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00:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Video was just pulled
00:12 <@Dagmar> Still comes up here.
00:12 <@Dagmar> It might be cached tho
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00:57 <@timoguin> ugh.
00:57 <@timoguin> "Management wants to know if there are any guarantees that the network you are proposing will communicate with other networks? What is your response?"
00:57 <@timoguin> What the hell kind of question is that?
00:57 <@coil> good answer
01:00 <@timoguin> How the hell am I supposed to answer that?
01:00 <@timoguin> That's the entire assignment.
01:01 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: they're answering marketing bullshit.  Somebody has guaranteed that their solution will work, so management wants the same assurance from you.
01:01 <@timoguin> Well there's no background or anything. . .
01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> That the guarantee is nonsensical is what they're banking on.  You hesitate, you're dead.
01:02 <@timoguin> I can understand if it said, "You are planning to set up $x type of network on a $x budget.  What will you do/"
01:03 <@timoguin> Corydon76-dig: I guess I shouldn't have started out the answer with "there are never any guarantees with anything."
01:03 <@timoguin> Actually...
01:03 <@timoguin> "Explain your answer fully for full credit. I want to know the protocols, wiring, hardware and anything else you can tell me about."
01:03 <@timoguin> that's the rest of the question.
01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
01:04 <@timoguin> That doesn't teach me anything though really.  I can go full out and have quadrupamiple redundancy on anything.
01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> So this is a test question?
01:04 <@timoguin> Eh, it's like homework.
01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Still doesn't protect you against a lightning strike
01:05 <@timoguin> So I guess I'm going to go about it describing a network for a mid-sized business.
01:05 <@Corydon76-dig> As Howard is fond of saying, "Speed costs.  How fast do you want to go?"
01:06 <@timoguin> Exactly.
01:06 <@timoguin> That's the problem with the question.
01:06 <@timoguin> There's no point of reference.
01:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Previous question, perhaps?
01:06 <@timoguin> Obviously money factors in when you're talking redundancy and guarantees.
01:07 <@timoguin> Corydon76-dig: No, this is the entire homework question.
01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> So maybe the answer is "Maybe"
01:07 <@coil> class discussion
01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> and then you explain what you mean, and what you can guarantee at the various price points
01:07 <@coil> tomorrow
01:07 <@timoguin> Maybe I'll just trace my dick on the paper.
01:07 <@coil> ooo
01:07 <@coil> take pics plz
01:08 <@timoguin> coil: you might be one of the few who doesn't already have one.
01:08 <@coil> ahh
01:09 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: I'll hold it down, you can trace it.
01:09 <@timoguin> Aw. That's sweet of you.
01:09 <@coil> oh wait
01:09 <@Corydon76-dig> That's me
01:09 <@coil> timoguin: were you saying i dont ahve a penis?
01:09 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: you don't have a pic of it
01:10 <@coil> oic
01:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Although I've never seen it IRL, I can say it's a very nice looking penis
01:10 <@coil> pics or shens
01:11 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't email pics of friends' cocks without permission
01:11 <@coil> hi timoguin can i have pics
01:11 <@Corydon76-dig> especially if I think I might ever have a chance to tug on it
01:17 <@timoguin> Nevar.
01:17 <@coil> never to what
01:18 <@timoguin> Nevar to nevarland.
01:56 <@Catonic_lp> bitches!
01:58 <@Catonic_lp> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3ay4_MA258
01:58 <@Catonic_lp> ^ NSFW
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02:32 <@aestetix> omg
02:32 <@aestetix> omg
02:32 <@aestetix> omg
02:32 <@aestetix> how the hell can anyone take Palin seriously anymore
02:32 <@Catonic_lp> aestetix: You can call me "Uncle Catonic" now.
02:32 <@aestetix> ... what?
02:33 <@aestetix> The horse your sister's been fucking finally knocked her up?
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02:37 <+MaxieZ> I need faster internets.
02:38 <+MaxieZ> I do hope that's the point of the LHC right?
02:38 <@Catonic_lp> Holy shit.
02:38 <@aestetix> Oh wow.
02:38 <@aestetix> Best comment I've seen on Digg in ages.
02:38 <+MaxieZ> Not finding the source of matter, but faster delivery of pr0n
02:38 <@Catonic_lp> MaxieZ: you're the last person I expected to hear that from.
02:38 <@aestetix> "It's Cheney with lipstick."
02:39 <@aestetix> So you know what else pitbulls are?
02:39 <@aestetix> Big, dumb, stupid animals that fight at a whim without thinking about their actions.
02:39 <@coil> Catonic_lp: that song sux
02:39 <+MaxieZ> Bandwidth is like money.  You can never have enough
02:39 <+MaxieZ> Bandwidth?
02:39 <+MxZBot> bandwidth is slow today at the university
02:39 <@aestetix> That's all and good for defending your little hockey star
02:39 <+MaxieZ> Mines better
02:39 <@aestetix> But acting as an ambassador to the world?!?!
02:40 <@coil> is it talkin about that bitch
02:41 <+MaxieZ> aestetix: They also attack small children and hump people's legs
02:41 <+MaxieZ> Perhaps it's a flawed analogy, or only carries to a point ;)
02:42 <@aestetix> MaxieZ: they attack indiscriminatly.
02:43 <+MaxieZ> My point is that there's no point in attacking the analogy
02:44 <@aestetix> I'm not attacking the analogy.
02:50 <@aestetix> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/11/14119/1262/889/595083
02:50 <@aestetix> Now this is scary.
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02:50 <@aestetix> Then again. Rupert Murdoch owns the WSJ, right?
02:54 <+MaxieZ> I believe he does...That's a good find
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03:05 <@timoguin> You all suck.
03:06 <@coil> at least we dont blow
03:07 <@coil> ...
03:07 <+MaxieZ> I'm going back to sleep.
03:18 <@coil> k gtfo
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06:40 <@Shadow404> meow, whos awake!
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07:58 <@brimstone> in linux, how can you tell which programs have memory paged to the swap file/partition?
07:58 <@brimstone> which, and how much
07:59 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: compare the resident memory to the total memory
08:00 <@brimstone> resident is physical ram?
08:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes
08:01 <@brimstone> ok, thanks
08:17 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:20 <@poiupoiu> sup Dolemite
08:21 <@I-MOD> mr0ning to you, too!
08:22 <@poiupoiu> yo I-MOD
08:22 <@brimstone> anyone hate the smashing pumpkins?
08:23 <@Dolemite> hate?  no
08:23 <@Dolemite> love?  no
08:23 <@brimstone> really? just doesn't do it for ya?
08:24 <@Dolemite> I like them, but I don't love them
08:27 < DigitalIrony> which smashing pumpkins? old or newer
08:28 < DigitalIrony> I wished I had been able to see them in the 90's. I no longer would like to see them other than maybe just so I can say I have
08:28 <@oddball> It's bad when *I've* memorized this trouble ticket number
08:28 <@brimstone> strages went a few months back and said they paid a lot of their older material
08:28 <@brimstone> oddball: i hate those
08:29 < DigitalIrony> brimstone: I went and saw the Foo fighters a few months back in bham it was great...
08:30 <@oddball> our data provider has been dropping packets bad enough that it's caused VOIP phone calls to drop since Tuesday.
08:30 <@Dolemite> I saw the Pumpkins when they played in Atlanta at the Fox in the late 90s
08:30 <@Dolemite> haven't really kept up with them since then
08:30 < DigitalIrony> Dolemite: you haven't missed anything
08:31 <@Dolemite> best concert I ever went to, though, was David Bowie + NIN
08:31 < DigitalIrony> I think they did one good song... don't remember it though
08:31 < DigitalIrony> Dolemite: that would have been sweet. I liked Jethro tull and the wallflowers
08:32 <@Dolemite> I never got a chance to see JT live :(
08:32 < DigitalIrony> Its awesome
08:32 <@Dolemite> I've always been a big Tull fan
08:32 < DigitalIrony> It started raining and alot of people left
08:32 < DigitalIrony> then it stopped and we rushed the stage
08:37 <@I-MOD> DigitalIrony, where did you see the wallflowers?
08:38 < DigitalIrony> Bham too
08:38 <@brimstone> did they finally fix their car?
08:38 <@I-MOD> and did they play one headlight?
08:38 < DigitalIrony> I used to live real close
08:38 < DigitalIrony> of coarse
08:38 <@I-MOD> i'd love to hear that live
08:38 < DigitalIrony> It was awesome everyone was singing to it
08:38 < DigitalIrony> everytime I heat it now I can still hear people....But yeah it was at this thing in bham called the craw fish broil
08:39 < DigitalIrony> Its a big out door thing alot like memphis in may or city stages...but not booths...just music
08:39 < DigitalIrony> and only one stage
08:39 <@polerin> aestetix: http://tinycatpants.wordpress.com/a-little-pitbull-advocacy/
08:39 <@oddball> joys.... looks like this was caused by an OC12 constantly bouncing in Atlanta.
08:40 <@polerin> aestetix: but yes, with the joke as she's making, the pitbull thing isn't exactly a good comparison
08:50 <@polerin> http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/09/11/zombie_feminism/  decent article, though Oddball will be disappointed.
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09:00 <@oddball> polerin: the sad thing is that I know people that will vote for her (well, McCain) because she's a woman.  Even though they completely disagree with her political positions.
09:10 <@poiupoiu> oddball, then there's people who will vote for obama, simply because he's black
09:11 <@poiupoiu> and others who won't, because he's black
09:11 <@oddball> Yeah, and that annoys me as well.
09:12  * I-MOD is against the US being a welfare state and against further military expansion
09:12  * I-MOD is voting for a third party this election
09:12 <@poiupoiu> i don't like mccain as he's too much "war! yay!", obama tends to backpeddle and is niave - both the democrat's and republican's party choices aren't that great to begin with
09:12 <@poiupoiu> but then again, how's this different than any other election
09:13 <@I-MOD> it's worse
09:13 <@poiupoiu> south park: "it's always going to be between a giant turn and a douche-bag"
09:13 <@I-MOD> slightly worse than last, quite a bit worse than two ago
09:14 <@poiupoiu> hehe, in weeds, one of the kids joins the debat team. his argument at a debate against the popular vote: *stands* "George W. Bush" *sits*
09:14 <@poiupoiu> or was it for... fuck, i can't remember
09:14  * poiupoiu fails
09:16 <@poiupoiu> ya know, i should probably think about what i type before i hit enter. oh well
09:16 <@I-MOD> no, we get more of your personality this way
09:16 <@rhia> poiupoiu: i've voted 3rd party since i first registered .... i can't this election, don't think Obama is some wonderous messiah, just can NOT let the GOP have another 4 yrs ... don't think our economy can take that, and we damn sure can't afford to get in a 3rd war
09:16 <@poiupoiu> dumb blond?
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09:18 <@poiupoiu> i tend to side with that the economy blows at the moment - we're spending too much overseas in the middle east when they could be better spent here. obama is more of a lesser of evils i think
09:19 <@poiupoiu> but i'm open to change the closer november comes
09:20 <@poiupoiu> it's stupid to always vote one party (demo. or repub.) - blindly siding with one group over the other without even thinking of looking at the other side is NOT how anything should be
09:21 <@poiupoiu> i can see wanting to always vote 3rd party, just because they're not democrat or republican though
09:23 <@rhia> eh, unregistered small i independent ... vote for the candidate, not the party .... 3rd parties this time suck as much or worse
09:23 <@rhia> Barr? McKinney?  shudder
09:24 <@rhia> never joined a party, never will
09:26 <@I-MOD> at least this election should be "interesting"
09:28 <@Dolemite> I'm writing in Frank Zappa.
09:29 <@poiupoiu> can i write "skydog" in for mine?
09:30 <@poiupoiu> just have every holiday a con
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09:34 <@nachoguy> ooh, McKinney, now that's someone I want running my country
09:43 <@oddball> Let's see.... a black woman for prez? brilliant!  Oh... what... she's completely psycho...
09:44 <@nachoguy> yeah, batshit insane is a little too tame to describe her
09:44 <@oddball> damn skippy
09:45 <@nachoguy> while we're at it, I would also like to see Donald Trump and Charles Manson not be president
09:46 <@nachoguy> I've been not president for years.  I'm starting to get tired of it.
09:50 < wrench> I think it would be fun just to see what kind of orders Manson would give as president. Maybe they could just make him think he was president for a while.
09:50 <@SkyDog_> Manson as President? He might give some screwed up orders, but they are probably better from the country than what bush is doing.
09:51 <@nachoguy> I'm not sure about his fiscal policy
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09:54 <@ziplock> one thing about presidental elections which is always a large part of my decision is the Supreme Court appointments.  They're for life, and the court is in a slow-motion perpetual swing from left to right and back.  It's important, I think, that we consider the potential appointments made during the next administration, and how that will affect the law for decades to come.
09:57 <@nachoguy> How many Judges are expected to step down in the next 4 years?
09:57 <@nachoguy> from what I understood, going into Bush's 2nd term, it was well understood that multiple seats might open
09:59 <@Dolemite> Skydog_ : I'd vote for Manson for president.  She's hawt!  Have you seen her on the Sarah Conner Chronicles?
09:59 <@ziplock> http://partners.is.asu.edu/~george/vacancy/index.html  has some interesting info, but I don't know a particular number of potential openings
10:03 <@Dolemite> and of course, when she was with Garbage...
10:03 <@Shadow404> woot, so i got my gun concealed firearms license in the mail last night. Only took 2 1/2 weeks
10:04 <@nachoguy> great, just what we need, and ex-con with a carry permit
10:04 <@nachoguy> s/and/an/
10:04 <@Shadow404> lawl
10:05 <@Shadow404> at least i know i dont have any pending investigations
10:07 <@ziplock> that was yesterday...
10:14 < wrench> Shadow404: damn! you got it in 2.5wks? They waited the full 90 days to give me mine.
10:15 < wrench> I was sweating bullets...some of the questions on the application form were *hard*.
10:16 < eryc> http://cache.consumerist.com/assets/images/consumerist/2008/09/091108-002-sporegoatse158.jpg
10:16 <@someninjamaster> wrench ie
10:18 <@rhia> ziplock: ginsberg, souter, and scalia are all rumored to be contemplating retiring, don't think any of them have made an announcement yet
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10:26 < ware> yay for boobies!
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10:42 <+MaxieZ> So if the bot leaves and says segmentation fault...is that witty, or just make it look like it has a bug?
10:43 <@brimstone> did it leave on it's on accord, or did it's owner interven?
10:43 <+MaxieZ> It's owner killed it :)
10:44 <@someninjamaster> omg you killed MxZBot you bastards
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10:53 <@Shadow404> wrench: yeah, well those questions, just um....yeah
10:53 < wrench> Shadow404: say no more...it's understood
10:55 < nated0g_wrk> morning everyone
10:55 < nated0g_wrk> just got got a chance to login
10:58 <@Shadow404> f@|l
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11:08 <@ziplock> just got home from gassing up the car, prices went up 40c/gallon overnight.  They say it's due to the storm.......    prices don't go down on sunny days though
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> ziplock: No, it's not due to the storm.  It's due to panic
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Someone started a rumor that it was going to go up $1.50 overnight.  Obviously, that didn't happen.
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> But what it did do was put a bunch of gas stations in short supply
11:12 <@Drag0n> more due to opportunistic greed
11:12 <@nachoguy> it's not due to the storm yet.  However I guess Ike is slated to go right through/past one of the biggest refinaries
11:13 <@ziplock> they said the refineries in TX are closed, and the distributors in the SE US are out.  But of course it's greed.  Whatever the cause, it's increased 40c overnight
11:13 <@Corydon76-dig> I probably won't be buying gas for another week, anyway
11:14 <@nachoguy> I have enough to last me until I go on vacation.  things should calm down by the time i get back
11:24 <@Catonic_lp> ziplock: if they could find a way to sell oxygen the same way...
11:26 <@ziplock> they had a sign on the pump saying "$40 limit on gas, sorry".  I quickly put a sticker on my wallet saying "$15 limit on gas, sorry" to show the cashier.  she said her sign was pre-approved by my activating the pump, but that my sign hadn't been approved.  But she did get a chuckle out of it.
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13:13 <@polerin> only up to 3.84 over here
13:13 <@polerin> :P
13:14 <@polerin> (yeah, only.  bleh.  Lissa says it's  4.50 down in tupalo)
13:30 <@ziplock> was 3.63 here yesterday, 4.04 this morning
13:31 <@Neoteric> polerin: the hell are you measuring? penis?
13:31 <@Drag0n> fuel prices
13:32  * Drag0n knows where neo's mind is
13:32 <@Neoteric> Drag0n: well it had a lot of sigfigs
13:32 <@Neoteric> and no units
13:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Neoteric: why, what's your penis size today?
13:33  * Neoteric goes to find the vernier calipers
13:33 <@Drag0n> micromiters?
13:38 <@Shadow404> man, who ever posted the failblog.org site, damn, i hate you, now im addicted
13:52 <@polerin> Neoteric: ... yes, that's exactly what I'm measureing
13:52 <@polerin> Because you know, that's what I'm all about.
13:53 <@aestetix> Shadow404: do you like sausage?
13:59 < ware> dont go changin'... to try to please me...
13:59 < ware> you never let me down beeffooorrreee
14:04 < nated0g_wrk> 4.50 in tupelo ms?
14:05 <@polerin> If I remeber correctly
14:05 <@polerin> Lissa: you at the keyboard?
14:06 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvT9oEqB070
14:07 < eryc> i love how DC has some of the cheapest gas in the country
14:07 < eryc> http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx
14:08 < eryc> thank you bitches for making my gas cheap
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14:25 <@nachoguy> Ware, I saw video of him singing that song last night
14:25 <@nachoguy> it was from 78, iirc
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14:27 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4
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14:32 <@polerin> Black holes
14:32 <@polerin> a) not a hole at all . it.s a compression of matter so dense that light cannot escape, thus appearing spherical and dark . so no worries about falling in accidentally. Unless you have a dog named Lassie, in which case, all bets are off.
14:32 <@polerin> haha
14:33 <@aestetix> negro pussy
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14:39 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeafsydZaV4
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14:41 <@polerin> aestetix: what's your issue recently
14:41 <@polerin> you're reverting :P
14:42 <+MaxieZ> After much rebooting....mxzbot now does unixtimestamps...
14:42 <+MaxieZ> utime
14:42 <@Evilpig> ~skydogtime
14:42 <+MxZBot> Evilpig: i haven't a clue
14:42 <@Evilpig> you broke it
14:42 <@wontonjoe> anyone from 615 trying to call me?
14:43 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: why, what are you wearing?
14:43 <@wontonjoe> lol
14:43 <+MaxieZ> ~date
14:43 <+MxZBot> Fri Sep 12 2008 15:43:24 Eastern  -  Fri Sep 12 2008 14:43:24 Central  -  Fri Sep 12 2008 10:03:29 Skydog Time
14:43 <+MaxieZ> ~time
14:43 <+MxZBot> time is not ~date
14:43 <@wontonjoe> just got two calls today but im at work and my cell vm is broke
14:43 <@Evilpig> hehe I put that one in there
14:43 <@wontonjoe> go iphone lol
14:43 < eryc> ~unixtime
14:43 <+MxZBot> wish i knew, eryc
14:43 <+MaxieZ> ~utime
14:43 <+MxZBot> Current Unix Time is 1221248624
14:43 <+MaxieZ> ~utime 1221248624
14:43 <+MxZBot> September 12, 2008 : 15:43:44
14:43 <@Corydon76-dig> ~epoch
14:43 <+MxZBot> epoch is from 1,1,1970 at midnight right?
14:44 < eryc> ~utime FFFFFFFFF
14:44 <+MxZBot> Invalid Time
14:44 < eryc> ~utime -1
14:44 <+MxZBot> Invalid Time
14:44 < eryc> ~utime 9999999999999999999
14:44 <+MxZBot> December 31, 1969 : 18:59:59
14:44 <@Evilpig> ~utime 9999999999
14:44 <@Evilpig> poor bot is gonna die again
14:44 <@Evilpig> poor bot is gonna die again
14:44 <@Evilpig> ~utime 9999999999
14:45 <@critch> ~utime 666
14:45 <+MxZBot> December 31, 1969 : 19:11:06
14:45 <+MaxieZ>  IGNORE <evilpig> utime 9999999999
14:45 <@Corydon76-dig> ~utime 2147483648
14:45 <+MxZBot> December 13, 1901 : 15:45:52
14:45 <@Corydon76-dig> ~utime 2147483647
14:45 <+MxZBot> January 18, 2038 : 22:14:07
14:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Nice, it's unsigned
14:46 <@Evilpig> heh.
14:46 <@Evilpig> utime 9999999998
14:46 <@Evilpig> ~utime 9999999998
14:46 <@Corydon76-dig> (with a signed backend)
14:46 < eryc> ~utime 0
14:46 <+MxZBot> Current Unix Time is 1221248802
14:46 < eryc> ~utime 1
14:46 <+MxZBot> December 31, 1969 : 19:00:01
14:47 < eryc> ~utime 0.5
14:47 <+MxZBot> Invalid Time
14:47 <+MaxieZ> Corydon76-dig: I'm just using perl's localtime
14:47 <@Corydon76-dig> MaxieZ: ah
14:47 <@Evilpig> I updated the pisg the other night and the random thumbs seem to be working again for the people that sent me two or three thumbnails
14:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, Asterisk now uses ast_localtime and ast_strftime, which contains measurements of fractions of a second
14:48 <@Evilpig> and it isn't random at load time.  just when the script makes the html at night
14:48 <@nachoguy> Damn you ware.  failblog is ruining/making my day
14:48 <@Corydon76-dig> and also timezone-independent conversions
14:49 <@coil> ~utime 1337
14:49 <+MxZBot> December 31, 1969 : 19:22:17
14:51 <+MaxieZ> Evilpig: I don't think there ever existed  "skydogtime"
14:51 <@Evilpig> it might have just been date
14:52 <@Evilpig> my memory is shit anyway
14:52 <@SkyDog_> So is skydogtime.
14:52 <@SkyDog_> It's random.
14:53 < eryc> why is the bot in UTC-3 timezone?
14:54 < eryc> which is like, Brazil
14:54 < eryc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC-3
14:54 <@brimstone> it's on vacation
14:55 <@wontonjoe> our asteria here went wacko just a few minutes ago
14:55 <@brimstone> wontonjoe!
14:55 <@wontonjoe> it leans towards not working at all to barely working
14:55 <@wontonjoe> BRIMSTONE!
14:56 <@nachoguy> asteria or asterisk?
14:56 <@wontonjoe> asteria q viewer
14:56 <@wontonjoe> queue
14:56 <@wontonjoe> er whatever
14:57 <@brimstone> ug, today is plagued with keyboard problems
14:57 <+MaxieZ> The bot's in eastern
14:58 <@nachoguy> we had trouble with it, so we passed.
14:59 <@wontonjoe> my company is using it in a full call center environment
14:59 <@wontonjoe> CRAP
14:59 <@wontonjoe> asterisk great, asteria, err i think the verdict is out on that, at least with our implementation of it
15:00  * brimstone is not surprised
15:00 <@brimstone> no one seems to do a gui/queue view/call center well
15:00 <@nachoguy> I really like queuemetrics
15:01 <@nachoguy> the click/barge thing is basically epic fail
15:01 < eryc> MaxieZ: Eastern is UTC-5
15:02 < eryc> i think your bot is swimming in the atlantic somewhere
15:02 <@nachoguy> greenland
15:02 <@coil> good
15:02 <@coil> maybe it's telling you to jump in an ocean
15:03 <@critch> Gotta love Sean Kennedy, http://sean-kennedy.livejournal.com/193317.html
15:09 <+MaxieZ> eryc: Why do you think it's UTC-3?
15:11 <@brimstone> ~date
15:11 <+MxZBot> Fri Sep 12 2008 16:11:53 Eastern  -  Fri Sep 12 2008 15:11:53 Central  -  Fri Sep 12 2008 05:42:20 Skydog Time
15:14 < eryc> because of
15:14 < eryc> ~utime 1
15:14 <+MxZBot> December 31, 1969 : 19:00:01
15:15 <@brimstone> but wouldn't that be UTC-6?
15:15 <@brimstone> erm, -%
15:15 <@brimstone> fail
15:15 <@brimstone> UTC-5 ?
15:15 < eryc> epic fail!
15:15 <@brimstone> epoch fail
15:16 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1xqm7gmBjs
15:21 <@Dagmar> You guys forget about DST change
15:21 <@Dagmar> Right now, central is -5, eastern is -6.
15:21 <@Dagmar> er eastern is -4 rather
15:25 < eryc> i was using 22 hour days so.. epoch fail
15:26 < eryc> http://sagemath.org/tour.html
15:51 <+MaxieZ> Wait...
15:51 <+MaxieZ> 19:00 is 5 hours behind
15:51 <+MaxieZ> ~24-19
15:51 <+MxZBot> 5
15:51 <+MaxieZ> You weren't counting military time
15:52 <@Dagmar> IT R SIMPLE MATHS
15:52 <@Dagmar> real	0m0.000s
15:52 <@Dagmar> user	0m0.000s
15:52 <@Dagmar> sys	0m0.000s
15:52 <@Dagmar> @#$@#$@ time command
15:52 <@Dagmar> Fri Sep 12 15:52:24 CDT 2008
15:52 <@Dagmar> Fri Sep 12 20:52:32 UTC 2008
15:53 <@Dagmar> Second invocation is simply: `TZ=UTC date`
15:54 < eryc> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3159/2807838577_83cbed0126_o.jpg?t=1053139
16:01 <+MaxieZ> eryc: lmao
16:05 <@Evilpig> heh.  pedobear
16:08 <@Dagmar> Some of that isn't worksafe
16:09 <@Evilpig> i'd say questionable.  it isn't showing anything but I wouldn't wanna push it
16:09 <@Dagmar> There's enough skin there
16:09 <@Dagmar> I got about that far down the page and killed the tab
16:09 <@Evilpig> what all in involved with setting up a radius server?
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16:11 <@Dagmar> Not much
16:11 <@Dagmar> Just a PO to Cisco
16:12 <@Evilpig> POs cost money.  I need more of the free stuff.  guess I have some research to do this weekend
16:13 <@Dagmar> Then the magic word is "FreeRADIUS".
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16:14 <@Evilpig> the cisco 1200 ap needs a radius server to do wpa.  bah
16:14 <@Dagmar> ayup
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16:26 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llgL7mGYVTI
16:26 < ware> is it bad i whack it to that
16:28 <@brimstone> if you have to ask, then yes
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16:44 < eryc> Evilpig: freeradius is pretty good
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16:59 <@nachoguy> ~udate 1220914846
16:59 <+MxZBot> nachoguy: I don't know, could you explain it?
16:59 <@nachoguy> ~utime 1220914846
16:59 <+MxZBot> September 8, 2008 : 19:00:46
17:00 <+MaxieZ> ~8ball MxZBot, do you love us?
17:00 <+MxZBot> maxiez: Reply hazy, try again.
17:09 <@Evilpig> ~8ball MxZBot, are you an 8 bit program on a 64bit platform?
17:09 <+MxZBot> evilpig: It is certain.
17:13 < eryc> ~8ball MxZBot, How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?
17:13 <+MxZBot> eryc: You may rely on it.
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17:21 <@Evilpig> http://wilpig.org/temp/cisco.jpg  <-- what I am working on
17:22 <@Evilpig> one of my switches has a bag gigabit module that I have to replace on monday
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17:35 < eryc> http://www.weather.com/newscenter/webcams/hurricaneike_webcams.html
17:41 <@polerin> wow, CBS news is going after McCain on falsehoods and his negative bs adds
17:41 <@polerin> and tapping on obama every once in awhile
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17:46 <@Dagmar> That's because for some reason the press frowns on outright lying.
17:46 <@polerin> you'd think, but I haven't been able to tell that from the past couple campaigns :P
17:47 <@polerin> and from the coverage of the campain up untill now
17:47 <@Dagmar> They also don't have much else to talk about right now other than "OMG TEXAS IS GOING TO DROWN"
17:47 <@polerin> hell you'd think that would be one of the top things to talk about
17:47 <@polerin> I'm not complaining
17:47 <@Dagmar> Some counties on the shoreline are going to be about 80% underwater.
17:47 <@polerin> Please, take them both to task
17:48 <@Dagmar> I'm just glad they've finally found a place in what the McCain people have been saying that not so far from reality they can't even begin to decide how to call them on it
17:49 <@Dagmar> Some of it's been so "out there" as to almost be a non-sequitir from reality, like Palin's response to the query about the Bush Doctrine
17:49 <@Dagmar> How the hell do you respond to that other than to just gasp "How do you get dressed in the morning without winding up with your pants on your head?"
17:51 <@polerin> yeah
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17:51 <@polerin> what freaked me out is that she admitted that at least part of global warming was caused by humain action.
17:51 <@polerin> err
17:51 <@polerin> human
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18:16 < nated0g> evening folks
18:22 <@rhia> and Palin is hand in glove with the trophy hunter businesses (that bring in outside money for hunting licenses, lodging, etc) so ... the moose and elk populations are dwindling?
18:23 <@rhia> don't cap trophy hunting, shoot wolves from helicopters instead!
18:23 <@rhia> like 20 packs of wolves can do 1/4 the damage one season of big game trophy hunters can
18:23 <@polerin> rhia: not to mention pushing to revoke tribal subsistance hunting.
18:24 <@rhia> Palin is WRONG on Every Fricking Issue
18:24 <@rhia> gots to go eat..... grrr ... sorry
18:25 < nated0g> so how much is gas up to now ?
18:28 < eryc> i like palin
18:28 < eryc> shes super cool!
18:28 < eryc> dont pick on her you bully!
18:34 <@Catonic> nated0g: you can buy a tricked out huffy for what it costs to fill up an expedition.
18:38 <@Drag0n> she doesnt even know what is required of the job she is running for
18:38 <@rhia> eryc: nice try, you're troll fu is lacking
18:38 <@Catonic> rhia: gutless sissy
18:39 <@Catonic> If ya can't run with 'em, ad hominem.
18:40 <@Catonic> can you have a mid-life crisis in your twenties if you don't plan to turn forty?
18:42  * Catonic spots something shiny on the floor and wanders off
18:42 <@rhia> Catonic: i'm not the gutless one, i've taken on everyone in channel, including Dagmar and Cerkit
18:42 <@rhia> and walked way with my head held high every time
18:46 < eryc> your taking me on?
18:46 <@Drag0n> your not worth the brain cells
18:46 < eryc> ya i agree
18:47 <@rhia> nope, stated, done - no argument to be had
18:47 < eryc> all i do is drop links and call people stupid
18:48 < eryc> i dont troll either, i am just very sarcastic
18:49 <@rhia> your sarcasm can use some polishing <g>
18:49 <@rhia> but, np =)
18:50 <@Drag0n> your sarcasam fu is also lacking
18:50 < eryc> i thought it was cute
18:51 < eryc> my creativity tends to wane with the end of the work day tho
18:53 <@Drag0n> all good sarcasm needs something obviously over the top or silly to make it distinguishable from true belief. but i can understand the end of day weakness, course i dont have that as of 2 days ago...thanks to getting layed off
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18:56 <@someninjamaster> evening all
18:56 <@sdodson> rhia: Wait, what's wrong with Palin?
18:56 <@Drag0n> whats not wrong, its a shorter list
18:57 <@sdodson> SHES HOT!
18:57 <@Drag0n> then go sleep with her, dont vote for her
18:57 < eryc> yea but i want to see her on tv every day too!
18:57 <@Drag0n> then move to alaska
18:57 <@sdodson> srsly
18:57 <@sdodson> I doubt she's on tv every day in Alaska.
18:57 <@ziplock> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/12/1657211&from=rss
18:58 <@sdodson> Do they even have TVs in Alaska?
18:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Poor Drag0n
18:58 < eryc> i think they have new coal powered tvs up there
18:58 < eryc> and you have to turn a crank on the side
18:59 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: what's wrong with Drag0n?
18:59 <@Corydon76-dig> laid off
18:59 < eryc> i want to get laid too
19:00  * Corydon76-dig ties up eryc and tosses him into The Toolbox bar
19:00 <@sdodson> I'm scared. I think the world is going to implode.
19:00 < eryc> the greeks hacked into the LHC and are making a black hole as we speak
19:01 < eryc> imminent DOOM!
19:02 <@sdodson> No, we're just going to run out of gas.
19:02 <@sdodson> So much worse than blackholes.
19:05 <@sdodson> right right?
19:07 < eryc> give me death or give me oil!
19:08 <@Evilpig> do you want to leave that choice in our hands?
19:09 <@Drag0n> how about death by oil?
19:10 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJkvQOTxdCY
19:11 < eryc> Evilpig: no but i have something i can leave in your hands
19:12 < eryc> oh and dont forget the tissue
19:14 < AstralSin> WOOOO i got a call back from Gallup Corp today, they're flying me to Omaha for an interview in a couple weeks
19:16 <@Dagmar> Don't mention cell phones.
19:16 <@Dagmar> Whatever you do.
19:17 <@Dagmar> They'll brand you as a heretic and you won't get the job.
19:17 < AstralSin> uhh ok
19:17 <@Dagmar> I would suggest leaving your cell phone in the car even.
19:17 < AstralSin> they called me on a cell phone
19:17 <@Dagmar> Tell them you have a land line and you don't know what all the fuss about this newfangled celumar stuff si about
19:17 < AstralSin> i don't get the connection between gallup and cell phones
19:17 <@Dagmar> They don't call them.
19:17 <@Dagmar> It's starting to seriously skew their survey results.
19:18 <@Drag0n> isnt gallup the polling company?
19:18 < AstralSin> they do alot more than just surveys
19:18 <@Dagmar> Basically, their surveys now represent 1,000 old people who can't afford anything but a landline
19:18 < eryc> no they make horses
19:18 < eryc> lots and lots of horsies
19:19 < eryc> with pony tails
19:20 < AstralSin> they do penetration testing all over the globe, thats what this job i'm interviewing for
19:20 <@Drag0n> ahh
19:21 < AstralSin> i haven't spoken to them in 3-4 months, i did 2 phone interviews but they hired someone internally but they said today that he wasn't working out
19:31 <@ziplock> anyone else having dramatic slowdowns?  My speedtest to TX over DSL is about what I'd expect from a bad day on dialup.
19:34 <@Catonic> eryc: death, or cake?
19:34 < AstralSin> no, my speed is ok, a tad below normal but i think there have been some recent additions to the load on this cable node lately
19:35 <@Catonic> rhia: this is irc. Having an argument on IRC about about akin to beating a retard at jeopardy. It's a hollow victory, but a victory nonetheless.
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20:01 < eryc> Catonic: pie!
20:09 <@coil> hi
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20:23 < warrenjon> does anyone have a grasp on freenas?
20:23 <@Evilpig> nope.  looked at it a few times though
20:25 < warrenjon> i am looking for a nas that has snapshot and maybe volume shadow copy , that is free
20:25 <@Evilpig> good luck on that
20:30 < eryc> warrenjon: solaris zfs
20:31 < warrenjon> does freebsd have zfs support?
20:32 < warrenjon> nm i googleed it 7 does
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20:37 < geoffscoffee> evenin
20:39 < eryc> http://hanbo.en.alibaba.com/product/50420084/201016493/USB_DRIVE/USB_Flash_Disk_.html
20:41 <@Dagmar> shadow copy for free LOL
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20:44 <@Dagmar> Damn the 3D weather radar they ahve on CNN with the multitouch display is just some new kind of pornography
20:44 <@Dagmar> Sweet jesus it's nice
20:44 < geoffscoffee> I love the meat USB stick
20:46 <@sdodson> warrendubz: not very well supported
20:47 < warrendubz> talking about zfs on freebsd or the freenas project?
20:47 <@Catonic> Dagmar: probably a Baron Systems product
20:47 <@Catonic> VIPIR...
20:48 <@Dagmar> Right now
20:48 <@Dagmar> I only want to kill the people who make our SmartCDUs
20:49 <@sdodson> CDUs?
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21:15 < geoffscoffee> bah! stoopid wifi
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21:19 <@Dagmar> I just can't get over what a lying whore Palin is
21:19 < geoffscoffee> oh geeze
21:21 <@Dagmar> Have you SEEn the line of complete BULLSHIT she spins when asked about abortion?
21:21 <@Dagmar> ...and she completely refused to even try to answer the question about gays
21:22 < geoffscoffee> Dagmar, I'm gonna lay something on ya.  I'm pro-life and I agree with her
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21:26 < geoffscoffee> hey dc0de
21:26 < geoffscoffee> tough day?
21:29 <@Dagmar> geoffscoffee: If she came out and said "I don't believe in any abortions" that would at least be honest.
21:29 <@Dagmar> She spewed out 100% doublespeak there tho
21:29 < warrendubz> stupid wiki addons -- Dagmar (November 29, 1921-October 9, 2001) was a buxom television personality.
21:29 < warrendubz> She was born in Huntington, West Virginia, United States, as Virginia Ruth Egnor . In the 1940s, she became a fashion photographer's model and later entered show business.
21:29 < warrendubz> She developed a very successful "dumb blonde" act, and appeared on such shows as Milton Berle's ''Texaco Star Theater'', ''Broadway Open House'', ''Dagmar's Canteen'', and ''Hollywood Squares''.
21:29 < warrendubz> She was married three times, to Angelo Lewis, Danny Dayton and Richard Hinds. She died at age 79.
21:30 < geoffscoffee> woah
21:30 <@Dagmar> "I know we can reach a compromise and agree that there should be a choice to have fewer abortions"
21:30 <@Dagmar> SOUNDS real pretty
21:30 <@Dagmar> Means absolutely nothig.
21:30 < geoffscoffee> kinda like "Change"?
21:31 < geoffscoffee> DOH!
21:31 <@Dagmar> Don't even start.
21:31 <@Dagmar> Don't EVEN start motherfucker
21:31 < geoffscoffee> oh, chill
21:31 <@Dagmar> I call red herring anyway
21:31 <@Dagmar> I could give two shits if people vote for Obama or not
21:31  * geoffscoffee shouts RON PAUL FOR PREZ!
21:31 <@Dagmar> I'll probably be putting up signs that say "FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, NOT MCCAIN!"
21:31 < AstralSin> i've joined the Who Gives A Shit '08 ticket
21:31 < warrendubz> the bush bashing that barrack is doing will not last to much longing in this election
21:32 <@Dagmar> "ANYONE BUT MCCAIN 2008"
21:32 < geoffscoffee> I'll vote for the person that will screw with my rights the least every time
21:32 <@Dagmar> Sounds like you're going to be voting Obama then
21:32 < geoffscoffee> riiiiiiiight
21:33 <@Dagmar> You think I'm kidding?
21:33 <@Dagmar> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/08/obama_to_palin_dont_mock_the_c.html
21:33 <@Dagmar> ... The safeguard is essential, Obama continued, "because we don't always have the right person."
21:33 < ghul> I'm personally opting for Cthulhu this time around. Why vote for a lesser evil?
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21:34 < geoffscoffee> Mr. I won't take your guns away b/c I don't have the votes and his VP, the AUTHOR of the AWB?
21:34 <@Dagmar> "The reason that you have this principle is not to be soft on terrorism. It's because that's who we are. That's what we're protecting," Obama said, his voice growing louder and the crowd rising to its feet to cheer. "Don't mock the Constitution. Don't make fun of it. Don't suggest that it's not American to abide by what the founding fathers set up. It's worked pretty well for over 200 years."
21:35 < geoffscoffee> he's gotta read that bill o' rights a few times
21:35 < geoffscoffee> brbr, wife calling
21:35 < ghul> geoff, the AWB was pretty much a joke anyway.
21:35 <@sdodson> AWB?
21:35 < ghul> Assault Weapons Ban.
21:35 < ghul> It had more holes than a piece of swiss cheese.
21:36 <@Dagmar> http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/showthread.php?t=570251
21:36 <@sdodson> put there by shooting it with aw
21:37 < ghul> Dagmar: Yeah, I'm not voting for Obama because of things like that.
21:37 < ghul> Though McCain doesn't exactly excite me, either.
21:38 <@Dagmar> I should hope you won't be voting for McCain either then
21:38 <@Dagmar> ...since he'ls more than happy with not having to worry about habeas corpus or cause
21:38 < ghul> I'm probably going to do a write-in for Cthulhu.
21:38 <@Dagmar> If you doubt McCain, the terrorists win.
21:38 < AstralSin> i think everyone in america should write themselves in
21:39 < ghul> Then nobody would win, Astral.
21:39 < ghul> It would be a 300 million way tie.
21:39 < ghul> That would actually be really funny.
21:39 <@Dagmar> Ya'll argument on assault weapons falls flat to my ears
21:40 <@Dagmar> A semi-aut weapon hasn't been bundled in with any of these things to my knowledge
21:40 <@Dagmar> Fully automatic, definitely.
21:40 < ghul> Why do you think they should be restricted, Dagmar?
21:40 <@Dagmar> You can own an AK or that chinese knockoff in Cali, no problem
21:40 <@Dagmar> They have to have a rifle stock and NOT be configged for fully automatic fire.
21:40 < ghul> Fully automatic weapons are already covered under the national firearms act.
21:40 < ghul> The AWB doesn't really do anything for that.
21:40 <@Dagmar> because neither you, nor hunters, need to be able to empty thirty rounds at fucking anything
21:41 <@Dagmar> If you need them to shoot at "the gubment" it's not that fucking hard to convert them
21:41 <@sdodson> I unloaded thirty rounds on your mom's chin.
21:41 < ghul> Hahaha
21:41 <@Dagmar> You can do that when and if the time comes
21:41 <@Dagmar> If you need to empty a clip at a deer in one go, you need to learn to fucking aim
21:42 < ghul> Ok, let's say I live in a bad neighborhood, where there's lots of robberies done in groups.
21:42 < ghul> Are you saying I shouldn't be able to have the firepower to defend myself?
21:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Or you believe that government should be afraid of their citizens, not the other way around.
21:42 < ghul> I think something like a tech 9 would be sufficient for scaring off a group of home invaders.
21:42 <@sdodson> I'm not afraid of my government, but I'm afraid of Corydon76-dig.
21:43 < ghul> Though I agree with you about hunting and so on.
21:43 <@Dagmar> ghul: I'm saying you're a dumbass if you live somewhere like that and don't have the sense to not rub it in the noses of the cops that you've modded your rifle to fire full auto, and the cops aren't likely to bother you much about it because it's not going to come up
21:43 <@Dagmar> You can get a CCR for a tec-9.
21:43 <@Corydon76-dig> ghul: actually, you need several people with weapons to effectively defend a home against invaders
21:43 <@Dagmar> er CCP
21:43 <@Dagmar> In Tennessee even.
21:43 <@Corydon76-dig> ghul: otherwise, one good shot by them, and it's all over
21:43 < ghul> I'm not talking about your organized, police raid type invaders.
21:43 <@Dagmar> When I worked at Franklin Micro Systems, my boss got one for it.
21:44 < ghul> I'm talking about wanna-be thugs who can't aim.
21:44 < ghul> Though really, a shotgun would probably be better for that situation.
21:44 <@sdodson> I can't aim either.
21:44 <@Dagmar> ...so before you go off the deep end about an assault weapons ban, make sure you actually know what they're banning.
21:44 <@Corydon76-dig> ghul: as someninja is fond of saying, even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut
21:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Hopefully, it won't be either of yours
21:45 <@Dagmar> I'm still trying to figure out why they didn't laugh at him about that on general principle
21:45 <@Dagmar> You can't exactly stick a tec-9 down the front of your pants
21:45 < ghul> I'm sure some kid has tried that.
21:45 <@sdodson> why can't you?
21:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Back, maybe... with a jacket over top
21:45 <@Dagmar> Maybe if you were to, I dunno, put it inside a stuffed animal you could conceal it
21:45 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: makes it hard to walk
21:46 <@sdodson> Thugs can't walk straight anyway.
21:46 < ghul> Plus, you might accidentally shoot your testicles off.
21:46 <@Dagmar> ...and your lower torse
21:46 <@Dagmar> er torso
21:46 < ghul> Have you guys ever noticed how thugs walk like penguins?
21:46 <@sdodson> there's a reason their pants are at their knees
21:46 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: no, but it makes you look like you've got a gun shoved down your drawers
21:46 <@Dagmar> That would be from all the buttsex in jail
21:47 <@Dagmar> Actually the real answer is a lot less amusing.
21:47 <@Dagmar> I'm going to go smoke a cigarette now before I start screaming and can't stop
21:47 <@Catonic_lp> "Turn around, boy, and let me see if I recognize you from prison."
21:47 < ghul> Hahaha
21:47 <@Dagmar> These fucking overgrown extension cords we have here are getting on my last nerve tonight
21:47 < eryc> cant you get arrested now in florida for baggy pants
21:48 <@Corydon76-dig> ghul: why don't you show up to the 2600 meetings?
21:48 <@Dagmar> The fashion police will cite you
21:48 < ghul> I've never been to one before.
21:48 < ghul> I just found out this channel existed a couple of days ago.
21:48 <@Corydon76-dig> You should go.  I need more cute guys to leer at
21:48 < eryc> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0903081pants1.html
21:48 <@Dagmar> Whether or not these fucking things will actually bind to the LDAP server seems to be entirely goddamn random
21:49 < ghul> eryc: That's great.
21:49 < ghul> Do any of you guys remember when Murfreesboro tried to pass that law about people who smelled?
21:49 <@Dagmar> Yep
21:50 <@Dagmar> "Anti-hippie Law"
21:50 <@Dagmar> lol
21:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Nope
21:50 < ghul> I laughed at the time, and mocked them pretty heavily.
21:50 < ghul> Then I started going to different places in antioch.
21:50 <@Dagmar> hahaha
21:50 <@Corydon76-dig> I dunno about anti-hippy.  More like anti-bum
21:51 <@sdodson> wtf is dagmar yammering on about now?
21:51 < CRasH180> anti-hippie, lol
21:51 < ghul> If you smell like fermented diapers, you deserve every bad thing that happens.
21:51 <@Corydon76-dig> There's something seriously wrong if you can't manage to take a bath at least once a day
21:51 <@Dagmar> Wow that's a mental image I didn't need
21:51  * Corydon76-dig reaches for the brain bleach
21:51 < geoffscoffee> Corydon in a bath?
21:51 < ghul> I swear, I went to the best buy in antioch during one of the sales tax holidays, and I couldn't get away from people who smelled like they hadn't bathed in weeks.
21:51 <@sdodson> wait, fermented diapers?
21:51 < geoffscoffee> *shiver*
21:52 < ghul> Hahaha.
21:52 <@Dagmar> Considering that Murfreesboro is like 60% MTSU, "anti-hippie" is where that sort of law would come into play most often
21:52  * Catonic_lp takes notes on how to gross out Corydon
21:52 < ghul> Think of a trunk full of used diapers, that have cooked in the summer heat for a week.
21:52 <@Dagmar> I really must smoke now
21:52 < ghul> And you have fermented diapers.
21:52 <@Dagmar> One of the fucking CDUs that WAS working has gone back to NOT doing so again
21:52 < CRasH180> wow, that is an image and a smell I did not need
21:52 <@Dagmar> I hate this shit more than fire is hot right now
21:52  * geoffscoffee deals with diapers daily
21:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic_lp: trouble is, you find those ways, and no woman will go near you, either
21:53 < CRasH180> fermented diapers? Or, do you normally leave full diapers in your car to roast in the summer heat?
21:53 <@Dagmar> If you get caught fermenting diapers you should get a WMD charge dropped on your head
21:53 <@Dagmar> Weapons of Mass Disgustion
21:53 < CRasH180> lol
21:53 < geoffscoffee> i just found out my cat will attack me for a piece of string cheese
21:53 < ghul> It gives new meaning to biological warfare.
21:53 < CRasH180> rofl
21:54 <@Corydon76-dig> geoffscoffee: I had a cat growing up that ate peas
21:54 <@Catonic_lp> I have a coworker who is developing biological weapons in his spare time.
21:54 < geoffscoffee> and this in the not too social tomcat
21:54 <@Catonic_lp> To the ordinary person, they look like "green beans" and "roasted chicken"
21:54 < ghul> Catonic: Does that mean he's not bathing?
21:54 < CRasH180> My mom has a cat like that
21:54 <@GodFix> anyone know a free screen/video cature util?
21:54 < CRasH180> start petting the cat for five seconds and it starts hissing at you
21:55 <@Corydon76-dig> If someone ever feels like getting me an expensive gift, an F1 Savannah cat would be great
21:55 < ghul> GodFix: Have you tried fraps?
21:55 < CRasH180> F1 Savannah cat?
21:55 <@Catonic_lp> He dropped a hard drive the other day and broke one of the containers.... stunk up the entire building, and we had to throw the trash can away.
21:55 < ghul> Is fraps even worth using these days?
21:55 <@Catonic_lp> fapp.com
21:55 <@GodFix> I'll try it.
21:55 <@Corydon76-dig> CRasH180: they start at $5k
21:55 < CRasH180> woah
21:55 < ghul> Fraps used to be good for doing vid captures of games.
21:55 <@Corydon76-dig> CRasH180: cross between an African serval and a domestic cat
21:56 < ghul> There's probably something much better out now.
21:56 < CRasH180> Ah
21:56 <@Corydon76-dig> CRasH180: expected life of 19 years and adult weight of 35 lbs
21:56 < CRasH180> wholy crap
21:56 <@Corydon76-dig> CRasH180: also, witll let you walk it on a leash, plays in water, and will play fetch
21:56 < CRasH180> That cat would not just bite you for your string cheese, it would eat your entire arm
21:56 < geoffscoffee> sounds more like a mtn lion
21:56 < CRasH180> http://www.savannahcatbreed.com/pictures.shtml
21:57 <@Corydon76-dig> CRasH180: and they have great dispositions, very playful and gentle cats
21:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, and they tend to be indoor cats
21:57 < CRasH180> scroll half-way down the page and you can see the cat going from head to floor all the way to the kitchen counter
21:58 < CRasH180> well, 1/4 the way down
21:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Aren't they great?  I'd take allergy medicines for 20 years if I could have one
21:58 < CRasH180> I would not want that sleepy on my head at night though. It would smother you
21:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Sadies' Pets in Clarksville has an F2 male for sale now for $4500
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22:00 < CRasH180> Most Savannahs will fall between $1,500 and $6,000.
22:00 < CRasH180> http://www.savannahcatbreed.com/breeds.shtml
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22:03 < geoffscoffee> frickin' wifi connection is flakey!  ARG!
22:06 < geoffscoffee> what did i miss?
22:06 < ghul> I didn't see you exit.
22:06 < ghul> Check PMs
22:07 < geoffscoffee> my connection is 'lacking" here on the back deck for some reason tonight
22:08 < geoffscoffee> tanks, bud
22:08 < ghul> No problem.
22:10 < geoffscoffee> it's just no fun without Dagmar  :(
22:11 < ghul> Maybe he'll come back after his nicotine fix.
22:13 <@Dagmar> Back deck where?
22:14 < geoffscoffee> my place
22:14 <@Dagmar> ah
22:14 < geoffscoffee> out in Antioch
22:15 < geoffscoffee> hip, happenin' joint, but the waitress went to bed
22:15 < geoffscoffee> so NO TIP FOR HER tonight!
22:15 <@Dagmar> Bummer.
22:15 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to start going from unit to unit in person if I'm going to get the rest of these fuckers upgraded tonight
22:16 <@coil> douche
22:16 <@Catonic_lp> geoffscoffee: happens
22:16 <@Dagmar> it takes too damn long for an ssh session to negotiate to these sluggish embedded monsters
22:16 <@Catonic_lp> ran into a waitress at a bowling alley, she was out with her friends...
22:16 <@Catonic_lp> ran into her later at the place where she worked, and started chatting...
22:16 <@Catonic_lp> I asked her about another group that met there about how they tipped... she said poorly...
22:17 <@Corydon76-dig> geoffscoffee: would you like me to come 'wait' on you?
22:17 <@Catonic_lp> then the group that I was with (which included a former waiter) skewered her constantly behind her back about the level of service meeting the gratuity
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22:19 < geoffscoffee> serving is one hard job
22:19 <@Corydon76-dig> I have homemade ice cream
22:20 < geoffscoffee> http://www.ragingserver.com/
22:20 < geoffscoffee> great read, Nashville server
22:20 < geoffscoffee> I've been off sweets since that big black cake
22:20 <@Corydon76-dig> You enjoyed that big black cock, didn't you?
22:21 <@Corydon76-dig> With the creamy icing?
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22:24  * geoffscoffee is so ashamed
22:24 <@Corydon76-dig> When you kick me, I can't see the reason
22:25 <@brimstone> get a better client
22:25 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: why not?
22:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Dunno, just don't
22:26 <@brimstone> what are you using?
22:26 <@sdodson> i feel motivated to kick you just so I can insult your mother in the reason
22:26 <@Corydon76-dig> KSirc
22:27 <@someninjamaster> well goodlettsville is completely out of gas
22:29 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: My mother was a bitch from hell when I was growing up.  You want to insult me, you'd have to say she was a good mother.
22:29 < geoffscoffee> lol
22:31 <@brimstone> she was a good mother.... in bed!
22:32 <@Catonic_lp> brimstone: how interesting of you to bring that topic up.
22:33 < eryc> i vunder vut freud vould think
22:36 <@Catonic_lp> eryc,  he'd think your mother is great in bed, but don't call him uncle Siggy
22:39 < geoffscoffee> my cat is now begging for cheese...must be a full moon
22:40 <@Catonic_lp> I predict catshit all over the place.
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22:42 <@sdodson> cats suck
22:43 <@Catonic_lp> But can we teach them to swallow. That's where the money is.
22:44 <@sdodson> Catonic_lp: good one!
22:45 <@someninjamaster> omg the new microsoft suck so bad
22:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Clearly, MS needs to liquidate the company and give the money back to the shareholders
22:48  * sdodson wonders if someninjamaster missed the word "ads" in that previous statement
22:48 <@sdodson> walstreet?
22:48 <@someninjamaster> sdodson: i did
22:49 < eryc> whats not to like about bill gates shaking his ass?
22:49 <@sdodson> I think bill gates must have spine problems.
22:55 <@sdodson> I wonder why canonical hiring people to actually develop is news worthy. Is it because people expect them to advance things or because they're breaking new ground here by actually developing upstream?
22:59 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1TAfKIFC4U
23:01 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ZtaRUVkwA
23:01 < AstralSin> developing upstream more than anything
23:11 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgTwSXK_5dg
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23:19 <@tdc_vga> http://www.nextbignashville.net/player (please connect/stay connected --tell everyone you know)
23:19 <@tdc_vga> please
23:19 <@tdc_vga> 66 going
23:19 <@tdc_vga> trying to kill this line
23:19 <@tdc_vga> big show tomorrow night
23:21 <@tdc_vga> cricket...
23:21  * Catonic_lp is in a new york state of mind
23:22 <@Dagmar> Damn that's awesome
23:23 <@Dagmar> That new firmware isn't as compatible as maybe it should have been.
23:23 < geoffscoffee> night all
23:23 < geoffscoffee> sleepy time
23:23  * Catonic waves
23:23 <@someninjamaster> night GodFix
23:23 <@someninjamaster> 'i mean
23:23 <@someninjamaster> geoffscoffee:
23:23 <@tdc_vga> open feeds before sleep
23:24 <@tdc_vga> hahah
23:24 <@Dagmar> I think I've fucked up enough hardware for one night
23:24 <@Catonic_lp> goodnight jon-boy
23:24 <@Dagmar> tdc_vga: Fucking shoot your sound guy already
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23:24 <@Dagmar> That input isn't just a_little_ hot.  It's on fucking fire.
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23:25 <@Catonic> +4 vs -10dBm
23:25 <@tdc_vga> Dagmar: tell me about it
23:25 <@tdc_vga> he's really good honestly.... it sounds good here... it's just the mix
23:25 <@Catonic> tdc_vga: digitize source is a ordinary sound card?
23:25 <@tdc_vga> Catonic: yeah
23:25 <@tdc_vga> 88
23:25 <@tdc_vga> nice! more please hahah
23:25 <@Catonic> tell him to turn it down -14 dB
23:25 <@tdc_vga> we're trying to crash our CDN
23:26 <@Dagmar> tdc_vga: What unholy adapter do you have feeding into that line input?
23:26 <@tdc_vga> Dagmar: any better?
23:26 <@tdc_vga> Dagmar: not a happy one right now
23:26 <@Dagmar> Are you trying to feed 18VDC into the mic input or something?
23:26 <@tdc_vga> there's SO much sound coming in.. this band is LOUD for a live mix hahaha
23:26 <@Dagmar> Lemme pull the page back up
23:26 <@Catonic> Dagmar: pro sound boards output +4 dBm, consumer gear expects -10 dBm
23:26 <@Dagmar> I couldn't bear to listen to the overloading
23:27 <@Dagmar> Catonic: That doesn't much matter when it's screaming "overvoltage" to me
23:27 <@tdc_vga> overload indeed
23:27 <@Dagmar> Line inputs are +/- ONE volt.
23:27 <@tdc_vga> it's maxing out outside my control =(
23:27 <@Catonic> .707V if you want to get technical.
23:27 <@tdc_vga> 102 feeds
23:27 <@tdc_vga> hahah
23:27 <@tdc_vga> it's A LOT of noise hahaha
23:28 <@tdc_vga> wait till the hot women get on
23:28 <@tdc_vga> we have control over that mix
23:28 <@tdc_vga> hahaha
23:28 <@Dagmar> Either way, line inputs are not like "balanced" XLR
23:28 <@tdc_vga> 105
23:28 <@tdc_vga> nice
23:28 <@tdc_vga> 300 ftw
23:28 <@Dagmar> You don't get to just push as much power into them as they can stand before they catch fire
23:28 <@tdc_vga> man i want to crash the CDN
23:28 <@tdc_vga> hahah
23:28 <@Dagmar> They expect a civilized amount of current.
23:29 <@tdc_vga> Dagmar: dont we all?
23:29 <@tdc_vga> hahahha
23:29 <@Dagmar> You would probably have been better off using the headphone output of the mixing board (provided it wasn't also some crazy XLR shit) and patching that into the mic input at about 70% volume
23:29 <@Dagmar> No hjoke.
23:29 <@tdc_vga> XLR here
23:29 <@Dagmar> Ouch the board's headphone/monitor ports are also XLR only?
23:29 <@tdc_vga> Dagmar: i'm at about 15% hahahah
23:30 <@tdc_vga> everything is XLR here
23:30 <@Catonic> or... just get a pro-to-consumer converter, otherwise known as a 14 dB attenuator
23:30 <@tdc_vga> at the cannery hahah
23:30 <@tdc_vga> yeah we need our own mix to make this better
23:31 <@Dagmar> tdc_vga: WHat you need is something like my "consumer" mixer that Rattle liked to pooh-pooh so much
23:31 <@tdc_vga> this band's audio is on fire
23:31 <@tdc_vga> hahah
23:31 <@Dagmar> It has an XLR mic input you could have cheated with, because it has a *normal* headphone output
23:31 <@Catonic> But hey, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. It's not like I grew up with this, have relatives in broadcasting, and donated a 12 channel x 4 bus board to PN...
23:31 <@tdc_vga> mix SHOULD be better
23:31 <@tdc_vga> SHOULD
23:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but so long as you're using this setup it's going to overdrive at every turn
23:32 <@Dagmar> Next time do a sound check, and use the mic input, if you can't manage to get the xlr converter thing Catonic is talking about
23:32 <@tdc_vga> video look ok?
23:32 <@tdc_vga> should look DAMN good
23:32 <@Dagmar> Video is fine
23:32 <@tdc_vga> we have a 5k camera here
23:32 <@tdc_vga> stream HD quality
23:32 <@tdc_vga> hahha
23:32 <@tdc_vga> Dagmar: there's been 10 bands... 3 min for sound check each =(
23:32 <@Dagmar> Not quite in sync with the audio, but close enough
23:33 <@Catonic> or just tell the fucking sound guy to give you a -10 dBm feed instead of a +4. If he's smart, he knows what you're talking about. If he's a n00b, tell him to turn down the feed.
23:33 <@tdc_vga> i had him drop it
23:33 <@tdc_vga> but the video looks good
23:33 <@Dagmar> Hehe I think we're both used to working around insane sound rigs, just from different ends of the equation
23:33 <@Catonic> If he tells you he doesn't know how to do that... tell him to get a new job.
23:33 <@Dagmar> I'm usually having to patch INTO the XLR shit
23:33 <@Dagmar> ...not get the shit out of it
23:34 <@Catonic> Dagmar: try putting a mixer in the middle of your home stereo tape loop.
23:34 <@Dagmar> Yeah video is about a half second behind the audio
23:34 <@Catonic> Levels? What levels....
23:34 <@Dagmar> tape loop what?
23:34 <@tdc_vga> Levels we dont need stinking levels!
23:35 <@Catonic> basically, one input to the mixer follows the selector on the reciever.
23:35 <@Dagmar> Catonic: My turntables pretty much ran through the mixer and then into the computer and THEN to a second set of speakers most of the time
23:35 <@Catonic> then other inputs are fed from different devices into the board, and the reciever is kept in "tape monitor".
23:35 <@Catonic> sub busses are fed into a computer input...
23:36 <@Dagmar> It's just one of those Numark DJ mixers.  Three stereo ( & phono) inputs, one with a XLR mic input tied to it, and two outputs
23:36 <@Dagmar> er two stero outputs
23:36 <@Catonic> basically, I made a redundant audio path so I could listen to CDs through the mixer when the PC was being worked on.
23:36 <@Dagmar> Everything nice and line-level so very easy to deal with
23:36 <@Dagmar> Heaphone and monitor outputs are separate thank god
23:36 <@tdc_vga> Hot women will be on the steam in about 6 minutes
23:36 <@tdc_vga> like DAMN good looking women
23:36 <@Catonic> are they british?
23:37 <@Dagmar> Headphones for me, monitor outputs for the booth itself, and the main output to go to whatever was passing for a sound system
23:37 <@tdc_vga> Catonic: nope TN born
23:37 <@Catonic> oh: warning about that yamaha of mine I donated... it will make you go deaf if you turn up the headphone output...
23:38 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Does that mixer you mentioned have line outputs or is it ALL XLR?
23:38 <@Dagmar> It's liable to drive some people nuts if it's only XLR
23:38 <@Catonic> 24dB of headroom before it turns on the clip LEDs..
23:38 <@Dagmar> They won't know what to do with it
23:38 <@Catonic> Dagmar: it's all XLR... I have some adaptors I made, but they aren't built to take abuse.
23:38 <@Dagmar> Yeah well your other option is going to be to let people "figure something out" which is going to result in something a lot like you're hearing right now
23:39 <@Dagmar> Initiative, you can has it.
23:39 <@Catonic> Dagmar: I donated the board with the intention that it would be used to support the recording and PA needs of the con.
23:39 <@Dagmar> wrap what you got in foam and duct tape or resolder them extra heavy or something hehe
23:39 <@tdc_vga> damn this audio is still hot
23:39 <@tdc_vga> hahha
23:39 <@Dagmar> Well, I really recommend you dontate yer brainpan a bit when it comes to hooking it up if you hear something going off into the blue
23:40 <@Catonic> Dagmar: I'll do what I can to support it if I'm kept in the loop.
23:40 <@Dagmar> tdc_vga: This is because XLR and line level work pretty much fundamentally different ways
23:41 <@tdc_vga> i'm using my headphones as earplugs for this band hahah
23:41 <@Dagmar> You can put MOAR signal through XLR, but you have to have equipment manly enoough to handle it
23:42 <@Catonic> lmfao
23:42 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Hey it's basically true
23:42 <@Dagmar> XLR can go "over" and the equipment will just suck it up
23:42 <@Dagmar> You exceed that 1V ceiling with line-inputs and you get instant clipping.
23:43 <@tdc_vga> so much NOISE
23:43 <@tdc_vga> hahah
23:43 <@Catonic> that's because the pro standard is +4, which is about 10V.
23:43 <@Dagmar> A shame that standard was developed before we had decent low-power circuitry that could deal with 1V and be happy
23:44 <@tdc_vga> i LOVE this lighting guy
23:45 <@Dagmar> No comment.
23:45 <@Catonic> um... You may be right on the 1V thing...
23:45 <@Dagmar> "All the lights just sit there and look round."
23:45 <@tdc_vga> can you see the lights?
23:45 <@Dagmar> I *&am* right on the 1V thing.
23:45 <@tdc_vga> i dunno live the lights are amazing
23:45 <@Catonic> problem is that one has to consider the voltage vs impedance of the signal
23:45 <@Dagmar> I've actually built a bunch of little dinky adapters and things like that
23:45 <@Catonic> telco and some audio use 600 ohm...
23:45 <@Dagmar> Catonic: This is where XLR and line-level part ways, man
23:46 <@Catonic> and somewhere I've seen a chart about what 1mW into a 600-ohm load is...
23:46 <@Dagmar> Line level, particularyl with respect to a computer sound card, +1V is max high and -1V is max low.
23:46 <@Catonic> the voltage needed across a 600 ohm load to produce the 1 mW of power required is 0.775 of a volt.
23:46 <@Dagmar> Like, if you feed 1V straight in, you'll get an unhappy sound card, but mostly you'll see the A/D converter just stream out FFFFFFFFFFFF
23:46 <@Catonic> that's 2V P-P
23:47 <@Dagmar> Catonic: More simply represented as +/- 1V
23:47 <@Catonic> hold on, I *know* I have a copy of The Audio Cyclopedia in PDF...
23:48 <@Dagmar> I larned from Forest Mims III.
23:48 <@Dagmar> :)
23:48 <@tdc_vga> HOT CHICKS SOON
23:48 <@Dagmar> Them little teeny books Radio Shack used to sell
23:48 <@Dagmar> ...and a few of the not-quite-as-teeny ones
23:48 <@Dagmar> How to make VCOs and all that shit
23:49 <@Dagmar> Bipolar power supplies into an opamp and so forth
23:49 <@tdc_vga> Dagmar: audio better?
23:49 <@Dagmar> Catonic: There is a degree to which I have learned a number of things basically from inside out
23:49 <@tdc_vga> HOT CHICKS
23:49 <@Dagmar> tdc_vga: Considering that I turned it off here to avoid smashing my face into the desk, yes.
23:50 <@tdc_vga> WOMEN
23:50 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Trying to explain to a guy who never programmed an ADSR that I actually knew WTF I was talking about with sound generation was also fun
23:50 <@Dagmar> The C-64 did not make sound synthesis easy
23:51 <@Dagmar> Think of it like doing word-processing without the aid of whole letters.  Only ligatures and strokes.
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23:51 <@Catonic> just as well... my give a shitter wore out
23:51 <@Dagmar> Once you've done it tho, the shit you have to do with Cakewalk literally IS a cakewalk
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