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00:21 <@Catonic> wizo?
00:26  * Catonic makes a spam quesadilla
00:26 < dasunt> ~weather 55025
00:27 < dasunt> !weather 55025
00:27  * dasunt forgets the syntax.
00:27 <@Catonic> mxzbot isn't here.
00:27  * dasunt pouts.
00:28 < dasunt> Only 30°F right now.
00:28 < dasunt> It feels colder.
00:31 <@Catonic> 34 here
00:31 < dasunt> You guys are in a cold snap.
00:31 < dasunt> One of the nice things about TN, the winters were mild.
00:33 < dasunt> Right now (our late fall) is about as bad as the TN winters.
00:34 < dasunt> Hmmm.  Looking at wikipedia, Nashville is actually warmer in December and January than Minneapolis is in November.
00:34 <@Catonic> drinkin?
00:37 < dasunt> Yep.
00:37 < dasunt> Drinking my life away.
00:37 < dasunt> Got my bike fixed up though.
00:37 <@scort> k
00:37 < dasunt> Used derailer #1 was not as successful as I hoped.
00:37 <@scort> what else is new
00:37 < dasunt> my laundry is done.
00:37 <@scort> and then?
00:37 <@scort> what? no life story?
00:37 < dasunt> Dishes are mostly washed.
00:38 < dasunt> Fucked a Thai hooker and helped smuggle drugs into Canada.
00:38 < dasunt> Y'know, the usual weekend chores.
00:41 < dasunt> Its kind of hillarious -- Juneau, Alaska is warmer than Minneapolis in winter.
00:48  * Catonic makes a note that dasunt like asians
00:52 < dasunt> Catonic: I like all types, as long as they are crazy.
00:56 <@Catonic>  lol
00:57 <@Catonic> "mother, have I ever missed one of your weddings?" "yes, the first one."
01:01 < dasunt> This one's for Catonic:
01:01 < dasunt> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/w4m/922207186.html
01:18 <@Catonic> funny, she's a porn star.
01:23 < dasunt> A non-legit personal ad on craiglist?  :o
01:23 < dasunt> Oh well, nap time.
01:23 < dasunt> G'night.
01:32 <@Catonic> The only thing you are entitled to in this life is your opinion.
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04:29 < TheLightcosine> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/15/cryptographic_hash_search_ruling/ <- w00t score 1 for the constitution
06:53 <@sdodson> That old doc is still around?
08:03 < TheLightcosine> yes despite bush's best efforts to shred it
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08:14 <@Shadow404> damn, that post was flagged for removal
08:18 <@I-MOD> yep
08:20 < TheLightcosine> heh
08:20 < TheLightcosine> damn trolls keep reposting it =P
08:21 < TheLightcosine> lol, i get a kick out of these jackasses claiming "windows 7 is going to kill Linux"
08:21 <@I-MOD> nah, it'll just kill vista
08:21 < TheLightcosine> they think that microsoft continuing to hold a larger market share is going to somehow make linux just go away
08:23 < TheLightcosine> besides which microsoft seems to be missing the point with the "os wars"
08:24 < TheLightcosine> microsoft is setting out to mkae a lexus with spinning gold rims, when what we need is a hybrid car with state of the art anti-theft system
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08:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: also, I can take someone to the gym to work out with without them having a membership so... pack your workout gear and a lock and give me yell when you want to go
08:27 < Peaches84> hello everyone
08:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> hey hey
08:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> did you have a good weekend?
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08:29 <@M0j0-j0j0> I had Friday off and ended up getting everything I wanted to do all weekend long done on Friday so mine was a little uneventful
08:31 <@M0j0-j0j0> I was supposed to spend the weekend gaming since I've not done it in about a year and I keep promising myself that I'll take a little me time but since my new TV didn't get delivered on Friday the way it was supposed to I was really kinda bummed out about my viewing situation
08:32 <@M0j0-j0j0> The green gun in my internal projection tv has a open somewhere in the circuit and I don't want to take it apart to fix it until I get its replacement in
08:33 <@M0j0-j0j0> I figured that it would be a nice early addition to the raleigh hacker space, but I don't seem to be able to get folks in the area to really join in on getting that started
08:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> I really want to avoid that "if this doesn't work out I'm going to have to sell my house and live here" moment that skyDog was talking about in the Nashville space.  He at least had some motion before having to make that call... I don't think I can just go do it on blind faith
08:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> anyways, I have to go straighten out my parking job and get some work done because I have a lot to do before I go back on vacation again
08:37 <@remoford> best of luck
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08:44 < Peaches84> hey mojo i did i worked
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10:12 < RJH00> Guten Tag
10:15 < R3d2Dawn> Danke
10:17 < RJH00> If you sneeze we got another
10:17 < RJH00> Shadow404: How's lvling coming along?
10:18 <@Shadow404> 71
10:18 <@Shadow404> Kazentite
10:18 <@Shadow404> (sp)
10:31 < TheLightcosine> anyone ehre know a lot about citirx by any chance?
10:31 < TheLightcosine> *citrix
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10:33 < RJH00> Shadow404: congrats you popped 70!
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10:33 <@Shadow404> i popped the lvl 70 cherry, persay, lawl
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10:46 < nated0g_wrk> morning
10:46 <@Neoteric> is there a way to dump postgres users and roles into a thing that can be restored easily?
10:47 <@brimstone> just dump the mysql database
10:47 <@Neoteric> brimstone: not very helpful
10:48 <@brimstone> bring up another server and let everything replicate over?
10:48 < nated0g_wrk> just have trimuph the insult dog poop on it
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11:18 <@sdodson> hi
11:18 <@brimstone> hi
11:18 <@sdodson> brimmy how you be?
11:18 <+SmthingPrductive> hi
11:19 <@sdodson> oh nos people
11:19 <+SmthingPrductive> yes... you don't get to be antisocial ;)
11:20 <@coil> hi
11:20 <@coil> http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s7/slayer320/Untitled-5.jpg could be considered nsfw but it's jsut text
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11:24 < das_work> What's the command to remove a port forward in IOS?
11:24 <@brimstone> copy run start
11:24 <@Drag0n> no in front of the line
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11:26 < das_work> Thanks.
11:26 <@coil> ~google whats he command to remove a port forward in ios
11:27 <@coil> ~google whats he command to remove a port forward in ios
11:27 <@coil> oh
11:27 <@coil> nm
11:28 < das_work> Google results suck, btw.
11:28 < nated0g_wrk> coil. that is a good one
11:29 <@coil> look harder
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11:31 <@coil> emopart
11:37 <@Shadow404> ok, qts can die in a fire
11:37 <@coil> same
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11:39 <+SmthingPrductive> Shadow404: Don't know what they did this time... but yeah I know! ;)
11:39 <@Shadow404> ip migration customers including dns
11:40 <@Shadow404> qts wont even talk to their old customers and we have to request their old zone files on their behalf
11:40 <+SmthingPrductive> oh snap... sounds like loads of fun
11:40 <@Shadow404> bleh
11:40 <+SmthingPrductive> they just had a big dns migration too iirc... probably don't know where the zone files are for them ;)
11:41 <@Shadow404> they do, just being asses to their old customers
11:41 <@Shadow404> stories of qts hanging up on them too
11:41 <@Shadow404> thats bs
11:42 < lamp_> iirc ->Interactive Illinois Report Card?
11:43 < polerin> if i recall correctly
11:44 <@Shadow404> idiots ignoring real calls
11:44 <@Shadow404> yep, thats qts
11:44 < lamp_> heh, I got it, I keep seeing it, I though it was something else for a long time
11:44 <+SmthingPrductive> lamp iirc=if I recall Correctly... polerin is not saying it's Interactive Illinois Report Card if he recalls correctly ;)
11:45 < polerin> SmthingPrductive: she, but yes.
11:45 <+SmthingPrductive> oh sh...ugar, sorry!
11:45 <@Lissa> heh
11:45 <+SmthingPrductive> Do I have to add you to my doghouse ratio list too? shucks...
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11:53 < polerin> nah
11:53 < polerin> If only that was close to the greatest of my concerns this week
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12:37 <+SmthingPrductive> heh, our VP of business development apparently got a call from a rep for a DR company... "I'm in your area, are you interested?".
12:37 <+SmthingPrductive> Of course he's in our area... he's based a mile away
12:38 < zadeaux> sales guys are always in the area
12:43 <+SmthingPrductive> I know... but these ones, if they don't have any in the area, they gots problems
12:43 < RJH00_WORK> Shadow404: QTS is sandbagging you because they are still pissed about the circuits for colo deal imho
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12:47 <+SmthingPrductive> Woohoo! Digikey supposedly shipped by beagleboard today! ;)
12:48 <+SmthingPrductive> s/by/my
13:37 < nated0g_wrk> what is a beagleboard?
13:42 <@Drag0n> a surfboard for a dog?
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14:17 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A2moFdM1Yo
14:17 <@sdodson> hi
14:17 < eryc> sup
14:18 <@coil> headache
14:18 <@sdodson> uh oh no
14:18 <@coil> no medicine either
14:18 <@coil> so watch out here i come
14:24 <+SmthingPrductive> nated0g_wrk: sorry, missed ya... http://beagleboard.org/  (a little demo was given at the last dc404)
14:26 <+SmthingPrductive> it's a 3" by 3" PCB with 600MHz processor, stereo in and out, HDMI out, svideo out, USB, RS232, SD slot, 128 RAM, 256 NAND
14:26 <@coil> buy me one
14:28 <+SmthingPrductive> if you buy me a night with Elliot Spitzer's call girl, I'll buy you a beagleboard
14:30 <@timoguin> SmthingPrductive: How much are those?
14:30 <+SmthingPrductive> timoguin: $150
14:30 <+SmthingPrductive> with $1.00 change
14:31 <+SmthingPrductive> http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/mkt/beagleboard.html
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14:31 <@Evilpig> anyone ever seen windows xp make a shortcut to IE everytime you click the IE icon ont eh desktop?
14:31 <+SmthingPrductive> a true shortcut? or just an icon for it?
14:32 <@Evilpig> using the windows created IE icon.  double click and bam.  "shortcut to internet explorer" appears on the desktop
14:32 <@coil> lolol
14:32 <@Evilpig> did it a few times just to be sure that was what was going on
14:32 <+SmthingPrductive> there's an option in Internet Options for Display Icon on Desktop (or some such), but it's not a "shortcut" (IE: a .lnk file) but is an embedded shell thing
14:32 <+SmthingPrductive> Evilpig: sure the control key or something isn't depressed?
14:33 <@Evilpig> yes I am sure
14:33 <+SmthingPrductive> weird, though... no I have not seen that...
14:33 <@Evilpig> I thought that option was under display then customize desktop
14:33 <@Evilpig> but I only see my computer, network places, recycle bin
14:33 <@Evilpig> oh and I just had to do a repair install on it
14:33 <+SmthingPrductive> hmm, interesting
14:33 <@Evilpig> wondering if it might have had part of IE7 on it before
14:34 <@Evilpig> just asked the chicky here and she said she used to have tabs in IE and SP3 still had IE6
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14:35 <+SmthingPrductive> I find that fondling the customer works wonders
14:35 <@Evilpig> she's not bad looking but i'll pass
14:35 <@Evilpig> I have enough problems.  and messing with a chick in a law office is just bad to begin with
14:36 <+SmthingPrductive> effin' ouch
14:36 <+SmthingPrductive> anyway... http://help.wugnet.com/windows2/desktop-icon-creates-shortcut-launching-brower-ftopict487381.html
14:37 <+SmthingPrductive> You need to change the File association to Open instead of Copy, to that you
14:37 <+SmthingPrductive> need to open the Windows Explorer then click Tools >> Folder Options >> File
14:37 <+SmthingPrductive> Type and there select HTML and click on Advanced Button, make sure under
14:37 <+SmthingPrductive> Actions:
14:37 <+SmthingPrductive> Open is the default Actions.
14:37 <@coil> lol
14:37 <@coil> pwnd
14:37 <@Evilpig> interesting
14:37 <@Evilpig> lemme look in there
14:38 < nated0g_wrk> IE 0wnz you
14:38 < nated0g_wrk> ha ha ha
14:38 <@Evilpig> i'm thinking this has more to do with IE7 files still on there with the OS having mostly IE6
14:41 <@Evilpig> found that entry and it was set to open
14:43 <+SmthingPrductive> Evilpig: http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2857428.php last entry
14:43 <+SmthingPrductive> actually... hold up
14:44 <+SmthingPrductive> http://iefaq.info/index.php?action=artikel&cat=24&id=31&artlang=en  might do it
14:44 <@Evilpig> just deleted it from the desktop.  went to readd it.  IE just isn't installed right causse the option isn't there to add it
14:44 <+SmthingPrductive> whatever
14:44 <@Evilpig> reinstalling 7 right now was just trying to fix it before that finished
14:44 <+SmthingPrductive> yeah, it seems pretty common
14:44 <+SmthingPrductive> jfgi 'ie creates shortcut'.... seems common, although I've never seen it
14:45 <+SmthingPrductive> then again, I all but quit Windows support just after XP SP1a
14:48 <@Evilpig> I just wanna get done.  go home and get my crack pipe out
14:48 <@Evilpig> errr uh WoW
14:48 <@I-MOD> same diff
14:48 <@Drag0n> at least crack has some value
14:48 <@coil> np: Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) - Allegro - Beethoven: String Quartets (Complete) Vol. 2 - 4:28
14:48 <+SmthingPrductive> ouch... you have a pipe dedicated to your crack? ehhh, sounds.... not too much like fun
14:49 <@I-MOD> you can sell your WoW stuff for real money, too. can't you?
14:49 <@Evilpig> only if you don't get caught
14:49 <@Drag0n> well, the same way with crack <g>
14:50 <@Evilpig> I'm all about sharing my "fun"  Drag0n, rhia you two want a friend invite yet?
14:51 <@Drag0n> nope, rhia doent game, and im addicted to a real mmo, EvE
14:51 <@Evilpig> at least with eve you can sell your crap and they don't care
14:52 <@Drag0n> they do, but not as enthusiasticaly
14:53 <@Drag0n> nothing in eve is as permanant
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15:10 < nated0g_wrk> how long is the friend invite for ?
15:16 <@Evilpig> 10 days I think
15:16 < nated0g_wrk> oh. nvm
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16:13  * M0j0-j0j0 wants to do bad things with you.
16:17 <@brimstone> i need an adult :(
16:18 <@Corydon76-lap> M0j0-j0j0: woohoo
16:18 <@Corydon76-lap> M0j0-j0j0: bad things like they describe in Playgirl magazine?
16:18 <@M0j0-j0j0> brimstone: Are you sure?
16:19 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-lap: no, like not commenting the code we write :)
16:22 <@Corydon76-lap> M0j0-j0j0: unfortunately, all the things they describe in Playgirl are all bottom fantasies, no top fantasies
16:24 <@M0j0-j0j0> not an avid reader, but I'll note it just in case I ever need a top fantasy story
16:26 <@Corydon76-lap> M0j0-j0j0: you'll note that you can't use Playgirl for that?
16:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> yeah
16:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-lap: might save me some time :)
16:28 <@Corydon76-lap> M0j0-j0j0: actually, you could take most straight anal fantasies, change some pronouns and names, and you'd have it
16:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-lap: Of course.. as I now find myself talking to a guys "-lap" I might find it useful sooner than later.
16:28 <@Corydon76-lap> lap is short for laptop
16:29 <@M0j0-j0j0> I know..
16:29 <@Corydon76-lap> just making sure
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16:31 <@Dagmar> M0j0-j0j0: So long as they don't start doing fucking -away nicks we're cool.
16:32 <@Dagmar> Nickname-away is a TMI problem.  It's only one step away from Nickname-fapping and we don't wanna fuckin' know about that.
16:33 <@M0j0-j0j0> sometimes naming becomes a real issue... we used to name every farm with a scheme but shortly after one of our admins sent out a corp. wide email with subject "Aphrodite keeps going down on me" we started seeing emails going out from hostname "orangutan" to one of our clients at BlackAmericaWeb so we changed our scheme to something less "catchy"
16:34 <@Dagmar> Wouldn't be a problem if your staff were all professionals.
16:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: we adopted a more professional naming scheme just for the CYA of it all
16:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> we also had a farm that was natural disasters and everyone kept asking to be moved off of because the didn't feel that it was stable
16:36  * brimstone pokes polerin
16:38 < polerin> brimstone: yes?
16:38 <@brimstone> cakephp in public_html
16:38 <@brimstone> did the rewritebase and it's still erroring
16:38 <@brimstone> any ideas?
16:38 < polerin> what error?
16:39 < polerin> got a live site?
16:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o polerin] by ChanServ
16:39 <@brimstone> not live, it's local
16:39 <@brimstone> can't find /~brimstone/css etc
16:39 <@polerin> it's not going to be /~brimstone/css/
16:39 <@polerin> it's going to be /~brimstone/app/webroot/css/
16:39 <@brimstone> yeah, it's app/webroot
16:40 <@brimstone> but that's the error in apache's error.log
16:40 <@polerin> are you seeing text come up?
16:40 <@brimstone> yes, text, but no css or iamges
16:40 <@brimstone> *images
16:40 <@polerin> mod rewrite?
16:41 <@brimstone> wait, i think that's it
16:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-lap: take note, this next bit is as close to the top fantasy as I can get ya
16:41 <@brimstone> as this is a fresh apache2 install
16:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: you want to go to the gym tonight?
16:41 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: by gym you mean blowjob right
16:41 <@polerin> brimstone: :)
16:41 <@brimstone> yup, that did it polerin
16:42 <@brimstone> apache2 under debian at least has limited mod_rewrite support by default
16:42 <@brimstone> i wish it didn't
16:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: all brits think that the american gym thing is completely gay
16:42 < TelcoBob> haha
16:42 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: where is this..gym you are going to?
16:43 < TelcoBob> its not one of those nonsmoking gyms is it? because thats gay :(
16:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: corner of BuckJones, Hillsborough, Western, and JonesFranklin
16:43 < TelcoBob> i want to look manly and cool while i beef up
16:43 < TelcoBob> ok, yea i know where that i s
16:44 < TelcoBob> i think
16:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: and I don't work out AT the sonic, but it is really close
16:44 < TelcoBob> hahaha
16:45 < TelcoBob> if that same chick is still working at the sonic...i could so get a work out
16:45 <@M0j0-j0j0> All the Sonic Girls have loose.... morals.
16:46 <@polerin> brimstone: join #cakephp
16:46 <@polerin> even if you're just idleing and watching the stuff, it'll help you not make some basic mistakes
16:46 <@polerin> and the channel is genrally really helpful.
16:46 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: if iwasnt recording an ep of HPR tonight with telcochick id go and be gay with you
16:46 <@polerin> brimstone: also ... http://slash7.com/assets/2007/2/12/layercake.png
16:49  * brimstone idles and toys with the 1.2 blog tutorial some more
16:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: thanks
16:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: besides.. you owe me an evening of hot male bonding anyways as you stiffed me the last time .. and that time I had booze waiting
16:50 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: yea, do you need a membership or anything? i was looking for a good reason to show off my manlyness
16:50 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: i know :(
16:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: I have a "black" card so I can have guest
16:50 < TelcoBob> grr i cant think of what to talk about, M0j0-j0j0 what would your perfect podcast featureing telcobob be about?
16:50 < TelcoBob> ah
16:50 < TelcoBob> sweet
16:51 < TelcoBob> yea ill definatly go next time
16:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: the spirituality of hacker culture
16:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> (aka how I pwned yer mom)
16:51 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: to new age haha
16:52 < TelcoBob> pwned your mom, that sounds about right
16:52 < TelcoBob> accually i was thoinking about doing an intro to phreaking, and working up from there, but telcochick wants to help...and her name is a lie
16:52 < TelcoBob> she doesnt know teh phones :(
16:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: too new age?  Comparing god and global religion to MVC is what it's all about
16:53 < TelcoBob> hah
16:53 < TelcoBob> there would be to many matrix referenceshah
16:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> ugg
16:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> why don't you go back a little further and talk about signal generation and logic circuits
16:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> why don't you put in the podcast how you and everyone else always get the history of the word hacker wrong
16:55 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: I Though about doing a diy synth serise, but id need a video cam for that
16:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> I got a cam
16:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> one on woot two days ago for like $120
16:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> do a segment on how hard it is to get people to start a hackerspace in raleigh
16:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> it's worse than my day job
16:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> how marriage is a legal form of bondage and how it should come with a warning label
16:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> and of course
16:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> how to hack the planet
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16:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm totally going to v-tape you at the gym
16:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> GodFix[HC]: not you... sorry... TelcoBob
16:59 < TelcoBob> hahahah you can if you want hahah
16:59 < TelcoBob> i had a video of me and irongeek benchpressing a while back
16:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> wow... I got on psychotic rampages like Charlie from Always Sunny in Philadelphia sometimes
16:59 < TelcoBob> omg M0j0-j0j0 we could podcast turning a little skrawny hx0r into a major beast
17:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> ... well he was bench pressing you.. right?
17:00 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: What he was benching weighted more than i
17:00 < TelcoBob> >_<
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17:00 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: bodyhaxors: Staroid that don't make you have a small pee pee
17:01 < TelcoBob> hahaha
17:02 < TelcoBob> no M0j0-j0j0 im serious, we should totally make me buff then the end of the season ill rechalenge irongeek
17:02 <@polerin> brimstone: I'm stepping out for a few, if you've questions let me know later :)
17:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> I can be the bookie and you can throw the fight in the 3rd round
17:03 < TelcoBob> hahaha
17:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: I'll splitz the $$ with ya
17:03 <@M0j0-j0j0> 60/40
17:03  * TelcoBob blares eye of the tiger
17:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: honestly.. you want really want to "pump you up"
17:04 < TelcoBob> hahahah i think it woudl be neat to see how hard it really is to gain muscle mass
17:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: one of my buds at the gym is this freakishly muscular guy who changed his major from compsci to nutrition and really might be able to help us out
17:05 < TelcoBob> jhahah that woudl be awesome
17:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: and I have a friend that has a body building blog
17:05 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: uyou have to many friends :(
17:05 < TelcoBob> hahaha
17:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> he's not all beefcake, as a matter of fact he's kinda small, but he's really really strong
17:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> he's a rock climber so...
17:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> yeah... I'll have to take care of that "friends" problem
17:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: you're off the list
17:06 <@M0j0-j0j0> ;)
17:06 < TelcoBob> :((
17:07  * M0j0-j0j0 gives TelcoBob a big gay huggles
17:07 < TelcoBob> hahah
17:07 < TelcoBob> wanna talk hard core though i took a 20 mile high in that storm ythe other day haha
17:07 < TelcoBob> and went climbing sans ropes haha
17:08 < TelcoBob> and i lost my wallet along with 200 $ and my debit card in the damn river
17:08 <@M0j0-j0j0> you part of TRC?
17:09 < TelcoBob> trc?
17:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> I've never tried Rockclimbbing.. I need to drop at least another 40 #s
17:09 < TelcoBob> trianfgle rock climbers?
17:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> Triangle Rockclimbbers Club
17:09 < TelcoBob> no, i normally dont climb, but i accually feel down a big ass rock face into the river and had to climb up haha
17:09 < TelcoBob> it was the scarest shit in my lifer
17:10 < TelcoBob> i had a survivalist weekend, me and pacifico went out the next day and hiked another 20 miles
17:10 < TelcoBob> and dined on the mussels we found in the river hahah it was awesome
17:11 < TelcoBob> trying to cook musscles with a light is a lot like freebasing coke, itburns your fingers, and you dont get alot
17:12 <@M0j0-j0j0> a light?
17:12 <@M0j0-j0j0> lighter?
17:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> or light bulb
17:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> (easy bake oven style)
17:13 < TelcoBob> lighter*
17:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> the easy bake would have been more extreem
17:15 < TelcoBob> hahah yea cause i carry thse when i go camping
17:15 <@Dagmar> Tards
17:15 <@Dagmar> You have a lighter but can't figure out how to BUILD A FIRE
17:15 <@Dagmar> Seriously, man.
17:16 <@M0j0-j0j0> see.. people with easy bake ovens start homes on fire all the time
17:16 < TelcoBob> Dagmar: dude it was pouring rain haha
17:16 <@M0j0-j0j0> at least until they changed the bulb to CF
17:16 < TelcoBob> and it started out as a joke
17:16 < TelcoBob> becasue i was just going to eat the shit raw, but pacifico  had to go and make a heroin joke
17:17 < TelcoBob> "you dont even need a spoon with this shit"
17:17 < TelcoBob> :-p
17:17 <@Dagmar> Well, at least they didn't come from the polluted waters of TN
17:18 < TelcoBob> hah georgias just as bad in places the chatahoochie scares me
17:18 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: hey ill be back ina bit, i need toget some cigs, but this gettign telco fit seems like something that would be on fox, so im interested
17:18 <@Dagmar> Time for me to have a cigarette before I am forced to brutally murder someone
17:20 <@Drag0n> the latter is always a viable opption with the right person
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17:25 < GodFix[HC]> http://nashville.craigslist.org/tch/923041330.html
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17:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> To: ashley@anonymousemailprovidedabove
17:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> Sign me up
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17:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> Yeah, if he totally turns into a beefcake I think we have to make him change his nick to TelcoThrob
17:34 < TelcoBob> hahaha
17:34 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: then wed need queer eye for the telcoguy
17:36 < TelcoBob> speaking of fashion im going to go out and get me some buddy holly glasses, not sure how im going to look but im ready for a change
17:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> that would be cool... finally get you lookin all dapper dan
17:36 < TelcoBob> and i think im going to start keeping my hair a bit shorter again
17:36 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: psh you should have seen me back in my pompadour days
17:37 < TelcoBob> im so feeling a total transformation :-p
17:38 < TelcoBob> but M0j0-j0j0 i am planning on getting this fairly soon hahah http://www.daddyos.com/retro/au21.html   it like the greatest shirt ever made
17:38 < TelcoBob> along with this http://www.daddyos.com/retro/epr8.html
17:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> the first one is really hot
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17:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> you can get it in XXL for fat elvis
17:52 < TelcoBob> hhahah
17:53 < TelcoBob> well i must go shower bbl
17:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> gay
17:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> I mean that in the best possible way
18:07 <@Corydon76-lap> You mean he likes man meat in his hole?
18:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> I mean he's happy
18:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> showers always make TelcoBob gay
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18:18 <@Corydon76-lap> M0j0-j0j0: that's not the best way to take it, though
18:19 <@Corydon76-lap> Best way to take it would be as a bottom fantasy in Playgirl magazine
18:19 <@Corydon76-lap> Totally, unbelievably hot
18:20 <@M0j0-j0j0> well, maybe when I get the video camera out at the gym with TcB it'll end up being hot bottom pron
18:20 <@Dagmar> ...or raw, unexpurgated violence against the guy who brought a camera into the gym.
18:20 <@M0j0-j0j0> and if it isn't I'm totally going to edit it so that it is anyways
18:20 <@Dagmar> CNN'll pay top dollar for that.
18:21 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: I work for the press so... it really shouldn't be an issue
18:21 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: people have made videos at my gym before
18:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> they seemed pretty gay too.
18:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> and happy
18:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> oh, btw... does anyone have a bunch of money that would like to contribute to the hackerspace project?
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18:24 <@M0j0-j0j0> we're really close to getting the ball rolling... I think all we need is a lot of money, and bunch of people willing to work really hard for free and someone who will rent to us in a prime location for.. free
18:24 < TelcoBob> hahaha
18:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> if it's a nice place... all the better
18:25 <@Dagmar> Or, you know, to just leave the stuff in people's homes and set up a great big vlan
18:25 <@M0j0-j0j0> or, and from the RFP: it must have access to a bathroom and be accessible 24/7
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18:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> any of you guys in TriLUG or PM?
18:26 < TelcoBob> PM?
18:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> PerlMongers
18:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> IGDA?
18:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> anyone?
18:27 <@M0j0-j0j0> Builer?
18:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> I worry a little bit about the IGDA.... they might end up being a bunch of loafers and that would be worse than not having a space at all
18:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> Please remove your x-box playin smelly hippie out of my way so I can finish the mod I'm working on for my car so I can go home.  And place don't smoke pot in the lab
18:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> s/place/please/
18:31 <@M0j0-j0j0> for a "chat" room, I seem to spend a lot of time talking to myself
18:31 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: fewd time
18:32 <@M0j0-j0j0> either I suck that bad... or you suck that bad... either way... you'll need to adjust
18:32 <@Dagmar> So, anyone heard anything about any anti gay marriage protests in Nashville?
18:32 <@Dagmar> I think I have someone willing to loan me a big-ass megaphone
18:32 <@Dagmar> :)
18:33 <@Dagmar> The idea of being able to call a bunch of bigots, bigots right to their faces, makes me hard.
18:33 <@M0j0-j0j0> to they are protesting non-gay marriage?
18:33 <@rhia> dunno about Nash, but Peoria had about 40 people show for a prop-8 protest
18:33 <@Dagmar> No, but they should be carping about non-gay divorce first, IMHO
18:34 <@Dagmar> rhia: Good for them
18:34 <@Dagmar> This is a wack situation
18:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: in deed
18:34 <@Dagmar> California not only fucked up beyond belief by not having anyone involved who knows enough of their own damn gov't rules and procedures to know that a simple majority vote can't make the change they wanted...
18:35 <@Dagmar> ...but they've basically brought things right to a "separate but equal" situation.
18:35 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: but I think the truth of the matter is that over time .. it really won't matter.
18:35 <@Dagmar> Like, hey hey welcome to the 60's.  They were so much fun we'll do 'em again, starting with the excess stupid.
18:36 <@rhia> Dagmar: well, we've got that whole unpopular war backdrop for it - and a whole group of people to deny rights
18:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> it's like racism... it's a problem, but it isn't a sustainable issue
18:36 <@Dagmar> I just know I'm getting *real* sick of hearing the religious nuts on the radio and news carping endlessly
18:36 <@rhia> tie-dye and plaid are even back
18:36 <@Dagmar> ...and no one's calling them what they are... BIGOTS
18:37 <@rhia> oh, they're being called that, just not via the media
18:37 <@Dagmar> That fat fuck on 99.7 just got another email to the station manager from me today, in the five minutes I had them on
18:37 <@Dagmar> He said outright that black people voting for Obama was racism.
18:38 <@M0j0-j0j0> well, I'm sure that for some people race was an important factor
18:38 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: wanna do me a big favor and ill pay you back in hookers?
18:38 <@Dagmar> rhia: See, this is why I think an opinionated asshole with a megaphone and startlingly clear diction and oration skills should call them bigots to their faces as a group.
18:38 <@rhia> the media, which has a high percentage of LGBTQ people working, but old idiots owning
18:38 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: who told you I want to bang all these skanky hookers
18:38 <@Dagmar> M0j0-j0j0: Same fat asshole was also saying that voting for Obama was somehow sinful
18:38 < TelcoBob> rhia: whats the q for?
18:38 <@rhia> questioning
18:39 <@Dagmar> rhia: If I make a bunch of bigoted fundies riot, it'll make news.
18:39 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: ...everyone likes em. but do you have a book store near you?
18:39 <@Dagmar> Remember, this is my "special skill".
18:39 <@Dagmar> My mutant power, if you will.
18:39 <@Dagmar> I can make people angry beyond reason.  :)
18:39 <@Dagmar> Gimme a megaphone and 15 minutes where I can see them, and I'll have people howling for my head on a stick.
18:40 <@rhia> Dagmar: of course blacks voting for Obama is racist - to anyone who ONLY sees the world in black & white - but, um, doesn't that make all the WHITE people who voted for, oh, every candidate before, including McCain, "racist"? ;)
18:40 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: like an adult bookstore?
18:40 <@Dagmar> rhia: See, you think logically.  These other people don't.
18:40 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: no like a normal bookstore
18:40 <@Dagmar> It is their lack of adherence to logic that will cause them pain.
18:40 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: poppers??? really?
18:40 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: oh
18:40 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: I guess... why?
18:41 < TelcoBob> im grately in need of the book dancing skeletons  by dettwyler for school, but i cant leave the house, i have to take care of the grandpararents
18:41 <@Dagmar> I find hardcore fundies arguing that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry, on religious grounds, NOT saying a thing about heterosexual divorce, to be just too good to pass up.
18:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: just wait for them to all lie off.. that is my plan... my grandma was racist and she kicked it... some day my dad will too
18:41 <@Dagmar> I'm still working on a few of the smaller pieces, but I think I've almost got a five-minutes-til-the-riot-starts bit put together.
18:41 <@Drag0n> can we help encourage it?
18:42 <@Drag0n> the diying off part
18:42 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to work in some good ol' nazism analogies
18:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> s/lie/die
18:42 <@sdodson> hi!
18:42 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: think you could help a brotha out?
18:42 <@rhia> Dagmar: one bit of encouraging news, Focus on the Family is having massive layoffs
18:42 <@rhia> Dagmar: the Nazi's gave you Plenty of ammo for that one
18:43 <@Dagmar> Oh yes
18:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> "Dancing Skeletons" by dettwyler
18:43 <@Dagmar> Sooo sooo delicious
18:43 <@Dagmar> I'm looking for something more subtle than pink triangles
18:43 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: yea, ifd love you forever, if i could pick it up tomorrow
18:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: a penis hat?
18:43 < TelcoBob> ill so buy you a big ass dinner after this next paycheck haha
18:44 < TelcoBob> Dagmar: a seceret handshake?
18:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: will Borders have it?
18:44 <@Dagmar> M0j0-j0j0: No, seriously.  One of the tricks to making someone really mad is to get them going with you down a road that is completely wrong
18:44 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: i dunno
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18:45 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure the masses of this type in Nashville would be educated enough to see they were one step away from asking for walk-in cremation ovens tho
18:45 <@sdodson> Dagmar: cool!
18:45 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: I'll call you when I get to the store.. leavin here in about 15 anyways
18:45 <@Dagmar> It somewhat defeats the point if they're so stupid they don't see where it's going.  Then you've just got assholes cheering you.
18:45 < TelcoBob> i migh have to run to ever bookstore in the city haha, but its created an uber anxiety attack, i didnt realize that the test on it was thursday
18:45 <@rhia> Dagmar: pink triangles could also win you a no expense trip to the lovely secure public housing escorted by the SS  - just like yellow stars
18:45 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: yoru my hero <3
18:45 <@sdodson> TelcoBob: wtf are you looking for?
18:46 <@Dagmar> rhia: Yeah, but the pink triangles are really overt
18:46 < TelcoBob> sdodson: a book for class, but i cant leave the house for many really anooying reasons
18:46 <@sdodson> TelcoBob: you arrested?
18:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> hahha
18:46 <@sdodson> Been hanging out with pacifico too much.
18:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> busteder
18:46 <@rhia> just needed  blue moons and green clovers
18:47 < TelcoBob> sdodson: nah, shits gone to hell here, everyones in the damn hospital and i have a damn research proposal for a grant commity tomorrow
18:47 <@Dagmar> I could go strictly for the separate-but-equal tip, but it's just not going to make white people angry enough
18:47 < TelcoBob> and my spelling is dieing :(
18:47 <@sdodson> TelcoBob: Be sure to spellcheck it.
18:47 <@Dagmar> ...and it's the white people I need to torment.
18:47 < TelcoBob> sdodson: its spoken hahaso i should be good
18:47 <@polerin> Dagmar: and you'll piss off the black population too
18:47 <@Dagmar> Not because they're white, but because *I'm* white.
18:47 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: so... I can go get the book if they have it... but how are you going to get it from me?
18:47 <@sdodson> Dagmar is white?
18:47 <@polerin> Dagmar: they don't exactly see eye to eye with that discussion (not do neccisarily do I)
18:48 <@remoford> "Dagmar: ...and it's the white people I need to torment." - isnt that just a bit racist?
18:48 <@Dagmar> polerin: Yeah, but deliberately pissing off a lot of black people as a white guy tends to get you beaten to death as a racist.
18:48 <@Dagmar> remoford: No, it's not.
18:48 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: i can get it tomorrow sometime, i just wanted to make sure that a copy was gotten
18:48 <@rhia> Dagmar: agreed tho, as most of the far right's are pro-Israel (if only those damned jews would all move there) but anti catholic and VERY anti gay --- and have NO clue as to anything about "pink triangles"
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18:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: but I not here tomorrow
18:48 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: i was afriad id get so worked up in everythign else (as i tend to do) and totally forget hah
18:48 <@Dagmar> rhia: Yeah, which is why it sucks that pink triangles seem to be a dead end
18:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: have to be at home so I can get my TV delivered
18:48 <@sdodson> WTF are pink triangles?
18:48 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: well where is home?
18:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: Dolemite is white?!
18:49 <@polerin> rhia: they aren't pro israel because of the holocaust
18:49 < TelcoBob> sdodson: its liek a teletubbie
18:49 <@rhia> polerin: well aware
18:49 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: Yes, but not dagmar.
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18:49 <@Drag0n> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle
18:49 <@rhia> polerin: as many far right nutjobs are also the survivalist neo-nazi's
18:50 <@polerin> rhia: more than that it's just a biblical argument :P
18:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: Smithfeild
18:50 <@sdodson> OMFG THERES A FLASH 10 PLAYER FOR X*^_^$!
18:50 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: accually i have to go to clayton anyway, if you wouldnt mind
18:50 <@rhia> polerin: many of who deny the holocaust ever happened but GAWD can't return unless there are jews in israel .... sigh
18:50 <@sdodson> x eighty six sixty four
18:51 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: It's a trap.
18:51 < TelcoBob> sdodson: psh for once telcobob is being serious >_<
18:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: Flash 10 for X or naked dancing skeletons?
18:51 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: Yes. And x86_64
18:51 <@sdodson> Even on loonixz
18:52 <@polerin> rhia: another transwoman died last week :(
18:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> so they are both a trap?
18:52 <@polerin> well, two of them did, but another after duanna johnson
18:52 <@polerin> :(
18:52 <@sdodson> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/11/now_supporting_16_exabytes.html
18:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> polerin: only one?
18:53 <@Dagmar> rhia: Just in case you get any ideas, the strongest current to put to use in this seems to be to point out to them that the free erecise clause of the 1st amendment would mean that we can't ban homosexual marriage without grounds for homosexuality being declared an extreme practice and made illegal
18:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> anyways
18:53 <@Dagmar> From *there* you can run them to the camps argument
18:53 <@Dagmar> It's a complete doddle.
18:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: are you in Raleigh?
18:54 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: He's in my trunk.
18:54 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: wake forest
18:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: is your caravan in Raleigh?
18:54 <@Dagmar> Get 'em cheering, show them their goals are your goals, and then show them the simple and straightforward way to achieve their goals, which is to simply start putting homosexuals in camps where they can do what tehy like
18:54 <@rhia> Dagmar: weave that back on religion being extreme - nm, too many of us might actually agree with that roundup
18:54 <@sdodson> Dagmar: You're such a trickster.
18:55 <@Dagmar> ...then when they're at that oh-so-crucial moment, of thinking that they're actually contemplating putting a substantial number of people in grave danger and harm...
18:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: that would be the cleanest and nicest decorated camp in town
18:55 <@rhia> polerin: shit =(
18:56 <@Dagmar> ...that's when you let them know that's what makes them BIGOTS.
18:56 <@Dagmar> If they don't like the idea of being bigots, and they're not real bright, they experience pain.
18:56 <@Dagmar> You win.
18:56 <@Dagmar> ...and it's probably time to start running.
18:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: actually, gay people tend to stick to one area anyways... gaybourhoods  :)
18:57 <@Dagmar> But gay people could be ANYWHERE
18:57 <@Dagmar> How can you tell?
18:57 <@Dagmar> They could look JUST LIKE YOU AND I and you'd never know it!
18:57 <@sdodson> They're the ones with their dick in your ass.
18:57 <@rhia> Dagmar: i know, they look just like us! oh the horror!
18:57 <@Dagmar> They're SNEAKY
18:57 <@sdodson> THATS how you tell.
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18:58 <@Dagmar> This is why you have to look closely and find out who's gay and hiding it
18:58 <@rhia> sdodson: that's the way many of the public figure far right have discovered them <g>
18:58 <@Dagmar> If they're not gay, they've got nothign to hide
18:58 <@Dagmar> See how this kind of argument works?
18:58 <@sdodson> Dagmar: You mean in a flawed manner, ya i see.
18:58 <@rhia> Dagmar: yeah - McCarthyism
18:59 <@Dagmar> Exactly.
18:59 <@Dagmar> LIke making a kid smoke an entire pack of cigarettes so that he gets sick, if you give people an extra heaping helping of the hate they're doling out, they will suffer.
19:00 <@sdodson> omg WKNC has some station identifier where they flip the balance back and forth like telcobob during a light switch rave, makes my head hurt.
19:01 <@remoford> you need to get to the root of the cause tho, the baptists (and other assorted christian sects)
19:01 <@Dagmar> Hence, making a bunch of bigots riot.
19:01 < TelcoBob> sdodson: ha!
19:01 <@Dagmar> ...because those people will go back to their churches, and the subject will come up.
19:02 <@rhia> remoford: fear &  ignorance -- spread those --> hatred & bigotry
19:02 <@Dagmar> People are going to have to sit and think about what they've been proposing and saying instead of just feeling all worm and comfy in their "everyone at my church feels the same way" nests
19:02 <@remoford> preachers generally try to squash that sort of thing
19:03 <@remoford> "Dagmar: People are going to have to sit and think about what they've been proposing" - AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
19:03 <@remoford> i need to introduce you to some of the uber christians
19:03 <@remoford> i assure you that will never happen
19:03 <@Dagmar> remoford: I guarantee you that most preachers don't just spew out dogma all day
19:03 <@Dagmar> They try to use reasoned arguments when reasoned questions come up
19:04 <@rhia> Dagmar: most don't, but the ones that DO - hooboy
19:04 <@sdodson> It's almost as if he believes the words coming out of his mouth.
19:04 <@Dagmar> It's not all catholics and episcopalians out there
19:04 <@rhia> they spread more than enough for everyone
19:04 <@remoford> i think you have me wrong there, preachers try to keep their congregations away from those sort of discussions
19:04 <@remoford> as they know its divisive
19:04 <@Dagmar> remoford: Which means they're going to have a bunch of people who are going to be wondering why their pastor doesn't want to talk about this
19:04 <@remoford> and the ones that stay dont contribute as much money as all the ones that leave
19:04 <@rhia> episcopalians rarely spread anything but cheese on wheat thins
19:05 <@Dagmar> Why, they were out there doing God's work, or so they thought.
19:05 <@sdodson> http://giveupandusetables.com/
19:05 <@remoford> but see here is the thing
19:05 <@Dagmar> If you want to change a mind that doesn't want to change, you have to cause it pain.
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19:05 <@remoford> you want to use cognitive dissonance against these people
19:05 <@remoford> they thrive on it, give it a name and worship it
19:05 <@Dagmar> Make it more painful to maintain the paradoxical or illogical behaviour than to actually sit and think and make a decision
19:07 <@remoford> all it does is prop up thier "faith". you are simply a tempter, a tester from the devil
19:07 <@Dagmar> "simply"?
19:07 <@remoford> yes
19:07 <@remoford> the moderate christians yes
19:07 <@remoford> and they know and dont act this way
19:07 <@Dagmar> At the end of the day, some of them will drop their signs and go home.
19:07 <@rhia> Dagmar: one caveat - these people don't 'think' - if you speak anything against what Gawd says, yer speaking with Satan's tongue
19:07 <@Dagmar> Some of them will decide I *am* the devil.
19:08 <@Dagmar> Clearly, it so hurts me to be thought of as the devil.
19:08 <@remoford> but the serious ones you are concerned with, they are mentally ill. you are not going to break their delusions with logic
19:08 <@rhia> and if you're speaking devil stuff, then its a sin to listen, let alone think about, what you say
19:08 <@Dagmar> remoford: Yeah, but I can *always* break their self-control.
19:08 <@remoford> possibly
19:09 <@remoford> that may well get you killed tho
19:09 <@Dagmar> I can run like the fuckin' wind, yo
19:09 <@Dagmar> "Run early, run often." -- Rincewind.
19:10 <@rhia> remoford: the way to jump that Gawd fence is to either walk around the end of it or plow right over it
19:10  * Dagmar chants, "Plow!  Plow!  Plow!"
19:10 <@remoford> rhia: you mean send them to the camps?
19:10 <@Dagmar> Not camps, _farms_
19:10 <@remoford> i belive we were just bashing that approach
19:11  * remoford polishes the cognitive dissonance mirror
19:11 <@rhia>  hit them with the historical logic of what happens when a group is denied rights and thenconfront them head on with their bigotry for Being the ones denying the rights
19:11 <@rhia> remoford: um.... where'd you get camps from what i said?
19:12 <@remoford> from "plow right over it"
19:12 <@remoford> as far as denying rights
19:12 <@remoford> you will find that they belive they are being persucuted everywhere
19:12 <@remoford> in the schools the streets
19:12 <@remoford> omg omg someone said evolution to my kid
19:12 <@rhia> remoford: um ...... not in the least
19:13 <@remoford> im not saying thats how it is
19:13 <@remoford> its how they see it
19:13 <@Dagmar> This is why you lead them down the path of logic they'd actually be following if they could take their heads out of their asses long enough to do it.
19:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: are you saying I could be gay?
19:14 <@remoford> but you arent asking them to change thier mind about the brand of pant they wear
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19:14 <@rhia> the only way to get past the Gawd section is to skirt it entirely "McCarthyism, concetration camps: deny rights == bad" or go Right Thru It - "Jesus wasn't a bigot, why are you?"
19:14 <@remoford> you are askign them to invalidate their whole belief system
19:14 <@Dagmar> M0j0-j0j0: No, but I'm not going to be the one to tell you that what you've been feeling is wrong.
19:15 <@remoford> rhia: well, if the fundies were all about the new testament then that would be a pretty damn good argument
19:15 <@rhia> remoford: the plow statement did not come close to eluding "camps"
19:15 <@Dagmar> M0j0-j0j0: Do you see the trick in play there?
19:16 <@remoford> rhia: no it didnt
19:17 <@remoford> what im saying here is arguing w/ this group is counter productive
19:17 <@Dagmar> remoford: Hence, a bullhorn is necessary.
19:17 <@remoford> how is making your arguments louder going to help?
19:18 <@Dagmar> Not for the volume, but for the _mode_ it places the "conversation in, which is a one-way thing while merely *appearing* to be a conversation/argument.
19:18 <@rhia> actually, i think the best way is to grassroots the hell out the situation, get moderate christians willing to go public - often and loudly, Denouncing the idiocy as being false teachings -
19:18 <@Dagmar> Kinda like how the TV and news media work.
19:18 <@Dagmar> This is why you get them to settle into a mode of passivity by starting with *their own* arguments.
19:18 <@Dagmar> You show them that your values are their values
19:19 <@remoford> rhia: this has happened before w/ the prodestent reformation
19:19 <@Dagmar> That your beliefs are their beliefs.
19:19 <@Dagmar> That they want the same things you do.
19:19 <@remoford> however, back then you have lots of the same church
19:19 <@remoford> nowadays ppl just go to a church they agree with
19:19 <@rhia> dig up enough of them, grassroot onslaught the media enough to Have to cover them - make MSM realize that NO, the only "story" the public wants to see (and be exposed to their advertising) isn't the nut jobs
19:19 <@Dagmar> ...and that you have figured out how to make what they want happen, happen.
19:19 <@Dagmar> It's *WAY* easier to do this to a crowd than just 2-3 people.
19:19 <@Dagmar> Try it in a bar sometime
19:20 <@Dagmar> Anything above 6-7 people, they tend to start reacting as a crowd because it would be too chaotic for them to delve into any specifics
19:20 <@remoford> i really dont suggest you try this with a real church unless you want to end up dead
19:20 <@sdodson> In that case, PLEASE TRY IT!
19:20 <@rhia> remoford: started as a convo about street corner protesting
19:21 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: that's really great, but SunTzu does it better
19:21 <@Dagmar> I've read him.
19:21 <@remoford> rhia: ?
19:21 <@rhia> no one said walk into a church and start proselytizing
19:21 <@Dagmar> Do that and preacherman will get angry thinkin' you're trying to pinch offa his flock
19:22 <@rhia> this whole chatter has been about protesting bigotry and protesting denial of rights
19:22 <@Dagmar> Ya gotta catch 'em "in the wild"
19:22 <@rhia> Dagmar: heh
19:22 <@remoford> Dagmar: damn skippy
19:23 <@rhia> Dagmar: wonderful place to catch a couple would be coming out of adult toy shops or gay bars ;)
19:23 <@Dagmar> Did you happen to make the mistake of asking NotLarry about the penguin at Phreaknic?>
19:23 <@Dagmar> rhia: A couple's no good.
19:23 <@Dagmar> They'll find it too easy to walk off
19:24 <@Drag0n> thats what camera's are for
19:24 <@Dagmar> This is why I was inquiring if anyone's heard anything about a protest of fundies
19:24 <@remoford> i thikn you and dag are talking about too diff things
19:24 <@rhia> Dagmar: oh, if you can get a couple deacons, preachers on film - helps with the whole hypocrisy of bigotry argument
19:24 <@rhia> Dagmar: bullhorn, plus VIDEO (or at least pics) hehe
19:24 <@remoford> rhia is talking about organizing teh gays and dag is talking about inciting thier opponents
19:24 <@rhia> remoford: um .... no, again
19:25 <@Dagmar> Man I think it would be awesome to get a crowd cheering and then lead them to the "LET'S PUT THOSE FAGS INTO CAMPS" bit, just to get the audio of the crowd backpedaling in disarray
19:26 <@remoford> Dagmar: was that not what you were talking about, standing up in front of the crowd, drawing them in w/ pseudo arguemnts then turning it around on them?
19:26 <@Dagmar> ...and then put it up on YouTube so everyone could see.
19:26 <@remoford> ok, pretty much. rhia i dont know what you are/were talking about but thats were dag and i are talking about
19:26 <@rhia> remoford: just brainstorming ways of effectively calling bigots bigots - and hopefully breaking thru enough Gawd Fence in their poor little heads to change some of their blind followers thoughts
19:27 <@remoford> anyways, i think this is a great idea
19:27 <@remoford> yall wont really convert anyone w/ these methods
19:27 <@remoford> but it might make for a hell of a channel 5 news special
19:27 <@Dagmar> No, we'll just make the people who were actually on the fence about it, but were riding along out of a sense of sheepleism put down their signs and go home.
19:28 <@remoford> wait a sec
19:28 <@rhia> Dagmar: exactly
19:28 <@remoford> the ppl out marching around w/ signs
19:28 <@Dagmar> Never attack the core.  Always wear away the fringe.
19:28 <@remoford> are on the fence?
19:28 <@Dagmar> remoford: Suprisingly, yes.
19:28 <@remoford> huh
19:28 <@Drag0n> because everyone knows, the fundies hate fringe
19:28 <@Dagmar> There's always people who bring extra signs.
19:28  * Drag0n ducks
19:29 <@rhia> remoford: many of those carrying signs are doing so as part of "group activity" - if you ask them question beyond the sign, they dunno
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19:29 <@rhia> questions, rather
19:29 <@sdodson> They may not know but I doubt you're going to change their mind.
19:29 <@remoford> i wouldve guessed that the moderate christians are at work or taking care of their kids or doign other normal people stuffs
19:29 <@Dagmar> Just like you can stand in front of people and get them electrified and excited to cheer for things they wouldn't if they stopped and thought about it a moment, you can get someone to hold a sign that they don't /entirely/ believe in pretty easily just because it's available
19:30 <@Dagmar> Didn't you hear about hte stunt that the King Of All Media pulled?
19:30 <@rhia> esp the younger ones - the ones who haven't ever HEARD a different side - never had the thought process of what they've been fed Followed Thru
19:30 <@Dagmar> Theres some folks saying it was a dirty racist trick, but it would work with white people just as easily
19:30 <@rhia> Dagmar: and groupthink - never underestimate groupthink
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19:30 <@Dagmar> I *count* on it
19:30 <@rhia> Dagmar: yeup
19:31 <@remoford> you might have some pull w/ the younger ones
19:31 <@remoford> but i doubt you really get many moderates protesting anythign for any reason
19:31 <@rhia> remoford: any progress that wears down that front
19:31 <@Dagmar> I'm looking for a video... gimma a minute
19:31 <@Dagmar> You'll see how this works
19:31 <@Drag0n> yeah, what she said
19:31 <@rhia> remoford: the moderates watch the news - you get the fringe rioting, that makes news - that was what dag first mentioned
19:32 <@Dagmar> OKay here we go
19:32 <@sdodson> THATS WHAT SHE SAID! OOOH BURN!
19:32 <@Dagmar> This is the same thing, just on a small scale: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU
19:32 <@M0j0-j0j0> peace love and chicken grease y'all
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19:32 <@Dagmar> IF those people had thought about it for a moment, they'd have realized they had been had.
19:33 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Omg, sort of like how palin said "mmmkay" when asked about Nail'n Palin?
19:33 <@Dagmar> The mention of Sarah Palin should have been a giveaway, but they were in the "yes" mode so it was too late
19:33 <@Dagmar> You can do this with crowds MUCH more easily than individuals.
19:33 <@remoford> perhaps both effects are true
19:34 <@sdodson> you don't think someone in the crowd would hear them and say "uhm, no."
19:34 <@Drag0n> yeap, a person is smart, people are idiots
19:34 <@Dagmar> Now, if they *didn't* riot it would mean either I failed, or a lot more people are interested in slaughtering homosexuals than we thought
19:34 <@remoford> blacks really WERE voting for obama cause he was black and white ppl voted against him cause he was black
19:34 <@remoford> at the same time
19:35 <@Dagmar> remoford: I didn't vote against him
19:35 <@rhia> so what about the whites that voted for him?
19:35 <@remoford> i didnt say all
19:35 <@Corydon76-lap> I didn't vote against him, either
19:35 <@remoford> but i dont see how one negates teh other
19:36 <@Corydon76-lap> remoford: in any significantly large sample, you can find individuals that attempt to flap their arms, jump off buildings, and fly.  That doesn't say anything about the likelihood of humans to attempt to fly.
19:36 <@Dagmar> ...or whether we're likely to develop that ability
19:36 <@sdodson> You guys are willfully oblivious.
19:36 <@rhia> blacks didn't come out for Jesse Jackson in anywhere those numbers - so, just Being black wasn't the Only reason all those blacks voted for him
19:37 <@remoford> Corydon76-lap: so which of the two do you think was the insignifigant effect then?
19:37 <@Dagmar> At any rate, REAL fucking men can fly without having take off "assistance".
19:37 <@Corydon76-lap> remoford: I think people vote their ideology more than they vote their race
19:37 <@Dagmar> Like I always told the people I did LSD with, "if you can really fucking fly, you should be able to walk outside and just go from ground level.  Only pansies need anything more than a running start and a flat stretch of ground."
19:37 <@remoford> so neither effect is signifigant?
19:37 <@rhia> now, stating that "black people voted for Obama cuz he's black" - That's racist
19:38 <@Dagmar> ...and "Don't let your neighbors see you trying tho.  They'll be jealous"
19:38 <@remoford> they are both racist comments regarding the behavior of racists
19:38 <@Corydon76-lap> For example, I can state with reasonable certainty that Clarence Thomas did not vote for Obama.  Race is simply an irrelevant question.
19:39 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure Martin Luther King didn't vote for Obama, either.
19:39 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: or Jr.
19:39 <@Dagmar> I'm not worried about what his kid does.
19:39 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: Jr. was the civil rights leader
19:39 <@Dagmar> When you have a "Jr" on YOUR name, then you can nitpick,.
19:40 <@rhia> yes, some blacks voted for the black guy, just like some idiot females voted for the idiot female, but that doesn't mean EVERY black or female who voted the way they did was due to racism or sexism
19:40 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: I'm more likely to have a Sr. added to my name
19:40 <@Dagmar> Jr, Sr, III, Vi and so on are optional for refernce
19:40 <@remoford> rhia: thats your turn for putting words in someones mouth
19:40 <@remoford> never said every
19:40 <@remoford> however, im pretty sure it was a signifigant effect on both sides
19:40 <@rhia> ok, drop every
19:41 <@remoford> and prolly about evened out in the end
19:41 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: grammatically, if you omit, it's assumed that the first one applies.
19:41 <@Dagmar> Either way, that was a deliberate trick on my part
19:41 <@Dagmar> I actually meant the one with Sr.
19:41 <@Dagmar> i..e, not the civil rights leader.
19:41 <@Corydon76-lap> Well, dead men rarely do vote
19:41 <@Dagmar> Partly because THEY'RE BOTH DEAD, yes.  :)
19:42 <@rhia> i know of a lot of black people in dallas who voted for the Democrat and against the Republicans - that the top Dem was black was just icing, but they voted straight Dem down the ticket
19:42 <@Corydon76-lap> except in Chicago
19:42 <@rhia> and would have for Hillary as well
19:42 <@Dagmar> ...and neither lived in Chicago to my knowledge, which makes it even more likely that they were just too busy to vote.
19:42 <@Corydon76-lap> Vote early, vote often.
19:42 <@Dagmar> Heheh
19:42 <@Dagmar> I loved the footage Channel 5 had of that old lady saying she'd voted twice
19:43 <@Corydon76-lap> Anyway, I have 2 hours of travel, so I'm going home.
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19:43 <@Dagmar> You could almost hear the camerman inhale
19:43 <@remoford> heh
19:44 <@sdodson> I heard Obama inhaled!
19:44  * remoford inhales
19:45 <@Catonic_lp> anyone got an email address for acidus?
19:45 <@rhia> remoford: basically, historically the democrats get the black vote
19:47 <@remoford> i know
19:47 <@rhia> the media keeps trying to spin it like the blacks went dem because of obama - they've historically been dem .... it annoys me ~shrug~
19:48 <@remoford> thats a reason some of them went that way
19:48 <@remoford> prolly most, party affiliation
19:49 <@sdodson> http://sun.com/ponytail
19:49 <@remoford> this changes hands periodically anyways
19:49 <@rhia> msm spin, esp far right spin, is mind boggling in how they pull tenuous threads and try to weave a whole flag from it
19:50 <@remoford> so is liberal spin
19:50 <@rhia> liberal spin takes a whole flag and pulls out little bitty threads to make their case
19:50 <@rhia> but, yeah, spin is spin
19:51 <@remoford> and the idea that blacks did NOT vote for obama because he is black is liberal bullshit
19:51 <@remoford> there were several reasons
19:51 <@remoford> and that is/was one of them
19:51 <@remoford> and i dont think a tiny tiny one as corydon does
19:51 <@remoford> nor was it the overwhelming factor
19:52 <@Catonic_lp> sdodson: nice
19:52 <@rhia> remoford: the spin is that they voted for him ONLY because he was black - the truth, as usual, is much more complex
19:52 <@remoford> and i dont think its racist to say so
19:52 <@rhia> remoford: heard too often in the last few days that was the ONLY or the Most Dominate reason - which IS racist -
19:52 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: have you seen the youtube video?
19:53 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r3JSciJf5M
19:53 <@sdodson> I don't care if it's racist. I think it's true.
19:53 <@remoford> so
19:53 <@rhia> to say it was part of the parcel - and give credit to, oh, the Republican meltdown, the economy, the war, healtcare, the economy, BushCo, etc etc ...... that's not racist
19:53 <@remoford> its racist to say that a racist effect is happening?
19:54 <@rhia> it's racist to paint a picture all black when it's not
19:54 <@remoford> and ill even say
19:54 <@remoford> it was the primary reason for a decent fraction of people
19:54 <@Drag0n> i hate that term, racist, what, do we hate the human race? color isnt race, its a sub genome of race
19:55 <@remoford> eg, the new voters who registered for just this election despite being eligible for some time
19:55 <@remoford> those are otherwise a-political folks
19:55 <@rhia> remoford: that was due to a huge grassroots push - and about the same percentage of new voted two years ago
19:55 <@remoford> and id bet quite a bit of that happened on both sides
19:55 <@remoford> rhia: that little?
19:56 <@remoford> everythign i had heard was that participatin was WAY up
19:56  * remoford goes and looks
19:56 <@rhia> the dems have been pushing registration and get out the vote for years now
19:56 <@rhia> was an increase 2 years ago that helped sweep dems into majority, was around the same increase over again this time
19:57 <@rhia> hard to compare completely as 2 yrs ago wasn't a presidential and the non-prez elections tend to draw fewer overall voters out
19:57 <@Catonic_lp> sdodson: that video is six different kinds of awesome.
19:58 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: inorite
19:59 <@rhia> but the percentage of registrations to actual votes to comparative election cycles has been increasing, esp on the dem side
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20:01 <@Catonic_lp> btw, ILOM blows hairy fetid goat balls.
20:01 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: better than elom
20:01 <@remoford> rhia: looks like you are right, not a big jump compared to the last one
20:04 <@rhia> remoford: what i would love to see is that level continue to increase - this country needs more popular involvement in our election process and government
20:04 <@rhia> but, not holding my breath on that ..... would be nice, tho
20:05 <@Catonic_lp> LOM/ALOM = rock;
20:05 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: I have a T1000 that's not working as designed.
20:06 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: boot -s is not giving me single user shell.
20:06 <@remoford> how about mandatory voting?
20:06 <@sdodson> hell no!
20:06 <@sdodson> I say proxy voting.
20:07 <@remoford> thats a unique prespective
20:07 <@rhia> remoford: no - for lots of reasons
20:07 <@rhia> but mandatory teaching of civics again in jr hs, hs, and colleges/universities - yes
20:08 <@sdodson> You think a lot of ignorant people voted along race lines in this last election? mandatory voting would make it even worse.
20:09 <@remoford> maybe so
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20:09 <@sdodson> I wonder if my apartment complex gets charged a $17 hook up fee whenever I discontinue electrical service. I imagine they don't. That sucks.
20:10 <@remoford> do you discontinue electrical service a lot?
20:10 <@remoford> if so, how the fuck are you online
20:10 <@remoford> plz explain
20:11 <@sdodson> No, but in order to have service connected in my name at the new place it's $17. Which means that when I discontinue service here it has to get turned on in the apt complex's name until the place is inhabited again. I'm wondering if they get dinged $17 every time that happens.
20:11 <@rhia> remoford: he plugs into his electric personality to stay online ;)
20:12  * sdodson shocks rhia 
20:12  * rhia is grounded 
20:12  * remoford wears chainmail for just this reason
20:14 <@sdodson> I always thought Dementia was into crappy internet chain mail because of her domain name.
20:14 <@sdodson> I was like "wow, that's a bit odd" until actually visited the site.
20:15 <@sdodson> the "Bill gates will give us all $100 if we forward this to 10 friends" stuff
20:19 <@rhia> heh, gmail  'relevant link' - W2K Corruption Recovery - Recover instantly from W2K data corruption
20:19 <@rhia> um..... yeah
20:20 <@rhia> sigh Y2K
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20:23 <@rhia> Y and W aren't even close on the keyboard - how'd I span that typo?
20:23 < deoptima> Identify r3dh4t84
20:23 < deoptima> Lmfao damn blackberry
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20:24 <@Dagmar> WHOOHOO! NOW I CAN BE DEOPTIMA!
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20:25 <@deoptima> brimstone you ass lol
20:25 <@brimstone> <_<
20:26  * brimstone points, it was Dagmar
20:28 <@Catonic_lp> http://pastebin.com/d21931280 <- how fucking retarded is that?
20:28 < buubot> Catonic_lp: The paste d21931280 has been copied to http://erxz.com/pb/13550
20:28 <@polerin> heh
20:28 <@polerin> brandon smells like butt
20:28 <@polerin> also, cheese.
20:28 <@Dagmar> It actually wasn't me, whatever it was
20:28 <@brimstone> polerin: you there! with the pockets!
20:29 <@Dagmar> I was in the back, playing Jenga with the DC.
20:29 <@polerin> deoptima: dood,  better passwords yah ditz.
20:29 <@deoptima> yea well I try you only wish you were this damn hot erin
20:29 <@Dagmar> So far I'm up to 12 cables with nothing going offline.
20:29 <@polerin> don't make me take your crackberry away from you.
20:29 <@Catonic_lp> is "too goddamn lazy to break into your box" a good excuse?
20:29 <@Catonic_lp> Dagmar: excellent.
20:30 <@brimstone> new high score!
20:30 <@polerin> also, you suck.
20:30 <@polerin> brimstone: whachew need?
20:30 <@brimstone> $hasMany
20:30 <@Dagmar> Well, I'm kinda scared to yank many more cables tonight.  I have kinda dodgy luck with anything that involves moving those old cables out
20:30 <@brimstone> or, $hasAndBelongsToManyIDontKnowWhichToUse
20:31 <@Dagmar> I've been pulling 10-20 a shift for the last week
20:31 <@polerin> brimstone: ok wht about it?
20:31 <@brimstone> i put that var $hasMany = "Tag"; line in my model, nothing
20:31 <@brimstone> i have the table and the model for Tag
20:31 <@brimstone> tags
20:31 <@polerin> ok
20:32 <@polerin> What's your find debth.
20:32 <@polerin> depth
20:32 <@brimstone> the cookbook is not help other then that
20:32 <@polerin> arg
20:32 <@brimstone> as far as she'll let me
20:32 <@brimstone> (read: what's a find depth?)
20:32 <@polerin> lol
20:32 <@polerin> ok
20:33 <@deoptima> wtf is my key for nickserv that's new
20:33 <@polerin> you can find it manually, but to be honest I <3 contain
20:35 <@polerin> $this->Blog->find('first',array('contain' => array('tags'), 'conditions' => array('Blog.id' => $id)));
20:35 <@polerin> I <3 me some contains
20:35 <@brimstone> i thought all the power was in the models?
20:35 <@polerin> which isn't in the book yet, but is some awesome shit
20:35 <@polerin> it is
20:36 <@polerin> containable is a behavior
20:36 <@polerin> which alters how the models behave
20:36 <@brimstone> herm
20:36 <@polerin> you have to have the association
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20:37 <@brimstone> i thought the association was the post_id coloum in the tags table
20:37 <@brimstone> posts hasmany tags
20:37 <@polerin> containable just alters the bindings and the recursive depth
20:37 <@polerin> well you need both
20:38 <@polerin> sorry, make the code above $this->Post->find(
20:38 <@polerin> s/Blog.id/Post.id
20:38 <@brimstone> right right
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20:44 <@scort> hi how do i mysql
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20:48 <@brimstone> yeah, who let him in here?
20:48  * brimstone shakes a fist
20:48 <@brimstone> i've been here long enough to do that right?
20:49 <@sdodson> do what?
20:49 <@brimstone> polerin: it's complaining about the $id not being defined
20:49 <@brimstone> new star trek trailer?
20:51 <@scort> no bots allowed or somethinG?
20:53 <@sdodson> somethinG
20:53 <@sdodson> I just don't like bots that do stupid shit and announce it to everyone.
20:54 <@sdodson> copying a pastebin to somewhere else seems pretentious, the very least that could be done is to do it silently
20:55 <@scort> no me
20:56 <@polerin> brimstone: $id was just a guess
20:56 <@polerin> brimstone: whatever var contains the id of the var you're looking for is what you need there
20:56 <@polerin> bin it
20:56 <@brimstone> but i want to return all of the posts...
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20:56 <@brimstone> so i don't really have an ID right now
20:57 <@polerin> ah
20:58 <@polerin> in that case do you have a blog controller and a posts controller?
20:58 <@brimstone> i have a posts controller and a tag controller
20:58 <@polerin> ok $this->Post->find('all', array(........) and leave off the conditions
20:59 <@polerin> just have the contains
20:59 <@brimstone> pm?
21:00 <@polerin> sure
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21:22 <+buu> I SENSE DANGER.
21:23 <@Dagmar> hehe
21:24 <@Dagmar> Damnit
21:24 <@Dagmar> Why is it EVERY time some jackass gets into a wild animal's cage and gets attacked people say there need to be more stringent security measures
21:25 <@Dagmar> WHAT THE FUCK SHOULD PEOPLE DO?  PUT IN A HIGH FENCE AND A DOG?
21:25 <+buu> Yes.
21:26 <+buu> An attack dog. To protect people from wild animals.
21:26 <@Dagmar> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/11/17/cougar.attacks.girl.wsvn
21:26 <@Dagmar> People were saying this shit about the tiger attack last year
21:27 <@Dagmar> "There should be added security measures to keep people from getting into the cage area"
21:27 <@Dagmar> Man if it can keep a fucking tiger in, I'd say it's as secure as it needs to be
21:28 <@Dagmar> Anything else should be chalked up to natural selection.
21:29 <@Dagmar> By the way, I was officially attacked by a bunny two nights ago.
21:29 <@Dagmar> I think he just got confused.
21:30 <+buu> Did he bluff charge you?
21:30 <@Dagmar> I got out of the car and was watching this bunny bounce around like mad, then he made two bounces in my direction apparently not paying attention and *whomp* into my left leg.
21:31 <@Dagmar> They weigh suprisingly little.
21:31 <+buu> And/or he has rabies
21:31 <@Dagmar> I don't think he was bluffing.  I think he just fucked up
21:31 <+buu> Haha
21:31 <+buu> You could have made a million dollars on you tube.
21:31 <@Dagmar> He kinda bounced off my shin and then boingboingboing into the bushes
21:33 <@Dagmar> I am pretty sure my car going by was what got him a bit worked up, and then I generally *do a u-turn* into a parking space
21:38 <@Dagmar> If he had rabies, the foxes will probably get him soon anyway
21:39 <+buu> Yay, rabid foxes
21:39 <@Dagmar> ...that is if the sub-zero temps don't do it tonight.
21:40 <@Dagmar> Which reminds me that I need to get some bird seed
21:46 <@rhia> Dagmar: (earlier) well, Glenn Beck got called a "racist bigot" - at a truckstop Wendy's
21:47 <@rhia> and, no surprise, he's also moving to FOX soon
21:49 <@rhia> Dagmar: you got attacked by "the Cute" - that's what happens with viewing CuteOverload over time ;)
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21:54 <@sdodson> phewi thought you said the cure
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22:03 <@Dagmar> rhia: I guess...
22:03 <@Dagmar> It was pretty funny
22:05 <@sdodson> "- modeset - fix O(wtf) operation in post_bufmgr_submit
22:05 <@sdodson> ^^ Less than confidence inspiring changelog entry
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22:14 < dasunt> WTF?
22:14 <@Dagmar> eh?
22:15 < dasunt> Blasphemous rumors and all of that [/Depeche Mode], but I fucked up in such a way that a *local* female is hitting on me.
22:16 <+buu> Clearly a mistake.
22:17 < dasunt> It will resolve itself.  :(
22:17 < goatmale> ouch
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22:27 <@timoguin> dasunt: wtf are you talking about?
22:28 < dasunt> timoguin: God's got a sick sense of humor.
22:28 < dasunt> So thi
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22:28 < dasunt> So this weekend, I found that a male internet aquaintance may be in the Minneapolis region soon.
22:28 < dasunt> So we're going to meet up.
22:29 < dasunt> Monday, I tell my cow orker this, without (accidentally) mentioning gender.
22:29 < dasunt> He askes me if the person is female.
22:29 < dasunt> To which I sarcastically reply that Ooopsie, that's what I was forgetting!
22:29 < dasunt> So today, I get home, and guess what, I start chatting with a loca,.
22:30 <@sdodson> loca?
22:30 <+buu> It's like a loa
22:30 <+buu> A vaudaun spirit.
22:30 <@timoguin> Watch out for them locas!
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22:31 <@timoguin> I'm translating Old/Middle English passages of poetry and prose!
22:33 <@sdodson> timoguin: omg write a rap!
22:34 < dasunt> I watch out for everyojne.
22:35 <@timoguin> sdodson: What kind of car do you drive?
22:35 <@brimstone> '77 chevy
22:35 <@timoguin> brimstone: You stay out of my conversations or I'll kill you.
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22:38 <@sdodson> timoguin: Acura RSX
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22:39 <@timoguin> sdodson: Coo.
22:39 <@timoguin> I was wondering that for some reason.
22:39 <@sdodson> are you stalking me?
22:39 <@timoguin> Couldn't remember if it was an S2000 or an Acura.
22:39 <@sdodson> "Why Do Men Have Nipples? Hundreds of Questions You'd Only Ask a Doctor After Your Third Martini"
22:39 <@sdodson> S2000 is the car I want. RSX is the car I bought. :(
22:41 <+SmthingPrductive> my doctor prescribed me a medication today that causes hot flashes and flushing... Somebody must've informed her about my menopause jokes and she's getting even :-/
22:44 < dasunt> o/' Everybody knows o/'
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22:53 <@sdodson> Is David Sedaris a clone of Sarah Vowell? They sound the same
22:56 < dasunt> Yes.
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23:06 <+SmthingPrductive> Where can I buy a Vowel?
23:07 <@Catonic_lp> Voxel.
23:10 <@Drag0n> ask vana white
23:12 <+SmthingPrductive> Oh... Voxel
23:13 <+SmthingPrductive> I often don't mind older women... but I'm going to draw the line welllll before Vana White
23:13 <+SmthingPrductive> Of course, if she came up to me and started unzipping my pants, I wouldn't struggle to hard to stop her...
23:15 <@Drag0n> you can learn a lot form and older woman
23:16 <+SmthingPrductive> sounds like you might have one distracting you at the moment
23:17 <@polerin> arg.  tired.
23:17 <@Catonic_lp> ... hey... what ever it takes to keep the political vibe down in the channel.
23:18 <+SmthingPrductive> Catonic_lp: dude... don't say the P-word in here... ;)
23:18 <@Drag0n> did you say something? i was distracted <g>
23:18 <@Catonic_lp> pussy?
23:19 <+SmthingPrductive> That's better.
23:21 <@polerin> politics politics politics
23:21 <@polerin> the shit that if you don't pay attention to, it'll come around and bite you in the ass
23:21 <@polerin> becasue the right sure is paying attention
23:21 <@rhia> polerin: then how about distro wars - 1st up - gentoo: http://www.milinkito.com/1343/listo/ (the flash)
23:21 <@polerin> meh
23:22 <@polerin> I pretty much stick with deb and ubuntu
23:22 <@polerin> apt is my friend
23:22 <@rhia> polerin: clicky linky
23:24 <@rhia> penguin 1 - orcas 0
23:25 <@polerin> heh
23:27 <@polerin> that's pretty funny
23:28 <@rhia> =)
23:36 <@polerin> rhia: did I show you the two pictures from yesterday?
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