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03:19  * aestetix sighs
03:20 <@aestetix> She did get married. I saw the papers.
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03:44 <@Catonic> aestetix: fuck you
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04:49 < Catonic_> feck
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07:31 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:17 < ware> surp0pin'z
08:18 < jb7[D]> Morning #se2600! and Happy Friday!
08:20 <@Dolemite> ESPN is broadcasting live from about 300 feet away from my desk at 3:30 PM today
08:20 < ware> ahh f-m0deezy
08:20 < ware> tonight is 2600 meetupz taint it
08:20 <@brimstone> tis
08:21 <@Dolemite> yepperz
08:21 < ware> i dont have to be in c00kveg4s today so nash2600 may be blessed with my devine presence
08:22 < jb7[D]> i'm thinkin on going
08:24 <@Dolemite> So did you watch the debates last night?
08:24 < jb7[D]> yup
08:26 < ware> yuhp, <3 palin
08:26 <@Dolemite> I'm sure ware was masturbating while watching it, hoping that Palin would slip a nip
08:26 <@Dolemite> Did you come every time that she winked at the camera?
08:26 < ware> i was workin on mah truck, fixin teh UV joint and now it runs smooth as ice
08:26 <@Dolemite> Hustler announced that they're making a pr0n called "Nailin' Palin"
08:26 < ware> hahaha
08:26 <@Dolemite> Make sure to put that on your Christmas list
08:27 < ware> we played Palin bingo last night during the debate, that was pretty fun
08:27 < ware> http://www.palinbingo.com/
08:28 < jb7[D]> the winks were hot.
08:28 < jb7[D]> i tried to get on my wife at some point halfway thru and she was like ewwwww
08:28 < jb7[D]> lol
08:28 <@Dolemite> they just kept reminding me of the end of Tina Fey's skit on SNL last weekend
08:29 <@Dolemite> She sure as hell didn't answer most of the questions, though
08:34 < ware> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2008/2008-583-V--buddy-can-you-spare-a-dime.gif
08:34 <@oddball> wow.. bad ass squirrels: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4489792.stm
08:36 <@I-MOD> wow
08:36 <@I-MOD> i need an army of those
08:36 <@I-MOD> to gut and demoralize my enemies
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08:41 < ware> http://gigapress.com/b/dscat.jpg
08:41 < ware> sfw
08:41 <@I-MOD> you say that, but do you mean it?
08:41 < jb7[D]> hi I-MOD, long time no see
08:42 <@I-MOD> dscat == ds cat != d scat
08:42 < ware> I-MOD: have i given ya a reason not to trust me?
08:42 <@I-MOD> howdy jb7[D]
08:42 < ware> http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/02/paris-2008-lamborghini-estoque-live/
08:44 <@I-MOD> that's a pretty hawt car
08:48 < ware> Dolemite: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/10/02/2008-10-02_larry_flynt_is_hustling_up_an_alaskin_fl.html
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09:11 <@Dolemite> ware : You still twinkin' it?
09:11 < ware> yuhrp
09:11 <@Dolemite> lewzer!
09:11 <@Dolemite> what level?
09:11 < ware> 1 enchant and 1 trinket away from full twinkedage
09:11 < ware> 39 still
09:12 < ware> ive been workin on a warrior thats 27 and i think ima take him to 70 first
09:12 <@Dolemite> I'm at 62.5
09:12 < ware> my rogue is too squishy
09:12 <@Dolemite> I deleted my rogue, I hated it too much
09:12 <@Dolemite> created a hunter to do mining/engineering with
09:13 < ware> i think ima try out the subtely* talent tree
09:13 < ware> however its spelled
09:13 < ware> hunters are cheeseball =/
09:13 <@Dolemite> I finally maxed out first aid so now I'm working on tailoring and cooking
09:13 <@Dolemite> fishing is so low it's not funny
09:13 < ware> i hate hunters and locks in bg's cause its all ranged attack bs lol
09:14 < ware> cooking is leetsauze, you get some cool buffs from the higher lvl food you can make
09:14 <@Dolemite> It's not all ranged.  I use my pets to chew on you up close. :)
09:14 < ware> +10 stam and str stuff
09:14 < ware> haha
09:14 <@Dolemite> right now I'm trying to farm felcloth so I can turn it into mooncloth, worth 9g each
09:14 <@GodFix> http://fukung.net/v/2548/anonnimityyyttt.jpg
09:19 <@Evilpig> what is wrong with that?  that is quality advice
09:19 <@Neoteric> GodFix: I'm using that.
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09:27 <@Dagmar> Fuck Felcloth
09:27 <@Dagmar> If the test server is any indication, you want to drop tailoring and pick up herbalism.
09:27 <@Dagmar> Buy all the herbs in the auction house, and beat up little kids for their Peacebloom if you can manage it
09:28 < ware> mal'ganis' economy is different than any other server ive been on
09:29 < ware> quite the pimp shit and easy to make money from midlevel skills
09:29 < ware> minig is hot
09:29 <@Shadow404> how many servers have you been on?
09:29 < ware> 4
09:29 <@Evilpig> the herbalism money will only last for a few weeks though when 3.0 comes out
09:30 <@Dagmar> ware: I have had to price _peacebloom_ at 500G a stack buyout to keep it from being bought before I can finish a cigarette
09:30 < ware> http://www.meritline.com/alcohol-tester-265.html
09:30 < ware> Dagmar: keyword test server
09:31 <@Evilpig> I did pay like 2k on the ptr for one of the new glyphs cause I wanted to test it
09:31 <@Dagmar> One of the inscriptions I was looking at last night was completely retarded.
09:31 <@Dagmar> Blizzard has a few devs who get high, to be sure.
09:31 < ware> MOTHERFUCKIN LOG.LDF SHIT BACK DAT ASS UP GIRL N QUIT FUXIN' MAH LOGZ NAHMSAYN
09:31 <@Dagmar> It makes your pet do 50% more damage when attacking while you use Eyes of the Beast
09:32 < ware> hehe
09:32 < ware> thats a neat spell
09:32 < ware>  / skill
09:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but... It's just a retarded ability to use to attack.
09:32 <@Dagmar> You can't shoot while you do that
09:33 <@Dagmar> So like, in addition to getting an extra 50% damage out of the pet, you get to do about 300-400 less DPS
09:33 <@Dagmar> No one's fucking pet hits to the tune of 700PDS
09:33 <@Dagmar> er DPS
09:34 <@Evilpig> hey Dagmar how do you feel about multishot and aimed shot being on the same cooldown now?  HA!
09:35 <@Dagmar> I could care less, since I raid and Multi-Shot is not useful
09:35 <@Dagmar> "Hits any three targets, with a preference for sheep and penguins".  Yay!
09:35 <@Dagmar> I had to drop Aimed Shot anyway
09:36 <@Dagmar> They raised the bar for Exotic pets a bit higher so I had to go 51/10/0
09:36 < TheLightCosine> ware: AD problems =P
09:36 < TheLightCosine> ?
09:37 <@brimstone> AD sucks
09:37 < TheLightCosine> atm, being in the middle of an AD integration, i am inclined to agree lol
09:38 < TheLightCosine> but it beats using eDirectory
09:38 <@Shadow404> wow, tmobile fucked up big time, now they are sending me a $150 refund, at least they took responsibility
09:38 <@brimstone> why not openldap?
09:39 < TheLightCosine> yes, and why don't we start running apache and RHLE
09:39 <@Evilpig> edirectory is far far superior to AD
09:39 <@Evilpig> at least edirectory has good reporting and repair tools.
09:39 < TheLightCosine> we are unfortunately a m$ only shop
09:39 <@brimstone> TheLightCosine: yeah, why not?
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09:39 < TheLightCosine> reporting on AD is easy as hell
09:39 <@brimstone> i mean, i know why not RHEL, but why not apache?
09:39 <@brimstone> :D
09:40 <@Evilpig> windows services for linux will be out in the next few months from novell.
09:40 < TheLightCosine> brimstone: why not indeed
09:40 < TheLightCosine> and why don't we get rid of Lotus Notes and VMS/VAx while we're at it
09:40 < TheLightCosine> seriously
09:40 < TheLightCosine> this stuff drives me crazy sometimes
09:40 <@Evilpig> lotus notes.  blech
09:40 < ware> TheLightCosine: AD prollumz?
09:41 <@brimstone> revolutions suck, but someone's got to start them
09:41 <@Evilpig> I hate the lotus notes client inability to work for more than one user
09:41 < TheLightCosine> evilpig: indeed, all stitched togetehr with AD and exchange via MIIS
09:41 < TheLightCosine> ware: you were complaining about an ldf file?
09:41 <@Dagmar> YES!
09:41 <@Dagmar> http://www.mikedownscenter.org/upload/images/Win%20button.jpg
09:41 <@Evilpig> this here is over a year old and it is finally going to be released. http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19325.html
09:42 < ware> TheLightCosine: thats SQL
09:42 <@GodFix> http://fukung.net/v/5611/rlylaid.jpg
09:43 < TheLightCosine> oh, we have a bunch of AD stuff from our aqusition that was exported to LDF
09:43 <@Evilpig> ldf or ldif?
09:43 < TheLightCosine> .ldf, which is what i guess is confusing me
09:44 < TheLightCosine> i thoguht ldf was just a shortened version of the ldif extension
09:44 < TheLightCosine> *showing ignorance*
09:44 <@Evilpig> I had to mess with an ldif export for the schools this past year.  
09:44 < ware> ldf is the transaction log
09:44 < ware> mdf is the db
09:45 < TheLightCosine> gotcha, my DB knowledge really extends to setting up a relational database, and executing your basic SQL
09:45 < ware> and AV installed with no scheduled scans is not ftw use of the application
09:46 < ware> man i heard a hilarious joke i wanted to share but now i dont remember it
09:46 < ware> f me... now i gotta find another one
09:47 < jb7[D]> bahahaha
09:47 < jb7[D]> i like that one fine
09:47 < TheLightCosine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtp5gNhBZgo
09:47 < TheLightCosine> rofl
09:52 <@Mirage> Damnit..I have to order a new speedo cable for the bike..noone seems to stock it in town..=(
09:54 < baud> everyone, if you're not registered to vote yet, do so
09:54 -!- baud is now known as baudburn
09:55 < ware> go McCain/Sexy Snow Princess!!!
09:55 < baudburn> whoever you vote for, just vote.
09:56 < baudburn> clearly, i hate hte crazy bitch and the old guy, but all that matters is that everyone votes.
09:56 <@brimstone> werm, i think that everyone needs to vote for someone whom they feel could support this nation for the next 4 years
09:57 < M0j0-j0j0> I'll vote for Clinton
09:57 <@brimstone> "just voting" isn't good enough
09:57 <@brimstone> have some purpose when you do
09:57 < ware> i think shes hot
09:57 < baudburn> thanks, captain obvious.
09:57 < ware> so she gets my vote cause i fantasize about her naked whenever shes on the toob
09:58 < M0j0-j0j0> ware: she'll get back to you on that
09:58 < baudburn> anyway, i'm going back to idling indefinately now.
09:58 < ware> ima wait for Nailin' Palin to come out
09:58 < ware> bai baudburn !
09:58 <@Drag0n> vote Cthuhlu, he cant be any worse than the other options!
09:59 <@brimstone> why settle for the lesser of evils?
09:59 < M0j0-j0j0> werd
10:00 <@Mirage> brimstone: you just described most of the elections for the past 2 decacdes
10:02 <@brimstone> that's me, ol' general brimstone
10:09 <@Dolemite> Ugh.  Corner office projects suck.
10:11 <@Evilpig> I need to get all my network / office equipment moved to a new subnet.  they are taking up too many IPs now
10:12 < ware> OH SHIT SUBNETTSING VLANZZZOMG!??!!
10:12 < ware> YOU CAN NOT HAVE A /34OMG
10:13  * shadowmoss glomps brimstone 
10:13 < ware> i got a detailed overview of one of our clients in NY that has 20+ remote sites
10:14 < ware> and theyre getting a pacs system put in so we're doing all new routers / switches / qos devices at each location
10:14 < ware> so it was a literal cisco shitdump of information of stuff im clueless about
10:14 < jb7[D]> hi shadowmoss
10:16 < ware> BGP EIGRP MPLS VLAN Port Channeling
10:16 < ware> stacking, server client transparent
10:17 < ware> the engineer guy here is a MCSE/CCNP and he used to be a teacher
10:17 < ware> pretty cool old dude
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10:18 <@Evilpig> ask him how much of his brain he lost getting the ccnp
10:19 <@brimstone> omg glomping
10:19 < ware> he said he had to forget the way he was used to doing things and learn the cisco way to pass the tests
10:20 <@Evilpig> it's the fucking truth.  everyone I have ever met that was good at shit before going for a cisco cert.  completely lost their ability to do anything but cisco
10:21 < jb7[D]> LOL
10:30 < ware> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/03/california.loan/index.html?eref=rss_us.
10:31 < ware> i need money!
10:32 <@SkyDog_> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10216772
10:32 <@SkyDog_> In case dagmar needs a backup bike...
10:33 <@Evilpig> lol
10:33 < ware> ya know, if it came with a hannah montana blow up doll
10:33 <@SkyDog_> Point taken.
10:33 < ware> then it'd be a real pocket rocket
10:34 < ware> http://www.hannahmontanacalls.com/
10:34 < ware> damn its over lol
10:35 <@Dolemite> dude, I am *so* imagining Dagmar on that scooter
10:35 <@Evilpig> with matching helmet
10:35 <@Evilpig> and a little pink backpack
10:35 <@Dolemite> One night we are going to stealth add some streamers onto his handlebars
10:35 <@Evilpig> add a pinwheel too
10:36 <@Dolemite> Excellent idea!
10:39 <@Shadow404> and tracking device so we can watch him ride past
10:40 <@Shadow404> oh, dont forget the orange safety flap whip
10:40 <@Shadow404> *flag
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10:52  * shadowmoss dumps brimstone into the bit bucket and locks on the lid
10:53 <@Dagmar> You guys really don't understand that I have no real qualms about hitting people.
10:53 <@shadowmoss> Dagmar: while in the bike, or with your fists?
10:53 < ware> whens the last time you hit someone?
10:53 <@shadowmoss> err, on the bike
10:53 <@Dagmar> ...and your'e not attaching anything to the handlebars because I keep having the ends brokebn off
10:53 <@Dagmar> shadowmoss: On the bike, or with this nice metal cane Opheria got me
10:54 <@critch> are you dropping such a little bike?
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10:54 <@shadowmoss> wow, dag, you must be really old to need a metal cane
10:54 <@shadowmoss> or am I missing something?
10:54 <@Dagmar> critch: There's something just lovely about the fine, loose gravel construction sites can generate
10:54 <@Dagmar> shadowmoss: It's got a metal skull on it
10:54 <@shadowmoss> ummm, ok
10:55 <@critch> I ride right through it without trouble. I also have done high speed cornering through sand and was able to keep my big bike up.
10:55  * Catonic shakes about
10:55  * shadowmoss watches Catonic shake his about
10:55 <@Dagmar> critch: This is me, not particularly caring.
10:56 <@oddball> critch: you also have a bit more experience than he does
10:56 <@Dagmar> I was on the road there, you weren't.
10:56 <@Dagmar> Sure enough those construction guys did a very diligent job of sweeping the street within a few hours so they knew they'd been making a nice mess there
10:56 <@critch> oddball: Yeah I do now, but even back when I first started riding, the only times I dropped the bike usually was because I was riding in wet grass.
10:57 < ware> ive only laid mine down riding once, but i did have 2 incidents in a parking lot hehe
10:58 <@critch> oddball: I learned riding laps around the house warming up the motor wasn't a good idea because every lap around the motor made more power and I was a little braver, bad combo on wet morning grass.
10:58 <@SkyDog_> Stefanie_TN: Heya!
10:58 <@Stefanie_TN> Hey.
10:58 <@Catonic> wtf did shadowhntr go?
10:58 <@Dolemite> Catonic: Why do you care?
10:58 <@SkyDog_> yeah.
10:58 <@Dolemite> Just be glad!
10:58 <@Catonic> Zdid he get k/b'd for not paying his bills?
10:59 <@Catonic> i have some junk hardware i want rid of
10:59 < ware> 1 - #se2600: ban *!*i=w@*.nun.doesnt.even.need.a.c1itor.us (by coil!i=mist3r@plz.donthack.us, 1372243 secs ago)
10:59 < ware> shadowhntr isnt +b here tho
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11:01 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
11:01 <@nachoguy> anyone use vpsvillage?
11:01 <@Dolemite> whozit?
11:03 < TheLightCosine> arg
11:03 < TheLightCosine> curse my total lack of knowledge of XML
11:04 < ware> nachoguy: dolphini.com
11:04 <@critch> do not go to dolphini
11:04 < ware> whys that?
11:04 <@nachoguy> Dolemite: $6/mo xen server
11:04 <@GodFix> http://fukung.net/v/8309/f220857e7002358724cc32881adcf6d6.jpg
11:04 <@nachoguy> I'm a bit fed up with dreamhost.  I've got Ass loads of storage and transfer, but the load on the box thismorning was above 90
11:04 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Yeah, I'm looking...   not a whole lot you can do with 64MB RAM, though.  heh.  The first usable one really is the $11/month one for 128MB.
11:05 <@critch> dolphini is almost broke most months
11:05 < ware> so they need clients
11:05 < ware> :P
11:05 <@critch> they decided it would be okay to ignore their phone bill for a while
11:05 < ware> haha
11:05 <@critch> That caused 2 T1s of ours to become suspended and they said it may take 4 days to get it back running
11:06 <@nachoguy> Dolemite: yeah, I think I'll keep the DH around for web stuff, but i need a shell I can actually log into and use
11:06 <@nachoguy> 4 days?  you're lucky
11:06 <@critch> This being lines that doctors use for dictations
11:06 <@critch> ware: it isn't a clients problem, it is bad fiscal policies
11:07 <@nachoguy> around here, non payment frequently causes the LEC to cut the line, and sometimes reuse the port at the local switching center.  Non payment can turn into a 30 day outage
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11:07 <@critch> nachoguy: it was put into a credit suspend, not turned off.
11:08 <@critch> nachoguy: that is why as soon as they were paid, it took only an hour or so to turn it back on.
11:08 <@nachoguy> ah
11:08 <@oddball> By the way, anybody ever deal with U.S. Datacomm?
11:09 <@critch> While cost is higher, the stability has been there at Sungard/Inflow
11:09 <@oddball> They're one of the datacenters my company is considering.
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11:12 <@critch> oddball: should it make you concerned about the hosting place it it appears that the CEO and CFO are married?
11:12 <@coil_> oh shit the fed is here
11:13 <@critch> Also there is no Senior Staff listed under Senior Staff
11:13 <@tzanger> coil_: you're getting some of that bailout money? :-)
11:13 <@coil_> nah man
11:14 <@oddball> critch: heh... yeah... well... the founder/CEO of the company came over and talked to me today.
11:14 < ware> anyone have a linkedin profile to check something for me
11:14 <@oddball> So, obviously a smaller and newer company than, say, Sungard.
11:14 <@nachoguy> yeah, I like dealing with the little guys, except for telecom/hosting
11:15 <@critch> oddball: read this and know that this happened back in June, http://www.usdatacomm.net/news/NewCFO.html
11:15 <@nachoguy> using a halfassed telecom provider or a budget rate colo facility is great until something happens, then they're more in the dark than you are.
11:17 <@critch> heh, it sounds more like they had a slow news time and needed more news items. March '07 he appoints his wife CAO, and June '08 she basically does the same thing but with the title CFO
11:17 <@oddball> bah.... and there's also something that always irritates me.  Everyone is a "leading provider" in their field.
11:17 <@nachoguy> I've had my netadmins walking a provider 2nd level tech through how to check/fix interfaces on their on equipment
11:17 <@oddball> nice!
11:17 <@oddball> hmm... thinking I need lunch.
11:18 <@nachoguy> I've seen facilities where instead of charging the UPS batteries with 48V, they charged them with 44V.  Apparently that didn't work so well when they actually needed them
11:18 <@tzanger> nachoguy: what was the rationale?
11:18 <@nachoguy> I guess most of the batteries failed, and some sort of power regulater (I am not an elctrician) fried
11:18 <@nachoguy> stupidity.  They "didn't realize" it was happening
11:19 <@critch> oddball: here is yet another reason to not like them. They relocated to Lebanon 8/05 and then relocated again to Madison 7/07
11:23 <@nachoguy> uhh, someone should get an account on dreamhost now.  they're giving out accounts tht will have no disk or bandwidth restrictions, apparently 30 left.
11:23 <@nachoguy> dreamhost.com/unlimited.html for details
11:23 < ware> 4 how manys
11:24 <@nachoguy> $5.95/mo (probably like a year prepayment)
11:25 <@Dementia> dreamhost sucks
11:25 <@nachoguy> meh, if you do it, let me know, I've got a referrer code
11:26 <@Dementia> I've been dealing with them
11:26 <@nachoguy> they do.
11:26 <@Dementia> trying to move a guy off their servers
11:26 <@Dementia> time to leave work early, yay. later
11:26 <@aestetix> ok
11:26 <@aestetix> I'm taking advice from the channel and walking away from the situation :)
11:26 < ware> gtfobai
11:26 <@nachoguy> Like I was saying earlier, I think I'll get a shell account elsewhere and keep DH for random hosting of shit
11:26 <@nachoguy> later Dem
11:27 <@aestetix> Dementia: hey! and ttyl
11:27  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
11:37 < jb7[D]> critch: heather o. says hi to you- (one with the twins if u don't remember)
11:40 <@aestetix> does he have big twins?
11:43 < jb7[D]> she does indeed, but other two
11:43 < jb7[D]> but not quadruplets
11:44 <@coil_> lol
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12:04 <@coil_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdF6M2FBKG4 ooo microwavecam
12:09 < jb7[D]> giggidy giggidy
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12:33 <@coil_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLfsG8XKWfw pass this on
12:39 < eryc> bill passed
12:40 <@critch> jb7[D]: which twins?
12:40 <@coil_> 700billion down the drain?
12:42 < eryc> ya, authorized for the drain
12:42 <@coil_> that sux
12:49 <@timoguin> So I'm having to write a creative paper and just realized what I have is easily expandable into book length.
12:49 <@timoguin> And shitty as it is.
12:49 <@timoguin> As a short story that is.
12:50 <@coil_> k
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13:55 <@Catonic> timoguin: when you get to screenplay length, call me.
13:58 <@NotLarry> ok, I have not setup a mailserver in a long time.  Who likes what under linux?
13:59 <@critch> NotLarry: have you checked out Zimbra?
14:03 <@nachoguy> I hear Zarafa is suppoed to be the shizzle, if you want to replace exchange
14:03 <@nachoguy> as for just MTA, I like postfix
14:05 <@NotLarry> I guess I'm gonna want to accept email for multiple domains, and allow ppl to pop in (or whatever we use now:).  Last time I started a mailserver from scratch it was 1996
14:05 < jb7[D]> hi NotLarry.
14:08 <@critch> NotLarry: zimbra's open source version will let you define multiple domains really easily. Web based or imap/pop3 connections to get mail. Spam and antivirus scanning builtin. Reduced footprint webmail frontend for mobile phones too.
14:10 <@NotLarry> looks a little overkill for what I need.  I just need a basic mta
14:10 <@nachoguy> postfix
14:10 <@critch> Yeah, but web based admin is pretty nice. Not adding real users for email accounts is nice
14:10 <@nachoguy> critch does have a point
14:11 <@NotLarry> p2 with 256mb ram
14:11 <@critch> Quotas for users is nice if you are handing out access to friends.
14:11 <@critch> Yeah, not much chance there of even handling spam filtering on that, spend $50 and get a real computer
14:11 <@critch> I have a beefier machine than that just for my firewall.
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14:12 <@NotLarry> I have a real computer and I'm saving the 50 bucks for hookers for the kids at pn12
14:15 < M0j0-j0j0> the hookers in Nashville must be something special... they seem to get an awful lot of focus during pre-event discussion.
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14:15 <@Dolemite> That's because we see so many of them during PN
14:15 <@nachoguy> 50 bucks for those hookers?  what are you renting a platoon for the entire weekend?
14:16 < jb7[D]> lol like Kiss
14:16 < jb7[D]> in tokyo
14:16 < jb7[D]> haha
14:16 < jb7[D]> stagedive into em
14:16 < M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: I know this has been at the same place year after year, but I've stayed at this hotel of another event and they had bed bugs... I wish it was somewhere else.
14:17 <@critch> M0j0-j0j0: you actually sleep at PN?
14:18 <@nachoguy> anywhere else and you'd be paying a lot more, and we'd have more visits from the cops
14:18 <@Dolemite> Well the truth is that even a $400/night hotel can have bed bugs
14:19 <@Dolemite> They are some of the hardest things to ever get rid of
14:19 < M0j0-j0j0> critch: not too worried about the sleep... more worried about taken them home with me like I did last time and having to burn my mattress again.
14:19 <@Dolemite> M0j0-j0j0 : Don't sleep with ware this time and you'll be safe
14:19 <@critch> hehe, I think the only time I actually had a room for PN was back at the airport.
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14:20 < M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: that was my ride for the weekend.. Damn.. now I'll have to spend the $50 I had thought I would be able to save.
14:21 <@Dolemite> And you were planning on spending that $50 on the hookers...
14:21 <@Dolemite> so here we are back where we started
14:22 < M0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: seriously... they are the hardest thing to get rid of... and the hotel management assures me they don't have bed bugs... but I'm thinking I'm going to fog my room before I actually put my stuff in it
14:23 < M0j0-j0j0> I'll be there before Friday so it shouldn't be that much of an issue
14:24 < M0j0-j0j0> If I kill anyone it will be a civilian.
14:25 < M0j0-j0j0> or SkyDog
14:25 < M0j0-j0j0> or one of the courtesy enforcement troopers
14:26 <@Dolemite> yeah, I'll be there Thursday evening
14:26 < M0j0-j0j0> or housekeeping
14:27 <@nachoguy> me too Thursdaynight ++
14:27 < M0j0-j0j0> Thursday morning (I think)
14:27 < ware> PN?
14:27 < ware> ill be there fri day
14:28 <@coil_> hi how do i make it to pn
14:28 <@SkyDog_> M0j0-j0j0: Um, yeam.
14:28 <@coil_> i wonder if synx is going
14:28 < M0j0-j0j0> ware: my flight was less if I came on a thursday morning and left on a monday night so..
14:28 <@coil_> cuz it would be a long ride
14:28 <@coil_> drive8
14:29 <@coil_> Driving directions to Nashville, TN
14:29 <@coil_> 934 mi – about 14 hours 0 mins
14:29 <@coil_> holy shit
14:30 <@coil_> who wants to ride with me
14:31 < cwire> -
14:31 < cwire> oops, anyone coming from atlanta
14:31 < M0j0-j0j0> SkyDog_: are you trying to tell me that maybe unleashing topic fumes in an area adjacent to living people that aren't me might not be a good idea?
14:32 < M0j0-j0j0> SkyDog_: OR killing people is cool... do it again!
14:32 <@brimstone> i <3 topic fumes
14:33 <@coil_> synx!!!!
14:33 <@coil_> is there memoserv
14:33 <@coil_> ~seen sync
14:33 <+MxZBot> coil_: i haven't seen 'sync'
14:33 <@coil_> ~seen synx
14:33 <+MxZBot> synx_ <n=Synx@adsl-33-119-237.shv.> was last seen on IRC in channel #se2600, 9d 19h 32m 10s ago, saying: 'see and people are freaking out about it'.
14:34 <@critch> http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/311/ga9akz7d0ifhoigoq8pncj7.jpg
14:35 < M0j0-j0j0> grrr
14:35 <@critch> sfw, funny
14:36 <@dasunt> Saw something odd today.
14:36 < M0j0-j0j0> mirror?
14:36 <@dasunt> Got a call from work on my day off, 'cause $client couldn't connect to pop3.
14:36 <@dasunt> Went onsite, did the whole telnet test.
14:36 < M0j0-j0j0> <rim-shot here>
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14:37 <@dasunt> Had to kill Outlook because it was hanging on the connect.
14:37 <@dasunt> After outlook was killed, I could log in, but the first message in the mailbox was 0 octets long.
14:37 <@dasunt> No headers, nothing.
14:37 <@dasunt> Deleted it and outlook then worked.
14:38 <@brimstone> makes you question what else they overlooked
14:38 <@dasunt> How is it possible to get a 0 length mail on a pop3 server?  Pop3 error?
14:38 <@dasunt> Server issues?
14:38 <@dasunt> Happened on several accounts at this site.
14:38 <@brimstone> exchange?
14:38 <@dasunt> Didn't look like it.
14:39 < M0j0-j0j0> speaking of having to go in to work on your day off... I'm getting outta here... If you guys feel like it you should come down to the gallery after the meeting.. basement of the Carter art building... 20 S. Glenwood Ave.
14:39 < M0j0-j0j0> peace
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14:39 <@dasunt> Shit, it is Friday, sin't it?
14:39 <@dasunt> Missed a meeting.
14:39 <@SkyDog_> Ouch.
14:40 <@brimstone> dasunt: it's ok, they didn't notice
14:40 <@dasunt> It wasn't an important one.
14:45 <@Evilpig> unimportant meetings for unimportant people
14:47 <@brimstone> Evilpig: that's deep
14:47 <@dasunt> Yep.
14:47 <@dasunt> Hmmm, what is it about Catholicism that makes girls into nymphomaniacs?
14:47 <@brimstone> the taboo
14:47 <@coil_> lack of
14:47 <@brimstone> the rebelous spirit
14:48 <@Evilpig> the priests won't touch them.
14:48 <@dasunt> Evilpig: Good one.
14:49 <@coil_> dasunt: they are encouraged to have lots of catholic kids
14:51 <@Evilpig> i'm sticking with sexual frustration cause they see the boys getting all the "good father's" attention
14:52  * dasunt agrees with Evilpig.
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14:53 <@Evilpig> alright enough fantasizing about little girls in white shirts and plaid skirts.  I need to go get some cable clips from lowes and finish installing some surge protectors over at the fancy office
14:55 <@coil_> kthbai
14:55 <@Catonic> dasunt: because they are given order, and the boys are given order, and it's "bad" to violate those orders.
14:58 < cwire> hmm, i'm going to have to sneak into a catholic church sometime
14:59 <@coil_> k
15:00 < cwire> damn, it's only 4:00, not too early to start the drinking, right?
15:00 <@Evilpig> never too early
15:00 < cwire> that's what i like to hear
15:00 <@Evilpig> I have a beer fridge in the tech dept.  so it's always beer thirty
15:01 < cwire> nice!
15:02 < cwire> i only have half a bottle of rum right now, but on the bright side, there's a liquor store within walking distance
15:02 <@coil_> k
15:06 < rattleX> Is there something in the wild right now that uses tcp 1285?
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15:19 <@Catonic> so you can't practice law for anyone unless you are a lawyer.
15:19 <@Catonic> what about teaching law?
15:20 <@Catonic> I know a would-be attorney who failed the bar; I'm wondering if I could get him to teach me about law under the auspices of helping him prepare for the next exam.
15:21 < ware> auspices?
15:21 < ware> like, for spaghetti?
15:21 < ware>  (Latin: auspicium from auspex, literally "one who looks at birds")
15:21 <@oddball> Catonic: no, you don't have to pass the bar to teach (though I'd think it would help)
15:22 <@Dolemite> At 4 PM Mirage and I head over to Conference
15:22 <@Dolemite> er, Conference Room 7A
15:22 <@Dolemite> aka "Corner Pub"
15:23 <@oddball> So, nashville2600 has moved?
15:23 <@Dolemite> no
15:23 <@Dolemite> this is a pre-2600 Meeting conference
15:23 <@oddball> ah
15:23 < ware> i has invite 42 consume?
15:23 < ware> red four two
15:24 <@Dolemite> ware : It's a public place
15:24 <@Dolemite> so yeah, show up 42 consume
15:25 <@oddball> so... your talking in failed lolspeak now?
15:25 <@Dolemite> I'm communicating in a language ware would understand
15:26 <@oddball> so... little words then
15:27 < ware> Dolemite: jus 2b public !cause4 appearance
15:27  * ware wan2haz invite
15:29 < Genphlux> Heya Dolemite
15:31 < Genphlux> It's been a while since I've been in here, still remember the same few though
15:31 <@Dolemite> Genphlux : gimme pix of girlfriend nakedz!
15:32 <@Dolemite> ware : ur invited
15:32 < Genphlux> Leighanne?   haha
15:32 < ware> Dolemite: twinny2hunred el liston?
15:32 <@Dolemite> uh
15:32 <@Dolemite> it's on broadway
15:32 <@Dolemite> across from Great Escape
15:32 < ware> http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&q=corner+pub+nashville,+tn&fb=1&ll=36.151373,-86.802099&spn=0.012943,0.019312&z=16&iwloc=B
15:32 < ware> so B not C hehe
15:33 < ware> ahh elliston was corner bar not pub
15:33 < Genphlux> no more Leighanne....we split a long time ago
15:37 <@Dolemite> Genphlux : Then she won't have to know that you're sharing pics of her titties!
15:38 <@Dolemite> So you coming to PN this year?
15:38 < Genphlux> Yes sir.
15:38 <@Dolemite> Cool.  Maybe we can get you to participate in one of the social events that I've been organizing thoughout the year.
15:39 <@Dolemite> We did Mammoth Cave this summer.  Hiked Burgess Falls in the Spring.
15:39 < Genphlux> According to my boss, in order to meet my goals for this year's performance appraisal and all that, I have to attend one information security conference.
15:39 < ware> Dolemite: i propose a canoe / camping trip!
15:39 < Genphlux> So I'm off work and set to go.
15:39 < ware> before it gets freezin
15:39 < Genphlux> Ah yeah I'd be up for that.  Is that stuff mostly in Middle TN?
15:39 <@Dolemite> ware : It's too late to organize one for this Fall, plus PN is already on the calendar, y0!
15:39 <@Dolemite> Yeah, kind of
15:39 < ware> f that, lets go after PN
15:39 <@Dolemite> we've done a canoe trip near Chattanooga
15:39 <@critch> Has anyone else talked to laughingboy lately. He mentioned being interested in coming to PN this year.
15:40 < ware> middle of nov
15:40 < ware> plenty of time!
15:40 < Genphlux> Yeah I think I heard of that one.
15:40 < ware> yeah but we didnt camp out
15:40 < ware> Buffalo River
15:40 < ware> down at Crazy Horse put in
15:40 <@Dolemite> There's no reason you can't do that yourself, ware
15:40 < ware> yeah but nobody would come lol
15:40 < Genphlux> A few of us 901 guys may compete in the WiFi race again this year as well.
15:40 < ware> 'hes that annoying fuck on irc'
15:40 <@Dolemite> But November is my birthday, my son's birthday, and Thanksgiving.  I'm not organizing shit for November.
15:41 <@Dolemite> I will plan another Spring and Summer outing for next year.
15:41 < ware> see, if i organized it you would go :(
15:41 <@critch> hey, Nov is my birthday too, not that it matters for your planning of shit.
15:41 < ware> Nov is my birthday too!
15:41 <@Dolemite> Yeah, happy birthday, critch, but I ain't organizing your party.
15:41 <@Dolemite> What days?
15:41 <@Dolemite> Mine is the 16th
15:41 <@Dolemite> 2.0's is the 24th
15:41 <@critch> 25th
15:42 <@Dolemite> cool
15:42 <@critch> my gf's mother is the 24th I think
15:42 < ware> <- Aug 27th
15:43 <@critch> hehe, I infected my coworker with "Gorgeous tiny chicken machine show" videos
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15:57 < eryc> best movie of the summer is out today
15:58 < ware> whichin
15:58 < eryc> beverly hills chihuahua!
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16:04 < cwire> anyone see the debate viewer from the nytimes?  pretty interesting
16:04 <@aestetix> ware:
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16:09 < ware> aestetix:
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16:24 <@GodFix> neeting still on tonight
16:24 <@GodFix> ?
16:24 <@GodFix> meeting?
16:24 <+MxZBot> meeting is held the first Friday of each month, typicallystarting between 5:30 and 6:00 PM local time.  Nashville has theirs at Vanderbilt University Hill Center, Room 151.  Atlanta has theirs at Lenox Mall Food Court.
16:27 < ware> GodFix: yeuhp
16:27 <@SkyDog_> Damn skippy.
16:28 <@GodFix> sweet
16:29 <@GodFix> i found a pic even better than goatse
16:29 <@GodFix> embedded it in an email to our intern
16:29 <@GodFix> and watched as he shat his pants
16:29 <@GodFix> it was aweseom
16:29 <@GodFix> awesome even
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16:30 < cwire> i'm pretty sure i don't want to know what was worse than goatse
16:30 < cwire> though goatse is a bit overused
16:31 <@tcstool> yeah the shock value of that one has worn a bit
16:32 < eryc> i prefer tubgirl
16:32 <@coil> 2girls1cup is all the new rage guys
16:33 < cwire> even tubgirl's shock value has gone down at this point
16:35 < cwire> i imagine 2 girls 1 cup and the bme pain olympics still gets a lot of people
16:35 <@GodFix> image BME mixed with goatse
16:36 < cwire> o_O
16:36 <@coil> bme pain?
16:36 <@coil> haven't heard of that one
16:36 <@GodFix> this was a dude bent over, upto his left elbow in his arse and on the verge of yanking his entire genital set off
16:36 < cwire> holy balls
16:37 < cwire> the bme pain olympics is...twisted coil
16:37 <@coil> lol
16:37 <@coil> i must see
16:38 <@GodFix> trying to find it again
16:38 < cwire> i'm not to be held responsible if you have an aneurysm pop
16:39 <@coil> iv'e seen worse
16:39 <@coil> like that site where theres diff vids of people mutilating their penis
16:40 <@coil> either hammering, cutting, sticking things init
16:41 < cwire> sticking things in it, not so bad, cutting the bastard off, not so good
16:41 <@buu> Once I learned the pain olympics were faked it took a lot of it out for me
16:44 <@GodFix> TNSFW but this isn't it http://fukung.net/v/1990/vsjl2q.jpg
16:48 <@critch> ohh shit, LOR as WoW http://fukung.net/v/8380/1d2b1ea50236faaa645d823cf57a8096.gif
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16:54 < geoffscoffee> afternoon
16:56 <@GodFix> I give up, i can't find it again.
16:56 < eryc> fail
16:57 < geoffscoffee> DOH!
16:57 <@GodFix> I've still got it in my email though
16:59 <@GodFix> I can e-mail it to anyone that wants to see
16:59  * ladymerlin waves to geoffscoffee 
17:00  * geoffscoffee waves back
17:00  * brimstone waves to brimstone
17:00 < geoffscoffee> gotta logoff for dinner
17:00 <@ladymerlin> comeing to the meeting tonight?
17:00 < geoffscoffee> I'll be there as long as you don't hide from me
17:00 < geoffscoffee> same place at vandy, right?
17:00 <@ladymerlin> lol
17:00 <@ladymerlin> yeah
17:01 <@ladymerlin> upstairs
17:01 < geoffscoffee> cool
17:01 <@ladymerlin> room 328
17:01 <@tcstool> bah, Nashville
17:01 <@tcstool> :-p
17:01 < geoffscoffee> ok, i"m gonna pack it inbar nashville?
17:02 < geoffscoffee> that made no sense
17:02 < geoffscoffee> I'm gonna pack it in
17:02 <@ladymerlin> thats what i was thinking
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17:02 < geoffscoffee> random words
17:02 <@ladymerlin> lol drugs kill...
17:02 < geoffscoffee> see you in meatspace
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17:03 <@GodFix> OSFNSFW http://www.flickr.com/photos/17341021@N08/ NSFW NSFW
17:03 <@GodFix> http://www.flickr.com/send?photostream=17341021@N08
17:04 <@GodFix> that might work better
17:04 <@critch> firstworked, second didn't
17:04 <@critch> http://fukung.net/v/6320/gaydeer.jpg
17:06 <@GodFix> heading to the meeting now
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17:57 <@nachoguy> later
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18:24 <@coil> http://applegeeks.com/lite/strips/aglite363.jpg
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18:51 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_, ladymerlin: ping
18:52 <@ladymerlin> sup
18:52 <@Evilpig> I need help with some fonts
18:52 <@ladymerlin> k
18:56 <@SkyDog_> Heya Evilpig.
18:57 <@Evilpig> there you are
18:58 <@Evilpig> I have the graphic done.  trying to match the fonts up for the text so i can get it to shelly
18:59 <@Evilpig> how well do you think that there will print?
19:00 <@Evilpig> why the hell am I showing lag on irc?  wtf
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19:15 <@Drag0n> dont forget the defibrolator
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19:18 < geoffscoffee> drink!
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19:51 <@juice> hi
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19:57 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig?
19:58 <@Evilpig> DAMN YOU BLIZZARD!!!
20:41 <@Catonic> Damn you to hell!
20:41  * Catonic wanders in a little pale
20:54 <@Catonic> run
20:54 <@Catonic> *fun
20:54 <@Catonic> been taking pictures 20 stories up
20:55 < eryc> http://fukung.net/v/6889/1191459219954.gif (wfsn)
21:25 <@coil> http://i33.tinypic.com/aob6sk.jpg
21:25 <@coil> (sfw)
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21:43 < eryc> (girl flips off hecklers in a car)
21:43 < eryc> Guy in car: Oh yeah, sweetie? Why don't you stick that up your ass?!
21:43 < eryc> Girl: Maybe if I made it into a fist you'd want to stick it up yours.
21:44 < eryc> --30th Ave, Astoria
21:51 <@coil> hey sdodson are you around
21:52 <@coil> !seen sddond
21:52 <@coil> ~seen sdodson
21:52 <+MxZBot> sdodson <n=sdodson@pdpc/supporter/mo> was last seen on IRC in channel #se2600, 2d 2h 47m 10s ago, saying: 'OMG THAT WAS SOOOO WITTY!'.
21:53 < eryc> ~seen coil
21:53 <+MxZBot> coil is currently on #se2600 (23h 52m 55s).  Has said a total of 14 messages.  Is idling for 55s  Last seen saying: '~seen sdodson'
22:05 <@Evilpig> ~seen evilpig
22:05 <+MxZBot> evilpig is currently on #se2600 (2d 12h 43m 21s).  Has said a total of 74 messages.  Is idling for 0s  Last seen saying: '~seen evilpig'
22:15 < eryc> ~seen eryc is awesome
22:15 <+MxZBot> i haven't seen 'eryc is awes', eryc
22:15 < eryc> ~seen
22:16 < eryc> ~seen             .
22:16 <+MxZBot> eryc: i haven't seen '            '
22:16 < astralsin2> ~seen ' or 1=1 --
22:16 <+MxZBot> i haven't seen '' or 1=1 --', astralsin2
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22:16 < eryc> ~seen \'
22:16 <+MxZBot> i haven't seen '\'', eryc
22:17 < eryc> ~seen ``
22:17 <+MxZBot> i haven't seen '``', eryc
22:17 < eryc> ~seen '``'
22:17 <+MxZBot> eryc: i haven't seen ''``''
22:18 < eryc> well it would be fun if you did!
22:22 <@ShadowHntr> naughty, naughty
22:22 <@ShadowHntr> buffer overflow?
22:22 <@ShadowHntr> :/
22:27 < mubix> SkyDog_, you round small fry?
22:42 <@Evilpig> well you got the round part with skydog right but not small
22:49 < cerkit> Does anyone have extra room in their bomb shelter?
22:49 < cerkit> I flipped mine in the real estate boom.
22:50 < cerkit> :)
22:50 <@Evilpig> no need to panic just yet.  palin isn't in a position to kill off mccain and take over, yet
22:51 < cerkit> You can't kill John McCain.
22:51 < cerkit> He's not a man.
22:52 <@Evilpig> I can kill a bug and it's not a man either
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22:52 < cerkit> I offer into evidence exhibit A: this fuckers time in a tiger cage.
22:52 < cerkit> :P
22:52 < cerkit> We all know his not lucky or especially smart.
22:53 < cerkit> So, it has to be that he's superhuman.
22:53 < cerkit> But, like any immortal, he needs to be reminded of the fragility of life, and shit.
22:53 < cerkit> So, he picks Palin.
22:54 < cerkit> I'm kidding of course.
22:54 < cerkit> I just can't take that ticket seriously at all.
22:54 < cerkit> I hope we get a "The Palin's" reality show out of it though.
22:55 <@Feltenix> would you say John Mccain is out there. He can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead.
22:55 < cerkit> I hear he's a Maverick.
22:56 <@Feltenix> so he is good with cards?
22:56 < cerkit> I thought that meant he hit the brakes and let them fly on by...
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22:57 < cerkit> He's gotta be good with cards, its all he reads off...
23:00 < cerkit> If John McCain gets elected, I will truly have to consider moving my "empire" to other lands.
23:01 < cerkit> Perhaps back to the motherland.
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23:17 <@Catonic> cerkit: hold me.
23:34 <@ShadowHntr> cerkit: John McCain's an air-to-air missle? That explains everything !
23:37 < cerkit> Hold you?
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> er
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> air-to-ground
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> my mistake.
23:37 < cerkit> Weird.
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> been to long since i've played A-10 Tank Killer.
23:37 < cerkit> ShadowHntr: I think he might be a dud.
23:37 <@Evilpig> he wants to be your bitch
23:37 < eryc> hold me while i pee
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> cerkit: lol - that'd make sense too.
23:37 <@ShadowHntr> :)
23:38 < eryc> i use the kids urinal so i dont bottom out
23:38 < cerkit> is there any real chance he'll be elected?
23:39 <@ShadowHntr> dunno
23:39 <@ShadowHntr> he puts enough gay bashing amendments on the state ballots and the right-wingers may mobilize some crazy-ass voters
23:39 <@ShadowHntr> :P
23:39 < eryc> i think thats why we just gave 700b to the rich so they can start a new country
23:39 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
23:40 <@ShadowHntr> or so they can fuck up yet one more time
23:40 < cerkit> where will it be?
23:40 < cerkit> maybe i can move there.
23:40 < eryc> at least we'll have our wooden arrows
23:40 < eryc> and starkist tuna
23:40 <@ShadowHntr> lol
23:40 <@Evilpig> and torches
23:40 <@ShadowHntr> build enough bomb shelters
23:41 < cerkit> the cynical side to the pork is not even truly worthwhile.
23:41 < cerkit> the fact is, by making it political at all...
23:41 < eryc> lets move to samoa!
23:41 < cerkit> they've scared anyway most private market investment solutions
23:42 < cerkit> the reason so few people have made deals is that, the rules could change under them.
23:45 < cerkit> 14,000-10,000 from 10-2007 to 10-2008 was the DOW (with modifications) looking forward through all the credit issues.  Now, at 10,5-- it has to price-in this recession.
23:46 < cerkit> So, thsts why you saw it dip even after the bill passed--  that was actually a signal to a class of investor that we are (especially with the lag-time of a credit infusion) going to have a recession.
23:46 < cerkit> What kind is anyones' guess, some day Great Depression 2.0, some say we're back on track mid-2k9.
23:46 <@NotLarry> anyone know where pine stores mail?
23:47 < cerkit> NotLarry: It doesn't, it reads your mail spool.
23:47 < cerkit>  /var/spool/mail/<user>
23:47 < cerkit>  /var/mail/<user>
23:47 < cerkit>  Unless you use IMAP.
23:48 <@NotLarry> That is what I was afraid of.  There are no files there:)
23:48 < cerkit> huh?
23:48 < cerkit> you mean its folders?
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23:49 <@NotLarry> those directories are empty.  I do however have 26000 emails when I open a newly installed pine
23:49 < cerkit> hmmm
23:49 < cerkit> look in $HOME/mail
23:50 <@NotLarry> that was kind of what I was thining
23:50 <@NotLarry> er, thinking
23:50 < cerkit> ?
23:51 <@NotLarry> glad I wasn't just being overtly stupid
23:51 <@NotLarry> $HOME/mail did not exist until I installed pine
23:51 < eryc> i think its in Mail
23:51 <@NotLarry> I went into /var/mail and /var/spool/mail and made sure they were empty
23:52 < cerkit> I think the actual path is defined in $HOME/.pinerc
23:52 < cerkit> but it tends to default to $HOME/mail
23:52 < cerkit> but, normally it depends on your mail source, be it local reading or remote via POP3/IMAP.
23:52 < cerkit> pine does them all.
23:52 < eryc> maybe im thinking of mutt
23:52 <@NotLarry> yeah, when I fire up pine it creates $HOME/mail
23:53 <@NotLarry> local.  I hope.
23:53 < cerkit> eryc: You don't invest do you?
23:53 < cerkit> You should.  You're young enough that you can more than afford to take a loss.
23:54  * eryc channels spock
23:54 < eryc> illogical!
23:54 < cerkit> Age/Time is a valid and important aspect of risk versus reward.
23:54 < eryc> im counting on my pet rock to take off any day now
23:54 < cerkit> Over your life time, the earlier you take tisks, the more time you have to learn from any mistakes, or regain losses.
23:55 < cerkit> When your 70
23:55 < cerkit> you're less work-viable obviously
23:55 < cerkit> so, its better to take those risks now.
23:55 < eryc> i should probably have a 401k too, but i dont
23:55 < cerkit> so you can use those gains then
23:55 < cerkit> you would do better with 2 IRAs
23:55 <@NotLarry> Blew all my money on hookers and drugs.
23:56 < cerkit> a Roth & a Traditional
23:56 <@NotLarry> I'd say I got a better return
23:56 < cerkit> maxmimum 15k a year.
23:56 <@NotLarry> Considering this rash that won't go away, probably a more consistent return as well.
23:56 < cerkit> 5k per account
23:56 < cerkit> Roth's let you trade, tax exempt.
23:57 < cerkit> Traditionals deposites are tax deductible.
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