--- Log opened Fri Sep 26 00:00:57 2008 00:04 -!- maverickbna is now known as ShadowHntr 00:18 -!- Hak5Darren_ [n=Hak5Darr@ip68-110-152-240.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:20 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["*sneeze*"] 00:30 -!- scott is now known as coil 00:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil] by ChanServ 00:42 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@cpe-071-070-193-020.nc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 03:12 -!- sidusnare [n=fred4@atlanta.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 03:42 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@66.190.143.199] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:58 * Catonic is wander 03:59 <@Catonic> dasunt: awake? 04:00 -!- RyanHouse [n=rhouse@nocpod10.acs.internap.com] has left #se2600 [] 04:42 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 04:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Cynefrid] by ChanServ 05:36 <@Catonic> dc0de: alive? 07:57 -!- Curbob [n=Curbob@74.10.105.233] has joined #se2600 08:11 <@dc0de> Catonic: now I am 08:11 <@dc0de> http://picasaweb.google.com/don.hood/Hummingbirds#slideshow/5250167276876037314 08:11 <@dc0de> a friend of mine took these pics yesterday 08:12 <@brimstone> i like hummingbirds 08:13 <@dc0de> brimstone: yeah, they are amazing... 08:13 <@dc0de> and I like that he didn't push the shutter speed to stop the blur... those pics are amazing... 08:23 -!- sidusnare [n=fred4@atlanta.national-net.com] has left #se2600 [] 08:27 <@SkyDog_> Morning all. 08:28 * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 08:35 -!- [1]Curbob [n=Curbob@74.10.105.233] has joined #se2600 08:41 <@dc0de> moanin. 08:44 <@SkyDog_> Yo. 08:52 -!- Curbob [n=Curbob@74.10.105.233] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:52 -!- [1]Curbob is now known as Curbob 09:05 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-69-180-225-98.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 09:20 -!- remofor1 [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:24 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:28 -!- remofor1 [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:38 <@Jagobah> drag0n or dementia around? 09:38 <@Dementia> Oddly, I just logged on. 09:39 * oddball wanders off to get some brains... or tea 09:39 <@Dementia> brain tea! 09:39 <@Drag0n> possibly 09:41 <@oddball> By the way, watched Return of the Living Dead 2 last week. I forgot just how cheesey that movie was. 09:44 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:45 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 09:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 09:46 <@Dementia> hey nachoguy ... you know anyone hiring a data specialist/analyst or php/mysql developer? 09:48 <@Jagobah> oh hey 09:48 <@Jagobah> I was reading scrollback from yesterday and you guys were talking about recruitment and stuff 09:49 <@Jagobah> I'm currently working on my resume and I'm drawing some blanks when it comes to previous work history 09:49 <@Dementia> Like, you don't remember where you worked? 09:49 <@Jagobah> Well I do, just have trouble expressing it on a resume 09:50 <@Jagobah> I've had 2 years at a web hosting company, and currently have 3+ years at a medical office 09:50 <@rhia> 09:50 <@rhia> 09:50 <@Jagobah> the hosting company went belly up though 09:50 <@brimstone> 09:50 <@rhia> cats <3 keyboards 09:50 <@rhia> and space keys 09:50 <@Dementia> well then you can tell them anything you want about that one :) 09:50 <@Dementia> rhia: yes, they do. :) Is that the cat formerly known as kitten? 09:51 <@Jagobah> If I were to try to get a job in the networking/admin field though, I wouldn't have any experience :( 09:51 <@rhia> yeah, his favorite napping place is my desk, between me and the keyboard 09:51 <@Jagobah> Even though that's what my college degree is in 09:52 <@Jagobah> So my main question is how do I fill the experience gaps when my job history can't represent it well 09:52 <@nachoguy> Dementia, what are you doing as a data specialist? We have some open positions, so I'm trying to figure out what out equiv would be. 09:52 <@Dementia> Mostly sql reporting, slicing and dicing data, doing some cleanup. I did a lot more at my last job. 09:53 <@Dementia> Jagobah: have you helped with some networking projects? You can put that in as freelance 09:53 <@rhia> Jagobah: gaps: no jobs or school in between, or jobs that don't fit the experience? 09:54 <@Dementia> nachoguy: I'm also doing a good bit of php development now, but I'd rather be in data cleanup/reporting 09:54 <@nachoguy> hrm, we've got some data whorehousing eer, warehousing. I really don't know what they're looking for. We have the ops team that puts together a lot of reports and such about uptime, profitability based on interesting vectors (between certain hours, with a specific department, what percentage of calls do we answer in under 10, 20, 30 and 90 seconds). 09:55 <@Dementia> Huh. sounds interesting 09:55 <@nachoguy> you don't want to be one of our developers though. 09:56 <@Dementia> I'll take your word for it 09:56 <@Dementia> I'm not sure I want to be a developer anywhere, anyway 09:56 <@nachoguy> we're a rails shop 09:57 <@Dementia> ah, ok. They're trying to get me to learn rails here because they won't spend the $$ for an experienced rails person. 09:57 <@nachoguy> and for good or ill, there is more ego crammed into those guys that I would think possible 09:57 <@Dementia> Yeah, there is. 09:57 <@Dementia> They basically look at all my PHP stuff here as inferior, but I can get a project up and running a hell of a lot faster than they can. 09:57 <@nachoguy> I've met egotistical devs before, but nothing on this level. I'm not saying they aren't smart, some are fucking geniuses. They still grate on you though 09:58 <@Dementia> The other PHP guys here and I call it "drinking the rails kool-aid" 09:58 <@nachoguy> how's your postgres-fu? 09:58 <@Dementia> non-existant, I'm afraid 09:59 <@nachoguy> we're a pg shop as well. 09:59 <@nachoguy> if you can do sql, you should be fine though. 09:59 <@Jagobah> Dementia: the biggest networking project I could take part in was setting up a wireless network in the medical office I work at. Not very challenging :( 09:59 <@Dementia> Sql, I got. 09:59 <@Dementia> Jagobah: I don't necessarily mean "at work" 10:00 <@dc0de> "SQL, is what I got, I got, I got, I GOT" 10:00 <@nachoguy> dc0de, sublime? 10:01 <@Jagobah> rhia: the web hosting job involved Server 2k3 and red hat linux, and I had to set up hosting services on both machines. No real network stuff, mostly admin/support, so maybe it's a gap, maybe it's relevant.... not too sure at this point 10:02 <@Jagobah> Dementia: then I really don't have real world experience with networking stuff. I've configured 5 cisco routers in a lab setting as a college assignment, that's it :( 10:02 <@Dementia> Ouch. 10:02 <@rhia> Jagobah: yeah, that's not a lot of 'networking' to work with 10:02 <@rhia> trying for a particular position, or just wanting to break into more network stuff? 10:03 <@Dementia> I really don't know what to tell you there. My best suggestion is to find some kind of non-profit who needs some volunteer tech help setting up a network. Get experience wherever you can. Post on craigslist. 10:03 <@nachoguy> Dementia, why couldn't you have been looking like 2 weeks ago? we had a recruiting event, by which I mean open bar meet and greet. 10:03 <@Jagobah> either or, I'm tired of making $4/hour at this place 10:03 <@Dementia> nachoguy: crap. I really didn't get tipped over the edge until last week. 10:03 <@Jagobah> I've been considering just going back to school for a completely different field 10:03 <@nachoguy> jagobah, roughly where are you? 10:04 <@Jagobah> uhhhh middle of nowhere in western kentucky 10:04 <@Jagobah> went to college in bowling green 10:04 <@Dementia> Jagobah: at this point you may want to find any tech job you can - support or whatever - and then work your way up. And you're going to have to find a better area to do it in. 10:04 <@rhia> try for sysadmin positions that have 2nd or 3rd level support, smaller companies needing a do-it-all admin, that will get you some network exp and pay better 10:04 <@nachoguy> ahh. well, working for a college would be a good move. They have large environments. frequently you can work helpdesk for 6 mo - a year to prove yourself and they'll move you up the chain. 10:05 <@Dementia> That's how i did it... I found a small company and started with data entry, worked my way up to IT manager. 10:05 <@nachoguy> turn over at Unis are fairly common, as most of them don't pay shit 10:05 <@Dolemite> Working for a University is the bomb diggity 10:05 <@nachoguy> yeah, perks are out of this world 10:05 <@nachoguy> when I've looked for jobs, I always check the Unis in the area 10:05 <@Dementia> yeah 10:05 <@rhia> smaller places also tend to move you up faster and require you to do a little bit of just about everything, get resume fillers 10:05 <@Jagobah> here comes another roadblock: I don't know ANYONE that's hiring; should I browse classified ads or post resumes and hope someone reads it? 10:06 <@nachoguy> if you're really hurting, you can post a resume or hit up a head hunter. be careful with that as it could get back to your current place, and they might toss you out. 10:06 <@Dementia> I doubt there's much in the way of headhunting in western KY. 10:07 <@nachoguy> I usually hit up craigslist and the job postings at the National Labs and Unis in the area. 10:07 <@rhia> tweak the resume, NO typos or problems, try the online searches (Monster et al) and look into moving 10:07 <@Jagobah> yeah it's really poor where I live 10:07 <@nachoguy> are you tied to Ky? 10:07 <@nachoguy> honestly something like a jr level gig at the place where Shadow or MaxieZ work would be your best bet to get your hands dirty 10:07 <@Jagobah> I've got $1500 saved up to move, I just don't want to blow it all because I'm not qualified for a job that pays over min. wage 10:08 <@Dementia> you have a college degree, that will help 10:08 <@Jagobah> hmmm 10:08 <@rhia> if you have any tech exp and a degree, you're qualified for more than minimum.... maybe not much more, but definitely more 10:08 <@dc0de> My wife and I are shredding our old documents, and found the bill from my last house, where we had termite damage (and a repair bond, thank God). 10:08 <@dc0de> $29,201.69 was the bill... 10:09 <@nachoguy> damn 10:09 <@tzanger> holy shit 10:09 <@rhia> damn, was the whole house eaten, or was it built of mahogany? 10:10 <@nachoguy> Jagobah, don't move before you get a gig. But if you're not tied to Ky, you can always head down to the 615, 256, or 404 areas for a day or two to take an interview. 10:10 <@dc0de> rhia: no, it was about 1/2 of the house. 10:11 <@rhia> dc0de: we thought about buying a place we rented in atl, but the termite's wanted it worse 10:12 <@rhia> that bill may have been similar, hence no purchase 10:12 <@Jagobah> I'll spend some more time on the resume and look around. You think my old college would still have leads for me from their career advisor? 10:12 <@Dementia> 615 is cheap to live in, but no public transportation, so you'll need a car. 404, you might get by with not having a car. 10:12 <@Jagobah> I'm not sure how that process works 10:13 <@Dolemite> what's your degree in? 10:13 <@rhia> location and layout were good .... come to think of it, nearly bought one here, too, and didn't for the same reason 10:13 <@Jagobah> IT computer networking, cisco track 10:13 <@Dolemite> Oh. 10:13 <@Dolemite> You have an Associates. 10:13 <@Jagobah> it was all I had or I'd go for more 10:13 <@Dolemite> That'll get you in the door 10:13 <@Jagobah> they had 10:14 <@Jagobah> yeah I graduated in 2006, I'm more concerned if they will still give me leads 3 years later or if it's post-graduation only 10:15 <@nachoguy> Jagobah, lots of those places do it "for life" 10:15 <@dc0de> http://picasaweb.google.com/jnoble/OldDocuments#5250348667187401938 10:15 <@Dementia> worth a phone call anyway 10:15 <@nachoguy> it doesn't hurt to ask. only costs you a phone call 10:15 <@rhia> depends on the school and the attitude of the dept .... def worth calling 10:15 <@Dementia> but definitely clean up your resume and put it on the big job search sites, and make it clear you're willing to relocate 10:15 <@Jagobah> oh cool, very reassuring :) 10:15 <@Jagobah> Dementia: cool tip, will try that, thanks 10:17 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 10:22 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has joined #se2600 10:28 < Neoteric> anyone have a good recomendation for a hosting provider? 10:28 < Neoteric> self-manage hosting provider preferably 10:29 <@brimstone> like a vps? 10:29 <@brimstone> or a shared web host? 10:29 <@nachoguy> Neoteric, so you want a place that proveds rackspace or a cage, power, and AC? 10:29 <@nachoguy> eer provides 10:29 < Neoteric> nachoguy: I want a guy that will rent me a box in a rack 10:29 <@nachoguy> oh, way different 10:30 <@nachoguy> actually, I may know a guy 10:30 <@nachoguy> you have specs for what you want/need? 10:30 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 10:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 10:30 <@Dementia> Neoteric: one of the guys here at work loves mediatemple.net 10:30 <@dc0de> Neoteric: talk to MaxieZ. 10:31 <+MaxieZ> I use nac.net 10:31 <+MaxieZ> However, they're raising their prices 10:31 <+MaxieZ> There's a company in this building that's cheap and decent 10:32 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 10:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 10:32 <+MaxieZ> It's called cyber works, but they're spelled differently 10:33 < Neoteric> MaxieZ: url 10:33 <+MaxieZ> http://www.cyberwurx.com/ 10:34 <+MaxieZ> They're pretty good if you just want to be up and left alone. If you're looking for managed support that's another thing entirely. 10:35 < Neoteric> MaxieZ: that sounds great 10:36 < Neoteric> arethey hosting off of internap? 10:36 <+MaxieZ> I'm pretty sure they connect to telx here in Atl instead of internap. I'll get you their peering in a sec 10:37 <+MaxieZ> http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/22/AS22653.htm 10:37 <+MaxieZ> So they're off GlobalCompass 10:38 < Neoteric> w00t! 10:41 <@GodFix> seeblind: ping 10:42 <+MaxieZ> Neoteric: You may want to find someone off MaeEast though...we have to go up there for your DC needs 10:42 <+MaxieZ> So geographically, you may come out better with a web host in va. 10:43 < Neoteric> MaxieZ: yeah I'm trying to find one. it's hard 10:44 <@ShadowHntr> verio.com or joyent.com are good ones too 10:44 <@Dolemite> We're in the process of bringing up our 10 Gbps link to SOX in Atlanta. That'll be a fun time to download. :) 10:44 <@ShadowHntr> yikes 10:44 <@dc0de> Dolemite: Counter-Strike Server? 10:45 <@Dolemite> Of course, it already takes more time to burn a DVD image than it takes to download it. 10:45 <@Dolemite> dc0de : You think too small 10:45 <@Dolemite> Star Wars Galaxies Emulator!%@ Muahahahahaha 10:46 <+MaxieZ> Dolemite: bit torrenting the MGM collection? 10:46 <@Dolemite> Nah, I'm talking about OS iso's 10:46 <+MaxieZ> SURE...that's what they all say 10:46 <@Dolemite> I have pretty much all fo the MGM collection that I'm interested in on DVD 10:47 <+MaxieZ> That's not the point...information needs to be free yo! 10:48 <@Dolemite> I agree. That's why I freed two more DVDs of Thomas the Train from their DVD format to put onto my home network last night... and to play in the car... and to take to Granny's house... 10:48 <+MaxieZ> How old is Dolemite 2.0 now? 10:49 <@brimstone> who uses isos anymore? 10:49 <+MaxieZ> My son is in love with this show called Bunnytown and he can't even talk 10:49 <@brimstone> pxe boot's the wya to go 10:49 -!- dc0de [n=jnoble@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:49 <@Dolemite> 2.0 will be 3 in November. 2.3 is due on Mother's Day. 10:49 <+MaxieZ> Oh crap...congrats 10:49 <@Dementia> There's a 2.3 coming? 10:49 <@Dementia> o.O 10:49 <@Dolemite> yep 10:49 <@brimstone> sounds like someone needs to get a job... 10:49 <@Dementia> Congrats :) 10:50 <@Dolemite> It's our last attempt at a release 10:50 <@Dolemite> 2.1 and 2.2 were failed releases :( 10:50 <@Dementia> Sorry to hear it. 10:50 <@Dolemite> I'm getting the old snipperoo over the holidays 10:50 <@brimstone> good code isn't released, it escapes 10:50 <+MaxieZ> I wish we'd had more vaporware between you me and...well the channel. 10:50 <@Dolemite> So you can give me frozen peas for a Christmas gift 10:50 <@brimstone> Dolemite: i retract my job comment then 10:52 <+MaxieZ> Anyone ever heard of scratch...it's supposed to be a programming language for kids 10:53 <@Dolemite> And let me tell ya... nothing takes the fun out of sex like turning it into a job. I thought I had learned that back when I was a gigolo, but trying for a baby was worse. 10:54 <@Dolemite> anywho, I have an employee celebration thing to go to... one of the people that works for me is celebrating her 30th anniversary with the University 10:54 <+MaxieZ> Nice 10:55 <+MaxieZ> http://scratch.mit.edu/about 10:57 <+MaxieZ> That's pretty cool. 10:57 <+MaxieZ> Though I'm sure only applicable to a few of us 10:58 <@nachoguy> some of our devlopers have the mentality of 4 year olds. It might work here 10:58 <@Dementia> There's something called Alice, too 10:59 <@Dementia> http://www.alice.org/ 11:00 <+MaxieZ> nachoguy: Yeah I'm so putting that on my resume 11:02 <+MaxieZ> Dementia: I see it's Carnegie Mellon vs. MIT 11:15 <@Dementia> appears that way 11:20 -!- Curbob [n=Curbob@74.10.105.233] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:27 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 11:45 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: you there? 12:09 <@Evilpig> yes 12:10 < eryc> can you run tomcat on these cyberwurx vps? 12:11 <@coil_> how do you put the tags on fm radio 12:15 <@critch> what do you mean by tags? 12:15 <@coil_> like in new cars 12:15 <@critch> oh, the info that the stations decides to play 12:15 < eryc> RDS? 12:15 <@coil_> they have the radio station id, current song 12:16 < eryc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System 12:16 <@critch> I don't remember the tech, but I know there is a device you just feed info to. Guy over at 102.9 showed me his perl script that does it. 12:16 <@coil_> so you dont have buy something 12:16 <@aestetix> god 12:16 <@aestetix> The Katie Couric interview is actually worse. 12:17 <@Dolemite> Putin's raring his head! 12:17 <@Dolemite> er, rearing 12:18 <@aestetix> Is it really possible for someone to be this dumb? 12:18 <@Catonic> strages: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7637257.stm 12:21 <@coil_> critch: do you know what it's called? 12:22 <@Dementia> I can't tell if she's dumb or evil. I'm leaning towards evil. 12:22 <@rhia> Dementia: i don't think one precludes the other, i opt for dumb, but cagey, and evil 12:23 < vyrus001> huh? 12:23 <@critch> coil_: I think eryc has it with RDS 12:23 <@critch> coil_: the perl script my friend was using just fed data to the RDS system. 12:24 <@Dementia> rhia: probably right 12:25 <@coil_> word 12:26 <@rhia> Dementia: she got the governorship via annointment from a kenyan evangelist, she's got gawd on her side! 12:26 * Dementia cringes 12:27 <@Dolemite> *and* she's protected from witchcraft! 12:27 <@Dementia> I heard about that. 12:28 <@Dementia> Witch hunts, anyone? 12:28 <@rhia> that man has caused more women to be hunted, harmed, hurt, tortured and/or killed under the name of god .... and she thinks he's just wonderful 12:29 <@Dementia> which man? 12:29 <@Catonic> rhia: you know what I say to that? 12:29 <@rhia> Dementia: yeah, as in real, live, actual hunting witches, not McCarthyism 12:29 <@Catonic> praise allah. 12:29 <@rhia> Dementia: Muthee 12:29 <@Dementia> ah, ok 12:30 <@rhia> the kenyan evangelist 12:30 <@Dementia> I was confused for a second since I hadn't heard about McCain burning anyone at the stake lately. 12:30 <@Dagmar> He juse eats them 12:30 <@Catonic> I'm cold. Throw another Christian on the fire. 12:30 <@rhia> Catonic: if she'd been annointed by a muslim, don't you think the country would be up in arms over it? 12:31 <@rhia> Dementia: naw, mccain's not up to burning stakes yet, didn't you catch the clip from The View? he's still just burning steaks 12:32 * rhia ducks 12:32 <@Dementia> hehe 12:32 <+MaxieZ> You know...if it weren't for witches there wouldn't be witch hunts 12:32 <@rhia> MaxieZ and if it weren't for snipes, there'd be no snipe hunts, either 12:33 <+MaxieZ> Exactly 12:33 <+MaxieZ> Kill them all and close the whole thing down 12:34 <@Catonic> you know, if it wasn't for non-consenting women, there'd be no rape. 12:34 <+MaxieZ> Catonic: Good point as well 12:34 <+MaxieZ> If there were no people there'd be no murder. 12:35 <@nachoguy> http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=080826 12:35 <@Dolemite> Well just so you know, apparently Wasilla is a bastion of godlessness. My sister and her husband are currently up there on a mission trip for their church. 12:36 <@nachoguy> "you can cure an infection by killing the patient, but some other jerk will just get a cold anyway. ... kill everyone" 12:36 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: thx for doing your part in the "no people" solution byw. 12:36 <@Catonic> *btw 12:36 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:37 <+MaxieZ> Catonic: I'm working on it....want to play a game? 12:37 <@Catonic> Sure... 12:37 * MaxieZ was making a wargames reference 12:37 <@Catonic> you pick the game, I'll pick the weapon. Then you go first 12:38 <@nachoguy> Global thermonuclear war 12:39 <@Catonic> I was hoping for russian roulette 12:40 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has joined #se2600 12:42 <@nachoguy> anyone familiar with paetec? 12:43 <@oddball> KILL! 12:43 <@oddball> I mean... yes... 12:43 <@nachoguy> that bad, eh? 12:43 <@oddball> pretty bad 12:44 <@oddball> Of course, we're coming off of 2+ weeks of shitty QoS partly because the OC12 between Atlanta and Nashville was bouncing all over the place. 12:45 <@nachoguy> yeah, I got that feeling. They cold called our new CEO, who told them we'd consider their promotional material to get them off the phone. It then got passed down the line to me. 12:45 <@nachoguy> I'm not impressed with their shiny powerpoints. 12:46 <@nachoguy> ah, the oc-12 that they own/operate and then run your traffic over? 12:46 <@oddball> yes 12:46 <@oddball> Tell him that you know a guy that wishes to set them on fire. 12:46 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:46 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has joined #se2600 12:46 <@nachoguy> other than Giant outage number 1, any other issues 12:47 <@rhia> Dementia: yeah, the dominionists and a handful of other evangelicalistic types have been moving to that area of alaska for the last decade .... 12:47 <@oddball> we've constantly had QoS issues since we've signed on with them. A large part of that is that we do VOIP, so we notice shit more, but... 12:48 <@Dementia> rhia: there's yet another reason for me not to move there. 12:48 <@nachoguy> well, that rules them out for mw 12:48 <@nachoguy> eer, me 12:48 <@oddball> If you have problems, you will not get a follow up call on trouble tickets that you open... 12:52 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:52 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:54 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has joined #se2600 12:58 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:59 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has joined #se2600 13:01 < eryc> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/images/26Sep_Friday_WSJ.JPG 13:01 < eryc> mccain wins! 13:05 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:05 -!- vyrus001 [n=vyrus@h-74-1-176-131.lsanca54.covad.net] has joined #se2600 13:06 <@Dementia> um, what? 13:06 <@Dementia> what's this? 13:06 <@Dagmar> A bit premature, aside from completely looney, is what it is. 13:06 <@rhia> paid for by McCain/Palin 2008 ;) 13:06 <@Dementia> hah 13:06 <@Dementia> ok lunch now 13:07 < eryc> http://www.penissizedebate.com/images/doc/penis_size_preference_chart1.gif 13:07 < eryc> http://www.comicvsaudience.net/images/flow_sex.jpg 13:07 <@rhia> http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=182423 long, but worth it 13:12 < Neoteric> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7637811.stm 13:12 -!- [1]AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has joined #se2600 13:12 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:12 -!- [1]AstralSin is now known as AstralSin 13:14 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 13:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 13:16 <@critch> http://www.daveramsey.com/etc/fed_bailout/economic_cleanup_10887.htmlc 13:19 <@Dagmar> Interesting 13:26 < eryc> http://thismight.be/offensive/uploads/2008/09/25/image/244087_[kitty]%20Cat%20hammock.jpg 13:28 -!- eryc was kicked from #se2600 by Catonic [flag your links as nsfw] 13:29 <@brimstone> the domain "thismight.be/offensive" didn't give it away? 13:29 <@coil_> wtf 13:29 <@coil_> it wasn't nsfw 13:29 <@coil_> it was kitty in hammack 13:29 <@Drag0n> well, i dont see anything offensive in the image 13:30 <@Dagmar> I'm with coil 13:30 <@rhia> critch: interesting, but far too simplistic and still leaves the issue of the ballooned value/devalue .... and guaranteeing them might cost even more, could be trillions more, if they do fail .... and we/US/taxpayers are left paying for what we 'guaranteed' 13:30 <@Dagmar> The URL seemed pretty damn clear to me 13:30 * Drag0n things cataonic owes someone an apology 13:30 <@coil_> we the jury find Catonic guilty 13:30 <@coil_> of unlawful kicking on a retard 13:31 <@Drag0n> he may deserve being kicked, but not for this situation 13:31 <@critch> rhia: I still think guaranteeing taxpayers homes is better than buying potentially worthless paper from banks. 13:31 <@Dagmar> rhia: If we're left paying for the extended insurance, that means someone lost their home 13:31 <@rhia> if that image is offensive, then our house is XXX extreme 13:31 <@rhia> Dagmar: i know 13:31 <@Drag0n> all the naked pussy running around the house 13:32 <@Dagmar> rhia: By and large I think doing something to help people keep those homes and make their payments would be better than handing those companies money for being idiots 13:32 <@coil_> Drag0n: Catonic might of been talking about a previous link though 13:33 <@coil_> not the last one 13:33 <@rhia> Dagmar: don't disagree, but just changing that one rule won't do anything BUT keep some people in their houses, it won't touch the rest of the issue 13:33 <@Dagmar> Maybe give them all six credits for missing a payment, so they can skip a few to get caught up without being penalized (which doesn't very well help) if they get behind 13:33 <@critch> rhia: not to mention it benefits taxpayers directly and not as "trickle down", I'm tired of the yellow and brown trickle I keep seeing. 13:33 <@Drag0n> possibly, but i dont see any that have been NSFW, some may be in poor taste, but they all were SFW 13:33 <@rhia> and if the issues aren't dealt with, then more and more houses will be 'guaranteed' at more and more taxpayer cost 13:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah. pouring money into those compnies is definitely a trickler 13:33 <@Dagmar> huh? no. 13:33 <@rhia> critch: understood 13:34 <@coil_> "sfw" is debatble 13:34 <@coil_> at diff jobs 13:34 <@Drag0n> how about applying the intrest cap to mortgages as well as credit cards? 13:34 -!- eryc [n=eric@gibson.mirrorshades.net] has joined #se2600 13:35 <@critch> you also know that by extending the insurance, we also may well not pay for many of the properties we are being asked to right now. 13:35 < eryc> Catonic: you are stupid. kthx 13:35 <@rhia> just saying that ramseys idea ALONE isn't effective and can, by ignoring the rest of the issues, lead to even MORE money needed to be poured in 13:35 <@Dagmar> Frankyl I think Ramsey's idea is a bad one, but I'm still thinking about it 13:35 <@critch> For instance, I think my mortgage could well be considered sub prime. It is in no risk of being forclosed on, but it could be part of those worthless pieces of paper we are about to buy. 13:36 <@Drag0n> the republican plans all look at postponing the issue till the next administration is in office, while he Dem plans at least attempt to solve the root of the problem 13:36 <@rhia> it's not just a mortgage issue, it's also the unregulated marketed selling debt wholesale, kickbacks, shortsells for gross overhead gains that become bonuses not profits, etc etc etc etc 13:37 <@critch> I have issues with the stopping of the short sells. I understand how it hurts, but it is a market force. 13:38 <@Dagmar> It's that they have to mark-to-market that keeps them from going nuts with junk 13:38 <@critch> Dagmar: I agree with that not being the real problem. I don't want to artificially change the market 13:39 <@rhia> the swedes went thru a fall 15 yrs ago, came out even stronger, but they were ruthless .... give us the bottom lines, no bonuses, we sit on your ass until you make a profit again, then we sell back to you what we bought - and the taxpayers savings are secured up front and the expenditure has already been paid back 13:39 <@rhia> critch: note the unregulated at the beginning of that long line 13:41 <@rhia> how many houses would not have been foreclosed on if debt wasn't bought for inflated prices to give even one CEO a $75million bonus? 13:42 <@critch> rhia: the fun of that is they are regulated, it is just another example of the head cop of the country not forcing people to enforce laws. 13:42 <@rhia> some is, like insider trading, a lot hasn't been since `\99 13:42 <@critch> rhia: I have a hard time convincing me that a person not able to make home payments to the selling of the debt to someone else. 13:43 <@critch> The selling of debt just confused buyers as to what it was they were buying 13:43 <@rhia> it's a huge, convoluted house of cards, individual mortgages are just one part of one side 13:45 <@rhia> and between 7-10% is 'bad' (as in, taken out in bad faith via buyer or unscrupulous frontline brokers) mortgages, the rest is market speculation and unmitigated greed at wallstreet levels 13:47 < nated0g_wrk> afternoon all 13:49 <@rhia> home buyers knew they were taking on debt, 3rd level inflated mortgages bundled then sliced into debt package buyers knew they were buying debt betting on inflated prices continuing to climb .... it's a gamble 13:49 <@oddball> I've already asked critch this, but anyone have a data center in Nashville that they could recommend? 13:49 <@rhia> and every real gambler knows you can't win all the time 13:49 < nated0g_wrk> im going to stop paying my house note too! 13:49 < nated0g_wrk> let yall pick up the tab 13:51 <@rhia> buying a house is buying an asset and taking on debt, what wall street was doing was just buying the debt, not the assets 13:51 <@critch> Oh and further CDS makes it worse, and further into why I don't like the bailing out the bankers. 13:52 <@critch> As I understand the CDS, it is insurance on those mortgage backed securities, So if we start buying them, if the mortgages fail, we pay bankers for them. 13:54 < nated0g_wrk> so CDs are going to be worthless? 13:54 <@critch> CDS == Credit Default Swaps 13:54 < nated0g_wrk> oh thought u were referring to certificates of deposit 13:55 <@rhia> well, to keep a run off the commercial banks, the investment banks need some aid ... worst deregulation was in letting commercial banks become/act like investment banks .... that's a largish part of the issue right there 13:57 <@rhia> so, to shore up one, the other has to get some too .... but the pure investment banks need some serious overhauling ... and if we give them money, we damn sure should get resell-able assets in return for OUR investment in them 13:57 <@rhia> just throwing money at them is .... criminally ridiculous 13:58 <@critch> See that is why I think any money to them is a failure. We need to send the money to the owner occupied mortgages and let the investment banks suffer. 13:58 <@tzanger> rhia: our banks in canada are combination banks 13:58 <@ShadowHntr> oddball: www.peak10.com/nashville 13:58 <@rhia> safeguards, assets, major ass spankings &/or jail time, mortgage relief... all need to be looked into 13:58 <@tzanger> we do not have the "this is a conventional bank" "this is an investment bank" that you do 13:59 <@rhia> bet they handle things like CDS etc a bit differently, tho ... if not, line up ;) 14:01 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@75.143.154.122] has joined #se2600 14:01 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@75.143.154.122] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 14:02 <@rhia> the investment banks also see a lot of money market accounts, etc which is where a lot of regular people have large chunks of their savings 14:02 <@tzanger> yes our mortgage system is quite ... tight... compared to what yours was 14:04 <@rhia> they start to fail, people run to get their money out (like many did to WaMu), then you can snowball into a sheeple panic where everyone cashes out they're accounts making the situation even worse 14:04 <@rhia> their accounts 14:05 <@rhia> and haven't even touched on the other side, the exorbitantly inflated, grossly profitable credit side 14:06 <@rhia> or the foreign involvement and how that bit ties in, or .... just dayham 14:15 -!- [1]AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has joined #se2600 14:15 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:15 -!- [1]AstralSin is now known as AstralSin 14:18 <@rhia> gotta luv the american business mentality - to hell with long term, lets make as much profit as we can this quarter! screw that slow and steady growth stuff, we want big returns NOW! 14:21 <@Drag0n> thanks to the "take the money and run" mentality that is big busness 14:30 <@Catonic> rhia: it's the same reason why guy want a girl that weighs 115, is 6' tall, and has breasts the size of basketballs. 14:31 <@critch> Catonic: that isn't true for all of us. I for one wouldn't mind the breasts being a bit smaller, and she would have to eat a few sandwhiches at 115 to make me happy. I'd be afraid of breaking her. 14:32 <@nachoguy> hrm, at 115, and 6', I think the breasts would have to make up a third of her body weight. 14:32 <@Catonic> http://failblog.org/2008/09/25/police-fail-2/ 14:36 <@rhia> nachoguy: and make the rest of her unable to walk upright unaided ;) 14:38 <@Catonic> who cares. 14:40 <@aestetix> Catonic: would you fuck anyone from se2600? 14:41 <@Catonic> aestetix: only you babe. 14:41 <@aestetix> oh god. 14:41 <@Shadow404> Catonic: you would have 14:41 <@aestetix> I feel lucky. 14:42 <@aestetix> Wow, Palin is *way* better in the Sean Hannity interview. 14:42 <@aestetix> It's obvious she got prep. 14:42 <@Catonic> aestetix: does she swallow? 14:42 <@Shadow404> i'd do her on the milf level 14:42 <@aestetix> Shadow404: when do I get to do scotchick? 14:42 <@Shadow404> how about never 14:43 <@aestetix> Bring her to PhreakNIC 14:43 <@Catonic> aestetix: the closest you'll get to that is fucking shadow in the ass while he fucks her. 14:43 <@Shadow404> aestetix: heh, sad sad lonely man 14:45 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:04 -!- mooo [n=moo@m0000000.m000.org] has joined #se2600 15:04 < mooo> moooooooooooooooooooooo 15:06 <@Catonic> down ware. 15:06 < mooo> bahhh bahh black sheep 15:06 < mooo> bahhhhhhhhh meansss nooooooooooo Catonic 15:06 -!- mooo [n=moo@m0000000.m000.org] has quit [Client Quit] 15:06 -!- Falun [n=falun@lawn-128-61-121-192.lawn.gatech.edu] has quit ["Leaving..."] 15:38 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 15:53 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:53 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 15:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Cynefrid] by ChanServ 15:56 <@Catonic> http://tinyurl.com/4szybb 15:56 <@Catonic> ^ funny, sad, and true. 15:59 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:00 <@oddball> ok, so I can now say I hate Cisco APs. 16:00 <@Drag0n> you can always say that, its your personal veiw 16:01 <@Catonic> I just want to be held. 16:01 <@oddball> Won't do WPA without a RADIUS server, doesn't do passphrase WEP, won't let me see what I'm typing when I enter the WEP hex key in case I fuck it up... 16:02 <@Catonic> and if you try to use 802.11x, it goes EAP when you PEAP. 16:02 <@Dagmar> Paste it in 16:02 <@Drag0n> try command line, i was able to do all of those on the 1200's we had 16:02 <@Dagmar> The answer to the problem with WPA is FreeRADIUS actually. 16:02 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:02 <@oddball> Dagmar: yeah, that's what I'm doing... it's just irritating that I have to do that. 16:03 <@Drag0n> set up wpa personal, not enterprise 16:03 <@Dagmar> You sure about that Drag0n? 16:03 <@Dagmar> THis isn't the first time I've heard someone with this complaint about Cisco APs 16:03 <@Catonic> no, you can't do that 16:03 <@Drag0n> thats how we set it up and we had no radius servers 16:03 <@oddball> Drag0n: not an option 16:03 <@Drag0n> what model? 16:03 <@Catonic> if you're an enterprise user, you have to use enterprise. 16:04 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 16:04 <@oddball> 1130AG 16:04 <@Catonic> if you use personal and you're a business, the fcc will show up and cane your ass with rolled up McCain campaign flyers. 16:05 <@Drag0n> hold on 16:05 <@coil_> y 16:06 <@oddball> Oh, and there's also the annoyance with the obscuring the WEP key of if you lose your documentation, your only solution is to reset the key. 16:06 <@Dagmar> Obscuring? 16:06 <@oddball> Since, to see the config page, you have to be on the network and know the admin password to get into the unit, what's the point of obscuring it? 16:07 <@oddball> showing dots instead of the actual characters 16:07 <@Dagmar> Are you talking about when nyou put in a text WEP "password" and it turns it into that obnoxious hex string? 16:07 <@Drag0n> WPA2-Personal?WPA2 authentication with a preshared key. WPA2-Personal is suitable for environments without a Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service (RADIUS) infrastructure (for example, a small office or home office network). WPA2-Personal supports the use of a preshared key (PSK).Obtain the preshared key from your system administrator. When you choose WPA2-Personal as your security type, your encryption type is TKIP or AES 16:07 <@oddball> I would be happy if it would do the password, but that's not an option either 16:07 <@Dagmar> oddball: Nothing called a password should ever be echoed visibly to a terminal so that someone can shoulder-surf it is why 16:07 <@Drag0n> nothing about regulations in that 16:07 <@Catonic> mmm... 16:08 <@Drag0n> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/wlan_adapter/cb21ag/user/vista/1.0/configuration/guide/profile_config.html#wp1000095 16:08 <@Catonic> you can shouldersurf without reading the screen. 16:08 <@Dagmar> Not if people type their passwords with their nose 16:08 <@Dagmar> ...or their tongues. 16:08 <@Drag0n> personal referes to authentication without raduis 16:08 <@Drag0n> radius 16:10 <@oddball> ok, still not an option on this unit from what I can find. 16:14 <@oddball> I guess I'll have to build a linux box for the server room to run FreeRADIUS. I'm not going to deal with people trying to punch in hex keys when they want to use wireless. 16:15 <@Drag0n> does the 1100 have a console port? 16:15 <@oddball> yeah 16:15 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:18 <@Drag0n> try configuring some of this from the command line 16:27 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has left #se2600 [] 16:30 <@critch> can anyone think of the problems of 2 machines sharing the same ssh key? 16:31 <@critch> I have 2 machines in a cluster, one is primary and the other secondary. They have a third IP that if I log into I know I am on the primary at the time I try to log in to it. 16:32 <@critch> I just had ssh whine because I had failed the primary yesterday and hadn't logged in since then. If they both share the ssh key, ssh shouldn't bitch about who I am loggin into. 16:47 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:47 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 16:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Cynefrid] by ChanServ 16:58 -!- nated0g_wrk [i=nated0g@river191.bigriver.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:00 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:01 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:01 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:12 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:16 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Cynefrid] by ChanServ 17:24 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:29 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:29 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:32 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 17:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 17:48 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:48 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:49 <@Evilpig> phone guys fail 17:49 <@Evilpig> can't make calls between the buildings 17:49 <@Evilpig> well we can make calls as in the phone will ring but you can't hear a voice 17:50 <@brimstone> no audio or one way audio? 17:51 <@Evilpig> one way audio at first. now no audio except for pressing the buttons. which he says are on a separate channel 17:51 <@brimstone> there's 5 different ways to send dtmf across sip 17:51 <@Evilpig> he tried to blame my firewall. I quickly corrected him 17:51 <@brimstone> so, sure, it could be on the signally out of band 17:51 <@brimstone> firewall or router is broken 17:52 <@Evilpig> my firewall is my router and it isn't blcoking anything 17:52 <@brimstone> some firewall 17:52 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 17:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 17:52 <@Evilpig> windows firewall on his call servers 17:52 <@Evilpig> hate windows firewall 17:52 <@tcstool> Amen to that 17:52 <@brimstone> your phone servers run on windows? 17:52 <@Evilpig> [root@firewall ~]# route 17:52 <@Evilpig> Kernel IP routing table 17:52 <@Evilpig> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 17:52 <@Evilpig> 192.168.100.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 17:52 <@Evilpig> 192.168.101.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 17:52 <@Evilpig> 192.168.99.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 17:52 <@Evilpig> 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 17:52 <@Evilpig> 208.44.252.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 17:52 <@Evilpig> link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 17:52 <@Evilpig> default 208.44.252.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 17:53 <@Evilpig> trying to connect from 101 to 99 17:53 <@brimstone> ew 17:53 <@Evilpig> and I have a rule to allow all traffic on eth1 17:55 <@tcstool> Altigens run on Windows XP embedded and it's so awful 17:56 <@Evilpig> not xp. it's 2003 17:56 <@Evilpig> but yeah altigen 17:56 <@brimstone> ew 17:56 <@brimstone> get some asterisk up in there 17:56 <@Evilpig> wasn't my call 17:56 <@Evilpig> I wanted asterisk but couldn't get anyone to price it out, install it, support it 18:00 <@Evilpig> I think I just solved it 18:00 <@Evilpig> the phones needed a gateway set. they aren't passing the call directly through the server like they are supposed to 18:00 <@tcstool> really? 18:00 <@tcstool> The old altigens we put in used XP 18:01 <@tcstool> That's at least better they switched to server 2003 18:01 <@Evilpig> it is 2003 for sure 18:01 <@tcstool> Oh I'm not arguing with you 18:01 <@Evilpig> once all this shit is setup and working i'll get pics and write some stuff up to show the massive project i've been on 18:01 <@tcstool> Cool! 18:02 <@Evilpig> will try to show SkyDog_ and ladymerlin tomorrow or sunday. the bits of it that are working now at least 18:02 <@tcstool> that's good 18:02 <@tcstool> if you do get stuck I may be able to help, I was in on quite a few altigen installs over the past few years 18:02 <@Evilpig> this company we aquired is an altigen something or other which is half the reason we did altigen. 18:03 <@Evilpig> might take my phone home tonight and see if it works from there or not 18:03 <@Evilpig> it's supposed to 18:08 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTR5uFVtgnw 18:09 <@tcstool> I used to use mine from home quite a bit 18:09 <@tcstool> you have a VPN? 18:10 <@Evilpig> we'll have a vpn from our MO office back to here but from the other office across town to here it's just a vlan 18:11 -!- Tuttle| [n=NA@c-68-53-16-218.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:12 <@tcstool> I meant fromy our house 18:12 < eryc> my toiley has a vpn 18:12 < eryc> i poop out packets all the time 18:17 <@ShadowHntr> lucky you. 18:23 <@rhia> http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/26/durbin-iraq-economy/#comment-5253110 now, there's a plan i like 18:26 <@Evilpig> if this isn't about digging a large pit and setting alot of people on fire I will be severely disappointed 18:27 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 18:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 18:28 <@Dagmar> I like Wilpig's plan better 18:30 < eryc> http://dekku.blogspot.com/2008/09/ark.html 18:38 <@ladymerlin> Evilpig: whats your address 18:49 <@Dagmar> Wow. Ugliest mask ever seen in WoW http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/09/24/elunes-ire-isnt-pretty/ 18:51 < eryc> http://labs.google.com/gaudi?q=lipstick 19:03 < eryc> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/09/visualizing_with_salt.html 19:05 <@Catonic> Awesome. I think I just got sexually harrassed. 19:05 * Catonic high fives anyone with a working hand. 19:05 <@ShadowHntr> ? 19:05 <@Catonic> ShadowHntr: you'll understand when you're older. 19:06 <@ShadowHntr> heh. :P 19:20 <@Evilpig> 1402 hughes st murray, ky 42071 19:30 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [No route to host] 19:32 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: what was the name of that Brazilian steakhouse in ATL you were talking about before Outerzone? 19:32 -!- Falun [n=falun@lawn-128-61-121-192.lawn.gatech.edu] has joined #se2600 19:33 -!- Falun is now known as Guest32775 19:35 -!- [1]AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has joined #se2600 19:36 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:36 -!- [1]AstralSin is now known as AstralSin 19:37 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit [" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 19:37 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 19:37 <@dc0de> wtf is wrong with comcast? 19:37 <@dc0de> polerin: fix my shit please? !!!? 19:38 <@dc0de> the cable tv down here is all choppy, broken, and losing sync 19:38 <@Dagmar> Call 'em up and schedule an appointment 19:38 <@Catonic> dc0de: it's comcastic? 19:38 <@dc0de> yeah, Dagmar, that'll take a few weeks. 19:41 <@dc0de> anything under channel 40 is hosed... all chopped up 19:42 <@dc0de> whoa, now it's fixed... that's odd. 19:42 <@Dagmar> Channel 40? 19:42 <@Dagmar> Like, TV channel 40? 19:42 <@Catonic> 319MHz... 19:42 <@dc0de> like cable channel 40 19:42 <@Dagmar> You have line problems. Call now. 19:42 <@Catonic> I think that's interference from a MILCOM source 19:42 <@dc0de> no, I don't have any problems now... 19:43 <@Dagmar> If you're lucky it'll only take a week 19:43 <@dc0de> it's all clear. 19:43 <@Dagmar> So what 19:43 <@Dagmar> If the video is screwing up occasionally, and the modem is dropping out, then you have a line problem. Time to get them to fixor it. 19:43 <@dc0de> the modem isn't dropping out. 19:43 * Catonic drops the modem out the window 19:43 <@dc0de> it's just the TV channels on the set top box 19:44 <@Dagmar> I'm paying about $1/month extra so I don't have to give a shit whose equipment is at fault. They don't charge me for a visit. 19:45 <@dc0de> I don't get charged for visits... 19:45 <@Dagmar> Somehow this has the magical result of having their technicians never say "Your problem is your cablemodem. You should go buy a new one. Bye." 19:46 <@dc0de> my cable modem isn't the problem, this is a problem with the set top boxes...and the signal coming in for the Television... there is no issue with the internet connection. 19:55 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 19:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 19:55 -!- tcstool_ [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 19:55 -!- tcstool_ [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:06 <@Dagmar> Whine whine whine 20:06 <@Dagmar> Way to fail, McCain! 20:06 <@dc0de> wine? 20:07 <@dc0de> oh, you're watching the debate. 20:07 <@dc0de> I'm watching "how it's made" 20:15 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:15 < AstralSin> im installing fedora 20:20 <@Catonic> http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff32/Fighton4/ucla130.jpg 20:20 <@Catonic> may not be nsfw 20:20 <@Catonic> may be nsfw 20:20 < AstralSin> mmmmm 20:22 <@dc0de> mmmm, safe for me. 20:22 <@dc0de> oh, yeah, I'm out of work... :) 20:24 <@Catonic> dc0de: get back out on that street corner! 20:24 <@dc0de> Catonic: my feet hurt dammit! 20:29 < nated0g> congrats on the job dc0de 20:30 <@dc0de> nated0g: yeah, if it was only that easy. 20:31 < nated0g> oh just saw u updated on linkedin 20:31 < nated0g> im drinking octoberfest by sam adams 20:31 < nated0g> also got tomorrows pay for a friend to help me change fluids in the axles 20:31 < nated0g> 18 pack of bush camo can beer 20:31 < nated0g> busch 20:34 -!- arafatm [n=arafatm@c-69-245-46-249.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:36 < mubix> sup dc0de 20:36 < mubix> wassup nated0g 20:52 <@Catonic> pisser. 20:52 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@168.28.136.17] has joined #se2600 20:53 <@Catonic> noxfu is/was in town and I didn't get a chance to crash his show. 20:53 <@Catonic> such is the life of an IT geek. 20:57 -!- Guest32775 is now known as Falun 20:58 -!- Falun is now known as Falun|lab 21:00 -!- geoffscoffee [n=geoff@c-76-18-176-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:01 < geoffscoffee> evenin 21:01 <@Dagmar> Sign up for MySpace and he'll bombard you with info about everything he goes to 21:02 <@Catonic> Yes, I am stalking noxfu. 21:02 <@Catonic> He just doesn't yet know what I know: That we are destined to be together forever and ever. 21:03 <@Dagmar> Well then you definitely want to be his MySpace friend. 21:03 <@Dagmar> Sad. 21:03 <@Dagmar> McCain just misused the word "existential" 21:04 * dc0de shudders when he hears "Myspace Friend" run together. 21:04 <@Catonic> something about having never thrown a digital camera away means that I have a nice little collection of cameras, both USB and serial, with which to rig my apartment with. 21:06 < cwire> i'm surprised the little guys with the defibrillator haven't come in to start McCain back up again 21:06 <@dc0de> /shun cwire 21:07 < cwire> he IS old, though 21:09 <@Dagmar> Perhaps if they were to zap him once or twice he would stop wandering off topic 21:09 <@Dagmar> In the meantime, Zero Punctuation says, "Hitler was right". 21:09 < cwire> ooh bam, obama got "achmadenijad" first try 21:10 <@rattle> thinkprogress.org is pushing out a steady 100Mbit of webpages right now.. 21:11 <@Dagmar> Sweet 21:13 < geoffscoffee> nice 21:13 <@dc0de> The new Stargate Atlantis is on... 21:15 <@brimstone> ... my dvr! 21:19 <@coil> 21:24 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 21:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 21:32 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-193-132.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:34 < geoffscoffee> I just don't find the debates interesting 21:34 < geoffscoffee> I wanna hear Palin and Biden sniping at each other 21:34 < geoffscoffee> is that so wrong? 21:35 < AstralSin> i just wanna see Palin stripping 21:35 < AstralSin> is that so wrong? 21:37 < AstralSin> the beer i'm drinking smells and tastes exactly like summer sausage 21:39 < geoffscoffee> I was with you there, kinda till the sausage. That's Corydon's areana 21:39 < AstralSin> hey, i like pork, just not man-pork 21:39 < AstralSin> but i'm not big on summer sausage 21:39 < AstralSin> so this beer is kinda meh for me 21:39 < AstralSin> well made but just not my thing 21:40 < geoffscoffee> what is the beer? 21:40 < AstralSin> Aecht Ochlenferla Rauchbier ... i think.. i can't read old english very well 21:44 < geoffscoffee> Ah that explains the taste, it's a Rauchbier 21:44 < geoffscoffee> smoked 21:45 < AstralSin> ah, is that what that means? 21:45 < geoffscoffee> yep 21:45 < geoffscoffee> where did you get that, btw? 21:45 < geoffscoffee> that's a nitch product 21:46 < AstralSin> franklin, i think the store is called "Brews and Smokes" or something, over by Lenny's subs/that big wine/liquor store 21:47 < geoffscoffee> heh! Woody's smokes and brews 21:47 < geoffscoffee> good on them 21:47 < AstralSin> in the same building as the liquor store, right? 21:49 < geoffscoffee> yup 21:50 < geoffscoffee> I've got a beer I made with the hops I grew this year. Not a big harvest, but I'm proud 21:51 < geoffscoffee> we'll see how it tastes next week 21:51 < AstralSin> cool 21:51 < AstralSin> yeah, i'm not really digging this beer 21:52 < AstralSin> i just had a pumpkin ale that was really good, but got really sweet the more i drank it 21:52 * dc0de goes to get some vodka 21:53 < AstralSin> Schlafly was the brewery 21:53 < AstralSin> the liquor store there next to woody's has a pretty nice beer selection, too 21:54 < geoffscoffee> yeah, that's the high alc stuff...gimmie anything from Dog Fish Head 21:55 < geoffscoffee> I had some Pale ale that was in a can but it was 6.5%..very nice but a little too $$ 21:56 < geoffscoffee> dc0de, can I get a shot, pls? 21:56 < geoffscoffee> you are coming again for Phreaknic, right? 21:58 < AstralSin> god damnit, this shitfuck fedora 9 ships with an x server that doesn't support nvidia 21:59 < cwire> dc0de, you can drink again now? 21:59 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:00 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 22:08 < geoffscoffee> Grant's whisky, just what I need after seeing the next leader of the country 22:10 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 22:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 22:21 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["At least I didn't have to invent 26 dimensions to get the math to work."] 22:21 * dasunt kicks ass. 22:21 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 22:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maverickbna] by ChanServ 22:22 < dasunt> Saw Neal Stephenson do a reading of his new novel. 22:22 <@Jagobah> what's it called 22:22 <@Jagobah> Is it a sequel to "command line" 22:22 < dasunt> Anathem. 22:23 < dasunt> Also noticed that audience members who asked a question during the Q&A session got a t-shirt. 22:24 < dasunt> Guess who has a anathem promo tshirt now? 22:25 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:25 -!- maverickbna is now known as ShadowHntr 22:28 <@Jagobah> ! 22:32 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 22:33 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 22:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 22:33 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has left #se2600 [] 22:37 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 22:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 22:45 < dasunt> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsunad/2891604920/sizes/l/\ 22:45 < dasunt> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsunad/2891604920/sizes/l/ <- Now with less trailing backslashes! 22:55 <@NotLarry> SkyDog_: are you on? 22:57 < geoffscoffee> night 22:57 -!- geoffscoffee [n=geoff@c-76-18-176-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:59 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: don't be trying to suck up to him now that you might have ruined his steaks 23:01 <@Dagmar> NotLarry you are a bitch 23:01 -!- mtown_ner1 [n=JHester@c-75-66-111-159.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:01 -!- mtown_ner1 is now known as mtown_nerd 23:01 <@Dagmar> wagnerrp: Oh I know that feeling. One of my friends had my name "translated" to Kanji while he was in China 23:01 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: do yo know if youc an put a delay into a wow macro anymore? 23:02 <@Dagmar> wrong channel 23:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mtown_nerd] by ChanServ 23:02 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Far as I know you cant. 23:02 <@Dagmar> THat would make it easy to bot with 23:02 <@Evilpig> damnit. making a new macro for wotlk but I really need a delay 23:02 <@Evilpig> after a warrior does a revenge they get the next heroic strike free 23:02 <@Evilpig> but I can't just do them at the same time cause it uses the swing timer 23:03 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: ruined his stakes? 23:03 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: /castsequence ability, ability 23:03 <@NotLarry> I got 8' treated 4X4, how big a steak do we need? 23:03 <@Dagmar> umm... don't forget reset=target/3 or something in there 23:04 <@Evilpig> steak not stake 23:04 <@NotLarry> ah, my bad, still, did you not find the container you were looking for? 23:04 <@Evilpig> I might be able to make that work. 23:04 <@Evilpig> nope. still haven't seen it 23:27 <@NotLarry> Ok, I'll be right over. Well, I'm drunk, it may take a few minutes 23:27 <@NotLarry> later kids 23:31 <@Jagobah> am I a bad person for finding this kind of hilarious http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5680/putinrearshisheadjpg122tq6.jpg 23:38 <@someninjamaster> anyone watching history channel 23:38 <@someninjamaster> hacking history is on 23:38 < cwire> i saw that show earlier tonight, it was pretty cool 23:38 <@someninjamaster> yeah 23:38 <@someninjamaster> i just started watching it 23:39 < cwire> the bike generator was pretty nifty 23:48 -!- Cynefrid [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 23:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Cynefrid] by ChanServ 23:58 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=piss@71-10-173-151.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Sat Sep 27 00:00:31 2008