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00:59 <@aestetix> This fucking rocks
01:00 <@aestetix> Turns out one of my roommates got a bunch of beer
01:23 <@Catonic> and you're easy, so you let him funnel beer into you.
01:23 <@Catonic> next thing you know, you're getting laid, but your asshole hurts in the morning.
01:26 <@aestetix> Catonic: are you trying to tell us something?
01:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, his lack of experience
01:27 <@Corydon76-dig> properly fucked, an asshole won't hurt until the afternoon after
01:27 <@Corydon76-dig> and it's more of an ache, not a hurt
01:27 <@aestetix> Does it throb at all
01:27 <@aestetix> Maybe a pulsing throb?
01:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Not in my experience
01:27 <@aestetix> (that question was directed at Catonic)
01:29 <@aestetix> Catonic: how is the sex life, anyways?
01:30 <@aestetix> Just like his answer, nonexistent.
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02:18 <@aestetix> It was a mistake.
02:18 <@aestetix> They wanted Buttle, not Tuttle.
02:18 <@aestetix> Oh, dear.
02:32 <@scort> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1232/
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04:23 <@ShadowHntr> ping
04:38 <@aestetix> dongz
04:40 <@ShadowHntr> sup?
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05:00 <@coil> nm
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07:24 <@Shadow404> meow
07:24 <@ShadowHntr> morning shadow
07:30 <@Shadow404> lawl
07:30 <@Shadow404> ShadowHntr: blame brimstone
07:30 <@ShadowHntr> heh
07:30 <@ShadowHntr> :P
08:04 <@dc0de> morning all
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08:13 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:25 < TheLightCosine> monring dole
08:32 <@Dolemite> ugh, another wonderful day of trying to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse
08:36  * Catonic runs about all nakey like
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08:55 <@oddball> Ha! Come in today to a message from our data provider.  They checked the line like I requested, and found some QoS issues in the form of packets being dropped all over the place.  The guy said something else, but the line dropped before he finished his next sentence.
08:55 <@oddball> "I'm going to -*kshhhhhhhhhhhhh*"
08:55 <@Shadow404> nice
08:56 <@oddball> I had to replay it on speakerphone since my boss was curious what I found so funny.
08:57 <@dc0de> oddball: please, convert it to mp3...
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08:57 <@oddball> heh
08:58 <@dc0de> we've had some voip issues similar...
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08:59 <@oddball> Oh, our connection was completely cutting out for a minute or two at a time yesterday afternoon.
09:01 <@Catonic> blech. All I had to eat yesterday was two pitchers of beer.
09:06 < nated0g_wrk> light beer?
09:12 <@Catonic> original pisswater
09:13 <@Catonic> last night at 2am i was praciticing bulemia...
09:13 <@Catonic> which is weird because I felt sick, but wasn't drunk enough when it usually kicks in.
09:13 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, you coming to DataCenterExpoSuperWorld in Chicago?
09:14 <@Catonic> is that really a convention or are you pulling our leg?
09:14 <@brimstone> srsly?
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09:16 <@Catonic> Live Dangerously. IRC Naked.
09:16  * Catonic wanders off to go IRC it
09:19 <@nachoguy> it's like 2 or 3 of those words
09:19 <@nachoguy> not positive which
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09:21 < TheLightCosine> oh I had an idea for one of Dole/skydog's novelty shirts
09:21 < TheLightCosine> "Be-Ware the troll!"
09:22 < TheLightCosine> =P
09:26 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : It's not in Chicago this Fall, it's in Whorelando
09:26 <@ShadowHntr> lol
09:30 <@nachoguy> hrm, there's something in Chicago that the company is considering sending people to.  Let me get the details
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09:31 <@nachoguy> ah, this one is Datacenter Dynamics
09:38 <@Dolemite> oh, that is a useless one.  they have one in a different city every month.
09:47 <@SkyDog_> http://129.59.238.115/Phreaknic12_Flyers.pdf
09:47 <@SkyDog_> Here's the PDF of the  flyer for PN12, if you wanna distribute them.
09:48 <@brimstone> omg 0day
09:49 < TheLightCosine> ?
09:51 <@polerin> oddball: yeah seriously, mp3?
09:52 <@polerin> XD
09:52 <@Dolemite> Or, alternatively, http://www.phreaknic.info/pn12/Phreaknic12_Flyers.pdf
09:53 <@Dolemite> yay, time for another meeting!
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09:55 <@Catonic> whorelando... lmfao
09:56 <@oddball> polerin: as soon as I figure out the best way to do that...
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09:59 <@oddball> oops... I think the service rep just screwed up and admitted that there was a wide spread outage yesterday.
10:00 <@brimstone> service rep rule #1: Everything is working fine and has been for quite some time
10:00 <@ShadowHntr> lol
10:00 <@brimstone> blah blah #2 refer #1
10:00 <@Catonic> Rule #2: I have _never_ seen that problem before.
10:00 <@oddball> Yeah... I really hate that standard.
10:01 <@polerin> which is why I never applied it
10:01 <@polerin> hehe
10:01 <@nachoguy> Service rep rule #3: our system is perfect, the issue must be on the customer side
10:01 <@polerin> I think that's one reasons they went along with my demands to be taken off of customer facign calls
10:01 <@polerin> facing
10:04 <@oddball> See... I have much more patience with folks when they tell me "yeah, some monkey took a back hoe to our trunk" or "one of our main switches decided it would be fun to catch fire" than "well, we need to run some tests on your equipment."
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10:12 <@Catonic> nachoguy: rule #4: blame an upstream vendor
10:12 <@Catonic> "hey our internet went down." "It's not down here. Must be $LEC's Metro-E."
10:15 <@polerin> damn
10:15 <@polerin> I can't believe you've missed rule zero
10:15 <@polerin> #0 : It's the customer's equipment.
10:17 <@Catonic> have you rebooted yet?
10:18 <@Catonic> Qwest technical support actually suggested rebooting a router multiple times until the circuit came up.
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10:20 <@rhia> Catonic: yeah, and you really should keep pushing the up/restart/walk/whatever button repeatedly when the power gone out
10:20 <@polerin> bleh
10:21 <@rhia> sends a magic signal into the ether to make everything workie again
10:22 <@polerin> also
10:22 <@polerin> make sure you unplug it for 35 seconds or more
10:22 <@polerin> no no you plugged it in too quickly
10:22 <@oddball> Heh... the tech I was talking to just paused and said "ummm... let me get someone to look at the line again and give you a call back."
10:23 <@oddball> So, apparently there are big issues beyond something melting in Atlanta.
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10:27 <@nachoguy> hey, you haven't seen anything until you watch guys that run fiber "check connectivity" with maglights
10:30 <@oddball> hey, better than just assuming that it's good.
10:31 < nated0g_wrk> who is part of digium
10:31 <@I-MOD> me
10:32 <@I-MOD> brimstone, Gregabyte_, Corydon76-dig
10:32 < nated0g_wrk> talking to a guy local to me who is wanting to do it for a customer
10:32  * I-MOD looks
10:33 <@brimstone> don't give away our location!
10:33  * I-MOD gives out brimstone's icbm address
10:33  * brimstone debates dual booting 10.5 on his laptop
10:34 <@I-MOD> nated0g_wrk, do what for a customer? pbx replacement? supplementary services?
10:34 < nated0g_wrk> he is wanting to do do VOIP for a client
10:34 <@nachoguy> doo-dooing VOIP is messy
10:35 <@I-MOD> voip termination?
10:35 <@I-MOD> so the customer doesn't have to have a dedicated telco line?
10:36 <@Catonic> oooh, that's messy...
10:36 <@I-MOD> not really
10:36 <@Catonic> just like terminating fiber, you'd wind up with a lot of gel over all the place...
10:36 <@I-MOD> put it back in your pants
10:36 <@Catonic> you don't want to get your VOIP into your intarwebs or the interwebs get sticky and jam up in the pipe
10:37 <@nachoguy> then you have to send people internets on trucks, instead of through tubes.
10:39 <@Catonic> narf!
10:39 <@nachoguy> Fjord!
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10:55 <@polerin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jbya4kxC6E    your daily dose of win.
10:59 < eryc> i got some more win for you
10:59 < eryc> http://thismight.be/offensive/uploads/2008/09/10/image/243169_Motivational.jpg
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10:59 <+MaxieZ> ~minilink
10:59 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/thismight.be/Z6RBA.jpg
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11:07 < nated0g_wrk> sorry was in a meeting
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11:07 < nated0g_wrk> networking guy asked me a off the record question if we can have voip on our dsl service
11:07 < nated0g_wrk> or the cable service that is in our area
11:08 < nated0g_wrk> mentioned asterisk and digium
11:08 < nated0g_wrk> since i try to support local people
11:08 <@I-MOD> i have to run off to class, back in an hour or so
11:09 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: you can, with the caveat that voip is sensitive to packets being delivered on time
11:09 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: so if a pipe is full, there's a much greater chance of audio dropouts due to packet delays
11:09 < nated0g_wrk> i run vonage at my house
11:10 < nated0g_wrk> what is the ideal up/down speed to have?
11:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Depends upon your call load and other usage
11:10 <@SkyDog_> I got rid of vonage yesterday...
11:10 <@Corydon76-dig> and codec
11:10 < nated0g_wrk> heavy pr0n download
11:10 <@brimstone> it's not so much speed as it is latency
11:10 <@Corydon76-dig> If you're using SIP and uncompressed audio, you need approximately 80kb/s per concurrent call
11:10 < nated0g_wrk> i am happy with vonage so far
11:11 <@SkyDog_> i never used it..
11:11 < nated0g_wrk> had it couple years on cable and dsl..with dsl im on a higher download speed
11:11 < nated0g_wrk> i dont have a cell so have to have something to talk to people on
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: you can abate some of the concerns with QoS packet priority, but that needs to be supported at your provider
11:13 < nated0g_wrk> i am the provider..well the company i work for is
11:13 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: so you've got control of the pipe end-to-end?
11:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Easiest way is to prioritize UDP packets over TCP packets
11:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Should be a very simple rule to implement in routing
11:14 < nated0g_wrk> i work for the ISP that provides service for this area of tn
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11:15 <@Corydon76-dig> The only risk there is if you watch streaming porn
11:15 < nated0g_wrk> yeah i try to avoid that at work
11:15 <@Corydon76-dig> or other live video streams, as those also use UDP
11:15 < nated0g_wrk> nice older lady sits behind me
11:15 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: I meant from your home
11:15 < nated0g_wrk> oh...my bad.
11:15 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: Is it home-to-work that you're trying to do?
11:16 < nated0g_wrk> i rarely watch pr0n.. ok that is a lie
11:16 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: recorded streams are not an issue, as those tend to use TCP
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11:16 < nated0g_wrk> but i was just asking general question for a networking guy that had asked
11:17 < nated0g_wrk> and i knew some of yall worked for a company that does voip/pbx
11:17 < nated0g_wrk> remember the couple times at pn yall had a room sponsered by a employer
11:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Right.  Trying to do voip over a common link that also carries data is a common problem
11:18 <@Corydon76-dig> The best way to solve it, IMHO, is to overprovision the link
11:19 <@Corydon76-dig> but qos provides another option when overprovisioning isn't practical
11:19 <@Corydon76-dig> And btw, you can get VERY complex when it comes to qos rules.  I just gave you the simplest rule that works for like 95% of situations
11:20 < nated0g_wrk> overprovision?
11:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Some businesses don't like being told that their calls may drop out 5% of the time, which is where all the complex rules come into play
11:21 <@Corydon76-dig> This is also why network engineers like IAX2.  It neatly sidesteps the problem of trying to determine which packets are voip, because all voip packets in IAX2 travel over a common port
11:21 <@brimstone> 4569, both ends
11:22 <@Corydon76-dig> In SIP, you pretty much have to do DPI on the SIP control port to figure out which port numbers are being used for RTP
11:22 <@brimstone> hopefully you can blanket something like 10000-20000
11:22 <@brimstone> but good luck :(
11:23 < nated0g_wrk> gonna reboot
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11:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, but it's still messy and it doesn't prevent other services, like realtime pr0n streams from using the same port numbers
11:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Without doing DPI, you're left with filtering on IP addresses
11:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Allow all from SIP phone IPs, but that doesn't cover softphones, so you have to filter on possible destinations, as well.
11:29 <@Evilpig> this is neat.  you can get a module for a cisco switch that will use a single piece of fiber for transmit and receiving.  uses two different wavelengths but there are two modules involved.  uplink and downlink. http://www.gaotek.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=937
11:31 <@Dolemite> realtime pr0n streams?  I want some of that!
11:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: I'll have Jeff send you a list of his favorites
11:32 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : We have some of those here now
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11:32 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : Cool, I'll have Mirage add them into the PN firewall
11:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: UDP, remember
11:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, I could probably just send you his bookmark file
11:37 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: where were you last week when I was asking about something like that?  
11:37 <@Evilpig> grrrr
11:38 <@Dolemite> working
11:53 < Cinotac> ..-.
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12:26 <@Mirage> Add what to the firewall?
12:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Mirage: Dol was asking about some live porn streams
12:28 <@Mirage> NL got a new USB camera that, I belive, has a small light on it..we can stream from your room at night..=)
12:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Mirage: I have a DV cam with Firewire port
12:28 <@Corydon76-dig> and a tripod
12:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, I have 3 tripods now
12:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Not including myself
12:29 <@Mirage> heh
12:29  * Mirage was waiting on a comment like that
12:29 <@Corydon76-dig> I'll show anybody who wants to see
12:29 <@Evilpig> do you have a list for signing up on of people that DON'T wanna see?
12:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: everybody is curious... it's what makes meatspin and swollentip such popular sites
12:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Mirage: those videos should DEFINITELY be on your substitute list
12:33 <@Mirage> I'll make a note to look at those later on when I'm home
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12:46 < nated0g_wrk> i would like to sign up for the list to NOT see Corydon76-dig's tripod.....any of them!
12:48 <@Dolemite> again, the reason why we need Mirage to add the IP's to the firewall...   on all ports, UDP and TCP
12:51  * Catonic_lp 0wnz0rz Dolemite using l33t icmp
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13:27 <@polerin> wait
13:27 <@polerin> using a single peice of fiber for up and down is ... neat and new?
13:27  * polerin blinks
13:28 <@polerin> hell, that's what HFC has been about forever.
13:40 <@Evilpig> polerin: most fiber modules for switches use one piece of fiber for up and one for down.  it is hard finding the modules that use a single strand
13:41 <@I-MOD> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/code_quality.jpg
13:41 <@polerin> hm
13:41 <@polerin> I can understand that, It's just odd.
13:42 <@polerin> the only problem is that your effective range would be limited to the distance acheiviable by the higher frequency, but with fiber that's not an issue except for longer distances
13:42  * polerin shrugs.
13:51 <@Evilpig> I think the one I looked at earlier was rated for 16km
13:51 <@Shadow404> how much does a 16km run of fiber cost?
13:53 <@Evilpig> wouldn't know
13:53 <@Evilpig> I think our fiber connects are costing us $200 am onth for a couple of miles
13:54 <@Lissa> it's about 1000 per km
13:55 <@polerin> depends on the pair count.
13:56 <@Evilpig> we have two pair going to three different places and four pair going about 500ft between two other locations
13:58 <@Dagmar> I-MOD: Better http://pics.nase-bohren.de/code_quality.jpg
13:58 <@Dagmar> I'm not even going to link the Gary Glitter one
13:58 <@I-MOD> Dagmar, that's exactly the same one i posted...
13:59 <@rattle> I am printing that and hanging it up at my office.
13:59 <@Dagmar> Ah that's because I just got up and can't manage a apaste buffer properly
13:59 <@Dagmar> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/Georgia.jpg
13:59 <@Dagmar> There we go.  That one looks different
13:59  * Dagmar takes anoter drink out of the Full Throttle
14:01 <@Evilpig> the hourly employees are singing happy birthday to someone over the plant address system
14:02 <@nachoguy> if anyone is in Chicago in about 3 hours, we have a recruiting event with an open bar.
14:02  * Dolemite checks flights
14:05 <@polerin> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/vicodin.jpg
14:05 <@polerin> hehe
14:07 <@Dagmar> There's one there for Linux T-Shirts that I'm sure someone got bitched at for
14:07 <@Dagmar> heh
14:07 <@polerin> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/linux-tshirt-size.jpg  <-- that one?
14:08 <@Dagmar> Yep
14:08 <@Dagmar> Amazing what no longer being a broke hippy will do
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14:16 <@polerin> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/thingslookbad.jpg
14:16 <@polerin> heheh
14:17 <@polerin> I can imagine what would happen to this channel if there actually was a zombie attack
14:17 <@Dagmar> It works for me
14:17 <@polerin> oops
14:17 <@polerin> wrong one
14:17 <@polerin> damn link location/image location
14:17 <@polerin> I wouldn't have linked that one
14:17 <@polerin> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/twitter_zombie_outbreak.jpg/1221074023
14:17 <@polerin> that one
14:17 <@Dagmar> I saved that one
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14:37 <+MaxieZ> On the dc404 list someone posted this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq4WsV5UgjA
14:37 <+MaxieZ> I'm actually a bit offended by the racism in the video.
14:38 <@nachoguy> http://www.flickr.com/photos/artbikes/2808206387/
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14:43  * nachoguy staples Brim's Iphone to the floor
14:44 <+MaxieZ> nachoguy: That could be the problem actually
14:44 <@nachoguy> ware lives?!
14:44 <@nachoguy> MaxieZ encased meats are a problem?
14:44 <@nachoguy> I think not
14:45 <+MaxieZ> I meant the iphone with a staple through it
14:45 <+MaxieZ> HOwdy ware...and I have to disagree....just cause you're married to God, doesn't mean you can't be unsatisfied and take matters into your own hands from time to time
14:46 <@Neoteric> 1
14:47 < ware> sup, i still lives
14:48 < ware> troll you hookers when im on a conf
14:48 <+MaxieZ> I prefer slut since I don't get paid
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14:52 <@rattle> HAHAHA..  http://www.hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
14:52 <@rhia> hehe
14:54 <@Dagmar> I saw they'd contracted Morgan Freeman as a just in case measure.
14:59 <@polerin> MaxieZ: yah that is abit.. uh.. yeh.
15:09 <+MaxieZ> rattle: and even that page uses JS
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15:10 <@Dagmar> Of course.
15:10 <@Dagmar> It *tests* before it tells you
15:10 <@Dagmar> if (!(typeof worldHasEnded == "undefined")) {
15:10 <@Dagmar> document.write("YUP.");
15:10 <@Dagmar> }
15:10 <+MaxieZ> Yeah I just was reading it :)
15:11 <+MaxieZ> Cute
15:12 <+MaxieZ> Though the test isn't very conclusive...If the world had ended the variable would still be undefined.
15:13 <+MaxieZ> Could have done if (true) or something
15:19 <@Dagmar> Hey, whether or not the test is right doesn't matter.
15:19 <@Dagmar> What matters is the result.
15:19 <@Dagmar> This is javascript we're talking about.
15:19 <@Dagmar> If you want code to make SENSE, use some other 'language'.
15:20 <+MaxieZ> Ok...true...and the result should be relatively accurate...
15:20 <@Dagmar> I think Freeman made a last minute fix
15:22 <@Dagmar> Of course, this will all be ever so funny in a few days when all the geysers stop.
15:22 < eryc> Bristol Palin's novelty panties: My mom is the governor of Alaska and she Supports Drilling!
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15:24 <@Dagmar> So, do we know whose PhD tracks just blew up in their faces yet?
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15:27 <@aestetix> Man last night sucked.
15:27 <@aestetix> First my code stopped working. Then my environment crashed. Now x won't even start.
15:28 <@aestetix> I think there's a golem in my computer.
15:29 <@Dagmar> If there were a golem in your computer, it would run no matter what you did to try preventing it from killing you.
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15:32 < eryc> http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4628/sarahpalinla4.png
15:33 < cwire> ha, that's awesoem
15:35 <@Dagmar> Meme it
15:37 <@nachoguy> Ware, we heard you got yourself arrested so you could rescue shadow from prison.
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15:44 < ware> nachoguy: your troll sucks :(
15:44 <@coil> it's made of fail
15:44 < ware> tho i heard about the shadow404 prison bitch rumor, much win
15:45 <@rattle> Damn..  I don't have to watch the Daily Show for moments of zen.  I just have to go to work.
15:45 <@rattle> Mike Huckabee is here playing bass.
15:46 <@aestetix> shadow404 is in prison?
15:46 <@Dagmar> No.
15:46 <@rattle> He just visits from time to time for the sex.
15:46 < ware> http://profile.ak.facebook.com/object3/530/103/l6934857868_9530.jpg
15:47 <@Dolemite> Actually, nachoguy gave Corydon an idea for a way to get some alone time with Shadow404
15:47  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
15:47 <@Corydon76-dig> He did?
15:47 <@Dagmar> I found a problem with Spore.
15:47 <@Neoteric> anyone know of a good way to dump the User table from a mysql db in such a way that I can reimport it into another mysql db?
15:47 <@aestetix> Dagmar: it has DRM?
15:47 <@Dagmar> Aside from that
15:48 <@Neoteric> Dagmar: what's the prob!
15:48 <@Neoteric> too few penis?
15:48 <@aestetix> Neoteric: sql format?
15:48 <@Dolemite> Neoteric : Dump the user table in the 'mysql' db
15:48 <@Neoteric> aestetix: yeah...
15:48 <@Dolemite> as in
15:48 <@coil> ware what is that
15:48 <@Dagmar> You can try your damnedest to keep on the economic track, but during the civilization phase, if you lose your first city, it'll get converted to something other than economics.
15:48 <@Dolemite> mysqldump --opt mysql user
15:49 < ware> coil: huckabee
15:49 <@Dagmar> When ya take over a city, you have the option to leave it as it is, or convert it to whatever you used to take it over.
15:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Neoteric: you can dump and restore, same as every other database.  Just do a 'flush tables;' afterwards
15:49 <@coil> oic
15:49 <@Dagmar> ...which means since none of the other AI are economics, you're pretty much *not* staying on the economics track
15:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Neoteric: 'flush tables;' causes the user cache to get dumped and the users re-read from the underlying table
15:50 <@Dolemite> flush privileges;
15:50 <@Dolemite> not flush tables
15:50 <@rattle> He's put down the bass and started talking about music education...  But they might close off with another song..
15:50 <@rattle> http://208.97.242.34/events.sdp
15:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: either will do
15:50 <@rattle> http://stream.techprogress.org/events.sdp
15:50 <+MaxieZ> Neoteric: mysqldump -Q mysql user |mysql newdb
15:50 <@Corydon76-dig> 'flush privileges;' just does a bit less
15:50 <@Neoteric> rattle: did he sign it!
15:51 <@rattle> Neoteric: I forgot to bring it in.
15:51 <+MaxieZ> flush tables,reloads the authentication?
15:52 <@Dolemite> Not according to the documentation
15:52 <@Dolemite> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/flush.html
15:52 <@Neoteric> MaxieZ: what if I just want a specific user not ever user?
15:53 <+MaxieZ> Neoteric: I'd dump it to a file and edit the insert line myself
15:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: where does it say it doesn't?
15:53 <+MaxieZ> then cat the file |mysql newdb
15:53 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : It doesn't say that it does.
15:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: I've always used 'flush tables' since long before 'flush privileges' even existed
15:54 <@Corydon76-dig> flush privileges is simply a more fine-tuned operation
15:54 <+MaxieZ> I always thought flush tables was like syncing the disks
15:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: as it says in the docs, it closes ALL of the tables
15:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: that includes the user table
15:56 <@Dolemite> well by your logic rebooting the server would also be in the list of answers
15:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: I used to be a DB admin on MySQL.  I know a few of the tricks, and I also used to work on the source.
15:57 <@Corydon76-dig> So it's rather silly to argue with me on this.
15:58 <@coil> hit that bitch with a bottle
15:58 <@Dolemite> The most precise answer was 'flush privileges'
15:58 <@Corydon76-dig> If you'd like, we can go through the source together, and I can show you.
15:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: and yet flush tables wasn't wrong, as you had implied.
15:58 < eryc> yea show me
15:58 <@coil> you got problems? ill solve them
15:58 < eryc> i think you're full of shit
15:58 < ware> noobs
15:59 <@Dolemite> No, I have to argue with enough obtuse people at work already.
15:59  * coil hits eryc with a bottle
15:59 < ware> Dolemite: <3
15:59 < ware> im here jus 4u
15:59 < eryc> flush tables writes the memory to disk
15:59 <@coil> fgt
15:59 < ware> and im still on a call with symantec weee... 90 minutes in
15:59 < eryc> fush privs reads from disk/tables to memory
15:59 <+MaxieZ> Well I think the answer was wrong as I understood it as he wasn't trying to flush tables or privileges, but copy a table :)
15:59 < eryc> so its completely opposite
16:00 <@Corydon76-dig> eryc: DIAF
16:00 <@coil> yay
16:00 <@coil> diaf eryc plzkthx stfu
16:01  * brimstone didn't start the fire
16:01 <+MaxieZ> Ok...now I just did this
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16:01 <+MaxieZ> Added a user...maxiez with a password testing
16:01 <+MaxieZ> ran update user set password blah blah
16:01 <+MaxieZ> flush tables
16:01 <@brimstone> don't forget to wipe
16:01 <+MaxieZ> tried to log in and the old password was right
16:02 <@coil> dont' forget to bring a twoel
16:02 <+MaxieZ> so flush privileges does re-read in the authentication and flush tables does not seem to do so
16:02 <@Dolemite> You must have done it wrong because Corydon always knows more.
16:02 <+MaxieZ> Maybe I did...Corydon?
16:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: or they could have changed the command since 3.23
16:02 <+MaxieZ> and I'm not trying to be a smart ass...just learn
16:03 < eryc> haha
16:03 <@Neoteric> wo0t! thanks everyone
16:03 < eryc> diaf now bitch!
16:03 <@Neoteric> don't like how that insert INTO 'user' is just one big ass line...
16:04 < eryc> mysql is cool like that
16:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Neoteric: at least the password is encrypted
16:04 <+MaxieZ> Neoteric: yeah...sorry about that
16:05 <@Dolemite> thas why we like the GRANT syntax
16:05 <+MaxieZ> Actually, you should have just done it all
16:05 <+MaxieZ> and then delete from user where User != 'bob';
16:05 <+MaxieZ> where bob is the one you want to keep
16:05 <+MaxieZ> of course make sure you use the right DB
16:05 <+MaxieZ> Dolemite: I don't think he's trying to actually use the real user table.
16:05 <@coil> hi how do i mysql
16:05 <+MaxieZ> coil: you don't...it's MY sql bitch!
16:05 <@Neoteric> MaxieZ: eyah but I was worried about the "root" entries :)
16:05  * brimstone sqls
16:05 <@Dolemite> MaxieZ : Apparently he is
16:05 <+MaxieZ> I guess so
16:05 <+MaxieZ> I thought he was just trying to back it up for some reason
16:06 <@coil> sql like a pig boy
16:08 <@Neoteric> MaxieZ: no... just moving one thing into another...
16:08 <@dc0de> MaxieZ: dramatel is very "wrong" ...
16:09 <+MaxieZ> So copy a user?
16:09 <+MaxieZ> Well...their ad campaign could use some political correctness
16:11 <@critch> Dolemite: I think we need to run this for pn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR8pqiP-jGI
16:11 <@dc0de> MaxieZ: indeed...
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16:11 <@t-money> yo yo yo!
16:12 <@t-money> what's up MZ? Playa?!
16:12 <+MaxieZ> yoyo...
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16:12 <@dc0de> that's just frightening.
16:12 <@coil> good one
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16:21 < eryc> BHOPAL, India - A teenage girl in central India killed herself on Wednesday after being traumatized by media reports that a "Big Bang" experiment in Europe could bring about the end of the world, her father said.
16:21 < ware> rofl
16:21 < ware> pwn
16:22 < Catonic_lp> and in other news, one ameican job was saved today, when a teenager in india killed herself.
16:22 <@dc0de> long distance pwn
16:22 <+MaxieZ> hey...if the end of the world did occur, wouldn't that have taken care of itself?
16:23 <@dc0de> MaxieZ: no one said she was intelligent.
16:24 < eryc> yo
16:24 < eryc> er ww
16:24 <@coil> yo yo yo
16:25 <@Neoteric> why can't anyone just understand that hte LHC is rad
16:25 <@nachoguy> so, digium guys, is asterisk 1.6 being kept in a box until astricon?
16:25 <@Neoteric> and that the physics involved in actually detecting what's going on is absolutely intense?
16:25 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: no, until it's ready
16:26 <@nachoguy> Neoteric, because no one has LHC hats.  people understand things with hats.  Look at baseball, NASCAR, and to a lesser extent jousting.
16:26 <@nachoguy> people like and respect things that have hats
16:27 <@Neoteric> the only thing I object to about the LHC is the 'H' . it should be large bayron collider
16:27 <@Neoteric> because they're not i tightly bound states until *after* the collisions
16:27 <@nachoguy> some weird guy comes up to you in a forest and asks you not to start a fire, you tell him to piss off.  If he has one of those forest ranger hats, well, he gets some respect.
16:28 <@Neoteric> nachoguy: that's a good theory. I'm gonna tell it to jens
16:28 <@dc0de> it's a great theory...
16:28 <@nachoguy> The public is stupid.  Hats calm and placate them
16:28  * dc0de goes to get his "I'm a psycho killer" hat.
16:29 <@dc0de> now is everyone calm?
16:29 <@nachoguy> Free hat to the first 50,000 people who take line up to get their picture taken for the LHC?  You'd have that 50,000 in under a day.
16:29 <@dc0de> nachoguy: good point
16:29 < eryc> i want LHC condoms
16:30 <@nachoguy> well, "psycho killer" isn't a sport, activity, or landmark, but yes.
16:30 <@nachoguy> also, very few psycho killers would actually wear a "psycho killer" hat
16:31 <@nachoguy> so, by putting that hat on, you're being ironic, not dangerous.
16:31 <@nachoguy> I for one applaud you for being an Iron.
16:31 <@dc0de> nachoguy: It's not a sport?
16:31 <@dc0de> or activity?
16:32 <@nachoguy> nope, a state of mind =>
16:32 <@dc0de> eryc: would they cause your sperm to accelerate and then smash into each other?
16:32 <@dc0de> nachoguy: hrm... ok
16:42 <+MaxieZ> So ...if I get a "Women have sex with me" hat would that work?
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16:47 <@coil> they died
16:47 <@coil> router is fubar
16:47 <@coil> that was quick
16:48 <@polerin> MaxieZ: yes because we are easily manipulated by bits of cloth.
16:50 < ware> rofl we
16:50 < ware> love it
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16:51 <+MaxieZ> polerin: drat.  I thought the hat theory was perfect.
16:52 <@polerin> MaxieZ: If you give it flashing lights and a warning siren it might work better.
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16:57 < ware> and BAM! i now am and have the chemical make-up and history of being a woman since conception on this rock.
16:57 <+MaxieZ> Customer has a script with a vuln in it (I assume...there was a strang mysql connection).  So I'm auditing it...84 php scripts were called in that minute...hadn't counted cgi yet :(
16:57 < ware> YOUR CUSTOMER IS SHIT
16:57 < ware> fucking still on the phone with symantec, 2 fckn hours
16:57 <@coil> why
16:57 <@coil> wtf
16:57 < ware> enterprise manager fuxin up
16:57 <@coil> uninstall it
16:57 <@coil> and break the cd
16:57 < ware> lulz.
16:57 < ware> il braek ur neck fool
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17:01 <@coil> lol
17:01 <@coil> wat?
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17:01 <@coil> wb MaxieZ
17:01 <@ShadowHntr> oi
17:01 < MaxieZ> heh
17:01 <@ShadowHntr> i hate MTSU's packetshaper
17:01 <@ShadowHntr> :P
17:01 <@coil> y
17:01 < ware> MaxieZ: lol pwn
17:01 <@ShadowHntr> coil: it doesn't block IRC, just lets it connect, but won't allow traffic through
17:01 <@coil> ?
17:01 <@brimstone> it sees that MOTD traffic and kills it
17:01 <@coil> try diff port
17:01 <@coil> disable motd?
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17:01 < ware> :P
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> hmmm...
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> *shrug*
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> i just tunneled out to a shell acct
17:02 <@coil> aahhhh
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17:06 <@brimstone> i found a competing dept's AP
17:07  * brimstone <3 openvpn
17:07 <@ShadowHntr> lol
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17:12 < ware> yay chan pwn
17:12 < ware> noobs
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17:19 <@polerin> he's an idiot.  I don't know why people even talk to him
17:19  * polerin shrugs
17:20 <@brimstone> eh, over the internet it's harmless humor
17:20 <@brimstone> most of the time
17:21 <@coil> some people take it too seriously
17:23 <@polerin> brimstone: yes, harmless humor.
17:23 <@polerin> the same harmless humor that people use to excuse why they murder transwomen.
17:23 <@polerin> reall fucking harmless.
17:24 <@brimstone> woah, slow down there miss
17:24 <@polerin> brimstone: oh i'm slow
17:24 <@polerin> just not ammused.
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17:25 <@polerin> there's a difference between joking, and using sarcasm to make bigotry more palatable
17:26 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
17:26 <@ShadowHntr> there's a phrase that applies here
17:26 <@ShadowHntr> "if you don't have anything nice to say..."
17:26 <@polerin> and it's not just me.. you ever notice this community is pretty damn light on other minorities?
17:26 <@ShadowHntr> "... don't say anything at all."
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17:26 <@polerin> ShadowHntr: no, I'd rather people just say it.  it's easier that way
17:26 <@ShadowHntr> it may be the internet
17:26 <@ShadowHntr> but you still could have left your tactless jokes to yourself.
17:27 <@polerin> they can't hide behind "it's just a joke"
17:27 <@coil> you people
17:28 <@ShadowHntr> amen polerin
17:28 <+MaxieZ> Well I will say that the lack of minorities in the channel can't entirely be blamed on our behavior though
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17:28 <@polerin> no
17:28 <@polerin> it can't
17:28 <@ShadowHntr> heh :P
17:28 <@polerin> but it is certanly not helped
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17:29 <@polerin> err
17:29 <@polerin> it has certanly not helped
17:29 <+MaxieZ> Won't argue that.
17:30 <@polerin> I'm not saying that you can't make jokes or anything
17:31 < eryc> http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
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17:32 <@polerin> but think about what you are saying, and think about if you'd say it in front of a group of people who fit the profile you're joking about.
17:32 <@brimstone> heh, nice eryc
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17:34 <@coil> polerin: how do i
17:36 <@Neoteric> goddamn I love nginx
17:38 <@polerin> coil: how do you...?
17:39 <+MaxieZ> Neoteric: why?
17:39 <@coil> comcast
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17:41 <+MaxieZ> I prefer lighttpd for that job meself
17:43 <@polerin> how do you comcast?
17:43 <@polerin> what?
17:44 <@ShadowHntr> do you... um... yahoo?
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17:51 <@Neoteric> MaxieZ: cause it's the fucking shit
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17:55 <@Drag0n> how do you comcast? shut the network off randomly, watch your bandwidth usage and arbitrarily pick a usage cap and turn the network off till next month
17:56 <@brimstone> comCAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSttttttt
17:57 < eryc> i like their feature list,
17:57 < eryc> # kqueue (FreeBSD 4.1+), epoll (Linux 2.6+), rt signals (Linux 2.2.19+), /dev/poll (Solaris 7 11/99+), event ports (Solaris 10), select, and poll support;
17:57 < eryc> # various kqueue features support including EV_CLEAR, EV_DISABLE (to disable event temporalily), NOTE_LOWAT, EV_EOF, number of available data, error codes;
17:57 < eryc> # sendfile (FreeBSD 3.1+, Linux 2.2+, Mac OS X 10.5), sendfile64 (Linux 2.4.21+), and sendfilev (Solaris 8 7/01+) support;
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17:57 < eryc> # accept-filter (FreeBSD 4.1+) and TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT (Linux 2.4+) support;
17:57 < eryc> # 10,000 inactive HTTP keep-alive connections take about 2.5M memory;
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17:57 < eryc> now thats how you code unix :)
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18:03 < eryc> yo Dagmar your post is gone again!
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18:12 < eryc> anyone else having a problem with youtube?
18:13 < eryc> yo fuckers
18:13 < eryc> does youtube work
18:19 <@scort> yo stfu
18:19 <@scort> yo it works yo yo yo dawg word g
18:20  * Drag0n cuts scorts string. no yo-yo's allowed
18:21 <@sdodson> oooh witty!
18:21 <@scort> Drag0n, eryc started it
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18:32 < eryc> scort: and your mom finished it
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18:33 <@scort> er
18:33 < eryc> i hope that burns like your dick when u pee
18:33 <+MaxieZ> I hate that 1 guy
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18:35 <+MaxieZ> rattle: Is my copy of freedom downtime still...around and working?
18:35 <+MaxieZ> I wouldn't fault you if it's not...just curious.
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18:46 < Catonic_lp> how do I list all of the scsi devices on a Linux box? RHEL...
18:48 <@brimstone> ls /dev/sd* ?
18:48 <@brimstone> any of them using sd_mod at least
18:48 <@brimstone> dmesg | grep -i scsi gives some interesting information too
18:49 < Catonic_lp> I have a tape device I want to export through vmware
18:49 < Catonic_lp> scsi 2:0:2:0: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 8
18:49 < Catonic_lp> scsi 2:0:3:0: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 1
18:49 < Catonic_lp> st 2:0:3:0: Attached scsi tape st0
18:49 <@brimstone> i wish i could get vmware 6.5 b110068 to build :(
18:50 <@brimstone> looks like /dev/st0 is your man
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18:59 < eryc> http://www.wowbacon.com/
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19:03 <@sdodson> brimstone: vmware is hate!
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19:18 <@polerin> ugh
19:18 <@polerin> I'm so tired
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19:48 <@aestetix> mmmmm
19:48 <@aestetix> I love getting drunk and going to work
19:54 < DigitalIrony> Isn't it probably safer to goto work and then get drunk
19:54 < DigitalIrony> you know less driving involved
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19:59 < juice> The first term ever searched on google was lesbian wrestling
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20:04 <@aestetix> who said anything about driving
20:07 < juice> a sign your working too hard
20:07 < juice>  You can no longer tell the difference between your cubicle's Mountain Dew bottles and urine-filled Mountain Dew bottles.
20:08 < nated0g> that is just gross juice
20:09 < juice> heh
20:09 < nated0g> hopefully you keep the mt dew on ice and not the urine
20:09 <@aestetix> juice: is your boss working too hard? :)
20:09 < juice> nope
20:09 < juice> was on a top 17 list
20:09 < nated0g> peel the labels off the "empty" ones
20:09 <@aestetix> nated0g: I don't know if there's a difference, I've never tasted urine
20:09 < juice> for signs your working too hard
20:09 < juice> nated0g, true
20:10 < nated0g> least your teeth would be white from drinking urine
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20:10 < nated0g> urine has ammonia and that is what whitens teeth...yes it was on history channel
20:11 < juice> nated0g, I know the Egyptians brushed their teeth with urine
20:11 < juice> name for a nudist movie
20:11 < juice>  Horton Sees a Hoo-Haa
20:12 < nated0g> juice, ha ha
20:12 < juice> http://www.topfive.com/arcs/archives.shtml
20:13 < juice> some entertaining ones
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20:16 < juice>  We put the "Ho" in "Motel" lol
20:16 < juice> rejected motel 6 slogan
20:18 < M0j0-j0j0> spending hours fixing bad implementations due to poor planning is worse than sitting in meetings run by marketing..
20:19 < M0j0-j0j0> what really cheeses me off about it was the "I've got to go pick up my kids at day care" part
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20:43 < Synx_hm_> my kitty looks so sad
20:43 < Synx_hm_> just got her spayed
20:43 < Synx_hm_> and she does not looking like shes enjoying life
20:43 < Synx_hm_> :(
20:43 < Synx_hm_> cat get her to eat either
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20:58 <@polerin> heh
20:59 < Synx_hm_> i may take her back to the vet in the morning
21:00 <@polerin> oh
21:00 <@polerin> sorry that wasn't laughing at you
21:00 <@polerin> wrong window
21:00 <@polerin> :(
21:00 < Synx_hm_> haha
21:00 < Synx_hm_> :(
21:00 <@polerin> I didn't even read what you had said
21:00 <@polerin> I'm so sorry ...   ... god I feel heartless now :/
21:00 < Synx_hm_> its ok
21:02 <@brimstone> AS YOU SHOULD!
21:02 <@polerin> yeah I kn0
21:02 < Synx_hm_> wonder how long the drugs are susposed to last
21:03 < Synx_hm_> her third eyelid is still hanging out and her eyes are red and very wet
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22:10 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxkrm9uEJk
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22:46 <@sdodson> eryc: ZOMG RLLY?
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22:51 < eryc> no not really
22:51 < eryc> http://popsicklestrip.com/s/to-the-death/
22:52 <@sdodson> http://warorcar.blogspot.com/
22:53 <@sasquatc4> uggh, i think they decided to interview the dumbest teenagers possible for this news story, talking about raising the driving age to 17 because some study showed that 17 year olds had a large percentage less accidents than 16 year olds
22:53 <@sasquatc4> of course all the teenagers said, no they shouldnt do that because we should be able to do what we want and be independant
22:53 <@sasquatc4> instead of the obvious question, maybe those 17 year olds had less accidents because they had been driving for a year and had the experience
22:54 < eryc> damn i was going to say that
22:54 < eryc> heh
22:54 <@sasquatc4> yea, the fucking obvious rebuttal
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22:55 <@sdodson> "Lowering driving age would decrease the number of accidents 17 year olds had by $foo percent!"
22:56 <@sasquatc4> possibly, maybe if there is currently a decrease between 17 and 18, that percentage would move down to the 17 year old bracket, who knows
22:59 < eryc> http://www.forbes.com/business/2008/09/10/sex-drugs-oil-biz-beltway-cx_jz_0909rik.html
22:59 < eryc> Sex, Drugs, and Oil!!
23:01 <@sasquatc4> yessum, i still gotta ask the woman if she knows anyone over there cause she works for the surface mining department, being in the same city she probably does
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23:03 < eryc> drill baby drill
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