--- Log opened Wed Aug 13 00:00:53 2008
00:05  * eryc flags as offensive
00:05 < eryc> no boobs allowed on the tubes!
00:06 <@Dagmar> Damn this is the last time I buy cyanocrylate glue in little foil tubes.
00:06 <@Dagmar> I'm goign to be peeling my fingers for days
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00:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Home science under attack:  http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/home_science_under_attack.html  SFW
00:57 <@Dagmar> Corydon: I'm on it, so to speak
00:57 <@Dagmar> Corydon: feel free to recommend  http://www.memestreams.net/users/dagmar/blogid10329899/
00:57 <@Dagmar> Hell I even printed it out and stuck it on the bulletin board at Bongo Java
00:58 <@Dagmar> Unquestionably, the way that was handled is unacceptable.
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01:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: last sentence "would have been".  Kurt Vonnegut is dead.
01:00 <@Corydon76-dig> not "would be"
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01:01 <@Dagmar> I am not worrying about that mode in an informal voice posting.
01:01 <@Dagmar> Past tense is close enough
01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Nitpicking, but isn't 'would be' future perfect?
01:02 <@Dagmar> yes.
01:03 <@Dagmar> We can't very well ask him, but he hasn't been queried yet about it
01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> He'll never respond.  ;-)
01:03 <@Dagmar> yeah, so there's no reasonable failure state.  Heh
01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> So apparently my Amitriptyline has a street value...
01:15 <@critch> Dagmar: I have a pandora battery for the PSP in case you want to mod yours sometime
01:18 <@Dagmar> Okay
01:19 <@Dagmar> I'm just starting to look at the video stuff they've added
01:19 <@Dagmar> Seems nice.  I haven't used it yet, but it's got some stuff at least.
01:19 <@Dagmar> I want into that damn Home beta
01:19 <@Dagmar> Hands down you know they will have the option of having a TV in a virtual space that you could watch something on
01:19 <@critch> I have a ssh client on the psp now
01:20 <@Dagmar> Cool
01:20 <@Dagmar> Hey doesn't skype like, cost money to call "real" phones?
01:20 <@Dagmar> I had it call my cell phone last night while screwing around with it.
01:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Yep
01:20 <@critch> oh, and with the use of vlc and my hd homerun, I expect I can use it as a small TV in the house
01:20 <@Dagmar> I'm not thinking they're going to charge me two cents for the mandatory minute or something, I'm just suprised it put the call *through* when I was just lying in bed going "Hmm... lemme poke at this skype thing"
01:21 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: you going to make it to Astricon this year?
01:21 <@critch> doubt it
01:21 <@Dagmar> I gave it no payment information, didn't even have to validate an account, and they don't have any credit card info on me at Sony either
01:21 <@Corydon76-dig> This would be my first year to attend
01:21 <@critch> where is it?
01:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Phoenix
01:22 <@critch> oh, then that is a definite no
01:22 <@Corydon76-dig> and I'm doing a talk
01:22 <@critch> glad that came out in the order it did
01:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
01:23 <@critch> I don't see the benefit of going to me. I am not really an asterisk developer anymore. My one primary use of asterisk is real damn stable.
01:24 <@critch> Rick and I recently sat back in awe of the amount of calls our code runs, and until the last few days, we hadn't found any bugs.
01:24 <@critch> New customer has us excersizing code that was hastily written 2 years ago, not well tested and then never really used.
01:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, I think I solved one of Rick's bugs here recently
01:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Not sure if he realized it was me
01:25 <@critch> hmm, didn't know Rick was doing anymore asterisk work
01:26 <@Corydon76-dig> M12939
01:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, wait, MuffinMan isn't in here
01:26 <@Corydon76-dig> http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12939
01:27 <@critch> hmm, cool.
01:27 <@critch> luckily all our bugs are out in the AGI script.
01:28 <@critch> was kind of fun tracking down a perl logic bug today.
01:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
01:28 <@critch> Had the pain of the unintended false that '0' caused.
01:30 <@critch> one of our clients is using some medical record numbers with leading zeros, and our code wasn't always accepting the leading zero. found out that the times it didn't accept it was due to it being entered during the prompt asking for the number. Buffered event was returning false and being dropped.
01:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, '0' or 0?
01:30 <@Corydon76-dig> "0" should be true; 0 is false
01:31 <@critch> well, I guess it was the number 0, but we had been adding it to a string via .=
01:31 <@Corydon76-dig> There's only 3 things that are false in Perl, undef, 0, and "" (the empty string)
01:32 <@critch> I thought there was also a false
01:32 <@Corydon76-dig> That's undef.
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01:33 <@Corydon76-dig> the fun brainfuck:  "false" is true.
01:33 <@critch> hmm, odd, this doesn't work as expected, perl -e 'if(not false){print "hi\n";};print "\n";'
01:34 < Drag0n-ru> true is false, yes is no, and no is yes, and everything is mabey
01:34 <@Corydon76-dig> No "true" is true, but "false" is also true
01:34 <@critch> oh well, I need to go to bed.
01:35 <@Dagmar> Did false become a special word?
01:35 <@critch> long day tomorrow, and hoping for a long evening
01:35 <@Corydon76-dig> not to my knowledge
01:35 < Drag0n-ru> long week here
01:35 <@Dagmar> critch: Did you *define* false?
01:35 < Drag0n-ru> and its only half way through
01:35 <@critch> nope, just entered that line as you see it
01:35 <@Dagmar> I think perl somewhat expects you to not need to say things like "true" or "false"
01:36 <@Dagmar> I don't recall having seen them as operators before.
01:36 <@Dagmar> I mean, they give you while, unless, until, and if, so it's not like you'd even need more than true() to begin with
01:36 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm sure some library has: use constant FALSE => 0;
01:37 <@Dagmar> To put it another way... perl -e 'if(MESHUGGAH){print "hi\n";};print "\n";'
01:37 <@Dagmar> Does the same thing
01:37 <@Dagmar> not MESHUGGAH too.  ;)
01:37 <@Dagmar> Guess what the default value of the MESHUGGA token is.  ;)
01:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Are barewords evaluated as variables or strings?
01:38 <@Corydon76-dig> barewords are a nasty habit, so I don't remember what it does
01:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, first letter capitalized is treated as a glob, first letter lowercase is treated like a string
01:41 <@Dagmar> ...and false() apparently doesn't exist anywya
01:41 <@Dagmar> I can sort of barely remember havign to define it as a constant long, long ago.
01:42 <@Corydon76-dig> right 'perldoc -f false'
01:43 <@Dagmar> ...then I just basically stopped bothering to use true or false explicitly
01:43 <@Dagmar> Too easy to use unless()
01:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Read a blog post by a guy I've disagreed with forever... Same old line, things needs to change, blah, blah, blah, oh, and he's seeking VC funding for his company where he's going to change this
01:46 <@Corydon76-dig> His whole thing is that his scripting extension to ruby is the greatest thing ever to happen to Asterisk
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01:58 <@rattle> http://sexiestgeeksalive.com/money-for-me-databases-for-you-privacy-whatever/
02:00 <@Dagmar> AWESOME
02:00 <@Dagmar> We need to get him drunk and see if we can get him to talk about the government at Phreaknic
02:02 <@Dagmar> wagnerrp: you gotta see this bit of video of a friend of mine http://sexiestgeeksalive.com/money-for-me-databases-for-you-privacy-whatever/
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02:30 <@rattle> I agree..  http://www.memestreams.net/users/rattle/blogid10329907/
02:30 <@Dagmar> I dunno about Jello.
02:30 <@Dagmar> He's pretty hilarious
02:31 <@Catonic> this year's HOPE rant was something of a rerun from a previous rant.
02:31 <@rattle> Yes, but he goes off the rails into some place not connected with reality whenever he proposes a solution to anything.  I like Jello, but I can't see him as anything other than entertainment.
02:32 <@Catonic> note to self: yes, you can play "Will It Float" with your liver. Do not ever attempt to again.
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02:42 <@aestetix> what it is
02:42 <@Catonic> it is what it is
02:44 <@Catonic> right now, hot tub + adult swim.
02:56 <@Catonic> My reflections on recent travel: Memphis is the Inner-City Greyhound Station of airports.
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03:27 < Drag0n-ru> "it" is a word used to describe an item or inanimate object that someone doesnt want to name. That is what "it" is!
03:28 < Drag0n-ru> word
03:33 <@wontonjoe> i return
03:44 <@Catonic> http://www.dieselsweeties.com/archive/2078 <- lmfao
03:45 <@Catonic> wontonjoe: I have been to memphis. And minneapolis.
03:45 <@Catonic> row 14D-E-F was Mobile, Decatur, and Birmingham.
03:45 <@Catonic> Mobile was sick, but she had some kind of west-coast flu
03:47 <@Catonic> xkcd
03:56 <@aestetix> vagina
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04:00 <@Catonic> vagiiiiiinaaaaaaa
04:00 <@Catonic> too much monty python in my youth
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04:04 <@aestetix> hey
04:04 <@aestetix> is there a tool that lets you view multiple twitter feeds side by side?
04:13 <@Catonic> like feedon feeds?
04:14 <@Catonic> hrm... so what happens if I chain a spam filter to a firewall...
04:14 <@aestetix> maybe?
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04:15 <@Catonic> if(isspam == 1) ; $pfadd reject from $host with icmp_source_quench...
04:15 <@Catonic> or another though... You won't follow RFC, do you follow TCP?
04:16 <@Catonic> perhaps the solution is to reimplement icmp source quench with .45 shells...
04:16 <@Catonic> or sharks with lasers!!!!
04:28 <@Catonic> what's it come to when you can't even get decent ridicule at 420 in the morning?
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05:12 <@aestetix> ding dong
05:19 < Drag0n-ru> dang
05:38 <@Catonic> ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
05:41 < Drag0n-ru> ring a ding ding, my ding a ling a ling ding
05:42 <@aestetix> wow I started a trend of boredom
05:43 < Drag0n-ru> bordom in in russia
05:43 <@Catonic> dude... that's Jesus Built My Hotrod by Ministry
05:43 <@Catonic> I just realized that I am almost never bored.
05:45 <@Catonic> aestetix: work with XML or AJAX any?
05:45 <@aestetix> Yes.
05:46 <@aestetix> Why
05:47 <@Catonic> just thinking about various things...
05:47 <@Catonic> I need to make an AJAX website for myself and haven't the foggiest idea how to start that
05:47 <@aestetix> It's easy as shit.
05:48 <@Catonic> I'm not used to wrapping my head around an arbritrary concept right out of the box.
05:49 <@Catonic> was also thinking that since microsoft went to xml + zip for documents that it would be much easier to implement a daily notes or journal system by just dropping attachements into the XML stream and referencing them at the appropriate times in the text.
05:49 <@Catonic> like laTeX on steriods, as it were.
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06:25 <@brimstone> http://www.aiso.net/index.asp
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06:36 < TheLightCosine> morning folks
06:36 <@brimstone> hi
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06:45 < Drag0n-ru> afternoon
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07:10 < Shadow404> meow
07:21 <@brimstone> hi Shadow404
07:26 < Shadow404> oh hai brimstone
07:27 < Shadow404> smoking a cigar sitting in my new leather chair while on a teleconfrence call, life is good
07:28 < Shadow404> man, this customer is a bitch, glad im just a bystander on this call
07:29 < Shadow404> oh, this is funny, apparently, a couple of us noc engineers are gettig some intro classes into japaneese to help understad soem of our clients better
07:29 < Shadow404> should be sorta fun
07:30 <@Catonic> hellz yeah, you could hook up with some japanapoon
07:30 < Shadow404> i thought i could just suffice with saying domo origato all the time?
07:31 <@Catonic> ich ni san shi go
07:31 < Shadow404> Catonic: again, i like my balls being attached to my body
07:31 <@Catonic> I just like my balls on your forehead.
07:31 < Shadow404> are you fantisizing again?
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07:31 < Shadow404> if so, please dont inform me
07:32 <@brimstone> fantaSIZING!
07:32 <@Catonic> Only to stepladder porn.
07:32 < Shadow404> stepladder?
07:32 < Shadow404> never heard of that fetish
07:32 < Shadow404> care to enlighten?
07:32 <@Catonic> brimstone: I think you may be more preoccupied with sex than I am.
07:33 <@Catonic> Shadow404: I get a ladder, stand on it, and have my balls at about 6'5"... ON OYUR FOREHEAD
07:33 < Shadow404> lawl
07:33 < Shadow404> haha
07:33 < Shadow404> Catonic: so how was the huntsville-fest?
07:33 <@Catonic> Shadow404: hamfest.org, this weekend.
07:33 < Shadow404> or did you miss it for las vegas?
07:33 < Shadow404> oh shit
07:33 < Shadow404> hmm,
07:33 <@Catonic> no, I will not be at the hamfest
07:34 < Shadow404> damn, was gonna drive over and carpool from montgomery
07:34 <@Catonic> first time in 25 years I will not be at the hamfest
07:34 < Shadow404> why not?
07:34 <@I-MOD> does that mean you're going, Shadow404?
07:34 <@Catonic> I hate seeing people get old.
07:34 < Shadow404> I-MOD: cant now, to much gass
07:34 < Shadow404> Catonic: stop being a bitch
07:34 < Shadow404> im not old, we can carpool
07:34 <@Catonic> Shadow404: get your dad to drop you off in that hot little blue number...
07:35 < Shadow404> lawl, so is that a yes, minus the little blue number?
07:35 <@Catonic> Shadow404: yeah, but I've seen the vendors there for the last two decades... everyone knows who I am...
07:35 < Shadow404> damn, 30 minute call complete, i said 3 lines pertaining to his ip space and what ptr's he had, yeah, feel so useful
07:35 <@Catonic> I just can't burn any more vacation, nor do I want to
07:36 < Shadow404> Catonic: fair enough, maybe next time
07:36 < Shadow404> I-MOD: huntsville is to far even with falling gas prices
07:36 < Shadow404> unless i carpooled half way
07:36 <@Catonic> it's about four hours driving, three if you're speedy McCatonic
07:36 <@Catonic> s/speedy/Speedy
07:37 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, i thought you were in nashville...
07:37 < Shadow404> 3 if your edge of life shadow on crotchrocket
07:37 < Shadow404> I-MOD: nah, atlanta man
07:37 < Shadow404> powder springs to be more exact
07:37 < Shadow404> I-MOD: bigblue.homeftp.net
07:37 <@Catonic> crotch rockets you don't have to worry about anything with
07:37 <@Catonic> a crotch rocket in miami is insane....
07:38 <@I-MOD> in that case, you going to d*c?
07:38 < Shadow404> yea, the whole year i planeed to go
07:38 < Shadow404> then i got my vacation time approved right during that
07:38 <@I-MOD> :D
07:38 < Shadow404> so no
07:38 <@I-MOD> fail
07:38 < Shadow404> so i will be in seattle
07:38 < Shadow404> im pissed
07:38 < Shadow404> but not wasting vacation on d*c
07:38 <@Catonic> I think I'm taking the rest of the year off from cons
07:38 < Shadow404> ill be there next year
07:39 <@I-MOD> me and friends are packing 11 in a room
07:39 < Shadow404> Catonic: well, ill be at pn, thats about it for the rest of the year
07:39 <@Catonic> PN I'll probably show up if there's something that we need a sober person for.
07:39 < Shadow404> Catonic: you will be drunk, thats an order
07:39 <@I-MOD> it's going to be quite cozy in there
07:39 < Shadow404> I-MOD: ill get my own room for me and the fiancee'
07:39 <@Catonic> Shadow404: can I sleep on the other bed?
07:39 <@I-MOD> understandable :D
07:40 < Shadow404> Catonic: only if you pay to watch this time
07:40 <@Catonic> pfffft... I get enough of the sound effects from my neighbor
07:40 < Shadow404> last time, you just drooled and made it uncomfortable
07:40 < Shadow404> if we were making profit, it would make a little more sense
07:40 < Shadow404> damn, speaking off, i need to set up my x10
07:41 <@Catonic> I was so wiped out yesterday I didn't give a shit at all... something fell over from my neighbor's antics and I took a cellphone call or two...
07:42 <@Catonic> i think after the second time they heard the phone ring, they settled down
07:43 <@Catonic> I'm sure my coworker thought I was insane when he called me at 440pm for some issue...
07:43 <@Catonic> it was a good ten minutes before I had the slightest clue what he was talking about
07:44 < Shadow404> yep, thats catonic
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07:46 <@Catonic> I wonder if it's cheaper to have a mexican housewife do my laundry or have a washing machine?
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07:48 <@Catonic> Every time I see a link to "JSTORE" I think of JDate
07:48 <@Catonic> cat /dev/urandom
07:49 <@Catonic> | irc
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08:06 <@aestetix> Catonic: if I pay for a hooker at PhreakNIC, will you hit it?
08:18 <@oddball> So... coming into work today I witnessed some asshat run a stop sign... in a school zone... in front of a cop.
08:18 < Shadow404> ticket please!
08:18 <@oddball> oh, and there were definately children present
08:19 < Shadow404> did he get a ticket?
08:19 <@oddball> oh god yes
08:19 <@brimstone> like a fellon!
08:19 < Shadow404> woot
08:20 <@oddball> after the cop did a double take, he rushed over to his car and chased the clown down
08:23 <@oddball> Oh, and the driver seemed suprised/upset that he was ticketed.
08:23 < Dolemite_> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:23 < Dolemite_> oddball : The nerve of some cop, ticketing a guy for driving on a road that he owns!  </sarcasm>
08:24 < Shadow404> i hate assholes that get an attitude when they knowingly break the law and get caught
08:24 <@oddball> no shit
08:24 <@dc0de> moanin Dolemite_
08:24 <@dc0de> who got the ticket?
08:24 < Shadow404> especially when women try to get out of it by showing their goods
08:24 <@oddball> 08:20 <@oddball> So... coming into work today I witnessed some asshat run a stop sign... in a school zone... in front of a cop.
08:24 <@dc0de> Shadow404; you're just jealous...
08:25 <@oddball> And this is one of the school zones in Nashville where kids actually cross the road.
08:26 < Shadow404> dc0de: yah, if i had boobs, i wouldnt be able to keep my hands off them
08:26 < Shadow404> dc0de: how do u cope?
08:26  * Shadow404 ducks
08:27 <@dc0de> Shadow404; I have a woman that has goods.
08:46 <@Evilpig> dc0de: what kind of goods?  rugs?  couches?  food products?
08:47 <@dc0de> Evilpig; all of the above.
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08:48  * aestetix hugs Dolemite_ 
08:48 < Shadow404> um, how do i disconnect from a cpe dsu connection?
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08:49 <@I-MOD> remove the power?
08:49 < Shadow404> hah
08:49 < Shadow404> to bad i can just walk to houston and pull the power cord out
08:49 < Shadow404> *can't
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08:51 <@wizardpc> yay my VMs powered up!
08:52 <@dc0de> crap
08:52 <@dc0de> brb
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08:53  * ware is lookin damn sharp today
08:53 <@wizardpc> court date?
08:53 < Drag0n-ru> he glued a lot of razor blades to his shirt
08:54 <@wizardpc> lol
08:55 <@wizardpc> crap...gotta reboot again.
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09:18 <@wizardpc> I think the new company has throttled me to like 24kbps
09:19 <@wizardpc> my connection is slow as christmas
09:26 <@oddball> Ummm... isn't most of your work remoting into client's boxes?
09:26 <@Dementia> I just got ssh back at work yesterday
09:28 <@I-MOD> they took it away?
09:29 <@Corydon76-dig> It's open source software, so it must be evil
09:38  * Evilpig pokes Dementia 
09:44 <@Dementia> No, they're just dipshits, and they said they'd "never had it open" - except that it stopped working when they put in a new firewall.
09:53 <@timoguin> You're all cancer!
09:57 <@Evilpig> what does that make you?
09:58 <@I-MOD> cancer lover
09:58 <@timoguin> roses.
10:06 <@nachoguy> Nachos!
10:06 < Dolemite_> Canibal!
10:06 < ware> WHORES
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10:06 <@nachoguy> I love the memestreams posting with the video of Decius.  "Money for me, databases for you"
10:07 < ware> pfsense is fucking with me. response time is dick from the lan interface but if i execute it on the wan interface its blazing
10:07 <@nachoguy> privacy is like, whatever.  You ignore privacy, you'll have more data and can have big shiny boxes
10:15 < Shadow404> ware: i thought you were a ceritified sonicwall professional
10:15 < Shadow404> and you cant figure out pfsense
10:15 < Shadow404> bleh
10:15 < ware> http://www.overclock.net/overclock-net-folding-home-team/370859-nitteo-s-f-h-gpu2-farm.html
10:16 < ware> Shadow404: fuck off
10:16 < Shadow404> lawl
10:16 < ware> im surprised you know what traceroute is
10:16 < ware> or wan
10:16 <@Evilpig> pfsense does some freaky bullshit
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10:17 < ware> im thinking about replacing it
10:18 < ware> ive got a tz190 but it doesnt do shaping, granted im not a believer in pfSense's shaping abilities
10:18 <@Shadow404> anyone run icv -h for monitoring?
10:18 < ware> [ware@krun ~]$ traceroute ware.is.a.network.dj
10:18 < ware> traceroute to ware.is.a.network.dj (66.254.115.199), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1  hotbox (192.168.1.1)  0.617 ms  0.459 ms  0.327 ms 2  * * * 3  * * * 4  * * *
10:19 <@Shadow404> ouch
10:19 <@Shadow404> and you have a box called 'hotbox'?
10:19 <@Evilpig> he stole the name from me
10:19 <@Shadow404> wow, just plain wow
10:19 < ware> yeah i stole it from evilpig back in the day
10:19 <@Evilpig> hotbox.icscci.com
10:19 <@Shadow404> well, thats ok
10:20 <@Shadow404> he stole kho whil you were dating her too
10:20 <@Evilpig> but all my servers are named somethingbox
10:20  * Shadow404 ducks
10:20 < ware> lulz
10:20 <@Shadow404> so did everyone
10:20 < ware> Evilpig: HAHA nice pic
10:20 <@Shadow404> nice
10:21 <@Evilpig> well it is a firewall.  of sorts
10:26 <@Shadow404> sorta figured that one out
10:28 <@Evilpig> don't even remember where I stole that pic from either
10:28 <@Shadow404> i might have to put that on my custom netgear router interface
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10:45 <@rattle> Oh damnit..
10:46 <@rattle> Turns out the Russian/Georgian conflict destroys the Golden Arches Theory of Conflict Prevention.  Both Georgia and Russia have McDonalds..
10:50 <@Evilpig> http://shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=blizzcon+2008&_fromfsb=0&_trksid=m270  <--insane
10:52 < ware> jesus.
10:52 < ware> that mount is pretty kickass tho
10:52 < ware> hehe
10:53 <@Evilpig> it is.  but jesus.  the tickets were $100.  and these guys are trying to sell them for $500+
10:53 < Dolemite_> So Blizzard is now borrowing from The Golden Compass
10:53 <@Evilpig> blizzard borrows from everything.
10:53 < ware> Evilpig: 3 bis on the $510 ticket
10:54 <@Evilpig> that is well known.  they have pop culture references in all their games
10:54 <@Evilpig> they really like to reference their own games in other games too
10:54 < Dolemite_> yep
10:55 < eryc> nowai
10:56 <@Evilpig> my favorite to date is the mace in WoW "Wirt's third leg"
10:56 < Dolemite_> lol
10:56 < Dolemite_> What level is that?
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10:56 <@Evilpig> http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9359
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10:56 <@Evilpig> it makes it all the funnier that it is a double joke
10:58 <@Dolemite> The other day I picked up Shizzle's Nozzle Wiper, fo' rizzle.
10:59 <@Evilpig> down in un'goro?
10:59 <@Dolemite> yeah
10:59 <@Dolemite> Now I'm up in Winterspring doing quests in the snow
10:59 <@Dolemite> they need to have a recipe for Yeti Spaghetti
10:59 <@Evilpig> have you come across the stealthed critters in the north yet?
11:00 <@Dolemite> nope
11:00 <@Evilpig> hehe.  beware if you come across a big open area.
11:00 <@Dolemite> I take it that they're not demons?
11:00 <@Dolemite> will detect invis work on them?
11:01 <@Evilpig> it might.  but they are cats
11:01 <@Dolemite> Ah, so I just need to keep some yarn in my bags to throw at them
11:01 <@Evilpig> there is a random demon running around out there too
11:01 <@Dolemite> there are shadowcats in other areas, though
11:01 <@Evilpig> yeah like stv.
11:02 <@Dolemite> I think that's where Mirage got his pussy
11:02 <@Evilpig> no.  his was a special one that keeps the invis from one of the alliance areas
11:02 <@Dolemite> ah
11:02 <@Dolemite> I remember he got NotLarry to escort him to get the thing
11:03 <@Evilpig> I got gimp to 35 last night. could have done 36 but I was working while half ass playing
11:04 <@Dolemite> fun
11:04 < ware> Evilpig: Key-Clone?
11:04 <@Dolemite> well, looks like I have to run over to the Days Inn and fix their wifi
11:04 <@Evilpig> wtf is key-clone?
11:10 <@wizardpc>  /headdesk
11:11 < ware> http://www.solidice.com/keyclone/
11:11 < ware> Evilpig: i think we're going to try that out
11:11 < ware> with the recruit a friend program
11:11 < ware> to get the mount
11:12 <@Evilpig> could be interesting
11:12 < ware> saw one with 5 shammy
11:12 < ware> s
11:13 < ware> that app works over the network too
11:13 < ware> so you dont even have to run the dupe instance of wow locally
11:13 < wrench___> rattle: damn! you're right. I thought that theory was pretty solid.
11:15 <@timoguin> ware: ping
11:15 < ware> p0ng
11:15 <@timoguin> do you have backtrack here anywhere?
11:15 < ware> use the priv ircd
11:15 < ware> in my laptop case
11:15 <@timoguin> okay
11:16 <@timoguin> bt3?  in your room?
11:16 < ware> Evilpig: http://www.solidice.com/keyclone/pip.html
11:16 < ware> timoguin: yeah, laptop case. open it up and its on the right
11:17 <@timoguin> okay
11:17 <@timoguin> thanks
11:18 <@timoguin> does bt3 have ophcrack?
11:19 < ware> eh, i think so. if it doesnt its an easy build to put on any other box
11:22 < ware> dont crack my hash.
11:22 < ware> lol
11:22 < ware> OR I WILL SMOKE ALL OF YOURS WITHOUT TELLING U
11:22 <@timoguin> don't want to.
11:23 < ware> did that realestate place forget a pw?
11:23 <@timoguin> apparently the last guy who fixed her computer didn't give her account proper access.
11:23 <@timoguin> and she doesn't know the admin pw.
11:23 < ware> gotcha, use erd commander to reset it
11:23 <@timoguin> yea i'm downloading it.
11:23 <@timoguin> trying to...
11:23 <@timoguin> it's not connecting.
11:24 <@timoguin> you don't have that here do you?
11:24 < ware> its in my truck i believe, check the laptop case
11:29 < ware> Evilpig: yeah we're going to try that out
11:29 < eryc> crackheads
11:29 < ware> dualbox with keyclone
11:29  * ware pees on eryc 
11:29 < ware> wuzzup
11:29 <@Evilpig> just dualbox?
11:29 < ware> Evilpig: i dont think i should spend more a month on that
11:30 < eryc> im drinking coke
11:30 < ware> on WoW*
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11:30 <@Evilpig> I think it would be neat to try.  not sure I really want to level another toon though that would be annoying as shit
11:30 < ware> we should be pwnsauze tho, youre welcome to join us if you want to roll a new toon
11:31 < ware> i dont think we're going to take advantage of the triple xp right off the bat but that works for any toon doesnt it?
11:31 < ware> of either account, who ever is the lowest?  or is it just the friend account that signs up
11:31 < eryc> except looney toons
11:32 < ware> eryc: you gonna sign up
11:32 < ware> on mal'ganis with the crew
11:32 < eryc> ya if you keyclone lvl me
11:32 <@Evilpig> not sure on the exact details of that.  I think as soon as you use the friend code you get the extra xp 
11:32 < eryc> and buy me a rocket flying monkey mount
11:33 <@Evilpig> i'll have a polar bear mount in a month
11:33 <@Evilpig> well tow months
11:33 <@Evilpig> two*
11:33 < ware> eryc: id do that
11:33 < eryc> alliance?
11:33 < ware> horde
11:33 < eryc> word
11:33 < ware> you sign up an account and let me 3box it
11:34 < ware> then ill hand it off to you whenever
11:34 < eryc> do i get a 1000g signing bonus
11:34 < ware> hah, i have no 70s yet. highest is 47
11:35 < eryc> i gotta prep for burningman, after that ill check it out
11:35 < ware> havent heard of that
11:36 < eryc> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=burning+man
11:36 < eryc> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6508439865195886376&ei=aQ2jSOzyOZDErwL4qcDkDQ
11:37 < eryc> its like mad max and shit
11:38 < eryc> more boobs tho
11:38 <@Evilpig> burning man is for hippies
11:39 <@wizardpc> no showers, lots of smoking things, yeah its for hippies
11:39 < eryc> lots of pyro too
11:40 < eryc> shit with flamethrowers
11:40 < eryc> flying neon planes
11:40 < eryc> there are showers btw
11:42  * eryc does the hippy dance
11:43 <@Evilpig> there are golden showers but not hygiene showers
11:43 < eryc> its one of the coolest things in america
11:43 < eryc> there are camping solar showers noob
11:46 <@wizardpc> cuz that totally counts
11:47  * Evilpig pisses on eryc's head.
11:47 <@Evilpig> How's that shower?  warm?
11:47 <@Shadow404> eryc: careful, kho told everyone Evilpig was into that sort of thing
11:48 <@Evilpig> I heard kho liked to make mustaches.  is that true ware?
11:48 <@Shadow404> yeah, ware, is that true?
11:48 <@Evilpig> dirty sanchez?
11:48 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-SbdmcZim8
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11:58 <@tzanger> damn
11:59 <+MaxieZ> I heard hugme is getting hitched
11:59 <+MaxieZ> Shadow404: you want to plan hooter for tomorrow?
12:00 <+MaxieZ> God my spelling and grammer is going to shit (and it was never great)
12:01 <+MaxieZ> Shadow404: Would you like to plan to go to hooters tomorrow?
12:01 < eryc> i plan hooter everyday
12:01  * wizardpc has a new favorite word: "Banditry"
12:01 <@I-MOD> lol
12:02 <@dc0de> MaxieZ; hooters?
12:02 <+MaxieZ> Yeah...hooters downtown
12:02 < eryc> i only need one at a time
12:03 < eryc> round robin style
12:03 < eryc> ah thats the hooters that made me the hottest wings imaginable
12:03 < eryc> ill never forget that cook
12:03 < eryc> bastard
12:04 <@polerin> wizardpc: banditry?
12:04 < eryc> my coworker and i had a contest to see who could eat the most
12:04 < eryc> i won, but i wished i hadnt
12:04 <@polerin> wizardpc: err.. I know what it means, but why is it now your favorite?
12:04 <@Shadow404> MaxieZ: hooters work
12:04 <@Shadow404> dc0de: interested?
12:04 <@Shadow404> just down 400 for you
12:04 <@dc0de> yeah, but no.
12:04 <@Shadow404> u fail at life
12:05 < eryc> dc0de: they have dongs too
12:05 <@Shadow404> wehn you turn down hooteres
12:05 <@Shadow404> eryc: now dc0de is game
12:05 <@dc0de> eryc; sorry, you have me confused with YOU
12:05 < eryc> hot dongs comin!
12:05 <@Shadow404> thats just his defense
12:05 < eryc> dc0de: meat sandwich?
12:05 <+MaxieZ> dc0de: skydog wrote me back and said it would be cool to go to the HP party
12:06 <@dc0de> I'm in a training class that doesn't get out until six pm, and I haven't slept well since returning from Defcon...
12:06 <+MaxieZ> yesterday :)
12:06 <@dc0de> still getting over the jetlag
12:06 <@dc0de> MaxieZ; when did you get the email?
12:06 <+MaxieZ> yesterday.
12:06 <@dc0de> heh
12:06 <@dc0de> timely
12:06 <+MaxieZ> So...I'm going, but I'm going to be a bit late :)
12:07 <@aestetix> dc0de: how was defcon
12:07 <@dc0de> MaxieZ; nah, i'd save it, and bring it to the party next year!
12:07 <@dc0de> aestetix; awesome, tiring, and amazing.
12:07 <@SkyDog_> Damn. Hooters sounds pretty good right now.
12:07 <@dc0de> w00f!
12:07 <@SkyDog_> I got some chinese last night, which I had a hankering for in Vegas.
12:07 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; "How was Defcon"?
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12:08 <+MaxieZ> what's up skydog
12:08 <@aestetix> so did anyone who went to defcon get a hooker?
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12:08 <@dc0de> aestetix; if they did, they didn't share....
12:08  * dc0de thanks God!
12:09 <@aestetix> roll roll, up the whore, pinch her at the end
12:09 <@aestetix> stick it in and fill her up, then pass her to a friend
12:10  * dc0de shudders
12:10 <@dc0de> remember, what happens in Vegas, needs to STAY in vegas, not come home on your Tool.
12:10 <@aestetix> wait I can make this bettter
12:11 <@aestetix> "roll on to the whore, rub her on her end...."
12:11 <@wizardpc> polerin: there was a radio report from a BBC reporter in Georgia (country), saying that "there are reports of rampant banditry"
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12:15 <@Shadow404> MaxieZ: ill be good for noon time to hid up there, so probably 12:10pm?
12:15 <@polerin> well, I'm assuming there are random bouts of rampant banditry in georgia (state), but I'd be supprised if the BBC was reporting on it ;)    it's that bad isn't it
12:15 <+MaxieZ> ok
12:15 <@Shadow404> dc0de: if you need free parking, i can get you in free 1 block away
12:15 <@dc0de> no, i have to study for the exams I have to take later this week.
12:16 <@polerin> bush is pissing me off.  he needs to tell russia to get the hell out of georgia, and get out now :/
12:16 <@dc0de> and if I go to hooters, I'm gonna wanna get some.
12:16 <@polerin> same as we are being told to get the hell out of iraq by people who don't think it's right for us
12:16 <@dc0de> polerin; yeah, but we can't back it up, we don't have troops available...
12:16 <@Shadow404> dc0de: thats what you get at home
12:16 <@polerin> dc0de: and why is that?  :P
12:17 <@polerin> dc0de: but there are other options
12:17 <@dc0de> polerin; err, umm, the Clinton era decimating the armed forces, and the Bush era putting what's left out 1/2 way around the world.
12:17 <@dc0de> polerin; yeah, nuclear war.
12:17 <@polerin> military force comes into play when diplomacy fails, and the diplomacy is well on the way to fail
12:17 <@polerin> because they aren't pushing
12:17 <@dc0de> why doesn't NATO, the EU, and/or the UN doing anything?
12:17 <@dc0de> it's in the EU's back yard.
12:18 <@polerin> I think nato isn't because the us is restraining them.  I'm not 100% but I don't think the us wants nato out in front of the us on it
12:18 <@polerin> looks bad
12:19 <@polerin> I meen there is some talk, but russia is using the olympics as cover
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12:27 <@SkyDog_> I just looked at the clock. It feels like 4PM, but it's only a bit after 12. Sigh.
12:27 <@SkyDog_> My body will take weeks to recover from defcon.
12:27 <@timoguin> sweet.  just got my mixman dm2.
12:27 < Curbob> i still can't get to sleep before 3am
12:28  * Curbob points at SkyDog, it's his fault!
12:28 < wrench___> SkyDog_: use that gravel in ur gut. You got this! Bet ur hurtin for certain.
12:28 <@SkyDog_> Curbob: Man, I took a nap in my office after 6 last night, so that I could keep my eyes open for the trip home.
12:29 <@SkyDog_>  Got some chinese, and passed out at about 9:30.
12:29 <@SkyDog_> wrench___: I'm guttin' it out today. A leftover 5 hour energy drink is getting me by for the time being.
12:29 <@SkyDog_> I partied well into the morning every day we were at defcon.
12:29 < Curbob> i was worthless at work the last 2 days, today, I actually did something
12:30 <@SkyDog_> I am about to setup user accounts on the array. Glad I didn't try it yesterday.
12:30 < Curbob> hahaha
12:31 <@SkyDog_> I literally fell asleep in my office yesterday afternoon. Head back, feet up on a chair...
12:31 < wrench___> haha...nice!
12:32 <@SkyDog_> Someone passed by my office and asked the guy across the hall if I was ok.
12:32 <@SkyDog_> He said I had a long weekend.
12:32 <@SkyDog_> :)
12:32 < wrench___> SkyDog_: chug some pedialyte.
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12:32 <@Corydon76-dig> or 5 Hour Energy
12:33 <@SkyDog_> Well, I have a defCon pint glass on my desk that I have been filling up and chugging.
12:33 <@Corydon76-dig> like, the whole bottle...
12:33 < wrench___> Corydon76-dig: have you messed w/ the laser graffiti at all?
12:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Not since the weekend, no
12:34 <@Corydon76-dig> I have a camera on order, though
12:34 < wrench___> Corydon76-dig: oh yeah...bitchin! Can't wait to test it outdoors!
12:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Canon MV930, I think
12:38 < wrench___> damn Corydon that camera looks badass. Its got auto and manual zoom and a joystick control!
12:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Manual zoom and streaming video were the two critical parts
12:38 <@Corydon76-dig> OD has a 4' tripod for $30
12:39 <@Corydon76-dig> So I may pick that up, as well
12:39 < wrench___> true true. that's perfect.
12:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Hmm, geeks.com has one for $10
12:40 < wrench___> score!
12:42 <@Corydon76-dig> It may have to wait until I get back from holiday next week
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13:06 <@Dolemite> Well the Days Inn once again has working internetz.  The world is a safer place.
13:07 < ware> timoguin: my backpacks come in the mail yet?
13:07 < ware> Dolemite++
13:07 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: what kind of speed does it have?
13:07 <@Shadow404> timoguin: ah, so your wares bitch? great job!
13:07  * Shadow404 ducks
13:08 <@timoguin> ware: USPS?
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13:09 < ware> timoguin: yah
13:09  * aestetix sighs
13:09 <@timoguin> ware: no.
13:09 <@timoguin> my dm2 did though
13:09 <@timoguin> =)
13:09 <@aestetix> I think I'm getting to the point where no caffeine is healthy for me
13:09 <@Shadow404> aestetix: aka, we are getting older
13:09 <@aestetix> Shadow404: sucks, doesn't it?
13:09 <@aestetix> at least the sex gets better
13:10 <@Dolemite> One of the AP's had reset to factory defaults, which meant that it was spitting out DHCP.  It wouldn't take a config change, either, so it's now in the trash.
13:10 <@Shadow404> aestetix: yeah, more mature no, but yeah, sex is always better
13:10 < ware> timoguin: fedex, mah bad
13:10 < ware> check the back porch! lol
13:10 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: what kind of bandwidth we have now?
13:10 <@timoguin> is a signature required?
13:10 <@Dolemite> same as before
13:10 < ware> shouldnt
13:10 <@timoguin> ware: well i'm about to head back over to the office.
13:10 <@timoguin> i'll look when i leave.
13:11 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: hmm, let me rephrase the question, what kind of bandwidth does the hotel have connected to the AP's, cause i never knew what it was before.
13:11 <@Dolemite> It's a fractional T1
13:11 <@Shadow404> ah, ok
13:12 <@Shadow404> yeah, that was skydog's concern with my idea
13:12 <@aestetix> woah what idea?
13:12 <@Shadow404> aestetix: nothing compared to yours
13:13 <@aestetix> huh?
13:13 <@Shadow404> nm
13:13 <@Dolemite> way to suck up there, Shadow404
13:13 <@aestetix> Dolemite: did he just admit I have a bigger dick than him?
13:13 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: dude, his shit was cool, it really was
13:13 <@Shadow404> tracking people with rfid <> vitalstream
13:13 <@Shadow404> hmmm
13:13 <@aestetix> oh
13:13 <@Dolemite> aestetix : I think he also admitted he wanted to suck it
13:14 <@Shadow404> my idea takes 6 minutes at most to setup
13:15 <@Shadow404> heh, ill give aestetix credit for one thing, he doesn't bombarde around irc with an inflated ego
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13:17 <@aestetix> I don't need an inflated ego. I'll settle for a big dick.
13:18 < eryc> i'm sure you get enough big dick as it is
13:18 <@aestetix> eryc: yeah. when are you coming over tonight?
13:19 <@aestetix> or are you still sore from last time?
13:19 < eryc> ill be coming over a pair of tits tonight
13:19 <@Shadow404> nice
13:19 <@aestetix> eryc: tell your mom I said hi
13:19 <@Shadow404> oh, reverse burn
13:20 <@aestetix> btw, they're fake
13:20 < eryc> she said thanks for using the strap on
13:20 < eryc> next time she wants to use it on you
13:20 <@Shadow404> man, i knew it would devolve into corydon type jokes
13:21 < ware> hahaha
13:22 < ware> DONT YOU KNOW YOUR EFFORTS COULD BE USED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF SOCIETY
13:22 < ware> WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WASTING YOUR TALENTS FOR
13:22 <@Shadow404> fuck society, what has it ever done for me?
13:22 < ware> you are society
13:22 <@Shadow404> i reject society
13:22 <@Shadow404> so all -> diaf please
13:22 <@SkyDog_> ware: Don't use all caps. my head is still hurting from Defcon.
13:23 < ware> i still havent seen any pics
13:23 <@Shadow404> ware: ascii chair please
13:23 < ware> pig posted a youtube of you going down on a cup tho haha
13:23 <@Shadow404> gahhhh
13:23 < ware> @topic
13:23 <@Shadow404> pass brain bleache...hurry!!!
13:28 <@wizardpc> lol: "Shopping--when my wife goes and buys a bunch of things I get to pay for" Dave Ramsey
13:29 <@wizardpc> oh shit somebody shot the chair of the arkansas democrat party
13:29 <@Shadow404> huh?
13:29 <@Shadow404> link?
13:29 <@Dolemite> cnn.com
13:29 <@Shadow404> ware: are you responsible? a chair was involved!!!!
13:31 <@aestetix> ware: you're the only one I can think of who gets aroused when someone asks for more cowbell
13:31 <@wontonjoe> No, No, do it again, more cowbell this time!
13:33 <@wizardpc> http://www.arktimes.com/ is reporting he also threatened a building manager at the Baptist State Convention earlier
13:34 <@I-MOD> what are people shooting at the arkansas democratic party when the WBC is fair game?
13:34 <@I-MOD> s/what/why/
13:34 < ware> aestetix: your ignorance has lost its humor
13:35 <@Shadow404> man, when you women gonna stop fighting
13:37 <@wontonjoe> goodnight gracie!
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13:38 <@aestetix> man
13:38 <@aestetix> even though I've seen the movie
13:38 <@aestetix> clips from the Deer Hunter are still fuking haunting
13:39 <@Dolemite>  wtf is up with you people using diaf so much these days?  Did stfu get to be unpopular?
13:39 <@Shadow404> actually, yes
13:39 <@aestetix> diaf?
13:39 <@Dolemite> stfu
13:39 <@Dolemite> die in a fire
13:39 <@aestetix> wtf
13:39 <@I-MOD> sycsm
13:39 <@Shadow404> though, kthxbai, hasnt lost its appeal
13:39 <@Corydon76-dig> edls
13:39 <@Shadow404> rtfm
13:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Eat Dick Like Shadow
13:39 < ware> dick ingrained ass feltch
13:40 <@Shadow404> do it around fields
13:44 <@aestetix> but yeah
13:44 <@aestetix> Deer Hunter is seriously a fucked up movie
13:52 < eryc> i prefer milf hunter
13:52 < eryc> now thats a good movie
14:07 < ware> timoguin: pimp
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14:28 < TheLightCosine> wow, this quote is really offensive: "There's no such thing as an 'ethical hacker' - that's like saying 'ethical rapist' - it's a contradiction in terms."
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14:28 < ware> who said that
14:29 < TheLightCosine> Marcus J. Ranum
14:30 <+MaxieZ> Your mom's an ethical hacker
14:30 < TheLightCosine> hah i wish
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14:30 < TheLightCosine> then she'd stop comnplaining to me about her e-mail not working
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14:38 <@Shadow404> TheLightCosine: dude, like i've said, just setup a secure vnc server on your parents computers
14:38 <@Shadow404> so you can fix them remotely
14:38 <@Shadow404> saves plenty in time and gas
14:38 <@Shadow404> not to mention grey hairs
14:38 < TheLightCosine> heh
14:43 <@SkyDog_> secure vnc server... isn't that an oxymoron?
14:43 <@Shadow404> yeah, i was thinking the same after i typed that
14:44 <@wizardpc> we used to play with the building access control systems at school
14:44 <@wizardpc> which used "secure" vnc
14:44 <@ShadowHntr> teamviewer.com
14:44 <@ShadowHntr> :)
14:44 <@Shadow404> logmein.com tbh
14:44 <@wizardpc> where the password was securely stored in the registry
14:45 <@Shadow404> wizardpc: sounds like groupware
14:45 <@I-MOD> ~.4
14:45 <+MxZBot> .4 is typically fatal...
14:45 <@Dolemite> secure vnc == NIC unplugged
14:45 <@Shadow404> heh, nice
14:46 <@SkyDog_> Agreed.
14:47 <@Dolemite> though I admit to having it on my mythtv boxes at home
14:47 <@Dolemite> but you can't get to that net from the outside world
14:47 <@Dolemite> if you jack in to my net at the house, you may as well just pick up the damn remote control
14:48 <@Shadow404> nice
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14:48 <@Dolemite> just don't delete the porn.  Copy it all you want.
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14:49 <@Shadow404> already have, like 2 tb's worth, geez man
14:50 <@Dolemite> Hey, I like my tranny-on-goat pr0n.
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14:52 <@I-MOD> i ate some goat last night
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14:55 <@Shadow404> I-MOD: dont you mean ate out
14:55 <@I-MOD> sure Shadow404, cause i like having sex with goats all the time
14:56 <@Shadow404> who doesnt, i like the sheeps myself though
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15:08 <@Evilpig> tranny on goat?  dolemite...  that is even more depraved than me
15:13 < wrench___> that reminds me...any of yall hear about that restaurant in Japan where you go in, pick out an animal, have sex with it, then kill it, and then after the cook prepares it -- you eat it. Very expensive delicacy.
15:14 <@Evilpig> can the animal be woman?
15:14 < wrench___> Evilpig: I think it can be just about anything
15:15 < wrench___> I think the larger and more exotic the animal -- the higher the price.
15:38 < ware> yeah, id get me a rhino
15:39 <@Evilpig> Mirage: ping
15:52 <@wizardpc> so...just had another meeting with the indians
15:52 <@wizardpc> things I took away from the meeting:
15:52 <@wizardpc> 1. if you install google toolbar, we will fire you
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15:53 <@wizardpc> 2. if you make a mathematical error on an expense report, we will fire you
15:53 <@wizardpc> 3. when we fire you, we get to tell you where you can't work
15:53 <@oddball> 3. if you look at us funny, we'll fire you
15:54 <@wizardpc> they're really instilling that "we care" sense
15:57 <@Dolemite> Google Toolbar is a terminating offense, eh?
15:57 <@Dolemite> Of course, in TN they can fire you for any non-discriminatory reason they want
15:58 <@Dolemite> But they also can't enforce  part 3
15:58 <@Dolemite> It's that whole "Right To Work State" thing
15:58 <@Dolemite> They may be able to get away with that in Bangalore, but not Nashville.
15:59 <@SkyDog_> Why is google toolbar a firing offense?
16:00 <@Evilpig> installing software the company didn't sanction
16:00 <@nachoguy> google might become sentient and figoure out that what they're doing is an affront to god, err google
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16:02 < daswork> Jesus.
16:03 < daswork> I don't know why IT workers don't go postal.
16:05 < daswork> Caching.
16:05 < daswork> Fucking magic.
16:05 < daswork> Utterly fucking magic.
16:05 <@oddball> who says they don't?
16:05 <@wizardpc> yeah any software you want to install...any at all...has to go through management
16:05 <@wizardpc> this INCLUDES windows updates
16:06 <@wizardpc> no patch tuesday for you!
16:06 <@oddball> wizardpc: ummm... yeah.... time to fucking hit the door
16:06 <@SkyDog_> Damn man.
16:06 <@wizardpc> well, they helpfully asked me to submit an updated resume last week, so I already have that
16:07 <@oddball> wait.... your boss asked for a new resume?
16:07 <@wizardpc> yes, so they can do some OCR thing in bangalore and input it into their HR system
16:07 <@oddball> I'm thinking run
16:08 <@wizardpc> "for any new opportunities that may arise" I think was the official reason
16:08 <@SkyDog_> Rabbit bigtime.
16:09 <@wizardpc> damn I hate IT recruiters though
16:09 <@wizardpc> H A T E
16:10 <@someninjamaster> wizardpc: i think i have a position that will fit your perfect
16:11 <@nachoguy> yeah, but when they land you a better job for more cash, they're not so evil
16:11 <@someninjamaster> is that the phrase the recruters use to piss you off
16:11 <@nachoguy> Hey, i still have some open gigs in Chicago
16:12 < daswork> Calling me 10 times to check on the status of your network is NOT GOING TO SPEED MY JOB UP!
16:12 <@Evilpig> does too
16:13 < daswork> Jesus.
16:13 < daswork> And text messages.  READ THEM!
16:14  * wizardpc thinks daswork is at his old company
16:14 <@wizardpc> and yes, someninjamaster, that's close enough
16:14 <@wizardpc> but then you have to say "I'm going to submit your resume and will call you back tomorrow with an interview time"
16:14 <@wizardpc> and then NEVER CALL ME AGAIN
16:14 < daswork> H. Sapiens would be improved if, for whatever reason, tomorrow morning, some closed doors would have the note posted on them "Warning:  Do not open this door because behind it is a hungry lion that will eat you."  With said hungry lion being behind closed door.
16:16  * daswork patents this idea as feline-enforced-literacy.
16:16 <@nachoguy> daswork, agreed.  No one reads any more
16:17 < daswork> I really don't understand the usefulness of email.
16:17 <@oddball> ooo! new toy from Cisco!
16:17 < daswork> In theory, yes, it is gread.
16:17 < daswork> Er, great.
16:17  * oddball just got a shipment of cisco wifi APs.
16:17 < daswork> In practice, anything beyond a one line email composted of a simple subject/verb sentence will not be read.
16:18 <@oddball> hmmm... according to the warnings stamped on this one, the bottom can apparently be used as a hot tray.
16:18 <@nachoguy> daswork, here, it's random, some need that "one liner", some read all the way though and try to get shit through by burying it at the bottom of an email.
16:18 <@oddball> daswork: ummm... my office uses email for a good bit of it's comunications.
16:19 <@wizardpc> oh jesus on a stick...so they email me a "User declaration & acceptance policy on Information Security Practices" .doc, ask me to sign it, and then in the signature it says "it is agains company policy to print emails"
16:20 <@oddball> nice!
16:20 <@someninjamaster> its a trap
16:20 <@nachoguy> reply back with just the letters "OK"
16:20 < daswork> oddball: Is your office literate?
16:21 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: obviously they want you to sign the monitor, then deliver the monitor to them
16:21 <@someninjamaster> that would kick ass
16:21 <@nachoguy> an otherwise blank email with just "ok" can't be legally binding
16:22 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: or maybe they want you to sign it with your PGP key
16:22 <@oddball> daswork: mostly
16:24 <@wizardpc> oh but im not allowed to have PGP
16:24 <@wizardpc> cuz they'll fire me
16:25 <@wizardpc> wait...why does the info security practices document contain language authorize a credit and background check?
16:26 <@polerin> wizardpc: you meen you didn't have that on hire?  odd.  most companies do that first
16:26 <@polerin> that's NOT unusual though
16:26 <@wizardpc> we got bought a month ago
16:26 <@oddball> polerin: the company wizardpc works for was bought out
16:27 <@wizardpc> went from a company of 115 to a company of 92,000
16:27 <@polerin> because if you're in bad debut they think you are a greater risk for theft or some kind of money generating illegal activity directed at your employer
16:28 <@wizardpc> right, but why is that in the infosec policy? the one that says "dont look at pr0n at work, or chat on IRC, or.." oh wait
16:29 <@polerin> lol
16:29 <@polerin> that's why I always ssh'ed out too
16:29 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: because establishing a new policy takes more work than altering an existing policy
16:29 <@polerin> but that's prolly against policy
16:30 <@polerin> (I know it was against comcast's)
16:34 <@polerin> hmm
16:34 <@polerin> lissa not being here is going to be bad for my hearing, but I work so much better with the music up loud
16:35 <@wizardpc> lol there is a section in here about not being allowed to test the physical security of a building
16:35 <@polerin> heheh
16:36 <@polerin> what I don't think should be allowed are the 'This can be changed at any time and you get no notification" agreements
16:36 <@polerin> that's pure bullshit
16:36 <@wizardpc> yeah thats in here
16:36 <@polerin> changed at any time is ok
16:37 <@polerin> but you should get notification of such
16:37 <@wizardpc> actually, it's "go here and read the policy, which may change at any time"
16:37 <@polerin> I come on.. this isn't the 50's.  you've got databases
16:37 <@wizardpc> and it points to a link I dont have access to
16:37 <@polerin> heheh
16:37 <@polerin> well
16:37 <@polerin> obviously they aer wanting to test your security chops
16:37 <@polerin> go get the policy.
16:38 <@SkyDog_> Pass. Go get another job.
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16:39 <@polerin> steal a copy of your favorite version of "take this job and shove it" and play it loud
16:39 <@polerin> hehe
16:40 <@polerin> I really wish I had done that with c omcast, I know there wasn't a chance of me getting them as a contract
16:40 <@polerin> they are way too cheap
16:43 <@wizardpc> i almost want to stick around to see what other douchebaggery happens
16:43 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: I'm sure we could find you a document that looks like it's been copied 100 times over and is completely illegible that you can sign
16:44 <@Corydon76-dig> See if they notice
16:44 <@wizardpc> but if anyone know a place that's hiring "general computery guy that knows a bunch of shit but isnt a programmer" for 60k, lemme know
16:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Most of them just see if they've got your signature on a paper, and it goes into a file and never seen again
16:45 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: Digium may be hiring
16:46 <@nachoguy> wizard, are you anti Chicago?
16:46 <@Neoteric> anyone know cypherghost's (aka randall) email addr?
16:46 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: can you read circuit diagrams?
16:47 <@wizardpc> im the original anti chicago
16:47 <@wizardpc> i need a refresher, but yeah I know the gist of circuits
16:47 <@nachoguy> WizardPC, ah, well then... no job for you  =>
16:48 < eryc> no cookie
16:49 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: position open at Digium for "Failure Analysis Electronics Technician"
16:50 <@tzanger> Corydon76-dig: nice, that's fun work :_)
16:50 < eryc> careful taking an "open position" around corydon
16:50 <@Corydon76-dig> eryc: It's in Huntsville.  I work from home
16:50 <@tzanger> I once had to write a report abotu one of the big power devices we used to build (when I worked at a previous job)
16:50 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.digium.com/en/company/careers/
16:51 <@tzanger> someone had replaced the fuses (not little fuses, think things that look like 5lb hand weights) with 3" copper pipe
16:51 <@tzanger> the power devices got so hot they literally melted the aluminum heatsink around them
16:51 <@Corydon76-dig> tzanger: ouch
16:51 <@wizardpc> yeah I gotta stay here in nashville, what with being married now
16:51 <@tzanger> Corydon76-dig: obviously no warranty :-)
16:51 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: I commute once a week
16:52 <@wizardpc> tzanger: HOLY SHIT
16:52 <@tzanger> Corydon76-dig: hwere do you live?
16:52 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: it's actually not a bad jaunt
16:52 <@wizardpc> I get 16mpg
16:52 <@Corydon76-dig> tzanger: usually it takes me 1:45 to drive to Digium
16:52 <@tzanger> Corydon76-dig: I wonder if they'd let me commute across national borders
16:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
16:53 <@Corydon76-dig> tzanger: what for?  Every other Canadian working for Digium works from home
16:54 <@tzanger> Corydon76-dig: none of hte other canucks like hardware :-)
16:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, true dat
16:56 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: it's about an hour to the TN-AL border, then another half hour down AL-53 (15 minutes for me to even get to I-65 in the first place)
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16:57 <@tzanger> Corydon76-dig: how close is digium to the nearest international airport?
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16:57 <@Corydon76-dig> tzanger: 20 minutes, maybe
16:57 <@Corydon76-dig> tzanger: HSV has an airport
16:57 <@tzanger> not bad at all
17:01 <@wizardpc> do they fly to canada from HSV?
17:02 <@wizardpc> although, I could rent a plane at John Tune Airport which is about 8 minutes from my house...
17:02  * wizardpc calculates
17:03 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: there are a few Digiumites who hold a pilot's license
17:04 <@wizardpc> let see, its about an hour's flight from JWN to HSV, less if I push it
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17:05 <@wizardpc> damn they took the hourly rate off the site
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17:07 <@wizardpc> but I think its 75/hr for the 152. engine time
17:09 <@Corydon76-dig> That's about 3 times the cost of the gas that I use on a typical trip, even at $4/gallon
17:10 <@wizardpc> it used to be $55/hr :(
17:11 <@wizardpc> but as far as gas mileage goes, the littl 152's are pretty good.
17:13 <@wizardpc> and apparently you can buy an older one for about $20k...
17:13  * wizardpc ponders
17:18 <@polerin> you're just trying to justify being able to fly to work
17:18 <@polerin> :P
17:22 <@wizardpc> well yeah
17:24 <@wizardpc> quick: is an ICOM IC-R3 for $150 a good deal?
17:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Pretty good, yes
17:25 <@wizardpc> rockin. always wanted a video scanner
17:25 <@wizardpc> and it has aircraft band, too
17:25 < eryc> video scanner?
17:26 <@wizardpc> for wireless video cameras
17:27 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: retail looks to be over $400
17:28 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: receive only, though, right?
17:28 <@wizardpc> well shit
17:28 <@wizardpc> yes
17:29 <@Corydon76-dig> I'd love to have a unified HT radio that allows every band I'm licensed for, and display which license code (if any) I need to use
17:30 <@Corydon76-dig> FRS/GMRS/MURS/Ham
17:30 <@wizardpc> oh shit that ad is a month old with no repost.
17:32 <@wizardpc> yay quittin time!
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18:10 <@sdodson> Wow, you're really running a firewall on an FC4 box?
18:16 <@Catonic> what is up my negros?
18:16 <@Catonic> rattle: I just thought of you a few moments ago...
18:17 <@Catonic> rattle: as I was standing in a Starbucks, listening to Johnny Cash's "walk the line" being played over the PA...
18:17 <@mtown_nerd> hooray
18:17 <@sdodson> Catonic: hi
18:17 <@Catonic> sdodson: What up, big show?
18:17 <@sdodson> Were you in line?
18:17 <@sdodson> big show?
18:18 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: buy one from China
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18:33 <@rattle> Well, I sure drink a ton of Starbucks lattes during my day walking the line.
18:36 <@sdodson> "All patches have a probability of introducing new bugs. That probability is always > 0  and <= 1. The probability is never equal to zero. (And for a certain large database vendor, our experience is that the probability of introducing new bugs is very close to one)."
18:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: I don't just mean a wide open radio
18:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: I want intelligence on the unit
18:39  * eryc whips out his unit
18:40 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: oh. Well, I've heard stories of Chinese-made Motorola radios that will do 406-470MHz when none of the american made counterparts will..
18:40 <@Catonic> to say the very least, front-end performance is extremely variable
18:40 <@Catonic> eryc: careful about whipping your unit out around Corydon...
18:41 < eryc> my front-end performance is pretty good
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18:41 <@I-MOD> that's not what she said
18:41 < eryc> she said it was outstanding
18:41 < eryc> and eye closing
18:44 <@rattle> Wow.  This kinda sucks.  They are doing construction in the parking garage of the building I work at...
18:45 <@rattle> Now my brand new car has it's exterior completely covered in little lacquer spots.
18:45 <@rattle> The parking garage _will_ resolve that little problem they caused...
18:45 < eryc> only "kinda"?
18:45 <@Catonic> rattle: your insurance agent is going to love you
18:46 <@rattle> eryc: Yeah, kinda.  They _will_ resolve that problem.
18:46 <@rattle> I've checked it on a few sections of the car.  It will come off just fine.  But it's going to be labor intensive as hell.
18:46 <@Catonic> One of my neighbors doored my car... on the side that was already rebuilt.
18:46 <@Catonic> rattle: just wait.. the longer it sits, the more damage it does
18:46 <@Catonic> also, be sure to ding them for the cost of a reapplication of wax.
18:46 <@rattle> It's going to have to be cleaned with something that will dissolve the lacquer..  Windex works for that...
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18:47 <@Catonic> lol... where I used to work, we had laquer thinner that would take paint off of anything... ANYTHING...
18:48 <@rattle> Then it will have to be waxed with a very high quality substance so that the long term appearance of the clear coat will not be effected by the cleaner that got the lacquer off..
18:48 <@rattle> Whatever they use for car wax today..  I have no fucking idea.  I kind of assume there isn't anything wax in it.
18:49 <@rattle> The getting the lacquer off part is going to be a real bitch.
18:49 <@rattle> I feel sorta bad for the folks the garage is going to have to pay to do it.
18:50 <@rattle> I just sent a very polite email describing the situation to the people that handle the month accounts, cc'd their risk assessment group, and bcc'd the list of where general comments can be viewed by executive management and whatnot.
18:51 <@rattle> My new car just got fucked up.  It will be unfucked up, probably by Friday.
18:52 <@rattle> They may not know that yet.
18:52 <@rattle> But if I don't get a phone call from someone who really wants to help me sometime tomorrow morning, the scary faxes will probably begin.
18:53 <@sdodson> Howed it get fucked up?
18:54 <@sdodson> What car?
18:54 <@rattle> I bought a 2008 Prius last week.
18:54 <@rattle> Construction in the parking garage at the building I work fucked it up.
18:54 <@sdodson> ya, i ust read that from scrollback, sorry i need to start reading back
18:55 <@rattle> I quit smoking last week too.
18:55 <@rattle> It's kinda working out pretty well.
18:56 <@sdodson> yay,
18:56 <@rattle> I've cheated a bit.  But I haven't killed anyone.
19:00 <@rattle> Hrm..  I just thought of something.  Another thing I've got going for me, because it's a new car..  Is that it's a new car..
19:00 <@rattle> I've got to get this to a dealership, asap..
19:01 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKN64o-vHyU
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19:11 < M0j0-j0j0> there's a floor polish called something like "Future Brite" which is actually thinned clear acrylic paint.... I bet it would put an awesome whine on a car
19:11 < M0j0-j0j0> I used it as airbrush paint
19:12 < M0j0-j0j0> anyways... time to head home
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19:12 <@sdodson> http://philsized.com/lol/faegs.jpg I'm not down with the anti-gay stuff, but wtf? where do you get a pink tank?
19:17 <@brimstone> is that from this year's gay pride parade?
19:17 <@brimstone> sorry, "political demonstration"
19:18 < eryc> they look european
19:18 < eryc> british to be exact
19:19 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqPDVmyxgzE
19:23 <@aestetix> vagina
19:26 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZF5IjDuPzc
19:32  * I-MOD is angered by the monkeys in production test
19:42 <@sdodson> I-MOD: oh?
19:55 <@I-MOD> yes
19:56 <@I-MOD> they don't pay attention to what they're doing and ship bad product
19:56 <@I-MOD> and i think i'm going to get blamed
19:56 <@I-MOD> cause i wrote the script they're using
20:01 <@tzanger> I-MOD: you have to be really careful about that
20:01 <@tzanger> big fucking red flashy lights that come on and ask them to enter their initials to continue
20:01  * tzanger has been down that road
20:02 <@tzanger> WARNING: THIS TEST WAS NOT COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? INITIAL:
20:04 <@sdodson> I-MOD: why did you write the test script?
20:12 <@I-MOD> it was a modification of something i wrote for personal use in engineering
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21:05 < geoffscoffee> evenin
21:06 <+MaxieZ> Hello
21:07 < eryc> diaf
21:08 < geoffscoffee> wow, touching
21:10 < eryc> stfu!!
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21:11 < eryc> ill eat ur cat
21:12 < M0j0-j0j0> taco
21:14 <@wizardpc> sdodson: that's not a tank, but that IS funny as shit
21:14 < geoffscoffee> someone not had enough fiber?
21:17 <@sdodson> wizardpc: WHAT IS IT?!
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21:19 <@someninjamaster> sup geoffscoffee
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21:23 < geoffscoffee> sup!
21:23 <@someninjamaster> nothing much
21:23 < geoffscoffee> i'm chillin on the deck, smokin' a stogie
21:23 <@someninjamaster> you getting ready for phreaknic
21:23 < geoffscoffee> perfect night
21:23 <@someninjamaster> indeed
21:24 < geoffscoffee> mentally, yes. physically, not yet
21:24 < geoffscoffee> you shoot that new blaster yet?
21:25 <@someninjamaster> i took the gsg-5 out last night
21:25 <@someninjamaster> i still need to clean the cosmo out of the nagant
21:25 <@someninjamaster> and i have been to lazy to shoot the cz
21:25 <@someninjamaster> since i have to flush the barrel with windex
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21:28 <@oddball> ok, hopefully new router will not suck
21:29 <@someninjamaster> wheres dagmar to do his dcc send thing
21:30 < geoffscoffee> hehe
21:32 < AstralSin> DCC SEND "HAH" 0 0 0 0
21:32 < AstralSin> you're good
21:33 < AstralSin> night all
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21:45 <@oddball> someninjamaster: well, that router was fucked up anyways
21:45 < geoffscoffee> some: you know you only have to do that with old ammo, right?
21:45 <@oddball> I could watch the wireless signal go up and down
21:46 <@oddball> geoffscoffee: what's that?
21:46 <@oddball> (has some old ammo, and didn't know it needed to be handled differently)
21:47 < geoffscoffee> old commie bloc stuff can corrode the barrel if you dont wash it out with ammonia
21:47 < geoffscoffee> its the old primer salts, they attract water in the air
21:48 < geoffscoffee> it's not a huge deal, but better safe than sorry
21:49 < geoffscoffee> it's safe to assume anything tht the soviet bloc countries made is corrosive
21:49 < geoffscoffee> anything we made after WWII is fine
21:49 <@oddball> oh, ok... yeah, I knew that
21:50 <@oddball> anything using umm.... Berradine(?) primers should be considered corrosive.
21:51 < geoffscoffee> thats a  good guide too (Berdan)
21:51 < geoffscoffee> spray ammonia/water mix, then followup with WD40 and you're good
21:52 < geoffscoffee> what old stuff do you have?
21:52 <@oddball> some old Czech ammo for my nagant
21:53  * I-MOD needs to pick up some more .45 for his s&w
21:54 < geoffscoffee> that czech stuff any good?  762x 54r right?
21:54 <@oddball> Which I think might also be the cause of it's bolt sticking.  The old laquer has been known to melt after firing and turn into glue.
21:55 <@oddball> I need to check a couple other things first though.
21:55 < geoffscoffee> I'm fortunate, my Nagant's bolt is lice and loose
21:55 < geoffscoffee> nice, too
21:55 < geoffscoffee> might have had lice, i guess
21:55 <@oddball> That's an oddity
21:55 <@oddball> which model do you have?
21:56 < geoffscoffee> 91/30 1942 round receiver
21:56 <@oddball> ah, cool
21:56 < geoffscoffee> very little wear
21:56 <@oddball> naienko: his is all stiff
21:57 < geoffscoffee> i don't know how to get rid of the laquer
21:57 < geoffscoffee> surplusrifle.com
21:57 <@oddball> Mine's a Finnish m39, stamped 1942 with the octagonal reciever
21:58 < eryc> you'll shoot yer eye out
21:58 < eryc> drink more ovaltine
21:58 < geoffscoffee> hehe
21:59 <@oddball> nah, but it will dislocate your shoulder if you're not careful
21:59 < eryc> ovaltine with creotine and hgh
22:03 <@oddball> geoffscoffee: basically, most "experts" suggest a 20guage bore brush, a drill, and some patience to scrub it out.
22:05 <@rattle> I really picked a lousy time to quit smoking.  It really makes my procrastination in quitting seem really stupid.
22:08 <@oddball> rough time at work?
22:15 <@rattle> Yes, you could say that.
22:15 <@rattle> As an example...  We had fire last week.  An actual fire.  Like with evacuation, smoke, and firemen.
22:16 <@rattle> And that was the fun part.
22:21 <@oddball> ah, suck
22:24 <@someninjamaster> geoffscoffee: my 7.62x25 is 1951 manufacture
22:24 <@rattle> Holy shit!  I just saw this and felt better.  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=33a_1218642189&p=1
22:24 <@rattle> Now, that sucks.
22:26 <@someninjamaster> my 7.62x54r is the same year too
22:26 <@Catonic> rattle: hehe
22:26 <@someninjamaster> the only new manufacture stuff i have is the 7.62 nagant
22:26 <@someninjamaster> that sog is raping me at .50 a round
22:27 <@someninjamaster> damnit there are no olympics
22:27 <@someninjamaster> events on with women
22:29 < geoffscoffee> hehe
22:32 <@sasquatc4> sure there is
22:32 <@sasquatc4> womens basketball is on
22:33 <@someninjamaster> what channel
22:33 <@someninjamaster> i just found womens swimming
22:34 <@sasquatc4> its only on dish, and maybe directv
22:34 <@someninjamaster> ah
22:34 <@sasquatc4> they have seperate feeds for basketball on soccer since those are on all the time
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22:35 <@sasquatc4> *and
22:35 < eryc> my brother sent me the hungarian video this morning so i got to wake up happy
22:35 <@sasquatc4> theres probably a bunch online, thought i read somewhere they have like 5 or 6 feeds on the website going at once
22:38 < eryc> http://starfeeder.gameriot.com/blogs/The-Starfeed/2-new-StarCraft-2-gameplay-videos-Protoss-Zerg
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22:49 < geoffscoffee> night all
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23:05 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: pix plz
23:14 < eryc> want pix of ur mums?
23:18 < eryc> http://images.heaven666.org/images/fat-fuck-522.jpg
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23:38 <@Evilpig> can you belive this?  
23:38 <@Evilpig> ~minilink http://cgi.ebay.com/Blizzcon-2008-Tickets-x2_W0QQitemZ250282498086QQihZ015QQcategoryZ16122QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
23:38 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/ebay.com/QL3KG
23:40 <@sasquatc4> wow, you gotta be a true nerd to be willin to throw down 650 for that
23:40 <@sasquatc4> for one person
23:52  * eryc bids
23:53 < eryc> theres another one that includes polar bear mounts!
23:59 < ware> Evilpig: dualboxing is ftw
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