--- Log opened Sun Oct 05 00:00:34 2008 --- Day changed Sun Oct 05 2008 00:00 -!- Cynefrid [n=whee@71-10-173-39.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 00:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Cynefrid] by ChanServ 00:11 <@Dagmar> Weird. It never let me put more than three down. 00:11 <@Dagmar> Sure I could take over people's capital planets 00:11 <@Dagmar> I did that a few times to put down the Ape Empire because they kept bothering me 00:12 -!- someninjamaster [n=jamesric@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:14 -!- someninjamaster [n=jamesric@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:16 <@Dagmar> I <3 the megaton bombs 00:19 <@Dagmar> w00t 00:19 <@Dagmar> http://vimeo.com/1700732 00:31 -!- someninjamaster [n=jamesric@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:36 -!- someninjamaster [n=jamesric@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:42 < eryc> http://vimeo.com/1582964 00:54 <@Catonic> eryc: a life, you don't have it. 01:02 < eryc> you and me both 01:13 -!- someninjamaster [n=jamesric@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:14 -!- someninjamaster [n=jamesric@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:17 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@168.28.136.17] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 02:12 -!- Hak5Darren [n=Hak5Darr@ip68-110-152-240.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:21 -!- someninjamaster [n=jamesric@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:23 <@NotLarry> Well damn 02:34 <@JimShoe> everything ok? 02:42 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-98-233-29-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:44 -!- Hak5Darren [n=Hak5Darr@ip68-110-152-240.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #se2600 03:35 -!- Hak5Darren [n=Hak5Darr@ip68-110-152-240.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:33 -!- someninjamaster [n=jamesric@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:49 < someninjamaster> hopefully this fixes everything 04:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 07:19 <@brimstone> it will 08:59 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:29 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-98-233-29-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 10:07 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-98-233-29-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["who's life in rain?"] 11:23 <@Catonic> holy cow. The Littles is on nbroadcast TV here. 11:33 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 11:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 11:34 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Client Quit] 11:46 -!- sdodson_ [n=sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has joined #se2600 11:46 < sdodson_> http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-10-05.gif catonic maybe posted that already 11:47 <@brimstone> sweet, irongeek made hackaday http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/ 12:15 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o strages] by ChanServ 12:19 -!- remofor2 [n=remoford@68.52.72.214] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:26 -!- Hak5Darren [n=Hak5Darr@ip68-110-152-240.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #se2600 12:28 -!- Feltenix_ [n=Tanstaaf@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 12:28 -!- Feltenix [n=Tanstaaf@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:28 -!- Feltenix_ is now known as Feltenix 12:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 12:36 < jb7od> Good Morning even though it's really not anymore #se2600!! 12:40 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZsO7dZ__iw 12:41 -!- Cinotac [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 12:42 -!- Catonic_lp [n=cinotac@60-24.9-67.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:25 < jb7od> our noble admin still hasn't dealt with our Sev 2. The box is out of room. SQL backups quit running. He's gonna get some hot grits on his chest for breakfast. Left msg 2x. you'd think some ppl would give a shit about their job. He doesn't even have to go in, neither do I but if I go and move shit... well I don't want him to know I can. 13:26 < jb7od> it's um... out-of-scope. isn't that a workplace irony? I can get in more trouble for fixing critical shit because of my role. 13:27 < jb7od> role. 13:28 < jb7od> man I think the whole model ought to be disbanded. It's just as lame as engineer/producer in music industry. designed for maximum dissatisfaction and worst possible execution 13:29 < jb7od> i'm ocd enough to have it really really bother me at a personal and professional level to just leave it like that. It's like standing in front of a broken egg on the floor and pointing at it. 13:30 < jb7od> He's already "fixed" this and closed it on Friday. 13:30 < jb7od> So maybe now that I'm telling him what's really wrong, it will be alright. 13:31 -!- Corydon76-dig [i=seven@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:31 < jb7od> I don't think it matters what you're certified in if you have no work ethic. 13:31 < jb7od> try getting that metric past hr. 13:33 < jb7od> i look like total shit on paper. i end up floating up to the ceiling in every job I have, but at half the rate. 13:37 < Cinotac> ouch 13:37 -!- Cinotac is now known as Catonic_lp 14:12 -!- Corydon76-dig [i=seven@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has joined #se2600 14:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-dig] by ChanServ 14:27 -!- dasunt [n=dasunt@unaffiliated/dasunt] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:47 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has joined #se2600 14:48 < GodFix[HC]> test 14:48 < GodFix[HC]> sweet, learning irssi w/o docs is fun 14:50 < Catonic_lp> hehe 14:51 < GodFix[HC]> this is better than chatzilla too 14:53 < GodFix[HC]> TOUCHDOWN TITANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 14:57 -!- GodFix[HC] [n=godfix@75.149.100.253] has left #se2600 [] 15:07 <@Evilpig> anyone alive in here right now? 15:08 < Catonic_lp> nope 15:08 <@Evilpig> okay so I have four hotswap bays in this server. they aren't labeled. I have two dead drives. one was hotspare one is inthe array. I can't risk just pulling a random drive to figure out which is which. IF I pull all four drives and insert a new drive it shouldn't fuck the array on those four right? 15:08 <@Evilpig> then I should be able to label the bays 15:09 < Catonic_lp> how's the array setup? IDE? SCSI? 15:09 <@Evilpig> scsi 15:09 < Catonic_lp> AMI/LSI? Adaptec? 15:09 <@Evilpig> adaptec 15:09 < Catonic_lp> shit 15:09 < Catonic_lp> the adaptec raid controller doesn't do anything reasonable. 15:10 <@Evilpig> I have a good idea what the labeling is. there are no lights on the front to try and blink either 15:10 < Catonic_lp> you should be able to drop to BIOS, and pull the configuration 15:10 < Catonic_lp> then pull the drives and read the backplane jumpers 15:10 <@Evilpig> 0,3 are the good drives. 1,2 are the bad drives 15:10 < Catonic_lp> or you can pull the drives one at a time and see which ones don't show up in the BIOS when it tries to boot 15:11 < Catonic_lp> I had to fight with my boss over this one... 15:11 <@Feltenix> anyone here use ndiswrapper? 15:11 < Catonic_lp> he had a machine off to the side because "it had a bad RAID array" 15:11 < Catonic_lp> yeah.. two dead drives, adaptec. 15:11 <@Evilpig> not zero channel so booting the scsi card without all the drives attached isn't gonna happen 15:11 <@Evilpig> it will detect one more dead drive and mark the array bad 15:11 < Catonic_lp> take out the drives, put in six new, larger drives, define the array... and it was happy. 15:12 < Catonic_lp> yeah, you want to find out which ones are the bad ones... moreover, which ones are what ids 15:12 < Catonic_lp> the array is already bad, no? 15:12 <@Evilpig> no 15:12 <@Evilpig> array is good 15:12 <@Evilpig> degraded but good 15:12 < Catonic_lp> then back it up right now, and replace the drive and rebuild the array 15:12 < Catonic_lp> but moreover, BACK IT UP 15:12 <@Evilpig> don't know what drive to replace 15:13 <@Evilpig> I have backups. but I would have to reinstall the OS. trying to figure out a way to determine which drives are what ids 15:13 < Catonic_lp> it's too damn easy to fuck up in that BIOS and it will do destructive things without warning you. 15:13 < Catonic_lp> Evilpig: I've told you all you need to know. 15:13 <@Evilpig> pretty sure I have done this in the past and if I have pulled all the drives it won't touch the array 15:16 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:24 <@Evilpig> drives labeled. replaced one of the bad two. putting all the drives back in now 15:25 <@Evilpig> raid intact. rebuilding 15:25 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 15:27 < Catonic_lp> I love the internet. 15:27 < Catonic_lp> I know more about my landlord than they probably want me to know. 15:29 <@coil> fuck, i left the kitten in the fridge 15:31 -!- coil was kicked from #SE2600 by Dagmar [Fix it now.] 15:31 <@Evilpig> I was just wondering if that was supposed to be a cold pussy joke 15:31 < Catonic_lp> Dagmar: I don't get it. 15:31 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #SE2600 15:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil] by ChanServ 15:31 <@coil> fix what 15:32 <@Dagmar> You'd better not be leaving kittens in fridges. 15:32 -!- Dagmar was kicked from #SE2600 by coil [kick yourself] 15:32 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #SE2600 15:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 15:32 <@Evilpig> inc kick / ban fight 15:35 <@Dagmar> No, for kittens in the fridge he can get himself on the top of the "kick-in-the-nuts" list at PN 15:35 <@Dagmar> Troof 15:35 <@Dagmar> Dems the rules. Don't abuse cats or cat people will come abd hurt you 15:35 < Catonic_lp> Dagmar: so we strap him to a chair, and point the drunken ware at him 15:36 < Catonic_lp> my downstairs neighbor is a cat person. 15:36 < Catonic_lp> she's got two and adopted a third that was a stray 15:37 <@coil> no im just kidding, i would never put it in the fridge, it's actually in the microwave 15:40 <@coil> jk for real dawg i would never hurt an animal 15:41 <@NotLarry> notwife loaded the dryer one night before going to bed and started it up and then after cussing about me putting my shoes in the dryer decided she wasn't going to put up with the banging and stopped the dryer to get my shoes out... 15:45 <@Evilpig> Dementia: http://carnivore.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/41/4172f9e5dc32b5505422247fe5ede1cb0632cdf7.jpg 15:45 <@coil> NotLarry, then what happened 15:46 <@Evilpig> okay both bad drives replaced. array is rebuilding and the other is marked as a hotspare. I am gonna head home 15:57 -!- dasunt [n=dasunt@209-169-192-135.mn.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #se2600 15:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dasunt] by ChanServ 16:00 <@brimstone> what's the IN part of the zone line in bind? 16:00 <@brimstone> what's the IN part mean? 16:00 < Catonic_lp> INternet? 16:00 <+MxZBot> internet is slang for porn. 16:01 <@brimstone> INternal? 16:01 <@brimstone> INbound? 16:01 < Catonic_lp> no, because the suffixes are A, CNAME, etc. 16:01 < Catonic_lp> PTR, etc. 16:02 <@NotLarry> coil: Then my cat ran out of the dryer 16:02 <@brimstone> then why do some work without IN? 16:04 <@Dagmar> ffs 16:05 <@Evilpig> why can't copier companies write useful manuals? or have their shit give back an error other than "File storage error" 16:06 <@Dagmar> brimstone: You've not figured out yet that under certain circumatances missing fields will take on values from the fields *above8? 16:06 * dasunt sets things on fire. 16:07 < Catonic_lp> brimstone: just emailed Paul Vixie, will let you know if I get a response. 16:08 <@brimstone> who's Paul Vixie? 16:09 <@Dagmar> He invented the internets 16:10 < Catonic_lp> Paul kinda wrote BIND. 16:11 < Catonic_lp> though from the pictures, he invented the monobrow as well 16:12 < Catonic_lp> and to bring it full circle... 16:13 < Catonic_lp> http://www.circleid.com/posts/87143_dns_not_a_guessing_game/ 16:13 < Catonic_lp> some of you might recognize a name or three in that articule 16:21 -!- coil_ [i=mist3r@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 16:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil_] by ChanServ 16:52 -!- BlueCopy [n=BlueCop@69.180.234.18] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:04 < Catonic_lp> brimstone: INternet 17:05 < Catonic_lp> INternet 17:05 < Catonic_lp> there were others 17:05 < Catonic_lp> CHaos for example 17:20 < Catonic_lp> http://www.shop.jabra.com/jabra/Shop?dsp=30100&iid=13202&itemskuid=13202&pcr=1:150#tabs 17:20 < Catonic_lp> ^ radio phun 17:23 < Catonic_lp> http://www.vxicorp.com/storefront/pc-285-22-blueparrott-roadwarrior-b250.aspx 17:34 < jb7od> jbnet quotd: 17:34 < jb7od> i need to go with the dog 17:34 < jb7od> [jb7od] kk 17:34 < jb7od> [jb7od] i just want to know: do germans thing Sarah Palin is hot? 17:34 < jb7od> [jb7od] lol 17:34 < jb7od> i've heard she was possessed 17:34 < jb7od> lolol 17:36 < jb7od> There you have it, folks. 17:36 < jb7od> althogh the dog thing is a classic too- 17:48 < nated0g_AG> evening all 17:49 < jb7od> evening 17:50 < jb7od> whois /all 17:50 < jb7od> whois not able to type 17:51 < jb7od> wow 17:52 < jb7od> aye mates, i'm reduced to beer for this pay period. 17:54 < nated0g_AG> im reduced to buying gas and eating ramen 17:57 * jb7od is listening to [Black Flag - Scream] at 3:03/6:46 (44 kHz, 584 kbps, stereo) 17:57 < jb7od> I play that for the boy when he throws tantrums and he'll go into singing along. Being two is rough. 17:57 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=whee@71-10-173-39.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:58 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=whee@71-10-173-39.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:58 < jb7od> I imagine it will wear off, but right now it's in heavy rotation 18:01 < jb7od> nated0g_AG: I hear ya- I traded food for alcohol some time ago. 18:01 < nated0g_AG> thankfully the walmart by me has it for 320 a gallon 18:04 -!- BlueCopy [n=BlueCop@69.180.234.18] has joined #se2600 18:09 < jb7od> that's better than Sam's out here... by about 40 cents.. D: 18:13 -!- Someninjaiphone [n=Someninj@216.215.209.246.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 18:17 < sdodson_> Catonic_lp: Vixie wrote back? 18:22 -!- Someninjaiphone [n=Someninj@216.215.209.246.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 18:22 -!- Someninjaiphone [n=Someninj@216.215.209.246.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 18:46 <@Catonic> sdodson_ 18:46 <@Catonic> : yes 18:47 < sdodson_> Catonic: what's new? 18:47 <@Catonic> Not much 18:47 <@Catonic> chasing tail, working on servers 18:53 < sdodson_> Catonic: which is easier? 18:56 <@Catonic> depends on the context 18:57 <@Catonic> both are gratifying for different reasons 18:58 < sdodson_> So. Which sounds like the best option. 19:00 < sdodson_> a) 1300sqft detached home, 1 car garage, 3 bed 2 bath. Built in 1995. b) 3 Bedroom 1400sqft town house, 2 floor, 2.5bath, has a back porch. c) 1650sqft 3 bed 2.5 bath town house, 3 floors, no back porch but has a large clubhouse and community saltwater pool 19:00 < sdodson_> All roughly the same price, the house about 10k more than the two townhomes 19:01 <@rhia> depends on what you want .... 19:01 < sdodson_> The two town homes are built in 2001 and 2008 respectively 19:01 <@rhia> i'd prefer the garage and no neighbors sharing walls 19:01 < sdodson_> rhia: i know, I think so too but being that it's 10k more and the roof is 13 years old, am i buying a time bomb? 19:02 <@Evilpig> saltwater pool? 19:02 < sdodson_> Evilpig: Ya, no chlorine. 19:02 <@rhia> see if you can get a new roof or the cost of replacement in the deal .... 19:03 < sdodson_> How much is a new roof? 19:03 <@rhia> if you don't need a workshop (which the garage can be used for) and don't mind common walls, ask the realtor which condo is in a faster improving area 19:04 <@rhia> no fancy reverse gables or such, 5 or 6 k would get you a Really good one 19:05 -!- Hak5Darren_ [n=Hak5Darr@ip68-110-152-240.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #se2600 19:05 < sdodson_> c is definitely in the better area, it's in some large development of like 1200 homes and 1100 townhomes 19:05 <@rhia> easy enough, call a local roofing co, ask for rough estimate on ... what, 1300 sq ft ranch? 19:05 < sdodson_> yerp, ranch, single floor 19:06 <@rhia> then c might be the better option, ... can you build a back patio/deck for a grill area later? 19:07 < sdodson_> No. 19:07 <@rhia> but, just because the community is large doesn't mean the value per sq ft is increasing or better than b. ask your realtor 19:08 < sdodson_> She works for the company that's selling the ones in the large community though she doesn't directly represent them, not 100% cool with that. 19:08 <@rhia> hm, that'd be a deal breaker for me ... we don't have the option of a grill on our apt patio, didn't realize how much we used ours before 19:08 < sdodson_> The three floor ones are cool, cause master is on the top floor, two bedrooms on the mid floor with washer/dryer. So good if you want to rent out those two rooms to someone. 19:08 <@rhia> eh, i'd work with a buyer's realtor, they work for you, get paid by the seller 19:09 <@rhia> only if you can rent out, some places strictly forbid it 19:09 < sdodson_> She says that's the case even with these, but I'm concerned. 19:09 < sdodson_> Ya, I'd need to check on covenants. 19:14 < sdodson_> http://flickr.com/photos/sdodson/ photos of the place if you're bored 19:16 <@rhia> take it that's A - not bad, kitchen in good shape? 19:16 < sdodson_> Ya, it's nice. 19:16 < sdodson_> Dated, white appliances, etc. 19:16 <@rhia> standard builder issue 19:17 < sdodson_> It's 13 years old too so black appliances weren't all the rage. 19:17 <@rhia> other question is how much you like to do yard work 19:17 < sdodson_> I figure it'd be a good thing 19:17 < sdodson_> Give me something to do. 19:17 < sdodson_> It's only .19 Acre 19:18 <@rhia> stainless - costs a little more, people assume it's a lot more 19:18 <@rhia> eh, we'd opt for the house, but, we're old and anti-social ;) 19:18 <@rhia> i need a lawn to yell at kids to keep off of 19:19 <@rhia> wow, that was mangled 19:20 < sdodson_> Each one of the places has a downside :( 19:20 <@Catonic> meh 19:20 <@Catonic> the home is probably the best bet 19:20 <@Catonic> it gives you a place for hobbies 19:21 -!- Hak5Darren [n=Hak5Darr@ip68-110-152-240.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 111 (Connection refused)] 19:21 < sdodson_> A) old and on the virge of needing major replacements (Heat/air have been replaced already) worst situation for roommates. 19:21 < sdodson_> B) no pool? C) no yard, no where to put my bike, no garage 19:21 <@rhia> not old, built pre 70's is getting old - wiring, plumbing, foundation issues start appearing 19:22 <@rhia> house also allows for additional building up, out, or a separate workshop, whatever 19:22 <@rhia> condos, not so much 19:23 <@rhia> the roof could be a 30 yr... more likely a 15 or 20, but won't know unless you ask .... the inspector can give you a good idea 19:23 <@rhia> whatever, even brand new, pay an inspector before signing 19:23 < sdodson_> Right, that's all factored into the costs already, $300 for an inspection 19:24 < sdodson_> Even on the brand new town homes. 19:24 <@rhia> '95 should have good copper wiring, and an expandable breaker box, lots of '60's models and older still have aluminum and fuses 19:25 <@rhia> so, 95 isn't really all _that_ old 19:25 < sdodson_> It's got masonite siding which is meh. 19:25 < sdodson_> some nails popping out already which would need to be tended to 19:26 <@rhia> yeah, condo's usually have some form of onsite maintenance to help handle some things, (find out first) houses, well, you're on your own 19:30 <@rhia> they like to keep the exteriors looking good, etc ... could be part of your hoa fees 19:36 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 19:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 19:46 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 19:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 20:08 <@Catonic> zomg NO! 20:08 <@Catonic> oh, they sensored it 20:08 <@Catonic> stewie and brian just went office space on a record 20:10 <@Shadow404> so i got a gun today 20:10 <@Shadow404> .40 cal glock model 23 20:12 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 20:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 20:12 <@Shadow404> got 500 round ammo box for $105 bucks, it was a 165 grain reload 20:12 <@Shadow404> 50 hyrdo shock rounds for $24 and a holster for concealed wear 20:13 -!- Someninjaiphone [n=Someninj@216.215.209.246.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 20:14 <@Catonic> Shadow404: you got scotchick shooting yet? 20:15 <@Catonic> oh shit 20:15 <@Catonic> they did it 20:17 -!- DigitalIrony [n=eric@nat/digium/x-b5cb6509b06f40d5] has joined #se2600 20:19 <@Catonic> Shadow404: im playing with antennas 20:20 <@ShadowHntr> catonic: plural is antennae 20:20 <@ShadowHntr> :) 20:21 <@ShadowHntr> anything i can help with? 20:22 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: do you really think she needs to carry that around ware? we don't want to have to explain why she needed to shoot him 20:22 < cerkit> My home network requires more innovation than my work network. 20:23 <@Catonic> ShadowHntr: doubt it 20:23 < cerkit> This is becoming scary. 20:23 <@Catonic> unless you have a BSEE in your back pocket 20:23 < cerkit> I just looked a $1700 "expansion" project for my home NAS. 20:23 <@Catonic> last person I asked questions to about antennas died suddenly. 20:23 <@Catonic> LB Cebik 20:23 < cerkit> at a* 20:23 <@ShadowHntr> catonic: no, but i know a little about antennae in the ham radio context. 20:23 <@Catonic> I wish I could have asked him more questions 20:23 <@ShadowHntr> cerkit: yikes. 20:23 < cerkit> I need more space. 20:24 < cerkit> And a better router at home. 20:24 <@ShadowHntr> cerkit: i'm gonna research to find out if i can set up a simple fibre channel SAN on the cheap to learn the concepts. 20:24 <@Catonic> cerkit: how are you doing it? firewire? sas? sata? 20:24 <@ShadowHntr> somebody just gave me two 64-bit fibre channel HBAs for my pSeries 610 20:24 < cerkit> right now, its a unix machine on a 100 card, with firewire usb drives. 20:24 <@ShadowHntr> but this will probably not be done soon. 20:24 <@ShadowHntr> yikes. 20:25 <@Catonic> cerkit: frame, what? 20:25 <@Catonic> like scsi raid? 20:25 < cerkit> no raid 20:25 < cerkit> raid would be ridiculously expensive 20:25 < cerkit> at this point 20:25 <@Catonic> geeks.com... 20:25 <@Catonic> 500gb for $50 20:25 < cerkit> i have 11 TB 20:26 < cerkit> the $1700 "expansion" i'm doing, would add a 2nd nas server, with another 3.2 tb. 20:26 < cerkit> and a router with vpn support. 20:26 < cerkit> mind you 20:26 < cerkit> this is for my fucking home setup 20:28 <@Catonic> awesome 20:28 <@Catonic> I made a horizontal antenna that radiates vertically 20:28 <@ShadowHntr> cerkit: just set up a box with pfSense or m0n0wall 20:28 <@ShadowHntr> that's what i've done 20:28 <@Catonic> I think I'm on to something 20:28 < cerkit> i'd like to trade some things around, and distribute them to 10 tb a peice with future upgrades. 20:28 <@Evilpig> fuck pfsense 20:28 <@Evilpig> that thing was really fucking goofy when I was working with it 20:28 <@Catonic> I think I just hit like the top 10% of all hams when it comes to antennae. 20:28 < cerkit> ShadowHntr: explain, please. 20:29 <@ShadowHntr> cerkit: a guy in chattanooga i know 20:29 <@ShadowHntr> takes off-lease thin clients 20:29 <@ShadowHntr> fits them with compact flash cards 20:29 <@Catonic> and sells them as picture frames 20:29 <@ShadowHntr> not quite 20:29 <@ShadowHntr> installs m0n0wall (m0n0.ch) 20:29 <@ShadowHntr> and sells them for $100 as firewall boxes 20:29 <@ShadowHntr> i use it myself 20:30 <@ShadowHntr> has full vpn termination support 20:30 <@ShadowHntr> packet shaping 20:30 -!- Catonic_lp [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:30 <@ShadowHntr> all the bells and whistles that most commercial firewalls have 20:30 < cerkit> my setup is quite simple, duo cores in the 2.0 area, with 2gb ram, 160 gb internals, that mount 500 gb external usb drives. 20:30 <@ShadowHntr> may not have all the advanced support of things like checkpoint, etc 20:30 < cerkit> its just like... 20:30 < cerkit> a whole lot of them 20:30 <@ShadowHntr> but you may want to look into that... 20:30 < cerkit> the pc's are worth $400 20:31 <@Catonic> omg omg omg 20:31 <@Catonic> I did it 20:31 <@Catonic> I found an antenna to put on the car 20:31 < jb7od> yay0r 20:31 <@Catonic> now I wonder if I'm going to trigger the airbags when I hit the mic button 20:32 < sdodson_> Wow, Family Guy sucks. 20:32 < cerkit> its a web interface i made, i use. that just plugins your data into a raw "spool", where you can optionally roll the file into a subversion repository. 20:32 < cerkit> plugs in 20:32 <@ShadowHntr> Catonic: HAHAHAHAHA 20:32 < cerkit> its all home grown. 20:32 < cerkit> i wish someone made a decent solution 20:32 < sdodson_> cerkit: oh manz I found a super awesome link that illustrates why I dislike ubuntu but i forgot where it is 20:32 <@ShadowHntr> um... 20:32 <@ShadowHntr> freenas? 20:32 -!- Catonic_lp [n=cinotac@67.9.24.60] has joined #se2600 20:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic_lp] by ChanServ 20:33 < cerkit> ShadowHntr: doesn't do everything i need 20:33 <@ShadowHntr> cerkit: what else do you need 20:33 < cerkit> it just doesn't work for my use case. 20:33 < cerkit> because my automation isn't designed and would need to be refactored for freenas. 20:34 <@ShadowHntr> ahhhh. 20:34 <@ShadowHntr> how about openfiler 20:34 < sdodson_> cerkit: http://davidnielsen.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/oh-the-irony-2/ 20:34 < jb7od> i need a tnc to mini sma converter. either that or chop up the cable to the yagi. 20:34 < cerkit> ShadowHntr: part of the data is regular backed up accounts, remote pcs... 20:34 < cerkit> other things are in use projects 20:35 <@ShadowHntr> ahhhh. gotcha. 20:35 < sdodson_> I'm out of freeze pops :( 20:35 <@ShadowHntr> didn't know that. 20:35 <@ShadowHntr> wow that's some setup 20:35 < cerkit> some parts are for media players 20:35 <@ShadowHntr> :) 20:35 < cerkit> it serves a lot of purposes 20:35 < cerkit> thats also why i think i also need the second box 20:35 < cerkit> not just more space 20:35 < jb7od> freeze pops.. i forgot about those. we make our kids eat yogurt and apples and stuff. 20:35 < cerkit> when i add the vpn... 20:36 < cerkit> i'm going to need to distribute load... 20:36 < cerkit> me... and my "users" 20:37 < sdodson_> jb7od: Lame. 20:37 < sdodson_> Refined sugar is so much better than that raw fructose found in fruits. 20:37 <@ShadowHntr> HAHAHA 20:38 < jb7od> lol 20:41 < sdodson_> Fine don't believe me. 20:41 < jb7od> i wish i had one of these http://www.kmj.com/images/proxim/7100.jpg for this http://cs3.com/JACE_NP1_Contoller_004.gif 20:41 < jb7od> na there's no unhypnotizing my wife from the oracle that is our pediatrician 20:43 < jb7od> somebody told me once: beware of anyone who you can see completely around their iris- they're crazy. 20:44 < jb7od> and if you met my kids' pediatrician, you wouldn't have evidence to refute the claim. 20:45 < jb7od> my daughter (kindergarten) gets homework every single night. wtf. 20:45 <@brimstone> break them in young 20:45 < jb7od> i guess... 20:46 <@brimstone> that which does not kill you... 20:47 < booker404> ...probably causes you to wake up in the morning with a blinding headache 20:47 < jb7od> true true. she can operate a search box on youtube by asking an adult how to spell "care bears" or whatever the case may be, so I'm not particularly worried... 20:47 < jb7od> na i only get headaches from malt liquor or synthetics. 20:48 < cerkit> how odd 20:48 < cerkit> you eat clones? 20:49 < jb7od> lol. well i could mean like rolls or something, but that could get made fun of just as easily. that's one for the courts: i eat my clone- is that cannibalism? 20:50 < jb7od> lol. sounds like a game- clone eater 20:50 < sdodson_> brimstone: makes you Kanye West? 20:50 < jb7od> hahahaaaaa 20:50 <@brimstone> everyone's a comic 20:51 < sdodson_> brimstone: you likes me jokes? 20:51 <@brimstone> only when they don't involve fruit 20:52 -!- remofor1 [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:52 < cerkit> sdodson_: he doesn't like anti-gay humor 20:52 < jb7od> speaking of contents- you ever notice on diet drinks anymore a red label that reads: Caution Contains Phenylketylneurics? 20:52 < jb7od> so i CALL mountain dew 20:53 <@ShadowHntr> it's cause some people are allergic to some of the precursors of aspartame 20:53 < jb7od> i say "what are phenylketylneurics?" 20:53 <@ShadowHntr> well 20:53 < jb7od> and they say "you'd know if you weren't supposed to have them" 20:53 <@Dagmar> NutraSweet. 20:53 <@ShadowHntr> their bodies can't fully process all the enzymes 20:53 < jb7od> I say hows that 20:53 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@cpe-071-070-193-020.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 20:53 <@Dagmar> Because you'd grab a knife and be clawing at the walls 20:53 < jb7od> they say "your doctor would tell you- it's llike your bloodtype" 20:53 <@Dagmar> She'll full of shit. 20:53 < sdodson_> Phenylketylneurics are a class of people that can't have some chemical that's in those drinks. 20:54 <@ShadowHntr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylalanine 20:54 <@Dagmar> It makes people with certain forms of epilepsy become *violent psychotics* 20:54 < jb7od> i say "i'm 27 (was then) and i know that 70% of people my age dont know their blood type!" 20:54 < jb7od> but anyway 20:54 < sdodson_> jb7od: Do you know if you're allergic to pennysilin? 20:54 < jb7od> i am 20:54 < cerkit> I think they should make up a name for the people who LIKE to drink those drinks only-- and then everyone else could just be called normal. 20:54 < sdodson_> jb7od: It's like that, i'm sure by this point in life you'd have found out. 20:54 < jb7od> slightly 20:55 < jb7od> sdodson_: so it's in more than just the new dew, eh? 20:56 < sdodson_> jb7od: It's in all drinks with aspartame. 20:56 < jb7od> i can taste that shit a mile out- i will stop consuming whatever it is with it in it at that point. it's chalky. 20:57 < cerkit> why cant people settle for coffee, tea, water, and the occasional (toxic-enough) soda? 20:58 < jb7od> i can. i just noticed it because my mother in law was letting my daughter have some, that prompted the call. i don't see myself ever purchasing something labeled 'diet' 20:58 < sdodson_> Why can't coffee and tea drinkers settle for water? 20:58 < cerkit> sdodson_: I'm tolerant of the people who would like caffeine. 20:58 < jb7od> the same reason XP users can't settle for slackware 20:59 < cerkit> But once you start going beyond that... 20:59 < cerkit> it begins to look like a congressional bill 20:59 < jb7od> i drink the hell out of coffee, that's why hahah. 20:59 < cerkit> soda 20:59 < cerkit> is the extreme 21:00 < cerkit> its full of strange ingredients. you didn't risk your life any more than a pesi. 21:00 < cerkit> pepsi* 21:00 < cerkit> these days. 21:00 < sdodson_> So who got a new bank in the past 14 days? 21:00 < cerkit> Not me. 21:00 < cerkit> I have a solvent bank. 21:01 < jb7od> what's wrong with the banks? I got a new one about a month ago. 21:01 < cerkit> sdodson_: you tell 'em. 21:01 < jb7od> well NEW lol 21:04 < jb7od> you know what's getting big? "marital seperation fraud" where you go get wic on your kids but you're still together and lie about being seperated. 21:04 < sdodson_> omg, the body of a man with "Thugg Life" tattoos was found in some gutter, what are the odds? 21:05 < sdodson_> cerkit: Wachovia mailed me last week pushing insurance services from AIG. 21:06 < sdodson_> I saw tons of wic mothers with expensive purses, obscene cell phone habits, and really nice cars. 21:06 < jb7od> i see you see what i mean 21:07 < jb7od> what you'll find is that in the new 'open relationship' dad pays ins. house. car. etc. etc. etc. 21:07 <@Catonic> wee 21:22 * Catonic starts dancing to Haddaway 21:24 * brimstone fights the urge to bob his head 21:24 * brimstone losses 21:26 * Catonic counters brimstone's losses with gains. 21:26 <@brimstone> i need a bailout 21:26 * I-MOD hands a lump sum 22:02 <@Catonic> i've put together an antenna model that takes almost 450 seconds to calculate at 1.5GHz 22:12 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day..."] 22:17 < sdodson_> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/adg/836109998.html 22:19 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:19 <@brimstone> "No anal required" 22:19 <@brimstone> with my luck, that'll be my quote 22:19 <@coil> rofl 22:20 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o remoford] by ChanServ 22:20 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:20 < sdodson_> brimstone: Corydon's alarm is going off right now. 22:21 <@ShadowHntr> VIRGIN ALARM ! 22:21 <@ShadowHntr> ;) 22:21 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@cpe-071-070-193-020.nc.res.rr.com] has left #se2600 [] 22:21 -!- remofor1 [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:36 -!- Hak5Darren_ [n=Hak5Darr@ip68-110-152-240.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:39 -!- sdodson [n=sdodson@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/sdodson] has joined #se2600 22:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 22:39 -!- sdodson_ [n=sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:40 <@sdodson> someone set me up the bomb 22:43 * coil goes to bomb site a 22:43 * coil plants 22:53 -!- sdflkasjdflkjsdf [n=non3@c-76-22-147-71.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:54 <@coil> aksdfadsfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf 22:59 <@Catonic> virgin alarm? 23:02 < eryc> ~seen sdflkasjdflkjsdf 23:02 <+MxZBot> i haven't seen 'sdflkasjdflk', eryc 23:04 -!- squirrelt3rd [n=non3@c-76-22-147-71.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:08 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["*sneeze*"] 23:35 -!- aestetix_ [i=aestetix@ip67-93-60-229.z60-93-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #se2600 23:51 < jb7od> man.. Monday 23:55 < jb7od> cometh 23:57 <@Catonic> woot. I think I just got rich. 23:58 <@Catonic> well, if you want to use a honda accord as an undercover police car anyway. --- Log closed Mon Oct 06 00:00:59 2008