--- Log opened Sat Nov 15 00:00:40 2008
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00:14 <@sdodson> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gQ4q3hjYrFQ/SR4cC30YPaI/AAAAAAAAAVo/1pV8-1bta2U/s1600-h/devel_contrib.jpg the continium of Linux users.
00:15 < dasunt> I'm not a maintainer yet!
00:15 < dasunt> I love the "Alan Cox" at the end.
00:22 <@brimstone> it just needs a "r2" at the bottom
00:23 <@sdodson> r2?
00:24 <@brimstone> rev 2
00:32  * Catonic phases
00:33 <@Catonic> whiizy?
00:34 <@sdodson> Catonic: hi
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00:45 < cwire> my hd crashed today (80 gig) and the cheapest one they had at walmart was 320 gig, not a bad tradeup
00:46 <@Catonic> http://www.break.com/index/ghost-ride-the-tank.html
00:49 < cwire> you'd think the terrorists would know when they're going to make a music video, perfect time for an rpg
00:51 < dasunt> It's a good evening for Opeth.
00:52 <@Catonic> I'm just amused at the whole concept..
00:52 < dasunt> Jesus fucking Christ!
00:52 < dasunt> Are you all facebooking right now?
00:52 <@Catonic> "we've got a 10-ton truck... let's put it in neutral and walk all over it"
00:54 < cwire> :)
01:02  * dasunt misses bloody marys.
01:03  * cwire misses the coke to go with my jug o' rum
01:03 <@coil> i miss my left hard
01:03 <@coil> hand*
01:04 < cwire> you got me beat
01:04 <@Catonic> http://www.break.com/index/compilation-of-motorcycle-crashes.html
01:04 <@Catonic> I love the one where the guy sucessfully mounts a 180
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01:05 <@coil>  mount me
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01:07 <@Catonic> coil: not my type. ain't got no vaginer.
01:08 < cwire> heh, 180 right into the fence
01:08 < cwire> nice
01:08 <@coil> that's what you think
01:08 <@coil> you haven't seen me recently
01:11 < cwire> hmm, just noticed that the phreaknic page on wilpig.org is down
01:18 <@Catonic> http://www.break.com/trutv-crazy-stupid-vids/tow-me-away.html <- dude sounds like raymond's brother
01:20 <@coil> no u
01:21 < dasunt> Is the PN audio up yet?
01:22 <@Catonic> this has been the laziest post-con showing yet
01:22 <@Catonic> no videos, no photos, nothing.
01:22 <@Catonic> almost as if... no recording devices survived.
01:22 <@coil> fbi took everything
01:22 < cwire> yeah, kinda sucks
01:23 < cwire> my friend was next to useless on picture taking and he wasn't even drunk the whole weekend
01:26 <@Catonic> http://www.break.com/index/hilary-obama-mahna-mahna.html
01:26 < cwire> i remember evilpig said the video stuff he got wasn't good enough quality to put up, think he was waiting on dvds to see if it was better
01:27 <@Catonic> I'm just thinking out loud, but I'd be willing to bet that FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE would run like a scalded dog on a modern processor.
01:28 <@coil> why bother
01:29  * Catonic pulls the trigger
01:29  * Catonic dies.
01:29 <@coil> good
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01:42 < dasunt> Meh.
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01:51 < dasunt> http://www.catswhothrowupgrass.com/kill.php
01:53 <@coil> dude i showed you that last night
01:53 <@coil> and you fuckin didn't say shit
01:53 <@coil> then you go and repaste it thinking you found it all by ur self
01:53 <@coil> fuck you
02:01 <@Catonic> coil: don't you have a cock to go smoke?
02:01 <@coil> no i haven't done that in two years
02:02 <@coil> sirius xm merge ftl
02:02 <@coil> they merged the channel lineup with out telling anyone
02:02 < cwire> sigh, you forget all the little utilities you used all the time until you reformat and don't have them
02:04 <@Catonic> http://divisibleby0.com/murder/
02:05 <@Catonic> I'm putting a chainsaw in the Rabbit for safety.
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02:26 <@Catonic> bitches!
02:28 <@coil> shut
02:28 <@coil> the
02:28 <@coil> front
02:28 <@coil> door
02:41 <@juice> hi
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02:42 <@coil> no im not
02:50 <@Catonic> omg, Don LaFontaine was from Duluth
02:51 <@juice> sup Catonic
02:51 <@coil> zomffffffffffffgggggggggh
02:51 <@Catonic> lmfao: "When they did Fargo, they were doing a Minnesota accent. Fargo, is in North Dakota..."
02:52 <@Catonic> juice: watching this video: http://maniatv.com/shows/spread-entertainment/playlists/previous-episodes/videos/dave-navarros-spread-ep-27-111507
02:52 <@juice> ic
02:53 <@Catonic> and I just figured out how to do 16th notes on bass
02:58 <@Catonic> ... and I just killed a pick. a 2.0mm no less...
02:58 <@coil> pick of destiny
02:59 <@coil> did ya like that movie Catonic ????????
03:14 <@Catonic> never seen it
03:14 <@Catonic> i did just figure out how to do slap-harmonics on bass.
03:14 <@Catonic> I feel like a technical bass god.
03:16 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I46MMXGKaQ0 <- fuck that kid is -good-
03:19 <@coil> http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9924/donotpostbf3.jpg i wonder what those chracters say on that sign
03:19 <@coil> 986F 64B9 3005 E03E FC42 A41E BD57 3179
03:23 <@Catonic> lmfao, victor wooten busting andy griffith
03:23 <@coil> we might as well just talk in our heads Catonic
03:24 <@juice> later
03:24 <@juice>  victor wooten awesome bass player
03:24 <@coil> k
03:25 <@Catonic> yeah
03:25 <@Catonic> he's one of the best
03:25 <@juice> 1 of the elite bass players slap pop pro
03:25 <@Catonic> victor is like buckethead on bass... but the wootens are all talented
03:25 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZyQAFroumM
03:41 <@Catonic> damn, I miss ratm
03:41 <@Catonic> NOW TESTIFY!@!@!
03:42 <@coil> that song is so annoying
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05:24 <@Catonic> Scary times we're living in when the voices of reason come from the punk and industrial muscians of the 1980s and 1990s
05:24 <@Catonic> Al Jourgensen, Henry Rollins,
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07:35 <@Catonic_lp> Good moaning #se2600!!!!
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09:59 <@sdodson> which one of you tossers is jesse?
10:03 <@sdodson> nevermind
10:03 <@Catonic_lp> I'm hungry, but not hungry enough for Aborted Baby Surprise.
10:04 <@sdodson> What's that?
10:04 <@sdodson> OMG, McCafe = crap. It tastes like my cat took a shit in my mocha
10:04 <@sdodson> I mean, how can it be good if you have sizes listed in english?
10:05 <@Catonic_lp> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSB90HFGy7w <- cop tases self.
10:05 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: when we goin' clubb'n?
10:05 <@Catonic_lp> venti frape?
10:07 <@Catonic_lp> I dunno.
10:07 <@Catonic_lp> I'm beginning to think that there are few people in the chan I'd go clubbing with.
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10:31 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: I know man, no one else is a hip as you an I!
10:31 <@sdodson> UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE
10:32 <@brimstone> local debian mirrors rock so hard
10:32 <@sdodson> my mirror rolled paper and kills your mirror
10:34 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: wake up!
10:35 <@sdodson> brimstone: maybe you know, what was the credit card processing service phreaknic used?
10:42 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: ClickAndPledge.com
10:44 <@Corydon76-dig> They're a CC processor for nonprofit organizations
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10:45 <@Catonic_lp> what do they take?
10:45 <@Catonic_lp> percentage?
10:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Yep, flat percentage of 4.75%
10:48 <@Corydon76-dig> No monthly fee, no transaction fee
10:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Percentage is a bit high when you compare to other processors, but when you take into account the lack of a monthly fee or per-transaction fee (and no monthly minimum), it's actually cheaper this way
10:51 <@sdodson> I just got access to the pn-info lists  and found that.
10:51 <@sdodson> Their page says 4.5% and $0.35 per transaction.
10:51 <@sdodson> http://clickandpledge.com/pricing.asp
10:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, we're working off their legacy fees
10:52 <@coil> hax
10:52 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: but you're otherwise very happy with them?
10:52 <@Corydon76-dig> They found they were losing money on really small transactions
10:53 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm happy with the pricing I have, and I'll work around their other limitations to get that pricing
10:53 <@Corydon76-dig> We may convert to the "Advanced" interface for next year, I dunno
10:54 <@Corydon76-dig> That basically means us building a shopping cart on our own system, then sending them a specially crafted URL, so they know what to charge
10:55 <@Corydon76-dig> but the current system is workable
10:55 <@sdodson> what's hard about the current system?
10:56 <@Corydon76-dig> It's not so much hard as it is a bit challenging to learn how to manipulate their system
10:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Their current interface is very "Web 2.0" and it's not very intuitive
10:57 <@Corydon76-dig> They went for bells and whistles over their previous interface which was very utilitarian
10:58 <@sdodson> Ok, so it won't be terribly hard to add ordering of t-shirts?
10:58 <@Corydon76-dig> No, it's not hard at all, once you learn how to reach all the different options
10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Basically, you add a basic product (PN 11 Tshirt), then add options to the product (White/Small, White/Medium, etc.)
10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> and each option can have its own pricing
10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Same thing for shipping
11:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Shipping is now based on some measure that you specify (could be weight or some other measurement)
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Used to be all based on price, so the current shipping interface is a big improvement on the previous
11:01 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: cool, thanks. BTW, what do you think of pre-reg? does it help? Is it a burden?
11:02  * sdodson asking about this for Carolinacon, which I can expect you to all attend, right?
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I think prereg is one of the smartest things we've done, next to buying a cash register
11:03 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: in fact, I think we should go back to preselling Tshirts on the site, because people buy more, when they can buy on credit
11:03 <@brimstone> me too
11:03 <@sdodson> Last year we apparently got about 50 pre-regs. 57 pre-regs past for the conference room, so in my mind walking in there with cash in hand to pay for the conference room is a big win.
11:03 <@sdodson> s/past/pays/
11:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, that was part of the original thought process, but to me, having that much less cash to keep track of once the con starts is a godsend
11:04 <@sdodson> Ya.
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> We've had very consistently around 100 preregs per year... it was down this year, but attendance was also down
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Even when prereg was done without credit, we had around 100 preregs
11:06 <@sdodson> I'm going to suggest we also roll shirts like you guys do, and make sure that we get them rolled the day before.
11:06 <@Corydon76-dig> It also makes your badge that much more special, that it's pre-printed, instead of having your name written on
11:06 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I would suggest that you get your Tshirts rolled at least 2 weeks in advance
11:07 <@sdodson> 2 weeks?
11:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, trust me, night before is way too late
11:07 <@sdodson> Ok.
11:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Something always comes up, and you have a fire you need to put out in that timeframe
11:07 <@coil> fire
11:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Or more precisely, PLAN as if you're going to roll Tshirts 2 weeks before
11:08 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: How do you handle making sure that pre-ordered shirts aren't sold to non pre-order people?
11:08 <@brimstone> label them with handles
11:08 <@brimstone> or put them in a different box
11:08 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: we set them aside
11:09 <@sdodson> Ok.
11:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Ideally, we should bundle the badges, Tshirts, and swag, for each preorder, although that hasn't happened the last 2 years
11:12 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: Thanks, so are you coming?
11:13 <@coil> i know i am
11:13 <@sdodson> coil: THATS GROSS!
11:14 <@coil> ???
11:14 <@coil> perf
11:14 <@coil> perv
11:14 <@sdodson> I needs me a harddrive, what size should i get
11:14 <@brimstone> 1.5TB
11:14 <@brimstone> go big or go home
11:14 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I'll consider it
11:14 <@brimstone> sdodson: really, raid 5 3 1TBs
11:14 <@coil> brimstone, buy me some
11:14 <@brimstone> coil: get a job
11:14 <@coil> i have one but business is slow
11:15 <@sdodson> brimstone: i'll have to make sure that my board supports dmraid
11:15 <@coil> it doesn't
11:15 <@brimstone> sdodson: boo dmraid, get a raid card
11:15 <@brimstone> software raid sux
11:15 <@sdodson> raid cards sux
11:15 <@coil> you all sux
11:15 <@sdodson> you're locked into using that card, if that card fails and you can't find a replacement you're screwed.
11:16 <@brimstone> don't buy a suck card
11:16 <@coil> and isn't a good raid card a few hundred bucks
11:16 <@sdodson> what would you suggest?
11:16 <@sdodson> also, mind you, most of the 3ware cards actually suggest using the OS Software raid because it's faster.
11:20 <@brimstone> skydog says he has good luck with the promise cards
11:20 <@brimstone> which is also what apple's stuff uses
11:20 <@sdodson> I actually have a box of promise cards at work that just sit there.
11:20 <@coil> promise to use me
11:20 <@brimstone> try 'em out!
11:20 <@sdodson> A co-worker tells me to take them home and use them but I feel bad doing that for some rason.
11:21 <@sdodson> Did you know that with raid 5 the reliability of the array actually goes down after adding a 7th disk?
11:21 <@brimstone> what?
11:21 <@brimstone> that's hog wash
11:21 <@sdodson> No, it's math.
11:21 <@brimstone> i don't understand why it degrades after the 7th disk
11:22 <@sdodson> Up to the 7th disk the added parity actually increases reliability. After the 7th the increased probability of failure means you're decreasing the reliability.
11:22 <@sdodson> Because each time you add a drive you increase the probability of failure.
11:22 <@brimstone> but it doesn't store parity on all disks...
11:22 <@brimstone> hold on, changing locations, we'll discuss this more
11:23 <@sdodson> Yes.
11:25 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: if you feel guilty about taking those cards home, create a "signout sheet", noting each card that you remove from the premises, and get the list approved by your supervisor, then check them back in, when they're returned
11:26 <@sdodson> Oh, I was actually told to take them for good so long as I agreed to use them in linux now and then.
11:26 <@Corydon76-dig> by a coworker or supervisor?
11:27 <@sdodson> It basically comes down to the fact that I'm entrusted with an insane amount of hardware and I don't want there to ever be any questions asked about my integrity.
11:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Or get the offer in writing, if you're worried
11:28 <@Corydon76-dig> I think the fact that you've even asking this question means that they don't ever have to worry about your integrity
11:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Windows fanboy days, notwithstanding
11:29 <@sdodson> s/Windows/Reality/
11:32 <@sdodson> I guess it could be said that I frequently turned a blind eye to the evilness of MSFT, but other than that I fully stand behind my previous statements.
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12:04  * sdodson cancels more bills
12:04 <@coil> k
12:10 <@brimstone> sdodson: so this parity issue, do you have any supporting links?
12:11 <@coil> cite ur sources
12:12 < someninjamaster> sdodson: are you saying the probality of 2 disks failing increses
12:21 <@sdodson> someninjamaster: Yes.
12:21 <@sdodson> brimstone: So counting theory.
12:21 <@sdodson> The probability of having two disk fail before you can recover one of them increases as the number of disks increase.
12:22 <@sdodson> So beyond a certain number of disk, apparently 7, the probability of having two disk fail before recovery outpaces the protection provided by having the parity.
12:23 <@sdodson> Also, with the disks getting larger, even if you have a hot spare the recovery time is increasing.
12:26 < someninjamaster> and i can tell you from experence raid 5 sucks to recover
12:27 < someninjamaster> almost as much as 0
12:27 <@sdodson> what sort of failure did you have?
12:31 <@brimstone> launch failure
12:32 <@brimstone> sdodson: so, you're saying that it's more likely for a drive to fail at 7 disks
12:32 <@brimstone> well, more likely that 2 will fail before you replace one
12:32 < someninjamaster> one drive failed with coruption
12:32 <@brimstone> we just got an array with 8 drives too :/
12:33 < someninjamaster> well 2 drives
12:33 <@sdodson> http://storageadvisors.adaptec.com/2007/07/10/effect-of-drive-count-on-raid-5/
12:33 < someninjamaster> one totally doa
12:33 <@sdodson> brimstone: I believe it was seven, if you read the "bit error during rebuild" section it says 10 disks
12:33 < someninjamaster> so you end up having to weave the images of the drives back together
12:34 <@sdodson> It also outlines that it's a good idea to have continuous scanning
12:35 <@sdodson> That way bit errors are detected while the array is still optimal.
12:37 <@sdodson> Also, i've heard that you want to have a hot spare for every 17 enterprise disks, one for every 10 non enterprise disks.
12:38 <@Drag0n> this is part of the reason high end sas and scsi drives have kept below 500 gb, the mean data transfers between unrecoverable error on 500 gb drives falls within the amount of data needed to recover the drive
12:39 <@sdodson> They also tend to have 520byte sectors rather than 512byte sectors
12:39 <@sdodson> byte/bit I forget, moar error data
12:39 <@Drag0n> when you move from 500 to 1tb drives in an array, it is best to change to raid 6 or raid 10
12:41 <@sdodson> This is why when I actually care about my dad I just send a ticket "plz be givink me space on teh fylahz kthnx"
12:41 <@sdodson> and they write back "plz to be cutting us a PO for a bajillion dolla"
12:47 < dasunt> http://mingle2.com/dating-report/details/usa#most_cities
12:48 < dasunt> WTF is wrong with Alabama?
12:48 <@sdodson> you want a list?
12:48 <@Drag0n> make a list of what is right with it, its shorter
12:48 <@sdodson> It's all brimstone's fault.
12:48 <@coil> fag
12:49 < dasunt> What's right with Alabama:  Λ
12:50 <@rhia> Negative 37 million?
12:51 < dasunt> Oh well, off to run to the store.
12:52 <@Drag0n> thats how they term inbreeding?
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12:55 <@sdodson>   roll coins or take it to coin star and pay 10%?
12:55 <@Neoteric> or get a kiddie pool and live out scrooge mcDuck fantasies
12:56 <@rhia> few banks here will count for you for free
12:56 <@rhia> so, 4th option, move to TX
12:57 <@sdodson> you guys still have banks?
12:58 <@Neoteric> sdodson: of course not.
12:58 <@Neoteric> sdodson: I have american express
12:58 <@Neoteric> it's like a bank, but instead of dividends or interest I get fees and frequent flier points.
13:15 <@aestetix> Hmm.
13:16 <@aestetix> San Francisco: I wake up in a strange house and there is a naked girl walking around.
13:16 <@aestetix> I could get used to this.
13:22 <@Catonic_lp> awesome.
13:23 <@coil> fags
13:25 <@sdodson> coil: stop that
13:26 <@coil> no
13:29 <@sdodson> coil: Please realize I'm not asking.
13:30 <@coil> i dont give a fuck
13:31 <@sdodson> aestetix: San Francisco? Check for duct tape.
13:35 <@rhia> duct tape would be easy to spot on naked skin
13:36 <@Catonic_lp> heh
13:36 <@Catonic_lp> curiously gay al... furiously gay al....
13:38 <@aestetix> I said naked girl, not naked fruit
13:41 <@Catonic_lp> I wonder if my heart would esplode if I drank coffee right now
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13:54 <@Catonic_lp> I have a problem.
13:54 <@Catonic_lp> I don't know what a good party is.
13:55 <@Catonic_lp> My friend is throwing a party, and I don't think he knows how.
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14:02 <@juice> morons
14:03 <+SmthingPrductive> ahh... 10<8... asciibetical sorting, as my supervisor likes to call it...
14:03 <+SmthingPrductive> my idea of the perfect web site is www.ampr.org
14:04 <+SmthingPrductive> as far as design ;)
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14:06 <@sdodson> there's a ton of sites that are failing due to flash 10
14:06 < AstralSin> i can't get the 2 latest nvidia drivers to work in ibex :/
14:07 <@sdodson> oh what a shame
14:07 < AstralSin> the 96 version works but the other 2 don't
14:07 <@sdodson> this is a legacy card?
14:07 < AstralSin> geforce 6600
14:08 <@sdodson> is that only supported by the legacy driver?
14:08 < AstralSin> nope
14:08 < AstralSin> it worked with the 177 driver before the ibex upgrade
14:08 < AstralSin> when i use that driver, all i can see is a 1 pixel tall line across the top of the screen
14:09 < AstralSin> its trying to render the screen, but it can only manage 1 pixel, so it would seem
14:09 < AstralSin> tried manually setting the res in xorg.conf but that wouldn't even allow X to load
14:23 <@sdodson> works for me in fedora :(
14:27 < AstralSin> i never could get nvidia to work period in fedora 9
14:27 <@sdodson> orly? yum install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
14:28 < AstralSin> hm
14:28 < AstralSin> i didn't know that and google failed me miserably
14:28 <@sdodson> I'm going to give living google free another shot next week
14:29 <@sdodson> heh, cleaning out spindles of old dvdrs lots and lots of old vista builds
14:29 < AstralSin> i found the unixware install cds the last time i did that
14:30 < AstralSin> i microwaved them
14:31 <@sdodson> I've come to a conclusion.
14:31 <@sdodson> I need to dust more.
14:31 < AstralSin> me too
14:32 < AstralSin> i dusted last weekend and ended up dirtying 3 rags
14:32 <@sdodson> the builder of my new place told me not to use the higher end air filters.
14:32 < AstralSin> why?
14:33 <@sdodson> said the furnace ends up working harder due to increased cold air return resistance
14:33 < AstralSin> ah
14:36  * Catonic_lp puts a bottle of douche next to the nagios server.
14:38 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: why?
14:39 <@Drag0n> going to give the network a flush?
14:41 < AstralSin> ba dum shhh
14:51 <@Catonic_lp> you've gotta be a nagios guy to understand why.
14:51 <@sdodson> high school year books, keep em or burn the evidence?
14:52 <@sdodson> I only use nagios for alerting.
14:52 <@Drag0n> keep em as evidence
15:01 <@aestetix> mmmm massage from a naked girl
15:17 <@Catonic> where's neoteric when you need an asian happy ending...
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15:21 <@Catonic> ever notice how aestetix sounds like cartman whenever women are involved?
15:22 <@Catonic> "mmm, naked woman, mmm, massage from a naked woman, mmmmmmmm.... all mine, mine mine mine... mmmm"
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15:28 <@sdodson> yay last of the busted ass furniture gone
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17:29 <@Evilpig> warcraft and lentil soup, co-existing peacefully.  http://mediabeta.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/4922/6754/soup.jpeg
17:29 <@Evilpig> wtf?
17:29 <@sdodson> Evilpig: You still play wow?
17:32 <@Evilpig> duh huh
17:33 <@sdodson> oh, how sad.
17:33 <@sdodson> I do feel like buying the expansion or something just for the hell of it
17:34 <@Evilpig> so far the expansion has been alot of fun
17:36 <@sdodson> Expansions aren't cumulative are they?
17:41 <@Evilpig> no
17:41 <@Evilpig> you'd have to get wow, bc then wotlk
17:45 <@sdodson> Do they offer a "war chest" version or something?
17:55 < AstralSin> war chest makes me think of tits with guns for nipples
17:57 <@sdodson> any suggestions for chinese food that doesn't involve fried chicken?
17:58 < AstralSin> rice
17:59 <@rhia> good chinese, or american delivery/buffet chinese?
17:59 <@sdodson> rhia: Stuff us non elitests enjoy.
18:01 <@rhia> chicken with almond, moo goo gai pan, anything szechuan or moo shu,
18:02 <@rhia> gan shio shrimp, orange beef, happy family, four delight.....
18:03 <@rhia> peking duck .....
18:03 <@rhia> damn, now i want duck
18:03 <@sdodson> i think i'll try the moo goo gai pan
18:03 <@sdodson> thanks
18:06 < AstralSin> i had some bitchin duck spring rolls last night
18:06 <@sdodson> Gan Shou seems to be the only spelling google knows of
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18:09 <@rhia> gan shiao  is how i'm used to seeing it but i don't speak any of the asian languages
18:09 <@sdodson> man this sucks
18:10 <@sdodson> you gave me too many options, now I'll probably end up confused and ordering general tso's which i like but this place has crap fried chicken
18:10 <@rhia> also used to seeing the duck as "vit quay" - no clue if that's right or not either - but i'm addicted to good roast duck
18:10 <@rhia> first two are white sauce, very mild, rest go heavier and spicier
18:12 <@sdodson> I think I'll try something moo shu, no idea what the pancakes are like
18:14 <@rhia> sorta crepe like, chinese fajitas <g>
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19:33 <@dc0de_> evenin all
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19:35 <@tcstool> evening
19:35 <@dc0de> sup tcstool
19:35 <@tcstool> Nothing much man how about you?
19:36 <@dc0de> warming up... was out in the garage smelting wheel weights into ingots
19:36 <@dc0de> my feet are warming up.
19:37 <@tcstool> Man the temperature has taken a nasty turn huh?
19:38 <@sdodson> How much does it cost to get wheels balanced?
19:38 <@tcstool> usually about 10 bucks a tire I think
19:39 <@dc0de> tcstool: yes, I didn't know how cold I was until I went back inside...
19:39 <@dc0de> my knee is still complaining from the cold.
19:43 <@dc0de> http://dc0de.com/weather/
19:45 <@sdodson> Isn't the netherlands cold?
19:49  * sdodson goes and farts on dc0de's weather thing
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19:54 <@rhia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckb-wUHj9WU   ninja ..... kittens .....
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20:30 <@sdodson> rhia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OXCeUiHjuM
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22:04 <@rhia> heh, what's he trying to catch?
22:07 <@sdodson> rhia: velcro cable tie stuff from racks at work. He plays with that more than any toy I've ever bought him.
22:08 <@rhia> we've got one that goes insane over Glad Press-n-seal wrap
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23:08 < dasunt> Oh!  Oh!
23:09 < dasunt> So anyways, the IT guy at the $other_company that's a client of ours got his multilink ppp over two t1s setup.
23:09 < dasunt> Of course, they changed his IP addresses.
23:09 < dasunt> He was amazed when he stopped getting mail.
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