--- Log opened Fri Sep 05 00:00:06 2008
00:05 <@sdodson> heh sybase is "other"
00:06 <@timoguin> the top three listed are oracle with about 40%, ibm db2 with 32%, and mssql with 12%.
00:08 <@sdodson> i imagine db2 has shrunk postgreswl and myswl filling the gap oracle and mssql staying about the same
00:09 <@timoguin> swl!
00:10 <@timoguin> the weird thing about most of the market studies is that they base market share on revenue.
00:10 <@timoguin> kind doesn't work with OSS stuff.
00:11 <@sdodson> "market" sort of implies purchase, right?
00:11  * timoguin shrugs
00:12 <@timoguin> i'm more interested in real usage statistic.
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00:32 <@Evilpig> anyone?  rpm -V    verify?
00:33 <@sdodson> yes
00:33 <@sdodson> man rpm
00:33 <@scort> that's fucked up
00:33 <@Evilpig> I don't have an open terminal to man it right now
00:33 <@scort> make one
00:33 <@scort> screen
00:34 <@Evilpig> groupwise:~ # rpm -V novell-bind
00:34 <@Evilpig> ......G.    /opt/novell/man/man8
00:34 <@Evilpig> .M......    /usr/share/omc
00:34 <@Evilpig> .M......    /usr/share/omc/svcinfo.d
00:35 <@sdodson> you want to know what those mean?
00:35 <@Evilpig> that is what it said.  just seems odd
00:36 <@Evilpig> like trying to do an rpm -qa and searching for bind is taking forever.  it should be damn near instant
00:38 <@sdodson> file mode and group ownershop
00:38 <@sdodson> rpm -qa is slow
00:38 <@Evilpig> this thing is even gagging just trying to load vi though
00:38 <@Evilpig> something is up.  but it isn't showing in the logs
00:38 <@scort> hax
00:39 <@scort> failing hardware
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00:39 <@sdodson> iowait?
00:39 <@Evilpig> could be.
00:39 <@Evilpig> easy way to tell.  let me try to get into the main xen server and see if it is gagging too.
00:40 <@Evilpig> nah.  just the virt server 
00:40 <@scort> oh vm
00:45 <@Evilpig> I could try restarting that VM.  I'm just afraid I am not seeing something and the fucker wont' come back up and leave me in a giant shitpot tomorrow
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00:53 <@Catonic> they see me rollin... they haitian...
00:56 <@nachoguy> They wanna catch you ridin' Dirrr-tay
00:58 <@juice> new virtualbox is nice 2.0.0
01:13 <@Catonic> my feel feel like bloody stumps.
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01:21 <@Catonic> worked out, then did aikido for two hours, then did 60 minutes of cardio
01:21 <@Catonic> only thing I didn't do the same is that I didn't bike home.
01:21 <@timoguin> anyone know how to convert pdf to txt in linux?
01:22 <@Catonic> pdf2<tab>
01:22 <@timoguin> ps and dsc is what i have
01:23 <@timoguin> pdftotext
01:23 <@timoguin> werd
01:24 <@Catonic> there's a number of tools out there, like TeX2html, etc..
01:24 <@timoguin> yea i found them right after asking.
01:24 <@timoguin> i ultimately want to get it from pdf to comma delimited or something
01:25 <@Catonic> apsfilter?
01:27 <@Catonic> you're in the territory of printing engines.
01:27 <@timoguin> well actually
01:27 <@Catonic> so it makes sense to look at printing pre-processors and printer drivers/filters for solutions
01:27 <@timoguin> verizon has an online backup assistant that backs up all your contacts online
01:27  * Catonic sings along with his Katy Perry CD
01:27 <@timoguin> i can't export them, but i could save them all as a pdf
01:28 <@timoguin> and i want to import them into outlook
01:28 <@Catonic> page -> save as
01:28 <@Catonic> I have never backed a phone up online. That's how paris hilton got hax0r3d
01:29 <@Catonic> that and being a dumb blonde twit
01:29  * timoguin shrugs
01:29 <@juice> haha
01:29 <@juice> I have that somewhere
01:29 <@timoguin> Actually, didn't see just leave her sidekick somewhere?
01:30 <@Catonic> now we know why it smells and why she doesn't wear underwear.
01:30 <@Catonic> no pockets... where else are you gonna put a phone?
01:31 <@scort> her perse?
01:35 <@juice> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,416485,00.html
01:36 <@scort> i wonder whos body they burned
01:37 <@juice> yeah
01:37 <@juice> prolly some missing person
01:37 <@juice> so another unsolved mystery
01:42 <@Dagmar> whoo...
01:42 <@Dagmar> xkcd went gnomic on us
01:42 <@Catonic> shit, gonna have to pull out my dictionary.
01:43 <@scort> ~google for define gnomic
01:43 <+MxZBot> Google says define gnomic is at http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861614389/gnomic.html or http://www.babylon.com/definition/gnomic/Slovak or http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gnomic
01:43 <@Dagmar> I'm waiting for someone to patch XScreensaver to have http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/
01:43 <@Catonic> DONT DO IT, ITS A TRAP
01:43 <@Catonic> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gnomic
01:43 <@Dagmar> That's a mean bluescreen error
01:43 <@Catonic> fucking recursive definitions
01:44 <@Dagmar> Looking at www.xkcd.org right now would be a better explanation
01:44 <@Dagmar> WTF City
01:44 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Oracles are gnomic
01:45 <@juice> Dagmar, you built libtag-sharp before?
01:45 <@Dagmar> What they say means -something-, but you've generally no idea what.
01:45 <@Dagmar> nope\
01:45 <@juice> thing is annoying it compiled fine in 12.0/2.20.3
01:45 <@juice> 12.1/2.22.3 not so much
01:46 <@juice> and the error it spews is basically useless
01:46 <@Dagmar> but is?
01:46 <@Dagmar> I definitely want a BSOD saver that just says "FUCKED"
01:47 <@juice> it errors on the dll with some xml crap like error CS1569 which means read-only access
01:48 <@juice> however as root should still work so I make it 777 for kicks and it steal errors
01:48 <@juice> steal=still
01:49 <@juice> I was bad today I installed win server 2008 ent in a vbox
01:49 <@juice> got a blue screen upon restarting after installing and update :)
01:50 <@juice> however it rebooted after that and seemed fine
01:51 <@Dagmar> From 5.06's changelog: "Added the -log option to the xscreensaver daemon, since a truly shocking number of Linux users seem to have no idea how to redirect output to a file. "
01:52 <@juice> oh boy
01:52 <@juice> that's sad
01:54 <@juice> i guess the same number and more have no idea about tee either
01:56 <@timoguin> so what regex do i need here...
01:56 <@timoguin> Firstname Lastname [big space here] Mobile,Phonenumber
01:56 <@timoguin> to take out the big space
01:56 <@juice> use cut?
01:57 <@timoguin> huh?
01:57 <@juice> cut - remove sections from each line of files
01:57 <@timoguin> just man paged it.
01:57 <@juice> but it might not work as good
01:57 <@juice> or are the fields fixed length
01:58 <@timoguin> they're all the same length
01:58 <@juice> ok
01:58 <@juice> should work fine then
01:58 <@timoguin> it looks like a tab
01:59 <@juice> I need to learn sed and regex better
01:59 <@juice> I can do some basics
01:59 <@timoguin> I've done some really advanced stuff.
01:59 <@juice> but haven't messed with them enough for the more advanced things
01:59 <@timoguin> Just rusty and tired.
01:59 <@juice> ic
01:59 <@timoguin> well...
01:59 <@timoguin> really rusty.
01:59 <@scort> juice, how do i
01:59 <@timoguin> like two years rusty
01:59 <@scort> whats a good tut
02:00 <@juice> scort, huh?
02:00 <@scort> tutorial
02:00 <@juice> a good tutorial for?
02:01 <@scort> sed
02:02 <@juice> http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
02:02 <@scort> what's the diff between sed and grep
02:04 <@juice> umm grep finds things sed modifes them?
02:04 <@timoguin> grep is for searching, not replacing
02:04 <@scort> oic\
02:04 <@juice> manytime sed and grep are used together
02:04 <@juice> and maybe even awk too
02:04 <@scort> cawk
02:04 <@scort>  pattern scanning and processing language
02:05 <@scort> wtf does that mean
02:05 <@juice> http://www.vectorsite.net/tsawk.html
02:05 <@juice> http://www.vectorsite.net/tsawk_2.html#m2
02:06 <@juice> show how it can be used to search
02:07 <@scort> man that looks useful
02:07 <@scort> too bad it looks boring reading all that text
02:07 <@juice> yeah
02:08 <@scort> that would be a good way of getting rid of my duplicates
02:09 <@scort> .mp3 duplicates where each of the duplicate ends with 1.mp3
02:09 <@juice> seq
02:10 <@timoguin> I've used seq for many a download spree.
02:10 <@juice> sometimes when I am bored I look at commands
02:11 <@juice> type a letter and tab the whole list for that letter
02:11 <@timoguin> Did something like for i in `seq 1 1207`; do wget http://questionablecontent.net/comic$i.jpg; done
02:11 <@juice> nice
02:11 <@scort> oh you have to script it
02:11 <@timoguin> I've done that for a lot of similar things.
02:11 <@scort> to use it
02:11 <@juice> no
02:11 <@juice> juice@liquid:~$ seq -s, 1 10
02:11 <@juice> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
02:12 <@scort> but how does printing numbers help me
02:12 <@timoguin> It makes the troll juice taste better.
02:13 <@juice> well when you want to make a file with line numbers seq 1 10 > text
02:13 <@juice> and you already got numbers there :P
02:13 <@juice> umm not even close to trolling
02:13  * scort watches the numbers fly by
02:14 <@scort> it's not trolling if i actually learn from it
02:15 <@timoguin> the -w flag is usefull with seq as well
02:15 <@timoguin> pads with zeroes
02:15 <@juice> also there is sort and comm commands
02:16 <@juice> that I have used for some things in the past
02:16 <@scort> 2459398,2459399,
02:16 <@scort> it took a while to get to that number
02:16 <@scort> from 1
02:17 <@juice> hmm interesting command
02:17 <@juice> faucet
02:17 <@juice> hose and faucet heh
02:18 <@scort> netpipes?
02:18 <@scort> neat
02:18 <@juice> yeah
02:18 <@scort> channel data to another comp?
02:19 <@juice> bsd styple
02:19 <@juice> err
02:19 <@juice> style
02:19 <@juice> not sure never used them
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02:20 <@timoguin> installed.
02:20 <@juice> what is?
02:20 <@timoguin> netpipes
02:20 <@juice> oh
02:20 <@scort> yah
02:20 <@juice> what distro?
02:21 <@juice> running slackware here
02:21 <@scort> debian variant
02:21 <@timoguin> ugh.
02:21 <@timoguin> ubuntu.
02:22 <@juice> k
02:22 <@timoguin> so, my gf typed something up in OO on another computer, saved it as .doc, and then emailed it to me to print...
02:22 <@timoguin> on a linux box that has OO.
02:22 <@juice> wasn't sure how many distro would have it default
02:22 <@juice> lol
02:22 <@scort> are they compatable
02:22 <@timoguin> I yelled at her.
02:22 <@juice> the question is does it render right?
02:22 <@timoguin> And then punched her right now!
02:23 <@timoguin> well, the header is fucked up
02:23 <@scort> my .doc from mac:office 2004 was fucked up
02:23 <@timoguin> s/right now/right in the mouth/
02:23 <@scort> to oo
02:23 <@scort> the tables were all fucked up
02:23 <@scort> it made me sad cuz now i have to redo all the shit
02:23 <@juice> I would always submit things in 00 in college and the professors would take points of for messed up formatting
02:24 <@juice> but I wasn't paying for microsoft office
02:24 <@scort> lol
02:24 <@scort> those bitches
02:24 <@juice> mainly was in xls docs
02:24 <@juice> but also in doc too
02:25 <@timoguin> I always submit my stuff as PDF.
02:25 <@scort> at least my mail server works again
02:25 <@scort> silly dovecot
02:25 <@timoguin> I think she may have done the headers wrong to begin with.
02:26 <@scort> hit that bitch with a bottle then
02:26 <@juice> oh or there would be something in 00 that I knew how to do in ms office and it just wouldn't work in 00 even thought it had the feature
02:26 <@timoguin> She's sleeping now.
02:26 <@timoguin> About to wake her up with a shovel.
02:26 <@scort> then cum on her face
02:26 <@juice> I wanted to beat my university for being so ms whipped
02:26 <@timoguin> LEARN ABOUT OPEN STANDARDS!
02:26 <@timoguin> SLAM!
02:26 <@juice> everything there was ms
02:27 <@timoguin> Mine is the same way.
02:27 <@timoguin> Just did some homework for database class.
02:27 <@scort> hi how do i school
02:27 <@timoguin> $160 book.  And it sucks.
02:27 <@juice> The only reason I had windows was for this stupid activex control called questionmark
02:27 <@timoguin> Yep.
02:27 <@scort> omfg i hate activex
02:27 <@juice> for online examguard
02:28 <@timoguin> Heather had to have it for MathXL.
02:28 <@scort> wine didn't work
02:28 <@timoguin> I was pissed.
02:28 <@scort> ?
02:28 <@scort> wine-doors ftw
02:28 <@juice> I was always going to hack into ies4linux or wine
02:28 <@juice> and see if I could make it run non full screen
02:28 <@juice> or run at all
02:28 <@timoguin> I have enough spare machines and really didn't want to fuck with trying to make it work.
02:28 <@timoguin> I went as far as changing the user agent string and then seeing it was activex.
02:28 <@juice> I can't mention how many times my computer locked up because I would clikc the bgin screen
02:29 <@juice> and it says please refresh page
02:29 <@juice> then your screwed
02:29 <@timoguin> I had to test out of a 100 level CIS course the other day.
02:29 <@juice> I was like I lose any data from these hard resets I am sueing them
02:29 <@timoguin> ended up having to take the exam like 3 times.
02:29 <@timoguin> it was like...
02:30 <@timoguin> microsoft office embedded in a browser window
02:30 <@juice> pinpoint?
02:30 <@timoguin> and you'd get it wrong if you clicked the menu instead of shortcut on the toolbar
02:30 <@timoguin> no
02:30 <@timoguin> like... TrainAccess
02:30 <@timoguin> or Teach something...
02:30 <@timoguin> I think it had Access in it.
02:31 <@scort> i fucking hate cats
02:31 <@timoguin> I hadn't used office in like 2 years and was assuming the test would be MS Office with instructions.
02:31 <@juice> i had to use some office training thing back in 2002
02:31 <@timoguin> at least then i could click around to figure something out.
02:31 <@timoguin> but no.
02:31 <@juice> called pinpoint
02:31 <@juice> for a college class
02:31 <@timoguin> It was an exam with 50 questions.
02:32 <@timoguin> Instructions in the left pane and then a portion of the office suite in the right pane.
02:32 <@juice> http://www.pinpointauditor.com/
02:32 <@juice> hmm
02:32 <@timoguin> it wasn't really office embedded.  just a representation of it.
02:32 <@juice> yeah sounds similiar
02:32 <@juice> to this pinpoint crap
02:32 <@timoguin> it was shit.
02:32 <@scort> bitch just bit my hand
02:32 <@timoguin> it crashed about 30 questions in the first time and i had to start over
02:33 <@timoguin> then i redid everything and submitted and left
02:33 <@juice> heh
02:33 <@timoguin> turns out it didn't properly submit
02:33 <@timoguin> so i had to go back and do it again
02:33 <@juice> gah
02:33 <@timoguin> 2 hour time limit and i did it in less than 15 minutes
02:33 <@timoguin> i was almost like, "Trust me.  I will pass it."
02:33 <@juice> I love those type of tests
02:33 <@juice> i had some in my ccna classes
02:33 <@timoguin> I took a CLEP test for CIS 300 too.
02:33 <@timoguin> Passed it.
02:33 <@timoguin> It sucked.
02:34 <@juice> I never tested out of any classes
02:34 <@timoguin> more business speak than computer shit.
02:34 <@juice> however I probably should have or could have several
02:34 <@timoguin> well this is my 4th year and i'm just now taking CIS classes.
02:34 <@timoguin> I've been doing this shit for about 8 years now.
02:35 <@timoguin> Self educated, probably more than $2000 in book purchased over the yeras.
02:35 <@juice> i don't have the patience for programming
02:35 <@juice> i want to know how to do it but I don't want to do it
02:35 <@juice> either
02:36 <@juice> mainly want to know it so I can hack on crap
02:36 <@Catonic> same basic thing here.
02:36 <@juice> had classes for java,sql,vb vb .net, and cobol
02:36 <@timoguin> No way in hell was I about to take Intro to Microcomputer Applications or Principles of Information Systems
02:36 <@juice> but I have forgotten most of it
02:37 <@Catonic> timoguin: not unless, like me, you need to correct a .21 GPA.
02:37 <@juice> timoguin, I took a using computers class required for all freshmen
02:37 <@timoguin> I've been doing PHP for years.  That's all I'm really good at.
02:37 <@timoguin> Catonic: 0.21?
02:37 <@juice> I had an A even without doing the last test if I wanted lol I was going to test out of it but took it
02:37 <@timoguin> or 2.1?
02:38 <@juice> i wanna learn php
02:38 <@Catonic> timoguin: yeah, you don't want to blow my GPA into a breathalizer.
02:38 <@timoguin> ouch.
02:38 <@Catonic> unless you're rattle, your hope of survival is slim.
02:38 <@timoguin> Mine's 2.something.
02:38 <@timoguin> I failed several English classes for not doing my work.
02:38 <@timoguin> Stupid.  But oh well.
02:38 <@juice> gpa is a useless measure of work
02:39 <@timoguin> I'd go through the whole semester and not turn in the last paper.
02:39 <@juice> I put people in 2 catagories
02:39 <@timoguin> It's not a useless measure of work.
02:39 <@timoguin> I'd argue it's a good measure of work.
02:39 <@timoguin> Not a good measure of intelligence though.
02:39 <@maco> Catonic: how high was his BAC that time?
02:40 <@juice> 1 street smart ie hands on common sense prolly have a gpa at 2-3 or book smart people that have 3.7-4 or so and know nothing in the real world
02:40 <@Catonic> maco: ask him. I don't remember but I think it was 30s or 40s.
02:40 <@juice> can program at the computer but couldn't turn it on people I had in my programming classes
02:40 <@maco> Catonic: i think aestetix said it was like 0.38, but damn...that doesn't sound possible
02:41 <@timoguin> Well, if I did the work required of me I'd have a 4.0.
02:41 <@juice> timoguin, I have hardtime doing ungraded work also
02:41 <@timoguin> But I'm lazy and lots of other things so I have a 2 something.
02:41 <@juice> for like math classes so then test time I don't do as well since I didn't do homework
02:41 <@maco> and come to think of it, i can't recall him ever being the drunkest person in the room when i was over at his & neo's place
02:41 <@aestetix> yo
02:41 <@juice> who wants to do 30 problems a night for nilch
02:41 <@timoguin> My senior English class in high school, I had a 95 test and quiz average and a 32 homework average.
02:41 <@maco> aestetix: heya
02:42 <@juice> timoguin, also when you work 60-75hrs a week and go to college
02:42 <@juice> also hard to get a 3-4 gpa avg
02:43 <@timoguin> True.
02:43 <@juice> hence my bitterness
02:43 <@aestetix> wait what?
02:43 <@maco> aestetix: you're the one that told me about rattle's crazy-high BAC during a drunk coding competition, weren't you?
02:43 <@aestetix> maybe?
02:44 <@aestetix> that sounds familiar
02:44  * aestetix just got back from a dancing competition
02:44 <@maco> howd ya do?
02:44 <@aestetix> Oh, I didn't compete.
02:45 <@maco> oh
02:45 <@aestetix> I'm not on the level to compete yet.
02:45 <@aestetix> There were some badass dancers though.
02:45 <@timoguin> What kind of dancing?
02:45 <@aestetix> timoguin: mostly lock/pop, some house dancing, some liquid
02:45 <@aestetix> fucking TINY LOVE was there
02:45 <@aestetix> that guy is legendary
02:46 <@aestetix> so was one of the electric boogaloos
02:47 <@juice> aestetix, going to pn?
02:47 <@aestetix> unknown
02:47 <@juice> k
02:48 <@aestetix> my schedule is filling up fast
02:48 <@aestetix> gonna be in DC on the 13th, after that I'm in san francisco for probably 2 weeks
02:48 <@juice> hmm
02:48 <@aestetix> juice: you?
02:49 <@juice> should be
02:49 <@aestetix> cool
02:51 <@timoguin> Watching Tiny Love videos.
02:51 <@timoguin> I think I'd have to have drugs to dance like that.
02:51 <@aestetix> Tiny Love is amazing.
02:52 <@aestetix> dude.... I met him
02:52 <@aestetix> he's like "show me your digits"
02:52 <@aestetix> I did... he's like "that's good shit"
02:52 <@aestetix> gave me a few pointers
02:52 <@timoguin> haha.  cool.
02:52 <@aestetix> and I walk away thinking "tiny love said my digits are good!"
02:53 <@aestetix> that would be like
02:53 <@aestetix> you do some badass networking shit and fyodor says "hey man that's cool"
02:54 <@timoguin> yea
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02:55 <@Catonic> aestetix: yeah, don't move to SF and start telling me how great it is...
02:57 <@aestetix> Catonic: you're more likely to do that than me
02:57 <@coil> homos
02:58 <@juice> SD is better
02:58 <@coil> probably cheaper
02:58 <@juice> i dunno about that
02:59 <@juice> pretty pricey I though
02:59 <@juice> thought
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02:59 <@coil> sf is probably pricer
02:59 <@aestetix> than new york?
03:00 <@coil> no
03:00 <@coil> who knows
03:00 <@coil> wasn't talking about ny at all
03:00 <@juice> neither was I
03:02 <@coil> wheres my headache pillz
03:02 <@juice> Honolulu might be one of the most
03:02 <@juice> SD is 5th
03:03 <@coil> whats 1 2 3 4
03:03 <@juice> ny is 1
03:03 <@coil> seq 1 10
03:03 <@aestetix> basically you take 2-4 and add them all up
03:03 <@aestetix> and you almost get NYC
03:03 <@juice> 2. Boston, MA
03:04 <@juice> 3. Juneau, AK
03:04 <@juice> 4. Anchorage, AK
03:04 <@coil> wtf juneau?
03:04 <@juice> 1 - 1.29
03:04 <@juice> Why wouldn't people pay a whole bunch of money to live in San Diego? Its presence on clean, sunny beaches (without that L.A. smog) would do it for us. But here are the added bonuses of the most museums west of the Mississippi, some of the world's friendliest people, the famous San Diego Zoo, and even LegoLand.
03:04 <@coil> most expensive up there
03:04 <@juice> errr
03:04 <@juice> freaking ff
03:04 <@juice> 5. San Diego, CA
03:04 <@juice> 6. Philadelphia, PA
03:04 <@coil> i've been to the sdz
03:04 <@juice> 7. Los Angeles, CA
03:05 <@juice> 8. Fairbanks, AK
03:05 <@juice> 9. Ann Arbor, MI
03:05 <@coil> why all the alaska places
03:05 <@juice> 10. Seattle, WA
03:05 <@juice> taxes fuel?
03:05 <@juice> flying everything over
03:05 <@juice> dunno
03:05 <@coil> the pipeline doesn't do shit?
03:06 <@juice> okay so this is like 100,000 in most us cities
03:06 <@juice> these top 10 you have to make this to equal 100,000
03:07 <@juice> Seattle is 116,000
03:07 <@juice> ann arbor 121000
03:07 <@juice> fairbanks 127,000
03:07 <@coil> not too bad
03:07 <@juice> la 127,000
03:07 <@juice> philly 128,000
03:07 <@coil> it's cheap to live here
03:07 <@juice> sd 129,000
03:08 <@juice> Anchorage 129,000
03:08 <@juice> juneau 133,000
03:08 <@juice> boston 142,000
03:08 <@juice> ny 208,000
03:08 <@coil> holy shit
03:08 <@juice> that's just insane
03:08 <@juice> 100,000 here would take 208,000 there
03:09 <@coil> i dont have either
03:09 <@juice> over double yikes
03:09 <@coil> i dont even have a 100th of that
03:09 <@juice> true
03:09 <@coil> or a 10th?
03:09 <@juice> I have about 60 bucks to my name
03:09 <@juice> but take loans into account I have -35,000
03:10 <@coil> im not that bad as living from paycheck to paycheck yet
03:10 <@coil> since i haven't recieved a paycheck in a few months :/
03:10 <@juice> oh I have been for a long long time
03:10 <@coil> but i haven't worked almost two weeks
03:10 <@juice> about the 2nd year of college
03:10 <@juice> before that I had 9,000 in my bank account
03:10 <@coil> i should of fuckin got some student loans
03:10 <@coil> and took some classes
03:11 <@coil> but im just wasting time bullshitting
03:11 <@juice> i am hoping to get off the living paycheck to paycheck boat soon
03:11 <@coil> oh wait
03:11 <@coil> it's been a year
03:11 <@coil> after a year i get instate tuition
03:11 <@coil> yaaaay
03:12 <@coil> i wish i wasn't lazy
03:12 <@juice> lol
03:17 < BlueCopy> hola
03:20 <@coil> como estas?
03:24 <@juice> hmm
03:26 <@coil> but i dont know what degree i want :/
03:29 <@juice> hmm
03:30 <@coil> i should just do computer secience
03:30 <@coil> or maybe spelling class first :p
03:30 <@juice> management information systems
03:30 <@juice> is what I did
03:30 <@juice> I started CS
03:31 <@juice> then switched
03:31 <@coil> that sounds like more work
03:31 <@juice> less programming and math and more businesses classes
03:31 <@coil> i should of fuckin kept at coding when i was in hs and college
03:31 <@coil> "coding" like i actually did something
03:32 < TheLightCosine> wow this is the msot actvie i've ever seen it in here during my time of day lol
03:33 <@coil> sorry ill shut up
03:33 <@coil> since i never say anything worth while and im a worthless peice of shit say someone in this channel
03:34 <@juice> I got home 1:30 late so it seems earlier to me
03:37 < TheLightCosine> while it is 3:30 it is essentialy 9:30am for me
03:37 <@juice> ic
03:37 <@juice> i love when I am right abut something
03:37 <@juice> and everyone else is no thats not the problem
03:38 <@juice> and it turns out that was exactly the problem
03:45 <@juice> night all
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03:58 <@aestetix> man
03:58 <@aestetix> that hamburger gave me the worst gas in ages
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04:02 <@Dagmar> Wow.
04:03 <@Dagmar> Metaplace is actually slower than Second Life
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04:11 <@aestetix> hey
04:11 <@aestetix> anyone know of a place where I can download bulk bogus data to test a datatable widget?
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04:52 <@aestetix> ugh
04:52 <@aestetix> I hate people who think that a function definition defines API documentation
05:25 < TheLightCosine> you mean like the MSDN?
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06:28 <@aestetix> I am going to hurt someone
06:28 <@aestetix> $coworker updated tons of code
06:28 <@aestetix> including api changes
06:28 <@aestetix> and didn't document any of it
06:31 < TheLightCosine> ouch
06:32 < TheLightCosine> and then went out on holiday?
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06:49 <@aestetix> heh
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07:26 < TheLightCosine> quiet this morning
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08:12 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:13 <@aestetix> ok
08:13  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
08:13 <@aestetix> Man oh man.
08:13 <@aestetix> Please vote for Obama, for one reason, above all.
08:13 <@aestetix> If Palin becomes the VP, I will have to hear her fucking nasal hockey mom accent every time she gives a speech.
08:14 <@Dolemite> Starting with the one where she takes over as President because McCain keeled over from cancer #5 or just fucking old age.
08:14 <@poiupoiu> mornin' Dolemite, aestetix
08:14 <@aestetix> I mean, I can swallow her bullshit political wannabexperience
08:15 <@aestetix> But the voice. God.
08:15 < TheLightCosine> morning Dole
08:15 < TheLightCosine> for god's sake the woman said "Victory in Iraq is imminent"
08:15 < TheLightCosine> she's delusional
08:16 <@poiupoiu> lol
08:16 <@aestetix> No no no I don't care about that.
08:16 <@aestetix> She can make up for it by posing for Playboy.
08:16 <@aestetix> But the fucking VOICE!
08:16 <@Dolemite> she's a right wing evangelical.  Of course she's delusional.
08:16 < TheLightCosine> truth Dolemite
08:16 < TheLightCosine> i thoguht you southerners would be sued to that by now though
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08:38 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig: thanks for the info on pre-reg
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08:40  * dmcmorris_esi would lol if Ms. McCain posed for playboy
08:40 < Curbob> damn it I need to reserve my room for Phreaknic and prereg.. doh
08:49 < TheLightCosine> heh i need to pre-reg
08:49 < TheLightCosine> i also need to egt directions for the meeting tonight
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08:57 <@polerin> aestetix: like McCain is any better as a speaker
08:57 <@polerin> aestetix: ugh
08:59 <+MaxieZ> I got this spam message that said "work with ISS" and I thought...damn they're seeking me out?
09:00 <+MaxieZ> Integrated Shipping Solutions needs US (local) Assisstants. No money is necessary to start.
09:00 <+MaxieZ> Job Responsibilities:
09:01 <@polerin> (none?)
09:04 <@polerin> http://www.illdoctrine.com/2008/09/the_republican_haters_ball.html
09:04 < TheLightCosine> maxiez got that email and msiread it and said "work with IIS? Hah yeah right!"
09:09 < Curbob> ok prereg is done
09:10 <+MaxieZ> I keep missreading that as preggers
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09:11 < Curbob> lol, i got that going on now also
09:11 < nated0g_wrk> morning people
09:11 <@brimstone> morning nated0g_wrk
09:11 < nated0g_wrk> hows middle tn ?
09:12 <@brimstone> dunno, i try to avoid going there
09:12 <@polerin> it sucks
09:12 <@brimstone> lol @ aestetix: "nasal hockey mom accent"
09:12 <@polerin> sucks!
09:12 < nated0g_wrk> im west tn so i it sucks here
09:12 <@polerin> well duh.
09:12 < nated0g_wrk> least its not bama
09:12 <@brimstone> cuz they obviously don't have soccer up in the great north
09:12 <@brimstone> hey now
09:12 <@polerin> the closer you get to mississippi
09:13 <@polerin> the more it sucks
09:13 <@brimstone> Alabama's state motto: "Hey, at least we're not Mississippi"
09:13 < TheLightCosine> lol
09:14 < TheLightCosine> or missouri
09:14 <@polerin> yeah I forgot that MS was one of the states (the only state?) with the battle flag of the confederacy as part of it's flag
09:14 <@polerin> so I got there, and got out
09:14 <@polerin> and sorta had to do a tripple take
09:15 < TheLightCosine> I beleive missour is also the least educated state in the union
09:15 < TheLightCosine> in a country with ~505 ltieracy rate on average that's pretty bad
09:15 < TheLightCosine> er ~50%
09:15 < TheLightCosine> stupid keys
09:15 < Curbob> ok booked hotel, finally
09:15 <@I-MOD> the literacy rate is that low?
09:16 <@brimstone> it's about average
09:16  * brimstone ducks
09:16 < TheLightCosine> the US has the worst literacy rate of any "first world" nation
09:16 <@I-MOD> good, your head is in just the right place for me to kick you in the teeth without straining anything
09:17 <@I-MOD> i find it hard to understand how people get by without being able to read things
09:18 <@brimstone> radio, tv
09:18 < TheLightCosine> it's a functional literacy rate rather
09:18 <@brimstone> whole lot of audio going on
09:18 <@polerin> the talking glowing screen tell them things
09:18 < TheLightCosine> i.e the ability to actually read at a certain level
09:18 <@brimstone> polerin: exactly
09:18 < TheLightCosine> not just read
09:18 <@polerin> that and their preacher.
09:18 <@I-MOD> in that case, i know a few illiterate people...
09:18 <@I-MOD> brimstone, you think sricci qualifies as functionally illiterate?
09:19 < TheLightCosine> my brother was over in Chattanooga a couple months ago and got jeered for ahving a phD
09:19 <@I-MOD> and jeffrey....
09:19 < TheLightCosine> people proudly said things like "I never even finished high School"
09:19 < TheLightCosine> i weep for humanity.
09:19 <@remoford> you eggheads all sound the same
09:19 <@brimstone> I-MOD: barely
09:20 <@I-MOD> remoford, you take it back! my head is potato shaped!
09:21 < dmcmorris_esi> heh... weighted voting... Votes for political positions are weighted based on IQ
09:22 < TheLightCosine> there goes most of the red states lol
09:28 <@Dolemite> If you hate where you live, leave.
09:28 <@Dolemite> remoford:  "It sucks"
09:28 <@Dolemite> er, damn nick completion
09:30 < TheLightCosine> perosnally I find middle tenn much nicer than central pa
09:31 < TheLightCosine> which i finally left after 10 straight years of saying "I hate this shithole"
09:31 <@Dolemite> TheLightCosine : Meeting is at 1231 18th Ave South, Nashville, TN, room 238
09:31 < TheLightCosine> of coruse i've only been ehre 5 months so i'm not quite over my "no more pennsylvania" euphoria
09:31 < TheLightCosine> er wow thanks Dole!
09:31 < TheLightCosine> 5:30 right?
09:32 <@Dolemite> It starts at 6, but people start gathering before then
09:32 <@Dolemite> Mirage and I will be over at The Corner Pub until about 5:45 enjoying the 2-for-1 happy hour
09:33 <@polerin> heh
09:33 <+MaxieZ> Dc404 meetings seem to roxor
09:33 <@Dolemite> How 'bout them Commodores last night?
09:33 <@polerin> anyone see last nights daily show
09:33 <+MaxieZ> So...while 2600 is dead in atl, yay for for dc404
09:34 <+MaxieZ> polerin I did
09:34 <+MaxieZ> Oh wait
09:34 <+MaxieZ> I saw the night before I think
09:34 <@Dolemite> I've seen the pertinent clips on youtube
09:34 <@polerin> MaxieZ: that was one of the best episodes ever
09:34 <+MaxieZ> Last nights?
09:35 <@polerin> no, two nights ago
09:35 <+MaxieZ> Oh with the "republican bathroom"?
09:35 <@polerin> but last nights had a nice segment about choice ;P
09:35 <@Dolemite> http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/04/daily-show-on-republ.html
09:35 <@polerin> well that was good too
09:35  * poiupoiu preregs
09:35 <@polerin> that was two nights ago dole
09:36 <@polerin> the droopy dog bit was awesome.
09:36  * I-MOD wonders if he's prereged
09:36 <+MaxieZ> Oh yeah...that was funny
09:37 <@I-MOD> i thought i did, but maybe not
09:37 <+MaxieZ> I-MOD: They have tests...you just pee on a stick
09:37 <@I-MOD> no MaxieZ, thats preggers, not prereg
09:38 <@polerin> MaxieZ: I actually laughed my ass off after that when newt gingrich said he agreed with karl rove 100%
09:39 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: the only people who have preregistered so far are: sanethebadseed, cwire4, presmike, and curbob
09:39 <@I-MOD> damnit
09:39  * I-MOD goes and preregs
09:39 <+MaxieZ> heh
09:39 <+MaxieZ> That was great
09:39 <+MaxieZ> http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/westmoreland-calls-obama-uppity-2008-09-04.html
09:40 <+MaxieZ> ~minilink
09:40 <@brimstone> herm, i thought i was preregistered already
09:40 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/thehill.com/pGf0D.html
09:40 <@brimstone> i guess just volunteered
09:41 <@Catonic> my feet still hurt.
09:43 <@I-MOD> Corydon76-dig, I should be good to go now
09:50 <@SkyDog_> Catonic: TheX1le is going to priv message you. He met you on the bus to the airport after defcon.
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09:54 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: I'm going to pay attention to IRC, one of these days.
09:54 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: yep, you and poiupoiu are now added to the list
09:55 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: btw, how do you pronounce the username portion of that email address?
09:56 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: actually it was before. I was dressing in non-hackeresque clothing for once.
09:56 <@SkyDog_> Ah. Didn't know that.
09:56 <@Catonic> it was the trashed hacker inside laptop bag that gave me away.
09:58 <+MaxieZ> Yeah when I got off the plane, I had read there was a shuttle to the Rivera and was wondering around looking for one.  Ran into a guy smoking outside a shuttle wearing a 2600 shirt and knew I'd found my ride
09:59 <@SkyDog_> haha!
09:59 <@SkyDog_> I'm wearing my DefCon shirt today. The one that Jinx Had.
09:59 <+MaxieZ> I was going to, but apparently, it wasn't clean
10:00 <+MaxieZ> I'm wearing my PN9 wifirace shirt
10:00 <+MaxieZ> Which looks a fuckton better than my PN9 shirt I might add
10:00 <@Catonic> I'm going undercover. Because the only hacker shirts I have are either black or white, and I like neither.
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10:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: what color would you prefer?
10:01 <@Catonic> blue or red.
10:01 <+MaxieZ> Catonic: Got a blue defcon shirt!
10:01 <@Corydon76-dig> baby blue or navy?
10:01 < Curbob> pink
10:01 <@Catonic> navy.
10:02 <+MaxieZ> Catonic: I'm right with you....
10:02 <@Shadow404> meow
10:02 <+MaxieZ> Red's good...
10:02 <+MaxieZ> Shadow404: hey jail bird...was bubba good to ya?
10:02 <@Catonic> I've already got one shirt that's bright red.
10:02 <@Corydon76-dig> What are your sizes, guys?
10:02 <@Shadow404> MaxieZ: glad that scotchick sent me some soap on a rope
10:02 <@Shadow404> that stuff is no joke
10:02 <@Shadow404> heh
10:02 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: M, and change the badge to just "Catonic"
10:02 <@Shadow404> MaxieZ: nah, it was a hoax started by brimstone
10:02 <+MaxieZ> Yeah I know
10:03 <@Shadow404> ok
10:03 < Curbob> neon black
10:03 <+MaxieZ> XXL for me
10:03 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: come on, you and me, right now, a 10K.
10:03 <@SkyDog_> We're not buying shirts other than black this year...
10:03 <@Corydon76-dig> I can't promise anything right now, but I'll see what I can do
10:03 <+MaxieZ> Catonic: run?
10:04 <@Catonic> yeah. run.
10:04 < Curbob> SkyDog's sooo bossey
10:04 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, I am. Sorry.
10:04 <@Catonic> like Corydon76-dig's is after your anus.
10:04 < Curbob> lol
10:04 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: I thought we'd already discussed getting some white
10:04 <+MaxieZ> I think I'll sit at my desk :)
10:04 <@Catonic> I can't wear white, it's just not flattering on my figure.
10:04 <+MaxieZ> I can wear XL, but it's tight on me and all the ladies faint...it's not safe
10:04 <@SkyDog_> So not we're taking custom orders for shirts?
10:05 <@Corydon76-dig> I haven't promised anything
10:05 <+MaxieZ> Oh and it should have my name on it...and....it should be made of silk
10:05 < Curbob> ok i guess i can wear black ;)
10:05 <@SkyDog_> You aren't in a position to promise anything like that at all..
10:05 <@Corydon76-dig> I agree
10:05 <@brimstone> i disagree!
10:05 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: he'll promise anything and the moon if he can get you into his room at PN.
10:05 < Curbob> and when you lick the shirt you get high
10:06 <+MaxieZ> SkyDog_: He only said he'd look into it
10:06 <+MaxieZ> Curbob: nice...All shirts come laced with LCD
10:06 <@Catonic> Curbob: you're about 8-10 PNs late for that.
10:06 <@SkyDog_> MaxieZ: Only the collar.
10:06 < Curbob> lol
10:07 <+MaxieZ> SkyDog_: Collar?  Are these golf shirts?
10:07 < Curbob> lol, this is how rumors get started hahaha, i'm shuttin up
10:08 <@Catonic> Curbob: we're going to lock you in a room with Officer Comcast and Corydon76-dig and let them play good cop, bad cop with you.
10:08 < Curbob> I would like a black shirt that says Phreaknic 12 somewhere on it :)
10:08 < Curbob> D'oh!
10:08 <+MaxieZ> SkyDog_ said all shirts were golf shirts and they're using third world labor to make them and keeping the child slaves high on LSD....just sayin
10:08 <@SkyDog_> Sigh.
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10:08 <@Catonic> golf shirts? I'd never wear one of those.
10:09 <@Catonic> Then again, I don't fit my button up PN shirt anymore.
10:09 <+MaxieZ> Catonic: let's skip PN....it's getting too corporate
10:09 <@Dolemite> MaxieZ : He's right about the child labor, but the shirts are actually sweaters from the Kathy Lee Gifford collection.
10:09 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: Nah, the corporate parties there are a blast.
10:09 <@Dolemite> We got a good price on them once she dropped off of the Regis & Kathy Lee show.
10:10 <+MaxieZ> Dolemite: sweet...turtlenecks?
10:10 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: I'm hoping to get into the Microsoft one this year -- supposedly they spend half thier ops budget on parties and the other half on ignoring the problem.
10:10 <@Dolemite> MaxieZ : Yeah, wool turtlenecks!  They'll get lots of use!
10:10 <@polerin> heh officer comcast
10:11 <+MaxieZ> Catonic: Well if I go...I'm going to the GOP party....They serve this drink of vodka, oil and baby jew blood...it's amazing
10:11 < Curbob> hahaha
10:11 <@nachoguy> so long as the blood is top shelf
10:12 <@nachoguy> I hate the well stuff
10:12 <@Catonic> nachoguy: it's jew blood, it's all cheap... none of it's call...
10:12  * MaxieZ kicks himself for not saying baby arab
10:12 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: no, you were right... baby arab blood is only used for the drink when you're making it in the middle east.
10:12 <@polerin> MaxieZ: I don't know if you're intending to be ironic and reference history, but you realize the Nazi's actually whipped up anti-semitism by claiming jews drank the blood of christian babies in "evil rituals" right?
10:13 <+MaxieZ> polerin: No, I wasn't.  Just throwing it out there as a great evil.
10:14 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: you drink? you smoke?
10:14 <+MaxieZ> and I hadn't heard that before..
10:14 <+MaxieZ> I drink...don't smoke
10:14 <@polerin> MaxieZ: thought so.  not attacking you on it, just thought it was an interesting snippit
10:14 <+MaxieZ> often anyways
10:14 <@Catonic> good, good. Now you just need to work on loosing the gut and you'll be in good shape.
10:15 <@Catonic> my boss had a heart attack the other day, so health has been on my mind.
10:15 <+MaxieZ> Catonic: Damn...I'm proud of my gut.
10:15 <+MaxieZ> I mean...say I'm in Japan and need to sumo wrestle...I need to at least have a chance.
10:15 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: you're in Japan and you need to sumo... you HAVE no chance.
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10:16 <+MaxieZ> Fuck
10:16 <@Catonic> sumo is like aikido for the obese.
10:16 <@Shadow404> Catonic: im workig on the home frequency list for you today
10:16 <@Catonic> once you get 300+ lbs moving, where it stops, nobody knows.
10:16 <@Shadow404> should have it soon, just fyi
10:17 <@Catonic> Shadow404: Been looking at PAs in radios, seems that most of the ones I have still need an attentuator. Might be able to cut out the first stage and get to 50W instead.
10:17 <@Shadow404> PA?
10:17 <@Shadow404> public annoucement/
10:17 <@Shadow404> ?
10:18 <@Shadow404> power amps?
10:18 < dochench> preamp?
10:18 <@nachoguy> So, should I start the Rumor that Ware got himself sent to prison so that he could bust Shadow404 out?
10:18 <@Shadow404> yeah, sure
10:19 <@Catonic> nachoguy: nah, start a rumor that he got laid by a decent looking chick. That's far less believable.
10:19 <@nachoguy> He walked up to a police officer, bitchslapped him and said "Take me to jail"
10:19 <@nachoguy> Catonic, that isn't insane?  no one would believe it
10:19 <@Catonic> then he remembered that Shadow404 is in a different jail.
10:20 <@nachoguy> it's ok, he has everything he needs for an escape (shovel, parachute, inflatable raft, helicopter) safely hidden in his ass
10:22 <@brimstone> ware's in the slammer?
10:23 <@polerin> I wouldn't know.  I have him on /ignore :P
10:23 <@SkyDog_> dochench! How goes it man!
10:24 < dochench> not bad.. not great... just existing. heh.
10:24 < dochench> you?
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10:25 <@nachoguy> brimstone, yep.  He's got a tattoo of "feel the power" on his lower back, so people can read it when the bend him over.
10:25 <@Shadow404> brimstone: you would beleive something like that
10:25 <@brimstone> nachoguy: lol
10:25 <@brimstone> Shadow404: sure
10:25 -ChanServ:#se2600- Corydon76-dig (Corydon76-home) set flags +oOtriRA on TdC_VgA.
10:25 < TdC_VgA> tdc_vga?
10:25 <+MxZBot> Please remember that while tdc_vga an attorney, he is not your attorney, and he cannot provide you legal advice as he is not a licensed attorney in State.  Before proceeding you should consult a licensed attorney in your State.
10:25 < TdC_VgA> hahahhah
10:26 <@Catonic> ke4qqq: who are you?
10:26 < TdC_VgA> " not a licensed attorney in State" ->  not a licensed attorney in your State
10:26 <@Corydon76-dig> TdC_VgA: not completely true, as people from Florida are occasionally in here
10:26 < ke4qqq> David Nalley - normally just a lurker on the list, though I have shown up to a few cons like CarolinaCon a year ago and one of the very early Interz0nes
10:26 < TdC_VgA> yeah i gathered that much, but figured they were a slim chance
10:26 < TdC_VgA> in State will do
10:26 < dochench> while tdc_vga an attorney  -> while tdc_vga is an attorney
10:27 < TdC_VgA> dochench: good catch =)
10:27 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: wow... little twichy this morning
10:27 <@SkyDog_> dochench: You coming to the meeting tonight?
10:27 <@polerin> ke4qqq: hi there.
10:27 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: eh?
10:27 <@nachoguy> tdc_vga an attorney.  ware accidentally the whole thing
10:27 < ke4qqq> hi polerin
10:27 < dochench> sky: yeah, would have missed it, but tilghman gave me an invite and refreshed the mem. :)
10:27 <@Catonic> ke4qqq: ok. I've got a Part 97 addiction as well.
10:28 < ke4qqq> Catonic: nothing wrong with that
10:28 < TdC_VgA> i'll be at the meeting if i'm not picking up a kayak
10:28 <@nachoguy> by kayak you mean?
10:29 < dochench> tranny prostitute?
10:29 <@brimstone> dead body?
10:29 <@nachoguy> you're both half right.  Put it together
10:30 <@nachoguy> and then, most likely take it apart (or as the pros call it "dismember")
10:33 < eryc> fags
10:33 <@brimstone> jealous
10:33 <@nachoguy> eryc, are you upset because you accidentally the whole thing?
10:34 < eryc> i'm upset because bind is a piece of shit
10:34 < eryc> and naturally, its upsetting me
10:35 < eryc> oh that and im being asked for an ETTR
10:35 <@nachoguy> ETTR?
10:35 < eryc> which i dont have because i dont know wtf is wrong
10:35 < eryc> expected time to resolution
10:37 <@nachoguy> so what's bind doing/not doing?
10:37 < eryc> i have identical servers/software.  1 server works, another does not.
10:37 < eryc> it wont recurse for a specific doman
10:38 < dochench> can't be identical then.. find the difference.
10:38 < eryc> i will hurt you
10:38 <@nachoguy> just the one domain?
10:38 < eryc> yes
10:38 < eryc> oh but dig +trace works fine from the broken server
10:39 < dochench> flushed the cache?
10:39 < eryc> i restarted it too
10:40 < eryc> its just broken. :/
10:40 < eryc> i'm compiling a new bind version.... *sigh*
10:41  * eryc smokes
10:44 <@I-MOD> like a chimney?
10:44 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: your first words to this guy was "Who are you"
10:44 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: I know you didn't intend it badly, it's just funny
10:45 < TheLightCosine> any MS Office gurus in the room?
10:45 <@nachoguy> then the next line was "Your clothes, give them to me"
10:45 < TheLightCosine> cus i got a wierd one
10:45 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: Uh, they were?
10:45 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: you need to read back
10:45 <@polerin> in channel
10:45 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: that was Catonic, not me
10:46 <@polerin> Oh
10:46 <@polerin> Flail
10:46 <@polerin> sorry, on a call
10:47 <@nachoguy> and a trampoline
10:48 <@polerin> Catonic: twitchy today aren't you.
10:48 <@polerin> ;)
10:52 <@Catonic> polerin: ham radio call signs are directly convertable to names.
10:52 <@Catonic> but the FCC is known for not issuing certain combinations, like kz4xxx, etc.
10:52 <@Catonic> sex, etc.
10:53 <@Catonic> once I knew he was a hammy, then I could probe him further.
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10:55 < nated0g_wrk> what license do you hold?
10:55 <@brimstone> license to ill!
10:56 < nated0g_wrk> expired in 1986 tho
10:57 <@Catonic> nated0g: no-code extra
10:57 < nated0g_wrk> im studying for my technician
10:57 < nated0g_wrk> got cheat sheets and taken test exams
10:57 <@Catonic> qrz.com
10:58 < nated0g_wrk> all is well minus the amps ohms resistance
10:58 < nated0g_wrk> electrical was never my strong points
10:58 <@brimstone> never sparked your interested?
10:59 <@Catonic> I think he's just resistance to change.
10:59 <@polerin> Catonic: heh
11:00 <@Catonic> Just not on his wavelength yet.
11:00 <@brimstone> didn't get a charge out of it?
11:00 < nated0g_wrk> hardy har har har
11:00 < nated0g_wrk> maybe i need a spark on my ass to get a boost
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: unixfag might be able to help you with that
11:01 < nated0g_wrk> he has a guy, and im married
11:01 <@Catonic> nated0g: will that help you achieve resonance with your goals?
11:01 < nated0g_wrk> but i will see him tonight
11:02 < nated0g_wrk> maybe genphlux will show up too, havent seen him in a year
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: You should see the number of married guys on the DL
11:03 < nated0g_wrk> i like bewbies too much
11:03 < nated0g_wrk> Catonic, what is a good 2m radio
11:03 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: hence why none of them are getting divorced, either
11:04 <@Catonic> nated0g: planning on playing with D-star?
11:04 < nated0g_wrk> i dont know what that is
11:04 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: are you planning on getting an HT, mobile, or home rig?
11:04 < nated0g_wrk> for the truck
11:04 <@Catonic> dc-daylight, or single band?
11:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Yaesu makes some awesome shit
11:05 < nated0g_wrk> handheld heard they suck with the base antenna, dont want to invest too much in something that small
11:05 <@Catonic> emphasis on "shit"
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: I'd recommend either the dual or tri-band mobile radios
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: only on stuff that is 5 years old
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: Yaesu's new stuff is good
11:06 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: FT-8100, thin-ass PC-boards that break.
11:06 < nated0g_wrk> i like the icom
11:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, try the 8800
11:06 < nated0g_wrk> we have a good shop in memphis
11:06 <@Corydon76-dig> FWIW, Shadow404 got a Yaesu HT, as well
11:06 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: my ham rigs now say "Motorola". The next radio will either be a Kenwood, or a software defined radio.
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11:07 < nated0g_wrk> on the technician am i limited to 2m or is that what most people start on ?
11:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: some of the older kenwoods have an even worse track record than the Yaesus
11:07 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: the newer ones are commercial rigs with different firmware.
11:07 <@Catonic> my mother has a radio that won't do less than 25W out.
11:08 <@Corydon76-dig> though I think Kenwood has fixed most of those problems, just as Yaesu has
11:08 <@Catonic> and it's a kenwood. My Motorolas are rate for double that, minimum.
11:08 <@Catonic> despite the fact they are over 15 years old, they scan, do DPL, PL, and have excellent audio.
11:09 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: 2M, 70cm are your best bets
11:09 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: some also like 1.6M (220)
11:10 <@Catonic> I think there's a part of ten you can use as a no-code tech now.
11:10 <@Catonic> so I've heard anyway.
11:10 <@Catonic> Emphasis on getting extra is knowing where the band edges are, and staying within them.
11:10 <@Catonic> then forgetting what mode where.
11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: I have the FT-8800R in my Beetle
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> nated0g_wrk: think about getting a large whip antenna... Bigger is usually better
11:12 <@Catonic> nated0g: how commited to you are to putting serious antennas on the car?
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> I think mine is a 5/8th's size for 2M
11:12 < nated0g_wrk> i was going to put one of ones on the roof
11:12 < nated0g_wrk> drill into the cab
11:12 <@Catonic> nated0g: do NOT go PL-259
11:12 < nated0g_wrk> i have a 4 ft fiberglass for my cb
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> 52"
11:13 <@Catonic> NMO is the only way for a commited user.
11:13 < nated0g_wrk> im going to have afriend of mine go with me when i pick up my stuff
11:13 < nated0g_wrk> so that i get the right stuff
11:13 <@Catonic> just remember: NMO.
11:13 < nated0g_wrk> yes sir
11:13 <@Catonic> unless he works in commercial radio, I don't think he'll make the right decision.
11:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: I have a PL-259, but I'm also using a custom mount
11:14 <@Catonic> PL259s on the roof are never waterproof. A properly installed NMO is.
11:15 <@Catonic> 1/4 wave NMO for best results.
11:15 < nated0g_wrk> NMO has the small connector that you just screw on the antenna?
11:15 <@Catonic> unless you're in flat terrain like ke4qqq, in which case you go for the mobile equivalent of a DB-228.
11:15 < nated0g_wrk> sticks up about 1/4 inch ?
11:15 <@Catonic> nated0g: something like that.
11:16 <@Catonic> ~tinyurl http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Wilson-Trunk-Mount-for-NMO-Whip-Antennas_W0QQitemZ160277987474QQihZ006QQcategoryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
11:16 <@Catonic> http://tinyurl.com/65zn64
11:17 < nated0g_wrk> yes that is what i was looking at getting
11:17 <@Catonic> cool. You'll find that one mount is useful for many antenas.
11:18 <@Catonic> I have a few trunk-lip mounts and whips for several bands...
11:18 <@unixfag> LOL ok, I'm gonna stop looking when I see my name highlighted
11:18 <@unixfag> and I said no last time, IIRC :-p
11:18 <@Catonic> 2m/70cm (Larsen 2m70) 1/2 wave, 1/4 wave kulrod, 11m, 6m, 2m 5/8th, etc...
11:19 <@Corydon76-dig> unixfag: who asked last time?  ;-)
11:20 <@unixfag> :-p
11:20 < nated0g_wrk> these middle tn folks have dirty minds
11:21 <@unixfag> especially when they get drunk :-p
11:21 <@unixfag> oh wait, that's millington folk :-p
11:21 < nated0g_wrk> woah woah.
11:21 <@unixfag> so, I totally blew up our network last night
11:22 < nated0g_wrk> or when someone is on sake!
11:22 < nated0g_wrk> home or work ?
11:22 <@unixfag> work
11:22 <@unixfag> I forgot tcp security on a new 2000 server install (why I was installing 2k server is a separate issue)
11:22 <@unixfag> SQL Slammer FTL
11:23 <@unixfag> it took us 3 hours to figure out what was happening, and where it was coming from, since it looked network related at first.
11:24 <@Dagmar> lol
11:24 <@unixfag> so, I'm going to do my first snort IDS install in... 2 years
11:24 <@Dagmar> No offense intended, but it *is* funny just the same
11:24 <@unixfag> oh, no, it is
11:24 <@unixfag> what was surprising is that it was 90Mbps pushing out from a virtual machine
11:25 <@unixfag> although, it was probably vmxnet, not vlance
11:25 <@unixfag> I did install the tools... damnit :-/
11:26 < nated0g_wrk> nashville have a good ham group?
11:27  * dochench would like to get into ham..
11:28 < dochench> satellite and all that. :)
11:28 <@Dagmar> nated0g: *Somewhere* or other
11:28 <@Dagmar> You seldom even hear about them anymore
11:28 <@polerin> btw
11:28 <@polerin> http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/05/whats-that-word-im-looking-for-its-another-word-for-decision/    this is the segment I was wanting to know if anyone else had seen
11:28 <@polerin> (it's a daily show snippit)
11:29 <@Dagmar> You want the whole Daily show?
11:29 <@polerin> I already watched it
11:29 <@polerin> that's just the segment I was the most ammused with
11:29 <@Dagmar> I've got Stewart's show being recorded Mon-Thu
11:30 <@Dagmar> k
11:30 <@unixfag> I need to get last night's. we got cable turned on last month, and I've not been able to get to the TV at 7 or 10pm for the entire month. I've been downloading every one of them :-/
11:30 <@polerin> the part where she makes this ~20 year old sorta stumble and not have any words
11:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: then you're missing last Friday's Daily Show and tonight's Daily Show
11:30 <@polerin> yep
11:30 <@polerin> though you can watch that on the web
11:30 <@Dagmar> They're reruns
11:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: No, they're not
11:31 <@polerin> this week is a t-f not m-t
11:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: last week and this week only, Daily Show did Tues-Fri
11:31 <@polerin> same as last week
11:31 <@rhia> the convention coverage pushed it back
11:31 <@Dagmar> Then they've changed their schedule since I set the thing
11:31 <@Dagmar> Oh well, I ain't going to get heartbroken over it
11:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Next week should go back to the regular schedule
11:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Even better, they're live tonight
11:32 <@Corydon76-dig> or live, last week and this week
11:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Back to taping next week
11:33 <@Dagmar> Just one question
11:33 <@Dagmar> How can I be missing something that hasn't aired yet.
11:34 < eryc> last friday has occurred
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11:35 <@Dagmar> eryc: Wasn't talking about that one thanks
11:35 < eryc> np
11:36 <@Dagmar> I'm just pointing out I can be as uselessly pedantic as anyone else in here.
11:36 <@Dagmar> I just generally elect to use proper judgement.
11:37 <@nachoguy> heh, here's a bumper sticker for you guys down in the bible belt "May the fetus you save be gay"
11:37 <@Dagmar> Damn who sells that?
11:38 <@nachoguy> "as uselessly pedantic"  My good sir, you're the king of it
11:38 <@Dagmar> Egg-sactly
11:39 <@nachoguy> stampandshout.com
11:39 <@Dagmar> We'll see if we can't fix this growing epidemic with some alcohol next month.
11:39 <@Dagmar> Too many brain cells running around getting into trouble.
11:39 <@nachoguy> they also have "born ok the first time"
11:42 <@Dagmar> OOoooh they sell them pre-magnetified
11:42  * Dagmar bookmarks
11:42 <@polerin> <-- me has "born ok the first time"
11:42  * polerin ... wow I fail today
11:42 <@Dagmar> I like http://stampandshout.com/shop/car-magnets/give-equal-rights.php
11:44 <@polerin> oddball: poke poke.  did you ask D?
11:45 <@Dagmar> Hmmm.... (whipping out credit card) http://stampandshout.com/shop/car-magnets/wasnt-using-liberties.php
11:45 <@polerin> and yes, that's an ammusing one dag.
11:45 <@polerin> Dagmar: you know you can get those magnet backers blank where you can put whatever you want on them right?
11:45 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but they're a bitch to find
11:46 <@polerin> try galactic gateways
11:46 <@nachoguy> you know what else is a bitch to find.
11:46 <@Dagmar> The Alien Fish on the back of my beemerskate is magnetized that way
11:46 <@nachoguy> Bin Laden
11:46 <@polerin> I haven't been there in a year or so, but they had them last I looked
11:46 <@polerin> Dagmar: you know what my favorite fish is?
11:46 <@polerin> n'chips
11:46 <@nachoguy> also Waldo.  That guy is crazy good at hide and seek
11:46 <@polerin> love that one
11:47 <@nachoguy> he should go to the olypics
11:47 <@nachoguy> olympics
11:48 <@Dagmar> Hide & Go Seek would be great at the Olympics
11:48 <@Dagmar> Especially considering some kid got an award for his country for coming *back* after them
11:49 <@Dagmar> s/for/from/;
11:49 <@nachoguy> if the US hosts the olympics in 2016, I wonder how many people will try to claim asylum here
11:53 <@polerin> you know who would rock at hide and seek?
11:53 <@polerin> tracers.
11:53 <@polerin> (aka people who do parkour)
11:55 <@nachoguy> Why not just take it to the extremes and have corpses (once hidden, they never leave to get food, go to bathroom) and hunting dogs (Nature's ultimate seeker)
11:57 <@nachoguy> of course, if you reverse them, it'll never end
11:57 <@nachoguy> the corpses will NEVER find the dogs
11:58 < ke4qqq> Catonic: I am in flat terrain?
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12:02 <@ShadowHntr> i'm gonna go crazy
12:02 <@ShadowHntr> i called into my conference call this morning
12:02 <@ShadowHntr> and nobody was there
12:03 <@Dagmar> You can practice your singing
12:04 <@brimstone> i like to pump in music to empty conference calls and practice karioke
12:05 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: even better:  pump in 3 different music streams to confuse the crap out of anybody else who calls in
12:06 <@brimstone> too bad bass doesn't convay well with voip codec :(
12:06 <@Corydon76-dig> classical, rap, and alternative
12:06 <@brimstone> hip-hop, world fusion, techno!
12:06 <@Dagmar> "doo-too-WHEET!  We're sorry.  The number you have dialed has been temporarily eaten by zombies. doo-too-WHEET!"
12:07 < nated0g_wrk> foreign music
12:07 < nated0g_wrk> celtic music
12:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: are you familiar with the Asterisk teletorture messages?
12:08 <@Dagmar> Nope
12:08 <@brimstone> now there are some people angry at telemarketers
12:08 <@wizardpc> there are people NOT angry at telemarketers?
12:09 <@polerin> "We're sorry, but all representitives are busy with other telemarketers, please hold and someone will be with you shortly"
12:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: http://www.digium.com/elqNow/elqRedir.htm?ref=http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/sounds/asterisk-extra-sounds-en-wav-current.tar.gz
12:09 <@brimstone> ew, elqua
12:09 <@Dagmar> ~minilink
12:09 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/digium.com/2Cxv3.htm
12:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/sounds/asterisk-extra-sounds-en-wav-current.tar.gz
12:10 <@brimstone> eloqua
12:10 <@Corydon76-dig> ~minilink
12:10 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/digium.com/JOelV.gz
12:10 <@Dagmar> The bounced link seems to work fine tho, but thanks
12:10 <@brimstone> they could have made downloads.digium.com work soooooooooo much better with just a few mod_rewrite rules
12:10 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: blame marketing
12:10 <@brimstone> oh i do
12:11 <@brimstone> every damn day
12:11 <@brimstone> RIP FTP
12:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: blue-eyed-polar-bear
12:12 <@Corydon76-dig> busy-hangovers
12:13 <@Dagmar> hehe
12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> infuriate-tech-staff
12:13 <@Dagmar> To think I still find at least one person a month who can't come to grips with the fact that HTTP superceded FTP for a reason
12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> jedi-extension-trick
12:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: HTTP upload is still a little lacking
12:14 <@Dagmar> Invariably these are people who are only using it to send files out
12:14 <@brimstone> no flash over ftp
12:14 <@brimstone> no javascript crap
12:14 <@brimstone> no 302s
12:15 <@brimstone> just, files
12:15 <@Corydon76-dig> office-iguanas
12:16 <@Corydon76-dig> wait-offensive-sounds
12:17 <@Corydon76-dig> weasels-eaten-phonesys
12:17 <@nachoguy> tt-weasels
12:17 <@nachoguy> yay!
12:17 <@brimstone> tt-monkeys!
12:17 <@brimstone> tt-more-monkeys!
12:17 <@nachoguy> there's a more monkeys?
12:17 <@nachoguy> sweet
12:17 <@Corydon76-dig> There's also spam.wav
12:18 <@brimstone> more of that same monkey sound you all know and love
12:18 <@poiupoiu> the director's cut
12:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: twisty-maze
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12:20 <@Corydon76-dig> We're presently having a few more teletorture messages recorded, which will be in the next release
12:20 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking at least one of these needs to be the OGM on my voicemail
12:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Allison does custom recordings, as well
12:21 <@brimstone> so does at&t's natural voices demo
12:21 <@Corydon76-dig> $12/message
12:21 < eryc> happy ending?
12:22 <@Corydon76-dig> There's also the Cepstral voices
12:22  * brimstone looks for the Green Eggs and Ham Remix
12:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Hah, step-in-stream
12:22 <@Corydon76-dig> teletubbie-murder
12:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: you also need to add touchtone3 into your OGM
12:32 <@someninjamaster> is that the one if you dont have a touch tone phone drive to the store and buy one
12:34 <@Dagmar> Yep
12:37 <@Dolemite> roflmao
12:37 <@Dolemite> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm-gX7D6U4E
12:37 <@Dolemite> MC Palin Rap
12:40 <@brimstone> wow, so, either a black prez or a crazy white woman who'll knock over the old man to get the throne
12:41 <@Dolemite> yeah, most of the redneck voters are in turmoil
12:41 <@brimstone> as with most of the south i'd imagine
12:42 <@Dolemite> So if you go to a church that feels a woman isn't qualified to be a preacher, how the hell can you vote for one to be the President by 2010, when McCain kicks the bucket?
12:42 <@brimstone> what happened to when leading the nation meant owning land, being rich, white and male?
12:42 <@Evilpig> political correctness happened
12:43 <@brimstone> heh
12:43 <@brimstone> the hoover dam was completed in 1936
12:44 <@brimstone> the green hornet radio show debuted
12:44 <@nachoguy> is it a "god" dam ?
12:44 <@brimstone> gone with the wind is published
12:44 <@brimstone> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936
12:45 <@brimstone> 1936 was a great year, i want a president that was born then
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12:48 <+MaxieZ> Dolemite: I'm asking that myself....aparrently the bible never directly said no female presidents so it's all good
12:49 < eryc> brimstone: you mean the boulder dam
12:49 <@Evilpig> MaxieZ: what did the bible say about porn?
12:49 <+MaxieZ> Nothing that I recall
12:49 <@Evilpig> excellent.
12:50 <@nachoguy> always have odd (never even) numbers of money shots
12:50 <@nachoguy> it's in the back, somewhere near the flying monkeys
12:51 <+MaxieZ> God did kill a guy for wasting sperm once though...
12:51 <+MaxieZ> But that was old testiment
12:52 <@Evilpig> what all is a waste?  I like to look at it like if it wasn't for that.  there would be nothing for a tissue to do.
12:52 <@oddball> haha! Looks like my office won't be moving into that building by the Hickory Hollow mall!
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12:53 <+MaxieZ> Well in this case a guy....pulled out and it went on the floor
12:54 <@rhia> MaxieZ: yeah, don't let it hit the ground, says nothing about a tissue
12:54 <+MaxieZ> rhia: my bad...perhaps I read too much into it
12:54 <@polerin> MaxieZ: it also does not specify that two women can't "lay"  togeather
12:55 <@polerin> so make sure you don't read into that either
12:55 <@Evilpig> said nothing about face cream either.  just don't let it hit the ground.  all good
12:55 <+MaxieZ> There is a verse where it says women can get so depraved that they turn to each other
12:55  * MaxieZ cheers for depravity
12:56 <+MaxieZ> and that's new testiment *gasps*
12:57 <@polerin> MaxieZ: what if they aren't turning to each other out of depravity
12:58 <@polerin> I meen, I can definatly understand why you wouldn't want to get fucked up so badly on drugs that all the sudden you start doing stuff you normally wouldn't consider.
12:58 <+MaxieZ> polheh
12:58 <+MaxieZ> heh
12:58 <+MaxieZ> I don't know...I'm just paraphrasing a book I don't believe in
13:00 <@Evilpig> I demand to know where the dinosaurs are in your books of words, MaxieZ!
13:01 <@polerin> the devil created them
13:01 <@polerin> it was one of his masterworks
13:02 <+MaxieZ> Well some people reference dragons and leviathans as dinosaurs.
13:02 <@polerin> the descriptions are way off
13:02 <+MaxieZ> Others say they died out during the flood
13:02 <@polerin> god didn't like them.
13:02 <+MaxieZ> I heard one guy say that after the flood the lack of vegetation killed them
13:04 <@polerin> .. yes because dinosaurs were all vegitarians, and no other animals were
13:04 <@polerin> actually
13:04 <@polerin> I'm curious
13:04 <@Evilpig> you know what really killed the dinosaurs?  it was the aids.  yup.  they were all fuckin' without the rubbers and the aids got em
13:05  * Corydon76-dig licks Evilpig 
13:05 <@Dagmar> rofl
13:05 <@Evilpig> I need bleach now.
13:06 <+MaxieZ> polerin : I've always thought the lack of vegetation was one of the stupidest ideas ever
13:06 <@polerin> for the anti-evolution croud, it might be interesting to calculate the ammount of space neccisary to hold all the (currently known and non-aquatic) animals.
13:06 <@polerin> as well as food supplies for the same
13:06 <+MaxieZ> If that killed the dinosaurs , how the fuck did elephants make it?
13:06 <@polerin> because, you know, these animals were all there previously
13:06 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: and the fences to keep them from eating each other
13:06 <@I-MOD> MaxieZ, cause elephants can swim!
13:06 <+MaxieZ> polerin: they have....it's insane
13:06 <@polerin> MaxieZ: ooo link me?
13:07 <@polerin> I wish I had thought of this before
13:07 <+MaxieZ> let me see if I can find it
13:07 <@polerin> there have been arguments that I really wish I had that info for
13:07 <+MaxieZ> http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html
13:07 <@I-MOD> there are plenty of those arguments that make you dumber just by reading them
13:07 <+MaxieZ> Nm...that's not it
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13:08 <+MaxieZ> My connection is shit cause I'm downloading a movie over my encrypted tunnel
13:09 <@polerin> hehe
13:09 <@polerin> MaxieZ: not to mention it doesn't address the fact that there are large numbers of aquatic animals that can't survive in freshwater
13:09 <+MaxieZ> Please keep in mind that I'm an atheist here and anything I say should be taken with that grain of salt :)
13:09 <@polerin> so how are there still salt water animals around?
13:09 <@polerin> MaxieZ: oh I know.
13:10 <@polerin> I'm just ammused
13:10 <@polerin> hehe
13:10 <@rhia> polerin: divine intervention
13:10 <+MaxieZ> Well we also have freshwater fish getting away scott free
13:10 <+MaxieZ> Evil fish.....getting away ...makes me pissed
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13:10 <@polerin> rhia: why didn't god just protect the other animals then?
13:10 <@Evilpig> if there were evil fish now you know where I got my start
13:11 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> some animals were evil too
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13:11 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> skydog.... whos speaking tonight?
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13:12 <@Evilpig> what is with the bloat in here lately
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13:12 <+MaxieZ> Evilpig: I'm trying to lose it...Catonic already yelled at me about it
13:12 <@rhia> polerin: want the typical answer?  "who can know the mind of god?"  ... i got that a LOT
13:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: we always expand around PhreakNIC
13:13 <@Evilpig> usually after pn not before
13:13 <@polerin> rhia: heh, yeah I know
13:13 <@polerin> rhia: I love this answer here
13:13 <+MaxieZ> rhia: Oh and you have to have faith
13:13 <@Evilpig> rhia: I know what I am thinking damnit.  I don't care that the rest of you can't figure me out
13:13 <@polerin> it's saying that as few as 2,000 animals need be stored
13:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: No, it happens on both ends
13:13 <@polerin> .. right because there are only 1,000 species that exist today
13:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: people want to make sure they don't miss late breaking announcements
13:14 <@Evilpig> we shoudl start making announcements in the topic.  
13:14 <@rhia> polerin: dinos  http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/j-where2.html
13:14 <@polerin> "By pointing out that the word "specie" is not equivalent to the "created kinds" of the Genesis account, Woodmorappe credibly demonstrates that as few as 2,000 animals may have been required on the ark."
13:14 <@polerin> Ok so he fit 2k animals on a boat. that's fine
13:14 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> Why not one giant geneticly unstable creature who would mutate out into various species?
13:14 <@polerin> but...  What about the other species!
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13:14 <+MaxieZ> polerin: But then...if that's true where did all the species come from
13:14 <@rhia> polerin: or 35,000  or 50,000
13:14 <@polerin> why didn't they drown?
13:14 <+MaxieZ> Oh they evolved right?
13:14 <@polerin> hehe
13:14 <+MaxieZ> Bam...evolution in da face!
13:14 <@polerin> MaxieZ: that's what I was getting out
13:14 <@rhia> at 2000, they Prove evolutiion
13:14 <@Evilpig> evolution is a myth!
13:15 <@polerin> err at
13:15 <@polerin> rhia: Divine intervention!
13:15 <@polerin> god saved all those species
13:15 <@polerin> !
13:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: someone paid 2 cartons of cigarettes for him
13:15 <+MaxieZ> Corydon76-dig: For shadow?
13:15 <@I-MOD> wow...that dude got duped
13:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, he's got like no ass
13:16 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> I like the Bill Hicks argument on the subject...
13:16 <@Evilpig> polerin: it wasn't evolution.  god made all the babies of those 2000 mutants.  so now all our animals aren't even real animals they are mutant animals on their way to change the rest of the "normal" population into mutants as well
13:16 <@polerin> kill them all!
13:16 <+MaxieZ> Everytime you run mkreiserfs, God kills someones wife.
13:16 <@Evilpig> just find the magneto turtle that is hiding out int he woods and stop this madness!
13:16 <@polerin> oh, does someone have a good explanation for why different races of man survived the flood too?
13:17 <@polerin> MaxieZ: oh, wow that's bad.
13:17 <+MaxieZ> polerin: what races of men?!
13:17 <@I-MOD> i like how if you take the argument far enough, they'll start denying truth and make no sense except inside their own heads
13:17 <+MaxieZ> Oh you mean like black/chinese etc?
13:17 <+MaxieZ> That happened at the tower of babel
13:17 <@polerin> ah
13:18 <@polerin> I thought that babel had different races prior to building?
13:18 <+MaxieZ> God was like...damn these white people are kicking ass...I need to divide them up into inferior races
13:18 <@I-MOD> then bring up that Jesus was A. middle-eastern, and B. a zombie
13:18 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> err.... some humans were affected differently by the stagnant water left over?
13:18 <@polerin> I-MOD: actually older bibles don't even have a mention of the resurection.
13:18 <+MaxieZ> (that was very sarcastic btw...if I went to far)
13:18 <+MaxieZ> polerin: I've never heard that.
13:18 <@I-MOD> polerin, wouldn't surprise me
13:19 <@I-MOD> though i've never heard of it either
13:19 <@polerin> MaxieZ: heh, no I know where you were coming from, (ie that the person making that argument is likely to be racest.. (which is a bit sterotypical, but i'm not going to argue too hard about it))
13:19 <+MaxieZ> polerin: I know the jefferson bible has it removed, but the ealiest manuscripts I've ever seen have the resurection
13:19 <+MaxieZ> polerin: Thank you :)
13:19 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> yeah.... good point... the koran mentions jesus plenty.. childhood etc... that the "bible" leave out.....
13:19 <+MaxieZ> polerin: and Jesus was white
13:19 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> koran mentions Mary more than the bible does too
13:19 <@polerin> MaxieZ: bullshit.  Jesus was plastic
13:20 <@polerin> Plaaaaaastic jesus
13:20 <@polerin> Plastic Jeeeesus
13:20 <@I-MOD> my own personal jesus....
13:20 <@polerin> sitting on the dashboard of my carrrr
13:20 <@rhia> heh
13:20 <+MaxieZ> Keep in mind the first story of Jesus doesn't come out till 50 years after his DEATH
13:20 <+MaxieZ> so...they had plenty of time to get a good resurection story in there
13:20 <@polerin> MaxieZ: yeah I don't remember where I saw the story
13:20 <@polerin> it may actually have been /.
13:21 <@polerin> good luck googling for THAT story though.
13:21 <+MaxieZ> That would be like know one knowing anything about MLK and someone writing a book 10 years from now
13:21 <+MaxieZ> s/know/no/
13:21 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> but 50 yrs later... everyone had seen the story on RNN (roman news network) and the media never lies
13:21 <@polerin> oh
13:21 <@poiupoiu> http://migration.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/christianity.jpg
13:21 <@polerin> I saw a nice line this morning
13:21 <@polerin> lemmie find it.
13:22 <@polerin> "Jesus was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor."
13:22 <@polerin> I posted it in here once already, but it's just too satisfying
13:22 <@rhia> lol
13:23 <@rhia> polerin: http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/j-dragon1.html     "Sometimes people in olden times made up scary or funny stories"
13:23  * polerin falls out of her chair
13:23 <+MaxieZ> Wow that jpg makes christianity sound awesome
13:24 <@poiupoiu> MaxieZ, i read that and think "you know... all of that IS true"
13:24 <@polerin> rhia: ... olden times.  Like.. the middle ages?
13:24 <+MaxieZ> Yeah...but how much cooler would it be if you told people you worshiped a telepathic zombie who lets you eat his flesh
13:25 <@polerin> ... cuz .. you know.. uh.. St. George?
13:25 <@poiupoiu> wonder if that was his way of saying "eat me"
13:25 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> Some christian science prof went to a university "to be made fun of" he called it....   the university was in a state that REQUIRED "both sides of the story"... so they wanted the 2nd opinion during their evolution class.... they listened to him talk about all species of dogs evolving from 2 dogs on the arc......   the professor said "i find that hard to beleive"    .. christian said..."well... its easier to beleive th
13:25 <@rhia> just luv that paragraph coming from THAT site ....  sublime =)
13:26 <@polerin> "well.. its easier to beleive th
13:26 <@polerin> you cut off on your paste
13:26 <+MaxieZ> yeah..
13:26 <@polerin> rhia: I know
13:26 <@polerin> rhia: like ...  hmm  I donno.. Someone waving their arms and causing a sea to part?
13:26 <@polerin> or blowing trumpets and having the walls of a city fall down?
13:26 <@I-MOD> i do it twice a day
13:26 <+MaxieZ> People made up stories...not god
13:26 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> i went to school with a guy so dirty... water ran from him too
13:26 <@I-MOD> to and from work
13:27 <@rhia> or the sun going backwards
13:27 <+MaxieZ> rhia: Love the sun going backwards
13:27 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> what about singing and making a glass break?
13:27 <@Evilpig> how did we get on this topic to begin with?  and why does it suddenly stop the A.D.D. in this channel everytime it is mentioned?
13:27 <+MaxieZ> That happens all the time...like what happened when the earth slowed down...
13:27 <@polerin> Evilpig: Ironically I'm one of the people with ADHD in here, and one of the last ones to let a topic go
13:27 <+MaxieZ> why weren't we sucked into the sun
13:28 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> we were at a bigger orbit before?
13:28 <@Evilpig> polerin: something shiny just hasn't rolled by you yet.  ooo look a quarter
13:28 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> now the ice age is over?
13:28 <@polerin> Evilpig: mmhm.  Right.
13:29 <@Evilpig> just saying on average most topics in here last maybe 5 min.  this goofy tangent has gone on at least 20
13:29 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> cool... so i caught it close to the start huh?
13:30 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> oh by the way folks... I have scientific proof that Apes evolved from humans.....
13:30 <@Evilpig> you have hairy knuckles like an ape?
13:30 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> will be the topic of my new website
13:30 <@Evilpig> I wouldn't go telling eveyrone that
13:30 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : You live near a lake.  Buy my fishing boat from me.
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13:30 <@Evilpig> no.  water is bad.
13:31 <@Dolemite> The fishing boat would get vorshi and the kids out of the house and leave you alone with NotLarry's wife.
13:32 <@polerin> Evilpig: it's your fault.  It started with you asking about porn.
13:32 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> porn to dinos? i missed that one...
13:32 <@Dolemite> dino porn!
13:32 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> painted as clowns
13:32 <@Evilpig> damnit!  damn you porn!  sweet beautiful magnificent PORN!
13:33 <@Dolemite> wait, you're getting me too aroused
13:33 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> TightManASSourous Sex?
13:33 <@polerin> Obi_Wan_Shinobi: yeah.  I sorta sent it on a tangent when I mentioned calculating the volume required to store every known specie of animal that could not have survived the flood (and the required food)
13:34 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> in finland they got some kinda seed repository with 57867846557689476 types to replenish the earth in case of disaster
13:34 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> like 2-3 miles underground
13:35 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> saw a few months ago.... will give more info when i find a reference
13:36 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> Who @ nash2600 has an ASUS EeePC ?
13:36 <@Evilpig> skypuppy
13:37 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> yeah.. saw that one...black
13:37 < eryc> A steady stream of devoted evolutionists continued to gather in this small Tennessee town today to witness what many believe is an image of Charles Darwin—author of The Origin Of Species and founder of the modern evolutionary movement—made manifest on a concrete wall in downtown Dayton.
13:37 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> HAHAHAHAHA
13:38 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> I saw Elvis in the patern of a marble tabletop in a chinese buffet...... I took pictures
13:38 < eryc> "I brought my baby to touch the wall, so that the power of Darwin can purify her genetic makeup of undesirable inherited traits," said Darlene Freiberg, one among a growing crowd assembled here to see the mysterious stain, which appeared last Monday on one side of the Rhea County Courthouse.
13:39 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> i wanna buy it now... and epoxy it to my patio... charge people $50 to kneel in my driveway
13:39 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> (anyone else got a better way to pay for gas?)
13:41 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> What if noah had more boats? but they were jacked by pirates? and he re-wrote the history books to cover his mistake??? no one was left alive to call him a liar! ... but the other boats survived..
13:42 < eryc> there was no boat and theres no fucking spoon either
13:43 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> forget climbing a mountain in Turkey......     I bet One-Eyed Willy hid one of the boats in a cave out past the boonies....
13:43 < eryc> by death or god, you will obey.
13:43  * Corydon76-dig fucks eryc with a spoon
13:44 <@Dolemite> there is no spoon
13:44 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> spoons evolved from dull knives that got stepped on by elephants in the arc
13:45 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> over the years.... eveloution took hold.. they lost their need to be pointy
13:46 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> but some skeletal remains can be found bleached whit by time... in the little plastic bags at KFC
13:46 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> sporks are the missing link
13:52 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : I have a kitchen pass for the weekend.  Wife and kid are visiting the grandparents Saturday and Sunday.  Me.  You.  Power leveling..
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13:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Obi_Wan_Shinobi: you do realize that forks were the last implement invented, right?
13:54 <@Corydon76-dig> both knives and spoons predated forks by a long time
13:54 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> so the media WANTS you to beleive
13:54 <@coil> nom niomnom
13:55 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I am right now considering going to hotlanta for the weekend
13:56 <@Evilpig> if I don't do that.  level 70 here you come
13:56 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : We can find you internetz in Hotlanta
13:57 <@Evilpig> yes but I might not have the will / desire to look a computer depending on what I might be doing there.  *wink* *wink* 
13:57 <@coil> homo
13:57 <@Dolemite> well, yeah, but that's only 30 minutes
13:58 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> only a homo for 30 min?
13:58 <@Evilpig> at this pointl ike 5.  but I figure like 5000 times
13:59 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ODD - Orientation Deficit Disorder???
13:59 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ttfn
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14:10 <@Dolemite> TLC - You coming to The Corner Pub for Happy Hour before the meeting?
14:10 < TheLightCosine> crap, Dole: what was that address again? I saved it on my igoogle but it apparently didn't save
14:10 < TheLightCosine> sure
14:10 < TheLightCosine> is it safe to leave my lappy in my car?
14:11 <@Dolemite> they have wifi in there, why would you leave your lappy?
14:11 < TheLightCosine> rofl
14:11 <@Dolemite> http://nashville.citysearch.com/profile/44655644/nashville_tn/corner_pub_midtown.html
14:11 <@Dolemite> There's the pub, you can meet us there
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14:11 < TheLightCosine> what time?
14:12 <@Dolemite> I'll be there about 4:00-4:15
14:12 < TheLightCosine> k i'll prolly be there a bit later than that, take me ~45 minutes to get back up into nash
14:12 < nated0g_wrk> why do you no longer meet at JJ's?
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14:14 <@Dolemite> It wasn't always available
14:14 <@Dolemite> we made a group decision to move
14:14 < TheLightCosine> i'll be the skinny dork in the Alienware cap heh
14:14 <@Dolemite> TheLightCosine : Look for a fat guy and a skinny guy drinking newcastle, with a few others possibly.
14:15 < TheLightCosine> kk
14:15 <@Dolemite> I think SkyPooch said he was going to join us, but you never know
14:15 < TheLightCosine> i have a general diea of what u look like from the ircstats page heh
14:16 < tdc_vga_> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b27431_republicans_take_heart_heart_takes_it.html
14:16 < tdc_vga_> herheheh the comments are a trip
14:16 < tdc_vga_> one brilliant republican touts about how "she has a mind and she can think for herself"  and how playing the song at the convention is no different than playing it at a party.. not like they pirated it before they played it.
14:16 < TheLightCosine> is parking hard to find down there?
14:17 <@someninjamaster> where
14:17 < tdc_vga_> ahhhh the brilliance of modern americans and the depth of their legal knowledge
14:17 <@Dolemite> TheLightCosine : Just look for this pimp:
14:17 <@Dolemite> ~minilink http://www.e-comsultant.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2440
14:17 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/e-comsultant.net/KZdI0.php
14:17 < tdc_vga_> --another comment: Every time a song is played at a wedding/prom, does permission need to be asked? It's not like someone was up there singing their song.
14:18 < tdc_vga_> actually yes, yes it does. hahahha
14:20 < TheLightCosine> nice dole
14:20 <@Dagmar> roothorick: Are you *sure* you've got the database right? ...and that "Strange..." error is gone?
14:23 < TheLightCosine> someninjamaster: down by vandy/the pub
14:24 <@Dolemite> TheLightCosine : You will be able to find ample parking at the pub (the parking lot behind it is usually wide open) and at the meeting
14:24 < TheLightCosine> excellent
14:25 < TheLightCosine> still very new to the area
14:25 < TheLightCosine> i need a shower and a shave
14:26 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, you pimp
14:26 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Was that ever in question?
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14:28 <@nachoguy> nope
14:28 <@nachoguy> I've me the man, the myth, the legend
14:28 <@nachoguy> s/me/met/
14:29 <@Dolemite> You've consumed Guinness in an Irish Pub with me, even.
14:29 <@nachoguy> indeed
14:30 <@nachoguy> I've got some cider that I may bring down, if it lasts that long
14:30 <@Dolemite> Alas, nothing as nice as the fingerprint readers given away at the last Data Center World.  At least not en masse.  Everybody now does drawings for goodies, but they range from iPods to Tivos to flat screen TVs.
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14:30 <@Dolemite> NotLarry just bottled his first batch yesterday
14:30 <@Dolemite> I have a batch fermenting right now and am brewing pumpkin ale this weekend
14:31 <@Dolemite> I'll be takin' pics for my presentation
14:31 <@nachoguy> ah, sadly it's not mine.  I figure after watching your home brew talk at this PN, I'll start
14:31 <@Dolemite> Start with the Apfelwein.  It's the cheapest and easiest to get started with and produces a very strong cider.
14:31 <@Dolemite> Then start working on beer, which requires actual cooking.
14:32 <@Dolemite> I'll be going over the recipe and preparations in detail during my talk
14:32 <@nachoguy> I've gotten the wife hooked on some mircobrew beer and after touring a cider place (and spending quite a bit of time talking with their brewers, I think she's game.
14:32 <@Dolemite> cool deal
14:32 <@Dolemite> what's the name of the suburb you live in?
14:34 < eryc> shitville
14:34 <@nachoguy> Harvey, Il
14:34 <@Dolemite> http://www.getfave.com/locations/173636-beer-stuff
14:35 <@Dolemite> They don't appear to have a website, though.  Boycott them.
14:35 <@nachoguy> I may have walked through there
14:35 <@Dolemite> http://www.bev-art.com - This one isn't too far from there
14:35 <@nachoguy> I'm trying to recall the last time I went to that mall
14:36 <@nachoguy> hah, that place is stumbling distance from the inlaw's house
14:36 <@nachoguy> I know cause it's on the South Side Irish parade route
14:36 <@Dolemite> This bev-art place has a two session brewing class...
14:37 <@Dolemite> sounds like a good way to get started...   it includes the ingredients for your first batch and they store the batch during fermentation
14:37 <@Dolemite> but then again, it's not rocket science
14:37 <@coil> how do i brew
14:37 <@Dolemite> you can buy all of your equipment for the first batch for the same price
14:38 <@nachoguy> yeah, I've actually looked at that place for the winemaking class.
14:38 <@Dolemite> prices are just a little higher than the place I go to, so for being in a big city, it's not bad at all
14:38 <@nachoguy> I just need to rig up some temperature sensors in my basement to make sure that the temp is constant enough.  There are heated floors in areas.
14:39 <@Dolemite> If the basement is underground it should be pretty constant
14:39 <@nachoguy> the price isn't bad at all.  There's a winery that we go to fairly often that has classes for like $400
14:39 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, it's just hte heated floors I worry about
14:39 <@Dolemite> They're heating the floor overhead, right?  Not the basement floor itself?
14:40 <@Dolemite> If they're properly insulated then it shouldn't affect it at all
14:40 <@Dagmar> So... guesses as to how much the PA guys will get offered for http://www.penny-arcade.com/uploads/2008/09/05/jim1.jpg ?
14:41 <@nachoguy> no, in my neck of the woods heated floors are *under* the floor.  =>
14:41 < eryc> one banana peel
14:41 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Yeah, I understand, but is the basement floor heated, or are you worried about the ground floor heaters that have the basement below them?
14:41 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking that if Far Side wound up in the Smithsonian, Gabe's in real danger of being accused of committing "timeless art"
14:41 <@nachoguy> the basement floor is heated
14:41 <@Dolemite> ah
14:42 <@polerin> http://thecurvature.com/2008/09/04/republican-congressman-calls-barack-and-michelle-obama-uppity/
14:42 < eryc> nachos sound good
14:42 <@nachoguy> though the area I was going to use for long term wine storage (we have a decent collection) was close to the wall, and once you get a foor or so up, should be fairly safe.  That's why I need to rig up a temp sensor to make sure
14:42 <@polerin> Damn.  just... uh.. damn.
14:42 <@Dolemite> well you could just elevate the fermenter in that case.  Put it on top of a milk crate or something else that's strong enough to hold about 30-40 lbs.
14:42 < eryc> polerin: quite hatemongering
14:43 <@Dolemite> gotcha
14:43 <@nachoguy> yeah I figure 8-10 inches off the floor should be safe
14:43 < eryc> polerin: jesus is voting for mccain
14:43 <@nachoguy> eryc, they're old college buddies
14:43 <@polerin> heheh
14:44 <@sdodson> HI THERE!
14:44 <@Dagmar> I suspect were Jesus around, if he were anywhere near Capitol Hill, we'd find out of the son of god's "whuppin' hand" can actually get tired
14:44 <@Dagmar> s/out of/out if/;
14:44 <@nachoguy> bbl, I need to go hunt and hill a project manager.
14:44 <@polerin> oh, also
14:45 <@polerin> Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said that Obama's middle name . Hussein . is relevant to the public discourse surrounding his candidacy, saying in March that if Obama were elected, "Then the radical Islamists, the al Qaeda, the radical Islamists and their supporters, will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on Sept. 11 because they will declare victory in this War on Terror."
14:45 <@polerin> AWESOME.
14:45 <@Dagmar> Well, he _could_ always change it to 'Cheezburger'
14:45 <@polerin> hell no
14:45 <@polerin> Barack "Freedom Fries" Obama
14:47 <@I-MOD> lol
14:48 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Friday.
14:48 <@Catonic> you ain't got no job, and you ain't got shit to do.
14:49 < eryc> speaking of freedom fry, http://www.gnu.org/
14:49 <@Dagmar> More like "/me checks the weather radar"
14:49  * poiupoiu hits brimstone with a baseball bat
14:49 <@poiupoiu> freedom!
14:49 <@Dagmar> I like the scooter but I don't care to be on the roads with people going "OMG WEEKEND!"
14:49 <@brimstone> eep!
14:49 <@Dagmar> I better get cleaned up here and head to Bongo
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14:51 < dochench> what time is the 2600 meeting?
14:51 <@coil> what area code
14:52 < dochench> 615
14:52 <@coil> 6 PM at the Vanderbilt University Hill Center, Room 151, 1231 18th Avenue South (http://www.nashville2600.org)
15:02 <@SkyDog_> dochench: Show up if you can man! It'd be good to see you and catch up.
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15:06 < eryc> its byow bukake night at 2600
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15:39 < nated0g_wrk> 5 cannot come fast enough!
15:40 < dochench> 5 is already here for me.. i think i worked maybe a ttl of 10 hours this week. :D
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15:43 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Are you coming to the Corner Pub?
15:43 < TheLightCosine> Dolemite: writing down directions then i'm heading that way, be there about 45min-1hr
15:43 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: That's my plan.
15:44 <@SkyDog_> Lee baird is coming too. I think skinner also.
15:44 < TheLightCosine> lee baird, is he any relation to a marc baird?
15:45 < dochench> corner pub? beer pre-meeting?
15:47 <@Dagmar> Seriously?
15:47 <+MxZBot> seriously are they newly changed one ways?
15:47 <@Dagmar> Lee is coming?
15:47 <@Dagmar> lol
15:47 <@SkyDog_> TheLightCosine: Dunno.
15:48 < TheLightCosine> hunh my old Team Lead at work was a Marc Baird and was the one who told me you guys existed
15:48 <@SkyDog_> He's coming to the corner pub. he Might come to the meeting. Why?
15:50 < TheLightCosine> anyways, heading out, cya folks there. i'll be the skinny guy with the bad goatee and alienware cap, if someone spots me please wave lol i am not good at spotting people in a crowd
15:50 <@SkyDog_> See you there.
15:51  * dochench thinks he may grab some brew at corner pub also.
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15:52 <@Evilpig> 404 folks.  how close is marietta to the aquarium?
15:53 <@Dolemite> 20-25 miles
15:54 <@Dolemite> seeing as how I'm an ex-404 folk
15:54 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  thatisn't bad.  
15:54 <@Dolemite> Wait, no.
15:54 <@brimstone> you don't count
15:54 <@Evilpig> difference is $90 in marietta or $125-$130 downtown
15:54 <@Dolemite> It's 432 miles.  You may as well cancel your trip and stay home to power level my character in WoW.
15:56 <@sdodson> hi!
15:56 <@rhia> Evilpig: it's about 18 to 20 miles - or 2 hrs during rush hr
15:56 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFUDEmMjC-c
15:56 <@brimstone> sup sdodson?
15:56 <@sdodson> brimstone: nada mucho
15:56 < eryc> watch that video!!
15:57 <@rhia> Evilpig: and depending on where in marietta the hotel is located
15:57 <@Evilpig> right on 79 I think
15:57 < dochench> heh, what a fucknut
15:57 <@Feltenix> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=225+Baker+St,+Atlanta,+GA+30313+(Georgia+Aquarium)&daddr=marietta&hl=en&geocode=FfkrAwIdYj_4-g%3B&mra=ls&sll=33.878967,-84.440231&sspn=0.262799,0.617981&ie=UTF8&ll=33.857302,-84.467697&spn=0.262866,0.617981&z=11 google says about 18 miles
15:57 <@rhia> Evilpig: 75?
15:57 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFUDEmMjC-c
15:57 <@brimstone> i can't eryc
15:58 < dochench> the kids screaming at the end kinda looks like a young eric stoltz
15:58 < dochench> s/kids/kid/
15:59 <@Evilpig> Your Confirmation Number is  67350983      
15:59 <@brimstone> hey, that's my confirmation number too!
16:00 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: put aztal, gromnir, vorshi, erevis and andzrel on your friends list.  he'll run your through stuff
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16:00 <@sdodson> those are some neat names
16:01 <@Evilpig> gotta pack
16:02 <@Dolemite> Well NotLarry said his group isn't raiding until Lich King comes out, so he can help me
16:02 <@Dolemite> anywho, time for Corner Pub happy hour
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16:07 <@Dagmar> Damn
16:07 <@Dagmar> Rain sucks
16:08 <@polerin> heh.  Pro-war counterprotesters are ammusing...  they pretty much  stand there and chant "U.S.A"
16:09 <@I-MOD> we have some of those too!
16:10 <@polerin> Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNc9ImWpNT0&NR=1   if you want futher perspective on the unarrest, this is how the police really arrest someone
16:14 <@Dagmar> Well, it looks like I have a window of not-rain to work with
16:16 <@Evilpig> I'm outta here.  later ppl
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17:42 <@timoguin> Haha.
17:43 <@timoguin> Heather's old manager that she hated...
17:43 <@timoguin> He's being sued for sexual harassment.
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18:05 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/zimbio.com/GXHlo
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18:06 <+MaxieZ> That's a photo shop...got to be
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18:12 <@Dagmar> BLeh rain.
18:12 <@Dagmar> Kinda stuck at Bongo for the moment
18:12 <@Dagmar> WIll be at the Hill Center eventually (once it dies down a bit)
18:14 <@Dolemite> Dagmar : Get over here, you l00ser!
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20:48 < geoffscoffee> evenin
20:48 < geoffscoffee> sorry i missed the meeting, my car's brakes started grinding
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21:09 <@polerin> so
21:09 <@polerin> uh
21:09 <@polerin> nice minutes
21:10 <@polerin> think you can be a little more dismissive about any female involvement in the community?
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21:24 <@coil> nah
21:28 < dasunt> polerin: Women don't like computers, duh.
21:28 < dasunt> :p
21:28 <@polerin> cute.
21:28 <@polerin> yeah thats why we have to have two active computers at a minimum in my house
21:29 <@polerin> because women don't like them.  :P
21:29 < dasunt> I'm overly sensitive about saying what women like/don't like based on gender.
21:29 <@polerin> what?
21:29 < dasunt> Too much RNC coverage (I'm in the St Paul area right now).
21:29 <@polerin> oh
21:29 <@polerin> lol
21:29 <@polerin> oh really.  who?
21:29 <@polerin> err
21:29 <@polerin> crap that who was supposed to be in an IM window
21:30 < dasunt> And you wouldn't believe how many people believe that it is okay for a man to be pro-life, but Palin being pro-life means she's obviously been brainwashed.
21:30 <@polerin> oh really, what has the local coverage about the protests been like?
21:30 < dasunt> I may not agree with Palin's political outlook, but fuck, she can make her own decision.
21:30 <@polerin> dasunt: you won't really hear that from many feminists.
21:30 <@polerin> they just call her out on her politics :P
21:31 < dasunt> polerin: Heh, when I was at the pan-leftist anarchist bookstore collective today (not to be confused with the pan-leftist marxist bookstore collective, and yes, we have two pan-leftist bookstore collectives), they got a call about one of the groups whose members were the focus of the crackdown.
21:32 <@polerin> dasunt: oh trust me, I know the difference between the leftists :P
21:32 < dasunt> I don't.
21:32 < dasunt> The anarchist subgroups confuse me.
21:32 <@polerin> hehe
21:32 <@polerin> well
21:32 <@polerin> the difference between the anarchists and the marxists is historical as well as in theory
21:32 < dasunt> I'm not sure if the RNC Welcoming Comittee is even anarchist, to be honest.  It's not like the media takes time to investigate.
21:33 <@polerin> the marxists have stabbed us in the back over and over
21:33 <@polerin> dasunt: I believe it is from the particular things I've read about their prep and the things they have said/meetings they've gone too
21:33 < dasunt> Someone I know once said it best:  Socialism for necessities, capitalism for luxuries.
21:34 <@polerin> I don't really have the energy for the discussion right now, but that's a good way to facisim
21:34 < dasunt> I dunno.
21:34 <@polerin> because it still implies hierarchy
21:34 <@polerin> and authoritarian socialism is ....  not good.
21:35 < dasunt> Perhaps it is a result of my religious upbringing, but I don't mind living in a society where the government works to make sure people don't starve to death.
21:35 <@polerin> oh, no you don't understand where I'm coming from
21:35 <@polerin> I'm no capitalist, and think the "free market" is shit
21:35 <@polerin> i'm an anarcho-syndicalist
21:35 < dasunt> OTOH, if you are unwilling/unable to work, I don't have any problem with you eating potatoes or rice for dinner and living in a studio apartment or with a roommate.
21:36 <@polerin> btw
21:36 < dasunt> I have this strange mix of political philosophies, just to warn you.
21:37 < dasunt> And I'm drunk.
21:37 <@polerin> if you hear someone saying they are an anarcho-capitalist, they are full of shit.  it's radical free-marketism, what is more commonly known as libertarianism in the US.  It's not capitalism
21:37 <@polerin> err
21:37 <@polerin> it's not anarchy
21:37 <@polerin> it's capitalism
21:41 < dasunt> Isn't capitalism anarchy?
21:41 <@polerin> nope
21:42 <@polerin> integral to capitalism is the hierarchy of buyer and seller, the taker and the giver.
21:42 <@polerin> this is true especially in the buyer/seller relationship of employeer and worker
21:43 <@polerin> the worker is trying to obtain capital (money in this case) and to pay for it with their labor
21:43 <@polerin> the labor is worth more to the employer than they pay the worker
21:44 <@polerin> so, you may say that it is fine, and it's ok.  **shrugs**
21:45 <@polerin> I don't personally agree, but thats fine.  But don't call capitalism anarchy.  anarchy is a collection of anti-authoritarian social theories
21:45 <@polerin> if you ever get interested and bored
21:46 <@polerin> read this ..  http://www.infoshop.org/faq/index.html
22:03 <@Evilpig> greetings one and all from fabulous atlanta, ga
22:19 <@Dagmar> bleh
22:19 <@Dagmar> All the trouble to tuck the scooter out of the way at the office and it *stops fucking misting* when we leave
22:30 <@Evilpig> has anyone talked to Shadow404 lately?
22:55 <@polerin> http://www.avatarsculptureworks.com/jamiegallery2.htm
22:55 <@polerin> neat scuplture
23:37  * polerin pokes aestetix_ 
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23:58 <@someninjamaster> Evilpig: why didnt you stop by the meeting
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