--- Log opened Sat Jul 26 00:00:43 2008
00:15 <@coil> hi
00:15 <@coil> no
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00:23 < Godstrong> hey
00:25 <@Catonic> HO
00:25 <@coil> Catonic: `
00:33 < Godstrong> what's up?
00:34 <@ware>  giraffe necks
00:34 <@ware> jets
00:34 <@coil> hi Godstrong
00:34 <@ware> my blood sugar
00:34 <@ware> clouds
00:34 <@ware> gas prices
00:34 <@coil> no
00:34 <@ware> /ignore coil
00:34 <@ware> up is relative really
00:35 <@ware> depends on where you are
00:35 <@coil> /kick ware
00:35 < Godstrong> where's the se2600 located at?
00:35 <@coil> nashivle
00:36 <@ware> se2600 is a group of the 2600 groups in the south east
00:36 <@ware> nash, atl, hsv, etc
00:37 <@coil> he doenst' know what he's talking about
00:38 <@ware> id say checkout the site but it is quite outdated... http://se2600.org/  *cough* Evilpig *cough*
00:38 <@ware> nashville2600.org
00:39 < Godstrong> so the group is based in nashville?
00:39 <@ware> there is a nashville 2600 chapter, yes
00:40 <@ware> http://2600.org/
00:40 < Godstrong> and there's 2600 other groups besides nashville in the southeast?
00:40 <@ware> as there are 2600 chapters around the world
00:40 < Godstrong> oooooo....in the world
00:40 <@ware> the entire world
00:40 <@ware> :X
00:40 <@ware> 4realz
00:41 < Godstrong> do they have a convention or do they meet once a month or anything like that?
00:41 <@coil> nlug
00:41 <@coil> nsv linux ujsers group
00:42 <@ware> theres a meeting once a month, first friday of each month.  nashville group meets at vanderbilt
00:42 < Godstrong> is this se2600/nashville group a big group or is it like 4 ppl....lol
00:42 < Godstrong> is the nashville linux group the same thing as nashville 2600?
00:42 <@ware> theres been around 12-15 ppl the last couple meetings
00:42 < Godstrong> is it the same group?
00:43 <@ware> nope, different groups. try #nlug for them
00:43 <@coil> yeah ware is the meth whore
00:44 <@ware> coil: hes not even 18. chill out
00:44 < Godstrong> who's not 18?
00:44 <@ware> i was assuming you
00:44 < Godstrong> lol....no
00:44 <@coil> asl Godstrong
00:44 < Godstrong> secret.....lol
00:45 <@ware> see :P
00:45 <@coil> are you over 18?
00:45 < Godstrong> so why do you all meet at Vandy?
00:45 < Godstrong> coil.....yes
00:45 <@coil> because only over 18 people are allowed
00:45 <@ware> its easier for the FBI / TBI to monitor the group
00:45 <@ware> video / audio recordings, background checks, fingerprinting, etc
00:46 < Godstrong> is that seriously why you the groups meets there?
00:46 <@coil> ya ya man
00:46 <@ware> no
00:46 <@coil> try /ignore ware
00:46 <@ware> my patience is tried, and im tired
00:46 <@coil> for a more pleasent irc expirence
00:46 < Godstrong> are you all from nashville?
00:46 <@ware> checkout the site, google about 2600
00:46 <@coil> no
00:46 <@ware> i am, coil is not
00:46 <@ware> g'night
00:46 <@ware> coil: diaf thnx
00:47 < Godstrong> are you all from nashville?
00:48 < Godstrong> ok next question......if you do live in nashville what kind of computer security jobs do you have?
00:48 <@ware> justfuckinggoogleit.com
00:48 < Godstrong> lol....sorry
00:49 <@ware> dont be sorry, be inspired
00:49 < Godstrong> ware and coil do you two live in nashville?
00:53 < Godstrong> anyone there?
00:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Nobody here but us chickens
00:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Hardly anybody here has computer security jobs
00:59 <@coil> Godstrong: i live in texas
00:59 <@coil> for now
01:00 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: until you get evicted
01:00 <@coil> i paid the rent
01:00 <@coil> and didn't get locked out yet
01:00 <@Corydon76-dig> What about next month's?
01:00 <@coil> well move out
01:00 <@coil> they'll prorate it
01:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Where to?
01:01 <@coil> minus all charges due to damages to apt
01:01 <@coil> per day
01:01 <@coil> until i give them the key
01:03 < Godstrong> how big is that PhreakNIC?
01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> 350-400 participants
01:04 < Godstrong> in that's held in Nashville?
01:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Correct
01:06 < Godstrong> does the president/vp of the phreaknic have a computer security job?
01:06 <@Corydon76-dig> In name
01:07 < Godstrong> lol...yes or no
01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> LAN security or some such
01:07 < Godstrong> o ok
01:07 < Godstrong> how much is that convention?
01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> $20 in advance, $25 at the door
01:08 < Godstrong> wow....that's cheap....who normallys speaks at the conventions
01:08 < Godstrong> normally*
01:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Why don't you go to the website and take a look at the archives?  http://phreaknic.info
01:11 < Godstrong> it didn't say?
01:12 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.phreaknic.info/pn0x0b/presentations.html
01:12 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.phreaknic.info/pn10/schedule.html
01:13 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.phreaknic.info/pn9/speaker.html
01:13 <@Corydon76-dig> You didn't look hard enough
01:13 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.phreaknic.info/pn7/?page=speakers
01:14 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.phreaknic.info/pn6/schedule.html
01:15 < Godstrong> lol....sorry
01:22 <@coil> hi
01:22 <@coil> hi Corydon76-dig
01:22 <@coil> are you married yet
01:22 <@Corydon76-dig> newp
01:22 <@coil> o
01:22 <@coil> what are you doing up so late?
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01:23 <@coil> asl wizardpc
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08:12 <@dc0de> morning all
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09:04 < sdodson_> hi
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10:33 <@dc0de> I'm off to hunt down some wheel weights for bullets... later all.
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11:09 < AstralSin> anyone here good with hardware raid and centos?
11:11 < AstralSin> bah nevermind, i gotta use software raid
11:11 < AstralSin> this server has that fake raid shit in it
11:31 < AstralSin> grrr
11:42  * eryc points and laughs
11:48  * Catonic yawns
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12:06 < sdodson_> AstralSin: dmraid should be supported in centos
12:07 < AstralSin> i got it
12:07 < AstralSin> just wasnt familiar enough with anaconda to get it done at first
12:07 <@tcstool> ware:  You around?
12:10 <@ware> yeah
12:10 <@ware> bout to head out tho
12:16 < sdodson_> wtf is up with people riding "fixies" and complaining about situations where brakes would be advisable?
12:16 < sdodson_> "Ya, I choose to ride a gimped bike because it makes me hardcore, plz no hills kthnx!"
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12:27 <@Dagmar> They have brakes.
12:28 <@Dagmar> They just gotta be willing to try to stop the things *cold*
12:28 <@Dagmar> heh
12:28 <@Dagmar> If their ankles are too weak to stop cold, it sounds like a lack of planning to me.
12:29 <@polerin> mmph.  I'm with sdodson.  I'll let the mechanics do the the stopping for me, and keep my ankles and the rest of my body out of the picture :P
12:31 < AstralSin> hmmm
12:31 < AstralSin> does centos restrict outgoing http requests if selinux is being enforced?
12:32 < AstralSin> because i can ping google, i just can't get there in a web browser
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12:34 <@Dagmar> SElinux doesn't allow anything you didn't specifically permit in the config
12:35 <@Dagmar> So, if you're asking this question you probably didn't set up SElinux
12:36 < AstralSin> during the install, it asks you things to allow and www was one of the things i allowed
12:36 < AstralSin> yum won't communicate with the network, either
12:36 <@coil> selinux a firewall?
12:36 < AstralSin> basically
12:37 <@coil> i wonder if that's why UT isn't working on a lan
12:37 < AstralSin> probably
12:37 <@coil> it works over the intertube
12:41 <@Dagmar> Well, how much evidence to you NEED that there's a policy problem?
12:41 <@Dagmar> Do you need something to be broadcast to all the consoles saying "Lamers aren't allowed network access, so bugger off."
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12:41 <@coil> how do you config that shit
12:41 <@Dagmar> coil: "Painstakingly"
12:42 <@coil> how do i do that
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12:42 <@Dagmar> Over the course of hours
12:42 <@coil> sounds like too much work
12:43 <@Dagmar> SELinux isn't exactly easy, but it *is* cery thorough.
12:43 <@coil> cery?
12:43 <@tcstool> very ;-)
12:44 <@Dagmar> If you can't figure out a simple typo, perhaps computers aren't the field you should be in.
12:45 <@Dagmar> Whoa
12:45 <@coil> i just woke up
12:45 <@Dagmar> "<wagnerrp> ah, so thats what the sixth field in fstab does!"
12:45 <@Dagmar> heheh
12:45 <@coil> 0 0?
12:46 < sdodson_> AstralSin: default configurations shouldn't prevent any of that.
12:46 <@coil> pass
12:46 <@coil> sdodson_: explain how my game works over the internt but not on the lan
12:47 < sdodson_> Dagmar: I just use random numbers in the last fields of fstab
12:47 < sdodson_> coil: uh, more information please?
12:47 <@coil> i dunno
12:48 <@coil> i cannot see anyone on the lan with this game
12:48 <@coil> the game wont connect
12:48 < sdodson_> coil: like are you talking about in fedora or what?
12:48 <@coil> yes
12:48 <@coil> f9
12:49 < sdodson_> coil: do you get avc denials in /var/log/audit/audit.log ?
12:52 <@coil> holy crap that log is filled
12:53 < Godstrong> hey
12:56 <@coil> since that log is too big i cannot go through it
12:56 <@coil> and i dont know what it would be called since it's running in wine
12:58 < sdodson_> coil: start setroubleshoot, then run UT, if there's an AVC denial then it will pop up a box telling you what happened and how to allow it
12:58 < sdodson_> complete with copy paste commands
12:59 <@coil> word
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12:59 <@coil> setroubleshootd?
12:59 < sdodson_> or, as root, setenforce 0 then run it, see if you can see lan games, then you'll know it's selinux or if we're just looking in the wrong place
12:59 < sdodson_> coil: ya
12:59 < sdodson_> service setroubleshoot start
12:59 < sdodson_> /sbin/service setroubleshoot start
13:01 <@Dagmar> It'll be SELinux
13:01 < sdodson_> don't hate
13:02 <@Dagmar> It's not hate.
13:02 <@Dagmar> Hell, I'm used to SELinux pretty much shutting my whole damn machine down when I first turn it on
13:02 <@coil> hmm i guess it's kinda hard to test to see if lan games work or not if i dont have another computer here
13:03 < sdodson_> Dagmar: in what configuration?
13:03 <@Dagmar> In any new "deny first" configuration
13:03 <@Dagmar> I always forget and leave some crap out here and there,
13:04 <@Dagmar> So like, what happened with CBS and journalistic integrity?
13:05 < sdodson_> Dan Rather.
13:06 < sdodson_> News isn't journalism anymore, it's now entertainment.
13:06 < sdodson_> 24 hour news has ruined journalism.
13:10 <@Dagmar> Oh, you haven't heard yet then
13:10 <@Dagmar> Katie Couric aired a partially fictional interview with John McCain
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13:11 <@Dagmar> Like, they didn't like his entirely incorrect answer to a particular quesion, so they substituted part of the answer to a wholly different question in it's place.
13:15 <@I-MOD> sdodson_, "news" hasn't been journalism for years
13:19 < sdodson_> I-MOD: how many years?
13:21 < sdodson_> I turn my TV on for the daily show and net flix.
13:22 <@coil> netflix is on your tv!?!?!
13:23 <@coil> 69.69.69.69.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer the-coolest-ip-on-the-net.com.
13:23 <@Dagmar> lol
13:23 <@coil> bad ass.
13:24 <@Dagmar> Indeed.
13:24 <@Dagmar> For those just tuning in, he didn't make that up.
13:24 <@coil> ya
13:24 < sdodson_> "Comcast is reading your blog" should have been "You posted shit on the Internet you dumbass"
13:24 <@coil> what did he post on your blog
13:25 <@Dagmar> What's this in re to?
13:25 <@ware> RE: OMG
13:26 < sdodson_> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/26/1321211
13:26 <@Dagmar> Ah I see
13:26 <@Dagmar> Comcast doesn't really come off looking too bad in this
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13:26 <@Dagmar> So their CS reps are actively hunting down people with problems to try to help them?
13:27 <@Dagmar> Could be worse
13:27 <@coil> wow
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13:59 < sdodson_> bah, they're pushing kde 4.1 into F9.
13:59 <@brimstone> sideways! with a rake!
14:00 < sdodson_> brimstone: how are you thinks morning?
14:00 < sdodson_> this
14:00 <@brimstone> pretty good i guess
14:00 <@brimstone> i ended up in nashville
14:00 < sdodson_> you got lost?
14:00 <@brimstone> SkyDog's got a nice shop up here
14:01 < sdodson_> you see those links about hacker spaces i posted for you?
14:04 <@brimstone> no
14:04 <@brimstone> when was this?
14:04 <@coil> caps lock
14:04 < sdodson_> dur'n hope
14:05 < sdodson_> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hacker_Spaces
14:05 <@coil> wheres Hacker_Shoots_and_Ladders
14:06 < sdodson_> coil i killllll you
14:06 <@coil> y
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14:27 <@coil> sdodson_: who's they're
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14:28 <@dc0de> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080726/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear
14:28 <@dc0de> I'm lovin that ^^^
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14:52 < Godstrong> hey
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14:53 < Godstrong> anyone there?
14:55 <@rhia> no
14:55 <@brimstone> nope
14:55 <@brimstone> all dead
14:55 <@ladymerlin> whee
14:55 <@brimstone> typical
14:57 <@oddball> brains?
14:57 <+MxZBot> brains are supposed to help them retain their life
14:57 <@oddball> brains!
15:00 < sdodson_> dc0de: why you love it?
15:03 <@dc0de> sdodson_; being sarcastic... the only reason to have centrifuges is to product weapons grade material.
15:03 <@dc0de> but of course, we don't think that Iran is a risk...
15:03 <@dc0de>  /sarcasm
15:04 < sdodson_> Who doesn't?
15:04 <@someninjamaster> oddball i got a mosin nagant channel  going on afternet
15:05 <@oddball> There's enough interest over there to have a running irc channel?
15:05 <@someninjamaster> yeah i was amazed
15:05 <@someninjamaster> its mainly comming from a forum for nagants
15:06 <@oddball> huh... I still need to figure out why mine is jamming horribly
15:06 <@Dagmar> Stop keeping jellybeans in the breach.
15:07 <@oddball> so THAT's the problem
15:07 <@someninjamaster> is the bolt sticking
15:08 <@oddball> yep, more than usual
15:08 <@oddball> I'm thinking I need to do a detailed bolt cleaning
15:08 <@someninjamaster> it could be some cosmo on the chamber
15:09 <@someninjamaster> thats melted and ran to a weird spot
15:09 <@oddball> It's possible, although I would think that it would have been cleared after the few hundred rounds I've run through it.e
15:10 < sdodson_> http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249 are there really 314 people out there running ubuntu on that particular board?
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15:13 <@someninjamaster> oddball: http://russian-mosin-nagant.com/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=45&Itemid=59
15:15 <@oddball> Yeah, I had it professionally cleaned after the fire and it was worse than ever, so, I'm thinking it's a headspace issue.r
15:15 <@oddball> Of course, the ammo could be the culprit as well. (stupid mil-surp)
15:17 <@dc0de> oddball; have you checked the headspace?
15:17 <@oddball> not yet.  Having fired it since just after getting it back from being cleaned, and haven't had the chance to yet
15:19 <@someninjamaster> oddball what are you putting through it
15:19 <@someninjamaster> bulgarian light or what
15:22 <@oddball> Czech (I think)
15:22 <@oddball> silver tips
15:22 <@someninjamaster> with or without a yellow ring
15:26 <@someninjamaster> apparently the czech has issues because of the laquer finish on them
15:29 <@oddball> no ring
15:29 <@someninjamaster> yeah thats czech
15:29 <@someninjamaster> check out bulgerian light or heavy ball
15:30 <@someninjamaster> you can get 250 rounds right now for 39 bucks plus shipping
15:39 <@oddball> cool
15:40 <@someninjamaster> i have been using it in mine
15:40 <@someninjamaster> i got a 250 rd spam can
15:40 <@someninjamaster> on stripper clips
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15:51 <@oddball> nice
15:52 <@coil> pics
15:57 <@someninjamaster> oddball what year is your nagant
15:58 <@oddball> it was rebuilt in '42
15:59 <@someninjamaster> what arsnel
15:59 <@oddball> It has an octagonal reciever, so chances are that was build pre-1900
15:59 <@someninjamaster> does it have a tang date
16:00 <@oddball> it's a m-38, and the Finns did a good job of stamping out any of the original markings
16:00 <@someninjamaster> you lucky bastard
16:00 <@someninjamaster> i want a finn so bad
16:01 <@oddball> sorry, m39
16:01 <@someninjamaster> i knew what you ment
16:02 <@oddball> Yeah, I didn't realize that I had one of the rarest variations until after I bought it.
16:02 <@someninjamaster> does it have a tiger stripe stock
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16:02 <@oddball> not sure what you mean
16:03 <@someninjamaster> let me find a pic
16:04 <@someninjamaster> http://thedolk.com/junk/all_5_600lr.jpg
16:05 <@someninjamaster> the top rifle
16:06 <@oddball> Ah, no... it's most like that bottom one.
16:07 <@oddball> Of course, there's enough laquer on it that it's all about as dark as the dark parts on that bottom one.
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16:13 <@oddball> Oh, and obviously I was talking about wood color, the stock shape is like the top one
16:24 <@someninjamaster> after i get my garand im going to try to get a finn
16:25 <@someninjamaster> unless i win this raffle
16:25 <@someninjamaster> then i will have one next weel
16:29 <@someninjamaster> week
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16:30 <@coil> Shadow404: !!!!!!!!!!!!
16:31 <@coil> are you there
16:34 <@coil> woot 300mhz laptop
16:35 < dc0de1> coil: whaaa?
16:35 < dc0de1> did you just buy something?
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16:37 <@coil> nah
16:37 <@coil> well a week or two ago
16:37 <@coil> we bought this old thinkpad
16:37 <@coil> and it works fine
16:37 <@coil> i dunno why they put winxp on it
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17:10 <@aestetix> hey
17:10 <@aestetix> anyone here know much about GPLs?
17:10 <@Catonic> FPGAs?
17:10 <@dc0de> Gold Power Links?
17:10 < AstralSin>  what do you want to know?
17:10 <@coil> SPOG
17:10 <@dc0de> RTFM
17:11 <@aestetix> Basically we had a team that created a cool project
17:11 <@coil> STFW
17:11 <@aestetix> And I can't GPL it until everyone formally agrees to
17:11 <@Dagmar> So...
17:11 <@aestetix> And I think one person might not agree to it
17:11 <@aestetix> I don't want that to hold back releasing the code, but I also want to have legal grounds covered.
17:11 <@Catonic> oh fuck...
17:12 <@aestetix> Incidentally, she did utter minimal work, but she still did something.
17:12 <@aestetix> And she has to agree.
17:12 < AstralSin> i dont know, but i'd guess that can get complicated
17:12 <@Dagmar> Trivial statistic: 84% of the people who I've reported for doing this stupid "anal [$linked_item]" spamming of the trade channel in World Of Warcraft are also using player names in violation of the naming policy
17:12 < AstralSin> aestetix: simple fix, replace her code
17:12 <@aestetix> AstralSin: she did CSS and graphics
17:12 <@aestetix> And I'm trying to figure out if that even constitutes code
17:12 <@Catonic> dervin?
17:13 < sdodson_> Dagmar is the mother fuck'n wow police!
17:13 < AstralSin> aestetix: you can GPL everything but that
17:13 < AstralSin> or create some generic stuff for that
17:13 < AstralSin> or find someone else to do it
17:13 <@aestetix> Anyone good with CSS and graphics?
17:13 < AstralSin> i'm pretty damn good with css, i'll volunteer my services for that
17:13 <@aestetix> Wanna get your name on a project? :p
17:14 < AstralSin> no guarantee on when i'll be able to finish it, but i'll do what i can
17:14 <@aestetix> Well, I need this done ASAP.
17:14 <@Catonic> aestetix: crazy thought -- why not just ask her?
17:14 <@coil> that's your pboelms
17:14 <@aestetix> Catonic: did already.
17:14 <@aestetix> I sent out an email to everyone who was involved.
17:14 <@Catonic> and she said what?
17:14 < sdodson_> This is the second time i've called my parents and dropped the call then when i try to call back it rings busy. They're going to blame it on my voip, any reason that'd actually be the cause of the problem?
17:14 <@aestetix> No response yet.
17:15 <@aestetix> And based on her actions at the con, I am thinking she will not agree to it.
17:15 < AstralSin> aestetix: like i said, i'll do what i can, what's the deadline?
17:15 < sdodson_> I can call my cell from the voip and it goes through, I can call my voip from my cell and it goes through.
17:15 <@aestetix> In any case, I have no issue dropping her out of the project and going with someone else's work.
17:15 <@Catonic> and? it's the weekend. Maybe she's not on hacker time, maybe she wants to take a break.
17:18 <@Catonic> aestetix: I thought it was understood at the beginning that the work was going to be released GPLd?
17:19 <@aestetix> Catonic: yes, but we didn't have written consent.
17:19 <@aestetix> I want a hard copy of consent from everyone involved.
17:19 <@Catonic> you're as difficult as rattle.
17:19 < sdodson_> did several others witness her statements?
17:19 < sdodson_> Catonic: you mean drunk?
17:19 <@aestetix> We made a public statement that we were GPLing it on our panel
17:19 <@aestetix> And she didn't argue
17:19 <@Catonic> fuckin' release it already
17:20 <@Catonic> I gotta say, that was a heck of a team to work with.
17:20 <@aestetix> lol
17:20 <@aestetix> Catonic: oh you saw how much fun it was huh?
17:20 <@Catonic> both NOC and AMD, we had some damn good people doing some of the most mundane work in IT.
17:20 < sdodson_> just wait a bit longer for her to timeout then release it if you dont hear from her
17:22  * AstralSin needs to find a good solution for building a chrooted ftp environment, anyone got any suggestions?
17:23 <@Dagmar> Not using FTP.
17:23 <@Dagmar> vsftp only gets you so far.
17:23 <@Catonic> AstralSin: proftpd used to be, but they've single handedly removed almost every decent feature they had "because they were too difficult to use"
17:23 < AstralSin> i need a file storage solution that is segregated from the rest of the system that people can access in a similar fashion to ftp
17:24 < AstralSin> ie., with an ftp client or via a web browser
17:25 <@Dagmar> Using HTTP as the fucking replacement for FTP that it was meant to be should work
17:25 <@Catonic> sftp is really the better way to go with one notable exception...
17:25 <@Dagmar> That he doesn't need to worry about people eavesdropping on other people's downloads?
17:25 <@Catonic> sftp and scp have no mechanism for allowing you to resume a previous upload, which is a cast-iron bitch when you're uploading 600
17:25 <@coil> scp
17:26 <@Catonic> +MB over a flaking connection
17:26 <@coil> lol
17:26 <@coil> they dont?
17:26 <@coil> that's lame
17:26 <@coil> get a real daemon
17:26 <@Catonic> not in the BSD/Darwin/FC implementations.
17:26 < AstralSin> well, i need this instance to be jailed from the rest of the system due to security concerns, so its a bit more involved than just throwing up an sftp server
17:26 <@Catonic> AstralSin: what os?
17:26 < AstralSin> centos
17:26 <@Catonic> Then I guess you're using chroot.
17:26 <@coil> oh
17:27 < sdodson_> we upload gigs and gigs of data with no resume
17:27 <@coil> asl
17:27 <@coil> sdodson_: asl
17:27 <@Catonic> If you'd said openBSD, I'd say chroot.
17:27 < AstralSin> im not using shit at the moment, just trying to figure out how i want to do it :)
17:27 <@coil> Catonic: chroot for most things? like an ircd?
17:27 <@Catonic> if you'd said FreeBSD, I'd show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
17:27 < AstralSin> nah, i couldnt use anything leet since i'm the only one there that knows how to use linux and they have to have a gui
17:27 <@coil> Catonic: im running ircd as root
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17:27 <@coil> i need choot?
17:27 <@coil> on fbsd
17:27 < AstralSin> how to use *nix
17:27 < AstralSin> rather
17:28 < sdodson_> it goes deep up catonic's colon
17:28 <@coil> pics
17:28 < AstralSin> before i get skewered
17:28 < sdodson_> the rabbit hole
17:28 <@coil> lol
17:28 <@coil> shit hole
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17:28 <@coil> Catonic: talk to me nerdy
17:28 < AstralSin> "ooh baby, i'm gonna roll your dice"
17:28 <@coil> no
17:29 < AstralSin> "STROKE THAT +1 MEAT SCEPTRE!"
17:29 <@ware> werdup
17:29 < AstralSin> sup ware
17:29 <@ware> AstralSin++
17:29 <@ware> jus haxn
17:29 <@ware> alwayz
17:29 <@coil> Catonic:
17:29 <@ware> replaced the front sprocket and chaing on my bike
17:29 < AstralSin> ware: help me figure out some uberleet way to chroot an ftp server
17:29 <@coil> chain
17:29 <@ware> put the gear shift and stuff back together now im dun
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17:30 < Godstrong> hey
17:30 < AstralSin> i got to bring a server home from work to setup a lamp/file server
17:30 <@ware> do a chroot and then run the ftpd
17:30 -!- Catonic changed the topic of #se2600 to: http://www.worth1000.com/contest.asp?contest_id=20314&display=photoshop |Evilpig> i've played with alot myself |AstralSin> "STROKE THAT +1 MEAT SCEPTRE!"
17:30 <@coil> i love lamp
17:30 <@Dagmar> As usual, ware completely misses the point
17:30 <@coil> what's the point
17:30 <@coil> Dagmar: how do i chroot
17:30 <@Catonic> first, you stop chpullingit
17:30 <@Dagmar> You would be better off just putting that duct tape over your nose and mouth
17:31 <@coil> i dont have any duct tape
17:31 <@Dagmar> Stop using FTPds.  Full stop.
17:31 <@coil> how do i get duct tape
17:31 <@Catonic> Dagmar: that's not the right answer and you know it.
17:31 <@Dagmar> Only warez kiddies use FTPd.
17:31 <@coil> how do i
17:31 <@ware> Dagmar: eat balls, he asked how to do an ftpd in a chroot and i told him
17:31 <@Catonic> The right answer is to put duct tape over ware's nose and mouth.
17:31 <@coil> Dagmar: how do i
17:31 <@Dagmar> I might do that as well.
17:31 <@ware> you guys talk big online
17:31 <@ware> *middlefinger*
17:32 <@coil> shut the fuck up ware before i say stfu
17:32 <@Catonic> Dagmar: please kill him. I'll help you hide the body.
17:32 <@Dagmar> ware: You'll be talking mighty big once you're duct taped to the side of a bulding.
17:32 <@coil> Catonic: chroot is good option for ircd?
17:32 <@ware> AstralSin: whats the application of the server, what do you need to accomplish
17:32 <@Dagmar> FTP is obsolete.
17:32 <@ware> ignorant
17:32 <@Dagmar> There is a _reason_ the "popular" FTP daemons are dying out.
17:33 <@Catonic> So is fucking, but it's still as popular as ever.
17:33 < AstralSin> well, its kind of a janky solution but its all i've got to work with, but the lamp portion of the server will be for hosting support websites for the product i work on and the ftp/scp/whatever server will be to allow customers to upload shit to us or download shit they may need
17:33 <@ware> us a web script for uploading, php or something
17:33 < AstralSin> my boss wants the lamp and file servers completely segregated from one another, he suggested using a vm for the fileserver but i'd rather do something more efficient
17:33 <@coil> Dagmar: so what's the newest and greatest thing
17:34 <@coil> now that ftp is dead
17:34 <@Dagmar> HTTP.
17:34 <@Dagmar> ...and Literacy.
17:34 <@coil> how do i do that
17:34 <@ware> OH SHIT ITS TEH WORD POLICE RUN
17:34 <@ware> OH SHIT ITS TEH WORD POLICE RUN
17:34 <@ware> OH SHIT ITS TEH WORD POLICE RUN
17:34  * brimstone runs
17:34 <@ware> AstralSin: php upload script. how many files would the customers be uploading
17:35 <@coil> Dagmar: http sux for file uploads
17:35 <@Dagmar> coil: Really?  I've never had a problem with it.
17:35 <@coil> well u sux
17:35 < AstralSin> you're misunderstanding, the file server and lamp server need to be jailed from one another due to policy concerning the customer data that may be uploaded
17:35 <@Dagmar> Then again, I'm not just sitting around, pretending to be a complete retard, manufacturing nonexistant problems out of some misplaced sense of inferiority.
17:35 <@coil> lamp/
17:35 <@coil> linux apache mysql php?
17:35 <@Dagmar> I suppose you're not actually pretending.
17:36 <@coil> no im just trolling you Dagmar
17:36 <@coil> it seems to be working
17:36 <@ware> Dagmar: no fucker youre sitting around ranting on forums while you wait for a red light to go off so your noc monkey ass can push a button
17:36 <@coil> lol
17:36 <@Dagmar> Least I gotta job
17:36 <@coil> burn
17:37 <@ware> yes, nice come back.
17:37 <@ware> that hurt
17:37 <@coil> ware did you quit or some bullshit
17:37 <@coil> quit again?
17:37 <@coil> or got fired
17:37 <@ware> no, not sure where the validity in that comment is
17:38 <@coil> ya diaf Dagmar
17:38 <@ware> AstralSin: you can have it seperate /  encrypted / chroot'd whatever you want once they upload it
17:38 <@Dagmar> Ya'll can both get in the ignore list and stay there until you learn how to behave like semi-responsible adults.
17:38 <@ware> youve already said you have to set it up to host sites
17:38 <@ware> Dagmar: LULZ OH SHIT U WIL B MISSD :(
17:38 <@coil> oh noes we got the ignored
17:39 <@coil> because Dagmar cannot handle the truth
17:39 <@ware> anyways...
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17:39 <@coil> goft
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17:39 <@Dagmar> Think about it.
17:39 <@Dagmar> Stop acting like an idjit, man.
17:39 <@Dagmar> We know you have some brains in that pretty little head of yours.
17:39 <@ware> cause i dont flip out when i do? cause its irc?
17:40 <@brimstone> ware does have a pretty head
17:40 <@ware> pretty ugly head!
17:40 <@rattle> First person to say he has a pretty mouth gets kicked.
17:40 <@brimstone> rattle: you gots a purdy mouf
17:41 <@rattle> I said him, not me.  You hicks can't get nothing right.  :)
17:41 <@ware> hickys? pretty mouths?
17:41 <@brimstone> i calls 'em likes i sees 'em
17:42 <@coil> you have a pretty mouth boy
17:42 <@coil> Dagmar: it puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again
17:42 <@ware> pretty boy mouth
17:42 <@ware> !!!
17:42  * ware is out <3
17:42 <@coil> gtfo >3
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17:45  * coil pcks up laptop and gets ready to leave worik
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17:50 <@brimstone> how sad is it when your biggest hit is a cover of a michael jackson song?
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18:17 <@juice> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/rtfm.png
18:17 <@dc0de> juice: perfect
18:17 <@juice> heh
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19:37 < AstralSin> fuck, i'm bored
19:37 < sdodson_> What's a good topping to add to a ham and pineapple pizza?
19:38 <@tzanger> shit, if you're going hawaiian it's already a ruined pizza
19:38 < AstralSin> sdodson_: bacon
19:38 < sdodson_> tzanger: What do you like?
19:39 <@tzanger> pepperoni, mushrooms and bacon is good (put pepperoni on top to get crispy)
19:39 <@tzanger> that's my standby pizza
19:39 < AstralSin> if you really wanted to go full out hawaiian with it, get some mahi mahi or swordfish
19:39 <@tzanger> but honestly, leave off the sweet stuff... ham is good on pizza, but not pineapple.
19:39 <@tzanger> I love lvoe love pineapple, just not on a pizza
19:39 <@ware> AstralSin: bored? did you setup that LAMP server yet?!
19:39  * AstralSin needs to make another spinach, bacon, and feta pizza
19:40 <@ware> pineapple+ham pizza ftw
19:40 <@tzanger> that would be good
19:40 < AstralSin> ware: im too drunk to do something for work right now
19:40 <@tzanger> ftw = for the washroom, then you're right, ware :-)
19:40 <@ware> AstralSin: shit, thats the best time!
19:40 <@ware> whatchu drinkin on?
19:40 < AstralSin> wine
19:40 <@ware> i figured, i meant what kind :P
19:40 < AstralSin> Pepperwood Grove Viognier
19:41 < AstralSin> pretty good really, and cheap too
19:42 < sdodson_> what's cheap?
19:42 < sdodson_> I have no concept of how much wine costs.
19:42 < AstralSin> i think this one was $10 for a carafe (750ml)
19:42 < sdodson_> My last wine was $4/bottle. But I've had $80/bottle stuff
19:42 < sdodson_> couldn't tell the difference.
19:43 < AstralSin> i don't buy the $4 a bottle crap
19:43 < sdodson_> I bought it to cook with
19:43 < AstralSin> i had a $30 bordeaux last week that tasted like a $10 bottle of california cabernet sauvignon
19:43 < sdodson_> someone told me to buy cooking wine that I'd drink, which is hard since I don't drink wine
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19:44 < AstralSin> the general rule of thumb is, if you don't like the taste of it to drink, you won't like the taste of it to cook with
19:44 < AstralSin> and i agree
19:45 < AstralSin> drinking wine is more of an involved experience than most people are familiar with, most people just drink to get drunk
19:45 < AstralSin> wine is more about the complexity of the aromas and flavors and appreciating the drink for the work put into it and the flavors it brings
19:46 < AstralSin> which can apply to damn near any alcoholic beverage, its just that most people don't get that involved with it
19:46 < sdodson_> Tequila is not about all that bullshit
19:46 < sdodson_> Tequila is about getting hammered and lowering your standards.
19:47 < sdodson_> Is Cabo Wabo supposed to be really good?
19:47 <@ware> yes
19:47 < AstralSin> im personally not a fan of cabo wabo, but yes tequila is also about those things... or can be
19:48 < AstralSin> but i much prefer mezcal to tequila when speaking of agave products
19:48 < AstralSin> in fact, brb, gonna get a shot of monte alban
19:50 < AstralSin> WOO HAA
19:50 < sdodson_> take it easy or coil will show up and want to pary with you
19:51 < AstralSin> oh jesus
19:51  * AstralSin calms down
19:51 < sdodson_> ware: so do we have a chan?
19:52 < AstralSin> i think i've drummed up a few more visitors to phreaknic, but we'll see if they actually show up
19:57 <@ware> sdodson_: not at the moment, i have one about configured and up with only ssl
19:58 <@ware> it will be invite only this time
20:05  * AstralSin just made a wallet out of paper
20:06 < sdodson_> AstralSin: are they women?
20:06 < sdodson_> If not I don't care.
20:06 < AstralSin> maybe one but if she comes, keep your filthy hands off her because i wanna bang her
20:08 < AstralSin> i know a couple of my dude friends are probably gonna come with me
20:09 < AstralSin> (almost) for sure 2 guys are gonna come, maybe 2-3 girls too, maybe more of either sex
20:15 <@ware> come with you... where?
20:15 < AstralSin> to phreaknic
20:18 < sdodson_> There are folks from Raleigh who refuse to go to Phreaknic because they're afraid of catching the gay.
20:18 < AstralSin> hah
20:18 < AstralSin> i think them folks may be in denial
20:19 < AstralSin> i'm so straight, i've evolved antibodies against the gay
20:19 < AstralSin> i'm immune
20:22 < sdodson_> There are drugs at phreaknic which kill those antibodies
20:22 < AstralSin> pff
20:23 < AstralSin> these antibodies DO drugs
20:23 < AstralSin> they're so badass, they cook their own meth
20:28 <@ware> !?
20:28 < AstralSin> i don't do meth, just my anti-gay antibodies
20:28 < AstralSin> they have to stay awake 24/7
20:31 <@Dagmar> We all know homophobes are closet.
20:31 <@Dagmar> You might as well drop the act.
20:32 < AstralSin> blah blah blah, psychobabble bullshit
20:33 < AstralSin> i like girls, at least their hole is self-lubricating
20:33 < AstralSin> well, most of the time anyway
20:33 <@Dagmar> blah blah blah, denial, denial, secret emo poetry
20:33 <@Dagmar> ...and yes, I *did* just accuse you of writing emo poetry.
20:33 < AstralSin> i aint no emo, i don't even read poetry, let alone write it
20:34 < AstralSin> brb, need a beer
20:41 <@ware> rpf;
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20:43 < sdodson_> reverse polish futon?
20:46 < AstralSin> rancid pussy fungus
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20:52 <@ware> rectak perversion fags
20:53 <@ware> rectal*
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20:54 <@dc0de> ware: Speaking of which; you can take that baseball bat out of your ass now.
20:58 <@ware> ?!
20:58 <@ware> you told me the bad man would come out if i did
21:01 < M0j0-j0j0> the bad man came out a long time ago
21:02 <@ware> what was that crap about being on channel 4
21:03 <@dc0de> someone was smoking shit covered weed.
21:04 <@Dagmar> Seriously?
21:04 <+MxZBot> seriously are they newly changed one ways?
21:04 <@Dagmar> I knew these hillbillies were stupid, but still...
21:05 < M0j0-j0j0> ware: it's a famous line from BBC tv in the UK
21:08 < M0j0-j0j0> google 'live on channel 4, please do not swear'
21:09 < M0j0-j0j0> more famous than 'this.................................... is......................................American Idol'
21:10 < M0j0-j0j0> besides Seacrest is a pud
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21:11 < geoffscoffee> evenin
21:11 <@dc0de> what's American idol?
21:11 <@dc0de> sup geoffscoffee
21:11 < geoffscoffee> yo
21:11 <@dc0de> pass me some caffeine bro'!
21:12 < geoffscoffee> stealing my friend's neighbor's wifi
21:12 <@dc0de> geoffscoffee: no, you're not stealing, you're borrowing it...
21:12 < geoffscoffee> they don't have internet, and I'm babysitting
21:12 <@dc0de> like you borrow a cup of sugar
21:13 < geoffscoffee> hey, they left the door wide open, I just walked in
21:13 < geoffscoffee> I'll give them back the bandwidth someday
21:13 < M0j0-j0j0> besides... it's not like the bits wouldn't be wasted if you didn't use it anyways
21:13 < geoffscoffee> that's right, I'm conserving wasted bits!
21:13 < M0j0-j0j0> I think you're doing them a favor by lowering the price of internet per bit
21:14 <@dc0de> Neoteric_: ping
21:14 < M0j0-j0j0> who doesn't have internet?
21:16 <@dc0de> geoffscoffee doesn't have internet
21:16 <@dc0de> that's why he's not online
21:16 < M0j0-j0j0> I have a friend that does IT work that doesn't have wifi at home... and that seemed crazy to me... but at least he has it
21:16 <@dc0de> I'm only on my wifi when I'm not doing ACTUAL work...
21:17 <@dc0de> when I"m working from home, I connect to my wired network.
21:17 < M0j0-j0j0> Post is paranoid.. that's why he doesn't have wifi
21:17 <@dc0de> when I'm off and fucking around, I'm on wifi
21:17 <@ware> straight up now tell me do you really wanna love me forever
21:17 <@dc0de> being 'paranoid' of wifi isn't a bad thing.
21:17 <@Dagmar> I TOLD you he was gay
21:18 <@ware> oh oh oh
21:18  * dc0de passes Dagmar $20
21:18 <@ware> hhahaha
21:18 <@Dagmar> heh
21:18 <@dc0de> dammit, Dagmar, double or nothing on Neoteric?
21:18 <@ware> id take that bet
21:18 <@Dagmar> dc0de: Neoteric is way too tightly wound to be anything but 100% heterosexual
21:19 <@dc0de> dunno, I'll bet he'd be a cherry ass to pop...
21:19 <@dc0de> ware: get on it.
21:19 <@ware> dc0de: so i bet you $40 Neoteric_ is gay
21:19 <@dc0de> well, you'd have to prove it.
21:21 <@Dagmar> ddch
21:22 < M0j0-j0j0> don't do code handlers?
21:23 <@dc0de> don't do cock hounds
21:24 < geoffscoffee> YEAH!
21:24 < geoffscoffee> watching Family guy...I had no idea my wife would like it
21:25 < M0j0-j0j0> props to the Stew man
21:25 < geoffscoffee> yeah, but I can't complain about
21:25 < geoffscoffee> losing neighbor's stolen bits
21:26 <@dc0de> Neoteric_: what do you drive?
21:27 < geoffscoffee> a BLUE PRIUS?
21:28 < M0j0-j0j0> dc0de: unless the answer is cock, I don't see that this is going to give you the answer you're seeking
21:29 < M0j0-j0j0> I work with a guy who drives a prius... he's not gay... he's just cheap
21:31 < geoffscoffee> I was thinking Jeff Dunham's bit about the prius
21:36 < M0j0-j0j0> anyone know what the difference in CGI::Application::Plugin::DBH and DBI is?
21:37 < Godstrong> hey everyone
21:38 < M0j0-j0j0> hey
21:38 < geoffscoffee> yo
21:38 < Godstrong> how's it going?
21:38 < geoffscoffee> So, if this happened to your popular website, what would you be drinking?
21:38 < geoffscoffee> http://twit.tv/
21:38 < geoffscoffee> database farked
21:39 < M0j0-j0j0> ouch
21:39 < geoffscoffee> I like his stuff, so I'm sad for his weekend plans
21:39 < M0j0-j0j0> I hope that twit has a backup
21:40 < geoffscoffee> if he doesn't, he's a twit
21:40 < M0j0-j0j0> oh, he's just out of space
21:40 < geoffscoffee> i remember him saying that his Tricaster had a HD failure thursday
21:41 < geoffscoffee> is that what the tea leaves tell you?
21:41 < geoffscoffee> :)
21:42 < geoffscoffee> OK I see the content on down the page
21:43 <@someninjamaster> sup geoffscoffee
21:44 < M0j0-j0j0> statistically, people won't scroll down
21:45 <@ware> http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/genericv2b/218/83/01AwcA9hfOswwAAAABAAAAAAAAAAA:.jpg
21:46 <@ware> rofl
21:46 <@ware> ^^Dagmar
21:49 < geoffscoffee> nice
21:57 < Godstrong> did anyone watch elitexc tonight?
21:59 < Godstrong> guess not....lol
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22:59 <@dc0de> rattle: ping
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23:16 < geoffscoffee> peace, out!
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