--- Log opened Thu Aug 07 00:00:28 2008 00:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Vagina-flavored ice cream? 00:21 <@Dagmar> I'm glad that is a hoax 00:21 <@Dagmar> If it weren't it would basically be a tombstone for someone's career. 00:26 <@Corydon76-dig> but since it's parody, it's clearly a hallmark of someone's career 00:26 <@Dagmar> Yeah it's a good one 00:29 < eryc> i want one of those popsicles now 00:29 < eryc> all i have is breyers vanilla 00:30 < eryc> clearly im lacking something to lick 00:34 -!- freakn [i=freakn@silenceisdefeat.org] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Isn't it odd, though, that intent matters so much? You were ready to rip out the throat of the guy who made the ad, until it got called a parody, and then you wanted to congratulate him on a fine piece of work... 00:55 <@Jagobah> ice cream ;0 01:30 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: doesn't supprise me 01:31 <@polerin> to be honest I do the same thing... especially with controversial art 01:32 <@polerin> if something is blatently sexist/racist/homophobic/what-have-you (I'm not talking pinups here..) with the intent of being so, it irks me 01:33 <@polerin> if something is a parody of the same with the intent of calling the assumption portrayed into question, I can find it interesting.. even if I'm not like "YES! I *have* to have that on my wall" 02:26 -!- Tuttle| [n=NA@c-68-53-16-218.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:29 -!- Godstrong [i=Godstron@24-183-213-128.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["I was only here because my server was down...hahaha"] 02:35 < eryc> http://music.metafilter.com/2380/ 03:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 04:32 <@polerin> ugh 04:32 <@polerin> I want to go to bed 05:26 -!- sCoil [n=coil@69.150.79.10] has joined #se2600 05:26 < sCoil> Shadow404 05:36 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@24-158-189-106.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:39 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.143.2] has joined #se2600 05:59 -!- Feltenix_ [n=Tanstaaf@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 06:13 -!- Feltenix [n=Tanstaaf@adsl-219-168-220.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:33 -!- TheLightCosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f4ac2c6c7640712] has joined #se2600 06:34 < TheLightCosine> hooray for web-based irc clients 06:51 -!- TheLightCosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f4ac2c6c7640712] has left #se2600 [] 07:16 -!- sCoil was kicked from #se2600 by Shadow404 [still banned] 07:16 -!- sCoil [n=coil@69.150.79.10] has joined #se2600 07:30 -!- TheLightCosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cc7343a901428ef7] has joined #se2600 07:33 < TheLightCosine> quiet here in the am 07:35 <@I-MOD> only sometimes 07:35 * I-MOD waits for the mr0nin 07:36 * Shadow404 tries to shoot big ball of fire with shotgun 07:36 * Shadow404 is showered with free falling pellet aftermath 07:37 <@I-MOD> shooting straight up again? 07:37 <@Shadow404> yeah, got blinded when i tried to shoot the damn thing 07:37 <@Shadow404> its a safety hazard, see 07:38 <@I-MOD> you apparently don't 07:44 < TheLightCosine> *sigh* lunch is always over too fast 07:45 <@I-MOD> if it's lunch time, where the hell are you? europe? 07:46 < TheLightCosine> I'm in Nashville but I work on a London schedule 07:46 < TheLightCosine> so i work 3am-noon 07:52 <@I-MOD> crazy 07:56 < TheLightCosine> you get used to it 07:56 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 07:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 08:02 < TheLightCosine> it does provide the benfit of having the afternoon free 08:06 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 08:06 <@I-MOD> yeah, strages pulls the midnight to 8am shift 08:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v MaxieZ] by ChanServ 08:08 < TheLightCosine> I'm new to this area though, so i don't know anyone or anywhere, so I jsut go to work and go home and that's it which kind of sucks 08:08 < TheLightCosine> but I have a familly so it's not like i'm a free man anymore anyways 08:09 -!- Tuttle| [n=NA@c-68-53-16-218.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:20 -!- Curbob [n=curbob@12.51.122.34] has joined #se2600 08:37 -!- sCoil [n=coil@69.150.79.10] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:38 -!- sCoil [n=coil@adsl-68-89-130-182.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] has joined #se2600 08:48 <@dc0de> well, I'm outty... off to vegas... see you when I get there, if you're going or already there. 08:48 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #se2600 ["Leaving"] 08:49 < TheLightCosine> lucky 08:49 < TheLightCosine> I wish i was going to DEFcon 08:50 < TheLightCosine> ah well, i'll just look forward to phreaknic 08:50 < Curbob> i fly out tomorrow early morning, i can't wait 08:50 < TheLightCosine> i hope to go next year 08:50 <@I-MOD> i need to plan on going next year as well 08:50 < TheLightCosine> need to save up money 08:50 <@I-MOD> ditto 08:51 < Curbob> but you'll love phreaknic 08:51 <+MaxieZ> I'm leaving tonight 08:52 < TheLightCosine> yeah, anyone know when the list of presentations will be released? for phreaknic that is 08:54 <@ware> thought there was one up 08:54 < TheLightCosine> hmm when i checked yesterday it was blank, it may have been updated since then 08:54 < TheLightCosine> can't access the phreaknic site from work, stupid websense 08:55 <@I-MOD> yay proxies 08:55 <@I-MOD> ssl proxies even 08:56 < Curbob> the cool thing about Phreaknic is even if a talk is going on that you have no interest in, you can head to the top floor and hang out with people, hack things, play games, watch anime.. all kinds of stuff 08:57 <@Evilpig> I'm outta here. see you ppl in vegas 08:57 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has joined #se2600 08:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 08:57 <+MaxieZ> later pig! 08:59 < Curbob> later man 08:59 < TheLightCosine> have fun pig 09:00 * Curbob know nothing will get done at work today 09:01 < TheLightCosine> I-Mod: proxies are already set on all our boxes, and while i could easily remove the reghack locking it in place and put my own proxy info in there, the second I get caught doing it I will have a lot of splaining to do =P 09:04 <+MaxieZ> I'm leaving at noon. Flight leaves at 7 and I have to say good bye to the kids, pack and all 09:09 <@I-MOD> TheLightCosine, that's about 10 different kinds of lame 09:10 < TheLightCosine> yep 09:13 < TheLightCosine> i suppose i could set up an ssh tunnel once i get my server box at home back up and running 09:14 <@Shadow404> ware: ping bitch 09:14 <@Shadow404> sCoil: go diaf 09:15 <@Shadow404> i thought you were banned anyway 09:20 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:21 <+MaxieZ> Howdi Dolemite 09:21 <@Dolemite> howdy ho 09:22 <@ware> Shadow404: sup 09:22 <@ware> mornin dole 09:22 < Curbob> Southern California Hot Spot Hits 812 Degrees, Baffles Experts http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398484,00.html 09:22 <@ware> wow 09:23 <@oddball> Yeah, southern California has decided to try something new to try to convince folks to move the fuck away from southern California. 09:25 <@ware> haha 09:26 <@Shadow404> thats insane 09:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*n=coil@*.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] by ware 09:27 -!- sCoil was kicked from #se2600 by ware [you have 3 more days in timeout] 09:28 <@rhia> proof to the far right that southern cal is just a portal to hell 09:32 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.143.2] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:32 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.143.2] has joined #se2600 09:32 <@oddball> I've been saying it for years. Earthquaks, floods, droughts, mudslides, giant fires... That would tell me to move. 09:33 <@Shadow404> sounds like paradise for an insurance salesman 09:34 <@rhia> you guys still pay attention to the se2600 mini city? 09:35 <@Shadow404> i lost my obsession for minicity about the same time that i did wares mom 09:36 <@Shadow404> fun at first, but gets boring quick 09:36 <@rhia> just some new name shot into 2nd this week ... ~shrug~ 09:39 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 09:41 <@ware> rhia: brimstone killed the scripts 09:41 <@ware> we checked it a couple weeks ago and we were still at the top of the group 09:42 <@rhia> that Black-Hall wasn't in the top 7 last week 09:49 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.143.2] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:49 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:50 -!- shadowmoss [n=shadowmo@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 09:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o shadowmoss] by ChanServ 09:53 <@shadowmoss> knock knock, anyone home? 09:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Nobody here but us chickens 09:53 <@shadowmoss> oh, ok, sorry 09:53 <@I-MOD> hickory dickory dock? 09:53 <@ware> m0000! 09:54 <@shadowmoss> for once I just stopped in to chat 09:54 <@I-MOD> yay? 09:54 < TheLightCosine> wow picking up in here 09:54 <@I-MOD> you should do it more often 09:54 * shadowmoss smooches I-MOD 09:55 <@I-MOD> :D 09:55 <@ware> !!!!!!! 09:56 <@shadowmoss> anyone see catonic lately? 09:56 * shadowmoss pets ware 09:56 <@ware> hes probably at teh gym, or a bar mackin on a h0 09:56 * shadowmoss smacks ware 09:57 <@ware> well its true! 09:57 <@ware> Catonic: ping 09:57 <@shadowmoss> you should go to a gym occassionally 09:58 * I-MOD goes to the gym 09:58 <@shadowmoss> so, I leave for the pacific northwest on Monday for 3 weeks 09:58 * shadowmoss hugs I-MOD 09:58 <@I-MOD> training? 09:58 <+MxZBot> training is easy and only takes a few mins 09:58 * I-MOD kicks MxZBot 09:58 * shadowmoss hugs MxZBot 09:58 <@shadowmoss> I will be doing the training at a National Guard unit in Pendleton, or 09:59 <@shadowmoss> shadowmoss? 09:59 <+MxZBot> shadowmoss are you a female? 09:59 <@shadowmoss> ok, no one has changed it... 09:59 <@shadowmoss> MxZBot: shadowmoss is female 09:59 <+MxZBot> ...but shadowmoss is already something else... 10:00 <@shadowmoss> shadowmoss? 10:00 <+MxZBot> shadowmoss are you a female? 10:00 <@I-MOD> so you're training the unit, or training with the unit? 10:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh 10:00 <@shadowmoss> ok, how do I change it? 10:00 <@I-MOD> MxZBot, forget shadowmoss 10:00 <@Corydon76-dig> MxZBot: no, shadowmoss is a female 10:00 <+MxZBot> okay, Corydon76-dig 10:00 <@shadowmoss> I'm doing part of the training of the unit on our software 10:00 <@I-MOD> cool 10:00 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss? 10:00 <+MxZBot> shadowmoss is a female 10:00 -!- Gregabyte_ [n=wintermu@conference/asterisk/x-920d1af569a321c1] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:00 <@shadowmoss> thanks 10:00 <@shadowmoss> I-MOD? 10:01 <@shadowmoss> hmmm, he doesn't know you 10:01 <@I-MOD> apparently not 10:01 <@shadowmoss> MxZBot: I-MOD is cute 10:01 <+MxZBot> shadowmoss: okay 10:01 <@shadowmoss> there, now he does :) 10:01 <@I-MOD> lol 10:01 -!- Gregabyte_ [n=wintermu@conference/asterisk/x-63828f64570d4f00] has joined #se2600 10:02 <@shadowmoss> ok, need to go walk around and look busy 10:03 <@I-MOD> ditto :/ 10:03 <@Corydon76-dig> http;//asterisk.drunkcoder.com/sounds/nobody-but-chickens.wav SFW 10:03 <@I-MOD> s/;/:/ 10:04 <@Corydon76-dig> http://asterisk.drunkcoder.com/sounds/nobody-but-chickens.wav SFW 10:04 -!- Gregabyte_ [n=wintermu@conference/asterisk/x-63828f64570d4f00] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:10 -!- Gregabyte_ [n=wintermu@conference/asterisk/x-d064d0f8a8ae9d1f] has joined #se2600 10:13 <@polerin> re: 812 degrees... yet another reason that I don't live in soCal any more 10:14 <@oddball> I was unaware you ever lived out there 10:14 <@polerin> I was born in riverside 10:14 <@oddball> gotcha 10:14 <@polerin> and people have suggested moving back there 10:18 <@I-MOD> i'm guessing volcanic vent :D 10:18 < Tuttle|> *agree 10:19 <@I-MOD> would be nuts if a new volcano popped up there in the next year or so 10:19 < TheLightCosine> or one of the seven doors of death? 10:20 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: not impossible... anywhere there is a fault line, there is a potential for a volcano 10:20 <@ware> its 7 gates of hell 10:20 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 10:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 10:20 <@ware> and one of them is at Corydon76-dig's house 10:20 < TheLightCosine> ware: I know, Seven Doors of Death is a Lucio Fulce movie about one of the gates of hell 10:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Good thing I keep that gate locked, eh? 10:21 <@ware> ahhhh word 10:21 <@ware> ~google for Seven Doors of Death imdb 10:21 < TheLightCosine> sorry, i have a thing for old zombie/horror movies =P 10:21 <+MxZBot> Google says Seven Doors of Death imdb is at http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Doors-Death-K-Widescreen/dp/B00004ZEQY or http://www.eztakes.com/store/movie/Rogues-Gallery-and-The-Black-Raven-and-Seven-Doors-to-Death-Movie-Download.jsp or http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082307/ 10:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually it's not so much locked as it is wedged shut 10:22 <@ware> User Rating: 6.9/10 (3,988 votes) not bad 10:22 < TheLightCosine> hmm i spelled his name wrong 10:23 < TheLightCosine> hmm, google bot, nifty 10:23 < TheLightCosine> *flashbacks to old IRC days.... !fserv 10:23 * I-MOD is ready for socal to slide into the ocean 10:24 < TheLightCosine> god I hate Lotus Notes... 10:26 * ware needs to find frozen food alternatives to Healthy Choice 10:26 <@ware> Hungry Man's are just as much as going out to eat 10:27 <@ware> but i dont wanna eat sandwich's everyday for lunch 10:27 <@I-MOD> baby carrots 10:27 <@I-MOD> have fun 10:27 <@ware> lol 10:27 <@I-MOD> i get frozen stuff for <3.00 a meal 10:27 <@ware> yeah thats what ive been trying lately 10:28 <@ware> i think cooking and leftovers is the best bet 10:28 <@I-MOD> yeah 10:28 <@ware> chicken / hamburger helper 10:28 <@ware> pastas 10:28 <@I-MOD> you can get those massive lasagnas that will last 8 or 9 meals 10:28 <@ware> something cheap and decent 10:28 <@I-MOD> but you get tired of lasagna after that 10:28 <@I-MOD> and they're only 10 a piece 10:29 <@ware> mmm spinach lasagna ftw 10:29 <@ware> the meatless 10:29 < Tuttle|> hot pockets? 10:29 <@ware> got some of those 10:30 <@I-MOD> corn dogs 10:30 <@I-MOD> those are cheap 10:30 <@ware> and some mini redbaron pizza things 10:30 <@I-MOD> those are pretty damn greasy 10:30 <@I-MOD> heh...you can get a pack of 24 hog dogs for around 3.5 10:30 <@I-MOD> hot dogs 10:31 <@I-MOD> that's 8+ meals depending on how much you eat 10:31 <@I-MOD> :D 10:31 < TheLightCosine> I haven't seen em down ehre but Purdue makes these awesome microwaveable chciken things that are like 5-6 bucks for a big bag? 10:32 < TheLightCosine> it's a good 2-3 meals easy 10:34 < Tuttle|> zalarans is good, they have a small frozen section, with pasta or rice meals 10:47 -!- TheLightCosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cc7343a901428ef7] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 10:53 -!- Feltenix_ is now known as Feltenix 10:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 10:56 <@ShadowHntr> wow 10:56 <@ShadowHntr> i just got a cisco catalyst 2950 switch for free 10:56 <@ShadowHntr> :D 10:57 -!- TheLightcosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ea584b305efb64bc] has joined #se2600 10:59 <@shadowmoss> ware: here is a site that has what sounds like really good dehydrated meals: http://hawkvittles.com/ 11:00 <@shadowmoss> some hikers verify that they are good 11:00 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 11:00 <@shadowmoss> not cheap though 11:00 <@shadowmoss> he says that they are 2 servings for a hungry man 11:00 <@Shadow404> so that would make 4 servings for the woman known as ware 11:01 <@shadowmoss> I was thinking 3 for me... but whatever works 11:01 <@shadowmoss> I'm thinking of getting some to eat at home and for lunch since I don't cook, and I spend that much eating out all the time 11:02 <@shadowmoss> even I can heat water 11:04 < TheLightcosine> you could make a sammich , that does not require cooking =) 11:04 <@Shadow404> shadowmoss - cooking - level 5/125 11:04 <@Shadow404> you wow nerds should get that 11:05 < TheLightcosine> *snicker* 11:06 < servant74> shadomoss ... ... 11:08 <@ShadowHntr> what you doin ware 11:09 <@rhia> according to their latest media blitz, nutrisystem (?) has all meals for <$3 11:10 <@shadowmoss> TheLightcosine: but sandwiches require fresh ingredients, which, since I'm not home much anymore I can't keep reliably 11:10 <@shadowmoss> The only reason I can keep mayonaise is cause NotLarry uses it too 11:11 <@shadowmoss> Shadow404: I CAN cook, I just DON'T 11:12 <@Shadow404> so you got 5 points 11:12 <@Shadow404> you can make tough jerky 11:12 <@Shadow404> and eggs 11:13 < TheLightcosine> haha 11:14 <@Shadow404> for some reason, a jar of mayo, a picture of NotLarry and a picture of quagmire just popped in my head linked together 11:15 <@oddball> Oh goody... apparently some drug dealer killed a guy around the corner from where my office is moving to next year. 11:16 <@Shadow404> use that in your plea for teleworking 11:16 <@Shadow404> god knows i used the recent car breakins in the parking lot to get my teleworking privleges early 11:16 <@oddball> There's an idea 11:17 <@Shadow404> sadly i had to go to work today, cause i neeed to receive some equipment for a new customer install 11:18 <@Shadow404> there was boxes on my desk, with pieces of paper on my monitors that said, do not touch, teleworking 11:18 <@nachoguy> "receive some equipment"? is that a euphemism? 11:18 < MudFlap> ware: crackpot 11:19 < MudFlap> ware: I meant crockpot. Good easy eats. 11:19 <@Shadow404> nachoguy: nah, i had routers and ohter hardware to install in the rack 11:21 -!- Gregabyte [n=wintermu@conference/asterisk/x-091c1873e1ceca0b] has joined #se2600 11:21 -!- Gregabyte [n=wintermu@conference/asterisk/x-091c1873e1ceca0b] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:24 < TheLightcosine> can someone please remind me what the hidden folder inside History is called where the index.dat file resides? 11:25 < TheLightcosine> i thoguht it was IE5.content 11:26 <@Corydon76-dig> I wasn't aware IE5 was ported to Linux or BSD 11:27 < TheLightcosine> . 11:27 < TheLightcosine> in Windows XP 11:27 < TheLightcosine> nm it was Content.IE5 not IE5.content 11:34 -!- servant74 [n=jack@68-30-175-179.area4.spcsdns.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:51 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:53 -!- servant74 [n=jack@68-30-175-179.area4.spcsdns.net] has joined #se2600 11:56 < M0j0-j0j0> I don't understand why so many people in here are using windows 11:57 < TheLightcosine> I am at work. 11:57 < M0j0-j0j0> me too 11:57 < TheLightcosine> I work in a microsoft only shop unfortunately 11:58 < M0j0-j0j0> oh, I did that for a while 11:58 < TheLightcosine> although we run Lotus Notes Domino as well as Exchange....*shudder* what a mess 11:58 < M0j0-j0j0> there are better things out their.... they won't seem like it at first, but they really are better 12:00 < TheLightcosine> heh you don't need to tell me, you need to tell the people who make decisions in my company =P 12:00 < TheLightcosine> anyways it's quittin time 12:00 < TheLightcosine> i'll be back on from home a little later, cheers 12:01 -!- TheLightcosine [i=0c1314c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ea584b305efb64bc] has quit ["mibbit.com: Read Error: 108(Peer Reset by connection)"] 12:02 -!- Curbob [n=curbob@12.51.122.34] has quit [] 12:24 -!- scort [n=s@adsl-68-89-130-182.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] has joined #se2600 12:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o scort] by ChanServ 12:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*@ware.is.a.network.dj] by scort 12:24 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by scort [scort] 12:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*@dont.you.know.blackpeoplelove.us] by scort 12:24 -!- imhere2plzu was kicked from #se2600 by scort [scort] 12:24 -!- scort [n=s@adsl-68-89-130-182.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] has left #se2600 [] 12:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*@adsl-68-89-130-182.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] by Shadow404 12:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*@ware.is.a.network.dj] by Shadow404 12:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*@dont.you.know.blackpeoplelove.us] by Shadow404 12:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: Please don't escalate 12:35 -!- imhere2plzu [n=eggdrop@dont.you.know.blackpeoplelove.us] has joined #se2600 12:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*@adsl-68-89-130-182.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] by Corydon76-dig 12:36 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: ok and you expect what he did mature? 12:36 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 12:37 <@Shadow404> he needs to have a timeout period like eveyrone else does for causing bs 12:49 <@mtown_nerd> >_> *steps over all the body parts* <_< Wow...what the hell happened in here? heh 12:53 <@critch> how far back in the scrollback is that? 12:54 <@mtown_nerd> (referring to the +b's and -b's) heh 12:54 <@Shadow404> just coil being a fucking bitch 12:56 <@mtown_nerd> Oh .... coil and scort are the same person? lol Whoops. 12:57 <@mtown_nerd> For some reason, that fact has escaped me for all this time! :x 12:57 <@Shadow404> heh 13:00 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 13:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: He was retaliating for ware's action 2 days ago that kept him banned 13:10 <@Shadow404> yeah, exactly, she hes still banned for that shit, we decided to the end of the week 13:10 <@Corydon76-dig> While I agree that the retaliation was bad, there's no point to further escalation 13:10 <@Shadow404> so sat. morning he would be allowed back in 13:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: who decided? 13:10 <@Shadow404> do i need to go into my logs? 13:11 <@Shadow404> actually crap, i haz no logs config on this host 13:11 <@Shadow404> we said to the end of the week 13:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Who? You and ware? 13:11 <@Shadow404> more than i and ware 13:11 <@Shadow404> of course if you want to go lienient, sicne you have god powers in here, go ahead 13:12 <@Shadow404> seems like that is the idea of this channel nowadays 13:12 <@Corydon76-dig> If the ban is decided by someone senior, then the ban needs to be enacted by that person, not by either you or ware 13:13 <@Shadow404> oh wow, love the wording, senior? 13:13 <@Shadow404> what is their a defined rank structure to irc now? 13:13 <@Shadow404> nice 13:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Someone who has a history of not acting rashly 13:13 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: coil HAS been pissier than usual lately ...~shrug~ 13:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Someone like rhia 13:13 <@rhia> Shadow404: um.... ? 13:14 <@Corydon76-dig> or Dolemite or SkyDog, or quite a few others 13:14 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: i don't ban, but it Was getting ridiculous .... tho the "weekend" thing seems a bit, arbitrary 13:14 <@shadowmoss> hmmm, how long has Shadow404 been on here, anyways? 13:14 -!- tcstool [i=4a27e092@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3e3d60c562239e20] has joined #se2600 13:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 13:14 <@Shadow404> shadowmoss: since we were on undernet 13:14 <@shadowmoss> vs., say, skydog, etc. 13:15 <@shadowmoss> really, I am curious 13:15 <@shadowmoss> if senior means age, then I tend to trump all of you 13:15 <@shadowmoss> except I don't know how to ban someone... 13:15 <@Shadow404> /ban 13:16 <@shadowmoss> cool... 13:16 <@Shadow404> well, thats the easiest form 13:16 * shadowmoss makes notes 13:16 <@Corydon76-dig> I'd say someone with +f on Chanserv for this channel 13:17 <@Shadow404> aka, god mode 13:17 <@Corydon76-dig> No, that's +F 13:17 <@Shadow404> and your +f cause we moved to this irc server from undernet 13:18 <@Shadow404> ho had +f on undernet? 13:18 <@Shadow404> *who 13:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Undernet doesn't have a chanserv 13:18 <@shadowmoss> hell, then I've been on here since we were on undernet, since I remember the move 13:18 <@Shadow404> which i thought was more fun in soem ways, cause there was a self governing feel to it 13:19 <@shadowmoss> I remember netsplit hell on a constant basis 13:19 <@rhia> Shadow404: um.... think Dragon and I had somewhat similar ... after the whole maverick going berserk and having to get the channel back nonsense 13:19 <@Corydon76-dig> shadowmoss: I'm primarily concerned with people who don't kickban at the drop of a hat. Banning should be a last resort, not the first thing someone tries 13:20 <@rhia> not chanserv, but stepped up and got Optyx and few others to ... assist in getting the channel back .... am SO glad that type BS is over 13:20 <@shadowmoss> Corydon76-dig: I understand the idea, but that gets problematical when folks have a long history with each other 13:20 <@Shadow404> rhia: man, that was some of the fun on not having a chanserv 13:20 <@Shadow404> there was always something new that involved creative thinking to solve 13:20 <@rhia> Shadow404: that was adolescent testicle bouncing 13:20 <@Shadow404> oh shucks 13:21 <@rhia> and DarkMan brought down a small European country, back in the day, due to that kind of machismo 13:21 <@Shadow404> but anyway, sometimes i think the new server allows this channel to be run more dictorship mode then it needs to be at times. Of course this is my personal opinon 13:21 <@shadowmoss> rhia: that sounds either run or illegal 13:21 -ChanServ:#se2600- Corydon76-dig (Corydon76-home) set flags +f on rhia. 13:21 <@Shadow404> 2600 is about self governing ideals 13:21 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: that proves nothinhg to me 13:22 <@Shadow404> absolutely nothing at all 13:22 <@Dolemite> hehehe, omg, she brought up Darkman 13:22 <@rhia> shadowmoss: was long ago, and he literally burned out 'the' router for their outside world connection ... technology & redundancy has improved tremendously since then 13:23 <@I-MOD> wow 13:23 <@rhia> Dolemite: well, yeah, we've known Dark for years, back when he ran Mafia 13:23 <@I-MOD> i bet they were pissed 13:23 -!- aestetix [i=aestetix@pinky.ratman.org] has joined #se2600 13:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o aestetix] by ChanServ 13:24 <@rhia> I-MOD: the FBI laughed like hell when they heard the story years later... "That was Him? LOLOL" so, yeah, guess someone complained somewhere... 13:24 <@Dolemite> yeah, I knew him, too 13:24 <@Dolemite> he used to come over and hang out with me and Guyver at the apartment 13:24 <@rhia> Dolemite: ..... interesting ..... individual 13:24 <@Dolemite> to say the least 13:25 <@Dolemite> he thought that he had a viable business model in setting up an IRC server that was specifically friendly to bots 13:25 <@aestetix> did I just walk into another story about goat pr0n? 13:25 <@rhia> among other things .... last i heard, he was still in his mom's basement 13:25 <@aestetix> yep 13:25 <@I-MOD> cheapest place to live :D 13:25 <@Dolemite> that it is 13:26 <@aestetix> rhia: how old? 13:26 <@Dolemite> late 30s by now, I'd say 13:26 <@aestetix> ouch 13:26 <@rhia> late 30s, or jsut 30 13:26 <@aestetix> he must have a nice mom 13:26 <@rhia> 40, rather, 13:26 <@rhia> resigned, mainly 13:27 <@aestetix> There was a guy in STL like that. He partied at raves for like 20 years, burned himself out, lives in his mom's basement at 39, has this huge collection of rave flyers and wierd dildo things 13:28 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: that sounds vaguely like you. Except the age part. 13:28 <@rhia> think of just about every hollywood stereotype of the lacking in social skills, overweight hacker still in his mom's basement and ... you still don't quite have Dark 13:28 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: that's just the image I put on to keep you interested 13:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh huh 13:29 * shadowmoss hugs aestetix 13:29 <@oddball> aaaaand there's another employee that fell for the XP anitvirus 2008 spyware/virus 13:29 <@mtown_nerd> !! 13:29 <@aestetix> rhia: reminds me of my friend's cousin. I think he just hit 31, never touched a girl, bathes once a week, and conversation always moves towards either obscure anime or computer stuff he doesn't actually understand 13:29 * aestetix hugs shadowmoss 13:29 <@mtown_nerd> zomg oddball...I've been battling that here for several weeks now.. X_X It's crazy the # of cases we've had come up. 13:29 <@tcstool> oddball: That's terrible 13:32 <@mtown_nerd> What have you been doing to get rid of it, oddball? 13:32 <@oddball> nuking the box 13:32 <@mtown_nerd> Ah.. lol 13:32 <@aestetix> He had this brilliant idea that .... basically since our brains are effetctively many little processors, that if you have a ton of processors wired together, you'll create consciousness. And he thought he was the first to come up with this idea. 13:32 <@shadowmoss> oddball: what is this virus actually called? 13:32 <@oddball> There are a couple of solutions online to get rid of it, but good luck with all the crap that it lets in. 13:32 <@mtown_nerd> I found a utility called roguefix that, in conjunction with trashing all temp/internet data on the PC and disabling system restore, works pretty well. Haven't had any repeat cases so far on the one's I've worked on. 13:32 <@tcstool> Yeah it pulls down all sorts of garbage 13:32 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah...some of the other stuff has been a bit harder to pin down... but ... 13:32 <@mtown_nerd> Like I siad... doing well so far. 13:32 <@tcstool> TrendMicro RUBotted will help with it too 13:32 <@oddball> shadowmoss: XP antivirus 2008 13:32 <@tcstool> That's just the frontend though for all the trojans and garbage it puts on your system 13:32 <@oddball> it's just easier/less time to just wipe the box clean and start over. 13:32 <@shadowmoss> we've had a different one, trend says it cathes it, but we keep finding it 13:32 <@oddball> tcstool: yep 13:32 <@tcstool> I had one the other day that had a screen saver with fake blue screens 13:33 <@tcstool> That one was pretty cool; the woman called and said her PC was blue screening so I took hardware down there to fix it, then discovered I could move the mouse and it went away 13:33 <@oddball> And the latest thing it's letting through is something that starts dropping porn all over your desktop. Great thing for a family counciling center. 13:33 <@polerin> lol 13:33 <@tcstool> Yep 13:33 <@tcstool> Seen that one too 13:34 <@aestetix> Ok. Female claims she's good with computers. Like, she used to work for Microsoft. But buys a macbook air, and then is amazed at this concept of multiple desktops. 13:34 <@aestetix> What is the proper response? 13:35 <@tcstool> Well Microsoft is a big place, I don't think everyone there is a guru...I've met a couple who used to work for them who definitely weren't 13:35 <@oddball> aestetix: if all her experience is with MS, there's a decent chance that she's never encountered such a thin 13:35 <@I-MOD> people that use windows don't generally use multiple desktops 13:35 <@oddball> er thing 13:35 * I-MOD agrees with oddball 13:35 <@aestetix> Hmm. I guess MS employees generally don't use linux. 13:35 <@polerin> heh 13:35 <@shadowmoss> aestetix: duh 13:35 <@polerin> or Litestep 13:35 <@I-MOD> i knew about multiple desktops when i was a windows junkie, but i never had used it 13:35 <@shadowmoss> ok, back to work... 13:35 <@polerin> or bb4win 13:35 <@tcstool> But boy are they brainwashed against Linux 13:35 <@ShadowHntr> nomachine.com 13:36 <@ShadowHntr> NX FTW 13:36 <@ShadowHntr> :) 13:36 <@aestetix> Or fluxbox 13:36 <@tzanger> NX *rocks* 13:36 * aestetix hasn't used NX 13:36 <@tcstool> NX is definitely nice 13:36 <@tzanger> I want an NX client on iphone 13:37 <@tzanger> they (NX) say they are setting up a web client that uses a PC as a proxy to NX, but I don't know how well that'ld work 13:37 <@tzanger> I love exporting just one application (kopete) and having it always avaiable from anywhere 13:38 <@tcstool> That's the one drawback, NX tends to be picky about how you hook up to it 13:38 <@critch> do you use when kill -9 doesn't kill an app? 13:38 <@aestetix> ok 13:38 <@aestetix> so I can forgive the multiple desktops 13:38 <@aestetix> but a macbook air?!?! 13:38 <@Shadow404> mac? 13:38 <@aestetix> I have no issue with macs 13:39 <@Shadow404> i do 13:39 <@critch> argghh slow machine, what do you use when kill -9 doesn't kill a process 13:39 <@tcstool> reboot? 13:39 <@aestetix> The air is specifically designed for vapid college kids who think web browsing is an advanced activity 13:39 <@aestetix> that and soccer moms 13:39 <@tcstool> hell yes it is 13:40 <@tcstool> I like the way you put that 13:40 <@Shadow404> mac is made for people looking for a clique and like spending, er wasting their money 13:40 <@tzanger> acutally I wouldn't mind an air 13:40 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: if 'kill -9' doesn't work, it's a sign that the frozen process is stuck within a kernel call 13:40 <@tzanger> too bad it doesn't fold back on itself and you have an ultrathin tablet 13:40 <@aestetix> tzanger: that would be hot 13:40 <@critch> ahh, just had to wait a while longer it looks like 13:40 <@aestetix> I'll admit, having such a thin laptop is cool as shit 13:40 <@Shadow404> the one exception is people that actually use mac for media production 13:41 <@aestetix> but to make it that thin, you remove all useful functionality 13:41 <@aestetix> except the fashion part 13:41 <@Shadow404> external drives for the win 13:41 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: or that the kernel is swapping 13:41 -!- TheLightCosine [n=c0malod@c-67-177-170-29.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:41 <@tcstool> I read something where people were having performance issues with them because of heat 13:41 <@tzanger> I do not use a cdrom/dvd for any significant percentage of my laptop use 13:41 <@Shadow404> oh wow, i have a laptop that can fit in my handbag, but if i want to load a cd, damn, gotta carry and disc drive as well 13:41 <@aestetix> tcstool: yep 13:41 <@aestetix> heat distribution in it is nonexistent 13:42 <@aestetix> apparently it's too thin for a proper fan 13:42 <@tzanger> I have a toshiba U300 now... has everything I need except for inbuilt 3G card and serial port 13:42 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: yeah, I was memory bombing myself unintentionally. Tried openeing a 1.5g file with bvi, didn't realize it would read the whole file into ram. 13:42 <@aestetix> I wonder if in a year we'll be seeing cracked cases like we did with the apple cube 13:42 <@tzanger> but it's nice, I am really happy with it for the most part 13:42 <@aestetix> I'm using a thinkpad t60 13:42 <@aestetix> it's perfect for what I need 13:42 <@tcstool> how do you like it? We're an IBM reseller and I was thinking about getting one using our discount 13:43 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: vi doesn't usually load all into memory, but rather copy the entire file to a dotfile 13:43 <@aestetix> Thinkpads are fucking awesome. 13:43 <@aestetix> Everything is modular. Even the fucking processor. 13:43 <@tcstool> Yeah 13:43 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: bvi wasn't a typo 13:43 <@aestetix> They are well designed. Easy to take apart. 13:43 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: it is a binary editor with vi like ui 13:44 <@tcstool> We have several here, but they're the models where the T stands for "tank" or "tons" 13:44 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: is it a derivative? 13:44 <@aestetix> hahaha 13:44 <@aestetix> From what I hear, the R series is awesome too. 13:44 <@critch> I don't know of it's lineage 13:44 <@aestetix> Basically, I will never use anything besides a thinkpad. 13:44 <@aestetix> They are just too good. 13:44 <@aestetix> Well, ok technically I guess lenovo 13:45 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: doesn't look like it 13:45 <@aestetix> Although I'm debating getting a macbook, just to be able to code on a mac 13:46 <@tzanger> the T60 I had was *awesome* loved it 13:46 <@tcstool> Not interested in trying the hacked up OS X images that run on a PC? 13:47 <@tzanger> this is a 13.3" though, I am glad I have the smaller laptop 13:47 <@tzanger> I would even consider a smaller one with same res 13:47 <@tzanger> best buy had a 12" 1280x768 13:48 <@aestetix> I guess I could. 13:48 <@aestetix> Although I also think macs are pretty :p 13:48 <@tcstool> Well you're comparing it to a Thinkpad :-p 13:49 < TheLightCosine> heh if i was buying a laptop based on looks i'd personally go buy an alienware 13:49 -!- nachoguy [i=boster@ivan.dreamhost.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:49 <@aestetix> No, the point is to get a system because I'll eventually be coding some modules for it. 13:50 <@aestetix> Being pretty is a nice side bonus. 13:50 <@aestetix> You know. Kinda like when I finish fucking your mom, and at the end I look at her boobs, and say "wow, those are pretty" 13:50 <@I-MOD> i don't need pretty in my products 13:50 <@I-MOD> i need them to work like they're supposed to :D 13:50 < TheLightCosine> is coding for os x horribly different from bsd? 13:51 <@aestetix> I haven't coded for either, so I dunno. 13:51 < TheLightCosine> ah 13:51 <@shadowmoss> I finally looked at the new eeepc, the 1000 13:51 <@shadowmoss> looks a lot like my Dell D430, with similar specs, but maybe cheaper 13:52 <@shadowmoss> course, I got a (separate) DVD drive with mine that doesn't come with the eeepc 1000 13:52 <@shadowmoss> it supposedly gets 7.5-8 hrs on battery, though 13:53 < TheLightCosine> wow 13:53 < TheLightCosine> hmm time to go make a sammich 13:53 <@shadowmoss> ebay was where I found them for sale, resellers, not individuals 13:53 < mrtsunami> sudo make you a sandwich? 13:53 <@tzanger> heh 13:55 <@aestetix> Worst part about writing code for HOPE: having to take out the error messages making fun of John Draper, because he was actually using the system. 13:56 <@I-MOD> lol 14:11 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 14:17 <@Corydon76-dig> "No, we're only going to fix sending plaintext passwords in the clear over the network, after we're already compromised, so a potential intrusion is that much more serious." 14:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Yay, centralized password system. 14:18 <@SkyDog_> morning all. :) 14:20 <@Dolemite> w00f 14:21 <@SkyDog_> W00f! 14:21 <@Dolemite> Let me know the next time you're going to head down this way. K-Mac wants to get assured for CACert. 14:22 <@SkyDog_> Cool. 14:22 <@SkyDog_> Not today. I am a litle far away. 14:22 <@Dolemite> Well, yeah... 14:23 <@ShadowHntr> heh 14:23 <@ShadowHntr> :P 14:23 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: who? 14:23 <@Dolemite> someone here at the office 14:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: btw, have you gotten the MythTV box yet? 14:24 <@Dolemite> no, I asked SkyDog about that the other day 14:24 <@SkyDog_> we didn't go by there. 14:24 <@ShadowHntr> Dolemite: sorry about loitering in the its help desk the other day - it was kinda irregular, both ways. 14:24 < TheLightCosine> grrr 14:25 < TheLightCosine> did anyone else read the article about the cop shooting that woman's dog? 14:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: if you stop by on Saturday, we'll be there. 14:25 <@Dolemite> I have another late nighter in the data center on Sunday, so I'll be sleeping most of Saturday 14:26 <@Dolemite> unless you'll still be there around 10 PM on Saturday? :) 14:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Possibly, but unlikely 14:28 <@Corydon76-dig> I'll run it by the NOC on Saturday 14:28 <@Dolemite> ok, that'll work 14:28 <@Dolemite> NotLarry will be working after noon 14:28 < TheLightCosine> heh, all of you guys work together hunh? 14:29 <@Dolemite> A few of us do 14:29 <@Dolemite> Dagmar and NotLarry work for me. Mirage used to. Skydog works on the same campus. 14:30 <@Dolemite> Actually, Mirage used to work for me and then he got promoted to another group, so he's still here. 14:30 < TheLightCosine> cool, must be a pretty tech place with all of you guys there 14:30 <@Dolemite> Oddball used to work for me, too, but then left to pursue the ability to be awake during the day. 14:30 < TheLightCosine> most of the people i work with, even in the other departments, are just 9-5ers 14:31 < TheLightCosine> they just see IT as a living 14:31 < TheLightCosine> most of the people on the UK side with me are just looking to get back to a day schedule of some sort 14:33 < TheLightCosine> so is that sort of how this group got started, all of you guys workin together? 14:34 <@critch> nope, all of them working together ended up because of this group 14:34 <@critch> and not all of us work together 14:34 < TheLightCosine> oh 14:34 < TheLightCosine> well i figured not everybody did 14:36 <@Dolemite> Where do you work? 14:36 < TheLightCosine> sorry, i dun mean to be a bug. like i've said before we just moved here, i've got the stereotypical big fish small pond to small fish in a big pond thing going on. trying to find my footing 14:36 <@Dolemite> you're fine 14:36 <@SkyDog_> it's all good. 14:37 < TheLightCosine> I work for Willis Consulting Group 14:37 < TheLightCosine> it's the third largest Insurance Brokerage in the world, or so I'm told 14:38 <@Dolemite> url? 14:38 < TheLightCosine> really it's more like a wierd congolmeration of insurance companies 14:38 < TheLightCosine> www.willis.com 14:38 <@SkyDog_> ok, it 14:38 < TheLightCosine> *conglomeration 14:38 <@SkyDog_> ok, it's time to hit the riv and see what's going on... 14:39 <@shadowmoss> hehe, I used to work for IT at Willis, long time ago 14:39 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Go eat at Red Rocks Casino for me one night. 14:40 < TheLightCosine> shadow:really? doing what? 14:42 <@Dolemite> or actually, I think tonight is T-Bone 14:42 <@Dolemite> er, T-Bone Steak on the buffet @ Main Street Station night 14:42 * Dolemite *hearts* him some Las Vegas 14:43 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 14:58 * Dolemite yiffs on aestetix 15:03 < M0j0-j0j0> everytime I've been their I've noted 2 things 15:03 < M0j0-j0j0> they hate people from Comdex 15:04 < M0j0-j0j0> and everyone that lives there has a gambling issue 15:06 < M0j0-j0j0> had fun all the same.. but I'm not a gambler so it was mostly watching shows that I wouldn't be watching if their was anything better to do 15:07 -!- tcstool [i=4a27e092@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3e3d60c562239e20] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 15:15 -!- aestetix_ [n=aestetix@66.11.117.140] has joined #se2600 15:23 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: worked Comdex, completely understand why Vegas peeps hate it 15:27 <@rhia> of all the conventions, they spend the least and demand the most ... and Comdex wonders why they aren't well liked ... pfft 15:27 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PsnxDQvQpw 15:27 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: I understand... but I used to live in Daytona Beach and we had to deal with something like Comdex almost every week of the year and we didn't get bitter about it 15:27 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: Daytona sees in a year (aside from spring break) what Vegas sees in a month.... or even a week, sometimes 15:27 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: the Daytona 500? Bike Week? 15:27 <@rhia> i don't gamble either, last time in Vegas, i spent 50 cent on the machines, and my boss handed that to me ... 15:27 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: Vegas 15:27 <@rhia> it' 15:27 <@rhia> s 15:27 <@rhia> sigh 15:27 <@rhia> it's Vegas, Baby .... the shiitz they deal with is almost surreal 15:27 <@rhia> but yeah, Daytona, Miami, Orlando and Dictator Mouse, FL sees a lot.... but compared to Vegas it's still small change 15:27 < M0j0-j0j0> no doubt, but I bet Daytona is in the same bracket 15:28 <@rhia> it' 15:28 * rhia moves a cat 15:28 < M0j0-j0j0> whatever 15:29 <@rhia> it's the difference between being rich and being wealthy .... both gots more money than they know what to do with, but the wealthy won't miss 100 million, the rich will 15:29 <@tzanger> heh who was that 15:29 <@tzanger> "we don't got no wealthy black people. We got rich black people. Shaq ain't wealthy, he's rich. The guy who signs his checks, he's wealthy." 15:30 <@rhia> tzanger: heh, about that, yeah 15:30 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: and Vegas is a shadow of Monte Carlo 15:31 < M0j0-j0j0> but the people in Daytona work around it and the people in Vegas just bitch about it and mistreat people 15:31 < M0j0-j0j0> I would bitch about race fans, but not to the race fans 15:31 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: i didn't get that, esp when i told them i was Working Comdex, not 'shopping' there 15:32 <@rhia> once i said i was working, all kinds of comps and camaraderie appeared 15:33 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: everyone I ran into was like "I hate all you Comdex people" to my face... which.. rather I was one of "those" people or not isn't very nice. 15:33 <@rhia> i had a 100 a day per diem, outside of room, company paid me back 600 for what i didn't spend when i was there for the week 15:33 -!- ware [i=w@ware.is.a.network.dj] has joined #se2600 15:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by ChanServ 15:33 <@ware> fuckin asshat 15:34 < M0j0-j0j0> and I'm really not one of "those" people... I have traveled enough to not be a pain in the ass to people 15:34 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: deal.... retail sux, no matter where you live ... and if the reason you're there causes more problems than anything else Vegas sees ... perhaps there is a damn good reason for the attitude 15:34 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: that sucks 15:35 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: sux? i got comped so much my company paid me for what i didn't spend .... 15:35 <@rhia> and i did not go hungry or bored for the whole week 15:36 <@rhia> .... maybe i should have said retail and service industries.... whatever 15:36 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: i met the same initial attitude... i got comped for it, you got bitter.... 15:37 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: we had a timeshare and I'm guessing that we each burned up a couple of hundred a day on "team building" 15:37 < M0j0-j0j0> which was mostly drinking 15:37 < M0j0-j0j0> except for my boss who was too busy being high 15:38 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: ahh, well, my company paid for the "team building" stuff, including dinner at the Isis room (five star) 15:38 < M0j0-j0j0> it was an odd company, but not a cheap one.... well... until you needed hardware 15:39 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: yeah, but we team built alone a lot :) 15:39 <@rhia> just one night, but still.... and they were a small to tiny company... maybe the issue isn't the poor working slobs of Vegas 15:39 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: hehe 15:40 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 15:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 15:40 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: well, the company I was with for those years went out of business due to overspending 15:41 <@rhia> still, i don't begrudge Vegas peeps for openly disliking Comdex.... however, they seem to like the money from DefCon ... DefCon people aren't obnoxious cheapskates 15:41 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: my boss was crazy and fought with people... He shot at a guy once... and for a short time the company was a front for a drug operation... maybe longer than I knew 15:42 <@rhia> so, maybe it's that company that caused the attitude and not the Vegas people? 15:42 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: everyone was sleeping with everyone... it was... less stable 15:42 <@rhia> heh 15:43 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: sounds like a good time, to me 15:43 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: no, it was a bunch of really cool cats... but you have to know when to say "I didn't see anything" 15:43 <@rhia> btw, i don't like Vegas, but it's not the working people, it's the heat, the overdone falsity, the overdone tourism, ... the whole Vegas-ness of it all 15:44 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: story of my life, if i didn't know when to go blind, i wouldn't be talking now 15:45 <@rhia> back in my dumber, younger days, i ..... well..... i learned what choices not to make by making a lot of wrong ones - once 15:45 <@rhia> 15:46 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: you and me both... that was my second job and the second job that ended up having something really shady going on 15:46 <@rhia> sons can attest that having a mom that was worse than most of what they even considered wasn't fun... lol 15:47 <@rhia> but youngest bested me, i never thought of car surfing ... sigh 15:48 <@rhia> still, so, Vegas drones bitch openly about Comdex, considering what they deal with daily, ... i say they've earned the privilege ~shrug~ 15:49 <@rhia> the "smelly, white tee shirt, cheap ass, loud, ludicrous, demanding, obnoxious bastards" was one of the better terms i heard about Comdex attendees 15:50 <@rhia> after working it, i'd say that was pretty accurate 15:51 <@rhia> and i only worked it a week... they see it time after time after time .... when i heard Comdex was failing, my initial reaction was "GOOD!" 15:52 * rhia fades back in the woodwork 15:52 <@ware> noooooooooooooooo 15:55 <@Dolemite> I used to love Vegas for the strip. Now when my wife and I go there, we avoid the strip, except for the buffets where we have coupons. There's a lot that can be enjoyed about Vegas without being fake. 15:55 <@ware> wrong 15:55 <@Dolemite> Red Rocks is my favorite - it's theme is not some European city, it's simply the red rock of Nevada and Utah. It's very Southwestern. 15:55 <@ware> booze, tits, and gambling 15:56 <@Dolemite> s/it's/its/ 15:56 <@ware> tits! 15:57 <@Dolemite> Tunica is like that, too. The casinos there aren't themed for an area, they're simply really nice hotels. 15:59 <@Dolemite> ok, time to escape! 16:00 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: no kids... that I know of.... and the things we did never seemed to be so "bad" at the time.. since it was my entire group we suffered from a slow escalation to the point that people started getting incarcerated and the DoD started to consider us a problem. 16:01 <@ware> !!!DOD!!! KEYWORD 16:01 <@mtown_nerd> :o 16:01 <@mtown_nerd> You guys are so cool. *sighs* :( 16:02 < M0j0-j0j0> yeah.. that was what clued me in that maybe things we did had a much larger effect than amusing me for the evening 16:02 < M0j0-j0j0> mtown_nerd: no, trust me.. the entire thing was stupid 16:02 < M0j0-j0j0> stupid != cool 16:02 <@mtown_nerd> haha 16:03 < M0j0-j0j0> stupid == entertaining 16:03 <@mtown_nerd> I guess. 16:03 <@mtown_nerd> I wish I could do stuff to get the DoD's attention. lol 16:03 <@shadowmoss> cool, there's a casino where I'm headed for the next 3 weeks 16:03 * shadowmoss counts out her money 16:03 <@mtown_nerd> hooray, yummy buffets and nice hotels! 16:04 <@shadowmoss> yeah, I just checked out the buffet list 16:05 < M0j0-j0j0> mtown_nerd: go on a bender that involves drug trafficing, gta, b&e, and forging a chemist license to get agent orange... I assure you it's not that hard 16:05 <@ware> b&e 16:05 <@ware> agent orange? 16:05 <@ware> WTF 16:06 <@ware> S&M with agent black 16:06 <@ware> cmon 16:06 * M0j0-j0j0 used to have anger issues 16:06 * M0j0-j0j0 has it under control 16:06 * ware pees on M0j0-j0j0 16:06 <@ware> nowwut 16:06 <@ware> rofl 16:06 < M0j0-j0j0> ware: Obey your master 16:07 <@ware> Dolemite? 16:07 <+MxZBot> dolemite is the dictator! 16:07 <@mtown_nerd> rofl @ ware 16:07 <@mtown_nerd> Anything of particular note on the buffet list, shadowmoss? 16:07 < M0j0-j0j0> shadowmoss: avoid the oysters 16:07 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@75.143.159.0] has joined #se2600 16:08 < M0j0-j0j0> oysters on a buffet are always a bad thing 16:08 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@75.143.159.0] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 16:08 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: my kids are older than some of the folks in here ... yes 16:09 * rhia is a dinosaur 16:09 <@rhia> ... T-Rex, probably, hehe 16:09 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: I'm still young at heart 16:09 <@ware> <- 23 in 2 weeks! 16:10 <@ware> i expect birthday presents from all of you 16:10 <@mtown_nerd> haha 16:10 <@mtown_nerd> Wait 16:10 <@mtown_nerd> When's your bday, ware? 16:10 * M0j0-j0j0 has shit stains older than ware. 16:10 <@mtown_nerd> What day? 16:10 <@ware> 27 16:10 <@ware> th 16:10 <@mtown_nerd> zomg for real 16:10 <@mtown_nerd> Mine's the 24th! :D 16:10 <@ware> plz dun steel mah identy 16:10 <@mtown_nerd> <--25 :( 16:10 <@ware> timoguin's is the 26th 16:10 <@mtown_nerd> zomgzomgzomg 16:10 <@mtown_nerd> We should totally have, like, an internet party 16:11 <@ware> yah inorite we need 2 more 16:11 <@mtown_nerd> with i-cake 16:11 <@mtown_nerd> and i-balloons 16:11 <@ware> strippers! 16:11 <@mtown_nerd> yay! 16:11 <@ware> rofl 16:11 <@mtown_nerd> But not the booby kind 16:11 <@mtown_nerd> penis, thx 16:11 <@ware> whaaaa 16:11 <@ware> are you a fruit 16:11 <@mtown_nerd> yarp 16:11 <@ware> or a chick? 16:11 <@ware> *headdesks* 16:11 <@mtown_nerd> haha 16:11 <@mtown_nerd> awww 16:11 <@mtown_nerd> <3 16:11 <@ware> i will have no meatspins at my party 16:11 <@ware> !!11 16:12 <@mtown_nerd> It's OKAY...booby strippers is fine, I guess! I'll just be the only one, y'know, TALKING to them. lol 16:12 <@rhia> Aug 27? damn, same as one of my exes ... thou art EVIL 16:12 <@ware> ill be talkin to em 16:12 <@ware> hell, ill be yelling at em 16:12 <@mtown_nerd> haha 16:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Both kinds 16:12 <@ware> and throwing money at em 16:12 <@ware> rhia: :P thought you knew this already 16:12 <@Corydon76-dig> mtown_nerd: ware strips when he's drunk 16:12 <@mtown_nerd> My one goal in all my gym-going is to get to the point where I can comfortably offer myself as one of those male strippers that people eat sushi off of. 16:13 <@rhia> ware: like i pay attention to your personal stuff ... off the radar, kiddo 16:13 -!- Feltenix [n=Tanstaaf@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:13 * Corydon76-dig eats sushi off of mtown_nerd 16:14 <@mtown_nerd> awww... u has robed me uf mah goles!1 :[ 16:14 < M0j0-j0j0> mtown_nerd: that's completely gross... the fish isn't cooked ;) 16:14 <@mtown_nerd> hah 16:14 <@mtown_nerd> No...they could be cooked rolls 16:14 <@ware> rhia: my birthdate is pretty personal 16:14 <@mtown_nerd> That's fine 16:14 <@rhia> ware: you're a couple months older than my youngest 16:14 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: that's why sushi is so fun to eat 16:14 <@mtown_nerd> hehe 16:15 <@mtown_nerd> But I figure one day I'll be all hot and muscley, and people will be like "Mmmm sushi from your washboard abs and amazing quads!" 16:15 * M0j0-j0j0 doesn't regularly eat sushi. 16:15 <@mtown_nerd> But...*sigh*...it is a ways off, yet. -_- 16:15 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: fish is good to eat on a regular basis 16:16 <@mtown_nerd> Yes. So long as it's not filled with the cancers 16:16 < M0j0-j0j0> and mercury 16:16 <@rhia> raw fish is .... raw fish ... and nearly tasteless .... like eating wet shredded tofu, but with the chance of all kinds of raw food issues ... bleh 16:16 <@Corydon76-dig> It would be a blessing to live long enough for mercurial poisoning to be a problem, from eating fish 16:16 < M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: not a big fan of the seafood 16:17 <@Corydon76-dig> M0j0-j0j0: I read enough to realize that I don't eat healthy enough to live long and prosper 16:17 <@mtown_nerd> haha 16:18 <@Corydon76-dig> 32, and my body is already falling to pieces 16:18 < M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: with the state the environment is in these days... I'm take my chances with some McChemisty every now and then.. but everything has to be cooked 16:18 <@mtown_nerd> On the whole, I have the willpower of a small jar of mayonaise... so, while my eating habits are generally *much* healthier than the guy's next to me, it's hardly what more hardcore fitness people would consider "good." heh 16:19 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: the mercury issues affect the brain first.. blessing to go stupid for years, then get paralyzed before dying? 16:19 <@mtown_nerd> But I do like sushi. Only introduced to it within the last, like, year. :x 16:19 <@Corydon76-dig> mtown_nerd: I'd need to eat 3-4 servings of fish a week... 16:19 <@rhia> not my idea of "blessing" 16:19 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: like I said, the rest of my body is going to fall apart before enough mercury accumulates to cause brain issues 16:20 < M0j0-j0j0> at some point you guys are going to make to be do the math to figure out how old I am.... I've held together well given all I've seen.. I'm fat... but I workout about 6 days a week 16:20 <@rhia> but it's not the mercury that keeps me from raw fish, i've had sushi numerous times.... not impressed 16:20 <@rhia> edible, but not noteworthy 16:20 <@mtown_nerd> I prefer the cooked rolls, honestly....some of the more exotic ones can be really tasty 16:20 <@rhia> like tofu lasagne ... done that, not for me 16:20 <@ware> rhia: youngest daughter? 16:21 <@mtown_nerd> A place here in Memphis, Do restaurant, has one that has cream cheast, almond, and slices of strawberries, and stuff on rolls of cooked fish. mmmm :) 16:24 <@rhia> ware: LOL ... pay attention, kidling, i say "sons" both have testicles 16:24 <@Corydon76-dig> You need to watch your intake of cream cheese 16:24 <@ware> lame :( 16:24 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: "edible, but not noteworthy" should be on a shirt with a little line drawing of sushi 16:24 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: heh 16:24 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: but you're in luck, 'cuz one of them is bi... 16:24 <@rhia> ware: that you consider it lame just kinda makes it all the more cool 16:24 <@ware> yes, cause anything i think is cool is lame 16:24 <@mtown_nerd> yay, (bi + testicles)^legal 16:24 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: not for ware, he's bi for bears 16:24 <@ware> !@#)(%$_@)~!#R$JF(_!@$ tg 16:24 <@ware> ##gay 16:24 <@mtown_nerd> haha 16:24 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: oh? 16:24 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: yeah... which ... i can't stand bears, but, whatever floats his boat 16:24 * Corydon76-dig is not fuzzy. :-( 16:24 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: that means he's safe from you, hehehe 16:24 <@mtown_nerd> PFft... I like not being overly fuzzy. :)O 16:24 <@rhia> i was always more attracted to the scientist/geek .... not the jock/bear/Conan type 16:24 <@Corydon76-dig> mtown_nerd: I generally like not being fuzzy, unless I'm cold, or a cute guy is only into bears... 16:24 <@mtown_nerd> haha 16:25 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: honestly, i'd rather he be into you than the girl he's hooked on .... gah 16:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Not being fuzzy rocks when it's hot, though 16:25 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: eh, distance makes him inaccessible 16:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Same reason I don't go for celebrities 16:26 <@rhia> latest of his fancies is 5'8, 380 pounds of worthless, travel park wannabe trash idiocy ... WTH? 16:26 <@mtown_nerd> D: 16:26 <@mtown_nerd> lol 16:26 <@mtown_nerd> woooooow 16:26 * mtown_nerd hands rhia a pipe. 16:26 < M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: nothing wrong with being fuzzy in the weather 16:26 <@ware> uh who is this? 16:26 <@rhia> she's a real winner 16:26 <@ware> your son? 16:27 <@rhia> ware: my youngest, sigh, yeah 16:27 < M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: they have this cool stuff called body spray :) 16:27 <@ware> ahh 16:27 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you need to pay attention 16:27 <@mtown_nerd> How old is your youngest, rhia? 16:27 <@rhia> she LOVES him 16:27 <@Neoteric> rhia: is she hot? 16:27 <@rhia> mtown_nerd: same age as ware 16:27 * Neoteric runs 16:27 <@ware> Corydon76-dig: i dont like your homoerotic spam most of the time 16:27 <@rhia> Neoteric: LOLOL 16:27 <@mtown_nerd> Ah...k. 16:27 <@mtown_nerd> Neoteric: If you define 5'8" @ 380lb "hot," then... I think that's exactly what she was saying, yes. 16:28 <@mtown_nerd> Wait... >_> rhia = mom or dad? 16:28 <@mtown_nerd> I don't wanna' mis-speak. lol 16:28 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: don't knock it till you've tried it 16:28 <@rhia> she thinks she is, he thinks she is, i think she needs a diet, a lot of facial plastic surgery (which i hate)a personality, and a three digit IQ 16:28 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia=mom 16:28 <@ware> Corydon76-dig: yes thats perfect logic 16:28 <@ware> let me go jump off a bridge 16:28 <@rhia> but, who can pick their kids mates? 16:28 <@ware> err well ive done that 16:28 <@ware> let me go jump out of an airplane with no chute 16:29 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: my point 16:29 <@ware> cause ive never done that before 16:29 <@Neoteric> wow an orca pussy 16:29 <@mtown_nerd> <_< 16:29 <@mtown_nerd> lol 16:29 <@mtown_nerd> Don't you DARE bring Orcas into this!!! >:E 16:29 <@ware> {{{{{ W H A L I N }}}}} 16:29 <@rhia> Neoteric: .... um, yeah .... now that you mention it, lol 16:29 <@mtown_nerd> I <3 Orca 16:29 < M0j0-j0j0> whatever.. 16:30 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: let him get some chubby 16:30 <@mtown_nerd> noooes...they're now labeled as killers AND as ugly, short, fat women. T_T 16:30 < M0j0-j0j0> ware: bears eat most humans, but they don't like you so leave them alone 16:31 < M0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: Nobody should eat fish... if it was good for us it would be on land like cows 16:31 <@rhia> eh, if it were Just the weight, whatever, but this chick is... STUPID, makes white trash look like PhDs 16:31 < M0j0-j0j0> Neoteric: whatever rocks your world 16:31 <@Evilpig> who has merlin's number? it was on my phone that died 16:31 <@ware> <- 16:31 <@ware> $5 paypal 16:31 <@ware> im cheap 16:31 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: np, but i draw the line on idiocy 16:33 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: it's the trend of the future: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ 16:33 <@rhia> chubby, hey, as long as he can breathe and keep it up, that's his bag.... idiocy? .. c'mon, get someone with an IQ over 100, for the sake of the species 16:34 <@mtown_nerd> I had 125 in 5th grade... it's probably, like, 80 now, after all the vidjyar gaems and intarweb and flamin' hot cheeto's. :/ 16:40 < mrtsunami> damn them flamin' hot cheeto's 16:48 < M0j0-j0j0> I've done a lot of drugs in my life... and i think at this point my IQ might have bounced back from most of that, but I can't go back and unsay some of the stupid that came out of my mouth when I was frequently chemically friendly 16:51 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: i take your drug use and raise it ..... in spades 16:52 < M0j0-j0j0> no doubt 16:52 <@rhia> plus running, dealing, .... then, i grew up .... and jails became too real, ... 16:53 <@rhia> but, damn, the money Was nice .... but not worth the paranoia 16:53 < M0j0-j0j0> well, when you're a 20somthing you don't really have anything that is a life building asset so jail isn't so bad 16:54 <@rhia> eh, yeah ... but i'm 40 something now, and have seen the inside of those bars .... been there, done that 16:55 <@rhia> not really interested in making that a retirement plan, thankyouverymuch 16:55 < M0j0-j0j0> rhia: yeah, once I had something to lose i had to take a good look at what I was doing and stop a few things 16:56 <@rhia> a few? heh, i stopped a whole lifestyle, but, yeah... understood 16:56 < M0j0-j0j0> I still do some things that I say I've stopped... but don't we all 16:56 <@rhia> M0j0-j0j0: can you go PM? 16:57 < M0j0-j0j0> nope 16:57 < M0j0-j0j0> don't know how 16:58 <@rhia> your problem, not mine 17:15 -!- dc0de [i=dc0de@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #se2600 17:18 < dc0de> in vegas!!! 17:18 < dc0de> on the blackberry 17:19 < M0j0-j0j0> thumb 17:19 < M0j0-j0j0> cramp 17:22 < dc0de> theres a problem w/the human badges @ defcon, and theyre giving out temps for now 17:22 < M0j0-j0j0> are you sure the problem is with the badges? 17:23 < M0j0-j0j0> maybe the badges are fine and there are just no humans 17:26 <@rhia> Vegas, baby who's human? 17:30 * M0j0-j0j0 looks around 17:30 < M0j0-j0j0> I know which side of Occam's Razor I'm on 17:32 <@rhia> ride the blade 17:32 < M0j0-j0j0> god is in the way of doing that 17:33 < M0j0-j0j0> and all this white powder 17:33 <@rhia> god? who is this of you speak? 17:33 < M0j0-j0j0> must be snowing 17:34 <@rhia> white powder is only legal on ski slopes 17:34 <@rhia> what is this "god" you speak of? 17:34 <@ware> thought that she was the white powder? 17:35 -!- mtown_ner1 [n=JHester@jhester.net] has joined #se2600 17:36 < M0j0-j0j0> "god" is all that's left of the alphabet soup I had for lunch 17:36 < M0j0-j0j0> ... oh.. it's a 'dog' now 17:36 < M0j0-j0j0> I get so confused 17:38 < M0j0-j0j0> Pagans do it better everywhere. 17:38 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:46 <@ware> blah 17:46 * ware starts the weekend off right and goes for a run in the 90F 17:46 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@jhester.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:52 -!- Feltenix [n=Tanstaaf@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 17:52 <@ware> quit [Ping timeout] 17:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 17:53 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-169.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 17:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 17:54 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@rrcs-70-62-123-52.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit ["m0j0-out!"] 18:06 * TheLightCosine sighs longingly at the DEFcon people 18:06 < TheLightCosine> next year... 18:08 -!- freakn [i=freakn@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #se2600 18:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o freakn] by ChanServ 18:11 -!- freakn_ [i=freakn@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #se2600 18:17 -!- mtown_ner1 is now known as mtown_nerd 18:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mtown_nerd] by ChanServ 18:22 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-169.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:29 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:38 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:43 <@ware> anything been released yet? 18:47 <@ware> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/08/kaminskys-grand.html 18:47 <@ware> besides the session cookies oday 18:49 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 18:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 18:49 -!- mtown_ner1 [n=JHester@fileserver.ghruaim.net] has joined #se2600 18:51 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@dsl092-160-052.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #se2600 18:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 19:02 -!- Godstrong [i=Godstron@24-183-213-128.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 19:05 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@jhester.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:09 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.135.22] has joined #se2600 19:10 < TheLightCosine> ware: you're not at defcon? 19:10 <@wizardpc> ware is broke 19:10 <@wizardpc> like me 19:10 < TheLightCosine> and me 19:10 < TheLightCosine> =) 19:11 <@Dagmar> Best WoW forum sig evar: "Tauren females are fine. L2FAP" 19:11 < TheLightCosine> greets dagmar 19:11 <@Dagmar> heya 19:11 < TheLightCosine> that pdf you linked me too ironically had a hotspot map for the city i was born in lol 19:12 <@wizardpc> Dagmar: do you know about ssh over ssl? 19:12 <@Dagmar> Seems a bit redundant 19:12 <@Dagmar> Fill-in for people unfamiliar with what tauren are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEKWkIrIt_E 19:12 <@wizardpc> something about beating stateful packet inspection 19:13 -!- warrendubz [n=jonathan@c-68-52-67-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:13 <@Dagmar> Yeah, if you use an SSL tunner. 19:13 <@Dagmar> er tunnel. 19:13 <@Dagmar> DPI or not, they're not seeing inside the ssl tunnel. 19:13 <@wizardpc> thought maybe you'd set it up before 19:14 <@wizardpc> tutorials are saying I need a 3rd party app to do the tunnel 19:14 <@wizardpc> proxytunnel 19:15 <@Dagmar> Just about anything that will wrapper a socket connection in SSL will do 19:16 <@wizardpc> okay so its not like a checkbox in putty i'm missing :D 19:16 <@Dagmar> Oh no definitely not 19:16 < warrendubz> is webmin a group setup to help tunnel easier? 19:17 <@wizardpc> just making sure I'm not trying to make it more complicated than it needs to be 19:17 < warrendubz> err group = good 19:19 < warrendubz> did i jump in on the wrong convo? 19:23 <@wizardpc> nah just at the tail end 19:27 <@wizardpc> oh but you did say just enough to nudge me in a REALLY good diretion 19:32 < warrendubz> there is a project out there called sslexplorer i think it is on sourceforge, i used it awhile ago it allows for you to tunnel a lot of stuff through 443 19:32 <@ware> yeah get stunnel 19:33 <@ware> then do ssh thru the ports you define 19:33 <@wizardpc> im looking at stunnel right now 19:33 <@wizardpc> I wanna set up rsync and have my work laptop backup to my home server 19:34 <@ware> do it over a vpn connection 19:34 <@ware> or stunnel out over 443 and setup your home box to listen for it on 443 19:35 <@wizardpc> methinks im gonna do the second option 19:35 < warrendubz> easy setup for a vpn would be something like untangle gateway which is free 19:36 <@ware> untangle or pfsense w/openvpn package 19:36 <@wizardpc> dont wanna go the VPN route because that will disconnect me from the local network 19:37 <@wizardpc> which has the potential of causing bad things to happen 19:37 < warrendubz> the sslexplorer project would be worth looking into for you then 19:37 <@Dagmar> Not all VPNs are mandatory 19:37 < warrendubz> it also allows you to wrap rdp in sll 19:37 < warrendubz> err ssl 19:48 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:54 <@ware> yah tell the vpn not to override y0 default gq 19:54 <@ware> gw* 19:54 <@ware> always have your gq up 19:55 <@wizardpc> my ADD is kicking in 19:56 <@ware> do more 19:56 <@ware> ! 19:56 <@ware> i play WoW and masturbate at the same time, does that count? 19:57 <@wizardpc> I have a list of 14 items I need to get finished, and I keep getting off track 20:02 <@ware> i got 20:02 <@ware> a pizza to eat 20:02 <@ware> and some video games to play 20:06 -!- DigitalIrony [n=eric@216.207.245.1] has left #se2600 [] 20:06 -!- DigitalIrony [n=eric@conference/asterisk/x-d29dfc9dd87c28d4] has joined #se2600 20:07 -!- DigitalIrony [n=eric@conference/asterisk/x-d29dfc9dd87c28d4] has quit [Client Quit] 20:08 <@wizardpc> well shit one of my ubuntu VMs won't connect to any machine but the host 20:09 <@ware> did you set it to use a bridge? 20:09 <@ware> on the host 20:09 <@wizardpc> yea 20:09 -!- DigitalIrony [n=eric@conference/asterisk/x-4c4c919acb691079] has joined #se2600 20:10 <@wizardpc> ok it'll ping the gateway 20:11 <@sdodson> does it actually use it as the default route? 20:11 <@wizardpc> i bet not 20:12 <@ware> did you give it two test tickles? 20:14 <@sdodson> Ubuntu is Elmo? 20:15 -!- Godstrong [i=Godstron@24-183-213-128.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["I was only here because my server was down...hahaha"] 20:18 <@wizardpc> hrm...it's right in resolv.conf, and I get an error saying the "to" is a duplicate when I try to route add default gw 20:18 <@ware> $ route print 20:18 <@ware> well a, can you ping the gw of the real network 20:19 <@ware> then b can you ping an external ip 20:19 <@ware> if you can then its obviously dns 20:19 <@ware> if you cant then you have to reformat 20:19 <@wizardpc> cant ping outside the router by IP 20:20 <@wizardpc> "network is unreachable" 20:20 <@ware> but you can ping the lan side of the router, right? 20:20 <@ware> which would indicate its default gw isnt correct 20:20 <@ware> # route add default gw 192.168.1.1 20:21 <@wizardpc> " I get an error saying 20:21 <@wizardpc> the "to" is a duplicate when I try to route add default gw 20:22 * wizardpc is pwnd by linux, which is why he dont use it much 20:22 <@ware> will it let you delete the route? 20:22 <@ware> default gw* 20:23 <@ware> # route delete default gw 20:23 <@wizardpc> well fuck me with a toaster apparently I just needed to do it twice or something 20:24 <@wizardpc> cuz im up now 20:24 < mrtsunami> hot 20:24 < mrtsunami> (literally) 20:24 <@ware> haha 20:24 <@ware> werd 20:27 < TheLightCosine> arrrrg 20:27 < TheLightCosine> i dunno what my daughter did to my laptop while i was away 20:28 <@wizardpc> peed on it 20:29 < TheLightCosine> one of my launchers is missing and my desktop is like zoomed in almost 20:29 < warrendubz> hey wizard have you tried using freebsd? 20:30 -!- TheLightCosine [n=c0malod@c-67-177-170-29.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:30 < warrendubz> I learn alot of networking skills there 20:30 < warrendubz> err learned 20:31 <@wizardpc> i use ubuntu because the install was really easy 20:32 <@wizardpc> "hi, I want a LAMP 20:32 <@wizardpc> "okay, select this option" 20:32 <@wizardpc> done 20:32 -!- Criticalmass [n=polx@adsl-240-221-208.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:32 < Criticalmass> whats up everyone 20:32 < warrendubz> gotcha 20:32 <@wizardpc> me and linux dont get along, so the less interaction I have the better 20:33 -!- Criticalmass is now known as Criticalmass24 20:33 < Criticalmass24> when will phreaknic forums be up 20:34 <@wizardpc> there's phreaknic forums? 20:34 < Criticalmass24> it says on the site there working on it 20:34 < Criticalmass24> Phreaknic 12 Forum Placemarker... We're getting to this part, I swear. 20:34 <@wizardpc> lol....the 12th of never 20:35 < Criticalmass24> damn 20:35 < Criticalmass24> that sucks i will lookin forward to a forum 20:36 < Criticalmass24> does anyone here live near clarksville 20:37 <@wizardpc> evilpig lives in murray i think 20:37 < Criticalmass24> cool my sister goes to school there 20:38 < warrendubz> blackhat slides are up if anyone was interested http://michaelboman.org/blog/2008/08/07/blackhat-2008-slides-available-get-your-copy-here/ 20:39 <@ware> is she hot? 20:39 <@ware> Criticalmass24: you dont have a sister unless you show pics 20:39 < Criticalmass24> lol 20:42 <@ware> do you ride with critical mass ppl? 20:42 <@ware> bikes 20:43 <@ware> well, it doesnt matter really. i still want to bone your sister 20:45 < Criticalmass24> no 20:45 < Criticalmass24> i took bombs apart in the military 20:46 <@tzanger> Criticalmass24: did some smart ass sneak up on you and pop a plastic bag to initiate you? 20:46 < Criticalmass24> no 20:46 < Criticalmass24> :) 20:47 <@wizardpc> mmmmm...eod 20:48 < Criticalmass24> yep 20:50 < warrendubz> i used to love the days when eod would let loose on the mountain in mosul 20:54 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@cpe-071-070-193-020.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 21:03 <@wizardpc> awww look at the cute monkey! 21:13 <@ware> eod? 21:13 <@ware> is that like cod? 21:14 <@wizardpc> eod is the bomb squad 21:14 <@wizardpc> for the ARMY 21:15 < Criticalmass24> yea bomb squad we take mines and shit apart 21:15 <@wizardpc> they dont deal with piddly pipe bombs that tim made when he was in fifth grade 21:15 < Criticalmass24> get blown up 21:15 < Criticalmass24> like huge bombs and mines and c4 and all that good shit :) 21:16 <@wizardpc> and youre going to share, right? 21:24 < Criticalmass24> na man i was blown up 21:24 < Criticalmass24> i am out of the military now 21:25 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@dsl092-160-052.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:38 -!- Criticalmass24 [n=polx@adsl-240-221-208.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [] 21:56 <@Dagmar> YO 21:56 <@Dagmar> Anyone looking for some cheap kiosk machines, check this 21:56 <@Dagmar> http://nashville.craigslist.org/sys/787371993.html 21:57 <@Dagmar> I've got one of the Gateway Profile 4's here. 21:57 <@Dagmar> It's a decent little machine, and has a miniPCI slot in it. You can pop an ipw2200 card in it to get wireless for like $15 from eBay. 21:59 -!- warrendubz [n=jonathan@c-68-52-67-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["WeeChat 0.2.6"] 22:03 <@Dagmar> For $50 those E2000's would make nice firewalls 22:25 <@wizardpc> not bad 23:14 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-98-233-29-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 23:19 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@c-98-218-79-132.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:58 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-98-233-29-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] --- Log closed Fri Aug 08 00:00:07 2008