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00:00 < eryc> besides, you shouldnt try to pet someone elses scorpion
00:00 <@Catonic> you shouldn't pet strange monkeys
00:01 <@sdodson> 10 years ago that's how it all started, wasn't it Catonic?
00:03 <@Catonic> what movie?
00:04 < eryc> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/284371/mission_gangster/
00:05 < eryc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetilla_cheese
00:09 <@Catonic> I was thinking seven or something
00:20 <@aestetix> dongz
00:28 <@juice> hi
00:34 <@aestetix> man
00:34 <@aestetix> I just finished watching the Social Engineering panel from HOPE
00:34 <@aestetix> Man I love that talk
00:34 <@critch> Back from the drag strip. Yay
00:35 <@critch> ware: you still around?
00:41 < cwire> what kind of bike you have critch?
00:42 <@critch> 2003 Aprilia Caponord etv1000
00:42 < cwire> what kind of times did you get?
00:43 <@critch> Here is the baby picture of my bike. I was only about 200 miles into my first ride with it at that point. http://www.basesys.com/~critch/bike.jpg
00:43 <@critch> I was consistently in the low 13s with it on the 1/4mile
00:43 < cwire> not too bad
00:44 <@critch> worst run was a 13.637, best was a 13.043
00:44 <@critch> one run out of 12 dropped below 100 mph, mostly listing at 102mph
00:45 < cwire> pretty cool
00:46 <@critch> yeah, no I am thinking I might want to get a new front sprocket that is 2 teeth smaller. Would change the ratio from 2.647 to 1 to 3 to 1. Should up the HP at the wheel at the cost of my overall top end and a little fuel economy.
00:46 <@critch> s/no/now/
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00:47 < cwire> have you taken it to the track before or is this the first time?
00:47 <@critch> First time ever.
00:48 < cwire> sweet
00:48 <@critch> I figure the sprocket change will get me 13% better HP at the wheel
00:48 <@critch> nice, that qould equate to 11 hp increase
00:48 <@critch> hmm, now I need to check price.
00:49 < cwire> 11hp isn't bad for just changing the sprocket
00:49 <@critch> yep, and only $40 diff in price.
00:49 <@critch> Or really just a $40 investment
00:50 < cwire> cool
00:51 <@critch> Bike Dynoed back in June at 88hp and 58lb-ft. That was with 45k miles on the untouched motor
00:51 <@critch> No I am just a hair short of 50k miles on it.
00:51 < cwire> low 13s aren't too bad for 50k
00:52 <@critch> I was running side by side with a buddy of mine on a victory 1600. He nearly broke under 12s
00:53 <@critch> heh, the guy with the gsxr600 was in the mid 11s
00:53 < cwire> hehe
00:55 <@critch> Closest run rookie made on my ticket was a 12.045 and 120.01mph on his victory
00:56 <@SkyDog_> Just got thru playing with mine. Made a bracket for the rear seat that wrench or the previous owner had lost.
00:56 <@SkyDog_> Changed the oil and filter, and adjusted a bunch of stuff.
00:57 <@SkyDog_> Was watching the security cameras, and someone walked up to my truck...
00:57 <@SkyDog_> I walked over to the door, and watched them peer into my truck...
00:57 <@critch> oops, looks like that number was actually a different sport bike.
00:57 <@SkyDog_> I hit the front door, which is like 15 feet from my truck, with a baseball bat. He made a b-line off the property.
00:58 < cwire> haha nice
00:59 <@critch> I think I might be hooked on drag racing the bike.
01:00 <@critch> It is a bit of a hike to run up to Bowling Green, but I now understand the reason my buddy did it. Paid $10 to get in, and we made 12 runs on the quarter mile.
01:01 <@critch> Also realized my bike and I together are 920 pounds.
01:02 < cwire> aestetix: you were watching the panel?  where's the video? i know the audio's on hope's site
01:02 < eryc> its on nbc
01:02 <@critch> SkyDog_: are you still thinking you might want a sport bike?
01:11 <@aestetix> hey
01:11 <@aestetix> http://hopetracker.donthax.me/
01:13 < cwire> thanks
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01:17 < eryc> sweet thanks aestetix
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02:15 < eryc> crap i need audio codec
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04:55 < TheLightCosine> morning
05:24 <@strages> alright, say you had a drive-in theatre around.  doesn't show new movies just older ones.  what movies would you like to see?
05:28 < TheLightCosine> how old?
05:31 <@strages> out on dvd at least
05:34 < TheLightCosine> hmm
05:35 < TheLightCosine> perosnally, i'd wanna see Alien and Aliens on big screen, and probably the original Predator
05:35 < TheLightCosine> oh the original die Hard too
05:36 < TheLightCosine> stuff i was too young to see when it came out in theatres =p
05:37 < TheLightCosine> Hunt for the Red October would be awesome on big screen i bet
06:07 < TheLightCosine> grrr frigging fracking asp
06:19 < M0j0-j0j0> gym time
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06:57 < TheLightCosine> Dolemite: *ping*
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07:30  * wizardpc wanders in
07:30 <@Shadow404> strages: pron!
07:31 <@wizardpc> The joys of IT Recruiters
07:31 <@wizardpc> I have a phone interview today
07:31 <@wizardpc> but I dont know what time, who with, or what the job is really about
07:31 <@Shadow404> dude, i keep getting the headhunter calls
07:31 <@wizardpc> I <3 recruiters
07:32 < TheLightCosine> heh
07:32 <@Shadow404> i just say send me an email
07:32 < TheLightCosine> wizardpc: you looking for work?
07:32 <@Shadow404> they usually do half the time
07:32 <@wizardpc> TheLightCosine: my company got bought, and the new company is cutting my pay by $25,000 at the start of next year
07:33 <@wizardpc> so yeah
07:33 < TheLightCosine> ouch
07:33 < TheLightCosine> well judging by the size of your paycutt you woudln't be itnerested in working here heh
07:33 < TheLightCosine> you're pay got cutt by over half my salary =P
07:33 < TheLightCosine> wth
07:33 < TheLightCosine> why do i keep putting an extra t there
07:33 <@wizardpc> yeah im kind of a big deal
07:34 <@wizardpc> :D
07:34 < TheLightCosine> heh
07:34 < TheLightCosine> we are down two people on our service desk
07:34 < TheLightCosine> and i'd like to get those slots filled soon
07:35 < TheLightCosine> so if anyone is hard up for work lemme know =P
07:35 < TheLightCosine> it's not glorious or anything, it's a cube-monkey job but it's steady work with benes
07:55 < TheLightCosine> so what do you do, wizardpc?
07:55 < TheLightCosine> generally speaking that is
07:58 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:58 <@wizardpc> I customize mortgage origination software
07:59 < TheLightCosine> Dole!
07:59 < TheLightCosine> wizardpc: sounds very niche
07:59 <@Dolemite> wizardpc : Damn, they told you that this far in advance?  They are trying to get people to leave by attrition so that they don't have to lay off and pay severance.
08:00 <@wizardpc> well, really what I do is a little C#, a lot of SQL DBA stuff, shittons of upgrades with 150 pages of detailed instructions..
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08:01 <@wizardpc> Dolemite: well what they have said is "Regarding the travel bonus, we are going to make sure you are in line with the rest of the company"
08:01 <@Dolemite> They are telling you that you are easily replaced by a guy who rides a bicycle to work in Bangalore.
08:01 < TheLightCosine> heh sounds like when i worked for embarq
08:02 <@oddball> TheLightCosine: are you looking for entry level positions?  I know a guy that might be interested
08:02 < TheLightCosine> it's sort of entry level, some level of experience in IT preferably
08:02 < TheLightCosine> it's a Tier 2 service desk
08:03 < TheLightCosine> it'sUK hours 1am-10am or 3am-noon
08:04 <@oddball> Ah, ok... this guy is definately entry level.  I'm not sure how he'd feel about the hours.  He's trying to get out of retail at the moment.
08:04 <@Shadow404> oddball: whats his location?
08:04 <@oddball> Nashville
08:04 < TheLightCosine> the biggest thing we're looking for is a desire to learn, and willingness to work the shift
08:05 <@Shadow404> damn, ok
08:05 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : How's your apfelwein?
08:05 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: mmmm, perfect
08:05 <@brimstone> apple wine?
08:05 <@Shadow404> gets better with age, like you said
08:05 <@Dolemite> I have a batch percolating for PN and NotLarry will be bottling up his first batch in 2 weeks.
08:05 <@Shadow404> the first bottle, doesnt compare to the aged ones now
08:05 <@Dolemite> brimstone : No, german HARD cider.  Hard, as in 8.5% ABV.
08:06 <@Shadow404> yeah, did the math, my batch came to about 8.9
08:06 < TheLightCosine> oddball: http://www.willis.com/Careers/Opportunities/          It's the support coordinator position if they are interested
08:06 <@oddball> cool, thanks.
08:06 <@brimstone> Dolemite: ah, named like kirshwasser
08:06 <@Dolemite> I didn't bother to take a hydrometer reading on my batch for PN.  Should be very close to the last batch since it's the same recipe.
08:07 <@Dolemite> The next weekend that my wife goes out of town I'll be brewing up some pn0x0bian Pumpkin Ale
08:07 <@Shadow404> yeah, i usually do it on the first batch of a new recipe or if i make changes to batches that follow
08:08 <@Shadow404> i like to get an idea of what im actually consuming, being so skinny, when i do get drunk, its quite sudden
08:08 <@Dolemite> I drank 3 pints of apfelwein the other night.  Barely made it back downstairs to the bedroom before passing out.
08:08 <@Shadow404> heh, yes, makes me very sleepy
08:08 <@Dolemite> It's excellent for getting you ready for bed
08:09 <@Shadow404> alwys seems to wake me up at 5am on the dot for, well nature
08:10 <@Shadow404> so i usually hold off on apfelwien consumption for weekends and use the ale as the staple come home from work brew
08:10 < TheLightCosine> Dolemite: in ASP.net if i want to run a sql query and just check to see if the record exists, what's the best way to test for that? isn't there like a rowcount function or soemthing that will tell you how many records the select statement returned?
08:11 <@Dolemite> TheLightCosine : you just want to know if you got anything back, or you want to know exactly how many rows were returned?
08:11 <@I-MOD> select COUNT(colname) from table where blah blah blah;
08:11 <@I-MOD> i think that should work...
08:11 <@I-MOD> at least, it does for mysql
08:12 <@Dolemite> If you just want to know if your query returned anything, you can check recordset.BOF.  If true, there were no records.
08:12 < TheLightCosine> if i got anything back
08:12 < TheLightCosine> i just need to prevent duplicate PK entry attempts
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08:16 < TheLightCosine> hmm, i've been using data reader and then binding directly to a datagrid, so i will need to take a slighlty different approach it looks like
08:16 <@Dolemite> Is the primary key something you can use an identity field for?
08:17 < TheLightCosine> i don't think so, setting identity auto-increments right/
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08:21 <@Dolemite> yes
08:21 < ware> no.
08:21 < ware> f no.
08:29 <@oddball> Oh, this is cute... the ethernet driver Dell has for this laptop is broken.
08:29 < TheLightCosine> i think i can actually do reader.HasRows and test off of that, otherwise i'd have to do my query a different way then i've been building, cus the way i've been doing it doesn't create a recordset object
08:29 <@brimstone> who still users ethernet anyway oddball?
08:29 <@brimstone> it's a laptop, you're suppose to be wireless and free!
08:30 <@oddball> Sorry, let me rephrase, the self extracting zip file from Dell's website is curupted to the point that I can't unzip it.
08:30 <@brimstone> yay!
08:30 <@oddball> I fucking hate Dell.
08:30 <@I-MOD> *n*x ftw
08:30 < TheLightCosine> heh
08:31 <@wizardpc> throw debian on it
08:32 <@wizardpc> then watch the user's head explode
08:32 <@oddball> oh god, how this lady would bitch about that.
08:32 <@wizardpc> five it the standard windows xp background, she'll never know the difference
08:32 <@wizardpc> er give
08:32 <@I-MOD> lol
08:32 <@oddball> The other IT guy and I have semi-joked about turning this place into a linux site
08:33 <@brimstone> a little ie4linux, same diff
08:33 <@I-MOD> but it looks different! "oh, that's just the next upgrade"
08:33 < ware> wine
08:33 <@brimstone> it's windows 7
08:33 <@wizardpc> its vista sp1
08:33 <@brimstone> it's "new"
08:33 < TheLightCosine> heh
08:34 <@oddball> I was hoping to be able to have the office running on OpenOffice by now, but it can't convert MS Office 2007 docs.
08:34 < TheLightCosine> "none of my games work" "that's a feature"
08:34 <@oddball> "this attachment some random guy sent me won't open"
08:35 <@wizardpc> okay so that trooper that did the illegal background checks apparently provided expunged records to 2 democrats about a republican candidate for the house.
08:35 <@brimstone> oddball: "The beta code for OpenOffice 3.0 has been released, and it includes Open XML read support"
08:35 <@wizardpc> and then the info was used in a push poll
08:35 <@wizardpc> icanhazjailtiemz?
08:36 <@brimstone> no but you can have proper grammer
08:36 <@oddball> Oh, and one of our branch office actually uses Access
08:37 <@wizardpc> sorry, I spent too much time reading ware
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08:37 < ware> dun blaem it on meh
08:37 <@oddball> And I'm going to wait until 3.0 gets out of Beta before trying it for an office setting.
08:37 < ware> OO is stable enough for production in a small biz
08:37 < ware> especially if they are trying to save money
08:38 < ware> takes some training of the users to save to the correct formats but thats easycakes
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08:39 <@oddball> actually, you can set the default to save as MS office formats.
08:39 < ware> that too
08:40 <@oddball> and yes, the stable release of OO is stable.  I'm just being paranoid about trying to push a beta app into a production setting.
08:40 <@oddball> Oh, and we're paid up with MS for another 3 years, so there's no big rush.
08:44 < ware> yeah id stay with office
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08:50 < m0j0-j0j0> with computers.. it's all 0 or 1... and I know which I am ;)
08:51 < ware> a zero?!
08:51 <@oddball> Assuming I'm still here in 2 years, I'll re-approach OO as an option.
08:52 <@oddball> That or if we start running out of licenses for MS Office... which is likely.
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09:09 < TheLightCosine> gah
09:09 < TheLightCosine> everytime i think i'm close to done, i find another needed input validation
09:09 < ware> yay, lets put the fucking coffee maker where i cant get to it
09:10  * ware is in need of a move
09:10 < ware> TheLightCosine: youre never done
09:10 < TheLightCosine> i totally didn't even think about doing validation on input in the datagrid Edit/Update form
09:12 < TheLightCosine> my boss keeps telling me not tow orry so much, but i don't like having any chance of a user generating a applciation error page
09:13 < TheLightCosine> i want clean breaks
09:15 <@brimstone> and you're a better (wo)man for it
09:16 <@polerin> heh
09:18 < TheLightCosine> it gives me a ehadache thoguh, cus i have no diea how i'm gonig to set up validation on that shite
09:21 <@I-MOD> brimstone, hero?
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09:22 <@nachoguy> in case I didn't post this before:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/11/hadoop_dziuba/
09:24 < TheLightCosine> wow
09:24 < TheLightCosine> this guy is quite frank isn't he?
09:25 < TheLightCosine> he's agressive even for elreg
09:28 <@nachoguy> yeah, but you know what's great?  He accurately describes the ruby developers that we have here
09:28 <@oddball> How to instantly get on my bad side: call me and not identify yourself.  Especially if you ask "ummm... are you the guy that works on the computers?"
09:30 < TheLightCosine> lol
09:30 < TheLightCosine> nachoguy: yeah? i know dick about ruby
09:31 < TheLightCosine> except tht i had to install ruby on rails for something..metasploit i think
09:31 <@Shadow404> oddball: reply with "i dont know, how big is the problem and how much are you willing to pay?"
09:31 < TheLightCosine> or how about "you must be the idiot that breaks them" =P
09:32 <@oddball> heh
09:33  * TheLightCosine wonders if Ted Dzubia isn't really Maddox lol
09:33 < TheLightCosine> that's who he reminds me of in that article
09:33 <@nachoguy> TheLightCosine, we have a phrase around here.  "Ruby scales excramentally"
09:34 <@nachoguy> actually, it's not Ruby that doesn't scale, it's RoR
09:34 < TheLightCosine> thanks nacho, i just did a spittake at my desk
09:35 < TheLightCosine> i suppsoe eventually i will ahve to buckle down and elarn java, but everytime i start the syntax just pisses me off
09:35 < TheLightCosine> it just seems so retarded after perl
09:36 <@nachoguy> meh, when all is said and done, perl always gets the job done
09:36 < TheLightCosine> yep, it may not always be pretty but anything worth being done can be done in perl
09:37 <@nachoguy> it might not be the trendiest omgwtfbbq language (ruby), or the enterprise standard that isn't (java), but it'll always work
09:37 < TheLightCosine> although my experience as of late is that the msot important thing in a programming lanaguge seems to be it's RegEx engine
09:38 < TheLightCosine> up until this silly little webapp i'm doing every porgram i've written in the past 2 years has used regexes in some important way
09:39 <@I-MOD> perl's regex engine needs to be faster :/
09:39 < TheLightCosine> heh
09:39 < TheLightCosine> comapre perl regex to vbs regex though, and WOW lol
09:39 <@Shadow404> heh, woot, wolfenstien 3d on my windows mobile
09:40 < TheLightCosine> Shadow404: nie, i used to have x-com and heroes of mgiht and magic on mine
09:40 < TheLightCosine> er *nice
09:40 <@Shadow404> yeah, gonna install the nes emulator next
09:40 <@nachoguy> I-MOD, faster?  are you doing the regex (I forget the details exactly) that is documented as going to take "long past the heat death of the universe to finish"
09:40 <@Shadow404> gotta wait till i get a memory card for the snes and sega emulator
09:40 < ware> Shadow404: whats the device?
09:40 <@Shadow404> not enoguh speace
09:40 <@Shadow404> ware: the dash
09:42 < ware> oh that looks neat
09:42 < ware> i need a smart phone =/
09:42 < TheLightCosine> example- vbs: Set regEx = New RegExp  regEx.Pattern = "[\f\n\r\v]+"    regEx.Global = True  regEx.Multiline = True
09:42 < ware> think ima just get an ifnoer
09:43 < TheLightCosine> perl= $out=~s/\n\<br>/
09:43 < TheLightCosine> heh
09:43 <@Shadow404> yeah, i wasnted the iphone, but it didnt have quite what i wanted yet, even a jailbroken phone
09:43 <@Shadow404> and the price was also a factor
09:44 < TheLightCosine> Shadow404: you throw putty down on it?
09:44 <@Shadow404> putty sorta works
09:44 < TheLightCosine> hmm putty worked fine on mine, at least basic ssh
09:44 <@Shadow404> i had to tweak it a lot, it still doesnt play nice with irssi
09:44 <@Shadow404> ssh works fine
09:44 <@Shadow404> but not with irssi inside of ssh
09:44 < TheLightCosine> ah heh
09:44 <@Shadow404> it doesnt scroll the text correctly with the status bar
09:45 < TheLightCosine> i was showing off with my old HTC, and sshed into my linux box and opened a config file vi made a few changes and...."I don't have an escape key..."
09:45 < TheLightCosine> lol
09:45 <@Shadow404> nice
09:45 < ware> hehe
09:45 <@Shadow404> should be an optional key via the menu selections
09:46 <@Shadow404> like ctrl-c and stuf
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09:46 <@Shadow404> woot, first level complete, no lag
09:50 <@Shadow404> ware: go ahead
09:51 < ware> workin fine
09:51 <@Shadow404> cool
09:53 <@wizardpc> ware: you lookin for a smartphone? I'll sell you my old HTC Wizard
09:57 <@wizardpc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qtek_9100
09:57 < ware> 5 dorrah?
09:57 < ware> do it work with verizon
09:58 <@wizardpc> no, for verizon you have to buy a phone from verizon
09:58 <@wizardpc> and the Iphone doesnt work with verizon, either
09:58 <@brimstone> you shouldn't have to buy a phone from verizon
09:59 <@brimstone> it just has to be cdma and you'll have to take it to them to get them to register it
09:59 < ware> i have a full plan from work with verizon
09:59 < ware> im trying to get them to get me a blackberry
09:59 < ware> but i dunno why they wont
10:00 <@wizardpc> bc blackberry service is not cheap
10:07 <@nachoguy> yeah, expensive as hell
10:07 <@nachoguy> though for what I'm paying for AT&T service now, switching to an AT&T bb wouldn't be much more a month
10:12 <@wizardpc> I pay $60/month for voice and unlimited data, and I could connect direvtly to our exchange server if I wanted my email to follow me home
10:15 <@oddball> wizardpc: I thought you broke your old 8525
10:16 <@wizardpc> no, I broke my really really old HP 3125
10:16 <@critch> ugghh, this HP estimator is either broken, or I didn't put all my HP down on the track last night. I know the dyno says max HP at 88hp at the wheel, but the estimator puts me at 79HP at the flywheel.
10:18 <@nachoguy> I've got a (really) old plan, so between voice for the wife and I and unlimited data and 1500 txts for me, it's like 130ish
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10:21 <@wizardpc> woohoo d/l a torrent @ 838kBps
10:21 < TheLightCosine> bah
10:21 < TheLightCosine> downlaoding at work?
10:21 <@wizardpc> nope
10:21 < TheLightCosine> what isp you on?
10:21 <@wizardpc> thats comcast
10:21 < TheLightCosine> wtf
10:22 <@wizardpc> oh and I just got THROTTLED
10:22 < TheLightCosine> i can't get over 100kbps on comcast
10:22 <@wizardpc> now im down to 745 on that torrent, but 1024 total
10:23 < TheLightCosine> i want my FIOS back heh
10:23 <@nachoguy> why is your fios gone?
10:23 <@wizardpc> which happened to be what utorrent's max download was at, so I removed that limitation
10:23 < TheLightCosine> cus i moved
10:23 < TheLightCosine> i lived in PA until recently
10:24 <@nachoguy> bah, research bandwidth before moving  =>
10:24 < TheLightCosine> heh
10:24 < TheLightCosine> that's why i want a BT client that can make use of a multi-homed pc, i'lkl set up a box with like 5-6 wireless NICs and leach all my neighbors' bandwidth
10:24 <@polerin> yeah totally
10:25 <@nachoguy> critch did that a ways back, iirc
10:26 < TheLightCosine> i imagine you'd need some kind of software-based multiplexor to do it properly
10:26 <@polerin> he did, and just with linux's routing iirc
10:27 < TheLightCosine> iirc?
10:27 <@polerin> and is it really that important to be able to pull down torrents, that you have to impact your neighbors service for it?  :P
10:27 < TheLightCosine> yes darnit, how else am i going to download entire TV series in a single torrent =p
10:27 <@nachoguy> yeah, you just set up your machine to use multiple routes with iproute2, and fire up bt, every connection you make will get roundrobbined to one of your "default" gateways
10:27 <@critch> what did I do?
10:28 <@nachoguy> "If I Recall Correctly"
10:28 <@polerin> critch: it's all your fault :)
10:28 < TheLightCosine> my downlaod Star Trek TNG has been gonig for over a week
10:28 < TheLightCosine> ah
10:28 <@polerin> TheLightCosine: .. wah.
10:28 < TheLightCosine> hmm
10:29 <@critch> Ahh, now I see what I did. Yes, I used a wireless bridge to hop on a neighbors wireless while using my cablemodem too. Used RR routing to make my BT go fast.
10:29 <@polerin> watching the muslim nations in TKD is interesting
10:29 <@critch> That was some 3 or more years ago
10:29 <@polerin> because the women wear headscarves under the helmet
10:30 <@polerin> and they aren't scoring anything for this poor woman :/
10:31  * TheLightCosine also ponders the difficulties of two or mroe of the leached entworks being configured with the same subnet
10:33 <@polerin> oh nice ... the iranian woman wasn't getting any of her kicks to be recognized by the judges, so she just drove her opponent out of bounds twice.  (two penalties of that nature are a one point reduction)
10:33 <@wizardpc> polerin: I'm surprised they are allowed to participate, and I dont even know what tkd is
10:33 <@wizardpc> oh now I get it
10:33 <@polerin> why are you supprised?
10:34 < TheLightCosine> wizardpc: tae kwan do i believe
10:34 <@polerin> yes, and he got it :P
10:35 <@wizardpc> because the only pictures of women in iran have them in burkas
10:35 <@polerin> oh, the women, not iran in general.
10:35 <@wizardpc> yes the women
10:35 <@polerin> and yes, I sorta thought the same thing, but without the burkas :P
10:35 <@wizardpc> let me expand and clarify my remarks:
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10:36 <@wizardpc> I am surprised that Iran allowed any women from their country to compete in the Olympics at all
10:36 <@rhia> the religious leaders can make allowances
10:36 <@wizardpc> much less the olympic sport of ass-kicking
10:36 <@polerin> lol
10:37 <@polerin> she actually wasn't bad..  I think she had a fair number of kicks that should have scored, even given the weird scoring rules for the olympics
10:37 <@polerin> lost in OT
10:37 <@rhia> Iran is not nearly as backassward as BushCo and the media lapdogs portray them .... tho, still wouldn't want to move there
10:37 <@polerin> yeah no kidding
10:38 <@polerin> actually the funny thing is that the Iranians have fewer problems with transpeople, so long as they live in the proper gender role once transitioned. (at least MtF, unsure of FtM)
10:38 <@wizardpc> "there are no gays in Iran"--president mahmood
10:38 <@polerin> hehe
10:38 <@polerin> yeah I know.
10:39 <@polerin> they can be trans, just not gay ;P
10:41 < TheLightCosine> lol
10:42 < TheLightCosine> there are no gays in iran cus they throw em in prison camps when they find them
10:42 <@wizardpc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran
10:42 < TheLightCosine> wizardpc proves that there is a wiki article for everything lol
10:42 <@wizardpc> That paints a picture of "yes, we have transgenders, but if you are one you better damn well get the surgery, and get it right now"
10:43 <@wizardpc> "and you probably shouldnt talk about it"
10:43 <@polerin> you realize that's basicly the state of affairs in the US right?
10:44 <@polerin> that I'm one of the few who doesn't go stealth?
10:44 <@wizardpc> sorry, didnt realize you were being beaten daily and threatened with death by the .gov
10:44 <@polerin> not to mention that in the US, most states will not change your birth certificate
10:44 <@wizardpc> my mistake
10:45 <@polerin> I'm not, but you don't have to look far to see victims of hate crimes.  Except.. the FBI doesn't even track crimes against trans people
10:46 < TheLightCosine> polerin: i'm sure that the mentality ehre in the us towards that is the same as the rpevailing snetiment about homosexuality
10:46 <@polerin> the hell it is :)
10:46 < TheLightCosine> that it's a disease we will one day find a miracle cure
10:47 <@polerin> trans is way WAY less known and understood among the general population
10:47 < TheLightCosine> I mean i'm not gay, and i can't pretend I really understand it. but it disgusts me the way people talk about it like gay people are sick and one day we'll figure out how to cure them
10:48 < TheLightCosine> well i don't mean in terms of degree so much as general attitude
10:49 <@polerin> :P
10:50 < TheLightCosine> isn't it kind of like saying "i don't udnerstand what it's like to be Black...it must be a disease"
10:51 <@polerin> That is one of the Nicer ways that transsexuality is looked at in the us.  "Trans Panic" defenses are still used in many murder case, and it genrally works to reduce from a more serious charge of first or second degree murder to manslaughter
10:51 < TheLightCosine> heh
10:51 < TheLightCosine> "but judge I killed him because I hate him!" "ohhhhhhhh, well okay then, you can go"
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10:52 <@wizardpc> I think polerin is referring to cases where preops are dating, and the partner finds out in a not so great way
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10:52 <@polerin> wizardpc: not just pre-ops
10:52 <@oddball> it's fun when screen locks up
10:53 <@rhia> the Cootie Defense:  "I killed 'em so I wouldn't catch their identity cooties!!"
10:53 <@polerin> and yes, that's not the best way to find out, but it's not the only way it happens.
10:53 <@polerin> and I'm sorry.. .does that make it any more right to kill them?
10:53 <@wizardpc> um no
10:54 <@wizardpc> but the people who do the killing are probably not stable to begin with
10:55 <@wizardpc> and then they get hit with a shock like that and it's coucou for cocopuffs time
10:55 <@polerin> it's not the people who do the killing that I find at fault for the trans panic.  it's the people on the jury
10:56 <@wizardpc> ah
10:56 <@rhia> which reflects on the attitude of the general public
10:56 <@wizardpc> you ever sat on a jury? dem people is crazy
10:56 <@polerin> yes, I have
10:56 <@polerin> and I stuck to the letter of the law.
10:56 <@wizardpc> me too and it hurt like a motha
10:57 <@rhia> in some areas, gays and trans are still "more acceptable" deaths, them being deviant and sinful and all
10:57 <@wizardpc> I *knew* the guy was guilty, but the evidence was so weak I couldnt allow myself to let the .gov convict someone on coincidence
10:58 <@polerin> it was a shaken baby case.. and other than myself and the jury foreman, the rest  of the jury wanted to convict both of them...   even though the prosicution (gods I can't spell) couldn't prove that anything defnitively happend (I think it's likely something did) and couldn't even make an inroads into saying which of the parents might have done it.
10:58 <@polerin> and yeah
11:03 <@wizardpc> oh fucking great, just what I need: http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080820/NEWS02/80820061
11:03 <@wizardpc> ~minilink
11:03 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/tennessean.com/rf9Yf
11:04 <@wizardpc> electricity rates are going up 20%
11:04 <@wizardpc> twenty fucking percent
11:04 < TheLightCosine> er what was the point of the minilink lol?
11:05 <@polerin> yay windpower!  ;P
11:05  * polerin seriously wants to go off grid
11:05 <@critch> TheLightCosine: it is shorter without obfuscating where you are going. it also plays nicer with auto selection.
11:06 < TheLightCosine> i jsut double-clciked the first link heh
11:07 < TheLightCosine> so is there a list somewhere of things that bot does?
11:07 < tdc_vga> damn 20%
11:07 < TheLightCosine> seems like somebody did a pretty awesome job on it
11:07 <@critch> yeah, my auto highlight stops at the =, that kind of screws up the copy.
11:07 <@polerin> not everyone can double click on it hon :)
11:08 < TheLightCosine> ahh cli clients
11:08 < TheLightCosine> yes yes
11:08 < TheLightCosine> heh
11:09  * TheLightCosine is lazy and uses gui clients like mirc, xchat, and this silly web thing i'm on now
11:09 <@critch> polerin: I don't know why when I read yours I flashed to "The Internet is for Porn"
11:09 < TheLightCosine> so who actually wrote that bot?
11:09 <@critch> MxZBot is run by MaxieZ
11:09 <+MxZBot> critch: no idea
11:09 < TheLightCosine> oh nm
11:10 < TheLightCosine> MxZBot http://maxiez.com/l/tennessean.com/rf9Yf
11:10 <+MxZBot> wish i knew, TheLightCosine
11:10 < TheLightCosine> duh =P
11:10 <@polerin> critch: read my what?
11:11 <+MaxieZ> ~MaxieZ
11:11 <+MxZBot> you are the guy that touches me in the naughty place.
11:11 <@critch> your line, 11:07 <@polerin> not everyone can double click on it hon :)
11:11 <@polerin> yeah, that's ... odd.  has nothing to do with porn or that song
11:11 <@polerin> hehe
11:11 <+MaxieZ> I suppose that refers to me changing him through the backend
11:12 <@critch> polerin: sorry if this offends, but I read that and immediately I head in my head, grab your dick and double click for porn porn porn.
11:12 <@polerin> oh
11:12  * polerin headdesks
11:12 <@polerin> well, we always knew you had a dirty mind XD
11:13 < tdc_vga> should be seeing the Obama VP pick today... hmm
11:13 <@critch> seems it is returning after going on hiatus while I chased this one woman.
11:13 < TheLightCosine> Maxiez: how many different things does that bot actually do?
11:13 < TheLightCosine> ~TheLightCosine
11:13 <+MxZBot> you are correct
11:13 < TheLightCosine> heh, hmm okay
11:13 <@critch> ~critch
11:13 <+MxZBot> you are a caveman
11:14 <@critch> hmm, that should probably get updated.
11:14 < ware> ~ware
11:14 <+MxZBot> you are the poster child for birth control
11:14 < TheLightCosine> roflmao!
11:14 < ware> ~mxzbot
11:14 <+MxZBot> mxzbot is your bitch
11:14 < ware> ~dolemite
11:14 <+MxZBot> dolemite is the dictator!
11:14 < ware> ~skydog
11:14 < ware> ~skydog
11:14 < ware> 11:14 <MxZBot> overflow of messages (3 > 2)
11:14 < ware> 11:14 <MxZBot> Someone already said that 7 seconds ago
11:14 < ware> rofl
11:15 < ware> tools: you guys use an alternative to pwdump6
11:16 <@brimstone> back in my day, there was only pwdump3e
11:16 <@critch> yeah, me as caveman doesn't fit with the new look. http://www.basesys.com/~critch/lick.jpg
11:17 <+MaxieZ> TheLightCosine: ask MxZBot
11:17 <+MaxieZ> just say help
11:17 <+MaxieZ> Not in the channel though
11:17 < ware> MaxieZ: is she opensource?
11:17 < ware> aka would you share
11:17 <+MaxieZ> Yeah...it's just blootbot with patches
11:18 < ware> oh cool
11:18 <@polerin> OH WOW
11:18 <@polerin> holy shit you shaved your head
11:19 <@polerin> and trimmed
11:19 <@polerin> O_O
11:19 <@critch> yeah.
11:19 <@critch> I didn't tell anyone and showed up to wizardpc's wedding clean shaven
11:19 <@critch> had many people shocked.
11:19 < ware> rofl
11:20 < ware> that was ishfw
11:20 <@critch> ishfw?
11:20 < ware> ish for work
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11:24 <@critch> well, I don't usually have pics of me. I did request those from the owner of the camera though. Oddly enough, it was the boyfriend of the chick whose boob was in my mouth.
11:24  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
11:25 <@critch> I sometimes wonder about that relationship. He doesn't seem to get bent out of shape with some of the liberties I have taken with her.
11:26 < tdc_vga> anyone here work with Asterix?
11:26 < tdc_vga> the PBX ppl.
11:26 <@critch> yes
11:26 <@brimstone> asterix sux, use freeswitch
11:26 < ware> hahaha
11:27 < tdc_vga> critch: you might have met my roommate at the airport... tall guy, wears clark kent raybands, heh
11:27 < tdc_vga> we were talking about PhreakNic and he said he met some organizer at the airport, heh
11:27 <@critch> doubt it
11:27 < ware> that was me
11:27 < ware> your roomie is a homo
11:28 < tdc_vga> hmm he met something... Tilman or something...
11:28 < ware> Tilghman
11:28 <@brimstone> ware: wrong one in that group
11:28 < ware> is Corydon76-dig
11:28 < tdc_vga> that'll do it, heh
11:28 <@critch> I never have been a phreaknic organizer
11:28 < tdc_vga> ahhh...
11:28 < ware> hes the asstricks gooroo
11:28 < ware> and was going on vacation
11:28 < tdc_vga> good ol' asstricks
11:28 < ware>  / is on
11:28 < ware> but thats irrelevant
11:28 < ware> cause i wanna know WHO THE FUCK BROKE MAH NTPCLIENT
11:29 <@brimstone> #asstricks
11:29 < ware> warning, much faggotry
11:29 <@aestetix> You should check out freaknik
11:29 < ware> i believe he is giving a talk
11:30 < TheLightCosine> MaxieZ: how does it associate the phrase to a given nick?
11:31 <+MaxieZ> It's all stored in a DB
11:32 < TheLightCosine> so did somebody teach it to say each thing though?
11:32 <+MaxieZ> It actually learns all kinds of shit
11:32 < TheLightCosine> why does it say "you are correct" for me, or is that a default?
11:32 <+MaxieZ> Cause someone probably said: TheLightCosine is correct
11:33 <+MaxieZ> and it learned that you == correct
11:33 <+MaxieZ> ~linux
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11:33 <+MxZBot> linux is limited by the kernel revision, and reiserfs can handle 16tb, so the partition size must be larger than that
11:33 <+MaxieZ> See certainly not a classical definition
11:33 <+MaxieZ> but something someone said and it learned
11:33 <+MaxieZ> ~shell code
11:33 <+MxZBot> MaxieZ: Can you run that by me again?
11:33 <+MaxieZ> Shame on you all
11:34 <+MaxieZ> ~exploit
11:34 <+MxZBot> exploit is targeting a previously unpublished vulnerability.
11:34 <@wizardpc> ~memphis
11:34 <+MxZBot> memphis is the largest city in Mississippi
11:34 <@wizardpc> still my favorite
11:34 < TheLightCosine> gwar and i can't overwrite it
11:34 <+MaxieZ> It gets solidified after a while
11:34 <@wizardpc> MxZBot: forget TheLightCosine
11:34 <@wizardpc> well that used to work
11:35 <@wizardpc> but now it is "protected by time" or somesuch nonsense
11:35 <@unixfa1> lol, nice
11:35 < TheLightCosine> yeah
11:35 <+MaxieZ> Right...which means...when something hasn't changed over X amount of time it gets stuck and only I can remove it Mwahaha
11:36 < ware> time.windows.com,0x1
11:36 < TheLightCosine> well i guess mine uis alot better than ware's =p
11:36 < ware> mines bigger
11:36  * ware shroom prints TheLightCosine 
11:36 <+MaxieZ> It know 6786 things
11:36 <+MaxieZ> In that way anyways
11:36 <@polerin> ~polerin
11:36 <@polerin> heh
11:36 <+MxZBot> you are not well formed!
11:37 <@polerin> ~polerin is not right in the head.
11:37 <+MxZBot> ...but polerin is already something else...
11:37 <@polerin> aww
11:37 <@polerin> oh, it was lag
11:37 < ware> ~polerin
11:37 <+MxZBot> polerin is not well formed!
11:37 <+MaxieZ> Not my fault :)
11:37 < ware> LAWLSZ
11:37 <@polerin> :P
11:37 < ware> polerin is a dude with boobs and makeup
11:38 <+MaxieZ> TheLightCosine: You are free to play
11:38 < TheLightCosine> ?
11:38 <+MaxieZ> It doesn't know you anymore
11:38 < TheLightCosine> ah heh
11:39 < ware> MxZBot: TheLightCosine is a noob
11:39 <+MxZBot> ...but thelightcosine is already something else...
11:39 <@wizardpc> ~ TheLightCosine
11:39 < TheLightCosine> hah
11:39 <+MxZBot> thelightcosine is t3h r0x0r!
11:39  * ware throws his hands up in the air
11:39 < TheLightCosine> saw you coming a mile away ware
11:39 < ware> :P
11:39 < ware> again, cause its so big
11:39 < TheLightCosine> my first thoguht was "shit must...beat...ware"
11:39 <+MaxieZ> MxZBot: No, TheLightCosine is a noob
11:39 <+MxZBot> okay, MaxieZ
11:40 < TheLightCosine> gah!
11:40 <@polerin> muahah PWNT
11:40 <@wizardpc> lets say I'm driving through crossville, TN
11:40 < TheLightCosine> blast you MaxieZ
11:40 <@wizardpc> Lets say I get pulled over
11:40 <+MaxieZ> ~TheLightCosine
11:40 <+MxZBot> thelightcosine is a noob
11:40 <@wizardpc> Lets say I have $280,000 in cash in the floorboards
11:40 <+MaxieZ> You can change it TheLightCosine.  Just pointing out that....data is flexable.
11:40 <+MaxieZ> flexible
11:41 <@wizardpc> What have I done that will get my cash taekn, but me not arrested?
11:41 < TheLightCosine> pretty well made box
11:41 < TheLightCosine> bot
11:41 <+MaxieZ> Not really...Just hacked together really
11:41 <+MaxieZ> At least on my part
11:41 < TheLightCosine> i remember screwing around with bots way back, but i was really only itnerested in writing my scripts for the old star wars rpg
11:42 <+MaxieZ> wizardpc: Your premise has way too many flaws
11:43 < TheLightCosine> heh
11:43 <@wizardpc> orly?
11:43 <@wizardpc> http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080820/NEWS03/80820024/0/NEWS02
11:44 <@wizardpc> ~minilink
11:44 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/tennessean.com/JsYpB
11:44 <+MaxieZ> Well for starters...I don't even know where crossvile, TN is.
11:44 <+MaxieZ> Then 280,000 bucks on the floor?  Not likely
11:44 < TheLightCosine> he
11:44 <+MaxieZ> and the 280,000 goes where?
11:45 <+MaxieZ> I'm sure to feed the starving children of Crossvile
11:46 < tdc_vga> weird... why would he just surrender it?
11:46 < tdc_vga> "no charges are expected"  it's not illegal to have money, heh
11:46 <+MaxieZ> Cause it wasn't his...and if it is....
11:46 < TheLightCosine> "oh my, where did this quarter-million dollars come from?"
11:46 < TheLightCosine> lol
11:46 < ware> jesus
11:46 < ware> im in the wrong business
11:47 < tdc_vga> i watched a federal judge, one time, tell the prosecution "what is it with you all always harping about people having money in paper bags or freezers? you do know that it's not illegal to have money not in a bank, don't you? now, don't mention another word about it unless there is something of use in your statement."
11:47 < tdc_vga> hahahaha
11:47 <@critch> tdc_vga: yeah, it isn't illegal to have moeny if you give it to the cops.
11:47 <@polerin> lol
11:47 <@polerin> tdc_vga: that's hilarious
11:48 <@wizardpc> I remember watching COPS in college, and in the same episode some cops say "well, he has large bills, so that means he's been dealing"
11:49 <@wizardpc> and then "well, he has small bills, so that means he's been dealing"
11:49 <@wizardpc> double you tea eff
11:50 < tdc_vga> polerin: yeah i think i laughed and had to hold my mouth... judge just smiled at me, heh
11:51 < TheLightCosine> wizardpc: are you sure what they meant wasn't "well he's black so he must be dealing?"
11:51 < TheLightCosine> or "well he's hispanic so he must be dealing"
11:51 < someninjamaster> if your have more than 2 grand on your person in large or small bills they say your dealing
11:52 < TheLightCosine> heh
11:52 < TheLightCosine> if you have more than 2large on your person you better be carrying is all i'm saying
11:52 <@I-MOD> so if you have 4K+, then you're double dealing?
11:52 <@wizardpc> TheLightCosine: he would be. me too
11:54 < TheLightCosine> that's like the one day at the bank abck at earthlink, i went o cash my paycheck, i asked them to cash out 400 and deposit the rest. they deposited 400 and cashed the rest I told the girl "If i planned on walking out of ehre with that much cash i would be carrying mroe than a knife"
11:54 < TheLightCosine> which i immediately realised was a dumb thing to say to a bank teller
11:54 < TheLightCosine> "Hey by the way I have a weapon, and you're here all alone"
11:54 < ware> ROFL
11:55 < someninjamaster> well m off for a ride
11:58 < TheLightCosine> well it's about quitting time
11:58 <@I-MOD> TheLightCosine, how did that work out :D
11:59 < TheLightCosine> I-MOD: i realised my msitake from the look of terror on the girl's face about a half second after i said it
11:59 < TheLightCosine> i really thoguht for a moment she was going to hit the panic button
11:59 < TheLightCosine> and that would have been a retarded thing to get in trouble for
12:00 <@I-MOD> lol
12:00 < TheLightCosine> anyways catchya guys later when i get home heh
12:00 <@I-MOD> later
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12:26 <@aestetix> vagina
12:51 <@Dagmar> I don't think a cop would have batted an eye about him saying that to a teller, personally.
12:52 <@Dagmar> There's nothing wrong or illegal about letting someone know you are carrying a weapon for defense, so long as it's legal to carry in your juridiction.
12:52 <@Dagmar> ...and at least it wasn't a complete non-sequitir.
12:53 <@Dagmar> Walking up to someone on the street and saying "Hi there!  Did you know I've got a four inch knife in my pocket?" will probably get you into trouble.
12:54 <@Dagmar> It's up there with "...I've got some kids in my basement" and so forth.
12:57 <@oddball> wizardpc: you mean there were copsmaking up bullshit reasons why they thought someone was dealing drugs?  shock!
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13:00 < kotrin> 'erro
13:01 <@Dementia> Ok, does a !@#$ auto repair shop ever tell you when you need new pads and rotors when you *actually* need them?
13:01 < someninjamaster> no
13:01 <@Dementia> That's kinda what I figured.
13:01 <@Dagmar> This is why you learn to eyeball the things yourself.
13:01 <@oddball> not unless you actually ask them to check.
13:01 <@Dagmar> Oh, and it doesn't help that you're a girl.
13:02 <@Dementia> oh this time it wasn't me
13:02 <@Dagmar> By the way, rotors and pads aren't something you have to replace at the same time.
13:02 <@Dementia> Yeah, I know.
13:03 <@Dementia> Every shop I know if you walk in there and smell like you don't know how to work on cars, they tell you to replace your pads and rotors.
13:03 <@Dementia> Every fuckin time.
13:03 < ware> so.. learn it?
13:04 <@Dementia> Well, I know now. It just gets old hearing it.
13:05 <@Dementia> </rant>
13:06 <@Dagmar> Bummer
13:06 <@oddball> Yeah, that's when I knew I should stick with the mechanic I go to.  Took my car in for a tune-up and general check over, and they told me "well, your front pads look pretty new, but the rears look about 80% worn.  You don't need them replaced today, but you should think about it in the next few months.
13:06 <@oddball> "
13:06 <@Dagmar> CNN just aired a bit about some congresslady who fell over from an aneurysm last night in session
13:06 <@Dagmar> ...but we don't get to see her fall over.
13:07 <@I-MOD> oddball, sounds like a pretty damn good mechanic :D
13:09 <@oddball> Yeah, he's also taken care of problems he's missed on the house a couple times. (hey, when you have a 20 year old car, and a 10 year old car, you get to know your mechanic)
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13:29 < ^dave^> gack
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13:32 < TheLightCosine> wow the activity kind of died in here
13:33 < ware_> wuz me
13:33 < ware_> phear
13:34 < ware_> i need a nap
13:34 < TheLightCosine> two wares oh nos!
13:34 < ware_> giant burger + tall amberboch = win
13:34 < TheLightCosine> hmm a five guys burger sounds good right now
13:34 < ware_> 5 guys in your mouth?
13:35 < ware> win
13:35 <@Dagmar> It isn't just ware wondering about that one
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13:35 <@Dagmar> Capitalization is important stuff.
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13:36 < ware> woops
13:36 < ware> fuck piss shit dammit
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13:38 < TheLightCosine> netsplit?
13:38 <@juice> hi
13:38 < ware> vhost change
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13:39 < ware> i=w@a.nun.doesnt.even.need.a.c1itor.us
13:39 < ware> hehehe
13:39  * TheLightCosine points at the returners
13:39 <@critch> http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/07/changeover.php
13:39 < TheLightCosine> they netsplit right after you dumped
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13:40 < TheLightCosine> hahaha
13:40 < ware> :)
13:44 < TheLightCosine> critch: i think i've seen that movie ;)
13:44 <@Shadow404> heh, so i just learned something funky that bind9 does
13:44 < ware> bind9 does DNS?
13:44 < ware> WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!
13:44  * wizardpc returns from a phone interview
13:44  * TheLightCosine kicks ware in the nuts
13:44 <@Shadow404> apparently when you set a ptr record to resolve to domain with the first word being unassigned
13:45 <@wizardpc> well im not sure how that went
13:45 < TheLightCosine> plkease continue shadow =P
13:45 <@Shadow404> it wont resolve worth shit
13:45 <@Shadow404> change it to something else, works perfectly
13:46 < ware> no
13:47 <@Neoteric> anyone remember how I make mysql dump stuff to screen w/o the formatting?
13:49 < ware> 42
13:51 < TheLightCosine> Neoteric: write a script?
13:51 < TheLightCosine> *shrug*
13:52 <@Shadow404> ah ffs, now this customer wants me to reverse the changes that took my 20 mins to configure cause he had an oversight on his side
13:52 < ware> over slight super site
13:52 < ware> every night inside tight
13:52 < ware> blight flight kite white
13:52 < ware> right might and miller lite
13:52 <@Shadow404> ill just rename the file to .temp incase he wants to put it back, as i know he will
13:52 <@Shadow404> ware: you high boy!
13:53 < TheLightCosine> heh
13:53 <@Shadow404> ?
13:53 < ware> YOU DRUNK
13:53 < TheLightCosine> is ware always like this?
13:53 <@Shadow404> i wish i was right now
13:53 <@wizardpc> yes
13:53 <@Shadow404> YES
13:53 < TheLightCosine> i guess i never noticed before
13:53  * TheLightCosine hands ware some aderol
13:53 < ware> ppl at work are fucking stupid
13:53 < ware> just pissin me off
13:53 < ware> im tired and want a fucking nap
13:54 < ware> aderoll makes me go crazy
13:54 < ware> why the fuck would i want that
13:54 < TheLightCosine> aderol is suposed to make you less crazy
13:54 < TheLightCosine> heh
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13:55 < TheLightCosine> hmm why can't i keep a stable telnet connection to the server i wonder
13:55 < ware> not when you snort 2 8hr release ones
13:55 < ware> err 4hr
13:56 < ware> TELNET WTF SON
13:56 < ware> why arent you using ssh
13:56 <@Dagmar> Agreed.
13:56 < ware> do your hamsters not run fast enough?
13:56 < TheLightCosine> *shrug* was just esperimenting
13:56 < ware> no. youre not allowed to do that here.
13:56  * TheLightCosine pops open putty
13:56 < ware> you switch to ssh and then come back
13:57 < TheLightCosine> hmm ssh doesn't work at all for some reason
13:58 < ware> sounds like you need more cream cheese
13:58 < TheLightCosine> hmm i get to the no identd response line and it drops
14:01 <@Shadow404> OH kickass, i get to update the dns for one of my favorite animal cruelty prevention sites
14:01 <@Shadow404> hint, you see their ad on tv all the time
14:02 < TheLightCosine> ASPCA?
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14:03 <@Shadow404> ....maybe
14:03 < TheLightCosine> *sigh* have to feed the monst...er child
14:16 <@wizardpc> ooo i know: Beef Cattle Growers association!
14:16 <@wizardpc> eef. It's whats for dinner
14:16 <@wizardpc> er beeg
14:16 <@wizardpc> dammit
14:16 <@wizardpc> should not drink at lunch. beef
14:20 <@Shadow404> mmm, i can do with a big steak right now
14:20 <@Shadow404> i heard ware like the big greasy sausage
14:21 <@rhia> http://www.pegasusnews.com/events/ongoing/39376/   SFW, unless skipped lunch
14:21 <@Dagmar> holy shit that looks tasty
14:22 <@Shadow404> mmm, still hungry
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14:27 <@Catonic> Shadow404: eat a cheeseburger.
14:30 <@Shadow404> mmm
14:30 <@aestetix> Ok.
14:30 <@Shadow404> ok Catonic
14:30 <@aestetix> Let's say you have a chick who is giving a talk.
14:30 <@aestetix> She's a crappy speaker, but she's hot.
14:30 <@Shadow404> so where is a good place to buy rg8x?
14:30 <@aestetix> Does that make up for it?
14:31 <@Catonic> no, not really.
14:31 <@Shadow404> thats like a pair of boobs talking about shoes
14:31 <@Catonic> but to the vast majority of geeks, it'll pass.
14:31 <@aestetix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZDybXl212Q&feature=related
14:31 <@Shadow404> pretty to watch, but boring to listen too
14:31 <@aestetix> This is a perfect example.
14:31 <@aestetix> The lecture makes no sense.
14:31 <@aestetix> But you get to see her boobs wobble around.
14:31 <@Shadow404> good eyecandy
14:31 <@I-MOD> and a wardrobe malfunction if you're lucky
14:32  * Shadow404 goes to corner and rubs one out
14:33 <@aestetix> But yeah.
14:33 <@aestetix> This lecture is horrible. But I'm willing to completely forgive it, and also pass it around.
14:34 <@critch> heh, when you said you get to watch boobs wobble around, I thought it was going to be like naked news.
14:34 <@aestetix> Sweet! She has a slide that looks like boobs!
14:34 <@Catonic> nerdchick!
14:35  * Shadow404 jizzes on her face
14:35 < kotrin> yum
14:35 <@aestetix> She is like.
14:35 <@Catonic> aestetix: you might need to go out and get yourself laid, boy.
14:35 <@aestetix> Ridiculously hot.
14:36 <@Shadow404> yeah, you need to get laid
14:36 <@Shadow404> firstly get a shower though
14:36 <@aestetix> what!
14:36 <@Shadow404> shes cute, ill give her that
14:36 <@aestetix> You're the ones who are jizzing in her face.
14:36 <@Shadow404> but not hot in my book
14:36 <@aestetix> Um.
14:36 <@Shadow404> aestetix: i jizz over any girl thats cute
14:36 <@aestetix> Her geekiness gives her a +5 hot factor.
14:36 <@Catonic> I think she's about a 7 or an 8. If she had makeup on, maybe a 9.
14:36 <@aestetix> over anything else.
14:36 <@Shadow404> sigh, 5 out of 10 maybe
14:36 <@aestetix> Catonic: yes, but she is talking about cluster algorithms.
14:37 <@Shadow404> almost 6 since shes a google chick
14:37 <@aestetix> She should be a booble chick
14:37 <@Catonic> irregardless, she works for google, so you know she's a smart cookie...
14:37 <@Catonic> she can do differential equations while slobbering all over your knob.
14:37 <@aestetix> I bet she's surrrounded by hopelessly inept geek guys who don't know how to talk to women.
14:38 <@Catonic> friend of mine was talking about going CS for a bit... I told her she'd never have to work a day again, but still get a paycheck.
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14:39 <@Catonic> women in IT == minority, minority status == damn near impossible to fire.
14:39 <@aestetix> That's because you can't fire someone who's already flaming hot
14:39 <@aestetix> (too easy)
14:41 <@timoguin> so I'm taking some CIS classes this semester.
14:41 <@timoguin> went to see about testing out of CIS 170.
14:41 <@timoguin> she gave me a study guide.
14:41 <@timoguin> WORD - Fonts, Select text, paragraphs...
14:42 <@Dagmar> It has color pictures of floppy disks in it doesn' it
14:42 <@timoguin> I will have to review the whole MS Access part though.
14:42 <@timoguin> because, you know, my db experience includes real databases.
14:43 <@Dagmar> I'm not going to ask what school has MS Access in their curriculum
14:43 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking it's probably one of the community colleges.
14:43 <@timoguin> WINDOWS/INTERNET - Find Web site from URL, Find URL of Web page, Create a new folder...
14:43 <@timoguin> it's Cumberland University in lebanon.
14:43 <@Dagmar> Ah
14:44 <@Dagmar> So I guess you can't answer that one with "I invented Rule 34."
14:44 <@timoguin> and it seems to just be the entire MS Office suite for this class.
14:45 <@timoguin> I had that stage where I was really burned out with computers and didn't want to do anything with them as a profession.
14:45 <@timoguin> and now i'm starting my 4th year and am starting to change my mind.
14:46 <@Catonic> hobbies turn into careers...
14:47 <@aestetix> Wow.
14:47 <@Neoteric> Catonic: hey can you deal w/ keynote files?
14:47 <@aestetix> That's really funny.
14:47 <@aestetix> re: access
14:47 <@Catonic> Neoteric: Once you go mac, you don't go back.
14:47 <@Neoteric> true... but do you have a mac?
14:47 <@Dagmar> It's like trepanation in thet respect.
14:47 <@aestetix> I will probably need a mac soon
14:47 <@aestetix> So we can test our software port to mac
14:47 <@Dagmar> ...or a hemispherectomy.
14:47 <@Neoteric> cause I can give you my keynote file from the last phreaknic and you can just copy shit out there.
14:47 <@Catonic> You don't remember who loaned you a white DVI to VGA cable, right before you own3d me a few cons ago?
14:48 <@Neoteric> I right now can cause I said fuck the mac
14:48 <@aestetix> GOD
14:48 <@aestetix> THIS GIRL IS SO ANNOYING
14:48 <@Catonic> Neoteric: yes, I haz a mac.
14:48 <@aestetix> Why does she raise her voice like THIS? at the end of everything she says
14:48 <@Neoteric> hrm...
14:48 <@Catonic> aestetix: now you understand what the channel thinks of your persona here.
14:49 <@Catonic> aestetix: I'd be thinking she's annoying for other reasons... Like... her lips are moving and they aren't around my cock.
14:50 <@aestetix> ok like
14:50 <@aestetix> the dude giving the other talks in this series
14:50 <@aestetix> the only reason I'm pausing is so I can soak in all the stuff he's tlaking about
14:50 <@aestetix> for her, it's so I can mute the volume but stil look at her tits
14:54 <+MaxieZ> Am I missing something?  Like does another chick replace her in a few minutes?
14:56 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: he thinks the chicks from Sexy Hacking are too ugly.
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14:57 < nated0g> hey old gang
14:58 <@aestetix> nated0ng: what's up?
14:58 < nated0g> nothing, has everyone been for the past 2 years ?
14:58 <+MaxieZ> Oh yeah...real dogs
14:59 <@aestetix> MaxieZ: the first couple minutes of the lecture are horrible
14:59 <+MaxieZ> ah ok
15:00 <@aestetix> It might just seem bad because the guy who gave the first three lectures is really good.
15:01 <@Evilpig> holy shit nated0g lives
15:02 < nated0g> im still around
15:02 <@Evilpig> around or roung?
15:02 <@Evilpig> round*
15:02 < nated0g> talked to ryan and he mentioned PN
15:02 < nated0g> said i hadnt been on in years
15:02 < nated0g> both
15:03 <+MaxieZ> ~seen nated0g
15:03 <+MxZBot> MaxieZ: i haven't seen 'nated0'
15:03 <+MaxieZ> damnit
15:03 <@Evilpig> the bot never works for seen
15:03 <+MaxieZ> I need to fix0r him
15:03 < nated0g> its been several years
15:03 <+MaxieZ> He had a bug
15:03 < nated0g> you still up in murray Evilpig?
15:03 <+MaxieZ> ~seen MaxieZ
15:03 <+MxZBot> maxiez is currently on #se2600 (4h 43m 38s).  Has said a total of 43 messages.  Is idling for 0s  Last seen saying: '~seen MaxieZ'
15:04 <+MaxieZ> ~seen Evilpig
15:04 <+MxZBot> MaxieZ: i haven't seen 'evilpi'
15:04 <@Evilpig> ~seen Evilpigg
15:04 <+MxZBot> Evilpig: i haven't seen 'evilpi'
15:04 <@Evilpig> retarded bot
15:04 <@Dagmar> gbee: what's the matter.... You don't want to see people loading up 4Gb of cover art into cache?>
15:04 <@Dagmar> wrong chan
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15:09 <+MaxieZ> ~seen evilpig
15:09 <+MxZBot> i haven't seen 'evilpi', MaxieZ
15:09 <@aestetix> man
15:10 < nated0g> so what has changed in the se2600 community?
15:10 <@aestetix> The moldy pizza box always has to fall on the side so that it falls all over the floor.
15:10 <@Catonic> aestetix: clean up your place dude...
15:10 <@ShadowHntr> brb
15:10 <@aestetix> nated0g: Dolemite resigned from se2600 and a new kid called ware has become the president.
15:10 <@Catonic> hire a maid service to take care of that shower.
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15:10 <@Catonic> and buy more than one towel.
15:10 <@Evilpig> in ware's dreams
15:11 < nated0g> he still around or is he gone?
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15:11 <@Evilpig> who the hell is ^dave^ ?
15:11 <@Evilpig> logging in as root no less
15:12 < tdc_vga> good ol' root-^dave^
15:12 <@poiupoiu> nated0g, sorry - ware's still around. lately, he's been seen throwing chairs offa buildings
15:13 < nated0g> how about bubbles in the fountain?
15:13 <@Catonic> ah, the bubbles in the fountain...
15:13 < ware> :)
15:13 <@dc0de> bubbles?
15:13 <@Catonic> In recent years, people have learned that soap goes on the body, not in the fountain.
15:13 <@Evilpig> dc0de: the girl in the harness
15:13 <@dc0de> ahh.
15:14 <@Evilpig> soap does not go on the body
15:14 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL
15:14 <@Catonic> last year they got smart and drained it before the con
15:14 <@ShadowHntr> didn't fill it with champagne?
15:14 <@ShadowHntr> wait
15:14 <@ShadowHntr> it's phreaknic
15:14 <@ShadowHntr> not the playboy mansion
15:14 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
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15:15 < ware> aestetix: ill be president of nash2600 eventually
15:15 < ware> just wait
15:15 < ware> it has been fortold in the book of Ware
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15:15 <@Catonic> if you mix soy protien with animal protien, what happens?
15:16 <@Evilpig> on the same page as apes will rule the world and the bot will actually work?
15:16 <@critch> ShadowHntr: does that mean we need to plan a trip to century city and suds their fointain on elmhill?
15:16 <@ShadowHntr> critch: don't see why not
15:17 < tdc_vga> hahah did someone soap phreaknic last year?
15:17 < nated0g> Evilpig, you still record all the talks?
15:17 <@critch> Granted I don't go by there much anymore, but it has been quite a while since I last saw that fountain sudsed over.
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15:17 <+MaxieZ> ~seen Evilpig
15:17 <+MxZBot> i haven't seen 'evilpig', MaxieZ
15:17 <+MaxieZ> MxZBot: fuck you
15:17 <+MxZBot> fuck you is psyiode's way of saying he loves you
15:18 < tdc_vga> MxZBot: hello
15:18 <+MxZBot> what's up, tdc_vga
15:18 < tdc_vga> MxZBot: nada mucho, y tu?
15:18 <+MxZBot> tdc_vga: I don't know, could you explain it?
15:18 < tdc_vga> MxZBot: no
15:18 <+MxZBot> tdc_vga: wish i knew
15:18 < tdc_vga> oh bots...
15:19 < tdc_vga> i just yelled at an automation system a few minutes ago, heh
15:19 < tdc_vga> the new audio ones piss me off... "i'm just as helpful as a real person, why don't we continue working together?"
15:20 <@Catonic> IVR is crazy
15:20 <@Catonic> I had to repeat "attendant" like four times... when you first say it, they drop you into a menu where it is no longer an option
15:20 < tdc_vga> i know one of the guys who's been writing the newest IVR crap... i'll take an outsourced line before damn IVR --most times
15:21 < tdc_vga> i just keep saying "human" until i get a person.
15:21 <@critch> if the automated system is as helpful as a real person, then there is no inteligence at that company
15:21 <@aestetix> tdc_vga: soaping the fountain is con tradition
15:21 <@aestetix> at least, it used to be
15:21 < tdc_vga> aestetix: excellent.. i'll watch from afar and avoid encouraging it, heh
15:21 <@Shadow404> agreed
15:21 <@Shadow404> unless they purposely drain it ahead of time
15:21 < tdc_vga> i'll bring a mini-rock fountain thing... and soup that up.
15:21 <@aestetix> Kinda like how dying the alexis park fountain with industrial strength purple dye was tradition...
15:22 <@aestetix> man that shit was funny
15:22 < tdc_vga> aestetix: now that sounds like fun, lol
15:22 <@Catonic> they are still after DT for $44K in damages
15:22 <@aestetix> Heheh.
15:23 < tdc_vga> are you serious? that's crazy
15:23 <@Catonic> three years later.
15:24 < tdc_vga> how big does phreaknic get? and where's the drinking at?
15:24 < tdc_vga> if they have a court case, they'll be after him for a lonngggggg time
15:24 <@critch> drinking on site, no travel
15:24 <@Catonic> 150 rooms, mostly 8,9.
15:24 < tdc_vga> i live down the block, heh... i'll have to stumble back/forth
15:24 <@Catonic> then again, it's a hacker con... supposedly hacker cons are much nicer crowds than most other cons
15:24 <@Catonic> at least in vegas.
15:25 <@aestetix> tdc_vga: I'd say around 250-300 normally.
15:25 < tdc_vga> nice size.
15:25 <@aestetix> it's a really good size for a con
15:25 < tdc_vga> yeah enough to meet everyone and avoid the ones you don't wanna talk to again, hehehe
15:25 <@aestetix> I've been to most "hacker" cons in the US. PhreakNIC is one of my favorite.
15:25 <@Catonic> yeah, ever since the hotel got wifi and ethernet, its gone downhill.
15:25 < tdc_vga> i wish i could have made it to the last HOPE
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15:25 < tdc_vga> been trying to go there since it started, heh
15:25 <@Catonic> people are doing that anti-social stay in thier room thing again.
15:26 <@aestetix> Heh.
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15:26 <@aestetix> I've gone every year since 5.
15:26 <@Shadow404> tdc_vga: avoid for sure
15:26 < tdc_vga> not like that can't be fixed, heh
15:26 <@poiupoiu> i always found it funny - for a group of hackers all gathered together, everyone is very friendly and open
15:26 < tdc_vga> poiupoiu: drunk too
15:26 <@poiupoiu> ahhh, forgot about that
15:27 < tdc_vga> gerst haus is across the street, heh
15:27 <@Catonic> I think that anyone who has been to Defcon should go to HOPE once and get a feel for how different the NYC/Baltimore/DC scene is
15:27 < tdc_vga> i haven't made it to any hacker cons yet... this'll be my first
15:27 <@Shadow404> tdc_vga: love that place
15:27 < tdc_vga> hopefully Sky still lets me talk, heh.
15:27 <@Catonic> poiupoiu: trust networks are quickly made.
15:27 <+MaxieZ> ~seen evilpig
15:27 <+MxZBot> evilpig is currently on #se2600  Last seen saying: 'soap does not go on the body'
15:27 < tdc_vga> the wardriving talk should be interesting, but i'd really like to do one on copyrights
15:27 < tdc_vga> i dont think enough programmers understand their rights, heh.
15:28 < ware> ~seen ware
15:28 <+MxZBot> ware is currently on #se2600.  Has said a total of 1 messages.  Is idling for 0s  Last seen saying: '~seen ware'
15:28 <@ShadowHntr> lol
15:28 <@Catonic> ~seen Catonic
15:28 <+MxZBot> catonic is currently on #se2600.  Has said a total of 3 messages.  Is idling for 0s  Last seen saying: '~seen Catonic'
15:28 <+MaxieZ> Evilpig: One of the last signs of the apocalypse is coming true!
15:28 < tdc_vga> ~seen tdc_vga
15:28 <+MxZBot> tdc_vga is currently on #se2600.  Has said a total of 8 messages.  Is idling for 0s  Last seen saying: '~seen tdc_vga'
15:28 <+MaxieZ> guys...
15:28 < tdc_vga> yay me
15:28 <@poiupoiu> Catonic, i still find it surprising how quickly trust networks ARE made
15:28 <@ShadowHntr> ware: wearing camouflage, are we?
15:28 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
15:28 < ware> camouflage? wtf you talkin about
15:28 <@Catonic> how do you hide from ware? hint: don't wear chair-colored camoflage.
15:29 < tdc_vga> most of the people at PreahNic from the surrounding areas?
15:29 <@Catonic> ware is a chair nazi, commiting a holocaust of chair crimes
15:29 <@aestetix> tdc_vga: are you the one I was talking to about reversing?
15:29 <+MaxieZ> Use ball camouflage (easier for some than others).  ware would never through a ball
15:29 < tdc_vga> aestetix: yup =)
15:29 <@ShadowHntr> ware: can't find yourself? having a midlife crisis?
15:29 < tdc_vga> aestetix: i was just reversing some stuff yesterday actually, heh
15:30 <@aestetix> http://evilinc.net/~aestetix/notatalk2008/
15:30 <@Catonic> Hell, I can't find myself most days.
15:30 <@aestetix> you might enjoy this
15:31 < tdc_vga> i love Frava and HCU.. grew up on that shit
15:31 < ware> i have no idea what the fuck any of you are talking about
15:31 <@aestetix> Heheh.
15:31 < ware> /ignore #se2600 *
15:31 <@aestetix> I thought you might :)
15:31 < tdc_vga> aestetix: i read the ppt... it was interesting. wish i had the audio of the talk.
15:31 < tdc_vga> heh
15:32 <@aestetix> tdc_vga: uh hold on
15:32 <@aestetix> lemm see if I can find it
15:32 < tdc_vga> *found the commentary*
15:32 < tdc_vga> heh
15:32 < tdc_vga> audio would be nice... gimme something to listen to tonight
15:32 <@aestetix> http://www.notacon.org/media/2008media.html
15:32 < tdc_vga> Godel Escher Bach... i keep trying to find that damn book at any used book store in Nashville.. but noooooo
15:33 <@aestetix> wtf
15:33 < tdc_vga> nice!
15:33 <@aestetix> did the site seriously just go down
15:33 <@aestetix> nope nevermind
15:33 <@aestetix> must have been some wierd dns hiccup
15:33 < tdc_vga> heh
15:33 < ware> thewebsiteisdown.com
15:33 < tdc_vga> these clustering algorithms are entertaining to write
15:33 < ware> tdc_vga: did you bring any chicks into the group?
15:34 < tdc_vga> ware: which group?
15:35 < ware> cause there isnt enough here
15:35 < ware> this group
15:35 < ware> phreaknic / nash2600
15:35 <@wizardpc> ware: did you?
15:36 < tdc_vga> ware: i know someone who might come / present but she's married heh
15:36 <@wizardpc> I thibk your count is -1, since Dementia left for Chicago after you showed up :P
15:37 < ware> yeah blame that on me
15:37 < ware> when she never hung out with me
15:37 < tdc_vga> chicago ain't that far, heh
15:37 <@Dementia> it's all ware's fault.
15:37 < ware> pretty sure thats all on you / oddball / evilpig / polerin / lissa
15:37 < ware> omg </3
15:38 < ware> Dementia: i thought you said you loved me after that night @ phreaknic?
15:38 < ware> it was the best 74 seconds of my life...
15:38 < tdc_vga> aestetix: i like the concept... no matter what the upper level lang, lower lang, etc. if it's a computer it's following turing.
15:38 < tdc_vga> ware: did you have a crashoverride?
15:38 < ware> tdc_vga: she overflowed my buffer
15:38 <@Dementia> that was a dream you had, ware.
15:38 < ware> twice*
15:39 <@aestetix> tdc_vga: exactly
15:39 <@timoguin> I think my MX records are fucked up since adding the CNAME for my dyndns domain.
15:39 < ware> Dementia: you were pretty drunk, so ill forgive you if you forgot
15:39 < tdc_vga> ware: sounds more like a buffer underrun
15:39 <@Dementia> sure, whatever.
15:39 <@Dementia> I'll leave you to your sad little fantasies.
15:39 < ware> well there wasnt anything little about it
15:39 < ware> err
15:40 < tdc_vga> *them ware.. them
15:40 < ware> nvm
15:40 <@timoguin> All the MX records point @ to the gmail servers.
15:40 < tdc_vga> match the syntax
15:40 <@timoguin> There used to be an A record that pointed @ to my IP.
15:40  * tdc_vga is usually pretty drunk and wonders if he needs to stay away from ware at said moments.
15:40 < ware> fantasys they were not, but a fantasy come true yes
15:40 <@timoguin> but now I just have a CNAME that points from domain to dyndns domain.
15:41 <@timoguin> Should I add a @ CNAME?
15:41 < tdc_vga> (off topic) - did anyone notice the cthulhu movie coming out w/ tory spelling?
15:41 <+MaxieZ> timoguin: What you're saying doesn't make sense...either something else is wrong or part of the story is being ommitted
15:41 <+MaxieZ> care to share the domain?
15:41 <@timoguin> timoguin.com
15:41 < ware> timoguin: dude you were there, remember when Dementia came to our room and she did "the pony show" with me?
15:42 <@aestetix> I think I'm going to give a talk at PhreakNIC about sex
15:42 <@ShadowHntr> ERROR: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
15:42 <@timoguin> ware: oh yea...
15:42 <@ShadowHntr> wtf?
15:42 <@Dementia> bored with this conversation now.
15:42 < ware> have to have MX records for timoguin.com
15:42 <+MaxieZ> aestetix: What's sex?
15:42 < ware> atm there is none
15:42 < tdc_vga> lol
15:42 <@aestetix> MaxieZ: I have done a lot of research on it
15:42  * ware gets out his lock of Dementia hair and takes a long sniff, then puts it back
15:42 <@timoguin> I have MX records.  The host is set to @ like it was in the beginning.
15:42 <+MaxieZ> Interesting...No idea.
15:42 <@timoguin> and they poing to gmail's servers.
15:42  * tdc_vga notes sex is technically the gender of a live entity...
15:43 <@timoguin> *point
15:43 <@aestetix> Sex is basically when you download videos of a girl getting naked and jack off to them
15:43 < ware> [w@abstract ~]$ host -t mx timoguin.com
15:43 < ware> timoguin.com is an alias for timoguin.mine.nu.
15:43 < ware> [w@abstract ~]$ host -t mx timoguin.mine.nu
15:43 < ware> timoguin.mine.nu has no MX record
15:43 <+MaxieZ> Oh...I see
15:43 <@timoguin> ooohhh.
15:43 <@timoguin> So I guess I need to set MX records for timoguin.mine.nu?
15:43 <@timoguin> Because I have them set for timoguin.com
15:43 < ware> you should set em to gmail on the godaddy account @ timoguin.com
15:44 <@timoguin> ware: that's how they're set!
15:44 < ware> durno, that should pick em up if you have em set
15:44 < ware> well how comes day dun sho up!?
15:44 <@timoguin> I don't know.
15:44 <@timoguin> That's what I'm trying to figure out.
15:44 < tdc_vga> such anger.
15:44 <@timoguin> I haven't received an email in 9 days.
15:44 <+MaxieZ> No...you just need to set MX records for timoguin
15:44 <@timoguin> and i was getting pissed earlier today about people not returning emails.
15:45 <+MaxieZ> If you set them that way you need to call godaddy with a big wtf?
15:46 <+MaxieZ> cause godaddy ain't saying shit
15:46 <@timoguin> I had to do that before...
15:47 <@timoguin> That's weird.
15:47 < ware> whelp
15:47 < ware> i get no mx records from 3 different sites
15:47 <@timoguin> Think it would make a different if I changed the wildcard host to timoguin.com?
15:48 < ware> Mail eXchangerz fukt like Dementia in a trinity suit
15:48 <+MaxieZ> No
15:48 <+MaxieZ> It might make godaddy reload the zone...I guess I'll give it that
15:48  * ware gets out the blue hair and takes another sniff
15:48 <@timoguin> The first MX record is Priority 10, Host @, Goes To aspmx.l.google.com, TTL 1 Hour.
15:49 <+MaxieZ> Can you put in a domain?
15:49 <@timoguin> and i have seven more exactly like that with decreasing priority for alternate servers.
15:49 <@timoguin> MaxieZ: yea.
15:49 <+MaxieZ> Try timoguin.com. (last period is important)
15:49 <@polerin> wow
15:49 <@Catonic> periods can interrupt sex.
15:49 <@timoguin> but it's been like this since i set it up a few months ago and it's fucking up now.
15:49 <@Catonic> or not.
15:49 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@74.203.138.17] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
15:49 <@timoguin> Catonic: no they can't.
15:49 <@polerin> just watched afghanistan take bronze in TKD mens 58kg
15:50 <@polerin> he's crying and just out of it he's so happy
15:50 <@polerin> that's really cool...
15:50 <+MaxieZ> TKD?
15:50 <@polerin> tae kwon do
15:50 <+MaxieZ> ah
15:50 <@Catonic> nice... for a war torn nation
15:50 <@timoguin> The "Host Name" should be defined as your domain name (i.e., "domainnamegoeshere.com") or "@" (Entering "@" will automatically insert your domain name as the host name for the MX Record)
15:50 <@polerin> dood trains in a gym with no bathroom, the size of my upstairs
15:51 <@timoguin> That's from the godaddy zone editor.
15:51 <@Dagmar> I'm super pleased that someone's found evidence that the Chinese gold winning gynmast was NOT actually 16.
15:51 <@polerin> hehe
15:51 <@Dagmar> ...and frankly I think saying she's even 14 is pretty questionable.
15:51 <@Catonic> i heard she was 14, then i popped a boner.
15:52 <@Dagmar> I was looking at her and thinking "10-11, maybe 12."  The girl has exactly zero pelvic flare
15:52  * ware throws cold water on Catonic 
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15:52 < ware> ROFL pelvic flare
15:52 < ware> speaking of, whats up dc0de
15:52 <@aestetix> hard dicks and airplanes
15:52 <@dc0de> huh?
15:53 < ware> theres an airplane up you?!
15:53 <@Dagmar> ware: Instead of making an ass of yourself, do a little research on the phrase.
15:53 <@Dagmar> One of the first things that kicks in as puberty hits on women is that the pelvis broadens (flares)
15:53 <@Shadow404> timoguin: let me see the zone file
15:53 <@polerin> dc0de: he was answering your question ;P
15:53 < ware> pelvic flare is going to be lulz worthy regardless what the phrase means
15:53 <@Shadow404> send it to my gmail
15:54 < ware> see thats still hilarious
15:54 <@polerin> Dagmar: that is delayed in gymnasts somewhat
15:54 < ware> 'damn girl, your flares are bangin!'
15:54 <@Catonic> google for results in nothing useful
15:54 <@timoguin> Shadow404: okay, one minute.
15:54 < ware> or flared up, from all the dick
15:54 <@polerin> not a whole bunch, and there are stories of china prescribing hormone blockers
15:54 <@Shadow404> timoguin: thx, ill try to answer you by tomorrow, just heading home now
15:55 <@timoguin> I'll probably figure it out by tomorrow.
15:55 <@timoguin> I'm about to call godaddy.
15:56 <@rhia> Dagmar: http://ibtimes.com/articles/20080815/olympic-gymnast-china-age.htm
15:56 <@Shadow404> ok
15:57 <@Shadow404> timoguin: ew, formatting please
15:57 <@Catonic> there's the phrase that pays: "sex related flare ups"
15:57 <@Shadow404> nm, vi fixedit
15:57 < ware> MONKEY FLARE STARE!!!!
15:58 < ware> i gived dat chick sum ware flares
15:58 <@Shadow404> timoguin: dude, its all wrong
15:58 <@Shadow404> why are you doing cname for everything
15:58 <@nachoguy> ware, the proper phrase-e-ology is "dayum gi'l youse flares be bangin', an' whatnot"
15:58 < ware> werd.
15:58 < ware> how do you get a baby into a casserole pan?
15:58 <@timoguin> Shadow404: I don't know.  Because that's what everyone said to do when I setup the dyndns shit recently.
15:58 < ware> dead baby*
15:58 < ware> whoops
15:59 <@Shadow404> na, ok, take a look at this
15:59 <@Catonic> I think a better tact would just be to look at her, put a stupid look on your face and say "You know you want it."
15:59 <@Shadow404> so insert the correct ip where i put IP
15:59 <@timoguin> And I just clicked export from the godaddy page, so sorry about the formatting.
15:59 <@Shadow404> did you see what i did
15:59 <@Shadow404> try that and keep a copy if you have to rever back
16:00 <@Shadow404> if its blank before the A record it points to the origin domain
16:00 <@Shadow404> so i have a blank and a www entry for a
16:00 <@timoguin> Shadow404: I can't put in an IP.
16:00 <@timoguin> that was the whole point before.
16:00 <@Shadow404> ok
16:00 <@Shadow404> so heres your isue
16:00 <@Shadow404> big issue
16:00 <@timoguin> I wanted to point timoguin.com to timoguin.mine.nu
16:00 <@Shadow404> place a period at he end of all yoru cnames
16:00 <@Shadow404> durka
16:01 <@timoguin> My website works fine though.
16:01 <+MaxieZ> Shadow404: Isn't he using godaddy's DNS toy?
16:01 <@Shadow404> yeah, but the extra period
16:01 < ware> ##HELPDESK
16:01 <@timoguin> Yea, I am.
16:01 <@Shadow404> if you place a period after the cname you wont need the extra period when tring to get to your site
16:01 <@timoguin> but i can manually edit the zone file and import it.
16:01 <@Shadow404> ok, im outtie
16:02 <@Dagmar> You people make me sad.
16:02 <@Shadow404> seriouslly, just palce a period after the cname and try it
16:02 <@Shadow404> out
16:02 <@timoguin> Shadow404: I will.
16:02 < ware> Dagmar: ya inorite
16:02 < ware> git born leet shit
16:03 <@timoguin> But when I type in timoguin.com and every other cname it resolves fine.
16:03 <@timoguin> So why wouldn't it work for the MX records as well?
16:03 <@polerin> hmm. possibly he didn't get it...  that may have been a semifinal match rather than the final for bronze
16:03 <+MaxieZ> timoguin: Personally, I'd just call godaddy and say where tf are my mx records
16:03 <@Dagmar> MX records can't be CNAMES.
16:04 <@brimstone> pisses me off too
16:04 <+MaxieZ> He's just trying to send them to google
16:04 < ware> clear em out save
16:04 < ware> let it simmier for 15
16:04 <@Dagmar> ...unless of course you're a HUGE fan of mail loops.
16:04 < ware> put em back in
16:04 <@timoguin> Okay.  Well I didn't think so.
16:04 <@brimstone> i love me some mail loops
16:04 < ware> Dagmar: MX for timoguin.com needs to be set to google's mail servers and itll work fine
16:05 <@brimstone> waking up in the morning, no idea where this email is going or if it's ever gonna make it
16:05 <@timoguin> ware: except they're set.  but not showing up for some reason.
16:05 <@timoguin> so... me's calling.
16:05 < ware> take em out, save, simmer, reapply, save, simmer, win
16:06 <@timoguin> I like to simmer my  balls.
16:06 < ware> i prefer mine steamed
16:06 <@brimstone> do you not have any NS records either timoguin?
16:06 <@timoguin> brimstone: no.
16:07 <@brimstone> i wonder if that's messing with anything
16:07 <@Catonic> last night I had to bump start the rabbit... twice.
16:07 <+MaxieZ> I'm guessing the top level name servers have some :)
16:08 <@timoguin> just a cname that points timoguin.com to timoguin.mine.nu, a few cnames like start.timoguin.com that point to google apps, and mx records that point to google apps.
16:08 <@brimstone> NS35.DOMAINCONTROL.COM doesn't have any mx records, good luck with that
16:13 <@timoguin> "Telephone number you have dialed is temporarily not in service."
16:13 <@timoguin> uh...
16:13 <@timoguin> anyone know how to call godaddy?
16:14 <@brimstone> they call me typically
16:14 <@timoguin> okay, tell them to give me a call.
16:14 <@brimstone> wait for me to renew a domain then
16:17 <+MaxieZ> I'm guessing the number at the top right that says sales & support 24/7
16:18 <+MaxieZ> 480 505 8877
16:19 <@timoguin> Yea that's the one I called.
16:19 <@brimstone> did you dial 9 first?
16:19  * brimstone ducks
16:19  * timoguin throws a brick at brimstone
16:20 < ware> ROFLLLFLFLEINSODFNASOHDFI!)+#$(+!$@@!!!12=3-1023=-12031!
16:20 < ware> http://linux-ip.net/html/basic-changing.html
16:20 < ware> that will help you in your quest
16:21 <@timoguin> I'm out of bricks now.
16:21 <@brimstone> you know what i love? package managers
16:21 <@brimstone> they just rock so hard
16:21 <@timoguin> hahaha.
16:22 <@timoguin> I just emailed godaddy support from my timoguin.com email.
16:22 <@timoguin> Then realized I probably won't get the response.
16:22  * brimstone returns the brick
16:22 <@dc0de> Shadow404: ping
16:23 <@dc0de> timoguin: I've done that.
16:25 <@timoguin> hmm.
16:25 <@timoguin> so the dontreplay confirmation email has a different support number.
16:25 <@timoguin> cool.
16:27 < ware> so
16:27 < ware> who wants to manually approve / deny 1200 updates
16:28 < ware> on a wsus for me
16:28 <@timoguin> approve_all.exe
16:28 <@timoguin> do you have to do that now?
16:28 < ware> that executable also calls fuck_the_network_and_cause_downtime.exe
16:29 < ware> so your solution will not work
16:29 < ware> they want me to but i dont want to
16:29 <@timoguin> yea no shit.
16:29 < ware> id rather sit on irc and play with my balls for 30 min
16:29 <@timoguin> of course.
16:29 <@brimstone> sounds like the friday script we have
16:29 < ware> wsus will handle new updates coming in via policy
16:29 < ware> but it wont do the initial updates
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16:30 <@timoguin> are there 1200 updates on a fresh install?
16:30 <@wizardpc> holy crap everyone's jumping ship
16:30 < ware> yahp
16:30 <@timoguin> or were the initial ones never done?
16:31 < ware> fresh er fresh erwickiki fresh
16:31  * ware jumps on wizardpc's ship
16:31 <@timoguin> I'm on hold.
16:31 < ware> WEEEE PONTOON BOAT!!!!
16:32 <@brimstone> fisch!
16:32 <@timoguin> I like to think that he hacking away at fixing it.
16:32 < ware> OMG I WISH I WCOULD DO BIG FONTS IN IRC THAT WOULD BE LULZ
16:32 <@timoguin> But he's probably eating fritos.
16:32 < ware> o hai has ur call, brb fritos
16:32 < ware> guesses: 0  time: 0:22:25:21  c/s: 2434  trying: ecf5t5
16:32 < ware> that is bollox
16:33 <@timoguin> omg that's my pw!
16:33 < ware> Only one salt:  1951692.00 c/s real, 1957552.00 c/s virtual
16:33 < ware> see this is dumb. i need to setup my amd x64 box
16:34 < ware> 2.8ghz iirc, should fly thru this shiz
16:34 <@brimstone> i'm thinking arby's
16:34 < ware> he's thinking arbys
16:35 <@ShadowHntr> ware: jack the ripper?
16:35 <@ShadowHntr> er
16:35 <@ShadowHntr> john?
16:35 <@rhia> talk about nasty thoughts... Arby's ... shudder
16:35  * ware jumps in rhia's lap and goes to sleep
16:36 <@timoguin> godaddy says the MX records won't work without A records.
16:36 <@brimstone> timoguin.
16:36 <@Dagmar> This is why people should be forced to read docs and learn about DNS before attempting to use some web interface bullshit.
16:36 <@brimstone> what did Dagmar say about half an hour ago?
16:37 <@brimstone> srsly, lrn2pay attention
16:37 <@timoguin> Well everyone was telling me something different.
16:37 <@Dagmar> Your MX record must point to a name that EXISTS, i.e, it has an A record.
16:37  * rhia pushes ware off with a cluebat then heads for a shower .... ewww.....
16:37 <@timoguin> Dagmar: you're right.
16:37 < ware> Mail Exchanger, code 15. Each MX record specifies a domain name (which must have an A record associated with it) and a priority; a list of mail exchangers is then ordered by priority when delivering mail. MX records provide one level of indirection in mapping the domain part of an email address to a list of host names which are meant to receive mail for that domain name. Critical part of the infrastructure used to support SMTP email. Defined in
16:37  * timoguin goes to get a DNS book.
16:37 <@brimstone> i know, i know, it's hard with all this text flying past
16:37 <@Dagmar> It doesn't take very long to learn, and will be incredibly useful stuff.
16:37 <@brimstone> you'd think there'd be a way to log it or something
16:38 <@brimstone> bind also spits out errors when you try to do something stpid
16:38 <@rhia> Dagmar: btw, sent a link earlier... 9 months ago, that Chinese gymnast was 13 .... they grow up so quickly
16:38 <@Dagmar> ...and we're here to answer questions if you hit some of the more insane bits
16:38 <@brimstone> stupid, i know this first hand
16:38 <@Dagmar> rhia: Yeah, I think she should be disqualified.
16:38 <@Dagmar> ...and personally, I think someone should be fining China for pulling such bullshit
16:38 <@brimstone> they can't just wait 4 years?
16:38 < ware> rhia: </3
16:39 <@timoguin> the support guy added in the defaults and A records.
16:39 <@timoguin> 3 different IP addresses.
16:39 <@rhia> Dagmar: yeah, but, honestly, the other countries, US included, should have filed formal complaints as soon as they saw her name as 'qualified' ... now we're just disgruntled losers ... sigh
16:40 <@rhia> but i agree, that's dirty pool
16:40 <@brimstone> it's ashame that countries pull that crap
16:40 <@rhia> it's not like it was unknown in those circles
16:41 <@timoguin> Now my A records point @ to the IP for ghs.google.com.
16:41 <@timoguin> I'm fucking confused.
16:41 <@timoguin> Need to get a book.
16:43 <@Dagmar> rhia: if they can pull someone's medal for failing a drug test after the fact, they can sure as hell pull someone's medal for failing to be the minimum age
16:44 <@Dagmar> We're not disgruntled losers, they're _cheaters_
16:44 <@Dagmar> But hey, when has it ever been safe to trust the Chinese about anything?
16:44 <@Dagmar> They're the people more than happy to sell us children's toys made with more lead than a fishing sinker
16:46 <@rhia> Dagmar: understood ...
16:47 <@rhia> Dagmar: however, by now, China has produced the documents and the probable reasons for confusion BS ... in triplicate spades
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16:48 <@rhia> the other countries, Russia esp, should have filed formal complaints as soon as her name qualified to BE in the olympics....
16:48 <@wizardpc> does anyone know how to print to a pcl file in windows?
16:48 <@rhia> hell, she stole a medal from their top female, who is really good
16:49 <@Dagmar> wizardpc; Image writer
16:49 < ware> thought she outperformed her
16:49 < ware> regardless of age
16:49 <@rhia> so far as i know right now, not one coach complained
16:49 <@rhia> ware: i've competed in gymnastics.... she didn'
16:49 <@rhia> t
16:49 <@Dagmar> You don't know that they didn't complain either
16:49 <@rhia> outperform her
16:50 <@Dagmar> Rules is rules, and China are a bunch of lying, totalitarian, cheaters.
16:50 <@rhia> i know how they score and how hard various moves are, the Russians were pretty much doomed before it started ... more the shame
16:50 <@SkyDog_> wizardpc: cp <file> lpt1 ????
16:50 <@Dagmar> So fuck em
16:50 <@rhia> Dagmar: agree, just stating that After the fact is a damned lot harder to Prove than before hand ....
16:50 <@Dagmar> You know how many things the Chinese gov't lies about
16:51 <@Dagmar> Them stating that they believe the girl is 16 is just bullshit
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16:51 <@rhia> if they'd complained beforehand, she'd have quietly disappeared off the lists, or there would have been a major international stink before the games started
16:51 <@Dagmar> No one had anything that looked like proof beforehand
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16:52 <@rhia> Dagmar: according to many older, predated news sites, yes, they did
16:52 <@Dagmar> Once you show a girl who is clearly way way underaged to a large number of people on TV tho, folks start to looking for anomalies
16:52 <@rhia> there were some complaints almost a year ago, just no one bothered to file anything official
16:52 <@Dagmar> So what
16:52 <@Dagmar> I say that'e because everyone expected that for the Olympics people will do the right thing without being forced at lawyerpoint
16:54 <@rhia> so it's now we're bitching cuz we lost, the Russians are bitching cuz they lost ... wahhh, sour grapes ... and maybe, in 2 years, possibly, Nastia might get the Gold back... but i doubt it w/o some Really good document forensics
16:54 <@timoguin> So since my DNS wasn't setup right, will I receive any emails once it's fixed or will they be lost forever?
16:54 <@rhia> it's a load of BS, yes, BUT, the coaches et al majorly dropped the ball by thinking "oh, well, we can beat her, so what the hell" instead of raising 6 levels of Cain beforehand
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16:56 <@rhia> and the Chinese are looking towards asking for forgiveness for having bad record keeping (she was older all along, whatever) instead of the necessary permission in the first place
16:56 <@Dagmar> timoguin: Depends on how the mail servers that currently have your mail are configured
16:56 < nated0g> aight heading home from work
16:56 < nated0g> have a good one se2600
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16:57 <@Dagmar> HOsts with no valid MX record tend to get their mail thrown out
16:57 <@Dagmar> There's no obligation on the part of the mail server to hold onto mail and hope an MX record materializes.
16:57 <@Dagmar> They'll generally only hold mail for about 72 hours tops when all MX hosts are down
16:58 <@timoguin> okay.
17:00 <@timoguin> I didn't know the MX record had to have a corresponding A record.
17:00 <@Dagmar> It does.
17:00 <@Dagmar> In short, it has to point somewhere
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17:00 <@Dagmar> Damn I'm gettingy lazy
17:01 <@Dagmar> Anyone know of somewhere I can just have someone print up about 40 sheets of vinyl
17:01 <@Dagmar> Okay mayb 40 is overkill
17:01 <@timoguin> I thought the host would just point to google's servers, and then those servers would resolve.
17:01 <@brimstone> 40 is never overkill
17:02 <@timoguin> but it goes MX to serverdomain to A to IP?
17:02 <@Dagmar> What "goes" and how does it "go"?
17:02 <@Dagmar> No MX record means you don't get mail.
17:02 <@timoguin> I understand that.
17:03 <@Dagmar> http://www.hansenonline.net/Networking/zonefile.html
17:03 <@Dagmar> NOte the have an MX record.
17:03 <@Dagmar> It has a hostname in there.
17:03 <@Dagmar> The hostname in turn has an A record.
17:03 <@Dagmar> i.e., the hostname is actually assigned to an IP address.
17:03 <@Catonic> You know, concern for cheating was why the early olympics were played in the nude.
17:04 <@timoguin> Right.
17:04 <@Dagmar> brimstone: Considering I'm just looking to cover parts of my scooter, 40 8x11 sheets might be way more than I need
17:04 <@timoguin> I had my MX records set to gmails server domain.
17:04 <@Dagmar> Nice.  So their servers can reject your mail.
17:04 <@timoguin> Those are still the same.  Now I have a wildcard A record that points to the IP for ghs.google.com
17:05 <@timoguin> I didn't have the A records set because I removed the entry for the static IP i had.
17:05 <@timoguin> just cnames to point to my dyndns domain.
17:05 <@Dagmar> Allow me to suggesst that a wildcard listing is just as bad as a CNAME, and for hte same reasons.
17:06 <@timoguin> I don't know why a CNAME is bad either.
17:06 <@timoguin> The wildcards were all default.
17:07 <@Dagmar> I can tell you why a cname is bad.
17:07 <@Dagmar> Mail loops.
17:08 <@timoguin> Reading.
17:08 <@Dagmar> 'cuz due to admins doing stupid things, you can have mail come in, the server think that it needs to be delivered elsewhere, and actually manage to resend the mail to itself.
17:08 <@Dagmar> ...and it doesn't even take something _very_ stupid to cause mail to do bad things.
17:08 < tdc_vga> what are Notacon's registration fees?
17:09 <@timoguin> Dagmar: isn't a CNAME my only option to be able to use my domain with a dynamic IP?
17:09 <@Dagmar> Jesus no
17:10 <@timoguin> aside from setting up my own DNS or paying dyndns.org, what can I do?
17:10 <@Dagmar> You're just going to have to set very low TTLs on the zone file tho
17:10 <@Dagmar> You have no other options
17:10 <@Dagmar> Learn about DNS.
17:10 <+MaxieZ> You could even write a script to update DNS on the fly
17:10 <@timoguin> Yea I figured that much.
17:11 <@Dagmar> Learn about DNS and this confusion will go away.
17:11 <@Dagmar> Keep trying to cherry pick to just get your mail working, and after a few years you'll be ready to take your MSCE like the rest of them
17:11 <@timoguin> Aww.  I don't even have a machine running windows!
17:12 <@timoguin> I have been wanting to setup a DNS server for a while now.
17:12 <@Dagmar> That's okay, so do a lot of people who are MCSEs
17:12 <@Dagmar> They're just there to click buttons and deploy solutions other people built.
17:12 <@Dagmar> They're not at work to actually do anything.
17:12 <@timoguin> Just haven't gotten around to it yet.
17:13 <@Dagmar> I swear to you it's easier than it sounds
17:13 <@timoguin> It doesn't sound complicated.
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17:13 <@timoguin> I just haven't done it yet.
17:14 <@timoguin> I'll probably set one up today or tomorrow.
17:17 <@sdodson> What's crapn'n?
17:18 <+MaxieZ> anybody ever heard of using DNS for authentication?
17:18 <@sdodson> ldap?
17:18 <@Evilpig> like a reverse lookup kinda thing?
17:18 <+MaxieZ> sdodson: basically
17:18 <+MaxieZ> but using a dns server instead
17:18 <+MaxieZ> Evilpig: I mean kind of like ldap
17:19 <@sdodson> sounds intarsting
17:19 <+MaxieZ> I mean DNS already has all the caching built in...
17:19 <+MaxieZ> So...you'd just need to write a client module to authenticate against the record.
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17:20 <+MaxieZ> and of course firewall off the DNS server :)
17:23 <@brimstone> oh the fun to be had subverting security
17:27 <+MaxieZ> brimstone: Your thoughts?
17:27 <@brimstone> I <3 Alt-P
17:28 <@brimstone> and print to file
17:28 <@brimstone> and the windows file selection dialog box
17:28 <@aestetix> lpr
17:28 <@brimstone> and windows admins with huge egos since 1970
17:29 <@critch> fun, rain shows up as I am ready to ride the bike home.
17:29 <+MaxieZ> Ah.  I thought you were referring to the DNS authentication idea
17:29 <@critch> so much for 20% chance of tain
17:29 <+MaxieZ> Which could be fun
17:29 <@brimstone> that's fun too
17:29 <+MaxieZ> I could definitely see area A deciding to share it's members with person B using recursion
17:29 <@brimstone> but getting online in the lab was more pressing
17:29 <+MaxieZ> Then you could dns cache poison passwords
17:31 <@brimstone> i wonder if i can get to SYSTEM from the account access login...
17:32 <@Dagmar> Ooooh all kindsa rain moving in
17:33 <@Dagmar> I guess I know it's not going to clean my car
17:33 <@Dagmar> I let that go *way* too long.
17:33 <@Dagmar> I've got these art-deco circles of clean on the roof from the car wash machine I tried to use
17:41 <@brimstone> please do not touch steve's pet alligator
17:43 <@aestetix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqLMcyUFrSA
17:43 <@aestetix> Elmo rocks.
17:45 <@aestetix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6qyMs8SNzw
17:45 <@aestetix> dude it's child porn
17:45 <@aestetix> on youtube
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18:16 <@Dagmar> darkskiez: That was because the frontend was designed to run on an appliance machine, not a desktop PC.
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18:31 <@wizardpc> w00t just got my .5w IR LEDs in
18:32 <@wizardpc> http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/02/21/ir-leds-used-to-defeat-security-cameras/
18:32 <@wizardpc> ~minilink
18:32 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/hackedgadgets.com/uylRg
18:34 <@brimstone> ...
18:34 <@brimstone> 500mw IR?
18:39 <@wizardpc> yep
18:39 <@brimstone> i think i'd tan if hit with that
18:39 <@brimstone> or burn
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18:40 <@wizardpc> oh and was it you that suggested using DVI for PC/VGA for laptop on a LCD monitor?
18:40 <@wizardpc> so you can switch sources on the monitor
18:42 <@brimstone> i dunno, but i do that
18:42 <@nachoguy> I've been thinking about that (the IR) for years
18:42 <@nachoguy> wasn't sure how feasable it was
18:44 <@wizardpc> brimstone: well you were talking about it to someone and I picked up a DVI cable because of it. Thank you sir, now I have more room without that spare CRT sitting on my desk
18:44 <@wizardpc> nachoguy: I'm putting one or two on my license plate. I'll share my results later
18:45 <@brimstone> ah, ok, good job then!
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18:52 <@nachoguy> wizardpc, I always wanted to put them on the brim of a hat.  Now that you can't wear hats in banks/govt buildings, perhaps a necklace or earings (if you wear such things)
18:52 <@brimstone> what about my hat?
18:53 <@nachoguy> brimstone, you do drink alcohol, right?
18:53 <@brimstone> when the mood strikes me...
18:53 <@nachoguy> at PN I must find you and give you a beer.
18:53 <@brimstone> oh?
18:53 <@brimstone> why am i getting beer?
18:55 <@brimstone> this is relevant to my interests, but i must change locations now
18:55 <@brimstone> be back later
18:55 <@nachoguy> later
18:55 <@nachoguy> for the record, you're damn entertaining
18:55 < ware> no
18:55 < ware> wtfh
18:57 <@wizardpc> nachoguy: skullcap
18:59 <@nachoguy> wizardpc, the only thing they'd let you get away with are religeous head coverings.  if you've got one of those with wires and LEDs in it, you're in deep shit
19:10 <@aestetix> word
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19:18 < AstralSin> anyone ever used a wireless 360 controller in linux?
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19:18 <@Dagmar> Nope.
19:18 <@Dagmar> Such things are taboo
19:19 < AstralSin> bleh, this bluetooth adapter isn't working
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19:33 <@sysmin> Is that bitch LadyMerlin around?
19:33 <@sysmin> I love doing that
19:34 <@sysmin> I should sign out before she reads that
19:35  * ladymerlin smackes sysmin 
19:35 < ware> rofl
19:35 <@sysmin> Oh, now I got your attention
19:35 <@sysmin> hahah
19:36 <@sysmin> Answer your IMs
19:36 <@sysmin> hahaha
19:36 <@ladymerlin> :P
19:36 <@aestetix> just bring up the time she slept with ware. that'll bring her into the channel in under 10 seconds
19:36 <@sysmin> Wow
19:36 <@sysmin> hahaha
19:36 <@aestetix> That's some water tower humor right there
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19:37 <@sysmin> ladymerlin: Do you know if anyone took pictures during our Defcon presentation?
19:37 <@ladymerlin> umm, nto sure
19:37 <@ladymerlin> ill find out tho
19:37 <@sysmin> That sucks
19:37 <@sysmin> Thank you, there were a fuck ton of people there
19:38 <@sysmin> I would like to see pictures
19:38 <@ladymerlin> i know i forgot my camera :(
19:38 <@ladymerlin> but yeha ill find out
19:38 <@sysmin> I had mine, you could have used
19:38 <@sysmin> That sucked
19:38 <@ladymerlin> you have seen teh pics of you i have right?
19:38 <@ladymerlin> like you and presmike
19:38 <@ladymerlin> lol
19:38 <@sysmin> Yeah
19:38 <@sysmin> Hiliarious
19:38 <@sysmin> I just saw those
19:38 <@ladymerlin> haha eyah
19:39 < ware> aestetix: lulz
19:42 <@sysmin> I will talk to you guys later, I gotta run and get my drink on in St Louis
19:42 <@ladymerlin> hehe enjoy
19:43 <@sysmin> will do, maybe I will slap some bitches while I am there too
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19:44 <@aestetix> wtf is there to do in stl
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19:48 <@mtown_nerd> Drink Schafly's beer on draft
19:48 <@mtown_nerd> er...on tap, I guess I should say.
19:52 < m-c> what's new mtown_nerd  ?
19:52 < ware> m-c hammer!?
19:54 <@mtown_nerd> Nothin'
19:54 <@mtown_nerd> Kinda' bored. :[
19:54 <@mtown_nerd> I keep thinking I wanna' go somewhere, but I can't come up with anything interesting to go
19:54 <@mtown_nerd> Cuz, y'know, it's Memphis
19:54 <@mtown_nerd> ;[
19:55 < ware> memphrica
19:55 < m-c> hi ware
19:55 <@mtown_nerd> Where obese moms start fights with 9 year olds
19:55 <@sdodson> I fucking hate concert tickets.
19:55 <@mtown_nerd> :o
19:55 <@mtown_nerd> That's kind of a harsh thing to say for something so ....  papery.  :x
19:56 <@sdodson> Price $16.50, Conv. Fee $10.15, Total 16.65 per ticket then of course there's the order fee of $5.15 on top of the entire order.
19:56 <@sdodson> err $26.65
19:56 <@mtown_nerd> lol
19:57 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah...the associated fees can be kinda' ridiculous
19:57 <@sdodson> eat my ass live nation
19:58 < ware> they gotta make moneys somehow
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20:04 < m-c> http://blip.tv/file/756342/
20:05 < m-c> Thought this video was pretty rad.
20:27 <@aestetix> ugh
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22:29 < ware> http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:expandcategory?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=E43D2699BCE742179B81FE831165E337&tab=3#tab-container-5
22:30 <@brimstone> ~minilink plz
22:30 <+MxZBot> invalid URL
22:30 <@brimstone> ..
22:30 <@brimstone> ~minilink
22:30 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/lenovo.com/v29LA.workflow:expandcategory
22:30 <@brimstone> ug, still too long for this terminal
22:31 < someninjamaster> thats fine as long as you dont mind dirty communist tech
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22:38 < eryc> my dicks is too long for this terminal
22:40 < someninjamaster> awesome
22:40 < someninjamaster> what cellphone client are you using
22:47 < someninjamaster> ;)
22:47 < eryc> i'm at terminal b at the airport
22:48 < eryc> my dick is bigger than a 747
22:49 <@sasquatc4> so do you have to buy out a plane when traveling?
22:59 <@sasquatc4> sweet, wet tshirt contest at olympic womens volleyball
23:00 < someninjamaster> damn what channel
23:00 <@sasquatc4> nbc
23:00 <@sasquatc4> its raining hard, but they decided to start the gold medal match anyway as long as theres no lightening
23:00 < someninjamaster> which nbc
23:01 <@sasquatc4> the regular, your local
23:01 < someninjamaster> hmm
23:01 < someninjamaster> all i see is recap stuff
23:01 < someninjamaster> race walking is a fucking sport
23:02 <@sasquatc4> hah
23:02 <@sasquatc4> well you can try one of the others, cnbc or universal, there may be a few others
23:04 < someninjamaster> ok the rain on the race walkers is kinda nice
23:05 <@sasquatc4> hehe
23:05 <@sasquatc4> thats wierd, your local must be running the secondary feed, cause the walkers are on cnbc and universal hd, which usually runs the other feed
23:06 < someninjamaster> thats what im watching on universal
23:06 <@sasquatc4> ahh
23:06 < someninjamaster> haha
23:06 < someninjamaster> i just have to laugh at this
23:06 < someninjamaster> this is so dumb
23:07 <@sasquatc4> that hardly seems like an accomplishment, 'she is the #1 walker in the world this year'
23:08  * someninjamaster waits to see an injury
23:08 < eryc> is step climbing an event?
23:08 < eryc> wait
23:08 <@sasquatc4> mmm, good butt shots tho
23:08 < eryc> they need a crawling on all fours event
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23:12 <@sasquatc4> or a crab walk event
23:12 < someninjamaster> or a rear adramral event
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