--- Log opened Fri Aug 01 00:00:37 2008 00:01 < M0j0-j0j0> by the time mosaic gave way to IE/Netscape I was focused way to much on code to really pay attention to sites that didn't get me what I was trying to find 00:02 < M0j0-j0j0> I guess that's why myspace, facebook, and all of 'those sites' just don't do it for me 00:02 < M0j0-j0j0> fav site: google.com 00:02 < M0j0-j0j0> reason: light weight and functional 00:03 < M0j0-j0j0> don't even really like the igoogle thing 00:03 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 00:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 00:06 < M0j0-j0j0> if all the resources the country has put into myspace pages could have been focused on alternative fuel research... I'd be able to fly to work using my air fueled rocket shoes by now 00:06 * M0j0-j0j0 is a myspace hater. 00:11 <@aestetix> Woah. 00:11 <@aestetix> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/news/phoenix-20080731.html 00:11 <@aestetix> This some of the biggest space news we've had in decades. 00:12 < M0j0-j0j0> confirmed 00:25 <@NotLarry> night all 00:30 <@Catonic> NotLarry: if you're ever down this way, KEEP IN TOUCH you fucker. 00:35 -!- Godstrong [i=Godstron@24-183-213-128.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 00:40 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:41 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 00:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 00:42 <@someninjamaster> ttp://xkcd.com/ 00:42 <@someninjamaster> http://xkcd.com/ 00:42 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 00:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maverickbna] by ChanServ 00:42 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 00:42 -!- maverickbna is now known as ShadowHntr 00:45 <@rattle> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/07/31/canada.bus/index.html 00:45 <@rattle> Holy fucking shit. 00:45 <@rattle> You know, there's one weirdo on every bus... 00:46 <@Catonic> Woah. 00:46 <@Catonic> I am packing a jo from now on. 00:46 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:47 <@rattle> It seems the kid killed was sleeping at the time. 00:47 <@rattle> Being stabbed is a lousy way to wake up, I'm sure.. 00:50 <@Catonic> if my seatmate did that, I imagine he would cease to worry about his own life. 00:52 <@rattle> That can be an immediate game over... There are numerous places you can stab a person that = death. 00:52 <@rattle> That can be hard to do when someone is fighting you.. But a sleeping person? 00:52 <@rattle> That's just fucking evil. 00:53 <@Catonic> decapitated... 00:53 <@Catonic> dude had a serious weapon or some concertina wire 00:54 <@rattle> "Witnesses described the weapon as a large butcher-type knife." 00:54 * polerin is so tired 00:54 <@rattle> Kinda makes you wonder what he did after that. Did he sit there and play with the head? 00:56 <@rattle> I'll admit to being fucked up enough to want details. This is like something out of a horror movie. Like, I'm freaked out. 00:56 <@Catonic> rattle: I don't mean to be morbid, but... 00:56 <@Catonic> it wasn't a total decapitation 00:56 <@Catonic> how else did he scream? 00:57 <@polerin> Catonic: he was stabbed first 00:57 <@rattle> I'm assuming that was towards the beginning of things.. 00:57 <@polerin> stabbing genrally makes one scream 00:57 <@polerin> and.. ow. 00:57 <@polerin> what the hell. 00:58 <@rattle> If you sustain serious neck damage.. You will die. It just may take a good 45 seconds of complete terror. 00:58 <@polerin> rattle: he stabbed the guy repeatidly then proceded to try to cut his head off 00:58 <@polerin> that's just ... wow. thanks for giving me nightmares 00:58 <@polerin> ass :P 00:59 <@rattle> Everything from arterial bleeding to blood bubbles and drowning in blood can play a role. Like, that's a fucked up thing. 00:59 * someninjamaster cocks the .45 next to his be 00:59 <@someninjamaster> bed 00:59 * someninjamaster then cocks the .357 01:00 * Catonic just cocks his cock. 01:00 <@rattle> Anyone got a roommate that might freak out tonight and stab them in their sleep? 01:00 <@rattle> I live with Neoteric. 01:00 <@rattle> I think he is the poison type though. 01:00 <@Catonic> You know, I've never had that fear. 01:00 <@rattle> Catonic: Until NOW! HAHA 01:00 <@polerin> I think lissa would more be the throw me around the room type 01:00 -!- Godstrong [i=Godstron@24-183-213-128.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["I was only here because my server was down...hahaha"] 01:01 <@polerin> but I don't think that's a cause for concern 01:01 <@Catonic> budo and aikido are entirely too damn close 01:01 <@Catonic> and budo is "how quickly can I kill you and go on to the next guy?" 01:01 <@polerin> meh 01:01 <@rattle> I already consider Greyhound a non-existant option for travel, but that's set in stone now.. 01:02 <@polerin> aikido would be "That's nice, but I'm going to put you over HERE while you think about that" 01:02 <@polerin> Greyhound I'd do again... .if I were desperate 01:02 <@polerin> and had a friend to watch my back.. I'm not doing it by myself 01:02 <@polerin> not any more :/ 01:02 <@Catonic> polerin: if you want to check it out, there's an extremely good dojo in downtown nashville... 01:02 <@Catonic> aikido done right ... it's just fucking art. 01:02 <@polerin> oh, that studio is good? 01:02 <@polerin> on 9th? 01:02 <@Catonic> aikido done wrong... parts get broken 01:03 <@polerin> Catonic: My sister is adopted... her paternal grandfather is an Aikidoka who studied under O sensi 01:03 <@Catonic> orly?! 01:03 <@polerin> I've always wanted to study akidio 01:03 <@polerin> yeah 01:04 <@Catonic> 521 8th Ave. South 01:04 <@Catonic> suite 304. 01:04 <@polerin> yeah I know where it is 01:04 <@polerin> right above where javanco used to be 01:04 <@Catonic> wow... small world. 01:04 <@polerin> :) 01:05 <@Catonic> I remember reading about javanco on the nashville linux users list 01:05 <@polerin> ok what the hell. method is being called, data is there, why isn't it rendering 01:05 <@polerin> GUH. 01:05 <@Catonic> I find that aikido brings some balance to me, because I have all of those unresolved anger issues. 01:05 <@polerin> Catonic: Yeah, I bought my first components there.. though at the old location not the final one 01:06 <@Catonic> SkyDog_ has studied hapkido, and I've worked with some hapkido students who wanted to check out aikido... 01:07 <@Catonic> hapkido is small circle, aikido is large circle... 01:07 <@polerin> hapkido. meh 01:07 <@polerin> sorry 01:07 <@polerin> hehe 01:07 <@Catonic> personally, I think it's easier to deal with people who are drunk and raving with an art that doesn't put you right into a wrist break. 01:08 <@polerin> if I were to study small circle, it'd probably be small circle jujitsu 01:08 <@polerin> I need to learn SOMETHING else.. TKD is fine and all, but I've no intermediate steps 01:08 <@Catonic> depending on what art your adopted sibling's family studied, it may be aikijitsu 01:08 <@Catonic> BJJ 01:08 <@polerin> it's either "Hi I'm going to kick the crap out of you now" or "ok we aren't going to fight." 01:09 <@polerin> no, it's aikido :) 01:09 <@Catonic> I went out with this chick who'd studied it.. make making out interesting... "Um... I've got me." 01:09 <@Catonic> *made 01:10 <@Catonic> polerin: o sensei had many students... the dojo in nashville is an ASU dojo, which is the organization to which I belong, which is one of his later students.. 01:10 <@polerin> arg, I can't remeber his last name 01:10 <@polerin> and ace is way too common 01:11 <@Catonic> he actually pointed out at the seminar in nashville that he wears a gi with o sensei's dojo's name on it, not his own dojo he runs. 01:11 <@Catonic> saotome sensei has a lot of quirks... 01:11 <@polerin> ah! 01:12 <@Catonic> while everyone else was in ATL getting shitfaced, I was in BNA watching a 72 year old man go off about how there are too many blacks and gays in the US 01:12 <@Catonic> a 72 year old *japanese man*... 01:13 <@polerin> lol 01:13 <@polerin> yeah he'd not have liked me :P 01:13 <@polerin> that's part of the problem I've got with martial arts 01:13 <@Catonic> well, I was staying with a gay aikido student who didn't show up at the event 01:14 <@Catonic> the comments were not well recieved by him 01:15 <@polerin> I'm not supprised 01:15 <@polerin> :P 01:17 <@Catonic> I have immense respect for the student though. He's a person I am glad to have had the opportunity to work with. 01:19 <@Catonic> the folks in the nashville dojo are higher ranked than my own instructor. 01:19 <@Catonic> I wish I could study with them, but there are only so many days in a week 01:20 <@polerin> I want to go back to martal arts 01:20 <@polerin> but it is going to have to wait 01:24 <@Catonic> I'm seriously thinking about smoking pot before going to class again 01:24 <@polerin> :P 01:28 <@Catonic> polerin: it is a long road, however... 01:29 <@Catonic> our sensei is a nidan and has studied for 15 years 01:29 <@polerin> I'm not interested in rank 01:29 <@polerin> I love learning 01:29 <@polerin> and the repitition 01:29 <@coil> pass 12 on the ram 01:29 <@coil> i think this ram isgood 01:29 <@Catonic> that's fortunately, because it is extremely slow to level up in aikidp 01:29 <@Catonic> *aikido 01:29 <@polerin> I will keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over untill I get it 01:30 <@polerin> Lissa gets annoyed 01:30 <@polerin> hehe 01:30 <@Catonic> I'm actually switching dojos because of that same reason 01:30 <@Catonic> you learn a technique, then you -really- learn it... 01:30 <@polerin> This is the 40th time you've done that song, SWITCH 01:30 <@Catonic> what works on a small person does't work on a large person 01:30 <@Catonic> there are things I can do to a 5'10" 130 lb woman that I couldn't dare try with a 150 lb 6' guy. 01:31 <@Catonic> one of the most difficult people I have worked with is a woman who is 5' even or shorter 01:31 <@Catonic> it's easy for her... but very hard on me to keep up due to the disparity 01:32 <@Catonic> some techniques are just almost impossible due to the fact that I dont bend in the same place she does. 01:32 <@polerin> yeah 01:32 <@polerin> wheras I'm just the right size for most people to throw around 01:45 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:46 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 01:57 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:57 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 02:01 <@Catonic> zomg, I've been spinning my way to and from work for the last two weeks 02:02 <@Catonic> hills and projects... you don't stop in the projects... 02:03 <@polerin> Ok. 02:03 <@polerin> bed 02:03 <@coil> spinning? 02:03 <@Catonic> indoor bicycling 02:04 <@Catonic> I do it outside in the 97-degree heat, then walk into the datacenter and correct the humidity defficency by standing in front of an A/C unit 02:05 <@Catonic> I cut five minutes off my commute, and risk my life six times as much! 02:05 <@Catonic> (I am an adrenaline junkie, it would seem) 02:07 <@coil> lol 02:32 <@aestetix> dongz 02:54 -!- eryc [n=eric@gibson.mirrorshades.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:55 -!- eryc [n=eric@gibson.mirrorshades.net] has joined #se2600 04:21 -!- scort [n=scott@cpe-67-10-236-99.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 04:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o scort] by ChanServ 07:20 <@Shadow404> coil: diaf 07:28 < dasunt> I hate people. 07:28 < dasunt> "My computer is slow". 07:28 < dasunt> WTF is that? 07:28 <@brimstone> ignorance 07:30 * dasunt drops computer out of window, sees it accelerate at a rate of 9.8 m/s. 07:30 < dasunt> "Looks good to me, sir!" 07:43 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 07:46 <@I-MOD> dasunt, take it and don't give it back for a week 07:47 <@tzanger> heh 07:51 <@Shadow404> gah, just stupid end users that think you can click a few boxes and make it scream 07:52 <@I-MOD> wait, you can't? 07:52 <@I-MOD> but i want it now!!!111 07:52 <@Shadow404> we get the same thing with our cdn product, my videos are laggy on dialup, please resolve this issue, i haz presentation and need video in high def. 07:52 <@Shadow404> thats whwn i want to kill myself 07:53 <@Shadow404> high definition h.264 @ 1.5mb bit rate and hes trying to blame our network for not working 07:53 <@Shadow404> when hes on dial up 07:53 <@Shadow404> and his traceroute shows 900ms of lag beofre it hits our border routers 07:53 <@Shadow404> bleh 07:55 <@tzanger> Shadow404: you're clearly incompetent. 07:55 * brimstone sets fire to the third bar 07:55 <@Shadow404> clearly, i mean, dial up, jeez, everything should work with that 07:55 <@tzanger> our canadian phone lines are lubricated with bacon grease and maple syrup 07:55 <@brimstone> i KNEW IT! 07:55 <@Shadow404> haha, nice 07:55 <@Shadow404> tzanger: dude, im going to canada at end of month 07:55 <@tzanger> why I can call up a buddy and holler at him to look out the window and you can see hi-def images of moose looting his garbage bins 07:56 <@Shadow404> sadl, i may miss d*c again this year 07:56 <@tzanger> Shadow404: nice 07:56 <@tzanger> where at 07:56 <@Shadow404> that province above seattle 07:56 * Shadow404 shrugs 07:56 <@tzanger> Vancouver 07:56 <@Shadow404> yeah, maybe 07:56 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, miss d*c? sadness 07:57 * I-MOD already has a room setup 07:57 <@Shadow404> yeah, only time i could take off 07:57 <@I-MOD> and a weekend pass 07:57 <@Shadow404> you suck 07:57 <@I-MOD> like a vacuum! 07:58 <@tzanger> you suck like your mom 07:59 <@oddball> Shadow404: not coming to Dragoncon? 08:00 <@Shadow404> not sure, im working on it 08:01 <@Shadow404> and i got attire all ready for d*c as well, but alas, looks like vacation may land on that time 08:01 <@oddball> Of course, this might be the last Dragon I go to. 08:01 <@Shadow404> how come? 08:02 <@oddball> Wasn't real pleased with last year's, and it already looks like they've fucked over the filk track (again) 08:02 <@Shadow404> filk? 08:02 <@brimstone> like movie 08:02 * oddball smacks both brimstone and Shadow404 with a tuna 08:02 <@Shadow404> yeah, and doesnt look like they are having a fetish track this year 08:02 <@brimstone> aww, no fetish track :( 08:04 <@oddball> A bunch of the filk groups that rutinely cause the filk room to overflow were not invited to come this year, they didn't even have a filk director until about a week ago... 08:05 <@oddball> And, frankly, Naienko and I go to Dragon primarily because of the filk and shopping. There are usually other things we go to, and I like the hacker panels, but not enough to drop the kind of cash it takes to go there. 08:07 <@oddball> If this was the first time they had fucked up the filk track, that would be one thing. Last year one of the performers stepped in at the last minute and ran things, and his experience with dealing with the rest of the con staff was so bad that he decided he wouldn't come this year invited or not. 08:08 <@oddball> Ok, I'll stop ranting now 08:22 <@rhia> on the subject of rants ... SFW: http://crankyprof.blogspot.com/ 08:23 <@rhia> http://crankyprof.blogspot.com/2008/07/put-on-pot-of-single-malt-im-preparing.html for the purists 08:25 <@rhia> oddball: whyfore the filkers no have director til last week? 08:28 <@rhia> oddball: spent many early, early morning hrs in the filk room at every DC ... main draws for me are long distance friends, filk, vendors, tracks, art... pretty much that order 08:33 <@oddball> because the fandom director "couldn't find one he liked" 08:33 <@oddball> seriously... that was his answer 08:34 <@rhia> . . . 08:34 <@rhia> couldn't find one he liked ..... who IS this "fandom director"? 08:35 <@rhia> times like this make me wish we were back in ATL and still working staff at D*C 08:35 <@oddball> He found one shortly after a couple of the main filk draws made public that they weren't invited, and therfor probably not coming. 08:35 <@oddball> In other words, the hit shit the fan, and a new director mysteriously was found. 08:37 <@oddball> Oh, and the fan track sr. director is David Gordon. 08:39 <@ware> SRS 08:53 <@rhia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvQJsYnkNhA gotta watch out for recoil 08:54 <@I-MOD> coil++? 08:56 <@rhia> just a vid of a guy, literally, showing off his ass while shooting (ghetto drawers and recoil == instant moon) 08:57 -!- strages_ [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:59 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has joined #se2600 08:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 09:03 -!- Pr0nStrGeek_Work [n=bleh@66.199.31.1] has joined #se2600 09:04 -!- Pr0nStrGeek_Work [n=bleh@66.199.31.1] has left #se2600 [] 09:17 <@ware> haha 09:18 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 09:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 09:18 * ware is putting gOS on teh work desktop 09:33 * wizardpc wanders in 09:33 * brimstone turns wizardpc around 09:33 <@brimstone> you just wander on back out 09:35 <@ware> hahaha 09:35 <@ware> <3 being amused at the simplest stupidest shit 09:36 <@Shadow404> your special 09:38 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:44 <@Evilpig> you're special too Shadow404 09:47 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o strages] by ChanServ 09:51 <@dc0de> moanin 09:52 <@brimstone> not me 09:55 <@ware> SUP FOO. 09:55 * ware jumps on dc0de shoulders and piggybacks a ride to somewhere 09:56 <@ware> so after further exploration, SAN > NAS 09:56 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 09:56 <@ware> u wuz core ekt 09:56 <@brimstone> but it really depends on your application 09:56 <@ware> mornin MudFlap 09:56 <@ware> brimstone: agreed 09:56 < MudFlap> morning. 09:56 <@ware> large scale stuff SAN pwnies 09:56 <@ware> but all the application ive had to do was handled by NASs 10:05 <@wizardpc> oh. my. god. http://www.tacticalgrilling.com 10:10 <@ware> no. 10:12 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@jhester.net] has joined #se2600 10:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mtown_nerd] by ChanServ 10:18 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has quit ["Leaving."] 10:19 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 10:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 10:19 <@nachoguy> is there a unix command to remove empty directories? 10:20 <@brimstone> find . -type d -exec rmdir {} \; 10:22 <@nachoguy> bitchin 10:22 <@nachoguy> thanks. 10:22 <@brimstone> np 10:22 * brimstone connects unix commands like tinker toys 10:23 <@nachoguy> hrm, now I apparently need to run it several times, but it works 10:23 <@brimstone> ya, because the directories weren't empty the first pass 10:23 <@nachoguy> rsync was syncing over an empty directory structure and clobbering a VERY important symlink in the process 10:24 <@brimstone> i wanna say rsync has an option for non empty directories 10:24 <@brimstone> or empty 10:25 <@brimstone> or don't copy empty 10:25 <@brimstone> but i dunno 10:25 <@brimstone> rsync has too many options 10:28 <@ware> haha 10:30 <@nachoguy> rsync is insane 10:30 <@ware> ...ly AWESOME! 10:31 <@ware> "that was amazing! ....ly bad." 10:36 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:40 <@Shadow404> can someone run host on 64.74.54.211 10:40 <@ware> [w@abstract ~]$ host 64.74.54.211 10:40 <@ware> 211.54.74.64.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer dfc.serveme.com. 10:40 <@Shadow404> grr 10:43 <@nachoguy> brimstone, if you like rsync and debian/ubuntu, check out warsync 10:43 <@nachoguy> it's bitcin 10:43 <@nachoguy> eer, bitchin 10:43 <@brimstone> union? 10:46 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has joined #se2600 10:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 11:05 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 11:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 11:10 <@polerin> fuckin a. Bug squished. Shower and coffee time. 11:10 <@polerin> whoot 11:12 <@rhia> gotta scrub the bug juice off ;) 11:13 * ware skips along the creek with rhia 11:13 <@ware> weeeee 11:13 * ware haz a caffiene overload 11:13 <@ware> nom nom nom nom 11:14 <@ware> my brain is moving faster than the rdp session, its no goot 11:15 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:16 <@rhia> ware: just no splashy-splashy 11:18 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has joined #se2600 11:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 11:26 <@ware> snipurl.com/dnstest 11:26 <@ware> FOO NICKAZ 11:50 <@Catonic> dasunt: physics fail. 11:50 * ware spanks Catonic on the ass 11:50 <@Catonic> your computer dropped out of a window should accelerate at a rate of 9.8 m/s^2 11:51 * Catonic slaps ware across the face with The Pimp Hand. 12:00 <@aestetix> vagina 12:01 <@ware> Catonic: hahaha you have no pimp hand 12:02 <@aestetix> Woah. 12:02 <@aestetix> I just saw slashdot. 12:02 <@aestetix> This new border patrol policy... wtf? 12:03 <@Catonic> aestetix: any update on amd? 12:04 <@aestetix> Yeah. 12:04 <@aestetix> Basically.... PHP code is almost ready to be released. 12:05 <@aestetix> One of the people on the team was a douche and won't sign the GPL, so we are having to replace all her work. 12:05 <@aestetix> I was working on the readme/installer files last night though. 12:05 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: was she being paid? 12:05 <@aestetix> Things are a tad slowed because... I have a regular job. 12:05 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: no. 12:05 <@aestetix> But she did contribute to the project. 12:06 <@aestetix> As little as it may have been. 12:06 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: pay her, and call it a work for hire 12:06 <@aestetix> Hmm. $1/hr for an hour's worth of work? 12:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, that little? 12:07 -!- daswork2 [n=nobody@71.36.142.59] has joined #se2600 12:07 <@aestetix> It also covers her bitch tax. 12:10 <@aestetix> *sigh* I wanted to have some of the code up sooner, but we're in crunch time at my job, and getting anyone else to lift a finger is proving difficult. 12:12 < daswork2> I need to do a single logon. 12:12 < daswork2> All the apps I need to share the logon username/passwords support FreeRADIUS. 12:12 < daswork2> Opinions on FreeRADIUS? Good? Bad? 12:13 <@ware> awesome 12:13 < daswork2> Why? 12:15 <@ware> cause, it says Free in it 12:15 <@ware> just like FreeNAS 12:19 <@polerin> aestetix: yeah I know the feeling.. I've been crunching since I got the new job just trying to get situated and get used to coding 12:20 <@polerin> starting to get there though 12:21 <@brimstone> OpenRADIUS? 12:41 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: PN12 Volunteer Signup - Acidus Tested, Mother Approved - http://www.phreaknic.info/volunteers/ | Anyone interested in a LAN party in Nashville, contact ware 12:41 <@Dolemite> Since the Worth1000 contest is over... 12:42 <@Dolemite> That and I had Acidus throw his bag of tricks at the code to make sure it wasn't subject to sneakiness 12:42 <@brimstone> you're so proud of that 12:43 <@brimstone> heh, we now have an Acidus Test for web stuff 12:43 <@wizardpc> aestetix: RE: DHS Laptops...Pretty sure that's a 4th ammendment violation right there. 12:43 <@tzanger> doesn't matter; it is to protect you from those dang terrists 12:44 <@Dolemite> brimstone : Well I doubt that you want your contact info shared with other people, especially potential spammers 12:44 <@brimstone> no 12:45 <@wizardpc> no, that one's a clear violation, as it is happening wholly on US soil 12:45 <@Dolemite> He was unsuccessful to inject any SQL, though he did point out a XSS vulnerability that I patched before the link went on the home page 12:45 <@brimstone> yay! 12:45 <@Dolemite> You couldn't do anything other than make it echo what you input, but still 12:54 * ware can inject sql 12:54 * brimstone can ride his bike with no handlebars 12:58 <@ware> The email address supplied is not of a valid format. 12:58 * I-MOD validates ware's format 12:58 <@ware> no .'s in the us.er@host.tld allowed 12:59 <@I-MOD> try a + 12:59 <@I-MOD> it'll probably break 13:01 <@I-MOD> tldr 13:01 <@Dolemite> hrmm 13:01 <@Dolemite> I must have left that out of my regex 13:01 <@Dolemite> lemme fix0r that 13:01 <@brimstone> why can't you have a . in us.er? 13:02 <@brimstone> or is that the problem? 13:02 * brimstone stewfoos 13:03 <@Dolemite> aha, had a whitespace in my regex 13:03 <@I-MOD> onoes! 13:03 <@Dolemite> it'll work now 13:06 <@ware> werd 13:06 <@ware> gmail doesnt care about .'s anyways 13:07 <@ware> us.er@gmail.com is user@google.com 13:07 <@ware> err 13:07 <@ware> googlemail.com 13:07 <@Dolemite> gmail.com 13:07 <@brimstone> you there! make sense! 13:08 <@I-MOD> and user+whatever@gmail.com is user@gmail.com 13:09 <@Dolemite> update Users set UserComments='Only station me on Corydon\'s lap.' where Handle='ware'; 13:13 -!- servant74 [n=jack@68-30-121-209.area4.spcsdns.net] has left #se2600 [] 13:15 <@ware> ... 13:15 <@ware> u.s.e.r. 13:15 <@ware> 2 13:16 <@ware> u.s.e.r@gmail.com is interchangable with use.r@googlemail.com 13:18 <@Dagmar> Is any of this coming as s suprise to you guys? 13:18 <@ware> Dagmar: the gmail stuff/ 13:19 <@Dagmar> Those two mechanisms have been in there since before the thing lost it's beta tag. 13:19 <@ware> yah 13:19 <@Dagmar> The dots are considered inconsequential because some people like to use their real name as their email addres, and it might or might not mean their email address reads oddly (or contains naughty words). 13:20 <@Dagmar> The +chaff stuff is there because of a particular type of whitelisting that's been implemented. 13:20 <@ware> you making it to the meeting tonight? 13:20 <@Dagmar> You can pretty much set up an account to require exclusive whitelisting by giving people an email address in the form of username+(some crypto token)@gmail.com and set up filters to toss everything that doesn't match assigned tokens. 13:21 <@Dagmar> This way you can tell which website is run by lying bastards who just sold your contact information to a spammer. 13:21 <@Dagmar> ware: Well, I'm at the office, so um... I'll be in the building. ) 13:21 <@ware> ahh 13:21 <@ware> we should webcast it for ya then 13:22 <@Dagmar> I can just use the built in cameras up there. 13:22 <@Dagmar> *maniacal laughter* 13:22 <@Dagmar> For the record there's no such surviellance mechanisms up there, just in case anyone took that the wrong way. 13:22 <@ware> haha nice 13:26 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["At least I didn't have to invent 26 dimensions to get the math to work."] 13:28 <@Dagmar> LOL 13:28 <@Dagmar> Age of Conan is sending me mail saying they've enabled my account for friend codes so I can get friends in on a trial account 13:28 <@Dagmar> Why the hell would I want to do that to my friends 13:33 <@Catonic> I think I'm on to something here 13:33 <@I-MOD> crack? 13:33 <+MxZBot> crack is not good to smoke hun 13:33 * I-MOD kicks MxZBot 13:33 <@Catonic> I was just noticing that when you buy popcorn at the movies, each kernel looks roughly like the one before it. Yet, when you make microwave popcorn, the popped kernels look like fractals. 13:34 <@wizardpc> oddball around today? 13:34 <@Catonic> I kept the bag of popcorn in the freezer, then hot-air popped a half cup. 13:34 <@oddball> Maaaayyyybe 13:34 <@wizardpc> Catonic: get a job 13:34 <@Catonic> I swear these kernels turned inside out when they popped. 13:34 <@wizardpc> well yeah 13:35 <@Catonic> I mean completely inside out 13:36 <@wizardpc> whats with you and microwaves, anyway? 13:36 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking maybe someone wasn't careful in how they were storing their LSD 13:37 <@Catonic> Another way to look at it is real-time weapons research. You can see the bits of kernel left and realize they are shrapnel. 13:37 <@Dagmar> POpcorn looking like fractals? 13:38 <@Catonic> I've never done hallucinogens. 13:39 <@Dagmar> Yep well, I didn't say it was *your* LSD that was improperly handled. 13:39 <@Catonic> My parents won't admit to doing anything other than drinking. 13:41 <@Dolemite> I'm sure they admit to fucking 13:42 <@Dolemite> Once upon a time 13:42 <@oddball> Funny... He didn't make any mention of your parents... why did you assume that he did? What wre your parents hiding? :p 13:43 <@wizardpc> the sausage 13:43 <@Catonic> It was the next logical conclusion in my mind as to how I would wind up with LSD in my body.. 13:44 <@Catonic> if I didnt ingest it, then it had to have been there since birth 13:45 <@polerin> heheh 13:45 <@polerin> NOoooOOo I've NEVER doen anything baaad ;) 13:46 * Catonic starts collecting stones 13:48 <@Shadow404> woot, win against comcast for net neutraility 13:48 <@polerin> Shadow404: where? /. ? 13:48 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@mail.sunlightfoundation.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:49 <@Shadow404> http://www.savetheinternet.com/ 13:50 <@wizardpc> timball got a new job? 13:52 <@ware> gOS is FTL 13:52 <@Dagmar> Does this mean they'll stop fucking with people's network connections? 13:53 <@ware> case in point 13:53 <@ware> use ubuntu 13:53 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: i hope so dammit 13:53 <@coil> ubuntu kinda blows 13:53 <@coil> it fucks it's self up too much 13:53 <@Shadow404> give torrent full speed bitch comcast! 13:54 <@Dagmar> Hell, that's not what I'm worried about 13:54 <@Dagmar> I'm worried about them fucking me over and putting me in the >2000ms LAGTASTIC bracket or outright disconnecting me from Blizzard during the Zul'Aman run I've got tomorrow night 13:56 <@polerin> Dagmar: that's not a bracket hon :P 13:56 <@polerin> Dagmar: that's just the connection blowing. 13:56 <@polerin> though to be honest lag genrally comes from internal sources, loss is more often caused by the connection 13:56 <@polerin> unless there is something seriously wrong with the CMTS you're going thorugh 13:57 <@Dagmar> Well, that's a real possibility considering the number of times I get disconnected from the office per day 13:58 <@Dagmar> ...but that I can be pinging the AT&T router on the border of Blizzard's network and see <100ms ping times... 13:58 <@coil> ya ya ya Dagmar 13:58 <@Dagmar> ...and out of the blue get disconnected from the server, or go into that high latency? 13:58 <@coil> cry cry cry cuz you cant play your precious wow 13:58 <@polerin> dag: that depends on where the latency starts. 13:59 <@Shadow404> coil: diaf 13:59 <@polerin> and disconnected.. any number of things can do that 13:59 <@Evilpig> with wow the latency tends to start and stop with the server 13:59 <@polerin> yeah 13:59 <@polerin> don't get me wrong.. i'm not defending comcast 13:59 <@Dagmar> polerin: Like FIN packets with a TTL that doesn't match the rest of the traffic. 13:59 <@Dagmar> AHEM 13:59 <@polerin> fucking can suck my big toe 13:59 <@polerin> Dagmar: that is a fairly easy thing to do. and it sucks 13:59 <@polerin> I all against that 14:00 <@Dagmar> Did I mention I'll be sitting right next to Opheria while we're playing 14:00 <@Dagmar> ...and often it'll happen to one but not both of us. 14:00 <@polerin> dood... wait.. 14:00 <@polerin> you're both on the same connection 14:00 <@Dagmar> ...and didn't happen before they deployed Sandvine 14:00 <@I-MOD> that's a good reason to use a totally encrypted session layer :D 14:00 <@polerin> going through a router running NAT? 14:00 <@polerin> and you're blaiming COMCAST? 14:00 <@Dagmar> Of course. Going through *my* router in fact. 14:01 <@Dagmar> The same one I've been playing through for um, four or five years now. 14:01 <@Dagmar> Don't try to blame DNAT for this. 14:01 <@polerin> I'm not blaiming anything 14:01 <@Dagmar> That's crazy-talk. 14:01 <@polerin> I'm saying that if it were comcast, it'd happen to both of you 14:02 <@polerin> not to mention gaming isn't something they care about really traffic wise 14:02 <@polerin> the ammount of traffic gaming takes up is tiny compared to other stuff 14:02 <@Dagmar> That's fine. EFF pretty much said they were killing connections indiscriminately. 14:03 <@Dagmar> Any TCP connection at all seems to be fair game. 14:03 <@Evilpig> gaming may not take up much traffic. but it's packets are highly sensative to traffic shaping and latency changes 14:03 <@Dagmar> Especially since any "long lived" TCP connection is rather unlikely to be HTTP and much more likely to be BitTorrent or someone doing an encrypted link 14:03 <@polerin> Evilpig: I know that 14:04 <@polerin> Dagmar: I've held ssh connections open for 5 days 14:04 <@polerin> through comcast 14:04 <@Evilpig> ssh can lose packets and still stay connected 14:04 <@polerin> so can wow/counterstrike 14:04 <@Evilpig> god knows my phone goes out of service on the drive back from MO but it will stay connected til I can back 14:04 <@polerin> not a whole bunch, and you'll notice rubber banding, but the connection's not THAT fragile 14:05 <@Evilpig> once wow gets too far out of sync it boots you. happens more and more now than it used to 14:05 <@polerin> I'm saing don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to pure fuckupiddity 14:06 <@coil> i can play games and torrent over this hacked wireless connection just fine 14:06 <@coil> and it's not on comcast :) 14:07 <@Dagmar> polerin: I have probably not gone a whole shift without being disconnected at least 3 times in ovewr a month 14:08 <@oddball> Dagmar: If I remember correctly, you were having these problems shortly after moving to your current location. 14:08 -!- critch [n=critch@c-71-228-211-57.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o critch] by ChanServ 14:09 <@Evilpig> i'm blaming Dolemite 14:09 <@Evilpig> he's killing your connection cause he finds it funny 14:09 <@tzanger> heh 14:09 <@oddball> wouldn't suprise me 14:09 <@tzanger> it is funny 14:09 <@polerin> Dagmar: wait, are you plaing from the noc? or from home? 14:09 <@Evilpig> he had a button installed on his desk to inject bad packets 14:27 <@wizardpc> and remember, tennesseans, this is NOT the weekend to head to walmart to pick up a couple of things 14:27 < M0j0-j0j0> Pitch Media Gallery is what's going on tonight 14:27 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@cpe-071-070-193-020.nc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 14:29 <@oddball> There is a weekend to hit Walmart to pick up a couple of things? 14:30 <@Dagmar> You guys are making jokes and I *JUST* got reconnected. 14:30 <@coil> why wizardpc 14:31 <@coil> tax free weekend? 14:31 <@wizardpc> tax free weekend 14:31 <@coil> for everywhere 14:31 <@nachoguy> damnit 14:31 <@coil> or just tn? 14:31 <@ware> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH 14:31 <@nachoguy> my work place is overrun with the russian mob 14:31 <@wizardpc> just in TN, and just for certain things 14:31 < eryc> who the hell has a tax free weekend 14:31 <@Shadow404> no, ga too 14:31 <@ware> Dagmar: fix ur workstation! 14:31 <@coil> TX has one 14:31 <@coil> im not sure when 14:31 <@coil> it's either this weekened or next 14:32 <@ware> ___________________________ 14:32 <@ware> / /| 14:32 <@ware> +--------------------------+ | 14:32 <@ware> | justfuckinggoogleit.com! | | 14:32 -!- ware was kicked from #SE2600 by Dagmar [ENough] 14:32 -!- ware [i=w@ware.is.a.network.dj] has joined #se2600 14:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by ChanServ 14:32 <@coil> dick in a box 14:32 <@coil> but his name is ware 14:32 <@ware> why u frowwnin meh out? i liek it here 14:33 <@Dagmar> polerin: Something is seriously buggered and dying, but there's just no way to make anyone in Tech Suppport notice 14:33 <@Dagmar> ...cuz if it's not a problem with the modem, to them it didn't happen or it's a customer-side issue. 14:33 <@coil> that's because they dont care 14:33 <@coil> and they wanna go home for the day cuz they're tired of everyone bitching at them for shitty internet service 14:33 <@coil> like they can actually do anything 14:34 <@Dagmar> That time was something *someone* should have seen if their heads werne't up their asses 14:34 <@Dagmar> I quickly ssh'd over to dreamhost and was still unable to connect to home 14:34 <@coil> maybe they like the smell? 14:35 <@critch> Dagmar: the comcast network at my home and my office have been getting really screwed up. I'm getting disconnected at work and my PS3 seems to be having problem at home. 14:35 < eryc> the smell of death all around you? 14:35 <@Dagmar> So, Saturday night if you hear that someone called up CS and started "SCREAMING" into the phone at them... that was me 14:36 <@nachoguy> Dagmar, liar. you can't quickly ssh to dreamhost. their boxes have loads of like 14. It takes like 3 minutes for a login to process 14:36 <@critch> Saturday night I am going to the races with a chick that gets excited listening to motors straining. 14:36 <@Dagmar> nachoguy: Clearly you're not using the "We like you guys" service we are 14:37 <@Dagmar> We've been using Dreamhost for DLG's files for like four years that I've had an account 14:37 <@Dagmar> Either they've been completly down, or they've been fine the whole time 14:38 <@nachoguy> next time you log in, findout what the load on the box is. THe lowest I've ever seen it was 4.5 14:39 <@nachoguy> they're great for hosting large files, but even using vim on a file on that box is awful. I've had snappier connections with a 14.4 modem 14:39 <@nachoguy> but then again, they don't distriute load across clusters 14:39 <@coil> lol 14:39 <@Dagmar> [pico]$ uptime 14:39 <@Dagmar> 12:39:37 up 87 days, 2:23, 5 users, load average: 1.63, 1.80, 1.92 14:39 <@nachoguy> you could be on the "I like you guys" cluster 14:39 <@coil> that sounds like silenceisdefat.org 14:40 <@coil> 12:40PM up 7 days, 20:10, 11 users, load averages: 1.46, 1.88, 2.09 14:40 <@coil> that's my shell 14:40 <@Catonic> omg rule #34 14:40 <@critch> umm, WTF, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/buzzbeepbeep/brainporkfaggots.jpg 14:40 <@coil> wheres the porn 14:41 <@Dagmar> Wow. 14:41 <@Dagmar> McCain is _desperate_ for press attentio 14:41 <@coil> y 14:41 <@Catonic> Dagmar: until his approach is like that of the crackhead in Don't Be A Menace, I'm not listening... 14:41 <@nachoguy> load is at 9.08 14:42 <@nachoguy> on "ivan" 14:42 <@coil> nachoguy: how many users? 14:42 <@Catonic> politicians: Where else do you see ten men and one woman dancing around screaming "I'LL SUCK YO' DICK FOR A VOTE MANG!" 14:42 <@wizardpc> i dont car who you are this shit is funny: http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0808/House_Dems_turn_out_out_the_light_but_GOP_keep_talking.html 14:43 <@Dagmar> Well, they got upset before about that ugly green backdrop that some people made YouTube videos with since it was so each to use chromakey to put in weird backgrounds 14:43 <@Dagmar> So... todays press conference, what do they have him in front of? 14:43 <@Dagmar> Old school chromakey BLUE, with no nothing at all in it. 14:44 <@nachoguy> coil, I'm trying to get a list 14:44 <@nachoguy> I'll let you know when "w" finishes running 14:45 <@Dagmar> hah 14:45 <@nachoguy> it finished 14:45 <@nachoguy> either I'm the only user on the box or they block me from finding out who else is logged in 14:46 * I-MOD guesses blockage 14:46 <@nachoguy> the same way I can't see other user's processes with ps aux 14:48 <@Dagmar> Sounds like you have a shell account 14:48 <@Dagmar> We have a vhost 14:48 <@Catonic> pstree is your friend :) 14:49 <@nachoguy> ah, I thought they didn't they didn't have vhosts until about a year ago 14:49 <@nachoguy> Catonic, pstree returns nothing 14:50 <@Catonic> hrm 14:50 <@Catonic> are you 0wn3d? 14:50 <@nachoguy> it's not my box 14:50 <@nachoguy> it's a shared hosting box 14:50 <@nachoguy> so they lock down what I have access to 14:51 <@ware> yeah 14:51 <@ware> its just locked down 14:51 <@ware> like its supposed to 14:51 <@ware> whos the host 14:51 <@ware> dreamhost? 14:51 <+MxZBot> dreamhost is powered by the souls of damned orphans! 14:51 <@Catonic> lol 14:51 <@nachoguy> that's correct 14:51 <@nachoguy> ware: indeedily 14:52 <@Catonic> Catonic? 14:52 <+MxZBot> you are not a pimp 14:52 * Catonic pimphands the bot 14:53 <@ware> hahahaha 14:54 <@ware> {{{{{ pwnd }}}}} 14:56 <@nachoguy> nachoguy? 14:56 <+MxZBot> you are lame 14:56 <@nachoguy> heh 14:57 <@ware> ware? 14:58 <@ware> mine was set to something homoriffic 14:58 <@ware> MxZBot: ware? 14:58 <+MxZBot> you are the poster child for birth control 14:58 <@Shadow404> fow'shure 14:58 -!- DagmarX [i=813b8dd4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-75ec471a20298a8b] has joined #Se2600 14:58 <@Mirage> YOu don't have much room to talk..=P 14:58 <@ware> DagmarX: HAI! 14:59 < DagmarX> I swear polerin might be the only non-retarded employee Comcast has 14:59 <@Shadow404> did he fix your connection? 14:59 < DagmarX> Nope. 14:59 < DagmarX> I'm about to call and open a damn ticket tho 15:00 < DagmarX> I'm paying a couple o' bucks a month for a "I ain't paying a service visit fee even if it IS my fault" policy, and I'm about to use it 15:00 <@Shadow404> "hello sir, we are able to ping your ip, this ticket will now be closed". " Please open antoher ticket if the problem reappears" /loop 15:00 < DagmarX> I think I can probablyt make them open about 50 of those a day 15:00 < DagmarX> Of course, IF I could actually get to my house again, I could let them ping it 15:01 < DagmarX> I'm about to grill the fuck out of osmeone over there tho 15:01 < DagmarX> I am finally just fucking sick of this 15:01 < DagmarX> Either they will fix this shit, or I go to AT&T 15:01 <@ware> DagmarX: if you need a shell i can hook you up on my box :P 15:01 < DagmarX> ware: Which will do me what good? 15:02 <@Evilpig> it won't do you any 15:02 < DagmarX> If I were home right now, I'd be offline. 15:02 <@Evilpig> but it wil let ware harass you 15:02 <@Shadow404> DagmarX: none, cause he will get bitchy and shutoff the server after saying his sick of us all 15:02 < DagmarX> hehe 15:02 <@ware> Evilpig has the right idea 15:02 <@Shadow404> DagmarX: none, cause he will get bitchy and shutoff the server after saying his sick of us all 15:02 <@ware> Shadow404: the server has been up the entire time 15:02 -!- Curbob [n=curbob@12.51.122.46] has quit [] 15:02 <@ware> ACTUALLY 15:03 <@Shadow404> oh really 15:03 <@Evilpig> everyone strap in. it's about to get bumpy in here 15:04 * Evilpig raises the bullshit alert to factor 5 15:05 <@Shadow404> ware: then please open a trouble ticket as urgent to get me re-connected please 15:05 <@Shadow404> ware: "my inet doesnt work, please fix it" 15:07 <@ware> BULLSHIT WARP FACTOR 5 15:07 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:07 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@c-68-52-140-181.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #SE2600 15:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 15:07 <@ware> {{{{{ o - R | \ E ! 7 E = e L @ # }}}}} 15:07 < DagmarX> Okay. 15:07 <@ware> {{{{{ m H | 3 - | T 3 | O u f | b s ) }}}}} 15:08 <@ware> {{{{{ G 4 @ D | 7 S i H V | U 4 < | h # }}}}} 15:08 <@ware> {{{{{ Z C E 5 7 | _ 4 k t _ | ( }}}}} 15:08 <@ware> {{{{{ \ x m I R ! s T | R e o | 7 ! }}}}} 15:08 -!- ware was kicked from #SE2600 by Dagmar [WTF man] 15:08 -!- ware [i=w@ware.is.a.network.dj] has joined #se2600 15:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by ChanServ 15:08 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by nachoguy [nachoguy] 15:08 -!- ware [i=w@ware.is.a.network.dj] has joined #se2600 15:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by ChanServ 15:08 <@ware> evilpig called it. 15:08 <@Dagmar> Don't make us epilady you when you come to the meeting 15:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [-o+b ware *!*i=w@*.network.dj] by Catonic 15:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by ChanServ 15:09 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by Dolemite [Banned] 15:09 <@Catonic> epilady? Where do I sign up? 15:09 <@Shadow404> woot 15:09 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: you know hes just going to vhost storm the channel now, right? 15:10 <@rhia> Shadow404: which would prove ... what? 15:10 <@Shadow404> that he hasn't learned anything 15:11 -!- ware_ [i=w@a.nun.doesnt.even.need.a.c1itor.us] has joined #se2600 15:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware_] by ChanServ 15:11 <@ware_> rofl 15:11 <@Shadow404> haha 15:11 <@Catonic> He's ware, the only thing he's proved is time and again how to be the bottom bitch of the channel. 15:11 <@Shadow404> lawl 15:11 <@Catonic> beta male: don't do that. 15:11 <@coil> hahahahahahaahhahhahahah 15:12 <@coil> a.nun.doesnt.even.need.a.c1itor.us 15:12 <@ware_> :D 15:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*i=w@*.nun.doesnt.even.need.a.c1itor.us] by coil 15:12 -!- ware_ was kicked from #se2600 by coil [i just wanted to ban clitorus] 15:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*i=w@*.nun.doesnt.even.need.a.c1itor.us] by coil 15:12 <@someninjamaster> zomg coil you found it 15:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*i=w@*.network.dj] by coil 15:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*n=lioc@67.10.243.*] by coil 15:13 -!- ware [i=w@ware.is.a.network.dj] has joined #se2600 15:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by ChanServ 15:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com*] by coil 15:13 <@ware> oh cmon, its friday and meeting day 15:13 <@Shadow404> someninjamaster: lawl 15:13 <@ware> chillax 15:13 <@coil> i am ware 15:13 <@coil> that was fun kick 15:14 -!- jtodd [n=jtodd@blob.fox-den.com] has joined #se2600 15:14 -!- jtodd [n=jtodd@blob.fox-den.com] has left #se2600 ["Leaving"] 15:15 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by someninjamaster [i will not have you telling coil want a dick he is] 15:15 -!- ware [i=w@ware.is.a.network.dj] has joined #se2600 15:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by ChanServ 15:15 -!- coil was kicked from #se2600 by someninjamaster [i will not have you telling ware how retared he is] 15:15 -!- coil [i=mist3r@plz.donthack.us] has joined #se2600 15:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil] by ChanServ 15:15 <@ware> rofl 15:15 <@someninjamaster> i will not have the insults in my channel 15:15 -!- ware_ [i=w@a.nun.doesnt.even.need.a.c1itor.us] has joined #se2600 15:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware_] by ChanServ 15:15 <@ware_> this vhost is ftw btw 15:15 -!- ware_ [i=w@a.nun.doesnt.even.need.a.c1itor.us] has quit [Client Quit] 15:15 -!- someninjamaster was kicked from #se2600 by coil [yo moma so fat] 15:15 -!- someninjamaster [n=jamesric@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 15:16 <@someninjamaster> haha 15:16 <@someninjamaster> she is 15:17 <@coil> coudln't think of a joke 15:17 -!- ware_ [i=w@ur.pussy-whipped.so.basically.she.0wns-j00.com] has joined #se2600 15:17 -!- ware_ [i=w@ur.pussy-whipped.so.basically.she.0wns-j00.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:17 <@coil> lame 15:17 <@coil> fucking lame 15:17 <@coil> lame lmae lmae lmae lmae lame alemaemlemalm emllame lmae ea lmem lae almlme a aeml 15:17 < DagmarX> OKay. Got a technician coming out to scratch his head at the coax between noon and three tomorrow. 15:17 <@coil> lol 15:18 <@SkyDog_> That is what they are trained for. 15:18 <@SkyDog_> There are two good techs. About every 12th call, you will get one of them. 15:18 < DagmarX> They're treating the problem with all their usual "head up the ass" diligence I'm used to seeing 15:18 <@coil> DagmarX: as with any isp 15:18 <@Catonic> The cable companies _really_ don't like it when you pull the professional credintials on them... 15:18 <@coil> DagmarX: do yoyu know what the fucking problem is? 15:19 -!- ware_ [i=w@STFU.or.you.will.find.my.foot.in.y0ur-ass.us] has joined #se2600 15:19 -!- ware_ [i=w@STFU.or.you.will.find.my.foot.in.y0ur-ass.us] has quit [Client Quit] 15:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*w@*] by coil 15:19 <@Catonic> "I am a TV engineer, and my son is a TV engineer. And you have a serious problem with the signal you are attempting to deliver." 15:19 <@Shadow404> Catonic: oh yeah, they do, especially when you have the tools your self to prove the line is bad 15:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*w@*] by ware 15:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*w@*] by coil 15:20 <@ware> dude. 15:20 < DagmarX> coil: Something's fucked up with their equipment that talks to the cablemodem 15:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*w@*] by coil 15:21 <@coil> dude 15:21 < DagmarX> Beyond that, I neither know nor care, but I *am* sick to death of it 15:21 <@coil> switch to antoher isp and quit fucking bitching 15:21 < DagmarX> ...and I will damn well switch to AT&T DSL if they can't fix it 15:21 < DagmarX> coil: How about YOU try changing internet providers and see what a huge pain in the ass it is 15:22 <@ware> ahh bored. 15:22 <@coil> im about to do it 15:22 <@coil> it's not board 15:22 < DagmarX> Don't act like it's so freaking easy I'm an asshole for bitching about the fact that retarded 8 year olds could fix this stuf better 15:22 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 15:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 15:22 <@coil> i dont think retarded 8 year olds could fix stupid 15:23 <@ShadowHntr> oi ! i resemble that remark ! ;) 15:23 < DagmarX> I think a retarded 8 year old could still tell there was a problem after he'd finished his troubleshooting steps 15:23 * brimstone hugs DagmarX 15:23 <@coil> hi ShadowHntr i got my ram 15:23 <@brimstone> why are you so angry all the time? 15:23 <@ShadowHntr> coil: rock on 15:23 <@coil> so my computer should be rock solid stable now 15:24 * coil knocks on wood 15:24 < DagmarX> ...because I'm pretty sure that tomorrow afternoon I'm calling AT&T the moment I get off the phone with Comcast trying, yet again, to tell me there is no problem. 15:24 <@coil> att fuckign sucks too 15:24 < DagmarX> I let this go for a long time because it wasn't a big hassle. Getting disconnected 3-4 times a week isn't any big deal. 15:24 < DagmarX> Now, it's about once an hour. 15:24 <@coil> use someone elses internet 15:24 <@coil> i found this good ap that has defualt pass on it 15:24 < DagmarX> Here's an idea... 15:25 <@coil> so i can map ports and i have access to the router 15:25 <@brimstone> don't worry, be happy! 15:25 < DagmarX> ...and I say this knowing full well what it means, not just because it's the "thing cool kids say" like you do coil. 15:25 < DagmarX> Die in a fire, bitch. 15:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*=813b8dd4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-75ec471a20298a8b] by coil 15:25 -!- DagmarX was kicked from #se2600 by coil [no thx] 15:25 * Dementia gets the popcorn 15:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*=813b8dd4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-75ec471a20298a8b] by coil 15:26 -!- coil was kicked from #SE2600 by Dagmar [DIAF II: RETURN OF THE FUCKYOUS] 15:26 -!- coil [i=mist3r@plz.donthack.us] has joined #se2600 15:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil] by ChanServ 15:26 <@ShadowHntr> oh god here we go again 15:26 <@Dagmar> Ha. 15:26 <@ShadowHntr> :P 15:26 <@coil> Dagmar: OMGHAI2U 15:26 * brimstone hugs everyone 15:27 <@coil> ewww boy cooties 15:27 <@Dagmar> By the way, I'm pretty impressed with how well mibbit.com works. 15:27 <@coil> yep 15:27 * brimstone 15:27 <@coil> it can save your shit too 15:27 <@coil> so that's aesome 15:27 <@Dagmar> God only knows what kind of Lebanese military officials are sniffing the convversations, but the client works really damn well. 15:28 * Catonic hugs brimstone: I feel the love man. 15:28 <@coil> oh 15:28 <@coil> cgi:irc 15:28 <@Catonic> Dagmar: AT&T will sell you naked DSL 15:29 <@Catonic> MaxieZ will sell you nekkid DSL :-p 15:29 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Good for them. I kinda need some IP to go with that tho 15:29 <@coil> nekkid? 15:29 <+MxZBot> nekkid is much more comfortable and natural. 15:29 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:30 <@Catonic> Dagmar: talk to me in another week, I'll probably have a DSL modem to spare :-/ 15:30 <@Shadow404> MxZBot: agreed 15:30 <+MxZBot> Shadow404: Can you run that by me again? 15:30 <@Dagmar> Catonic: I have 2-3 somewhere aorund here. 15:30 <@coil> Catonic: i need a modem 15:30 <@coil> Dagmar: i need a modem 15:30 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: don't encourage it 15:30 <@Shadow404> coil: you need to daif 15:30 <@Dagmar> It's not like it's a big deal for me to go order another one. 15:30 <@Shadow404> MxZBot: evilpig? 15:30 <+MxZBot> evilpig is putting it to my wife. 15:30 <@Dagmar> Just, god only knows when AT&T will be able to put a line in my place 15:31 <@coil> start it now 15:31 <@Catonic> telcos at least understand uptime. 15:31 <@wizardpc> I have a 3mbps adsl modem at the house I think 15:31 <@coil> then cancel comcast when you get dsl 15:31 <@ware> lol 15:31 <@Catonic> The cable companies do not play a fair game. 15:31 <@coil> why not Catonic 15:32 <@Catonic> After over six months of being behind the mother of all NATs, only when my bill fell in arrears did they resume full connectivity 15:32 <@Dagmar> So, I guess I"m still the only person with Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2 on the DS, huh? 15:32 <@wizardpc> "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't properly plan" -US Army Air Cavalry 15:32 <@Catonic> Dagmar: kinda like being the only one with a wii, eh? 15:32 <@Evilpig> I have civ revolutions but that doesn't count 15:32 <@Dagmar> Man god knows I should just stop paying Comcast until they fix their shit, but the sheriff would probably be involved before they got it fixed 15:33 <@Dagmar> evilpig: I've been damn tempted to pick that one up 15:33 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: we'd bail you out. after a day or two 15:33 <@coil> i installed ut3 15:33 <@coil> how do you play online brimstone ? 15:33 <@Dagmar> I jst remember the Civ games multiplayer as being not so friendly for casual gaming 15:33 <@coil> buy a legal copy? :) 15:33 <@brimstone> coil: i've not yet 15:33 <@Shadow404> coil: ill whoop your ass this weekend with ut3 15:33 <@coil> it's really cool 15:33 <@coil> i've played a whole match 15:33 <@Evilpig> it's fun. but I wish it had a story mode. but it is nice for just picking something up and playing when you have time. the multiplayer was tedious 15:33 <@coil> and pwnd the easy bots 15:34 <@coil> with full resolution settings 15:34 <@ware> ill setup vpn to the heezy and give yall access to the lan server 15:34 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["End of line."] 15:34 <@ware> and yall can get pwnt 15:34 <@coil> cool 15:34 <@Catonic> i hate dressing up for the hairdresser 15:34 <@ware> cuz i will roxors you 15:34 <@coil> i like a good asswwhooping every once in a while 15:34 <@Shadow404> ware: you'll just shut it down after a few hours when you lose and call us assholes 15:34 <@coil> hahahaha 15:34 <@ware> haha i wont lose 15:34 <@Shadow404> ware: you'll just shut it down after a few hours when you lose and call us assholes 15:34 <@Evilpig> deja vu 15:35 <@ware> ECHO ECHO ECHO 15:35 <@coil> Shadow404: press up arrow and enter again 15:35 <@Shadow404> coil: daif 15:35 <@coil> Shadow404: nothx 15:35 <@Shadow404> that was bout 8 up in my buffer 15:35 <@coil> diaf 15:35 <@Shadow404> coil: daif 15:35 <@coil> no u 15:35 <@coil> oh shit i am very late to work 15:36 <@coil> but boss bitches at me over irc 15:36 <@Shadow404> im bringing a flame torch to the next con for you coil 15:36 <@Dagmar> Shadow: it's short for "DIE IN A FIRE", so try to get it right 15:36 <@coil> kinda makes me not wanna go in 15:36 <@Shadow404> gonna take care of it once and for all 15:36 <@coil> Shadow404: hah if ill ever be at another con :/ 15:36 <@Shadow404> coil: then i send you flame torch 15:36 <@Dagmar> evilpig: You remember the Penny Arcade commentary about POkemon multiplayer, right? 15:36 <@Catonic> how's Corydon76-dig doing these days? 15:36 <@Evilpig> yeah 15:37 <@coil> he turned straight 15:37 <@SkyDog_> Catonic: Mumbling your name and humping the air. 15:37 <@ware> hes bangin a chick apparently 15:37 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: hehe 15:37 <@Dagmar> Where Gabe was playing with little kids, and determined there were basically two types of players... one type who is into it to manipulate the stats and maximize damage and basically win no matter what, and the other type who just has six jigglypuffs because they think they're cute 15:37 <@Dagmar> I'm that second type, without the Jigglypuffs. 15:37 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 15:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 15:38 <@Evilpig> I've got a bunch of chimchar's. and I named them all blumpkin 15:38 <@Dagmar> Like, there's one guy here at work tho who has FFTA2 tho and I worry I might just crush him 15:38 <@ware> Dagmar: talkin about the card game? 15:38 <@polerin> Dagmar: you need to go back and play zanzarah then 15:38 <@polerin> lol 15:38 <@Dagmar> zanzarah? 15:38 <@polerin> pokemon for faries 15:38 <@polerin> sorta 15:38 <@Dagmar> I'm building my team in FFTA2 based on what amuses me, but I'm also hella diligent about making sure they're all super-lethal cahracters 15:39 * Dagmar makes a note of this "zanzarah" 15:39 <@polerin> cute game, and the fight dynamic is actually sorta fun. you create a selection 5 faries to run around with and use them in encounters, can switch them up for the best matchup vs the current farie that's out, etc 15:39 <@polerin> Dagmar: it's an old game.. I doubt you'll be able to find it easily. I can get you an ISO 15:39 <@polerin> like '02 15:39 <@ShadowHntr> damn it 15:39 <@Dagmar> polerin: Ah well I might not really bother then since I've got FFTA2 15:39 * polerin nods 15:39 <@Dagmar> I gotta say, my main guy is nasty. 15:39 <@polerin> it's fun st ill 15:39 <@polerin> still even 15:40 <@Dagmar> Two swords, and not _just_ the Counter skill, but a new one called "Bonecrusher" that always hits harder than you were hit 15:40 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: try professor layton and the curious village. it will be at least a week worth of entertainment 15:40 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-72-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 15:40 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I saw the PA review on that. Not sure I want to do someone's math homework that much, but I've been eyeing the used shelves at EBGames for it anywya 15:41 <@Dagmar> So like, some Wolf will attack my leader for say, 45 points, and he'll turn around and WHAM WHAM, 120, 141 damage, KO. 15:41 <@Evilpig> it had alot of math puzzles. and alot more word play type puzzles 15:42 <@Dagmar> I remmebver when I used to play Civ I'd keep coming up against people who had spent all this time reading up on the _exact_ skill tree that maximizes war power, and they would do that, and consequently eliminate my ass in like 25 rounds. 15:42 <@Dagmar> No fun. 15:42 <@Evilpig> actually I'll send it with notlarry and you can try it 15:43 <@rhia> Evilpig: got one of those that frustrates me so i haven't finished it .... the damn "put the worm in the middle of the apple" based on those cheap old slidey games folks would hand out at halloween instead of candy 15:43 <@Dagmar> I've done the demo of Civ on the Playstation 3 and I gotta say it looks SOOOO DAMN NICE 15:43 <@Evilpig> that took me forever! 15:43 <@Evilpig> have you tried the weekly puzzles? 15:43 <@Dagmar> Like, staring at it gives one the impression of soaking ones eyes in soothing cool rosewater 15:43 <@Dagmar> Weekly puzzles? 15:44 <@Dagmar> Ah okay 15:44 <@rhia> just once or twice, haven't it had it very long and Drag0n's been manipulating it lately, hehe 15:44 <@Evilpig> that was for rhia. professor layton has a weekly puzzle 15:44 <@Dagmar> Yeah I caught on 15:44 <@rhia> he's taking it to St. Petersburg next week 15:44 <@Evilpig> find the answer to the knight one. that is driving me nuts 15:44 <@ShadowHntr> damn it brought cd-r's instead of dvd-r's 15:44 <@ShadowHntr> :P 15:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: whatcha need? 15:46 <@coil> sex and money 15:47 <@ShadowHntr> LOL don't we all? 15:47 <@nachoguy> Skydog_, what's the entrance policy at the hackerpimps dc party? 15:47 -!- crim [n=crim@tasha.jewnix.com] has joined #se2600 15:48 <@someninjamaster> they need a copy of your drivers lic 15:49 <@Evilpig> nachoguy: you sit outside the door 15:50 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 15:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 15:50 <@nachoguy> well, I'm not making it to DC. One of my coworkers is and asked me about the party 15:53 <@Dagmar> Tell them you're traveling with "Carolyn P" and she's just running a bit behind, but she'll be there in about five minutes and you'll get the VIP treatment. 15:55 -!- Crucio [i=450fd6d9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-85e5d3b8972c694b] has joined #se2600 15:55 <@rhia> vilifying inhumane pillaging? 15:55 < crim> anyone making it out to the atlanta meeting? 15:55 -!- Crucio is now known as Guest31701 15:55 <@nachoguy> Dagmar, Mienel? 15:55 <@Shadow404> crim: you're joking right? 15:55 <@brimstone> crim: bop Shadow404 aboot the atl meeting 15:56 <@nachoguy> that putz is still around? 15:56 < Guest31701> why shadow? 15:56 <@Shadow404> we still have a meeting? 15:56 <@Shadow404> when did this happen? 15:56 -!- Guest31701 is now known as Cruciew 15:56 < crim> i dunno, last time I went was like 02 15:56 <@Shadow404> exactly 15:56 <@Shadow404> its dead 15:56 <@someninjamaster> gentleman start your torrents 15:56 <@Shadow404> dont waste yoru time 15:56 < Cruciew> haha 15:56 <@someninjamaster> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Government/Comcast-Guilty-of-Net-Neutrality-Violations/ 15:56 < Cruciew> awesome 15:57 < Cruciew> most of the guys reminded me of pedos anyway 15:57 <@rhia> Shadow404: could always start up again if some of us old fogies move back .... maybe 15:57 < Cruciew> i guess i was a bit young when i went. 15:57 <@Dagmar> someninjamaster: Hey do you have Comcast at your place? 15:58 <@Evilpig> rocket wasn't a pedo. I don't think. if he was I don't wanna know 15:58 < crim> so you're saying its not worth the walk accross the street to see 15:58 <@someninjamaster> Dagmar: yes 15:58 <@Evilpig> you are asking if it isn't worth your time to walk across the street? you lazy fuck 15:59 < crim> yeah pretty much 16:00 <@Evilpig> can you do me a favor. go out and play in traffic. remove your lazy self from the population 16:00 < crim> hah 16:00 <@Dagmar> someninjamaster: You having any repeated disconnection issues? 16:00 <@someninjamaster> i am it work 16:00 <@Dagmar> someninjamaster: ...because I'm about to declare freakin' war on Comcast over this shit 16:01 <@someninjamaster> i am averaging 4 15 minute disconnects a day 16:01 <@someninjamaster> for the past 8 days 16:01 <@Dagmar> Okay, so you are having the same shit go on I am then 16:01 <@someninjamaster> i had 5 so far today 16:01 <@Dagmar> Yeah I've already been disconnected four times since noon 16:01 <@Dagmar> Saturday between noon and three they're supposed to be over 16:01 <@someninjamaster> my connection at home has been up for the past 4 months 16:01 < Cruciew> remove you lazy self from the population... haha, i see 2600 is still the place for noobs and children at least.. 16:02 <@Dagmar> So, if you want to come by and hassle them as well that'll be fun 16:02 <@Dagmar> someninjamaster: Wait what? 16:02 <@Evilpig> well if you prefer i'll drive my ass to atlanta and remove you from the population myself 16:02 < Cruciew> i'd love for you to. 16:02 <@Dagmar> Are you talking about you've had Comcast at the Basswood place for four months? 16:02 <@Evilpig> I'd rather not get a hit and run charge. but for the betterment of the planet i'll do it 16:02 <@someninjamaster> i live in goodlettsville 16:02 < Cruciew> i won't press charges,. 16:02 <@rhia> Dagmar: nah, rockit was a perv, but he wasn't a pedo, he just like using little boys to fill his wallet and expand his ego 16:03 < Cruciew> hit and run? you're pussy at the best 16:03 <@Dagmar> rhia: I never mentioned Rockit 16:03 <@Evilpig> damn right you won't. you'll be a greasy spot on the road. 16:03 <@Dagmar> Wait 16:03 < Cruciew> haha who is this guy? 16:03 < Cruciew> jesus 16:03 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I mentioned rockit 16:03 <@Dagmar> Who the fuck was it that just moved into Rock Harbord? 16:03 <@rhia> Dagmar: sorry, meant piggy 16:03 <@Dagmar> Damnit now I'm all confused 16:03 -!- Cruciew was kicked from #se2600 by Evilpig [walk across the street lazy shit] 16:04 <@Dagmar> Someone from here moved into J building at the place I live in 16:04 <@Dagmar> I could swear it was someninjamaster 16:04 < crim> hah ok, well I'll catch you guys later 16:04 -!- crim [n=crim@tasha.jewnix.com] has left #se2600 [] 16:04 <@someninjamaster> i have been in goodlettsville since i was born 16:04 <@Dagmar> Okay. Damn 16:04 <@someninjamaster> hell even the same street 16:05 <@Evilpig> I believe it's time to reinstitute sushi fridays 16:05 <@dc0de> Dagmar; was the dude packing a massive arsenal of weapons? If not, it wasn't someninjamaster 16:05 <@someninjamaster> dc0de: just picked this up 16:06 <@someninjamaster> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/someninjamaster/Photo1.jpg 16:06 <@Dagmar> dc0de: This is frustrating. I wish I could rmeember who the hell it was 16:06 <@dc0de> someninjamaster; nice... 16:06 <@someninjamaster> are you thiniing wizard 16:06 <@rhia> someninjamaster: purty 16:06 <@dc0de> someninjamaster; 9mm? 16:06 <@someninjamaster> thanks 16:06 <@someninjamaster> .2 16:06 <@someninjamaster> .22 16:07 <@Dagmar> AH 16:07 <@Dagmar> I bet it was him 16:07 <@someninjamaster> when i saw it at the hardware store i was like holy shit a mp5 clone i can afford to shoot 16:07 <@dc0de> someninjamaster; hrm... it'd be sweeter in 9mm or .40 16:07 <@Dagmar> Lemme check the route to your house someninjamaster 16:07 <@dc0de> someninjamaster; heh... true. 16:08 <@someninjamaster> it takes mp5 parts 16:08 <@someninjamaster> all i need is a adapter and i can screw my supressor into it 16:08 <@dc0de> someninjamaster; barrel and bolt change? 16:08 <@someninjamaster> i dont know 16:08 <@Dagmar> Whoa... Comcast would ahve to have something reallyt screwed up for something nine+ hops away to have the same problem as me 16:08 <@someninjamaster> i think its mostly just the acessories 16:08 <@Dagmar> Oh well, I'm paying my $2/month so I don't have to give a shit if they can't troubleshoot correctly. 16:10 <@ShadowHntr> god damn that's a lot of packages 16:10 <@someninjamaster> dagmar my office is on the nashville goodlettsville line 16:10 <@ShadowHntr> never do 'yum install gtk*' on fedora lol 16:10 <@Evilpig> bah gotta go show the new vp of retail sales how to get on the network 16:10 <@Dagmar> someninjamaster: Yeah, it's also 16 hops away 16:10 <@Dagmar> That's a lot of hops for short distancce 16:11 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has quit ["So long, meatbags..."] 16:11 <@Dagmar> Maybe Comcast could benefit from not using a big ass star topology or something 16:11 <@Dagmar> I'll have to keep an eye on wizardpc and see if his connection dies the same times mine does 16:11 <@polerin> Dagmar: comcast could benifit from having network engineers that knew their ass from a hole in the ground 16:11 <@polerin> but don't get me started 16:12 -!- scort [n=scott@cpe-67-10-236-99.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:12 <@Dagmar> polerin: Well, they're about to start experiencing major pain and suffering 16:12 <@Dagmar> If you have any people over there who you like, you might want to warn them about this weekend 16:12 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure I'm going to be making at least three people feel like they should be wearing a yellow safety helmet 16:13 <@Dagmar> ...starting with the poor bastard who I KNOW is going to come over at 4pm and say "well, ah cain't seem to find anything wrong so yer line must be okay" 16:13 <@Dagmar> wizard is clearly on the same everything as me 16:14 <@Dagmar> Kind of amusing he's on the 98.193.191 network tho 16:14 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-98-233-29-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 16:14 <@Dagmar> I'm still astonished that the infrastructure is set up so that they are automatically throwing away the most fucking important information there is 16:14 <@polerin> the cmts's aren't the DHCP servers 16:15 <@polerin> Dagmar: what's your signal info 16:15 <@Dagmar> polerin: You wouldn't happen to know what ignorant jackass made the decision that the settings the modems are downloading disables using something as a log host would you? 16:15 <@Dagmar> I'd like to find that person and shake him warmly by the throat. 16:15 <@polerin> what do you meen, and that would be corperate 16:15 <@Dagmar> Aug 1 16:12:03 bastion surfmonitor: SNR: 35 dB QAM: QAM256 Downstream: 12 dBmV | ChanID: 3 Freq: 29 GHz Rate: 2.560 Msym/s Upstream: 45 dBmV 16:15 <@polerin> nobody at the local level use that 16:16 <@polerin> are you talking about SMTP you meen? 16:16 <@polerin> woh 16:16 <@Dagmar> polerin: I mean that the things from what I dug on Motorola's site have the ability to designate some host as being the recipient of the thing's syslog messages 16:16 <@polerin> that's too hot on your forwards 16:16 <@Dagmar> So like, IF it weren't disabled in the configuration, I'd be fucking pointing it at MY machine 16:16 <@polerin> you're out of ballance... it shouldn't cause too much but that's my first thought 16:17 <@Dagmar> ...I assumed they had it pointing at their stuff, but apparently no. 16:17 <@polerin> oh, that's not going to be enabled, trust me 16:17 <@polerin> you think comcast WANTS their customers to have detailed diagnostic information? 16:17 <@Dagmar> Yeah, it would too readily allow me to tell them how often their shit loses synch 16:17 <@polerin> even beyond people like you, do you know how many people would not know WHAT the hell to do with it 16:17 <@polerin> and come and harrange our techs over the most miniscule shit? 16:17 <@Dagmar> ...but the CS rep I talked to apparently couldn't even see the last 10-15 items it shows on the Logs page 16:18 <@Dagmar> polerin: The way I see it, they deserve it 16:18 <@polerin> no, actually they don't 16:18 <@polerin> trust me, there are people who freak over the stupidest shit 16:18 <@polerin> and giving them a log of normal activity on a cable modem will just give them more to freak over 16:18 <@Dagmar> polerin: I say it's okay because for their part in this, Comcast can't be bothered to do anything about even the MAJOR shit 16:19 <@polerin> that's because it's hard to prove the major shit. 16:19 <@polerin> the type of thing you're talking about is hard to catch 16:20 <@Dagmar> polerin: You sure about those levels? 16:20 <@Dagmar> According to http://www.dslreports.com/faq/5862 the levels I see are damn near ideal 16:20 <@polerin> they are full of it 16:20 <@polerin> read the docsis spec 16:21 <@polerin> spec says 0 to -10 16:21 <@polerin> on your forwards 16:21 <@polerin> (ie receive) 16:21 <@Dagmar> Ack okay yeah I wasn't reading carefully enough 16:21 <@polerin> and dBmV is a logarithmic measurement, so every db up is a huge increase in the actual voltage hitting the tuner 16:22 <@Dagmar> It's still within reasonable levels, but... the thing just completely breaks way more often than they want to let on 16:22 <@Dagmar> I guess I'll work on writing a log reassembler 16:23 <@polerin> that being said, they shouldn't be causing THAT much problem.. 16:23 <@polerin> well, keep in mind that signal varies during the day 16:23 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I'm just irked that they never ever want to admit there's a problem, because they can't see how many times a day I lose sync 16:23 <@Dagmar> I'm just going to repeatedly scrape http://192.168.100.1/logsdata.htm I guess 16:23 <@Dagmar> I'll just have to rememebr to hard reboot the modem once a day 16:24 <@polerin> not as much on forwards, but it varies 16:24 <@polerin> bah 16:24 <@polerin> that's useless 16:24 <@Dagmar> For whatever reason there's a resource leak in the fucker 16:24 <@Dagmar> After you hit the HTTP interface so many times, the cablemodem hard crashes 16:25 <@Dagmar> polerin: Well, if I am hitting it once per minute, I should be able to semi-reasonably determine which lines are new and dump those to syslog, giving me a more or less contiguous view of the logged activity 16:25 <@polerin> Dagmar: really? didn't know that about the surfboard 16:25 <@polerin> that's ammusing 16:26 <@Dagmar> That bit I pasted to you was from my syslog. I used to have it running all the time, but I kept forgetting to cycle the modem and it would leave me screwed when it would crash after about a day and a half 16:26 <@polerin> slow it down to once every 5 min 16:26 <@polerin> or 10 min 16:26 <@Dagmar> Way much can happen in five minutes 16:26 <@polerin> it can, but it's unlikely to fill up your page 16:26 <@Dagmar> Oh it can try to resynch 2-3 times in five minutes 16:26 <@polerin> hell, ping something through it, and if you don't get a response poll the modem or something :P 16:27 <@Dagmar> that's tempting actuallyt 16:27 <@polerin> try 5-10 times 16:27 <@Dagmar> It would be quite a bit more complex tho 16:27 <@Dagmar> I guess if their heads are that far up their asses, I'm not likely to get an angry email about "OMG 86,400 ICMP PACKETS SENT BY YOU FLOODING US" 16:27 <@ware> jesus. 16:28 <@ware> Dagmar: you know a Justin Hawkes? 16:28 <@ware> used to work at vandy in IT apparently 16:29 <@Dagmar> Lots of people have 16:29 <@Dagmar> I've no way of knowing who that is 16:29 -!- scort [n=scott@cpe-67-10-236-99.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 16:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o scort] by ChanServ 16:29 <@Dagmar> Hmm... step #1 on this I guess is to dump the routing table to get the default route 16:31 <@polerin> phht 16:31 <@polerin> just ping 68.52.0.6 16:31 <@polerin> it's not your next hop, but it's centrally located on the comcast network, so who cares 16:33 <@ware> Dagmar: recently 16:33 <@coil> hi 16:35 < eryc> coil: i has sex wit your mom last night 16:35 <@coil> that's gross 16:36 <@Dagmar> polerin: /sbin/route -n | awk '{ if ( $1=="0.0.0.0" ) { print $2 } }' 16:36 <@Dagmar> Kinda simple 16:37 < eryc> netstat -nr | grep default | awk '{print $2}' 16:37 * Dagmar gives eryc a gold star to stick on his forehead so he can feel special. 16:38 * eryc puts it on his foreskin instead 16:38 < eryc> :) 16:38 <@Dagmar> eryc: So tell me... when will netstat return "default" for the default route when you've told it to *not* resolve any names? 16:39 < eryc> on solaris 16:39 <@Dagmar> So it'll resolve 0.0.0.0 to "default" even when you told it explicitly -n? 16:39 <@coil> fuck you mother fucker i dont need this shit from you just fuck off and leave me the hell alone 16:39 <@Dagmar> I don't remember it working like that 16:40 < eryc> i'm not sure its resolving it 16:40 <@Dagmar> That's what it's doing. It's looking up names for networks unless you tell it -n 16:40 < eryc> i dont think there are any tables equating 0.0.0.0 16:40 <@Dagmar> On Solaris there is 16:40 <@Dagmar> They're like the last Unix I know of that actually _uses_ /etc/networks 16:40 < eryc> # grep default /etc/inet/networks 16:40 < eryc> nothing 16:41 <@Dagmar> Either way, your solution is non-portable. 16:41 < eryc> plus its not like 0.0.0.0 is any sort of valid network address 16:41 <@Dagmar> Ah but it is. :)_ 16:42 < eryc> not really 16:42 <@Dagmar> Oh yes 16:42 <@Dagmar> It's defined in RFCs as being a broadcast address 16:43 <@coil> holy fucking hell the internet at the shop is fso fucking slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 16:43 <@coil> what the rfuck is using up all the fucking bandwith? am i getting dossed? 16:43 <@coil> eryc suck my balls and taint plz 16:43 <@Dagmar> They sort of fixed it some years back with a newer RFC deprecating that and replacing the "all networks" broadcast address with 255.255.255.255 like sane people would assume 16:43 < eryc> "The use of 0.0.0.0 has been deprecated by the IETF in favour of 255.255.255.255. " 16:43 < eryc> http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1152062 16:43 < eryc> right 16:44 < eryc> but its still "special" 16:44 < eryc> which to me implies a different segment of code to handle it 16:45 <@Dagmar> No, for a routing table 0.0.0.0/0 matches everything. 16:45 <@Dagmar> It makes the calulations completely orthagonal 16:47 <@Dagmar> You're not winning yourself any points citing that everything2 article by the way 16:47 <@Dagmar> That thing is _bad_ 16:47 <@Dagmar> it's more like a 'tourists guide to networks' in that case 16:48 < eryc> it also mentions the use in dhcp reqa 16:48 < eryc> im not trying to win either 16:49 <@Dagmar> I know why it's in the DHCP RFC. 16:49 <@Dagmar> Yer damn Solaris again, actually. Heh 16:49 <@Dagmar> Hwo about you guys just stop keeping revision control on cave walls and catch up with the rest of the internet that can handle CIDR, eh? 16:50 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL 16:50 <@ShadowHntr> :) 16:50 < eryc> solaris is far more stable than linux and thus it is used for servers that actually matter 16:50 < eryc> let me know when linux doesnt suck 16:50 <@ShadowHntr> lol amen eryc 16:52 <@Dagmar> Really, would that be why Linux has been replacing Solaris boxes all over? 16:53 <@Dagmar> That you guys think 0.0.0.0 needs special handling is part of the reason you need to accept hte fact that the year 2000 has come and gone, and not everything laid down in the original IP specs made a lot of sense. 16:56 <@Evilpig> boss just came to me and said we need to install 8 time clocks.... at a minimum of $800 a piece 16:57 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-155-216-19.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:58 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-155-216-19.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 16:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 16:58 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["End of line."] 17:18 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 17:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 17:21 -!- korc [n=korc@c-68-62-175-216.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:43 -!- korc [n=korc@c-68-62-175-216.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [] 17:44 < dasunt> I crashed my first solaris box I used. 17:44 < dasunt> As a non-root user. 17:44 < dasunt> IIRC. 17:44 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["End of line."] 17:44 < dasunt> It was awesome. 17:45 <@Dagmar> Sooo stables 17:57 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 17:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 17:59 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 17:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 18:02 * coil headdesks 18:06 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: Meeting time baby! 18:06 <@Dagmar> Working time is now 18:06 <@Dagmar> Cigarette time is almost upon me 18:07 <@Dagmar> Otherwise KILLING A BUNCH OF MOTHERFUCKERS TIME AT LAST 18:07 <@coil> lol 18:07 <@coil> hahahahaha 18:07 <@coil> Dagmar: i need a cig too 18:07 <@coil> let me step out the back door 18:07 * Dagmar spreads the love and calls Dolemite 18:13 -!- wrench___ [n=weechat@c-98-240-105-200.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["WeeChat 0.2.6"] 18:16 <@ware> Dagmar: :( 18:37 <@ShadowHntr> anyone at the 615 meeting know how to compile from source rpms? 18:38 <@Dagmar> I do. 18:38 <@Dagmar> Haven't done it in awhile but I know it 18:40 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar: if you got a few minutes... 18:41 <@Dagmar> Yep. 18:41 <@Dagmar> Mainly it's a matter of 1) edit the spec file in the magic location, then 2) rpm -bb packagename 18:41 <@Dagmar> THe devil is in the details 18:44 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-190-6.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 18:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 18:50 <@ShadowHntr> yeah i didn't even read that when i tried it lol 18:50 <@ShadowHntr> rpmbuild -bb specfile 18:51 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-98-233-29-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:51 <@Dagmar> YEah mainly the big enemy is getting rpm to log a goddamn thing it did 18:54 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:57 <@ShadowHntr> appreciate the offer =) 19:08 -!- Godstrong [i=Godstron@24-183-213-128.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 19:12 <@aestetix> kitties! 19:12 <@aestetix> Someone posted an lj entry full of kitty pictures!!! 19:13 <@coil> no 19:14 <@someninjamaster> aestetix: kitty or kiddy 19:14 <@aestetix> cats 19:14 <@aestetix> actually they used to be my cats 19:14 <@coil> pics 19:14 * aestetix sighs 19:14 <@aestetix> now you all know my weakness 19:14 <@coil> kittens? 19:15 <@aestetix> http://11111111111.livejournal.com/187908.html?nc=4&style=mine 19:16 -!- ware_ [i=w@your.girl.lets.me.stick.it.in.her.assh0le.us] has joined #se2600 19:16 <@coil> assholeus? 19:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*i=w@*.girl.lets.me.stick.it.in.her.assh0le.us] by coil 19:16 -!- ware_ was kicked from #se2600 by coil [lame vhost] 19:18 * coil kills some kittens 19:24 -!- geoffscoffee [n=geoff@c-76-18-176-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:24 <@ladymerlin> heya geoffscoffee 19:24 < geoffscoffee> what happen? 19:24 <@ladymerlin> not much 19:24 < geoffscoffee> I went to Vandy, nobody round 19:24 < geoffscoffee> *snif* 19:24 <@ladymerlin> really? the meeting was there 19:25 <@ladymerlin> i cant drive or else id of been there too 19:25 < geoffscoffee> I was in the right spot, but I didn't see anything 19:25 <@tcstool> good job coil 19:25 <@ladymerlin> odd 19:25 <@coil> ? 19:25 < geoffscoffee> I guess it's not still going 19:25 <@ladymerlin> sorry :( 19:26 < geoffscoffee> why can't you drive? 19:26 <@ladymerlin> had surgery on wed 19:26 <@ladymerlin> on my kidney 19:26 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 19:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 19:27 < geoffscoffee> eek! 19:27 < geoffscoffee> I guess you're ok 19:27 < geoffscoffee> ? 19:27 <@ladymerlin> yeah 19:27 < geoffscoffee> you still have 2? 19:27 <@ladymerlin> not complesatly recovered but getting there 19:27 <@ladymerlin> yeah 19:27 <@ladymerlin> tho it dosent feel liek it lol 19:28 < geoffscoffee> I'll pray for ya 19:28 < geoffscoffee> friend of mine had his gall bladder out this week 19:29 < geoffscoffee> I remain fat but healthy 19:29 <@ladymerlin> lol 19:30 < geoffscoffee> View mahnah 19:30 < geoffscoffee> let's see if that link works 19:36 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["End of line."] 20:01 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["At least I didn't have to invent 26 dimensions to get the math to work."] 20:07 < Godstrong> hey 20:13 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 20:20 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["So long, meatbags..."] 20:20 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 20:47 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 20:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 20:53 < geoffscoffee> *SNOOOOORRRR* 20:54 -!- wontonjoe [n=sh4wn@host-63-238-55-157.apid.com] has joined #se2600 20:55 <@ware> wee 20:58 <@ladymerlin> whe 20:59 <@ladymerlin> e 20:59 <@dc0de> e 20:59 <@dc0de> e 20:59 <@dc0de> e 21:04 <@ware> ffff 21:08 <@Catonic> whee 21:09 <@dc0de> eff 21:11 < geoffscoffee> *poot* 21:12 <@ware> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148134&nm_mc=OTC-d3alcatch3r&cm_mmc=OTC-d3alcatch3r-_--Hard+Drives-_-Seagate-_-22148134 21:20 < wontonjoe> why am i in this handbasket and where the hell are you taking me 21:22 <+sdodson_> taking you to originalville 21:22 < wontonjoe> this place is like a bar, ive been gone for how long, and your all still here, sdodson... are you norm? 21:23 <+sdodson_> Yes. 21:27 < wontonjoe> so did I miss anything? 21:44 < Godstrong> hey 21:45 <@brimstone> holy crap it's wontonjoe 21:45 <@brimstone> he's not dead! 21:46 < geoffscoffee> I pooted 21:48 < geoffscoffee> I don't know why, I"m just feeling childish tonight 21:48 -!- Godstrong [i=Godstron@24-183-213-128.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["I was only here because my server was down...hahaha"] 21:49 -!- Godstrong [i=Godstron@24-183-213-128.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 21:59 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:00 < AstralSin> geoffscoffee: i was in my buddy's cubicle today while he was on the phone with a customer on speakerphone and cut a big loud fart 22:00 < AstralSin> the customer never said anything but my buddy had to mute the phone because he was laughing so hard 22:01 < geoffscoffee> HA! 22:02 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 22:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maverickbna] by ChanServ 22:02 < wontonjoe> no i am not dead brimstone 22:07 < geoffscoffee> but are you alive wontonjoe? 22:07 <@brimstone> well that's good 22:16 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 22:16 < geoffscoffee> welcome back to the silent minority 22:19 <@Dementia> hi geoffscoffee 22:19 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:19 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:24 < dasunt> Tired again. 22:27 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["End of line."] 22:28 -!- korc [n=korc@c-68-62-175-216.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:36 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-190-6.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:47 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 22:50 <@ware> ~google for army of the pharaohs 22:50 <+MxZBot> Google says army of the pharaohs is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Pharaohs or http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/army_of_the_pharaohs_lyrics_11698/ or http://www.myspace.com/armyofthepharaohs 22:51 <@dc0de> !ware 22:51 <@dc0de> ~ware 22:51 <+MxZBot> ware is the poster child for birth control 22:53 <@coil> lol 22:53 <@ware> :P 22:53 * ware pours dc0de some gentleman jack 22:54 <@dc0de> ware; sorry, don't drink anymore. 22:54 * AstralSin is shooting mezcal at this point 22:54 * dc0de passes the drink from ware to AstralSin 22:54 < AstralSin> woo 22:58 < AstralSin> http://www.hacknmod.com/displayMOD.php?hack=1614 <-- neat 23:05 <@polerin> ... 23:05 <@polerin> so scott just overrode the vote? 23:09 < geoffscoffee> huh? 23:10 <@polerin> on the shirt 23:15 -!- M0j0-j0j0 [n=Mojo_Joj@cpe-071-070-193-020.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 23:28 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["So long, meatbags..."] 23:28 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 23:31 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-24-131-56-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:34 <@someninjamaster> polerin: what do you mean 23:40 < geoffscoffee> night 23:40 -!- geoffscoffee [n=geoff@c-76-18-176-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 23:46 <@polerin> snm: check the list 23:47 <@someninjamaster> yeah 23:48 <@someninjamaster> i was there 23:48 <@polerin> so... the tshirt with the vote won, or what? 23:50 <@someninjamaster> it was a unanimous vote for this one http://www.worth1000.com/emailthis.asp?entry=474529 23:50 <@polerin> unaimous on the website or at the meeting? 23:50 <@someninjamaster> at the meeting 23:51 <@polerin> so... the vote on the website ment nothing? 23:51 <@rhia> athe website winner wins 100 or something like that 23:51 <@polerin> why did they even bother putting it up on the topic then 23:51 <@polerin> that's slightly stupid 23:51 <@someninjamaster> the vote on the website gave the winner 100 worth1000 points 23:51 <@rhia> the meeting/skypup approved wins ... the contest? something like that 23:51 <@someninjamaster> it was put in the topic so that we could get a feel for what other people wanted 23:51 * polerin shakes her head 23:52 <@polerin> this is why i'm not involved any more 23:52 <@polerin> but ok 23:52 <@someninjamaster> but we went through each picture at the meeting baseing it on 23:52 <@someninjamaster> how close it was to the theme 23:52 <@someninjamaster> how well it would hold up on a tshirt 23:53 <@someninjamaster> the majority of the first 5 wouldnt have worked well on a tshirt 23:53 <@someninjamaster> because the ink would degrade very quickly in the wash --- Log closed Sat Aug 02 00:00:37 2008