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04:11 <@ShadowHntr> damn
04:11 <@ShadowHntr> that was grueling
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07:02 < Shadow404> meow
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07:45 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:55 < Shadow404> Catonic: ping bitch
07:57 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> Catonic was in Vegas last I knew...
07:57 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> i dropped his ass off at the airport... and he hasn't asked me to pick him up yet... =)
07:57 < Shadow404> dammit, of course, that slut
07:57 <@Dolemite> yep, he and skydog were dancing naked on the stripper poles, last I heard
07:58 < Shadow404> uh, glad i didnt make it this year
07:58 < Shadow404> that would of really messed up my mental state
07:58 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> LOL
07:58  * Shadow404 steps outside to smoke a bowl
08:09  * Shadow404 walks back in
08:09 < Shadow404> Dolemite: please never speak of that again
08:14 <@Dolemite> What?  Of Catonic and Skydog oil wrestling each other in a kiddie pool?
08:15 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> i can hear it now...
08:15  * Shadow404 goes outside to smoke another bowl, while covering ears
08:15 < Pr0nStrGeek_Work> "i couldn't hold on to the slippery, skinny fucker"
08:15 < Shadow404> slippery skinner fucker could be so many things
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08:55 < TheLightCosine> morning
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08:57 < TheLightCosine> anyone here a vbs guru?
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09:11 <@ware> yay backup logs
09:16 < TheLightCosine> ?
09:16 < Shadow404> ware: you know what's more fun?
09:16 < Shadow404> coil diaf!
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09:19 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch!
09:20 <@ware> wuddup
09:20 <+MaxieZ> Dolemite: where do I send talk pitches for PN?
09:20  * ware tosses up the g4ng signz
09:20 <@ware> \m/
09:20 <@Dolemite> http://www.phreaknic.info/pn12/callforpapers/
09:21 <@ware> -|.
09:21 <@Dolemite> ware : Hit level 52 this weekend
09:21 <@ware> http://www.phreaknic.info/pn12/forum/
09:21 <@ware> cool, im 10% to 47
09:21 <@Dolemite> I thought you were twinkin'?
09:22 <@ware> been doing a lot of PvP so the rogue hasnt gotten lvls like she should
09:22 <@ware> 47 on the rogue, the shaman is twinked at 39
09:22 <@Dolemite> Got me a funny named set of bracers...   Shizzle's Nozzle Wiper
09:22 <@ware> hahaha nice
09:22 <+MaxieZ> what class are you Dolemite?
09:22 <@ware> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal'Ganis&n=Phneak
09:22 <@Dolemite> Warlock
09:22 <@ware> got a new belt yesterday, that thing sells for 300g on AH
09:24 <@ware> http://chandlerproject.org/ - anyone heard of this before
09:26 <@wizardpc> So one of my grommsmen is having open heart surgery tomorrow
09:26 <@wizardpc> he's 26
09:26 <@Dolemite> sweet
09:26 <@ware> groomsmen?
09:26 <+MxZBot> groomsmen are expected to rent their own tux and bridesmaids are supposed to buy their own dress
09:27 <@Dolemite> wizardPC has only a short time remaining as an unmarried man
09:27 <@Dolemite> or no, he already got married
09:27  * wizardpc has been married for 2 months
09:27 <@Dolemite> that was this summer
09:27 <@Dolemite> yeah, I forgots
09:27 <@wizardpc> sallright
09:28 <@ware> thnx4invite
09:28 <@Dolemite> Not that I wouldn't have enjoyed free booze and hors douvres at your reception.  I promise I wouldn't have thrown a chair.
09:28 <@ware> dats wut im sayn
09:28 <@Dolemite> You're too slow1
09:29 < Shadow404> ware: im giving you a balsa wood seat for my wedding
09:29 <@wizardpc> no free booze at my place. I cant afford that shit
09:30 <@ware> wizardpc: got a sister that isnt married?
09:31 <@Dolemite> ware : What, your own sister not good enough for you anymore?
09:31 < Shadow404> she left after she had a chair thrown at her
09:31 <@ware> Dolemite: SHES A DRUNK WHORE!
09:32 <@Dolemite> ware : Who do you think made her that way?
09:32 <@ware> actually she fuckin called me this morning at 315
09:32 <@ware> i havent talked to her in a few weeks
09:32 <@wizardpc> bootycall from your sister? I didnt realize you were from arkansas
09:32 < Shadow404> she needed bail money, right?
09:32 <@ware> she was probably sloshed and drunk dialing as she does
09:32 < Shadow404> wizardpc: i thought that was alabama?
09:32 <@ware> dunno, i didnt answer and she didnt leave a msg
09:35 <@Dolemite> yeah, no point in leaving a message when you're in jail
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09:39 <@polerin> ok
09:39 <@polerin> wow.
09:39 <@polerin> http://www.mirrorsedge.com/#/HomePage/
09:40 <@polerin> I have to admit, i'm impressed
09:40 <@polerin> also, I've found a basis for my tattoo :P
09:41 <@Dolemite> The EA logo?
09:41 <@polerin> yep
09:41 <@polerin> damn you're good
09:41 <@polerin> no, the pseudo circut board on her arm
09:42 <@polerin> the game looks really impressive however
09:43 <+MaxieZ> Looks like mxo
09:43 <+MaxieZ> in fps mode
09:43 <@ware> looks like gay fps
09:43 <+MaxieZ> same thing
09:43 <+MaxieZ> :)
09:44 <@polerin> mxo?
09:44 <@polerin> ah
09:45 <@ware> never played it
09:45 <@ware> is it supergay
09:45 <+MaxieZ> sorry..I walked away
09:45 <+MaxieZ> yeah the maxtrix online
09:46 <+MaxieZ> It's not such a bad game.  Some of the things that make it good really suck when you get there
09:46 <@polerin> ?
09:47 <+MaxieZ> Um.  You can respec anytime basically
09:47 <+MaxieZ> Not just your skills, but your class even
09:47 <@polerin> hmm
09:47 <+MaxieZ> So you can be a fighter, then a healer then a "mage" etc
09:47 <+MaxieZ> Worse you can become a "coder" which is crafting.
09:47 <@polerin> and running around is that dynamic in first person mode?
09:47 <+MaxieZ> So you can level anything and once you're 50 you're everything
09:48 <+MaxieZ> I'm talking about MxO
09:48 <@polerin> I misread
09:48 <@polerin> I thought by "MXO in first person mode" you were talking about a mode in the game
09:48 <@polerin> sec
09:48 <@polerin> you'll laugh at where I ran across it
09:48 <+MaxieZ> No, I meant mirrorsedge looks like MxO but as a first shooter
09:49 <@polerin> it's not really a shooter though
09:49 <+MaxieZ> where did you find it?
09:49 <@polerin> that's the thing.. you can shoot in the game, but you can make it through the game without shooting (which I'm definatly going to try)
09:50 <@polerin> http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/well-that-was-bound-to-happen/     Mirrors edge was shown as a decent example of a woman fetured in the game
09:50 <@polerin> scroll down for a long gameplay video
09:51 <@polerin> that's not cut or anything
09:51 <@ware> OMGFEMINISTE!
09:52 <@ware> lara croft > mirrors edge
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09:52 <@ware> the tat the chick is sportin in mirrors edge is pretty cool, although i wont get it now cause polerin is getting it
09:52 <@ware> THNX.
09:56 <@ware> (just playin)
09:57 <@ware> {{{{{ RAWR COFFEE!!! }}}}}
09:57 <@polerin> http://gamevideos.com/video/id/19944   direct link to the video for those that are alergic to feminism :P
09:58 <+MaxieZ> I had a bad case of feminism once.  In the hospital for a week
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09:59 <@ware> Feminism is like STDS, BoP
10:05 <@polerin> I'm sure you did
10:06 <+MaxieZ> I'm kidding of course.  I consider myself to be a feminist....though I also confess I'm sexist at the same time.
10:08 <@polerin> heh
10:09 <@polerin> well, I've already been called a bullshit feminist once this month, so I'm not even going to go there this morning.  I don't have the energy
10:11 <@Corydon76-lap> MaxieZ: ask a feminist how gay porn oppresses women
10:11 < TheLightCosine> lol
10:11 <@wizardpc> so im installing smbfs on an ubuntu VM. It's been stuck for about 10 minutes on this line: Unpacking smbfs (from .../smbfs_3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.4_i386.deb) ...
10:13 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: does capslock flip the light still?
10:14 <@Corydon76-lap> i.e. is it hard-locked, or just thinking?
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10:19 <@wizardpc> had a wee bit of a problem there
10:20 < m0j0-j0j0> try it again with synaptic
10:21 < m0j0-j0j0> apt doesn't give as robust of an error
10:25 <@Neoteric> your mom gives robust arse errors
10:26 < aestetix> Neoteric: mom in the middle?
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10:28 <@Neoteric> wow dtach is my new favorite screen
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10:35 < m0j0-j0j0> considering my mom has been a developer since punch cards, I suspect she gives robust errors.
10:35 <@aestetix> is she hot?
10:35 < m0j0-j0j0> dad thinks so
10:35 <@aestetix> nice
10:42 <@polerin> heh
10:44 <@ware> what did the zero say to the 8? ....where did u get that belt?
10:44 <@ware> rofl
10:46 <@ware> why was the 8 afraid of the 7?  cause 7 8 9
10:46 <@ware> OMGLULZ
10:50 < TheLightCosine> having fun ware? =P
10:53 <@ware> f no
10:53 <@ware> backupexec is supposed2werk like magik
10:53 <@ware> not f with me
10:53 <@ware> and its f'ing with me
10:53 <@ware> nahmsayn
10:54 < Shadow404> lrn2dbadminbkup
10:57 < Curbob> older news but wonder if this is hackable? http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/ebusiness/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=209400613&cid=iwkPrintURL
10:57 <@aestetix> HEY
10:57 <@aestetix> hey*
10:57 <@aestetix> has anyone installed sfslite?
10:58 <@aestetix> on linux
10:58 <@aestetix> In healthy organisms, a surveillance system inside cells called chaperone-mediated autophagy (CMA) locates, digests and destroys damaged proteins.
10:58 <@aestetix> Specialised molecules, the "chaperones", ferry the harmful material to membrane-bound sacs of enzymes within the cells known as lysosomes.
10:58 <@aestetix> obviously it copied the wrong thing to my buffer
10:58 <@aestetix> http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/chord/
10:58 < TheLightCosine> arrg
10:58 <@aestetix> trying to get this running... it's very poorly written
10:59 < TheLightCosine> if i have a vbs inside a webpage, that is using a dsn connection, it should be trying to sue the dsn connection from the server side not the client side, right?
11:01 <@ware> no idea
11:02 <@wizardpc> your webpage has a good lawyer?
11:03 <@polerin> eh
11:03 <@polerin> heh even
11:03 <@wizardpc> but I think the answer is no. VBScript is client side, isn't it?
11:03 < TheLightCosine> crap, yeah
11:03 < TheLightCosine> i just thoguht it out
11:04 < TheLightCosine> the vbs would be cached in the webpage, meaning it runs locally
11:04 < TheLightCosine> i really have to stop thinking in terms of perl.
11:04 <@polerin> why are you using vbs anyway.  Never mind
11:05 <@polerin> I don't want to know
11:05 < TheLightCosine> working with what's on hand.
11:05 < TheLightCosine> and i don't know js
11:05 <@wizardpc> js is the same way
11:06 < TheLightCosine> i know
11:06 < TheLightCosine> i'm just explaining why vbs
11:06 <@polerin> wizardpc: I know js is  the same way, just.. vbs sucks.
11:06 <@polerin> :P
11:06 <@polerin> even more than js
11:06 <@wizardpc> ah okay. You're just going to have to finde a server-side scripting solution
11:06 < TheLightCosine> polerin: you ain't kidding
11:07 < TheLightCosine> heck, a regex is like 4-5 lines to execute in vbs
11:07 < TheLightCosine> that's retarded
11:10 <@wizardpc> installer, v2.4.6.6, 1.1gb
11:10 <@wizardpc> SP1 for v2.4.6.6, 1.1GB
11:10 <@wizardpc> wouldnt that make it 2.4.6.7?
11:12 < TheLightCosine> gwar, I am about 5 minutes away from installing activestate perl on my box
11:13 <@wizardpc> is this for work?
11:13 < TheLightCosine> aye
11:14 <@wizardpc> internal or external page?
11:14 < TheLightCosine> internal
11:15 <@wizardpc> ah, okay. wouldnt want you arbitrarily installing stuff for external use, ya know
11:15 < TheLightCosine> *peers around wodnering if wizardpc works here * =P
11:16 <@wizardpc> maybe, where you at?
11:16 < TheLightCosine> Willis
11:16 <@wizardpc> as in Bruce?
11:17 < TheLightCosine> lol no
11:18 <@wizardpc> what does Willis do?
11:18 < TheLightCosine> Insurance Brokerage
11:18 <@wizardpc> eww
11:18 < TheLightCosine> www.willis.com
11:20 <@wizardpc> well I got word last friday that per company policy (the one that just bought us), USB ports will be completely disabled at some point in the near future
11:21 < TheLightCosine> heh
11:21 <@wizardpc> can someone PLEASE explain to me the securty risk involved in a 3 button mouse?
11:22 <@I-MOD> it has an extra button!
11:22 < TheLightCosine> that is typically just a reghack, although if they set up their GPO right, it will continually take precedence
11:22 <@I-MOD> it's shifty
11:22 <@I-MOD> and scrolly
11:23 <@wizardpc> so it's the riff-raff component?
11:23 <@I-MOD> yes
11:23 <@I-MOD> and it's a bad influence
11:24 <@I-MOD> won't you please think of the children?
11:28 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: the risk is more of an attacker inserting a thumb drive
11:28 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: with autorun enabled
11:28 <@Corydon76-lap> Why they can't make a company policy to disable autorun by default, who knows?
11:29 <@Corydon76-lap> While you can't remove company data as easily, autorun on CD-ROM drives is just as big a hole
11:30 <@ware> SWEET CANDY ASS
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11:38 <@nachoguy> so, any Asterisk gurus want to move to Chicago?
11:40 <@Corydon76-lap> The only way I would consider working in Chicago is if I was paid enough to afford taking a Lear Jet to commute
11:41 <@ware> woot bought a pegasus swissgear backpack finally
11:41 <@nachoguy> Corydon, they tend to pay well, but not that well
11:41 <@nachoguy> although...
11:42 <@nachoguy> we do have a DBA in TX that telecommutes and flys in like once a month
11:42 <@nachoguy> stays for a week and heads home
11:44 <@Dolemite> yay for inheriting .asp code that isn't indented!
11:45 <@Dolemite> I think I'll go to lunch and ponder my good fortune
11:45 <@Corydon76-lap> Dolemite: does it work?
11:54 <@wizardpc> Corydon76-lap: my current client has removeable storage disabled, but the USB ports will take anything else
11:58 <@wizardpc> which is fun when trying to get 800mb of data from their network to my laptop, with only a cell phone for internet access
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12:00 <@nachoguy> wizardpc, usb to ethernet
12:00 <@nachoguy> + crossover ethernet cable
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12:01 <@wizardpc> see, that's gonna cost *me* money
12:01 <@wizardpc> I'd much rather charge them $10,000 for my time
12:01 <@nachoguy> hahaha
12:02 <@wizardpc> which I will continue to do until they realize that I really do need removeable media access
12:02 <@nachoguy> still charge them the $10000, use $12 to but the converter and take all that extra time to do something else
12:02 <@wizardpc> thats what I did last time
12:02 <@Corydon76-lap> WoW?
12:03 <@wizardpc> I disconnected the machine from the network, slapped in a BackTrack CD, and got the files I needed in about 3 minutes
12:03 <@wizardpc> then spent the rest of my time on Monster.com looking for a new job
12:08 <@nachoguy> wizardpc, how're your asterisk skills?
12:08 <@nachoguy> and do you like Chicago?
12:09 <@nachoguy> one of my admins is going to give notice in about an hour
12:16 <@I-MOD> ouch
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12:18 <@nachoguy> I-MOD, he's moving out of the area.  His wife just landed a gig in California.
12:19 <@I-MOD> at least he isn't burning bridges :D
12:19 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : If you're referring to the .asp...   it did in the other environment, but we don't use HPOV Service Desk here, so I have to go strip out the calls to Oracle
12:20 <@nachoguy> I-MOD, I'm waiting until he breaks the news to my boss (the director).  Should be fantastic
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12:20 <@nachoguy> so, ... interested?
12:22 <@wizardpc> chicago can go to hell
12:22 <@nachoguy> ah, excellent
12:22 <@I-MOD> lol
12:24 <@Corydon76-lap> Are you certain Chicago isn't already in hell?
12:24 <@Corydon76-lap> I've been through O'Hare... and I'm not so sure...
12:25 <@nachoguy> ick, O'Hare
12:25 <@rhia> O'Hare is hell, Chicago is just purgatory
12:25 <@nachoguy> I fly to/from MDW whenever possible
12:28 <@wizardpc> I avoid the entire state of illinois if possible
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12:34 <@nachoguy> I'm the same way with Indiana
12:35 <@nachoguy> I have nothing against the state, other than the fact that it's inhabitants can't drive
12:37 <@I-MOD> heh...alabama isn't much better
12:37 <@critch> hmm, never had a problem with drivers in Indiana.
12:37 <@I-MOD> a turn signal that just changed to red means keep fucking going until oncoming traffic forces you to stop or die
12:41 <@I-MOD> cause the people behind you are stupid enough to get pissed that you didn't continue into oncoming traffic
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12:42 <@rhia> only in right turn on red states
12:42 <@I-MOD> it varies light to light here
12:42 <@I-MOD> some say its ok, some don't
12:42 <@I-MOD> rhia, i'm talking left turns
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12:43 <@wizardpc> there's still people in Indiana?
12:43 <@wizardpc> I thought they all left, since about 10% of the cars on I65 have indiana tags
12:47 <@critch> those are the wanderers
12:48 <@nachoguy> wizardpc, the rest of them can't figure out how to get on I65 and are merilly plowing through corn fields.
12:53 < wrench___> I see alot of Ohio tags around lately too.
13:07 < Curbob> just ordered one of the eeePCs, been wanting one after seeing them all at defcon, i need one!! lol
13:08 <+MaxieZ> yeah I saw a guy with one in a bible bag
13:08 < Curbob> hahaha
13:09 < Curbob> i went with the smallest size and only 4G HD, but added 2g ram and think I'll get a SD card to vboot Backtrack from
13:09 <@Neoteric> to watch the olympics online I have to install silver light... thanks MSNBC
13:11 < Shadow404> i hate silverlight
13:11 < Shadow404> try supporting the cdn side of it
13:11 < Shadow404> :(
13:11 <+MaxieZ> 2G should be plenty to run BT in
13:12 < Curbob> i figured, was going to wipe system to just have BT but i think an SD card will work better, have best of both..
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13:17 <@Dolemite> In IIS, if I want to disable user authentication for a subdirectory of a web site that does require authentication, is there an equivalent to .htaccess for apache?
13:17 <@Dolemite> in other words, the root requires authentication, but I want /rss/ to not
13:22 <@Dolemite> anyone?
13:22 <+MxZBot> anyone is interested!'
13:22 <@Dolemite> Beuller?
13:24 <@ware> YES
13:24 <@ware> 42
13:26  * Shadow404 always carries a towel
14:02 < Curbob> i've looked up equivalent to .htaccess for IIS and there are some, but what seems to happen is that then many of the things that IIS controled are now controled by this 3rd party app and you have to go in and reconfigure everything, I'm to lazy to do that
14:04 < Shadow404> im sick and tired of people that dont mind their fucking business at work.
14:04  * Curbob is sorry and won't do it again ;(
14:04 < Curbob> ;)
14:04 <@Dolemite> I got it resolved
14:05 < Curbob> good
14:05 < Shadow404> Boohoo, i am down with work before you and i have time to relax before the next customer calls with a network issue. FFS, not my fault you are slow a fucking turtle
14:05 <@Dolemite> you have to get the server admin to do it in the IIS control panel
14:05 < Shadow404> *done
14:06 < Shadow404> dont go running to the boss cause you think my workload is to small, newsflash, just ran a trouble ticket report, i do more than twice the work you do and have free time to work on projects from home
14:06 < Shadow404> ill refer you to my state about turtles and you above
14:06 < Shadow404> *statement
14:06 < Curbob> lol
14:07 <@ware> OMG U PWN DOOD
14:10 < Shadow404> ok, so last week alone, i did finished 122 tickets, he did a total of 72 and only half are closed
14:10 < Shadow404> all but 3 scheduled tickets are closed
14:11 < Shadow404> sound like the boss will need to talk to him about whining
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14:14 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
14:15 < Shadow404> Dagmar: did hell freeze over?
14:15 <@Dagmar> http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/08/11/brk-chimaera-movie/
14:15 <@Dagmar> Damnit I *need* a WoTLK beta key
14:17 <@Neoteric> how does palestine have an olympic team? they don't even have a country
14:17 <@Dolemite> Don't be such a jew!
14:17 < Curbob> hahah
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14:19 < Curbob> didn't know Chimaera was trainable.. humm
14:21 <@Dagmar> They're new WoTLK-trainable
14:21 <@Dagmar> Holy crap hitting with white for 2k tho
14:22 <@Dagmar> YAY for keeping aggro!
14:22 <@ware> wtf
14:22 <@Dagmar> I'd like to see my pet one-hit the occasional AFK and flagged level 50
14:23 <@Dagmar> Heck someone misclicked and dueled me in Gadgetzan last week
14:23 <@Dagmar> Level 61 rogue.
14:24 <@Dagmar> I think he was expecting the guards to be a problem for me
14:24 <@Dagmar> hehehe
14:27 <@ware> so say i took myself out of the sudoers group
14:27 <@ware> and i dunno the root password
14:27 <@ware> any way other than mounting the file system to change that
14:28 <@ware> boot into single user mode and passwd
14:28 <@ware> maybe that will work
14:31 <@Dagmar> init=/bin/bash
14:31 <@Dagmar> One-stop hopping, that
14:31 <@Dagmar> s/hop/shop/;
14:32 <@ware> yeah, waiting for this vm to build
14:32 <@ware> was trying to add myself to the vboxusers group and fugged up
14:32 <@ware> so now im in ware and vboxusers, exclusivly
14:32 <@ware> lol
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14:49 <+MaxieZ> mount -o remount,rw /
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14:54 <@ware> have to be root to mount
14:56 <@Dagmar> Yes, he's answering the next question you're likely to have after booting with init=/bin/bash
14:57 <+MaxieZ> yep
14:58 <@ware> dun dun it
15:01 <@Neoteric> anyone remember how to use nfs?
15:02 <@Neoteric> specifically how to make the new linux nfsd and rpc.statd bind to a specific interface rather than the any interface.
15:02 <+MaxieZ> Um...I believe nfs is udp
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15:03 <+MaxieZ> I believe portmap handles that decision
15:03 <@Neoteric> MaxieZ: not nfs4
15:04 <+MaxieZ> Looks like portmap -h
15:05 <@nachoguy> http://www.flickr.com/photos/artbikes/2754606482/
15:09 <@Neoteric> hrm... pig fucker.. the portmap thing didn't work
15:09 <@Neoteric> I guess I have to use iptables
15:10 <@ware> i think saving the machine state in the middle of a win2k3 sp2 install with virtualbox is actually going to work
15:12 <@ware> "whats the computer name of that machine?"
15:12 <@ware> 'oh! its Andrea's Computer'
15:13  * ware swandive into the asphalt
15:18 <@ware> yay money!
15:18  * ware is happeh agin
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15:36 <@ShadowHntr> afternoon
15:50  * Shadow404 takes ware's money and runs
15:50  * ware throws a chair at Shadow404, walks over and takes his money back
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15:52 < Shadow404> ware: if you ddnt notice earlier, i switched out your chair with a balsa wood one
15:52  * Shadow404 jumps in car and drives away after running ware over
15:52 <@ware> yes, balsa wood makes my accuracy and distance 10x better
15:53  * ware buys a metal chair with his money and throws it at Shadow404 
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15:57 <@polerin> btw
15:57 <@polerin> is there a good way to quickly see where most of a partition's space is being used?
15:57 <@ware>        .-===-.   WATCH
15:57 <@ware>        | . . |    OUT
15:57 <@ware>        | .'. |    ITS
15:57 <@ware>       ()_____()   MAH
15:57 <@ware>       ||_____||  CHAIR!
15:57 <@ware>        W     W        -ware
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16:01 <@ShadowHntr> polerin: df -h doesn't work for ya?
16:01 <@polerin> windows
16:01 <@polerin> sorry
16:01 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
16:01 <@ShadowHntr> um
16:01 <@polerin> basicly I checked my free space before starting something and was like .. hhmmm  17 gigs.
16:01 <@ShadowHntr> www.jgoodies.com/http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
16:01 <@ShadowHntr> ack
16:01 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
16:01 <@polerin> out of 180... lets see what I can unstall :P
16:02 <@ShadowHntr> that's what i use
16:02 <@polerin> ah, thanks
16:02 <@ShadowHntr> no prob
16:03 <@ShadowHntr> here's hoping my mom passes as a cosigner on my lease on a new apartment
16:03 <@ShadowHntr> if so, i move in on the 20th
16:03 <@ShadowHntr> even if i'm out of town at that time lol
16:04 <@polerin> OH
16:04 <@polerin> ok that makes more sense
16:04 <@ShadowHntr> i make more money than her
16:04 <@polerin> I didn't read the legend correctly.  17 gigs used.
16:04 <@ShadowHntr> but i need a cosigner lol
16:04 <@ShadowHntr> :)
16:04 <@polerin> I was like.. wtf!
16:05 <@ShadowHntr> whoops
16:05 <@polerin> hey, i'm not complaining.  that means I haev 169 free to fart with
16:05 <@ShadowHntr> :]
16:10 <@polerin> thanks for the utility though, that's usefull
16:12 <@ShadowHntr> no prob
16:12 <@ShadowHntr> it's been a lifesaver for me
16:16  * ware takes the computer away from polerin 
16:25 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_ back yet?
16:27 <@Evilpig> just watch this URL.  I had to get it posted before he got back
16:27 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkbCm3GD1YU
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> video's unavailable
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> :)
16:28 -!- Evilpig changed the topic of #se2600 to: http://amd.hope.net Tracking Data from The Last HOPE released! | PN12 Volunteer Signup - http://www.phreaknic.info/volunteers/ | Anyone interested in a LAN party in Nashville, contact ware | Skydog in vegas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkbCm3GD1YU
16:28 <@Evilpig> I just posted it. give it a few minutes
16:32  * Neoteric taps foot
16:36 <@Evilpig> youtube is slow
16:36 <@Evilpig> that was only a 3MB clip of like 15 - 30 sec
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16:39 < Curbob> can anyone else get to gmail?
16:39 <@Dagmar> Seems to be working fine to me
16:39 < Curbob> We’re sorry, but your Gmail account is currently experiencing errors. You won’t be able to use your account while these errors last, but don’t worry, your account data and messages are safe. Our engineers are working to resolve this issue.
16:39 < Curbob> Please try accessing your account again in a few minutes
16:40 <@Dagmar> ...
16:40 <@Dagmar> "but your Gmail account"
16:41 < Curbob> i know, thought it was strange
16:41 <@Dagmar> Don't worry.  They'll unlock it once the DHS have completed backing up your mail spool.
16:41 <@Dagmar> For the Homeland!
16:42 < Curbob> d'oh that's what I get for going to defcon
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16:46 <@ware> FUCKING PWNT
16:46 <@ShadowHntr> shit
16:46 <@ShadowHntr> my gmail
16:46 <@ShadowHntr> :P
16:46 <@ware> Evilpig: directlink plz
16:48 <@Evilpig> there is no direct link.  it will be there once it processes
16:48 <@Evilpig> this is weird.  normally they process really fast
16:48 <@critch> anyone want to go see a movie about Hunter S. Thompson this week?
16:50 <@ShadowHntr> ?
16:52 <@wizardpc> can we please just send one little AH-64D squadron to Tblisi? PLEEEEZE?
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16:56 <@nachoguy> pig, omgwtfbbq, where is the video?
16:56 <@Evilpig> harass youtube.  it's being retarded.  probably because I tagged it defcon
16:59 <@Dagmar> wizardpc: Yeah, like, it's pretty obvious Russia was playing on the news schedule and the Olympics to get a head-start on the invasion without the world noticing before they were 3/4 done
17:00 <@wizardpc> It's also pretty obvious we're going to sit back and let it happen, too
17:00 <@wizardpc> seriously, 20 apache's and we'll have that shit wrapped up in about 20 minutes
17:01 <@ware> lol
17:01 <@ware> 20 apaches vs russia == teh win
17:01 <@wizardpc> but then we have to worry about the thermonuclear counterstrikes
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17:06 <@ware> 6d ban for being an asshat
17:08 <@Corydon76-lap> ware: if that were the criteria, I'm surprised you aren't banned
17:08 <@ware> same for you mr chan owner
17:09 <@wizardpc> what did he do?
17:09 <@ware> +kb'ing left and right after ppl told him to quit
17:11 <@Dagmar> Let me guess... You're talking about coil?
17:12 <@polerin> wizardpc: yeah, russias a bunch of bullshit, and bush doesn't even have the balls carter did :P
17:12 <@polerin> which is pretty sad
17:13  * wizardpc searches for carter's military prowess
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17:14 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: you see the story on Cheney today?
17:14 <@wizardpc> negative, not really looking though. too pissed about georgia
17:15 <@polerin> wizardpc: not that, pulling out of the olympics
17:15 <@Corydon76-lap> Two sources are now reporting that Cheney is the source for the forged letter linking Hussein to Al Quaeda
17:15 <@Corydon76-lap> As in, he directly commissioned the production of the letter
17:16 <@Dagmar> Holy schit
17:16 <@Dagmar> do you have links for that?
17:16 <@Dagmar> That needs to be on Memestreams
17:17 <@critch> http://www.ronsuskind.com/thewayoftheworld/transcripts/
17:17 <@critch> don't recognize the name, so...
17:18 <@Corydon76-lap> critch: link the rawstory link, it had the other source, too
17:18 <@critch> http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Tape_Top_CIA_officer_confesses_order_0808.html
17:19 <@Corydon76-lap> The American Conservative was the other source.  It's in the final section of that story
17:19 <@wizardpc> Don't see it on CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC...
17:19 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: give it a few days
17:20 <@critch> and after all the altered footage of the olympics, I don't know if NBC could be considered trustworthy
17:20 <@wizardpc> yeah because the media wouldnt absolutely JUMP on this if it were true, right?
17:21 <@critch> hey, I mentioned I didn't know the name of the guy in the first link. I am not yet fully trusting the story. It isn't implausable though.
17:21 <@nachoguy> altered footage of the olypmics?
17:21 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: I believe after the other letter incident, they're back on about needing confirmation before reporting a single source story
17:21 <@critch> nachoguy: yeah, fake fireworks, reordered the countries as they marched out
17:21 <@wizardpc> well rawstory says that the guy THINKS it came from Cheney, so that's hardly anything
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17:23 <@Evilpig> it's live!
17:23 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkbCm3GD1YU
17:23 <@critch> nachoguy: http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/09/2231231
17:23 <@ware> Evilpig: thats not the one we want!
17:24 <@Evilpig> what were you expecting?
17:24 <@Evilpig> i'll be back later
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17:24 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: I mentioned it, because The American Conservative published the piece
17:24 <@nachoguy> meh, I reorder countries and make fake fireworks all the time
17:24 <@critch> Evilpig: ohh, boy it is SkyDog_ acting like the pug video I can't stand.
17:24 <@nachoguy> Pig, I waited for that?
17:25 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: I figure if the guys who once thought Cheney was a great statesman are going after him, there must be something to it
17:26 <@wizardpc> or it could be some guy is tring to sell a bunch of books
17:26 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: but you don't usually see the conservative press reporting a story that hurts someone they like, unless there's something to the story
17:27 <@Corydon76-lap> Anyway, it's worth keeping an eye out for
17:27 <@wizardpc> I dont consider therawstory to be the conservative press
17:28 <@wizardpc> what with the obama campaign ads, and the "Advertise liberally" logo
17:28 <@Corydon76-lap> I meant The American Conservative
17:28 <@Dagmar> This is some serious shit to be saying
17:28 <@Dagmar> That book could result in someone getting impeached with a quickness.
17:28 <@wizardpc> I see that it was picked up by thinkProgress.....
17:29 <@wizardpc> okay now I see it
17:30  * wizardpc has never heard of the magazine, though
17:30 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: not really.  The Congressional leaders already agreed they wouldn't pursue impeachment
17:30 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: it was one of their 2006 campaign promises that put the D's back in power
17:30 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: www.amconmag.com is the site
17:30 <@wizardpc> http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2008/08/07/suskind-revisited/
17:31 <@Corydon76-lap> wizardpc: founded by Pat Buchanan
17:31 <@wizardpc> okay, but that directly contradicts the story
17:31 <@wizardpc> It's very much the "fake, but accurate" thing that bit rather
17:35 <@ShadowHntr> http://blog.au.org/2008/08/11/defending-deceit-religious-right-legal-group-fights-for-duplicity-on-the-ballot/
17:38 <@Dagmar> ShadowHunter: You need to post that to Memestreams.
17:38 <@Dagmar> If for no other reason to combat possibly noteworthy's continual stream of random crap.
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18:01 <@brimstone> so noteworthy isn't?
18:03 <@ShadowHntr> lol
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18:26 < TheLightCosine> so, any of the defcon attendees back?
18:28 <@ware> couple
18:28 <@ware> it was the bomb
18:28 <@ware> eod
18:28  * ware spirals out to Tool
18:30 <@tcstool> you didn't go liar
18:30 < TheLightCosine> i'm just wondering what other interesting talks went on beside the whole kamisky thing, seems to be all el reg and the like are really picking up on
18:31 < TheLightCosine> oh, and the ssl vpn Zusman thing
18:32 <@ware> tcstool: they are all going to say it kicked ass
18:32 <@ware> and thats about the summary
18:32 <@ware> so i summed it up
18:33 < TheLightCosine> heh, and a fine summary it was ware
18:34 <@ware> haha
18:34 <@ware> SO
18:34 <@ware> buy.fucking.com fucked my shit up
18:34 <@ware> and posted twice
18:34 <@ware> so i have 2 swissgear pegasus backpacks on the way
18:35 <@ware> so if anyone wants to buy one for $80 i have one brand spankin new
18:35 <@ware> http://www.buy.com/prod/wenger-pegasus-swissgear-computer-backpack-fits-up-to-17-screens/q/loc/16234/202719436.html
18:35 <@ware> its the largest pack they have
18:36 <+MaxieZ> So I was thinking of doing a talk on Firefox extensions...Some good ones, how to write you're own, some fun things you can do with greasemonkey etc...does that sound at all interesting?
18:36 <+MaxieZ> TheLightCosine: I'm back
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20:33 <@cordless> hm
20:43 < eryc> shutup
20:44 <@ware> eryc: be nice
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20:46 < eryc> im going to stuff you in your swedish backpack and send you back to buy.com
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21:21 <@Dagmar> lol way to get fired http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm?THREAD=192300&BHCP=1%2C1%2C1&bhcp=1
21:27 <@Evilpig> c/topic
21:27 <@Evilpig> damnit
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21:31 <@sdodson> CALIFORNIA!!!!!
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21:34 <@Dagmar> INTERNETS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmjnYKlVnM
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22:33 <@polerin> oh holy shit
22:33 <@polerin> I'm not normaly one for mens gymnastics
22:33 <@Dagmar> You just saw that Spring kid, right?
22:34 <@Dagmar> He kicked some serious ASS there
22:34 <@polerin> all THREE of the highbar
22:34 <@polerin> did you see the guy before?
22:34 <@Dagmar> Yep
22:34 <@polerin> yeah
22:34 <@polerin> seriously
22:34 <@polerin> INSANE olympics this year
22:34 <@Dagmar> He looked like he was suprised he landed it
22:34 <@ware> rofl
22:34 <@polerin> lol
22:34 <@polerin> yeah
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22:34 <@polerin> lissa said that too
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22:34 <@polerin> and didn't jsut land it, but feet made of glue
22:35 <@Dagmar> This is why I was ranting about hte girls gymnastics from the other day
22:35 <@polerin> no stuck landings
22:35 <@polerin> at all
22:35 <@Dagmar> Those little girls look like they could eat ninjas for lunch
22:35 <@Dagmar> The floor acrobatics or whatever it was
22:35 <@Dagmar> They were hitting the floor so hard with no bounce whatsoever to it like the floor just had to TAKE it.
22:35 <@polerin> hehe
22:36 <@polerin> yeah
22:36 <@polerin> the vault not so much :/
22:36 <@polerin> but yeah
22:36 <@Dagmar> I told NotLarry "put those girls in stiletto heels and give 'em a pair of krysknives and guys from the UFC would probably run screaming"
22:39 <@Dagmar> DAMN
22:39 <@Dagmar> They really need to tell the camera managers to switch cameras when someone's taking their SHORTS off to put on pants
22:39 <@polerin> lol
22:39 <@Dagmar> Geez let 'em have at least a LITTLE privacy
22:41 <@polerin> Oh god
22:41 <@Dagmar> eh?
22:42 <@polerin> I've given you OOP  OO  Encapsulation, and inheritence.  What more Keywords do you need to in order to find a decent online tutorial for understanding OOP
22:42 <@polerin> (like not just the leters "OOP" I defined it)
22:42 <@Dagmar> Is Miss Chan in the audience tonight?"
22:43 <@polerin> ?
22:43 <@polerin> (sorry, I was bitching about someone in another channel who I've repeatidly told to go understand the basics before they try to hook into an OOP game engine)
22:44 <@polerin> "I don't know how to learn"
22:44 <@polerin> well.. sorry,  I guess your shit out of luck then aren't you
22:45 <@sdodson> hi
22:46 <@Dagmar> Well, at least they didn't try to tell you "but iv been reeding for hours and HOURS"
22:46 <@sdodson> tralalala
22:52 <@polerin> Dagmar: seen that, done it too
22:56 <@polerin> oh god
22:56 <@polerin> now they are saying that it's easy
22:57 <@polerin> if it's easy and you knew it from context clues, why are you having such a problem with the api?
22:57 <@polerin> meh
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23:03 <@Dagmar> If it were easy, any asshole could and would be doing it
23:07 <@sdodson> Like Playing Wow!
23:08 <@polerin> heh
23:09 <@polerin> yeah, trust me, I'm not expecting it to be easy, so I'm sorta setting the intial expectations a little lower
23:14 <@Dagmar> Maybe start with some metaphors to give them the right idea about objects and inheritance
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23:19 <@Dagmar> sdodson: I can assure you that from looking at the forums, not everyone can play WoW.
23:21 <@polerin> Dagmar: oh hell no, I'm not spoon feeding someone OO when they are insisting on quizzing on specific parts of the API and not caring what it actually means.
23:21 <@ware> luls
23:22 <@ware> Anachronos in Gadgetztan
23:22 <@ware> wuz pretty funneh
23:22 <@Dagmar> Polerin: There's the problem
23:22 <@Dagmar> If they can't read the API, no amount of spoon feeding is going to help and they can't read the API because they don't understand what the fuck it's talking about.
23:23 <@Dagmar> Give 'em a good, clear explanation of OO and ignore the "i cant reed" questions.
23:23 <@polerin> I don't have the energy for spoonfeeding someone OO
23:23 <@polerin> I've been coding for about 13 hours, and I'm about done
23:25 <@polerin> not to mention that I'm a newb in the channel, and know very little about the actual package.  I'm sitting in there to listen to peoples issues and problems to learn how it works and what some common errors are in.
23:25 <@sdodson> OO isn't a terribly easy concept to grasp if you're completely unfamiliar with it.
23:25 <@Dagmar> Maybe for you
23:25 <@sdodson> I remember some wanker here questioning that it was the one true way.
23:25 <@polerin> sdodson: it's not that... it's the complete and utter unwillingness to even try
23:25 <@Dagmar> Some people have learned the wrong thinggs to begin with
23:26 <@polerin> I meen, I'm far from an OO guru or anything, but I at least understand the basics and can implement those cleanly most of the time
23:27 <@sdodson> ie: Perl coders!
23:27 <@Dagmar> Teach 'em about the turtles.
23:27 <@sdodson> with that I call it a night
23:28 <@Dagmar> Momma turtle migrates to canada, and becomes a canadian.  All her baby turtles inherit the attribute "canadian"
23:29 <@Dagmar> They're still her baby turtles, and if you take one and ship it off to Mexico, it's still a Canadian turtle.
23:29 <@polerin> Dagmar: 13 hours.  after 13 hours yesterday.  and I feel like shit anyway
23:29 <@polerin> no energy for spoon feeding ;P
23:30 <@Dagmar> Not to sound cruel, but this is the look of me not caring
23:30 <@Dagmar> I sit in a channel with fucking couch potatoes attracted to it like flies to shit.
23:30 <@Dagmar> "my tv doesn't work"
23:30 <@Dagmar> <Dagmar> Call a fuckin' repairman then.
23:30 <@polerin> Dagmar: ... wait.. working 13 hours straight makes me lazy?
23:30 <@Dagmar> It's a fight to get those fuckers to even describe the problem
23:31 <@Dagmar> polerin: No, I'm saying it's unlikely your newbs are worse than the newbs I deal with
23:31 <@polerin> oh
23:31 <@polerin> ehh
23:32 <@polerin> I don't care to compare ;P
23:32 <@Dagmar> I'd like to skin some of them and make lampshades.
23:32 <@polerin> I just refuse to help people who argue with me :)
23:32 <@polerin> I'm a bitch like that
23:33 <@Dagmar> I tell them things that I know they won't undertstand until after they'v figured it out.
23:33 <@Dagmar> I'm a _bastard_.
23:33 <@Dagmar> We get a LOT of bald-faced liars in #MythTV.
23:34 <@polerin> Eh, I don't care, I like helping, but I don't care to help people who won't help push :P
23:36 <@polerin> I guess it helps that I don't have to support end users mostly
23:37 <@polerin> so I can set the bar a bit higher.. but I still get some damn stupid developers
23:40 <@polerin> you know, as much as I'm SO not a fan of china
23:40 <@polerin> It's still pretty cool for them to get That particular gold
23:40 <@Dagmar> Yah they're doing a bit much endzone celebration there.
23:41 <@polerin> what, the US?
23:41 <@polerin> Naw, they weren't even supposed to make it into the finals with that team basicly :P
23:41 <@Dagmar> That indian-lookin dude on the USA team is a freaking ace on the pommel horse
23:41 <@polerin> he is yeah, but the guy who followed him?
23:41 <@Dagmar> I was talking about the Chinese overcelebrating
23:41 <@ware> http://stonermoments.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=88133
23:41 <@polerin> oh
23:41 <@polerin> I donno, I think that's china's first mens gold?
23:42 <@ware> dunno where hes from but hes big
23:42 <@Dagmar> Ware: NotLarry was dragging Emberstrike to the Crossroads last night
23:42 <@ware> durno who that is either
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23:43 <@ware> i havent done any instances past a few at 60
23:43 <@Dagmar> Those dragons aren't inside instances
23:43 <@ware> whatever that first one is in outlands
23:43 <@ware> ohh
23:43 <@Dagmar> I could take Anachronos to Gadgetzan no problem
23:43 <@Dagmar> Outlands dragons are another ball of wax entirely
23:43 <@Dagmar> They're fucking NASTY
23:44 <@Dagmar> It's not very hard for a warlock or a hunter to lead a mob anywhere so long as it doesn't have ranged attacks.
23:45 <@Dagmar> Curse of Exhaustion for warlocks does little damage (so it doesnt DIE before you get there), slows the mob down, and is easy to recast while moving.
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23:45 <@Dagmar> Hunters should pretty much _practice_ "jump shots" and the ice trap is helpful
23:45 <@ware> yeah i started a lock
23:45 <@ware> just cause they are nasty in BGs
23:46 <@ware> stupid dots
23:46 <@ware> http://stonermoments.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=88138
23:46 <@ware> theres some pvp ownage in WSG
23:47 <@Dagmar> Looks like Phneak has a macro
23:47 <@Dagmar> Tag someone a few times and then ignore them.
23:47 <@ware> "lol" and "you lose"
23:47 <@ware> i yell out some gibbeish and the alli's see that
23:47 <@Dagmar> Odds are that even if they're fighting someone else later, if your dots are still going, you'll get the kill
23:48 <@Dagmar> ..and if you only smack someone with 2-3 DoTs they'll think they've lost you
23:48 <@Dagmar> ...cuz it's not enough to kil them outright, then they run into someone with a sword
23:49 <@Dagmar> You'll note that Hunters can kinda pull a similar stunt
23:49 <@Dagmar> Between the pet and shot macros, we rail out a lot of smaller hits per second, so the odds are higher _we'll_ be the one to push someone to 0HP
23:50 <@Dagmar> That rinky-dink extra damage thing we got from the Midsummer Cash Festival was a licence to mass-murder
23:50 <@Dagmar> 30% chance of 700 damage per hit?
23:51 <@Dagmar> ...when I'm hitting 2-3x a second?
23:51 <@Dagmar> Jesus christ
23:51 <@Dagmar> I'm sure it caught a lot of people by suprise
23:51 <@Dagmar> That fucking buff was doubling my DPS
23:52 <@Dagmar> I hit almost 1800 DPS on some druid who tried to get to somewhere he could just stand and heal himself
23:53 <@ware> thats crazy
23:54 <@Dagmar> THat one is my second favorite holiday
23:55 <@Dagmar> I wasn't kidding when I said that the fire blossom buff meant "Retribution will be swift and brutal"
23:55 <@Dagmar> People were sneaking into Stormwind to put out the bonfire, and sometimes I'd let them get it just so I could toss a blossom on the fire to relight it for the buff
23:56 <@Dagmar> First guy I killed with that buff on it took me a bit to figure out what happened.  I thought he was a ballsy level 50 or somethign
23:57 <@Dagmar> The druid was my favorite kill.  I didn't even know they could stealth.  eheh
23:57 <@Dagmar> He jumped into the canal and I guess he figured I'd have to swim after him, but I had some water walking potions, so I just ran along after him with Spirit of the Cheetah on.
23:58 <@Dagmar> He really gave me a run for the money.
23:58 <@Dagmar> I loged into my horde alt and send him a congraulatory note
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