--- Log opened Sun Aug 17 00:00:53 2008
00:06 <@Mirage> midnight already? shit..time flies when you're watching programs compile
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00:23 <@Evilpig> I've been watching user directories move / create / etc for 300+ students
00:24 <@Evilpig> also modified the directory services with all their new directory locations, their graduation years.  ugh
00:29 < eryc> orly
00:29 < eryc> is 300 alot?
00:31 < eryc> it gets a little more fun in the kilos
00:36 <@sdodson> anything more than a dozen and it's scripted and the only difference is the number of times you can go grab a cup of coffee
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01:06 <@Evilpig> 300 is more students than I ever care to mess with
01:38 <@Catonic> for tonight, we dine in hell!!!
01:39 < ware> FOR TONIGHT
01:39 < ware> FOR SPARTA!!!
02:06 <@Catonic> never gonna give you up
02:06 <@Catonic> never gonna let you down
02:06 <@Catonic> gonna strap you to a chair
02:06 <@Catonic> and let ware at you
02:12 < ware> inorite
02:12 < ware> nekid tiem
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10:57 < TheLightCosine> morning
11:08 <@dc0de> hey, a question for all you HAM users/operators...
11:08 <@dc0de> I am trying to get a list of the radio stations, AM&FM in Georgia, with their addresses...
11:08 <@dc0de> any good query engines out there?
11:12 <+MaxieZ> You lost me at HAM
11:12 <@sdodson> mmm delicious honey baked ham
11:12 <+MaxieZ> I don't even eat it
11:13 <@sdodson> you veggie?
11:14 < TheLightCosine> hunh wierd, brand new cd-r out of the spindle, only registered 448MB of space on the media
11:14 <+MaxieZ> no, just no pork
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11:52 < ware> http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v300/17/102/38416423/n38416423_34469201_4379.jpg
11:54 <@sdodson> I don't get it but lolz
11:59 < ware> lolwut
12:00 < ware> Pulp Fiction
12:00 < ware> talking about mr wallace to the kid dealers
12:00 < ware> SAY WHAT AGAIN MOTHERFUCKER I DARE YOU!
12:03 <+MaxieZ> Ware: funny.
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12:17 <@JimShoe> ware: ever seen these http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/officially-cool/movie-scenes-come-to-life-with-typography.php
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12:30 < ware> hahaha nice
12:36 <@JimShoe> this is my favorite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejweI0EQpX8
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13:24 <@Catonic> I love waking up to the sound of a failed UPS.
13:25 <@Catonic> dc0de: google "TV Query"
13:26 <@Catonic> ~google for fcc tv query
13:26 <+MxZBot> Google says fcc tv query is at http://www.fcc.gov/mb/video/tvq.html or http://www.scanware-fccfrs.net/sw_FCCQRY.html or http://www.uvouch.com/vouchedlinkuser.php?favid=117696
13:59 <@Dagmar> I'm not saying anything specific, but umm...
13:59 <@Dagmar> http://www.slackware.com/
13:59 <@Dagmar> Look in the upper right
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14:00 <@Dagmar> Hey wizard
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14:08 < eryc> sup with the slackware logo
14:10 < m-c> did anyone attend HOPE ?
14:10 < m-c> here
14:10 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I dont' want to make any snap judgements about that logo
14:10 < m-c> listening to the audio recordings that they put online -- there are some awesome presentations -- makes me eager for phreaknic
14:10 <@Dagmar> I can't decide if it's ugly, or just very futuristic.
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14:16 < m-c> http://www.thelasthope.org/news_audio-and-shirts-available.php
14:16 < m-c> http://www.thelasthope.org/news_audio-and-shirts-available.php/
14:16 < m-c> oops
14:18 < ware> what logo yall talkin about
14:19 < ware> the favicon
14:20 < AstralSin> the ugly ass font in the slackware logo
14:21 < ware> oh the fatshit
14:21 <@sdodson> m-c is who?
14:21 < m-c> who is a good person to talk to about running a table at phreaknic?
14:22 < m-c> sdodson, I am with NLUG
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14:22 < ware> m-c haxalot
14:22 <@sdodson> zomg that's what i was thinking!
14:23 < ware> !!!
14:23 < ware> mah<3, u haz it
14:23 < m-c> who is haxalot ware?
14:23 <@Dagmar> . o O ( NLUG is still alive? )
14:24 <@sdodson> LUGs are still relevant?
14:24 < m-c> we've been keeping it secret from you dagmar
14:24 <@sdodson> Just the same, 2600 meetings are still relevant
14:24 <@sdodson> ?
14:24 <@Dagmar> Yeah, we'd probably be falling prey to the same thing if we weren't mainly "get people out of the house so they'll stop being such trolls"-focused
14:25 < m-c> classic quote
14:26 <@Catonic> m-c: myself, rattle, aestetix, and sdodson were there
14:26 <@Catonic> as was jonnyx for a few things
14:26 <@Catonic> I only saw two talks, a record I didn't break for defcon either.
14:26 < m-c> Catonic, Any talks that you recommend?
14:27 < m-c> I've listened to a bunch and they have been really good.
14:29 < eryc> i recommend getting drunk and hitting on strippers
14:29 < eryc> oh wait, thats what i did during hope
14:30 <@sdodson> my wheat thins are all bogarted
14:31 < m-c> Catonic, did you carpool up there?  long drive!
14:31 < eryc> we took scooters
14:31 <@Dagmar> Jesus, how many stops for gas would that have been?
14:34 < eryc> ya the jersey turnpike would suck on scooters
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15:00 < m-c> just watched a documentary about a guy who used one of those new scooters to go across the country...
15:01 <@Dagmar> Stopping for gas every 150 miles or so
15:01 <@tcstool> expensive trip
15:01 <@Dagmar> NOpe
15:01 <@Dagmar> Probably cheap as hell, actually.
15:02 <@Dagmar> MPG for scooters kinda starts at 60 and goes upwards with a vengeance.
15:02 <@Dagmar> Mine is supposed to be 75mpg on a _bad_ day.
15:02 <@Dagmar> Some folks are getting as high as 100mpg on this model
15:02 <@Dagmar> You just have to stop often on long drives because none of them have bigger than a two gallon tank
15:03 <@tcstool> Hm that's interesting
15:03 <@tcstool> I didn't think they'd be built with a very fuel efficient motor
15:03 <@Evilpig> strap a 2gallon gas can onto the scooter and get an extra fill up for each real gas stop
15:04 <@Dagmar> tcstool: The motors are *tiny*
15:04 <@tcstool> heck yeah
15:05 <@Dagmar> Since most of that inefficiency comes from hauling say, two tons of car around (scooters tend to weigh less than 400lbs, much less)...
15:05 <@Dagmar> ...and the whole process of power being lost from just vibrating a half ton of engine around...
15:06 <@Dagmar> A tiny little engine hauling a 250lb bike around is going to not have a hard time being gas efficient
15:06 <@tcstool> makes sense
15:07 <@aestetix> stupid comment!
15:07 <@aestetix> annoying insult, compounded by a cow joke for ware
15:07 <@Dagmar> What they don't tell you is the feeling of relative panic the first time that fucker starts moving
15:08 <@Dagmar> Handbrakes take some getting used to
15:10 <@sdodson> lol scooters!
15:10 <@Dagmar> The only problem I really have with the thing is the stand
15:10 <@Dagmar> You basically gotta lift this 215lb thing UP to get it on the double-headed stand instead of the kickstand
15:11 <@sdodson> Are you capable of highway speeds?
15:11 <@Dagmar> Yep
15:11 <@sdodson> Like what sort of speeds?
15:11 <@sdodson> And for extended periods of time?
15:12 <@Dagmar> Yep
15:12 <@Dagmar> Well, until the tank runs dry
15:13 <@Dagmar> I suppose pushing a 215lb bike is less of an ordeal than a 1500lb bike at least.  Heh
15:13 <@sdodson> 1500lb?
15:13 <@Dagmar> Honda Rebel
15:13 <@sdodson> Like a tractor trailer motorcycle?
15:13 <@Dagmar> Scooters tend to be 50cc, 125cc, 250cc engines
15:14 <@Dagmar> ...so they don't weigh nearly as much as a "hog"
15:14 <@sdodson> Honda Rebel curb weight is 331lbs
15:15 <@Dagmar> Okay, Honda Goldwing then
15:15 <@sdodson> Goldwing curbweight is ~900lbs
15:16 <@Dagmar> Hello, this is me not giving a shit
15:16 <@Dagmar> When I've parked my scooter on your testicles at Phreaknic we'll see just how interested in being pedantic about weights you are
15:18 <@sdodson> Pedantic? you're off by a factor or ATLEAST two
15:18 <@sdodson> Harleys are coming in at less than 1000lbs
15:19 <@Dagmar> Clearly, sdodson thinks I won't actually test my theory.
15:20 <@sdodson> Dagmar: You are my hero, today and forever.
15:20 <@sdodson> You espouse bullshit, get called out on it, and then get cranky?
15:21 <@Dagmar> No, I fudge in a figure I don't care about, and doesn't particularly matter as to it's exactness, and you want to turn it into an argument.
15:21 <@Dagmar> Get laid already.
15:23 <@sdodson> Then let it go, simple as "Oh ya, I guess it doesn't weight 1500lbs"
15:23 <@sdodson> weigh
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15:35 < AstralSin> fuck me silly, this tea + the cinnamon muffin thing i'm eating = amazing
15:37 <@Dagmar> Damnit.  Bost is closed on Sundays
15:38 <@Dagmar> Doesn't seem to matter what day I'm looking at.  Whatever store I need to go to is always closed on that day.
15:40 <@Catonic> Can't we all just get along?
15:40  * Catonic ducks
15:41 <@Catonic> Dagmar: what kind of scooter did you buy?
15:41 <@Dagmar> http://strmotorsports.com/showroom/scooters/agility125/index.html
15:41 <@Dagmar> I guess I'll settle for putting those stickers I've got on it and doing a bit of riding as it cools off
15:42 <@Dagmar> Maybe a haircut
15:42 <@Dagmar> I don't want to leave it outside without something serious to strap it to a telephone pole with
15:43 <@Dagmar> ...and if they give me shit about that here, I'll start running the cable around my car's axle
15:43 <@Dagmar> Getting the fucker into and out of the apartment is a huge pain in the ass
15:44 <@Dagmar> Catonic: They really should tell you that longish hair (my hair hasn't been this long since HS) and full face helmets don't mix well
15:44 <@Dagmar> Note, if you look into one of these things, and have a GIANT AMERICAN HEAD the underseat compartment for helmets won't work.  ;)
15:45 <@Dagmar> I may go back to Howard's and get a little half-helmet with a snap on visor or something
15:45 <@Dagmar> Even the XXL was trying to rip my ears off
15:45 <@Catonic> Not an issue since I don't have long hair
15:45 <@Dagmar> Mine's not exactly "long"
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15:45 <@Catonic> nice little toy though, look like wontonjoe's old bike.
15:45 <@Dagmar> It's long "enough" that it just about reaches my eyes in the front
15:46 <@Dagmar> 10 minutes of having the helmet on tho, when I pulled it off I had instant emo hair
15:46 <@Catonic> http://strmotorsports.com/showroom/scooters/agility125/AGILITY125_08-01.jpg <- and they have to put that image there to show you at the girls won't just run off and laugh at you
15:46 <@Catonic> lmfao...
15:46 <@Catonic> "EMO KID!!!"
15:46 <@Dagmar> I have a big dick.
15:46 <@Dagmar> I'm not worried about what women think of the bike
15:47 <@Catonic> Hey, I'm not questioning your masculinity. :-p
15:47 <@Dagmar> Yeah I was way too frazzled at Howard's when I was buying this
15:47 <@Catonic> I only ride a bicycle to work...
15:47 <@Dagmar> The salesman asked if I'd thought about buying something larger and I told him flat out "I already have a big dick"
15:48 <@Dagmar> He likes my sense of humor.  heh
15:48 <@Catonic> That would be a fun line to pull in all sorts of dealerships.
15:48 <@Dagmar> I do believe they like how readily people are buying scooters
15:49 <@Dagmar> ...and there's a LOT more of them on the road now than there were six months ago
15:49 <@Catonic> c'est la vie.
15:49 <@Catonic> Though if I'm going bike, I'm going to something like a Kawasaki Vulcan or a Honda Rebel.
15:49 <@Dagmar> Around Belmont/Vandy they're about to outnumber motorcycles
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15:49 <@Dagmar> Well, I gots me a two year warranty, and an engine small enough I can work on it without a crane
15:49 <@Catonic> Wontonjoe has a 250 Honda Rebel, and it's a nice bike, though it runs rich.
15:50 <@Dagmar> That was always the stopper for me with major car engine stuff.
15:50 <@Catonic> He rides his bike like I drive my Accord.
15:50 <@Dagmar> With no fear of mechanical failure?
15:50 <@Catonic> My transmission is already failing.
15:50 <@Dagmar> Accord == the unstoppable zombie of motorcars
15:51 <@Dagmar> Yeah my Accord LX went out that way
15:51 <@Catonic> Took it to honda and they gave me a little sheet that says "P01780: Replace Transmission".
15:51 <@Dagmar> ...with pencil under that saying "shoot it"
15:51 <@Dagmar> Makes scary crunching sounds does it?
15:51 <@Catonic> and there is no stick-shift variant unless you want to make a franken-honda-acura
15:52 <@Catonic> No, just shifts hard from 1-2 and 2-3.
15:52 <@Dagmar> Oh you've got a lot of miles to go then
15:52 <@Catonic> The crux of the matter is that there's something failing in there and IIRC it's generating crap in the fluid.
15:52 <@Dagmar> Mine was shifting noticeably like the last 40k miles
15:52 <@Catonic> crap in tiny spaces that are particular about particulates, generates hard shifts.
15:52 <@Dagmar> Welll, something failing like that means something is grinding down
15:53 <@Catonic> So I do what I did with the Caprice, and anticipate my shifts so I remove most of the force from the engine when its shifting.
15:53 <@Dagmar> You could probably slow the degradation up a bit if you got the transmission flushed, but seems like it means that basically, something in there has hit it's end of life and is crumbling away on ya
15:53 <@Dagmar> Yep that's pretty much the way I drove the LX.
15:53 <@Catonic> Such is the way of life with an American-sourced honda.
15:53 <@Dagmar> I got used to when it was going to catch so I'd feather the pedal a bit
15:54 <@Dagmar> Other than that it had zero unexpected failures
15:54 <@Dagmar> The beemer is turning out to be about the same way
15:54 <@Dagmar> Only once has it failed to start, and that was because of a batch of bad gas
15:54 <@Catonic> What's really funny about it is that there are -lots- of problems with the V6, but only a handful of 77K mile LXs that show up... and those are the ones that got driven like a taxi.
15:54 <@Dagmar> I don't put more than a 1/4 tank in anywhere now
15:55 <@Dagmar> 77k?
15:55 <@Dagmar> Mine was at 240k when it's transmission gave out
15:55 <@Catonic> 77k and transmission goes kaput.
15:55 <@Dagmar> I suspect Honda has learned something about their parts supply chain then
15:55 <@Catonic> mine made it to 103K (so far). I bought the car with 97K on it.
15:55 <@Catonic> they recalled 2000-2001, but refuse to admit a problem with 2002: "It's been fixed."
15:56 <@Dagmar> Yeah the guy I bought mine from mentioned something about that being a sign the one he was selling me didn't have the 77k tranny in it
15:56 <@Catonic> so for $3016.17, they'll replace the trans.
15:56 <@Dagmar> Original transmission, at 200k+ miles
15:56 <@Dagmar> Holy shit get a second estimate
15:56 <@Dagmar> The next guy will probably say $2k or less
15:56 <@Catonic> Nah, it's a dealership job.
15:57 <@Catonic> I should have done the same with the Caprice.. Replacing it's trans was $2300, dealership wanted $2700 for it.
15:57 <@Catonic> when you figure in the devaluation of the dollar since then, it's not out of line.
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15:58 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but 1) a dealership == high-end cost and 2) for three grand there's bound to be someone who can/will do it cheaper
15:58 <@Catonic> However, I am extremely pissed that I quit driving the Caprice because it was costing me $50 a tank, and now the Accord is costing me $50 a tank.
15:58 <@Dagmar> Heh.
15:58 <@Catonic> Dagmar: stealership means warranty.
15:58 <@Dagmar> Catonic: There's other places that will warranty what they put in
15:59 <@Catonic> Anywho.. gotta run an errand or two.
15:59 <@Dagmar> Mr. Transmission used to be where I got a lot of work done because they'll lifetime warranty (as in "so long as you own this vehicle") the stuff
15:59 <@Dagmar> I got 2 free muffler replacements from them
16:00 <@Dagmar> There was another place I used to do that with brakes for, too
16:00 <@Dagmar> "wait, you'll warranty repair worn-out brake pads?"  "Umm... yes."  "Let's do this then"
16:01 <@Dagmar> My dad was impressed with the lack of loud the scooter demonstrated
16:01 <@Dagmar> I do like that it's not ludicrously loud
16:13 <@sdodson> Aren't they pretty quiet in general?
16:17 <@sdodson> Bah, my mythtv machine really can't keep video and audio in sync
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16:27 <@juice> SkyDog_, nice
16:27 <@juice> http://www.evilmofo.com/images/defcon/16/2008_0592.jpg
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16:44 <@Catonic> juice: nsfw tags, plz
16:44 <@juice> huh?
16:47 <@aestetix> god damnit
16:47 <@aestetix> My NES crashed
16:48 <@Catonic> yoah.
16:48 <@Catonic> *woah
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17:18 <@dc0de> weeee
17:19 <@dc0de> the wx station is now up and transmitting!
17:19 <+MaxieZ> wx?
17:19 <@dc0de> weather
17:19 <+MaxieZ> ah
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17:24 <@juice> oh Catonic sorry
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17:54 < AstralSin> http://twitpic.com/832q
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17:56 <@Catonic> dc0de: alllo
17:56 <@dc0de> sup Catonic
17:56 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: next time you come to a con, do tell us.
17:56 <@dc0de> http://dc0de.com/weather/wx.html
17:56 <@Catonic> 'cause ah, when we're rolling in vegas, we're all brothers.
17:57 <@sdodson> why's that?
17:57 <@Catonic> 'cause it's vegas bay-bee
17:58 <@Catonic> dc0de: what did that weather station cost you?
17:59 <@Catonic> dc0de: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/audio/tvq.html
18:00 <@dc0de> Catonic: it's an Oregon Scientific WMR968
18:00 <@dc0de> it was like $275
18:02 <@sdodson> I still don't understand the purpose of personal weather stations.
18:02 <@dc0de> sdodson: that's cool...
18:02 <@sdodson> What information do they provide that's not already available as an RSS feed or by stepping outside?
18:02 <@dc0de> my daughter is learning meteorology, so I guess it's better to just read about it.
18:02 <@Catonic> sdodson: something to do. And it's actually useful to the national weather service, believe it or not
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18:05 <@sdodson> Do they all feed data back to NOAA / NWS?
18:05 <@Catonic> not directly, usually people coordinate it on some level
18:05 <@Catonic> we do in ham radio..
18:06 <@dc0de> yes, the CWO is feeding data back to NOAA
18:06 <@Catonic> http://www.wxqa.com/
18:07 <@dc0de> http://home.comcast.net/~dshelms/cwop.html
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18:15 <@Catonic> I read a rather interesting few messages on a higher-ed mailing list a few days ago that made me think about the psychology of some people who use computers.
18:21 <@Catonic> http://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0808&L=HIED-EMAILADMIN&D=1&T=0&P=17066
18:21 <@dc0de> sdodson: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=DW1158
18:21 <@dc0de> that data goes to NOAA
18:29 <+MaxieZ> Sorry Catonic.  I didn't know you were headed there honestly, or I would have said so
18:30 <+MaxieZ> I think I sold my bosses on it's value and may be able to get there from this point on.  We'll see
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20:03 < geoffscoffee> evenin
20:05 <@ladymerlin> heya geoffscoffee
20:05 < geoffscoffee> hey lady, you go to Vegas?
20:05 <@ladymerlin> yup
20:05 < geoffscoffee> how'd it go?
20:06 <@ladymerlin> it was a blast
20:06 < geoffscoffee> nice
20:08 < geoffscoffee> SD have fun too?
20:08 < geoffscoffee> meaning, did he hurt himself in an embarrasing way
20:09 <@ladymerlin> hehehe
20:09 <@ladymerlin> yeah he hadfun
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20:34 <@Catonic> I wonder how Gappy is doing now...
20:37 <@dc0de> he hasn't gone to the dentist yet... but I'm checking...
20:37 <@dc0de> quiet might have some new pics...
20:40 <@sdodson> gappy?
20:41 <@dc0de> Pappy, one of the goons, lost a tooth, and became known as Gappy.
20:42 <@sdodson> how'd he lose a tooth?
20:42 <@dc0de> on another goon's head.
20:42 <@Catonic> what was the goon with the leopard print hair?
20:43 <@dc0de> yup
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20:51 <@Catonic> no,who is he?
20:55 <@Catonic> his handle
20:58 <@sdodson> YOUR DADDY!
21:01 <@sdodson> why my incronet so sloowww?
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21:19 < dasunt> Woot, 1,500+ miles on the bike.
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21:31 <@sdodson> dasunt: what bike computer do you use?
21:33 <@brimstone> it's a goldfish that slaps the spokes
21:33 <@brimstone> he loses a scale every mile
21:33 <@sdodson> brimstone: why you so whack?
21:33 <@brimstone> i blame the goldfish
21:48 < dasunt> sdodson: Simple one by Sigma.  BC1606, IIRC.
21:49 < dasunt> Has spedometer, cadence meter, odometer.
21:50 <@sdodson> cadence meter requires sensors on the crank?
21:59 <@Catonic> jeebs
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22:00 < dasunt> Yep.
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22:04 <@Catonic> i do not have that many miles on my bike
22:04 <@Catonic> and it's falling apart
22:08 < wrench___> hey all. Anyone know a good breed of dog that is suitable for an apartment? One that has a relatively low requirement for time spent outdoors?
22:09 <@sdodson> A cat.
22:09 <@Catonic> pretty much. Cats don't bark.
22:09 <@sdodson> And they shit and piss in one place.
22:10 <@sdodson> They do however destroy your furniture, hock up hairballs and otherwise make for a shitty situation.
22:10 < wrench___> I don't know if I could get along with a cat.
22:10 <@sdodson> I do well because we both just sort of ignore each other.
22:10 <@Evilpig> wrench___: can you ignore an animal?
22:10 <@sdodson> Great for antisocial assholes.
22:11 < wrench___> Evilpig: what do you mean?
22:11 <@Evilpig> well if you can pretend a cat isn't even in the room then you can get along with one
22:11 < wrench___> ha nice
22:11 <@Evilpig> I haven't seen either of mine in hours.  I assume they are sleeping somewhere
22:11 <@mtown_nerd> But why have a pet you intend to ignore?  why not just ... not have a pet and save yourself the expense?  :x
22:12 <@sdodson> The only time my cat wants my attention is when I'm shaving or brushing my teeth.
22:12 <@Evilpig> mine generally jump up on the bed when I am going to sleep and they come into the bathroom int he morning when I get ready to leave
22:12 <@sdodson> Shaving while avoiding claws is no fun.
22:12 <@Evilpig> the rest of the time they entertain each other
22:12 <@sdodson> Oh ya, mine is all about pawing me while I'm dropping off the kids.
22:13 <@sdodson> Ick, multiple cats.
22:13 <@mtown_nerd> wrench, I would advise a breed that's mild-mannered, doesn't shed, and relatively small.  Larger dogs can make decent apt dogs, but a lot of the larger breeds are considered sport or utility breeds, meaning they HAVE to ahve a job to do or they start getting destructive, whiney, etc.
22:14 < wrench___> mtown_nerd: Do you think a Jack Russel Terrier would be too hyper?
22:14 <@mtown_nerd> If shedding isn't that big of a deal, then you have a lot of options
22:14 < wrench___> mtown_nerd: yeah shedding is no good...maybe I should stick with fish.
22:14 <@sdodson> I'd say get one that'll pick up women but those all seem to be these mutant devil spawn miniture great danes or something equally absurd.
22:14 <@mtown_nerd> Wrench, it's not so much taht they're hyper - which they are - but they have to have something to do.  They're the type that, because they have a lot of energy, and because they were basically bred to hunt, they're easily bored.  bored pooch in small space =/= fun
22:15 < wrench___> true true.
22:15 <@mtown_nerd> I personally dno't really like them, but poodles make fantastic apt dogs
22:15 <@sdodson> your shoes = fun
22:15 <@mtown_nerd> because they don't shed, are mild mannered, and don't really HAVE to have a dog
22:15 <@mtown_nerd> I'm really partial to Corgies. :)
22:15 <@mtown_nerd> dog = job
22:16 <@mtown_nerd> Corgies are impossibly cute, small, fairly low-maintenance from what I understand, though I've never myself owned one.
22:16  * mtown_nerd pref's the Pembroke Welsh Corgies
22:16 <@sdodson> Not that any other breed of dog is any better than others, but these little purse sized geneticly engineered things piss me off.
22:16 <@mtown_nerd> lol
22:16 < wrench___> I like corgies...yeah I probably don't want the responsibility that a dog will inevitably require.
22:16 <@sdodson> FUCK YOU PARIS HILTON! THIS IS ALL YOUR DOING!
22:16 <@mtown_nerd> Actually, breeds of dogs vary HUGEly.  They're not as homogenous in that regard like cats are.
22:17 < wrench___> Really what I need is a sweet dog and someone to take care of it as well.
22:17 <@sdodson> Are cocker spaniels nice?
22:17 < wrench___> or possibly a cure for lazy
22:17 <@sdodson> They seem small and cute.
22:17 <@mtown_nerd> wrench, honestly, if you're not willing to give it attention, properly train/house break it, then don't get one.  :/   That's just me being preachy, I guess....   but ... I hate seeing people claim the want a dog, but they get one and then don't even attempt to take care of it.
22:17 <@mtown_nerd> Cocker spaniels are good dogs, but many consider them a tad on the hyper side
22:18 <@mtown_nerd> They're not as bad as springers
22:18 <@sdodson> Ya.
22:18 <@mtown_nerd> I personally perfer the look and personalities of springer spaniels
22:18 <@mtown_nerd> Between the two, I'd def. have one of those.
22:18 <@sdodson> brimstone: is phneak dead?
22:18 < wrench___> mtown_nerd: you're right...honestly I don't have the room or time for a dog just yet. If I ever happen to live in a place with a yard...I'll jump back on the dog wagon.
22:18 <@mtown_nerd> I'm personally a Doberman Pinscher fan, but those dont' really fall into the low-maintenance category.  heh
22:18 < wrench___> sdodson: I got disconnected too.
22:18 <@sdodson> wrench___: cool
22:19 <@sdodson> guess there are problems
22:19 <@mtown_nerd> lol  A noble thing ... but don't let the lack of a yard sway you if you *are* willing to go all the way with it.  Dogs are adaptable... you just have to take their breed into consideration.  :)
22:19 < wrench___> mtown_nerd: dobermans are sweet
22:19 <@mtown_nerd> I had a Doberman Pinscher as an apartment dog, and though she went through her typical puppy years of being a brat, she was fantastic.
22:19 <@mtown_nerd> <3333333333 Dobies
22:19 <@mtown_nerd> By far my favorite breed.
22:19 < wrench___> right on
22:19 <@sdodson> they're pretty strict about picking up after your dog around here
22:20 <@sdodson> all these finicky girls around here tie their dog's shit sack to their collar
22:20 <@sdodson> coller?
22:20 <@mtown_nerd> We fortunately had a giant field out behind our apartmetns that NO one ever went into.  So... I never worried about it so long as it was reasonable.
22:20 < wrench___> sdodson: yeah I forgot about all the fecal luggage I'd be toting on a day-to-day basis. F that.
22:21 <@mtown_nerd> lol
22:21 <@mtown_nerd> I'd hoenstly rather do that than clean out a nasty-ass litter box.  :[
22:21 <@mtown_nerd> But ...  meh...that's just me.
22:21 <@mtown_nerd> I'd honestly own a dog or two right now, but ... I'm not at a point in my life where I'm ready.  My Dobie, unfortunately for her, taught me that.
22:21 <@sdodson> I just go through a crazy amount of litter.
22:21 <@mtown_nerd> So... for now, I suffer a cat in her stead.  He's fun, I guess.  But he's not a dog.  :[
22:22 <@sdodson> my cat fetches pretty well
22:22 <@mtown_nerd> And he's not my Lexi-pants.  :'(
22:22 < wrench___> what I need is a monkey that flings its poo off my balcony, knows how to use hand sanitizing lotion, and swipes purses from old ladies.
22:22 <@mtown_nerd> lol
22:22 <@mtown_nerd> ...  erm...  can't help ya there, bro.
22:22 <@mtown_nerd> I can talk dogs, not monkeys.  :p
22:22 < wrench___> right on...if you hear somethin...let me know
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22:24 <@someninjamaster> sup wrench
22:25 <@mtown_nerd> TF2 time
22:25 <@mtown_nerd> Good luck on the pet hunt, wrench. :]
22:26 < wrench___> mtown_nerd: thanks for the advice and such
22:26 < wrench___> someninjamaster: whatup dude
22:27 <@someninjamaster> just got finished installing brush bars on the atv
22:27 <@someninjamaster> how was the ride today
22:27 < wrench___> you like em? It was good man...little sunburned but it was a blast!
22:28 < wrench___> you been riding ur enduro much lately?
22:29 <@Catonic> dude, can you do something about the underscores?
22:29 <@someninjamaster> i didnt get a chance to today
22:30 <@someninjamaster> but i plan on taking it on the street tommorrow
22:30 <@someninjamaster> driveing from my house to the grandparents
22:30 <@someninjamaster> its maybe half a mile
22:30 < wrench___> Catonic: I think that wrench w/o underscores is taken
22:31 < wrench___> someninjamaster: will that be ur first time on the street with it?
22:31 <@someninjamaster> no i drove it up there a couple days after i bought it
22:31 <@Catonic> wrench___: you ride a bike?
22:31 < wrench___> Catonic: yup I ride an 04 R6...you?
22:33 <@someninjamaster> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/someninjamaster/photo-15.jpg
22:33 <@someninjamaster> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/someninjamaster/back-1.jpg
22:33 <@someninjamaster> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/someninjamaster/bike.jpg
22:35 < wrench___> someninjamaster: looks nice!
22:35 <@someninjamaster> thanks
22:37 <@Catonic> wrench___: I ride an 06 Huffy: http://catonic.us/wigi/pics/bike/
22:37 < wrench___> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/someninjamaster/photo-15.
22:38 < wrench___> shit wrong key...was copying Catonics link
22:38 < wrench___> ha nice dude! What's the radar gun for? You an undercover pedal pig?
22:40 <@Catonic> I had to take it off because it wasn't working worth a damn
22:40 <@Catonic> I swapped over to my father's bushnell and found out I could hit 30 on the downhill
22:41 < wrench___> Catonic: that's pretty impressive when you've only got bicycle brakes!
22:42 <@someninjamaster> haha
22:42 <@someninjamaster> pedal pig
22:43 < wrench___> have any other nashvillians seen those moped pigs downtown? I was eating a sandwich outside near that park where all the bums congergate...and I saw three cops on these wicked looking black mopeds cruise by on the sidewalk!
22:44 <@Catonic> I'm sure the drivers love it when I blow through the redlight, pedal up to the next intersection getting my doors blown off by cars, and then passing them again as I blow through the next redlight
22:44 <@Catonic> but I do this because I want to be pretty and healthy, not just because it costs me a lot less in gas.
22:48 < M0j0-j0j0> my commute is 25miles.. so ... given the distance and the chance of weather change.... I don't think that biking is an option
22:49 <@Catonic> Mine is 1.5 miles, and it's mostly downhill. 15 minutes by car, and then time to find a parking space, or 9 minutes at the side door of the building, parking my bike in my office.
22:50 <@Catonic> lol
22:50 <@Catonic> I just got the pedal pig bit...
22:50 <@Catonic> I suppose you didn't get the memo that I used to own an undercover police car...
22:50  * Catonic hears a blues riff
22:51 < M0j0-j0j0> I used to own an undercover police...
22:52 < M0j0-j0j0> not true
22:54 < M0j0-j0j0> actually, I had a decent friendship with the guy after his undercover gig was up
22:56 <@someninjamaster> there are people that bike in my area
22:56 <@someninjamaster> because of all the hills
22:57 <@someninjamaster> but the speed limit is 45 with blind curves
22:57 <@someninjamaster> so drivers hate them
22:57 < M0j0-j0j0> but not enough to kill them
22:57 <@someninjamaster> some have came quite close to being killed
22:58 <@someninjamaster> one of the judges that live on my street is looking into seeing if its possable to get an ordinace for that area saying no biking
22:58 <@someninjamaster> since they have caused a couple car wrecks
22:59 < M0j0-j0j0> maybe it needs to be a no car zone
23:00 <@someninjamaster> good point
23:00 < M0j0-j0j0> anyways.. I have to get up early to go get my new tags for the truck
23:01 < M0j0-j0j0> sweet dreams
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23:07 <@Catonic> six of one, half dozen of another
23:07 <@Catonic> think about how massachusetts is
23:08 <@Catonic> do they take the approach of governing becuase they want to stop people from hurting themselves, or because people are not using good judgement in actions?
23:14 <@Catonic> In retrospect, I should have grabbed a rackshelf when I was up north, knowing I had three that were idle.
23:16 <@Catonic> ok, I've had it. I must go pull the fucking thing out of the rack...
23:16 <@Catonic> bbl, rebooting... EVERYthing.
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