--- Log opened Mon Nov 10 00:00:40 2008 00:05 <@aestetix> Oooh. 00:05 <@aestetix> dasunt: I can introduce you to crazy. 00:05 <@aestetix> She's great if you don't mind the fact she's married. 00:08 <@aestetix> Actually if you want crazy 00:08 <@aestetix> dasunt: you should date jonnyx 00:16 <@Catonic> she looks like fun. Hit her in the head with a frying pan and fuck her until the cops show up. 00:17 <@Catonic> bicycle polo... that looks like fun 00:37 <@Catonic> dasunt: how youse tonight? 00:52 <@aestetix> aww 00:52 <@aestetix> I think I just crashed my ipod 00:53 <@Catonic> aweslam 00:53 <@dasunt> Catonic: Busy. 00:54 <@dasunt> Trying to price bike gear. 00:54 <@dasunt> Meh. 00:54 <@coil> dasunt, drunk again 00:54 <@dasunt> I'm sober. 00:54 <@dasunt> Ran out of gin. 00:54 <@Catonic> my cheapass walmart bike is slowly dying 00:55 <@Catonic> excessive runout in the rear-axle bearings 00:56 <@dasunt> Replace the rear tire. 00:56 <@dasunt> Er, rear wheel. 00:56 <@coil> k 00:56 <@dasunt> I'm actually trying to figure out what I want to do with a rear wheel right now. 00:56 <@aestetix> woot 00:56 <@dasunt> I have a 32 spoke wheel with a rim that's been very, very abused. 00:56 <@dasunt> Decent hub though. 00:56 <@dasunt> But I want 36 spokes to support my heavy ass. 00:56 <@aestetix> I now have full ipod touch usage via linux 00:56 <@aestetix> although it's not pretty 00:56 <@Catonic> something you put together? 00:57 <@aestetix> Well 00:57 <@aestetix> more ssh + mplayer + pdf reader 00:57 <@aestetix> Now I'm downloading a bunch of mp3s 00:57 <@aestetix> cause I have to hop on a plane in like 4 hours 00:57 <@aestetix> (travelling sucks after a while) 00:59 <@Catonic> where to? .eu? 01:01 <@aestetix> No. 01:01 <@aestetix> San Francisco 01:01 <@coil> super thanks for askin 01:01 <@coil> say hi to my bf for me plz 01:03 <@aestetix> uh 01:04 <@coil> dont worry he wont bite (hard) 01:04 <@aestetix> I'm getting sick of travelling so much. 01:04 <@coil> sux4u 01:06 <@Catonic> ill or tired? 01:06 <@aestetix> both 01:06 <@coil> im stick and tired of being sick and tired 01:06 <@aestetix> you're stick? 01:07 <@coil> no 01:07 <@coil> it's a song 01:07 <@aestetix> oh 01:09 <@aestetix> must stay up for 5 more hours.... 01:09 <@aestetix> this sucks 01:11 <@coil> y 01:11 <@Catonic> in five hours, he gets a dick in the ass 01:11 <@coil> nice 01:14 <@aestetix> fuck 01:14 <@aestetix> crashsed it agin 01:22 <@Catonic> I wonder how many ipods have been used in espionage 01:33 <@dasunt> I should sleep 02:23 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:25 -!- TheLightCosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9ecffdb7e7832426] has joined #se2600 03:50 <@Dagmar> DAMNIT 03:50 <@Dagmar> Is channel 5 hiring fuckin' eight-year olds to write copy now? 03:50 < TheLightCosine> ? 03:52 <@Dagmar> "The clerk got a way, but police say the gunman robbed another gas station wearing these same clothes and the shell casing from the 25 semi- automatic had gun, matched those from the Mapco." 03:52 <@Dagmar> http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=9319141 03:53 <@Dagmar> There's more fuckups than that in the article, too. 03:54 <@Dagmar> Actually, it looks like there's at least one big one in each damn paragraph. 04:01 < TheLightCosine> heh 04:01 < TheLightCosine> god bless the modern media 04:01 < TheLightCosine> I suggest not picking up a copy of the Tennessean, you mgiht have an anurism trying to read it 04:11 <@Dagmar> heh 04:12 <@Dagmar> I just want to know why people who in theory are supposed to have gotten a degree of some kind CAN'T WRITE AT A POST HIGH-SCHOOL LEVEL 04:19 < TheLightCosine> "I got me some book learning" 04:19 < TheLightCosine> also with "internet news" it's obvious that they just don't give a shit 04:27 < TheLightCosine> they apparently have never heard of the comma 04:31 * aestetix feels like he's been spending more and more time in airports lately 05:40 < TheLightCosine> can anyone recommend a a good free windows hex editor? 07:03 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Ya, like me do! 07:10 <@Shadow404> aestetix: hey, no complaining 07:10 <@Shadow404> i just got back from japan on sunday 07:13 <@sdodson> poor guy, why don't you tell us about your hardships? 07:16 <@sdodson> What you're call'n the cause I call the cure. 07:27 <@Shadow404> 30 hour jet lag, so fuck u 07:31 < nated0g> did you look like godzilla to them ? 07:33 -!- someninjamaster is now known as someninjalearnin 07:33 <@Shadow404> got alot of stare downs 07:33 <@polerin> heh 07:34 < nated0g> wouldnt it be a stare up? 07:35 < nated0g> ugh gotta get to work. 07:35 <@Shadow404> heh, agreed 07:35 <@Shadow404> stare ups 07:36 <@Shadow404> hey, but most of the women there, came up to the perfect height on me 07:36 < nated0g> fuck its 30 degrees here 07:36 < nated0g> oh right!!! 07:36 <@Shadow404> it was 29 when i left the house this morning 07:36 < nated0g> giggity giggity goo 07:36 <@Shadow404> exactly 07:36 <@Shadow404> but i couldnt find a $2 dolla sucky sucky anywhere 07:36 <@Shadow404> but i did get one awesome massage 07:36 < nated0g> at least a happy ending? 07:36 <@Shadow404> nah 07:37 < nated0g> kick ass sushi? 07:37 <@Shadow404> mmmmm, got sick though 07:37 <@Shadow404> only threw up once, and all better 07:37 <@Shadow404> i think it was the squid 07:37 <@Shadow404> gotta have a stomach for it 07:37 < nated0g> fuckity fuck...work time 07:37 < nated0g> see yall later 07:39 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 07:39 -!- Catonic_lp [n=cinotac@60-24.9-67.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:53 <@sdodson> shadow44: how do you find the will togo on? 07:54 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:10 <@Shadow404> i dont know, its tough sdodson 08:15 < TheLightCosine> morning dole 08:16 <@Dolemite> Well I see that not everybody has moved over to #nashvill2600 08:16 <@Dolemite> ha! 08:17 < TheLightCosine> woah 08:17 < TheLightCosine> what's up with that? 08:17 <+Peaches84> morning 08:17 < TheLightCosine> why the split? 08:18 <@Dolemite> Well, according to the email that SkyDog sent to the list, he felt that there was too much baggage between several people in #se2600 so he decided to create a new sandbox to play in. 08:19 <@Dolemite> That's a paraphrase. 08:19 < TheLightCosine> ah 08:19 < TheLightCosine> I gather from your tone, that you are not particularly impressed =P 08:20 <@Dolemite> I've never been an advocate of taking your jacks and going home. 08:20 <@Dolemite> But it's not my baggage, so I'm not judging. 08:20 < TheLightCosine> wow....i just had one of those moments where i realise what a dork I am...I was like "why would you take phone jacks out?" 08:21 <@Dolemite> s/jacks/toys/ 08:21 < TheLightCosine> yeah i got it after a moment heh 08:22 < TheLightCosine> so by baggae, am I to presume this means #ware and #no-ware? 08:22 <@Dolemite> No, he created the channel independent of ware 08:22 <@Dolemite> He wants to make that perfectly clear 08:23 <@Shadow404> why does it have to be perfect? 08:23 <@Dolemite> ware is currently hanging out there and I'm sure that when he gets bored he'll go through the same cycle of antics that he went through here 08:23 <@Shadow404> get drunk and bitch out everyone? 08:23 <@Dolemite> yep, and get kick banned and bitch about the #nashville2600 clique 08:23 <@Shadow404> nice 08:24 <@Dolemite> that boy has a demon inside of him 08:24 < TheLightCosine> some things on IRC never change no matter what net you're on or how long it's been lol 08:24 <@Dolemite> he needs an exorcism 08:24 * Dolemite has been watching too much True Blood 08:24 < TheLightCosine> next thing you know the AKICK wars will start 08:25 <@Dolemite> Damn, Seagate 500GB SATA drives on sale for $61 at buy.com 08:25 <@Dolemite> How many TB should I bump my MythTV system up to? hehehehe 08:25 < TheLightCosine> what's it at now? 08:26 <@Dolemite> about 1.5TB 08:26 < TheLightCosine> crank that baby up to 6 =P 08:26 <@Dolemite> Well, ~ 500GB for live recordings and 1 TB for transcoded videos 08:28 < TheLightCosine> are you just usi8ng it as a TIVO killer or as a full fledged media server? 08:30 <@Dolemite> It's a full fledged multi-room media center 08:30 < TheLightCosine> yeah you definately need more =P 08:31 <@Dolemite> I have a frontend in the family room, a backend/frontend in the media room, a backend/frontend in my office, and a remote XBox Media Center attached to the storage in the master bedroom. 08:31 <@Dolemite> When 2.0 gets a little older I'll probably move the XBMC into his room and get another frontend for the master bedroom. 08:31 < TheLightCosine> I'm looking at my options for a dedicated media server, and I'm figuring i'll need at minimum 4TB 08:31 < TheLightCosine> right now i'm just running TVersity off my Windows desktop 08:31 <@Dolemite> Well right now I'm nowhere near close to filling my storage up 08:32 <@Dolemite> but 1TB added would buy another year, at least 08:32 < TheLightCosine> I have an unhealthy relationship with TPB 08:32 < TheLightCosine> I had Verizon fiOS for a year , and i just haven't broken the habit despite being forced back to comcast 08:34 < TheLightCosine> well i'm also plainning to use the same box as a NAS for other stuff as well 08:34 < TheLightCosine> not just audio/video 08:35 <@Dolemite> That's what I do, too, but I still don't have that much worth keeping 08:35 <@Dolemite> However, I do need to seriously get to work on XVID encoding my 400+ DVD collection 08:36 -!- nated0g_wrk [i=nated0g@river191.bigriver.net] has joined #se2600 08:36 < nated0g_wrk> wassabi!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 08:37 < TheLightCosine> my biggest problem right now is i have a bunch of anime in mkv files, and i'm trying to get directshow to transcode the embeeded subtitltes correctly 08:40 < TheLightCosine> i undfortunately don't know alot about video encoding so i'm kind of stumbling my way thriough it 08:41 < TheLightCosine> still kinda fun though 08:41 < TheLightCosine> i always enjoy getting up to my elbows in something i didn't know about before 08:48 <@Dolemite> so why are you trying to convert the files? 08:48 <@Dolemite> mplayer will play mkv's 08:48 < TheLightCosine> streaming to my PS3 08:48 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o remoford] by ChanServ 08:49 <@Dolemite> Ah, well you can always use mencoder 08:49 < TheLightCosine> ~google mencoder 08:49 < TheLightCosine> hey the bot is gone' 08:49 <@Dolemite> http://forum.videohelp.com/topic268844.html 08:50 < TheLightCosine> ah it's a file converter tho, not an actual transcoder right? 08:50 <@Dolemite> no, it's a full on transcoder 08:50 <@Dolemite> http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/mkv-subtitles-t323355.html 08:51 < TheLightCosine> sweet 08:52 < TheLightCosine> i'll have to check that out 08:52 < TheLightCosine> during the course of trying to get it to work on Tversity, i tried a different mkv encoder, when it didn't work i tried to revert back and now mkvs won't stream correctly at all lol 08:53 < TheLightCosine> part of what's got me confused is it seems like TVersity has it's own copy of DirectShow that can exist simultaneously and idnependantly of another install of it 09:06 * rhia wanders through on the way to the coffee pot & waves in the general direction of the channel 09:07 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 09:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o M0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 09:07 < TheLightCosine> morning rhia 09:07 * brimstone shatters the coffee pot with a wrist rocket from across the room and bolts for the door 09:09 <@rhia> morning, TLC 09:09 <@rhia> brimstone: you think a temple devotee to the Great Goddess Kaffiennia doesn't have backups? 09:10 <@brimstone> heh 09:10 * brimstone takes it as a challenge 09:11 * M0j0-j0j0 knocks down the wall with his tank and fires his coffee cannon. 09:12 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:12 <@rhia> brimstone: got a LOT of coffee houses to battle ;) 09:13 <@Drag0n> http://wooga.drbacchus.com/raicm 09:14 <@M0j0-j0j0> weaponized coffee. I think that's what those "Coffee Nip" things are 09:14 <@rhia> Kaffiennia's followers are legion =) 09:14 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@60-24.9-67.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 09:14 <@Drag0n> raicm redundant array of independent coffee machines 09:14 <+Peaches84> hey whats up guys 09:15 <@M0j0-j0j0> hey hey Peaches84 09:15 <@rhia> heya, Peaches84 09:15 <+Peaches84> whats going on 09:16 <@Drag0n> http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/05/13/448876.aspx 09:16 <@Drag0n> and yes, that is safe for work 09:17 <+Peaches84> lol 09:19 <@Shadow404> thats awesome 09:19 <+Peaches84> brb going to get my cinnimon rolls just cain't spell this morninng 09:19 < TheLightCosine> that's great 09:23 -!- ziplock [i=nobody@pdpc/supporter/professional/ziplock] has joined #se2600 09:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ziplock] by ChanServ 09:25 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:25 <+Peaches84> mmm good stuff so wahts eveyone up to 09:25 * Lissa pokes rhia 09:26 <@Lissa> i'm pokin' rhia 09:26 <@Lissa> you? 09:26 * rhia pokes Lissa 09:27 <@Lissa> how's you? 09:27 <@rhia> s'ok - yourself? 09:28 <@Lissa> couldn't find my yellow highlighter...had to find another one. realized it was in my pocket 09:29 <@Drag0n> http://www.crazydogtshirts.com/servlet/Detail?no=1315 09:29 <@Lissa> also found out that one of my patient's has a "Heroes" fetish. She just had twins...named one Sylar and the other Peter....i was like...that's WAY too kookie to be coincidence, right? 09:29 <@Drag0n> my kind of morning math 09:30 <@rhia> Lissa: hehe 09:30 <@Lissa> now...Nathan and Peter, I MIGHT have let slide...but Sylar? yeh. 09:31 <@rhia> maybe she's also a fan of the movie The Omen 09:31 <@Lissa> perhaps 09:31 <@Lissa> but...tonight's episode of Heroes better be good. 09:31 <@rhia> good twin/bad twin 09:32 <@Lissa> or I'm gonna get all pissy 09:32 <@brimstone> i'm gonna name my twins Righty and Lefty 09:32 <@rhia> Thing One and Thing Two 09:32 <@Drag0n> first and last 09:32 <@rhia> then they can see themselves in The Cat and The Hat 09:32 <@brimstone> Alpha and Beta? 09:32 <@ziplock> Sandy and Coral 09:33 * ziplock retired beachbum 09:33 <@rhia> ziplock: beach party leftovers? 09:33 <@Drag0n> zeta and theta 09:33 <@Lissa> Thelma and Louise? 09:33 <@rhia> Don't let them get a convertible 09:34 <@Lissa> or brad pitt 09:34 <@Lissa> :D 09:34 <@rhia> hehe 09:34 <@Drag0n> name them both the dread pirate roberts 09:35 <@Lissa> Or...Man In Black 09:35 <@Lissa> could you imagine...oh hai. what's your name? "Man in Black Smith" 09:35 <@rhia> hehe 09:36 <@brimstone> "manny for short" 09:36 * Lissa nods 09:36 <@Lissa> When I have kids...I'm gonna hire a manny instead of a nanny 09:36 <@Lissa> i think that would be nifty 09:37 <@ziplock> Ben and Jerry 09:39 <@Lissa> Siskel and Ebert 09:41 <@Dolemite> I just read Neil Gaiman's, "The Graveyard Book". The main character in it is named Nobody Owens. 09:41 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:41 <@Dolemite> Q: Who are you? A: Nobody. 09:42 < TheLightCosine> lol 09:42 < TheLightCosine> typical gaiman 09:43 < TheLightCosine> he's a cool dude though, I met him at the LoC book Fair one year 09:43 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I got his autograph at Dragon*Con the first year he was there... back when he was unknown enough that you could find him and talk to him for a few minutes 09:44 < TheLightCosine> unknown? 09:44 < TheLightCosine> how lnog ago was that lol 09:44 < TheLightCosine> Sandman was like early 80s wasn't it? 09:45 <@Dolemite> late 80s 09:45 <@Dolemite> I think his first appearance at Dragon*Con was in 88 or 89 09:45 < TheLightCosine> ah 09:45 <@Dolemite> It was the year that Good Omens came out. I got him to sign my copy, along with several Sandman books. 09:45 < TheLightCosine> yeah I met Gaiman and George r. r. Martin that same fair 09:45 < TheLightCosine> that was an awesome day 09:45 <@remoford> bert and ernie 09:47 <@Shadow404> remoford: i was on a vendor meet call with bert and ernie once 09:47 <@Shadow404> they were from verizon and att 09:47 <@Shadow404> we couldnt stop lauging about that the whole time 09:47 < TheLightCosine> that was the same day i almsot chewed out Andrea Mitchell 09:50 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:54 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 09:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 09:54 -!- jb7[D] [n=jb7od@216.24.201.15] has joined #se2600 09:56 -!- vaneck [n=vaneck@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 09:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o vaneck] by ChanServ 09:58 <@polerin> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122602394113507555.html 09:58 <@polerin> holy shit 10:00 <@rhia> Blessed Excrement? 10:01 <@rhia> hmmmm.... interesting 10:02 <+eryc> http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1902518888 10:02 <@ShadowHntr> what's the minimum age to be a bartender in tennessee 10:02 <@ShadowHntr> anyone know? 10:02 <@Lissa> rhia...you live in texas, right? 10:02 <@Lissa> ShadowHntr: 18 10:02 <@ShadowHntr> cool 10:03 <@ShadowHntr> Lissa: i'm brainstorming job ideas for my 18-year-old brother who's moving tomorrow from seattle to the nashville area 10:04 <@ShadowHntr> he doesn't drink, but he may enjoy bartending, i saw some job postings from bartending schools on careerbuilder 10:04 <@rhia> Lissa: Dallas, yeah 10:04 <@Lissa> ShadowHntr: ah. publix is hiring too. they pay their people pretty well and their benefits are very good. 10:05 <@ShadowHntr> cool - thanks for the ideas 10:05 <@ShadowHntr> :) 10:05 <@Lissa> rhia: i hate texas. stupid 95 DAY timely filing limit for claims. 10:05 <@polerin> ShadowHntr: if nothing else that's a starting place :P 10:05 <@ShadowHntr> yeap 10:06 <@Shadow404> ShadowHntr: they always have jobs for sanitation engineers 10:06 <@polerin> ShadowHntr: also, bar tendign schools are fail. if he wants to do bar tending he needs to try to get a job at ruby tusdays 10:06 <@ShadowHntr> polerin: he's gonna be living with my dad, so he's gonna help in his job search as well, but i want to help him find one too 10:06 <@ShadowHntr> Shadow404: that's true 10:06 <@polerin> ShadowHntr: they will teach him far better than any school will... those schools are pretty much rip's 10:06 <@Lissa> and it's getting to be that holiday time again and retail is going to be hiring because they always need people 10:06 <@Shadow404> and then quickly let you go after that season is over 10:06 <@Lissa> polerin: it's not Ruby Tuesdays...it's TGI Fridays 10:06 <@Shadow404> haha 10:07 <@Lissa> if you work as a bartender for Friday's you can pretty much get a job as a bartender anywhere else. 10:07 <@Lissa> I heard that Shadow404 is hiring 10:08 <@Shadow404> Lissa: boobs are a requirement 10:08 <@Shadow404> previous experience is not a plus.... 10:08 <@Shadow404> lawl 10:08 <@Lissa> you're awful, Tyler 10:08 <@Shadow404> hehe 10:08 <@Lissa> what about Moobs? 10:08 <@Lissa> they say, all you need is a handful 10:08 <@Lissa> right? 10:09 <@Shadow404> that will be an immediate dismissal of application 10:09 < nated0g> hey lissa, long time no see 10:09 * Lissa waves 10:09 <@Shadow404> someone kick verizon new york in the balls and tell them to answer their damn phone already 10:09 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 10:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 10:09 <@Lissa> they don't have balls. they have bars. 10:10 < nated0g_wrk> i thought that was att 10:10 <@Lissa> :D 10:10 <@Lissa> they're all the same to me 10:12 <@Lissa> I need to go to Aldi tonight and get a bunch of food for the Second Harvest Food Bank. 10:12 < nated0g_wrk> hey Shadow404 what ham radio you got? 10:12 <@Lissa> they're seriously low on food 10:13 <@Shadow404> nated0g_wrk: vx-7r 10:14 <@Shadow404> Lissa: survival of the fittest, come on, your just delaying the unevitable 10:14 < nated0g_wrk> thats a handheld right? 10:15 <@Shadow404> aye 10:15 <@Shadow404> HT 10:15 < nated0g_wrk> work good in vehicles? 10:15 -!- nachoguy [i=boster@ivan.dreamhost.com] has joined #se2600 10:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o nachoguy] by ChanServ 10:15 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 10:16 < nated0g_wrk> morning nachoguy 10:17 <@Shadow404> nated0g_wrk: yes, but you need an external whip for sure 10:17 <@Shadow404> the rubber ducki is crap 10:17 < nated0g_wrk> yep remember reading that in the test material 10:18 < nated0g_wrk> what about a small magnet mount? 10:18 <@Lissa> Shadow404: heh. I guess I'm just one of those really caring people who gives a rats ass what happens to people. :) Character flaw...what can I say? 10:18 < TheLightCosine> interesting, a buffer overflow in the way NDISwrapper handles ESSIDs 10:20 <@Shadow404> nated0g_wrk: thats what i use 10:20 <+Peaches84> later off to work 10:20 < nated0g_wrk> ok. im going to go look at them tomorrow since im off work 10:20 <@Shadow404> Lissa: you'll learn eventually that you cant help anyone 10:20 <@Shadow404> nated0g_wrk: awesome, tell me how it goes 10:20 < nated0g_wrk> either going to get handheld or the 2800 10:20 <@Shadow404> i see, handheld is a nice first radio 10:21 <@Shadow404> going to ge a base station on loan for somoene soon 10:21 <@Shadow404> and then i want to get a vehicle mount station 10:21 <+eryc> Shadow404: stfu 10:21 <@Shadow404> and use the HT for field days 10:21 <@Shadow404> eryc: diaf 10:22 <@Lissa> Shadow404: very doubtful. I'm a philanthropist at heart. 10:22 -!- vaneck [n=vaneck@255114127.ecsis.net] has left #se2600 ["Leaving"] 10:24 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #se2600 10:24 <@polerin> Shadow404: wait.. how old are you? 10:24 <@Shadow404> your point? 10:25 <@polerin> no, i'm just curious. IIRC you're younger than us. You don't get to play the "eventuall you'll learn" card :P 10:25 <@Shadow404> heh 10:25 <@Shadow404> 25 10:25 <@polerin> yeah 10:25 <@polerin> not that we're that much older, but still 10:26 <@Shadow404> supposedly 10:28 <@Lissa> I dunno...as I get older, I've become calmer but I have less tolerance for assholes. *shrug* 10:28 < nated0g_wrk> Shadow404, nice radio 10:28 < nated0g_wrk> quad band! 10:28 <@Shadow404> aye, i like it so far 10:28 <@Shadow404> hard case is a plus 10:28 < nated0g_wrk> 50mhz is that 6meters? 10:28 <@Shadow404> dorpped it twice, no damage 10:28 <@Shadow404> nated0g_wrk: err, id have to look it up 10:29 <@Shadow404> Lissa: thats a sign you may be getting senial 10:29 * Shadow404 ducks 10:29 < nated0g_wrk> yes 6m 10:29 < TheLightCosine> senial hunh? 10:29 < nated0g_wrk> had to look at my bandchart 10:29 < TheLightCosine> is that like senile? 10:30 <@Shadow404> yeah, what u said TheLightCosine 10:30 <@Shadow404> nated0g_wrk: same and i do concur 10:30 < nated0g_wrk> im looking at the 3r for HT 10:30 < nated0g_wrk> 169 local 10:31 <@polerin> Shadow404: GET OFF MAH LAWN! 10:31 <@Shadow404> heh 10:31 <@Shadow404> she started it 10:33 <@Lissa> heh. 10:33 <@Lissa> i did not 10:33 <@Lissa> you did 10:34 <@Lissa> i think senial is a mixture between senile and denial. Neither of which, I am. 10:34 <@polerin> you're just in denial about it 10:35 <@Shadow404> he said it, not me 10:35 < nated0g_wrk> what are you saying that she is the queen of denile?! 10:35 < nated0g_wrk> yep bad joke 10:35 <@polerin> nated0g_wrk: seeing as of the two of us I'm the one that actually has fished in the nile, I'd say that I'm closer to that then her ;P 10:36 <@Lissa> i know erin is in denial 10:36 <@Lissa> she bathes regularly 10:36 < nated0g_wrk> so your queen of the nile? 10:37 < nated0g_wrk> polerin=female...just so i know? 10:37 <@polerin> yesssss? 10:37 <@polerin> :P 10:37 * Lissa nods 10:38 <@Lissa> and nated0g is male, and i'm lissa 10:39 <@Lissa> so now that we did everything but sniff each others butts to get aquainted...whuzzup? 10:39 <@polerin> you lyeeeeeeeee 10:39 <@Shadow404> someone needs to wipe better, pppuuuu 10:39 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 10:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 10:39 <@polerin> Shadow404: dood. stop sniffing your own butt. 10:39 <@polerin> seriously. 10:40 <@Lissa> lawl 10:40 <@polerin> hi uf :) 10:41 < nated0g_wrk> if you wanna sniff my butt feel free lissa. dont think my wife or ethan would apperciate that 10:43 * polerin blinks 10:43 <@Shadow404> lawl 10:43 <@polerin> uh 10:43 <@polerin> heh 10:43 * Lissa giggles 10:43 <@polerin> brb. nate, need to have a word with you 10:43 <@polerin> XD 10:43 <@Lissa> priceless. 10:45 <@nachoguy> hehe 10:51 <@polerin> nated0g_wrk: identify with nickserv damnit :P 10:52 < nated0g_wrk> ok what is the command to register nic 10:52 < nated0g_wrk> cant freaking find it 10:53 <@polerin> nated0g_wrk: never mind.. apparently freenode changed something. I got your /msg 10:53 -!- juice [i=juice@65.28.101.34] has quit [] 10:58 <@wontonjoe> E=MC 2 10:58 <@wontonjoe> 2 CM=E 10:59 <@wontonjoe> cm/mc/2e/e2 10:59 <@Dolemite> F=MC Hammer 10:59 <@wontonjoe> exactly! 11:00 <@wontonjoe> monday does suck, I am sooo tired 11:00 <@ShadowHntr> LOL 11:00 <@ShadowHntr> :) 11:01 <@wontonjoe> but I spent the evening in the company of a beautiful lady concert and dinner, you can always trade a good night for a bad day 11:01 < nated0g_wrk> ok i am registered and identified on both names 11:03 <@rhia> lady concert? like the 12 Girls Band? ;) 11:03 <@Lissa> Oh...that was bad rhia 11:03 <@Lissa> bad bad rhia 11:04 <@wontonjoe> lol 11:05 <@Drag0n> for a single male, being alone with 12 gifted ladies could be fun...tiring, but fun 11:05 <@wontonjoe> no rhia one young lady who is from michigan and one phsychedelic surf rock band 11:06 <@wontonjoe> define gifted 11:06 <@Drag0n> intentionally left undefined 11:07 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has joined #se2600 11:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 11:07 <@wontonjoe> my mind is always in the gutter, fortunately I dont mind 11:07 <@polerin> hehe 11:08 <@rhia> wontonjoe: there you go, getting all high and mighty, sitting up above the rest of us in your gutter 11:09 <@Lissa> i have gutter guard 11:09 <@Lissa> :D 11:09 <@wontonjoe> yes I look down upon you all from my glutunous gutter! 11:09 <@rhia> heh 11:09 <@Lissa> no wontonjoe's in my gutter 11:09 <@Drag0n> just whisk those pesky clean thoughts...and leaves away 11:11 <@wontonjoe> what am I now some gutter missionary, seriously you gotta buy me dinner first! 11:11 <@wontonjoe> of all the things ive lost I miss my mind the most 11:12 <@wontonjoe> now im just typing randomly, three hours of sleep is like getting drunk for me, no brain to mouth filter 11:12 <@wontonjoe> its a good thing i dont have to talk to people at work 11:15 * wontonjoe wonders if his stlker ex gf took a break today or has given up 11:15 <@wontonjoe> yes ive got a stalker 11:15 <@wontonjoe> yay 11:16 < nated0g_wrk> congrats 11:16 < TheLightCosine> some homemade pperspray will clear that right up =P 11:16 <@rhia> k... read that as you have a sticker ..... 11:16 < TheLightCosine> er *pepperspray 11:16 <@wontonjoe> oh its awesome, I mean i love going to local events and being able to see the same person repeatedly out of the corner of my eye 11:17 <@Drag0n> of all the things i've lost, its my mind i miss the least!!! 11:18 <@wontonjoe> you know whats fun though, is when you bring a girl to said event and stalker meets them, stalker gets pissed and tries to hit on friends, who think stalker is crazy, stalker gets frustrated, stalker leaves, poor stalker, no soup for you! 11:19 <@Drag0n> stalkers, lifes way of reminding you that you are loved very, very, very, very, very..... much 11:20 < nated0g_wrk> sumbtch 11:21 <@wontonjoe> I must be a friggin celebrity around here 11:22 <@Drag0n> stalkers, lifes way of reminding you that there are plenty of more desperate people out there. 11:22 <@Drag0n> do you have a papparatzi? 11:22 <@wontonjoe> be careful what you wish for, I was like I hate being single, then along came sally stalker to let me know even after i broke up with her i would never truly be alone again 11:23 <@wontonjoe> no, I do have a few friends who make up a camera crew, we film local events like concerts, usually in bootleg fashion 11:23 <@Drag0n> so YOU are the papparrazzi? 11:23 <@wontonjoe> indeed 11:24 <@Drag0n> hehe 11:25 < nated0g_wrk> how do you kick a username or get nickserv to do it? 11:25 <@brimstone> /msg nickserv ghost username password 11:27 -!- nated0g [n=Nathan@74.221.8.176] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:27 -!- nated0g [n=Nathan@74.221.8.176] has joined #se2600 11:27 < nated0g_wrk> thx 11:28 <@wontonjoe> brimstone, fire and 11:28 <@wontonjoe> enotsmirb 11:31 <@polerin> god 11:31 <@polerin> damn 11:32 -!- RyanHouse [n=RHouse@72.54.131.86] has joined #se2600 11:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RyanHouse] by ChanServ 11:32 <@polerin> I hate dumbass hack idiot contract coders who don't bother to think or learn the framework 11:32 <@polerin> who the hell uses signifigant variables named $e 11:32 <@polerin> that are used across methods 11:35 < C-P> thats kinda the idea with contract coders though, get it done with the least amount of work and time 11:35 <@polerin> when I can reduce ~200 lines into 12, someone's just not trying. 11:35 <@polerin> C-P: not neccisarily 11:35 <@polerin> I'm a contract coder 11:35 < C-P> well, ill avoid backpedling then 11:36 <@polerin> but these idiots were working hard at being stupid 11:36 < C-P> I know the feeling, a lot of the code I (used to) work with we outsourced to the philipenes 11:36 < C-P> they would write HTML, but they only knew how to style td objects 11:37 < C-P> so everything would be wrapped in superfluous s for styling 11:37 <@polerin> heh 11:38 < C-P> my company once outsourced a simple project to them for quite a bit of money, and the phills just used lightbox to do it 11:39 < C-P> hell, if they want to spend upwords of 10 grand for some open source code I will be happy to move to the other side of the world 11:41 <@polerin> well 11:41 <@polerin> We code off of an opensource framework 11:41 <@polerin> CakePHP 11:41 <@polerin> but we are some of the better Cake dev's around 11:43 < nated0g_wrk> speaking of cake..i smell cake 11:43 < nated0g_wrk> whos baking? 11:43 < C-P> its a lie 11:46 <@Shadow404> thats special brownies, not cake 11:46 < nated0g_wrk> never had them 11:46 <@Drag0n> -sisi 11:47 <@Drag0n> damn, wrong keyboard 11:47 <@polerin> heh 11:48 <@Drag0n> well, i have 3 here 11:52 < nated0g_wrk> so i need opinion. im going to help a friend with some computers at her office. what should i charge? 11:52 < nated0g_wrk> its for a missionary church 11:53 <@rhia> mega church or little chite clapboard building type church? 11:54 <@polerin> arg lag 11:54 <@Lissa> your mom has lag 11:54 < nated0g_wrk> little church 11:54 < nated0g_wrk> def not a mega church 11:54 <@rhia> mega- church, typical going business rate - they're a tax-free industry, itty bitty church, dunno - personal call 11:55 -!- Drag0n changed the topic of #se2600 to: Prepare for Monday | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/funny-pictures-cat-is-not-coming-out-until-monday-is-gone.jpg 12:01 <@polerin> nated0g_wrk: I can't really comment. Unless it's a fairly liberal church I'd be charging going rate regardless :/ 12:01 <@polerin> unless it was something I was a member of 12:01 <@polerin> but then, I'm biased 12:01 < nated0g_wrk> oh and its for my ex 12:01 < nated0g_wrk> i was told about a ex tax 12:02 <@Drag0n> well, any loss you would take for a lesser rate could be written off as a charitable contribution, i would imagine 12:02 -!- TheLightCosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9ecffdb7e7832426] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 12:04 <@polerin> nated0g_wrk: what kind of ex, because that can be a whole buch of different things 12:05 <+eryc> nated0g_wrk: you can charge the missionary rate 12:06 < nated0g_wrk> is that in da butt rate eryc? 12:06 < nated0g_wrk> ex girlfriend 12:06 <+eryc> plus in arears ex tax 12:09 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@168.28.136.17] has joined #se2600 12:28 <@polerin> need food 12:31 < cwire> me too and i'm out of ramen! 12:39 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@60-24.9-67.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:41 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 12:44 -!- Dementia_ [n=sara@maxiez.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:02 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I got my fiery pony last night 13:02 <@Dolemite> Sweet. I heard you were helping warebe0tch get his, too. 13:03 <@Evilpig> yeah but he wasn't done with the quest like I was the first time 13:03 <@Dolemite> hahahahaha 13:05 <@sdodson> hi 13:05 <@Dolemite> oh hai! 13:06 <@sdodson> Dolemite: what's new my brotha? 13:06 -!- ziplock [i=nobody@pdpc/supporter/professional/ziplock] has left #se2600 [] 13:06 <@Dolemite> Nothing much, just getting all excited about 2.0's 3rd birthday. We're making a choo choo cake! 13:06 <@sdodson> Are you one of the elitests we hear about? 13:06 <@Dolemite> I don't know. I'm too out of touch with reality to know for sure. lol 13:06 <@sdodson> Dolemite: cool 13:07 <@Dolemite> I have kickbanned ware many times. If that's the criteria, then so be it. 13:07 <@rhia> 3 already? sheesh 13:07 <@Dolemite> Yep, and 2.2 is due on Mother's Day 13:07 < cwire> a choo choo cake, eh? 13:07 < cwire> like a 3d one or just has trains on it and such 13:08 <@Dolemite> cwire : Yep, and not just a square cake with a train on it. We found a pan with the various train car shapes. 13:08 < cwire> nice 13:08 <@Dolemite> My wife decorates cakes, too, so she's making a track to set it on and everything 13:08 < cwire> ah, very cool 13:08 <@rhia> when his b'day? 13:08 < cwire> i'm sure it'll go over well 13:09 <@Dolemite> 24th, but we're doing the party at day care tomorrow 13:09 <@Dolemite> He gets 2 parties. I just bring home the bacon and I don't get a party. :P 13:10 <@rhia> best place to give cake to 3 yr olds - where someone else has to clean them up 13:10 <@polerin> heheh 13:10 <@polerin> isn't that the truth 13:10 < cwire> hehe 13:10 <@Dolemite> The first party was the best, when we gave him an extra cake just to squash with his hands and get all over him. 13:10 <@Dolemite> Some of the best pictures came from that 13:11 < cwire> my friend's kid had his traditional "fucking own the cake" 1st birthday and they had to take him, high chair and all into the bath tub lest he get cake on the house 13:11 -!- juice [n=juice@65.28.103.54] has joined #se2600 13:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o juice] by ChanServ 13:11 <@Dolemite> we put down garbage bags under the high chair 13:12 <@Dolemite> afterwards I had to carry him at arms length straight to the tub 13:12 < cwire> haha 13:13 <@rhia> sept and oct kids - both 1sts were held outside - with the hose handy 13:13 < cwire> that sounds like the way to do it 13:13 < cwire> sucks if you're a december baby, you get hypothermia as a present too :-P 13:14 <@rhia> if giggling manically for a solid hour means anything, think it went over well for them, too 13:14 <@rhia> cwire: babysicles! 13:15 < cwire> :-D 13:18 <@sdodson> Dolemite: is that a boy or a girl? 13:19 <@Dolemite> We don't know yet for 2.2 13:19 <@Dolemite> er, 2.3 13:19 <@sdodson> you have three kids? 13:19 <@Dolemite> no 13:19 <@Dolemite> 2.1 and 2.2 were miscarried 13:19 <@sdodson> oh my bad 13:19 <@sdodson> sorry to hear that 13:20 <@Dolemite> it happens 13:20 <@Dolemite> more common than people talk about 13:20 <@sdodson> Ya. 13:21 <@Evilpig> I was gonna make a joke in poor taste so just leer at me like I did and I won't 13:22 <@rhia> bad piggie 13:22 <@Dolemite> Let me guess... something about ware and then miscarriages not being common enough 13:22 <@rhia> there, is that better? 13:22 <@Evilpig> well I hadn't gone that route. but damnit I totally should have 13:23 <@sdodson> such ware hate 13:23 < cwire> yeah, i seem to have missed the channel drama but picked up enough from the emails 13:23 < cwire> by the way rhia, that was really well written :) 13:23 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 13:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 13:25 * rhia blushes 13:25 <@rhia> i tend to, er, get a wee bit ... verbose when ranting 13:25 -!- TheLightCosine [i=62d3286d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-46edf67fc312f704] has joined #se2600 13:25 < cwire> that's not a bad thing 13:26 < cwire> but i did almost have to get a pot of coffee going for it :-P 13:26 <@rhia> heh 13:26 <@coil> pot? somebody said pot? 13:27 < cwire> not that kind! 13:27 < cwire> unforutnately 13:27 < cwire> unfortunately* 13:28 <@coil> aww 13:28 * coil goes back to not talkin 13:28 < cwire> hah 13:29 < cwire> anyone here a fan of takashi miike movies? 13:29 <@Dolemite> gezundheit 13:30 < cwire> haha 13:30 < TheLightCosine> cwire: a bit 13:30 < TheLightCosine> Brother was fucking awesome 13:30 < cwire> visitor q will fuck you up a bit 13:31 < cwire> i'm watching audition now, haven't seen it in a while 13:31 < TheLightCosine> er wait 13:31 < TheLightCosine> i'm confusing people 13:31 < TheLightCosine> takashi miike is the horror director 13:31 < cwire> right 13:31 < TheLightCosine> i was thinking of beat takeshi =P 13:31 < cwire> ah! 13:31 < TheLightCosine> takashi miike is a little too freaky for me 13:32 < cwire> hehe 13:32 < TheLightCosine> even Ichi the Killer was really out there 13:33 < cwire> actually audition is probably one of the least freaky of his that i can think of 13:33 < cwire> yeah, ichi the killer's a bit weird 13:33 < cwire> and his special for master's of horror was crazy 13:33 < TheLightCosine> i heard the great yokai war is supposed to be good tho 13:34 < TheLightCosine> oh but he did Yakuza Demon which is one my favorite japenese movies of all time 13:34 < cwire> haven't seen that one 13:35 < cwire> his stuff is hard to find 13:35 < cwire> well it has been for me 13:35 < TheLightCosine> try and find Yakuza Demon if you can 13:35 < TheLightCosine> it's not horror, it's a straight up yakuza crime drama 13:35 < TheLightCosine> and it is totally badass 13:36 < TheLightCosine> also, if you're into asian Horror i recommend looking into Korean cinema, such as Oldboy and H 13:36 < cwire> actually i haven't even tried netflix to see if they have his stuff, may be a jackpot! 13:36 < TheLightCosine> Oldboy" , and "H" rather, two sep movies 13:36 < cwire> yeah i love what asian horror i've seen 13:37 < TheLightCosine> Oldboy is brilliant but at the end of it you're probably going to want to throw up 13:37 < cwire> haha 13:37 < TheLightCosine> I did, and I could even stomach the murder-abortion scene in H 13:37 < cwire> sweet, they had it on netflix 13:37 < cwire> most of his movies in fact 13:37 < TheLightCosine> i'm told the other movies in the trilogy with oldboy are worse too 13:38 < cwire> nice 13:38 < cwire> i can be a fan of just sick horror 13:38 < TheLightCosine> it's not even gore, it's psychological 13:38 < TheLightCosine> oldboy is not sick like "guts hanging out" sick, it's "oh my god, what the fuck!" 13:38 < cwire> ah, yeah 13:39 < cwire> that's the way visitor q is 13:39 -!- Mirage [n=mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 13:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 13:40 <@coil> hippo 13:41 < cwire> god i could be on netflix all day adding asian horror 13:42 < cwire> i'm retarded, i could've had a lot of his stuff much sooner, but i tend to equate netflix with mainstream 13:42 < TheLightCosine> heh 13:42 < TheLightCosine> ug i'm retarded i just signed up for the mailing lists with my gmail 13:43 < TheLightCosine> and you can't setup folders in gmail 13:43 < cwire> you kind of can 13:43 < cwire> you can use filters and labels 13:43 < cwire> that's what i do 13:43 < TheLightCosine> meh 13:43 < cwire> seems to work out pretty good 13:44 < TheLightCosine> i'm just too stuck on having rules and folders 13:44 < TheLightCosine> work spoils me in that regard 13:44 < cwire> haha 13:44 < cwire> i tend to think of them as folders even though they're really not 13:46 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@c-75-66-111-159.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:48 < TheLightCosine> the problem is labels don't actually clear out the main inbox 13:48 < TheLightCosine> so it makes it no easier to sort throug the miscellany 13:48 < cwire> well you can have them skip the inbox and just go to their respective label 13:48 <@coil> np: Silverchair - Stoned - Mallrats - 2:45 13:49 < cwire> so you can jump to that group 13:50 < cwire> helps keep the inbox clear 13:50 < TheLightCosine> ah brilliant 13:50 < TheLightCosine> thank you 13:51 < cwire> np 14:03 <@remoford> yeah actually the gmail filters and labels is about as awesome of a mailing list system as ive ever used 14:04 <@remoford> lets you provide multiple views on them 14:06 < TheLightCosine> i really should go throguh and unsubscribe from some of the stupid newsletters i've ended up on lol 14:06 < TheLightCosine> i get shit from vmware and redback lol 14:07 < TheLightCosine> i dunno how i ended up with vmware newsletters, and i haven't worked with redback aggregators in over a year heh 14:11 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has joined #se2600 14:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-lap] by ChanServ 14:19 <@oddball> mother fucking wasps. Don't they know they're supposed to be sleeping at this time of year? 14:21 <@Dolemite> oddball : They're too busy driving their kids to ballet and soccer. 14:22 <@Dolemite> Oh, wait, you mean the winged insects. 14:23 < TheLightCosine> lol 14:24 < cwire> :-D 14:26 <@ShadowHntr> lol 14:33 <@oddball> I'm at our new office in Columbia doing setup, and the reception area is overrun by the fuckers. I stepped on three, went to get some Raid, have killed at least 8 more with that, and there's still at least two buzzing around. 14:33 -!- M0j0-j0j1 [n=Mojo_Joj@152.52.16.3] has joined #se2600 14:34 -!- M0j0-j0j1 is now known as M0j0-j0j0 14:34 <@polerin> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/08/AR2008110801856.html 14:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o M0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 14:34 <@polerin> from rhia... interesting policy read 14:43 -!- Irongeek [n=adrian@unaffiliated/irongeek] has joined #se2600 14:43 -!- Irongeek [n=adrian@unaffiliated/irongeek] has left #se2600 [] 14:44 -!- Irongeek [n=adrian@unaffiliated/irongeek] has joined #se2600 14:44 <@rhia> heh, figured the channel was a bit politically worn out - but the main thing I liked about that article is that perhaps science won't be ignored any more 14:47 <@polerin> yeah 14:49 -!- Irongeek [n=adrian@unaffiliated/irongeek] has quit ["Leaving."] 14:50 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [No route to host] 14:51 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has joined #se2600 14:51 <@Drag0n> http://www.crazydogtshirts.com/servlet/the-1615/state-t-shirt%2C-state/Detail 14:57 <@sdodson> Anyone know the differences between various VMWare hardware versions? 14:57 <@sdodson> Namely differences between 6 and 7. 14:59 <@Dolemite> ask mirage, he does a lot of ESX stuff these days 15:00 <@Drag0n> is that workstation or esx server? i didnt thing esx had reached that version level yet 15:01 <@sdodson> Drag0n: VMWare Server 2.0. 15:01 <@Drag0n> ahh, thats still in beta 15:01 <@sdodson> ESX 3.0+ is version 4. 15:01 <@sdodson> I'll just stick with version 4 unless there's a compelling reason to go to anything newer. 15:02 <@Drag0n> yeah, they are all cross compatable between systems 15:02 -!- Dementia [n=sara@maxiez.com] has joined #se2600 15:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dementia] by ChanServ 15:03 * rhia waves at Dementia 15:04 * Lissa waves at rhia 15:04 * Dementia waves in general 15:05 * rhia gets out the semaphore flags 15:05 * Drag0n watches the General come in the room 15:07 < cwire> wow, just listened to an mp3 of verizon losing at math 15:11 <@M0j0-j0j0> verizon seems to be losing at everything of late 15:11 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:14 <@Drag0n> http://www.crazydogtshirts.com/servlet/the-1585/snakes-on-a-plane/Detail 15:15 < cwire> lol that's awesome 15:16 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: omg people stayed way too late at the last meeting 15:17 <@Drag0n> for those pesky home improvement needs http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/07/16/m16-nail-gun-knocks.html 15:17 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: umm.. okay 15:19 <@M0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I think I'm going to beg off the entire issue. It just doesn't seem like this area has it together well enough for me to sign my name on the dotted line for anyways 15:20 <@M0j0-j0j0> It's disappointing as I've found some really great spaces for such a venture... but if I can't get people to show up and drink my alcohol.. why would I put my credit on the line expecting them to chip in on rent 15:21 <@scort> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/getthefacts.gif 15:22 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: what venture? 15:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: I wanted to get the Raleigh group together and forge a hackerspace/makers shop type thing 15:23 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: at this point I feel like I would get left holding the bag 15:26 <@rhia> yeah, starting ventures like that benefit the most from established community connections first 15:28 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: yeah, but Raleigh has a fairly well established community... at least at meetings.. but it seems like after that... not so much 15:32 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: I hate to lose the space I'm looking into, but I can't sustain it for a couple of years with people pull it together either.. I can either waste the money trying to get something going that nobody seems interested in... or have Mickey Mouse serve my family Thanksgiving dinner at the top if Cinderella's castle... 15:32 <@M0j0-j0j0> I know which one I'm going to do 15:35 <@rhia> better than donald duck serving the turkey - might be a cousin or something 15:36 < nated0g_wrk> old people love to talk, called a guy about a subject now just talking 15:37 < cwire> you know it's going to be an interesting day when you have to send this email "I'm hoping it's a typo, but...did you say you're a man?" 15:37 <@M0j0-j0j0> nated0g_wrk: it's because we think you might be listening 15:38 < nated0g_wrk> ha ha 15:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> it's really all just flashing to cover up the sound of our real communications amongst the old person network 15:40 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: shhhh..... no secrets until they pass initiation 15:40 <@polerin> hehe 15:40 <@M0j0-j0j0> rhia: you don't think they're actually paying attention do you? 15:41 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: not really, but someone may be logging ;) 15:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> old person translator output for ^^: get on the interstate and drive real slow. Some of them are running late for an appointment on your route and it's important that they be fired so they can't get an economic upper hand on us. 15:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> doh! 15:43 < cwire> ok, it's a chick 15:43 < cwire> fucking typos 15:43 <@rhia> hehe, but we're not supposed to give out communications information until they collect their cane and "Keep Off My Lawn" sign 15:44 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 15:46 -!- jb7[D] [n=jb7od@216.24.201.15] has quit ["ESD!"] 15:47 <@aestetix> So uh. 15:47 <@aestetix> Any word on the PhreakNIC videso? :) 15:47 <@aestetix> videos* 15:47 <@M0j0-j0j0> aestetix: haha 15:47 < nated0g_wrk> he was a good guy to talk to tho. asking him about ham radio stuff 15:48 <@aestetix> I really wanna see Decius's rant. 15:48 <@aestetix> I was too drunk to remember any of it ;p 15:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> aestetix: I really want to see the "how to meet ladies" guy getting verbally accosted 15:49 < Cinotac> get off my lawn 15:50 < cwire> yeah, the getting ladies dude even managed to be douche like at the reg table 15:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> ^^ means: Someone buy something with exact change in front of this guy in line 15:50 < cwire> but i missed the talk 15:51 <@Dagmar> Okay, why didn't anyone ever mention the picoPSU when talking abotu car PC stuff? 15:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> cwire: in his defense.. I don't think he was used to a crowd of mixed gender OR that has anyone that's ever had any success in the romantic arena 15:51 <@Dagmar> Behold and rejoice: http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.417/.f 15:52 < cwire> haha 15:54 <@Dagmar> That is like "holy fuck" levels of small 15:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> brb 15:56 < Cinotac> its because there's very little work to be done 15:57 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@152.52.16.3] has quit ["Leaving."] 15:57 -!- jb7[D] [n=jb7od@216.24.201.15] has joined #se2600 15:57 <@Dagmar> Combine thta with http://techreport.com/discussions.x/15794 and you're just about freaking done 16:00 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 16:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o M0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 16:03 < cwire> wow, very unexpected, craigslist chicks must be easy, she just sent a bewb picture o_O 16:03 < cwire> i asked what kind of music she liked 16:04 <@brimstone> "what bands do you like?" "(.)(.)" 16:04 < cwire> pretty much 16:05 <@Dagmar> So she's probably not a great conversationalist then. 16:05 < cwire> not that i'm one to complain of course 16:05 <@brimstone> heh, force her to talk about music first 16:05 < cwire> "while your breasts are nice, you didn't answer my question governor palin" 16:06 <@brimstone> ah, the best of Craigslist Alaska 16:06 < cwire> lol 16:06 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:09 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@60-24.9-67.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 16:11 -!- TheLightCosine [i=62d3286d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-46edf67fc312f704] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 16:13 <@ShadowHntr> lol 16:13 <@ShadowHntr> is she back to being governor of alaska? 16:14 <@rhia> ShadowHntr: youbetcha 16:15 <@ShadowHntr> i feel sorry for them 16:15 < nated0g_wrk> wonder how much she got paid to be the nominee 16:18 <@polerin> as john stewart said... "Sarah Palin has been tagged and released back into the wild." 16:19 < cwire> lol 16:21 < Cinotac> http://www.pvponline.com/comics/pvp20081110.gif 16:21 < Cinotac> lmfao: "I'm gonna go farm me some Starbucks." 16:24 <@Dagmar> Yep 16:27 < Cinotac> http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/ 16:28 < Cinotac> lmfao: "USA Dental Command" 16:30 <@polerin> heheh 16:30 <@polerin> CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP 16:32 < Cinotac> I don't think I'll ever work outside of the private sector again. 16:34 <@polerin> ... why? 16:35 <@coil> EMA 16:35 <@coil> polerin, 16:35 <@polerin> coil: hmm? 16:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> polerin: cause he likes working with the privates 16:36 < cwire> zing! 16:37 <@M0j0-j0j0> poo poo pants 16:37 <@M0j0-j0j0> poo poo pants? 16:37 <@coil> who ordered the poo poo platter 16:38 <@RyanHouse> check with the guy who got the cream of sum yun gi 16:41 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #se2600 16:46 -!- NotLarry [n=NotLarry@cable4-44.murray-ky.net] has joined #se2600 16:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 16:50 <@polerin> NL :) 16:50 -!- TelcoBob [n=TelcoBob@user-0c2h0qr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #se2600 16:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> here comes trouble 16:50 < nated0g_wrk> can someone update OP status on my 2 usernames 16:51 < Cinotac> nated0g: you link one username to the other 16:51 <@Dagmar> Link one to the other, man. 16:51 < nated0g_wrk> huh how 16:51 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has quit ["leaving"] 16:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> 16:51 < nated0g_wrk> one is my connection at home, then this one is at work 16:51 <@Dagmar> /quote ns help group 16:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> 16:55 <@polerin> heh 16:57 <@NotLarry> polerin: yea? 16:57 <@polerin> hi' 16:57 < nated0g_wrk> ill do it tonight at home 16:58 <@RyanHouse> "/msg nickserv link nated0g password" 16:58 <@RyanHouse> assuming you registered nated0g 16:58 < nated0g_wrk> invalid command 16:58 <@RyanHouse> type this without the quotes 16:58 <@NotLarry> I tried /msg nickserv link nated0g and it worked great for me 16:58 <@RyanHouse> "/msg NickServ help" 16:59 <@RyanHouse> I had 6 variations linked on my Work IRC server so I am pretty sure this will work fine 16:59 <@RyanHouse> once you got a chat going with NickServ let me know 17:00 < nated0g_wrk> fiddlesticks 17:00 < nated0g_wrk> ill wait 17:00 < nated0g_wrk> its home time 17:01 -!- RyanHouse is now known as RJH 17:01 -!- RJH is now known as RyanHouse 17:13 -!- Cinotac is now known as Catonic_lp 17:13 <@sdodson> M0j0-j0j0: sorry to have gotten your hopes up about any sort of organization here in RDU. 17:21 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has joined #se2600 17:22 <@Dagmar> If your IRC client supports the /quote command (or /rawirc command) you should use that instead of msg'ing NickServ. 17:23 <@Dagmar> Typing "/quote [...] or /rawirc ns identify blah" 17:23 <@coil> xchat does it built in with out having to use quote 17:23 <@Dagmar> Typing "/quote [...]" or "/rawirc ns identify blah" makes your client send "NS IDENTIFY blah" directly to the server. 17:23 <@Dagmar> ONLY the server will see it. 17:24 <@Dagmar> ...so if you're somehow on another network due to user error or DNS abduction, and someone's actually managed to make off with the NickServ nickname, you don't accidentally send the message out to some other *user* 17:24 <@Dagmar> coil: yeah, zED has his shit together. 17:25 <@coil> /ns identify mymom 17:25 <@coil> aww shit that was my good pass 17:26 <@Dagmar> whoa. Go Gabriel! 17:26 <@Dagmar> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180305733428 17:27 <@polerin> "andd I'm really hoping it will go to a god home. " 17:27 <@polerin> heh 17:27 <@polerin> nice tyop 17:27 <@Dagmar> There's a bigger picture at http://www.penny-arcade.com/uploads/2008/11/10/jim_framed.jpg 17:28 <@Dagmar> It's apparently a good sign that these virtual artistry tools are close enough to actual tools that a good artist can transition so easily from one to the other. 17:28 <@Dagmar> Gabriel *just* picked up oil paints about three months ago. 17:29 <@polerin> mmph. Well, there are other things to go with oil paints 17:29 <@polerin> it depends on what his technique is for PA 17:29 <@polerin> which I think is pretty much cell-shading 17:29 <@Dagmar> Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop 17:29 <@polerin> thats a toolset, not a technique :) 17:30 <@Dagmar> There ain't much "technique" you can apply to Illustrator. 17:30 <@polerin> oh there's an insane ammount 17:30 <@Dagmar> You're either drawing lines and polys or you're not 17:30 <@Dagmar> By comparison to oil paints? 17:30 <@polerin> yes. Totaly different techniques, but there is technique to it 17:31 <@polerin> which is why you get some people who can do what he does 17:32 <@polerin> and others (me) who just fail. 17:32 <@polerin> it says more about his skill as an artist if you ask me :) 17:34 <@Dagmar> That was his second attempt, and his first one didn't fall very short of it. 17:34 <@Dagmar> Go down to Bongo and look at the stuff in the gallery there. 17:34 <@Dagmar> Sometimes it's good, but most of the time, like now, it's just crap. 17:35 <@Dagmar> ...and rather frequently you can tell the artist spent a great amount of time just trying to figure out how to use the brush. 17:38 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has quit ["leaving"] 17:42 <@polerin> you might be supprised. A good number of those artists are very skilled with the brush, but choose that effect on purpose. 17:42 <@polerin> not my kind of thing, but.. yeah. 17:42 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@c-75-66-111-159.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mtown_nerd] by ChanServ 17:43 <@Dagmar> No, they just look like shit. 17:49 -!- zadeaux [n=zadeaux@adsl-068-209-025-096.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 17:49 < zadeaux> wow. so i was expecting maybe 6 or 7 people here 17:49 <@brimstone> SURPRISE! 17:50 < zadeaux> indeed! 17:50 <@coil> wat? 17:50 < zadeaux> I've digressed from my frequent trips across Efnet to come hang out 17:55 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:57 <@Dagmar> Wheee 17:57 <@Dagmar> Three sentences later... a fecal storm appears on the horizon. 18:01 <@brimstone> so, the most commen class is "IN" are there any otheres? 18:03 < Catonic_lp> lmfao 18:03 < Catonic_lp> fecal storm 18:03 <@brimstone> lyffo! 18:03 -!- RyanHouse is now known as RH_OUT 18:03 < Catonic_lp> IN A, IN MX, IN TXT... 18:03 -!- Irongeek [n=user@unaffiliated/irongeek] has joined #se2600 18:03 < Catonic_lp> SOA 18:03 <@brimstone> Catonic_lp: yes, but what's other then IN? 18:03 -!- RH_OUT [n=RHouse@72.54.131.86] has left #se2600 [] 18:06 -!- Irongeek [n=user@unaffiliated/irongeek] has left #se2600 [] 18:07 < Catonic_lp> CS, CH, HS 18:07 < Catonic_lp> CSNET, CHAOS, HESIOD 18:07 <@brimstone> what are those? where are they used? 18:08 < Catonic_lp> you'll never see them. 18:08 < Catonic_lp> CSNET and CHAOS are historical at this point, HESIOD is confined to MIT 18:09 < Catonic_lp> basically, everthing you never wanted to put into DNS uses the "IN" class 18:10 <@brimstone> you don't know me! i could have family at MIT 18:13 <@Corydon76-lap> Catonic: does IPv6 use a different symbol? 18:18 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has joined #se2600 18:18 <@Dagmar> Actually, CHAOS records are still being used 18:20 <@brimstone> where? by whom? 18:24 <@Corydon76-lap> brimstone: they're apparently used for Bind's builtin server information zones, e.g. version.bind. 18:25 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 18:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 18:30 <@Corydon76-lap> brimstone: dig @ns.digium.com version.bind chaos txt 18:30 < Catonic_lp> Corydon76-dig: IPv6 uses AAAA instead of "A" 18:31 <@brimstone> Corydon76-lap: woah 18:31 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-177-120.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 18:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 18:31 <@Corydon76-lap> brimstone: might want to upgrade that box 18:36 -!- mubix [n=mubix@c-76-104-34-83.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:39 <@rhia> evening Corydon76-lap 18:40 <@rhia> evening to anyone else i missed - sorry, last active nick caught attention 18:44 -!- C-P [n=HappyDan@ip65-46-14-94.z14-46-65.customer.algx.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 18:44 <@sdodson> rhia: WHY DO YOU HATE ME?! 18:44 -!- emwav [n=emwav@cpe-066-057-126-036.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 18:45 * sdodson haxorizes brimstone 18:45 <@sdodson> omg invasion of the nc2600 crew 18:46 <+eryc> thats what now, 3? 18:46 < TelcoBob> hahah hax 18:48 <@sdodson> Nashville ain't got shit on RDU! 18:48 <+cerkit> I'm part of the -2600 crew. 18:48 <@rattle> cerkit: No your not. 18:48 <@rattle> Your part of the 2599 crew! 18:48 <+cerkit> That too 18:48 <+cerkit> :) 18:49 <@aestetix> what's -2600 18:49 <+cerkit> I'm part of the my terminal is fucked up in this screen session crew, right now 18:49 <+cerkit> ah, good, there we go 18:49 <+cerkit> no more crazy fucking ansi 18:49 <+cerkit> haha 18:50 <+cerkit> BitchX-1.1-final+ by panasync - Linux 2.6.17-10-server 18:50 <+cerkit> ^^^ old skool 18:50 <+cerkit> :P 18:50 <@rhia> aestetix: one more than 2599 and one less than 2601 18:51 <@rhia> or, one less than -2599 and one more than -2601 18:51 <+cerkit> rattle: It would be interesting to re-assemble the original 2599 crew, bahah 18:51 <@rhia> damn, reverse the last two - sigh 18:51 <+cerkit> Like a high school reunion 18:51 <@aestetix> So in continuation of my gripes about flying 18:51 <@rattle> Only less maturity present. 18:51 < TelcoBob> cerkit: my high school doesnt have reunions becasue all the kids in my class died drunk driving 18:51 <@aestetix> I currently have the worst back muscle knot ever, thanks to American Airlines. 18:51 < TelcoBob> :-p 18:52 <+cerkit> You're alive though? 18:52 < TelcoBob> cerkit: shhhh 18:52 <+cerkit> They should have a huge fucking cake for just you... 18:52 <+cerkit> at least 18:52 <+cerkit> I mean, thats nuts. 18:52 <+cerkit> The sole survivor? 18:52 <+cerkit> sheesh 18:52 < TelcoBob> cerkit: yea we had a kid die every weekend haha it was brutal 18:52 <+cerkit> a yeahbook full of tombstones 18:53 < TelcoBob> good thing i didnt know anyone, then i might have been sad 18:53 <+cerkit> all euglogies 18:53 <+cerkit> eulogies 18:53 <+cerkit> instead of signings 18:53 < TelcoBob> hahah 18:53 <+eryc> that would be a long moment of silence 18:53 < Catonic_lp> shit, I think we had five girls who weren't pregnant my senior year. 18:53 <+eryc> half a day of silence 18:53 <+cerkit> "Jim, have a great death, your friend from math, Sam" 18:54 <@rhia> my highschool doesn't have reunions either, then again, if I ever see Nancy again - that'll be a full class reunion 18:54 < Catonic_lp> Apparently that was how the school wound up with a child-care class... students needed daycare. 18:54 <+cerkit> I'm sure my schools do, no one would know who I was though. 18:54 <+cerkit> I almost never went. 18:54 <+cerkit> I was always off on some bit of hackary 18:54 <@polerin> heh 18:54 <@sdodson> people die? 18:54 <+cerkit> Sometimes with rattle. 18:54 <@polerin> I'm actually going back to my high school reunion next year 18:54 <+cerkit> heh 18:54 < TelcoBob> cerkit: i was always high in the van 18:55 < TelcoBob> sdodson: all those kids form wakefield and WFR that carcrashed 18:55 < emwav> you're always high ... period 18:55 < emwav> hahaa 18:55 < TelcoBob> hahaha 18:55 <+eryc> hahahha 18:55 <@rattle> My hs has yet to do a reunion. Somehow, this doesn't bother me at all. 18:55 < TelcoBob> no thanks to you emwav :-p 18:55 < emwav> haha, me. never 18:55 < zadeaux> I'm heading back for mine, I'll be the 1 white dude there 18:55 < TelcoBob> rattle: they do, they just dont tell you about it 18:56 <+cerkit> rattle: would you even go? 18:56 <@sdodson> TelcoBob: I don't know what happens around here, I don't watch the tv or listen to the news on the radio. 18:56 <+cerkit> I never even considered the idea. 18:56 < TelcoBob> sdodson: really? i pegged you as an NPR nazi 18:56 <@sdodson> TelcoBob: totally, but I don't apparently listen to anything local. 18:57 <@rattle> I probably would. 18:57 <@sdodson> I found out that Reader's Corner donates $100k to NPR via their $0.25 / $0.10 book section outside their store. 18:57 <+cerkit> Reunions really don't hope to erve any meaningful purpose so far as I can tell -- who cared what happened to a handful of people you never talked to again? 18:57 < TelcoBob> sdodson: i thought they swtched to the local news from the UNC station every once and a while 18:57 < TelcoBob> sdodson: holy shit 18:57 <+cerkit> It would be like sitting down with all the people you served at your first retail job. 18:58 -!- mubix [n=mubix@c-76-104-34-83.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:59 < TelcoBob> hahaha 18:59 <@sdodson> TelcoBob: It only takes me like 15 minutes to drive to work. 18:59 < TelcoBob> cerkit: reunions are only cool to see how fat the chix that wouldnt date you got 18:59 < TelcoBob> and tell everyone how leet you are now 18:59 <@sdodson> It's not like I listen to NPR at home, I'm not that lame. 18:59 < TelcoBob> sdodson: you shoudl walk then, go green 18:59 <+cerkit> TelcoBob: Who would even care? 18:59 < TelcoBob> sdodson: you mean your not hyperdeficate 19:00 < TelcoBob> cerkit: teh poor people 19:00 <@sdodson> TelcoBob: Interesting mispelling there :) 19:00 < TelcoBob> you have to learn to rub it in their face 19:00 < TelcoBob> sdodson: hahah sorry i had to' 19:00 < TelcoBob> i ;ove the kid though 19:00 <@sdodson> I like him 19:00 <@sdodson> He thinks things through a lot more than a few of the local loud mouths. 19:01 < cwire> big bang theory time! 19:01 <+cerkit> I have no need to rub anything in fat girls faces when apparently genetics has done a fantasic job of it for me. 19:01 < emwav> yes it is!!! i was just pm'n telcobob about that 19:01 < emwav> i love that show 19:01 <+cerkit> I just sit back and thank science. 19:01 <@sdodson> cerkit: your nuts! 19:01 <+cerkit> you're <- 19:01 <+cerkit> :) 19:01 <@sdodson> cerkit: no, your nuts, that's what you rub in their face. 19:01 <+cerkit> oh 19:02 < TelcoBob> god that girl is sooo hot 19:02 <+cerkit> I had so hoped we would need to discuss my testicles too 19:02 < emwav> bob-the girl from big bang theory 19:02 < TelcoBob> emwav: damn straight 19:03 < cwire> haha 19:03 < emwav> yes she is 19:03 < cwire> she used to be on 8 simple rules for dating my teenage daughter 19:03 < emwav> i don't think i've ever seen that show 19:03 <+cerkit> I know I haven't. 19:04 <@sdodson> that sounds like a porn 19:04 <+cerkit> its not, but the writing is about that grade, I'm sure 19:04 < TelcoBob> sdodson: you like porn too? we have so much in common ^_^ 19:04 < emwav> nope, that would be 8 simple positions 19:04 <+cerkit> (I mean with such a creative title) 19:04 < TelcoBob> cerkit: dont diss the show, that uy died 19:04 < TelcoBob> its not good to speak ill of the dead 19:05 <@sdodson> TelcoBob: I don't do tiedye though. 19:05 <+cerkit> I'm NOT good 19:05 < TelcoBob> emwav: you think shawn would be more likely to hire me if i add my work with the church of the subgenious on my resume? 19:05 <+cerkit> You must have mixed up. 19:05 <+cerkit> have me* 19:05 < TelcoBob> i really wwant to get hired somewhere with that on my resume 19:06 < emwav> bob: not sure, he probably wouldn't look at resume. he hires on personal meeintgs 19:06 < TelcoBob> ah i see :) 19:07 <+cerkit> Ya know whats fun, watching other people give even other people, purposely bad stock advice, like you would mess with someone who asked for directions. 19:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> okay guys 19:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm out for today 19:07 < cwire> man, i love the nerd level of this show 19:07 < TelcoBob> by M0j0-j0j0 ! 19:07 <@M0j0-j0j0> peac love and chicken grease 19:07 <+cerkit> Being able to calculate the poor asshole's losses just makes me giddy 19:07 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit ["my united states of whatever"] 19:08 <+cerkit> I could never do that to someone. 19:08 <+cerkit> But its perfectly entertaining to watch it. 19:09 < emwav> Does anyone really speak klingon (i'm watching big bang theory) 19:09 < cwire> omg she likes lolcats 19:09 < TelcoBob> ga! 19:09 < TelcoBob> lolcats 19:09 < TelcoBob> theyre cute..and they cant spell...because thetre cats 19:09 < cwire> :-D 19:10 < cwire> i'm quite surprised they didn't permanently scare her away on the first episode 19:10 <@rhia> emwav: actually, some people believe they do speak Klingon - and have expanded the language quite a bit 19:10 < TelcoBob> rhia: ive seen shakespeare in klingon 19:10 <@rhia> emwav: you can usually see them in full battle gear at most sf cons 19:10 <+eryc> or otherwise at home in their parents basement 19:10 <+cerkit> rhia: so you dress up at Phreaknic? 19:10 <+cerkit> wow. 19:10 < emwav> hahaa, cool. just wondering. 19:11 <@rhia> cerkit: hehe, nah - just club clothes - and that's been years ago 19:11 <+eryc> its all furry all the time now 19:11 <@rhia> but have run into the klingon honor guard at dragoncon a few times 19:11 <+cerkit> rhia: Thats too bad, I bet you look pretty good in battle gear. 19:13 <+cerkit> Everyone should own some battle gear -- what if you have to do battle? 19:13 <@sdodson> What sort of battle? 19:13 <+cerkit> Look at sdodson for instance, his battle gear is mIRc. 19:14 < TelcoBob> sdodson: battletoads 19:14 <@sdodson> cerkit: mIRC FOR LIFE! 19:14 <+cerkit> He's an IRCWarrior 19:14 <+cerkit> WARrior 19:14 <@sdodson> muthafuck'n ninjaz 19:14 * TelcoBob is a weekend warrior 19:15 < emwav> hahaa, i'm a winnebago warrior (dead kennedy's) 19:15 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@c-75-66-111-159.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 19:15 <@jb7od> lol there's a flashback.. 19:15 <@jb7od> all i'm remembering is "don't forget the beer" 19:15 <@jb7od> lol 19:16 <+eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIuN3o0pRo4 19:16 <@jb7od> honey quick, the polaraoid 19:16 <@jb7od> brave as old john wayne 19:16 <@jb7od> alas, i digress.. 19:18 < cwire> lol, man i wish i knew someone at norad 19:18 < TelcoBob> hahahah ettercap ftw 19:19 <@jb7od> lol! i bet that's a darkass net in there! 19:19 <@jb7od> you'd tell all ur homies "RUN AWAY!!" 19:19 <@jb7od> lol 19:20 <+cerkit> If I opened up my home network through the vpn, the media stored alone would almost substantiate it as a darknet. 19:20 <+cerkit> The sheer magnittude of shit, I have stored... 19:20 <+cerkit> it astounds even me. 19:21 <@Dagmar> I know the feeling. 19:21 <+cerkit> I come before you as a huge, standing middle finger 19:21 <+cerkit> to the RIAA 19:21 <+cerkit> haha 19:21 < cwire> wow, that's how you do battle with a nerd 19:21 <+cerkit> Dagmar: Yes sir 19:21 <@Dagmar> I'm basiclaly in "user mode" when it comes to MythTV and waiting for the 0.22 release 19:22 <+cerkit> I'm at 37 TB. 19:22 <@Dagmar> ...because for no other reason than "I recorded it and I'm trying to hone this shit" I have 2.5 terabytes of fucking TV episodes I'll probably never watch again. 19:22 <+cerkit> And I will be adding another 20 on Friday. 19:22 <@Dagmar> cerkit: Shit man I'll have to pillage your stash for certain rare techno sometime then 19:22 <+eryc> im up to 4pb 19:23 <@Dagmar> I've got about a third of my damn CDs encoded, and the main holdup is sad 19:23 <@Dagmar> I can't get the shit stored "neatly" enough. 19:23 <@sdodson> Rare techno can be recreated by a for loop and rand 19:23 <@Dagmar> ...because just about everything's ability to tag files correctly is shit 19:23 <@sdodson> just use itunes 19:23 <+eryc> ya man, genius playlists! 19:24 < zadeaux> maybe we should chip in.. got a customer that wants to offload a hitachi usp 1100 for $15k, comes with 35tb raw 19:24 < zadeaux> it scales to some rediculous number 19:25 < zadeaux> in theory 19:25 <@Dagmar> eryc: Well, basically winamp can't properly tag album art into an mp3 for just ONE problem 19:25 <@Dagmar> Manually typing this shit in is not a tenable solution 19:25 <@Dagmar> Thank god I at least have the SBLIve card to do hardware accell of the encoding, so I can rip the damn things in ~4 minutes 19:26 <@Dagmar> I don't even want to think about trying to rip the vinyls 19:26 <@rattle> Oh my, is Axel Rose finally going to release Chinese Democracy? 19:26 <@rattle> What the fuck.. 19:26 <@rattle> Is the world coming to an end? 19:27 <@Dagmar> hehe 19:27 <+eryc> there is an album art tag in mp3? 19:27 <@Dagmar> Actually there is, and a number of things can and do see it 19:27 <@Dagmar> My little cheapo Insignia mp3 player, Winamp (in theory), Apple's stuff (all of it) 19:27 <+eryc> its own tag or does it reuse another? 19:27 <@rattle> A black guy is about to become the President. Chinese Democracy is coming out.. 19:27 <@Dagmar> eryc: It literalyl allows for you to embed a jpg into the mp3. 19:27 <@rattle> What's the next sign? 19:28 <+eryc> nice 19:28 <@Dagmar> rattle: if the RIAA stops suing everyone 19:28 <@rattle> Shit. 19:28 <@rattle> How could we make that happen? Hrm. 19:28 <@rattle> Still got no answer for that one. 19:28 <@Dagmar> If they come out with a press release that says "Fuck it. If you guys voluntarily pay us 10 cents for each mp3 you have, we'll call it even and you licenced" 19:30 <@Dagmar> Because frankly, they *could* sell it for that if they weren't so attached to their pipeline of printers and cd manufacturers and let's not forget, KICKBACKS 19:30 <@sdodson> Wait, you need hardware accelerated audio encoding? 19:30 <@sdodson> Are you doing this on the trusty old 486? 19:30 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:33 * eryc presses the turbo button 19:34 -!- emwav [n=emwav@cpe-066-057-126-036.nc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:34 <@sdodson> Dagmar: what's new and exciting in 0.22? 19:41 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:50 <@sdodson> Diabeetus art : http://goodnightraleigh.com/uploaded_images/3018145190_8a065c3e11_b.jpg 19:51 -!- sdodson [n=sdodson@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/sdodson] has left #se2600 [] 20:03 <@Drag0n> http://www.crazydogtshirts.com/servlet/the-1585/snakes-on-a-plane/Detail 20:03 <@scort> lul 20:08 <@rhia> hmmm...... ware's latest post to the list ...um, yes, actually, he did indeed say exactly that - on the mailing list " Re: [se2600] Clarification " on May 02 this year - thought that particular string of obscenities looked familiar 20:09 <@scort> ? 20:10 <@polerin> I didn't take that from irc logs 20:10 <@scort> drama ftl 20:10 <@polerin> hehe 20:11 <@polerin> I agree but.. 20:11 <@polerin> anyway, heroes :) 20:14 <@rhia> eh, Heroes isn't gripping my attention this year ..... "ok, now the character says""wait, we killed them off""Oh? damn... ok, so, this character comes back to life and says..." 20:15 <@rhia> and damnit, Hiro is a true hero and after all he's been through he's STILL that naive? sigh 20:19 <@oddball> hey, he's survived this long being naive 20:19 <@brimstone> NO SPOILERS! 20:20 <@rhia> heh, i know ... just the writing doesn't seem as tight this year - or something.... like it's gotten more hollywood and less graphic novel based 20:20 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 20:22 <@rhia> it's like what they do with everything else, it seems 20:23 <@rhia> "hey, we've got a sleeper MEGAhit here! whoohoo! let's make it even BETTER by getting rid of everything that our analysts say should work, but does and replace it with all the same old crap that everyone hates, but Should make us more money!" 20:23 <@rhia> er, shouldn't work 20:24 <@NotLarry> a lot like cocks on hookers 20:24 <@NotLarry> damn, did I type that out loud? 20:24 <@rhia> either that or they get a great series and kill it off because it doesn't fit their formula 20:25 <@rhia> hey NotLarry 20:25 <@NotLarry> hey, nice to see you out and about 20:26 * rhia turns off the webcam 20:26 <@rhia> hehe 20:28 <@NotLarry> now what am I supposed to do with my free hand^h^h^h^htime at work? 20:29 <@rhia> straighten out the fingers? 20:29 <@rhia> evening, dc0de 20:29 <@rhia> how's the new job? 20:30 * polerin pokes dc0de 20:30 <@polerin> dangit rhia 20:30 <@polerin> say hi while I read teh scrollback then 20:30 <@rhia> hehe 20:32 <@Dementia> rhia: I just feel like everybody is thinking the characters should have progressed a lot further than they have... but honestly, in their world, not much time has passed. 20:32 <@Dementia> I'm enjoying it, myself. 20:34 <@rhia> Dementia: still one of the better shows on tv, definitely ... 20:34 <@rhia> just not holding my attention like the 1st two seasons did 20:35 <@Dementia> It's the only one I watch, besides Chuck. Chuck is just a guilty pleasure. 20:35 <@rhia> LUV Chuck 20:35 <@oddball> Chuck: a geek hero where they actually got it right 20:35 <@oddball> unlike... oh... Jake 2.0 20:35 <@Shadow404> www.craigslist.com 20:36 <@NotLarry> my kids make me watch house and criminal minds, while calling each other Lyle and Erik... 20:36 <@Shadow404> jobs ftw 20:36 <@rhia> Dementia: see Lissa's comment earlier about someone naming their twins Skylar and Peter? now That's a fan 20:36 <@oddball> Shadow404: anything in particular? 20:37 <@Dementia> rhia: hehe 20:37 <@rhia> er, Sylar and Peter .... friend has a daughter named Skylar ... finger memory 20:38 <@oddball> motherfucker.... 2+ GB takes a long time to transfer via sftp between a T1 connection and a cable modem. 20:38 <@brimstone> should only take around 40 minutes 20:38 <@rhia> oddball: miss 9600 baud rates? 20:38 <@brimstone> saying you get most of the T1 20:39 * rhia ducks 20:39 <@oddball> not really... no 20:40 <@oddball> brimstone: I should at this time of night. Not many people are on at this time of night at work. 20:40 <@oddball> Of course, this is a Paetec connection, so no telling what the actual bandwidth we're getting is. :/ 20:40 <@brimstone> what bandwidth are you getting from it? 20:41 <@oddball> no clue 20:42 <@oddball> putty's sftp client doesn't really give much in the way of information. 20:42 <@brimstone> i REALLY like winscp 20:43 <@scort> y dsonbrt u mnasrry urt 20:43 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 20:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 20:43 <@polerin> I'm actually enjoying "My own worst enemy" even though it's horrible 20:45 <@oddball> I may try that for the bounce back to the hotel room tonight. If that doesn't work, I'll just make the fucking 2-3 hour round trip back to the office tomorrow. 20:53 <@oddball> Oh, on a geeky note: I'm enjoying the Acer Aspire One that my company bought for me. 20:56 <@polerin> yeah I want a laptop 20:57 <@oddball> well, this or the eee PC are just your size :p 20:58 <@oddball> hell, they're even powerful enough for Decent, so you got your gaming covered! 20:59 <@polerin> heh 20:59 <@polerin> smartass 21:00 <@oddball> that'sa me! 21:00 -!- someninjalearnin is now known as someninjamaster 21:00 <@polerin> I wanna play counterstrike actually 21:00 <@polerin> that sounds like fun 21:00 <@Dementia> oddball: were you just watching heroes? 21:00 <@brimstone> NO SPOILERS! 21:00 <@Dementia> I won't 21:00 <@oddball> yes 21:01 <@polerin> yeah really 21:01 <@polerin> wtf. 21:01 <@polerin> that's all I'm going to say 21:01 <@Dementia> yeah... OMGWTFBBQ 21:01 <@oddball> And, per usual, I'm guessing Nai is going to shout "no! wtf!" in a couple minutes. 21:01 * polerin bites Dementia. HI :D 21:02 <@oddball> (she's at Critch's with the DVR) 21:02 <@Dementia> hi bitey 21:02 <@Dementia> oddball: ah gotcha. yeah probably she is 21:03 <@Dementia> cause... omg 21:03 <@oddball> I'm stuck in a hotel room in Columbia. 21:03 <@Dementia> Columbia? 21:03 <@Dementia> TN? 21:03 <@oddball> yep 21:03 <@Drag0n> sc? 21:04 <@Dementia> sorry to hear it 21:05 <@oddball> setting up a new office in Columbia, Lawrenceburg, and Polaski. AKA almost BFE, BFE, just past BFE. 21:05 <@polerin> hehe 21:05 * polerin goes to shoot people for a bit 21:05 <@Dementia> heh 21:05 <@rhia> lol 21:05 <@Dementia> how many more ep's do we have in this season? 21:17 <@oddball> no clue 21:18 <@polerin> yeah 21:18 <@Dementia> ok, well I'm signing off to go get some things done. have fun, y'all 21:18 <@polerin> Dementia: lissa agrees 21:18 <@polerin> bai dem 21:20 <@rhia> g'nite, Dementia 21:21 -!- droops [n=erickson@74.193.240.17] has joined #se2600 21:21 <@NotLarry> great, I felt fine, my boss makes me go see someone in the medical profession, now I have a fever. And I whine too much. 21:22 * rhia passes NotLarry some cheese 21:23 <@NotLarry> tyvm 21:23 < AstralSin> NotLarry: i have a brewing question... do corny kegs require CO2 tanks or can you use a hand pump? 21:24 <@rhia> was 56, poured rain just a while ago, still raining slightly, now 62 .... God left the hot water tap on? 21:24 < zadeaux> i use a cos tank 21:24 < zadeaux> co2 21:24 < AstralSin> zadeaux: where do you get it refilled? 21:25 < zadeaux> how are you carbonating 21:25 <@NotLarry> AstralSin: Ok, I don't make that stuff, my kids do. All I do is bottle it and give it to there mother:) 21:25 < zadeaux> air & gas store 21:25 < zadeaux> i fill a 40lb for 22bucks 21:25 < AstralSin> i'm looking at getting a corny keg, i'm about to start brewing more regularly, now that i've found a good source for ingredients 21:25 <@rhia> NotLarry: raising them right ;) 21:26 <@NotLarry> rhia: I moved away, I'm not raising them anymore 21:26 < zadeaux> good deal.. i love home brew.. enjoying some right now 21:27 < AstralSin> i've got some porter brewing right now, but it'll probably suck 21:27 <@NotLarry> rhia: Letting their mother get a taste, which is why I keep her full of Apfelwein 21:27 < AstralSin> it was just one of those brewer's best kits 21:27 < AstralSin> i can't find any cider that will ferment :( 21:28 < zadeaux> sanitation.. sanitation.. 21:28 < AstralSin> some commercial ciders won't ferment, got some additive in it that prevents it 21:28 <@NotLarry> damn, not gonna get any better, guess it is time to go to work. 21:42 -!- zadeaux [n=zadeaux@adsl-068-209-025-096.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [] 21:42 -!- TelcoBob [n=TelcoBob@user-0c2h0qr.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [] 21:46 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@168.28.136.17] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 21:51 -!- droops [n=erickson@74.193.240.17] has quit [] 22:01 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-177-120.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:03 <+Peaches84> hello guys whats up 22:06 <@Catonic> tf 22:06 <@Catonic> wtf 22:07 <+Peaches84> what u mean wtf 22:07 <@Catonic> in the credits of hellboy ii: "NYPD is a registered trademark of City of New York" 22:10 -!- droops [n=erickson@74.193.240.17] has joined #se2600 22:12 <@Drag0n> World Trade Federation? 22:12 <@brimstone> Wyld Tree Frogs 22:13 <@Drag0n> Wyrd Topless Floggers? 22:14 <@Catonic> Wyld Toplyss pFstall1ons 22:14 <@rhia> brimstone: rhia is old, the Wyld made me think of Wyld Stallyns 22:14 <@brimstone> WYLD STALLYNS!!! 22:14 <@rhia> Dude! 22:14 <@Drag0n> Be excelent to each other 22:14 <@rhia> EXCELLENT! 22:15 <@Drag0n> Party on 22:15 <@brimstone> Party on Drag0n 22:15 * Corydon76-dig parties all over brimstone 22:15 * Drag0n covers his eyes 22:15 <@scort> Drag0n, rhia have you heard of a company called mouser electronics 22:16 <@Drag0n> nope 22:16 <@poiupoiu> Party on dudes 22:16 <+eryc> oya! 22:16 <@rhia> mouser electronics 22:16 <@rhia> rings a bell 22:16 <+eryc> big catalog 22:16 <@poiupoiu> isn't that kind of like digi-kay? 22:17 <@poiupoiu> *digi-key? 22:17 <@scort> from forth worth tx 22:17 <@Catonic> http://andrewwk.com/content/PartyPartyParty.mp3 22:17 <@rhia> scort: looking to work for them? 22:17 <@scort> no, just ordered some caps from them 22:18 <@rhia> scort: sorry, never ordered from them 22:18 <@Drag0n> good luck on fixing that motherboard, you dont know what level the component is soldered at, most motherboards are at least 4 layers 22:19 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvOMdj5e6YY 22:19 <+eryc> ur bean deap is 4 layers 22:20 <@Drag0n> no, thats 4 cheeses 22:20 <@rhia> scort: they seem to have a decent rep in the area - otherwise, well, you know local press - nothing bad business wise Ever happens in TX 22:20 <@scort> Drag0n, 6 i think 22:20 <@scort> idk if that applies to my mobo 22:20 <@Catonic> Party party party... 22:20 <@scort> rhia i ordered today and its gonna be here tomorrow free shipping 22:21 <@scort> 39 cents per cap 22:21 <@rhia> Catonic: looking for PARTY to finish that? 22:21 <@Drag0n> ouch, thats some fine soldering, normaly, motherbords are wave soldered, focused heat will seperate the layers 22:22 <@Drag0n> i have toasted a motherboard just trying to solder a jumper 22:22 <@polerin> scort: you're going to need to make sure you have a low heat soldering iron 22:23 <@polerin> you don't have a prayer without that 22:23 <@polerin> it's going to be hard even with it 22:23 <@scort> how low heat 22:23 <+eryc> 28 degrees 22:23 * scort slaps eryc around a bit with a large trout. 22:23 <@scort> so the cheap radio shack one wont do it 22:23 <@scort> it's medium heat? 22:23 <@Catonic> scort: Catonic, same 22:24 <+eryc> yes we can! 22:24 <@Drag0n> probably not, its a sensitive area 22:25 <@scort> i need to get a desoldering twine 22:25 <@scort> or whatever the thing is 22:25 <@poiupoiu> solder wick? 22:26 <@scort> ya 22:26 <+eryc> job? 22:26 <@scort> no i got one of those 22:26 <@Catonic> rip w&w electronics 22:28 <@scort> or would a solder sucker be better? 22:29 <@Catonic> use both 22:31 <@brimstone> W&W is dead. Long Live W&W 22:31 <@poiupoiu> his name... was robert paulson 22:32 -!- droops_ [n=erickson@74.193.240.17] has joined #se2600 22:32 <+eryc> wtfstfukthxdiaf 22:35 <@Catonic> omgroflcopter 22:35 <@poiupoiu> lollerskatesbbq! 22:35 * scort works on his rs232 to ttl adaptor 22:36 -!- droops__ [n=erickson@74.193.240.17] has joined #se2600 22:37 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=mj0j0@cpe-071-070-193-020.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 22:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 22:48 -!- droops [n=erickson@74.193.240.17] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:48 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:48 -!- droops_ [n=erickson@74.193.240.17] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:59 <@Catonic> lmfao 23:04 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:12 -!- Psyiode [n=bldahodu@75-172-253-72.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [] 23:19 -!- desertc [n=mmm@ubuntu/member/desertc] has joined #se2600 23:21 < desertc> Hey 23:22 < desertc> What kind of crazy initiation rite do I have to perform to get voice here? 23:24 < desertc> Rwar.... any web pages with the conference images all collected? 23:25 <@brimstone> desertc: inquire with Corydon76-dig 23:26 <@brimstone> he'll let you know who^Hat you have to do 23:26 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:26 < desertc> hmmm - that explains some things 23:26 <@brimstone> damn lag 23:26 < desertc> lag is your friend -- anyway, thanks brimstone 23:27 < desertc> http://ormgas.rainwave.cc/ promote my buddies at the video game remix group 23:28 < desertc> where's not larry - want to tell him about my hard apple cider experiences ;) 23:30 <@brimstone> he comes and goes 23:30 < desertc> was telling a group of computer users how awesome phreaknic was 23:30 < desertc> people can hardly believe the stories 23:30 < desertc> whole level of awesomeness beyond believability 23:31 < desertc> okay, I am going to go off and shoot my home made AK47 while I drink my home made cider 23:31 -!- desertc [n=mmm@ubuntu/member/desertc] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 23:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> woot 23:56 <@dasunt> Idiot tech people make me sad. --- Log closed Tue Nov 11 00:00:40 2008