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00:34 < wrench> whatup hobbes615
01:16 <@Catonic> i hate being up in the middle of the night
01:16 <@Catonic> i keep trying to work
01:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Nice... when Palin was mayor of Wasilla, the Wasilla PD billed rape victims for the investigation.
01:41 <@scort> http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
01:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Also, when Wasilla's head librarian refused to ban books, Palin tried to fire her.
01:43 <@Corydon76-dig> So apparently, Palin is a regular opponent of freedom and justice
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02:44 <@scort> that makes her a terrorist
02:44 <@scort> let's hang her
03:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Nah, I think she's a witch... let's burn her at the stake...
03:13 < Tuttle|> and what do we burn besides witches? MORE PALINS!
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09:50 <@rhia> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2931
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10:07 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: just now figuring out about the rape kit thing?
10:34 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: you ever play with irlp?
10:34 <@Shadow404> Catonic: node 4550 irlp
10:42 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: had to read about it from a reputable news source
10:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: I have, yes.  Some friends of mine host an IRLP node on a 440 repeater in town
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Or did... I can't seem to find it in the list
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11:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: http://www.ke4pjw.net/
11:11 <@Shadow404> ok, u on that freq often?
11:11 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: 4550 is the main repeater i use
11:12 <@Shadow404> www.w4doc.org
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> No, very rarely.  Appears that the node is extended down.
11:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Just sent a note to the node owner, asking if I can help in any way
11:13 <@Shadow404> ah, yours or mine?
11:13 <@Corydon76-dig> KE4PJW
11:13 <@Shadow404> oh, ok
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11:37 < eryc> http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/storm_radar/at200809_radar.gif
11:47 < eryc> http://fantasticcontraption.com/
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12:32 <@Catonic> Shadow404: for the 400th time, there's not an IRLP on 2m in this town.
12:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: what about 70cm?
12:41 < eryc> ur dick is 70cm
12:43 <@ShadowHntr> eryc: is it?
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12:48 <@Corydon76-dig> eryc: Don't I wish
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14:15 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOZqRJzE8xg
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14:23  * mtown_nerd is depressed because he lost his Warhammer Online CE pre-order codes. :(
14:23 <@coil> irl
14:23 <@sdodson> omg no beta for you!
14:30 <@Jagobah> warhammer's not that great anyway
14:44  * brimstone pages sdodson to cache
14:58 <@Dagmar> mtown_nerd: Did you get it through Direct2Drive?
14:58 <@Dagmar> Nevermind.  Surely he'd have figured out he can go look them up again there on his own
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15:11 <@Dagmar> Wow.
15:11 <@Dagmar> Slow download is slo-o-o-o-ow.
15:11 <@coil> lolcats meme is laaaame
15:11 <@Dagmar> 21.5M of 821Mb on the 3.0.1 patch
15:11 <@Dagmar> It's been running all night
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15:30 < eryc> http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2562/77churchmarqeefightuv5.jpg
15:36 < nated0g> wtf eryc
15:36 < nated0g> that is funny
15:38 <@Evilpig> dag i'm at 60MB and two days now
15:39 <@Catonic> I'm at 539MB and only an hour.
15:39 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Yeah, clearly there's a steeper than normal start of the curve stemming from the MASSIVE SIZE of the thing
15:39 <@Dagmar> Catonic: You disabled the P2P download I'll wager.
15:39 <@Evilpig> or blizzard's torrent software is just bad
15:40 <@Dagmar> Blizz's torrent software is actually a skinned BitTorrent, straight from Bram
15:40 <@Evilpig> I am looking at my peer list and see alot of 90%+
15:41 <@Dagmar> I see three 100%'s and then nothing above 10
15:41 <@Catonic> No, I'm pulling your leg, but I wouldn't be suprised if I could get decent speeds at work on a weekend day.
15:41 <@Catonic> 300Mbit/s and nothing to do...
15:42 <@Catonic> "Remember kids, the faster you download, the bigger your dick is!"
15:42 <@Dagmar> I just diabled P2P and I'll see if the HTTP direction avenue will get me there any faster.
15:42 <@Catonic> Shadow404: yo, around?
15:42 <@Dagmar> If it'll get me even halfway I'll swich back to P2P just to send some fucking packets out
15:43 <@Catonic> so y'all ever notice the Skype SuperNode phenomenon?
15:43 <@Evilpig> with all the users they have.  they really should have the fastest torrents in history
15:44 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Not when so many of them are complete wankers
15:44 <@Evilpig> i'd say half of htem don't even realize the background downloader is running though
15:44 <@Dagmar> I guarantee you that most of them aren't allowing it to download _while_ they play
15:44 <@Dagmar> Man
15:44 <@Dagmar> BY THE WAY
15:45 <@Dagmar> I am fucking sick of "uber raiding guilds"
15:45 <@Dagmar> I did Naxx in a PUG yesterday with people from Disconnected and Aenima
15:46 <@Dagmar> About the best thing I can say about the Aenima guys (who I have been eyeing carefully) is that those 2 dudes were "competent" because they kept their mouths shut and didn't fuck up
15:46 <@Dagmar> The raid leader, who KNEW that more than half of us were new to Naxx was an ass.
15:47 <@Dagmar> He put down raid markers maybe 1/3 or less of the time when not fighting bosses
15:47 <@Dagmar> ...and then showed contempt for the people who got killed.
15:47 <@Evilpig> if you had 40 of y'all in there shit should be dying super fast though
15:47 <@Dagmar> We had 25-29
15:48 <@Dagmar> We cleared everything but the two dragons
15:48 <@Dagmar> In theory, at 6pm I could go back in there for that for the achievement, but I honestly don't like those guys
15:48 <@Dagmar> They had a hunter named Dudewax who yah, has the windserpent and the crit chance to go with it, but didn't even look like he was running OMen half the time
15:49 <@Dagmar> If yer DPS is >1000 you better fucking watch your aggro
15:49 <@Dagmar> "Shitty instructions" is another thing I've got to add to the list.
15:49 <@Dagmar> We're staring at a room, he tries to use the rooom behind us to "explain" the fight, and then uses directions like "left"
15:50 <@Dagmar> I had to ask "do you mean counterclockwise?"
15:50 <@Dagmar> We got to the bit with the two blue guys in the boss room with their battery terminals, and when we started on teh boss, we did what he said.  We grouped up at the "usual" range for everyone who ain't melee
15:51 <@Dagmar> ...and he bitched us out for not getting right up on the tank
15:51 <@Dagmar> Because he never bothred to mention that was what he wanted.
15:51 <@Evilpig> he's just annoyed because you hadn't looked at the fights on bosskillers.com first to know the strats
15:52 <@Dagmar> When it came time for the polarity shift, again, because he didn't mention it, about half the guys balked because he didn't mention that we should do the one thing you almost NEVER do, which is reposition by going between the boss and the wall when there's like a two foot gape there
15:52 <@Dagmar> Evilpig
15:52 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Yeah but we made it clear that we'd never been there before or read it
15:52 <@Catonic> ur boss is 12.
15:53 <@Dagmar> I found out about it like three hours prior
15:53 <@Dagmar> The more I raid with other people the more I value my guild leader
15:53 <@Evilpig> I can't say much about naxx.  I had to learn all the fights pre-bc.  so going back in there was just a refresher
15:53 <@Dagmar> We can pug shit all day long because he can give coherent instructions.
15:54 <@Dagmar> Hell, *I* could give coherent instrucitons for all the fights after one run now
15:54 <@Dagmar> I do kinda get irked that my guild leader talks a bit *too* much.
15:54 <@Dagmar> Sometimes I gotta prod him to effing pull before my trap times out
15:54 <@Dagmar> ...but at least no one's in the dark about what to do
15:55 <@Dagmar> The fact that this dude kept referring to us as "casters" and "melee" was starting to piss me and the other hunters off
15:55 <@Evilpig> was he a tank?
15:56 <@Dagmar> In the middle of something, or in preparing for something, he'd say "melee back off", or "casters back off", and not once clarified whether hunters were supposed to be of either group
15:56 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Healer
15:57 <@Dagmar> It's a bit of a bitch when you're trying to kill those guys at the same time, and you don't know if you should stop or go full bore because of the way he was directing people
15:58 <@Dagmar> ...and I did ask whether he thought hunters were melee or casters
15:58 <@Dagmar> He started talking about something else and didn't even bother to respond
15:58 <@Evilpig> huntards are range and always considered casters
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15:59 <@Catonic> hun*tards*
15:59 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but someone with a working brain when splitting up people after having said casters to this side, melee to that side, um more melee here, etc etc would have *noticed* that all four hunters, including one from his guild were standing in the middle waiting
16:00 <@Dagmar> 'cuz I was trying to tune in on what the fuck this guy wanted by hugging Dudewax's ass
16:00 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I don't wanna hear this "huntards" shit
16:00 <@Dagmar> That's weak.
16:01 <@Evilpig> I leveled one.  I know how easy it is
16:01 <@Evilpig> I do have ot say leveling my lock is even easier though
16:01 <@Dagmar> It's easy to level, *but* so is any pet class.
16:01 <@Dagmar> Yeah I was about to bring that up becuse my lock is about unstoppable
16:01 <@Dagmar> ...at least against the outdoors PvE stuff
16:01 <@Evilpig> my lock is in a dress for fucks sake
16:02 <@Dagmar> But like, *not* having markers on mobs is a *serious* way to fuck up hunter DPS
16:02 <@Evilpig> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=auctiongimp
16:02 <@Dagmar> We can't see what the fuck is going on in that mass of non-aoe controlled sparkling fire cloud
16:02 <@Dagmar> Fucking put up a skull and an X and we'll rape the DPS charts tho
16:03 <@Dagmar> I could damn well tell that the other two hunters were looking for markers
16:03 <@Evilpig> didn't you have an MA?
16:03 <@Dagmar> MA?
16:03 <@Evilpig> main assist
16:03 <@Dagmar> No.
16:03 <@Evilpig> then your raid leader was a retard
16:03 <@Dagmar> Not that the leader ever bothered mentioning it either
16:03 <@Dagmar> Yes.
16:03 <@Evilpig> when naxx first came out we didn't even have raid targets
16:04 <@Dagmar> ...and I keep thinking, "This is what passes for uber?"
16:04 <@Dagmar> The whole way through I pretty much had to just pick my own MD targets
16:04 <@Dagmar> I played a crapton of "save the healer" too
16:04 <@Evilpig> I like to play "hide and go heal" during raid
16:05 <@Evilpig> healers aren't too fond of it though
16:05 <@Dagmar> lol.
16:05 <@Dagmar> I think Pitbull fucks up LARGE for 40mans tho
16:05 <@Dagmar> I was seeing all kinda strange artifacts
16:05 <@Dagmar> Leftover buff markers, etc
16:06 <@Dagmar> ...but at least the damn thing would fade properly when I'd get out of range of healers
16:06 <@Dagmar> I'd have gone back to X-Perl in a heartbeat if it hadn't
16:06 <@Dagmar> Omen name bars should be clickable
16:06 <@Dagmar> Of this I am sure now
16:06 <@Dagmar> I'll have to look into that
16:07 <@Evilpig> I need to find a better set of docs for freeradius.  it keeps telling me I can't use ldap in the post-auth section but it is in the sample config file with comments as well
16:07 <@Evilpig> omen will be changing for 3.0
16:07 <@Evilpig> but adding a target on click should be simple enough
16:07 <@Dagmar> I wasn't the 0.2-second fast I can pull off in 10 mans because of having to search the bloody list anew for the right name to click on to MD
16:07 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: yeah I know Omen will be changing, but not much
16:08 <@Dagmar> The built in stuff is not useful
16:08 <@Evilpig> you don't have raid grid up ?
16:08 <@Dagmar> You get notifications when a threat table *changes*
16:08 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I have all the little names nicely arranged to the left for 40-man fine
16:08 <@Dagmar> RL kept moving people around
16:08 <@Dagmar> So the next time I looked for someone, he wasn't there.
16:09 <@Evilpig> ahh.  you can use the classes as groups instead of the groups if you need 
16:09 <@Dagmar> This makes "saving the healer" a bitch
16:09 <@Evilpig> even the bliz raid frames allow that
16:09 <@Dagmar> $mob aggros healer, hunter targets mob, checks Omen list, and MUST MD to the #2 spot on the list or they're just wasting the cooldown
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16:10 <@Dagmar> Coupla times I had to buy time with Intimidation
16:11 <@Dagmar> I am also a litlte miffed that by the time we got to the horsemen, it was clear the fucker was picking who was going to live and who was going to die.
16:11 <@Dagmar> I was standing right next to the pet healers in the last 3-4 boss fights as much as I could get away with, still didnt' survive
16:12 <@Dagmar> I got no heals at all after the second horseman
16:12 <@Dagmar> Serious win there
16:12 <@Dagmar> Pfft.
16:12 <@Dagmar> When WoTLK comes out I have got to have video recording set up here
16:13 <@Dagmar> The huntard problem is one thing, but it's time to start making the people who try to snooze their way through things look as bad as they are
16:14 <@Dagmar> our people don't even blink when something goes off the rails in a fight
16:15 <@Dagmar> Probably because of communication
16:15 <@Dagmar> If it's not a clear cut "even a child could spot the right thing to do here" QuanQiang will say something
16:15 <@Evilpig> I have fraps if you want it
16:15 <@Dagmar> I'm going to use a PVR card
16:16 <@Dagmar> It'll be easier to cut
16:17 <@Dagmar> I *would* just go read up on the last two fights and offer to explain the shit *for* the guy, but at least on that frost dragon from hell he bothered to give us all the details
16:17 <@Dagmar> ...and 74FR is about all I can bring into that
16:17 <@Dagmar> ...so I'm pretty sure I'd be bones on the floor no matter what there.
16:18 <@Dagmar> That blizzard shit is evil
16:18 <@Dagmar> Props to blizz devs.  hehe
16:19 <@Evilpig> all you need to know about the frost wyrm is get behind the frozen guy.  stay out of the blizzard.  collect loot
16:19 <@Dagmar> He might not be the most complex dragon in the game </sarcasm> but he certainly lays the smack down as a sub-zero dracolitch
16:20 <@Dagmar> Well, that the blizzards were just popping up anywhere they felt like, and that they covered about 1/3 of the floor at all times, makes that bit count as a constant HP-drain in my book
16:21 <@Dagmar> Getting out from under them is bitchy enough but the slowing part really makes them evil
16:21 < eryc> http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bushfunny1la2.jpg
16:21 < eryc> http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e216/duncan0/NGGYU.jpg
16:21 < eryc> http://lazybakers.ytmnd.com/
16:24 < eryc> http://i37.tinypic.com/fvfl8x.jpg
16:24 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=5cg9MPPJsgg
16:25  * brimstone fines eryc for link spam
16:28 < eryc> http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bukkake3.jpg
16:30 <@Catonic> I like the look of that url.
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17:03 <@Dagmar> I think I'm gonna try the PTR again tonight.
17:03 <@Dagmar> God only knows what incarnation of my characters have been copied last time
17:06 <@Catonic> eryc: I have been looking for that track that's behind lazybakers.
17:06 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Someday I'll manage to finish a game of Spore
17:06 <@Catonic> It makes me question my sexuality
17:07 <@Dagmar> It isn't just the creatures that evolve.
17:07 <@Dagmar> There's a great degree to which the game itself evolves into something entirely more complex at each stage
17:08 <@Dagmar> The Space Exploration stage is like this massive game of Civ in space, but without having to worry so much about managing science research
17:08 <@tcstool> Dagmar:  I missed the first part, what game is this?
17:08 <@sdodson> Catonic: I believe that's called "Repetitive electronic bullshit track #28394" Clearly a massive hit
17:09 <@Dagmar> Spore
17:09 <@tcstool> Oh yeah! I've heard about it but never played it
17:09 <@sdodson> Catonic: can you play that and then use the iphone thing to detect what song it is?
17:09 <@Dagmar> I haven't written it off as unplayable yet, but there's craptons to it
17:09 <@tcstool> pretty fun though?
17:09 <@Dagmar> It's hard to make a decision on it since there's so much to figure out
17:10 <@Dagmar> Yeah, it's fun
17:10 <@Dagmar> The Sporepedia thing is kinda of nifty
17:10 <@Dagmar> Basically, there's no freaking telling what kind of lunatic monsters you'll find, because it downloads them from the pool of monsters other people have made
17:11 <@tcstool> right
17:11 <@Dagmar> I may have to backpedal a bit at the planet stage tho to regain middle ground so I've access to economic methods in the space stage
17:11 <@Dagmar> That was kind of annoying
17:11 <@tcstool> This does look pretty good
17:11 <@tcstool> I might have to give it a try
17:11 <@Dagmar> I hit up Direct2Drive for it
17:12 <@Dagmar> Too lazy to go to the store
17:12 <@Dagmar> Hehe
17:12 <@Dagmar> Gogo gadgetcablemodem
17:12 <@Dagmar> It gets really complex tho at the stage I've gotten it to
17:13 <@Dagmar> The first stage where you're a microbe is just kiddie-game simple for the most part
17:14 <@Dagmar> At the end of it, you wind up with a creature that's either an herbivore, a carnivore, or an omnivore depending on what you ate in the first phase
17:14 <@tcstool> right
17:14 <@tcstool> yeah this looks like something I might really like
17:14 <@tcstool> I'll definitely check it out
17:14 <@tcstool> thanks for the tip
17:14 <@Dagmar> It's definitely up there for the sandboxness of it
17:15 <@Dagmar> The funny shit is that I found a planet inhabited by one of the races I created.
17:15 <@tcstool> what are the odds
17:15 <@Dagmar> They were still squabbling as a bunch of tribesmen.  They counted as omnivores, so I pulled a few into the cargo bin
17:15 <@Dagmar> :)
17:15 <@Catonic> sdodson: no, I just have a mind for what I like in music
17:16 <@Dagmar> Oh music.
17:16 <@Dagmar> Most of the music work was done by Brian Eno and it shows.
17:16 <@Dagmar> Creature language is basically in simlish tho.  I guess we can't have everything
17:16 <@Catonic> sdodson: that and I want to lock selma blair up in my basement.
17:17 <@Dagmar> This isn't exactly creative for every race to use audible communication
17:17 <@Dagmar> I never actually bothered giving any of the creatures I created ears or noses, and it just didn't seem to matter much.
17:29 <@Catonic> Dagmar: if they don't have noses, how will they smell the explosive flatulance of other races?
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17:35 <@Dagmar> Catonic; I've not a clue
17:35 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to do a bit of Googling to see if those organs are as solely for decoration as they would appear to be
17:36 <@Dagmar> I would have thought at least that extra sensory organs would allow for more survivability, but, the system ain's as complex as that
17:37 <@Dagmar> It looks like with each "tier" of planetary development, there's a slot for small bushes, medium plants, and large trees, a slot for an herbivore, a carnivore and an omnivore, and whether something survives or not appears to be basically just whether or not there was a slot free when you seeded the planet
17:37 <@Dagmar> Drop anything else down there and it immediately dies out
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17:47 <@Catonic> sounds like a modern "SimEarth"
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18:08 < AstralSin> good god, reading an excel file into a c# application is complicated
18:17 <@sdodson> should be simple
18:18 <@Dagmar> LOL
18:18 <@Dagmar> Got the PTR client installed, and now I get to wait for it to download another 154Mb patch
18:18 <+MaxieZ> Yeah..I would think it would be cake
18:18 <@Catonic> There's a certain irony in the history of the internet...
18:18 <@Catonic> that two of the major interchange points would be called "Mae West" and "Mae East"
18:18 <@sdodson> that it's for porn?
18:18 <+MaxieZ> AstralSin: Is it like creating a sql connection, or are you reading in the file for editing?
18:19 <@Catonic> I wonder if there's a joke in there from long ago.
18:19  * sdodson decides to stop contributing to the green power stuff
18:20 <@Dagmar> it is
18:20 <@Dagmar> MAE is an acronym
18:20 <@Dagmar> http://www.mae.net/
18:21 <+MaxieZ> http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r44/ktshep/MaeWest.jpg
18:21 <+MaxieZ> I've never made that connection because I've dealt so much more with Mae East.
18:22 <@Catonic> Perhaps what I meant to imply is that WE all know now that the internet is for porn, but I was just reading about Mae West (the actress) and the choice seems amusing from there.
18:22 <@Catonic> Heh. MAE Miami...
18:22 <@Dagmar> it's just lucky chance
18:23 <+MaxieZ> Gives "Why don't you come up and see me sometime" a whole new meaning.
18:23 <@Catonic> Dagmar: I'd bet my eye-teeth that it's more than a coincidence, and that there are more than a few ex-military WW-II Bell techs who were working at Bell at the time.
18:23 <+MaxieZ> Damn Catonic...I can't believe I've never made that connection myself
18:24 <@Dagmar> Read Verizon's page about the MAEs
18:24 <@Dagmar> it r an acronym and they put one on the east coast and one on the west coast
18:24 <@Dagmar> They didn't build a massive infrastructure just to make a pun
18:25 <@Catonic> Dagmar: I understand, but officially the company couldn't acknowledge the pun even it if were real, otherwise they'd be liable to Mae West's estate.
18:26 <@Catonic> I wonder if there's much of a future in bringing technology to the third world, or if you're more likely to wound up shot and dead in a ditch in Africa.
18:27 <@sdodson> I don't think they = verizon either.
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18:27 <@sdodson> It was most likely MCI at the time.
18:32 < AstralSin> MaxieZ: i'm just reading the file then writing it out to a space delimited text file
18:32 <@Catonic> I want to build microwave networks.
18:32 < AstralSin> i just need to read each row, i have the code to put shit where it needs to go in the text file
18:32 <@Catonic> unfortunately, I'm 40 years too late.
18:33 <@Dagmar> Yeeep.
18:33 <@Dagmar> PTR.  Go.  Download.  Install.
18:33 <@Dagmar> You wants it if you're playing WoW.
18:34 <+MaxieZ> PTR?
18:34 <@Evilpig> wait?  what?  the ptr is up?
18:34 < AstralSin> MaxieZ: the thing is, i'm a noob, i've never really coded with C#, especially not database programming
18:34 <+MaxieZ> AstralSin: Me either.  Just curious.
18:34 <@sdodson> AstralSin: How do you mean reading the file?
18:34 <@sdodson> I'm sure there's some library that will import it into a table object and then you can write it out to text by iterating it.
18:35 < AstralSin> i need to read an excel spreadsheet, get the contents, and write out each row in a specific way to a text file
18:36 < AstralSin> i can't seem to even read the document though, the way C# does things is confusing
18:42 < eryc> What is MAE?
18:42 < eryc> MAE® is a registered Trademark of Verizon® for Internet exchange services. MAE is not an acronym. We provide public peering services for Internet Service Providers.
18:42 < eryc> 19:20 <@Dagmar> MAE is an acronym
18:43 <@scort> oooooooooooo good one man you really showed that guy
18:45 <@Catonic> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/funny-pictures-tiger-fetches-a-large-trunk.jpg
18:52 <@Catonic> http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-09-14.gif <- Awesome.
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19:11 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNuTAukrpzo
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19:40 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDyN2yux_NY
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19:42 <@Shadow404> man, work is gonna suck tonmorrow with a sore arm
19:44 < Someninjaiphone> What did you do jack off to much
19:44 <@coil> why sore
19:46 < eryc> http://xvmserver.org/
19:47 <@sdodson> yawn sun!
19:50 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0kGc6UEGVc
19:52 <@Shadow404> Someninjaiphone, coil: i punctured my arm
19:53 < Someninjaiphone> Oh
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20:02 <@dasunt> For all S. M. Stirling gets dissed, I have to say I'm honestly impressed by that guy.
20:02 <@dasunt> As far as I can tell, he's a professional fanfic author.
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20:24 <@ShadowHntr> damn i'm finally getting some cool little toys
20:25 <@ShadowHntr> not sure if i'll get to try them all out before i have to move again :P
20:25 <@ShadowHntr> just picked up an SGI O2 workstation
20:25 <@ShadowHntr> just have to zero out the root password and i'll have a working IRIX system.
20:26 <@Catonic> At least the SGI boxes were never beige
20:27 <@ShadowHntr> lol true
20:27 <@ShadowHntr> now i have an Indy, an Octane and an O2
20:28 <@Catonic> I've had an indy, indigo, indigo2..
20:28 <@ShadowHntr> cool
20:29 <@Catonic> Was offered an Iris once.
20:29 <@Catonic> nope, crimson
20:30 <@ShadowHntr> still cool stuff.
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20:31 <@sdodson> The SGI stuff we have are all gigantic machines.
20:34 <@Catonic> http://www.cray-cyber.org/systems/o2000.php
20:34 <@ShadowHntr> *shrug*
20:34 <@ShadowHntr> well anyhoo
20:34 <@ShadowHntr> my battery's about to let out
20:34 <@ShadowHntr> so i'm gonna head home
20:34 <@ShadowHntr> bbiab
20:34 <@Catonic> I remember walking into a hallway at a NASA facility once and see racks of these lined up
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20:35 <@Evilpig> anyone ever built freeradius with the ldap module?  no matter what switch I through at the configure switch it doesn't want to build it
20:35 <@brimstone> no, but i need to :/
20:36 <@brimstone> two factor auth ftw!
20:37 <@Evilpig> I just want it for the access points.  but I can't get it to build the ldap libraries.  stupid thing.  it had a typo in some of the config files as well that referred to //lib and it until I fixed that it wouldn't even compile right
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20:39 <@brimstone> so, what do you guys recommend for a free C compiler in windows?
20:39 <@brimstone> one that will at least allow me to use winsock
20:39 <@Catonic> there goes gcc.
20:40 <@brimstone> yeah, i was just gonna mwing it
20:40 <@brimstone> but a requirement is to use winsock
20:47 < mrtsunami> doesn't borland have a c compiler? dunno if it allows winsock though
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21:07 <@brimstone> i think i can swing something with mingw it looks like
21:08 < DigitalIrony> what about bloodshed
21:08 <@brimstone> bloodshed is apparently just mingw, or so says their site
21:08 <@Drag0n> bloodshed is always good when its not your own
21:08 <@Drag0n> oops, did i say that out loud?
21:08 < DigitalIrony> ahh
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21:27 < Digitalirony> lol
21:27 <@Catonic> <3
21:28 < Digitalirony> some one just came in #asterisk named DAHDI
21:28 < Digitalirony> I had to do it
21:28 <@brimstone> sure...
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21:44 <@Catonic_lp> what does it mean when an ethernet interface is prefixed with "P" in linux, ie: peth0?
21:45 < AstralSin> pseudo
21:45 <@brimstone> or physical, if this is a xen host
21:45 <@Catonic> vmware.
21:45 <@brimstone> probably the same then
21:45 < AstralSin> i was making that up
21:46 <@Catonic> it was xen aware, but I has to boot a regular kernel to get vmware
21:46 < AstralSin> for some reason /etc is set as read-only on my centos server, why?
21:48 <@brimstone> Catonic: you still have xen stuff running that's moving eths around on you
21:48 <@Catonic> brimstone: it's ok, I discovered that eth0 and eth1 are my gigabit ports
21:48 <@brimstone> that's good
21:49 <@Catonic> eth2-5 are the bond0, and 6-9 are the dec ethernet
21:49 <@Catonic> just gonna move the bond up one nic and steal off one of my intelports so I can run the gig-e up to the laptop & desktop
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21:57 <@sysmin> SkyDog_, you around?
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22:26 <@Evilpig> Dagmar, I have the ptr client installing.
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22:44 <@Catonic> what's the preferred way to implement a NAT on linux?
22:45 <@Catonic> i.e.: use Linux as a router?
22:48 <@brimstone> iptables?
22:48 <+MxZBot> iptables is a tool for communists
22:48 <@brimstone> that's how i do it
22:49 <@Evilpig> damnit.  Dagmar after the ptr installs there is another 154MB download after that
22:51 <@Catonic> what's the feature or special word I should be looking for?
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22:51 <@Evilpig> catonic do you just want a copy of my quick and dirty iptables firewall?  it does nat
22:52 <@Catonic> Evilpig: I'll be your best friend.
22:52 <@Evilpig>  /msg me your email address
22:52 <@Evilpig> it even has documentation in it
22:52  * Catonic confers Best Friendship on Evilpig 
22:53 <@brimstone> it's like 2 lines for nat with iptables
22:53 <@Catonic> http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=I%27ll_Be_Your_Best_Friend.txt
22:53 <@Catonic> ~minilink
22:54 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/folklore.org/mxqwB.py
22:54 <@Evilpig> you should have it in a second
22:56 <@timoguin> So... I have some pretty awesome questions from the chapter for my database class.
22:56 <@timoguin> "Why is data quality important?"
22:56 <@timoguin> "Why is efficient implementation important?"
22:57 <@Catonic> timoguin: Ask anyone who has had to battle Equifax to correct a credit report.
22:57 <@Catonic> timoguin: Because issuing a CPU expensive query may significantly impact other users, and the overall availablity of the production database.
22:58 <@timoguin> Catonic: I know the answers.
22:58 <@timoguin> I just thought they were stupid questions.
22:58 <@Evilpig> Catonic: did you get it?
22:58 <@timoguin> Kind of like asking why is breathing important...
22:59 <@Catonic> Evilpig: not yet
23:02 <@Evilpig>  Transferred
23:02 <@Evilpig>  9/14/2008 10:55 PM
23:03 <@Evilpig>  wooo !  I have my ticket for blizzcon
23:05 <@brimstone> a2pd headphones ftw!
23:13 <@Catonic> feck. I think gmail ate it.
23:19 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: think about how a dumb blonde might answer the questions, and then make sure that you agree that your answers aren't hers
23:19 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: it's obvious to you and me, but some people just aren't all there
23:19 <@Catonic> preferably by writing her answers down while she performs fellatio  on you.
23:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: and you accuse me of talking only about sex!
23:22 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: you much on data communication, fsk, gmsk, qpsk, qam, etc?
23:23 <@Corydon76-dig> I know FSK, but that's about it
23:23 <@Catonic> what's the modulation bandwidth of fsk?
23:23  * brimstone hits Catonic with an unbound socket
23:23 <@Corydon76-dig> No idea what you even just asked me
23:24 <@Catonic> n/m then
23:24 <@Catonic> I'm playing with rf to data conversion in my head
23:28 < BlueCop1> i did that once i couldn't get this signal and only got noise
23:30 <@Catonic> I'm trying to see what sort of shortcuts I can take by abusing an old cop radio and putting data through it
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23:34 <@Catonic> Evilpig: your script is a great help, but I think I need to spend more time engineering this puzzle.
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