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02:17 <@strages> NotLarry: you around?
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05:08 < Irongeek> Chair toss and other stuff from Phreaknic:
05:08 < Irongeek> http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/phreaknic-12-hacker-con
05:08 < Irongeek> Got about an hour 20 min of stuff.
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07:42 <@Shadow404> meow
07:45 <@GodFix[HC]> le meow
07:47  * Shadow404 has a sake hangover
07:47 <@Shadow404> that and my stomach is still trying to decipher all the sushi i ate last night
07:47 <@GodFix[HC]> wow. how much sake do you have to drink to get drunk?
07:48 <@Shadow404> well, i had some japaneese clients fly in to see about colocating in atlanta
07:48 <@Shadow404> and we took them out for dinner
07:48 <@brimstone> did you sing karaoke?
07:48 <@Shadow404> so they bought a nice bottle of sake on their own dime to share and well, i had to oblige
07:48 <@Shadow404> no, no karaoke at this bar fortunately
07:49 <@Shadow404> as well, the nice bottle of sake is way more potent than the gekiman i usually buy
07:49 <@GodFix[HC]> that had to be some really good sake
07:50 <@GodFix[HC]> the stuff I get here, I'll drink a whole bottle to myself
07:52 <@Shadow404> well, woot, they bought colocation this morning, the sales team reports
07:53 <@Shadow404> looks like i got busy work for the next month to come
07:55 <@aestetix> hey
07:55 <@aestetix> anyone good with forensics?
07:56 <@GodFix[HC]> SkyDog and seblind are
07:56 <@GodFix[HC]> seeblind
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07:59 <@aestetix> if anyone is interested in the dc3 forensics contest
07:59 <@aestetix> I have the dvd for it
08:00 <@aestetix> but my team fell apart and I forgot about it
08:00 <@Shadow404> where is the contest being held?
08:00 <@Shadow404> at a confrence?
08:01 <@aestetix> no
08:01 <@Shadow404> where?
08:01 <@aestetix> http://www.dc3.mil/challenge/
08:01 <@aestetix> you solve the puzzles in the DVD and submit
08:02 < cwire> new xkcds are full of awesome
08:02 <@Shadow404> wow, you only have a few days left
08:02 <@Shadow404> no thx
08:02 <@aestetix> I solved like 10 of them already
08:02 < cwire> how many are there?
08:02 <@aestetix> 50 maybe?
08:02 <@aestetix> I dunno
08:04 <@aestetix> Shadow404: wanna play?
08:05 <@Shadow404> is your mom gonna help?
08:06 < cwire> damn, it's like 36 degrees and i need to walk up to walmart
08:06 <@Shadow404> aestetix: and how am i going to get the dvd in time?
08:08 <@aestetix> Shadow404: I have it.
08:08 <@aestetix> And naturally, the first thing I did when I got it was post it online :p
08:08 <@I-MOD> heh
08:08 < cwire> where'd you post it
08:09 <@I-MOD> how many people does a "team" consist of?
08:09 < nated0g_wrk> how many members were in the a-team
08:09 < nated0g_wrk> ?
08:09 <@aestetix> 4
08:09 <@GodFix[HC]> 4
08:10 <@aestetix> cwire: lemme find it hold on
08:10  * nated0g_wrk has to find that scene on youtube
08:12 <@aestetix> I was heavy into forensics before the security industry made me jaded
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08:14 <@aestetix> http://66.11.117.140/~aestetix/
08:14 <@aestetix> there's the DVD
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08:15 < cwire> cool
08:16 < cwire> done
08:16 < cwire> i love the school connection
08:17 <@aestetix> cwire: cool. If you solve anything, send me the solutions :p
08:17 < cwire> ok
08:20 <@aestetix> Ok.
08:21 <@aestetix> Let's say you ask someone for a shell account. And they give you one.
08:21 <@aestetix> Do you (1) use it responsibly, for what you intended. (2) scan all the services to find a hole, and when you do, root the server and fuck your friend over?
08:21 <@Shadow404> depends on the type of friend
08:22 < cwire> yeah
08:22 <@Shadow404> if it was ware, i would go with (2)
08:22 < cwire> if they'll burn your house down, go with 1
08:22 <@Shadow404> nah, just throw a chair in my general direction
08:27 <@GodFix[HC]> just throw the chair over the balcony
08:29 <@GodFix[HC]> what would be really messed up is if it were someone not with the con that just snuck up to the 9th floor
08:32 < cwire> wow, hadn't even thought of that, that would suck
08:33 < poiupoiu> aestetix, any chance i can grab that DVD from ya?
08:33 < poiupoiu> i was just wanting to poke around with it really
08:34 < cwire> there aren't any cameras up on 9 are there?
08:34 <@GodFix[HC]> no cameras that I'm aware of
08:34 < poiupoiu> something to think about doing next PN?
08:34 < cwire> maybe just some cheap webcams
08:35 < poiupoiu> yeah, that's what i was meaning
08:35 < cwire> might actually make the insurance go down?  i don't know
08:35 <@GodFix[HC]> I doubt it would change insurance rates, but it would be a good safety net
08:36 < cwire> yeah
08:40 < cwire> might be worth mentioning to SkyDog at least
08:49 <@I-MOD> hey, if we have cameras everywhere, we might have footage for you suck!
08:49  * I-MOD flips on the big brother paranoia switch
08:50 < cwire> ha, i imagine they'd just use it in the event of asshattery
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08:51 < ware> weeeeeeee! cwire i stayed on mtvmusic.com til 1230
08:51 <@M0j0-j0j0> mornin guys
08:52 < cwire> hahaha
08:52 < cwire> i was surprised you weren't still posting vids when i signed on
08:52 <@Shadow404> cwire: how quick until someone hacks the webcams though
08:52 < cwire> so did rubber johnny give you nightmares!? :-P
08:53 <@Shadow404> rubber johnny?
08:53 < cwire> Shadow404:  yeah, that's probably true
08:53 < cwire> aphex twins video
08:54 <@I-MOD> ok, either someone cooked toaster strudel/poptarts in here, or a PCB just fried...either way, i am exponentially more hungry than I just was :/
08:54 < cwire> you know, i've never mistaken fried pcb for toaster strudel
08:54 < cwire> but now i want one goddamnit
08:56 < ware> lol rubber johnny is nuts
08:56  * ware offers I-MOD some of his oatmeal with butter and brown sugar
08:56 < ware> made with REAL OATS!
08:56 < cwire> i'm debating between ramen and a honey bun
08:57 < ware> Shadow404: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7382676545570345084
08:57 < ware> . His dog's I.Q. far outstrips Johnny's, who is a completely insane, bi-polar imbecile. Capable of morphing his body, he spends his life trying to amuse himself and his dog
08:57 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: you know I have chocolate in my office, don't you?
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08:58 < ware> I-MOD: ITS A TRAP
08:58 < cwire> haha
08:59 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: considering I'm 110 miles away from my office right now, it would have to be one hell of a trap
09:00 < ware> you are sneaky sneaky like that...
09:01 <@Corydon76-dig> You're right.  I've finally conquered Heisenberg to produce a matter transport engine, which I've cleverly hidden in my office.
09:01 < cwire> woot, people's court
09:03 <@I-MOD> Corydon76-dig, thanks, but i had breakfast already and i'm trying to limit my intake
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09:06 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: there are non-chocolate options, too.  cheese crackers and granola bars, if you're sensitive to the sugar
09:07 <@Corydon76-dig> and pretzels, if you look behind the mint chocolates
09:08 < cwire> man your office sounds better than my apartment at the moment
09:08 < ware> yeah thats what i was thinkin
09:08 <@Corydon76-dig> cwire: come work for Digium
09:08 < ware> cept i got some leftover velveta+rotel cheese dip and pizza in the fridge
09:11 < cwire> mmm
09:11 < cwire> i really do need to go shopping soon
09:11 < cwire> at least a little
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09:13 < ware> once you start cooking you enjoy it
09:13 < ware> and eat better and save money
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09:13 < ware> do some chicken breasts or salmon patties in a pan, just brown em on both sides in some spices / red pepper or something
09:14 < cwire> mmm
09:14 < ware> then put em in the oven for 12 min
09:14 < ware> omg tastey
09:14 < ware> boil some rice with it
09:14 < cwire> i could do with some pork chops too
09:14 < ware> yah im hungry now. lol tuna + crackers
09:14 < ware> bee arh bee
09:14 < cwire> haha
09:15 <@I-MOD> Corydon76-dig, i have a friend that's sort of trying to get hired into swdev
09:15 <@I-MOD> :D
09:17 <@Corydon76-dig> sort of trying?
09:17 < ware> half-assin'
09:17 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: best way to do that is how I got hired:  get involved!
09:17 <@I-MOD> trye
09:17 <@I-MOD> true
09:17 <@I-MOD> he's poked kevin a couple of times and gotten no response
09:18  * I-MOD relays advice
09:18 < cwire> i thought you were making a data structures joke, but just a typo
09:18 <@I-MOD> :D
09:18 < cwire> though that's trie
09:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Get into the code, start contributing patches, get on IRC, talk to #asterisk-dev, then poking Kevin has a far greater chance of success
09:20 <@I-MOD> thanks, i'll let him know
09:20 < cwire> mmm more cayenne pepper in my ramen
09:21 < ware> whats that windows app that shows disk space utilization
09:21 <@I-MOD> spacemonger
09:21 < ware> has graphs for folders that are using the most space n stuff
09:22 < cwire> diskview?
09:22 < ware> it was freeware
09:22 < cwire> ah
09:22 < cwire> i'm a fan of diskview
09:23 < cwire> i actually bought it!
09:23 < ware> i was gonna ask how restrictive is the trial
09:23 < cwire> though i've given out the key to a bunch of people
09:23 < cwire> i think the trial only does one partition
09:23 < cwire> or one disk
09:24 < cwire> can't remember
09:27 < MudFlap> TreePie
09:41 < cwire> ware: did you break the mtv music thin!? >_< i keep getting can't load player
09:41 < ware> haha
09:41 < ware> /.'d
09:41 < cwire> balls
09:43 < cwire> i guess mtv never expected to actually need bandwidth since they usually suck balls
09:45 < ware> hehe
09:45 < ware> i was thinkin about pullin a bunch of em down
09:45 < cwire> cool
09:45 < cwire> are they just .flvs?
09:47 < ware> i think so
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09:50 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
09:51 < cwire> yo
09:51 <@GodFix[HC]> yo Dole
09:55 <@Dolemite> Man, my streak is over.  The dentist discovered a small cavity at the back of a tooth this morning.
09:55 <@Dolemite> I hadn't had one in 20 years.
09:55 < cwire> damn
09:55 <@Dolemite> yeah, well, it's part of getting old
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10:18 <@GodFix[HC]> it's too quiet in here
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10:19  * Dolemite farts
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10:21  * ware throws a chair
10:21 < desertc> SkyDog_ awesome weekend
10:21 < desertc> ware haha
10:21 < desertc> using the LiVES video editor now - pretty sweet software
10:22 < desertc> making a video of the weekend - will be online later today
10:22 < desertc> be back later with the link
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10:22 < ware> man since im not smoking ive been eating constantly
10:26 < cwire> nomnomnom
10:27 <@ziplock> after seeing the AK-47 talk, guess what my mind flashed to when I saw this camera rig:
10:27 <@ziplock> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/
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10:35 <@oddball> ziplock: which one on that page?  the flexable display?
10:36 <@ziplock> zacuto baseplates.  Just the initial perception of the pic looked like an assualt rifle to me.  cam light sheild as the shoulder stock etc
10:37 <@oddball> ah
10:38 <@Jagobah> (09:22:18AM) <ware> whats that windows app that shows disk space utilization <--- WinDirStat can do it, and it's free
10:40 <@nachoguy> anyone know a linux console tool that gives you stats as to where your bandwidth is going?  like 23% of packets go to 192.168.1.110, 44% go to 192.168.1.135
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10:40 <@brimstone> nachoguy: iftop?
10:40 <@nachoguy> I've seen it and can't remember what the hell it's called
10:41 <@nachoguy> that's it
10:42 < eryc> also trafshow
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10:43 <@remoford> iptraf
10:43  * Curbob thought he lived in the south, why am i cold!??
10:43 < eryc> ntop
10:43 <@ShadowHntr> lol Curbob if only it were like florida year round ;)
10:44  * Curbob goes to his happy place
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10:45 < cwire> yeah, it's lame, i needed to go to walmart but fuck walking when it's like 39
10:51 < C-P> morning
10:53  * Catonic_lp just grumbles
10:55 < eryc> FUCK YOU
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11:01 <@Catonic_lp> eryc: ...
11:01 <@Catonic_lp> I thought you loved me.
11:01 <@Drag0n> mourning
11:01 <@Dolemite> who died?
11:01 <@Catonic_lp> Drag0n: sup Drag0n
11:01 <@Drag0n> sleep
11:01 <@Dolemite> fair enough
11:01 <@Drag0n> mourning the death of sleep
11:07 <@brimstone> lol, "morning, the death of sleep"
11:07 <@rhia> see what i mean about his puns?
11:07 <@brimstone> i <3 puns
11:08 <@brimstone> i love puns as much as i love pockets
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11:08 <@Drag0n> do you have a hole in your pocket?
11:08 <@brimstone> only one
11:08 < ware> hes just happy to see you
11:08 < cwire> sweet, just saw that irongeek put up some videos http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/phreaknic-12-hacker-con
11:09 <@I-MOD> brimstone, only one pocket?
11:10 < ware> http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/beating_costume/hung.jpg
11:16 < ware> http://2.media.bustedtees.com/bustedtees/mf/b/1/bustedtees.9e6d7d8be32b973a4ebb2731293c57d2.jpg
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11:20 <@GodFix[HC]> Irongeeks video is pretty interesting so far
11:21 < cwire> yeah
11:21 < ware> i took the vid of him throwing the chair at the toss
11:23 < cwire> he did some crazy fast editing for it to already be up
11:23  * poiupoiu watches it
11:23 < poiupoiu> wonder if he used LiVes
11:23 < poiupoiu> :P
11:23 < cwire> i don't have time to watch the whole thing now unfortunately, but the bit i watched looks pretty awesome so far
11:28 <@dc0de_> NotLarry: ping
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11:33 <@dc0de> where's irongeek?
11:37 <@Dolemite> geographically speaking?
11:38 <@SkyDog_> Metaphorically?
11:38 <@Dolemite> Intellectually?
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11:39 <@dc0de> all of the above...
11:39 <@ziplock> MIA
11:39 <@ziplock> :)
11:39 <@Dolemite> He lives in the Louisville area
11:39 <@dc0de> wow, everyone took their "wiseass" pills this morning... :)
11:39 <@dc0de> I wanted to thank him for his videos of the con... I'm watching them, and they're cool...
11:39 < cwire> what'd you expect dc0de?
11:40 <@Dolemite> and dc0de apparently didn't finish his bowl of "Enough information for people to answer the question"ies
11:40 <@dc0de> Dolemite: I just woke up... working on my first cup of coffee....
11:40 <@Dolemite> slacker!
11:40 <@dc0de> I start work next monday, and that's going to be a shock to the system.
11:40 < cwire> dling network miner
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11:41 <@dc0de> apparently, I'm now on GMT -8 timezone
11:41 < cwire> o_O
11:41 <@dc0de> I have to knock myself out tonight, goto bed early, and get back on a GMT -4 routine, just in time for the time change.
11:43 <@Jagobah> Does anyone know of a tool or routine that can compare the contents of two folders, show you the differences between them, and offer to synchronize them?
11:43 < cwire> what os
11:44 <@Dolemite> FreeBSD has a ports-merge tool that does that
11:44 <@Dolemite> but I don't know how easily adaptable that is to other uses
11:44 <@Jagobah> windows
11:44 < cwire> try robocopy?
11:44 <@dc0de> xcopy
11:45 <@dc0de> well, it won't show you the diff...
11:45 <@Jagobah> I was thinking synctoy but simpler
11:45 <@Catonic_lp> I can't believe we're up to 70 people in IRC
11:45 <@dc0de> it'll only update the files that have older or newer d/t stamps.
11:45 <@rhia> Catonic_: always spikes after PN or OZ
11:45 < cwire> i think robocopy just saves the diffs
11:45 <@Jagobah> ok I'll check that out
11:45 < cwire> it's like xcopy but better
11:45 <@Jagobah> I mainly just want to generate reports about what changes between backups
11:45 < cwire> saw someone review it not long ago, hold on
11:45 <@dc0de> Jagobah: did you look at sourceforge?
11:46 <@Catonic_lp> is it bad when you get to the point where you can't listen to rap at work?
11:46 <@dc0de> you might be able to do that with perl
11:46 <@dc0de> Catonic_lp: I can't listen to rap at a stoplight. is that bad?
11:46 < cwire> ha
11:47 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
11:47 <@ShadowHntr> i can't stand most rap anyway
11:47 <@ShadowHntr> :P
11:47 <@Evilpig> Catonic_lp is having an office space moment today
11:48 <@ShadowHntr> ahhhh
11:48 <@dc0de> unless it's the Beasty Boyz, or 4/25th, it's not in my playlist
11:48 <@Catonic_lp> nah..
11:48  * Dagmar croups
11:48 <@Catonic_lp> Dagmar: did you get con flu?
11:48 <@Dagmar> No.  I managed to dodge that.
11:48 <@Dagmar> However...
11:48  * Catonic_lp found Ying Yang Twins
11:48 <@Dagmar> NotLarry managed to catch something and bring it to the office with him yesterday
11:48 <@Catonic_lp> hrm..
11:48 <@dc0de> Dagmar: send NotLarry home...
11:48  * ShadowHntr is jammin' to The Killers - When You Were Young (MP3)
11:48 <@Dagmar> Something which is apparently quite contagious
11:49 <@Catonic_lp> you know, that dick cheney mask got around
11:49 <@Catonic_lp> Neoteric, JimShoe, SkyDog_, NotLarry ...
11:49 <@Dagmar> dc0de: He does this thing where he'll sit there at the workstation and say "Hm... I'm sick, I should probably go home" and then keep getting distracted from actually going home
11:49 <@Catonic_lp> might have been bird flu...
11:49 <@dc0de> they all have con-flu?
11:50 <@Dagmar> He's sat there and worked through the whole shift doing that before so I can't tell how sick he is unless he starts turning colors
11:50 <@Catonic_lp> Dagmar: he can cope with illness like you can cope with a moving floor...  for much the same reasons.
11:50 <@Dagmar> Yesterday, apparently two hours was all it took to get me a 100F fever, coughing, sniffles, headache and mild nausea
11:50 <@nachoguy> yay, so one of the engineers here made asterisk debian packages.  We installed them last night, and somehow our load and our bandwidth has spiked (almost double sometimes).  He must have done something real interesting.
11:51 <@dc0de> Dagmar: get you some of that "Airborne", and keep taking it...
11:51 <@Jagobah> I'll try out robocopy and freefilesync and see how they fare :)
11:51 <@Jagobah> thank
11:51 <@Jagobah> thanks*
11:51 <@Dagmar> dc0de: I'm thinking you may have an idea there
11:51 <@dc0de> Jagobah: let us know how it goes...
11:51 <@Dagmar> Catonic_: Well, I can "cope" with this--it just sucks--but apparently it's pretty damn contagious
11:51 <@dc0de> Dagmar: when I flew like a bird around the country, it was one of the things that helped me keep from getting everyone's cold/flu/sickness on board the aircraft.
11:51 < cwire> shit, forgot .net was a web install >_<
11:52 <@oddball> isn't Airborne the product that got hit with a class action lawsuit because it didn't actually do anything?
11:52 <@dc0de> Dagmar: that, and I wore condoms...
11:52 <@dc0de> oddball: I thought that was Enzyte
11:52 <@oddball> ah
11:53 <@dc0de> I have the "PERFECT" male enhancement product.  If used as directed, will increase the size of your "member" by at least 20%
11:53 <@dc0de> it's called vaseline.
11:53 <@dc0de> and the directions are, "Get some porn, and rub vigorously on member while watching porn."
11:54 < cwire> false advertisement dc0de!
11:54  * Catonic_lp can't follow directions
11:54 <@Catonic_lp> dick goes where?
11:54 <@dc0de> cwire: you have ED?
11:54 <@oddball> oops, nope... there was a class action against them, which they settled out of court.
11:54 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: well, in fact, Airborne does precisely nothing
11:54 <@dc0de> oddball: oh
11:54 < cwire> haha, but you said it increases by 20%
11:54 < cwire> lame
11:54 <@dc0de> cwire: my lawyers made me say 20%...
11:54 < cwire> lol
11:55 < cwire> nice
11:55 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: only ionic zinc has been proven to do anything positive in regards to the common cold
11:56 <@Neoteric> friday november the 13th 6:31pm EST == unix epoch time 1234567890
11:56 <@dc0de> zinc also helps reduce the smell of your feet.
11:56 <@dc0de> Neoteric: did you get con-flu?
11:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Hence, Zicam, Cold-eeze, and various other zinc-based products
11:56 < cwire> zicam works great
11:56 <@Dagmar> Oh lord I forgot what this cold stuff tastes like
11:56 <@dc0de> I simply take zinc tablets.
11:56 <@oddball> Well, it does have a shit ton of vitamin C in it...
11:57 <@dc0de> I have done so for years...
11:57 <@dc0de> and I take chewable C.
11:57 <@Dolemite> dc0de : And yet your feet stink!
11:57 <@Dagmar> Umm... You keep *chewable* vitamins around?
11:57 <@dc0de> Dolemite: actually, they don't...
11:57 <@Dagmar> Do you have kids?
11:57 <@dc0de> Dagmar: I have a house full of kids. and chewable c is easier when travelling.
11:57 <@dc0de> you don't have to find water.
11:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: they're easier to swallow than the horse pills
11:58 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Well, I don't have any problems with pills.
11:58 <@oddball> vitamin C Halls ftw
11:58 <@Dolemite> Most of the Vitamin C tablets I see at the grocery/box store are chewable
11:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: I use a chewable multivitamin for the same reason
11:58 <@dc0de> and since you cant take water through security, and they charge $$$$ for a 12oz bottle, yes, I carry chewables.
11:58 <@Dagmar> ...and I kinda considered all vitamin C pills to be "chewable", or at least "crunchy"
11:58 <@dc0de> Dagmar: not when they get stuck in your throat.
11:59 <@Dagmar> dc0de: I just chewed em up because they were really sour
11:59 <@Dagmar> <-- likes sour
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11:59 <@dc0de> ahh, do you chew aspirin too?
11:59 <@Dagmar> Being a sickbie kid tho, I got used to taking all kinds of pills.
11:59 <@Dagmar> Hell no
11:59 <@Dagmar> I have powdered aspirin for when I'm that desperate
11:59 < cwire> to snort
11:59 <@dc0de> I'd rather chew aspirin than vitamins.
11:59 <@Dagmar> That stuff tastes godawful
12:00 <@Dolemite> BC Powder
12:00 <@Dolemite> definitely a Southern thing
12:00 <@Dagmar> "When the headache has to go away, right effing now"
12:00 <@dc0de> if I need it to go away now, i chew bayer... and hold it under my tongue
12:00 <@Dolemite> That's what BC is
12:00 <@Catonic_lp> Dagmar: you just never stopped taking pills, did you?
12:00 <@Dolemite> Bayer + Caffeine
12:01 < cwire> does it actually work that good?  i just pop some tylenol and it goes away sufficiently fast for me
12:01 <@dc0de> BC has caffeine, that's interesting.
12:01 <@Dagmar> dc0de: Well, vitamin C in particular does not taste like vitamins.  It tastes like oranges.  Like, 1,000 oversized bavarian oranges that want to turn your mouth inside out
12:01 <@Dolemite> BC is definitely an instant effect
12:01 < cwire> ooh me wants vitamin c now
12:02 <@dc0de> so is chewing bayer... 'cept the nasty bitter taste.
12:02 <@Dagmar> It's not a 'bad' taste per se, it's like Shock Tarts with no self-restraint
12:02 <@oddball> Dagmar can atest to how I start popping vitamin C cough drops when I start feeling bad.
12:02 <@Dagmar> dc0de: Tehre's caffiene in them because of all the people who get headaches from their piddling little caffiene problem, and because it makes you feel "better" about as quickly as the aspirin kills the pain
12:03 <@dc0de> ahh.
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12:03 <@Dagmar> Anything that says "migraine" on it for instance, will *definitely* have caffiene
12:03 <@nachoguy> excedrine used to pack a shitton of caffeine
12:03 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Link to pics?
12:03 <@Dagmar> Wow.
12:04 <@Dagmar> Opheria actually turns her cell phone off for classes
12:04  * nachoguy <-lazy bastard.
12:04 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Pass this link on to Warren.  He was asking about turning tap handles and getting the ferrules for mounting them...   http://www.kegworks.com/home.php?cat=855
12:07 <@nachoguy> sent
12:07 <@Dolemite> danke
12:08 <@Dolemite> he said he's going to turn a Hacker Inside tap handle for me for next year :)
12:17 < cwire> can anyone think of the tool that scott moulton was talking about that issues the command for the self harddrive wipe thing?
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12:20 <@SkyDog_> Hang on.
12:20 <@SkyDog_> I have it in my store.
12:20 <@Evilpig> Hello this is wilbur thank you for calling the tech phsycic hotline.  Unplug your PC thanks, bye.
12:22 <@Dagmar> Damn newbs
12:22 <@Dagmar> That idiot bitch who was calling for my head when I posted to LJ the last time seems to think she can tell people that write-in votes all go to McCain
12:23 <@Dagmar> That's so fucking wrong it's not funny
12:23 <@Jagobah> Dolemite: One of the ways caffeine works is by constricting the blood vessels in your brain and assists in producing adrenaline hormones
12:23 <@Jagobah> So that's why it is used in some headache medicines
12:23 <@Evilpig> dumb cunt manager just called me to tell me about a problem which made no sense so I dtold her to stop.  Think about what she is trying to say and then tell me.  The answer I got was  "But i'm sleepy" <click>
12:23 <@Dagmar> Jagobah: "assists"?  No... It flat out kicks the adrenal gland into gear
12:24 < cwire> wow, "but i'm sleepy" was the best comeback?
12:24 <@SkyDog_> Was it eraser?
12:24 < Catonic_> http://68.209.203.168/strips/2008.10.29/Dilbert-2008.10.29.gif
12:24 <@Evilpig> and they wonder why the fuck I am always in a bad mood when I answer their god damned phone calls
12:24 <@Jagobah> Ironically, one of the withdrawal symptoms of caffeine addiction are painful headaches
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12:25 <@Dagmar> Jagobah: You can also hit a point with caffiene where the adrenal gland just gets tuckered out
12:25 <@oddball> Dagmar: didn't you know? write in votes are really votes for $hated_candidate.
12:26 < cwire> eraser sounds familiar
12:26 < cwire> thx
12:26 <@Dagmar> oddball: They're not.  laceyslostmind will just have to deal with being dead wrong
12:26 <@SkyDog_> cwire: Cool.
12:26 <@Dagmar> Watch her act like I'm a jew-hunting nazi for saying she's wrong tho
12:26 <@SkyDog_> I have all of the software from the class, but there are only one or two wiping programs.
12:26 <@Catonic> DBAN
12:27 <@Evilpig> hated_candidate = "Ross Perot";
12:27 <@Jagobah> I remember it was referred to as "Secure Erase"
12:27 <@Dagmar> Catonic: He's not talkign abotu dban actually.
12:28 <@Dagmar> There's a firmware invocation you can do that will make a drive zero all it's sectors, regardless of what's been remapped because it was marked bad
12:28 <@Dagmar> Not all drives support it
12:28 <@Dagmar> I think it shows up in the list of SMART features if you probe it
12:28 <@Dagmar> IF it's there
12:28 <@Jagobah> http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/Hughes/subpgset.htm
12:29 <@Dagmar> Looks like it's been securely erased.
12:29 <@Jagobah> hahaha
12:30 < cwire> http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/HDDErase.zip
12:30 <@Jagobah> well the link to the program is on there
12:30 < eryc> hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahah
12:30 <@Dagmar> oddball: Yep.  The bitch is already carping at me.
12:31 < vyrus001> mmm hungry
12:31 <@Catonic> Dagmar: format 5 0 0 0 0 0
12:31 <@rhia> what's her justification for ALL write-ins --> McCain?
12:32 < vyrus001> sure why not
12:32 <@Dagmar> rhia: She's a bint?
12:32 < cwire> balls, the airsoft gun i ordered is on back order
12:32 <@Dagmar> "i've asked you repeatedly not to fucking talk to me. all you do is start shit and make shit up." <--- this little snipe she made at me is also 100% crazed delusion
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12:32 <@Catonic> what's a bint?
12:33 <@Dagmar> Catonic: A stupid cunt
12:33 <@rhia> democratic paranoia? previous TN history? complete lack of understanding of process? didn't take her meds today?
12:33 <@Dagmar> Could be all of them
12:33 <@rhia> ahhh
12:33 <@Catonic> sinfest has been batting .1000 for the last two days
12:33 <@oddball> rhia: I'm guessing she's making the assumtion that anyone voting for a write in would naturally vote Obama over McCain.
12:33 <@Catonic> sinfest.net
12:33 <@Dagmar> This is the chick who made the serious mistake of bringing Pat's death by taser into a thread about a month back
12:34 <@Dagmar> ...when I was talking about people being aware they might have to take some initiative to preserve order.
12:34 <@Catonic> http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-10-28.gif
12:34 <@Catonic> http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-10-29.gif
12:34 <@Dagmar> So, she's probably still furious with me about that
12:35 <@Dagmar> rhia: It's actually got to be one of the biggest argumentation blunders I've ever seenn
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12:35 <@Dagmar> Basically, this kid Pat gets tasered and dies at The Cannery because he was on a bunch of drugs and being an idiot.
12:36 <@Dagmar> Leading up to that was that his "friends" were clearly being chickenshit and didn't do anything to get him out of there once the police were called
12:36 <@rhia> remember you ranting on that in here month or so back
12:36 <@Dagmar> Now, I wouldn't dream of blaming them for his death because they could not possibly have forseen where that chain of events was going, but...
12:36 <@Dagmar> You'd be a fucking MORON not to learn from that
12:38 <@Dagmar> Knowing Pat and his history with the police, I would have figured a $25 cab ride would have been a small price to pay to keep him out of trouble
12:38 <@Dagmar> But hey, since I'm not pointing a finger at someone else, apparently it automatically makes me the world's largest asshole
12:39 <@Dagmar> I still miss that kid
12:39 <@Dagmar> It doesn't help that one of TechnoBob's guys looks just like Pat
12:40 <@Catonic> TelcoBob is now TechnoBob?
12:40 <@Dagmar> Sorry.  Thinko there
12:40 <@Dagmar> Cold medicine
12:41 <@Catonic> hey, it works for me... he was rolling techno in the groove machine
12:41 <@Dagmar> If it makes you feel better, I just had to sedish in a follow-up post to the one that girl is pissed about because I enumerated three possible outcomes to a write-in vote, labeled, a, b, and c, and typed "two"
12:43 < ware> i would like a 10-strip and an zip of jack herer plz thnx
12:43 < ware> and a*
12:43 < ware> stripper
12:44 < eryc> me too plz
12:44 < ware> me first
12:45 <@Catonic> ware: explain to me this...
12:45 <@Catonic> you had a horny drunk girl in your room... and you were fixated on hitting a strip club...
12:45 < ware> Catonic: that was friday night
12:45 < ware> she wasnt around friday
12:45 <@Catonic> Most of the con is a blur
12:45 < eryc> ya she was at the strip club
12:46 <@Dolemite> and had a lazy eye
12:46 < ware> and either way, she looks like a pug dog that humped an electrical socket
12:46 < ware> bulging eyes and all
12:46 <@nachoguy> hot!  Was she also incapable of blinking?
12:46 < ware> tim found pics of the lazy eyed chick from last year
12:47 <@Jagobah> ;0
12:48 < ware> http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v284/149/77/147200968/n147200968_30147369_689.jpg
12:48 < ware> pug gal
12:48 < eryc> shes nto bad
12:48 <@Dagmar> ~minilink
12:48 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/facebook.com/D7pke.jpg
12:48 <@Dagmar> Beth seemed like a nice girl to me.
12:49 < cwire> man, pugs are awesome
12:49 < ware> shes not horrible but she isnt smokin
12:49 <@nachoguy> Chestacular
12:49 <@Dagmar> Then again, this is probably part of the reason why you're having to sleep with "the fat chick"
12:50 <@Catonic> meh...
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12:50 <@Catonic> it's all relative..
12:50 <@rhia> would all restuarants and other service industries please enact a simple test before allowing employees to interact with the public: is your IQ over 40? can you speak the common language of your customers? do you have less than 2 inches of wax buildup in your ears so you can hear the customer?
12:50 <@Catonic> if you're in LA and the fat chick is 115 lbs instead of 105...
12:50 < cwire> lol
12:50 < cwire> anorexia: you're doing it wrong
12:50 < ware> Dagmar: i would take 'the fat chick' as its been a year
12:51 <@Catonic> if you're in BFE and the skinny chick is 150 lbs...
12:51 <@Catonic> ... that's why I don't date in BFE =)
12:51 <@Dagmar> Okay, you *are* an idiot because even *I* could tell that Beth was looking for male companionship
12:51 < ware> actually, thats a lie lol i turned down 'the fat chick' on 2 different occaisons lol
12:52 < ware> Dagmar: we were swappin back rubs til we passed out, but i had timoguin and trip and my roomie in my room too
12:52 <@Catonic> ware: And?
12:52 <@Catonic> you give a shit, why?
12:52 <@Jagobah> Found this in my link collection and it made me laugh: http://www.phreaknic.info/pn12/chairincident/images/DSCN0376.jpg
12:52 <@Jagobah> And I wanna know more about this story
12:52 < ware> Catonic: durno
12:53 <@SkyDog_> That is this year.
12:53 < ware> but i did
12:53 <@SkyDog_> hit the main phreaknic.info site. it's near the bottom.
12:53 < ware> yeah last year I paid $75
12:53 <@Jagobah> hahaha
12:53 <@Dagmar> I will obtain another inflatable chair for next year.
12:53 < ware> the chair industry is booming, doubled in a year
12:53 <@Catonic> ware: then you are honorable.
12:53 <@Dagmar> If someone really, absolutely has to throw a chair off the balcony, they can throw that
12:54 <@SkyDog_> well, it's not really funny, it came out of the PN12 funds.
12:54 <@SkyDog_> If it had done some damage, we'd be screwed, as our event insurance ended sometime that morning.
12:54 <@SkyDog_> we couldn't have covered it.
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12:55 <@Jagobah> For having a chair throwing contest I just thought it was funny someone's chair also happened to get broken
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12:56 < cwire> the chair throwing contest chair got broken as well
12:59 < eryc> next year lets have a ware throwing contest
13:01 < ware> lol
13:03 <@Catonic_lp> ware in a dunk booth
13:04 < ware> hey, id do that
13:04 <@Catonic_lp> ware :what won't you do?
13:04 <@Catonic_lp> ... except for a woman...
13:04 < ware> a man
13:04 < ware> lol
13:09 <@Drag0n> why wait till next year, we can find a large cliff somewhere
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13:23 <@Dagmar> ugh gonna go lie down again
13:23 <@Shadow404> ware in a dunk booth in the middle of a blizzard
13:24 <@Shadow404> then i can say diab
13:25 < ware> drown in a booth?
13:25 <@I-MOD> die in a barn?
13:25 <@Shadow404> im going with wares, but my idea was die in a blizzard
13:25 < ware> duh internets are booming
13:25 <@I-MOD> drunk in a basilica!
13:26 < ware> zolved.com/rc
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13:31 <@Evilpig> and nobody said dick in a box?
13:32 < Cinotac> That's what I'm going for as halloween.
13:32 < Cinotac> cheney in a cage.
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13:44 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: now now Evilpig, no one thinks like u do
13:45 <@Shadow404> u get horny when a female dwarf character dances in wow
13:46 <@Evilpig> no I don't.  I get horny after I stomp that piece of shit into the ground
13:47 <@Evilpig> speaking of wow.  I need to run a dozen heroics tonight and finsih my stuff.  I got my outland raider one last night after we killed kil'jaeden
13:49 < ware> isnt he the last raid boss? like the hardest one
13:50 <@Evilpig> yes
13:51 <@Shadow404> until lich king
13:51 <@Shadow404> ware: but you are to much of a noob to know that
13:52 < ware> true
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13:52 < eryc> someone name an artist or song
13:52 <@M0j0-j0j0> Bob Dylan
13:53 <@Shadow404> Aphex twins
13:53 <@rhia> Yes, we have no bananas
13:53 <@Shadow404> paul van dyk
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13:53 < eryc> :) thanks!
13:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> Dancing in the Moonlight
13:53 <@rhia> Don't Worry. Be Happy.
13:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> Iron Maiden
13:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> Only the Good Die Young
13:54 <@M0j0-j0j0> Aces High
13:54 <@rhia> Stuck Mojo
13:54 <@Evilpig> eat the rich
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13:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> Love in an Elevator
13:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> Voodoo Medicine Man
13:55 <@M0j0-j0j0> ABBA
13:55 <@Evilpig> this virtual server seems hung damnit
13:55 <@Shadow404> heh, making love in an elevator is quite exciting
13:55 <@Shadow404> now, making love to an elevator is just disturbing
13:56 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: if you can finish in that short a time.  I feel sorry for scotchick
13:56 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: thats why there is an emergency stop button
13:56 <@Shadow404> hehe
13:56 <@rhia> Love on an escalator
13:56 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'd rather people have sex in an elevator than drop a hot steaming loaf in one
13:57 <@Evilpig> next year.  wireless camera in the grating above the elevators
13:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> Evilpig: that would only act to encourage people doing stupid things in there
13:58 < desertc> :P   ...you make a video with the footage you have, not with the footage you want....   here's my pretty poor first attempt at making a video  http://blip.tv/file/1410807/   glad to learn about LiVES so I could learn how to do video editing - maybe I'll be somewhat competent by next year
13:59 <@M0j0-j0j0> if we could set up some pinhole cameras for next year we could do use it all for the U Sux thing
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14:02 <@GodFix[HC]> what happened with scotchick?
14:04 <@Evilpig> GodFix[HC]: ware raped her.  then Shadow404 threw hium off the roof.  it was really tragic
14:04 < ware> lulz bak frum teh ded
14:05 <@Evilpig> shutup your'e dead
14:05 <@GodFix[HC]> I would have thought she would have thrown herself off the roof after having been.... Oh I'll not be mean right now
14:05 < ware> ima ghost ghost ghost ghost~  -How High
14:06 < ware> 'nah man. he a ghost.'  "shit well that explain errythang then.."
14:10 < cwire> desertc:  was that a musical instrument or a massive bong that the shaman dude had? :)
14:17 <@Catonic> stop making eye contact.. that's just creepy
14:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Also explains her not feeling anything
14:22 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkgMbU-we1o
14:27 <@Catonic> hey, what do I need to implement a non-geek friendly myth setup?
14:28 <@Evilpig> knoppmyth I hear
14:28 < eryc> a tivo
14:28 <@Evilpig> I have the iso on my desktop to try out later myself
14:28 <@Dolemite> mythbuntu is more non-geek
14:28 < eryc> and a tivo will always be better
14:28 <@Dolemite> it's also a lot easier to keep up to date with
14:29 <@Dolemite> knoppmyth was never very good at upgrade paths
14:29 <@Dolemite> But it was a great thing when it came out
14:30 < eryc> myth sux
14:31 <@Dolemite> Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion on the matter, despite it being completely wrong. :)
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14:34 <@oddball> Dolemite: is there still a free tv listings server out there?
14:34 <@Dolemite> oddball : No, but schedulesdirect.org is only $20/year to subscribe to.  It's the most supported listing source for the Free/OSS projects.
14:36 <@Dolemite> Tribune was pissed that people were using the data they provided for free in devices that they sold, so they gave notice to the community to come up with a solution to fix the problem.  Schedules Direct was the answer and at the price they charge is definitely just a modest fee for operational costs.
14:37 <@Dolemite> If you're doing HD over the air you can snag the listing from the signal itself and not have to subscribe to anything.
14:38 <@Dolemite> I'm still waiting on this little device to come out so that HD component video capture will be mega cheaper...   http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/videorecorder/
14:38 <@Dolemite> ~minilink
14:38 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/blackmagic-design.com/Iga2F
14:39 <@Dolemite> Hauppauge's HD-PVR is $249.  $119 is much easier to swallow when you want multiple inputs.
14:40 < eryc> crap
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14:50 <@oddball> Yay!  We are now in account manager limbo with our data provider!
14:50 <@Catonic> better than being in hell
14:51 <@oddball> Oh no... that's my normal dealings with these people.
14:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Hell is relative
14:52 <@oddball> For those of you that remember my ranting about the Amazing Fucktard a few years back, I wouldn't be suprised if they hired him... and thought he was great.
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15:11 < Irongeek> I got the chair toss someone in thiss video:
15:11 < Irongeek> http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/phreaknic-12-hacker-con
15:11 < Irongeek> I can't type sick. :)
15:13 < Irongeek> I think Lowtek and I will make it to Outerz0n.
15:13 < cwire> sweet
15:14 < cwire> the videos are good Irongeek
15:15 < Irongeek> Are there any Outerz0ne videos out the so I can see what the con is like?
15:16 < cwire> i don't think any of the talks are up, at least from last year
15:16 < cwire> but it's relatively similar to phreaknic
15:16 < cwire> though smaller
15:16 < cwire> quite a few of the same speakers
15:16 < Irongeek> Too bad it's a 6 hr drive for me.
15:17 < Irongeek> But I hope to catch a ride with Lowtek.
15:17 < Irongeek> And sorteal may come as well.
15:17 < cwire> it's about a 5 minute ride for me ;)
15:17 < cwire> if it's at the same hotel last years was
15:18 < Irongeek> Damn, I wish I had one that close.
15:18 <@Catonic> So I walked into the office next door and ask the guys: "Anybody got a gender changer?" ... and the admin closest to me reaches back, pulls, and hands me his pocket knife.
15:18 < cwire> yeah
15:18 < Irongeek> There is the Louisville ISSA conf, but it is mostly for suits.
15:18 < cwire> ah
15:18 < Irongeek> I'm trying to help change that however.
15:19 < cwire> Catonic: was that what you were going for?
15:20 < Irongeek> Got to go watch dead set. Catch you later.
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15:27 <@Jagobah> oh he's in louisville!
15:29 <@Dolemite> Oh dear gawd.  They're remaking Footloose.
15:29 <@Dolemite> Starring the gay boy lead from High School Musical.
15:29 < cwire> there was only 1?
15:29 <@Dolemite> *lead*
15:29 <@Dolemite> the others were supporting
15:29 < cwire> oh, right :-P
15:33 <@Catonic> cwire: db9
15:33 < cwire> haha ok
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16:05  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
16:05 < eryc> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2981648463_a9fdf67b85_b.jpg
16:08 <@dc0de> can someone point me to the "Hacker Inside" logo? I want to carve it into a pumpkin.
16:08 <@droops> hey anybody have a pic of telcobobs music thing?
16:08  * brimstone bitshifts droops
16:09 <@droops> thanks brimstone, i have been trying to scratch that itch all day
16:11 <@brimstone> np
16:12 < cwire> droops: http://gallery.cwired.net/main.php?g2_itemId=1759
16:12 <@droops> awesome thanks
16:12 <@droops> morgellon and i got our talk online
16:12 <@droops> http://www.vimeo.com/2100275
16:13 < cwire> and dc0de: http://www.phreaknic.info/pn12/images/logo2.png
16:28 <@aestetix> is wilpig still hosting the phreaknic videos?
16:28 <@aestetix> I don't actually remember if I saw a talk
16:28 <@aestetix> I spent most of saturday night chasing tail
16:28 < cwire> he said the copies he has aren't worth hosting i think, waiting on the dvds
16:32 <@timoguin> aestetix: You were there?
16:36 < ware> timoguin: for friday
16:38 <@ziplock> speaking of gender changers, I saw one guy open his shwag bag and get the bottle opener out and he thought it was a mini-fleshlight
16:39 <@timoguin> Well, mine fucked me pretty good saturday night.
16:39 <@timoguin> Full of tequila and all...
16:42 < C-P> anyone ever heard of jahshaka?
16:44 < ware> ziplock: lolol
16:45 <@nachoguy> Timoguin, your fleshlight was full of tequila?
16:50 <@brimstone> ziplock: we joked around it's a "knob polisher"
16:50 <@timoguin> nachoguy: yes.
16:51 <@ziplock> gives a whole new meaning to Hacker, where it says hacker inside....
16:51 <@brimstone> little hacker inside...
16:54 <@aestetix> timoguin: yeah
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17:00 <@Catonic> I need to buy a postal scale.
17:02 <@M0j0-j0j0> I need to scale a postal office.
17:02 <@aestetix> I need some more phreaknic condoms
17:02 <@Catonic> aestetix: here, use mine.
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17:11 < Catonic_lp> sup tool
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17:13 <@Catonic> So you need 133PSI to make espresso.
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17:18 <@aestetix> dude
17:18 <@aestetix> I was feeling like shit
17:18 <@aestetix> then I ate a snack
17:18 <@aestetix> and now I feel better
17:18 <@aestetix> that was cool
17:20 < TelcoBob> hax!
17:22 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: sup my nigga?!
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17:22 < TelcoBob> haha
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17:23 < TelcoBob> its ok, im only 1/32 black
17:23 < TelcoBob> but nothing really, just got off work, trying to find a new job (if you got the txt i sent you hah) and im working on haxing up a fog machine ghostbusters pack
17:24 < TelcoBob> and we got djghostbuster.com and hopefully we will all have ghostbuster suits by notacon
17:24 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: we need to work on getting rid of the cord
17:24 <@Catonic> TelcoBob: nice.
17:24 < TelcoBob> no i love the cord
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17:24 <@Catonic> you boys need any help, holler.
17:25 < TelcoBob> its the only thing that keeps me from totally tripping out hahah i have to focus on that
17:25 <@Catonic> you might consider distributed power..
17:25 < TelcoBob> plus with wireless wed need amp and power at the speakers too
17:25 <@Catonic> TelcoBob: I can hook you up with all the 4" speakers you'll never need.
17:25 <@Catonic> and they are rated at 15W apiece.
17:25 <@Catonic> not so good for bass though.
17:25 < TelcoBob> yea
17:26 <@M0j0-j0j0> well, I figure you have the battery, amp, and speaker with a receiver on pack 2 and 3
17:26 <@Catonic> ooh...
17:26 < TelcoBob> id love to get some stage speakers
17:26 <@Catonic> so what if you close the pack, and put speakers around the edge?
17:26 < TelcoBob> like on the amp frame?
17:26 <@Catonic> 5-6" deep is enough for speakers up and down
17:26 <@Catonic> yeah
17:26 < TelcoBob> because i was thinking abotu that for a standalone version for halloween
17:26 <@ziplock> considered routing the cord thru an industrial water hose to add to the steampunk look?
17:27 <@Catonic> then you can put like four or something on the back.. .. load the entire box as a bass cabinet
17:27 < TelcoBob> the thing is we are playing music so loud that most little speakers sound like crap
17:27 < TelcoBob> Catonic: accually i wanna get a comically fat guy to hold a sub
17:27 <@Catonic> TelcoBob: can you process the audio some how?
17:27 <@Catonic> electronic crossover?
17:27 < TelcoBob> i don tknow accually
17:28 <@Catonic> what you'd need is to route everyting below 120 hz to both sides, and then left and right to either side
17:28 < TelcoBob> i dont think itiw oudl help as its just physical limitations of the speakers that are the problem
17:28 <@Catonic> TelcoBob: I can help you there =)
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17:28 <@Catonic> TelcoBob: where'd you get the amp frame at?
17:28 < TelcoBob> Catonic: thats not a bad idea
17:28 < TelcoBob> Catonic: a stolen coke crate hah
17:29 <@Catonic> Hrm... I'm thinking about doing the same for halloween...
17:29 <@Catonic> that's a killer idea...
17:29 < TelcoBob> well if you have any neat advance ments feel free to share :-p
17:29 <@Catonic> TelcoBob: on the wiki, right?
17:29 < TelcoBob> wiki?
17:30 <@Catonic> you're putting one up, right?
17:30 <@M0j0-j0j0> aestetix: thanks for my first kick in se2600... sorry you don't have soul.
17:30 < TelcoBob> i could :-p
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17:30 < TelcoBob> i mean it never was ment to turn into a serious project
17:30 < TelcoBob> but id love to see where it goes
17:30 < TelcoBob> i mean we figured wed stop as soon as we started seeing to many clonesh ah
17:31 < TelcoBob> the clones so far have all been like ipod speakers in back packs and stuff hah
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17:31 <@aestetix> you said the magic word
17:31 <@aestetix> I have never been kicked in here either.
17:33 <@I-MOD> TelcoBob, now you need wireless speakers with a smaller amp in each backpack :D
17:33 <@I-MOD> so the speakerdudes can walk around
17:33 < TelcoBob> I-MOD: eh, then wed need to have power in each speaker
17:34 < TelcoBob> and right now we get like 6-8 hours at full blast
17:34 <@I-MOD> yeah, that's the only unfortunate part
17:34 <@I-MOD> not bad
17:34 < TelcoBob> and we are going for the most mobility we can get while not dieing before the party does
17:34 <@M0j0-j0j0> aestetix: you might be a little over sensitive about it.. course.. you don't know me so... think what you will.
17:35 < TelcoBob> eh only white peopel care about racism any more, im more minority than you couild believe and i dont give a fuck
17:36 <@Catonic> TelcoBob: please come to birmingham.
17:36 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: everyone is a minority in some way
17:36 < TelcoBob> you whities fuck my people out of our land, made us move to oklahoma, then fucked moms side in ww2 :-p
17:36  * mog thinks only <insert bigot term> care about racism anymore 
17:37 < TelcoBob> Catonic: if its less than a 9 hour drive from raleigh i might hah :-p
17:37 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: you're a minority is the fact that you have infectious groove-itous
17:37 < TelcoBob> hah
17:38 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: just wait till i have the lights done, i wanna mod my hardhard with an led mohawk and just like throw an led scrolly dislay in the front
17:38 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: seriously.. I need to stay away from you cause you're the type of person that I'm always with when I get in the really deep trouble
17:39 < TelcoBob> and im thoinking about just paintin mysel in phosphoresnt paint...though i dont know how health that would be....
17:39 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: psh im a good litytle boy :)
17:39 <@mog> TelcoBob, do a primer of latex paint...
17:39 < TelcoBob> mog: if latex paint ever touched my body alstrowger would have to get a new zipper, hahah
17:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: yeah.. I can get a vat of liquid latex if ya need
17:40 < TelcoBob> is a full coat of latex concidered indesency?
17:40 < TelcoBob> hahah :-p
17:40 < TelcoBob> speaking of which, i gotta piss liek a horse brb
17:41 < TelcoBob> omg so much better
17:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: I think it is, but we can get you some latex fetish ware to go over it so it won't mess up the style
17:42 < TelcoBob> hahah
17:42 <@M0j0-j0j0> wow... see what I mean... I'd normally never cop to that
17:42 < TelcoBob> omg fuck that, just put a sex sheep over my wang
17:43 < TelcoBob> plus i would keep my stash on the sheep vag, theyd never wanna look there
17:43 < TelcoBob> hahah franklin street here i come!
17:43 < TelcoBob> speaking of which, what are you up to forhalloween
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17:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> I friend wants to go check out a new club in Cary... I don't think that's the best idea
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17:45 < TelcoBob> ew cliubs are gay but not the good kinda gay, liekthe omg my dad owns a dealer ship and i go to peace collge gay
17:47 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: yeah, but since I never got blistered at the con I figure I might run across someone who could help me out with that
17:47 < TelcoBob> hah
17:47 < TelcoBob> i hope blistered means get herpes
17:48 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: speaking of which.. maybe we should do an impromptu celebration of art on halloween
17:48 < TelcoBob> hell yea
17:49 < TelcoBob> ill bring the midget strippers
17:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> we got 4 poles
17:49 < TelcoBob> you can get them half price if you buy in bulk at the foxy lady downtown
17:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> but the roof is only 7' tall so the midget thing is good too
17:49 < TelcoBob> hah
17:50 < TelcoBob> hey post somethign about it on nc2600 and ill get everyone  out of irc and there
17:51 < TelcoBob> and make sure al isnt in fucking panama or sometrhing
17:51 <@Catonic> errrt... woah. There's an NC2600?
17:52 <@Catonic> 919 and 704?
17:53 < TelcoBob> all nc
17:53 < TelcoBob> hah
17:53 < TelcoBob> weve got pretty big meetings too, at one point there were liek 40 in raleigh
17:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: let me check with the other guy that is involved...
17:53 < TelcoBob> thats cool
17:55 <@Catonic> I see Raleigh and Charlotte on the map..
17:57 < TelcoBob> accually you can see alot of cities on maps if you look hard enough :-p
17:57 < Catonic_lp> http://www.nc2600.org/meetings.html
17:57 < Catonic_lp> any others?
17:58 < TelcoBob> um, i ran one iin cullowhee for a while while i lived up there, just a few of us up there, but there was asheville...but its dead, wilmington, its gay, and i think a greenville or someghing
17:58 < TelcoBob> but most people just truck in to raleigh on fridays hah
17:59 < Catonic_lp> charlotte?
17:59 < TelcoBob> ive never been to a charlotte meeting, but ive heard ther are getting pretty big
18:01 < TelcoBob> why do you ask Catonic_lp?
18:01 < Catonic_lp> http://se2600.org
18:02 < TelcoBob> wtf theres se2600 in raleigh?
18:02 < TelcoBob> hah
18:03 < TelcoBob> oh
18:03 < TelcoBob> i see
18:03 < TelcoBob> it links to us
18:03 < TelcoBob> haha nevermind
18:03 < TelcoBob> i guess im part of se2600 then :-p
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18:25 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: ping
18:26 < cwire> blah too damn cold
18:27 <@dc0de> sorry I missed PN everyone... just read SkyDog_'s synopsis... and I feel like I missed a great weekend.
18:27 < cwire> it was
18:29 < Catonic_lp> Looks like Missisippi is the only state in the SE area that doesn't have representation.
18:29 < Catonic_lp> either with a site or somethning..
18:29 < Catonic_lp> but I know I met someone from Jackson...
18:29 <@ziplock> the GA 2600 page was last updated a few years ago....
18:29 <@tcstool> I think Wesley McGrew lives in MS
18:30 <@aestetix> So is it ok to say nigga in here now?
18:30 <@aestetix> dc0de: where is SkyDog_'s synopsis?
18:31 < cwire> aestetix: phreaknic main page
18:35 < eryc> aestetix: fucking hypocrite
18:35 <@dc0de> I want a full length fur coat.
18:36 < eryc> to match the full length cock up your ass?
18:36  * Corydon76-dig gets dc0de a St Bernard
18:37 <@aestetix> That's, uh....
18:37 <@aestetix> Some hot looking chair action.
18:37 <@aestetix> eryc: how am I a hypocrite?
18:37 <@dc0de> eryc: no, i just want some small furry animals to die.
18:37 < eryc> <@aestetix> So is it ok to say nigga in here now?
18:38 < eryc> <@aestetix> So is it ok to say nigga in here now?
18:38 < eryc> <@aestetix> So is it ok to say nigga in here now?
18:38 < eryc> <@aestetix> So is it ok to say nigga in here now?
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18:38 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig: I have a dog... :) thanks tho
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18:38 < eryc> word
18:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic_lp: I wonder if that's because educated folk do their best to escape Mississippi
18:39 < Catonic_lp> ohio as well.
18:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: you no answer phone
18:39 <@aestetix> Ahh. That explains why the network was down so much.
18:39 < eryc> you guys are all red states to me
18:39 <@aestetix> That pissed me off a lot, actually.
18:39 <@M0j0-j0j0> red states?
18:40 <@dc0de> eryc: doesn't matter now... I've voted.
18:40 <@aestetix> What was the attendance count at PN this year?
18:40 <@M0j0-j0j0> 244 I think
18:40 < cwire> 247
18:40 < eryc> 250
18:40 <@aestetix> Hmm. Went down, iirc.
18:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> yeah
18:41 <@M0j0-j0j0> said to blame the economy
18:41 < Catonic_lp> aestetix: we only counted you as a half-a-person because you were only there friday.
18:41 < Catonic_lp> blame canada, blame the aliens...
18:41 < cwire> we should only count shadow and scotchick as half too then
18:41 <@aestetix> That's more than I normally get credit for.
18:42 <@timoguin> aestetix: yea, there were 300+ last year, I think.
18:42 <@aestetix> There seemed to be a lot of new kids this year, though.
18:42 < eryc> ya kids turn 15 everyday
18:43 < eryc> zomg hacker con!
18:43 <@aestetix> You know.
18:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> I'm kinda glad it was down a little bit.. I hope next year it's back up, but since this was my first phreaknic I'm glad that the count was low so that I could get to talk to a lot of people
18:43 <@aestetix> There needs to be an age limit at PN.
18:43 <@aestetix> So I don't wind up hitting on a 17 year old :p
18:43 <@M0j0-j0j0> again
18:44 <@aestetix> One of my favorite gotcha moments....
18:44 <@aestetix> My friend was chatting up this girl for over an hour at a party.
18:44 <@aestetix> Then, she slipped in conversation... "when I get my driver's license next year..."
18:44 < cwire> owned
18:44 <@M0j0-j0j0> speaking of which.. we need to put a ban on minors hanging out in the elevator all day and hitting people up for booze
18:45 <@dc0de> M0j0-j0j0: just tell them it's in Al's room.
18:45 <@Corydon76-dig> cwire gets the cookie
18:45 < eryc> big gay al's room
18:45 <@dc0de> they'll stop doing that.
18:45 <@aestetix> M0j0-j0j0: uh, that's what the "water" bottles are for.
18:45 < cwire> hey, I actually got some whiskey from Al's room this year, no strings attached
18:45 <@Corydon76-dig> There were over 350 people at PhreakNIC last year and 247 paid attendees this year
18:45 < cwire> though i had to convince palindrome of htis
18:46 <@dc0de> cwire: of course "no strings... " sure... we believe you....
18:46  * dc0de rolls his eyes.
18:46 < cwire> lol
18:46 <@aestetix> cwire: don't you mean, no condoms attached?
18:46 < cwire> hahaha
18:46 <@dc0de> cwire: remember, just cuz you're sitting on it, that doesn't make you a "top".
18:46 <@M0j0-j0j0> aestetix: to pour water over skanky minors in the elevator who don't understand subtlety yet?
18:46 < cwire> lol
18:47 < cwire> yeah they seemed...plastered some of the time
18:47 <@aestetix> M0j0-j0j0: look at it this way: when they pass out in the public area because they can't handle their liquor, it's sharpie time.
18:47 <@aestetix> And btw. Please tell me someone got sharpied this year.
18:47 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: and you don't mean inserting them!
18:47 <@ziplock> one of them gave me the stink-eye when i got on the elevator and asked her if she was going down
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18:47 <@dc0de> I haven't seen any photos of sharpie-dom yet.
18:48 <@dc0de> ziplock: did she go down on you after that?
18:48 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: actually... depends who passes out :)
18:48 < cwire> i need to still sharpie the fuck out of my friend who went in for the night at FUCKING 10 O'CLOCK
18:48 <@dc0de> cwire: yes, you do.
18:48 <@aestetix> Damn.
18:48 <@timoguin> I passed out at 1:30.  I thought that was super early.
18:48 <@Corydon76-dig> cwire: but we came back out after fucking for 2 hours...
18:48 <@aestetix> I was up until like 9am, and still managed to make my 2:30pm flight
18:48 < cwire> lol
18:49 < cwire> i was up until noon on sunday
18:49 <@aestetix> No caffeine, either.
18:49 < eryc> aestetix: not everyone is a raver kiddie like you
18:49 < cwire> getting up at 8 on saturday
18:49 < cwire> crash time felt like heaven
18:49 <@aestetix> eryc: where is this raver kiddie shit coming from.
18:49 < eryc> oonce oonce oonce
18:49 <@M0j0-j0j0> someone fell asleep during the hap2 movie but nobody would sharpie him
18:50 <@aestetix> M0j0-j0j0: pathetic.
18:50 <@aestetix> Unless there was not a sharpie around. Then it is justified.
18:50 < cwire> wasn't there any sharpie-ing in the movie at least?
18:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> eryc: there was this one time at band camp...
18:50 < eryc> the rule is if you pass our with your shoes on you are open for sharpie
18:50 <@M0j0-j0j0> aestetix: someone had one, but they wouldn't give it up
18:50 < cwire> at LEAST in a common area
18:51 <@dc0de> which is why some people go barefoot.
18:51 <@aestetix> eryc: correct.
18:51 <@aestetix> IIRC, one of the reasons for this is to prevent roomsquatters.
18:51 <@aestetix> IE if you don't have a room, be a fucking man and ask someone to crash on their floor.
18:51 <@dc0de> am I the only one that ensures that he has a sharpie with him at all times at a con?
18:52 <@aestetix> dc0de: I try to.
18:52 <@aestetix> I wasn't at the con that much this year though.
18:52 < eryc> thats just so you can tag the elevator
18:52 < cwire> i do too, in all the pictures you're likely to see of me, i have a sharpie on my lanyard
18:52 <@dc0de> hell, I wasn't there at all.
18:52 < TelcoBob> M0j0-j0j0: sorry bud i was outside putting on my murding clothes
18:52 <@aestetix> I really only went so I could keep up my streak :p
18:52 <@dc0de> but I have a sharpie not 3' from me right now.
18:52 <@droops> just reading some scroll, Catonic i used to live in mississippi, i never found anyone interested in 2600 there, i did find one guy who liked the pla, but that was it
18:52 < TelcoBob> we had a swarm of japense hornets attack one of the horse
18:52 < eryc> is that a sharpie in your pants?
18:53 <@M0j0-j0j0> ouch
18:53 <@aestetix> eryc: is that a tic tac in your pants?
18:53 < eryc> thats my clit
18:53 < cwire> wow
18:53  * dc0de shakes his head.
18:53  * aestetix gives eryc a shovel
18:53 <@aestetix> Although I don't think you can dig any deeper.
18:54 < TelcoBob> heres a shovel, and you dig it fool?
18:54 < eryc> thats what she said
18:54 <@aestetix> Seriously. Some of you kids need to go read the BoFH archives or something.
18:55 <@aestetix> Take some trolling101 lessons
18:55 <@aestetix> Or you can look at #se2600 logs over the last few years. grep for aestetix ;)
18:55 < eryc> whatever you say nigga
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18:56 <@aestetix> What is it with the language lately
18:56 < TelcoBob> its the word of the day!
18:56 < TelcoBob> AHHHHHHHH!
18:56 < cwire> jambi!
18:56 <@aestetix> Someone should topic it.
18:56  * M0j0-j0j0 does a dance
18:57 <@M0j0-j0j0> I stirred shit up
18:57 < TelcoBob> i blame rap music
18:57 <@dc0de> some people seem to feel that using shocking words makes them cool.
18:57 <@aestetix> I have no idea what the appeal of that word could possibly be.
18:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> dc0de: and some people feel that freedom of speak is most seriously insured by using your right
18:58 <@Drag0n> those that don't have a full grasp of the English language must fill the holes with expletives to attempt to make themselves feel important
18:58 <@M0j0-j0j0> speech even
18:58 < TelcoBob> ha!
18:58 <@aestetix> (anyone who has been in here for more than a year is cracking up right now)
18:58 < TelcoBob> Drag0n: what the fuck is you talkin bout shithead :(
18:59 <@dc0de> M0j0-j0j0: I agree in free speech.  however, I try not to offend other people either.
18:59 <@aestetix> Shit, maybe that stuff was 2 years ago.
19:00 <@timoguin> This nigga ain't offended.
19:00 <@rhia> aestetix: it cycles
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19:00 <@aestetix> rhia: that word, or censorship?
19:01 <@Drag0n> if your offense is intended to push the limits of a persons beliefs in order for them to re-evaluate them is one thing, but filth or filth's sake (eryc, ware. not to name names) are only stealing our oxygen
19:01 <@rhia> aestetix:  the attitude
19:01 <@Drag0n> s/or/for
19:01 <@aestetix> I think ware is what you'd get if John Waters and a piece of dog shit had kids.
19:01 <@M0j0-j0j0> dc0de: I don't think at this point in history many people would take it in this context to be offensive
19:01 <@rhia> but, yeah, we do prefer to keep the resemblance to #2600 to a minimum
19:01 <@dc0de> ge rhia
19:02 < TelcoBob> ha!
19:02 <@dc0de> M0j0-j0j0: I find it offensive.
19:02 <@aestetix> rhia: yeah, I was gonna say.
19:03 <@timoguin> Words are words.  They contain whatever meaning you want them to.
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19:03 <@aestetix> Ok, that's enough with the kicks.
19:03 <@aestetix> I couldn't resist that one, though.
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19:03 <@timoguin> aestetix: Shut up.
19:03 <@aestetix> timoguin: collective meaning ring a bell?
19:04 < TelcoBob> i find the label PLA kiddie more offencive than any racial term you could throw at this franco-american jew-cherokee :-p
19:04 <@Drag0n> you...bush relative!!!
19:04 <@aestetix> TelcoBob: is murd0c a PLA kiddie?
19:04 <@M0j0-j0j0> dc0de: there's no way you could have found it offensive in the context I used it in
19:04 <@dc0de> timoguin: words are words, they contain more than simply what I want them to mean. They contain the historical uses of the words in the past as well.
19:04 < TelcoBob> murd0c definatly is cause he bit me last time he sucked me off
19:04 <@timoguin> aestetix: Meaning that words mean what society determines they mean?
19:05 <@dc0de> timoguin: words DO mean what society says they mean.
19:05 <@dc0de> what is a "hacker"?
19:05 <@aestetix> timoguin: more meaning that because a word means something to you doesn't mean you can change other people's notions of its meaning easily.
19:05 < TelcoBob> dc0de: does taht make me a cybert3rrorist? :(
19:05 <@M0j0-j0j0> dc0de: and if we're going to start down that road we need to tread carefully because I find a large volume of the discussion in the channel offensive... but I don't bitch about it because I know how to leave when I want to
19:05 <@timoguin> dc0de: And we still refer to ourselves as hackers.  And a lot of blacks still call each other "nigger."
19:06 <@aestetix> M0j0-j0j0: I haven't even started to be offensive.
19:06 <@dc0de> timoguin: are you black?
19:06 <@rhia> to paraphrase Carlin: ...when used in context, there are no bad words, .... when words are used to appeal to the lowest common denominator, they bring down everyone around them ...
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19:06 <@aestetix> timoguin: how about this? People in this channel get offended by the word nigga, but nobody in #hackcanada does.
19:07 <@Drag0n> oh, fine, now we blame #hackcanada
19:07 <@aestetix> Um.
19:07 <@aestetix> No, it's more that canada didn't have a civil war over slavery like we did.
19:07 <@timoguin> dc0de: If there is an attempt to make the words have less weight and negative meaning, that is a positive thing.
19:07 <@aestetix> And thus their racial tension is totally different.
19:07 <@timoguin> I have gay friends I call fag.
19:08  * Drag0n pokes aestetix in the funny bone
19:08 <@timoguin> And asian friends I call chink.
19:08 <@aestetix> Which boils down to: they have a different context and meaning for the word.
19:08 < TelcoBob> aestetix: the civil war wasnt about slavery here  :-p youll get lynched if you say that hah
19:08 <@dc0de> I would simply ask that we act far more like the intelligent people that we are, instead of street urchins with double-digit IQ's.
19:08 <@rhia> words can bring people together, even in mindless 'wassup, bro' or divide them unnecessarily ....
19:08 <@dc0de> timoguin: that just means you're an asshole.
19:08 <@aestetix> TelcoBob: I'm a northerner.
19:08 <@timoguin> dc0de: No, it doesn't.
19:09 <@timoguin> They've embraced the usage of the words themselves.
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19:09 <@timoguin> And they aren't offended by it.
19:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> oh, maybe THAT means your an asshole
19:09 <@M0j0-j0j0> j/k
19:09 <@rhia> timoguin: just because your friends aren't offended doesn't mean dc0de has no right to be offended
19:09 <@aestetix> timoguin: would you call your asian friend a chink in front of his parents?
19:09 < TelcoBob> aestetix: i was serious, we were taugght in schools here it was about states rights and left at that hah
19:09 <@dc0de> timoguin: so, that means it's OK for everyone of the same social grouping, sexual orientation, or race?
19:10 <@dc0de> that would be like me calling rhia a "bitch", just because one female friend I have has declared that she is a bitch.
19:10 < TelcoBob> fuck words man, i dont care how people see me or what they call me...its just sillyness
19:10 <@dc0de> and no, rhia, I don't think you're a bitch
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19:11 <@aestetix> TelcoBob: among other things. It's a much deeper problem than slavery, but the word "nigga" stems from the slavery aspect.
19:11 <@timoguin> aestetix: No, probably not.
19:11 <@dc0de> timoguin: if you think that your words are just words, then why are there states with "Fighting Words" statutes?
19:11 < TelcoBob> aestetix: shouldnt you kick yourself?
19:11 <@rhia> esp online, written words portray who you are ... i prefer to not be seen as a 13 yr old with no social skills and an improbably tiny vocabulary
19:11 <@aestetix> TelcoBob: I used the word in proper context :)
19:11 < TelcoBob> psh
19:11  * dc0de passes rhia a drink of her choice
19:11 < TelcoBob> dc0de: because people get worked up over stupid shit
19:12 <@aestetix> rhia: like the written words my fucking CEO uses when he writes emails?
19:12 <@M0j0-j0j0> well, I'm not the best and I'm not the brightest, but I'd be happy to have an IQ pissing contest with anyone... I started all this shit by refering to TcB as my nigga... which is the way he and I are tight..  I loves me some TcB.. he's my slice.. I mean it in the best of all possible ways
19:12 <@rhia> dc0de: of course i'm not a bitch ... that's a dog ... i'm a Bitch(capitalized) - a hard earned title <g>
19:12 < AstralSin> rhia: WTFLOL
19:12 <@timoguin> dc0de: I guess what I'm trying to say is that you are offended by certain words because others are offended by them...
19:12  * aestetix should not be getting turned on
19:12 <@timoguin> And if that certain group gets to where they are no longer offended, then what does it matter?
19:13 <@dc0de> rhia: actually, I see you as an intelligent woman, who isn't afraid to stand up for what you believe in.  And for that, I am proud to know you.
19:13 <@aestetix> timoguin: you're familiar with the superego, I assume?
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19:13 <@M0j0-j0j0> I can speak and write proper English when I choose.. but this is IRC and not English Grammer 101... so step off
19:13 <@rhia> dc0de: appreciated .... (even if i don't like McCain/Palin <G>)
19:13 <@dc0de> timoguin: no, I'm offended by those words, because they've been used for far longer than you've been alive as offensive words.
19:13  * rhia ducks
19:13 <@dc0de> rhia: we can agree to disagree.
19:14 <@dc0de> rhia: we don't have to have an "iq pissing contest"...
19:14 < TelcoBob> oh god i wish i could, i mean ive got my literary awards and have been published...but my grammar is horrible
19:14 <@dc0de> whatever that is.
19:14 < TelcoBob> thats what editors are for :-p
19:14 < cwire> yeah editors are gold
19:14 <@timoguin> dc0de: And before that they were unoffensive words.
19:14 <@timoguin> A lot of them at least.
19:14 <@dc0de> like?
19:14 < TelcoBob> hell yea, i figure if kerouac can sell with only 3 punctuation marks so can i hah
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19:15 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: eh, this cycles thru quite often ... the use of the words isn't nearly as disagreeable as the frequency for little reason
19:15 <@timoguin> Like nigger.  From latin for black.
19:15 <@aestetix> A salesman knocks on the door. A little girl opens up. He says "Is your mommy home?" She says "No, she ain't." The salesman is taken aback and says "Where is your grammar?" "Upstairs takin' a bath"
19:15 <@timoguin> haha
19:15 < cwire> lol TelcoBob
19:15 <@aestetix> timoguin: right...
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19:16 <@M0j0-j0j0> so... now that I've caused all this trouble... TcB.. you gunna answer yer phone?
19:16 < TelcoBob> yea i had to get out of writing though, it frustrated me so much, i have a hard time getting everything out i wanted out and im such a perfectionist id always miss my deadlines
19:16 <@timoguin> I'm not really trying to make a super-philosophical point.
19:16 <@timoguin> Most the time I just don't give a shit.
19:16 <@aestetix> timoguin: yes, but you're pulling out a very entrenched topic.
19:16 <@timoguin> Words don't offend me.  Any of them.
19:17 <@aestetix> That's because they don't carry any baggage yet.
19:17 < cwire> I'm not a fan of deadlines, but when the editor was bitching at me for a month it seemed to work :-P
19:17 <@aestetix> Let me put it this way.
19:17 <@aestetix> You say we attach our own meanings to words.
19:17 <@aestetix> That attachment happens regardless of how we want it to happen.
19:17 <@aestetix> Which means, in turn, we'll have experiences, and certain words trigger memories of those experiences.
19:17 <@aestetix> And some of those memories are less than pleasant.
19:18  * timoguin nods
19:18 <@aestetix> This might already happen with the name of an ex gf.
19:18 <@dc0de> If this were an xbox live channel, I would expect to see 13 yr old vocabulary and grammar, however, last I checked, this is where the smarter people gathered.
19:18 <@aestetix> dc0de: and yet I'm still here. Wierd ain't it?
19:19 <@dc0de> aestetix: you've grown up...
19:19  * aestetix laughs
19:19 <@dc0de> and we all had a part in that.
19:19 <@dc0de> and you now have an extended family that you didn't expect.
19:20 <@aestetix> timoguin: does the point make sense?
19:20 <@rhia> it's not so much a lot of the words, either .... but the whole "nigga" thing is Soooo 5 years ago ....
19:20 <@dc0de> and the word isn't from spanish, it's from the ghetto.
19:20 <@timoguin> aestetix: Of course.
19:20 <@aestetix> Here's another good example of the reverse happening: terrorism.
19:20 <@rhia> i break my toe, i'll holler Fuck .... but i don't enter channel with "wassup, muthafuckers!"
19:21 <@aestetix> That word has gone two ways: completely void of meaning, and so full of meaning a person can't utter it without their voice cracking.
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19:22 <@dc0de> well, I have to admit I'm fond of using the word "fucktard" in my vocabulary... but only to describe the dumbest of smart people.
19:22 <@aestetix> you mean johnnyx?
19:23 <@timoguin> I'm fond of lots of vulgar words, and it has nothing to do with a lack of vocabulary or intelligence.
19:23 <@dc0de> does anyone have a high resolution "hacker inside" logo that I can use to carve into a pumpkin?
19:23 < cwire> even using vulgar words, while possibly offensive, isn't on par with derogatory racist speech
19:24 <@dc0de> cwire: I think you nailed it for me...
19:24 <@dc0de> vulgar is one thing, but racist, or even remotely racist is "off-limits" in my book
19:24 <@timoguin> cwire: True. It's not offensive to everyone though, and I think that should be taken into perspective.
19:24 <@dc0de> as is anything that defames women.
19:25 <@dc0de> There are some words that simply need to be removed. and I feel that "nigga" is one of them.
19:25 <@timoguin> And a lot of offensive words and there associations are based on stereotypes.
19:25 <@timoguin> *their
19:26 <@dc0de> as is "chink", "kike", or any other word that has been used to negatively describe and racially profile people
19:26 <@timoguin> Dago!
19:26 <@dc0de> timoguin: exactly.
19:27 <@jb7od> it's funny tho you can put "bitch" at the end of all of them and get a whole new gender swerve in there.
19:27 < cwire> i don't think its offensiveness to the whole population really has any bearing, there will always be a difference between say "motherfucker" and "nigga" across the board
19:27 <@dc0de> does anyone have a high resolution "hacker inside" logo that I can use to carve into a pumpkin?
19:27 <@dc0de> does anyone have a high resolution "hacker inside" logo that I can use to carve into a pumpkin?
19:27 <@dc0de> does anyone have a high resolution "hacker inside" logo that I can use to carve into a pumpkin?
19:27 < cwire> i sent one earlier, that wasn't high res enough?
19:27 <@dc0de> cwire: where?
19:27 <@dc0de> I missed it.
19:28 < cwire> http://phreaknic.info/pn12/images/logo2.png
19:28  * dc0de is drinking.
19:28 <@dc0de> let me get it into gimp
19:29 <@timoguin> I'm gonna go home and make baklava.
19:29 < cwire> ooh
19:30 < cwire> nomnom
19:32 <@aestetix> Hmm.
19:32 <@aestetix> Apache question.
19:32 <@aestetix> Let's say I have two ways to set up a webpage.
19:33 <@aestetix> One of them calls a really big css file.
19:33 <@dc0de> cwire: that's gonna work
19:33 <@dc0de> thanks
19:33 <@aestetix> The other calls two css files, half the size of the big one.
19:33 < cwire> sweet
19:33 < cwire> post pics when you carve it
19:33 <@aestetix> Which setup causes a heavier server load under stress?
19:33 <@dc0de> will do.
19:34 < cwire> i'm not entirely sure, there would be twice as much file access, no?
19:34 <@timoguin> I don't know either.
19:34 <@dc0de> aestetix: the initial css should be loaded when first called, and stay in memory... right?
19:34 <@aestetix> Sure.
19:35 <@aestetix> But that's on the client side.
19:35 <@dc0de> find a way to test that...
19:35 <@aestetix> Let's say the server gets a million requests per second.
19:35 <@dc0de> once in memory it should matter.
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19:37 <@dc0de> *shouldn't matter...
19:42 <@dc0de> well, I'm out... gotta get some work done.
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19:47 <@ziplock> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/israeli-hacker.html
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19:52 <@tcstool> that's nice
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19:55 <@tcstool> ziplock:  Friend of yours huh?
19:56 < cwire> anyone seen the crayola light brush?  i'm curious to know how the board works
19:56 <@brimstone> magic tips
19:57 < cwire> http://www.crayola.com/products/splash/COLOR_WONDER/magic_light_brush/media/banner_brush.jpg even has a nice paint look
19:58 < cwire> i just saw a commercial for it
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20:02 < cwire> HA, my lame friend that fell asleep at 10 at the con caught the con flu, serves him right
20:30 <@aestetix> well
20:31 <@aestetix> I have just established that you can only update twitter 125 times an hour
20:31 <@aestetix> however, I have also established that they don't monitor different accounts from the same IP
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20:40 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: every 30 seconds for an hour DOES seem kind of extreme
20:43 < ware> poll: hancock or journy to the center of the earth
20:43 < ware> for a movie to watch*
20:44 < ware> ive not seen either
20:45 <@brimstone> hancock
20:49 < ware> werd.
20:49  * ware hans brimstone a cock
21:00 < Peaches84> hello to all
21:02 < Peaches84> Hello ware
21:02 < Peaches84> why are you giving out cock
21:03 < ware>  just Han's cock
21:03 < Peaches84> oh
21:06 <@ziplock> ping SkyDog
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21:15 < Peaches84> hey juice
21:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Is Han's cock still frozen in carbonite?
21:16 < Peaches84> lol
21:18 < ware> yes
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21:27 <@Dagmar> @!#$@!$
21:27 <@Dagmar> *still* coughing and sneezing
21:30 < Peaches84> aww
21:30 < Peaches84> yeah i am coughing here also
21:30 < Peaches84> and i am conjested  ware come fix me a hot totty
21:31 < ware> mmm hot whiskey totty ftw
21:32 < ware> timoguin made those for me when i got a cold last time
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21:56 < Peaches84> yeah good stuff
21:57 <@juice> hi
22:02 <@juice> http://www.maninthedark.com/
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22:54 < Peaches84> hey mojo
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22:55 < Peaches84> wow it got quiet
22:56 < m0j0-j0j1> hey hey
22:56 < Peaches84> whats going on
22:56 < C-P> drinking
22:58 < m0j0-j0j1> Peaches84: I'm going to go make some chili
22:58 < Peaches84> sounds good
22:58 < Peaches84> see you in a few i hope
22:58 < Peaches84> your the only one talking to me
22:59 < m0j0-j0j1> I think everyone else is asleep
22:59 < m0j0-j0j1> or at a party or something
23:00 < m0j0-j0j1> wifi in the kitchen
23:00 < m0j0-j0j1> this is why I got the model without the webcam
23:00 < Peaches84> yeah
23:00 < Peaches84> i am hopeing to get a laptop soon
23:01 < ware> bredan frasier ftl
23:01 < ware> i knew journy to the center of the earth would suck
23:01 < Peaches84> he is hot ware is that someone you are interested in i know people
23:02 < ware> lol
23:02 < Peaches84> you know tell a graph tell a queen tell a queer we have connections
23:03 < ware> rofl
23:04 < ware> negative
23:05 < Peaches84> i got angalina jole also
23:06 < m0j0-j0j1> she's a real hacker.. I saw it in a movie
23:06 < ware> Peaches84: yeah hook that up
23:08 < m0j0-j0j1> she'd break you
23:08 < Peaches84> yeah tell me about it i think she may be to wild for ya
23:10 < Peaches84> i am eating my Big bear vitamins
23:10 < m0j0-j0j1> well, I guess I'm out
23:10 < Peaches84> yay i'm a big kid now
23:10 < Peaches84> lol
23:10 < m0j0-j0j1> woof
23:11 < Peaches84> aww
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23:11 < Peaches84> bye
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23:29 < Catonic_lp> ..
23:53 <@Catonic> ..
23:53 <@SkyDog_> I fucked up my pinkie. SHould not have got it caught between the upper arm and the 2x4.
23:53 <@Catonic> sup yallz
23:53 <@SkyDog_> Yo.
23:54 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: I'll trade fucked up pinkie for a bruised leg.
23:55 <@SkyDog_> Pass.
23:55 <@SkyDog_> What did you do to your leg?
23:56 <@Catonic> Did I not show you?
23:56 < Peaches84> hey guys
23:56 <@Catonic> sup peachy?
23:56 <@SkyDog_> Catonic: Nope.
23:56 <@SkyDog_> heya peaches.
23:57 <@Catonic> oh hell... I'll put some pants on and take a picture..
23:57 <@Catonic> I've got a spot about 2.5" diameter on the right leg that's kinda pale, and a spot about 6" x 8" that's bruised around it
23:58 <@coil> awww
23:58 <@Catonic> I think I did it dealing with "FuckOff" fucktard.
23:59 <@SkyDog_> Ouch! Sorry man!
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