn! what the hell happened?
09:36 <@Dolemite> Don't know yet, but the generators didn't kick in until right before 9
09:37 <@Dolemite> Couple of months ago a substation caught on fire, but the generators fired up.
09:37 <@Dolemite> I told skydog not to plug in that curling iron, but he insisted on getting his hair did.
09:37 <@oddball> sounds like "fun" times
09:38 <@ShadowHntr> Dolemite: you sure he didn't just sneeze?
09:38 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
09:39 <@ShadowHntr> w00t
09:39 <@ShadowHntr> saw my new neurologist at Vanderbilt yesterday
09:40 <@nachoguy> one of our server closets hit 88 degrees.
09:40 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
09:40 <@nachoguy> It did not go back in time though
09:40 <@brimstone> aww
09:42 <@oddball> Is the flux capicitor broken?
09:44 <@nachoguy> if that's part of the AC unit, then yes
09:45 <@nachoguy> it's not bringing the cold positrons to the forward deflector array, therefore the tachyon pulse that cools server closets (and chills refreshing drinks) is not properly within phase
09:57 <+SmthingPrductive> facilities turn off the DC chillers?
09:57 <+SmthingPrductive> they have a tendency to do that in the middle of winter...
09:57 <@nachoguy> nah, this is in an office building.
09:57 <@nachoguy> a _shitty_ office building
09:57 <@nachoguy> so equipment is second rate
09:58 < zadeaux> the new star trek movie looks interesting enough to see opening weekend
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10:46 <@brimstone> BOOTMGR is missing!!
10:50 < eryc> oh noos
10:50 <@brimstone> who took it!?
10:57 <@polerin> I Did
10:57 <@polerin> sorry
10:57 <@polerin> I had the munchies
11:09 <@brimstone> polerin...
11:10 < nated0g_wrk> ugh i need to invest in a TB hard drive
11:11 <@sdodson> People use the word "invest" so loosely.
11:11 <@sdodson> I wonder if that's why our markets are crap.
11:11 <@polerin> I was up till 4:40, don't expect me to be sane
11:12 <@polerin> sdodson: actually depending on the context, a TB hard drive could be an investment
11:12 <@polerin> depends.
11:12 <@brimstone> get two they're cheap!
11:13 < nated0g_wrk> my 320 is getting pretty full
11:13 < nated0g_wrk> guess i could clean up some of my crap too
11:14 <@brimstone> yeah, i'm at 78% used on my fileserver at home :(
11:15 <@sdodson> I use the term to mean something that has potential to gain value. That usage does not apply to harddrives.
11:15 < nated0g_wrk> thats just 1 drive with crap on it
11:15 <@sdodson> Harddrives or any other tech device really.
11:15 <@brimstone> what about boats? tell us about boats sdodson!
11:16 <@sdodson> brimstone: I don't know about boats. Sorry.
11:16 <@brimstone> you're dead to me
11:16  * sdodson wishes brimstone was more conspicuous in his mocking
11:17 <@brimstone> subtlety is for suckers
11:18 <@polerin> sdodson: or to impart value, or savings.
11:19 <@polerin> sdodson: for example, you can invest in more efficent machinary, saving you on power costs
11:47 <@Dolemite> rofl, Penny Arcade just seems extra funny today
11:48 <@Dolemite> reminds me of the guy aestetix was talking about 'needing references' about a month ago
11:53 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT8maUTzE48
11:58 < nated0g_wrk> yeah that is going to make me go out and buy it
12:36 <@brimstone> anyone know a pingable domain name for amazon?
12:40 < zadeaux> doubtful
12:42 < zadeaux> hah.. even their checkip.amazonaws.com doesn't work.. thats some check
12:46 <@brimstone> interesting
12:47 < eryc> amazing
12:48 <+SmthingPrductive> seriously... is an enabled ping that big of a risk?
12:49 < zadeaux> i know right.. just enable echo
12:49 <+SmthingPrductive> I could be just an ignant sob, but I don't recall a echo exploit...
12:49 < eryc> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4096586/
12:50 < eryc> im sure they are just bitter after getting DDoS'd all the time
12:51 <+SmthingPrductive> is "spilt" an actual word?
12:51 <+SmthingPrductive> 'Residents and shop owners wore masks while trying to clean up the spilt blood and entrails'
12:51 <@I-MOD> yes
12:51 <@I-MOD> past tense of spill
12:51 <+SmthingPrductive> thought that was spilled
12:51 <@I-MOD> one form of past tense, anyway
12:51 <@Catonic> nothing like a nice sleep after a workout.
12:51 <@brimstone> what's piworx.com and why is it in amazon's ip range?
12:51 <@I-MOD> there are different ways
12:52 <+SmthingPrductive> ok, thought it was just one of those shortenings...
12:52 <@Catonic> Engrish motherfucker. You can spekz it?!
12:52 <@brimstone> spilled doesn't sound right
12:53 <+SmthingPrductive> I just haven't actually seem a reputable (used loosely) publication use "spilt"...
12:53 <@polerin> need fud
12:54 <+SmthingPrductive> long u?
12:54 <@Catonic> past participle?
12:55 <+SmthingPrductive> brimstone: all my searching suggests it's another online storage system...
12:56 < eryc> http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/irregular-verbs/spill.html
12:57 < eryc> hope you learnt somethin
12:57 <@brimstone> SmthingPrductive: kinda like s3, herm
12:57 <@Catonic> the man with the misspelled nick is schooling the channel on English usage? awesome.
12:58 <+SmthingPrductive> brimstone: my thoughts exactly... I am just running in circles on it though
12:58 <@scoil> .
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14:23 <@scoil> anyone know postfix?
14:26 <@sdodson> yes i'm awesome with it
14:26 <@scoil> Nov 19 13:07:16 mail postfix/smtpd[24810]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: dev
14:26 <@scoil> yes i've fucking googled it
14:26 <@scoil> couldn't find shit about dev
14:27 <@scoil>    tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
14:27 <@scoil> fbsd 7
14:35 < Catonic_> scoil: pastebin me your main.cf
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14:36 <@scoil> http://pastebin.com/m4c1f3f47
14:39  * brimstone compromises scoil's email server
14:39 <@scoil> well it's not working so idk how you're going to do that :P
14:39 <@brimstone> check root's home dir
14:39 <@brimstone> :D
14:40 <@scoil> oh you rly did somethign
14:40 <@scoil> i dont see anything :P
14:45 <@Catonic> I just got my mind's eye punched in the junk.
14:46 <@Catonic> is postfix tls aware?
14:46 <@polerin> Catonic: heh
14:47 <@brimstone> polerin: !
14:47  * brimstone comes bearing cakephp questions!
14:47 <@polerin> imagine my supprise :)
14:47 <@polerin> wazhup
14:48 <@brimstone> pm?
14:48 <@brimstone> so as not to clot the channel
14:48 <@polerin> lol
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14:48 <@scoil> yes Catonic
14:48 <@brimstone> https://www4.vanderbilt.edu/ that's interesting...
14:49 <@scoil> afaik
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14:49 <@scoil> what's a good way of telling
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15:11 <+SmthingPrductive> The Dow closes down more than 440 points to finish just above the 7,550 mark.   MORE DETAILS: <http://www.cbs46.com/tu/5CtOuqFOV.html>
15:16 <@scoil>                                         ? ?[X] TLS       Enable SSL and TLS support                        ? ?
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15:19 <@I-MOD> lol
15:19 <@I-MOD> gotta love the dow
15:23 <@I-MOD> huh...close to dropping below what it was 10 years ago
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15:29 <@scort> Nov 19 14:16:51 mail postfix/smtpd[25302]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: ??"fY???N)????vaSM
15:29 <@scort> lul
15:29 <@scort> oh i need to setup ntpd on that ocmp
15:33 <@Dolemite> what's an inexpensive VM hosting provider?
15:34 <+SmthingPrductive> serverpronto I love... dedicated server
15:34 <@scort> offset 90650.569593 sec
15:35 <@Dagmar> Dreamhost is pretty cheap
15:35 <@brimstone> Dolemite: vpsvillage.com, linode.com
15:36 <@Dolemite> hrmm, crunchy, even in milk
15:47 <@Dolemite> man, the problem is that you get so little disk space
15:47 <@Dolemite> you want 40GB and you're paying $80/month
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15:51 < zadeaux> i'm scared of vm hosting getting on an overprovisioned server
15:51 < zadeaux> whatever you do don't go godaddy VM
15:52 <@Dolemite> I've never been able to get past all of their ads to see that they sold VM's
15:53 <@brimstone> why do you need 40GB?
15:53 < zadeaux> ha.. no shit
15:53 <@brimstone> that's a huge amount of pictures
15:53 <@Dolemite> yes, it certainly is
15:53 <@Dolemite> I may just move my galleries to the house
15:53 <@brimstone> are you keeping multiple resolutions?
15:54 <@Dolemite> Yeah, Gallery makes a smaller size, plus a thumbnail
15:54 <@brimstone> if you don't need a full vps, dreamhost has some awesome deals on shared web space
15:54 <@brimstone> JimShoe can host a few T with 5T transfer a month
15:55 <@brimstone> he's only paying like $20 for it too
15:55 < zadeaux> wow at the current dreamhost offer
15:55 < zadeaux> they are decent?
15:55 <@brimstone> i'd say so
15:55 <@Dolemite> Well, the main thing is that I want to control my mail server, along with having SMTP-AUTH so that I can have my entire family sending email from anywhere without having to teach them about VPN's or tunneling
15:55 <@brimstone> good speed and uptime
15:56 <@polerin> yeah
15:56 <@polerin> I like dreamhost :)
15:56 <@polerin> Not perfect, not something I'd run a major company off of
15:56 <@polerin> but good none the least
15:56 <@polerin> err
15:56 <@brimstone> Dolemite: do you need 40GB for that? would 4GB work for mail.dolemiteisawesome.net ?
15:56 <@polerin> none the less
15:57 < zadeaux> $119 for a year, unlimited disk and unlimited BW
15:57 < zadeaux> hmmm
15:57 <@sdodson> Is the problem with SSL and name based vhosts an HTTP problem or SSL cert problem?
15:57 <@brimstone> sdodson: ssl cert problem
15:57 <@sdodson> brimstone: So if I have a cert with multiple names I can configure apache to work with it and all is merry?
15:57 <@brimstone> you connect to the host and first thing the host says "i am asdf.com" your client then says i didn't connect to asdf.com problem!
15:58 <@brimstone> sdodson: you can get around it with *.asdf.com on the cert
15:58 <@brimstone> i don't think you can do asdf.com and bar.com on the same cert
15:59 <@sdodson> brimstone: AlternateSubjectNames or something
15:59 <@brimstone> oooh, fancy
16:00 <@sdodson> http://blog.loftninjas.org/2008/11/11/configuring-ssl-requests-with-subjectaltname-with-openssl/
16:00 <@sdodson> we shall see if it works!
16:02 <+SmthingPrductive> could do what we do on some of our demo servers... have a certificate with a cn of '*' and an expiry date of like 12/31/2098
16:03 <+SmthingPrductive> of course, self-signed
16:04 <@sdodson> imma say no, kthnx though
16:05 <+SmthingPrductive> I just thought of an awesome server name
16:05 <+SmthingPrductive> priapism
16:05 <+SmthingPrductive> indicative of large amounts of uptime
16:07 <@Corydon76-dig> SmthingPrductive: What that indicates to me is that if you take that machine down without major surgery on the filesystem, it won't come back up
16:07 <+SmthingPrductive> Corydon76-dig: story of my life
16:07 <@Corydon76-dig> SmthingPrductive: I've dealt with a few machines like that in my life
16:07 <+SmthingPrductive> I know some of our customers who literally could not reboot their legacy servers because they didn't have the procedure to bring them back up
16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> When I upgraded my FreeBSD box from 2.2.8 to 3.0, I experienced a similar problem
16:08 <+SmthingPrductive> priapism?
16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Suddenly, all of the binaries on my system had the wrong headers, so 'halt' failed
16:09 <+SmthingPrductive> heh, yay
16:09 <@Corydon76-dig> I couldn't take down the system safely (conversion of a.out to ELF)
16:09 <@Corydon76-dig> It really sucked, having been trained to NEVER hit the power on a Unix box to have to hit the power button
16:09 <+SmthingPrductive> interestin'
16:09 <+SmthingPrductive> yup
16:10 <+SmthingPrductive> question is... were you able to get it up? and how long did it take?
16:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Only took an fsck on reboot
16:11 <+SmthingPrductive> nice
16:12 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig always only takes a few minutes to get it up
16:12 <@brimstone> or so i've been told
16:13 <+SmthingPrductive> me too... but big kernels always seem to take some extra time
16:14 <+SmthingPrductive> I do believe I must get to D&D... au reviour
16:15 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: Depends on the speed of your disk.  :-P
16:15 <@brimstone> heh heh, i know whatchu mean
16:16 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: sometimes it's up in just a few seconds
16:17 < zadeaux> so dreamhost looks pretty good
16:18 < zadeaux> thanks for the tip
16:19 < zadeaux> looks like I got some moving work to do
16:19 < zadeaux> :-)
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16:29 <@Dementia> Dreamhost? I've had nothing but problems with them
16:39 <@brimstone> like what? they've been pretty good to me
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16:56  * nachoguy is late to the game.  Dreamhost has lots of disk and transfer, but the load on the server that I'm on is never below 4
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16:56 <@nachoguy> it sometimes takes >5 minutes to log in
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16:57 < nated0g_wrk> gmail got themes now. yay i got mail!
16:57 <@nachoguy> for gallery, it's ok, if a little pokey.
16:57 <@nachoguy> for interactive use of the shell, forget it
16:57 < version2> I have ninjas in my gmail
16:58 < version2> but not everyone has themes yet, I tried to tell my friends and a few cant use them... apparently google is slowly enableing them
16:58 < eryc> yay i got the themes tab too now
16:58 <@nachoguy> I had less lag with ssh on a 28.8 modem
16:58 <@nachoguy> I didn't have it thismorning, I was looking for it
16:58 < eryc> yea i been waiting all day for mah themez!
16:59  * eryc switches to l33t mode
16:59 < version2> heh, I got mine this morning
16:59 <@nachoguy> you stoled mah theemzuh
16:59 < version2> you *could* just use lynx... it works in cygwin if you not on a *nix box
17:00 < version2> that would be tru-er leet mode
17:03 <@sdodson> my ssl cert hackery failed
17:05 < version2> trying to do what with a cert?
17:05 <@sdodson> version2: stuff
17:06 < version2> SWEET
17:08 <@sdodson> version2: I know, it's hella leet
17:09 < version2> hells yeah
17:17 <@nachoguy> later
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17:18 <@sdodson> i loves me some dreamhostz
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18:24 <@sdodson> rhia:which cat food did you say was good? purina or science diet?
18:28 <@rhia>  lol, neither -
18:30 <@sdodson> i kid i bought something else i forget, was expensive as fuck
18:31 <@sdodson> $24 for 7lbs
18:31 <@rhia> try Castor & Pollux "Organix" or "Ultramix" | Felidae, Merrick, NV Prairie, DVP's Natural Balance, Wellness, Innova/Evo, Solid Gold, or Eagle
18:32 <@rhia> jebus, that's high - Organix is only  $12 for 6
18:32 <@sdodson> c those, didnt see any of those names either
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18:32 <@sdodson> muh phone, it eats muh wordz
18:33 <@rhia> PetCo carries Castor & Pollux, Wellness, and DVP Natrural Balance brands
18:33 <@rhia> the rest are specialty store or online order
18:34 <@sdodson> mmm willhave to check out internet stuff i cant afford this crap
18:34 <@rhia> http://www.onlynaturalpet.com
18:35 <@rhia> competitive prices, good brands (food wise, the other stuff can get very pricey there)
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20:14 <@timoguin> Anyone know how to adjust the resolution with a Windows XP virtual machine in VirtualBox?
20:14 <@sdodson> http://apina.biz/1185.jpg  Is that aestetix?
20:14 <@timoguin> I want the option for 1440x900 so I can do fullscreen.
20:14 <@timoguin> But I don't have that option.
20:19 <@sdodson> have you installed the addons?
20:21 <@timoguin> Don't know anything about addons.
20:24 <@brimstone> it's an option in the menu
20:24 <@brimstone> it downloads and mounts the iso for you
20:24 <@brimstone> then just click through it and reboot
20:24 <@brimstone> it'll resize the screen as you do then
20:28 <@timoguin> Ah cool.
20:28 <@timoguin> Downloading it now.
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20:52 <@sdodson> timoguin: hai
20:52 <@sdodson> going to shut my shit down now.
20:52 <@timoguin> sdodson: Cool.
20:53 <@timoguin> I switched over to my shell yesterday.
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21:06 < Zulard> Heyyy I got a new computer
21:06 < Zulard> It's fucking FAST
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> congrats
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> :)
21:07 < Zulard> Thanks =D
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> do tell
21:07 < Zulard> i needed one man my 300mhz compaq was pretty outdated
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> lol
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> i know the feeling
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> my bro had a P3/450
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> and i replaced it with a Lenovo ThinkCentre M55
21:07 < Zulard> haha
21:07 <@ShadowHntr> Core 2 Duo E6400
21:08 < Zulard> I got an HP m7557c
21:08 <@ShadowHntr> not bad, don't know enough about their lines to get an idea of what you got there lol
21:08 <@ShadowHntr> HPs are alright
21:08 < Zulard> with an HP f2105 moniter
21:08 <@ShadowHntr> i've done some warranty work for HP
21:08 < Zulard> I got it mainly for the moniter, it's a beast
21:08 <@ShadowHntr> cool
21:08 <@ShadowHntr> i got a ViewSonic VX2245wm
21:09 < Zulard> its like 21 inches flat screen (wide)
21:09 <@ShadowHntr> 22" widescreen w/iPod dock
21:09 <@ShadowHntr> :D
21:09 < Zulard> :OOOOOOOO
21:09 < Zulard> whats an iPod?
21:09 <@ShadowHntr> lol
21:09 <@ShadowHntr> don't know yet
21:09 < Zulard> Oh
21:09 <@ShadowHntr> but an UltraSPARC IIi processor fits nicely in it's dock lol
21:09 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
21:09 < Zulard> haha
21:10 < Zulard> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod
21:10 < Zulard> its an mp3 player apparantly
21:10 < Zulard> that's neat
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> cool
21:11 <@ShadowHntr> i already got one though
21:11 <@ShadowHntr> Samsung K3
21:11 <@ShadowHntr> rather nice
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21:54 < scoil_> .
21:55 < Zulard> zoh noes netsplit
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> ugh
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> must have tripped over the wrong cable
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
21:55 < Zulard> lol
21:55 < scoil_> they tripped over the internet
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> uhhh... i wiped the file?
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> ... i wiped all the files?
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> ... i wiped the Internet ?!?!?
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> i don't even have a modem !
21:56 < scoil_> formatt c:
21:57 < Zulard> i thought it was format c:
21:57 < scoil_> well i suck at typeing wheng therss two laptops in front of me
21:57 < scoil_> and im typig on the kbyardooood behidn ti
22:00 <@ShadowHntr> gotta learn to touch type ;)
22:01 < Zulard> yeah i can type wihtout even looking at the keyborad
22:02 <@brimstone> i can ride my bike with no handlebars
22:02 < Zulard> i can ride it without keeping hands on the handlebars but idk if i could ride one without handlebars
22:02 <@ShadowHntr> lucky you
22:08 < Zulard> Holy shit
22:08 < Zulard> A guy shot himself in front of the marion VA
22:09 <@timoguin> Anyone here take Adderall?
22:10 <@ShadowHntr> timoguin: i used to before i graduated high school
22:10 <@ShadowHntr> what's up
22:10 < scoil_> abused it
22:11 <@timoguin> ShadowHntr: I think I need some.
22:11 <@timoguin> At least short term.
22:11 <@timoguin> Can't focus for shit on anything.
22:11 <@ShadowHntr> timoguin: you could ask your doc about Wellbutrin or Strattera
22:11 <@ShadowHntr> those are non-controlled meds for ADHD now
22:11 <@timoguin> Non-controlled?
22:11 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
22:11 <@ShadowHntr> adderall is schedule II
22:11 <@ShadowHntr> highest legal
22:11 <@ShadowHntr> which means no refills
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> must go to the doc each month for next 30 days supply
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> highest control level
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> controlled substance
22:12 <@timoguin> Ah.
22:12 <@timoguin> And those others you can just get refilled automatically?
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
22:13 <@timoguin> Those help with focus?
22:14 <@timoguin> ADHD stuff?
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22:15 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
22:15 < Zulard> Schedule 1 is highest control level..........
22:15 <@ShadowHntr> Schedule I is completely outlawed
22:15 <@ShadowHntr> no accepted medical use
22:16 <@timoguin> He said Schedule II is highest legal.
22:16 <@ShadowHntr> Schedule II is the highest controlled legal substance level
22:16 <@Dagmar> ...and the most entertainment value.
22:16 <@ShadowHntr> those are the tightest controlled.
22:16 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
22:16 < Zulard> ahhh
22:16 <@ShadowHntr> morphine, adderall, amphetamines, etc.
22:16 <@Dagmar> Screw those.
22:16 <@Dagmar> Lysergic Acid Ddiethylamide.
22:16 < Zulard> Methamphetamine is schedule 1 though, no?
22:16 <@Dagmar> For the win.
22:16 < Zulard> spelled it wrong
22:16 <@ShadowHntr> Zulard: yes i think so
22:16 <@Dagmar> s/Dd/d/;
22:17 < Zulard> Methamphetamine can be prescription
22:17 <@Dagmar> I know someone who's actually on meth for his hyperactivity.
22:17 < Zulard> they prescribe it for narcolepsy mainly
22:17 <@dc0de> and for ADD
22:17 <@ShadowHntr> i wish xyrem wasn't so tightly controlled... ;)
22:18 <@ShadowHntr> xyrem is a prescription form of GHB
22:18 <@ShadowHntr> used for cataplexic narcolepsy
22:18 < Zulard> GHB is so easy to make its not even funny
22:18 <@Dagmar> Just get some kids toys and soak 'em in water
22:18 <@dc0de> cataplexic? is that when you fall asleep on a cat?
22:18 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:18 <@timoguin> I was reading about DMT yesterday.
22:18 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de: i wish it were... ;)
22:18 <@timoguin> Looks really interesting.
22:19 < Zulard> timoguin: Are you EXTREMELEY experienced with psychs?
22:19 <@Dagmar> timoguin: Warning.  Not the same as LSD.
22:19 <@ShadowHntr> datura? aka jimsom weed?
22:19 < Zulard> Dont fuck with datura
22:19 <@Dagmar> "Reasonable" levels of LSD, you know you're hallucinating.
22:19 < Zulard> datura is not dmt
22:19 <@ShadowHntr> salvia i'm interested in trying.
22:19 < Zulard> datura is fucking nuts
22:19 <@Dagmar> Salvia is pretty much harmless, but they went and made it illegal in TN anyway
22:19 <@dc0de> I take saliva every day...
22:19 <@timoguin> Zulard: I've never done any psychedelics.
22:19 <@timoguin> I'd like to.
22:19 <@Dagmar> Jimson weed will just kill you (it's cool like that)
22:20 < Zulard> timoguin: DMT is not the one to start with
22:20 <@dc0de> Dagmar: sorta like draino?
22:20 <@Dagmar> "Reasonable" levels of DMT, you can't tell those are hallucinations.
22:20 <@Dagmar> Not being able to tell hallucinations from reality can put you in some BAD situations.
22:20 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar: too bad people don't take it at reasonable doses... :/
22:20 < Zulard> DMT puts you out of body
22:20 < Zulard> completely out of body
22:20 <@timoguin> Zulard: So I read.
22:20 <@timoguin> I don't want to try it first.
22:20 <@timoguin> Was just reading about it.
22:21 < Zulard> Eat some lucy to start you off
22:21 <@timoguin> I figure mushrooms are probable the best starting point.
22:21 <@Dagmar> ShadowHunter: Even unreasonable doses of LSD you can generally tell what's a hallucination and what isn't.
22:21  * dc0de always stayed away from hallucigens... he has a vivid enough mind.
22:21 < Zulard> Or another random research chemical (minus any of the DiPT's)
22:21 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de: Thorazine gave me hallucinations, that's why i don't take it anymore :P
22:21 <@Dagmar> But... not all psychedelics are the same.  DMT and Peyote are a whole different type of thing from LSD.
22:21 <@Dagmar> They are *disassociatives*
22:21 <@dc0de> Dagmar: I prefer not to experiment with any of them.
22:21 <@ShadowHntr> like Ketamine
22:22 <@Dagmar> They'll make you see shit that ain't there, but you'll think it's there.
22:22 < Zulard> and DXM
22:22 <@Dagmar> ...and they'll seriously mess with your head.
22:22 <@Dagmar> LSD is a much more easily manageable kind of crazy by comparison.
22:22 < Zulard> Mescaline is a dissasociative?
22:22 < Zulard> Since when?
22:23 <@dc0de> well, I've done my part to piss people off tonight (in another channel), My work here is done...
22:23 <@dc0de> have a good night all...
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22:23 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:23 <@ShadowHntr> cheers
22:24 <@Dagmar> Since a few hundred years at least.
22:24 < Zulard> EFFECTS CLASSIFICATION
22:24 < Zulard> Psychedelic
22:24 < Zulard> http://www.erowid.org/plants/peyote/peyote.shtml
22:24 < Zulard> :p
22:25 < Zulard> DMT is also a psych
22:25 < Zulard> http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt.shtml
22:26 < Zulard> DXM, PCP, etc are examples of dissociatives
22:26 <@Dagmar> Perhaps when you know more than just what you read on a website, we'll talk again.
22:27 < Zulard> I've done almost every drug there is
22:27 <@Dagmar> Good for you.
22:27 <@Dagmar> I've definitely done just about all the psychedelics.
22:27 < Zulard> You're just mad you got proved wrong
22:28 <@Dagmar> Erowid does not use the same categorizations that psychologists do oin that section.
22:28 < Zulard> sec ill google it for you
22:28 <@Dagmar> Probably a huge difference between your experiments and mine is that I kept notes.
22:29 <@Dagmar> So.  You have fun with whatever you decided it is.
22:29 < Zulard> I have entire notebooks with trip reporst
22:29 < Zulard> rofl
22:31 <@Dagmar> Don't care.
22:31 <@Dagmar> Erowid did not "prove" me wrong.
22:31 <@Dagmar> You fail.
22:32 < Zulard> Erowid proved you wrong
22:32 < Zulard> Truth.
22:32 <@Dagmar> No, it didn't.
22:32 < Zulard> Oh yes
22:32 < Zulard> google "Is peyote a dissociative?"
22:32 < Zulard> I'm on page 3 so far every website says no
22:32 <@Dagmar> You can do your own googling.
22:39 < dasunt> I'm disappointed Catonic right now.
22:39 < dasunt> It kind of gives me the warm fuzzies.
22:39 <@Dagmar> Either way it doesn't matter because it's entirely secondary to the fact that of all those, LSD and plain shrooms are the only two someone inexperienced with hallucinogenics are most likely to come out the other side without having run screaming down the street because they were convinced lemon weasels or some shit were after them.
22:40 < dasunt> Don't joke about lemon weasels.  Those are serious business!
22:40 <@brimstone> weasels have eaten our phone system
22:40 <@Dagmar> ...and if you have a problem with the lemon weasels I don't want to hear it
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22:41 < Zulard> Dagmar: ON that note, I agree with you
22:43 < dasunt> Dagmar: I tried to warn you, but you didn't listen.
22:43 < dasunt> :(
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22:44 <@jb7od> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative
22:45 <@jb7od> Also according to old wikipedia the main active ingredient in peyote is mescaline. One thing I'm noticing is that none of the listed dissociatives are naturally occuring. It doesn't say it HAS to be, but idk..
22:46 < Zulard> Fly agaric mushrooms are but I wasnt aware those were dissacoiatives
22:46 <@jb7od> Dagmar: You kept notes? uh.. I don't.. um i mean didn't.
22:46 < dasunt> I'm slightly dissassociative without drugs.
22:46 <@jb7od> cubenzas are all i know about
22:47 < Zulard> fuck I cant think of what im trying tothink of
22:47 < Zulard> the little mushrooms with red spots on them
22:47 < Zulard> amanita muscara or something
22:50 <@jb7od> In this life we're all given gifts. idk if i rank rooms among them. i ate an 8th once and fuckin wigged. i didn't trip again for 2 years. this coming from a being who ate 2-10 blotter hits a week easy for almost 4 years running.
22:51 <@brimstone> i like your slang, talk some more
22:52 < dasunt> WATCH OUT FOR THE LEMON WEASELS!
22:52 <@jb7od> i don't know if that's going to make me talk more or less.
22:54 <@ShadowHntr> THE LEMON WEASELS ARE COMING ! THE LEMON WEASELS ARE COMING !
22:54 <@jb7od> ours was snakes.
22:54 <@ShadowHntr> Don't joke about the lemon weasels ! You're not supposed to know about them !
22:54 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
22:54 < dasunt> Is buying extra ammunition joking?  I think not!
22:55 <@jb7od> "you mean there's snakes out there dis big?!" -Ice Cube
22:58 <@jb7od> i'm not sure i'm liking any of the research on wikipedia. it lists canabanol in psychedelics, dissacoiatives include ketamine and nitrous. idk...
22:59 <@jb7od> seems.. like they need notes.
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23:01 <@jb7od> they also have a breakout of mescaline compared to psylocybin and lsd that leaves me thinking less of peyote than the legend would have me believe.
23:02 < Zulard> mescaline isn't that great honestly
23:02 <@jb7od> not by itself, hell no it is not.
23:02 < Zulard> Thats what peyote is
23:02 < dasunt> I'd care, but I don't think that any of you are real.
23:03 <@jb7od> we had these lame little pellets once. if that's what it is, i really don't know how the hell you'd have a sundance on that right there.
23:03 <@jb7od> dasunt: i wish you were right.
23:04 < dasunt> jb7od: For an iota of my imagination, you seem a tad sad.  :(
23:05 <@jb7od> maybe so. bankruptcy court today. yay0r.
23:06 < dasunt> WHAT?
23:07 <@jb7od> TO ALL THE UNWED: The demon ring carries with it the power to DESTROY your MONEY.
23:08 < Zulard> Prenub
23:09 <@jb7od> AYE, listen to him.
23:09 <@jb7od> spouse sets mode -$
23:12 < dasunt> Prenups aren't 100% enforcable.
23:12 < dasunt> Although they help.
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23:18 <@jb7od> anybody in here know the real deal on no-competes in the State of Tennessee?
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23:26 <@Corydon76-dig> jb7od: http://www.tennesseelawblog.com/2007/10/tennessee_mornings_followup_tn.html
23:26 <@jb7od> tyvm, Corydon.
23:27 <@Corydon76-dig> In a nutshell, it appears that TN courts hold non-compete clauses to a high standard and strike down any overreach
23:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, and here's an interesting point.  If the employer broke any part of the employment contract, the court generally rules against the company on non-compete clauses
23:29 < dasunt> Cute.
23:32 <@jb7od> i feel strangely braver for having read that.
23:32 <@jb7od> thx
23:34  * jb7od gets ready flyers reading: "jb's christmas bail-out pc repair"
23:34 <@jb7od> well not quite
23:35 <@jb7od> but i shit u not- i don't know A SOUL in hw who does NOT work under the table, on the side, and or out of the trunk.
23:36 <@Corydon76-dig> With margins razor-thin, I'm not surprised.
23:36 <@jb7od> sw is a different matter because usually it seems individuals don't dane to work any more than they absolutely have to- it cuts into catharsis-time.
23:37 <@jb7od> you got that right about margins.
23:37 <@jb7od> the attitude has always been "be lucky (scared) you even have a job!"
23:39 <@jb7od> the good ppl leave, the noobs come in, everything is broken, the price is right, everybody complains except the shareholders- and that's who really matters..
23:39 < dasunt> Hardware repair is rediculously easy.
23:40 < dasunt> Actually, residential work (geek squad stuff) is easy.
23:40 <@jb7od> well i staggered into "solutions" in general there at the end.
23:40 < dasunt> Backup, wipe & reload solves 95% of the issues.
23:40 <@jb7od> LOL
23:40 < dasunt> O
23:40 < dasunt> I'm serious.
23:40 <@jb7od> ya i know it.
23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: you mean A+ repair work
23:40 < dasunt> Grab the driverpacks from driverpacks.net and reloads isn't that hard.
23:41 < dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Basically.  I do a lot of that at work lately.
23:41 < dasunt> But I'm a lazy fucker, so I've automated a lot of that task.
23:41 <@jb7od> i haven't reloaded over a problem but two in the past year.
23:42 <@jb7od> one was more virus than the user had time for
23:42 <@jb7od> the other was a sql database corruptathon.
23:42 < dasunt> jb7od: You aren't joe-blow who downloads and installs anything you see, and p2ps and prons in his free time.
23:42 <@jb7od> na
23:42 <@jb7od> i know who you mean though
23:42 <@jb7od> i used to do more of that.
23:43 <@jb7od> when i worked downtown that was the name of the game
23:43 < dasunt> Really, for the effort, wipe & reload works very well for residential and the vast majority of business desktops.
23:43 <@jb7od> i was told NOT to put in the love.
23:43 < dasunt> It's not worth the time.
23:43 <@jb7od> that's what i was told
23:43 <@jb7od> lol
23:43 < dasunt> It really isn't.
23:44 < dasunt> I can reload a machine in under an hour, assuming no backup is needed, and probably less than 5 minutes of that is in-front-of-the-machine time.
23:44 <@jb7od> but see now i have "cost avoidance" to consider so when i set a group back two months if they lose a test box hd, that getdataback really shines my sack up.
23:44 < dasunt> We image drives where I'm at if they ask for a backup.
23:45 < dasunt> Then copy the image back to the drive and restore the usual suspects (My Documents, mail, etcd)
23:45 <@jb7od> ghost is my boy. mkisofs if it's not.
23:45 < dasunt> Oh, then the rest of my job is mostly hand holding onsite.
23:45 <@Corydon76-dig> A+ repair work is just replacing modules.  But if you can solder a little, you can sometimes do repairs more cheaply
23:45 < dasunt> Y'know, for the problems that are trivial to solve if they could just debug it.
23:46  * jb7od needs a new iron.
23:46 <@Corydon76-dig> I know a hardware tech who took 4 inoperable printers and made 3 working printers from the parts and a little solder
23:46 <@Corydon76-dig> (all the same basic model)
23:46 < dasunt> Monday or Tuesday, I'll be driving 40 miles round trip just to fix a print-to-email problem on a commercial multifunction printer.
23:47 <@jb7od> i'm a+ and net+ and that's it on paper. oh oh and some lexmark XD
23:47 < dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Where I'm at, we tend to see bad caps on motherboards.  Most of the time, we can replace the machine with a faster machine for $250-299 (used Dell lease return).  At that price, removing the motherboard, yanking out the bad caps and soldering in new ones really doesn't make much sense.
23:48 <@jb7od> caps!!
23:48 < dasunt> jb7od: Anther thing -- know DOS.
23:48 <@jb7od> i know what ya mean!
23:48 < dasunt> Seriously.
23:48 <@jb7od> oh i know all 12
23:48 < dasunt> It seems like every other CNC place is still running DOS.
23:49 <@jb7od> i wrote an autoformatting mbr wiping beep on complete floppy for the recycler and a dos bootloader for my monkeylinux/dos toshiba satellite.
23:49 <@jb7od> "wrote" i mean scripted.
23:50 < dasunt> I also suggest looking at autoit3 and *shudder* vbscript.
23:50 < dasunt> And remember, good is often good enough, you don't need best.
23:50 <@jb7od> i have a vb that pulls serials from a wmi query that i use alot. i'm not handy with it, i fell out of love with vb6 when .net came out.
23:50 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: If you're talking about repair, sure.  But if you're talking about fixing a computer, so you don't have to buy another one, soldering is far cheaper
23:51 < dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Depends what you're charging for labor.
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> i.e. take parts that would other land in the dumpster, customers pay for the new parts that go in their systems, you get a new (used) system for a little solder work
23:51 < dasunt> You'd be surprised.
23:52 < dasunt> Perhaps with the shitty economy, it will change, but a lot of businesses dump 3 year old computers on the market for very little.
23:52 <@jb7od> on the clock ya. i used to get in trouble all the time for not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
23:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
23:52 < dasunt> And when you can get bulk used computers of all the same model with the same hardware, reloading one and imaging the rest is trivial.
23:53 <@jb7od> i was told i needed to be earning 4x what i was paid at any given time.
23:53 <@jb7od> in labor
23:53 < dasunt> Labor is where the money is at.
23:54 <@jb7od> there's money out there.
23:54 < dasunt> If you can get people to bring your machines to you, you're better off as well, IMO.
23:54 <@jb7od> hell yes
23:54 < dasunt> Because you can be working on a half dozen machines at one time easily.
23:55 <@jb7od> house calls are teh suX.
23:55 < dasunt> Charge 3x as much per hour for labor + trip.
23:55 < dasunt> And don't be surprised when someone will pay it.
23:55 <@jb7od> oh man old bossman sold me for $60/hr.
23:55 <@jb7od> in the shop
23:56 < dasunt> Damn, TN has cheap charges.
23:56 <@jb7od> that was in the used store
23:56 < dasunt> We charge much more, and we totally undercut Geek Squad's incompetence.
23:56 <@jb7od> i think geeksquad and shit is 90
23:56 < dasunt> Geeksquad gets way too much for their abilities.
23:56 <@jb7od> i ahve no idea what they get when i close a ticket.
23:57 < dasunt> OTOH, don't underestimate the satisfaction one can get from a job that you don't charge for.
23:57 < dasunt> I have one of those coming up.
23:58 <@jb7od> i would have no concept of what ppl get from them- i have to shoot out home setups for ppl working remote- that's a NOITEMARE
23:58 < dasunt> jb7od: Just call around and ask, pretending you are a customer.
23:58 <@jb7od> i know i'm making peanuts though.
23:59 <@jb7od> it will just reinforce my humility.
23:59 <@jb7od> lol
23:59 <@jb7od> humiliation rather
23:59 < dasunt> You're in IT.
23:59 < dasunt> You're a masochist.
23:59 <@jb7od> accepted.
23:59 < dasunt> A few weeks ago, my father stopped by for lunch.
23:59 < dasunt> So I headed out.
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