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00:21 < ware> yay fair
00:21 < ware> almost got sick hehe
00:23 <@someninjamaster> haha
00:23 < ware> looking at the monitor is making me woozy tho
00:24 < ware> the spinny rides pwn my face
00:24 <@someninjamaster> was there a chair toss at the fair
00:25 < ware> its on wednesday
00:25 < ware> im reigning champ from last year
00:25 < ware> http://twitpic.com/84xq
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00:42 <@NotLarry> fuck
00:42 <@NotLarry> er, I mean hey all
00:51 <@NotLarry> is there anyone here?
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01:53 <@Catonic> ouch.
01:53 <@Catonic> ups runtime: 5 seconds.
01:53 <@Catonic> which comes first: pv, vg, or lv?
01:53 <@Catonic> lv is last I gather, but I can't seem to figure what's before it.
01:54 <@Catonic> (re: lvm)
02:05 < m-c> physical
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06:46 < Shadow404> Catonic: still awake?
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07:11 <@brimstone> lots of pv's fill up a vg's from which you slice out lv's right?
07:15 < TheLightcosine> ?
07:15 <@brimstone> re: Catonic
07:16 < TheLightcosine> ah *goes back to his corner*
07:19 < Shadow404> fuck you Catonic, wake up!
07:23 <@aestetix> Shadow404: dude, just roll over onto his side of the bed
07:24 < Shadow404> im to tired, i rather use my laptop
07:24 < Shadow404> he snored all night long
07:24 < Shadow404> it was annoying
07:33 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:34 <@I-MOD> mr0ning!
07:34  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:34 <@Dolemite> The students are back.  We are once again surrounded by just barely no longer jailbait.
07:34 <@Dolemite> So I'm dumping you, aestetix
07:35 <@aestetix> awww
07:35 <@brimstone> typical
07:36 <@brimstone> leave a live long friend for something that just figured out how to wear a skirt
07:36 <@Dolemite> long friend?
07:36 <@brimstone> *life
07:36 <@Dolemite> aestetix was never a friend, just somebody that I let toss my salad
07:36 <@aestetix> Dolemite: what about Paris?
07:37 <@Dolemite> Even I would never fuck Paris Hilton
07:37 <@aestetix> So you chose me over Paris Hilton?
07:37 <@aestetix> That means something, man.
07:37 <@Dolemite> Less chance of catching an STD
07:37 <@Dolemite> At least you were safe
07:38 <@Dolemite> Even though you used the PN condoms
07:38 <@aestetix> Those don't work, btw.
07:38 <@aestetix> There should be a disclaimer on them that says "Girl not included"
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08:16 < ware> no
08:20  * brimstone slaps ware in the colloquial
08:23 <@aestetix> I'm amazed his colloquial hasn't fallen off yet
08:23 < ware> obaybee
08:24 < ware> Dolemite: students back ftw.
08:25 < ware> aestetix is such a fuckin fag rofl, i swear
08:25 < ware> but what else is new
08:25 <@aestetix> Hey, at least fags get women.
08:25 < ware> thought i was ignored biatch
08:26 < ware> fucktard
08:26 <@aestetix> I toggle it on and off based on how retarded you're being.
08:26 <@aestetix> Call it a time-out.
08:26 <@brimstone> "put me back on ignore! i have nothing to say!"
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08:28 < Shadow404> brimstone: diaf
08:28 < Shadow404> now
08:29 <@aestetix> diaf-ram
08:29 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, stfu
08:30 < Shadow404> I-MOD: go poke your eye out with a hot curling iron
08:30 <@I-MOD> already did
08:31 <@I-MOD> it was fun, you should try it
08:31 < Shadow404> so next time i see you, you are gonna be blind in one eye?
08:31 <@I-MOD> nope, got a new one
08:31 < Shadow404> hmm, can you legally drive with one eye working?
08:31 < Shadow404> hmm, for that matter, can deaf people drive?
08:31 <@oddball> yep
08:31 < Shadow404> hmm, for that matter, can deaf people drive?
08:31 <@I-MOD> yes
08:31 < Shadow404> on both accounts?
08:31 <@I-MOD> yes
08:32 < Shadow404> hmm, i would of thought not on the deaf part
08:32 <@I-MOD> why?
08:32 < Shadow404> safety
08:32 <@ladymerlin> my brother drives jsut fine
08:32 < Shadow404> ladymerlin: yeah, i never knew, thats why i was asking
08:32 <@aestetix> vagina
08:32 <@ladymerlin> if anything hes more aware of his suroundings then we are
08:32 < ware> phocus: whats up
08:32 < Shadow404> aestetix: cunt
08:32 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, we don't restrict driving based on whether you act like an idiot all the time
08:33 <@aestetix> I heard a new word yesterday
08:33 < ware> http://www.healthtech.net/images/homeani.gif
08:33 <@aestetix> slunt
08:33 < ware> i want 2 know
08:33 <@aestetix> slut + cunt = slunt
08:33 < ware> aestetix: that what your mom told you to call her while you were banging her? a dirty slunt?
08:34 <@aestetix> Did someone hear a noise?
08:34 <@aestetix> Like a mouse snuck into the channel or something.
08:34 < Shadow404> hey, his mom is a good fuck
08:34 < Shadow404> you know what we need a pn
08:34 < TheLightcosine> wow, the channel is really tumultuous this morning
08:35 < Shadow404> a thunderdome with rubber padded walls
08:35 < Shadow404> so aestetix and ware can fight it out
08:35 <@aestetix> Wait, why are you dragging me into this?
08:35 <@aestetix> ware is the one living in a toilet.
08:36 < phocus> ware chillin
08:36  * TheLightcosine slaps NSFW stickers on ware and aestetix's forheads
08:36 < Shadow404> dude, you just started arguin right from the start of the morning
08:36 < Shadow404> oh shit, boss just walked in with 8 nerf bazookas and loads of darts
08:36 < Shadow404> oh yeah!
08:37 < TheLightcosine> haha
08:37 < TheLightcosine> dude where do YOU work?
08:37 < Shadow404>  NOC
08:37 < Shadow404> *a NOC
08:37 < TheLightcosine> reminds me of the old Earthlink days
08:37 < Shadow404> TheLightcosine: internap
08:37 < TheLightcosine> ~google for internap
08:38 <+MxZBot> Google says internap is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internap or http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=inap or http://www.internap.com/
08:38 < ware> phocus: but what is the reason!
08:39 < ware> Shadow404: he can talk shit but he cant take it, hence why he left previously ;)
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08:39 < ware> and then this guy shows up
08:39 < TheLightcosine> shadow404: nice
08:39  * ware throws an apple @ Curbob 
08:39 < Shadow404> thx
08:39 < Shadow404> ware: who is he?
08:39 < Curbob> sup?
08:39 < phocus> the reason i, because we are all going to be old one day, or somethign like that, i dunno
08:39 < phocus> i didnt write it,
08:40 < phocus> lol
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08:40 < ware> haha nice
08:40 < ware> i dunno, he joined so i sed hallo
08:40 < phocus> :)
08:40 < ware> wuzzup, greetz, welcome, how goes
08:40 < ware> etc
08:41 < ware> dont think we have anyone from MS here
08:41 <@Dolemite> bah.  SQL Server is so fucking ass backwards.
08:41 < ware> flip it around and make it give you head
08:42 <@Dolemite> I'd settle for it taking standard SQL statements.
08:42 < phocus> We dont have a local group here, my boy threw an invite, so I figured i would come see what you guys are about
08:42 < phocus> Delemite what you working on , maybe i can give you a hand
08:43 <@Dolemite> I have inherited code from someone who wrote an app in .asp and Access
08:43 <@Dolemite> I'm converting it to .asp and SQL Server
08:43 <@Dolemite> eventually to php and mysql (hopefully)
08:44 <@Dolemite> rs.addnew keeps overwriting the last record in the database, instead of adding a new one
08:44 <@Dolemite> it's fucking ass backwards
08:44 < phocus> there are a few things diffenrt
08:44 < phocus> like the wild card modifieers
08:45 <@Dolemite> I'd love to just do a good old build up of the sql like I am comfortable with
08:45 < phocus> instead of using like '* you use '% and some stupid stuff
08:45 <@Dolemite> but you can't do an insert into tablename set field1=val1, field2=val2 ...
08:45 <@Dolemite> Uh, that's standard across all SQL, not just SQL Server
08:45 < phocus> no, mysql will do that
08:45 < phocus> but what you can do is an insert
08:45 < phocus> then use update with that syntax
08:46 < phocus> might make it faster for ya
08:46 <@Dolemite> ok, never mind
08:47 < ware> sql is dumb, use oracle
08:47 < ware> rofl
08:48 <@brimstone> troll
08:48 < ware> IP and Troll Hard
08:49 <@Dolemite> No, I'm just going to cheat and allow nulls on all of the fields other than the primary key
08:50 < TheLightcosine> lol
08:51  * brimstone has an oracle database for holding his shopping list
08:51 <@Dolemite> Apparently with .asp and recordsets you have to do an rs.addnew, *then* set all of your field values
08:51 < TheLightcosine> Dole: this may be a stupid question but couldn't you just user an isnert statement?
08:51 < TheLightcosine> insert even
08:51 <@Dolemite> If you've got a table of 60 fields, it's a pain in the ass to build the arrays
08:51 <@Dolemite> TheLightcosine : I could if I wasn't using SQL Server and its ugly syntax
08:52 <@Dolemite> I like code that is readable
08:52 < TheLightcosine> ah
08:52 < phocus> if the fields match in BOTH DB's
08:52 < phocus> you can use a loop
08:52 < phocus> and use rs(i)
08:52 <@Dolemite> So I'd rather not just populate and array of 60 fields / values and say "insert into table array(fields) values array(values)
08:52 < phocus> instead of rs("fieldname")
08:52 <@Dolemite> There are no "BOTH" db's
08:53 <@Dolemite> again, never mind
08:53 <@Dolemite> I have solved the issue, just in a way that I didn't want to
08:53 < phocus> ah
08:53 < phocus> k
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08:54  * ware hax Dolemite's tables
08:56 < TheLightcosine> Dole: so using rs.addnew is something to the effect of rs.addnew(values)?
08:57 < ware> 42
08:59 <@juice> hi
08:59 <@Dolemite> TheLightcosine : If you have 40 fields that don't allow null values, you can't just call rs.addnew unless you specify all of those values at that time
09:00 < TheLightcosine> right right, i'm just saying from the ponit of the syntax you were refering to, where you would have "Insert into table <fields> VALUES(<values>)" rs.addnew(<values>) would be all you'd need , yes?
09:01 <@Dolemite> rs.addnew array( fieldnames ), array( values )
09:01 < TheLightcosine> ah
09:01 <@Dolemite> much easier to follow when you have insert into table set field1=val1, field2=val2, field3=val3 ...
09:02 <@Dolemite> The fieldnames are next to the values.  Makes it a lot easier to debug.
09:02 < TheLightcosine> k, i was just wonderin. i'm jsut palying with ASP.net the first time myself so I wanted to see how you mgiht do soemthing differently than i
09:02 < ware> buy.com is a fucking cunt to return something
09:02 < ware> f them
09:02 < ware> in the a
09:02 <@Dolemite> Doesn't matter so much on small tables, matters a lot on large ones
09:02 < TheLightcosine> yeah i can see how it would
09:03 <@Dolemite> but that's SQL Server, not .asp that's the issue
09:03 < TheLightcosine> seeing as how i'm working with a 6 field recordset  oppsoed to 60 =P
09:03 <@Dolemite> If I had MySQL as the back end I could do the syntax the way I wanted
09:03 <@Dolemite> rs.open sql, db
09:03 < TheLightcosine> heh good luck, i coudln't get the .NET connector to work right for mySQL
09:03 < TheLightcosine> it would make the connection but then wouldn't recognize any of the data
09:04 <@brimstone> THAT'S RIGHT CUPS!! WHO'S YOUR DADDY!?!
09:04 < TheLightcosine> ...
09:05 < TheLightcosine> now i'm just scratching my head figuring out the ebst way to create a control to export this datagrid into a distributable format. i'
09:07 < TheLightcosine> i'm thinking of trying to use the Rendercontrol to write out the html string and input it into a quick email. I'd lvoe to be able to generate a temporary spreadsheet served up to the user, but I think that's beyond my reach
09:09 <@Dolemite> Fortunately I already have PHP talking to the MSSQL back end from a linux box
09:09 <@Dolemite> it's made it so much easier to deal with the new code since I was able to write a class library
09:10 <@Dolemite> it's the existing code that's giving me a headache
09:11  * TheLightcosine peers over at what he's doing then peers at what dolemite is doing..."like comparing a 3rd grade art project to a blueprint...lol"
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09:14 < TheLightcosine> well i'm still proud of my scribble heh, I have never done anything in asp.net before i started this project, so that's gotta count for something heh
09:18 <@aestetix> Um.
09:18 <@aestetix> Making PHP talk to MSSQL isn't too hard.
09:18 <@aestetix> Making it talk to Oracle is a royal pain in the ass.
09:20 < TheLightcosine> yeah but i don't know much about creating class libraries
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09:30 <@Dolemite> aestetix : I thought both MS SQL and Oracle were fairly trivial.
09:30 <@Dolemite> I've done both in the past
09:30 <@aestetix> Well, it's supposed to be.
09:30 <@aestetix> From my experience, it wasn't.
09:31 <@Dolemite> But the barrier here is that the system admin group tries to do everything through RHEL packages.
09:34 <@polerin> MSSQL is .. interesting sometimes
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09:35 <@polerin> not as well documented and has a couple missing functions (needs different escaping for example)
09:35 <@polerin> never tried oracle
09:39 <@aestetix> *sigh*
09:39 <@aestetix> ultimately I intend to convert AMD to odbc
09:39 <@aestetix> instead of oci8 like it was
09:39 <@aestetix> Although I suspect for some things, using mysql would severely slow it down
09:42 <@sdodson> Why? what advanced functions of oracle were you using?
09:46 < ware> 42
09:46 < ware> coworker goes on and on about a new job for a month
09:47 < ware> im hoping he takes it and encourages him to gtfo
09:47 < ware> and now he doesnt want to go cause 'its beneath him'
09:47  * Shadow404 kicks shadow404 kicks the life, the universe and everything out of ware
09:47 < Shadow404> :)
09:47 < ware> when its the same fucking job descript
09:47 < Shadow404> damn, must fix that script
09:47 < ware> read that out loud retard
09:47 < ware> O    O
09:47 < ware> |_  _|
09:47 < ware> |    | HEY Shadow404, LETS COCKSLAP!
09:47 < Shadow404> yeah, it was supposed to be /kick ware shadow404 kicks.....
09:48 < Shadow404> but the script took it as a command for the first part
09:48 <@aestetix> Man
09:48 < ware> lulz lrn2irc
09:48 <@aestetix> I just updated aestetix.net for the first time in a year and a half.
09:48 < Shadow404> lr2rightscript
09:48 < ware> and it still sucks
09:48 <@aestetix> Um.
09:49 <@aestetix> ware: are you PMSing or something? Jesus
09:49 < Shadow404> man, why do u hate each otehr so?
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09:49 <@polerin> aestetix: I've figured out parts of what I want to do with eclexia finally
09:49 <@Shadow404> we need a freaking thunderdome at PN
09:49 <@aestetix> eclexia?
09:49 <@aestetix> Refresh my memory?
09:49 <@polerin> my domain.
09:49 <@aestetix> Ahhh.
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09:49 <@aestetix> hahaha man-wget still works
09:49 <@aestetix> www.man-wget.com redirects to textfiles.com
09:50 <@aestetix> polerin: what's the plan?
09:50 < opfor> +
09:51 <@aestetix> FUCK
09:51 <@aestetix> I missed the zombie nazi indie movie!
09:51 <@polerin> hehe
09:52 <@rhia> http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/permalink/the_truth_about_rainbows/     sfw
09:52 <@polerin> aestetix: just got a phone confrence, but basicly I think I'm going to go talk to people, and put the interviews on the site.  nobody important, just to get a peek into other peoples lives
09:53 <@rhia> um, just because YOU never noticed ground level rainbows doesn't mean they didn't happen until just recently and thus have to be caused by HAARP
09:54 <@rhia> obviously, you are FAR too observant and skilled in the scientific process for it to be anything but a massive conspiracy
09:55 < ware> rhia: YEAH!
09:55 <@rhia>  ... can we please have an open season on idiocy?  one day a year?
09:56 <@polerin> hehe
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09:56 <@aestetix> polerin: cool
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09:57 <@polerin> aestetix: I wandered around downtown and took some pictures..  I think I'm a horribly depressing photographer :P   not that great at it either
09:58 <@rhia> polerin: a good photographer keeps about 1 in 200 shots as "passable"
09:58 <@rhia> they just click a LOT
09:59 < Curbob> stop taking photos of just homeless people and you may not be so depressing ;)
09:59 <@polerin> I took about 100
09:59 <@polerin> Curbob: it's not just the homeless people
09:59 <@polerin> lol
09:59 < Curbob> or closeups of bricks
10:00 <@polerin> didn't really :P
10:00 <@polerin> only posted three of the 6-8 I'm likely to post.
10:02 <@polerin> http://leainshadow.deviantart.com/art/ladder-of-stone-95214992
10:03 <@polerin> course, the next one was taken from the same position...
10:03 <@polerin> http://leainshadow.deviantart.com/art/Sleeping-on-a-bed-of-sold-rock-95214508
10:03 < wrench___> ware: whatup dude...what's up with your scoot? you going riding with us soon?
10:04 < Curbob> damn, i was jokin about homeless people haHAHA
10:04 < ware> man i havent been to hq to work on it.. it should be running at the moment
10:04 <@polerin> I wasn't
10:04 <@polerin> :)
10:04 < ware> i think next time im there im going to put it together and see what it runs like
10:04 < ware> yall have a good ride this weekend?
10:04 < wrench___> ware: yeah man ...you should come this Sunday.
10:05 <@polerin> but even the first one, I took it and immediatly worked on the levels to bring out the stains
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10:05 < ware> ill get it back together this week and see how it runs, tho i doubt changing the sprokets and stuff made the rev noise go away
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10:06 < wrench___> ware: f the noise..you'll have all winter to figure that out. Ride that mamma jamma while you can.
10:06 <@Shadow404> woot, going to seattle and canada for 2 weeks starting the 26th
10:06 < Curbob> I like them, better than I could do
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10:07 < ware> hahaha
10:09 < wrench___> ware: if the noise bothers you...ride behind SD--you won't hear a damn thing!
10:11 < ware> rofl yeah i bet that thing is mean
10:11 < ware> where'd yall ride around at?
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10:12 < wrench___> we went out hwy 109 to Portland, TN. It was a nice ride.
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10:20 < ware> poll of the day:
10:20 < ware> what is your default browser's homepage?
10:20 < Curbob> google
10:20 < ware> ill start, google.com/ig but i want to change
10:21 <+MaxieZ> maxiez.com
10:23 <@brimstone> about:blank
10:23 < TheLightcosine> google/ig
10:23 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> google/ig
10:24 < ware> i hate that they changed to the new layout
10:24 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: http://tinyurl.com/63nuh7
10:24 < ware> the sidebar is a freakin waste
10:24 <@rhia> mine's just the generic google search, not the "just for little ol ME" page
10:25 < MudFlap> about:blank
10:25 <@SkyDog_> ware: The ride was short, but nice. You need to get yours together for next sunday.
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10:30 < Curbob> I've been looking at a Vespa, or a smart car for work travel
10:31 <@SkyDog_> Curbob: Mudflap's new ride is sweet. about $2300, if I recall.
10:31 <@SkyDog_> Less than a vespa, and just as stylish.
10:32 < Curbob> i liked the look of it, I like the one's that look like the 50's scooters
10:33 <@Evilpig> I knew that dell link was mistake
10:34 <@SkyDog_> which dell link?
10:36 <@Evilpig> the 1tb drives for $110
10:37 <@Evilpig> they are back to $200 today
10:37 < Curbob> do you have to have a special drivers license for the scooters?
10:38 <@Shadow404> yeah, its still a motorbike
10:38 <@unixfag> I've started seeing smartcars here in Memphis, but haven't heard anything flattering about them so far
10:38 <@SkyDog_> For that size, I just think an operator's license.
10:38 <@GodFix> I thought if it was 50cc or smaller, you didn't
10:38 < Curbob> wondered if it had to do with size or just it's a moterbike.. thanks
10:38 <@Shadow404> what is the vespa then?
10:38 <@GodFix> as long as you have a class D
10:39 < Curbob> i think alot are like 150cc
10:39 < opfor> If its under 50cc you do not have to have license.
10:39 <@Shadow404> so if the vespa is a 150cc then you need a motorcycle license?
10:40 < opfor> yes
10:40 <@Shadow404> damn, that would be an easy bike to pass the test on
10:40 <@Shadow404> i passed it with a 99% on my top heavy vfr
10:40 < opfor> The test is easy anyways.
10:41 < ware> i took the safety class and that test was much more involving that the test you got
10:41 < ware> ours was like a 6part thing with scores on each part
10:41 <@Shadow404> the georgia motorcycle test is 5 stations and a road test
10:42 < opfor> Go down the block turn around and do not fall down.
10:43  * ware pushes opfor over
10:44 <@Shadow404> opfor: nah, it was harder than that
10:45 <@Shadow404> that did slow speed 90 angle turn. emergency swerve / breaking test
10:45 <@Shadow404> and a few other things
10:45 <@Shadow404> then a 20 minute ride on the street and highway
10:45 < opfor> Shadow404: Not in Tennessee or Oklahoma.
10:46 <@oddball> it's not even 11am MOnday, and I'm already brewing the "calming" tea... it's going to be a long week.
10:46 <@Shadow404> opfor: really. what do they do there?
10:46 < opfor> Go down a block turn around come back thats it.
10:47 <@Shadow404> wtf
10:47 <@Shadow404> wow, thats sad
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11:07 <@dc0de> morning all
11:13 < TheLightcosine> morning dc0de
11:13 <@dc0de> morning.
11:13 <@SkyDog_> yo.
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11:16 <@SkyDog_> Should I be eating Chocolate covered espresso beans and drinking a mocha at the same time?
11:17 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: of course!
11:17 < TheLightcosine> If you want a coronary sure
11:17 <@dc0de> and don't forget to chew on some concrete for rougage... :)
11:17 <@poiupoiu> what's life without surprises?
11:17 <@SkyDog_> Heh. I'll remember that later on today...
11:17 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: the key is, knowing when to switch to meth... :)
11:18 <@SkyDog_> My doctor told me I needed more roughage. Then his nurse tied me up and beat the shit outta me.
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11:23 < TheLightcosine> bloody alienware is sure taking their sweet motherloving time assemblin my laptop
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11:41 <@wizardpc> Yay my sister got engaged!
11:41 <@SkyDog_> Is he white this time?
11:41 <@SkyDog_>  :)
11:41 < ware> rofl
11:41 < TheLightcosine> ouch.
11:41 <@SkyDog_> I used to hear that from my family all the time. Just a little joke.
11:42 <@wizardpc> he's whiter than Al Gore
11:42 < TheLightcosine> he said white, not stodgy and irrelevant =P
11:42 <@SkyDog_> I have no problems with interracial stuff. I pay $14.95 a month to see it on the internet.
11:42 <@SkyDog_> DOH! good one light...
11:42 <@someninjamaster> 14.95 you lose at the internet
11:42 <@Evilpig> $14.95...  big spender
11:42 <@wizardpc> and, since it's my sister, his family has more money than god
11:43 <@SkyDog_> HAHA!!!
11:43 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Still working to spend half my paycheck on pron like you... :)
11:43 < ware> :P
11:43 <@wizardpc> hey SkyDog_, there's this thing on teh interwebz called bittorrent
11:43 < ware> are there defcon pics up yet?
11:43 <@wizardpc> you should check it out
11:44 <@Evilpig> it isn't hard when you get a little paycheck
11:44 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: AH. good deal.
11:44  * tdc_vga wrote the azureus bittorrent client (now called Vuze) heh
11:44 < tdc_vga> =)
11:44 <@SkyDog_> wizardpc: Heh. wonder if Vandy would mind me using their fat pipe for downloading pron?
11:44 <@wizardpc> wait WHAT?
11:45 <@SkyDog_> tdc_vga: Props man!
11:45 < TheLightcosine> bloat!
11:45 < tdc_vga> i wrote the original --non-bloated version
11:45 < TheLightcosine> ah
11:45 < TheLightcosine> k ;)
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11:45 < tdc_vga> funny a lot of my code is still in the core... they raised like 40M off that project
11:45 < TheLightcosine> vuze is still a good client
11:46 < TheLightcosine> it just has a lot of extra crap i don't want or need
11:46 < tdc_vga> i left early after writing the initial base, naming it, all the graphics, etc. and went to law school, doh!
11:46 < tdc_vga> yeah i stopped working with Azureus when the other co-founder added an IRC client to the app... hahah
11:46 <@Evilpig> screw vuze.  uTorrent all the way
11:46 < tdc_vga> Evilpig++
11:47 < tdc_vga> they tried to sue me for the name azureus... which is why it's called Vuze now
11:47 < TheLightcosine> now write me a custom bittorrent client that will make use of multiple wireless NICs homed off different networks so i can elach from all my enighbors =)
11:47 < tdc_vga> hahahahah, they realized they weren't going to win so they just changed the name of their commercial venture
11:47 <@Evilpig> uTorrent is the first and only bitttorent client for windows that actually works behind a firewall for me.  
11:48 < tdc_vga> TheLightcosine: i actually did write something like that, but i've never released it.
11:48 < TheLightcosine> utorrent is the only one that didn't give me a ehadache to configure
11:48 < TheLightcosine> oooooh
11:48 < tdc_vga> i should release that code soem day, heh
11:48 < tdc_vga> i had a good name for it too... Oggr
11:48  * TheLightcosine runs off to build a box of nothing but d-link NICs and hard drives =P
11:49 < tdc_vga> had some nice logos worked up of ogres and everything hahahah
11:49 < wrench___> tdc_vga: that's awesome! props man.
11:49 < tdc_vga> yeah it was basically bittorrent + a botnet controller, heh
11:49 < tdc_vga> you'd "zombie out" and build private swarms inside public swarms
11:50 < tdc_vga> so your single machine acted as 10, heh
11:50 < tdc_vga> n = 10 in that case, obviously hahahah
11:50  * wizardpc remembers stacey, and is therefor somewhat skeptical
11:51 < tdc_vga> http://www.vuze.com/Contributors.html
11:51 < tdc_vga> if you'd like verification, heh
11:51 < tdc_vga> #2 on the list is myself
11:53 < tdc_vga> Vuze is such a trip
11:53  * wizardpc is no longer skeptical
11:53 < tdc_vga> 40M and can't make a dime...
11:53 < tdc_vga> http://www.vuze.com/Contributors.html
11:53 < tdc_vga> damnit
11:53 < tdc_vga> http://www.vuze.com/Management.html
11:53 <@NotLarry>  Evilpig you there?
11:54 < tdc_vga> they have a lot of talent but --come on-- what kinda idiot would pay for a BT client, etc.
11:54 <@Evilpig> yes
11:54 < tdc_vga> and their idea of competing with youtube is retarded, lol
11:54 <@Evilpig> I saw your new jellybean at the house this morning.  was that you or the notwife?
11:54 < tdc_vga> if youtube isn't making money ... vuze sure as hell isn't
11:54 < TheLightcosine> yeah! i mean the whole ponit of bittorrent is to NOT pay for things
11:54 < TheLightcosine> er..uhh... i mean
11:55 <@wizardpc> lol
11:55 <@poiupoiu> you mean to distribute your linux iso's around using a fancy method
11:55 < tdc_vga> hahahah vuze added the idea i came up with 3 years ago FINALLY
11:55 < tdc_vga> "friend bandwidth" sharing
11:56 < tdc_vga> and p2p goes social... funny some guys at harvard wrote a paper on the idea shortly after. bout time someone released something publically
11:56 < tdc_vga> just never seemed like a good idea to release a new BT client while in law school, heh
11:56 <@wizardpc> I *love* your idea for ringing all cell phones at once in iraq
11:56 <@wizardpc> that's fucking brilliant
11:56 < tdc_vga> how lawnmower man
11:59 < TheLightcosine> well it's quitting time
11:59 < TheLightcosine> time to head for home
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12:00 < ware> lolwut
12:00 < ware> its noon, getchur ass to work
12:01 <@wizardpc> maybe he works for Dolemite?
12:01 < tdc_vga> Dolemite!
12:03 < ware> nop
12:04 < ware> sec now
12:04 < ware> WRONG WINDOW SOZ MAH BAD
12:09 < tdc_vga> heh... i love an ol' 90 cmd
12:10 < tdc_vga> SkyDog_: would a session on copyrights be useful?
12:11 < tdc_vga> the wardriving stuff looks pretty easy to present on... should be interesting at the very least, heh
12:12 < ware> BLAH!
12:12 < ware> when you change a firewall be sure to copy all the routes over
12:12 < tdc_vga> ware: ?
12:12 < ware> or your remote access is teh fux0rd
12:12 < tdc_vga> well, of course.. heh
12:13 < ware> this is ATTN: my roomie
12:13 < ware> who has left me with no access to homebase
12:13 < ware> mah data, itz lonely
12:13 < ware> which.... means.... SUBWAY! bbiab
12:27 <@Evilpig> think I am gonna go get some chinese and then buy some fence for notlarry
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12:28 <@aestetix> http://www.angryflower.com/atlass.gif
12:34 < tdc_vga> heh, i just read Atlas Shrugged
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12:35 <@polerin> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3735725&mesg_id=3737989
12:35 < ware> rofl
12:35 <@polerin> yeah that's pretty fucked up
12:35 < ware> just got back from lunch and a soda truck got in a wreck
12:35 < ware> there were sodas all over the 4way
12:36 < tdc_vga> lol
12:36 < ware> i didnt have enough time to snap a pic tho :(
12:36 <@polerin> seriously.. arrested for knowing the voting laws
12:36 < tdc_vga> crazy shit happens out there.
12:36 < tdc_vga> be back in a few.. off to Moe's
12:36 < tdc_vga> need my fix, heh
12:46 <@aestetix> tdc_vga: I read it years ago
12:46 <@aestetix> Then I got better :)
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12:52 <@wizardpc> polerin: arrested for being a dick. Disorderly Conduct, which means he was SCREAMING at the election judges.
12:53 <@Shadow404> even if your getting screamed at in that case, you must not yell back
12:53 <@Shadow404> as soon as you do, you get disorderly conduct
12:53 <@Shadow404> i would of walked out, called the police
12:53 <@wizardpc> he could have very easily walked outside, gotten the election board on the phone, and had THEM scream at the election judges
12:53 <@Shadow404> showed the police the document and asked them to escort me inside to talk to the electoral judge in charge
12:53 <@critch> wizardpc: rissobeying their orders would also be disorderly conduct. They are instructed to keep control over the area.
12:54 <@wizardpc> i mean the guy sounds like he was TRYING to get arrested
12:54 <@Shadow404> also called the board on the phone after the police as well
12:54 <@Shadow404> yeah, he shouldnt of pushed that hard
12:54 <@Shadow404> should of got official help before raising the disturbance he did
12:55 <@wizardpc> he put enought forethought into calling the EB beforehand and getting the name of someone to contact, forchissakes
12:55 <@critch> wizardpc: and sometimes being arrested for that is better for all. In being arrested, he brings a lot of eyes on the process. It may well keep those election judges from keeping that position.
12:57 <@critch> I don't fault the police so much. After all we don't want the police to become the judges.
12:57 < ware> wouldnt doubt he/she/it/more than likely a tranny was trying to cause a scene
12:58 < ware> democratic underground? in missouri theyre democrats cause theyre fags and want to piss people off
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13:00 < ware> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0307062sheep4.html
13:02 <@wizardpc> http://www.kctribune.com/article.cfm?articleID=18250
13:03 < ware> 8===D
13:03 < ware> err wrong chan
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13:06 <@ShadowHntr> heh
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13:08 < ware> you know every time i get kicked a kitten gets masturbated on
13:08 < ware> err..
13:08 < ware> wait hows that go
13:08 <@ShadowHntr> ware: good for the kittens. :P
13:08 <@Dolemite> ASP blows.  On a brighter note, though, the lunchroom was full of fine young things today.
13:08 <@ShadowHntr> Dolemite: don't spend all lunchtime chasing tail, though... ;)
13:08  * ware pulls up the vandycandy cams
13:08 <@ShadowHntr> lol
13:11 <@polerin> wizardpc: actually his son got the election board on the phone
13:12 <@polerin> the police and the election officials declined to talk to them
13:12 <@critch> polerin: wizards comment was that he called the EB before he went to vote.
13:13 <@critch> the son called during the incident
13:13 <@polerin> critch: I know that, but he also said the guy could have walked outside and called the EB officials.  The guys son DID that.
13:14 <@polerin> and the police refused to talk to them, as did the local oficials :P
13:14 <@critch> correct. I think getting arrested for it was the right thing to do.
13:14 <@critch> The police should not get involved in that, they are not judges
13:14 <@polerin> yeah.  I wouldn't have given up on it either... it's bs
13:15 <@critch> I doubt there are any laws they could have charged the pollworkers with at that moment. It would have required a after the fact charge. That charge may still be looming too.
13:15 <@wizardpc> I agree that he had the legal right to vote with the documents he presented, but I believe he INTENTIONALLY caused a disruption so he could cry disenfranchisement
13:16 <@wizardpc> which wasnt necessary
13:16 <@polerin> yeah.  I still think that it's bs that the police basicly enforced the violation of someone's rights.
13:16 <@rhia> eh, if it had happened to me before, i'd try to get my neighbors, or a local attorney famiar with the state constitution to attend with me the 2nd time
13:16 <@polerin> wizardpc: I don't know about that...  I've seen it too many times where I simply stand up for my rights (Ie not having to roll down my window all the way at a traffic stop) where officials take it as a personal insult
13:17 <@critch> or better yet, enlist an off duty police officer. Basically as a court sympathetic witness
13:17 <@wizardpc> so completely unrelated to this incident, could someone explain to me the problem with showing a photo ID to vote?
13:17 <@polerin> wizardpc: yeah, not everyone has one, and they cost money
13:17 <@aestetix> Hey, anyone good at handling pres?
13:17 <@aestetix> press*
13:17 <@wizardpc> esp regarding georgia, where the state would give you a photo ID for free?
13:17 <@critch> It adds yet one more hurdle to getting to excersize the right to vote.
13:17 <@polerin> yep
13:18 <@critch> wizardpc: and do you belive that the photo ID actually makes anything more secure?
13:18 <@polerin> hehe
13:18 <@wizardpc> um yes
13:18 <@polerin> or that it's a serious problem?
13:18 <@polerin> I'd worry about getting auditable voting processes first
13:18 <@polerin> :P
13:20 <@critch> wizardpc: I also believe the photo ID requirements are a way to try and push a national ID card. A way to push us further down the line to requireing photo or more ID for any travel.
13:20 <@wizardpc> it just seems silly to me that I have to get a permit, pay for a background check, and get training to excersize something thats actually IN the Constitution, but asking someone to prove who they are when voting (which IS NOT in there) is some sort of huge burden
13:21 <@wizardpc> but people will always find something to whine about, i guess
13:22 <@critch> I am not sure many here will argue that you should have to have paid and all that for your carry permit.
13:25 <@polerin> wizardpc: actually voting is in the constitution (15th amendment)
13:25 < wrench___> yeah...getting the carry permit is an enormous pita.
13:26 <@polerin> but I would say that being able to vote is just as important if not more so than the ability to cary a gun
13:27 <@polerin> because voting can keep you from needing to turn the weapon you own against your government in revolution
13:27 <@critch> wizardpc: a odd thing to notice, in the article you linked, Lindsey wants to portray himself as not violent and not a threat, but the picture they use is shot with arms crossed and from below waist level to make him appear bigger and more masculine than he might be.
13:27 <@wizardpc> nope. it just says you cant selectively apply standards
13:27 <@polerin> ~oh also, the 24th amendment, prohibits the government from requiring payment of a tax
13:28 <@polerin> which requiring a photo id could (and has) been considered
13:28 <@wizardpc> teh .gov can just say "no one gets to vote" and theres nothing constitutionally there to stop them
13:28 < tdc_vga> just read that voting story... what a mess...
13:28 <@wizardpc> http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#vote
13:29 < tdc_vga> i've had crap like that happen, it's such BS
13:29 <@wizardpc> http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS241&q=constitutional+right+to+vote
13:29 <@wizardpc> find a constitutional right to vote, and I'll eat my shoe
13:30 <@polerin> ;p
13:30 <@polerin> wizardpc: the 24th applies here, and so even though it's not a right to vote period, it is in the constitution
13:30 <@polerin> (concerning ID's
13:31  * rhia feels old
13:31 <@rhia> when i was in middle school learning all this shit, it was pressed as a Duty to vote
13:31 <@wizardpc> which it is
13:31  * polerin nods
13:31 <@polerin> total agreement
13:32 <@polerin> I've voted in every major (ie 2 years) since I was 18.
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13:32 <@wizardpc> in other news, some crazy guy kidnamed a social worker and tried to take his son at Smyrna High School:
13:32 <@polerin> haven't done locals, and have felt the shame for not having paid attention to it
13:32 <@wizardpc> http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080818/NEWS01/80818044
13:32 <@wizardpc> kidnapped
13:33 <@critch> if voting is a duty, and especially if it was considered that in the time of the constitution, then that explains the limitations, and/or inclusions of people to vote yet no mention of it. Of course seems odd they felt the need to make free speech specially protected, but not voting.
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13:34 < TheLightCosine> god, I thought PA drivers were the worst, they got nothin on Tennesse
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13:35 < tdc_vga> http://www.flickr.com/photos/luckypimp/267332697/ (not my photo)
13:35 < tdc_vga> critch: you have to remember the masses were never supposed to be voting in the US
13:36 < tdc_vga> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College
13:36 < tdc_vga> =)
13:36 <@rhia> they Wanted the People to mean "the smart, educated landowners" basically
13:36 < TheLightCosine> heh
13:36 <@polerin> btw wizardpc, the constitution may not explicity state a right to vote, but the phrase itself "right to vote" appears in it several times.
13:36 <@rhia> the rest of the rabble just kinda benefited by proxy
13:36 < TheLightCosine> who do you think the sons of Liberty were?
13:37 < TheLightCosine> they were all the well educated upper class
13:37 < TheLightCosine> even thoguh the first shots were fired by poor farmers
13:37 < tdc_vga> first shots were  by the spanish i believe, heh
13:38 <@critch> tdc_vga: the electoral college is just for the president. The rest of the government is by election by the masses.
13:38 < tdc_vga> critch: yes, we now have a direct vote on non-presidental elections... but took  long enough to get even that, heh
13:39 < TheLightCosine> let's face it, the system broke down as soon as Washington stepped down, from there it was all back alley politics
13:39 < tdc_vga> it wasn't before? heh
13:39 < ware> HEH
13:40 < ware> ##politics is a great chan btw
13:40 <@Dolemite> What we need
13:40 <@Dolemite> is a chair
13:41 < TheLightCosine> an electric chair?
13:41 <@critch> wizardpc: Wouldn't the 9th amendment essentially be what is needed for saying we retain the right to vote?
13:41 < TheLightCosine> *eg*
13:41 <@critch> wizardpc: Maybe the 10th, delegates it to the states.
13:42 < tdc_vga> 14th is used for integration to the states
13:45 < TheLightCosine> man, when did Torvalds become such an angry man
13:45 < TheLightCosine> first the masturbating monkey's comment, now a 2 page rant on network world
13:46 < tdc_vga> he's always been pretty grumpy
13:46 < tdc_vga> not as much a Reiser though (pre-murdering even)
13:47 < TheLightCosine> heh
13:47 < TheLightCosine> yeah well if Torvalds was gunna murder anyone it'd be RMS
13:48 < TheLightCosine> the way Stallman keeps sleighting him at every chance he gets
13:48 < eryc> http://thismight.be/offensive/uploads/2008/08/17/image/241771_Blatant%20Gold%20Farming.jpg
13:49 < tdc_vga> stallman is a trip
13:50 <@Shadow404> why is that a bad thing eryc?
13:50 < TheLightCosine> yeah, i mean the guy is brilliant, but he's an asshole about it
13:50 <@I-MOD> lol
13:50 <@I-MOD> > link
13:51 < TheLightCosine> ware:you still here?
13:52 < ware> alwayz
13:53 < ware> i lurk homie
13:53 < TheLightCosine> any new word on that whole VLAN party idea?
13:53 < ware> yeah, its tenative for end of september
13:54 < ware> ive got a page together that im going to publish soon with details
13:54 < TheLightCosine> r0x0r
13:54 < ware> it has the potential for much win
13:55 < TheLightCosine> anything solid on what the game o chocie will be?
13:55 < ware> UT3 more than likely and Steam games
13:55 < ware> CS:S / TF2
13:55 < ware> we could rock some Quake3 too
13:56 < TheLightCosine> hmm i dun have CS:S, is it changed much from the old half-life mod days?
13:57 < ware> oh yea, since they went to the halflife2 engine its a new game
13:57 < TheLightCosine> great, which means i prolly sux0r at it now =P
13:58 < ware> i havent played it in awhile but its just like any other fps, i will own your proverbial socks with my pwn sauz
13:58 < TheLightCosine> heh, i used to be teh best at CS back in the day, but that was cus i played it in unhealthy doses
13:58 <@critch> ware: keep your sauce away from my socks. I like them clean
13:59 < TheLightCosine> kind of like how when Star Craft 2 comes out i don't plan on sleeping much for the entire year of 2009
13:59 < wrench___> TheLightCosine: I heard that!
13:59 < ware> yuh
13:59 < ware> we played in CAL and a few other leagues
14:00 < TheLightCosine> the guys at gamestop assure me December 3rd is a legitimate release date
14:00 < wrench___> I need to get the networking working with WinXP running on vmware server so I'll be ready.
14:00 < wrench___> If they ever release it that is
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14:01 < TheLightCosine> they need to stop wasting their time with Diablo 3 and finish SC2, i couldn't give a shit about Diablo
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14:01 < ware> diablo looks cool tho
14:01 <@Evilpig> screw you hippie.  d3 is better
14:01 <@wizardpc> wrench___: huh?
14:01 <@Evilpig> sc2 is for the koreans
14:01 <@ShadowHntr> soul calibur 2?
14:01 < TheLightCosine> evilpig: yes you go play your one button based game
14:01 < ware> *facepalm*
14:02 < TheLightCosine> go enjoy a rousing game of pong while you are at it =)
14:02 < ware> Stanky Cunt 2
14:02 < ware> ShadowHntr: StarCraft 2
14:02 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
14:02 <@Evilpig> they need to announce the other 3000 blizzcon tickets already
14:02 < wrench___> wizardpc: I just set up vmware server so that I can run WinXP in preparation for StarCraft 2.
14:02 <@Evilpig> TheLightCosine: wow has more than one button.  and I enjoyed starcraft but diablo is in much need a sequel first
14:03 < TheLightCosine> er? who said anything about WoW?
14:03 <@wizardpc> ah. I run vmware on a win2k3 server, and winxp's networking works with no problems after a base install
14:03 <@Evilpig> you said one button game.  I primarily play wow.  and that is more than one button
14:03 <@wizardpc> so I was confused as to why you were having problems
14:03 < TheLightCosine> i meant Diablo
14:04 < TheLightCosine> Diablo 2 was jsut non stop button clciking
14:04 <@Evilpig> it was also a hell of a lot of fun
14:04 < TheLightCosine> and besides, I've been waiting 10 friggin years for SC2 man, when did D2 come out?
14:04 <@Evilpig> bout the same time
14:04 < wrench___> wizardpc: sweet. My switch died when I was setting up vmware server. I replaced the switch..but haven't gone back in to see if the networking works. So yeah the problem was a switch not vmware.
14:05 < TheLightCosine> hmm... 2000, okay yeah, so diablo is in need of a sequel pretty badly too
14:05 < TheLightCosine> still
14:05 <@wizardpc> ah okay
14:06 <@wizardpc> holy shit Morpheus is gonna be on CSI
14:06 <@Evilpig> Pentium® 233 or equivalent  <-- requirements for d2
14:06 < TheLightCosine> lol
14:06 <@Evilpig> Pentium 90 or higher  <-- requirements for sc
14:07 < tdc_vga> we should do some game dev at the HC, heh
14:07 < tdc_vga> one of those build a game in 24h things, that stuff is fun
14:07 < TheLightCosine> i still remember the good ol days of original Diablo online
14:07 <@Evilpig> and they are both still heavily played.  which is the sad part
14:07 < tdc_vga> TheLightCosine: when you'd dupe everything cause it was so easy to hack, heh
14:07 < TheLightCosine> Evilpig: well look at the garbage they put out now
14:07 < TheLightCosine> tdc_vga: yup
14:07 < TheLightCosine> remember Dark Forces 2 : Jedi Knight?
14:07 < TheLightCosine> that game was so easy to fuck with
14:08 < tdc_vga> heh
14:08 <@Evilpig> I like some of the garbage out now.  like serious sam.  
14:08 <@Evilpig> that was fun to get drunk and just blow each other up
14:08 < tdc_vga> i haven't played a video game in a LONG time
14:08 <@Evilpig> wtf.  loser.
14:08 < TheLightCosine> ooh wife made me lunch
14:08 < TheLightCosine> bbiaf!
14:08 < tdc_vga> i just dont get into em... tried to play the new C&C, cause i loved that franchise, and i got bored in 2 days
14:08 <@Evilpig> get a ds or a wii
14:08 < tdc_vga> i have a wii
14:09 <@wizardpc> tdc_vga: you woulndt want to spend 24hrs in the neighborhood the HC is located in
14:09 <@wizardpc> :D
14:09 < tdc_vga> video games weren't fun after i learned how to program em, heh
14:09  * tdc_vga lives in E. Nashville --no worries
14:09  * wizardpc hands tdc_vga a flak jacket
14:09 < tdc_vga> yeah the guy who got shot was like 1000 ft from my place
14:10 <@wizardpc> which one?
14:10 <@wizardpc> seriously, it's like a twice a week thing
14:10 < tdc_vga> i was up late working (i live on the 3rd floor) and heard a heli flying around, search lights, saw some red/blue flashing
14:10 < tdc_vga> i was like "wtf is going on.." (thought i was being raided, heh)
14:10 <@SkyDog_> wizardpc: Nobody messes with me at the HC...
14:10 <@wizardpc> my sister lives at 9th and Shelby. she calls that Tuesdays
14:11 <@wizardpc> well but you're a BMF
14:11 < tdc_vga> yeah my friend got mugged a few weeks ago right by my house, heh
14:11 < tdc_vga> i live off Russell / 10th, in the "nicer" areas i'm told...
14:11 < tdc_vga> i haven't been shot up and i'm definitely out and about at 3am a lot, heh
14:11 < tdc_vga> so that's a plus
14:12 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: you look like an ogre in the dark.  who would mess with an ogre?
14:12 <@wizardpc> dont tempt fate
14:12 <@SkyDog_> Ogre? I'm not that bad. jebus.
14:12 <@Evilpig> in the dark.  you're just this big hulking shadow
14:12 <@SkyDog_> I'll smile and be nice to you while I an feeding you your arm...
14:12 < tdc_vga> oh jebus
14:13 <@Evilpig> I need to replace this fucking moron in missouri
14:14 <@Evilpig> he is making my life hell
14:14 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : That's unfair.  The only thing of Skydog's you've seen in the dark is the back of his head.
14:14 <@Evilpig> daddy please stop?
14:14 <@SkyDog_> Sigh. I forgot about that joke. Bout time it came back around.
14:14 <@wizardpc> 10th & russell: oh you're like 2 blocks from my sister. I drive by your place when I'm leaving
14:15 <@SkyDog_> Maybe I shouldn't put tha ton ashirt like I just said to myself.
14:15 <@Evilpig> lol
14:15 <@aestetix> I don't know what's worse.
14:15 <@aestetix> Getting upset that my internet radio is skipping.
14:15 <@aestetix> Or glancing at it and realizing it's playing Paula Abdul.
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14:17 < tdc_vga> aestetix: that is a tough one
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14:19 < tdc_vga> TCA 39-14-602(b)(1): (1)  Accesses any computer, computer system, or computer network commits a Class C misdemeanor. Operating a computer network in such a way as to allow anonymous access to that network shall constitute implicit consent to access under this part;
14:19 < tdc_vga> interesting
14:20 <@critch> wizardpc: you will probably enjoy this. http://www.3dweb.no/galleri/stuestolbm/bilder/anim1.swf
14:27 < tdc_vga> cows don't eat hay, heh
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14:35 < tdc_vga> anyone following the Yo Frankie! project?
14:35 < tdc_vga> http://www.yofrankie.org/ (formerly Apricot)?
14:38 < TheLightCosine> what is the HC?
14:39 < ware> HackerConsortium
14:40 < ware> tdc_vga: cows eat hay..?
14:41 < tdc_vga> ware: it was in that song that's linked above... i guess they do eat hay but prefer fresh grass, heh
14:41 <@oddball> critch: thanks, it's been over a year since I've had that song stuck in my head.
14:43 <@SkyDog_> TheLightCosine: http://www.hackerconsortium.com  gallery.hackerconsortium.com
14:43 < ware> tdc_vga: ROFL awesome
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14:45 < TheLightCosine> ah, so that's like where all the cool kinds hang out then SkyDog_?
14:45 <@Evilpig> skydog isn't part of the cool kids
14:46 < ware> chickenz in choppaz! dun mess
14:46 <@SkyDog_> TheLightCosine: Somewhat. From what I have been able to see, we're the third largest not for profit hacker/maker shop in the US.
14:46 <@SkyDog_> Tech Shop doesn't count. Fuckers.
14:46 <@nachoguy> and Sky puppy isn't bitter about it at all, either
14:47 <@Dolemite> GOD DAMN ASP FUCKING FUCKER FUCKSTICK
14:47 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: having fun with that system?
14:47 <@Dolemite> NO
14:47 <@SkyDog_> nachoguy: I talked to the guy that did techshop. It's cool, and I wish I had his funding.
14:47 < TheLightCosine> lol, what now Dolemite?
14:48 <@Dolemite> Still having issues with the recordsets having no data beyond the first few fields
14:48 < TheLightCosine> so how often are you people actually at this HC and how come the meetings are at Vandy instead of there?
14:48 <@Evilpig> I blame NotLarry 
14:48  * tdc_vga blames Bill Gates
14:48 < tdc_vga> when is the next meeting?
14:49 <@SkyDog_> TheLightCosine: The meetings you speak of are actually Nashville2600 mettings.
14:49 <@SkyDog_> THe HC is a standalone project.
14:49 < TheLightCosine> ah i see
14:49 < tdc_vga> SkyDog_: the Ethiopian place shut down on Division, lol... maybe you should pick hahahah.
14:49 <@SkyDog_> tdc_vga: First friday of the month.
14:49 <@SkyDog_> fifth of september.
14:49 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: how do you know we like him?  maybe they are on the second friday of the month
14:49 < tdc_vga> Sept 5th then... good i have some damn project going on that day so i'll actually be in town, heh
14:50 <@SkyDog_> So its shut down. hmmm. sushi? :)
14:50 < tdc_vga> SkyDog_: sure... i can almost always eat at a sushi joint
14:50 < tdc_vga> though nashville has had some interesting surprises for me, heh
14:50 <@SkyDog_> Coolness.
14:50 <@SkyDog_> :) I am cool with trying something new.
14:51 <@SkyDog_> I have not gotten too adventurous with the cuisine in Nashville.
14:51 < tdc_vga> I've eaten just about everywhere in nville i think, heh
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14:51 < TheLightCosine> SkyDog_:someone stol yer palce's wiring?
14:52 <@SkyDog_> TheLightCosine: Yeah. That was a few months ago. Quite the bummer.
14:52 <@SkyDog_> We put a protective plate up, and ground the screw heads off.
14:52 <@SkyDog_> tdc_vga: Then you pick man! Something i don't need an iron stomach for, but interesting.
14:53 < tdc_vga> someone STOLE the wiring
14:53 < tdc_vga> SkyDog_: sushi works for me, i've been trying to find a good place in nashville, heh... i heard samari was really good but i've never been
14:54 < tdc_vga> it's near cafe coco i think... on Eliston (lemme check)
14:54 <@SkyDog_> Cool.
14:54 < tdc_vga> what is the deal w/ nashville and no 24/7 food joints?
14:54 <@SkyDog_> Fucked if I know.
14:55 <@Evilpig> ihop
14:55 <@SkyDog_> I like Ichiban on second ave. They seem to have the best sushi. I'm open to looking for better though.
14:55 <@Evilpig> now who is gonna fuck skydog since he knows now?
14:55 < TheLightCosine> heh, one of these days i need to drive around nashville and learn where things are, I just know how to go up 24 to where i work and then abck down ehre to murfreesboro
14:56 < tdc_vga> never been to ichiban either... wanna give samurai a whirl? lemme find out what day i'll be working remotely this week (cause the office is in franklin)
14:56 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: You always will have a special place in my heart. asshole. :)
14:56 <@SkyDog_> That's cool.
14:56 < tdc_vga> TheLightCosine: how is "the boro"? i've driving by it a few itmes, heh
14:56 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: did you enjoy your time in vegas? I haven't seen your pics from the HP party yet...
14:57 < TheLightCosine> tdc_vga: *shrug* it's a college town where i'm at now
14:57 < tdc_vga> aestetix: read your PPT today, wish i would have seen the presentation...
14:57 < TheLightCosine> we're moving into our own palce up by 24 next month
14:57 < tdc_vga> TheLightCosine: ah, any woman? heh
14:57 < wrench___> tdc_vga: For real! Not much good open late in Nashville. Does that have to do with us being in the bible belt or something? We're a fairly large city--show us the eats!
14:58 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: there weren't any that I could post from that party but like 5 or 6
14:58 < tdc_vga> i thought about opening a 24 hour cafe in E. Nashville, heh
14:58 < TheLightCosine> *shrug* i'm married and have kids, i don't go crusing for skank anymore
14:58 <@ladymerlin> lol i had to edit mine before i posted
14:58 <@Evilpig> http://wilpig.org/temp/defcon/  <-- what little I felt comfortable posting
14:58 < tdc_vga> OSX needs better mouse gestures, heh
14:59 < tdc_vga> http://wilpig.org/temp/defcon/DSC03807.JPG
14:59 < tdc_vga> i like flamingo man
14:59 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: You gonna zip and send the others?
15:00 < eryc> what do you mean no 24 hour places?
15:00 < eryc> there's tons of waffle house!
15:00 < ware> the chick in the ninja getup was hot
15:00 < tdc_vga> who's the chick in purple? heh
15:00 < tdc_vga> eryc: one by percy priest and one in brentwood i think, heh
15:00 < TheLightCosine> lol why is it that everyone' pictures of Defcon are all of SkyDog_?
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15:01 < wrench___> eryc: besided the awful waffle...there is little selection after 10pm. What I wouldn't give for a late night deli of some kind.
15:01 < tdc_vga> i wish i coulda made it to DefCon ... stupid work
15:01 <@SkyDog_> TheLightCosine: Because I am large enough, you can't help but get me in the picture.
15:02 <@SkyDog_> wrench___: Man, if I could get a franchessy from Noshville at 1AM... I'd be a happy man.
15:02 < wrench___> no doubt!
15:02 < eryc> where is this chick in purple
15:02 < tdc_vga> eryc: right to the point i see
15:02 < tdc_vga> hahah
15:03 <@Evilpig> yeah
15:03 < eryc> ha, no i mean where is the URL
15:03 < tdc_vga> ahh
15:03 <@Evilpig> i've just been busy and haven't had a chance yet
15:04 <@ladymerlin> the purple chick is opfors wife
15:04 < eryc> then after that i will be needing her last known address
15:04 < tdc_vga> http://wilpig.org/temp/defcon/DSC03811.JPG
15:04 <@SkyDog_> eryc: I wouldn't go there man.
15:04 < tdc_vga> i'm excited about Yo Frankie...
15:04 <@Evilpig> he took her away from the party pretty early.  something tells me she would have been alot more fun after the entertainment had shown up.  lol
15:04 < tdc_vga> glad to see more work outta the blender project... nice
15:05 <@SkyDog_> Bush kept buying her tequila.
15:05 < ware> tdc_vga: looks interesting
15:05 <@Evilpig> lol
15:05 <@ladymerlin> shes was there for part of the entertainment
15:05 < tdc_vga> glad to see some OSS games actually making it to market
15:05 < eryc> she looks like paid entertainment
15:06 < eryc> how much is that per hour i wonder
15:06 < eryc> i can see why they had to leave early..
15:06 < tdc_vga> looks like all buddies in FL are about to get slammed w/ a Cat 1 hurricane, heh
15:06 < tdc_vga> can't say i miss those too much
15:07 < eryc> what is the new oss game?
15:07 < tdc_vga> http://www.yofrankie.org
15:08 < TheLightCosine> SkyDog_: the HC seems like a pretty farkin cool project
15:09 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> [13:02] shawn9743: I am a sixty year old woman
15:09 <@SkyDog_> It's been a blast so far!
15:09 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> lol...
15:09 < ware> Pr0nStrGeek_Work: shit youre in there too?
15:11 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> heh...
15:11 < eryc> in where?
15:11 < eryc> im having a lot of trouble following today
15:12 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> apparently wontonjoe is a sixty year old woman...
15:16 <@aestetix> I think I'm going to sue Netflix.
15:16 <@aestetix> Over emotional distraughtness because of all these great movies I haven't seen yet.
15:16 < eryc> they run out of gay porn again?
15:16 <@aestetix> I wouldn't know about them if that fucking website hadn't told me.
15:17 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> harold and kumar escape from gitmo was pretty good...
15:17 < tdc_vga> lol
15:19 < ware> yeah i liked it
15:19 < ware> wasnt anything like i expected
15:20 <@wizardpc> btw, Hancock is the most underrated movie of the summer
15:20 <@wizardpc> it is made of win
15:21 <@SkyDog_> I wanna see hancock.
15:21 < wrench___> To each his own but just thinking about Will Smith makes my stomach acid boil.
15:23 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> in west philadelphia...
15:23 < TheLightCosine> lol
15:24 <@Evilpig> born and raised
15:24 < ware> ON TEH PLAYGROUND WARE I SEPNT MOS UF MAH DAYZ
15:25 <@wizardpc> SkyDog_: Nikki and I saw it on saturday at the Bellevue 12
15:25 <@SkyDog_> wrench___: Man, you're hardcore. I understand why Will Smith would do that for you. :)
15:25 <@wizardpc> and the previews all came from about the first 1/3 of the movie
15:27 <@Catonic> xkcd.com
15:29 < eryc> nice
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15:30 <@Catonic> chillin out maxin relaxin out cool shootin some b ball outside of the school
15:30 < TheLightCosine> er so
15:30 <@Shadow404> Catonic: did you get my radio pics i sent you this morning?
15:30 <@Shadow404> yeah, well did you!!!
15:31 < TheLightCosine> as i was saying anyone know the best palce to go pickup a male-male audio cable? i need to jack in the crappy speakers on this monitor since i can't unbox my surround sound for the pc right now
15:31 <@Catonic> TheLightCosine: I'd be more worried about the fact that you're running an IRC client as root.
15:31 <@polerin> uherm..  normal audio stereo mini plug?
15:32 <@Evilpig> has anyone in here looked at solid state drives for server data arrays yet?  since their price has been coming down
15:32 <@Catonic> male-to-male? that's Corydon76's domain.
15:32 <@Catonic> female-to-female? talk to dc0de and skydog
15:33 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> Catonic: are you really making gay jokes with hair like that?
15:33 <@wizardpc> walmart?
15:33 <+MxZBot> walmart is so evil
15:33 <@Catonic> female-to-male-to-female.... talk to me...
15:33 < eryc> walmart is antigay
15:33 < TheLightCosine> Catonic: [15:33] [TheLightCosine VERSION reply]: mIRC v6.34 Khaled Mardam-Bey
15:33 < TheLightCosine> now do you REALLY think i'm running irc as root?
15:33 <@Shadow404> Catonic: !!!
15:34 < eryc> TheLightCosine: yes
15:34 < TheLightCosine> lol
15:34 < ware> rofl do me
15:34 < ware> i set that a long time ago
15:34 < TheLightCosine> you got me, I'm running Windows as root ;)
15:34 < eryc> arent all windows users root?
15:34 < TheLightCosine> ware: bahahaha
15:35 -ware:#se2600- TheLightCosine: Server has messages! Type /server messages to read them now
15:35 < eryc> oh neat, you have msgs
15:35 <@Shadow404> fail
15:35 < TheLightCosine> haha ware
15:35 < eryc> better get them quick!
15:35 <@someninjamaster> password:
15:37 <@Evilpig> TheLightCosine: yes
15:37 < ware> snmishot8==D
15:37 < TheLightCosine> rm -rf /
15:37 <@Evilpig> could you do that a little better del c:\?*.* /s
15:38 < ware> # finger Evilpig
15:40 <@wizardpc> Evilpig: it's deltree *
15:40 <@Evilpig> xp doesn't have deltree
15:40 <@Evilpig> nub
15:40 <@Evilpig> del c:\*.* /s  asks if you are sure.  ?*.* does not
15:40 <@wizardpc> wtf? when did they break that?
15:40 <@Evilpig> 2000 had it.  xp did not
15:41 <@Evilpig> I forget everytime I try to use it
15:41 <@Evilpig> xp does have rmdir though
15:41 <@wizardpc> damn. I havent used that command in 7 years? that's odd
15:42  * tdc_vga just runs macs anymore
15:42 <@Evilpig> has anyone used any solid state drives at all?
15:42 <@wizardpc> want->http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=107694131
15:43  * ware throws his USB drive at Evilpig 
15:43 <@someninjamaster> thats sexy
15:43 <@Evilpig> thumb drives don't interest me
15:43 <@Evilpig> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147054  <-- this does
15:44 < tdc_vga> heh no bids and 0.00
15:44 < tdc_vga> i think you could afford it wizardpc, heh
15:44 <@someninjamaster> wizardpc check out the starting bid
15:44 <@someninjamaster> 1025
15:44 <@wizardpc> yeah
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15:44 < tdc_vga> ahhhh
15:44 < tdc_vga> aye, there's the rub
15:45 <@wizardpc> they usually go for about $1200
15:45 <@someninjamaster> well take into account 10 dollers for background
15:45 <@someninjamaster> 35 for the transfer
15:46 <@someninjamaster> and proably 30 for shipping
15:46 <@wizardpc> which I would still have to pay if I bought it from DPMS
15:46 <@someninjamaster> well
15:46 <@someninjamaster> not if you got one local
15:46 <@someninjamaster> the guy at bellshire hardware has some if i remember correctly
15:47 <@wizardpc> ORLY?
15:47 <@someninjamaster> i think they were dpms
15:47 <@someninjamaster> call the shop and ask for phillip
15:47 <@wizardpc> I want the 24" bull barrel, not the 16" AP4
15:47 <@someninjamaster> and say you need some "hardware"
15:48 <@wizardpc> I have an M4 already, I want a "reach out and fuck you" rifle
15:48 <@someninjamaster> then when he asks you what the weathers like
15:48 <@someninjamaster> say sunny and 80
15:48 <@wizardpc> lol
15:48 <@someninjamaster> and that a bluebird just flew by
15:48 <@someninjamaster> then he should give you his inventory
15:49 < eryc> oh it gun time!
15:49 < eryc> i love when you guys talk about how big your guns are
15:50 <@someninjamaster> or how small
15:52 <@wizardpc> mmm derringer
15:52 <@Catonic> .22 or .50 works for me, but I prefer .223 and 7.62.
15:53 <@someninjamaster> whats your derringer
15:53 <@someninjamaster> .45
15:53 < eryc> do you ride bareback and blow the smoke off your gun?
15:54 <@wizardpc> nah its a .32
15:55 <@wizardpc> eryc: only with my wife
15:57 <@someninjamaster> haha
15:57 <@someninjamaster> wizardpc: .45 on the hip .38 in the pocket
15:57 < eryc> wizardpc: doesnt your wife have a gun?
15:58 < eryc> swordfight?
16:02 <@wizardpc> she doesnt like to carry
16:03 < tdc_vga> i'm writing a letter to the olympics and so far it goes like this:
16:03 < tdc_vga> dear olympics, you suck and no one likes you.  it's mainly because you're not fun, have commercials, occur 2 years too often, and allow professionals to compete now. why don't you try going back to your roots and stop sucking, then maybe we can try to patch up our relationship.
16:04 <@wizardpc> people still watch that crap?
16:04  * tdc_vga doesn't have a television so he's not sure, heh
16:05 <@polerin> I do :P
16:05 <@polerin> though not so much on the tv.. I'm waiting for TKD
16:05 < eryc> you missed women's mud wrestling last night
16:05 <@polerin> which is only going to be webcast.
16:06 < eryc> tomorrow night is greased up volleyball
16:06 < eryc> whats not to like?
16:06 < eryc> nbc always stalks the hot ones with their cameras
16:06 <@polerin> hehe
16:07 <@polerin> lissas was oogling the women's beach volleyball players :P
16:11 <@someninjamaster> i swear the brazillians would have won if they had been topless
16:12 <@someninjamaster> they just wernt used to wearing that much clothing
16:14 <@polerin> by the way
16:14 <@polerin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgrrQwLdME8
16:14 <@polerin> sfw
16:14 <@polerin> cutest damn thing EVER
16:16 < ware> hehe pretty good
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16:25 <@wizardpc> holy crap if I didnt know better I'd think dc0de was in a lot of trouble: http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080818/NEWS01/80818044
16:25 <@wizardpc> ~minilink
16:25 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/tennessean.com/H4ENb
16:25 <@Dagmar> Yeah I saw that
16:25 <@Dagmar> It *does* look a lot like dc0de.
16:25 <@Dagmar> Thankfully, dc0de's a little heavier than that dude
16:26 <@Dagmar> "wow that looks like dc0de" was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw it on www.wtvf.com
16:26 <@Dagmar> He's gonna get a kick out of it
16:26 <@polerin> lol
16:26 <@polerin> it does
16:26 <@wizardpc> see I knew it wasnt him cuz there's not bluetooth headset in that mugshot
16:27 <@polerin> heh
16:27 <@polerin> dc0de has crazier looking eyes too.
16:27 <@polerin> this guy just looks sort flat and angry.  dc0de looks happy crazy, but has that edge of "Ok fuck it, it's go time... EVERYONE DIES"
16:28 <@rhia> polerin: those are the best parties!
16:29 <@polerin> where everyone dies?
16:30 <@Dagmar> No, the ones where you wake up and think, "I should call a lawyer"
16:31 <@polerin> meh
16:31 <@polerin> I guess I'm just too sedate for that crap
16:41 <@rhia> polerin: yeah, that's you, just a boring, sedate prude ;)
16:42 <@polerin> hehe
16:42 <@polerin> yep
16:46 <@critch> anyone play the puzzle game planerity?
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16:59 < tdc_vga> 10 minutes and i get to leave, woo
17:00 <@aestetix> man
17:00 <@aestetix> http://www.facebook.com/jobs_puzzles/index.php
17:00 <@aestetix> has anyone played these?
17:00 <@aestetix> they are fucking easy
17:01 <@wizardpc> ummm facebook games? seriously?
17:01 < phocus> i only have one thing to say to that
17:01 < phocus> desktop tower defence
17:01 < tdc_vga> facebook is teh suck
17:01 < phocus> it is not a facebook game, because facebook is evil
17:01 <@aestetix> not games
17:01 <@aestetix> puzzles
17:01 <@aestetix> programming puzzles they encourage applicants to solve
17:02 < phocus> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.handdrawngames.com%2F&ei=V_GpSKfNG5K6gQTI64zfCg&usg=AFQjCNHpo3luB4z7tBBXu_CMqoT1vVzVtg&sig2=4lRfe1HjRX2l2wYnoXCOgw
17:02 < tdc_vga> i hate those programming puzzle things
17:03 < tdc_vga> some company kept asking me riddle crap and i was like "are you kidding me... 1) i'm studying for my bar exam, 2) this is just annoying, and 3) i didn't even know this was an interview"
17:03 < tdc_vga> they flew me up to discuss some stuff and i got put through an interview ringer... it was weird lol
17:04 <@wizardpc> wait which company advertises that their rollover minutes never expire?
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17:05 <@aestetix> tdc_vga: my view is that I can see the bar they are setting for new applicants, and also interject what they are working on by the puzzles they want the applicants to solve
17:05 <@aestetix> plus, it's a fun ten minute distraction from my job :)
17:06 < tdc_vga> yeah a distraction is nice
17:06 < tdc_vga> the puzzles, etc. wouldnt have pissed me off except i didn't know i was there for an interview hahahah
17:07 <@aestetix> but like
17:07 <@aestetix> my god
17:07 <@aestetix> facebook's entrance puzzles are retardedly easy
17:07 < tdc_vga> i got up at 5am to fly to TN (i was living in FL at the time), got to an interview after reading law books on the flights... landed in to freezing cold weather (nice and warm in FL), got grilled for 3 hours, then flew home shortly there after with no idea of what was going on, and then studied for the bar again until i landed in FL again hahah
17:08 < tdc_vga> *loading em*
17:08 < tdc_vga> good good they accept java
17:09 <@rhia> tdc_vga: why did you think they were flying you up?
17:09 < tdc_vga> hahah Meep Meep is hilarious
17:10 < tdc_vga> rhia: they were in talks to merge w/ some other company... i'd already met with both of them and thought it was just contract negotiations... no one told me i was interviewing for anything, lol
17:10 < tdc_vga> i had the job w/ the other party already so it was ALL very confusing for me hahahahha
17:10 < ware> lulz
17:10 < tdc_vga> they asked me to do a bubble sort and i was so out of it it took me like 10 minutes to get the code right hahahahahh
17:11 < tdc_vga> aestetix: the first one is hilarious
17:11 <@rhia> wonder if you were Supposed to talk contract negotiation and someone there fricked up... <g>
17:11 <@rhia> "well, we brought him in for something, must be a position..... where're the tests?"
17:12 < tdc_vga> aestetix: the submission system is entertaining.
17:12 < tdc_vga> rhia: i think company A (the interviewer) didn't tell company B i was being interviewed.. so they told me to fly up for more talks and i got grilled hahaha
17:12 < tdc_vga> it was the saddest performance of my life, seriously pitiful
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17:13 < tdc_vga> it had to have been entertaining for the people interviewing me, cause i kept staring at them (i hadn't slept much mind you.. with the bar exam going on, etc.)
17:13 < tdc_vga> ahahhaha what a trip all that was
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17:16 <@rhia> eh, i've had a day where i talked to 10 different people in 10 different rooms - and NO interview (well, when the topic is their wife, their kid, their cat, etc...) - then asked the next day why I didn't show for the interview ... by the lady chatting about her kids the day before! ~shrug~ to getting hired over the phone after a 5 minute conversation
17:16 <@rhia> company hiring practices can be ... bizarre
17:18 <@rhia> got offered both jobs, skipped the first one .... gee, wonder why? <g>
17:18 < tdc_vga> last job (the one in TN actually) i got hired while in the VIP section of a concert in New Orleans
17:18 < tdc_vga> i had a 4 inch mohawk on at the time, hahahah
17:18 <@wizardpc> last interview I had was with a company in ATL. The meeting went downhill til they say 2600 on my resume, and asked me if I knew Jim Noble
17:19 <@Dagmar> hahah
17:19 <@Dagmar> "He might have learned something from Jim.  We need him."
17:19 < tdc_vga> lol
17:19 <@rhia> hehe
17:19 <@wizardpc> sorry...s\til\when
17:19 <@Catonic> wizardpc: honestly, knowing people like SkyDog_ and dc0de isn't a bad thing.
17:20 <@rhia> or Dolemite ....
17:20 <@wizardpc> it was going fine..then they found out I knew dc0de. It was like dc0de had shot his dog or something
17:20 <@rhia> or Doc Joe, for that matter
17:20 <@rhia> wizardpc: shhhh, not in public!  <g>
17:20 <@dc0de> who what?
17:20 <@Dagmar> dc0de: You gotta leave them little kids alone, man
17:21 <@dc0de> dammit...
17:21 <@dc0de> it was only one...
17:21 <@dc0de> wizardpc: seriously? Who was the company?
17:21 <@Dagmar> dc0de: look at the fourth picture on the left http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=8858881
17:21 <@dc0de> SecureWorks?
17:21 <@wizardpc> it was a company called verint
17:21 <@dc0de> Dagmar: not even close, I have all my hair...
17:21 <@dc0de> verint? never heard of them
17:22 <@wizardpc> randy somethingorother
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17:22 <@Dagmar> dc0de: yeah, but Im not the only one from in here who saw that man's picture and thought he was a ringer for you
17:23 <@dc0de> wizardpc: hrm... I don't know that many ppl named randy... lemme look
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17:24 <@wizardpc> you had to leave to check?
17:25 <@dc0de> wizardpc: I have a very large rolodex...
17:25 < tdc_vga> heading home.. take care all
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17:30 <@dc0de> randy janita?
17:30 <@dc0de> or randy givens?
17:31 <@Catonic> wow. Railroad locomotive batteries can drop 3000 amps at 32V.
17:32 <@wizardpc> gicens might be right
17:32 <@Catonic> "valve-regulated technologies to fit all of your solar applications including: Missile Tracking"
17:33 <@dc0de> off to dinner bbiab
17:33 <@Catonic> dc0de: I want a copy of your pics from the party.
17:33 <@wizardpc> well its hard to get power to thse remote sites in poland, I suppose
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17:36 <@Catonic> wizardpc: what's the details on that?
17:36 <@Catonic> ship a ups or use solar.
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17:37 <@NotLarry> anyone know how to get in touch wwith oddball?
17:38  * Catonic pulls out the ZombieSignal
17:39 <@wizardpc> NotLarry: /msg oddball usually works :D
17:39 <@Catonic> get your shotguns... sometimes he's not the first to answer
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17:44 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBTpSqE3ipY <- LKMFAO!!!!
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17:51 <@dc0de> Catonic: how much does a locomotive battery weigh?
17:52 <@rhia> as in train?
17:53 <@Catonic> yes
17:54 <@rhia> off the top of the head, a shitton
17:54 <@polerin> heh
17:54 <@polerin> metric or imperial?
17:55 <@rhia> southernese ;)
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17:55 <@dc0de> well, I'm wondering if a locomotive battery can turn out 3000 amps at 32V, why can't I put one in a car?
17:56 <@Dagmar> Probably because the starter needs to be in the engine, not lying on the sidewalk 20 feet away.
17:56 <@dc0de> if it weighs a shitton, or a fuckton, then I can see it being a problem... but, if not, perhaps it'll be a good medium for an electric f-250
17:57 <@remoford> also, most car useful electric motors run on more than 32V
17:57 <@rhia> dc0de: most I can find weigh close to the weight of a stripped down mini cooper
17:57 <@remoford> you can convert but its much better to have a good voltage right off the battery
17:57 <@dc0de> 2000lbs?
17:57 <@rhia> so the weight ratio is not exactly favorable
17:57 <@remoford> power scrs the size of your head are freaking expensive
17:57 <@rhia> 1400 or so, but yeah
17:57 <@rhia> not light
17:58 <@rhia> no expert, just googling the hell out of the question
17:58 <@dc0de> yeah, it was just a thought.
17:58 <@Dagmar> Let's also say for the sake of amusement, that something shorted your battery
17:58 <@rhia> ooh, there's one that's only 700 lbs...
17:58 <@polerin> hehe
17:58 <@Dagmar> You could be the first guy on your block with a flying car.
17:58 <@Dagmar> ...for a few seconds anyway.
17:59 <@rhia> heh
18:00 <@remoford> beats the supercapacitors
18:01 <@remoford> short those and you might get all the energy in 10ms
18:01 <@remoford> in one spot
18:01 <@remoford> batteries at least a few secs to fail
18:02 <@remoford> except reverse charged lead acids, those blow up nicely
18:02 <@rhia> who killed the electric car .... see the battery guy?  and the EV1's that got shredded?  or what the Tesla wants to use?(glorified laptop batteries - no problem with the power quotients for the larger batteries, it's all political)
18:02 <@polerin> yeah
18:02 <@polerin> I haven't seen the documentary, but I've wanted too
18:03 <@rhia> one reason i heart the tesla is because of them pushing for the more efficient, lighter weight batteries ....
18:03 <@polerin> yeah
18:03 <@remoford> rhia: whats wrong w/ lithiums?
18:03 <@rhia> despite the politicos
18:03 <@brimstone> which websites/sources do people use for world and US news in here?
18:04 <@polerin> brimstone: http://indymedia.org
18:04 <@polerin> :D
18:04 <@rhia> brimstone: i go to about every english pub NOT from the US
18:04 <@rhia> south africa and scotland have some really good sites
18:04 <@brimstone> huh
18:05 <@polerin> news.google.com :P
18:05 <@rhia> ireland, the philipines, and, yes, the Ukraine, have some decent ones as well
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18:06 <@rhia> and Argentina and Peru aren't have shabby half the time, either - once you sort thru the chaff
18:06 <@rhia> but the US sites?  except for "local shooter" stuff, far too much noise to content ratio
18:07 <@rhia> and even then, the content is slanted, heavily
18:07 <@brimstone> yeah, that's what i'm finding
18:07 <@rhia> er, aren't too bad, not too shabby ...
18:07  * rhia shoves the cat off the desk
18:07 <@brimstone> with your snow shovel?
18:08 <@rhia> brimstone: you seen my cats? <g>
18:08 <@brimstone> no, i just think a snow shovel is apropiate for cats :D
18:08 <@brimstone> i mean, what else are you gonna use a snow shovel for in texas?
18:08 <@rhia> but thw SA and Scotland sites tend to be really good ..... oh, and don't forget some of the Israel sites
18:08 <@rhia> brimstone: pollen and leaves
18:08 <@brimstone> got links for SA and scotland?
18:09 <@rhia> google them .... they have about 6 major ones each... flip thru them each ... the more exposure on those sites, the more likely to find the truth
18:09 <@brimstone> right right
18:10 <@rhia> esp sinc SA is still .... SA ... Chinese there just filled to be listed as Black
18:10 <@brimstone> heh
18:10 <@rhia> since, after apartheid, the blacks have more rights than the whites .. under the table/on the streets, as it is
18:12 <@rhia> i trust US news to give me the full story as far as i can throw one of their news vans, backwards, with one finger
18:12 <@brimstone> that's the power of the media though
18:15 < ware> FUCK THE MEDIA
18:15 <@rhia> the media has no power .... don't look behind the curtain ... don't question what is on your tv... the media has no power ...
18:16 < ware> Department of Disinformation
18:17 <@rhia> brimstone: sit down with jonnyx at the next con, ask him about the media ... just go to the bathroom and stack your fluids beforehand ;)
18:17 <@brimstone> heh
18:17 < ware> doesnt take a rocket scientist
18:18 <@rhia> ware: but how much do your parents/aunts/uncles/2nd cousins listen to what CNN/FOX/MSNBC TELL them to believe?
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18:19 <@rhia> rattle: you're late ... it's Trust the Media???
18:20 <@remoford> do you really care what those cretins belive?
18:20 <@rhia> ware: it's not us, the geeks/hackers/nerds/weirdos/techophiles ... it's the general populace .... and they're buying it
18:21 <@rhia> remoford: they VOTE
18:21 <@rhia> and they out number us
18:21 <@rhia> you do the math
18:22 < ware> if theyre so stupid then just telling them isnt going to do shit
18:22 < ware> because obviously it hasnt changed anything
18:22 <@rhia> telling, no ... speaking to them as humans and Persuading them, ... possibly
18:22 <@remoford> exactly
18:22 <@remoford> there is precisely jack shit you can do about it
18:23 <@SkyDog_> Heya remo!
18:23 <@SkyDog_> you need to stop by the HC this weekend.
18:23 <@remoford> if they pass laws, break them
18:23 <@rhia> i'm on the phone nearly daily with my parents ... and slowly winning them over
18:23 <@remoford> fly low with the lights out
18:23  * aestetix sigh
18:23 <@remoford> dont let society get you down
18:23 <@aestetix> shot in hell anyone has the steven levy keynote from HOPE?
18:23 <@aestetix> you know, the one talk I really wanted to see?
18:23 <@rhia> with patience and saliva, the elephant deflowered the flea
18:23 <@remoford> SkyDog_: sorry i missed you this last weekend
18:23 <@aestetix> and it seems nobody else has even fucking heard of the guy?
18:24 <@remoford> rhia: consider this
18:24 <@rhia> remoford: break the law ... for what reason?
18:24 <@rhia> why not CHANGE the law?
18:24 <@remoford> how many points elevated is your blood pressure b/c you worry/evangalize about it to them
18:24 <@rhia> why not change the minds of the brainwashed?
18:25 <@rhia> remoford: ????
18:25 <@remoford> now, how much is said govt going to lower your life span
18:25 <@remoford> its not worth it
18:25 <@remoford> you dont change the law b/c you cant
18:26 <@remoford> unless you have shitloads of money to donate that is
18:26 <@rhia> remoford: i lower my own life span ... and i have kids (adults, now) so, yes, paying attention and trying to turn votes IS worth it
18:26 <@remoford> ok
18:26 <@rhia> my adult kids will probably have kids themselves ... should i just ignore that because i'm gonna die in the next 60 years?
18:26 <@remoford> better world for the chidlens is prolly a decent perspective
18:27 <@rhia> or should i take the rep side and say fuck it all... ?
18:27 <@rhia> or the dem side and say pamper them all?
18:27 <@remoford> no
18:27 <@remoford> its better to teach them to be free
18:27 <@remoford> regardless of laws/govt/society
18:27 <@rhia> or how about the geek side and say "educate them all"?
18:28  * rhia is a geek 
18:28 <@remoford> education is great for factual stuff
18:28 <@rhia> remoford: all things are factual ...
18:28 <@remoford> dunno how factual most politics is, largely emotional
18:28 <@rhia> let's discuss Nietzsche
18:28 <@rhia> or kant
18:29 <@remoford> im not saying drop out of society and fuck everything
18:29 <@rhia> politics are extremely factual, it's the media that makes it emotional
18:30 <@rhia> the Medici didn't see politics as being emotional ... they just used emotions to further their cause ... oh, gee.... that sounds familiar
18:30 <@remoford> the exact dollar amount of nasas budget is factual
18:30 <@remoford> the moral rightness of social welfare is very much not
18:31 <@remoford> hell the whole freedom/liberty/rights thing is quite abstract
18:32 <@rhia> remoford: and the moral rightness of going into Iraq? ignoring Georgia (our most stalwart ally)? ... shall i continue?
18:33 <@rhia> morality does NOT equal political expediency - that's kind of my whole arguement ... despite the pathetic side traps
18:33 <@remoford> all subjective
18:33 <@remoford> whats funny, is i prolly agree with you on 90% of those points
18:33 <@Catonic> we need rattle for this discussion
18:33 <@rhia> and the media goes with who buys them the most expensive dinners .. pfft
18:33 <@rhia> Catonic: rattle, and jonnyx if we can rouse him
18:33 <@remoford> true
18:34 <@rhia> remoford: you keep arguing points that i am not making ...
18:34 <@rhia> i am no straw man
18:35 <@remoford> aww, but i do need a heart
18:35 <@Catonic> I need courage.
18:35  * Catonic downs the whole bottle of Jack Daniels
18:35 <@remoford> i just dont think that politics is really worth anyones time anymore
18:36 <@Catonic> unless you want money or power. Hrm....
18:36 <@remoford> all it does for me is get my blood pressure up
18:36 <@remoford> ill take some money but you can keep the power
18:36 <@Catonic> Then take that reaction and remove it from your list of responses
18:37 <@remoford> sometimes i think id just be happier in china where there are no politics
18:37 <@remoford> no need to decide what shoes to wear today, just dont have any
18:37 <@Catonic> Make no mistake about it: This Is The Best Country In The World.
18:37 <@rhia> remoford: thank you ... you're yet another one that COULD make a change, but decide to sit on their ass instead because the media has convinced you that opposition won't matter
18:38 <@remoford> thats such a funny statement, so bald faced
18:38 <@rhia> china is full of politics, btw
18:38 <@remoford> but noone has yet to point out a better country
18:38 <@rhia> Tianman Square?
18:38 <@remoford> worst except for all the others
18:39 <@remoford> rhia: i was using china as a standin for some sort of ideal totalitarian society
18:39 <@rhia> remoford: give this country filled with "it don't matter" people and it WON'T be the best much longer
18:40  * rhia walks away disgusted with hackers who care more about their pizza than their future
18:40 <@brimstone> my future has pizza
18:40 <@remoford> mmm pizza
18:41 <@remoford> it matters to a degree
18:41 <@remoford> but you gotta match effort to results
18:41 <@rhia> remoford: how old are you?
18:41 <@remoford> 24
18:41 <@rhia> the US is still the best, by a damned thinned thread
18:41 <@brimstone> geebus you're old
18:41 <@remoford> im also tall, dark and handsome
18:42 <@rhia> remoford: yeah, i is ancient, 44
18:42  * remoford waits for other pplz to contridict that
18:43 <@brimstone> she's a woman
18:43 <@brimstone> we let it go
18:43 <@rhia> and my dad served 2 tours in Nam, uncles died the wars before that ... this country is not great because Bush went into Iraq to avenge daddy and secure an oil supply - that he hasn't secured yet....
18:43 <@remoford> well, perhaps youve seen some positive change somewhere
18:43 <@rhia> brimstone: ?!?
18:43 <@remoford> i grew up under clinton
18:43 <@brimstone> rhia: i don't know, i think i missed some of the converstation
18:43 <@rhia> remoford: then read history
18:43 <@remoford> it really has all been down hill far as ive been alive to see
18:44 <@rhia> brimstone: from you?!?   i'm ... disappointed
18:44 <@rhia> and remoford just needs to read more
18:44 <@brimstone> confusion++
18:44 <@remoford> i have
18:44 <@rhia> <brimstone> she's a woman
18:44 <@rhia> <brimstone> we let it go
18:44 <@remoford> the best history comes out of the freedom of information act
18:45 <@remoford> all the while people are running around doing the hippy thing making changes
18:45 <@rhia> fuck it... i thought this channel had hackers in it
18:45 <@remoford> we are assainating people in south america, doing mkultra and all the rest
18:45 <@remoford> big problem w/ bush
18:45 <@remoford> is he has been uncommon honest
18:45 <@brimstone> rhia: i thought remoford wanted something contridicted
18:45 < ware> 07 - Paul van Dyk - Another Sunday.mp3
18:46 <@remoford> would you like me to write you some shellcode?
18:46  * remoford is getting rusty on the assembler
18:46 <@Catonic> she's a woman; she's a rebel... dun dun dun dun da mumble mumble
18:46 <@remoford> woo-sah
18:46 <@Catonic> green day
18:47 <@Catonic> rhia: I am not trilled about staring 29 in the eye.
18:48 <@remoford> never trust anyone over 70
18:48 <@remoford> thats exactly what is wrong w/ the us
18:48 <@remoford> all the retireing hippies
18:49 <@Catonic> Never trust anyone over 40. Cougars are deadly, I tellz ya.
18:49 <@remoford> heh, you cant get granny pregnant
18:49 <@Catonic> dude, they won't rule out preganacy at the doctor's office unless she can prove she's past menopause
18:51 <@rhia> Catonic: not even then, quite a few post menopausal grandmas have had artificial insemination to give birth to their grandkids
18:52 <@remoford> wait what?
18:52 <@remoford> how is grandma giving birth to her grandkids
18:52 <@remoford> are you from georgia or something?
18:54 <@rhia> remoford: i hope to never meet you in person, if you can't rise above some ego stroking irc chat to be honest with your friends and yourself ..... pathetic
18:55 <@Catonic> lmfao
18:55 <@rhia> fuck it all ... i thought this channel had HACKERS in it
18:56 <@Catonic> I'm out. Gotta do some drunken bowling.
18:56  * rhia wanders away for intelligent conversation
18:56 <@Catonic> rhia: hacker is a very broadly defined word.
18:56 <@rhia> Catonic: ever read my papers on it?
18:56  * rhia wanders away for intelligent conversation
19:00 <@remoford> see, politics just makes people upset for nothing gained
19:24 <@polerin> no, that would be idiocy :P
19:25 <@remoford> cant deny that
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19:38 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: no more secrets.
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19:39 <@sdodson> ferrealz
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19:51 <@aestetix> Man.
19:51 <@aestetix> Any programmers ever have moments when you feel like you've done nothing, then someone comes along and says "wow, I can't believe you've done all this work!"?
19:53 <@mtown_nerd> http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4557935.ece
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19:55 <@ziplock> sheesh, it'll cost me more to fly from ATL to Phreaknic than it did to fly to BH/Defcon
19:55 <@aestetix> Goddamn.
19:55 <@wizardpc> well, yeah
19:55 <@wizardpc> commuter planes are more expensive to operate
19:56 <@ziplock> insane.  I got nonstop to V for $300.  But with one stop to Nashville it's $350, nonstop is over $500.  Wish I could drive that far
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19:57 <@wizardpc> carpool?
20:03 <@sdodson> DANCE DANCE!
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20:14 <@wizardpc> oh now he's l33t
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20:20 < TdC_VgA> but is he 3r33t?
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20:23 <@remoford> sup james
20:24 <@someninjamaster> sup remoford
20:25 < AstralSin> hm, anyone got a regex to replace a _ with a space?
20:25 <@remoford> dont need a regex
20:25 <@remoford> use tr
20:25 < AstralSin> how do you even refer to a space with tr?
20:26 <@remoford> tr '_' ' '
20:26 <@remoford> looks a bit odd but its better than doing picket fence with your regex
20:27 < AstralSin> danke
20:31 < AstralSin> wow, this didn't work like i thought it would at all
20:31 < AstralSin> i need a bash script that will rename the contents of a directory, replacing _ with a space
20:31 <@someninjamaster> remoford: you comming to phreaknic this year
20:31 < AstralSin> doesn't have to be bash, thats just what i'm doing atm
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20:43 <@remoford> i sure hope so
20:43 <@remoford> planning to at least
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20:49 <@remoford> AstralSin: for x in * ; do mv "$x" "`echo $x|sed 's/_/\\\ /g'`" ; done
20:49 <@brimstone> ick
20:49 <@brimstone> rename 's/_/ /g'
20:49 <@brimstone> rename 's/_/ /g' * i think
20:49 <@remoford> rest of the channel: please feel free to tell me how the echo isnt nessecarry and it can be done in 1/3 the keystrokes
20:50 <@brimstone> np
20:50 <@brimstone> :D
20:50 < AstralSin> brimstone: that doesn't work
20:50 < AstralSin> i already tried it
20:50 <@brimstone> oh?
20:50 <@remoford> for that matter
20:50 <@remoford> its already got an error
20:50  * brimstone tries
20:51 <@remoford> the escaped escape isnt nessecarry if you use the double quotes
20:51 <@remoford> this comes of stepwise refinement
20:51 <@brimstone> AstralSin: worked in debian sid
20:52 <@remoford> take out the \\ and its good
20:52 < AstralSin> doesn't work in fedora, brimstone
20:52 < AstralSin> er centos
20:52 <@remoford> originally i didnt have the quotes but then i realized the input might have spaces to begin w/
20:53 <@remoford> the real answer here is dont use spaces in filenames
20:53 <@remoford> shell scripts hate that
20:53 < AstralSin> that worked remoford, thanks
20:54 < AstralSin> actually, in this case, i have to have spaces in filenames
20:54 < AstralSin> boss's order, "looks better to the client"
20:54 <@remoford> brimstone: you are correct tho, rename is on my box by default nowadays
20:54 < AstralSin> plus the downloads are handled by joomla and it doesn't care about spaces
20:54 <@remoford> didnt usta be
20:54 <@remoford> nothing but a shell script should care about spaces
20:55 <@remoford> its always a fail, but in shell its understandable
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20:56 <@remoford> also note that if you integrate that into something else it will fail for very very large values of *
21:05 <@sdodson> ware: ZOMG WHAT HAPPENED?!
21:12 <@Dagmar> If whitespace causes your scripts problem, god forbid someone with actual malicious intent try inserting other special characters.
21:13 <@remoford> true
21:13 <@remoford> of course the answer there is if it needs to be secure youd best not write it in shell
21:13 <@remoford> there are just too many ways to fuck up
21:13 <@Dagmar> best not write it in a language you don't know well enough to write it in securely.
21:14 <@sdodson> DAGMAR WILL HAXOR YOUR IRC CONNECTIONS WITH HIS 1500LB MOTARCYCLE!
21:15 <@remoford> simply "being awesome" isnt good security practice either
21:16 <@NotLarry> sdodson: I think that is 15lb
21:17 <@NotLarry> dropped the bike at a light the other day with the wife on the back
21:18 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: I weigh a shade more than 151
21:18 <@NotLarry> damn, I missed rhia
21:19 <@NotLarry> oh, wait, she was looking for intelligent conversation.
21:19 <@NotLarry> I weigh a tad more than two of you
21:20 <@remoford> haha
21:20 <@remoford> we need to have a se2600 fat guy competition
21:20 <@remoford> phreaknic sumo wrestling
21:20 <@NotLarry> we did, last year
21:20 <@NotLarry> I'm sure someone has the youtube link
21:20 <@remoford> damn, i missed that
21:21 <@remoford> i missed most of phreaknic last year unfortunatly
21:21 <@NotLarry> well, Rattle needs to bulk up a little more this year...
21:23 < eryc> whats phreaknic?
21:24 < eryc> oh isnt that where people jump on cars and eat chicken wings
21:24 <@brimstone> that's the one in atlanta
21:25 < eryc> or was
21:25 < Falun> when was the last time that phreaknic happened? I've been here almost 8 years and I don't ever remember it
21:25 < eryc> they finally collected together enough white people with guns to fend them off
21:26 < AstralSin> falun: http://www.phreaknic.info/pn12/
21:27 < ware> all these new ppl showin u
21:27 < ware> p
21:27 < Falun> AstralSin: mrm? I meant the one in Atlanta
21:27 < AstralSin> oh
21:27 < AstralSin> *shrug* does atlanta even do a conference?
21:27 < cwire> outerz0ne
21:28 < Falun> interzone for a while, then outerzone which I never made it too
21:28 < eryc> atlanta.con my friend!
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21:28 < eryc> kids today..
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21:28 < AstralSin> oh yeah
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21:29 < cwire> i assume the list of speakers should be posted relatively soon for the upcoming phreaknic
21:30 < eryc> the show was canceled.. sorry no refunds
21:30 < eryc> donations are still being accepted
21:30 < eryc> oh but the gay orgy is still a go
21:31 < eryc> contact catonic for more info
21:31 < eryc> aestetix is catcher this year
21:37 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf5cmd0-qCE
21:42 <@someninjamaster> usa usa usa
21:42 <@someninjamaster> usa girls softball destroying china
21:43 <@sdodson> I hate team sports in the olympics
21:43 <@sdodson> and pro sports
21:43 <@someninjamaster> why
21:43 <@sdodson> because it's medal inflation
21:43 <@someninjamaster> haha
21:43 <@sdodson> http://www.realmansolympics.com/
21:44 < ware> he heard that one at work :(
21:44 <@sdodson> ware: what's up yo?
21:50 < eryc> oh shit! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeWqh2--fDM
21:57 <@aestetix> The more I see those two, the more I'm convinced eryc is a ware clone.
21:57 <@aestetix> cwire: why do you assume that?
21:59 < cwire> it's in october, don't they normally put out the schedule about a month ahead?
21:59  * aestetix misses @lanta.con
21:59 < cwire> shouldn't be too long in any case
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22:00 <@aestetix> cwire: they might release *some* of it
22:00 <@aestetix> Thankfully toorcon is back on its normal weekend this year.
22:00 < cwire> cool
22:01 < ware> sdodson: haxn
22:01 < ware> all the time
22:01 <@aestetix> That became a huge issue last year.
22:01 < ware> mitmn urssl
22:01 <@aestetix> ware: you submitting to PN?
22:01 < ware> yes, chair toss event
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22:01 < ware> all the shit i would talk about is already known and out there
22:01 < cwire> lol
22:01 <@aestetix> So?
22:02 <@aestetix> Dude, I gave a talk about the history of AI once.
22:02 <@aestetix> Seriously.
22:02 <@aestetix> The fucking history. Of fucking AI.
22:02 < ware> i get nervous talkin in front of a lot of ppl
22:02 < cwire> i think there's a niche for a professional chair tossing talk
22:02 <@aestetix> ware: so did I.
22:02 < ware> i could tie it in with the olympics
22:02 <@aestetix> At this point I don't really give a shit anymore.
22:02 < ware> i did horrible in my speech class at school haha
22:02 <@aestetix> Especially if I get donations of tequilla before the talk.
22:03 <@aestetix> ware: ok, remember one, very important thing that sets this apart from all your bullshit drama classes.
22:03 < cwire> phreaknic is probably one of the least threatening places you could give a talk
22:03 <@aestetix> The more you drink, the better your talk will be.
22:03 <@aestetix> The less formal, the better your talk will be.
22:03 <@aestetix> Look at Decius.
22:03 < cwire> and the whole audience is drunk too, so it's good
22:03 <@aestetix> The guy gets hammered and rants about shit for an hour.
22:03 < ware> true
22:03 <@aestetix> And it's now a capstone of PhreakNIC.
22:03 < cwire> yeah, and packs the room :-D
22:04 <@aestetix> Tied with that for most popular talk: Why You Suck.
22:04 <@aestetix> In a close second is the video of Dolemite breakdancing.
22:04 < ware> hehe <3 why you suck
22:04 < ware> whaaa
22:04 < ware> i missed that vid
22:04 < ware> hahaha
22:05 <@aestetix> ware: I think Corydon76-dig is the only one who has it.
22:05 <@aestetix> And his price is a blowjob.
22:07 < ware> we are sol
22:07 < ware> im upset with that geek atm
22:07 <@aestetix> ware: seriously though.
22:07 < ware> srs
22:07 <@aestetix> Find something you're good at and submit a talk.
22:07 <@aestetix> Didn't you do something at the HC or whatever?
22:07 <@aestetix> Maybe you can do a workshop.
22:07 < ware> im decent at lots of things but not an expert at any
22:08 < ware> i pwned the de-ice.net class
22:08 <@timoguin> so... who has experience with sonicwall NAT policies?
22:08 <@timoguin> 'sides my n00b roomie.
22:08 <@aestetix> Speaking of sucking.
22:08 < ware> we hax on the side all the time
22:10 <@aestetix> btw
22:10 <@aestetix> I respect SkyDog_ and all.
22:10 <@aestetix> But the websites look like 1998 :p
22:10 <@timoguin> haha
22:12 <@aestetix> I mean, I can't really talk, because I have zero web design skills.
22:12 < ware> seems like it needs some more info
22:13 <@aestetix> awww man
22:13 <@aestetix> the Hacker Consortium wiki is protected
22:13 <@aestetix> I can't drop goatses on it
22:13 <@sdodson> aestetix: will you come to phreaknicz?
22:13 <@aestetix> sdodson: unknown
22:13 <@sdodson> ware: what happened to phneak?
22:14 <@sdodson> aestetix: don't be an ass sausage
22:14 < ware> new firewall in place
22:14 < ware> im lettin tim hax on the sonicwall
22:14 <@sdodson> omg, how many orgasms will he be giving it tonight?!
22:14 <@timoguin> sdodson: I'll get that up now.
22:14 < ware> 1400
22:14 <@timoguin> gimme a sec.
22:16 < eryc> triple orgasm xp?
22:16 <@aestetix> pc muscle baby
22:16 <@sdodson> pc muscle?
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22:17 <@timoguin> that's the muscle that can cut off the flow of urine
22:17 <@timoguin> ...or semen.
22:17 <@aestetix> this is interesting
22:17 <@aestetix> http://wiki.hackerconsortium.com/doku.php?do=%27&lt;
22:17 <@aestetix> look at the error at the top
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22:18 <@timoguin> sdodson: try to connect to the ircd now.
22:18 < ware> refused
22:18 <@aestetix> ok this fucking website has now challenged me
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22:20 <@aestetix> awww
22:20 < ware> hehe
22:20 < eryc> i bet he had server msgs to check
22:20 < ware>  /connect ftw
22:20 < ware> :P
22:21 < eryc> lolnoob
22:22 < eryc> maybe he's embarassed to come back now
22:24 < eryc> heh
22:24 < eryc> Cristine is new on Facebook. To welcome her:
22:24 < eryc> [] bukake her face
22:24 < eryc> [] have sex with her bff
22:25 < eryc> [] post all her nude picz
22:25 < eryc> hmm.. what to do
22:25 < eryc> hard to believe she is "new" with 927 friends
22:26 <@NotLarry> Anyone watching the olypmics?
22:26 < cwire> i am
22:27 < eryc> this girl is hot
22:28 <@NotLarry> eryc: The chinese girl?
22:28 < eryc> http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v299/4/105/1440126554/n1440126554_22828_9035.jpg
22:28 < eryc> the blonde
22:29 <@sdodson> Is that a big explosion or herpes on her face?
22:29 < eryc> no shes been eating asshole
22:29 < cwire> ha, i thought there was something on my monitor
22:30 < eryc> http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v299/4/105/1440126554/n1440126554_22826_8538.jpg
22:30 < ware> jailbait
22:30 < eryc> says shes in grad school for accounting
22:31 < Falun> *mutter* jailbait should be fored to wear some kind of identifing marks or bells or something
22:31 < ware> shes a stupid fucking whore
22:31 < ware> thats what she is
22:31 <@NotLarry> our gold medalist lost to a 12 year old
22:31 < ware> ?
22:31 < ware> phelps?
22:31 < cwire> yeah, don't know how they think she's old enough
22:31 < eryc> http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v225/1392/123/n1440126554_4497.jpg
22:32 < ware> no grad school
22:32 <@NotLarry> no ware, you twit, the gymastics.  The chinese girl who just squeeked out the gold isn't 16 years old.
22:32 < ware> but college maybe
22:32 < eryc> she says in her profile "i am not a stupid fucking whore"
22:32 < eryc> so i dunno...
22:32 < eryc> maybe
22:32 <@NotLarry> eryc: what are you doing on facebook?
22:33 < ware> obviously stalking little girls
22:33 < ware> lol
22:33 < cwire> that chick's like 3'8"
22:33 <@NotLarry> They bind them in china\
22:33 <@sdodson> she wouldn't even have to get on her knees!
22:33 < cwire> they bind them vertically!?
22:33 < cwire> lol
22:34 < ware> in the darkness
22:34 < ware> 2 rool dem all
22:34 < cwire> zing
22:34 < eryc> http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v251/97/50/678855367/n678855367_3318031_6769.jpg
22:34 < eryc> another of my little franz
22:35 <@sdodson> eryc: You're crossing over into Evilpig territory!
22:35 < ware> yeah thats underage
22:35 < eryc> shes like 25
22:35 < ware> maybe eryc is a fed
22:35 < ware> baiting
22:35 < ware> for pedoz
22:36 < ware> ohai found u out
22:36 < ware> n no u cant haz mah pronz
22:38 < eryc> fine how about this one
22:38 < eryc> http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v184/211/120/702255993/n702255993_380179_1114.jpg
22:38 < ware> k
22:39 < eryc> she's a member of System Administrator Appreciation Day
22:39 < ware> http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v151/170/85/506303218/n506303218_383098_5435.jpg
22:39 < eryc> which makes her hotter for obvious reasons
22:39 < eryc> nice ware is that yer moms?
22:39 < eryc> she's sexy
22:40 < ware> yah
22:41 < eryc> i got this one chick who is in charge of expatriots moving to south africa or something
22:41 < eryc> i figure she might be useful one day if i want to move to cape horn
22:44 < ware> nice
22:44 < ware> too many stds for me
22:46 < cwire> did anyone see the trampoline finals earlier on the olympics?  i had no idea that was actually an event
22:47 <@someninjamaster> wtf is on the olympics
22:47 <@someninjamaster> its like soccer but they are only using their hands
22:47 < ware> handball
22:47 < ware> its the best sport every
22:47 <@someninjamaster> thats a sport
22:48 < ware> ever*
22:48 < ware> ytah
22:48 < ware> you mix everything together
22:48 <@NotLarry> hand ball is a fucking excelent sport
22:48 < ware> balls in hand is better
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22:49 < ware> 2balls1hand.com
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22:52 <@timoguin> sdodson: it's up now.
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22:55 < ware> taint 4me
22:56 <@timoguin> ware: where are you trying to connect from?
22:56 <@someninjamaster> i wouldnt be allowed to play handball because i would keep chucking it at peoples nuts
22:57 <@sasquatc4> hah, nice, tpb changed to the beijing bay
22:57 <@sasquatc4> got a cease and desist
22:58 < ware> outside
23:01 < ware> lol from who?
23:02 < eryc> i dont see no cds
23:03 < ware> carnivorous devas?
23:03 < ware> MEAT SANDWICH
23:05 <@NotLarry> night all
23:05 < ware> holla
23:05 < cwire> night
23:05 < eryc> meat sammich always make u sleepy
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23:28 < eryc> http://scarybuggames.com/2008/05/chronotron/
23:28 < eryc> lvl 19 so far!
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23:49 <@Catonic> eryc: hit that shit and just tell us about it later.
23:50 <@Catonic> I'd hit it with my maglight, fuck it, then fuck it with my maglight.
23:58 < eryc> lol
23:58 < eryc> maglight ftw
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